The One About Monét's Nightmare Hike - Sibling Rivalry

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Sibling Rivalry – The One About Monét’s Nightmare Hike

Release Date: July 20, 2022
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Summary by: Podcast GPT

Episode Overview

This episode blends hilarious retellings of life misadventures (notably, Monét’s ill-fated desert hike), impromptu cultural analysis, and chaotic banter between drag icons Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change. The duo discuss Tony-winning Broadway musical A Strange Loop, unpack issues of Black cultural identity (from food stereotypes to language), and reflect on recent Emmy nomination disappointments. With signature quick wit and honest storytelling, Bob and Monét’s chemistry is center stage, offering listeners both laugh-out-loud moments and thoughtful takes on race, art, and fame.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Emmy Nominations & Category Frustrations

(01:27–04:57)

Bob and Monét discuss the competitive nature and politics of Emmy category nominations.
Both reflect on being up against huge mainstream shows ("Queer Eye, Love is Blind, Shark Tank, Antiques Roadshow"), sharing the feeling of being an “underdog.”
Bob expresses disappointment at not being nominated, noting:
"I feel foolish, but it would have been nice... I was a little bit disappointed, and especially because this would have been my first time actually being nominated" (03:48)
Banter about behind-the-scenes Emmy morning rituals, supportive teams, and the emotional highs/lows of award recognition.

2. “A Strange Loop” Broadway Deep Dive

(08:19–16:51)

Both hosts recount experiences seeing Michael R. Jackson’s Tony and Pulitzer-winning musical A Strange Loop, touching on representation, emotional resonance, and the show's searing critiques.
Bob’s review: Emotional impact and the significance of seeing it as a Black queer person:
"I cried during the song ‘Periodically’... It really fucked with you emotionally. Emotional roller coaster.” (09:33, 10:34)
Parallel between the show's depiction of religious/familial shame for queer Black men and Bob & Monét’s lived experiences.
Sharp commentary on the musical’s critique of figures like Tyler Perry and pop culture icons:
"It's a takedown piece...the way that he goes in on Tyler Perry for what he's done to the Black community..." —Bob (12:06)
Monét relates most to the “AIDS is God’s Punishment” song, reflecting on stigma in Caribbean and Black American communities.
Discussion on Tyler Perry, Beyoncé, Audre Lorde, Todrick Hall being referenced.
“Can you imagine if you went to a show and heard a dig at you? Feelings hurt...” —Bob (16:09)
Reflections on laughter, audience response, and seeing the show with friends from different backgrounds.

3. Club & Social Scene Observations

(18:14–25:30)

Monét reacts with jealousy over missing Peppermint’s performance at Soho House; discussion of LA club culture's exclusivity (e.g. Soho House, Santa Monica Cabanas).
Class comedy about showing up in a Toyota among luxury cars:
"Not my little Toyota between a Porsche and a Tesla..." —Bob (23:14)
Both hosts lampoon the idea of paying a premium for exclusivity and the LA scene’s absurdity.

4. Dog Stories & Black Trauma Responses

(25:13–32:29)

Anecdotes about neighborhood dogs (Lady Ice), fears of unleashed dogs, and a memorable story of Peppermint getting lost on a Runyon Canyon hike.
Bob observes:
"There’s also something about Black people: we don’t be trusting other folks’ dogs." (25:41)
The duo riff about Black “trauma responses”—including running and laughing, or discomfort with certain white cultural assumptions—punctuated with comic TikTok references.
Digressive but genuine convo about generational passed-down habits, social media trends, and fruit-cutting discourses.

5. Food, Stereotypes, and Black Public Identity

(32:29–41:44)

In-depth, funny, and sometimes serious conversation about Black folk and the cultural stigmas around loving watermelon, fried chicken, grape/orange soda.
Bob:
"I just want to run and laugh without feeling like a slave for running and laughing." (29:53)
Monét recounts how Black soldiers taught Koreans to fry chicken post-war, leading to the development of Korean fried chicken:
"I did Google research myself...After the Korean War, Black folk taught Koreans how to fry chicken." (34:23)
Exploration of how food and enjoyment become politicized, and decisions about “leaning in” or avoiding public eating of stereotyped foods.

6. Fast Food Hacks & Zero Calorie Drinks

(40:31–44:04)

A brief but passionate interlude on Taco Bell orders, zero-calorie sodas, and diet hacks.
"Three Doritos Locos and a Zero Baja Blast...only 500 calories." —Bob (41:03)
Both marvel over the difference in taste between regular and diet sodas and ruminate on nutritional label discrepancies.
Reflections on calories and hidden sugars in “zero” drinks, with comedic confusion about serving size math.

7. Monét’s Nightmare Hike: The Full Story

(45:41–50:53)

The episode’s titular segment: Monét recounts Andy convincing her to join a “little hike” in desert Las Vegas—what was supposed to be a 'simple' trek turned into a 7.5-mile ordeal.
Climbing, clay hills, “traversing up a clay thing,” hot springs, and unexpectedly being waist-deep in water:
"We had to climb up this metal ladder...go into this hot spring. We are in waist-deep water." —Monét (48:17)
No real “nature gear”—just Toms and Doc Martens. Complete frustration at Andy’s nonchalance:
“I wanted to heated. You were wet and cool. That’s wild.”
"He said your feet might get a little wet. Girl, I was submerged!"
Bob relates as someone who is not a “nature” person and recounts his own outdoors aversion, even sharing that he got sober on a camping trip but now avoids the great outdoors.
Both reflect on Black folks’ general reluctance toward outdoor adventure (“I didn’t just land on planet Earth today. I’m 36 years old. I’ve been in nature before.” —Bob, 50:53), the social dynamics of being the only person not wanting to jump in water, and the pressure of group expectations.

8. Old School Banter: Neighborhood Names & Friendship

(54:17–58:34)

Monét and Bob riff on real vs. fake LA/NYC neighborhood names ("Noho,” “Soho," "Meema"), the absurd proliferation of “-ha/-so” neighborhoods, and the culture war over gentrification and nicknames.
Friendly gossip about mutuals, references to earlier podcast days, and a callback to their very first episode, “I Don’t Like Hugs.”

9. Blackness, Heritage, and Apology

(39:03–65:09)

Extended tangent on “African American,” “West Indian American,” and Blackness; debates over language, food, and the specificity of U.S. Black culture vs. Caribbean culture.
Running joke about Monét’s accent “slipping out,” culminating in her being called out for code-switching in professional Zoom meetings.
Bob repeatedly requests an overdue apology from Monét for earlier gaslighting, finally culminating in a classic non-apology:
"I apologize to you if your feelings were hurt when I said..." —Monét (65:04)
"Not an apology. And I don't accept." —Bob (65:09)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Monét: "So when is my accent convenient for y’all?" (03:32; 63:59) — about code-switching and being called out.
Bob: "I didn't just land on planet earth today. Bitch, I'm 36 years old. I've been in nature before." (03:36, 50:53) — rejecting the notion that queers of color ought to “try new things.”
Bob: "There's also something about Black people: we don't be trusting other folks' dogs." (25:41)
Monét: "Watermelon has no taste. You might as well drink a cup of water." (37:20)
Bob, on fried chicken anxieties: "But it's out of defiance though... I'm doubling down because I feel weird, I'm acknowledging that there's something weird, and I'm just leaning in." (38:03)
Bob, on not liking hugs: “I just really like to promote it so that everyone knows I don't like hugs...people like to give hugs without permission.” (58:59)
Monét: “He said your feet might get a little wet, but like, it'll be okay. I was submerged in water!” (49:44)

Key Timestamps

01:27–04:57: Emmy Nominations and Reactions
08:19–16:51: Review & Discussion of A Strange Loop
18:14–25:30: Soho House & LA Club Culture
25:41–32:29: Dog Stories, Black Trauma, TikTok Trends
32:29–41:44: Food, Stereotypes, & Black Identity
45:41–50:53: Monét’s Nightmare Hike Story
54:17–58:34: Vintage Banter: Neighborhood Names, Friendship
63:59–65:09: Accent Talk & The "Apology" Showdown

Tone, Language, and Energy

The episode is fast-paced, witty, and chaotic, with moments of both sharp social commentary and exasperated humor. Bob’s energy oscillates between philosophical and deadpan; Monét’s storytelling is animated, occasionally exasperated, but always playful. Their banter is rich with inside jokes, timely pop culture references, and vulnerability.

For New Listeners

This episode is a compact summary of what makes Sibling Rivalry beloved: drag royalty with zero filter, plenty of shade, earthy confessions, and genuine connection. You’ll leave with laughs, a couple of “hmm” moments, and appreciation for Black queer perspectives in entertainment.

