The One About Pride (Re-Release)

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Pride" (Re-Release)

Date: June 22, 2022
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

In this lively and heartfelt episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dive into all things Pride, sharing personal stories, queer history, and strong opinions about the state of Pride celebrations today. With their trademark hilarious banter and blunt honesty, they reminisce about their first Pride experiences, discuss the evolution and commercialization of Pride events, address controversies in queer spaces, and quiz each other's LGBTQ knowledge—all while offering guidance, encouragement, and plenty of laughs to their listeners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hype Men, Hip Hop, & Debates (02:00–06:30)

• The episode launches with Bob and Monét riffing on hip-hop culture and hype men, including tributes to Shock G (the man behind the "Humpty Hump") and a heated exchange about 90s versus 2000s musical trends.
• Quote [03:52] Bob: “Rest in peace to Shock G ... Humpty Dumpty had a great fall, and Monet didn’t give a fuck.”
• The two recount a memorable experience competing on Amanda Seales’ “Smart, Funny & Black,” sparring over game rules and mutual accusations of cheating, setting a playful, combative tone.

2. Personal Stories: Pets, Family, & Thanksgiving (08:23–15:50)

• Monét shares a running gag about her cat Colleen coming home from Bob’s assistant’s place with "scratched-up nipples," which leads to hilarious speculation.
• Bob recounts his partner Jacob’s "trial by fire" as a vegetarian at his Black family’s Mississippi Thanksgiving, showcasing their ability to laugh at cultural chaos and difference.
• They swap stories about family traditions, such as the "slug burger" and "hunch punch"—mid-South staples that blend poverty, creativity, and humor.

3. Pride Month: Timing, History, and First Experiences (19:13–30:37)

• Bob explains the logistics behind why Atlanta’s Pride shifted to October (heatstroke and grass preservation!).
• Both hosts share moving stories about their first Prides—Bob attending with his mother before even coming out, and Monét venturing to NYC Pride in drag for the first time with Jasmine Rice LaBeija.
  • Quote [24:47] Bob: “It felt like, you know what? This must be what Dorothy feels like when she lands in Oz and everything is now in color.”
  • Quote [30:06] Monét: “I was living my life, but I was so scared someone would see me… What if they put a clip of me on the news and they seen in St. Lucia?”
• The discussion touches on how queer visibility at Pride interacts with personal journeys, coming out, and family dynamics.

4. Notable Pride Parades & Memorable Gigs (33:06–43:13)

• Bob describes the smallest Pride he ever attended in Selma, Alabama (“maybe 20 people”) and explains the risks and challenges of organizing queer events in less accepting environments.
  • Quote [34:02] Bob: “Selma, Alabama is… the 10th poorest city in America. It’s tough in Selma… We didn’t really advertise. It’s just word of mouth.”
• They debate which U.S. pride parade is largest—DC’s Capital Pride vs. NYC Pride, with Monét adamant about NYC’s scale.
• Both hosts share their strategies for maximizing income during Pride season (“don’t get on a float for free; work brunches and bars instead”—[39:30]).
• Monét reminisces about performing at the massive Montreal Fierce Pride (100,000 people!) and Twin Cities Pride—throwback to sharing a trailer with pre-fame Lizzo.

5. The Changing Face of Pride: Inclusion, Corporatization, and Controversy (49:50–60:26)

• The hosts discuss Gen Z calls for less sexual expression at Pride, the tension between modesty and kink, and why Pride must remain a space for everyone—including “hoes.”
  • Quote [50:55] Bob: “Let the hoes be hoes. Hoes don’t try to stop non-hoe people from being hoes.”
  • Quote [52:12] Bob: “Do not bring your children to Pride if you do not want them to see something, at least a little bit, if not grotesquely sexually suggestive… Pride is not the place for your family. Go on the Rosie O’Donnell cruise.”
• The episode unpacks the “rainbow capitalism” debate: should corporations participate in Pride if they don’t support queer causes year-round? Both hosts agree it’s complicated, citing examples (Chick-fil-A, Pfizer, Vans), and highlight that corporate involvement doesn’t always mean financial support for the community.
  • Quote [57:08] Monét: “If Vans makes their logo rainbow for pride season, but they don’t have any float, they don’t have nothing… That must mean they love queer people. Let me go buy 18 pairs of… You know what I mean?”
  • Quote [56:07]: “Corporations are not monolithic… A lot of times the high, high, high, high, high ups don’t even know… entire charity branches of these organizations are figuring out who to give the money to.”

6. Pride Quiz Mini-Game & Queer History (60:55–71:17)

• Jacob, the (off-mic) producer, leads the hosts in a playful LGBTQ history trivia:
  • Stonewall, Compton Cafeteria Riots, the Mattachine Society, Matthew Shepard, Bowers v. Hardwick, Lawrence v. Texas, and more.
  • Amidst accusations of cheating and piggybacking, Bob and Monét’s competitive banter shines.
  • Quote [67:02] Bob: “You’re such a fucking annoying little shit. The only ones you’ve gotten right have been after I gave you the answer.”
• The quiz highlights foundational queer moments while their running gags (cheating, hyperbole, “hyper bully”) keep the energy up.

7. Affirmations, Coming Out, and Closing Wisdom (71:45–72:18)

• Monét and Bob end on affirming notes for listeners struggling with coming out or finding their place in queer spaces, underscoring the message that Pride is about authenticity and self-acceptance:
  • Quote [72:09] Monét: “Do not come out until you are ready to come out… Don’t let people make you feel like you need to do something you’re not ready to do.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:52] Bob, joking about Shock G: “Humpty Dumpty had a great fall, and Monet didn’t give a fuck.”
• [19:13] Bob, re: Atlanta’s fall Pride: “They moved it to the fall because it is one, way too hot. A lot of people were having heat strokes.”
• [24:47] Bob: “This must be what Dorothy feels like when she lands in Oz and everything is now in color.”
• [50:55] Bob: “Let the hoes be hoes. Hoes don’t try to stop non-hoe people from being hoes.”
• [52:12] Bob: “Do not bring your children to Pride if you do not want them to see something, at least a little bit, if not grotesquely sexually suggestive.”
• [57:08] Monét: “If Vans makes their logo rainbow for pride season, but they don’t have any float… That must mean they love queer people. Let me go buy 18 pairs of…”
• [72:09] Monét: “Do not come out until you are ready to come out… Don’t let people make you feel like you need to do something you’re not ready to do.”

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [02:00] – Hip-hop culture, hype men, and tribute to Shock G
• [08:23] – Cat stories, pet injuries, and family drama
• [14:15] – Thanksgiving, interracial relationships, and "Black Thanksgiving Clapback" memes
• [19:13] – History of changing Pride dates (Atlanta, weather, parks)
• [24:00] – Bob’s first Pride, coming out, and the Dorothy in Oz moment
• [28:40] – Monét’s first drag Pride in NYC with Jasmine Rice LaBeija
• [33:06] – Small-town Prides, safety, and Selma, Alabama story
• [39:30] – Pride gig economics: why NOT to get on a float for free
• [49:50] – Generational attitudes toward nudity and kink at Pride
• [56:07] – Corporate involvement in Pride: money, pinkwashing, and real support
• [60:55] – Queer history Pride Quiz (major events, court cases)
• [71:45] – Affirmative advice on coming out, closing reflections

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Tone and Language

Bob and Monét are raw, raucous, and real, blending LGBTQ history with biting humor and loving shade. Their chemistry relies on quick wit, affectionate roasts, and authentic storytelling. They oscillate between thoughtful, heartfelt conversations and out-of-pocket banter—delivering knowledge and joy in equal doses.

