The One About Perception

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast: "The One About Perception"
Episode Date: August 19, 2024
Hosts: Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry dives into the theme of perception—both personal and public. Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen bring their classic banter and candid honesty, exploring how public figures are perceived online, reflecting on their own experiences with fame and audience feedback, and tackling celebrity narratives in the social media age. The conversation spans from lighthearted arguments about food and childhood weather memories to nuanced discussions of identity, parasocial relationships, and public criticism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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Food Cravings, Eating Habits, & Perceptions of Self

[04:52 - 08:51]

• Burger King Cravings: Monét shares her unusual craving for Burger King, detailing her indulgent order and the post-fast-food guilt (“…I fucked that burger all the way up. But when you’re finished eating that shit, you feel side feels. I feel so disgusting.” - Monét, [05:27]).

• Bob’s Perspective: Bob contrasts Monét by insisting he never feels disgusted with himself after eating—even recounting a time he could smell meat after a visit to a Brazilian "meat house" ([06:16]).

• Ordering Anxiety: Discussion of how some people agonize over food choices, especially when ordering delivery. Bob is chill; Monét relates to the emotional investment (“You want to eat that meal and feel so good about yourself…” - Monét, [07:48]).

• The Sauce Debate: The duo’s strong opinions about the importance of sauces and utensils—with Monét expressing true rage when her food arrives without enough dipping sauces ([08:51]) and Bob philosophizing about ranch versus barbecue coverage on nuggets.

• Utensil Preferences: Hilarious debate over the utility of spoons, forks, and even toothpicks for eating nuggets. Andy (Monét's boyfriend) prefers using a spoon for almost everything (“He’s like, there’s literally no reason to ever use a fork…” - Monét, [11:08]).

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Weather, Climate Change, & Childhood Memories

[12:15 - 15:27]

• Global Warming & El Niño: Monét describes the hotter, longer summers of her childhood in NYC versus today, using personal experience as evidence for climate change. Bob and Monét spar over the definition and relationship between El Niño, climate change, and global warming ([13:22]).

• Childhood Weather: Bob reminisces about being in Georgia, where warm weather has always stretched into the winter (“I’d be outside shirtless, playing football…and sweating.” - Bob, [14:22]).

• Sunblock & Self-Care: Quick aside about wearing SPF, with Bob gently encouraging Monét to use sunscreen every day ([15:09]).

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Perception of Gifts, Friendship, and Boundaries

[18:23 - 19:14]

• Gift-Giving Debate: A playful spat erupts after Bob reveals he threw away a ring from Monét, prompting a discussion about whether gifts can be disposed of without offending the giver. (“Throwing away some jewelry someone gave you, that’s shady.” - Monét, [19:11]; “Someone once told me that once someone gives you a gift, you can do whatever you want with it.” - Bob, [18:55]).

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Public Perception & The Impact of Reality TV

[20:15 - 26:58]

• How Are They Perceived?
  • Bob: Thinks he’s perceived as funny, political, opinionated, and an outspoken millennial ([25:34]).
  • Monét: Believes she’s seen as bubbly, kind, and a bit ditzy, largely due to her Drag Race “Miss Congeniality” edit—even though she wouldn’t call herself “bubbly” in real life ([26:27]).
  • The Power of TV Edits: They note the lasting impact of Drag Race personas and the difficulty of shifting public perceptions.

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Social Media, Parasocial Bonds, & the Shifting Tide of Celebrity

[33:33 - 47:08]

• Changing Public Favourites: Using Jennifer Lopez as a case study, Monet and Bob discuss how J.Lo’s public perception rapidly shifted from “America’s sweetheart” to “problematic” almost overnight, largely via social media narrative-building ([37:01]).

  • Debate whether J.Lo was ever seen as a “sweetheart”—Monét argues yes, Bob disagrees.
  • Commentary on the role of viral threads, TikTok, and “dogpile” stories in shaping or reshaping celebrity images.
  • The relativity of “nice” vs “mean” in celebrity: “I honestly don’t care if people are nice. Is she bad? Is she…like…there’s a difference between being a bad person and being a nice person” - Bob, [42:04].

• Parasocial Relationships: They highlight how social media creates false intimacy between fans and celebs, making it easier for the public to feel betrayed when the celebrity’s real-life personality clashes with an online persona ([45:37]; [46:08]).

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Criticism, “Nice” vs “Mean,” and Handling Hate

[47:25 - 56:12]

• Current Influencer Drama: References to Chris Olsen being harassed online, with critiques ranging from “cringe” behavior to negative glam bot appearances ([47:47]).

• Leaks and Boundaries: Brief talk about leaked nudes and how they’d hypothetically feel if it happened to them—Monét would “get over it,” Bob would be bewildered as he doesn’t take/send nudes ([48:33]).

• Influencer Backlash: In-depth look at Rob Anderson, noting backlash for political takes and comments about non-monogamy ([50:46] - [53:31]).

  • Discussion widens to include how both good looks and negative opinions attract hate.

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Beauty Standards, Jealousy, and Online Critique

[54:49 - 57:46]

• Why Hate Beautiful People?: Monét suggests that conventionally attractive, successful people are sometimes resented because "you just got everything, don't you?" ([55:15]).

  • Bob counters with the greater prevalence of fatphobia and racism, while acknowledging that envy of beautiful people does exist.

• Misreading Appearances: The dangers of assuming things about people’s bodies are illustrated with a story about nearly congratulating a woman for being pregnant when she wasn’t ([56:12]).

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Handling Public Negativity: Reading Comments, “Annoying” Labels, and Celebrity Irritation

[58:09 - 66:16]

• Tactics for Dealing with Hate:

  • Monét mostly blocks out haters, placing “hater blockers” and not letting nasty comments stick mentally. However, she recalls the anti-Black hate received during All Stars 4 ([58:18]).
  • Both discuss their reluctance to read negative social media comments, and the meaninglessness of feedback that just calls someone “annoying” with no specifics ([62:18]).

• Admitting Annoyance: Bob admits to blocking a viral couple he found irritating, and jokes about awkwardly encountering them at an awards show ([63:47]).

• Celebrities & Hate-Watching: Bob admits to “hate-watching” certain political TikTokers, while Monet struggles to name a celebrity she finds genuinely annoying, finally referencing Gia Gunn in a playful way ([66:42]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Dialogues

• On Eating Guilt:
  • "Throwing away a gym jewelry someone gave you. That's shady." – Monét, [01:30]
  • “I'm glad I ate that. I enjoyed it, and it was fun.” – Bob, [05:37]
• On Social Media Perception:
  • "I think people perceive me as generally very cherry bubbly. People perceive me as funny. I think people perceive me as being very sweet and kind and a little ditzy." – Monét, [26:07]
  • “There's a difference between being a bad person and being a nice person.” – Bob, [42:04]
• On Celebrity Critique:
  • “I honestly don't care if people are nice. Is she bad?... That doesn't mean she's mean or that she's bad, but I think being not nice is different than being mean, personally.” – Bob, [42:04]
  • “People hate me because I'm perfect and beautiful.” – Monét, [57:47]
• On Handling Hate:
  • "When I tell you I genuinely don't care, to be fair, you can't remember anything." – Bob, [59:10]
  • "I've received a lot of anti-black hate. Especially on All Stars 4." – Monét, [58:18]
• On Hate-Watching Online:
  • “There's this, like, black republican gay boy...He starts off with, like, a really hot take, and then he goes, 'now walk with me.' ...And it drives me crazy.” – Bob, [65:34]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Food cravings & guilt: [04:52] – [08:51]
• Ordering anxiety & sauce drama: [07:24] – [09:50]
• Utensil debate: [10:09] – [11:27]
• Climate change discussion: [12:15] – [15:27]
• Gift-giving & friendship boundaries: [18:23] – [19:14]
• Perception on Drag Race & reality TV: [20:15] – [26:58]
• Changing public favorites (J.Lo, social media): [33:33] – [37:01]
• Celebrity “nice/mean”—does it even matter?: [42:04] – [45:04]
• Influencers & social media takedowns: [47:25] – [53:31]
• Online envy, beauty & hate: [54:49] – [57:46]
• Public negativity, blocking out hate: [58:09] – [63:47]
• Hate-watching and celebrity annoyances: [64:07] – [66:16]

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Episode Highlights

• Monét and Bob’s natural chemistry: Their disagreements and playful shading provide rich, comedic insights into everyday struggles and deeper issues alike.
• Reflective honesty: The hosts are refreshingly open about the effects of public opinion, handling hate, and their true personalities versus public personas.
• Cultural critique: The conversation expands into thoughtful territory on how social media can both build and destroy celebrity images at warp speed.

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Final Thoughts

This episode blends signature Sibling Rivalry humor with real talk about perception—from self-image after a fast-food binge to how viral infamy and online culture shape (and sometimes warp) celebrity reputations. Monét and Bob seamlessly move from silly to serious, inviting listeners to reconsider both how they see others and how others see them.

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Fans of drag, pop culture debate, and messy, meaningful conversation will find this a quintessential Sibling Rivalry episode—full of both laughter and lucid cultural insight.

Transcript

[Monet Xchange]

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[Shannon Maldonado]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

my name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet Xchange]

And I'm Monet Xchange. And this is sibling rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On this week's episode, we talk about a little boy named El Nino.

