The One About Monet's Panties

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Monet’s Panties" (January 19, 2026)

Main Theme & Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry, hosted by Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen, is a raucous, freewheeling conversation covering everything from sexual slang, drag queen fashion mishaps, queer identity, and their childhood hustles to debates about podcast awards. The chemistry between Bob and Monét is at its peak: personal, teasing, often raunchy, and hilarious. The title theme—Monét’s infamous panties—anchors a broader reflection on unapologetic self-expression, but the episode also includes debates about sex work, the meaning of "gooning," and the ever-shifting boundaries of drag and queerness.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Sibling "Segway-re": The New Game (03:01–15:30)

• Jacob introduces Sibling Segue-re, a game where Bob and Monét must stealthily transition to a given topic in the first 15 minutes without being detected by their cohost.
• Both are competitive; Bob teases Monet for "not listening," and they argue over who transitioned to their topic more skillfully.
• Quote:
  "I did mine three minutes ago. You didn’t even clock it." – Bob (15:09)
• Timestamps:
  • Game explanation: 03:12
  • Topic reveal: 03:42
  • Bob’s transition to "the ocean is unexplored": 14:46
  • Reveal: 24:32

2. Porn Awards, Sexual Identities, and Squirting (04:04–13:49)

• Adult Content Talk: Monét expresses interest in the AVN (Adult Video Network) Awards, sparking a deep-dive into the porn industry, Bob's experience roasting porn stars, and a tangent about squirting.
• "Squirting" explained: Bob recounts a porn star, Bunny Rotten, saying it’s "mostly pee" and how the ability to squirt is as much physical as it is about preparation.
• Quote:
  "She’s known for her squirting… When I squirt, it is just pissing on people." – Bob (05:38)
• Discussion of Sex Work: Monét draws a sharp line between thirst-trapping and being a porn star. Bob challenges her, suggesting OnlyFans blurs those lines.
• Stats and Identity: Bob claims, "straight guys watch gay porn," citing stats about queer porn searches, while Monét probes, "can you be straight if gay porn turns you on?"
• Bob’s Philosophy:
  "My hot take is: there are no straight people. Straight people do not exist. Cis people do not exist. Everyone’s on the spectrum." – Bob (09:27)

3. Award Shows & Drag, RuPaul's Gender Philosophy (13:49–15:14)

• Bob and Monét interpret RuPaul’s “We’re all born naked and the rest is drag”:
  • Monét sees it as an allusion to gender and identity as performance.
  • Bob argues it’s about outward presentation, not intrinsic identity.

4. Party Gossip, "Gooning," and Generational Gaps (16:12–21:23)

• Party Tea: Monét describes his recent party, noting Bob and Jacob weren't invited—cue playful shade.
• New Slang – “Gooning”: Monét thinks "gooning" means drunken silliness, but Bob defines it as masturbating to the point of "losing your mind," schooling Monét on sexual slang.
  • Quote:
    "Gooning is when you masturbate for so long that you lose your mind and you start making these, like, crazy faces." – Bob (16:35)
  • Monét: “That is not what gooning is!”
  • Bob: “That’s absolutely what it is.”
• Edging: Both agree edging is not for them, likening it to “being tortured” or “taking too long.”
  • Quote:
    "If I edge too many times, it's gone… I'll never get it back." – Bob (20:55)

5. Childhood, Voicemail Nostalgia, and Gen Z/Alpha Differences (26:58–32:55)

• Voicemails: The hosts revisit a poll about voicemail use, with 68% of listeners claiming they still check theirs. Bob recalls his perpetually full mailbox.
• Cell Phones Back in the Day: A nostalgic, hilarious breakdown of “nights and weekends,” rollover minutes, and when they first got cell phones.
  • Monét: Sixth grade with a Kyocera/Virgin Mobile; Bob: "not until college."
  • Monet describes urban kid necessity ("for emergencies") vs. Bob mowing lawns at 9.

6. Childhood Hustles & Class Clowning (33:10–43:51)

• Money Lessons: Monét describes “earning” money with extra chores; Bob mowed grass (because his brother had allergies). They compare yard sizes, city vs. suburbs.
• Candy Lady Era: Bob’s full breakdown of inventively running a candy store from the family entertainment center, including setting up shop at barbershops. Monet is amazed that Mama Caldwell would move the living room TV for Bob’s business.
  • Quote:
    "We took the TV out of the entertainment center—my candy business needed the space!" – Bob (39:04)
  • Bob’s company: Tight Bites.
• Family Dynamics: Bob’s mom (“Ms. Martha Caldwell”) worked all of brother Justin’s Taco Bell shifts to keep an eye on him, which Bob would have loved and Monét would have hated.

7. Advice, Independence, and Friendship Dynamics (45:00–48:43)

• Reality Shows: Bob explains why he didn’t give Monét advice for “The Traitors” and contrasts it with their earlier Drag Race era:
  • Quote:
    "Monét likes to know that she did it by herself—without my help. She’s fiercely independent." – Bob (45:16)
  • Monét says she listens to 90% of Bob’s content, but “there’s nothing new you could offer me I didn’t know.”
• Game of Luck: They debate reality show winning strategies (skill vs. luck), with Bob playfully roasting Dylan Efron for being "just lucky."

8. Podcasting Awards & Industry Chatter (51:39–56:01)

• The duo discuss the Golden Globes’ new "Best Podcast" category ("Up First" is Bob’s pick).
• Both reflect on the podcast industry’s growth and fame, comparing early podcast days to now.
• Award Shows as Fiascos: Bob and Monét crack up about the absurdity of "Beyoncé competing against drag queens" at LGBTQ+ awards.

9. Fashion Mishaps: The Panties Story and Styling Wars (57:56–62:50)

• "Monét’s Panties" Origin Story: Bob gleefully recalls Monét’s leotard and panties onstage mishap. Instead of being embarrassed, Monét owned it and wore the look to several shows.
  • Quote:
    "Monét, your panties are showing." — "I meant to do that, and I like it." – Bob retelling (59:42)
• Monét's Style Choices: More playful feud: Taylor, Monét’s stylist, tries to push Monét on socks-with-loafers. Monét refuses onscreen but (Bob suspects) capitulates offscreen.
• Boots vs. Flats & Drag Fashion: The two debate Mary Janes, boots for "pop girlies," and fitting into evolving drag trends.

10. Drag Race Ages, Generational Shade, and Charlie Hides Drama (63:02–66:24)

• Drag Age Tiers: When does a "Ru girl" become a "woman of a certain age"? They joke about Bianca Del Rio, Charlie Hides, and the elusive drag fountain of youth.
• Controversy: Bob discusses the Laquisha Jones/blackface drama with Charlie Hides, reading an unapologetic Instagram DM.
  • Quote:
    "She just stopped painting herself black, but she was still doing [the character]." – Bob (66:15)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You should not create the kind of content you don't want to watch." – Bob (07:48)
• "My hot take is: there are no straight people. Straight people do not exist. Cis people do not exist." – Bob (09:27)
• "No, you don't get paid for chores, you just do them!" – Bob (33:35)
• "I did mine three minutes ago. You didn’t even clock it." – Bob (15:09)
• "Monét, your panties are showing." — "I meant to do that, and I like it." – Bob retelling (59:42)
• "There's nothing new you could offer me that I don't know." – Monet (47:17)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:01 | "Sibling Segway-re" game explanation | | 04:04 | Porn awards, AVN, and sex work debate | | 06:30 | Squirting, porn stats, queer porn discussion | | 09:27 | Bob’s philosophy: No "real" straight/cis people | | 13:49 | RuPaul's gender/drag philosophy | | 16:12 | Monét's party, "gooning," and slang mishaps | | 20:46 | Edging and sexual preferences | | 26:58 | Voicemail nostalgia, phone plans, and generational tales | | 33:10 | Childhood chores & earning cash, city vs. suburb upbringings | | 39:04 | Bob’s “Tight Bites” childhood business story | | 45:16 | Advice, independence, and friendship dynamics | | 51:39 | Podcasting industry & awards | | 57:56 | The origin of "Monét’s Panties" | | 63:02 | Drag Race age shade and Charlie Hides drama |

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Conclusion

This episode is quintessential Sibling Rivalry: irreverent, intimate, campy, and self-aware. Bob and Monét’s friendship is the heart—evidenced in teasing competitions, vulnerable confessions, and stories of turning embarrassment (like showing panties onstage) into signature style. The listener comes away reminded that drag—like the podcast—is about the joy of flaunting your weirdness, claiming your story (and your "panties" moments), and laughing through every shade thrown your way.

Transcript

[Narrator/Announcer]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Narrator/Announcer]

Agents and a shadowy billionaire who will stop at nothing to protect his empire from executive producer Ryan Murphy. FX's the Beauty premieres January 21st on FX, Hulu and Hulu on Disney for bundled subscribers. For the first time ever, there's been a truly beautiful medical breakthrough. One shot makes you hot, but with terrifying consequences. In the new original series F the Beauty, the glamorous world of supermodels turns.