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Summary

"The One About Pride" is a celebratory, no-holds-barred episode that unpacks all facets of Pride: its joys, challenges, evolving controversies, and personal significance. Whether you’re looking for queer history, behind-the-scenes drag industry tips, or honest reflections on coming out and community, Bob and Monét offer a joyful, unfiltered exploration of what Pride really means—in public, in private, and in your own good time.

Transcript

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My name is Bob the Drag Queen

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and I'm Monet's James and this is sibling rivalry.

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On this week's episode, we talk about why white people love smoking weed out of a bong.

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We talk all about pride.

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And we found out what made Monet say this.

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My cat came back with a scratched up nipple last time Colleen had a big scratch on her pussy. I'm like, what is going on over there at the Warner's girl? And we find out what made Bob the Drag Queen say this.

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I didn't do nothing. Jacob had choices. Jacob had all the choices in the world. You wanted to start off by talking about how you were trying to sniffle my creativity.

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Do you want to start off by sucking my dick?

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Oh my God.

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That's not how your proposition solve work.

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Honestly, I'm into that. Suck my dick, boy. Who's. Who is that? That's a Flavor Flav flavor.

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Flavor. Yeah, boy. About Hype man one day because Fat

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man scoop Flavor Flav a whole episode about Hype Man.

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Well, hype men were a really big part of like hip hop culture.

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I know, but a whole episode? Maybe a one about hip hop. Maybe that sounds a little more feasible. Not just about Hyphen. That seems specific.

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I mean, apparently you probably couldn't do about do one about that because you know, you don't know about, you know. By the way, rest in peace to Shock G, who passed away this year, who is also a very famous Hype man as well.

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Shock G don't know her.

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Shock G You probably know him under the name Humpty Hump, but his name wasn't actually Humpty, but he said in a song, my name is Humpty.

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I'll do the Humpty Hump.

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Hey, I do the.

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He sounds like very 90s rap.

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It was very. Well, Hype men are from the.

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Like, Hype men are really 2000s? Well, there are some. They spend. Okay. Hype been spanning from, like, the. From the. From the late 80s to, like, early 2000s now. Hype men aren't really a thing anymore.

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But Hypn came out of the 90s, and they were still going on in the early.

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Hip hop came out of the 80s and 90s, too. Doesn't mean.

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Just because there are still people doing disco songs today doesn't mean disco is from the 2000s one day. This goes from the 70s, but we're

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talking about when it was popular and Hypn were popular.

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It was. It was most popular in the 90s, right?

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I said. I said. But. But you said. You said only the 90s. I said 90s.

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No, I did not. I said hypnot are from the 90s. I did not say hypn are only in the 90s. You. You just admitted you don't even know anything about a hype man.

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So why are you trying to act like that's what. I don't know. I just said that doing a whole episode about them sounds very boring to me.

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You didn't even know who Shock G was. Now you're the hype man expert.

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I don't care whether. Oh, that's the person that passed away. Oh, rest in peace.

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Wow. Humpty Dumpty had a great fall, and Monet didn't give a fuck. They're also.

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Wow, that is not funny.

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There are some very. There are some. Stop laughing. There are also some very popular hype Men from the early 2000s. I will give you that credit, because Lil Jon was basically. Well, he was from the era where hype men were like, also producers as well. So Lil Joe would basically get on a track and yell and. Yeah, okay, what.

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Which was when we did Amanda Seals. Smart, funny, and black. That was your thing. Okay, so there was a part in the game show where Bob had to do. We both had to come up with, like, a thing that would be like our buzzer sound, obviously. Cause this was digital. It was virtual because of COVID And then. So Bob's thing was he was like, my sound is gonna be okay, bitch. The first question, Bob is like, he knows he's like, okay, I'm like, bitch, you.

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What happened? No, what happened was that's not what you did. This is what happened. Amanda Seals said, make sure I finish my question, My entire question. So Amanda Seals was like, name all. Like, the third color in the rainbow is. And I thought to myself that she was just pausing. So I said, oh. And then I said, wait, are you done? She goes, yeah, I'm done. I said, okay, that's. You know, y' all can go back and watch it. I don't. I don't listen. I will find timestamps. Y' all can go back and watch it.

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I don't need to.

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Then also, what I was loving was in the chat, they were all like, monet, because I was watching on YouTube as well.

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Oh, so you were cheating. You were looking at. You're looking at the comments on YouTube. Okay, got it. Just.

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You also know that also wasn't happening because as everyone here knows, there is a severe lag. So I answered all the questions before they answered.

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You just admitted that you cheated by going in the chat. Because Amanda says. Literally said in the thing. She was like, you know, you guys always put answers in the chat. Please stop answers chat. That means that the answers will end, and you were fucking cheating.

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So let me get two things straight. So, one, you're saying that. I was saying. Okay, almost before she was even done speaking. Speaking. No, no, no, no, no.

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That's not what I said.

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Wait, wait, wait. But then you're also saying I was also waiting long enough for the answer to come into the chat. Which one is it, Monet?

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No.

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What's the choice?

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I was saying that you weren't doing.

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Make it make sense.

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You weren't doing the sound. You said your buzzer sound was going to be okay, and then it became

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okay, y' all go back and watch it. You know what? I don't need to justify my son. Monet, Y' all can go watch it.

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You.

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Y' all know that Monet is sour like a patch kid because she lost.

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First of all, we were tired at the end of Madison.

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We were not tied.

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Yes, we were tied. Okay, Bob, you lost. Bob won the first round. I won the second round. Bob won the third round. I won the fourth round, Timothy. And then at the end, Amanda literally like, so we are tied. And she was like, but I'm going to give it to Trinity K. Trinity the Duck money.

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If we tie, why did I win? Because.

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Okay, y' all go back and watch it. Oh, my God. You are so ridiculous.

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If we die, why Did I win? That's my only question.

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Okay, which show? Which is why we were invited back to do it in real life so we can find the real winner. Got it. Okay, listen.

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Okay, first of all, she did not say invite back to find the. That is. That is a narrative that you are spending this real winner narrative, y'. All. Again, y' all can go back and check it for yourself, please. Monet is just mad at hell because if you look at me now, this is me. Look at me. Look at me.

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Where did Bob go?

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Look at me.

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Oh, my God.

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This is why Monae's mad, because this is me.

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Lord. Father Jesus, help us, Lord. Help us, Father.

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Monet is so mad.

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Bob over there trying to start. Bob was also in this thing, pulling out all the shows. At one point, we had to debate about something. Bob goes and put on a fucking baby filter that shit. It was so. So you were so extra that whole show.

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I was entertaining the children. They were gagged, honey.

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They were gagged.

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And then also, Monet tried to. Monet was such a little copycat ass bitch.

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How was that copycat?