[Monet Xchange]

We talk all about public perception.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We found out what made Monet say this.

[Monet Xchange]

Throwing away a gym jewelry someone gave you. That's shady. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I just feel. I feel. I feel like, glad I made that choice.

[Monet Xchange]

I hear it and I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that the actual lyric? I keep asking, is that what she says? I think she said, I hate it in my heart, maybe, or I feel it in my heart.

[Monet Xchange]

When Sapphira did the. When Sapphira did the vampire thing, did you get it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I guess it kind of made sense in that moment.

[Monet Xchange]

I didn't. I hear it and I hear, oh, I was right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know you want to take me home, Padom and get to know me close. Padom, Padom. When your heart goes Padom, Padam, I hear it and I know I killed that. Yes, I heard him. But I mean, I was like. I mean, heart, vampire blood kind of made sense.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. We never got to discuss it. I wish that she would have. It should have been the vampire. And at some point she took like a heart out of her chest and like bit it or something because she had the vampire teeth. I think that would have been sickening.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think she said that was the plan, but something went wrong.

[Monet Xchange]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like she said somewhere that was the plan. But something. Something didn't work or something didn't happen or something.

[Monet Xchange]

You know, yesterday, Bob and I hung out. We had such a good time. You came over here. We had Domino's. We watched Dexter together. I felt like I was reunited with my best friend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How did your Dexter podcast go today? Did you do. Did you talk about the surprise, motherfucker?

[Monet Xchange]

No, we didn't talk about that. But, bitch, the gag is we watched it in the podcast. I was like, I didn't even have to watch this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You watched it like, they play the audio during the podcast?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, we had little earwigs in and we watched the episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He had a wedding.

[Monet Xchange]

An earwig.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's an earwig?

[Monet Xchange]

The tiny little headphones you put in your ear that people can't see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who is this podcast for?

[Monet Xchange]

It's for Paramount. Plus, we watched it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, okay.

[Monet Xchange]

Interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess we'll move on.

[Monet Xchange]

Cause I don't know if the. The all Ruby reveal part is out yet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't ask any questions. You do not. I'm not asking you to explain. You explaining of your own volition at this point.

[Monet Xchange]

I said, okay, nigga, I ain't ask you no questions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet Xchange]

What does your shirt say? Orumple. Steelskin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mm. This is a show I did when I was in the Missoula Children's Theater right before I moved to New York City. I did this play.

[Monet Xchange]

Are you a big Grimm's Fairy Tale girly?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, no, I'm not big into Grimm's Fairy Tales.

[Shannon Maldonado]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some people are into.

[Monet Xchange]

Some people. I know, like, adults are into that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, who's really big into Grimm's fairies? I mean, I know, like, Disney girl, I'm sure. I mean, there's someone who's big into, like, pigeons. You know what I mean?

[Monet Xchange]

I know. That's why I was asking if you are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, I'm not. Monet. I'm not. I'm not. I feel like you would know if I was by now. I feel like at this point in our relationship, you would know if I was really big into Grimm's Fairy Tales.

[Monet Xchange]

Bob, things pop off all the time. You're like, I love that. And I'm like, bob, you're like Monet. Yes, I do. So that wouldn't be shocking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's. You not paying attention. That's me telling you that I like Willow Smith's music. Like, I just never thought you'd listen to Willow Smith's music. And then, like, the fifth time, you're like. You like Will Smith's.

[Jacob]

Music.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, yes, I do. You're like, whoa, that's crazy, because that just seemed like you would never like Willow Smith's music. And then it's that conversation, like, eight times in a row. That does happen.

[Monet Xchange]

Can't say anything. I did today. Like, I wonder, like, what chemically. Well, not what. Cause I understand chemically why it is, but sometimes I really think it's a figment of my imagination. Today I was craving Burger King so bad. Now, I have not had Burger King in maybe three years, but for some reason, today I was craving a fucking Whopper. So I drove over to that fucking Burger King. I got me. I got me a number one, no pickles with bacon and cheese. I got a large onion rings with two zesty sauces, and I fucked that burger all the way up. But when you're finished eating that shit, you feel side feels. I feel so disgusting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I'm not one of those people who feels disgusting after I eat. A lot of people mention feeling disgusting. I have never once in my life felt sick before. Like, I have had food that has actually made me sick, but I have never been like, I'm disgusted with myself. I'm like. I'm usually like, I'm glad I ate that. I enjoyed it, and it was fun. I have never felt disgusted with myself after eating. Literally. I'm trying to think really hard through my life. I have never felt disgusting after. I mean, there was one time where I was in Brazil and I went to this meat house. Is like, meat steakhouse place. Yeah, no, it was. It was called a meat house. It was not called a steak. It was called a meat house or something. The word meat was in there. That's all I remember.

[Jacob]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't remember the rest, but what I know is that when I left ice, I could smell meat coming off my skin. And that was not pleasant. I was like. I was like, jazz smell like meat. And when I was younger, there were times where I drank so much. The next day I woke up and my skin smelled like vodka. But I never feel disgusted with myself after eating. Especially, like, a burger. I think it's a burger. If I ate one burger, I would not feel disgusted. One burger, girl.

[Monet Xchange]

No, I think it was the grease and all the things I had, the large onion rings. But to be honest, I have not, like, I haven't been, like, eating heartily in a little while. So I think when I go off, like, a long time of, like, not eating heartily, and I have, like, A big meal that has like, a lot of stuff and like a lot of sauces and that. I think that's when it happens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe one day I'll have the experience. But so far in life, I never feel disgusted after eating. But also, yeah, I just feel. I feel good for, like, I'm glad I made that choice. But also, I used to have people in my life, specifically Luis, my old assistant, and he would really turmoil over what to eat. Like, it would be like, I don't even like staring at the menu for sometimes 30 to 40 minutes.

[Monet Xchange]

Like at a menu. Like, sorry, at a restaurant. Or like on uber eats.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On UberEats. Never at a restaurant, but on Uber Eats. Like, you can never pass them the phone first or last. You couldn't even pass them. You had to order completely separately. And then he kept being like, well, what if I ordered this and it's not good? I'm like, then just order something else next time. Like, the idea of eating a bad meal does not stress me out. I would just be like, eh, it's not great, but I'll just eat something better next time.

[Monet Xchange]

No, because you know, bitch, when you're fucking hungry and you like looking, so you're looking forward to this meal and like, yo, I want to get this thing, but if it's not good, I'm going to be so mad. Cause you're looking forward to fucking that shit up and being satiated. And when you eat it and you don't have that feeling of like, comfort and. And satiation after you eat, after you eat that meal, that's the part that's annoying and understanding. And as a fatty, as a foodie, I know that feeling very well. Like, you want to eat that meal and feel so good about yourself and what you just ate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have that experience. I mean, what I do get is sometimes if I don't get silverware, a straw, or some dipping sauce.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do feel like my eating experience has been ruined. But I'm still gonna eat it. And I'm still gonna be like, when I'm done, I wanna be like, all right. Like, I'm gonna be very annoyed in the moment. I'm like, oh, I really wish that I had some sauce. Because then I started thinking about it to myself. Like, it would be such a process to get the. Do I order a bottle of ranch on grubhub? Will the wings still be warm? And then after like three minutes, I'm like, it's not worth it. I eat the rings completely. Just the way they are. And honestly, I feel fine, and I move on.

[Monet Xchange]

That shit pisses me off. When I order my fucking thing and I don't have utensils and I don't have sauce. That shit pisses me off. Like when I'm having my fucking wings. I need ranch. Ranch is. Completes the meal. And if I order, especially when you tick the little box that says utensils and you order and you pay the ext. 50 cents per fucking dipping sauce. Like when I order Shake Shack and I get the little nuggets, the Shake shack barbecue sauce is so perfectly delicious and tangy. And I will order instead of, like, paying for the one. I will order an extra to have four dipping sauces. And when none of them come, that shit makes me so aggy. That shit pisses me off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you use all four sauces?

[Monet Xchange]

Yes. Oh, I slather my dippings in the sauce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. I mean, I do a good ranch, but I feel like barbecue sauce is a sauce that can completely encapsulate a chicken nugget. Barbecue sauce can be all over a piece of chicken, but you cannot have something completely covered in ranch. That's crazy. Completely covered in ranch is criminal.

[Monet Xchange]

Speak for yourself. Speak for yourself. Speak for yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every corner. Every corner of the thing covered in ranch. You basically mean like a toothpick. Put it on a toothpick, completely submerge it in the ranch, pull it out in every single corner. And you gonna try to figure out how to get on that little spot the toothpick was in, too. No, I'm about to say.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh, my God. I never thought about a toothpick. That's such a great option for that. Cause I normally. Cause then it gets all on my fingers, and I feel really gross. But a toothpick is a perfect, perfect way to get the entire thing covered in Duran sauce. That's good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I figured you actually want a fork instead of a toothpick, because with a fork, you have a better grip. A toothpick is. The chicken nugget is so heavy, it'll just slip off the toothpick. But a fork is pretty meaty. Not meaty, but, like, it's got four points of entry.

[Monet Xchange]

Thank you, Bob. I've never seen a fork. I've never heard of one. But thank you for perfectly explaining what that looks like to me. Thank you. And how to use the word not, Bob, smacks me. Cause you know what? There's a thing called forks, and I have no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you were saying you were leaning into the toothpick. And I was like, I don't think the toothpick is a good idea. Actually, I think a fork is a better idea.

