The One About Parasocial Relationships

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Parasocial Relationships"

Date: May 11, 2022
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
Main Theme: A hilarious and insightful exploration of parasocial relationships – those one-sided connections fans develop with celebrities – and how these play out in the world of drag and beyond.

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Episode Overview

Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen, the beloved duo of “Sibling Rivalry,” spend this episode dissecting the concept of parasocial relationships with their signature banter, personal anecdotes, and plenty of laughs. They offer both definitions and real-world examples, reflecting on their own experiences as public figures and examining the unique challenges and rewards these relationships bring. The conversation touches on everything from encounters with overzealous fans and the impact of reality TV fame, to boundary setting, drag race villainy, and genuinely sweet moments with idols.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: Life Updates and Shenanigans

• Drag Race Press & Fashion Collabs
  • Monét discusses doing press in NYC for All Stars 7 and collaborating with designers for her looks, emphasizing the satisfaction of supporting new talent.
    • “She recently put her all into her business … I can't wait to show the outfit” – Monét (03:40)
• The Ace Hotel & Brand Partnerships
  • Lighthearted teasing about hotel loyalty and unpaid brand endorsements turns into a playful argument about who actually gets free stuff.

2. Billboards, Cults, and the Mystery of Shen Yun

• The duo riff on the infamous “Shen Yun Dancers” billboards spotted everywhere, speculating about the dance troupe’s mystique and rumored cult associations.
  • “In every city in America, I have seen both of us Shenyan Dancers. I do not know a single person that has ever seen the fucking Shenyan Dancers.” – Monét (14:32)
• Neither knows anyone who’s attended, vowing (perhaps jokingly) to go.

3. Reflecting on Vulnerability and Sobriety

• Monét highlights how much fans appreciated Bob’s openness in a recent episode about sobriety (16:11), prompting Bob to share the positive response received from listeners about speaking openly on addiction and recovery.

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4. Parasocial Relationships: Definitions & Nuances

[18:16]

• Defining the Term
  • Multiple definitions are read and debated, with different nuances around whether awareness must be one-sided and how fan/celebrity interactions fit.
    • “Parasocial relationships are one-sided relationships where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time and the other party … is completely unaware of the other's existence.” – Monét quoting Dictionary.com (18:42)
    • “Parasocial interactions refer to … psychological relationship experienced by an audience in their mediated encounters with performers…” – Bob referencing Wikipedia (19:11)
• Debate over Reach
  • Both agree the term can stretch beyond classic “fan-celebrity” dynamics, though the exact boundary is blurry.

5. Meeting Idols: Expectations vs. Reality

• Monét discusses meeting Chelsea Handler – once a parasocial idol – and how good the experience turned out to be, pushing back on the saying “never meet your idols.” (22:27)
• The two recount how their industry access blurs the fan/celebrity line (25:31), especially when shared connections make meetings possible.

6. Mutual Fans: Being the Object of Parasociality

• Bob asks Monét how she feels about her own fans.
  • “It is nice to know that there is like a segment of people who really like the work I do … who love the different parts of me, good, bad and ugly.” – Monét (32:02)
• The hosts reflect on handling fan attention on “bad days,” the expectations of public interaction, and the pressures of always being “on.”

7. Negative Fan Encounters & Setting Boundaries

• Bob shares a cringey story of a fan using the term “incog Negro” and refusing to respect boundaries (34:09).
  • “He goes, I see you being incog Negro. And I was like, you just call me a negro?” – Bob (34:44)
• The pair debate whether celebrities owe fans hugs or photos, ultimately agreeing strong boundaries are necessary, even if they lead to social media backlash (35:32-36:46).

8. Drag Race Fandom vs. Other Reality TV Fandoms

• They explore how Drag Race uniquely turns reality TV contestants into live-performing touring stars, dependent on fan support, unlike most other reality competitions (39:33).
• The shifting perception of “villains” in Drag Race – from celebrated (Alyssa Edwards) to reviled (Fifi O’Hara) – and the factors (talent, likability) that affect fan forgiveness and engagement (40:40-42:25).

9. What does 'Congeniality' Mean Anyway?

• A tangent on the real definition of “congeniality,” with Bob learning it’s about shared interests, not just being ‘nice’ (43:04).
• They run down which of their Drag Race castmates are still doing drag, offering updates and congrats.

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10. Exploring Toxic Parasocial Relationships

• The Björk Stalker Incident
  • Bob recounts the infamous story of Ricardo Lopez, Björk’s stalker, illustrating the potentially dangerous extremes of parasocial obsession (49:50).
  • Trigger warning issued: “Do not recommend you look this up…there is gun violence unaliving in this story.” – Bob (50:39)
• Seriously Scary Fan Encounters
  • Monét and Bob discuss real-life moments where performers felt endangered, such as Christina Grimmie’s murder and on-stage attacks (54:12-55:43).
  • The fine line between passionate fandom and unsafe, entitled, or even violent behavior is explored.

11. Parasocial Relationships in the Social Media Age

• Both acknowledge these relationships are here to stay, intensifying in a world of constant, sometimes illusory digital connection.
  • “Parasocial relationships will always be a thing. … You don’t know when you’re making a stalker.” – Monét (56:08)
• Safety, boundaries, and management remain ongoing challenges for high-profile performers.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Parasociality:
  • “I love Rihanna, but I have no expectations of anything from Rihanna.” – Monét (22:03)
  • “I was a really … big fan of Whoopi Goldberg … and then she was like, wait, you’re Bob the Drag Queen? My granddaughter loves you.” – Bob (29:15)
• On Boundaries:
  • “Yeah, I don’t think that I owe hugs to people.” – Bob (35:32)
  • “Fuck your boundaries, bitch.” – Monét, jokingly (35:51)
• On Villains & Fandom:
  • “It reminded me of that bitchy supermodel that is like, they're allowed to be mean because they're pretty.” – Monét (41:26)
• On Internet Fame:
  • “Drag Race really is a social phenomenon in my opinion, though.” – Bob (39:33)
• On the Dark Side of Parasociality:
  • The Björk stalker acid bomb story (49:50)
  • “That’s a truly toxic, parasocial relationship.” – Bob (51:56)
• On "Congeniality":
  • “A congenial person is someone who is perceived as nice because their interests are similar to your own.” – Bob (43:05)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---|---| | Life Updates, Press, Designer Collabs | 02:45 – 04:48 | | Shen Yun Dancer Speculations | 14:07 – 15:57 | | Reflecting on Sobriety & Vulnerability | 16:11 – 16:46 | | Defining ‘Parasocial Relationships’ | 18:16 – 21:10 | | On Meeting Idols: Chelsea Handler & Whoopi Goldberg | 22:24 – 29:40 | | Fans & Boundaries | 32:01 – 36:46 | | Drag Race Fandom & Villain Analysis | 39:33 – 43:24 | | The Björk Stalker Story (TW) | 49:50 – 52:25 | | Dangerous Fan Interactions | 53:53 – 56:08 | | Conclusion & Recap on Parasociality | 56:08 – 56:59 |

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Final Thoughts

Monét and Bob bounce seamlessly from deep dives to ridiculous tangents, using humor to interrogate real issues facing performers in an age where being “known” never ends with just the stage or the screen. The episode is both a hilariously honest backstage pass and a thoughtful commentary on the joys and dangers of being loved by strangers.

For Those New to Sibling Rivalry:
Expect a blend of serious insight, on-point tea, personal storytelling, and unfiltered chemistry—plus the ever-present threat of Monét exposing Bob’s "disintegrating" knees and vice versa.

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Original Language & Tone Maintained: Sassy, insightful, vulnerable, and always funny.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen

[Monet X Change]

and I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is Sibling rivalry. On today's episode, we uncover the mystery of the Xinyan dancers.