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This is how you a copycat ass bitch. We had to defend. When we had to defend our diva, I was like, I'm gonna do a whole thing where I mention. Cause I had to defend Patti LaBelle, right? So I was like, all right, I'm gonna do Patti LaBelle. So I was like, when I talk about the iconic Patricia Louise Holt. So then Monet was like, let's talk about a Bullock. You was not gonna say full names till I said full names.

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Yes, I was. Everyone knows everyone. Okay, first of all, every person on the sound of my voice listens to this podcast, has probably listened because Colleen is listening. Listening to me too, right now.

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Scratched up ass nipples.

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Oh, my God. So y', all. I, Kennedy, Bob's assistant, they are in cahoots. So I let. So I was out of town and Kennedy watched my cat, and my cat came back with a scratched up nipple. Last time Colleen had a big scratch on her. I'm like, what is going on over there at the Warner's, girl?

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Anyway, you know, the scratch stretch is getting closer and closer to the face. We about to scar this. You have to be looking like scar.

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Anyway, anyway. Oh, everyone who was. Who was listening to this has seen what's Love Got to Do With It. And Tina Turner's name. I knew her as Anime Bullock before I knew her as Tina Turner.

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But also, you probably should have known if you watch the movie that she wants to be called Tina Turner.

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I know you disrespected this bitch by

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calling her Ms. Anime Bullet.

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Oh, you just call her a. So who's, who's disrespecting who?

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Me and Tina are close like that. She likes it. She thinks it's funny.

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Well, it's also the round that I won. Did I, did I win that round or not technically. Did I win Technically? No.

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Did I win or not?

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There's no technical do that or not technically.

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Also, they didn't that during the second round the voting crash. And I believe that all the Bob votes didn't get in in time.

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And I said, what in the Donald Trump is Bob going through on this day? You know what, Amanda? There was a whole lot of collusion. My votes didn't come in.

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That's a collusion. I don't believe that there was. Right. We have a massive problem in the voting population when the ballots are being disputed by the contestants on Smart, funny and black.

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But this also reminded us that Bob and I, because with the, with the pandemic and everything and since election night we haven't done it. We used to do our like our monthly sibling rivalry like live Patreon show. So we're going to get back to doing those as well because we, those are honestly really fun and people can listen to us do it live and chime in live. And it was. Those are a really good time. So we're going to get back to doing it.

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Girl. That Patreon, that election night, Kiki was. I don't know what we were thinking because it could have gone so south.

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I know, I know. But it was great. It was a good time.

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Again. I will never forget where I was when Donald Trump won the first time at a party. And then feeling like a fool because I was at a fucking party and I was like, God damn. God.

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That probably was a sad ass party like. Cause when we all knew what it was going to be like around 10:30, 11:00pm Eastern Standard Time, were y' all all just quiet? Like what was going on at this party?

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So we were at the party. Heidi, Heidi Ho was dressed up as Hillary Clinton. There were a couple of Donald Trump impersonators there as well. All the Donald Trump impersonators started slowly disappearing throughout the night. And then Heidi was dressed as Hillary. She got really, really drunk. Everyone honestly just got really sad. There was a moment where we were like cheering because Hillary was in leave for a minute and then Trump started pulling up in electorals and then we all just got sad. And that was the first time that I had ever heard New York City silent. Like it was in my 12 years living in New York City. That was the first time I was like, damn. It is quite Wyatt as hell up

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in here in your 12 years of shave. Oh, Mother Shannon sent me a DM.

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What she say?

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I need to respond to it. Mother Shannon Dunhead said. It was like. She was like. She was like, I. It was something like, I have something for you. I'm. Send me your address with. With some heart emojis. You meant I don't know what. Don't you dare.

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What is she about to send you? The fucking one, two bitch. You know, I got something for you. Send me your address.

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Send me your address with heart emoji. We've been very nice. Mother Shannon. I think mother Shannon maybe listens or one of her kids listens and she hears us celebrating her often. And mother Shannon has my heart. I love her so much. I wish she'd be my mom, honestly. Fuck you.

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You know what? I got something for you. Run me your address.

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Oh, my God. I was on Facebook today and I saw the cutest video of Ms. Martha eating a slug sandwich.

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Oh, my God,

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it's so cute.

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My mother is really a country. Country lady.

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What kind of sandwich is it?

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A slug burger is.

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Slug burger. That's what it is.

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A slug burger is a burger, but it's not all beef. So like back in the day when people when, like when there was a shortage of beef or if you're really poor, live in a poor area, you couldn't. The restaurant couldn't sell full beef burgers. They would, like, mix it in with, like, cornmeal and other stuff. So it's like flour and other stuff. So it still kind of tastes like a burger, but it's less beef. And it's got some, like, basically gluten in the burger to add to like, make the.

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Give it body.

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Yeah. To make the beef go further.

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Got it. Do you like slug burgers?

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Yeah, I mean, they're fine, to be honest. They just taste like burgers. They taste like burgers that are, like, a little bit bready on the inside. Right, Jacob. Jacob had his slug burger. Also. Girl Jacob came in my family and they was like, let me tell her. Now, my black family, there was this meme on. There was this meme black Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving blackout. Thanks. What's it called? Thanksgiving clapback. And it was a picture of Michelle Obama looking at this white lady like this. And it says when your white girlfriend says she normally eats vegetarian. This was literally my Experience Jacob up in Mississippi, talking about some. I'm normally vegetarian. Every. Girl Jacob ate ribs on that week. That was like, did he really? He would have starved. He would have starved to death. There is my family does not.

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Not you making Jacob sick on Thanksgiving.

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I didn't do nothing. Jacob had choices. Jacob had all the choices in the world. Wow.

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That's like giving someone a handgun and a hand grenade. They're like, pick your poison, bitch.

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Okay, first of all, I don't cook. I was not cooking Jacob anymore.

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You don't cook. He don't clean.

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But let me tell you how I got this ring. All I did was take Jacob to Mississippi. And the next thing you knew my Aunt Hazel and my mother was like, j, grab some of these ribs. Now, you said you're vegetarian. Can you eat ribs? Now you're vegetarian, but can you eat catfish? Okay, you vegetarian? Can you eat pork chops? There was the table with all the food, and I got up, and I was going for the corn, and one of his aunts came up and just started putting everything onto my plate.

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Word.

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And I was like, I couldn't, like, not eat the chicken, girl. Jacob was in Mississippi, in Corinth, Mississippi,

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looking like the only sore thumb. Also, one of my favorite Thanksgiving clapback pictures. It's like the quintessential black mom with her bonnet in her room, on her bed, sitting down. And then there's her black son, and the door is open, and there's a white girl standing up there, too. And it goes, Rebecca. Just wanted to know why y' all are eating her potato salad. That shit is so funny to me. This is another one I saw today. It says, this girl, her name is nwdafanta. It said, smoking with a white girl. She keeps saying thank you every time I pass the blunt. Thank you.

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I mean, I have done a blunt circle, like, maybe once or twice. I don't smoke weed. When I was in college, I used to smoke weed and.

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And meth and cocaine a little.

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Like, a little. But nothing crazy.

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Okay.

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Okay. No, but I used to. Like, I've done a few blunt circles, but I also used. None of my black friends smoked weed in college. It was only my white friends who smoked weed.

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Oh, really?

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So. So they were into bongs.