[Monet Xchange]

Andy's. Andy's preferred vehicle of consuming food. Can you guess what it is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ketchup.

[Monet Xchange]

A spoon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you. Oh, well, what food. That makes sense for certain foods.

[Monet Xchange]

Everything. He's like. He's like, there's literally no reason to ever use. To ever use a fork, a spoon. You can cut things down. You can scoop things. He was like, I want to get as much food into my. And you know, Andy. Andy will eat. Andy loves.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's not wrong. I mean, I will say there are things that a spoon can do that a fork can't do, but it doesn't go vice versa.

[Monet Xchange]

You're right. Every. And yes, everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you. You can. But with a spoon, you are just doing damage. If you impale a chicken nugget with a spoon, you're just doing damage. Like this mug is getting wrecked on the way to the mouth. You could impale a chicken nugget with

[Monet Xchange]

a spoon, but it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're an animal, quite frankly.

[Monet Xchange]

What's up with my boyfriend like that? How dare you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said what I said. You call my boyfriend a little sneaky little boyfriend all the time. But I can't. Okay, interesting. Very interesting. For years you've been doing it.

[Monet Xchange]

Because that's the difference. Jacob does sneaky behavior. Andy does not do animalistic behavior.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's basically. Yeah. In your opinion. Yeah. Tilt your head back. Gather the information. To quote my friend, soak it up.

[Monet Xchange]

Let that be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let that be what it will be, honey.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh, my God. Today, you know, as you know, I'm in the Valley. When I tell you, like, I like being hot. I like warm temperatures. But this global warming is not like. Do you remember growing up, like, I remember growing up in New York City. By the time we was, like, getting ready for summer to start, like, we were already, like. We were like, wearing, like, shorts and, like, summer clothes. Cause it was warm. And then by the time Halloween came around in October, we were wearing coal. Cause it was cold. Now, in New York City, summer starts like end of April now. And summer ends, like, still Halloween. N is still out here wearing shorts and not winter clothes. Cause it's still fucking cold. And the fact that people can look that shit in the eye and say, oh, yeah, global warming doesn't exist. What are you talking about? That's just how. That's the weather patterns. No, babe, that's global warming shit is getting warmer longer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't Know if that's exactly a catch all for global warming. Sometimes it being colder is also an example of global warming. So they used to basically, they used to call it El Nino. Right. So climate change, El Nino and global warming are essentially the same thing.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know if that's true. I know we've had El Nino summers, but I don't think that means global warming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, global warming. El Nino is about climate change. It's like showing how the climate is changing and climate gets weird because it changed or it's different than it was. It doesn't follow the patterns that it used to follow.

[Monet Xchange]

No, no, no. El Nino is a naturally occurring climate pattern that can impact weather and storm patterns around the world, I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Say that again.

[Monet Xchange]

It's a naturally occurring climate pattern, not global warming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well then what does it say and what does it say is the cause of El Nino?

[Monet Xchange]

It's associated with warmer than average ocean surface temperatures in the central and eastern tropical Pacific Ocean, which can cause the trade winds to weaken. Oh, no one's a straight honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus Christ. When it's warmer than normal. When it's warmer than normal, you get El Nino. Okay, I reckon I can see the parallels there, but how do we get the El Nino?

[Monet Xchange]

I was talking about how, like, New York is just warmer.

[Shannon Maldonado]

It.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When, I mean, when I was a kid, you, you could wear shorts year round. I'm from Georgia, though. Like, it's like it would be warm between Christmas and New Year's. Like it'd be warm. Like it is warm. I'm outside shirt playing football on New Year's. Between New Year's and Christmas, I'd be outside shirtless, playing football. Huh. And sweating.

[Monet Xchange]

Got it. Yeah. As a result, the year that I lived in Georgia, we had a ice storm. And that was scary. Like, ice was today.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was so hot. The sun was like hurting my skin.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, I'm getting low key cooked right now.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, you know, we need to start wearing sunblock, girl. I've used it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean we need to start wearing. I wear sunblock.

[Monet Xchange]

You wear SPF every day.

[Jacob]

Mm.

[Monet Xchange]

Wow. Okay. I redact my statement. I need to start wearing SPF every day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You do. You do need to start wearing SPF every day. You do.

[Monet Xchange]

Look what I'm wearing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I saw that. I don't know where mine is.

[Monet Xchange]

We ate that. When I tell you we ate that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was very, very wonderful. Very, very wonderful. You know what? Let's take a little break and maybe I'LL come back wearing mine.

[Monet Xchange]

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[Jacob]

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[Monet Xchange]

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[Shannon Maldonado]

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[Monet Xchange]

Close your eyes.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Exhale.

[Monet Xchange]

Feel your body relax and let go of whatever you're carrying today.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast.

[Monet Xchange]

And breathe.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order.

[Monet Xchange]

1-800-contacts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we're back. I chose not to.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know where it is. I don't want to look for it, but I'll wear it next time, I guess.

[Monet Xchange]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think. I think. I think I am about to be. Hold on. We're not back yet.

[Monet Xchange]

Actually, hello, one and all. Do you think you can do it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I need to know what the words are. If I have the words in front of me, I think I could do it.

[Monet Xchange]

Jaco, can you see where you can find out what it is? And then Bob and I are gonna attempt to do the Brennan Lee Mulligan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is Brennan Lee Mulligan? Money wants to know what Brennan Lee Mulligan's catchphrase is. Hello, one and all. It is I, your humble dungeon master, Brennan Lee Mulligan. And we're live today with your questing queens. Say hi, questing queens.

[Monet Xchange]

You got Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello, you're humble. Hi, I'm the general manager. Hello, and all. This is me, your humble dungeon master, Brennan Lee Mulligan. I am here today on episode three of Dungeons and Dimensions, when I. I. I don't know the lyrics.

[Jacob]

Sorry, I'm looking into right now. Just to clarify, he does specifically the one for Dungeons and Drag Queens, or does he do the same one for everyone?

[Monet Xchange]

I think he does it for all of Them.

[Jacob]

But he doesn't say questing queens for all of them.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, I think that's the part he changes. Cause it's specific to ours.

[Jacob]

Okay, let me look into this.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Guess who back in the house. Oh, my God.

[Monet Xchange]

So bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I have Gertrude, the big icon? The big icon.

[Monet Xchange]

Ger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Gertrude, the big icon. The big icon. Kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty cat cond. Kitty, kitty, kitty cat spells Ow. Kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty cat.

[Jacob]

Con.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kitty cat Spell, spell spells Ow.

[Monet Xchange]

If I got you, junior.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Perception check one. Perception check two. Perception check three. Now hold that pose for me. Now cast that spe. Yeah, cast that spell for me.

[Monet Xchange]

Bob, where's that ring I got you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I threw it away.

[Monet Xchange]

You didn't throw it away. You're trying to gulp me into a thing. I'm not gonna fall for it, okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. This is the trash.

[Monet Xchange]

How'd that do it again?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it's probably not the trash anymore. Now. It's probably in a landfill at this point.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm not doing it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not doing what?

[Monet Xchange]

I'm not doing this with you, okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You asked the question, I gave you the answer. And now you say I'm doing a thing anyways.

[Monet Xchange]

So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone once told me that once someone gives you a gift, you can do whatever you want with it. It's mine now. That's what someone told me. It's none of your business what I do with it anyway. Is that correct?

[Monet Xchange]

But throwing away some jewelry someone gave you, that's shady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said I can do whatever I want with going to the beach and pair of Louboutins is not shady, okay? I just want to find out where the line is. I can't find out where the line is.

[Monet Xchange]

When you did the ball and the beautiful, did you. Did you confront Katya about this Louboutin that you have all this animosity?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We've had a conversation on air about it, yes.

[Monet Xchange]

And what did Kataya say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't remember. It was years ago.

[Monet Xchange]

Years ago. I don't give a fuck, bitch. You bald black bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does that sound like something that Katya would say to you for sure?

[Monet Xchange]

She's from Boston.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I have not experienced talking like that, but you know Kataya.

[Jacob]

Did you confront about what else she said about doing your. Your most recent podcast with her?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? What else did I say or what? What?

[Jacob]

Let me try to pull it up really quickly. I don't know if you've seen this or not.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, when chicken about to dig in that ass.

[Jacob]

I have the Link right here. If you just give me.

[Monet Xchange]

Boop, boop, boop.

[Jacob]

You can keep talking amongst yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll have you in a second.

[Jacob]

Sorry.

[Monet Xchange]

Okay, Bob, how do you think. Oh, like, overwhelmingly, like, how do you think the majority of the public perceives you?

[Jacob]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess I haven't given a ton of thought. I mean, I have it.

[Jacob]

I have it, I have it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet Xchange]

Okay. I hope he doesn't get mad at

[Bob the Drag Queen]

me, but he put on an outfit that was like.

[Jacob]

He was.

[Monet Xchange]

It was nice. It was nice, but it was. Well, I mean, I don't really know what his drag looks like these days, to be quite honest. I mean, he came in to do this pod. He showed up in a large suit that didn't fit with gold earrings on, like, gold grandma earrings for her. And I know he's like, I know the suit doesn't fit. I lost a lot of weight, but at least I have these earrings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just so weird.