[Monet X Change]

Deadly as mysterious deaths draw in FBI.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Agents and a shadowy billionaire who will stop at nothing to protect his empire from executive producer Ryan Murphy. FX's the Beauty premieres January 21 on FX, on Hulu and Hulu on Disney for bundle subscribers. For the first time ever, there's been a truly beautiful medical breakthrough. One shot makes you hot, but with terrifying consequences. In the new original series F the Beauty, the glamorous world of supermodels turns.

[Monet X Change]

Deadly as mysterious deaths draw in FBI.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Agents and a shadowy billionaire who will stop at nothing to protect his empire from executive producer Ryan Murphy. FX's the Beauty premieres January 21st on FX, Hulu and Hulu on Disney for bundle subscribers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Narrator/Announcer]

And I'm Monet x Change and this is simply rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On this week's episode, Monet discovers what gooning is.

[Monet X Change]

We talk about my panties and we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Find out what made Monae say this.

[Monet X Change]

What new information do you think you could have offered me that? I don't know. And we find out what made Bob.

[Narrator/Announcer]

The Drag Queen say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think you squirt or you don't squirt.

[Monet X Change]

Put your wig down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wig.

[Jacob]

Here's my pitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who got a wig?

[Monet X Change]

You pull your wig down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is an age appropriate hairline.

[Monet X Change]

The wig is in the back of your head.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's an age appropriate hairline.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, well, keep it. You know I know it's not a little further back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pull your wig. Pull the back.

[Monet X Change]

Let's talk about before the surgery. Where was that? Where's yours?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Appropriate. Where's yours?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I'm bald nigger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Look at you. Scared Jacob on that one. Jacob did a double D. Enough about what you and Jacob doing the bedroom. According to the people on Twitter.

[Jacob]

What are you doing in the second.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what do you do in the bedroom? What do you.

[Monet X Change]

We pray. We pray.

[Jacob]

So I Want to try a new segment I call Sibling Segue Re. Where I text to each a different topic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have my phone.

[Jacob]

Okay, well I can just show you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, Google. No. Hey, Google, where's my Google Pixel?

[Jacob]

Within the first 15 minutes of the episode, you need to transition to talking about this topic that I.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, wait, let's get Bob's phone. Jacob. Now, Jacob, you say your thing.

[Jacob]

Okay, so you have 15 minutes. In the first 15 minutes of the episode, I'm gonna give you a topic and you have to seamlessly transition the conversation to that topic without your co host figuring it out.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. And you're going to tell us when the 15 minutes or is there a timer or.

[Jacob]

Yeah, I'm going to start the time. I'm texting you Monet. That's your topic. And then Bob, seamless transition.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know who is crazy talented? Andrew Barrett Cox.

[Jacob]

Gentasy.

[Monet X Change]

He did that song. There you go.

[Jacob]

Okay, you got your topics.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Timer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe. And go.

[Monet X Change]

Do you know what I want to do? I want to go to the AVN Awards. The straight one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The avn. I don't even know what that is. Audio Visual Network Awards.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. They're porn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, porn awards.

[Monet X Change]

But they're called the avn. I don't know what AVN stands for though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Adult Video.

[Monet X Change]

Do you know the Adult Visionary Awards.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what does the N stand for?

[Monet X Change]

Visionary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think the Adult Video Network Awards is what I think Avian stands for, if I had to guess.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I've.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I've done some stuff with browsers.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, have you really?

[Narrator/Announcer]

Like a scene.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did a Brazer's roast a couple years ago. Maybe like, geez, eight years ago. And it was a. It was comedians and porn stars all roasting together.

[Monet X Change]

How about the porn stars?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, they were not particularly funny, but their sets were written for them. And I met this porn actor named Bonnie Rotten. She's the one that stuck out in my mind. Bonnie Rotten. Bunny. Bunny. Like a bunny rabbit.

[Monet X Change]

But why? You said. Why are you saying Bonnie?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I was accent. Oh, like I saw, like I saw a little Bonnie.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, before you said like Bonnie and Clyde.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then I realized that you thought I was saying Bonnie because Bonnie is a name. But I'm saying bunny.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, bunny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like a bunny rabbit. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

How would you say if you were not trying to do it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was like a little. A little bunny rabbit. Yeah. But anyway, she was pretty, like nutty. Interesting. And then she taught me about. About squirting.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. Which is some. Is Some fury, she said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She said it's mostly pee. She goes. Because she's known for her squirting.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she goes, when I squirt, it is. I am just pissing on people.

[Monet X Change]

How far does Bunny go when she's pissing? Like when she's. No squirting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I haven't watched her content, but she's known for squirting. I. I didn't do any research, to be honest, but Bunny Rotten is known for her squirting. And she's like, I just chug a lot of water. Chug a lot of water. Like, I just drink all water. So it's like. It has no scent and it's like pretty clear.

[Monet X Change]

So if you're not a water girly, you can. You can squirt. And it'd be like. It's like, Pete, like you yellow. Yellow pee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I'm not sure what I think, Bonnie, because she's asked to squirt on demand. She's like, I gotta get my. I gotta get it up there.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean? So anyone with a vagina, if they drink a lot of water, they can squirt too. Because it seems like what I. It seems like what I've seen, you know, the discourse on Twitter and stuff. People talk about squirting and different podcasts, whatever. It seems like you can't pick or choose your squirtation. It just happens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I think you squirt or you don't squirt.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. But if you are a squirter, the more water you drink, the likely it is you would squirt and it'd be the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, do you make your people you hooked up with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hooked up with squirters.

[Monet X Change]

And do you enjoy that or do you not like it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is cool. It is what it is. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

It's nice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It feels affirming. It's like, wow, I did a really good job here. It's like, wow, I really turned the game.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really turned the party there.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So do you want to present there? Do you want to get into pornography?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't know what to get into. Pornography. Why not? I'm not interested in you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're basically posting on your.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's different than having a business selling my body. Like posting a thirst trap here and there is different than being a porn star. I'm not interested in being a porn star.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How's what you're doing different than porn?

[Monet X Change]

Because I am not having Sex on camera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not all porn stars have sex on camera.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but that's the pornography I'm talking about having go to the Avian Awards. I'm assuming. I think they're all video people doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like porn because most, most onlyfans people are doing solo content. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But sometimes a lot of his video, like all the solo content. I see. Onlyfans are people. Guys masturbating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We said having sex on camera. Masturbate's not having sex.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, okay. Diddling myself on camera. Diddling myself or fucking someone else or someone fucking me. Not interested. I mean I could say to onlyfans and me just showing like basically posting the thirst chapters. I do. But I think that seems boring and I'm like not interested in that either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I firmly believe that you should not create the kind of content you don't want to watch.

[Monet X Change]

Right. No, I don't agree with that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really. I feel like if you're making content you wouldn't watch, I can tell that you would never watch this. I can tell you're not into it. And I mean sometimes I can't tell because some people are really good actors.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. What to say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm just like, if you. I don't want to consume something. I mean me personally, I don't make content that I wouldn't watch. And I'm like, I just. I don't know. Something about it lacks a lot of it. It's like you're doing. So it's just for money.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean you have. I think that you have a lot of gay for pay actors. Guys who, who they don't. They don't like dick, they don't like booty holes. But they'll do it on camera to make money. And they, they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Straight guys do watch porn. Gay porn. Straight guys. A lot of straight guys watch gay porn.

[Monet X Change]

A lot of you saying a lot of short guys watch gay porn. How do you know this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, this is the statistics prove it. The number one search.

[Monet X Change]

We can't see your screen, by the way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The number one search porn in the world. Queer porn in general. The number one search porn in the world is I want to say trans porn. Like trans women in pornography. And then I want to say number two is lesbian porn. I think. And then also, for example, I think that there's a statistic out there or something. I don't know the numbers exactly, but like a lot of. A lot of lesbians watch gay porn.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. But go back to Jacob. Can you see if you can find out some breakdown on this. Like the number one types of porn watched. So gay. So straight guys are watching gay porn for. To get aroused.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, what else are you watching porn for? Techniques.

[Monet X Change]

So the straight guy watching gay porn, a straight guy watching gay porn. Is he gay? Like, if you are getting off. If you're getting aroused and getting off from gay porn, are you straight?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you know, my, My, my hot take is there are no straight people. Straight people don't exist. Oh, my. My hot take is that CIS people do not exist and straight people do not exist.

[Monet X Change]

CIS people do not exist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They don't exist.

[Monet X Change]

So, like, so you're saying from birth, once you choose a thing like how.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How is everyone's on the gender spectrum and no one's on either end completely. No one is completely man. No one's completely woman, and no one's completely straight. No one's completely gay. I think a lot of us are really close to one end, but I don't think anyone. The number one porn. Oh, he had it for a second, so. Oh, okay.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. This is not anything close to what you said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, so the number one is hentai. Hentai is the top porn. Hentai, then milf, then penne. What's panet? Penne is like pasta. I think that.

[Monet X Change]

Isn't that Filipino? Yeah, Filipino. Isn't that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's pinoy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, pinoy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Unless pena is like, oh, no, no.