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[01:01]
Bob the Drag Queen
My name is Bob the Drag Queen,
[01:03]
Monet X Change
and I'm Monet X Change.
[01:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
And this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, Monet wades in the water.
[01:28]
Monet X Change
We talk all about strange loop, and
[01:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
we find out what made Monet say this.
[01:33]
Monet X Change
So when is my accent convenient for y'?
[01:34]
Shannon Maldonado
All?
[01:34]
Monet X Change
And we find out what made Bob say this.
[01:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, I didn't just land on planet earth today. Bitch, I'm 36 years old. I've been in nature before. You'd have been for outstanding short form nonfiction or reality series, who they go to? Let's see. The Daily Show, Full Frontal with Samantha bee.
[01:55]
Monet X Change
Whatcha packing?
[01:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
RuPaul's Drag Race. Whatcha packing With Michelle Passage.
[01:58]
Monet X Change
Like, not what you're packing.
[02:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
Saturday Night Live presents not what you're packing. Stories from the show and Top Chef, Last Chance Kitchen.
[02:07]
Monet X Change
Not even thing on it. Five gays, one girl, five gays. No, it's Canadian, isn't it? No, not that one. The gay guys on Netflix.
[02:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, no, they are nominated.
[02:20]
Monet X Change
They were in that same category, though, for something.
[02:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
They're nominated. Absolutely. Well, they're nominated for best host and they're also nominated for Structure Program.
[02:32]
Monet X Change
Yeah, they were in. They were. That's the one I was in the category for, too. Structured program. We definitely didn't get that one.
[02:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
That is Antiques Roadshow. Oh, this.
[02:41]
Monet X Change
This category that they had me, and I'm like, you put me against Queer
[02:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Eye, Love is blind, Shark Tank and Antique Rocha.
[02:48]
Monet X Change
When I saw that, I was like, Joe, like, how? There's no way we could win that category, get nominated, right?
[02:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Guys did get Nominated in the category that I would have been nominated for, which is.
[02:57]
Monet X Change
Well, let's say this for cameras.
[03:00]
Shannon Maldonado
Wrong.
[03:01]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, and then the category that I would have been nominated for was Unstructured Out. Can you see Unstructured reality program. And the nominees this year.
[03:12]
Monet X Change
And the nominees are.
[03:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
Below deck. Mediterranean.
[03:16]
Monet X Change
Ew Cheer.
[03:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
Which one? Love on already has one Emmy.
[03:21]
Monet X Change
Oh, Love on the Spectrum. That's actually a really good show.
[03:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
Love on the spectrum. Us.
[03:24]
Monet X Change
Uhhuh.
[03:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
RuPaul untucked. They won. They also won. And Selling Sunset. Selling Sunset, which I don't know if they've won or not, but two of these have already won this category.
[03:36]
Monet X Change
But Jay had me against Antiques Roadshow, which everyone in middle America is watching. Queer Eye, Shark Tank. Like, these are like Variety. I feel.
[03:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel foolish, but it would have been nice to. It would have been great. It would have been great. And I was a little bit disappointed, and especially because this would have been my first time actually being nominated if. If we would have gotten the same nomination we got last time.
[04:04]
Monet X Change
Did you. Did you, like, wake up this morning?
[04:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, I woke up this morning and went straight to, like. I literally watched the RuPaul Drag Race
[04:12]
Monet X Change
All Stars Season 7, Episode 9. You watched that and then you.
[04:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Then you did yours. No, because we said that Jaco said we weren't doing nine. I asked her, we're doing nine. And people said, no, we're not doing Watcher. Y' all are both online.
[04:25]
Monet X Change
I literally said, luro Jaggers All Stars Season 7, Episode 9. That's mine. Not your season. Everything's not about you. Everything's not about you.
[04:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
You are. Yo, Monet. Is these immunos.
[04:37]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[04:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me guess.
[04:38]
Monet X Change
I'm on one.
[04:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, these Emmyons got Monet on one. Honey, I saw her fucking yelling at her phone today. Yelling at her team.
[04:46]
Monet X Change
Not yelling at my team.
[04:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
Jay Defeo crying right now. Liter crying. I saw a sad. I saw a sad dog.
[04:54]
Monet X Change
Oh, God. Do not talk about that. You are so extra.
[04:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
I can't talk about the. But Colleen's abuse.
[05:00]
Monet X Change
Colleen is not abusing anyone.
[05:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's the dog's hat. Okay, I have two questions, and just answer them. And don't. Don't expunge on the topics, please. Is the. Was the dog sad?
[05:10]
Monet X Change
Yes.
[05:11]
Bob the Drag Queen
Does the dog live with Colleen? Answer the questions. Don't expunge. What's the dog sad? Is potato sad?
[05:19]
Monet X Change
Yes.
[05:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
And does potato live with Colleen?
[05:21]
Advertiser
Yes.
[05:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
I rest my face.
[05:22]
Monet X Change
Okay, so exhibit A, your honor. Add these dog potatoes.
[05:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
I did screen record that video because I knew you're gonna try to act like you went and deleted your clothes. I saw you after I mentioned out loud Monet went and deleted her little close friend story.
[05:33]
Monet X Change
I did not.
[05:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's still up there. And I screen recorded it. So I have evidence.
[05:37]
Monet X Change
Andy's dog, Potato is very codependent. Like, it is also like some type of Chihuahua.
[05:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
Not the victim blaming.
[05:42]
Shannon Maldonado
Go ahead.
[05:43]
Monet X Change
Just some type of Chihuahua cross breed with like, it's a Chihuahua mutt. There's some Chihuahua in there. And people know Chihuahua shake. So every time Andy leaves, the dog literally goes by the front door where
[05:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
it feels safe away from Colleen.
[05:58]
Monet X Change
And it's just like shaking and looking sad. And I'd just be like, what is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?
[06:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's the dog is Cinderella. You're the wicked stepmother and Colleen is all of the wicked stepsisters. That's what's going on. And I'm just going to start the hashtag justiceforpotato because there needs to be some.
[06:20]
Monet X Change
We need some.
[06:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
We need some in home. You're laughing because you know it's true. We need some in home Investigations investigating on the safety of Potato in the mix of the diabolical. Colleen, please.
[06:38]
Monet X Change
You are so ridiculous. Also, I found the pictures and I'm gonna post it on Patreon of you canoodling with Colleen and other cats and this. There's more than Colleen Paul likes to put on this front for. Yes. Oh, yeah, honey, I have the Ocula proof.
[06:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
I will be posting on the ocular proof. I hate when you say ocular proof. I hate when you say I'm going
[06:58]
Monet X Change
to post on the patriarch. I was like, because Bobby putting on and I can't wait.
[07:01]
Bob the Drag Queen
Part of me canoodling with cats.
[07:02]
Monet X Change
Don't worry about it. Either it exists or it doesn't. We'll find out by 2pm today that they're recording this podcast.
[07:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know that when Monet says she's dropping receipts. Bitch. Monet is not. Is Duane Reade. Because there's no receipts.
[07:15]
Monet X Change
I'm dropping them.
[07:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
The receipts are short, they're tiny and they're non existent. Honey.
[07:19]
Monet X Change
Pat and I was talking to the. They were like, do you think that cvs, like, have they not gotten the memo? Why do the receipts still need to be this long? No one is redeeming anything. Stop wasting trees. Stop it. Cvs. No one has ever taken the CVS receipt back and been like, oh, give me my $2 off. Have you ever done that?
[07:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
[07:37]
Monet X Change
Jacob. Have you ever done it?
[07:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
But I do have never done it. Oh, Jacob. Not on the mic. Don't ask Jacob no question.
[07:44]
Monet X Change
Because we can put a little subtitle.
[07:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
If these patrons hear Jacob talking without a mic, they gonna lie.
[07:49]
Monet X Change
You know, I honor what Jacob. Jacob doesn't want to be on camera. You. You like to bully Jacob like Jacob. Jacob said.
[07:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
What I say is, if you're gonna talk, I don't say get on camera. I say, if you're gonna talk, be on a microphone. Which feels completely Mickey.
[08:03]
Monet X Change
Jacob doesn't, like, want to hear his voice.
[08:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob shouldn't talk on the podcast.
[08:05]
Monet X Change
We can put subtitles.
[08:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
They never put subtitles.
[08:08]
Monet X Change
Well, we can, but we don't even
[08:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
get pictures when we try to put them on there, let alone subtitles.
[08:12]
Monet X Change
That's because you don't send them. I'll be sending my pictures.
[08:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
My pictures being there also. Also a falsehood. Okay, that is.
[08:20]
Monet X Change
What is this shirt you have on?
[08:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
It is from the. The Tony Award winning A Strange Loop.
[08:28]
Monet X Change
Oh, let's talk about a strange Loop. Okay. So we saw it different times. I did see it. What was your experience with A Strange Loop?
[08:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
So I had an experience. So I went to go see Strange Loop with Peppermint Kennedy.
[08:39]
Monet X Change
The Peppermint Gummy Bear.
[08:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
The Peppermint Gummy Bear.
[08:42]
Monet X Change
Wow.
[08:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Pep, Kennedy and Alfredo. So it was two black people, a white lady and a white Puerto Rican guy. And there were some moments. Well, I wanted to sit next to Pep, but she ended up coming.
[09:02]
Monet X Change
And V. Peppermguffy Bear was lame.
[09:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't say that word.
[09:05]
Monet X Change
I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it.
[09:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
I said she was. And so Pep ended up coming a little, and she said at the end of the aisle, and I was in. We could have rearranged it, but it doesn't matter, because I really wanted the experience of seeing the show with another black queer person. And I was between these two white people watching this show, and I was. But me and Pep were, like, reaching down the aisle, like, grabbing hands and, like, laughing and. And I was. I cried during the show.
[09:33]
Monet X Change
Did you really?
[09:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, for sure.
[09:35]
Monet X Change
100%.
[09:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think I cried at the point where most people cry with feelings. I don't know if you.
[09:40]
Monet X Change
Yeah, I didn't expect. I don't have those.
[09:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I cried during the song periodically.
[09:45]
Monet X Change
Which one is that one?
[09:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's one. It's where the Jamaican guy. You should relate with a Jamaican actor named John Andrew, who sings, I just like to remind you periodically that I love you, son. And he's wearing a Like a church lady outfit.
[10:03]
Monet X Change
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[10:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's right before it, by the way, we need to say spoiler alert.
[10:07]
Monet X Change
Spoiler alert. Yes, Spoiler alert.
[10:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm give you five seconds to gather your belongings and leave the room.