[Jacob]

The great thing about a suit, that

[Monet Xchange]

once it gets way too big for you, then it's fashion. It was on the way, but it wasn't quite Diane Keaton yet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. You know what I mean?

[Monet Xchange]

It wasn't like, over. You know, it was like Apple Lavigne. It wasn't like oversized, like, New York moment kind of thing. Right. But he's, like, sitting there first. I get a moment to pick with those Pit Stop people Got. Damn, that set is uncomfortable. Those fucking stools.

[Jacob]

Give me a point. And then she moves on to the Pit Stop, bro.

[Monet Xchange]

Drag. You wanna see? I told you this fucking raggedy Boston bitch. You was sticking up for her. I knew I was perceiving her cheeky.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just said what you said. Doesn't sound like something she would say. I did not say, oh, I'm taking up for Katya.

[Monet Xchange]

What Kenny's done with the Katya hate train and drag this fucking raggedy bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I thought that looked very nice. I thought all the comments. All the comments in the comment section said, wow, Bob looks really nice in his suit. And I think that's pretty evident.

[Monet Xchange]

You also in your clapback, I opened my TikTok and it was you gathering some little twink on. Oh, there it is. Okay. Hello one and all, and welcome to Adventure Party. This is the show where we talk about this week's previous episode of Dimension 20 Dungeons Drag Queens. I'm your humble dungeon master, Brennan Lee Mulligan. With me, as always, are my questing queens. Okay, let me see if I can do this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So to answer your Question. I don't think that. I think I looked really nice that day. And I don't think that. Katya.

[Monet Xchange]

I think you look very cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think Katya is particularly known as some fashion icon who'll be working at a haberdashery anytime soon, you know.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, also. But, you know, I'm gonna find the silver lining here. Kudos to you for your weight loss and your suit being a little big on you. And I think you looked. I did think you looked very cute. Okay, so Brenda Lee Mulligan says this thing at the top of Dimension Adventure adventuring part, and he says it's comical. He just says it really fast. I'm going to try to do it. Oh, wait. Is this a. Is this a transcript from our thing? Oh, yeah, Monet. I just figured out what that means. We're queens on a quest. Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Hello.

[Monet Xchange]

Hi, questing queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were. No, you did not say words.

[Monet Xchange]

Yes, I did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did not say words, Bob.

[Monet Xchange]

Yes, I did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did.

[Monet Xchange]

I was doing it really fast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do it one more time.

[Monet Xchange]

Hello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What and all.

[Monet Xchange]

Welcome to Adventure Party. This is where we talk about the drag queens. I'm your humble Disney master Adrenaline the moniked way. We always talk about questing queens. Say, hi, questing queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really can't wait to hear that slowed down. Jay, we need you to edit that part. Slow it down. Lan, we need this editing slowdown because you just. You did not say that.

[Monet Xchange]

Hello. Hello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Welcome to Adventure park, everybody. This is your world.

[Monet Xchange]

We talk about these districts as best of the spiritual questions. I'm your humble dismaster from Linda Monaco, where we always question questing queens. Say, hi, questing queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't.

[Jacob]

You did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll show you one more time and

[Monet Xchange]

you'll get three times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll do it once. Hello and all. Welcome to the adventure party. This is the show where we walk through the experience of Dungeons and Dragons. I am your humble dungeon master, Brendan Lee Mulligan, with me as always, your quest and queens say, hi, questing queens. Now, I said it slower, but I was saying words. You were going beau. That's all, folks.

[Monet Xchange]

I can't wait for it to slow down. And you'll be. You're gonna get dragged. You're gonna be like, hello, one and all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Welcome to the adventure Party. This is the show where we talk about week's adventures, Dimension 20, Dungeons Dragons. I'm your humble dungeon master, Bernali Mulligan. With me as always, this quest queens. Say, hi, questing queens.

[Monet Xchange]

Hi, questing Queens, now I said the word.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Those were words. Hello, one and all. Welcome to Adventure Party.

[Monet Xchange]

This is the show where we talk about this week's previous episode of Dementia 2020 Drag Queens. I'm Homie, your homo, J.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, hello, one and all.

[Monet Xchange]

Anyway, I love Bren Mulligan. He's so charming and he's so lovely, and it's always a pleasure to work with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's get him back on the pod sometime.

[Monet Xchange]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We got, we got. We got to come up with a good reason to get him back on the pods.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh, back. We had him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said back. Maybe we can celebrate them doing their campaign at Times Square. Not Times Square, Madison Square Garden.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would tell you guys to go get tickets, but apparently it's already sold out 24 hours, so good luck. There'll be scalpers outside. So how do you think.

[Monet Xchange]

How do you think people perceive you, Roberta?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that for the most part, people think that I'm funny. I think that I'm certainly perceived as a millennial. I think that. I think that's a big part of my. For people who deep dive into me, that's a big part of my online personality. I think that I am being a millennialist. For me. Yeah. I think that I'm perceived as politically minded and maybe argumentative and maybe opinion. I have a lot of opinions, especially about drag and TV shows.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. I think people perceive me as generally very cherry bubbly. People perceive me as funny. I think people perceive me as being very sweet and kind and a little ditzy. And I think. I don't think people perceive me as political, but I do think people do perceive me as being opinionated.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you see yourself as very sweet and kind and bubbly? Would you call yourself a bubbly person?

[Monet Xchange]

I wouldn't call myself bubbly, no. But I do. But I do find myself to be a very kind person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why do you think people think you're so bubbly? I don't know.

[Monet Xchange]

I think it's just the. I think it's just the perception I give on Drag Race. I think that obviously a lot of people know me from Drag Race. That's probably the biggest way people have come to find out about me or know about me online. And I think that is my perception. To drag, it means someone who's very bubbly and sweet and kind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe it's cause you were Miss Congeniality.

[Monet Xchange]

Probably. That probably has a big part to do with it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, you were talking about me arguing with that guy online the other day. Oh, yeah. So I tried to get him to have a conversation with me. I'm like, if you wanna come talk to me, you can come. I don't think he'll accept, to be honest. But.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, you said, how did I see it? How old is this thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How old is what?

[Monet Xchange]

Cause you were like, oh, that popped up on your Instagram. Or you made the comment like, I thought it just happened. Apparently, this is old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I didn't. No. What did you hear me?

[Monet Xchange]

What did you hear me say when I had brought it up yesterday? You're like, oh, you saw that? In my mind, it's something that happened today, but you made it to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you don't go on my social media. So I was like, oh, you saw that. Interesting.

[Monet Xchange]

I do go to your social media. I at least talk about how I'm one of your biggest fans. I do go on your social media quite often.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't be someone's biggest fan without going, I don't go on Whoopi Goldberg's social media, but I'm one of her biggest fans.

[Monet Xchange]

But, okay, but where would you get that? I don't go on your social media

[Bob the Drag Queen]

because I'd be posting stuff and then I mention it to you, and then you'd be like, what? Often that happens a lot

[Monet Xchange]

about things I do see on social media as well. I don't see everything, but okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it's not an insult. I just know what it is that you be. I don't. I just don't think you be. You be any streets checking for my content.

[Monet Xchange]

I watch your content pretty often, and this is. And right now I'm perceiving as being argumentative.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, what's the most recent thing I posted today?

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know. The most recent thing I saw was a fight yesterday. I'm not going to say check all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You say you check all the time.

[Monet Xchange]

I do. All the time. It's not every day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, what is it? Can you define all the time?

[Monet Xchange]

I think every three days. All the time was frequently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think all the time you posted was.

[Monet Xchange]

You said I would say, oh, I check your social media daily. I say I check it often.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said all the time. You just say all the time.

[Monet Xchange]

All the time. All the time. All the time. It's not daily.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now you're trying to switch the words

[Monet Xchange]

on us all the time. It's not daily, Carson.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like an analogous term where you can just kind of shift it to what you want it to mean in the moment. Right.

[Monet Xchange]

You Know, I mean, we can also find out how freaking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know what your last thing was. Your last thing was you trying to describe this opera, singing this opera. You trying to figure out how to do. How quickly can I describe this opera, the one you did.

[Monet Xchange]

First of all, I don't even trust you and Jacob because I know Jacob probably said that to you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I check your social media several times a day, actually.

[Monet Xchange]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Literally several times a day.

[Monet Xchange]

What does the phrase all the time mean? The phrase all the time simply means constantly or very frequently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So for you, constantly, it's like every four days.

[Monet Xchange]

Every, every other day. I think it's constant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, interesting.

[Monet Xchange]

Frequent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry, Interesting. And what's more, what's more. What's more constant than frequent?

[Monet Xchange]

Daily.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's more. What's more. That's more frequent than the term constant?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, every day is daily. That's why you have, that's how you have the expression, the term daily. Cause it happens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think it's all relative, right? So for example, if you are going to, if you are frequently going to concerts, you can go to concerts once a month and frequently go to concerts. Now if you are frequently brushing your teeth, like frequently, I would say for me, that would be at least three times a day. Which, to be honest, I don't think anyone brushes their teeth three times a day. I don't think they do.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm a two. I'm a two day brusher.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do when I wake up, when I go to sleep. Mohart posted something online the other day and I was like, is this a thing we're doing? She was like, it was video. She was like, hey, guys, I want you to know the reason why he didn't come back and hang out with you. Because you stink. You're dirty. Your house was dirty. Clean your floors. Wash your walls. And I was like, we're washing our walls now. Like, we wash walls. And I don't mean like a tile wall. Yeah, you spray a tile wall and you wipe it down. But we're like, we're washing these walls.