[Monet X Change]

We talk about parasocial relationships.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

I would pay tickets, I would pay money to go see a Sean Hayes one man show. Probably be really brilliant. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was trying to be nicer. I'm trying to be nicer. That's why I didn't drag you just now. You're welcome. I want to start our podcast today by saying to everyone, thank you all for your concern regarding my vocal cords. And I am completely aware of how I sound. The comments have been like, does Bob know? Yeah, girl, I know. I. I know. And I'm concerned about. About my voice. I'm aware that my voice sounds crazy. How are you, Mona?

[Monet X Change]

I'm doing great, you know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just woke up?

[Monet X Change]

No, I've been up for a little while. Just tired.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where are you? What are you doing?

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Oh, no.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

Where are you when you're doing it? Oh, I am in New York doing press week for also 7.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you excited for All Stars 7 to come out?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm excited. You know how Drag Race is. You filmed it so long ago. I don't remember what I even said, what I did. I mean, obviously, like, generally, sure, but it's just been so long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think that there's ever anyone who's kind of like, girl, I don't give A fuck. Like, I've done this shit so many times. I don't give a fuck, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, for sure. That's kind of how I feel like. I feel like after season 10, obviously, I was like. I was like, oh, my God, I can't wait. Like, oh, my God, oh, my God, I can't wait all to respond. Oh, my God, I'm excited. Especially I knew at the end, you know, I got to the final two, I was like, oh, my God, I can't wait. And so I'm excited for this too. But it definitely going into your third time, I'm really excited, but it just. It doesn't feel as like, definitely like the first time. The first time around is your first time ever on tv. You're like, oh, my God, I'm gonna be on television. Which I'm excited again to be on television. I don't want to say that, but it doesn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. Must be nice.

[Monet X Change]

And also, just I invested a lot of money into this, and I collaborated with some designers I'm really proud of and happy I did one in particular. Cause she recently put her all into her business, and she left her daytime job, and she's really pursuing the fashion thing. So I can't wait to hopefully, so I can show the outfit that she made me and tag him on social media and do the smallest bit that I can, because I really love her and I really believe in her. So stuff like that. I'm really excited about that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's also really cool that you collaborated on a piece with. I just thought about this. With Laminda. You have a, like. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Laminda Lamour. Yeah. I mean. I mean, I did two things. I did Patty's mom, Laminda, and also Mindy from Mindy Lamore. Mindy Lamore? Yeah. Laminda, Patty's mom. Oh, my God, I'm so excited about that. It's so beautiful. And she got to see it, though. When we were doing the looks, we FaceTimed and she got to see it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amazing.

[Monet X Change]

And she was. It was the way she reacted. I was like, oh, my God, I love you so much. You know, that's really dope.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is very beautiful. And I'm really excited about. About that.

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And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And what hotel are you staying in?

[Monet X Change]

I'm with the Ace. You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You a Ace and an asshole. You be acin' you gonna ace if it's the last thing you do.

[Monet X Change]

I love the Ace. Ace is good. And they be taking care of your girl, honey. They be really looking out for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really like, bitch, are you platinum at the Ace? What the hell's going on over there, girl?

[Monet X Change]

I am. I'm Ace diamond, honey. I am. I'm the Ace of spades.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you an Ace partner? Why you be. You be. You be talking about Ace like. Like they paying you to talk about this shit, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Ace partner. Good job. Maybe you. You the one who gave. You gave Samsung a free. A free advertisement on your page. I was like, this is just. I. I am not. This is. This is before you were paid the thing. You were like, this is the camera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's really interesting.

[Monet X Change]

That was. You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's interesting you call it a Samsung advertisement because all I did was put up two cameras and say which camera is which one. I didn't even go toward anyone. It's really interesting that you called it a Samsung advertisement when all I literally was put up two cameras and say, this one is this one. That one is that one. That's just. It's very.

[Monet X Change]

It's very telling us all through you. And then, you know, because. Because we all saw through what you did. Everyone on the international Internet saw what you did. You think you're cute, you think you're slick, but, baby, we got your nickel change, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just think it is very telling that you thought it was an advertisement for Samsung. And. But. But I. I am a Samsung partner.

[Monet X Change]

This is before you were a partner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true, because I did. I actually did a Mother's Day thing with Verizon and Samsung a while back. But also, I want to. Yeah. As a reminder, it wasn't. It was literally just me posting. I have two phones. I took a video of them both, and I posted side by side. Now you calling.

[Monet X Change]

So I did a Pizza Hut commercial. I've done, like, two Pizza Hut commercials, and I eat Domino's. What are you saying?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm.

[Monet X Change]

I'm a. I'm. I'm. I'm a Pizza Hut partner. You done two commercials?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You done Pizza Hut commercials?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. No, you've not. Yes, I have. Google.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All. Google Monet X change Pizza Hut. I fully have done two pizza commercial spots.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Describe one of them. 7. Real quick, quickly.

[Monet X Change]

1. I was in this. I was in my red dress with a red beret on, and I had my big afro wig on. I was like. And I said. I was like, giving history about pizza. It was like some fun, silly commercial.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I guess at the time, you. At the time, you were a Pizza Hut partner. At the time, right. At the time, you were a Pixel partner.

[Monet X Change]

And at the time of your TikTok video, you were not a Samsung partner. You were just a everyday person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm going to reiterate one more time. I was literally just posting a video of two phones and letting people know which phone was which phone. Again, the fact that you think it was an advertisement for Samsung is very telling of what you think of the quality of the phone.

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever seen a Bootle that was like half pink, half black?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What the is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? What?

[Monet X Change]

I asked you a question. You ignored me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was a ridiculous. That was a very. Someone posted a clip of me talking to. Talking to you about. About how I like tried to go on the Internet to get my mom, like a lung off the dark web. And then it's me, like spilling my heart to you. And then you're like. And I'm like, yeah. And I went on the dark web to get my mom along, and then you go, let me take my lip gloss. And I was like, no, no, that is not true.

[Monet X Change]

I have not seen it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not verbatim what you said, but it was on the show, Jacob, if you could find it, that'd be great. Me and you sitting side by side. I'm like, yeah, I went to the deep weathers of the dark web trying to find my mom a black. Like a black market lung. And you were like, a black lung.

[Monet X Change]

Why would you get your mama the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

dark web trying to get my mom a new lung? And you were like, girl, this eyelash shadow is everything.

[Monet X Change]

And I was like, I didn't even talk like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm telling you, once we find it, you know, actually someone's going to. The patrons are going to post it after this. The patrons or the fans or some listeners somewhere is going to be like, oh, yeah, I remember that. I have it saved on my phone. And I want to be like, this is what I did.

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you what I love something I love that I have just really luxuriated in is Bob the Drag Queen videos on Twitter. I love Bob the Drag Queen videos because obviously, clearly, just by the name and the sheer volume of content they have put out, they have been Bob the Drag Queen stands the house down, bitch. Everything Bob does, they are there, blah, blah, blah. But in recent events, Bob the Dragon viewers has noticed you're bullshittery. And they have been a little team Monet for the past like three months. Their Monet meter. Oh, baby, they're coming through.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, what are you talking about?

[Monet X Change]

And I love Bob the Dragon Videos. That's my girl now, honey. That's my baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me go to Bob the Dragon videos and see what's over here. What I'm seeing on Bob the Drag Queen videos is. Let's see, there's a video called Bob the Drag Queen Unquoting, judge quoting. I'm gonna have to disagree with Michelle. Okay. Bob the Drag Queen on Sasha Velour. Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's not on YouTube. On Twitter. On Twitter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. Oh, well, maybe I did not follow them on Twitter, but I am intrigued by. Wow.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all see the real Bob this the real Bob, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. What I am intrigued by is, is after we've exposed you on Patreon, are you going to finally admit that you have an exploding foot?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, let me tell you something. The fucking Netflix doc, the fucking Netflix doc you're about to get about your fucking busted ass fucking disintegrated kneecaps. It's going to blow your wig off, bitch. Honestly, I want to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to have it. Have.