[10:14]
Monet X Change
And five seconds has happened. This is right before the AIDS part.
[10:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
Right before the AIDS is God's Punishment, which is the name of the song
[10:21]
Monet X Change
which they just started revealing more and more pieces of the set. I was like, this is getting. Was wild.
[10:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
It was really wild when, when, when the actor comes out in that robe.
[10:29]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[10:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
And then they see the set and the top half of the set and the cross and the big HIV and the casket.
[10:34]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[10:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
It was a combination of me like dying laughing and gagging and gagging and sobbing and yeah. It really with you emotionally. Because emotional roller coaster.
[10:45]
Monet X Change
It really. That part took me on the. The emotional journey that I had with my saying that I'm gay and every and all the stigma people put on me for being a gay man. And like what I know my people in my church thought people in my family what I thought people in my family thought. Like I was like, this feels so real.
[11:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And it's. And it's about a guy named Usher who is. Who at the time was a. A shred Lion King.
[11:12]
Monet X Change
Oh, that's what. This is what it was.
[11:14]
Advertiser
Right.
[11:14]
Monet X Change
That's what he ended up making. All the.
[11:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know.
[11:16]
Monet X Change
They were just doing that for the thing or if that's really his story.
[11:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
The mom's Sarabi and. And there's like a scar and all these people.
[11:22]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[11:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
And so he's told by his family that, that if you, if you're gay, you'll die of aids.
[11:30]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[11:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
And then his cousin did die of AIDS or complications due to aids, I think is the more the appropriate way to say it. The medically sound way to say it.
[11:39]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[11:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't die of aids.
[11:41]
Monet X Change
And
[11:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
then, you know, his mother wants him to. I. I really want to see Tyler Perry. The day Tyler Perry goes. I want to be in the audience.
[11:51]
Monet X Change
I think Tyler Perry knows about.
[11:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, he knows what Topper tweeted about it.
[11:54]
Monet X Change
What did he say?
[11:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
He said something like it was a congratulations on winning the Pulitzer Prize and like, I'm going to kick your ass. Hahaha. Lol. Something like that.
[12:03]
Monet X Change
Nigga.
[12:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think Tyler Perry is used to being shit on.
[12:05]
Monet X Change
This is true. A lot of people have.
[12:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
But this is a takedown piece like it is. I mean the title, like the way that he goes in on Tyler Perry
[12:14]
Monet X Change
for what he's done to the black
[12:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
community for hours is. And I think. I don't think it's a completely fair take on Tyler Perry.
[12:23]
Monet X Change
I don't think so either. I mean. I mean, I don't think it's completely fair, but I think everything that the. What? What the what? The composer, artist, Michael R. Jackson. Michael R. Jackson. Majority of what he said, I'm like, you're not wrong.
[12:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't disagree with what he's saying, but it is subjective. And I think there are lots of people who feel uplifted and people who
[12:45]
Monet X Change
are drunk in religion, though. People who cannot see the forest through the trees of religion.
[12:49]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, when I was. I used to like Tyler Perry and I wasn't drunk on religion. I used to just think it was funny stuff. And I thought that I saw a lot of my family members on. In those plays. I saw people that I knew, parodies of people that I knew, exaggerated versions of people that I knew. But isn't that theater? Isn't this show an exaggerated version of gay guy? Of, like, being a black gay guy?
[13:10]
Monet X Change
You know what I mean? This is me through and through work. I saw it with Andrew Thomas Short and Arya. So a white ass motherfucker and a black ass lady.
[13:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's what my.
[13:23]
Monet X Change
That's what I did. Yeah. Yeah. And so R.C. and I, a lot of it, we would do our little, like, bitch, like our own Kiki Kakan. And Andy would just kind of.
[13:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, there were some moments where there
[13:34]
Monet X Change
were jokes in the show and white people were laughing.
[13:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm like, what do y'? All? Like, how do y' all even know about this? Like, what do you even laugh? What are you even laughing at? Like, there's no way you even understand the context.
[13:44]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[13:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
Was there a particular song that really stuck with you? Because I started listening to the soundtrack after the Broadway and the original cast, like, back and forth. They were doing a cast with Larry Owens.
[13:54]
Monet X Change
I like the AIDS point. The AIDS song.
[13:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
AIDS is God's punishment.
[13:58]
Shannon Maldonado
Aids.
[13:58]
Monet X Change
God's punishment.
[14:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
And yeah, I really. Tyler Perry writes Real life Stuck With Me, which is the song that goes, who the fuck is you?
[14:10]
Monet X Change
Oh, that is the one too, nigga.
[14:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
You lick it, but you ain't no true.
[14:14]
Monet X Change
Yeah, nigga. Yeah, that is a good one, that.
[14:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I walked around saying that for days, and it really is just. It's just catchy. I kind of want to make like a. Like a. A mixtape where I like, who the fuck is. Who the fuck is you?
[14:33]
Monet X Change
Sample it.
[14:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Look at what? You ain't no. You got.
[14:37]
Monet X Change
I want to get how Talbert feels knowing that some of, like, his, like, friends in the industry were producers on it and they, like, made sure they saw the light of day.
[14:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, not just Tyler Perry, but, I mean, Beyonce is. He takes stabs at Beyonce.
[14:52]
Advertiser
He did.
[14:52]
Monet X Change
When he.
[14:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
He just didn't like Beyonce. He also takes stabs at what's her name. What's her name? Famous black lesbian.
[15:01]
Monet X Change
Lena Waithe.
[15:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, dead. Activist. Feminist. Anyway, I remember there's a jab at her in the play, and I was like, oh, and like her as, like, a dead person. And I was like, this is. But it also is done through this lens of how people talk about us as well. So it's really. It is really. I think it's Audre Lorde.
[15:35]
Monet X Change
I don't know.
[15:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. There's a line where he's like, maybe it's not Audre Lorde, but it was like, dead. Dead dyke Audre Lorde. And I was like, what did. Jesus.
[15:43]
Monet X Change
Dead dyke. That alliteration is kind of wild.
[15:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
But it was also not. It's written from the perspective of someone who is homophobic. And there's also a dig at Todrick hall on the show, too.
[15:54]
Monet X Change
Yes.
[15:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
Who went to go see it and didn't know about it until he heard his name in the show.
[16:00]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[16:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
And was like, oh, my. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if I went to a show and. And I heard a dig at me but that I did not know was in the show.
[16:09]
Monet X Change
Feelings hurt.
[16:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I would be like, feelings hurt. Oh, my God.
[16:13]
Monet X Change
Such a. It's like, if it's. It feels like a deeply pointed, personal one. Feelings hurt, for sure. I think that. But also the reason why there is a little, like, grace in. In this.
[16:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
In.
[16:23]
Monet X Change
In. In the. In the protagonist's storyline. Storyline. And his viewpoint is because. Because he is this black gay man. Like, you feel, like, the anger that he must have at the world because his experience in life is so tainted by all of this stuff. Like, so. Yes. You see why he's. I mean, again, I. I'm not Todrick Hall. I'm not Tyler Perry. I'm not Beyonce. I'm not there seeing Harry.
[16:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
What if you were all those people? Aren't we all all the same? Don't we all come from one place?
[16:52]
Monet X Change
Let's take a break.
[16:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
Am I not you and are you not me?
[16:54]
Monet X Change
Let's take a break and I'll tell you why I'm not you.
[17:01]
Advertiser
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[17:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like groceries. If you want groceries just how you
[17:06]
Advertiser
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Grow Therapy Representative
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Advertiser
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Grow Therapy Representative
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Advertiser
that I wouldn't get my new contacts
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Grow Therapy Representative
in time for this class.
[17:34]
Advertiser
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[17:38]
Monet X Change
And breathe.
[17:39]
Grow Therapy Representative
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[17:42]
Advertiser
the discount they gave me on my first order.
[17:44]
Grow Therapy Representative
Oh, sorry.
[17:46]
Advertiser
Namaste.
[17:47]
Monet X Change
Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order.
[17:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
1-800-contacts. We're back. But you have a song called Bitch, I'm Beyonce. So are you Beyonce or you're not Beyonce? So I don't know when the truth is the truth. Just now we say you're not Beyonce. Or is the truth in your chart topping song that you made money off of perpetuating? And I think you are indeed Beyonce. So can you explain yourself to us, please? We deserve answers. Do we deserve answers or not?
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Monet X Change
I'm very jealous.
[18:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
Of what?
[18:16]
Monet X Change
You went to Pep's show the other day. If Pep did not invite me, I did not know her. I miss seeing a peppermint show. I'm very. I was, like, very angry because if I knew that was happening, I would not have scheduled dinner. I would have went to the show.
[18:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you had dinner.
[18:26]
Monet X Change
I would have. I would have not have. But I'd already scheduled it. If I had known before, I would have went to.
[18:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
I would. I didn't eat anytime until the day of. Like, Pep was like, I have a show.
[18:35]
Monet X Change
No, because you told me the night before. So you lying.
[18:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, no, no. I said, pep's coming over. I want to reiterate this again. For the umpteen time, what I kept saying was, peppermint.
[18:43]
Monet X Change
Oh, go ahead, give it to me, daddy.
[18:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
I said, peppermint is coming over.
[18:47]
Monet X Change
And then you said that. You said. And later, Peppermint. And I. Danny said. He said, then I'm going to Peppermint Show. You told me that the night before.
[18:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, because if it was the night before, I'm saying It was within 24 hours. I didn't know weeks in advance. I found out, like, the day. Because me and Pep Were planning to hang out here.
[19:02]
Monet X Change
Do you want to apologize for the first thing you said something. You do it.
[19:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, because me and kept being like, that's. Do you remember. Y' all remember this conversation? That's the evening. That's the evening. That's the evening.
[19:12]
Monet X Change
And that's where that whole conversation came from.