[Jacob]

Pinoy is for men and penne is for women.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, lesbian, anal, big ass, Latina.

[Monet X Change]

Trans is all the way at the bottom. Roberta. Trans is literally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was some. There was some stat out there. I'm not, I'm not making it up. There's some stat about. About people who search porn and who.

[Monet X Change]

Or.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or I think what it was was the number one viewer of Transporn was.

[Monet X Change]

That, I believe, 100% the number one viewer. Straight guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I think I saw something. I might, again, I might be wrong that the number one viewer of. Of gay porn was. I can't remember. I can't remember. Or the number one search amongst lesbians is gay porn or something. I can't. I can't fully remember. But femboy is. Femboy is pretty high up there.

[Jacob]

And it's up 15 spots from last year.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, well, you know, femboys are hot. Do you know what I, what I love about. I've had a podcast. Jennifer Welch, the blonde lady who's always good at gathering girl, is she's on this whole thing about how, like these, like, I forget the verbiage she used is so funny about these, like, secret. These secret. At all the Republican conventions and whatever the number like Death Grinder be crashing. And a lot of these, like people like Lindsey Graham and the one with Mike. Whatever his name is.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Anyway.

[Monet X Change]

No, that they all like Pence. Not Mike Pence.

[Narrator/Announcer]

The one who is the speaker of.

[Monet X Change]

The House right now for the Republic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Schumer.

[Monet X Change]

No, he's the minority. Chuck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's Chuck.

[Monet X Change]

That's Chuck Schumer. Who is Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson. That. All these other secrets.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's like a basketball player.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, exactly. You think of Michael Jordan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that they all like these secretly gay dudes. And that's why like Grinder be crashing at these conventions and they're all like having these secret hookups. Cause they're all in the closet. That's why they want to make so much legislation, so much anti queer legislation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one's straight.

[Monet X Change]

So you think no one in the world is straight. No one is straight and no one is gay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one's gay.

[Monet X Change]

And we're all on the gender spectrum.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are all non binary and we are all pansexual.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, it's basically like a RuPaul's thing. We're all born naked and the rest is drag. That's basically what he's saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not what that is.

[Monet X Change]

Well, he's saying that when you're born, like you're choosing a thing, you're choosing a frock to put on, you're choosing a costume of gender, you're choosing the costume of identity, you're choosing a costume of sexuality.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I think. That's what RuPaul is saying. So what is saying you're born naked and the clothes you're putting on, the. The outfits that you're wearing, that is your version of drag. But it's not a. But I think it's. He's actually talking about the things you put on your body. The way you do your hair, the way you do your makeup is all some expression. That's your drag. How you want to present yourself to the world to show them who you are. But I don't think. I don't think what RuPaul is saying is about. Is about who you are. It's about what you present. That's what I got from it.

[Monet X Change]

Interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not.

[Monet X Change]

I got the. I got the other side of it. I think what I get from what RuPaul saying, because. Because we all. We've heard him say it in terms of what you said, like how you're expressing your. How you're expressing yourself with your clothes you put on. But I think it's also how you express yourself internally. Like how. What gender you are. Cause I think big picture, I think. And again, I am maybe doing a lot of color. Huh? Color. Probably doing a lot of whatever. But I think rig picture. Ru understands, like, gender and identity. He's been in this game for fucking four decades. No, six decades. He's fucking 63, 65 years old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's not been in drag since he was five.

[Monet X Change]

I'm so. I'm somewhere on the world.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In the world.

[Monet X Change]

In the world for the 50s, for 60 plus years. And RuPaul. So I get. What I get from it is that he's talking big picture. Like all the things that you like, like your gender expression, your sexuality, like, all that stuff is your drag is what I get from it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He also explains he's like, when you put on your business suit, that's drag. He. When he. Whenever I hear him talk about it. Anyway, speaking of side notes, award shows, I'm going to the TikTok awards. You're going to TikTok awards?

[Monet X Change]

I'm going to. And I don't know which flash is going. Draggernot. I kind of want to go in drag to be cute and do a moment, but I don't know. I'm on the fence. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got to be honest, going places in drag just isn't my cup of tea.

[Monet X Change]

Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. For this one, I feel like I'll have fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do not have fun. I've only voted for one person. Two people on the TikTok awards. I know for sure. One is Astro Alexandra. She teaches about space stuff, and I think it is so she want. I learned a lot about the James Webb telescope and the Hubble telescope and just so much about space from her. And I didn't vote.

[Monet X Change]

What do you vote?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Voting's close.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Are you nominated?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't vote.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why I. But also my. My thing is, like, space is so, you know, you hear me going about space.

[Monet X Change]

It's vast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And, you know, also the ocean is completely unexplored as well.

[Monet X Change]

This transition is so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This, this, this is not a transition. The ocean is unexplored because the way he's jarring. The ocean is completely unexplored. Yeah, so what? First of all, I did my transition, like three minutes ago.

[Monet X Change]

You didn't Even see it. What's going on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I already did my transition, like, three minutes ago. You didn't even clock it.

[Monet X Change]

But don't. The thing is, you had to do it at the 15 minute mark, so you broke the rules.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought you said before 15 minutes.

[Jacob]

No, no, before 15 minutes.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You weren't listening.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I thought it was like. Like, were you gonna transition that into the topic?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did mine three minutes ago. You already missed it. I did so many that you didn't catch it. And I did that one so you wouldn't catch the one that actually did.

[Monet X Change]

What was the one you did?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This doesn't matter. Boy, please. Sibling transitionary. Oh, Segway.

[Monet X Change]

Segway. Anyway, yeah, I thought it was at the 15 minute mark that we're doing it to the topic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't listen to Jacob when he's speaking. We were talking about it the other day, by the way, and we want to bring it up to you.

[Monet X Change]

Well, tell me about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I feel like Jacob speaks sometimes and you just interpret how you want to interpret it instead of how he meant it.

[Monet X Change]

That sucks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to talk to Jake about that?

[Monet X Change]

We could talk off camera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You had a party this weekend and you didn't invite us.

[Monet X Change]

Correct.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what's up with that?

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, just me and my friends were just. We just wanted to have a party, and we didn't want any, like, you know, polycules or people from Australia. We don't want any of that kind of stuff at the party.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, make sure we're not invited to the wedding, too.

[Monet X Change]

For sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause I'm busy that day.

[Monet X Change]

Well, a lot of. Apparently a lot of things happened. Godoy farted on someone. Somebody else was gooning in the corner. Like, it's just gooning. That's what I was like, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, who's this? A Taylor Gooning.

[Monet X Change]

Gooning. Which maybe I don't understand what the word gooning means.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you think gooning is?

[Monet X Change]

Gooning is, like, drinking too much and, like, acting silly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What in the boomer is going on?

[Monet X Change]

How am I a boomer?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gooning is when you masturbate for so long that you lose your mind and you start making these, like, crazy faces. Take a look.

[Monet X Change]

That is not what gooning is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's absolutely.

[Monet X Change]

Girl, you're gonna be so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

And I. No, no, I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because you're not sure. I don't think you're right about this.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think you're right about this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gooning.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, it has to do with masturbation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gooning is when you're Jacob Jesus Christ, these are recording. Gooning is when you're edging for so long that you have lost your mind and you can't think straight and your brain is just like you have like a one track mind. Like all you can think about is the sensation you're feeling and, and you're like.

[Narrator/Announcer]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I don't edge.

[Monet X Change]

I don't edge either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like to. When I'm with someone who likes to edge, that's always great. But I don't edge.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so you like to edge someone. You don't. You like being the edger. You don't like being the edge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

E. Yeah, because if I edge too many times, it's gone like a third time. It's. It is. It's. I'll never get it back.

[Monet X Change]

Well, because you'll be here all night. Well, that's because they're taking you too. They're taking you on. They're taking you too close to the edge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I. I don't. I. No, because also, the thing is like, it also sometimes, like if you edge too far and then you try to pull back, but you've gone too far.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then you just get a little leak.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, a little leak.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I don't enjoy edging either. Edging is not my thing. I will say. I mean, when I was younger, when I had more time in the day, when I had a whole day of nothing to do, I would Edge myself. Like, I would, like, masturbate over the course of an hour, and I'm like, geez, I just had. I just had nothing to do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I pretty much exclusive with my partners. I pretty much exclusively, exclusively have sex at night. Like, there is. There is no. There's not a lot of day fucking going on.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. And then there's a period of time we were morning fuckers a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, really, like at the end of the night, once you're. Once you have showered and you've laid in bed and you've done your skincare and you put your hair products in. End of day. Completely end of day.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob D. Have you seen Mama Beef?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, I want to be clear. We've cleared this up. I chewed you in the way because.

[Monet X Change]

You were putting on Jacob lives with you. So Jacob, Jacob, in this room, Jacob, you're screaming. And I will scream. That's how I talk. You're not gonna police my voice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will police your voice too.

[Monet X Change]

You won't. Jacob has seen you wake up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, Jacob has never seen me wake up. We don't sleep in the same bed.