[Monet X Change]

I want to have it, bitch. I'm debuting this bitch. A Tribeca film festival, bitch. Okay, bitch, we taking her to Sundance, okay? We're going to get in them disintegrated ass kneecaps, honey. Just you fucking wait.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The difference between me and you is I've never said I don't have bad knees. You said, I never took my shoes off. And then I got a picture of you taking your shoe off, and you said, that's not what that was. And then I got a video of Pixie and Cracker being like, yeah, bitch, you fully take your shoe off. So now that everyone has corroborated the story, are you gonna admit that you.

[Monet X Change]

Everyone? Yeah, to everyone. First of all, let's look at who

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you've done shows with. Three people you've done shows with.

[Monet X Change]

Let's talk about your. Let's talk about your crunchy little fucking Amber heard ass witnesses. Okay, first of all, Ms. Cracker is your fucking daugh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of course that.

[Monet X Change]

But you say anything, you ask her to say. We all know how that works. There has been proof, document proof of Miz Cracker lying on your behalf. So she'll see discounted.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What does that proof? You have pictures. What does that proof? I'm sorry, what is that documented proof?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, listen, the documentary, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just wait. What does that proof of the cracker line on my back?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you'll see. I don't need to explain it to you. Now there will be a full video that's going to fucking gag you bitch. At Pixie Aventura. You've had Pixave Aventura on your payroll. OK? You hired her at Bloodbath. What? 20, 16, 18, 17 and 18.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay?

[Monet X Change]

So of course you're just gonna finish what you're saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've hired you longer than I hired.

[Monet X Change]

You've never hired me. When have you hired me for what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now? We just rolled the footage of Monet calling me a tyrant when she worked for me at Liquen for a couple of years.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, nigga, I did not work for you. I worked for Le Queen. That was. That was. That was. I worked for the Monster and not Bob the Drag Queen. Let's be very clear. The Monster paid me, not you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who handed you money the end of the night?

[Monet X Change]

The Monster paid me, okay? Because you worked for the Monster.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, bitch, I hate you.

[Monet X Change]

You worked for the Monster. The Monster was paying me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, you cannot.

[Monet X Change]

You just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It hurts you to say it, but listen, I'm telling you this. I'm going to tell you right now. I could have a. I could. I have. Let me tell you what I have before we go to our. I have the picture of Monet with her shoe off. I have two other people who have done shows with Monet, who are all

[Monet X Change]

acknowledged that Monet somebody and your drag

[Bob the Drag Queen]

daughter Monet used to take the shoe off. Wait, wait, so wait, so now she's a Bobby drag queen partner Because I hired her 10 years ago. Wait, 10 years ago?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, 2017 is 10 years ago. Is your math failing you now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And let's just say there are more corroborators coming forward. And I guess Monat's gonna find ways to discredit each and every one of them, huh?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, trust me, this what I'm about to. What I'm about to unleash on the patreon of you, bitch. Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard. Honey, what's about to come at that ass? Just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Vehicle.

[Monet X Change]

Very clear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I promise you all, this thing will never come. This is gonna be like the end of Monet's early YouTube series. The end. It will never come. You'll never see that. It. It will never see the light of day. It will never.

[Monet X Change]

Let's take a break.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we're not at a break. We have three more minutes to take a break. Oh, yeah. No, don't try to rush out of here like. Like, like you try to. Like you try to rush out of all your little YouTube series. Oh, no, we're seeing this all the way through, honey. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Ding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Silence. Your God Yes, I did it.

[Monet X Change]

You are a fucking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You say we getting out of here? You thought you about to slide to the left. Slide to the right. No, nigga, one hop this time. Shut the fuck up. You are wild.

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you something? What? I wrote. I wrote. Hello, I'm here. Okay. Yeah, this air died. Okay. Patty and I, we were coming from the airport this morning. We took the red eye from J O K and we were in the car. And like, I wrote this. I did this whole bit about the Shenyan Dancers. Have you ever seen the Shenyan Dancers?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've seen the billboards around town.

[Monet X Change]

Right, right. No one? No, I do not. In every city. In every city in America, I have seen both of us Shenyan Dancers. I do not know a single person that has ever seen the fucking Shenyan Dancers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They don't exist. Well, you know, I've heard they're like a cult. Have you heard about this?

[Monet X Change]

Well, they have a board that says China, not communism. They're like. They're like. They're like on the right side of things, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not about whether or not you're a communist. You can. You can be a cult without being communist. I've heard that there. I don't know, by the way, there's like some story that, like, there's some really weird practices within the Xinyan Dancers. And the dance troops and the way they treat their. It's like someone's like. They're like, girl, it's a cult. Like, you get like, trapped in the Xinyan dancership. It's like wild.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, I've been seeing posts from the Shinya Dancers since I used to go to elementary School, P.S. 190 in Brooklyn. And I have never known a single person who has ever seen the fucking Shinya Dancers, ever. Do you know anyone who's seen them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do not know a single person. I feel like maybe my friend Tony saw the Chignon dancers, but I can't remember. I might have just made that up.

[Monet X Change]

You and I need to get. I'm getting you and I tickets to go see the Chenyun dancers. We're going to see the Chenyun Dancers,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

bitch, you might never come back.

[Monet X Change]

I know

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have an inherent fear of the Chignon dancers. Something about them just seems off. It's a front. It's a front for the Mafia, girl.

[Monet X Change]

It really is, girl. It's wild. It's wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also, take Patty, take Andy, take Andy ass to the Chignon dancer and come back.

[Monet X Change]

But people really liked the episode about Sobriety. Bob, you were so vulnerable. I love when you get so vulnerable in the bond guys. It makes me very not happy. But I just, you know, I love seeing you just baring your heart and your soul and it makes me feel so warm and gushy inside. I love you so much. Well, thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't realize that people were so, were so affected by that, by that episode. I did see a lot of comments of people who were talking about their journeys with sobriety and alcohol and drug use. And I'm happy that my experience, strength and hope can encourage people one day

[Monet X Change]

at a time, you know? You know, on Andy's Sober Mobile for the Phoenix, like on it, it says their slogan is the Phoenix. Rise, Recover, Live. Ice Vish for pride. Yanni, sort of parody on pose. Rise, recover, Live. The Phoenix logo enlightens. I said, girl, I'll be so funny.

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You know what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now let's take a break.

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[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Get into the topic parasocial relationships. Roberta, how do you feel about parasocial relationships?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think that they're a very real part of our existence as people and we see people on tv. Let's quickly define a parasocial relationship for anyone out there and I don't want to get it wrong.

[Monet X Change]

Let's do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A parasocial relationship.

[Monet X Change]

So parasocial relationships are one sided relationships where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time and the other party, the Persona, is completely unaware of the other's existence. Parasocial relationships are most common with celebrities, organizations, organizations, and television stars. So if you have. If by this definition, if you really love a celebrity, like I love Rihanna, that is a power source relationship. I'm obsessed with Rihanna. I love Rihanna. She has no idea that I even exist. I don't think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that's true. I think Rihanna does know you exist. I think Rena absolutely knows you exist.

[Monet X Change]

You think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I do. If she knows, she knows Nina west exists. She knows you exist. Okay. I like this definition, too. Parasocial interactions refer to a kind of psychological relationship experienced by an audience in their mediated encounters with. With performers in the mass media, particularly on television and other online platforms. That seems more like an actual. Like an accurate depiction, because I don't think you. I don't think you have to not know that the person exists for it to be a parasocial relationship.

[Monet X Change]

I may have. I mean, read yours again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Parasocial interactions refer to a kind of psychological relationship experienced by an audience in their mediated encounters with performers in the mass media, particularly on television and on online platforms.