[19:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Actually, I think that was the day of. No, it was the day before we recorded a podcast. That was when I kept. You kept. No, you said, what are you doing? No, because you said, what are you doing today? You are gas.
[19:22]
Monet X Change
Me. Oh, you're gas.
[19:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God. Please.
[19:28]
Monet X Change
What? You.
[19:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's happening. Y' all see it?
[19:30]
Monet X Change
Okay.
[19:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
I just.
[19:30]
Monet X Change
I just literally apologize because you were. All right.
[19:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
That was literally apologizing. Now you have the opportunity to. I'm giving you the opportunity to literally. Now, literally, who the is you apologize. I would apologize to you.
[19:45]
Monet X Change
You know, and I don't feel like
[19:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
I need to act dignified to deserve my apology.
[19:48]
Monet X Change
See, you're about to lose it, because I was just about to say, didn't cut me off. So cut me off one more time. You're good.
[19:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, my apologies based on. Apologize to me.
[19:56]
Monet X Change
You're not gonna tell me what to apologize. I'll apologize before this podcast is over. How about that?
[20:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
Will you?
[20:00]
Monet X Change
I will.
[20:01]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna remind you every five minutes, you keep pushing it back at the last second.
[20:05]
Monet X Change
I will tell you this.
[20:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyways, what I'm saying is, that day, I found out because me and Pep were hanging out. But then Pep told me that she had a show at the Soho House. Jacob's like, why is Pep in town? And I was like, yeah, I didn't even think to say, bitch, why are you in town? And then she was like, I'm doing a show at the Soho House. Which I did a show at the Soho House years ago in New York City.
[20:21]
Monet X Change
The one over here in LA is nice.
[20:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I went to the one in WeHo.
[20:25]
Monet X Change
Did she do it in the theater?
[20:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
There's like, no. There's, like, a lounge space up there.
[20:28]
Monet X Change
There's a lounge space, and there's also the theater where I wear the Lady J had a preview of one of her movies coming out, and I went to go see. There was very nice.
[20:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
And she was in the cabaret lounge. And it was so. It was. It felt like I was back at.
[20:38]
Monet X Change
I'm very jealous. I'm very jealous. So house costs $2,600 a year.
[20:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob says, subscribe. Jacob. Jacob just says that. So house costs $2,600 a year.
[20:50]
Monet X Change
And you remember this in the pandemic, the Soho House. You remember this?
[20:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
What?
[20:55]
Monet X Change
When Stingray got regular, the Soho House had reached out to us and they were like, hey, we would love. We love Sim rivalry. We love Bob and Monet. We love them to do a podcast specific about the Soho House. And we would give them a membership for it was either a year or like a couple years. And you and I were like, n. Get pay us.
[21:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, I see. The short answer is I certainly wouldn't do it for a podcast, but I don't think that joining sohouse makes sense to me. I don't like going out that much like that anymore.
[21:23]
Monet X Change
Yeah, me either. And you also have to pay.
[21:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
I get.
[21:26]
Monet X Change
It's an exclusive member's only place, but you still gotta pay for your parking, you gotta pay for your drinks, you
[21:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
gotta pay for your everything. Yeah. And. But there. But you don't pay for the entertainment. And you get to be in a place that's pretty much promised to be never crowded. Crowded.
[21:38]
Monet X Change
Right.
[21:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
And you don't have to wait a long time, I guess. And it feels exclusive, I reckon. But like, one of my friends is a member of, like, the what? I reckon. And I wouldn't know because I've never been a member, but one of my friends is a member of the, like, Santa Monica Cabanas. Can you Google it? It's the Something Cabanas. And I went there and it's just like this restaurant here in la. It's here in la. It's right off Santa Monica. I sound like such an LA person. It's right off Santa Monica. No, if you take Fountain down toward.
[22:11]
Monet X Change
Oh, my God, you're getting. You're getting more la.
[22:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
You're getting more and more la. If you take Fountain going west away from La Brea and then it's like a little bit past North Crescent Heights.
[22:24]
Monet X Change
I'm not nice enough to go there.
[22:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's West Hollywood. It's in West Hollywood.
[22:27]
Monet X Change
Okay.
[22:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's something Cabanas. And I went there and it was like everyone there was just so, like, fancy. And you can't take your phones in.
[22:35]
Monet X Change
Really?
[22:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Or they take your phone and put a sticker over the camera. Like you can't take pictures in there or anything interesting. And it's like super elite. And like.
[22:42]
Monet X Change
Who'd you go with?
[22:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
Steve Warren, who's one of the creators over here. Yeah, he and I had like a little. A little date. It was just me and him.
[22:48]
Monet X Change
I wasn't his partner.
[22:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think his partner may have Been out of town. His partner's from Tennessee. He may have been visiting family. So Steve and I just had a date down there.
[22:54]
Monet X Change
I hate to say this to you.
[22:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
And also, I felt crunchy as hell. Always, girl. Because you have to. What do you call it? Valet. I'm waiting. And there's like a Lamborghini and a Hummer and a G Wagon and a Porsche, and bitch, my little Toyota came around the corner. I said, not. Not my little Toyota. And, like, between a Porsche and a
[23:15]
Monet X Change
fucking Tesla, at least you'll just wrap. So it looks very nice.
[23:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, that's the trick. Get yourself a not that expensive car and then just give it a custom wrap job.
[23:23]
Monet X Change
Just change the logo.
[23:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I probably. They took the logos off of mine and just put.
[23:27]
Monet X Change
You should put B. Oh, your logo. That would be everything.
[23:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
I could get myself a. A custom printed logo.
[23:33]
Monet X Change
Do it. It would get people be like, what's a Bob? People would get like. And it would just send me their phones. I'm. You know what I mean? You need to get your shit together here. So I came here. What the talking about? I came here to come to work, Okay? I get out the elevator, and when I tell you a fucking animal was chasing me down your fucking hallway with his big white dog, Bob, when I
[24:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
tell you lady, her name. First of all, her name is Lady Ice and Bob.
[24:06]
Monet X Change
And the thing is galloping down the hallway like a horse in a field.
[24:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
Lady runs these streets. And I was like.
[24:12]
Monet X Change
And then. So she's coming. I was like, like, whoa, whoa.
[24:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I turned the other way to
[24:14]
Monet X Change
walk away this fucking. And the lady was like, no, it's okay.
[24:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, this.
[24:17]
Monet X Change
It's not okay. That's inappropriate.
[24:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, lady is the colleen of this. Of this estate, y'.
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Shannon Maldonado
All.
[24:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
The dog. It's like.
[24:24]
Monet X Change
It's like the size of a Great Dane.
[24:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's like a big poodle.
[24:27]
Monet X Change
It's a big white poodle.
[24:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
And it is. It's tried to come in our house before. Have you seen this, Jacob? It will run up. It is a very friendly dog. She's just very curious. Sometimes she does bark, which I don't know.
[24:40]
Monet X Change
She was barking and galloping.
[24:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, she barks and runs, but she's never, like, tried to, like, hurt that I've seen. She don't bite. No, she doesn't bite.
[24:50]
Monet X Change
She got teeth, right? Like, she bites something and.
[24:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
But no, lady is. I think. I do think that they should put lady on a leash all the way to the elevator, but lady doesn't really scare Me that much. And I like the people who that lady has a relationship with. And. No, but lady is wild. She is wild girl.
[25:14]
Monet X Change
Just. And also because the hair, I guess his knees are trim. So, like, the hair is like blowing in the wind and this is galloping at me.
[25:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
You can hear what we're saying. I mean, well, I mean, we have to get aggressed by a dog. So I think that if lady can run up to us, we are allowed to talk about Lady. That seems fair to me.
[25:31]
Monet X Change
Oh, I was gagged. I was like, I thought someone's dog broke the leash. She's about to fucking attack me. I was about to suit a pants off of you. I would own everything. This would be my podcast studio. All these lights and cameras and shit.
[25:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
There's also something about black people.
[25:44]
Shannon Maldonado
Really?
[25:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't be trusting other folks, dog.
[25:45]
Monet X Change
I don't.
[25:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
We were at. We were on Runyon Canyon with Pep and we were coming. First of all, Pep, I don't know if I ever told this on the podcast. So Pep is. Is lost on Running Canyon. So the night before. Okay, let me full story. The night before, me and Jacob are our downtown, like at Peps Airbnb. We're hanging out. We're playing some. Some card game. I can't remember the name of the game. It was really fun, actually. And then I was like, just so you know, tomorrow me and Alaska are doing running together. And she goes, oh, I want to come. And I said, work girl. She goes, but, you know, I don't. I don't have great knees, so coming down might be a problem. But I will walk up the. I will walk up running Cane with you and then take an Uber home. And I said, okay, work. That makes sense.
[26:30]
Monet X Change
You can get an Uber at the top of running in.
[26:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, you can. There's an entrance on both sides. There's a parking lot at the top. At the top of running. I don't know if you want to park. You got to go to the top and come down.
[26:38]
Monet X Change
I haven't knew that.
[26:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
So she says, okay. So then we. We. We were headed there and was. So she so ended up saying, okay, you are already there. Don't worry, I'll meet you at the top and walk down with you then. So Pep takes Uber to. So me and Alaska and Jacob are walking up Runyon, but when you get run, you don't have great service, right? So Pep's trying to. So Pep ends up like, texting at some point. I was like. And I remember saying to Jacob, pep's gonna get in here and be lost. I know she's gonna be lost.
[27:07]
Monet X Change
He's like, bitch, where are y'?
[27:08]
Shannon Maldonado
All?
[27:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
So Pep is texting us like, where are you? And we're like. So we're trying to give descriptions, but everything looks. It's like a piece of road and a piece of dirt. It's like everything is the same thing. So we're trying to find Pep. Pep is sending pictures of things to, like, show where she is, but not like a far back picture with a lot of context. Like a close up picture of a rock on the ground. I can show you the pictures that Pep sending me. I will try to get these on the screen. She's like, I'm near this, and it's like a zoomed in picture of a rock on the ground. I'm like, pep, that is not giving me anything. So then she's like, I'm by a cell phone tower. I'm like, okay, it's a tower. So we're looking. We know where the tower is. So Jacob is like, running. Was your mom with us too? No. So Jacob's running to try to get Pap. Me and Alaska are off the trail. We're running behind Jacob. Jacob goes off the little secret paths on Runyon all the time.
