The One About Pageants with Trinity the Tuck

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: The One About Pageants with Trinity the Tuck

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen (Bob absent in this episode)
Guest: Trinity the Tuck
Date: July 17, 2023

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Episode Overview

This riotous episode of Sibling Rivalry features Monét X Change in conversation with special guest Trinity the Tuck, diving deeply (and hilariously) into the wild world of drag pageants, body modification in drag culture, and the nuanced realities behind the glitz and glam. Though Bob the Drag Queen is not present, Monét and Trinity’s chemistry makes for a fast-paced, revealing, and hysterically candid discussion on everything from “the art of tucking” to pageant politics, drag salaries, surgical journeys, gender identity, and infamous pageant tea.

Trigger warning: The first 25 minutes feature graphic discussion of surgery and bodily procedures, including silicone injections and post-operative care.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Art & Pain of Tucking (01:49–05:56)

• Monét’s Tucking Mishap: Monét recounts her disastrous first attempt at tape tucking during Drag Race Season 10, using duct tape, which sweatily failed on the runway.
  • Quote: “They had to blur my Runway on season 10 because my dick and the tape were just fully out. No, embarrassing. I can’t watch it.” – Monét (02:29)
• Trinity’s Nightmare: Trinity shares her own long hours of tucking on Drag Race, which led to physical reactions and the horror of thinking she’d contracted an STD—only to learn she was allergic to duct tape (03:46).
  • Quote: “It looked like a horror movie down there, girl.” – Trinity (03:49)
• Pro Tuck Tips: Trinity now uses “boat tape”, a stretchy vinyl preferred by pros, and discusses the evolution of tucking techniques and gear among drag queens.

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Body Confidence, Rumors, & The BBL Gossip (06:19–07:08)

• Monét Addresses Body Modification Rumors: Dispels the rumor started by drag queen Meatball that she had a BBL (Brazilian Butt Lift), clarifying she only did minor lipo.
• Blocking Drama on Drag Scene: Both Trinity and Monét discuss whom they’ve blocked on social media and playfully call Trinity "Trinity to Blockers," famous for blocking people, including other RuPaul’s Drag Race queens (06:48).

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Drag & Pageant Royalty – Legends, Stories, and Hierarchies (07:46–12:14)

• Pageant Legends: Trinity details the legacy of Tamisha Iman as a drag and pageant icon, sharing how she inspired generations, including Trinity’s own drag mother (08:04).
  • Quote: “She’s an icon. My drag mother. She is my drag mother’s inspiration for drag.” – Trinity (08:04)
• Experiences Competing in Pageants: Trinity talks about her time at Miss US of A, being “sent to the audience,” and observing queens like Alyssa Edwards and Bebe Zahara Benet (08:46).
• Pageant Types: Monét and Trinity discuss interest in different major titles such as Miss Continental, Miss US of A, and Miss Black Universe, highlighting the intense competition and barriers for Drag Race alumni (09:42–11:14).

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Double-edged Fame: Drag Race Stars in the Pageant World (10:51–12:14)

• The Side-Eye for Drag Race Queens: They candidly discuss how pageant judges can be less favorable to queens who’ve achieved TV fame, citing stories of Silky Nutmeg Ganache, Alexis Mateo, Trinity K. Bonet, and Kennedy Davenport (10:51–12:14).

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Age, Surgery, and Altering Bodies (12:54–17:12)

• Drag Aging and Surgical Trends: Trinity and Monét joke about their ages and the realities of how cosmetic surgery, including facelifts and fillers, are integral in drag and trans communities. Trinity shares details on her own cosmetic journey and the science of threads and fillers (13:01, 14:25).
  • Quote: “Doctors suggest you get a facelift in your 40s rather than wait till your 50s and 60s, because it’s less of a drastic change and your body can heal faster.” – Trinity (13:11)

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The Perils of Illegal Silicone (17:12–21:16)

• Cautionary Tales: The hosts go deep on the dangers of illegal silicone injections in the community, with graphic details about recovery, complications, and even deaths from silicone poisoning (19:20–21:16).
  • Notable Story: Monét’s vivid account of nursing her friend Jasmine post-silicone removal:
    • “I am nursing this fucking bitch after she got, like, eight pounds of her ass taken out. I’m draining her thing… on the same day, the doctor was like, she should not walk for the entire day… and the blood is leaking all over the floor.” – Monét (20:09–20:52)
  • Trinity stresses: “Do not be stupid. Don’t use. There are so many other options. Better to have no ass than no life.” (21:16)

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Drag Economics & Lack of Pay Equity (21:38–27:39)

• The Realities of Club Pay: Local bar queens are still earning the same rates as decades ago; Monét and Trinity rail against stagnant pay and call for better compensation and tipping (22:14–23:27).
  • “You local bar owners, pay these fucking bitches more money. Yes, pay them more money.” – Monét (23:16)
• Drag Queen Unions: They fantasize about a drag queen union to protect performer rights on gigs and TV/film sets and note that Willem is one of the few pushing this issue (26:44–27:12).

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Pageant Preparation, Fashion, and Real-World Advice (27:45–29:45)

• Cost of Competing: The hosts discuss how financial privilege allows Drag Race queens to prepare rapidly and thoroughly for pageants, while locals must save and fundraise (28:05).

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Pageant Q&A Practice (30:20–36:14)

• Mock Pageant Q&A: Jacob, the Q&A Host, joins to deliver a series of bona fide pageant questions, revealing both earnest and playful side of pageant performances.
  • Standout: Trinity’s classic, self-aware answer:
    • “Trinity Taylor is a very creative, pumped, overfilled, beautifully beautiful entertainer from Alabama who barely graduated. Hooked on phonics did work for me. And why should I be Miss Continental? Because I have gowns, beautiful gowns.” (31:31–32:28)
• Pageant Strategy: They reveal the importance of sponsors, repetition of name and number, and the theatrics of Q&A (32:43–33:13).

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Shady Pageant Antics (37:37–38:20)

• Legendary Pageant Sabotages: From glass in powder and razor blades on gowns to real-life stories of sabotage—like an entire event being evacuated due to pepper spray in the vents after a queen’s entourage became disgruntled.
  • Quote: “They sprayed pepper spray into the vents so the entire event had to get evacuated.” – Trinity (38:20)

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Is Pageantry Worth It? (On Investments and Rewards) (38:49–40:11)

• Cost vs. Prize Money: Queens invest tens of thousands but often compete for much less in prize money. Some major pageants now pay $10k, but much of the payout is prestige (39:05–40:11).
  • Quote: “The payoff from winning the pageant is sometimes so much smaller than what you spend to do the pageant.” – Monét (39:05)

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Gender Identity & Transition in Drag (41:45–47:03)

• Intimate Trans/Non-binary Discussion: Both hosts reflect on their personal identities—Trinity shares her sense of being trans (without fully identifying as a trans woman due to lived experience), and Monét affirms their non-binary identity:
  • Trinity: “I fully feel like I’m trans. I would never claim to be a trans woman because I’ve never lived that experience.” (41:45)
  • Monét: "Now I do identify as a non-binary person, which is of a trans experience...I don’t feel that I’m a trans woman.” (43:42–44:14)
• Passing, Dysphoria, and Comfort: Both reveal struggles with appearance, thinking about FFS (facial feminization surgery), and discuss their comfort levels out of drag.
  • Trinity: “I want to get my cheeks removed… see like after a facelift how I feel. Because I do feel like I look better now in drag than I did even like season nine era.” (43:05–43:20)

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Drag Social Life, Aspirations, Fashion, and Collaboration (48:22–64:00)