[Monet Xchange]

I mean, I don't do it all the time, but at least like quarterly. I go around my house with a magic eraser brusher and I wash my wall. Cause that just happened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm not talking about getting little zaps off. I'm talking about washing your wall. I don't mean like spot checking your wall, washing your. We are washing our walls. I think she's being a little hyper.

[Monet Xchange]

She's a little hyperbolic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You do this to your walls.

[Monet Xchange]

I think she's leaning hyperbolic. I don't think she believes we've been scrubbing your walls down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She said it so many times. She said, wash your walls. And then people are coming like, yeah, this. And I was like, are we. Wash our wall? This is wild that we are here washing our walls.

[Monet Xchange]

I wash my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wouldn't that ruin your wall?

[Monet Xchange]

I wash my baseboards.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not. You're not answering, right? Well, let'. On tv, I see people washing walls. I see it all the time on tv.

[Monet Xchange]

Okay? All the time. Can you please. Can you please tell us how it's all the time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You see people frequently? It's frequent.

[Monet Xchange]

And how would you define frequent for me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like, once every six years.

[Monet Xchange]

You're such a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We get to define frequent for ourselves.

[Monet Xchange]

I can't with you. I cannot with you. You are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you never seen someone washing their walls on tv?

[Monet Xchange]

Maybe like a sitcom? Maybe like, maybe. Maybe I'll see the mom do it on, like, Family Matter sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not on reality tv. I'm talking about scripted television. But I feel like washing your walls would damage the walls and the paint.

[Monet Xchange]

Like, for example, I wash my cabinets every time I clean my kitchen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, stop changing the subject. Everyone washes their cabinets. Everyone washes their. The cabinet is not a wall. A cabinet does not. A cabinet is on the wall. Wall. A cabinet is a thing attached to a wall, but it is not. It is not a wall.

[Jacob]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can both agree on that, right?

[Monet Xchange]

I agree with that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I don't know why you're bringing

[Monet Xchange]

up washing cabinets, but that's important to someone. Can y' all comment below if, like, washing your cabinet sound is weird?

[Jacob]

You.

[Monet Xchange]

Like, you wash your cabinet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just. When you say wash my. I spray them and then I rub them. I'm not, like, dousing them in anything. Like, I am washing my clothes. I'm washing my dishes. I mop the. I wouldn't say. I. I wouldn't call mopping the floor washing the floor, but I would call it mopping the floor.

[Monet Xchange]

It is a form of washing the floor. If you're going.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, the form, but I wouldn't use the term washing the floor.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, you mop the floor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You would mop the floor. And I would. And I would. And I would spray down my. Or clean the. I would clean the cabinet. I would spray them with some. With some. I think spraying your cabinets is pretty common.

[Monet Xchange]

Interesting.

[Jacob]

I think.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, mine are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, because food splashes everywhere.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. And also mine just pick up fingerprints because these are matte. So they pick up fingerprints. So I had to like take like warm water with soap and like literally wash the cabinets. But that's. I think that's. That's not, that's not everyone's experience. Yeah, so, but, so I know the experience of like getting the little scuffs off and making sure there ain't fingerprints in it, especially. I'm a drag queen. A drag queen with black makeup. Bitch. I be seeing makeup marks on my shit all the time. That shit is. I think that's so gross. But maybe that's what Monique is talking about. Cause she's a black drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do a lot of drag in my home. To be honest, I pretty rarely do drag at home.

[Monet Xchange]

I rarely had two Digital Pride gigs this year. So it was kind of like COVID 19 flashbacks. Just kind of like in my house in full drag from Boop Bloop, doing a gig. It was very cute. So, yeah, I think that's how people perceive me. And I think that. And I think that when. I think it's hard for. When the public perceives you as something on tv, when they find out that that isn't exactly who you are irl or like you're something a little bit different. I think it's really tough for them to swallow that. They're like, well, no, you should be the way that I thought you were on tv. And I think that gets very distressing and upsetting to people. So that's why when things like JLo, Jennifer Lopez. Because I think JLo. If I had to think about what the perception of Jlo think, the perception of JLo, has been like this like sweet lady from the Bronx, an actress, no shade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's considered sweet. I think she's more like fierce. Jlo's like fierce. She's tenacious. She's like very fierce. She's very physically fit. She has a big booty. But I don't know that I've ever heard hide nor tell of JLO being sweet. Let me see. What's the wrong ever?

[Monet Xchange]

I would say J. Lo would be like. I would call before everything that went on. I would say she was one of America's sweethearts. Wouldn't you think so? I think so. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think so. No.

[Monet Xchange]

Interesting. Jacob, what do you think? Do you think that J. Lo is like one of America's sweethearts? I think she was one of the sweethearts she was always in. Cause you know why? She was like the rom com lady. She was just like an everyday girl from The Bronx, like, from New York. I think she gave to me the perception of just an everyday sweetheart part.

[Jacob]

I agree. With that being said, I feel like JLO really hit her, like, pop prime when I was a little bit too young for that, like, demographic.

[Monet Xchange]

So Jacob perceives of his old bag.

[Jacob]

When was JLO really big? She was like, really early 2000.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. Yeah. My love don't cost a thing My

[Bob the Drag Queen]

love and I gave you all my trust Would you comfort me?

[Jacob]

The Selena film was in, like, 97.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was before she was a pop star, though.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really?

[Jacob]

So I. I think she was. I think that was her vibe. Yeah. I think she was definitely like one of those public darlings for. I think so, in my opinion. But maybe I wasn't quite.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like a from the block kind of girl, but not like a sweet girl. But she was like, don't be fooled by the rocks that I got I'm still. I'm still Jenny from the Bronx or from the block or whatever it was. Is it the block or the Bronx?

[Monet Xchange]

The block. Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got I'm still Jenny from Jackson Queens. You just making up shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The blocks still make sense. It's still rhyme. It's a slant rhyme. And she is talking about the block. She's always. She won't shut up at the fucking block.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, the block. That's what it is. I'm still.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also the Bronx makes sense, too. I'm still Jenny from the Bronx. Also makes sense.

[Monet Xchange]

No, rocks got block, not rocks got Bronx.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's called a slant rhyme. Don't be fool. Butter rocks that I got. I'm still Jenny from the Bronx. That still works.

[Monet Xchange]

That slant rhyme is lean, bitch. That slant rhyme is like this. This slant rhyme is fucking doing the fucking Michael Jackson.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it sounds right.

[Monet Xchange]

I can't even tell if you're doing a fake or if you dead ass. I can't tell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it sounds right. But the point is anyway, yeah, obviously now her public reception has changed severely. She is not loved.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. And a lot of it, I think, happened on, like, social media, like online TikTok and shit. Like, it just felt like overnight the public opinion of Jennifer, Jennifer, Jennifer Lopez changed quickly. And it was all in social media.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So many Jennifers, so many famous Jennifers. Jennifer Garner, Jennifer Aniston, Jennifer Hudson, Jennifer Williams, Jennifer Lewis, Jennifer Coolidge, Jennifer Holiday, Jennifer Beal, Jessica Biel.

[Monet Xchange]

Babe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jennifer Beal's a different person.

[Monet Xchange]

Jennifer Beal is a celebrity bomb. What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jennifer Beal, Jennifer Beal is a celebrity. Jennifer Beal is a celebrity. Look her up. Do you see? Yeah, there she is. No, Jennifer Beale. I literally thought, there she is.

[Monet Xchange]

Jennifer Beale.

[Jacob]

I don't know if Bob. I think Bob might. I do believe Bob might have been saying Jessica Biel, but Jennifer Biel is indeed a famous actress. She was one of the stars in the L Word.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly. Jennifer Biel.

[Monet Xchange]

Thank you very much. You completely guessed that, and you made

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a mistake, and you had to be right.

[Monet Xchange]

Jennifer Beals.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jennifer Beals.

[Monet Xchange]

You completely guessed that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I presented an award with the entire cast of the L Word.

[Monet Xchange]

You did?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I did.

[Jacob]

That is also true. We were backstage with them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kennedy with Jennifer Beals. I've even met Jennifer Beals. So I did accidentally call her Jennifer Beals, and it should have been Beals. I will admit to that. But even then I met her anyway,

[Monet Xchange]

so you're way more into TikTok. So, like, do you remember when the switch happened? I just remember, like, hearing why they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Later on, it wasn't when she was talking about her hair. It was when she was like, my hair. A crazy girl. It was around the time where she would say that her orange drink and a bag of chips. And then at the same time, people were like, ooh, this is cringy. And then because people were dragging her for being so cringey, people were like, I don't care that she's being dragged, because here's a story from when she was really mean to me. And then once she started doing that, once people started being like, oh, she was mean to you? Here's the story when she was mean to me. So I was like, that's crazy. Cause here's the story when she was mean to me.

[Monet Xchange]

But here's the thing, y' all full T. Sometimes I hear these stories and I'm like, I don't think that's being mean. For example, one of the big ones that went around was. Oh, yeah, she was mean to me, too. Here's my story. It was that dude, and he was, like, so weird. So we were on set one time, and, you know, I was shooting, like, a movie with her, or he was a PA on a set of a movie, and she was on set and she had to put her gum out. She spit her gum in my hand. Now, y', all, I have been on sets for things, and you're going to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

put Monet once spit her gum in a PA's mouth against his will. So you better be lucky you got a hand.