[Monet X Change]

Who's defining yours? Where's yours from?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mine is from Wikipedia.

[Monet X Change]

Is it a Merriam Webster one? Because, you know Wikipedia. Anybody can go, this is what Dictionary.com says.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that true?

[Monet X Change]

The term parasitic relationship refers to a

[Bob the Drag Queen]

relationship to change anymore. But anyway, go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

The term parasitic relationship refers to a relationship that a person imagines having with another person whom they do not actually know, such as a celebrity or fictional character.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, we are now on three. Three different definitions. One is imagined. One means the other person. I think the most popular definition is the one from Wikipedia, which is basically just like the relationship a fan has with a celebrity that they support.

[Monet X Change]

But I don't think it only has. I don't think it only equates to celebrities and fans. That's why I don't like that. I feel it exists outside of that. Not just celebrities and friends.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a possibility. I mean, sure. But I think out of these four definitions that we have that we have now, so many.

[Monet X Change]

So who really knows what the fucking parasocial bitch we should hire? We should have got a parasocial specialist on this podcast, apparently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, we would have just talked over them the whole time.

[Monet X Change]

So, no, we were really good with Chelsea. With Chelsea. We really were. We were great. Chelsea was lovely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yo, Chelsea's a very bold woman.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If we'd had a mousy little psychologist in here being like, well, actually, I

[Monet X Change]

will say one person that we. That we were wild in front of was Gravity. Balmain, bitch. Gravity. Balmain. Gravity got maybe an EEP out the entire time. Just an Eep.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that's all because of you.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Anyway. All cause of you get power supposed for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I.

[Monet X Change]

I'm trying to think of. Okay. In the paratholic relationships where I'm the one admiring the celebrity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess we're using, let's say you and Rihanna.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, me and Rihanna. I mean, I have no expectations from Rihanna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't.

[Monet X Change]

I don't. I mean, obviously I love Rihanna. I would love her to be like, oh, my God, Monet. Give me, like, whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you like to call her out right now? Would you like to call her out right now?

[Monet X Change]

I love Rihanna, but I have no expectations of anything from Rihanna. Like, all the stuff I see online. Obviously that's being silly and Rihanna hates me. Yeah, yada, yada, whatever. But I don't have any false sense of any expectations from my admiration and love of her. And same thing with Chelsea. Chelsea is a parasocial relationship I had, but I've met the parasocial. I've met her. And Chelsea was so sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now you're calling calling Chelsea a parasite.

[Monet X Change]

I met the parasite, but Chelsea was so sweet and so kind and honestly, because there's also this thing too. Never meet your idols. Michelle Visage is really big on that because when famously, when she met Madonna or like, Madonna has put out a

[Bob the Drag Queen]

thing on her, a hit. Wait, let's talk about. Let's talk about Madonna's hit on Michelle Visage after this break.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, so Madonna put a hit on Michelle Visage.

[Monet X Change]

Madonna did not put a hit out on Michelle Visage, but she did, like, famously sent her a cease and desist. Because Michelle used to like. Michelle, like, loved Madonna. Like, dressed up like her. Like, used to, like, emulate her. Madonna, her team was like, you gotta chill.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, if you read Michelle's book, a lot of people recount a story where Michelle wore This one outfit to this ball, and then Madonna wore it in the Vogue video.

[Monet X Change]

So who's really.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. Michelle's book is actually really interesting. You know, Michelle. Michelle Visage is like a. Is like a ballroom queen. She, like, snatched trophies.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, it's. It is wild.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch face Visage, honey. Face the face the face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was actually mostly known for voguing. Old way.

[Monet X Change]

Old. I would love to see Michelle vogue some old way. Also, when you meet there's videos, you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

don't even have to look very hard. Bitch. Google Michelle.

[Monet X Change]

I'm saying, like, now, like, I want, like, for one. For one challenge. The category is balls. Whatever. Like an actual ball. Like, what, a dragger's gonna do an actual ball ball and have, like, a specialist bitch. Joggers have bitches doing cartwheels and flips, and they're like, we want you to be cheerleaders. I think if they did like, a ball. Like a ball ball, and have, like, Deshawn, have Leomi and like, teach the girls how to do, like, the different categories. Old way Vogue, like, all that stuff, it would be so cool that drag race do a ball ball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it would be really cool. Did do Vogue on that British TV show.

[Monet X Change]

She did Vogue by Madonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, on Dance with the Stars.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's called us simply dancing or just dancing.

[Monet X Change]

Strictly. Just Strictly. Strictly come dancing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Niggas be dancing. Niggas just dancing.

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Just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just.

[Monet X Change]

She did do that. She. She danced to a Vogue by Madonna on Strictly Come Dancing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She went home at the show.

[Monet X Change]

She was. Oh, really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm pretty sure she went home. I'm almost sure she went home.

[Monet X Change]

That episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm. I'm almost 100% sure.

[Monet X Change]

Can we. Can we do a little. A little. A little. A little White House fact checking on Ms. Bob? But yeah, so I feel like my Chelsea navigating my Chelsea parasocial relationship was great, and it ended up. I end up meeting. Meeting Chelsea, who I admired her for a very long time, and she was really sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What about you have a certain level of privilege and access that allows you to meet your. The celebrities?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because, you know, you're a celebrity yourself and you have a podcast and you're on a television show, and you're also really good friends with Bob the drag queen, who makes a lot of these interactions happen.

[Monet X Change]

You did not make the Chelsea interaction happen. Let's be very clear.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did make the Chelsea interaction happen. You realize that.

[Monet X Change]

We did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We did it back and forth.

[Monet X Change]

Let me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me I did Chelsea's podcast. So she did my podcast. That was literally a back and forth.

[Monet X Change]

Let me break this down for y'. All. What happened? So after the infamous. When I filmed the episode of the podcast in Portland, and Bob and I had the thing, and Bob was like, oh, no. And I was explaining to what happened, like, the next week, our man, our podcast agent, Stephen. Stephen from Cedar71. I love Stephen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You are, bitch. Maybe those little CBD pills are kicking in. Maybe you're still wondering what life is. Bitch, you are off the walls today.

[Monet X Change]

I want to make sure I get his name right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You'll love it. Go, Baloba.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Steven Perlstein. Stephen Perlstein, who is a bigwig over at Suda 71. Like, the next week, he was like, oh, my God. Chelsea and her team heard your podcast with Bob about missing her, and she's really sorry. She wants to set up. She wants to set you up with tickets in for the show in May. And then they emailed both Bob and I about this, and I was like, oh, my God. Freaking out. I was like, yes, please. I would love to get tickets to it. She wants you in, Bob, to come to her show. And. And then Bob ended up doing her podcast, and then Chelsea ended up doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, so what I'm saying is I did her podcast, and then I invited her to do our podcast, and that's how you ended up meeting through the podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but not. But what we said was the tickets. You said. You said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just said tickets. I said, I'm the reason you met Chelsea Handler. Rewind it back. Rewind it back, bitch. Rewind it back. I said, I'm the reason. You heard.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, rewind it back is being redundant. It just said rewind, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. Now we're. Now we're coming for my syntax. Mm.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no. Sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ooh.

[Monet X Change]

Jay, I'm gonna send a screenshot of this email because this is her asking to be on our podcast and when we can do her podcast on February 14, 2022.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's just say we didn't do her podcast, honey, because the day that they

[Monet X Change]

offered, I could not do. Honey, go back to your emails. On February 14th, we're gonna post a screenshot, and you guys are reading it right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's just say her podcast isn't.

[Monet X Change]

And it's as sweet as Saint L. Lucia. It's as sweet as Saint Lucia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, Monet, one day you can just say, wow, Bob helped me with this. Bob, there is.