• Breast Surgery “What Ifs”: Hilarious debate on ideal breast sizes, the dream of carefree beauty, and fantasizing about everyday “titty” outfits (47:52–48:46).
• Halloween Plans & Iconic Looks: Plans for joint Halloween photo shoots and mimicking famous figures in drag culture (51:40–52:21).
• Drag Race All Stars Winners “Twin” Title Reflection: An inside look at being “twin” winners, the aftermath of their shared All Stars 4 crown, and behind-the-scenes production stories (52:44–54:08).
• RuPaul’s Drag Race Franchise Musings: Commentary on winners being overlooked in official challenges and speculation about World of Wonder’s relationships with past winners like Alaska and Chad (55:17–58:11).
• Future of Competing and Representation: Both express love for competition but agree there’s little left to achieve on Drag Race, unless future editions involved charity or drag families (59:08–60:13).
  • Quote: “I love to compete. I would go back if it was for charity.” – Trinity (59:08)
• Drag at the Met Gala & Exclusion from High Fashion: Both lament how, despite connections, drag artists struggle to be truly integrated into mainstream high fashion events compared to celebrities (62:04–63:22).
  • Quote: “I want to go to the Met Gala. That sounds so fun. I just want to see what happens.” – Monét (62:07)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Monét on tucking fail:
  • “They had to blur my Runway on season 10 because my dick and the tape were just fully out. No, embarrassing. I can't watch it.” (02:29)
• Trinity’s pageant resilience:
  • “I have competed six times over 10 years. They better give me every fucking category.” (36:21)
• On the pain for drag art:
  • “It looked like a horror movie down there, girl.” – Trinity (03:49)
• On sabotage in drag:
  • “They sprayed pepper spray into the vents so the entire event had to get evacuated.” – Trinity (38:20)
• On Drag Race pay:
  • “You local bar owners, pay these fucking bitches more money.” – Monét (23:16)
• On gender identity:
  • “I fully feel like I’m trans. I would never claim to be a trans woman because I’ve never lived that experience.” – Trinity (41:45)
  • “Now I do identify as a non-binary person, which is of a trans experience… I don’t feel that I’m a trans woman.” – Monét (43:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Tucking & Tape Drama: 01:49–05:56
• Body Modification & Rumors: 06:19–07:08
• Drag/Pageant Legends & Pageant World: 07:46–12:14
• Drag Race Stars in Pageantry: 10:51–12:14
• Surgery, Fillers & Aging: 12:54–17:12
• Silicone Injection Stories: 17:12–21:16
• Club Pay & Drag Economics: 21:38–27:12
• Unionizing Drag: 26:44–27:39
• Pageant Prep & Privilege: 27:45–29:45
• Q&A Mock Pageant: 30:20–36:14
• Pageant Sabotage & Shenanigans: 37:37–38:20
• Identity & Transition: 41:45–47:03
• Reflecting on Fame & Winning: 52:44–54:08, 59:08–60:13
• Fashion/Met Gala Exclusion: 62:04–63:22

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Closing Thoughts

Monét and Trinity’s conversation brings unparalleled candor and comedy to the realities of drag and pageant life. They balance unflinching honesty about the hardships—including body risks, industry prejudice, and gender anxieties—with the glittering celebration of sisterhood, survival, and drag excellence. The episode is both an education in drag culture and a love letter to the resilience and resourcefulness of queer artists.

Memorable Sign-off:

Monét: “Peace, y’all.”
Trinity: “Go subscribe to their Patreon and give these bitches some money. Yes. Because she needs to have her one eyebrow raised.” (64:37–64:47)

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Perfect for:
Anyone interested in the world behind the queens—pageant hopefuls, Drag Race fans, and those needing a dose of brutal, side-splitting drag honesty.

Transcript

[Trinity the Tuck]

Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax. And let go of whatever you're carrying today.

[1-800-Contacts Customer]

Well, I'm letting go of the worry

[Trinity the Tuck]

that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class.

[1-800-Contacts Customer]

I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And breathe. Oh, sorry.

[1-800-Contacts Customer]

I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order.

[Monet X Change]

1-800-contacts.

[1-800-Contacts Customer]

Hey, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All, we talk a lot about some gory stuff. So this is a little trigger warning if you're sensitive to that kind of stuff. Fast forward to 25 minutes in. Again, we talk about some bloody stuff and it gets a little yucky. So if you're sensitive to that, please Fast forward to 25 minutes. My name is Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm Monet X Change. And this is simply rivalry.

[Trinity the Tuck]

On this episode. We talk about illegal silicone, we talk all about pageants. And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry about she ruined my sponge mat that kimchi bought me for my birthday. And we find out what made Trinity say this.

[Trinity the Tuck]

They sprayed pepper spray into the vents so the entire event had to get evacuated.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my goodness. Do not adjust your camera. Oh, that is. Bob did not lose 120 pounds. That is the legendary Trinity the Tuck.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Hi. I'm so excited to be here as Bob the Tuck.

[Monet X Change]

Bob the Tuck. You know, I don't think Bob has ever. He's never tape tucked before.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Really?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And I tried it once on season 10 and it did not go well. Cause I'm like a sweaty girl. And it was on the glitterific Runway and I was like, you know what? I'm on Drag Race. I'm gonna try tape talking for the first time. First of all, I used duct tape.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, okay. That's probably your first mistake.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. And it was really rough. And then so I taped myself and I thought it was going well. And then as I was like. As we're like waiting to walk down the Runway, I'm like sweating and sweating. And as I'm walking, the tape was just unsticking. And if you. That's why they had to blur my Runway on season 10 because my dick and the tape were just fully out. No embarrassing. I can't watch it. You got.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You gotta. There's prep to it. You have to use like rubbing alcohol to get like, any residue or sweat, you know, you know, cancer causing products like spray adhesive to make sure that it doesn't come off like that.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Season nine, we were film. You know, we filmed for so many hours on the Runway.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And I did so many naked look on the Runway. My. Can I say penis? You get dick, pussy, balls. My. My penis was like taped so long every day I started to get black welps. I fully thought that I had an STD the whole time I was filming season nine. And. And this is like right around the. That Eureka, basically, also known as Eureka, gets. Gets eliminated for an injury. And I'm like, I'm not telling them that my dick is falling off. I'm keeping this to myself, girl. No. And so I went to the doctor as soon as we got done filming. I. Because it was that way the whole time. And I had to tape over that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Trinity the Tuck]

It was.

[Monet X Change]

It was bad.

[Trinity the Tuck]

It looked like a horror movie down there, girl. I was like, oh. But I went to a doctor as soon as I got back to Florida, and they were like, no, you don't have an std, but you are allergic to duct tape. And I was like, well, I'm never. I've never been allergic. But they're like, if you. If you're doing it so often.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And so now you use vinyl tape.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Now I use. It's called. It's called boat tape. It has. It's like a vinyl that has like

[Monet X Change]

a stretch to a stretch to a boat tape.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm guessing. I mean, someone's going to call me, like, no one. Are you fucking dumb, bitch? But they use it to, like, to steal boats or something.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Girl, I am not butch. I don't know. You better ask a lesbian, a lesbatarian or something.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Voltage. Can you see what voltaic is actually used for? That's good. That's going to be very interesting. Yeah. Naomi. Naomi was also. I don't think Naomi tapes tape tucks anymore. A lot of queens just use. Now just use. Wear really tight gaffs.

[Trinity the Tuck]

See, I. I even use a gaff unless I'm doing something that won't let me wear one.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Because it's too revealing.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Right. But I always feel like when I'm just doing that, like a ball is going to pop out or something.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. And it's happened to me. There's so many. There's so much footage that y' all love tagging me and be like, girl, we see you. I'm like, I don't care.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You're chewing gum.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like, chewing gum.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That's what People say looks like. Look like chewing gum.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, it absolutely happened. I'm like, whatever. Like, I'm a drag. I'm not also. I just. I never really wear outfits like that.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That.

[Monet X Change]

As revealing.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Well, I don't know, Ms. Body, you over here looking snatched. I don't know what you. What you eating or what you not eating, but you're starting take over my tagline, so I assume that you will be wearing. So if you need me to make you a couple of thong outfits, I'd be happy.

[Monet X Change]

God, I just don't know if I can.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yes, you can. I should make you your first outfit. Your first naked outfit should be like a slingshot.

[Monet X Change]

Slingshot, you said. Oh, my God, Trinity.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

I just don't think I possess that.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yes, you do.

[Monet X Change]

Just the confidence, though. Like, it. It takes a certain type of bitch to, like, come out in a slingshot on one of them things, which you have, and you look fucking great, and it just. I don't know if I have that yet.

[Trinity the Tuck]

What? What? You got to get out this mindset that, first of all, you could have wore it before you got to the size that you are. You could. You could have wore then because you care. You were very proportionate all over big old thighs and all. You could definitely wear that. You should. Yeah. Work on your confidence. I know. I know, because you are beautiful. Your body is you. I wish I had your body.

[Monet X Change]

Your legs. I. I do. I do have thick legs there. People always like, oh, like, oh, Monet got a bbl. Fucking meatball started this goddamn rumor that I got a bbl. I'm like, no, I did not get a bbl. I just got a little fat taken out. I did not get a bbl.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I love meatball.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, y' all not.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, no, she's fine. I just had to block her. But, you know, who. Who. Who have I blocked on social media?

[Monet X Change]

Trinity will the. We call you Trinity to blockers. Trinity will block the shit out of people.

[Trinity the Tuck]

There's probably at least 4,5 ru girls that I blocked.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

At least I blocked.