[27:56]
Monet X Change
And then I bet he does.
[27:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
It gets to the point where me and Pep are like, screaming on Runyon Canyon. You hear Pep going like, bob. And I'm like, pep, avalanche. So we're screaming to each other. And then I see Pep at the top of it. Pep is at the top. I mean, as high as you can get on rain. Pep is at the summit of Runyon Canyon. So then we all, me, Alaska and Jacob are like, climbing up this thing. That is not. I don't think it's a path. It is like a. Is very steep. We're like rock climbing at this point to get to Pep. And then as we come down the hill to where it meets the paved road, this dog just runs up to us. No, you remember this, Jacob. This dog just. I mean, just gallops. And all the white people like, hey, is it there? That's not. Oh, God. So you know, Jacob in Alaska are.
[28:52]
Monet X Change
What's your name?
[28:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I'm like, keeping my distance. Pep is paralyzed with fear. I mean, paralyzed. Strike a pose. And we're trying to get the dog away. That was all. To say that. To say that. That is. I think that's a common. I saw this thing on TikTok recently. I was kind of like, I don't know how I feel about this what? Whenever, like, black people talk about anything on TikTok, one, like, black person joins, like, stitches the video, and it goes, well, you know why this is? It's because of slavery. And everything goes back to this. Which part of me is like, I don't need to know all this. Like, one was. Like. One was like, English, like, American English. And the phrase is. That's very funny. And then it said, aave. And then it's just someone just running away while laughing. And then it stitched someone being like, well, you know why that is?
[29:48]
Monet X Change
It's because I know what you mean. Things like the peanut gallery and other things like that. Yeah.
[29:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
The only reason we run while we laugh is because it is a generational trouble response to blah, blah, blah. I'm like, I just want to run and laugh. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just want to run and laugh without feeling like a slave for running and laughing. And there's also this conversation going on right now on TikTok where it's about how to carve fruit. So there's this one thing about this. This guy carves a coconut in a way where only the membrane is there. It's like he carves.
[30:25]
Monet X Change
Is it a hard one or green one?
[30:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's one of the green ones.
[30:27]
Monet X Change
Okay. Yeah.
[30:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
But he does it in this way. And all these Caribbeans are seeing me like, I've never seen.
[30:32]
Monet X Change
I've never seen that. Normally, you. You take the cutlass and you chop it. Chop it, chop. And you haven't had. I've never seen you. No one carves a coconut.
[30:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
No. The way he does it. Everyone who's doing is like, this is. All these Korean folks are like, this is brilliant. I will only be doing this from now on. I've never. I. Why they're all being like, why have I never seen this? Why have I in all my years? Why am I just now seeing this? He carves the coconut.
[30:55]
Monet X Change
Oh, okay.
[30:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's just like the.
[30:58]
Monet X Change
Interesting.
[30:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
So he's. That's the same. Every Caribbean person has the same.
[31:03]
Monet X Change
That's. Wow, that's like. It's just like the jelly. Wow, that's crazy.
[31:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
So everyone's like. Anyway, so there's a discourse now on TikTok about how to cut watermelons. And you know who's not participating?
[31:19]
Monet X Change
White people.
[31:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
Any black people? No. Black people are participating in the conversation that I've seen on TikTok about how to cut watermelon. Because I think publicly Liking watermelon is like. Is like a faux pal. There was this woman on TikTok who
[31:34]
Monet X Change
was taking to this place downtown called Fixins. You'll love it.
[31:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
There was this woman was. It was the watermelon there.
[31:39]
Monet X Change
It was soul food, but it's like really good soul food.
[31:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
There was this. There was this woman, fried chicken TikTok, who used to, like, obsess over watermelon. She was like, she. Watermelons helped her. And I'm not saying she's right or wrong. I just want to say out loud right now, because I didn't dive deep enough into her content to decide whether or not she's right or wrong. But she said that she was sick and unhealthy, and then she ate a lot of watermelon and she. And she got healthy. And that was part of her journey of regaining her health and eating healthier foods. And she would make these absurd videos eating watermelon. And I mean, like, almost triggering videos of this black woman eating watermelon. In the. Her name was Johnny Watermelon. In the. Can you find a Johnny Watermelon video, Jacob? Her name is Johnny Watermelon.
[32:29]
Monet X Change
Not you putting this in Jacob Search history.
[32:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
And she would. And she would eat watermelons. And he's like, in these really egregious, like, intentionally. I don't know her intentions, but it looked. It looked. It looked like a buckwheat type character
[32:45]
Monet X Change
eating, like, little, like, close on her hair. And like.
[32:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, she just kind of wasn't wearing a wig. And she was usually in sportswear. She's using, like, a sports bra or, like, some bike shorts, and she just wasn't wearing a wig. So her. She had her natural hair out, and sometimes she would wear a wig, but then she would, like, get the wig, like, knocked off of her head.
[33:05]
Monet X Change
And this, like, made her famous.
[33:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. But it also made her, like, public enemy number one to black people. Black people. And part of me is kind of like, I see this. Oh, God, she just eats watermelon and.
[33:19]
Monet X Change
Really egregious. Yeah, yeah.
[33:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
And part of me is like, I feel like this is part of the trauma response now. I'm one of those people.
[33:32]
Monet X Change
You have fully become this lady.
[33:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, why can't. Why can't black people just like watermelon and eat it in public?
[33:37]
Monet X Change
And I think you can't deny what the stigma. Like, what if you just like watermelon?
[33:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, you can't.
[33:42]
Monet X Change
Yeah. And that's the thing. But you doing that thing, you also have to acknowledge, like, the Stigma, stigma behind it. And what had. And how black people haven't made to feel about liking Welch's Grape Soda fried chicken and watermelon like that. That is also a real thing. And then you can't feel embarrassed about liking fried chicken. I, I have, I've never felt that embarrassed about fried chicken. Do you know, I just found out the other day. Do you know that black people taught Koreans how to make fried chicken? I didn't know that.
[34:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, they turned it up because Korean fried chicken is banging.
[34:06]
Monet X Change
After the Korean bus after the Korean War, you know, a lot of black soldiers were there. And, and, and because traditionally before Koreans would boil their chicken or they would. Or do it other ways. And then this is a fact. This is a fact. This is on. This was on. This is on. I watched a whole Food Network thing about it and then I did Google research myself and yeah, like, like an
[34:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
anti vaxxer Money did her own research.
[34:26]
Monet X Change
After the Korean War, black folk were there in, in Korea and they taught Koreans how to fry chicken. And, and they took it. Oh, it's on another echelon.
[34:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know what they do, but they, they have a really great. They Koreans.
[34:41]
Monet X Change
I don't know what they do.
[34:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Figure. Oh, my God, this is that great. Cocoa wings.
[34:46]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[34:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God, y'.
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[34:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
If you live in New York City, 106 between Amsterdam and Broadway. Cocoa wings. But you got to go to the KFC across the street, get some ranch.
[34:55]
Monet X Change
They don't have ranch.
[34:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
But the KFC's not even there anymore.
[34:58]
Monet X Change
I love my Korean fried chicken whiskey. You gotta go around the corner.
[35:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
There's also McDonald's on 103 in Amsterdam. Take that McDonald's up to 116 and Broadway. Go to Cocoa Chicken. Get the garlic and parmesan or the spicy. Oh my God, it's so good. Yeah.
[35:13]
Monet X Change
I've never felt any way about eating fried chicken about like in grapes by that woman.
[35:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
Liking, like doing, doing this whole watermelon bit.
[35:19]
Monet X Change
I think that she's doing. I think she's doing a bit to, to stir a conversation. I, you know. But again, who doesn't? This is what people do on the social media channels. Am I upset by that? No, but I. If someone felt insecure about eating watermelon and had that in their brain about liking fried chicken. Watermelon, I can see how that could be triggering for black folk, but I'm not triggering.
[35:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you like fried chicken and watermelon?
[35:38]
Monet X Change
I don't like watermelon. I hate watermelon. It has watermelon. It's one of those fruits. It has no fucking taste. You might as well drink a cup of water.
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[37:16]
Monet X Change
I hate watermelon. I love fried chicken, though.
[37:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
If I ever see you eating a cantaloupe.
[37:21]
Monet X Change
I don't, I don't, I don't like. I don't like cantaloupe. Watermelon.
[37:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
No one likes cantaloupe or honeydew. But it's always in the fruit salad, right? And it could get out of my fruit salad. No one wants yours.
[37:30]
Monet X Change
Do you like watermelon?
[37:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I like watermelon.
[37:32]
Monet X Change
You like fried chicken?
[37:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
I love fried chicken.
[37:33]
Monet X Change
Have you ever feel worried about eating it?
[37:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, I have. Yeah.
[37:36]
Monet X Change
Where?
[37:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
Just like we were at pep show last night and there were these.
[37:42]
Monet X Change
This.
[37:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
Someone ordered some fried chicken. It was like chicken nuggets. Like these big chicken nuggets. Yeah. And pep, like grab. Pep did a bit where she was like, grabbed one off someone's plate and like ate it. And then she was like commenting on the fried chicken. And then you can see this moment where she was like, I am not about to. To talk about fried chicken in front of this room full of white people.
[38:00]
Monet X Change
I feel like you and I would double down on that.
[38:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
But it's out of defiance though. And, and I'm doubling down because I feel weird. So I'm doubling down because I'm Acknowledging that there's something weird, and I'm just leaning in.
[38:11]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[38:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what I mean? As opposed to literally not having any feelings about it.
[38:16]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[38:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, if you come to my house, Jacob's come to my house, and we have. Every time Jacob. Every time Jacob's coming to my house, we've had fried chicken at your house. What do you mean, to my mom's house?
[38:24]
Monet X Change
Oh, got it.
[38:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, either my uncle Steve cooks it or we order it from somewhere. Pretty much every time. That and wings. We always have wings, too. We love wings in my family. I don't know the wings are necessarily, like, a black thing, but we love.
[38:36]
Monet X Change
We like wings, too. We like wings, too.
[38:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
What kind of wings? We love buff. We like buffalo and lemon pepper.
[38:41]
Monet X Change
Oh, no, not wings. We do like. Like honey barbecue wings. Stuff like that. Oh, that makes sense. Not like, fried. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I mean, yeah. I mean, and. But we talked about this before.