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Oh, my God. White people are obsessed with. White people love bongs. They can't get enough of bongs. They love bongs.

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None of my black friends smoked weed. It was me, Leisha, Val, Sarah. None of us smoked weed. All of us were like. I mean, we drank, but all the White folks were fucking stoners.

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Really? Well, I mean, that was, like, a really big trope in, like, the early 2000s, right? Like, you think of, like, Cannes? Hardly. And those, like, white movies, like, White Teenager Mov. From, like, that time, it was always the white kids, like, doing bongs.

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I'm like, yeah, but. I mean, but black folks were. It was a trope for black people, like, smoke weed every day.

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That is true. I guess that is true.

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And also, what was the movie with How High? Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle's Half Baked.

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Oh, half baked. How High? With Method Man.

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How high with Method Man? Yeah. I mean, I think that there were just different cultures. I was just never in. I did one month hard time as a stoner. One month. I got out of the game. I was out.

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I'm good.

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It was nice, but I'm out. It's been lovely. It's been lovely.

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Well, let's take a break, and then we can talk more about your bad habits.

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Yo, let's get high. Smoke weed every day.

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Such a good song.

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Close your eyes. Exhale.

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Feel your body relax. And let go of whatever you're carrying today.

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Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh. They're so fast.

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And breathe.

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Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste.

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1-800-contacts.

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Wait, what are we talking about today? I don't even know what we're doing today.

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Monat, I'm so glad you asked that question, because today we're talking about. Read my chest. Read what it say.

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Read it to me what your chest says.

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You don't know what my tattoo says without looking.

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Wait, I do know. I do know. Hold on. I get up out of bed, I put on my shoes. Cause I got bills to pay.

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My shoes I forgot about.

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I put on my clothes. I forgot.

[C]

Yes, clothes. I get up out of bed, I put on my clothes. Cause I got bills to pay now it ain't easy? But I don't need no help. I got a strong will to survive. I've got a deeper love. A deeper love. Deeper love inside. I feel like at the beginning of what's the podcast where he always sings

[A]

the Reading of the Read, he always

[C]

opens the read with a song.

[A]

I think Kid Fury is so cute.

[C]

Very cute.

[A]

So cute. I knew him before the read. He used to. He had, like, a few viral videos. That's how I came to know him. And then, like, years later, I remember posting online. We're like. Cause this is when I was just getting into podcasts. I was like, can someone recommend, like, silly fun, like, black podcasts? And so whenever they recommended the read to me, I was like, oh, my God. And then I made the connection with him. I love him.

[C]

Yeah, it's a really great podcast and very, very adorable. And today we're talking about Pride Month.

[A]

Pride. Mother Tucking Month.

[C]

Now, you know. So June is Pride Month. But then, of course, I learned in my travels that basically there are places that celebrate Pride.

[A]

Your city.

[C]

Well, Atlanta. Back in my gate, when I lived in Atlanta, we did Pride during June, but now Pride is in October.

[A]

Who made that decision? Was there some governor, like, we moving that shit to, right?

[C]

No, they moved it to. From what I understand, they moved it to the fall because it is one way too hot. A lot of people were having heat strokes. And also, it happens in Piedmont park. And that, like, destroys the grass. Like, the grass just gets ruined every in the summer is when they, like, the. Like, the grass is still vibrant from the spring, and the grass dies during the fall anyway. So they're like, go ahead, just do it during the fall.

[A]

I remember a few years ago, I Onto a few years ago, probably like two days ago, I was. I was on doing some gig in Atlanta, and I had a day off, and I went into Piedmont park, and I was like, posting videos on Piedmont Park.

[C]

Dogs and gays. Dogs and gays.

[A]

And Bob called me. He was like, monet, you need to call my mom. I was like, what happened? She's like, you are in Atlanta. She saw your Instagram story. She's very upset. You have not called her. I was like, oh, my God. And I called your mom.

[C]

Oh, if my mom finds out that you're in Atlanta and you don't tell her, it's a wrap, bitch. I would be on a layover for 15 minutes. She'll be like, you didn't tell me. You were. I was like, mom, I'm here for 15 minutes on a layover. There is nothing you and I can do together at any point during this layover. Well, you should have just told me. You should have just told me.

[A]

Have you celebrated at. Was your. So was the first party celebrated in. In Atlanta? In Piedmont Park?

[C]

Yeah, the very first Pride I ever celebrated was at Piedmont Park. I was in high school.

[A]

Oh, in high school.

[C]

My mom took me. Yeah, my mom took me to Pride.

[A]

Bob, when did you come out? I don't think I know when you came out. Oh, my God. I don't know when you came out.

[C]

I came out My. I came out to my mother the day after grad I graduated high school, but my mom took me to Pride before I came out. I think she.

[A]

She's like, let me. Let me take this gas.

[C]

Well, my mom used to go to Pride, too.

[A]

My mom.

[C]

My mom would go to Pride all the time.

[A]

Right, right, right. And so. So when you used to go to these Prides. Well, before we get to that, like, set the scene. What. What is the. You were like, you. Were you at. Were you having a Slug Burger?

[C]

I was. That's. That's Mississippi.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

And they must have drove that Slug Burger from Mississippi to my mother's house, which is so. Which is a five hour drive. There's no way. I mean, maybe they found a. Somewhere in Atlanta. I'm sure Atlanta has someone making Slug Burgers, but I only ever heard of a Slug Burger come from Mississippi. Whenever I'm there, my mom's like, oh, get me a Slug Burger. And I'd be like, eat a burger.

[B]

Burger.

[C]

Anyway, so we.

[B]

We.

[C]

It was the weekend. It was Saturday, and my mom took me down to Piedmont Park. And I've been to Piedmont park before because it is. It is the place where gays and dogs go. If you're gay or a dog, where

[A]

you go there to, like, hook dog.

[C]

No. I mean, probably, but not me. I was in high school, and I also didn't have a car. I mean, I couldn't get to Piedmont park from Clayton County. I mean, you could take the C Tran, but you don't want to. You don't want to take the C train all the way to Piedmont Park. That's crazy.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Anyway, so anyway, when you get. When you. When I showed up, we parked at the Mellow Mushroom, which is right outside of Piedmont Park. And I used to love Mellow Mushroom, too. It was one of my favorite piece of places. It's actually my favorite pizza place growing up. And then I discovered the magic of Domino's Thin crust pepperoni pizza.

[A]

Anyway, CC's has entered the chat.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Atlanta is riddled with CC.

[C]

Yeah, she's in the chat, but ain't nobody responding to her. Okay, she left on red Pizza.

[A]

Pizza. Okay. The CC's dessert pizza. Like, the cinnamon with, like, the icing swirl on it. That is literally the most delicious thing I've ever put in my okay, Let

[C]

me tell you right now, if your whole team is comprised of literally one great player, you're not the. You may have mvp, but you're not going to win the. The championship, okay? Domino's has a team of all stars. The Lava cake, the Wings, the.

[B]

The.

[C]

The. The bowls, the. The pasta.

[A]

Honestly, I'm getting that today. I had a really hard week. Yes. Myself to some dominoes.