[Monet X Change]

There is no shortage of Proof of me saying how much you have helped me and how much I admire you and how much you have helped me. But I have to give you the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

fact, baby, just like the fact there's no shortage of proof of your foot, though you still deny it.

[Monet X Change]

I've often said all the times you hold me up, honestly, I probably say too much. This is not one of them. This is something that we both got offered, but that I could have do that. You stole my moment in the sun with jealousy on her podcast first, and then she did ours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm going to do this anyway. And I do think that, you know, I have. I was a really. Still am a really big fan of Whoopi Goldberg, have been for a very, very long time. And I ended up meeting her at the late Gilbert Gottfried's show because we were both in the New York Comedy Festival, and Whoopi Goldberg did Gilbert Godfrey's podcast. And during the show, she was talking about how she had a tattoo on her chest of, like, some banner, someone that she likes, and she showed them, and I was like, that's Whoopi telling me to show her my Whoopi Goldberg tattoo. So then I showed her the tattoo, and then she was like, wait, you're Bob the Drag Queen? My granddaughter loves you. And then I was like, oh, that's. Yeah. And then we ended up. Then she ended up being like, you need to. Will you FaceTime? My grand. My. My granddaughter. I was like, yeah. And then I was, you.

[Monet X Change]

Like, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like, if we can get a picture. And then she was like, you know what? Come to my birthday party. It's in Las Vegas. And then she was like, come to the View. And then if we just everyone out, then we just kind of text back and forth. I text her today for Mother's Day. I talked to Happy, happy Mother's Day today, actually.

[Monet X Change]

What did she say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She said that she said, thank you, basically, in so many. In so many words. She said, many, many thanks for that. You know, in my heart, I claim you as one of my children, Bob. Lots of love. Whoop.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I love that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And last night, I had a really crazy interaction with Wanda Sykes. I just love her so much, too, you know?

[Monet X Change]

How was that? How was Wanda?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was. It was a great. You don't know. I was. I emceed the Netflix standout comedy special last night at the Greek Theater and

[Monet X Change]

about to have a whole bunch of specials. Huh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To put out at the. At the Greek Theater in. In Griffith Park. It was really kind of wild. Actually, this is a wild day. Like there were so many big names there. Rosie o', Donnell, Wanda Sykes, Billy Eichner, Sarah Paulson, Lily Tomlin.

[Monet X Change]

Sarah Paulson. She did stand up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Sarah Thompson. Sarah Paulson introduced Sandra Bernhardt.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, about to say what? Sarah Paulson. I had no idea, dude. I was also realizing too, I was like, they have a lot of these people who are really, who are very funny actors, but they're not stand up comedians. Like for example, I mean, I don't know if he had a life as a stand up comedian, but Steve Carell, someone is so fucking funny to me. But I don't, or at least I don't. I'm ignorant to his standup if he ever did it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think Steve Carell did stand up comedy. But you have people like Sean Hayes. I don't think S.E. hayes does stand up. Yeah, he's so funny. I don't think Megan Mulally does stand up. But I mean being funny and doing stand up are definitely, I mean, not everyone wants to go do comedy. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

This is true. This is true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One man shows and one woman shows and you know, one person shows that aren't that also don't consider themselves stand up comedians either.

[Monet X Change]

I guess, like, I guess Whoopi would be one of those whooping, never did stand up. But she did great wonderment shows which are, they're so. It's really brilliant her playing like so many characters. They're really, really, really, really, really dope. But yeah, I guess, yeah, that makes sense. But I would love to see a Sean. I mean, maybe he has done them and again, I'm ignorant. I don't know. I would, I would pay tickets, I would pay money to go see a Sean Hayes one man show. Probably be really brilliant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you, how do you feel about your fans? Do you like them or do you hate them?

[Monet X Change]

I love my fans. You don't hate them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, why do you act like that?

[Monet X Change]

No, not, no, no, no. I love my band. Those are people who like, who are really like die hard and like. And it is nice to know that there is like a segment of people who really like the work I do, who are really admired the work I do, who love my drag and love and love the different parts of me and good, bad and ugly. Right? Because not everyone is good all the time. But there have been moments I have been where I have had a bad day and I've tweeted something wrong. Really. Or did a been annoyed by something and Posted on Instagram and those or

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, a day where you like.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, go ahead. What bit you gonna try to do? A day when you like. Yeah, but it's nice to know that there is that segment of people on the Internet that really love and really admire you. It feels very good. What are you laughing at?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just laughing about you. Never. Just. You ever make yourself laugh, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

Everyone has been a prisoner to you making yourself laugh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I just tickled myself and I was. I was trying to be nicer. I'm trying to be nicer. That's why I didn't drag your bitch ass. No, that's why I didn't drag you just now. You're welcome, nigga.

[Monet X Change]

You can't drag shit. Only thing you can drag is your face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever had a bad interaction with your fans? Have you ever, like, been.

[Monet X Change]

Do you hate your fans? Cause some. Cause some might think sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why? Why would they think I hate my fans?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. Just interactions. I'm a fan of you, and you've done things that. I feel very mean to me, so, you know, that may incite someone to, you know, not react nicely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, give me some examples, some mean things I've done to you. I'm willing to atone within reason.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't want to drag on this podcast. I do want to. I do want to keep the lightheartedness of this podcast. I don't want you. I don't want to drag you in front of, you know, your little friends watching the stream.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Light heart these nuts. Honey, honey.

[Monet X Change]

No, thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Be dragging that foot after the show in the. The hour, the 100th hour of the show.

[Monet X Change]

I'm. I'll drag it. I'm about to drag you by them fucking knees, them kneecaps.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I've had interactions with fans that are. Sometimes I. I told everyone about the time I was. That. That I was arguing with the guy at the Jada Hudson concert. And then one time. I mean, Jada Hudson show. One time, a guy came up to me at a. At a club club. I was in Tennessee. I was actually watching Cameron Michaels perform before she's on Drag Race. And this guy came up to me in club. He was like, girl, I see you being incog Negro. And I was like, what?

[Monet X Change]

He's obviously not black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was not black. I said, excuse me, Jacob, shut the hell up.

[Monet X Change]

Work. Not Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He goes, I see you being incog Negro. And I was like, you just call me a negro? And he was like, you know what I mean? And I was like, I. I don't. And I was like, I'm just gonna go. And then he goes, answer to me this question. Are you sick of cute little redhead twinks coming up to you and telling you how amazing you are? And I said, I'm. This is a lot. This is. This is. This is a lot. You know, in my head, I'm thinking to myself, like, I'm still just reeling from you calling me a Negro. Just walking up to me and calling me a Negro. And then he goes. And I said, I'm just gonna go. And he goes, well, at least just give me a hug or something. And I was like, why don't you do it? Cause I don't like hugging people, Monet. You know, I don't love hugging.

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Wow.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't feel like hugging him. He's your fan. He came to that bar to tell you how much he loathes. And you can. The least you can do is not hug him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I don't think that I owe hugs to people.

[Monet X Change]

You know, we were all right about you all, Bob. Directing fans. You were right about her. This the kind of girl that we love and support y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All. Y' all were right.

[Monet X Change]

Here we are with our queen when

[Bob the Drag Queen]

all of y' all decided that Bob. Bob has every right to. To create her own boundaries. You were right.

[Monet X Change]

Fuck your boundaries, bitch. And then he's my. What I need.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If any kind of just, like, stood off, like, while, like, watch. Like, watching me all night, but tweeting about me while looking at me.

[Monet X Change]

So my phone keeps buzzing, like, bad tweets.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tweeting stuff like, met Bob the drag Queen. What a bitch. Like, stuff like that. Not quite those words, but stuff like that. Like, tweeting at me in the bar while, like, looking at me. And I was like, this is wild. This is wild.