[38:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, you like rape soda?
[38:54]
Monet X Change
Not particularly. I like orange soda.
[38:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think it's a Black American. Black American thing.
[38:59]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Yeah.
[38:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know.
[39:00]
Monet X Change
Are you African American? I'm West Indian American.
[39:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know.
[39:04]
Monet X Change
I'm just. Because my family is West Indian, but I was born in America.
[39:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
So you guys are African West Indian.
[39:08]
Monet X Change
I'm like, African American West Indian.
[39:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I think you're African West Indian. Because black people aren't indigenous to the West Indies. African West Indian something African is origin. And the second thing is where you're from. So African American origin, American from everybody from Africa.
[39:26]
Monet X Change
I think I'm West Indian American.
[39:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Okay. Not in the way that Shakira says we're all Africa. I mean, in the way that nigga,
[39:31]
Monet X Change
you and me, African and Jacob.
[39:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
Not like in that way. In West Indies. Are you African, West Indian?
[39:41]
Monet X Change
No, they don't say that. They just say West Indians do not have that.
[39:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
So what are the white people from the West Indies?
[39:45]
Monet X Change
They're West Indian.
[39:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
And y' all don't distinguish?
[39:49]
Monet X Change
No. I would say when I grow.
[39:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
So you're not ever. So, yeah, West Indian American. I am. I think it is an African American specifically grape soda. Specifically. Like, descendant of American chattel slavery. Specifically Southerner thing.
[40:02]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[40:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I don't know that New York black folks, like, known for eating fried chicken either. But, like, in the south, we.
[40:06]
Monet X Change
We do. Yeah. Yeah, but we talked about it, like,
[40:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
we did one of our stereotypes. It was a long time ago.
[40:12]
Monet X Change
It was a long time ago.
[40:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe we have changed our. Our plates on some of these things, too.
[40:17]
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm. You're right. I'm offended when I see eat fried chicken. I don't like to see you eat fried chicken.
[40:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I mean, how often do you see me eat fried chicken?
[40:24]
Monet X Change
Pretty often once a week.
[40:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
That is not true. I don't even think you see me eat once a week, bitch.
[40:32]
Monet X Change
On this podcast. I have.
[40:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, you're the eat. I literally one time leaned off camera to take one bite of something and Monet acts like I'm the bitch who eats. I think Jacob, normally, more than anything, Jacob probably sees me eat tacos a lot. Specifically Taco Bell. I eat a lot of Taco Bell.
[40:48]
Monet X Change
I've recently, like, in like the past two years, I've been on my. I've been in my Taco Bell bag.
[40:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I say the thing about Taco Bell is if you get the Doritos Locos, the three Doritos Locos and a Zero Baja Blast. Mountain Dew. Zero Baja Blast. It's only 500 calories.
[41:03]
Monet X Change
Let me tell you something. Zero. You know how I feel about zero.
[41:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
Shit. Oh, it's the new life.
[41:07]
Monet X Change
It has changed the game.
[41:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
And now I don't like, I had a. Me and Ezra went out last night to this. Oh my God. I did too. I went to the last night. Me and Ezra, like, we need to go somewhere because we haven't gone anywhere in a while and we don't go out anymore. I mean, honestly, we were like, we haven't gone out in a while. So we went to this comedy show called Accidental Chaos.
[41:30]
Monet X Change
Uh huh.
[41:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
It was. I mean, the name should have told me what I was getting myself into. It was absolute madness. Why the chaos? I don't think it was accidental. I think it was intentionally done. It was a room that seats comfortably about 10 people.
[41:44]
Monet X Change
Oh, wow.
[41:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's in an alley, like outside. No, you. You have to go down this alley. It's like a side door. You go down an alley. The entrance is like, no, that's.
[41:55]
Monet X Change
I'm being.
[41:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
But it look. But it kind of gives that vibe. It actually does give that vibe. And it's just like this very strange room is in Hollywood. And I was like, I kind of want to do something here a little bit because this room is wild. Like, you walk in and I was like, do you think you'd sell it out? Say again?
[42:16]
Monet X Change
You think you'd sell it out?
[42:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. To be honest, after. After not getting the Emmy nom, I've lost a lot of confidence. You walk in and they're like, hey, if it's your first time you get a free drink. And we were like, well, we don't drink. And he was like, okay, I'll say, well, can I just get one of those monsters? He was like, oh. And I was like, well, I just want a monster. And he's like, you know, I can give you a Coke. You want a Coke? And I was like, no, I want the monster. And he goes, we don't have monster. And I said, I can see them. I'm looking at them right there.
[42:45]
Monet X Change
There's a monster right there.
[42:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
And he goes like, oh, no, those are the owner's monsters. And I was like, well, he keeps them in the fridge, and I can't get one. I'll buy one. He goes, I cannot sell you. And then I take a step back, and there was like, a sign on the thing, and it's like a monster energy drink sign. It's like they're advertising, like, monsters. Anyway, long story short, I had a regular Coke last night, and it tastes so different. And I'm like, I don't even think I like these anymore.
[43:08]
Monet X Change
Right?
[43:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[43:09]
Monet X Change
Zero sugar. Zero Sugar Squirt and zero Sugar Ginger ale. The Zero Sugar Sprite. I'm not a big fan of, to be honest.
[43:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
I was a diet Dr. Pepper slaps.
[43:21]
Monet X Change
I don't like Dr. Pepper.
[43:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
Diet Sunkiss Slaps.
[43:24]
Monet X Change
You mean Sunkiss? No. Fanta. No. What's the orange one? Not Sunkiss. The other version.
[43:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
Fanta.
[43:31]
Monet X Change
No, not. Maybe it is Sunkiss. Zero sugar. Sun Kiss is everything.
[43:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
I haven't had zero sugar, but I have had Diet Sun Kiss. And it's absolutely.
[43:39]
Monet X Change
And it's zero calories. It's really great.
[43:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, it's not actually zero calories because I also drink zero calorie Gatorade. And here's the thing.
[43:46]
Monet X Change
Zero.
[43:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's great. Zero calorie Gatorade I use. When I was recently on We're Here, I was, like, walking around, like, doing. I mean, I was doing like 20,000. 25,000 steps a day. I don't know. I was really on my walking shit. I was wild with this. I was. I was about this walk in life. I was about this cardio, honey.
[44:04]
Monet X Change
Anyway, how many miles is 25,000 steps?
[44:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's about. I don't know. Jake, can you Google that? I think it's maybe like five miles maybe. So I would go. I would drink the zero calorie, zero sugar Gatorade. 12 miles. I would Google. I would not Google. I would. So one serving was zero calories, but three servings was 10 calories. So Mama was good.
[44:34]
Monet X Change
How many servings in the bottle? 3.
[44:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
So one serving is not zero calories. Where's the tea, honey? Like someone's lying to me.
[44:42]
Monet X Change
Well, one can of zero sugars ginger ale is zero calories.
[44:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
Is it, though? Yes, because three cans might be 10.
[44:48]
Monet X Change
Three cans is five calories.
[44:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
Then there's calories in one of those cans. Unless three cans is one calorie.
[44:56]
Monet X Change
So I mean, less than zero is what I'm saying.
[44:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
So maybe, like, it can't be less than zero. If three cans is five calories, that's more than one. One calorie per can.
[45:03]
Monet X Change
Oh, bitch. I don't know.
[45:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Unless all the calories are in one can.
[45:05]
Monet X Change
They can't lie.
[45:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
Unless all five of the calories are on the last sip of the third can. That means there's more than one calorie PER.
[45:12]
Monet X Change
Yeah, there's approximately 1.2 calories, but that's not zero. It's virtually zero.
[45:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to know how many fucking calories are in this fucking can of drink. In a can of coke. Zero. It says zero, but I know it's not zero. So when I saw this Gatorade discrepancy, I was like, I want to know what's good. Like, Miley, what's good? I feel like I've been bamboozled and a lie to you. I mean, I kept drinking it.
[45:41]
Monet X Change
Your journey with Pep reminded me of this thing. So back when. And this was back in January, Andy and I, What? Four months. Four months.
[45:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
The running canyon journey.
[45:47]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Or like four and five minutes in. Whatever. He's like, oh, I'm doing a work trip to Vegas. You want to come? I was like, sure, I'll go. My head.
[45:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, this is when you was. The little braids and you. And you did the long foot picture when you put your foot toward the camera so your foot looked like, huge, but you were leaning back and you had. The last one was your little blurry.
[46:03]
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[46:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Monet was in her blurry picture phase when they went through blurry picture phase. When they went through a phase where she would post a bunch of pictures and then the last picture would be blurry and she would act like she didn't intend for the last picture to be blurry. I went to the pit stop and I saw her try to intentionally get a blurry picture. Yes, you did. I was at the pit stop. I have ocular proof. I saw Monet and Patty taking pictures, and in the last one, Monet was trying to move and get a blurry picture. Yes, you were. Stop fronting. It wasn't accidentally. It wasn't kooky. It wasn't.
[46:37]
Monet X Change
It was. It was.
[46:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
It was calculated.
[46:39]
Monet X Change
Anyway, so we get to Vegas and it was a work trip for him. I had two days off and I. But I had to do that on one thing I got in drag, for which I got you to give in my live stream about you. When I was in a blue thing at that super thing, and everyone was like, monet, why are you being so banjo? I was like, cause Bob brings me there. Anyway.
[46:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God.
[46:55]
Monet X Change
So I was doing that thing and did that thing. And then he. You know, Andy does a lot of active stuff for it. They go like rock climbing and shit like that. So on like the second day that he does that whole day, he comes back to the hotel that night. He's like, what you doing tomorrow? I was like, I just have, like this one thing to do in the morning, but I'm like, I'm free. And he's like, okay, do you want to come on a hike? I was like, you know, I don't really like hikes. You know, that's not my thing. I don't like camping. Like, babe. He's like, it's just a little, like one to my hike. It's really fun. It's really simple. Like, you should come and do his last words. And I was like, well, I didn't bring any, like, hiking shoes. All I have my Doc Martens and toms. And he's like, just with the toms, like, it would be fine.
[47:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, not the Doc Martens were the smart choice, girl. Not the toms.
[47:32]
Monet X Change