[C]

Some nasty fat today, girl. Big fat. Big Fat, fat. Busted out my.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Anyway. Yeah, so we heard mushroom, and I

[C]

remember getting out, and my mom didn't tell me we were going to Gay Pride. She. We just went down there, and then, like, I remember, like, getting out of the car and seeing these two gay guys walking at me who I remember thinking were very attractive, and they were both wearing matching outfits. And I remember thinking to myself, like, that's gonna be me. That's gonna be me.

[A]

Did they look like a couple that only speaks in we. I can't.

[C]

Yeah, they were. They were definitely a wee couple. They were very, very that. They looked like. I mean, they were literally just passing by. I mean, they. In my mind, they were, like, way taller than me, which is probably not true because I was 6, 2 at the time, but in my. They were. They were. They were. They were, like, muscly guys wearing these, like.

[A]

Got it.

[C]

Like, tank tops and matching shorts. And I just remember being like, that's about to be me. Like, that's about to be me. And then we walked into the park, and my mom was like, yeah, we're at Pride, and we, like, walk through all the vendors and, like, just seeing all the queer people. It was just so. It felt like I was like, you know what? It felt like, this must be what Dorothy feels like when she lands in Oz and everything is now in color. She's like, what the fuck is going on?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, got it.

[C]

And then.

[A]

So then you walk in, you're like, mom, I am gay.

[C]

No, I didn't tell I was gay until the night I graduated high school.

[A]

Like, tell me that story is that. I wanted to find out.

[C]

Oh, I thought you wanted to know about the. Okay, so I came home from graduation. I was helping my mom take out her micro braids. I mean, the story gets gayer and gayer. I was helping my mom take out her micro braids.

[A]

You know, I was breathing her scalp.

[C]

You know that thing where. Where you're taking out your.

[B]

Where.

[C]

Where, like, people take out their braids and they be like, where's the new growth?

[A]

Oh, my God. Yes. Yes,

[C]

bitch. My Mama's hair was. Y' all can't. If y' all can't see me. I'm holding my hands about an inch apart. I was like, maybe it's out here. No, Mary, you had the braids in for a month. Not three years. Not three years. Your hair is not growing that long. Also, the new growth grows at the root.

[A]

It doesn't braids.

[C]

They be killing me. I'm just gonna do all the way out here, just in case you never.

[A]

No, girl, we can go right down to the scalp, baby.

[C]

So that's my mom take out her micro braids. And I was like, mom, I want to tell you some stuff. I want you to know a few things about me because, you know, I'm an adult now. I graduated high school.

[A]

This sounds. This is such a. Bob. This is so Bob. Bob, this is so you.

[C]

I'm 17 years old. I'm gonna be going off to college. I got accepted to csu. This is a pretty big deal. It's basically the Harvard of Columbus, Georgia. It is the best school in Columbus, Georgia, I'll say that. I said. I said, well, you know, I want. You know that guy drunk over spring break. And she was like, that's okay. I was like. And I want you to know that I think I like. I think I like men.

[A]

Like, I think you. You fully have a butt plug talking to her in your ass. I think I like guys.

[C]

I was like, I think. I'm not sure, though.

[A]

What did she say?

[C]

I don't know. Maybe I'll be. Guys,

[A]

what did she say?

[C]

And she was like, oh. I mean, I think she was pretending to be shocked because she's like, oh. Oh, my. Well, you know, this is. I'm gonna have to process this. I'm like, mom, like, what's good? Like, Miley, Like. Like you. You are not gonna win this acting challenge. Ms. Caldwell, I was the president at the time. I had just done stepped down as a president of the drama club through graduating high school.

[A]

Not Bobby being the Lea. Michelle of. Of Columbus, Georgia.

[C]

Barely. I. I was beloved. Wait, was Leah Michelle's character beloved, or is it just Lee?

[A]

No, they did not like her. They did not.

[C]

She's like, really? Like, it's.

[A]

Yeah. Art imitates life Imitates art. Yeah, that whole circle, girl. But work. That's cute.

[C]

How about you? What's your first pride?

[A]

My first pride, the first I went to was with Jasmine Rice Labeija. I had not been to a pride.

[C]

Wait, so you were, like, an adult?

[A]

Adult, yeah. I was like 22. Like 21. 21, 22. Something like that.

[C]

You never snuck out when you were in high school to go to Pride? No, I didn't cut it in New York.

[A]

Oh, I know, but like, the funny.

[C]

I would have been up in there in middle school.

[A]

The funny thing is I used to, like, go to, like, all the gay clubs thinking I had, like, a fake id. I would go to all the gay clubs and stuff, but I never went to a Pride. And so I meet Jazmine Ricelbaja at this summer opera program, and we're working together and, like, we find out that we both watch Drag Race. We like Drag Race. And then she's like, we should go. Because it was. This was summertime. The arts program was from like the middle of May through July. And she was like, pride is coming. We should go. And I was like, girl, I can't go to a Pride. That's like gay, gay. She's like, bitch, you like Drag Race. You think you're going to a Pride? And she was like. And then. And you know Jasmine, then she start adding layers and she's like, we should like, walk the parade. I was like, oh, that's so much. She's like, we should walk the parade in drag. Just adding steaks. Just adding steaks.

[C]

You know what? We should get raw dog in the middle of the parade. Get our backs broke while sniffing poppers. Let's just try it.

[A]

So I was like, okay. So I went. I don't know how I found these shoes to fit me, but these shoes fit me.

[C]

Well, how did you get in the parade? You can't just get.

[A]

Oh, you know Jasmine. How did Jasmine are breaking the rules? Like, we. I met Jasmine at her apartment back then. She was living on 155th and Broadway. She had an apartment there. Mind you, she had an apartment. She didn't have any ac. So it was me and Jasmine painting in her hot top level apartment in the middle.

[C]

You did drag at your first ever Pride? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And I got it.

[C]

You are.

[A]

I know, I got it. I got painted. I got this dress from Forever 21, and I put this short blonde wig on to one I used to wear all the time. I Wore for like 10 years after that. And we got painted and we got in the train and we went down to the. To. To. To 42nd street and we walked over bitch in heels. From the time I left Jasmine's house to the end of the Pride Parade, I was in these six shin's heels. Okay. Thinking I was turning the party then we get to the thing, and they have the barricades. And I'm like, jasmine, how are we gonna get in the thing? And she's like, girl, it's easy. So Jasmine, fucking monster truck ass picks up the metal barricade, moves it, and we just walk into the parade and we just join the float.

[C]

That is so. Chase was like, we ain't paying these bitches.

[A]

I mean, rocked the whole thing from, like. From, like, from 39th street and the 5th Aven Avenue all the way down to the end in Chelsea. I mean, in. In Christmas, how did you feel?

[C]

Were you, like. Were you, like, living your life?

[A]

I was living my life, but I was so scared that someone would see me, because back then I was, like, fully out to my front, to my. To my. Again, fully out to, like, my. My family in America, my. My friends and everything. But my. My parents in. In St. Lucia didn't know. I was like, what if this. They put a clip of me on the news and they seen in St. Lucia, I was so, like, nervous the entire time.

[C]

What is it about music majors? They be so gay. They be the gayest people ever, but they don't be out. It is.

[A]

So is that a thing that we're music majors?

[C]

Yes, because I'm not out in any of your friends. But you've had some friends who are out now who were saying they were not out when I met them. And I was like, okay, Miss Bitch. Like, sure, Miss Thing. Okay, sweet bitch. To quote.