[Monet X Change]

I blocked 2 and 1. I unblocked because we. So, I mean, I blocked y' all know who the other one is from season 10, so. But then I blocked Tamisha Mon after because she had a whole scandal with me involved on her season because she thought that we were really being mean to her. And then I met her in person at DragCon. Whatever. The DragCon after her season was 2021. Whatever it was.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I was there. I was standing right beside you.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Right. When I.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

And then I. And then we met and she was like.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Like nothing had happened.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And I was like, bygones be bygones. She was like, yeah, girl. And then that was it. And I was like, all of that for that. You know what I mean?

[Trinity the Tuck]

We was. I was hoping there was going to be a smackdown.

[Monet X Change]

I mean. I mean, I was ready to have a smackdown with Pull the colostomy bag.

[Trinity the Tuck]

There's going to be going down, literally.

[Monet X Change]

But she was very nice and she was very sweet.

[Trinity the Tuck]

She's an icon.

[Monet X Change]

I. We see what say I'm not. So I'm not from that world. So I seem to know. And no shade. It's not anything shady. I didn't know about Tamisha Iman.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Or the Iman defiantly Dynasty. Like, I didn't even know that bitch that came down from the ceiling was Iman. I didn't know that until they said on Drag herself. I didn't know. But you. You know her from pageant world.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yes. So, yeah, she's an icon. My drag mother. She is my drag mother's inspiration for drag because she's. She's back in the day, like, in the. The 90s. She was like, very ahead of her time with fashion and, like, pageantry. She's an amazing dancer. She was the one of the queens that would always come out with a huge dance troupe and like, just. Just obliterate it, really. Oh, just obliterate. She's won pretty much everything.

[Monet X Change]

Tamisha has.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Tamisha. She's won so many. So, so many national titles.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Work.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And yeah, she's. She's an icon in. In the pageant world. Like, I would. I've competed against her and she obviously, she beat me.

[Monet X Change]

Really? Yeah. Well.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Well, actually, no, I haven't competed against her. The year that I did US of A. The first time was when I competed with Alyssa and Bebe Zohar Benet. Bebe made it to the top five. That was the year that Alyssa won. Tamisha crowned Alyssa and girl. I didn't even make the top 10 girl. They sent me to the audience.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't know that Bebe did pageant.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Bebe's in Harbornet.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. I don't know that she's like a. Like a big pageant queen, but she's done several. Yeah, she. She's gotten very close to several major pageants. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

You know, we talked about this before. Like, I would. I am interested in doing a pageant. Like, I would like to really, like, for real, like, do all the things. Do the Preliminaries and, like, legitimately do, like, a Miss Continental or Miss US Of A. Yep. Or the other one, Miss Black Universe.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. Oh, I would like, if you. If you would do Miss Black Universe, let me tell you. Okay, so I know all my histories of all my pageants. Universe, which is what most people call it, but it's Miss Black Universe is the epitome of pageantry because it is a fashion pageant, and they always have an incredibly long, thick Runway. So, like, when you model everything you're modeling for, it seems like days, really. And it's like. And. And when I tell you the girls do not play, the boys don't play either.

[Monet X Change]

Like, okay, there's a Mr. Black, Mr. Universe as well.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And it is like a fashion pageant. It is, like, to me, the most iconic pageant, really. Because I love a good look.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you do.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And. And. And it's all of their looks. Every look is they have sportswear because so.

[Monet X Change]

So sportswear. They do that instead of swimwear in this one. Right, Got it.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Sportswear, evening wear, presentation is always white, I believe. Do, like, incredible, like, costumey gowns. Like, just incredible look. You should really look into it.

[Monet X Change]

See? But I just don't know, like, I would be so intimidated by these girls because, again, these. These are like, people who, like, are. Are, like, they do pageants all the time. I would be so green, so new to it. And then I've also heard this tea that once you are in Drag Race, like, the judges, like, you get a lot of side eye and you. And, like, they kind of not give you maybe as good a scores as you would have because you've already been on Drag Race. You have exposure.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I think that's true. I think the year that. The last time that Silky Alexis. Well, silky is a good example, too. Alexis Mato did us of a several, several, several years ago after she was on Drag Race, and I think she was first or second runner up. I thought as a spectator, I didn't see her interview, but for everything else I saw, I thought she won. So I think that. I think it is true. I think that once you get on the show, like. Like Trinity K. Bonet has done a lot of pageants since, and they've denied her.

[Monet X Change]

Her.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Her flowers. Silky.

[Monet X Change]

I've seen some of Trinity's performances. She. She really.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, she really shuts it down completely.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Kennedy is another great example. Although she did win us of a after she was on Drag Race after season finally, though.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. Because she had done it for lot.

[Trinity the Tuck]

But I thought. I thought she could have won several other times.

[Monet X Change]

Kennedy Davenport. I remember the last time I saw Kennedy Davenport, I was on Work the World, and we were in Dallas or something. And Kennedy is one of those people. Like, first of all, we've all seen Kennedy. Like, Kennedy is an amazing fucking performer. But, like, the minutes leading up to before she gets on the stage, like, Kennedy comes into the venue, like, to get ready, and she is, like, limping. Her body hurts. She's like, oh, girl, I just don't know. And then, bitch, as soon as she's walking on that stage.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Well, you know, she's not young. I know she's not. She looks like.

[Monet X Change]

She looks great.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, she looks like she would be young, but, yeah, she's not young. So to think. I don't know how old she is, but she's all. She's definitely older than me. I'm. I'll be 40 next year, so.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yes. So to think she's doing all these back flips and splits. I turned 39 in December. Yes, ma'.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Am.

[Trinity the Tuck]

So in. In one year, almost, I will be 40.

[Monet X Change]

Girl, you look great. I didn't. I thought we were the same age.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I want a facelift now.

[Monet X Change]

You do you really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

I do. I want that. I'm just like, cut off this. Actually, you know, doctors suggest you to get facelift if you're going to get a facelift to get it in your 40s rather than wait till you're in your 50s and 60s, because it's less of a drastic change and your body can heal faster.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, let me show you what I want to do. You ready? So I want to do, like a slight. So you see how this I'm trying to do. So you see how this eye is like this and this eye is a little hooded. I want to do this just to make them even.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You don't need that.

[Monet X Change]

I do. I do. Y' all see that? You see this?

[Trinity the Tuck]

You don't need that.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I do.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You're saying you have a hooded eye and you don't have a hooded eye, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but look, look.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You could do that with Botox to make this not. Yes, they inject it, like, right at your brow, and it lifts your brow.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

I'm telling you. Go, girl. I know everything. What are you talking about? Altering body. I know all about that.

[Monet X Change]

So just Botox.

[Trinity the Tuck]

They will fix Botox also try. They. They have wire, string, wire the threads. I've done that recently, too. Oh, it was thick. Thing I hadn't done. I would say two years, but it turns to collagen. So they're not. It's not. They're biodegradable threads. They're not like, wi.

[Monet X Change]

Like wire.

[Trinity the Tuck]

No, no, no. It turns to collagen. So it helps make your actual collagen start again.

[Monet X Change]

So those. Those of you don't know. I've heard his process. I've had a few friends have done it, and they. How do they get them in?

[Trinity the Tuck]

So it's from the side, and it. You. First of all, it. It sounds awful. It's crunchy.

[Monet X Change]

You can hear it.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You can hear it. And you can. Because they numb you. You can feel the pressure of it, girl. Because I have silicone in my cheeks. You should have seen this little doctor. He was getting up on top of a chair to try to jab these wires in the side of my cheeks, trying to get through all this plastic, literally, like, silicone. And, like, at one point, I don't. I can't remember which side he was trying to shove it in. And it was not going. I was like, oh, my God. What is. What have I done? I have finally done it. I. I'm gonna have. I'm gonna have paralysis in my face, Bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Jacob is gagging. Jacob. Cat. Jacob can't even take it. Oh, my God.

[Trinity the Tuck]

But that might be an option for you. You know, I do encourage threads.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, what's the name? Blac. Chyna.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Huh. She just had all that removed.

[Monet X Change]

She got it all dissolved and stuff.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I think she looks the same.

[Monet X Change]

I think she does, too. I mean, people are like, look at the difference. I mean, there's, like, a slight difference, but she looks.

[Trinity the Tuck]

What it is, is she's not wearing the same kind of makeup. She's wearing natural makeup. She's beautiful. Yeah, she's beautiful.

[Monet X Change]

And so, like, people don't realize that the power makeup, honestly. Well, we know the power of makeup. You know what? Let's take a break. We'll talk about the power makeup in the break. Obviously, we're drag queens. We know the. The power of makeup to transform. And sometimes when these people be looking crazy, they just are doing a lot. They're just changing their makeup. That's all.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, like, look at a drag queen. Like, you're using highlight and contours to shape your face. Well, that's what celebrities are doing. Literally. That's what black ch. Sinus does.