Oh, watch me work. So we get to the trail, Bob. It is in the. It is in the desert in Las Vegas, right? We start traversing. We start doing this hike. The hike ended up being about 7.5 miles walking through the pebbles and sand. At halfway through the hike, we start to. I'm not over exaggerating. We start traversing up Bob, like a clay thing. Like when you are, like, trying what you do, like little spigots to, like, get off the thing, right? And I'm in this moment. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to fucking kill this guy up in my boozle, girl. So then we hike in this thing and he's looking back at me like. Cause he knows I'm, like, pissed off, right? And then we start hiking. We go to this water thing.
[48:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Then we have one of the full drag. So blue wig.
[48:18]
Monet X Change
I might have my tom zone. Then we have to Climb up this metal ladder about like maybe about 20ft up. Climb up this ladder, go into this hot spring. We are in waist deep water.
[48:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's not true.
[48:32]
Monet X Change
I swear to God, I swear on my life. We're in waist deep water and I'm
[48:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
sitting there like wading in the water, waiting the water.
[48:43]
Monet X Change
And then every time you. And then every time you go into. Because you had to go through this hot spring to get out the other side. So every time you go in a different part, the water's getting higher and higher. So it started out at knees, went to like my hip, then went to.
[48:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
What are you thinking when you submerge your entire feet in the. How far had you gone? Like how many minutes do you think by the time you reached the water, by the water?
[49:01]
Monet X Change
This was. We were probably about two and a half hours into the hike.
[49:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, cuz, if it would have been anything less than 20 minutes, I'm turning around.
[49:06]
Monet X Change
No, I, I, I, I couldn't go
[49:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
back cuz you're closer to the end.
[49:09]
Monet X Change
Closer to the end.
[49:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that's so Bob.
[49:11]
Monet X Change
When I tell you, call me a
[49:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Uber chop, Uber Chopper, Uber Blade, come
[49:15]
Monet X Change
and pick me up, girl. And I, so I am way sleeping water. And, and, and, and he's just like. And then we get on the other fucking side. It's another like 2 mile hike to the van. Fuck. When I tell you. I was so heated, he was like, I thought you were gonna break up with me. I was like, bitch, I wanted to heated.
[49:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
You were wet and cool. That's wild.
[49:36]
Monet X Change
This is typical Andy. He just does crazy shit like this and I was so mad.
[49:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
Did he know there was gonna be water in there?
[49:41]
Monet X Change
He knew there was gonna be a little water. He was like, he was like, he's
[49:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
like, he's like, you know, your feet
[49:45]
Monet X Change
might get like a little wet, but like it'll be okay.
[49:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
In his adventure, feet did get a little wet.
[49:49]
Monet X Change
A little.
[49:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
He's submerged in water. I mean it went past a little. But there was a point where if
[49:53]
Monet X Change
he got a little wet, I was so mad.
[49:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's like when someone gives you dogs. Like technically you have one cent.
[49:58]
Monet X Change
Technically. And it is me and all these white folk and you know, this sober people. So they're all trading stories about like sober and stuff, which is beautiful.
[50:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
And then still love them. They're sober.
[50:07]
Monet X Change
And Andy's like, do you want to take off your clothes and get in the hot spring? And I look at this nigga, I'm
[50:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
like, no, I don't like naked Naked?
[50:11]
Monet X Change
No, like, just to get down to, like, your underwear or something. I was like, no, I don't want to take off my clothes and get in the hot spring.
[50:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
Did he get in the hot spring?
[50:20]
Monet X Change
Of course he did.
[50:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
Your black ass just sitting at the side while a bunch of white folks sitting in the hot spring. Your black asses on the corner looking wet, ballheaded, confused, and wet and bad as hell. What is it? I'm wet, I'm playing. I'm wet, I'm scared. I'm just. What is it? I'm wet, I'm cold, and I'm just playing scared or some shit.
[50:34]
Monet X Change
All of these four white foliars in the water. Like, who could. I'm sitting there, like, on the side, just angry.
[50:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Girl, that is wild. I am not a. A naturey type. I don't love that. And.
[50:49]
Monet X Change
And people get so mad when you're not. They're like, but just try. Like, I don't want to try. I'm not interested.
[50:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Also, it's not like I've never been in nature. I didn't just land on planet earth today. I'm 36 years old. I've been in nature before. I don't. I used to live in the woods. Damn. I used to live in Phoenix City, Alabama, in the woods. Honey, I'm good on nature.
[51:09]
Monet X Change
No desire to be in nature. Would you ever go camping?
[51:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't want to. Me either, but I mean, under certain circumstances. I mean, last time I went camping was probably 15, 14 years ago. When I first got sober, I went. I. I got sober on a camping trip.
[51:23]
Monet X Change
Oh, really?
[51:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[51:24]
Monet X Change
So you were, like, detoxing on the. On this thing?
[51:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
It wasn't. I didn't have, like, delirium, tremors or anything. Booze. Yeah. But. But. But I did quit drinking on a. On a camping trip. That was my last time I ever went camping. And I do not think I'll be returning to the great wild. I was in the Big Basin State park in California.
[51:43]
Monet X Change
Ezra likes camping, right? It likes nature.
[51:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, he likes nature. I don't know if he's, like, into camping. I think he probably would be any camping. Like, when we went to Mexico, he was, like, trying to get me to go to this. Like, it was like this, like. Like a creek, but like, not a creek, but like this, like this place where everyone just, like, jumps in the water. And I went. And I was like, it's like bugs
[52:10]
Monet X Change
in the water, right? Like, I'm like, no, I hate that.
[52:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm like, I don't Want to. I don't want to jump in there. Like, this is not.
[52:18]
Monet X Change
And this is the thing. People like, just try it. I'm like, I don't want to get in the fucking water.
[52:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
The worst is when you're the person who's like, they. They've beat you down so bad that you've agreed to roll your pants up and stick your feet in the edge of the pool. And you just like, geez, I'll put my feet in. Why do y' all want us in the water so bad? Like, y' all who love water. Why do I want people to get join you in the water so bad? I don't think I'll ever understand that. They need you in that water, girl.
[52:44]
Monet X Change
Like they need their last breath.
[52:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
Just come on. Come in, get in, get in.
[52:52]
Monet X Change
Okay. Maybe you and I. Okay.
[52:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
We're in a bathing suit. Let's get her bathing suit.
[52:56]
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. We will offer your bathing suit. This is Todrick.
[52:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
They're a size one. I'll bring you a bathing suit.
[53:01]
Monet X Change
Spilling out of their bathing suit, looking crazy.
[53:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm like, this is what they bring you. They bring Naomi Smalls wears his bathing suit. You can see it with Monet. It is a black bathing suit. And the. The side, there's no fabric. It's just hardware connecting to more hardware. Am I describing it? Well, it's like imagine a Speedo, a black Speedo, but then on the side where there would be fabric, there isn't any fabric.
[53:25]
Monet X Change
Yeah, it's like a metal.
[53:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's like a carabiner.
[53:27]
Monet X Change
Yeah. So it's a. It's a very n. Expensive bathing suit.
[53:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
It is very skanky. Yeah, those be the kind of be like, I have a suit for you. No, you don't. Not for me. You have a suit for you. For you.
[53:40]
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. Maybe S R should go on a camping trip.
[53:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Last time I tied your house, I chipped my tooth for the trying to get into the pool.
[53:48]
Monet X Change
You were going to go in the water.
[53:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
I was headed to the pool and I chipped my tooth.
[53:51]
Monet X Change
Damn. So you're. You're done.
[53:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
He invited me over. Reason I'm coming. Hell to hell to the no, no, no to the. No, no, no.
[54:00]
Monet X Change
I like. You're gonna look very 90s with your little look today.
[54:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
This is Urban Outfitters.
[54:05]
Monet X Change
Is it the hat, too?
[54:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, the hat is from the store that I like to shop at downtown. In. In dtla.
[54:13]
Monet X Change
Dtla. Just say downtown. Just say downtown.
[54:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
What do they think I'm talking about? Downtown New York. I travel a lot. You literally. I like to shop down. I actually don't shop down. I like to shop in midtown.
[54:23]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[54:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
In New York.
[54:25]
Monet X Change
In New York City.
[54:26]
Shannon Maldonado
So.
[54:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
But when I say midtown, I say midtown New York or midtown Manhattan or Mima.
[54:31]
Monet X Change
This is not calling Meema Mima. Don't you dare call Meema Mima. When people call it Noha, I'm like, the noma is not a thing.
[54:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
No ha.
[54:39]
Monet X Change
Or Noho.
[54:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
Noha Mima.
[54:41]
Monet X Change
It's only Soho. There's no fucking Noho.
[54:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Weha. What's Harlem? Weha.
[54:47]
Monet X Change
Weha.
[54:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
No ha.
[54:49]
Monet X Change
No Soha.
[54:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
Wahee.
[54:54]
Monet X Change
What's that?
[54:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Washington Heights. Hey, that was the Wahee diner.
[55:00]
Monet X Change
Why? How's. How is Nicholas Smith doing? I haven't heard from him in a couple years. Is he dead?
[55:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
I talk to Nick almost every day. And we had a real good kiki
[55:08]
Monet X Change
yesterday about what you want to share with the clients.
[55:11]
Bob the Drag Queen
We were just talking about what we've been up to work and gossiping about our friends.
[55:16]
Monet X Change
Want to share with the class?
[55:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I do not care. I want. I will not. I will not. What is Yolanda Salzar? Say who? Yolanda Salazar has a interview where she goes, I will not comment on that. I will not be answering that question. Like there's some interview where they're interviewing Yolanda Salazar and she keeps going, I will not be answering that question.
[55:33]
Monet X Change
Should we do like a. Should we do like a stunt about not getting nominated for the Emmys? She and I get butt naked and walk down and get in the pool.
[55:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, wait, sorry. In the hot spring.
[55:46]
Monet X Change
Should we do a stunt?
[55:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
No. I think that I would like to accept my lack of nomination with grace and dignity and move on. I am a little bit sad about it.
[55:56]
Monet X Change
Yeah. I would've loved to be nominated.
[55:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think for me, it's really sad because the show that I'm on was nominated in this category before, and I wasn't nominated. And I was like, this is my chance to be an Emmy nominated person. But also, I think it avoids a heartbreak down the line because clearly, if you weren't nominated, you're definitely not gonna
[56:18]
Monet X Change
win
[56:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