[A]

Okay, that's one. That's, like, maybe three experiences. That's not. That's not.

[C]

That's like three. That's, like three of your friends. So I was like, oh, sure. And then there was. There was this guy who was in the music program at csu. We were from the theater program. We were all. Everyone's out. Even. Even the straight people were gay. Like, everyone was gay. And then there was this one guy who was like. And when I say gay, Monet, he was like, imagine like silky nutmeg. He kind of reminded me of silky, actually. He was very silky. Like, very gay and very, like. I mean, just like. Just a queen. And then I just thought he was out and gay. And then one day he said to me, he was like, y' all gay people are so interested. Work.

[A]

That's always the gag. Like, n. Who the fuck you talking to?

[C]

I said, you mean us? You mean we? What? You mean y'? All? Like, what? Like, what do you mean, y'?

[B]

All?

[C]

And he was like, I'm not gay. And I was like, it's like that clip of Britney Spears realizing Ryan Seacrest isn't gay.

[A]

Wait, what is that clip?

[C]

There's a brilliant clip online of Britney Spears realizing that Ryan Seacrest is not gay. Ryan Seacrest is talking to Will. I am. And then Ryan Seacrest says, I love to put my. Spray my perfume, my girlfriend's perfume when she's gone. And Britney Spears, like,

[A]

this is live. Britney Spears was like there. Like she.

[C]

Britney is in the middle. They are on either side. And he says he like sprays his girlfriend's perfume on like a. On like a pillow or something. And Britney Spears look, oh my God, Jigga's leg. And Britney Spears is like, oh.

[A]

I mean, to be fair for the. I thought Ryan Seacrest was gay from since the first time I met him on American Idol. And then I remember having this realization too. He did something and he said girlfriend or his wife. And I was like, what is going on? I still. I still think that gay every.

[C]

I thought he was gay since the first time I met him at that bath house. And he was bastard blasting my back out.

[A]

I thought he was gay. What has been the most fun pride. You've done like, you know, because again, Bob and I have done a lot of pride since we. Since we've been traveling the world and etc. The most fun part you've been to.

[C]

I'm a little younger, so I've done a few less than Monet. But yeah, I've done a lot of prides, to be honest. So me and Mitch did Selma, Alabama pride. This was a. It was the smallest pride I've ever done. I mean, when did you do it? When or why?

[A]

When?

[C]

This was maybe four or five years ago. Four years ago. Maybe maybe three. You know, time when you're traveling, it all becomes. It wasn't two. Was it two? It was before you and I were dating. I don't know. Whatever. I don't know. Remember, it was Selma, Alabama pride and girl, there were probably 20 people at this pride. Maybe 20. Yes. Because they didn't feel comfortable advertising because Selma, Alabama is a. Is. It's like one of the most dangerous cities in America.

[A]

Is it really?

[C]

It is the 10th Forest City in a town in America.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Like, it is so Selma, Alabama. It's tough in Selma. So they were like, we don't really advertise. It's just word of mouth. We just tell the people and then the people around Selma come. But also Montgomery is so close that everyone just goes to Montgomery. Montgomery's like an hour away from Selma. So they're like, why would I go to Selma and risk, you know, danger when I can just go to Montgomery, Alabama, instead? You know what I mean?

[A]

Got it, got it, got it.

[C]

But, yeah, it was really. It was. I mean, girl, it was an A. I mean, when I say small, first of all, there was a ceiling fan above me that I could grab with my hand, like I was in a small room. There were more performers than there were people in the audience. But it was really rewarding. The people there were like, we needed this. I was able to meet this group called Black Sheep, who's based out of Selma. I think now they go by the name Knights and Orchids. They're like, basically the queer center in Selma, Alabama, run by this great guy named Q. But anyway, long story short, they were. It was. It was really fun. And then after that was probably. Well, it was a weird one. It was Capital Pride. I did Capital Pride in dc, which is one of the biggest pride. So I think the two biggest prides in America are actually Wisconsin Pride Fest and Capitol Pride are the two biggest pride in America.

[A]

No, New York City is not New York City.

[C]

Not a debate.

[A]

Jacob, can you please look it up? Jacob, I need a fact check. I. I find it very hard to believe that New York City is not one of the biggest prides in America.

[C]

So Pride Fest is the largest queer music festival in the world.

[A]

Okay, but is that a pride? Is that, like a city pride?

[C]

But it is during Pride. It is during Pride. It is. It is their pride of. It's the largest queer music festival in the world. And Capital Pride is. Is also just. It's just. It's massive.

[A]

Where. Where. Where's capital at?

[C]

You ever heard of the capital of the United States?

[A]

Oh, like.

[C]

Oh, D.C. yes. So, Cap. Capital Pride was. I think it was like. Like, the. The main event was like, 70,000 people, and it was me and Naomi. But it was also. It was very, like. It was just an emotional pride because it was the day after the Pulse nightclub incident.

[A]

Oh, okay. Got it.

[C]

It was literally the day after. Like, the next day.

[A]

Oh, my God. I don't know how people even felt comfortable even going out.

[C]

We didn't. And it was this big thing where we're all kind of, like, just leaning on to each other and being like, we're here, like, being like, living out loud is Pride. Like, they're trying to terrorize us. They're trying to scare us into the closet. We will not let that happen.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Well, you said also. You said 70,000 people, New York Pride has to have way more than 70,000 people.

[C]

But so. So here's what you're not what.

[B]

You're.

[C]

What you're not allowing to enter the frame. So the events themselves. Like, when you say, like, the, like, Pride is like, who's in New York City now? The concert at the pier with, like, share.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Pedal a bell. That is the. That's the right.

[A]

And I'm saying that has to be way more than 70,000 people.

[C]

It's not. So, I mean, obviously, World Pride was like a massive. But I think it's based off of the actual. Because Pride is like one big thing. Like, the. The city doesn't actually throw pride. It's just like a bunch of. There's like a Pride Association Parade and then a bunch of little infinity events.

[A]

I've been to Prides. I know how Prides work. And I'm just saying, taking all that into account, I still believe New York probably has the biggest one. But we'll find out, you know. And let me tell you something, what will happen? People will sign off and let us know how fucking wrong both of us are, so we don't have to fret.

[C]

Well, I'm also basing off of the events themselves. So Capital Pride is an event at DC Pride.

[A]

Okay. Okay. You've literally said that 14 times.

[C]

So.

[A]

So now you know, we're clear.

[C]

And your children will someday know.

[A]

Before Drag Race and even still on Drag Race, but especially before Drag Race. I used to love Pride season because, you know, you get so many corporate gigs, and it's just a chance to really get, like, a lot of money from, like, from.

[B]

From.

[A]

From corporate gigs and just more.

[C]

You didn't tell me your best Pride, though.

[A]

Oh, well, again, let me just tell you this thing. I used to love Pride time because, as you know, being the queen in the city, like, you get. You have your gigs and stuff, but, you know, you just. Living in New York City is expensive. And I used to especially look forward to Pride. Cause I knew I would get. There would be an influx of work, and there would, you know, a chance to increase my bag a little bit for a rainy day, you know?

[C]

Yeah, I agree. And I think if you are a working queen, and you want my advice to you is this.