[Monet X Change]

Literally.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

All that eyeliner she does. I mean, her lips are huge. I. I think that was a lot of filler, too.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she. I think she. She got that Taken out.

[Trinity the Tuck]

She did. She got a lot of her filler out. I think, though, like, when you get. See, I haven't had actual filler in my face since I got this, because this is not the biodegradable. This is like the permanent. Don't ever do it, kids. But I. I'm not.

[Monet X Change]

Would you not do it again?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, no, I would never do more filler. I don't want filler. I would actually. I have had some of my lips taken out, really, like, surgically, and I want to have some of my cheek taken out. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And then when you take it out, would you put more filler into.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I guess it would depend on if I look like Freddy Krueger or not, you know? Is she looking scary then? Yes, I would. But. But the right stuff, you know.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know my friend Jasmine Rice Labasia, huh? Who is. If you all know Jasmine, if you go on her Instagram, look at her old video, because she. Jasmine, she got. She got a bbl.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, her body looked great.

[Monet X Change]

She wasn't happy with it, really. So she got a recommendation for silicone. She got, like, a couple rounds of silicone injection. Yes. And then. But, I mean, Jazz. Jasmine wants to look like she, like, I want to look like an alien. I want to look like otherworldly. Like, I want my proportions. My bodies look crazy. What she did, her ass was. I mean, it was like. It was. This is her back. This is her. It was crazy. And then it started to, like, discolor her cheeks, and it started to, like, seep into other organs.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That probably was not the right stuff.

[Monet X Change]

But is that all not the right stuff?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Well, yes, but. But, like, there. Yes. Never put any of that in your body. I do not advocate for back alleys,

[Monet X Change]

but yours was great, though.

[Trinity the Tuck]

But I. I got. I was lucky. Like, I would never say somebody. I get asked all the time, who did your ass? Who did your ass? I do not suggest that. I do not tell anybody. I would never suggest that. It's just not what you do. I was very young and stupid and, you know, back then, that's what trans women did. And I went to the. To the quote, unquote doctor.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

With this trans woman who was encouraging me to do it because that's what they need to do.

[Monet X Change]

I have. I have a lot of friends, and.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And so that's what we did back then. But nowadays there's so many more options.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And. But there is a difference, because you can. What I got was called medical grade silicone, which is what they use in, like, breasts and stuff like that. But it's encapsulated with, like, the bag. Yeah, with a bag.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

But there are other substances that people put in your body that can destroy tissue, which is what happened if it's discolored.

[Monet X Change]

So she has to get that removed. And so she. She's like. She calls me. She's like, hey, Monet, I'm coming to la. I want to know if I can stay with you. I was like, sure. It's like, I'm just going to get a little procedure done. I was like, okay. Like, for bitch. I was fully her fucking doctor.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Like, no.

[Monet X Change]

Like, she got there and she's like, going to my. She was like, okay, so do you mind coming to pick me up when I go to pick her up? Because I'm like, oh, maybe. Because if you can get you, like, your tooth pulled, you have to get someone to come pick you up. Cause they need to drive. So I'm going to the hospital, to the doctor's office in Beverly Hills to pick her up. And he's like, okay, here's this and that and the other. She has these drains. Need to make sure you do that. She also has a catheter. We need you to drain her. Like, I was like, a catheter? Yes.

[1-800-Contacts Customer]

What?

[Trinity the Tuck]

What in the world?

[Monet X Change]

This is her fucking knocker. So she's at my house, on my fucking couch in my living room, and I am nursing this fucking bitch after she got, like, eight pounds of her ass taken out. And I'm like, nursing her back to help. And I'm like, every three hours, I'm draining her thing. No, emptying out her catheter into the toilet. And then on the same day, the doctor was like, she should not walk for the entire day.

[Trinity the Tuck]

But, like.

[Monet X Change]

And this was like, in the morning at 10 o', clock, I pick her up. And then. And then by like, six o', clock, she's like, I really just need. I think I can walk to the bathroom. I was like, okay, somebody behind her walking to the bathroom. Girl. She's standing at the toilet. And when I tell you, she just starts to turn immediately pale and, like, blue. And Jasmine is an Asian woman, so, you know, she got a little color in her. But when I tell you, y', all, she was ghost pale. And I look down, the blood is leaking all over the floor. Because it was, like, rushing out because she wasn't supposed to stand up. Rushing out of her ass. And my entire Jacob and my entire ass. She ruined my sponge mat that kimchi bought me for my birthday. Because it was his blood all over my bath. I was like, jasmine, we have to get you back to the couch. We have to get you back to the couch.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And she's like, yeah, bleed on my couch, not my rug.

[Monet X Change]

So she had a little blood on my couch and. Oh, my God. So I would get her back to the couch, and now I'm cleaning up her blood with my bare hands on my floor. It was just insane. I'm a really good friend.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yes, you are. And you're also now a registered nurse.

[Monet X Change]

It was crazy, but, you know. But now she's better. I think they don't think she still has a nice. I'm like, just stay that way, girl. Don't do anything else.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Do not, people. Do not be stupid. Don't use. There are so many other options. And if. If you can't get it, it's better to have no ass than no life.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Because I know a lot of people who've had silicone put in, even in just their ass, and it gets in their bloodstream, and they get silicone poisoning and drop dead. Yeah, all.

[Monet X Change]

She just have a bigger ass or like some hips or something. That's crazy.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Well, you have to think a lot. In all, the ones that I know of are trans women. Yeah. Because like, back in the day, when you're trying to get, you know, you're a working drag queen, first of all, they still, to this day pay normal local drag queens same way they've been paid in the 80s, which is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I. I was. I was with. With some friends in New York.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Some.

[Monet X Change]

Some drag friends in New York. And I was like, like, yeah. So, like, you know. You know, the clubs must be paying more now. The clubs are still paying girls what I was getting paid when I first started drag.

[Trinity the Tuck]

What, what, what entertainers were getting paid before I even started drag, more than 20 years ago, the same amount. And that's why, you know, these, These trans women back then, how are they supposed to afford an actual surgery? They're. They're getting. They're doing what they need to do to feel comfortable in their body. And. And. And also, like pageant queens in general, like, that. You want to compete at Continental, which is. There's very few quote, unquote, boy queens who have won. It's mostly been trans women. So if you wanted to compete and you wanted to do well and you wanted to look like the doll, then you had to become the doll, which means you had to put yourself up on somebody's dining room table and get Pumped full of silicone. Wild girl crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So to all these, like, clubs, these, these bars, you pay these bitches more money. There's no reason why girls are still making $150, which is what I mean when I first started. Ten years later now, like, inflation.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You can't even buy a wig for that.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, y' all want these bitches to come with new looks and new wigs and do pay the girls these. You local bartender. I mean, bar owners. Pay these fucking bitches more money. Yes, pay them more money.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And tip.

[Monet X Change]

And tip. Yeah. You know, Well, I mean, so here's. I have a question. So, I mean, in New York city, it is not regular for like, actually, I'm gonna pee really quick and I'll be back. So I've been starting to drink more water. I'm making myself drink two of these a day.

[Trinity the Tuck]

What is just water?

[Monet X Change]

Just water. I'm just peeing all the time.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That's not tap water, is it?

[Monet X Change]

Absolutely not. I don't drink tap water.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, me either. You know, they just found like, so many forever chemicals in u. S. Tap water that, like, are cancer causing and stuff.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sure.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I'm like, I never like tap water. This is why I never drank it. My grandparents that raised me were, oh, tap water is fine. Absolutely not.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't do tap water.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That's why you died. That's why. I mean, not to be morbid, but like, seriously, like.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, well, they allegedly, New York city has good tap water.

[Trinity the Tuck]

They say, like, ain't nobody got good tap water. You better drink the spring water or some filter water, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. What was I saying? In New York city, like, it's customary for, like, a bar hires you and you, like, you do your gigs every week and like, you do multiple bars. But in the south, like, a bar will contract you, like, as like an employee. And you only work at that bar thing, right?

[Trinity the Tuck]

In Birmingham, where I'm from, there were two bars, two gay bars in the entire city. And if you worked at one, you did not work at the other. And they, they were, they were rivals. They're still kind of rivals to this day.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you do.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You do not cross over, honey.