[Monet X Change]

You and Jacob slept in the same bed for a very long time. This is only.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I always wake up before him. Every single time.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, is that true?

[Jacob]

That's not true.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you 100%.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Jacob has. One of us is lying.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob has seen you wake up at least a thousand times. Jacob has the most experiences seeing you wake up. I think Jacob is a good person to judge how you wake up in the morning. Did you beat me in that competition for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What does he know? What does this fucking guy know?

[Monet X Change]

Also, I said this on the podcast before. I used to wake you up at your home in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not often.

[Monet X Change]

At least like once a month. I would wake you up at your home in Harlem about you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was never west side.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I lived in Washington Heights. I went up. I would live below. I lived. But I've never lived in. I never lived in Harlem. So was it in Washington Heights or was it November, west side? Which one was it? Because it wasn't out in Harlem.

[Monet X Change]

Hey, Bob, I've seen you wake up several times too. So you're not gonna gaslight me as in my experiences, you waking up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have footage of me waking up and clearing you. Clearing you.

[Monet X Change]

You could tell Bob was just waking. Oh, yeah. People in the last current events are. They're like, Bob was. You could tell Bob just woke up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What one?

[Monet X Change]

When you were in Houston.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not just wake up. That was not true. I did not just wake up. I was tired, but I did not just wake up, though.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was tired. That was very. Clicks. I. I did not know those. I was. I was Robert Turner. I did not know that was happening today.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not know that was happening that day. I was like. I got a call from Jacob. I was just laying in bed looking at tick tocks or something. And then I got a call from Jacob. Jake was like, will we have it in three minutes? I was like, what? I was like, oh, my God. So then I, like, ran over to my computer and like, set it up in the corner of this hotel and.

[Monet X Change]

Was that in. That wasn't in Houston. And it was in Houston.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In Houston.

[Monet X Change]

I know you scratch better than you do, bitch. That wasn't Houston.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know my schedule.

[Monet X Change]

By the means, yeah. You have a full day of shooting something on Friday. I know that with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't say it wasn't without. I'm just saying. I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What am I doing after this?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What am I doing after this?

[Monet X Change]

After this? Today you have a. You have a meeting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've already done my meetings.

[Monet X Change]

You have one more with me. You have a meeting together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what do you think my topic was? What do you think my. What do you think my SEGUORY was?

[Monet X Change]

I think your topic was supposed to be about space.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cleared. Honey, it was not about space.

[Monet X Change]

What was it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was about the ocean and the unexplored depths of the ocean. That's why I threw you so many fucking twists and turns. You didn't even know what's coming. Honey, gather. Did you even do yours? You didn't even do yours. I don't think Monet did hers.

[Monet X Change]

No, she did. I did mine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did yours?

[Monet X Change]

I did mine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet's was gooning. It was obviously gooning. That's what it was. No.

[Monet X Change]

Cause you didn't think I did it, bro.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was gooning. You literally said I didn't. But I just did that. I just deduced.

[Monet X Change]

I deduced my. I think we could. Yes, you guessed mine. I didn't guess yours. But I think the footage is to show that my segue is better. Jacob, if you had to judge whose segue is better, I'm impartial.

[Jacob]

I think we should let the comments.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I caught yours.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, well, let's let the comments decide.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's ask the audience. I can't believe you still haven't seen that clip.

[Monet X Change]

No. What is it from?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's at ihop, I believe. Or Denny's or some restaurant. And then this guy tells his waiter that he does not. Can you pull it up, Jacob? And this guy says that he didn't like his food. And the waiter was. She was like, well, it looks like you ate the whole thing. And then he's filming her. And then she turns her plate to the camera and goes, well, let's ask the audience.

[Monet X Change]

That sounds hilarious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's so fucking funny. In fact, listen, y', all, we will be right back with more Silver Ivory right after this break.

[Monet X Change]

That's it.

[Jacob]

We don't take breaks at 15 minutes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You do a 15 minute break. No, we don't. We talked about this for the third.

[Monet X Change]

Time that we don't take a break at 15 minutes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think we should do a 15 minute break because that can be. That can be the official.

[Monet X Change]

No, they will still do a thing where we don't need to say we're taking a break. This whole entire plate has been eaten, sir. So you can't take that off my. No, not unless you would have gotten us at the very beginning and said that you didn't like your meal. I could have replaced it for you. Yeah, you ate the whole entire thing, sir. There's not even like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got.

[Monet X Change]

So she telling me I got.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, let me ask the audience. That's good.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. They still do the transition. But we don't need to say let's take a break.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to say let's take a break. Why? When did we all come to this conclusion? We weren't going to take breaks because.

[Monet X Change]

We'Re not taking a break.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's literally just. I think it could be our break for the patrons, the non patrons. I think we should do the break.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why are we calling Jay about the break?

[Monet X Change]

About the break?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Jay. I think we should do the break in 15 minutes.

[Monet X Change]

We don't need to do it. He still puts a transition in there. We don't need to say to take a break.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like the break. Jay, what do you think? Do you like the break?

[Jacob]

Tell me. It's on the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're on the podcast, by the way. Oh, okay. I mean, it doesn't really matter. I don't think there's a vote for me. That's a vote on my side.

[Narrator/Announcer]

No, that's not how that works.

[Monet X Change]

We have an impartial. Impartial. We have won once.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say I like the break.

[Monet X Change]

For transitioning into the topic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you, Jay.

[Monet X Change]

That I do like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you, Jay. You're an angel. Always an angel. That's why you this.

[Monet X Change]

And Jacob doesn't want it. Jacob and I don't want it. So now what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is why I'm Jay's favorite drag queen and will always be. And then after me, it's Dallas Dubois. And then after Dallas Dubois, it's Keeja car. And then after Keeja car is you.

[Monet X Change]

It is definitely not Keeja car. About to say we're on the podcast, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry.

[Monet X Change]

I don't give a shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, I gotta go. Bye.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God, he's sorry, Drama. I didn't know he didn't like Keeziang. I didn't know that girl Jack Keeja, they have a long history. Girl Keezh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know Jay. I didn't know.

[Monet X Change]

I love Keeja. I love Jay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ok, so quote Whitney Houston.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't know. A couple episodes ago, we asked Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's things.

[Monet X Change]

No one listens to their voicemails anymore. And we put a poll on the podcast. 68% of you, an overwhelming majority, still listen to their voicemails, which is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not crazy. Why do we even. You can just send a voicemail, but.

[Monet X Change]

That'S a voice note via text from someone that you don't know is very informal.

[Narrator/Announcer]

Like, let's say.

[Monet X Change]

Like, let's say I'm calling you about your cars extended warranty. I'm gonna leave you to send you a voice note.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I get texts. People I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Those are friends, though. They're not random.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I get texts from people. Hi, this is Bernie Sanders. Text me.

[Monet X Change]

That's scams.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Bernie Sanders. Those are real texts. I am once again, also, Jacob got caught in a lie. Jacob has sent me a voicemail.

[Monet X Change]

Here it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you listen to the other day, Jacob? This is Jacob's voicemail to me, sent on December 24, 2021. Oh, wait, hold on.

[Monet X Change]

This is the one day you had your voicemail empty. How did you have space? So used to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here it is.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry, I. I left this on because I'm so used to. I'm so used to your not being able to leave messages. This is wild. I didn't know I could leave messages. That's so exciting. That's wild. I love you, work bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, that's my one voicemail.

[Monet X Change]

Your voicemail has been full since I met you. How is there space on this one? Random.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why I left it.

[Jacob]

And I was gagged because it let me record. And I was like, oh, well, now I need to Say something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The last voicemail I got was in 2022. But how.

[Monet X Change]

Your voicemail has been spill ever since I've known you. Did you clear it one day?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I never cleared it up.

[Monet X Change]

So how was there space?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't answer.

[Jacob]

I'm not allowed to go to voicemail.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm going to decline it. And what's.

[Monet X Change]

Your call has been forwarded to an.

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[Monet X Change]

Caldwell. Caldwell is not available. The mailbox is full and cannot accept. 14 years. It's been that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not. I got a message in 2022. That's not 14 years. How did that happen? I don't know, girl. I don't work at fucking Verizon.

[Monet X Change]

You sell Verizon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I'm so blindly loyal to AT&T. I don't know why I'm still with those hoes. I should leave them. But bitch, it's about to be a fucking monopoly because thing is buying AT&T is about to buy this thing that's gonna let them take Verizon. It's about to be at&t. Cause who acquired Sprint? One of them acquired Sprint. Verizon acquired Sprint a few years ago and T Mobile acquired something else. So there's been those big three, right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

AT&T. Singular.

[Monet X Change]

Singular was acquired by AT&T.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they. Because Singular introduced rollover minutes, right?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Remember? He remember nights and weekends.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. People couldn't call you. I was trying to explain to my nephew that back in the day people could not call you before 8 o'. Clock.

[Monet X Change]

No, 9 o'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Clock. But it depends on where you were, I guess. Or who you had.