[Monet X Change]

And did you. You should just blocked him was. It was like, up your knife.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was just kind of like this. Like, this, like, little redhead Twink just kept. Kept, like, being like, he was really mad that I didn't hug him. I think he was also a little drunk, too, quite frankly.

[Monet X Change]

I would have blocked him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I probably did. Probably at some point. I don't know. He wasn't. Okay. He wasn't. It wasn't like, eight tweets. It was like two tweets. And I was like, this guy is wild. This is wild. This is. This feels wild.

[Monet X Change]

The way you set it up in my mind, it was like 40 tweets. Ugh. Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

He was like, why you no he was like, not this. He was like, why did you choose Violet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. He was, like, looking at me all night, but then tweeting every once in a while. It was.

[Monet X Change]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was very strange. Very, very strange.

[Monet X Change]

Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But for the most part, I mean, usually my interactions with people are really chill. Like, I don't have a lot of interactions that revolve around, like, me being particularly upset with people or. Or usually them being upset with me. I do remember one time, you and I, we had. I. I tried to get us tickets to go see Bet Midler and hello, Dolly, but I got tickets for the wrong day. So me and Monet had to just leave the theater. And we were leaving the theater, and we were trying to run to our Uber, and this girl was like, are you Bob the Drag Queen? And I was like, yeah. She goes, can I get a picture? I go, sure. We took a quick picture. And then Monet's gonna deny this. I swear, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then she said, are you Monet? Exchange. And then Monet said, I get that all the time.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then she was like, huh? And she's like, yeah, people always say that. And she was holding her phone, and she was like, wait, what?

[Monet X Change]

And I was like, yeah. People tell me. I look at Monet's face. I'm not, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she was like, are you Bob? And I was like, yes. And she goes, are you Monet?

[Monet X Change]

I was like, no. Because I think about sometimes with pictures, people want a picture, but it's like, a day you just don't feel the best about your thing. Like that day, I probably had, like, a fucking zit on my forehead. I was like, you know, I'm not. I don't want to take pictures today. But when you tell someone that you don't want to take pictures, it's kind of like the interaction when you're at the gym and you're sweaty and they see you, and they're like, it's a picture. And they're like, no, it's okay. I don't want to take a picture. It's like, no, it's. I don't care. I was like, bitch, I care. I'm sweating. They're like, I knew it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They came with that. I look horrible. I don't mind.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, I don't care. I'm like, bitch, it's not about you. It's about me. I care. It was probably one of those days. And then we were, like, trying to get in our Uber. And then, like, when. Are you sure? Then it would have been like a five minute conversation about not taking a picture. So I was like, I just, I'm not her. Nah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just say, I do say no to pictures sometimes. And most of the time, but because of the way I say it, most of the time, people are really chill about it most of the time. Every once in a while, they're really ornery about it. And I'm like, I don't know what to tell you, baby. I don't know what to tell you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but how do I think of like, other. Like, I do feel not Drag Race is so unique, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag Race really is a social phenomenon in my opinion, though.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, in terms of. But yes, that I agree. But like how we. How Dragon's fans interact with like their fans as opposed to other reality competition shows. Like, for example, like in Drag Race, like a lot of people from the show. And again, I'm not saying, and I'm not speaking absolutes, but many people from Drag Race, they go on to make careers and depend on like fans, like buying tickets to see their shows or this and the other. Whereas someone like Survivor, I'm sure if you like people start little companies and they start like a candle company, whatever,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and you not low confidence, not low confidence. So you start to look confident.

[Monet X Change]

Your perception how people perceived you on the show to help propel that. I do feel like Dragons is a little different. Cause like on shows like Big Brother, like Survivor, except for Todrick apparently, because, like, you want Survivor and like, we love the villains on Survivor, right? Y' all know. Y' all know who I'm talking about. But, but in terms of Drag Race,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like the villains Todrick's shows are, he's selling pretty well. I don't think Todrick's really, Todrick's doing is really suffering from.

[Monet X Change]

This is true. I'm saying, like how people react to villains on reality competition show, like, normally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it's changed. Well, that's changed a lot over time because I feel like RuPaul's Drag Race people used to love the villains. People loved Alyssa Edwards, people love Alachashi. But then at a certain point, people just started really, really hating the villains. And also I think it depends on what kind of villain you are. Like Jeremy Carey, people, he did not have a good reaction with the fans. Jeremy Carey, formerly known as Fifi o'. Hara, he didn't have a good reaction with the fans. He really, he. He really did not have a good interaction. Like he was getting a lot of for a very, very long time. About his time on Drag Race, and I think that it really had a negative impact on him and how he felt. And. But then you have people like Alyssa, who was pretty wild on the show. She was.

[Monet X Change]

Alyssa was wild. But again, you're talking about, like, Violet was one. The fans did not like Violet for a long time. Also, what it is. Violet was a villain. But because Violet was so exemplary in fashion, people were like. It was like. It reminded me of that bitchy supermodel that is like, they're allowed to be mean because they're pretty. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that that is an aspect of it. And I think Alyssa. Alyssa was the villain. I wouldn't say Alyssa was not the villain. Roxxxy Andrews was the villain of that season. Alyssa Edwards was not the villain.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was Ava.

[Monet X Change]

She was not like Roxy for. Yeah, but Roxy Andrews was like, the villain. Alyssa Edwards. She had, like, a little bit of villain in her, but she was so endearing and so engaging that fans like fans, really, because she was a villain. But there was, like, some, like, a little bit of congeniality in there, too. Not like how you went in a pageant, but something about Alyssa, like, the way that she was on the show, like, it really. Sorry, not congeniality. Fan favorite. There we go. She had that in her. So people really looked past the villainous stuff because they really loved her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I loved the term congeniality recently, and it did not mean what I thought it meant.

[Monet X Change]

What did it mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Congenial. Let me find this. What do you think it means before? Because I thought it meant, like, nice and friendly.

[Monet X Change]

I think congeniality is the person who

[Bob the Drag Queen]

is. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

When I put him in honesty, I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

thought a congenial person was someone who's just really nice. A congenial person is someone who is perceived as nice because their interests are similar to your own. Congenital. So congeniality is really based on what you have in common with the person. Right. So it's like, if I think.

[Monet X Change]

Makes sense, because if I think you're

[Bob the Drag Queen]

nice because we have a lot in common, then you. Then you are congenial. If I think you're nice because we have a lot in common and our interests are similar, then that's. So it's, like, pleasant because of a personality quality or interest that are similar to one's own.

[Monet X Change]

The reason why it makes sense in the pageant is because you have similar interests in getting the crown. But through that, you're still being a nice person. Like, you want to win just as bad as I do. But through that, you're still maintaining niceness. Niceties. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I just did not know this, what congenial meant. I just thought it just meant really nice, like a nice person.

[Monet X Change]

So I definitely am Miss Congeniality, then. Because, you know, I wanted to win, but I was still very sweet and very kind to everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you. And you had. Did you think you had a lot in common with everyone on your season? Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Or were you drag? I mean, I think that's a big comment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone from your season still doing drag.

[Monet X Change]

Let's go down the list. When I said Vanjie Mateo. Yes. Calorie Kardashian. Calorie just got engaged to their partner. So congratulations on your new engagement.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do y' all have, like, a group chat? Y' all be. Y' all be checking into still?

[Monet X Change]

No, I just saw her online, babe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, she's saying Callie doesn't have your number.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, she does. Vanessa is still a drag. Calorie does still drag. Two days, three days ago, she posted this beautiful look on Cinco de Mayo with the roses. She looks gorgeous. Calorie. Who is next?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, God.

[Monet X Change]

Cast of Yuha Hamasaki still doing drag. Bootleg opinions turn up. Dusty Ray Bottom is still doing dragons. I just saw her and her husband post something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mayhem.

[Monet X Change]

Mayhem Miller. Still doing drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eureka.