[Monet X Change]

But do. Do they pay you? Like, how many shows you do a week?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Like, four.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Trinity the Tuck]

But like, so for a local queen, whenever I was there, I was making pretty good money. When I. At the height of my Birmingham pay, I was getting paid 175 a night work. Working four nights a week at A bar. But that was because me and two of the other bigger name drag queens in the city, Raquel Scott at the time, she doesn't really do drag anymore. And then one of my best friends, Obscenity, who now lives in Nashville. Yeah, yeah. So we were running this Ponzi scheme, bitch, where we. Because we. We were the cast. We were the dream cast of what? What the. All the bars. The two bars wanted. And we went between the two and, like, getting raises. The crowd would follow us.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

So.

[Monet X Change]

And right. Use your power.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. And so then this new bar opened, and they were like, well, we'll pay you $25 more a night. So that raised it from 150 to 175. So we went there, and within a month, that bar closed because they couldn't afford it.

[Monet X Change]

So y' all were like, girl.

[Trinity the Tuck]

So then the bar that we had left said, girl, they. They were like, well, we're not paying you that. We're not even going to pay you what you were getting paid before. If you want a job, you're going to get PA $100. So basically, almost half of what we were getting paid, we went back there, the next week, they closed because they were going bankrupt.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Trinity the Tuck]

So, bro, we were done. Girl, that was the end of the trio.

[Monet X Change]

But see, but. But y' all stuck together. That's why y' all have.

[Trinity the Tuck]

We did, we did, we did.

[Monet X Change]

Queens unionized. I think we. I mean, we've so many girls have talked about this, but it needs to be some type of drag queen union.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Like, there. She really should.

[Monet X Change]

They really should. For all these fucking movie sets and stuff. Like, there needs to be, like, a specific union for drag queens to protect our rights. When you go to these music videos, when you do these TV shows and all, like, we need to have that. We need to have that. And we keep on saying no one's done it. But, I mean, how do you. How.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I don't even know how that would even begin.

[Monet X Change]

Know how unions start either I'm too dumb. I don't know.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Same. The only other person I've heard bringing it up is Willem. She's too dumb, too. I love her.

[Monet X Change]

So what would tell me how like Willem. I mean, I don't know. I think Willem is pretty open about their thing, but Willem is like, like the madam of, like, Hollywood. Like, if you want a hooker, if you want.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, she knows it all.

[Monet X Change]

She knows all.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I love Willam. She knows everything. She knows everything about everybody.

[Monet X Change]

Everybody.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Girl, I don't know. And how she keeps and she. She spills a lot on her podcast, but even behind the scenes, she has more. I know she is a good friend, Bish, because she knows a lot of. About a lot of people.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, wait. We. We. We are. Let's get back to fashions. We. I just. I love this. We just saw everything. So pageant. So, I mean, if I were to do a Miss Continental, like, I'm g. I'm. I need to give myself, like, a year. I need to, like, prelim.

[Trinity the Tuck]

No. So, okay, so for a normal person, yes, you would need to give yourself a year. You are privileged because you have money.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And so this is true. If you have money, you can literally just get whatever you want together really last minute. So you. You. You know, designers, you could have a. The. A winning gown made. You could have as many dancers as you wanted immediately. You know, local queens have to, like, they have to raise funds throughout. They have to do benefit shows. They have to set aside money. We're lucky. So if we wanted to go and do a pageant in a month, we could literally have a winning package in a month. But I. Girl, I think you would slay a pageant. I think you are a pageant queen. You just never done. Wait, no, you did a pageant and.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I won the Miss Gay Caribbean, and I also won Miss Hell's Kitchen in New York. But no shade New York pageants. They are not like.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, but I still think there is a pageant queen under there.

[Monet X Change]

I feel like if I was. If. If I came up in the South, I think I would have been a pageant girl. Yeah, I think I would have.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Absolutely. You would have.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would have won miss Ms. Continental plus.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Honey, you are not now. Well, you would have won Continental Plus. And now go over the skinny girl.

[Monet X Change]

Like, if you want to do that right, you do both.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, girl. What was her name?

[Monet X Change]

Roxy. Andrew injuries with that.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Roxy. Has she won plus and then went for regular? She didn't win, but she made the top five. Okay. It's slipping my mind. One of my good friends has. Has done that too. She's even as a bigger girl, she won regular Continental.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

There's no rules for regular Continental. You could be any. Any size, shape, plus, you have to be plus, you have to be over 200 pounds pound.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, yeah.

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[Monet X Change]

Okay, wait, so Jacob has some. Do you have the Q and A questions, Jacob?

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Yes, I do.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so Jacob's gonna ask us some pageant Q and A answers and we'll just, like, alternate answering them.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

So these are all real Miss Continental questions. They start with the regular ones and then they get wild.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, my God.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Yes.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, yeah, they're. They come up with some crazy questions.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Okay, but we'll. We'll start with. We'll start with Trinity.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Who is Trinity the Tuck? And why should you be Ms. Continental?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Who is Trinity the Tuck? By the way? If I ever competed again, I would go by Trinity Taylor. Trinity Taylor is still my name.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, is it?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Trinity the Tuck is just like my nickname that I go by.

[Monet X Change]

Got it?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. Whenever I go back as a former Entertainer of the Year, they always announce me as Trinity Taylor because that's how I won.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

So it would be Trinity Taylor. So who is Trinity Taylor and why should she be Miss Continental?

[Monet X Change]

So see, you have to repeat the question.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You know, some people don't like that. I do like that because it makes you refresh in your mind before you answer the question. But some judges don't like that. So that's kind of your. To your discretion.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Trinity the Tuck]

So I would say, good evening, ladies, gentlemen, and most distinguished panel of judges. I am contestant number 400 and my name is Trinity Taylor. I'm proudly sponsored by a host of friends and family who do believe that I can be the next Miss Continental. And in response to the question, who is Trinity Taylor? Trinity Taylor is a very creative, pumped, overfilled, beautifully beautiful entertainer from Alabama who barely graduated. Hooked on phonics did work for me. And why should I be Miss Continental? Because I have gowns, beautiful gowns. And I thank you once again in question and answer. I am contestant number 400 and my name is Trinity Taylor. Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, boy. You see that? That's so much work. I gotta say the number, the name.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I mean, I didn't answer it, like, seriously, but yeah, you do want to. You. You have to repeat your contestant name and number and number and a lot of girls do repeat their. Their sponsors.

[Monet X Change]

Their sponsors? Yeah, like if like a bar sponsored year.

[Trinity the Tuck]

A bar. A person like, girl, some of Them will list the whole thing. I. My rule of thumb is just say friends and family. Friends and family that encompasses everybody. That way you don't forget anybody. And you can remember that, right?

[Monet X Change]

Some like, I gave her $20 and she ain't say, oh, girl, trust.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And they will.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, they will.

[Monet X Change]

All right.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

All right, Miss Exchange. Who is the one person you admire the most and why?

[Monet X Change]

Hello, everyone and distinguished panel of judges, except you. I am Contestant number 401, Monet X change.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, you're coming after me. Okay.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

All right.

[Monet X Change]

And in response to the question, who is the person I most admire and why? My answer is God. I think that God created each and every one of us here perfectly in his image. She is the greatest person I know, the strongest force I know, and without her, none of us would be here. Thank you. Contestant number 401, Monet X change. Thank you.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That was a pageant answer. Okay, okay. All right. I don't believe in God, but here we are.

[Monet X Change]

Just give us one of the wild ones, though.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Okay. Intimacy is being seen and known as the person you truly are. How do you think people see you? What?

[Monet X Change]

That is so heavy for a fucking pageant.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Intimacy.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so.

[Trinity the Tuck]

So.

[Monet X Change]

So someone will get, like, the. One of your first ones, and someone will get one like that in the same thing. Or is it like.

[Trinity the Tuck]

No. So Continental, to my understanding, Continental takes all the contestants that are not answering and put them in a soundproof like area and they all get the same question.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, okay.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. Some. Some, like, Entertainer of the year they pull from your bio. So it's a personal question about you.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Could you repeat the question, please?

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Intimacy is being seen and known as the person you truly are. How do you think people see you?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Once again, in question and answer. My name is Trinity Taylor and I'm contestant number 400. And now, finalist number one, intimacy is. I don't remember that part of the question, but who do I think people see me as? I believe is the question in response to the question. And my sponsors are a host of friends and family who do believe in me to be the next Miss Continental judges. I think people see me as perfection made for this system, a leader, someone who serves her country and world peace. Once again, I'm contestant number 400, finalist number one in question answer on final night of Miss Continental 2023. And my name is Trinity Taylor. Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

I love the honesty, saying perfection. See, people see me as perfection. I would mean the audience. Like. Like, I would live for that. I would live for that.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And these are. I would not answer these like this.