[B]

This.

[C]

If you're trying to make coin on the day of the parade, do not get on a float wrap. Don't get on the float for free at all, because they'll like, if.

[A]

So if you're.

[C]

If you're like a working girl, you'll get paid to be on the float, but it'll be. It'll be basically what the bar would pay you. So I used to get paid to be on floats, but it was, like, maybe a little bit better than the bar paid. But if you work like a brunch on the float, on the. On the parade route and then book yourself that night, a gig at the bar, you will make way more than on that float. Because the flow is that when. When. When I tell you you have to be in drag early to get on

[A]

the floor and hot as hell.

[C]

When I say early, y', all, I'm not playing. It is early. So by the time you have a gig at night, it's a wrap. You got to take a little nap, get tired. Don't even try.

[A]

You greasy.

[C]

Don't even try to get on the train to go back uptown, back downtown. The train is insane. Everything is just clusterfuck. So what you want to do is get yourself a brunch gig on the route. Every. Get every restaurant, gay bar, straight bar, biker bar. They're all doing brunches. Trust me. And then take yourself a little break, Come back at night, do a drag show that night. You will make coin. Thought that's the money.

[A]

Yeah. One, one Pride. I did Shaquita, hosted a brunch, and then I performed in that brunch, and then I had, like, another gig at, like. Like this. So this was my schedule. That pride. I did, like, a brunch at shaquita from, like, 11 to, like, three. And then I had, like, another gig at a bar to do to host and do two number, like, two hours from, like, five until seven. And then I had therapy that night from, like, for, like, 11 to, like, 1am Bitch, that pride. I made so much money between tips and what the. Because and what the bars were paying me. I made, like, a solid, like, just being a local girl. That pride. I made, like, a solid, like, 2,500 bucks. And I was like. I was like, more kitty cat wigs for everybody, honey.

[C]

Exactly. And my tip is now, if you're not a girl who gets gig, get your ass on the floor and take that money. But if you're a girl who works, do the gigs, in my opinion, it's better than the parade.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

Tell us your favorite Pride, which.

[A]

So it was. It's a cross between Fierce. Have you done Fierce in Montreal? The big Pride celebration there? Yeah, that's what I did. And the reason why that one sticks out to me is because it's just major. Like, you're on this, like, huge. This huge stage of like, literally 100,000 people sitting.

[C]

Yeah, bitch.

[A]

70,000 people. This one is literally, like 100,000 people at Montreal Fierce Pride. It is like a sea of people and you're performing for them. And I remember doing that Pride, and I was like, if I ever did this, Pride, this was like a year into my Drag Race stuff. So I wasn't really, like, aware of the power, like, what I should be doing on stage. But if I was to ever perform for that many people, I would have to hire dancers and do a thing. I just did my little Let there be love. Just me on stage. I should have had a whole crew, like, a whole thing, you know?

[C]

Yeah, that was a good. I hosted it when I did it. But, you know, you're probably like a little. Little featured act when you did it.

[A]

That was the one that Bianca.

[C]

I know, I know. That's why I made that face. I know.

[A]

But that is a good. That is a good one. It just makes you feel like. Like a superstar. And I also. I wish Patty was here. It's either Indianapolis or Twin Cities Pride or one.

[C]

You talk like Patty's dead. I wish Patty was still with us,

[B]

cuz.

[C]

Patty, remember.

[A]

You know, my memory is complete shite. As.

[C]

Yeah, girl. It was San Diego. We did San Diego.

[A]

It was the G. I did. We did Twin Cities Pride, I believe. And this was before.

[C]

This was.

[A]

Honestly, Bob, I feel like four months before Lizzo popped off, we were. Me and Lizzo were in trailers next to each other at Twin Cities Pride, just hanging. You know what I'm saying? And then.

[C]

I know the feeling. I walked up to Lizzo, walked right up to her and gave her a dollar at DragCon. Cause she was performing at DragCon New York. So Lizzo was up there doing Phone. Where the hell my phone? And I was like, oh, my God, I love this song. So I left my. My booth, ran over to Lizzo. There was barely anyone watching her. And I was like, girl, I love you. And everyone's freaking out because it was about the Drag Queen. I was like, y' all need to be paying attention to fucking Lizzo, girl.

[A]

And, yeah, so 20 days pride was a really fun time. We met with her, but.

[C]

And also, Lizzo, if you're listening, I gave you 20. I was. I was trying to give you 10. You owe me $10.

[A]

Imagine.

[C]

Tag, Lizzo.

[A]

I love Lizzo. I love, love, love, love, love Lizzo. It's Lizzo. Queer. She's not right.

[C]

I don't think she identifies as queer, but I'm not sure.

[A]

Yeah, well, the queer community really rallies and loves her and I just. Lizzo, honestly, Lizzo be empowering me to, to, to post naughty videos on Instagram. Cuz Lizzo will be twerking her booty on Insta. And I'm like, you know what?

[C]

I'mma do it too. And you are, you have definitely been empowered because I, I had to, I had to log into my mom's Instagram and block you so she didn't have

[A]

to see y' all gag. In a few months, Bob gonna be on that, on that naked tip on Instagram too.

[C]

Y' all gonna be like under Monet. Could you even, ever imagine me even, even if I had the body of Diego or Plastique Tiara, I would never. I don't have it in me to be that naked on the Internet.

[A]

But you do have it in you to be a whore.

[C]

Oh yeah. No. I will spread the love stuff behind.

[A]

Do you think cops. Because you know, in New York City they're banning cops from coming. From coming to the Pride Parade. What do you, what do you think about that?

[C]

Oh, they're banning cops from coming to the Pride Parade work. I don't know. I've never even thought about. I mean, cops have just been at every parade I've ever been at. I've never, I've never not seen the cops there. There's never been a time where I didn't see cops ever. I can't, I can't even. I can't. I genuinely can't even fathom parade without the cops. Are they going to have like, they

[A]

have to have something because you know, obviously the cops are there to make sure everyone is being safe and etc. But a few months ago also, if

[C]

y' all don't know what, if y' all don't know what it's like in the west, in the West Village around 8:30 it gets.

[A]

That's because everybody been day drinking during the parade.

[C]

Yeah. And it's a bunch of gay boys acting crazy. A couple of butch lesbians yelling at some femme lesbian outside of the lunchbox. It'd be the girl down by the New Jersey transit, that little area. Ooh, ooh, the nutcrackers they be trying to see.

[A]

Oh my God, I saw this story. This guy makes $20,000 a month selling nutcrackers throughout the summer. He makes enough money selling nutcrackers throughout the summer that he doesn't have to work for the rest of the year.

[C]

I mean, open a bar at that

[A]

point, Honestly, I'm like, that is so. I was like, I did not know the nutcracker business, if y' all don't know. If you know. Because I think it's a very New York thing. Nutcrackers.

[C]

I had never heard of it till I got to New York City.

[A]

Oh. But I used to live on nut. But me and my friends, like, in high school, used to buy nutcrackets all the time over on 135th and Lenox from dudes up there. Well, so they used to sell them at bodegas. Like, you could, like, be, yo, how much? How much? And they would change, and they were like, how much? How much are the nut rackets today, sir? They'd be like, oh, it's seven today, or it'll be five, or it'll be four. You have to change all the time.