[Monet X Change]

Eureka's still doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No Eureka.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, we're going in. Elimination.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just reading off a list.

[Monet X Change]

Mayhem Miller. Blair Sinclair is still doing drag. She was just illegally blonde in Indianapolis. Bob and I tried to get tickets, but we missed it. The Vixen is still doing dragons.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blessing.

[Monet X Change]

Monique Heart. I don't know if she is Mohart. I don't know what. The Vixen is still doing drag. Oh, the Mohart. Mohart is still doing drag. I don't know if the Vixen is still doing drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet x Change.

[Monet X Change]

Monet x Change is still doing drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Miz Cracker.

[Monet X Change]

Miz Cracker is still doing drag. Still doing drag. Asia o'. Hara. Still doing drag. Eureka. Eureka. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Aquarium.

[Monet X Change]

They're all still doing drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nice.

[Monet X Change]

What about your cast? Is everyone still doing drag?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One of my castmates has passed away, and Robbie Turner does not do dragon anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Is that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that.

[Monet X Change]

Is that proven? Do we know for sure?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like if Robbie Turner turned up somewhere, everyone would be like, oh,

[Monet X Change]

bitch, Robbie turned up. Turner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Robbie just turned up. I think we'd all. I think if Robbie turned up, we'd all know.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch. You know who is doing drag again? I have them blocks I don't see Sherry Pie. She has a new pictures. She has new pictures on her Instagram taken by fucking people. By bitch. I gagged.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I got blocked, so I don't think I can find her.

[Monet X Change]

Or maybe there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or maybe I blocked her.

[Monet X Change]

Someone showed me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did I block her? Did she block me? I don't know which one it was. Oh, I blocked her. But she's back on. She's back, back, back, back again.

[Monet X Change]

Yep. She has new drag pictures and new looks. Honey,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not as think as you stoned I am April 20th. It's a picture of her. Oh, I got it. And she's like, I'm trying to see. Oh, the interesting comment section. Like, she's really filtered it out. Nice to see you. Come back. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

You have any negative comments?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Probably amazing. Mama, we need to see the pictures of your runways for season 12 because they were fire. Every single one of them says yes. Mama. Everyone deserves a second or third chance. Damn. Or third.

[Monet X Change]

Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How many chances we getting? It's a second or third chance. Bring back Madame Bubbles. Perfecto.

[Monet X Change]

This is Madame Bubbles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This feels wild.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, girl. She's back, back, back again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, that's kind of a parasocial relationship, too. I mean, I did have a slight professional relationship with Sherry Pie, but not. Not a whole lot.

[Monet X Change]

So you guys were friends?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were not friends. Sherry probably won a pageant that I did. And then I was part of a meeting.

[Monet X Change]

Like, y' all went to pageant together or you mean a pageant you formed?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She went a pageant that I produced.

[Monet X Change]

Work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then she also ended up. Then I had like a meeting with her because she got mad at Mitch because Mitch pretty much took over the pageant. And then Mitch was like, well, I don't want you to host Liquing. He was like, I'm just not interested in you hosting Liquing. And then she got mad and she was like, well, I should be hosting Liquing. Every winner of everyone who's won Liquing has hosted Liquing. And Mitch was like, that's not true. Aquaria didn't host Liquing. And she was like, well, I want to host Liquin. And Mitch was like, well, I don't want you to bitch. So what of it? Not like that. It was so many words. And I was there at that meeting as like, the. The founder of Liquid. It was very interesting.

[Monet X Change]

Zilla Queen. Yeah. So she's. She. She's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know. You know, she's going to hear this.

[Monet X Change]

She got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She probably got a Google alerts. Every time her name pops up.

[Monet X Change]

How do you. How do you. How do you. How do you random. How do you random. How do you manage messy parasocial relationships? Like toxic ones? Like, for example, Tamisha Mongate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think that means you were considered a parasocial relationship. I think that we had an. I mean, there was something. There was some sort of relationship there. As a matter of fact, I think at first it was parasocial because I was admiring her, and she didn't know. She didn't know who I was.

[Monet X Change]

But you, like, wrote music and for her. So, like, y', all, like, knew each other?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I don't think if two celebrities.

[Monet X Change]

I had. I was parasocial. I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Two celebrities are beefing. That's parasocial relationship. I think that's just a relationship. That's an actual relationship where the two are.

[Monet X Change]

Is it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, by.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

By the.

[Monet X Change]

By the. By the 79 definitions we have. Who fucking knows?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I mean, but that doesn't fall into any of our definitions. I think that that would be, like, just. Just like, a fan admiring. I think if two celebrities are beefing, it's just an act. That's just an actual relationship.

[Monet X Change]

Unclear. Maybe. I mean, maybe. I guess, yeah, because they both. They both aware of each other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think a toxic idea of a parasocial relationship would be something along the lines of, like, you releasing a song and then one of your fans. Well, actually is a perfect example of a very upsetting parasocial relationship. You know, Bjork, of course, Bjork had a stalker, a very intense stalker. And I'm trying to find out his name.

[Monet X Change]

Stalker? I don't even know her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

His name was Ricardo Lopez. She had a very intense stalker named Ricardo Lopez. And in the 90s, Bjork dated a rapper, and Ricardo Lopez was very, very upset about it. And, like, did not like that she was dating this. This black guy and he was sending her all these, like, letters. He was just obsessed with Bjork, everything she did. And he was working as an exterminator. And then he made a bomb. He made a bomb and sent it to her. But not like the exploding bomb. It was a. It was a book. He made a book for her. And then when you open the book, acid shoots out of the book and will maul your face, will disfigure you. I mean, will disfigure your face. He even did, like, a test run of it. He also documented all of this. And by the way, I'm gonna Tell you right now, I do not recommend you look this up. I do not recommend you look this up. This is a trigger warning. I'm gonna give y' all a trigger warning right now. There is gun violence unaliving in this story. So trigger warning.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, wait. So he did that. He did the test on himself, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

he filled it with ink in this video. He. He opened this book and then it shot black ink out at him. And then he. And then he made the book and he sent it to Bjork. And then when he. As he mailed it off, he. He shot himself and filmed all of it. And. And he documented the making of the thing. Him listening to Bjork, him going wild, like, screaming at the camera at Bjerg. It was all very, very unsettling.

[Monet X Change]

And so that's how they knew for her not to get the package, because

[Bob the Drag Queen]

he recorded himself shooting himself. And then there was obviously a gunshot. And then the cop showed up. There was a camera set up, and they watched it, and then they intercepted the package.

[Monet X Change]

Girl. Yeah, that's. Damn, that's wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So that's. That's. That's a truly toxic, parasocial relationship. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's wild. But Bjork was aware of him, right? So by your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she was not aware of him.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, she didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because this was. No, There was no. This was 1996. There was no Twitter. There was no. There was no. There was no way. There was very few ways to get in contact with your favorite celebrity back then. So I don't think Bjork even knew this guy.

[Monet X Change]

Only fan mail. People have, like, fan mail and PO Box, so you can send shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I don't think Bjork even knew this guy existed, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Got it. Damn. Yeah, that's wild. I mean, I've never had any crazy. I've never had a soccer fan or anything like that. I've never experienced anything like that. But there was one time there was a gig in. It was right when season 11 was announced. There was a gig in Boston. A legacy in Boston. It was myself. It was a big cast of girls. Jujubee was hosting it. This is. I mean, back in, what, 2018. And it was Jujubee hosting it. Naomi was there, I was there. Monique Hart. This is when Plastique had just come out. So we were just getting familiar with Plastique and she was there. It was Plastique's first gig since her cast was announced. So it was her first interaction to the meet and greets and everything like that. So we all doing a thing. We go to this meet and greet, and then we're sitting down, and all the fans are lining up. Long line. And then this guy, like, comes, breaks the line. He's like, by the little gate they had us gated off. He's like, plastique, my daughter wants a picture with you. And then Plastique Nano had to handle it. She's like, just like, ha ha. And then the promoter is supposed to bring the guy to the line, and he's like, plastique, my daughter wants a picture with you. Plastique is like, yeah, baby. We're in the meet and greet. She's like, make sure you get online. And he's like, no, my daughter wants a picture of Plastique. And he starts pushing the gate and trying to get to Plastique. And then all of like this. And then me and Naomi get up. We're like, sir sitting. Like, you cannot do this. We don't have. The promoter's, like, watching us. And then Plastique, she looks so freaked out. Cause I guess she's never had this kind of interaction. He started all of you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You guys hate.