[Monet X Change]

Really can't say perfection.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, no, you could. You could. You could. I would be way more genuine with my, my answers.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Yeah, I love the perfection.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Answer was not my strong suit. That is the one category that I didn't. When I won Entertainment of the Year against Alyssa, I won every category from preliminaries all the way through final night. Except for question. I was third in question. But, yeah, come on. Every category, every catch. I had competed six times over 10 years. They better give me every fucking category.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I'm ready. Judges.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Ms. Exchange. What is one question you would ask me if I were a contestant? And then would you please answer it

[Monet X Change]

if I was a judge? The question I would ask you is, why should Monet Exchange win? And the answer is, because she is perfection. She has served her country, and she is your finalist number two tonight. Thank you very much and have a good night.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Okay, that was. Didn't steal that at all.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Imagine start stealing each other.

[Trinity the Tuck]

It's a very pageant thing to do. Bitch. They be doing some crazy, crazy stuff.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I've heard these, like, rumors or not rumors or, like, stories about, oh, how. And people, like, really disgruntled. They, like, crush up glass and put it in powder. That cannot be a real thing.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That I know for a fact that I've heard that story. I, I haven't heard of that happening anytime soon, but I've heard, like, razor blades on gowns.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I've heard people stealing stuff. I do know that a couple of years ago, a queen's. And I don't remember which pageant this is, but I, I, I remember hearing this. This a queen's group that was there for her. She didn't win the pageant. And they were so furious, they sprayed pepper spray into the vents. So the entire event had to get evacuated.

[Monet X Change]

That is it.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Petty drag pageants. Here we are.

[Monet X Change]

Imagine he was sitting there, just pepper. Like, you're like, oh, my God, my eyes burned. Why am I coughing?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, yeah. Have you seen those videos of, like, some. It had to have been a pageant in, like, in a Spanish speaking country, because that was the language. Speaking of, like, a girl who didn't win, and she goes up behind her and snatches the wig.

[Monet X Change]

I've seen that.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Bald.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like, y', all, it's just a pageant. I mean, but again, people are spending, like, tens of thousands of dollars. So, like, it's a lot of money, girls. But what, what gets me is that the payoff from winning the pageant is sometimes so much smaller than what you spend to do the pageant.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Well, I think it depends. So like if you're going and having a big production. Yeah, that costs a lot of money. But somebody like you, who can sing opera. Yeah, you could go up there like Giselle, Barbie Royale, when she went, she would just solo.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Doing a solo girl, you could go do any pageant for cheap.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Because all you need is a really good gown. So if you invest a lot of money in a really good gown and you have a natural born talent, you could go sweep pageants everywhere. There's a career pageant queen named Tanisha Cassidy. And God rest her soul, she would literally every weekend she would be doing pageants. When she wasn't doing bookings, she would be doing pageants.

[Monet X Change]

But like, which pageant pays the most? Continental.

[Trinity the Tuck]

No, I think the most. I may be out of the loop, but I think the most is 10,000. Entertainer of the Year and Miss Glamorous in Orlando, that just happened. They pay 10,000. I think Continental might be 10,000. If it's not 10,000, it's 8,000 to the winner.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, that's not bad.

[Trinity the Tuck]

There used to be, there was a one off pageant one time called the Most Beautiful Transsexual in the World pageant, which I think Mimi marks one. And that was 20 or $30,000.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I would transition for that and

[Trinity the Tuck]

there was a, oh, and there was a, there was a, a documentary on that, I think.

[Monet X Change]

I, I, I feel like I've seen that actually.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. It's fierce. Pork Chop Victoria Pork Chop Poer did it.

[Monet X Change]

Did she really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

And as far as my knowledge, she's not transsexual and she still did it. Most beautiful girl.

[Monet X Change]

Well, do you know who she just did. She just did a. I think she's so stunning. She's so beautiful. Melanie.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, Melanie Monroe. Oh, she is absolutely stunning. I was floored that she didn't win. I was like, how does she not win?

[Monet X Change]

Miss International Queen.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yes, Miss. Yes. It's, it is a, a trans pageant in Thailand. And it is, it's not like a, I wouldn't say it's a drag pageant. I would say it's, it's a trans pageant. Yeah, but it's like Miss Universe.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And she was absolutely stunning.

[Monet X Change]

The pictures of her and, and the videos, I'm like, like, she looks like a fucking, she looks like a, like, like, like a car. Like a, like a, like it's not real.

[Trinity the Tuck]

She doesn't know.

[Monet X Change]

She's so, she's so if I looked

[Trinity the Tuck]

like her bitch, I would have had titties yesterday.

[Monet X Change]

Could I tell you I talked about this on the podcast before. Like I, before I did not. I don't feel it so much anymore. But I really wanted to, I like was heavily considering getting booed. Like getting like a, like a solid like 38C girl.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I am one hormone shot and laser in tits away. I mean like literally I have my entire body done. Like I literally. But no, I, I, I think about that all the time. I, I, I 100 feel that I'm trans. I would never claim to be a trans woman because I don't, I've never lived that experience. But I always said, even before, like I knew what non binary was, that I was an in between. I always said that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And if I felt comfortable, this is going back to like self confidence and you know, like when you're, when you're trans, I imagine that it's, there's a lot of dysphoria.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I, I do not feel comfortable. Like when I'm in drag, I feel like I look fine, but I don't see myself how I would want to see myself, like every day.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Like if I was going to live my, live my life as a female, I would want to look a certain way. And I know that sounds awful, I know that sounds vain, but I, but

[Monet X Change]

it's, it's your, it's your body.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That's why I haven't transitioned I fully and I feel, I fully feel like I'm trans again. Would never claim trans woman.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

At least not right now. At least not while I haven't. I've thought about getting ffs.

[Monet X Change]

I thought about that too.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And seeing how I feel after that. A lot of my insecurities have to do with. I want to get my, my cheeks removed. Like the silicone removed.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And see like after a facelift what, how I feel. Because I do feel like I look better now in drag than I did even like season nine era.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I mean you're, yeah, you're so.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I, yeah, I feel, I feel like that. But yeah, I think being trans is, and, and going through like to physically transition is a lot to commit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And for someone to feel comfortable doing that, I, I just don't know that I would feel comfortable.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I share a lot of those same feelings too. Like I've always, you know, ever since, ever since I started before drag, I've always like, felt this like, otherness and Before I knew the language of non binary. Now I do identify as a non, as a non binary person, which is of a trans experience. You know, by definition, if you feel non binary, you are trans. So I, I mean I just, so I feel that, but I like you. Like, I don't feel that I'm a trans woman. Like I, if I was to completely transition, I don't know how comfortable I would be living that as my day to day life.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I can tell you right now you would be more. And, and again, this is just my thought process for myself. This is not a reflection on trans people at all. Do not feel like you have to look a certain way to live your life.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

As your truth. But I know that to a lot of people this is not everybody's experience, but to a lot of people, passing is, is, is important. I feel like you would be more passing than I would be.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Absolutely.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think so.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Absolutely. Girl, girl, when you do dry, you, you literally put on lip gloss, some tinted moisturizer and a little glitter in your eye and you're done. You. And then I saw you with that long, straight human hair wig. Where were you at in the, the tweed outfit?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I was like, she's, that's a woman.

[Monet X Change]

Like, yeah, I mean, I, I just, I, I, I, I've, you know, the man I used to date and, and, and how I, I off to live, you know, before my current boyfriend like that I was, I was, I was toeing the line of that. Right. I was, I was sharing a lot of those experiences. I was like, could I wake up like this every day and do this every day? I'm like, I don't know. But oftentimes I do feel I'm not. Oftentimes like I pretty much always feel comfortable that way, but having to fully commit to, to that experience, I don't know how comfortable I would be every day.

[Trinity the Tuck]

But how would your partner feel if you, if you were like, oh, I'm getting tits.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, he doesn't care. He was like, he was like, yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Really?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he used to be straight. He was straight six years ago. Yeah, he just, he just, just became one of the boys. So. Yeah, but he wouldn't care. But I just, I just don't know how I would, you know, you know, and again, like you said, and there's just, it's just, there's just so much around that and I just, I don't know, maybe, maybe one day I will, I don't want to, but it's it's,

[Trinity the Tuck]

it's, it's a, it's totally like a psychological fuck. Like when you're, when you're, you're, you're feeling a certain type of way and you don't look how you want to look. Like, even like how I dress, like every day, like, this is what I wear, like a T shirt and like some casual pants, jeans or something. That's because when I am not in drag, I don't want attention. I don't want to, I don't. Because I already look feminine and I look more androgynous and even sometimes I might sound like in drive thrus, girl. I get ma' am all the time. Really all the time. So. But I don't like attention. So I'm very like, I will dress more effeminate out of drag when I'm going to what I would consider like a safer place. Like, like a queer venue or club or event. But generally I just like to just blend in.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, me too. I am, I mean, I, I've really, recently, I've been really into jazzy shoes, like crazy shoes. I have like, clogs. I have those red shoes. I have. But I'm into like a crazy shoe. But normally I'm just, I'm trying to wear like a, I wear like a baggy pant and a oversized shirt or a hoodie. Kind of just like being on the script.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. But, you know, who knows?