[Monet X Change]

So was it nine by your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, it was based on. No, it was in the time zone. But different companies had different nights. Time starts.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. So for all you Gen Zers and gen Alphas and maybe Gen if you're a gen beta, listen to this podcast that is really young. Anyway, so back how we used to work was the cell phone companies gave you nights and weekend minutes. So you had nights.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not like weekend minutes. Nights and weekends were free. During the day you had minutes.

[Monet X Change]

No. Well, it changed some companies. At first it was nights and weekend minutes. Then when it started getting more and more competitive, they were like, oh, you know what? On nights and weekends, you can talk for free. During the day you have this amount of time. That's what it became.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, that was the big thing. So if someone calls you during the.

[Monet X Change]

Day, you had like, I'll talk to you later. Bye.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Literally like 500 minutes for the whole week. For the whole month. You had, like, 500 minutes. You could talk during the day.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then nights and weekends, you could talk for free.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy, girl. That we were living in. What was that? I mean, we didn't know any better.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was the beginnings of the. When did you. How old you got your first cell phone?

[Monet X Change]

I got my first cell phone when I was in sixth grade, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

What is that? Old? Jesus Christ. Old or young?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Keep talking. I'll tell you mine.

[Monet X Change]

And it was the. It was first when Virgin Mobile did the little. They had little phones you could buy at the store, and I think it was a Kyocera little phone. And I had that for, like, a year. And then I transitioned to the Sidekick, and I got. A Sidekick was my second phone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got my first cell phone when I was 20.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, if you were 20, that means I was 16, which means I was in 10th grade. So about five, I was in college.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got my first cell phone.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't have a cell phone in high school.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, but y' all live in, like, a little town. Like, I was in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I lived in Atlanta, Georgia, which is not a little town.

[Monet X Change]

It's not. But I was. I was. I was a kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What little town are you talking about?

[Monet X Change]

I was a kid taking the trains and buses in New York. My, like, my family was like, we need to get your phone. Just in case anything happens, we need to, like, you need to call us. So that's why I had a phone. My phone was for emergency users, which I think a lot of kids, when you first go to school, the phone is for emergency. Your parents are wearing. Well, in our generation, your parents weren't giving you a phone for social media or whatever it was to make calls for emergencies when you needed to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't have anything to do with, like.

[Monet X Change]

No, no. Because when I got my Sidekick, I'm pretty sure I paid for myself from shoveling and doing chores and stuff, like, I raised for the home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You got paid to do chores in your own home?

[Monet X Change]

For things that weren't, like, my usual things. Right. My usual things were cleaning the room, the bathroom and the basement. If I did things outside of that, like, if. Like to bring the garbage out and stuff like that, I would get, like, little extra.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You got paid to take the garbage out?

[Monet X Change]

A little extra? Like a little $5 here and there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's paying you?

[Monet X Change]

My aunt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think that's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I used to mow my yard when I was nine.

[Monet X Change]

What else did you do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I cleaned the whole house.

[Monet X Change]

You cleaned the whole house by yourself?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we all cleaned the house.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so it wasn't just you. Clear it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say. I'm not saying.

[Monet X Change]

You said I cleaned the house. That tells us that you do your own.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I clean the house. I would clean. I would clean, I would mow. First of all, my brother couldn't mow the grass.

[Monet X Change]

Cause he's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was allergic to grass.

[Monet X Change]

Is he still.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I haven't asked him.

[Monet X Change]

Cause you know, you can agro allergies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you can develop them too.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So just. I mow the grass by myself.

[Monet X Change]

How big we talking?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was. How big was my yard?

[Monet X Change]

Your age, and I was nine years old. And how big was the yard?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I think that the front and the backyard was maybe half an acre. Maybe.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch, talk to us in fucking feed till we half an acre.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nigga, I don't know how big a fucking acre is. Well, okay, that's. Let's, let's, let's, let's bring our voices down. No, the drive. Okay. My front yard, the half. The front yard was a two car garage. I mean a two. Listen, okay. A two car parking way. I mean driveway. And then the. So you could probably, you could probably. Realistically, you could fit two cars side by side. And then right next to it was the exact same amount of space.

[Monet X Change]

And that's half an acre.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then outside a backyard that was. You could probably fit four cars comfortably in five to six if you packed them all in side by side.

[Monet X Change]

Five cars in the back and four cars in the front.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. And that's.

[Monet X Change]

And you would mow that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, bitch. You were taking out garbage and getting money for it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, to the garbage chute. No, no, the garbage chute, nigga. We had a house that had to go all the way from the back, especially in the freezing cold.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And how big was the yard?

[Narrator/Announcer]

Our yard.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, our yard was probably three cars side by side in the front. Like three cars and three. So six cars, like back to back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you about to try to insinuate what? That you taking the garbage around your house and you not even have a big yard is.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's not a big yard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, New Yorkers don't have big yards. No one lives in New York City has a big yard. I've never seen a big yard in New York City.

[Monet X Change]

It's relatively.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't have big yards. Yeah, relative To America. Y' all don't have big yards. I've. I have never seen a big yard in New York City.

[Monet X Change]

You know, Jay's. Jay's parents in. And then they got a big ass yard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've seen. I've seen in place where New York City, where the house goes to the sidewalk. You. You off the sidewalk. You're basically at the front door. Y' all do not have big yards in New York City. And you know this. And you try to tell me that that little journey on your garbage, you think that's sim? That's comparable to me mowing the whole.

[Monet X Change]

Yard when you're 10 years old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was nine. So I was younger than you.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was operating heavy machines.

[Monet X Change]

You also said you were six foot twelve by the time you were. You were nine. You were nine years old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was in seventh grade. I was six two in seventh grade. This is third grade.

[Monet X Change]

Third grade is ninth. Is not. Is ninth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how old I was in third grade.

[Monet X Change]

That seems so dangerous to have a third. A third grader mowing a yard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we're judging my mom's parenting.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not judging your mom's parenting. I'm just saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Crazy. My dead mother's parenting. Judging my dead mother's parenting is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Tie your shoelace.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tie it for me, please. Please. I would tie yours. I think I have tied your shoelace.

[Monet X Change]

You have not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have. And I've put you in some strappy shoes too.

[Monet X Change]

When you put me in strappy shoes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you always wear strappy shoes. I've done your shoes for you.

[Monet X Change]

You have not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I haven't.

[Monet X Change]

In this world that you just put me in shoes for what reason? When Ty and Patty were either both there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You haven't always had Ty and Patty.

[Monet X Change]

Okay? And I went to wear strappy shoes before you. Before Ty and Patty were around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never seen a strappy shoe before.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think that's true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I absolutely have. But anyway, to be clear, me mowing the yard is definitely more work than you taking out the trash.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I'm talking about in general. I did a lot of housework.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just don't think you should get paid for it. I mean, it's fierce that you did. I would have gagged. I would have tried to pitch it to my mom.

[Monet X Change]

It's about how. It's about them teaching me. Like, if you want to earn money, we're not just gonna give you money. Like, you have to do chores to earn your keep. And I was like, that's fierce. That's. That's fine to me. I think. I think that's what my value lesson in money, like, and like, how I like. I can't just. Because I had friends who would just get allowance money. Like, they just got an allowance, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never got. I never got an allowance.

[Monet X Change]

Just existing. You got 20 a week or whatever it was. I had to earn my allowance or. Or get paid for working around the house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I never got an allowance and I just had to do work around the house. It was. It was not negotiable. There was no. There was no negotiating. What you could negotiate is what you're cleaning. But you. But you were not negotiating any. Getting any money for it.

[Monet X Change]

So how would you make money before you could work?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mowed yards. I cut other people. I cut neighborhoods in the. In the. In the. I cut grass in the neighborhood when I lived in Alabama, and when I got to Atlanta, I sold candy. I was a candy lady.

[Monet X Change]

You sold candy? And how would you. How would you earn money? How did you earn money? So you fund the money, you've got cutting grass, you bought candy, you'd sell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, there's years between. So I asked my mother for a 100 loan. She lent me the money, and then I paid her back.

[Monet X Change]

And how did this candy business do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pretty well. I was. I was a really successful candy lady.

[Monet X Change]

What type of candies did you sell?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Straw head sour. Like straw sour punch straws.

[Monet X Change]

I love those.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Snickers, Kit Kats, Honey buns.

[Monet X Change]

Were you giving full bars or little bite sauce?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Full bars. I would go to the farmer's market where they had the full ones. I would also get honey buns. And that was in like other skittles. M&M's got it. Yeah. And I. So I took. We took the TV out of the entertainment center.

[Monet X Change]

And in your home? In my home, the entertainment center.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The entertainment center.

[Monet X Change]

Do you know what? Entertainment center. Entertainment center. It just sounds very grand. If a nigga just say living room. Entertainment center.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Okay. An entertainment center is not the living room.

[Monet X Change]

I know. It's a thing that has a radio and then all they want thing. I get it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you want me to call that the living room?

[Monet X Change]

It just sounds very fancy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you call yours? You have entertainment center in your home right now?