[Monet Xchange]

Who did that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You? I was there I did not do that. When we did Dungeons and Drag Queens, I remember we were sitting there on set, and I remember I had just come up with. I had just announced the character Gertrude, and we had to stop down for something. I think it was cold. And then someone said, Ms. Xchange, could you please spit your gum out? And then you said, open your mouth, faggot. And the guy was straight, by the way, which made it even crazier. And then you spit in his mouth. And then you talk to Loogie to follow it up. And you said, wash it down, queer.

[Monet Xchange]

This how you lying. I said, open your mouth, cocksucker. That's what the fuck I said. So you're right. Anyway. And the person put their hand out, and it is pretty normal. I've seen celebrities do it. I've seen Bob do it. I've done it. If you have them in your mouth, you're about to. You can't put in your hand. There is no garbage clothes. So someone who's assisting you will put their hand out, and you just spit the gum in their hand and they go dump it out. This person's not like that is a pretty normal thing I've seen happen many times on set.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My question is this. Was this person prepared to receive the gum no matter what? Did she grab their hand and raise it to her mouth, or did the person put their hand out?

[Monet Xchange]

I don't think the person clarified that,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but I have a hard time imagining that she. For me to spin something, I'm assuming your hand is out, right?

[Jacob]

Right.

[Monet Xchange]

Cause otherwise, how did. Otherwise, how did you catch it? What? She was like, you like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, if you were gonna receive her gum from her mouth or from her hand, from her mouth to her hand to your hand, what does it matter if she drops it or places it?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, it doesn't. Doesn't really fit. But then there was a. There was one, like, one of those people that enter, like, the threads on Twitter now. They're like, this is a thread about that time I met Jennifer Lopez and this gu. Going on and on and on. And he was spelling out this whole thing how he did Game Masters with one of those coin game things. She was one of the celebrities on it, and he was an extra on it, and he spells every detail so fucking good. And then the last one goes. And she was completely nice. He was like. He gave this whole prologue about meeting her and how it was and just saying she was really pleasant, really kind to work with. But the ones like that, you don't talk about them a lot because it doesn't further the narrative that she's this mean, nasty, cunty bitch that hates working with people. And she's like, so you don't hear about those a lot. We just hear about the mem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Here's a hot take. Here's a hot take. There's a chance that she might not be a nice person. And honestly, I don't care. I don't care if people are nice. I really don't care. I don't need everyone to be nice. Is she bad? Like, is she. Like. There's difference between being a bad person and being a nice. Being a good person and a nice person or a bad person and a terrible. You know what I mean? I honestly don't care. Now, I think that some people tell their stories, and sometimes I'm like, ooh, that wasn't nice. I've heard some stories like, ooh, that didn't seem nice. Like, about this one guy who was a driver for Jennifer Law and wasn't allowed to look up or something like this. And I've heard about a couple of things like that. And I was like, oh, yeah, you know what? That does not sound nice. I gotta be honest. That actually sounds less than nice. But also, I really don't care that. What's her name from Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?

[Monet Xchange]

Betty Davis?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't care that Betty Davis wasn't nice. I don't care. I really don't care if she wasn't nice, because I'm not here to. I'm looking at her movies to see if she can act, and I. She's not. Now, it doesn't mean that she's mean or that she's bad, but there's a different. I think. I think being not nice is different than being mean, personally. Are you contemplating?

[Monet Xchange]

Well, I'm trying to think. I mean, it's not that I care that someone is nice, but I think that when you work in the service industry, you're in an industry where you interact with a lot of people, and I think that a lot. Oftentimes, the tenor of the main, the big star on set sets the tone for everyone else. Like, for example, working with. Working with Michel Bhutto was a fucking amazing. She is the hbic, the head person in charge, and she sets the temperature for everything else on set. Right? Like, the buck stops with her. So how Michelle Buteau is behaving on set made my experience a good one. Like, Michelle is just. She is literally one of the nicest. And again, not saying people have to be nice. But she's just. It was just. She just made set feel great, and it made set a great place I wanted to go to every day. And again, I'm not saying that that is a responsibility of Jennifer Lopez or whoever it is. I'm just saying when you're working with someone that, like, that is nice to set that tone on set.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you might be misconstrued what I'm saying when I say I don't care, like, if I'm working on the show, I would like for you to be nice. If I'm just watching it, if I'm just watching Survival of the Thickest, I do not care if Michelle Buteau is lovely or if she kind of just like, doesn't speak to anyone and goes and does her job and goes home. I'm just watching. I'm watching the end product. This is. As a consumer, you know what I mean? Now, if I hear that she's a bad person or mean, that's different. So as someone working there, yes, I would like a more friendly environment. But as someone just watching it, I really don't care if she's nice to y' all on set or if she just kind of minds her business and does it and just shows up, says their lines, and turns around and walks out. I've worked on set with people who walk up, say their lines, and leave, and I've worked with people who are, like, really, really, really, really friendly.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've worked with a ton of people who are, like, mean. I don't think I've worked with really anyone who's like, mean.

[Monet Xchange]

Me either. I don't think I have, but I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

have worked with people who just show up, say their lines, turn around, and leave. That is it.

[Monet Xchange]

Tasha Smith is such a Kiki on that. She's so fun. She is. She is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kiki Anna, when I did rough night, Kate McKinnon, Alana Glazier were very, very chatty and talkative. They were one. They were very, very nice. Scarlett Johansson just kind of minded her business. Like, she didn't really do any of that stuff. She was just like, she was not me. But I can't go and say she was so nice. She really just kind of sat there in her chair minding her business, and then they said, actually, she got up and she did her line. Then when they said cut, she sat her ass. She sat her fat ass up.

[Monet Xchange]

She sat down in her own little corner in her own little chair. Yeah. I mean, but also, I think that a Lot of this comes from also, like, social media. I think that people have formed these parasocial bonds or connections or relationships with celebrities and influencers. So, like, you think that this thing, that this thing, this person is selling you every day on their social media as being this personable, nice, jolly person. Oftentimes, unless you're fanita, I don't give a fuck about y'.

[Shannon Maldonado]

All.

[Monet Xchange]

Y' all bitches are broke. Like, unless it's that. You know what I mean? Like, that. That's what she's selling. She's selling mean and nasty. Cunty bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, she wasn't always. She used to be like, I love you guys. I love you guys so much. Cut to. I never liked you. All right, gag. I'm saying the gagget jagged.

[Monet Xchange]

So she shifted her brand into being this, like, really nasty person. So that's what you're expecting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you gonna go still do her makeup? Her drag makeup?

[Monet Xchange]

I was never going to do her drag makeup. Bob. Stop trying to gag it. Stop trying to start drama. You. You like going me into drama. And that'd be sitting there like, Monet. Why'd you do that? Why are you doing that? That's the question.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your. I have no part.

[Monet Xchange]

Literally, I have no part. The part is all yours, currently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's interesting.

[Monet Xchange]

So I think that with social media, so, like, with someone like Chris Olsen. Now, granted, I don't follow a lot of Chris Olsen's content. I don't know a lot of his stuff. So I don't know if he gives off, like, this nice thing or he's mean, but, like, he's going through that thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's very nice. His whole. He's very, like, nice. Very nice. It's like Ellen DeGeneres. It's Dylan Mulvaney. It's Chris Olson, and it's very nice. It's like, I'm a really nice person.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, and now, like, people, like, are they're coming for him because are they saying that he's not nice? Are they saying he's fake?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think people find him annoying. And then because they find him annoying, they are harassing him. And then the harassment has finally gotten to him, and now he's the. The claws around.

[Monet Xchange]

But what is it harassing like?

[Jacob]

It's more just being like they. They don't like things he's doing. So he did a glam bot where he, like, didn't look good. And now everyone's like, this is one of the worst glam bots ever. He looks so ugly in the Glam bot. He is like at events with celebrities and they're like, oh, the way he's interacting with this celebrity is cringe. So it's not, I would say any like thing. I can like this grippily say like one thing he did. It's more of just like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, he also shows DMs that people send him that are shady. Well, he also shows DM that puts him there shady. And he also apparently someone was. And his like news got leaked.

[Monet Xchange]

And he's like, his news got leaked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently he. That's what he said, right? Or that's what he's was saying. The people like sending him his own news and stuff.

[Monet Xchange]

Bob, I have a question.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet Xchange]

If someone leaks your news, would you be upset? Well, I mean, like, what's your gut reaction you're having?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I think I'd be uncomfortable. I'd be really shocked if anyone has any nudes of me because I'm not really in these streets taking nudes. And I'm certainly not in these streets sending nudes.

[Monet Xchange]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I'd really be like, how on earth did this person get this picture? Like, genuinely, how on earth does this person get this picture?

[Monet Xchange]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it like a nude? They took me through a window, through the house. I'm walking around like, what is this news?

[Monet Xchange]

Well, I guess you don't send nudes. It can happen. But like, I don't know, maybe like one night you were just really feeling a pussy. Pussy. You just sent a little and then that got leaked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess I feel betrayed and. Yeah. How would you feel?