[Trinity the Tuck]

If I was, girl, if I ever was to get titties, They would be out. Oh, girl, I would look exactly like Melanie. I would look exactly like Kylie. Kylie. Kylie. Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Gorgeous.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, Both of them. I'm gonna push them both down some stairs.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

If you both got tits, how big would they be?

[Monet X Change]

Be like, I'm doing, I'm doing 38C. I, this should be a, a, a

[Trinity the Tuck]

no, I would not want them too, too, too big. I would say a C. I think a C. Yeah. I would want them to be beautiful and big, but not like cr. I could, I don't want to. I actually, in spite of the way that I look and as much as I love plastic surgery, I would want to not be so, so, so, I mean, I think it for me to feel comfortable, I would look, I would have to look done.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

But I wouldn't want to be so crazy. I wouldn't want them to be huge. That's, I, that would be just too much.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I, I, I, I would do like a 38T. I feel like that would on my, on my proportionately that would look nice and it wouldn't be too. I would do that. And also I would just. I would just love to just be able to just put on, like, a white T shirt and just having, like, my tits out and, like, nice perky boobs.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yep. Like a. A baggy T shirt and, like, booty shorts.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I'm saying?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Your little coach slides, sunglasses, oversized bag.

[Monet X Change]

Pat and I were just. We just came from Tacoma Pride and the woman that took us to the airport. It was like Sunday morning, like 6 o' clock in the morning. She picks up. She picks us up in her beautiful white BMW, brand new X5.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And she's doing an Uber.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no. She did the. The. The festival arrangement.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Okay. I was like, she doing Uber?

[Monet X Change]

No, girl. And then she had this, like, platinum, like, white blonde hair was, like, perfectly done. She had a little glasses on. She had her beautiful white top with her. Beautiful, beautiful. I mean, I was just like, if I woke up every morning, I would want to look like this. And I know I would not. I would roll up looking crazy.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Girl. Same. Well, what infuriates me is that you're talking about Melanie and also Giselle. Giselle without any makeup. Those two. I want to slap a bitch that

[Monet X Change]

they both so beautiful.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Their skin. They don't need anything.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they're so beautiful.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Skincare. That's it.

[Monet X Change]

Beautiful. So beautiful. Which I haven't. I haven't watched Queen of the Universe, but apparently they were so shady to her.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I know that Melanie. C, D, F. Whoever. Melanie. What? Who is it? Yes. Gary Spice. She's one of the Melanies. Mel B. Melville. She was really shady too.

[Monet X Change]

I heard.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I saw the first episode and like, everyone, I complimented her on the song. And then Melanie was like, it was awful. Why would you come. Why would you come sing a Dale for us if it can't do a deadlock? I tell you, then you don't do it. And I was like, I think she sounded good. Like, I'm like, you're not out here. I mean, maybe she does have a Grammy. I'm sure Spice Girls has to have a Grammy. But I was like, girl crazy, right?

[Trinity the Tuck]

She. She saw her titties and she's like, nope, over for you.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so. And I told Trinity this. I'm gonna. I'm gonna send Jake at the picture right now, because Trinity and I are doing this for Halloween this year. There is this iconic picture of the Little Mermaid. Little Mermaid, Arielle and Betty Boop. And I want Trinity And I, For Halloween, we're gonna, I'm gonna go to Florida. We're going to, we're gonna take this picture and we're going to. It's gonna be our Halloween post as the Twinners. I think it's.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Have you even sent this to me?

[Monet X Change]

I think I have. I didn't send it to you.

[Trinity the Tuck]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Let me find it. I have it on my phone. Oh, my God. On my phone. I also have this, like, when I was, you know, women of the world and I would be on the apps, I would always. When people send me ugly dick pics, I would always save them and be like, what? Like, you know, when someone sends you a dick pic and their dick look

[Trinity the Tuck]

like it has the flu, I block them. I'm not trying.

[Monet X Change]

Uh, this picture.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, that's fierce. I don't think you sent that to me, but that's Fears, right?

[Monet X Change]

That'll be cute. Jake, Isn't that cute?

[Trinity the Tuck]

And that, that, that's, that is Jessica Rabbit. That's not Ariel. But see, this is interesting. I don't know if you know this. You probably do. In that picture, it, it looks like Betty Boop is a person of color because she was based off of.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I did. I, I saw that. I was watching the, this, this thing on Netflix. I was like, really? I had no idea.

[Trinity the Tuck]

She's based off of a black woman.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. This would be so cute. I'm gonna do finger waves just like that. You with her?

[Trinity the Tuck]

I think it's fierce.

[Monet X Change]

It'll be so cute.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Let's do it.

[Monet X Change]

We're doing it for Halloween. I don't have service. I'll send it to when I have service.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Jacobs.

[Monet X Change]

But that's gonna be a very cute little photographer. You know what? We should annually, the Twinners, on the, on the anniversary of our winning win, we should do, like, a shoot together.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I think so. Do you think they're ever gonna have another twin or.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't think. No, I don't think so. They better not.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I, I, I know that we both were, like, over it in that moment, but I think it's so, like, so cool now.

[Monet X Change]

I love it. Yeah, I love it. I love it. In the moment, we were. Well, I'm. What? You, you were showing your expression on

[Trinity the Tuck]

your face, and I, well, that was the Botox. I, I, I couldn't move. Move it. Anyway, I was just there because I was like, the money. Well, not, not just I was about to buy.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want to share.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Not just that, my money. The first of all, when I was. Look, I couldn't. You could not hear. At least for me. I'm hard of hearing anyway, so I. I didn't know what was going on. But after, when we figured it out, I. It's the. It's the pageant queen in me because there's never been a tie in a pageant ever. Ever.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

So to me, it was like, I would have rather them just give you the title or give me the title.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And. And so one person could celebrate. And what I was really bitter about is the people that were our assistants that were there. They knew.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they knew.

[Trinity the Tuck]

They knew while they were dressing what was going down. And nobody told us.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. We were like, we're painting in the basement. Wow. And the video that y' all see was like at a bar across the street. And then our citizens were there.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And then they had looked on Reddit

[Monet X Change]

and they looked on Reddit and over the news, and Patty kept on trying to be like, hey, Mo, can I talk to you for a second? I was like, I had to paint. Like, we're running low on time and Lou was trying to tell you. And then when we went across the street, they did not let them talk to us beforehand because they knew it had leaks and they didn't want them to spill it to us.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Us how crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Crazy girl. Crazy.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Crazy.

[Monet X Change]

And then we were. That happened like 3 o' clock in the afternoon or like 5 o'. Clock. Then we had to stay until like 10 o' clock in drag, girl, just

[Trinity the Tuck]

to go to Kelly. Casey Musgraves. Kelly Musgrave.

[Monet X Change]

Kelly and Conway Graves. Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Concert to be announced on stage as the winners. Yes. She was very sweet. She was very nice, and we were in the Country Music hall of Fame for a long time. For that.

[Monet X Change]

All the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was good. Casey was great. What I realized, Well, I guess we got the picture and the thing afterwards, but we. We didn't get like a picture.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Picture with our phone. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

We probably could have asked, but we were just so tired. We're all day.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Exhausted, mentally, emotionally.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think it's gonna be another tie. I don't think so.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I hope not. I think. I think. I think that it was a cool moment, and I think that. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. They can never get rid of us. I mean, we're the only one.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Like, you have to.

[Monet X Change]

Although this past season on All Stars, they did all the winners for All Stars, and they did not have Alaska or Chad in it, really.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

They had a construction challenge based on all the Past All Stars winners and they didn't have a box for Alaska

[Monet X Change]

or Chad, which I'm like, dang, why do you.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Why do you think they didn't do that?

[Monet X Change]

No. And like, I mean, there were only six girls, so they did you, me, Shay, Sonique, Trixie and somebody else. Oh, no, no, no, no, they didn't. So maybe they did five, but they should have done it at seven girls. They could have had the other two. I don't know. It was weird.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Maybe they passed it off as we did. The newest winners.

[Monet X Change]

Recent ones. Yeah, maybe so.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That's the easy way to get out of that, you know. World of Wonder loves to pull a good one.

[Monet X Change]

Well, they also. Well, here's the thing. Here's the question I have. Is Jinx considered an All Stars winner?