[Monet X Change]

No, it's not all one thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that area, that thing where you.

[Monet X Change]

Put all of your entertainment stuff, it's called a credenza. It's not an entertainment center.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, ours was an entertainment center. So you think credenza Sounds less fancy than entertainment center.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, the entertainment center.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think a credenza?

[Monet X Change]

That sounds grand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, mine was. It was tall, two stories. No, it was one story. The entertainment center was. It fit in one room. It was in the living room.

[Monet X Change]

It had several. It had a compartment about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it had a space down below for the stereo and the. For, like the radio with the CD player and stuff. And then the DVD player was right above that. The TV used to be above that, but then the TV got put in my brother's room or my room.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I needed it for the candy store.

[Monet X Change]

You needed the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I needed it for the candy store. The entertainment center. I need it for the candy store.

[Monet X Change]

So your mom lets you convert your. You know, let's talk about this and we'll talk about it in a second.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, we have ad breaks now.

[Monet X Change]

Let's see. We have an ad break now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

Jacob don't care. Jacob just be like he used to really be. I know. He's Jacob used to be, not Jacob. A bar?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. Your little podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so you're Ms. Martha Calob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wish we had a camera on Jacob. This is my first. Can we both do a person Jacob right now? Jacob's like.

[Monet X Change]

So Ms. Martha Cobb will let you. Let you take the family TV out of the living room entertainment center to make. To convert the entertainment center into your candy store?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

And how you mean. What do you mean? Like, you would hang all the. Like, how do you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I had all the boxes in there. I had a menu that I printed up. I was actually really proficient in Word and Microsoft art and Microsoft Word and PowerPoint presentations when I was younger. Like, really proficient. I used to actually do them for. I used to make PowerPoints for professionals, actually.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At my mom's job. And so they would hire me to do them, and then I would just put all my candy in there and, like, a nice display. I also, for a short time, had. I called my company Tight Bites. Like, tight. We say tight back there. Like this. This outfit is tight.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I said tight, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know what y' all had up north. I don't have up there. So I also did it on the weekend. I would do it in barbershop. At a barbershop. I would set up my candy store at the barbershop. So that's how I made my money.

[Monet X Change]

So your setup was mobile?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like a. I mean, it was just a bunch of boxes and a menu.

[Monet X Change]

They have like a cart or something?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I had a table. So the. I think I either brought my own table or the barbershop. I had a table, and I would set up at the table, and I would just sit there all week, all day. One day on the weekend and sell candy to everyone.

[Monet X Change]

And so how would you transfer all your things to the barbershop?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My mom would drive me.

[Monet X Change]

So would you pay for Gas?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Wow. No. So you don't think you should pay your fair share of transporting it? Overlooked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She didn't ask for it. My mom was also very overprotective. So for a long time, if we had a job, my mother was at the job. My mom, when she was working at Morris Brown, she was the head of Cyberlab. My brother got a job at Taco Bell, and she got a job at Taco Bell, too.

[Monet X Change]

So it could be like, make sure he's all right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she worked every shift he worked.

[Monet X Change]

That's so sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. Every shift Justin worked, my mother works.

[Monet X Change]

I would hate that, though. Oh, Justin. I'm like, mom, please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So she would finish grabbing Morris Brown, go over to Taco Bell at the Georgia Dome, or the Taco Bell near the Georgia Dome or something like that, and then they would work the cause my mom got him the job because her friend was the manager, and she was like, well, if you get Justin a job, you need to get me a job.

[Monet X Change]

I would hate that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Justin and my mom work all the same shifts.

[Monet X Change]

Did Justin hate that or did he love it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

I never asked him. I would have hated that. I think when I was younger, I really. Which I think it showed up later in my life, too. I love independence. I am fiercely independent. I like doing things on my own. So the fact that my mom would have been there with me, I would have been like, mom, please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I know that I would have loved it.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I love hanging out with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My mom when I was a kid, I was. I was. When I was a boy. So I'm like, I wanted my mom to be everywhere. But also, this is. What Monet is saying is very true. So people always ask me, did I give Monet advice on the Traders? And the answer is no, because Monet does not want advice from me on anything. Monet is that one of which is not a bad thing. I think that Monetary likes to know that she did it by herself and that she likes to know that she did it without my help or anything.

[Monet X Change]

That's not true. I have gotten your advice on things before. We talk about stuff all the time. It just didn't come up in terms of advice for the show. Also. It was also the thing because, I mean, it's not like Drag Race, where you're scared to. There's a little more, like, all celebrities. The thing of, like, no one's supposed to know you're going on the show. Obviously, we spoke about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was also trying to figure My theory is. Here's my theory. I think that you asked me for advice on things that I haven't, like, directly done. Like, for example. So when it comes to going to the trader, I think if you go into Traders before me, you'd be like, let's talk about a plan. But I think that because I did traders first, you were like, I need to know that I'm doing this on my own.

[Monet X Change]

No, the reality is, I honestly don't think there's any perspective that you could have offered me that I needed. Because everything that you've done on Traders, we've talked about. Right. We talked about your time on the show. You and I talk on. On podcast, privately about, like, how you played the game or how you play the game. And, like, from a castle, you call me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we've talked about, like, all that stuff. So, like, there's not like a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just because I don't remember getting a call from.

[Monet X Change]

There's not a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who did you call?

[Monet X Change]

I spoke to Patty. It was about. Really. About work and Andy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, first of all. And I will say the number.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They offered you that because you had the opportunity to call. Huh? You had. They did give you an opportunity to call people. People. And you didn't choose to call me.

[Monet X Change]

No, they called the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but they gave you the opportunity to call people, and I wasn't on them. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

No, I didn't call anyone. They. Anyway, so in terms of traders, it wasn't like a. Like, you and I spoke at night, like, for hours on. On podcasts and solo, just in the car, about you, how you did the show and how you played the game. I've listened to countless interviews about you, talking about your time, how you would play the game. So there wasn't really like a different interviews. I listened to a lot of your content, Bob. You almost had all pretty much, maybe. I would say maybe 90% of your content I listen to. So there was like. What new information do you think you could have offered me that? I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who knows?

[Monet X Change]

I just don't think it's anything new.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who knows?

[Monet X Change]

Like, when I went to Drag Race, I got a lot of advice from you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was a different time, though. We were very different back then.

[Monet X Change]

How? Why is it different?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our relationship has changed over time.

[Narrator/Announcer]

That's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every relationship changes over time.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but I think in terms of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag Race, I think you've gotten more into. I think you've gotten more. You've become more known on your own and less as my friend as the time goes on. Because then I was. I was like. I was like the new girl on. On Drag Race. And you went on just two years after me.

[Monet X Change]

So was it. Yeah, I want to say one year was. Was two years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So, yeah, so that's what I think. And also, and I think the game of Traitors is just unique in that whereas Drag Race, it really is about your talents and how you're showing up and how you're presenting yourself on the show. And like, you know, not to say the winning traitors, there's no talent, but.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It literally is Dylan Efron found dead. A lot of it is Dolores found dead. Dolores Catania found dead.

[Monet X Change]

Is her last name Catania?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you check it? I think so.

[Monet X Change]

I always want to say Umbridge, but that's a girl from Harry Potter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dolores. Real Housewives. Yeah, Dolores Catania.

[Monet X Change]

That's a great last name. Catania.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, I love Dolores. She's so sweet.

[Monet X Change]

So with Traitors, a lot of it is like a big part of the game is chance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

It's how you perceive and how people are perceiving you. But a lot of it is chance. Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like two of the people who won just won by chance.

[Monet X Change]

No, I did not say. I did not say. That's the only fact. That's a lot you said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The only reason why Dylan Efron won is because he's lucky.

[Monet X Change]

Nailed it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dylan Efron is a very lucky person.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He is just like, he's so lucky. He's just lucky.

[Monet X Change]

Lucky. Can you wanna give us anything? Like what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, first of all, he was born into a famous family. Let's just start with that. He's born with a famous brother. I don't think he was born. He was born and then his brother became famous. So then he has that boost.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then he's just genetically lucky. He's in great shape. He doesn't seem to have any ailments, whatever, whatsoever.

[Monet X Change]

We don't know that Dylan. Dylan might be struggling with some crazy shit that you don't know about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Might be, but it certainly doesn't seem to be.

[Monet X Change]

Also, he looks like he works out a lot to get what he.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but a lot of that is also genetics. Some people. Some people can't work out and look the way the Dylan looks. Then also, he got cast on the biggest. I mean, a lot of my life is luck too. I can acknowledge a lot. I'm a. I, I tell folks I am a very lucky person. I'm like, I. I don't believe in God. But if there is a God, I'm one of her favorites, easily, hands down. The universe loves me. And Dylan is one of the folks. The universe loves him. He just. He's on Dance with the Stars. He's popping off there. He's got all these like. He's. He beat me on the. He beat me on the fucking after midnight.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. Did he win after midnight?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because we were neck and neck and then we were the final two, and then it came down to who could fit the most PEZ in a PEZ dispenser.