[Monet Xchange]

I would feel I would feel. I would feel that my privacy was invaded. I would feel I would be upset. But I think I would get over it eventually. Like, not, not eventually. I mean, I would have to get like. I wouldn't fest over it forever, but I think I would quickly move on. I will be scandalized for a little while, though. I cannot believe this person did that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe we should interview someone. Maybe we should do a whole thing where we interview people who have had their nudes leaked and talk about the experience and what it was like for them.

[Monet Xchange]

But then you have someone like Rob Anderson who. Well, since I've known Rob Anderson, it seems like Rob Anderson is a tall, attractive white dude with a lot of followers and gets a lot of engagement online. So it seems like a lot of people have. Bitch. They be mad at Rob Anderson. Like, he's expressed that a lot. And I also think that like with when he started doing, you know, when he was like one of the first people who was really, like, up in these Kamala streets. He organized a whole Kamala thing, a coconut party. And, like, he would post on his stories. A lot of people were like, you fucking stupid influencer. How dare you talk about politics? You know nothing about politics. Like, you know, coming for Kamala and him, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I think that that's not something where people think he's mean or nice. People just feel that they can come for influen is because they're entitled to. How dare you use your platform to speak about politics, you fucking stupid idiot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be clear, I don't know Rob Anderson as well as you. You two are friends, and he and I are acquaintances. We know each other, and I have his number. I don't think that's the critique about Rob Anderson. It's not just like, how dare you talk about politics? Rob Anderson was like. Was comparing pro Palestinian influences and being like, now I hate you and I hate your cause because I can't fly on my. Because my plane's held up at the airport or something.

[Monet Xchange]

He said, I think that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. So I think that hot take was really poorly received. And then once you say something like that, it just makes me feel like now I'm nitpicking through every single thing that you say with a fine tooth comb.

[Monet Xchange]

He said, so his plan was held up somewhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He did not say, my plan was held up because of a thing. He goes, when people are protesting and causing a scene before their cause, it makes me hate you. You and your cause. So now I can't go because my plane's held up because you're doing your cause. He didn't say the cause. And then the next slide, he was like, people think I'm talking about the pipeline, and people think I'm talking about Palestine. I'm just talking about all of it. And I'm like, well. And I just don't think that's a great take. It's like people are using their ability. I mean, I've done this before. I literally held up traffic. I think that people are using what they have have to make their voices heard. And I think that pressure is actually getting people like Kamala Harris to publicly call for a ceasefire and talk about returning hostages. And I think if they keep up the pressure, they'll also talk about returning Palestinian hostages too. Just keep up the pressure.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, there is a chance. I agree with that sentiment. I don't think that's a great take. And I guess maybe there is a chance that things that he Said like that before. Upset and perturbed people. I don't, to be very honest, I don't know the extent of Rob's takes. Hot takes on Twitter, on Instagram, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was, it was Instagram. Yeah, it was Instagram stories.

[Monet Xchange]

Instagram stories.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But he also had a hot take a while back about monogamy. Like, kind of, kind of like, I don't know if it was big, I can't tell if it was parody or not, but it was like judgy toward people who are non monogamous.

[Monet Xchange]

No, it wasn't that. He was saying that, like, when I'm going. When I'm like hooking up on Grindr and stuff, like, if you're in an open, like, if you're an open relationship, like, miss me, like, like, don't message me. If in a relationship, like, I prefer to hook up with people who are, who are, who are also single.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was a little more than that. I don't remember hearing it.

[Monet Xchange]

I remember reading this because I remember hearing it when I was single. I did not want to hook up with open people either because I think that when I was hooking up, I think there was a part of me that was hopeful, like, oh, I can find. I would. Maybe this one hookup would become my boyfriend or something like that. And I didn't want to hook up with open people. So I'm like, bitch, you have someone, some bitch. Miss me, leave me for someone else who is also single who's trying to find a man. I think that was his take. I'm pretty sure. Sure. I could be wrong though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what if. So how do you feel about hooking up with people who don't want to be your boyfriend? Like, they're like, we can hook up, but you will never be my boyfriend.

[Monet Xchange]

That's fine. But when I was in these hookup streets, that's not a conversation I have. Like, I would hook up with people and we would not explicitly have a conversation like, oh, we're gonna become boyfriends after this. I think that. And a lot of single people hooking up like you, you're not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not.

[Monet Xchange]

You're hopeful, but there is a part of you like, oh, this hookup might become something more. But there are also people who hook up and they don't want that at all. They want no strings, bitch, I don't wanna see your face. I don't wanna say hi, I don't wanna kiss you. That is also a. A lot of the times when I was looking at people single that was not, like, an explicit conversation. Like, just so we're clear, this will never be anything. That was never the conversation. So there's always, like, a. Well, at the back of my mind, it was like a maybe this could be something more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when you were single, you did not want to hook up with anyone in an open relationship?

[Monet Xchange]

I did not. Like, no, I did not. I didn't want to. Neither person was hot. And I was like, absolutely. Like, sure, I'll do it. Bs but you've been in an open

[Bob the Drag Queen]

relationship and hooking up with people who are single.

[Monet Xchange]

I know, but if someone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just asking. I'm just. This is not. I'm just asking.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, I'm just saying. But if someone, like, also on my profile, I say that I am. I am committed. I'm an open relationship. So if you're hitting me up on Grindr, you can know, like, you already know what the deal is. But I would filter out people who are open or married or committed. I just wouldn't hit those people up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I think those are the. I think those are the critiques. I don't think people are just mad at Rob because he's handsome. But that is.

[Monet Xchange]

People do not like beautiful people, people who are like. What's the word I'm looking for? Not statistically. What's the word?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tradition.

[Monet Xchange]

Traditionally. Traditionally attractive. There's another word. There's literally another word that I. That I know, and I just. I can't find it anyway. But that is a thing. Like, when you see someone conventionally, when you. When you. There, there.

[Jacob]

Y'.

[Monet Xchange]

All, Please sign up. There is a thing when you see someone who's conventionally attractive, who is good in a lot of the things, who is super popular. Sometimes you like, damn, you just got everything, don't you? You got a good job. You conventionally attractive. Like, you are taking everything good is happening for you. Like, there's something like a toxic part of me to just like you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You like, why do you get the other? I see that people don't like people because they're fat, because they're considered ugly, because they don't look good. I've seen that. That I've seen and I see. And I feel like I see a lot more of that. Like, a lot more people being like, I don't like you because you're fat.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm not saying that. But both things. Both things exist. Both things are true. Like, I have. I, I. I have seen both things. I've seen people hate people because they Are unattractive because they're fat, because they're black, because they bald, whatever. Like, I've seen that too. And I've always also been someone who has hated on someone who is conventionally attractive and seems to be having the best time at life. We're like, what? Why don't you struggle?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It does happen, but I feel like it's rare. Like, pseudoziasis exists, but most people who look pregnant are pregnant. You know what I mean?

[Monet Xchange]

That's always a tricky game. Literally. Oh, my God. On set the other day, and I was this close because the woman had a round stomach and her belly button was protruding. So, like, all signs said pregnant bitch when I tell you she was not. And I could. What would I have done if I walk up to this woman and be like, oh, my God, congratulations.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's like, I would never walk up to a pregnant person or a friend that thought I was pregnant and talk about their. Never. You cannot pay me to walk up to a person and talk about their. Unless they are 8cm dilated and the baby's shoulder up to his shoulders and pussy. I will not be commenting on anyone's pregnancy.

[Monet Xchange]

I thought. Bitch. I had thought. I had thought. And I was like. I was like, there's no way. Right? But bitch, I was wrong. I was wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I just don't think it's necessarily a great take to be like, it's cause he's so handsome. Because there are tons of handsome people that everyone likes. There are lots of really beautiful people and people like them and they're beautiful,

[Monet Xchange]

and there are a lot of people that handsome people. And people are upset that they are getting all. They're getting all the things. I think that's what I'm saying is

[Bob the Drag Queen]

it's probably more than just that he's handsome. Because if there are other people who are really handsome and no one's giving them shit, it's probably not just he's just so handsome. So everyone hates him because he's handsome.

[Monet Xchange]

But also, fat people don't give them shit and they don't hate them because they're fat. Like, I think. I don't think. I don't think. I don't think you can say like. Like that as a blanket statement. I think there it happens and it doesn't. I don't think. And I think that is sometimes a thing why people are perturbed by Robin and annoyed by him. I really do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. Like, people hate. People hate me because I'm perfect and beautiful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's also Interesting. These are also interesting, interesting talking points you're bringing up. Thank you.

[Jacob]

Darren.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you find like, do you, do you think that people hate on you a lot? Do you find that you, you are, what is your, what is the negative public perception of you?

[Jacob]

Negative?

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know. That I'm, that I'm annoying. That I am. You don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't read any comments. You never seen any of this in the comments, Any of this in the DMs.

[Monet Xchange]

I mean people, I mean I have, I've had, I received a lot of anti black hate, A lot of anti black hate. Especially on All Stars 4. That was probably the height of it. The most anti black hate I got, which D I was getting monkey niggers fat was getting that all the time. So when the most hate I have been has been about my physical appearance received.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But generally you never got any negative attention about your personality or your.