[Trinity the Tuck]

I don't know. They never once do you remember? I do not remember them saying at all ever once that she would be in the imaginary hall of Fame.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Not once. And I haven't seen since even this season them have anything with the hall.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. They haven't done that. You're right. Maybe when they have the winner they'll like put it in there. But you're right, they haven't. They normally have some type of graphic at some point in the season.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You see it.

[Shannon Maldonado]

It.

[Monet X Change]

But they haven't. I said my idea. I would like us all to do like a. We'll like record it on whatever and we should do like. Like us all talking the whole thing.

[Trinity the Tuck]

That would be so good.

[Monet X Change]

That'll be so cute.

[Trinity the Tuck]

It would be really cute. And you know what's really. What really made me bitter too about when they crowned Shea was we had this whole thing and coming back from Australia. Yes. Together to go do. To go. And we were the first ones that didn't get to crown someone.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Why was that?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Girl, they said them.

[Monet X Change]

It was so weird. We came all the way back. Like we were. We were both on all way.

[Trinity the Tuck]

We changed our schedule.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. And we canceled like dates on a tour in Australia. We flew back to la.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yep.

[Monet X Change]

We got those. Jeffrey Kelly made us those. The. The dresses look.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And then for us to record on a green screen. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I. I still don't understand why we didn't that. Why?

[Trinity the Tuck]

I don't know, girl. Wait, did she have like Kylie stepchildren

[Monet X Change]

did shaker on Kylie.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I don't. I think I. I think. I think the people that crowned us were the last of the crowns.

[Monet X Change]

That's so weird. Like, why not just very weird.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I don't know. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I Mean, rude.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Just.

[Monet X Change]

He doesn't come on stage anyway anymore. He just sits on the things.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

I. I could be wrong, but I. I think that this, the year that Kylie's season was airing, you were all filming All Stars 7.

[Monet X Change]

We did. That's true. We. Oh, yeah, we were all filming All Star seven.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Like this summer, they were filming All Stars. They were filming All Stars. They were airing All Stars. Oh, no, that's not. That's like. Because they were filming All Stars 6 the year before, so.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We were available. We were around. They just did it. Well, it's also pandemic though. Maybe that's why.

[Trinity the Tuck]

True.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe they'll change it on All Stars 10. They bring us all back or something.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Girl.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Well, you know, they ain't gonna bring one of them back at least. That's so wild to me.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, what?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Like, why do you think Alaska is. Is not in good graces with. With World of Wonder, but just because of her association.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

Have you heard her song? Wow.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, but I like. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think it's that, but.

[Monet X Change]

But I think a lot of it was built up before that. I think it was because of her as her proximity to Willem. Yeah, they would just real like. We gotta keep it Armsling.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Wow. No pun intended. Sorry. No pun intended. No pun intended.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. Well, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, before we. Last question before you go.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Okay. Would you, huh.

[Monet X Change]

Ever go back?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Girl, I love to compete. I would go back if it was for charity. I don't. I think that you and I have accomplished everything we could possibly accomplish there. Like, like, we've made it to the end multiple times. We've won.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You know, we've won a lot of challenges.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Like there. You've made to the. The top two twice.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Trinity the Tuck]

There's. There's nothing else we can accomplish by going back to a regular season. I think that I would because I just love the. The concept of Drag Race as a competition. I would love to go back if it was for charity or if it was for like. Like mint. Like a mentor for like a newcomer girl or like families. Like there had. There had to been some kind of twist.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. Like if. If this drags sisters thing that, that they always. The fans always do. It's always like, like D Jings Robin Monet, A.K. willem. Who. Who would your. Who would your.

[1-800-Contacts Customer]

Your.

[Monet X Change]

Your person be?

[Trinity the Tuck]

I don't. You're the only person that I have

[Monet X Change]

affiliation with and I think we will turn it out.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah. I mean, girl, look at it. We made it to the end. Yeah, I, I, I don't really have like another person that like, is iconically like somebody like linked with that I'm linked with. Unless it would be like, eureka, like, you know, like rivals that are grouped together. That would be fear.

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God. This drag, Drag race rivalries, they had to.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I think it would be fierce to do like, like a drag mother and daughter.

[Monet X Change]

That would be combo. Like you and you and Chantel.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Me and Chantel or me and my drag mother? Because my drag mother is still freaking fierce.

[Monet X Change]

Word.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And she's like opposite of me. She's like, me and Chantel are very similar, but my drag mother is like a club kid mixed with pageant.

[Monet X Change]

We love that.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Her name's Jordan Kennedy. You might consider on Instagram. She just started doing drag again after 15 years.

[Monet X Change]

She stop.

[Trinity the Tuck]

She did Continental. And the year before she had made the top 10 and almost made top five. And then she came back that next year and didn't make the finals. And after that she, she like, I'm done with you. She literally quit driving drag. She, she quit drag. But there was, there was underlining that. We've had conversations about this. There was underlining things that were going on, like, mentally that she was dealing with. She wasn't happy with herself. And there was a lot of unresolved things that she's worked through. She's actually doing entertainer of the year this year.

[Monet X Change]

I identify a lot of that because I almost quit drag off the All Star seven.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You're lying. You've been doing so much stuff. You've been on TV show, you've been, you making money.

[Monet X Change]

You know, I want to do, dude, I want to go to the Met Gala.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I could totally see you doing that girl. You're so connected. I don't see why you would not.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I'm not though. I mean, it looks like I am, but I'm really not. I would love to, I would love to go to the medical. That sounds so fun. I just want to see what happens.

[Trinity the Tuck]

You don't know designers?

[Monet X Change]

Not. No, I don't. Because see, because you see these girls, they go to like all the Runway shows.

[Trinity the Tuck]

They like, they like the young little tween looking ones. I've never been nobody ever, ever in DM'd me and be like, hey, well,

[Monet X Change]

but when you see some girls, like, like how, like, you know, like, like maybe they ask her, but. Because apparently what, Apparently I do not. I've never been done to these things. I don't know for sure. Apparently when you go to These things, like, you're paying your way. Like, you're paying for your own flight, your hotel. You'll get a dress or something, but you're paying for all that stuff.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I'll pay for a flight in a hotel to go to a Met gala.

[Monet X Change]

No, not a Met gala. Like, like, go to, like, these, like, fashion shows.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, no.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you're paying for your own way to go to the Paris Fashion Week. London. Like, you're doing all that yourself, but they give you free clothes to wear just for the show, not to keep. Yeah. So that's so. So when you see someone like. Like, how is, like, Naomi Smalls never doing any of these things? I'm like, Naomi's like. Which I don't need to be.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, that. That. Yeah. Why? Because Naomi is, like, iconic for fashion.

[Monet X Change]

She's a.

[Trinity the Tuck]

She's a supermodel.

[Monet X Change]

She's a supermodel.

[Trinity the Tuck]

She's gorgeous.

[Monet X Change]

But I think it's like, some girls see, like, want to, like, pay all this money to go to these things, and some girls are like, it's not worth it.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And I think also it depends on if you're friends with people or not, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, I would do. If I got invited to a fashion week, whatever. I would do it. I would want to do it at least once. I want to do every experience at least one time so I can be like, I did it. I don't like it. Oh, that was so fun. You know what I mean?

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But who knows? Whatever.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Ribbon elbows with Cardi B, bitch. Cardi B has not missed on any of her team.

[Monet X Change]

It's always really good girl.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Every one of her looks that she wears everywhere is just. She shuts it down. To me, she's like the queen of fashion. Her and Doja Cat.

[Monet X Change]

Doja Cat was really good. People, like, catch how to read her for that cat look. I thought it was really.

[Trinity the Tuck]

I thought it was fierce. Great.

[Monet X Change]

She looks amazing. And Chanel, hello. But Trinity, thank you so much for coming.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Thanks for having me.

[Monet X Change]

This was. Y'. All wasn't. This wasn't a great, great episode.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

We love Trinity Taylor.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Bob the tuck.

[Monet X Change]

Bob the tuck. Trinity. Trinity the drag queen.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Oh, Trinity the drag queen. Yes, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All, thank you for listening to this episode and make sure you go on Apple podcast and Spotify and review us, rate us. Give us a five star rating, y'. All. It really helps us out, and it really, really, really will make sure that you guys keep on getting some quality content.

[Trinity the Tuck]

And go subscribe to their Patreon and give these these bitches some money. Yes. Because she needs to have her one eyebrow raised.

[Monet X Change]

I'm doing it, too. Next. Peace, y'.

[Jacob (Q&A Host)]

All.

[Trinity the Tuck]

Bye.

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