[Monet X Change]

My girl. He's straight. Straight guys love PEZ dispensers. I mean, it's 20% of their fucking personality.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I grew up liking PEZ dispensers enough, and I think. I don't think he's old enough to have ever used a fucking PEZ dispenser.

[Monet X Change]

Is he younger than you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

How old is Dylan Efron?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Dylan's in his 40s.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know, 33. He's younger than me. Wow, he's so cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He looks like the guy from the new season.

[Monet X Change]

From the new season.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The new season of Traitors.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, what's the new season?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, he looks like the gay football player. He looks like Colton. Colton looks like Dylan Efron on Star Wars.

[Monet X Change]

No, girl. No, Colton is blonde. Dylan is not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dylan's not blonde.

[Monet X Change]

No, he's Burnett. Colton Underwood. Bob. These people are not the same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think they look very similar. That looks like Dylan Efron. That's like Dylan Efron on Tess Housearon.

[Monet X Change]

You're fucking. Is Dylan. Is Dylan queer? No. At all. Like, not even a little bit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, he's super. He's. Ally. Ally. Valentina. Speak. Valentina. Ally. He got invited to the Glider Wars. I didn't even get invited. And I hosted him. And we've won four sitting over there. I got four GLAD Awards than I hosted this bitch. I didn't even get invited last year. I said, oh, oh, hi, gang.

[Monet X Change]

Remember that year that we campaigned for our Glad Award and we won it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. That was the last time we'll ever outdo.

[Monet X Change]

Fucking honestly. Take them off the list. Take them off the list?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. They shouldn't be allowed to be. Can I just say. Go ahead. No, they should move up to the Golden Globes.

[Monet X Change]

Well, they just announced. They just announced a category at one of. At a very big award show for podcasts. Have you seen this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Golden Globes?

[Monet X Change]

Is it Golden Globes?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, like There's a podcast, like, award.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The nominees are already out.

[Monet X Change]

It's a. Call her daddy and Amy Poehler. Amy Poehler's one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we look up the nominees?

[Monet X Change]

That's, like, fierce. Honestly, podcasting is becoming. I mean, or. Or do we make a separate award show for it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For.

[Monet X Change]

Because the world of podcasting, since we've started podcasting, we weren't even at the beginning of it. I would say we're like the middle. Podcasting popped off in, like, 20. Like, nine. 2009, I would say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My first podcast that I ever did was with Frosty Flakes way back in the day. I did my first podcast in, like, 2010. I've been podcast since, like, 2010.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, podcasting, like, started. And correct me if I'm wrong, so some of, like, actually Monet, but I. I believe it's around 2008, 2009. We're podcasting, like, started. No, before that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I would say the first podcast was probably around 2001.

[Monet X Change]

No, at the millennium. At the turn of the century.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe in the. Maybe in the late 90s.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, can you please wait? Wait, actually, before we do that. So the Golden Globe nominees for the category is Best Podcast at the Golden Globes. And it's Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard. Call Her Daddy with Alex Cooper. Good hang with Amy Poehler. The Mel Robbins Podcast with Mel Robbins. Smart list. And up first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, up first for the win. That's my number one podcast of the year. I. That podcast is a great way to start your day. I mean, it's got some depressing stuff in some time, but, God, I love that podcast. I never listened to it every month. Well, Monday through Friday and the Sunday report. So six days a week, I listen to this podcast.

[Monet X Change]

I listen to the View.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will. I. I'm behind us. I hate to miss an up first and if I can hit it and if I have time, although my. My ride work usually isn't long enough, I'd love to hit a double whammy. Up first. Swinging around. Consider this.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Up first has to win.

[Monet X Change]

I like the Daily. I'm surprised the Daily's not up there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Up first has to win. Has to.

[Monet X Change]

No girl call her daddy. Alex Cooper call her daddy is a girl. I mean, I think this year, Amy Poehler, which Amy Poehler fucking this podcast is. Please. I fucking hate that joke matter. Amy. Good hang is probably, what, maybe like a year and a half old. Ava Poehler, like, has really turned the part in this podcast. It's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like in my mind Though if this is gonna be for the big. The biggest big dogs that you can't be like, whenever I see at the fucking queerties or at the GLAAD Awards, Beyonce in the fucking category with Selena ass titties. Come on.

[Monet X Change]

That is crazy. But I think queerty is the only person place that does that. Queerty will literally have best authors. It's like fucking Jesus, the Bible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John versus Bob the drag Queen with Harrietub and live in content.

[Monet X Change]

It's like, girl, yeah, queerty does do that. That shit is correct.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like, you want me to compete against Beyonce? Come on, guys.

[Monet X Change]

You're so right. Qwerty does. Dude, I forgot. At every era, every day I'm there, I'm watching the thing. I'm like, this is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like. Like the anthem anthems this year or the queety awards this year. Were Alan coming? Megan the Stallion. Nava. Nava Ma. I'm not sure who that is. But if Nava. If Nymphia win is up against Chap and Billy Eilish, Cynthia Revo. So NY win is competing against Chapel, Ron, Cynthia Revo, Billy Eilish and Megan the Stallion. That's not. Not fair. That's not a fair fight.

[Monet X Change]

TV performance. Yeah, it's great. Musical breakout star. You have Lux Noir, London versus. This is actually.

[Jacob]

These are normal people.

[Monet X Change]

Who's Katie got? Oh, Katie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. From Muna.

[Monet X Change]

I love Katie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Muno. The. The.

[Monet X Change]

The. The lesbian.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's that song?

[Jacob]

Silk Chiffon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, silks. Silk.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they. They do. They do. They do they get wild in there. Yeah, it's too much. It's too much podcast for this quote. That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

2000.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

2003.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

2003. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Where were we? What were you doing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was a junior in high school.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we were too young.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I wonder what the first podcast, it probably sounded crazy. And you know what I discovered recently? Well, in the first year, Andy and I were dating. Wait, he did a podcast when he was in college with one of his roommates and he hated. I like, scrubbed the Internet. I found his fucking podcast. He got it deleted. I wanted to play for you this way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You download, like, when I find your old embarrassing videos that you don't like, I download them. We have a whole Google Drive.

[Monet X Change]

Because y' all are freaks. And y' all are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you should have done anything.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all are demented.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have your teaching video. You try to get rid of it. I still have it.

[Monet X Change]

I would have Brett Green fucking shut y' all shit down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Try it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Watch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Try it now.

[Monet X Change]

I'm busy. I'm at work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think Braygreen can stop me from downloading something you put up on the Internet?

[Monet X Change]

Help me out with something. The other day, he really. I was like, wow. Do you really? You are worth every gold.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you guys want me to post the videos in money, I'll make one big compilation of all Monet's delete videos, and I'll post them over on. No, you're not on the Silver Patreon.

[Monet X Change]

No, you're not. You don't have my consent to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not asking your consent.

[Monet X Change]

You don't have my consent to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not asking.

[Monet X Change]

You're not posting it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you gonna do?

[Monet X Change]

You're not posting it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you gonna do?

[Monet X Change]

The warrior.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, we have the warrior goddess makeup tutorial. That's how you try to get rid of it, but I have it now. What? If you guys want my next makeup tutorial to be Monet's warrior goddess makeup tutorial, just comment below and I'll make sure that the next one on my page.

[Monet X Change]

If you do, you have to do the poof, too. You have to do everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, you know, I try. I try to follow them as close as I can. As close as I can. I try. I try my best.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think I put the poof in this tutorial, though. But you have to do the executed look with the who.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Figure out how you do.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think you can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that your technique.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think you can. Poofs were legendary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a very talented woman. Your wigging is not great.

[Monet X Change]

Those poofs were legendary. I made a name for myself in New York with those poofs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I told this story on the pod before, but I have to bring it back because we don't know, because I mentioned this today. Me and Monet were just filming something the other day, and she did something that was so Just visually bad. It was just a bad.

[Monet X Change]

What did I do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was just a bad piece of art that she made, and it ended up being a mistake. She fucked up what she was making, and then it just got really hideous. And then Monet was like, no, I like it. I like it, actually.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'm not doing a bit. I genuinely love that thing, and I will use it for what I made, for what it ended up becoming. It was not the original goal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know.

[Monet X Change]

But what it ended up being, I was like, this is great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what? So this. I was trying to tell this a lady who works here, her name is Sid. I said, sid, this is who Monet is. Monet will convince herself that she loves it, even if she knows it's bad. So years ago, Monet was backstage at Industry, and Monet was wearing a pair of panties under her leotard, which you don't normally do because they can slide out. You could show. But Monet, I don't know, she's had on her panties. But Monet pulled up her leotard without pulling up her panties. But she didn't. I guess she didn't check herself in the mirror, and she just went on stage. So what's happening is Monet's leotard is up here, but the panties are down here. They're sticking out at the sides. And then I said, monet, your panties are sticking out. Like, we can see your panties in. In the. There were black panties. Just black panties. They were. It was like a sparkly leotard. Like some. It was like a very cool fabric leotard and just a pair of black panties. And then I said, oh, Monet, your panties are showing. When she goes. I said, your panties are shaking now. And then instead of being like, oh, Monet goes, I meant to do that. And not only that, I like it. I like how it looks. I did this on purpose, and I like how it looked. And I said, monet, you could just say it was an. Money goes, no, I love it. I love this look. I did this on purpose and I want to look like this.