[Monet X Change]

You guys hate my daughter. My daughter wants a picture with Plastique. And he's like, pushing the gate. It was wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is he with his daughter?

[Monet X Change]

The daughter wasn't there. That was the weird part. Like, there was no daughter in sight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was like, come back to my house and get a picture with my daughter. I need you to come with me. Get in my car.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it was very strange.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was very terrified. Especially, you know, in 2016, which is the year that I won drag Race. Christina Grimmie in Florida, which is in a venue that I performed at. Actually, she was same.

[Monet X Change]

I performed there too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was shot in a venue that worked the world used to go to. And I just remember being, like, terrified. Like, just like someone just came up to her and just. I think it was at a meet and greet. Just came up and just.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, so Christina Groeny, she was on American Idol, and she was doing a live performance on this really nice venue in Orlando. And one of this guy, he was like. He was like a big fan of hers. He came and he had a gun, and he shot her at, like, in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the chest and in the head.

[Monet X Change]

He got chest and the head. Yeah, it was wild. And, you know, so, yeah, honestly, artists are pretty exposed. Like, you just never know. Like, you just never know what? Like, even Dave Chappelle at Netflix is a joke. Did you see that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I just did. I just Did. I was just a part of Netflix as a joke. I was not at that. I was not at that event.

[Monet X Change]

He was on stage. You were there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was at a different event. I was at the gay stuff.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. De Chappelle was doing his set and this guy rushed to stage with like a New age bayonet. It was like a handgun with like a knife taped onto the end of it, like a bayonet. But it was fake. It wasn't a real gun, but it was. I don't know if it was a real knife, but it was a knife. They thought it. And he like rushed the stage and like, you know, Dave's crew got the guy together and bitch, they twisted him up. He got a pretzel. Bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He got beat up pretty badly and he was.

[Monet X Change]

His arms were like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone thought that it was a video of like, he was. It was like him advocating for trans rights. But I think it was just a person struggling with. With mental illness. He was unhoused. He was struggling with illness. And he also, I think he also had a slight Dave Chappelle obsession. They went back to his SoundCloud and he had a song called Dave Chappelle Work. So I think he had like a slight obsession with Dave Chappelle.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but you know, as parasocial. Parasocial relationships will always be a thing. You know, it'll exist until the end of time. I think, you know, it's just trying your best to. In case they do turn toxic like this. I don't know, it's like really surrounding yourself with people who can help protect you and monitor that for you. But you don't know when you're making a stalker. You don't know what amazing thing you're gonna do. You know, other people are gonna be like, oh my God, I love you so much. And they. And someone may develop this like, stalker esque relationship with you. And it's like, how do you, you know there's nothing you can do to stop that? You can just only do your shit, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's. Sometimes it does concern me and it is very scary. Anyway, I love you very much.

[Monet X Change]

Are we at time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are at time, Mary.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, well, you don't get to stop this podcast. You can go about your business.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't talk to everybody yourself.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna talk to. I, I just open my Instagram real quick and this very beautiful man just popped up on my screen. Look how beautiful this man is. I want to get. If I get a little too pit,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I Just started, like, obsessing over him.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want to sound like Reign of Stephen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Talk about parasocial Reign of Steve. There was this guy I just saw, and I was like. I was like, I. This person. I have a folder on my phone called Pretty. Called Pretty Boys. And who did I just add to this? Is that the same? Is it the same guy? Yes, it's lit. It's literally the exact same guy, but for me, it was this picture.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, bitch. Love also bitch. Megan, thee stallion's hair guy. Kehlan, he is. Oh, yeah, yeah, Kehlan. Derek, he does all. He is Megan Desallion's hair man. He is so fucking hot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, can you send me his? Oh, now we're exploring me and Monet's parasocial relationship where we don't. Where they don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Kellon, Derek, it's a view. I'll tell it to you right now. Where is. Where's your little name? Where your little name at?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm Bob the Drag Queen. The honey. The. On Instagram, the Bob the Drag Queen. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Honey, you're not the Bob the Dragon, bitch. You don't know your own fucking handle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're Bob the Dragon. I'm saying I'm Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm telling you, I am the Bob the Drag Queen, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, Kehlan, he is beautiful. That is a beautiful, sexy man.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Very, very, very beautiful. What are you.

[Monet X Change]

Right? And for the fact, knowing that he does hair to me, that adds another layer of fucking hotness. I'm like,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

this is like. Jada S. Is hauling her husband. You trying to steal Jada husband, bitch?

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Jada's husband is turning. He is the hottest one in town, bitch. He is getting wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we're saying husband. We don't know if they're actually married, but. But he. But they.

[Monet X Change]

No, they're not married, but they have a very long term relationship. Okay. Also one more. Tell me, Bob. I'm gonna show you someone. Tell me who this person. Tell me who this person reminds you of if you saw this person, like, obviously a thicker. Like a. You know, I'm not gonna give you too much lead and tell me who this person reminds you of in the final p.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I am hungry.

[Monet X Change]

What does this look like?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you didn't say. You got to send it to me, Mary. Oh, I'm not looking. Trying to wince. My eyes.

[Monet X Change]

Your eyes gonna start matching. Your knees disintegrated.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shut the fuck off.

[Monet X Change]

You're ridiculous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're absolutely ridiculous.

[Monet X Change]

Who does this person look like?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, let's see.

[Monet X Change]

When I saw. I was like, bitch, is this your twin brother from the Multiverse?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't see anyone in this person, but, like.

[Monet X Change]

But, like, more in shape, taller, built.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one. This is not anyone, Bob. This is not a person. I know.

[Monet X Change]

Jay Defeo. Does he not look like. Does he look like a really muscular Jay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe if he said he was Jay DeFeo's cousin, I'd be like, yeah, sure, you could be cousins. But I don't think he looks like Jay DeFeo. If Jay DeFeo said, this is my cousin, I wouldn't be like, this doesn't even seem like you're from the same gene pool.

[Monet X Change]

He looks like a muscular Jay. I was like, jay, this is like. Also, I'm all up in the multiverse. I saw WandaVision, not WandaVision. Multiverse of Madness.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And plus, you're still high from that edible, so you still. You don't even know if you exist at this point.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it was the Lost Farms Kiva Edibles. Girl, that shit got me wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I have a sneaking suspicion Jay won't do this, but, Jay, I need you to put a picture of yourself side by side with this guy so the audience can tell us if you look alike. Like, or not.

[Monet X Change]

I think they definitely look alike. Vajay? Yes, please. Thank you so much. Put your. Put your pictures.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right. Anyway, bye. What?

[Monet X Change]

I'm avoiding me? You've been avoiding me. You know you have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y'.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

What Monday's not telling you that. I have just been working on a We're Here. So I've been gone for a lot of time, but I came back and I went straight into rehearsals for the Netflix Is a Joke festival. But I've not been avoiding you. I spoke to you on the phone for, like, 40 minutes yesterday.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so that's it? Just 40 minutes work? You know what? That's fine. I don't want more than that, so that's fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, then I'm glad you're happy. As long as you're happy, I'm happy. Yeah. Goodbye, Monet.

[Monet X Change]

Burn.

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