[Monet Xchange]

I can't remember it. Like I don't, I generally don't remember what people, what people think about my personality. I really don't. It's also, it's also a thing like I really be on these streets, like putting hater blockers. Like I really don't be out here reading, reading mean comments. Like again, I have read, I have read them, I have come across them. But it's not something that sticks in my brain. I'm not sitting here like remembering that thing because I, when I tell you I genuinely don't care, to be fair,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you can't remember anything. It's not about what. I don't care if you care or not. You still can. You can't remember stuff you care about.

[Monet Xchange]

But I don't remember is what I'm saying, because it's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't care if people say you don't care what people think about you.

[Monet Xchange]

I do care what people think about me. But the negative things, those things come from like people who will never have my best interest, who don't have anything. Like they don't want any of this. Those comments are people who have no care for this. So why do I care about their thoughts and opinions?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't think it's possible to have a negative opinion about someone but still actually have their best interest at heart?

[Monet Xchange]

But not these negative comments that I'm talking about. People who are just finding silly superfluous things to comment about that make no sense. That's what I'm talking about. The ones that I read that are just like, that literally makes no sense. What the fuck Are you talking about,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you mean the ones about your physical appearance? The ones about your personality?

[Monet Xchange]

Personality ones?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are they? Like, what are they critiquing?

[Monet Xchange]

I don't remember. I don't remember. Can you, can you bring up something that you've seen? Because I really, I generally don't remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't really read your comments. I read your comments, but you're on

[Monet Xchange]

my social media often daily.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not say daily.

[Monet Xchange]

You literally said. I checked it today. I checked it. You, you said earlier, I check your social media every day, multiple times a day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it's actually hourly.

[Monet Xchange]

Okay, so and you, you haven't seen any of these negative ones?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't, but I don't. But I don't. I do not read your comments though. I would look at your stuff, but I do not read your comments. Okay, like, I don't think I' like scrolled into your comments maybe a few times. If it's about me or if I'm in the video or the picture, then I'll read the comments. But I don't typically read your comments now.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh, okay. Well, maybe you should more. So you can give me, you can give me some feedback about what people think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Typically when I look at people's comments, I'm usually wanting to know, like, I will look. I read comments on a YouTube video or a TikTok video or Instagram video, whatever picture, if it is about an opinion and I want to know what other people are thinking about the opinion. But if it's just like a picture, I'm like, I like the picture or I don't like the picture and then

[Monet Xchange]

I'll just move on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm not really looking to see whether people are like their heart, emotions, emojis, you know what I mean? I'm not there to see their like their thumbs up emojis. But if someone shares a political take, I'm like, well, I want to see what people think about the take. So I'll scroll through. And you don't really share a lot of that stuff.

[Monet Xchange]

No, not all the time. Like, very seldom do I. But what are some negative comments people have about you that bug you, that keep you up at night?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, any of them keep me up at night, but some of them do bug me for sure. I think that people think that I'm really opinionated or that I, that I'm mean, that I'm mean to people or that I, that I harp like specifically on the pit stop. That I harp too much on one girl and I'M like, well, I keep. Well, this girl has just made it through the whole season, so I just gotta keep talking about her. When she leaves, I'll stop talking about her. And I keep not liking. Whatever, you know what I mean? So I've got that critique a few times for a couple of different contestants from Drag Race. Not from the contestants, but from the fans about contestants. They said I did it with Blair. They said I did it with Ginger Minj. They said I did it with. They said with Luxx, which I was like, I gave Lux so many compliments.

[Monet Xchange]

I think sometimes maybe some people say annoying, but, like, also annoying is such a. Such a whack. Like, like, what does that really mean? Like, when you say someone's annoying, like, that needs to be followed by something like, bob is so annoying because xyz. That makes sense. But you can't just say, oh, you're so annoying, bitch. Expound upon that. Like, annoy. Like, what? Like, what is annoying?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I assume if they're commenting on a video, you're annoying because of what you're doing in that video. So, like, if you just tweet out. If you just tweet out at random, Monet is annoying. But if it's a video of, like, you going up street, going, like, tugging on their ear and pulling on their back, and the comment is, Monet is annoying, then I'm assuming it's because of what you're doing in the video.

[Monet Xchange]

But sometimes. But. But there's something that's even vague because it's like, this is like a video of me on the pitsop, right? I'm like, ugh, Monet is so annoying. About what? What is annoying? Like, that's just a general statement that you're just making a statement that, like, there are no legs to that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you never been annoyed by, like, seeing a celebrity or influencer like this?

[Monet Xchange]

Like, when you like this, like, you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

look at this person and you think to yourself, like, just seeing this person across your screen is like, this person is annoying.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, this person is annoying. I'll be like, ugh, girl, she's so annoying. I hate the way that she be

[Bob the Drag Queen]

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Monet Xchange]

But, like, there is more to the. That someone is just annoying. Someone is just annoying. That is a general statement that there is so much in that that you can explain why the annoyance is. Like, we've watched videos and, like, that bitch is so annoying. But isn't she that I hate when she be blah, blah, blah, you finish her name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who do we hate? Who do we Hate.

[Monet Xchange]

Who do we hate? Bianca Pranka.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I say it was Bianca. It was Bianca. Daria.

[Monet Xchange]

Right. You know what I mean? So that's also a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, I. I know we don't comment stuff like this person's annoy. I did one time stitch a video and being like, I have to block these two. I didn't once do that, but typically I'm not conversation be like, this person's so annoying.

[Monet Xchange]

Who. Who's your. To block these?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a couple. They. They broke up. They didn't even. It was just, like, French guys guy and this, like, American guy. They were, like, dating the black guy. I was like, I have the black. Huh?

[Monet Xchange]

The black guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They were white guys. And I was like, I have to block these two. And they ended up working at the Glad Media Awards, handing out the trophies. The year I was hosting, I was like, oh, God, this is so uncomfortable.

[Monet Xchange]

You're a star, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As long as making the rounds.

[Monet Xchange]

Is it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, like, people are, like, into that song. They're, like, really into it. But, like, is it making the rounds? Like, it's like a fierce song.

[Monet Xchange]

I just literally, randomly. I was just singing it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, maybe the song spoke to you too. You think it's fierce as well?

[Monet Xchange]

You know, I do think it's fierce. I think RuPaul makes great music. People like. I think RuPaul has such great music, especially a lot of the Runway songs hit a witcher Catwalk. Like, that's a good one. Old Friend Silver, New Friends Gold. That's a good one. Sissy. That fucking RuPaul has great music that people be acting loud. Hey, like, RuPaul. All RuPaul music just so. It's crazy, dude.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want to say a celebrity or influence that you. That you. That annoys you before you go. You don't have to. It's really shady. That's a trinity. The tuck question.

[Monet Xchange]

A celebrity or influence I find. Let me, like, open, like, my thing. Who do I find annoying?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You wouldn't be following, but you wouldn't be following them, though, would you?

[Monet Xchange]

Maybe. I don't know. Oh. Simone Bile's biological mom speaks out about wanting to reunite with her daughter. Whenever she's ready. She's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hate. I will admit, though, I hate watch things. Do you ever hate watch things?

[Monet Xchange]

No. Like, give me an example. Like what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, you watch it and you don't like it, and that's why you're watching it.

[Monet Xchange]

Maybe I do. I can't think about who I do that with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet Xchange]

But I'm sure I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you want me to go first?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's this, like, black republican gay boy. Not Christian Walker. Another one in LA who's always walking around sipping from a fucking Erewhon cup, being like you. Blm. They all have the same script. It's like you're voting for Kamala, but you don't even know. I can't. I guess I don't watch him enough to really be able to quote him. But then he has an Erewhon smoothie, and then he goes, now walk with me. He says like a really. He starts off with, like a really hot take, and then he goes, now walk with me. And then he pretends to drink from the Erewhon smoothie and he pretends to walk. And it drives me crazy. He's walking for like a minute, but the same house is in the background the whole minute he's walking. And it draw out of that drives me so crazy that he does his, like, hot Republican takes while pretending to drink this arowana smoothie and pretending to walk down the street. It drives me insane, and I really don't know why.

[Monet Xchange]

When I say you and I be on two different sides of the Internet I've never even heard of. I've never seen this. I don't know anything about what that is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's not very popular. I mean, I'm on debate TikTok, so I see a lot of people who are arguing about politics online.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm trying to look. I can't think of who I'm annoyed by. Like, I really want to answer this question. I can't think of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is there a drag queen from Drag Race that you find annoying? You see her and you're like, oh, this bitch is annoying. Just seeing her is like, ugh.

[Monet Xchange]

I used to find out about G Gun, but I don't anymore because I find her to be so unhinged and crazy. I find it entertaining. Now someone I find annoying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you invite Jigun to, like, a game night at your house? Hey, girl.

[Monet Xchange]

No, I don't think so. I don't think it will be fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I see you wanted the doll at your game.

[Monet Xchange]

Imagine Gia Gunn playing Secret Hitler.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I wouldn't invite her to my party, but. And you wouldn't either. So I guess we. We figured out we got to the

[Monet Xchange]

bottom of that pool party.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do what?

[Monet Xchange]

I would have g at a pool party.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gonna invite her to your pool party?

[Monet Xchange]

I would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Are you going to?

[Monet Xchange]

I would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not would you? Will you?

[Jacob]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right. I think we.

[Monet Xchange]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We've discussed all the things we have to discuss today. What a fun episode. This might be a hot one.

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