[Monet X Change]

And so that was a vid I did that day. Now, Bob, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then Monet did it for, like, another.

[Monet X Change]

True.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet is true.

[Monet X Change]

A week. I was walking over panties.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At least two more shows, which would be about a week at that time, because you weren't doing that many shows at the time. So Monet was walking around with her panties pulled down. So first of all, Monet walked around the whole bar that night with her panties pulled down, like. And she kept being like, do you guys like my new look? And she was calling attention to it, like, yeah. And people were like, ah, so. And then. I swear, I'm not making this up for, like, another week of show, which, like two or three more shows, Monet would pull her panties. And I think she would. When I would text her and say, I'm coming, I think you would put the panties on and pull them down on purpose.

[Monet X Change]

So we're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, I would agree.

[Monet X Change]

The thing happened, the panties were I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Called my panties down, and I was.

[Monet X Change]

Like, oh, yeah, like, doing a bit. I was like, yeah, I like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is what I want to do. And I was, yes.

[Monet X Change]

But the whereabout the story is Askew is about I did it for the rest of the week. I did not do it for the rest of the week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did I caught you at another gig. And I was like, why this still got her panties down? Because that's the kind of this does. She's like, no, I love it. I love it. It's great. I meant to do it. And it's. And it's sickening. But also, when they does this with stuff all the time, Monet does this stuff all like. Like, so Monet has a stylist named Taylor who Y' all hear me? Go, Taylor. That's Taylor. So Taylor tried to give it to Monet to wear socks with loafers.

[Monet X Change]

No, it was socks with these Gucci sandals. He's like, these, like, sandals.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Monet was like, I hate that. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

No, see, you're ringtail asking here what it was. They're trying to get me to do it on the Traders.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Taylor come in here and say, taylor, come, come, come about. Oh, he gone.

[Monet X Change]

Is Taylor there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's probably working.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no. Yeah. Taylor and Patrick trying to get me to do it on the Traders. I was like, I'm not doing this on the Traders. I was like, this isn't gonna look. I was like, it's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, I'm not going on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

TV and wearing this. Go into Jacob's mic and tell your your perspective of the socks with this slide.

[Monet X Change]

Go ahead, Taylor. What happened was. Huh? We suggested that you wear socks with loafers. You said no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You hated it.

[Monet X Change]

You never said anything about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

It was or not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Patty was the sandals. I was the loafers. No, because you saw scissors references and you were like, that's not me. Cut to cut two. A month later, fully socks of Mary. First of all, I've worn. What y' all wanted me to do was wear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Taylor was trying to get me to wear those goddamn Mary Janes. And you thought showing me a picture of Sza wearing the socks of Mary Janes would convince me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I said, which you probably would.

[Monet X Change]

No. And I said. And I said, no, I don't want to do the socks of Mary Janes. And you're like, girl, it'll be cute. I was like, no, I don't want to do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, does that sound true, Taylor? Is Monet saying is the truth.

[Monet X Change]

I think Some details were left out. I think that she would wear Mary Janes and socks, so it would be cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when I was at this. When I was at the Kensington Martin Sza concert, I sent one of these pictures of Sza wearing these flats, and I could not stand them. I could not stand. And then Monet was like, they're actually kind of cute.

[Monet X Change]

They're cute on Sza.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like. And I was like, monet's gonna end up fucking wearing these motherfucking flats.

[Monet X Change]

No, I can't. First of all, my feet are too wide to wear those Mary Jane ballet flats. Like, my feet are too big for those. If I wore those, it would look insane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like when the pop girlies don't wanna wear heels, they wear boots. Yeah. Because I love when they put, like, if you're not gonna wear the heels, wear the boots.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, Beyonce does a little scooty heel now. She's also a woman of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When do you call a woman. Not this. When does a woman become a woman of a certain age? No.

[Monet X Change]

Of a particular age?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it depends on what she's doing. If you're a stripper, you become a woman of a certain age at, like, 40. If you're a teacher, you become a woman of a certain age of, like, 60.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you're a politician, it's like 150.

[Monet X Change]

If you're a pop star, if you're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A rue girl, I believe you're a woman of a certain age at, like, 37. No. If you're on the show. No.

[Monet X Change]

So if a rude girl is over 37. To show you, like, she's a woman of. She's a queen. No, because drag queens sometimes transcend time. Even Bianca did ri on her season. She was what, 40? I would not say Bianca.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was not 40.

[Monet X Change]

How old was Bianca in a season?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, 30.

[Monet X Change]

I would not say Bianca was a woman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That can't be right. That can't be right.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bianca's 50 now, so.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, so she's probably, like, 38. 39.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus Christ. How long ago is this? Bianca was on Drag race.

[Monet X Change]

She's at 67.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bianca was. Bianca's 50.

[Jacob]

It says Bianca was 39 when she was 39.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

I would not call Bianca a queen of a certain age, but I think Charlie. I'm saying Charlie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kyle Hyde is a very certain.

[Monet X Change]

I would say it's Charlie Kirk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Charlie Kirk was not on Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

But Charlie Hides was, and I. I will call Charlie Hides a woman of a certain age.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Charlie Hides is dead. Charlie Hides is older than Michelle.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Charlie is the only contestant on Drag Race in America that's been older than Michelle.

[Monet X Change]

So there should people. We should be nice to her. Maybe she couldn't dance in that song because she's. She's an older. Like, she.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think he should be nice. Charlotte Hyde's.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, she did that racist thing you were telling me about, and then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did a whole thing with me and Jacob, and she's. I don't. I don't. I don't. Yeah, she did Laquisha Jones, and then she was trying to come for me and Jacob because we. We've met on Grindr, and you guys don't even know how to. I was like, get. And then she DM me about it.

[Monet X Change]

And did she apologize?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Do you want to read the DM to us?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can read the dm. Is this shady? Yes.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's not shady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She said to me, and she's now probably gonna get another DM at some point. Girl.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think she's still around. She still do stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's alive.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but I don't think she's around like, in the community.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They got blocked work. Yeah, I've been blocked. Is it Charlie with a Y?

[Monet X Change]

No, I think it's an I. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, E. Charlie Hides. Oh, I'm definitely blocked. Oh, my God. I got. Wait, you check.

[Jacob]

I just sent it to you on Instagram, so if you're blocked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, there she is. The DM says. I've been informed that you talked about Laquisha Jones on a podcast. I'm willing to discuss the character at any time or forum, public or private, and we'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. All the best. Charlie and I did not respond to that work. Hey, Bob, I'm not sure if you will see this, but I just wanted to share the following view you recently tagged in one of my posts. The above open letter was originally posted on my Instagram account in 2019. It looks like the posts have been taken down.

[Monet X Change]

Or maybe they're so old you can't. You can't view them anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cannot load him. I mean, maybe, but. Yeah, it was. It was me about talking about Lucia Jones, her blackface character.

[Monet X Change]

How did you find this character? You just stumbled on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It just came from there. And people was like, did you know that Charlie Hyde has the blackface character she used to do, named Lucretia Jones?

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Then she had to rebrand her as a wigger.

[Monet X Change]

Charlie Hy was on rewriting Lucia herself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Laquisha as a wigger.

[Monet X Change]

God, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She just stopped painting herself. She just stopped paying herself black. But she was still doing.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then. But then it kind of became, like, white trashy. It was very interesting, but I. I did not respond to her text.

[Monet X Change]

Well, this is the end of the episode. And Charlie Hines, if you want to say something again, you can go on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet talks.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, talk to. Monet talks about Laquisha Jones, and you have to dress up as Lucia Jones to do the episode. Would you really have her to talk about her blackface? Yeah, that'd be great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In blackface.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Oh, my God. It would be great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You show up in whiteface and be like, hello.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, that's what Tyra Sanchez or James hates me because I did the Grace Jones whiteface. That started circling again. People were like, ugh. Monet wants to be white so bad. She painted herself in white face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, I can't. You have been skin bleaching.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I'm saying it's not noticeable.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All you have to do is take a picture of Monet on Drag Race and put it next to her right now, and you'll notice that she's several shades.

[Monet X Change]

It's not that noticeable, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't do it that often.

[Monet X Change]

People would know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. Look at your palms. You have white people palms. Put it up here.

[Monet X Change]

You do this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just. I remember one day just being so gagged at how white your palms were.

[Monet X Change]

You do this once a year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It never not get. This is our last shot. Oh, my.

[Monet X Change]

No, girl, we are the same color.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. Our palms are literally not the same. Like, slightly different Monet. Our palms are not the same color. Kim, do these palms look the same color to you?

[Monet X Change]

Slightly different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Monet is whiter. Mine is darker. All right, bye, everyone.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know why my palms are so white.

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