to be nominated. You definitely can't get enough votes to win.
[56:24]
Monet X Change
Quinta Brunson, she, like, broke records today. She's the first person. Three Emmys for black. First black woman.
[56:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
First black woman.
[56:30]
Monet X Change
Yeah. To get three Emmys in one. Three nominations in one thingy.
[56:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
And Nicole Byer got a lot of nominations too, though. Nicole Barr got nailed it. And she hosts. I think she got two nominations.
[56:41]
Monet X Change
Okay.
[56:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
For best host and she got nominated for. Nailed it.
[56:44]
Monet X Change
I love Nicole Byer. Nicole Byer. No matter how huge her star is, she's always so chill and so cool and so down to earth every time.
[56:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
She's one of those people that you will see that you just see everywhere.
[56:57]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[56:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
A poster, a billboard, an ad, something of Nicole Byers always, always popping up. Nicole Byer is also very good at decorating. Do you know this?
[57:08]
Monet X Change
No.
[57:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
She's really good at decorating. And my friend. You ever met my friend Darren Bluestone? Darren is also one of those folks who just, like. Who's just naturally.
[57:16]
Monet X Change
I mean, how you know that she's good at decorating? Did you see her place?
[57:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I've seen pictures of her place. She showed me pictures when we had brunch. Me, her, and Sasheer. And then she came over here and she was like, have you thought about this and this? And I was like, oh, my God, these are all brilliant ideas. I could never execute them all because they're just. She was saying them so fast. I was forgetting them as she was saying them. And some of them just seemed like massive undertakings where I would. I would, like, have, like, a bathroom with, like, a weird light fixture, and I would just leave that light fixture until I would. I would just never change it. I would just be like, I would never think, I don't really care for this light fixture. I should change it.
[57:47]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[57:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
And she was like, oh, yeah. If you just switch this and get this, and you can do it yourself, but you can also have someone in it. And a task grab will do that for, like, $35. And then you can then, of course, if you just. It's easier than you think. And then, of course, you know, contact wall, you got to use contact paper. But if you use wallpaper here, you want to use wallpaper here, because this actually, this. This color is really good. You don't want to mess it up, but you have to get the wallpaper that doesn't mess up your pain. Like, this is too much.
[58:08]
Monet X Change
I love. I love Nicole Byer. Nicholas Byer. Nicola Byer. Nicola. Nicola. Nigga. Nicola. Nigga.
[58:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
I. I feel like we. This. This is our first time not. We haven't had a topic in our podcast in a minute, and I like it.
[58:31]
Monet X Change
I like this freeform. This is. This reminds me of vintage sibling rivalry
[58:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
and I might think topics back in the day. Didn't we at the beginning.
[58:40]
Monet X Change
Yeah, we do you know.
[58:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you remember that? Do you know the name of our very first podcast? Do you know the name of it.
[58:44]
Monet X Change
The one about a podcast.
[58:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's called I don't like hugs.
[58:49]
Monet X Change
Is it?
[58:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
I've been about this life for four years.
[58:55]
Monet X Change
Well, it's really interesting to me that you brag about not like to give hugs.
[58:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no. I advertise it, so. And I want the word to get out because people like to give hugs without permission. So I just really like to promote it so that everyone knows I don't like hugs. I say it a lot because I don't want to give hugs to people.
[59:10]
Monet X Change
I will say in denying a hug
[59:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
in the moment, it can be very awkward.
[59:13]
Monet X Change
I will say, though, with the money box and everything, I am. I do because Covid, you know, a lot of people vaccinated covet is like, where it's at now. And people feel so much more comfortable with hugging. So people and see on public, they. They run. They run to you with a hug. And I'm literally like, no. So I. There's something to advertising and letting people know that that's not what you like. I will. I will concede that that is a very smart.
[59:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
You want to give my apology now that you promise you give me how much time? How much time do you want to have to give me an apology?
[59:42]
Shannon Maldonado
As much time.
[59:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
That what that means. That means we are out of time.
[59:46]
Monet X Change
And you.
[59:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
We are. We've been recording for 56 minutes. You have four minutes to give. You have four minutes to give me an apology that you. That you said you'd give.
[59:55]
Monet X Change
Okay, I have four minutes. Why is. Why is that apology so important to you?
[60:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I want it. Is that why I want to rewind yesterday?
[60:04]
Monet X Change
So Bob and I, we did a little press junket for our upcoming tour. And the Bob that I experienced in that press junket is not who is sitting here today. The person yesterday was sweet, kind.
[60:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
I was putting on grace.
[60:17]
Monet X Change
I was phony, respectful.
[60:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
I was faking it.
[60:20]
Monet X Change
And this person, it was for the press.
[60:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
It was for the coverage.
[60:24]
Monet X Change
This is exactly who I'm. This is the Bob from season. From episode three, season eight of RuPaul's Drag Race. That's the Bob I'm looking at now. The Bob that bullied Derek Barrick. Pretty much Barrick.
[60:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm the Colleen of this podcast. And you're the potato. You better sit there shivering, shaking and shaking us out.
[60:43]
Monet X Change
Arcific over here. Arc can never remember potato's name. She's like Biscuit. Is she like Biscuit?
[60:49]
Bob the Drag Queen
Mayonnaise, Hot dog.
[60:50]
Monet X Change
Mayonnaise. Come here, Mayonnaise. They're seeing down she Comes a lot. She's dating someone who lives in la.
[60:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
How come I ain't seen her?
[60:58]
Monet X Change
See who? They're a patron.
[61:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like this is giving too
[61:03]
Monet X Change
much of their information. I didn't say we have over.
[61:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
We have, like, over 15,000 less for their social.
[61:11]
Monet X Change
But the funny thing is that. So RC and this person. So when I see this here, back in January, they. They met up on Hinge. They want to. Well, they DM'd on hinge. And RC was saying, by me. So then later that day, RC is like, I met this girl, and I want her to. Is it.
[61:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
She's dating a woman.
[61:30]
Monet X Change
Yeah. And she's like, is she a gay? Yeah.
[61:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
Is this a plot twist?
[61:38]
Monet X Change
What do you mean? Arcia.
[61:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
This is a plot twist.
[61:41]
Monet X Change
Arcia has started dating women, but this
[61:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
is a plot twist. This is not, like, been the whole time. Yeah, okay. I was like, wait, whoa, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, baby. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, baby. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[61:53]
Monet X Change
So that she's like. Can you imagine? She, like, comes here for a second. I was like, sure. Like, that's fine. And then cut to. They come to my house, and they have, like, this little, like, moment, like they're having their first date in my living room or whatever, and I'm, like, doing stuff on the computer, and I got to find out when RC Left the next day. She flew like a Patreon, and she's, like, a fan of ours. And she was like. She had no idea who I was. So she came into my house, seeing me like, I'm like, hey, girl, how you doing? And she.
[62:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, imagine if. Imagine if. If you went to go visit. You went to go visit, like, Andrew somewhere. He was like, yeah, I'm at my friend's place. I'm staying with a friend. And you walk in, it's just Robin, Rihanna, Fenty.
[62:32]
Monet X Change
Exactly.
[62:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
She's like, welcome. You're typing over here. Go on to mind me.
[62:41]
Monet X Change
Anyways, so I was like, so she
[62:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
does have an accent.
[62:45]
Monet X Change
She does
[62:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
this podcast just say in Monet what we were doing. Yeah, this meeting for the. For the tour. And
[62:58]
Monet X Change
what.
[62:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
Monae was trying to do something and.
[63:02]
Monet X Change
Oh, God.
[63:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
And she was like. We were trying to. We were trying to coach Monet through how to use the.
[63:07]
Monet X Change
Okay, not coaching. Google Meet is. Is not the best platform. So then I logged in.
[63:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone else knew how to use this up.
[63:14]
Monet X Change
They couldn't hear me.
[63:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone else knows how to use up online. And then Monet was like, what is down there? She goes down there by the gears, and me and Me and Marvin were like, okay.
[63:28]
Monet X Change
Bob egged it on and Marvin. Which is making Marvin laugh. Marvin wasn't like, oh my God, I heard a single. I said. And Bob was like, monet not busting out with the Jamaican. Marvin is real Jamaican. That's why Marvin was laughing.
[63:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
Because Marvin is. Marvin are the. He's.
[63:42]
Monet X Change
He's from.
[63:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
He's from the uk, but his folks are Jamaican.
[63:46]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[63:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
And. And Monet busted out with the patois yesterday. Girl, Mon said down about the gears.
[63:52]
Monet X Change
Girl, I did not. Anyway.
[63:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you think you said gears with a little bit of Caribbean accent?
[63:57]
Monet X Change
I maybe said I, but okay. Also. So when is my accent convenient for you?
[64:01]
Bob the Drag Queen
When I did it. I have always said you have a Caribbean. I have never not said you don't.
[64:06]
Monet X Change
Jake, about the video, you said, uhuh. Mon don't talk like that. Mon quitting on.
[64:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh no, you okay. It's like I have a little bit of a southern twang, but. But it'd be like if I went from this to talking like eureka. If I was like, girl, I don't even know y', all. Which is like white South. I would never talk like a white Southern person. Girl, I don't. Y'.
[64:21]
Shannon Maldonado
All.
[64:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't even know y'.
[64:22]
Shannon Maldonado
All.
[64:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's that said Paula Dean white Southerner talk. But I have a. I have a slight little bit of Southern twang in my voice versus sounding like Justin Caldwell or my mother. Yeah, man, you were robbing Rihanna fenty on that call yesterday.
[64:39]
Monet X Change
It's my queen. Have you seen any of my entrance look for All Stars 7? They were like, I walked in and this goes. What did I say? What's my line? It looks like the exchange. It's like. Looks like no Monet changes, but they overdubbed it with as sweet as St. Lucia. I forgot what it is.
[64:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
So you just walk in and go, it looks like it is as sweet. Sweet essay.
[65:00]
Monet X Change
Something like that. It's very funny.
[65:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Whoever did it, we've had our four minutes up. Can I get my apology, please?
[65:04]
Monet X Change
I apologize to you if your feelings were hurt when I said not an apology. And I don't accept.
[65:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you so much for coming out. We'll see you on the next episode of S Rivalry.
[65:25]
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