[C]

Monet's gonna tell. Monet's gonna tell us what a nutcracker Jacob keeping, like, whoa. I'm like, monet's gonna tell us what a nutcracker Jacob's like, but she's

[A]

gonna get to it. A nutcracker is. Well, these. So the nutcracker is. They just put alcohol and juices, and they make their own concoction of alcohol and juices. And they either put it in pouches or they put it in you.

[C]

What.

[A]

What are those things? You know what I'm talking about?

[C]

So it looks like. It looks like when you buy the. The tampico.

[A]

There we go. Orange juice.

[C]

But the one that's like a square and straight up. There's no dimensions to it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So like, the cheap orange juice, it's like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it'll be in those containers. And then they either sell bodegas or guys sell on the street in, like, coolers. And it's. It's all over New York City, I guess it's still pop.

[C]

And it's literally. It's just a cocktail. There's no. There's no one recipe. There's no one alone.

[B]

Alcohol.

[C]

It's basically cocktails like punch, but sold illegally on the street.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, on the street. I mean, he makes.

[C]

That's what he makes.

[A]

He has a whole. I think it's a. This is now article about how you make. He makes $20,000 a month selling nutcrackers.

[C]

I mean, well, he's obviously not paying taxes on it because he's illegally selling on the street, which you cannot. You can't sell alcohol on the street.

[A]

Well, maybe he is. If he's doing an article about it. I'm sure he has. There's. He's.

[C]

He's.

[A]

He's legitimate himself in order to do an article about it.

[C]

Maybe he masked his identity. We'll talk more about it when we get back. I'm actually kind of jokes. I never. I never tasted it. I moved to New York City sober, so I never. I've never bought a nutcracker off this.

[A]

Off the street, they're hit or miss. Honestly, more. More hits than misses. But sometimes you get one of like, girl, this is just juice.

[C]

In Georgia, but we had something called Hunch Punch.

[A]

Punch. Hunch Punch. That's just something nasty. Hunch.

[C]

Now. Now I'm about to make y' all country. Now I'm about to have a country experience. So you didn't sell Hunch Punch. You just gave Hunch Punch away. It's at parties. Every party has Hunch Punch. Hunch Punch is like Kool Aid, cheap juice, and then something called Everclear.

[A]

Oh, girl, I've heard about that.

[C]

If y' all know what Everclear is, Ever clear is nail polish remover. It's paint thinner. It's gasoline. So to give you. Give you an idea, Jack Daniels is 80 proof. 80 proof means it is 40 alcohol. That's what proof means. So if something is 100 proof, it is 50 alcohol. The other. The other 50 is like juices and waters and. And botanicals and all that. Everclear is 95 alcohol. It is 1. It is 210 proof.

[A]

Disgusting.

[C]

No. What's that? What's that? No one. What's that? Do math for me.

[A]

Hey, Google 95.

[C]

What's 95 times 2?

[A]

One hundred and ninety, babe.

[C]

95 times 2. It is 190 proof, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

This is literally stronger than rubbing alcohol.

[A]

That's disgusting.

[C]

Most rubbing alcohol you get from the grocery store or the CVS pharmacy is 70%. It is insane. So you mix all the Hawaiian punch and a bunch of stuff. Again, there's no recipe. But the one thing that makes it a hunch punch is pouring in Everclear, and it ruins you.

[A]

Ruins you also when people do that, I'm like, it's not even enjoyable to drink. I'm like, it tastes good.

[C]

Hunch Punch does taste good.

[A]

Oh, wow. It just gets you.

[C]

It just gets you completely. I mean, the point is, Everclear is so disgusting that you have to, like, add in all that juice and Kool Aid and extra make it so that it doesn't taste bad. So the thing is, like, you think you're Getting as fucked up as a normal cocktail, but because it's 190 proof, it is basically two cocktails. Like, every cocktail is basically two cocktails.

[A]

Gag. What do you think about the sanitization of Prides? Allegedly, this new reckoning goes with gen zers in New York City. Pride. You see guys in leather, guys in harnesses. You see women there with. Well, New York is also. You can, you can be topless. And, you know, Pride is just to celebrate all the. The entire LGBTQIA experience, whether you know, where. Wherever you fall on that.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[A]

And even in Prides in San Francisco and stuff, like, you see, like, they celebrate unity. They celebrate with bodies, obviously not in, like, a sexual way, but, you know, they have kids that probably everyone is invited to Pride, but they're saying that with, like, gen zers and younger generations that they don't want to see all that because. Because it's. It's inappropriate. What do you think about that?

[C]

Well, I think it's appropriate for young people to want to cover up their own bodies now if they're trying to police other people's bodies, I think that is incredibly problematic. And I do not condone, support or lean into that. But I do feel like people wanting to be modest with themselves. That's valid. That makes sense. But also, let the hoes be hoes.

[A]

That's the thing.

[C]

Hoes don't try to stop non hoe people from being hoes.

[A]

Right. It's like, I just want a hoe.

[C]

Exactly like. But sometimes, sometimes non hoes really be out here judging us. But also, as a modestly dressed hoe, I understand I am very modest in my presentation, but I am a ho, so some of us toe the line. So I'll be at Pride wearing shorts and a tank top. I will not be shirtless. My shorts will be above the knee, but not. But my pockets won't be hanging out. And I will probably be wearing shoes that go over my ankles, but, you know, I will.

[A]

Jake was running. I, I, I. By the way, I agree with that as well. I'm like, pride is to, like, that's why Pride was birthed. Because, you know, queer people felt stifled, we felt chilled. We couldn't be ourselves and. And which way. And that means, again, embracing our bodies and doing all that stuff. So in order to, if you want to do prides and, and bar these people, exclude them from celebrating pride how they want to. I feel that is shady and it is problematic.

[C]

Now. Jacob wrote this question. It is very poison. The question says Is it appropriate for old white men to walk around Pride fully naked around children? I would just say people in general, like, I'm not targeting the old white men, but is it appropriate for people to be naked at Pride? I will say this. Do not bring your children to Pride if you do not want them to see something that is at least a little bit, if not grotesquely sexually suggestive. If you don't want to see jockstraps, don't bring your kids to Pride. If you don't want your kids to see drag queens, don't bring your kids to Pride. If you don't want to see titties that are painted like rainbows, do not bring your children to Pride.

[A]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[C]

If you think that that is not what your kids should be seeing. Pride is not the place for your family. Go on the Rosie o' Donnell cruise.

[A]

I remember when she used to advertise on her show. I was like, oh, my God, I want to go on a Rosie Donna cruise. I wanna go. Cause she used to advertise, she's giving away on her talk show all the time. Which makes sense. Yeah, I agree.

[C]

I agree. That is like. No. Yeah, go ahead.

[A]

Yeah, no, I agree. I was, I. And you know, I used to be jealous. That's why I always felt like a reservation about going to Pride because I was like. Or like images of pride. I'm like, I wish I grew up with a family that was acceptable, was, was acceptable of sexuality in that way.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[A]

You know, my family's just a conservative West Indian family, so it's just a different experience. But when I would see like pictures and images of Pride on tv, on the Internet and stuff like that, I was like, that must be so cool to have a family that's so free loving and just so just, you know, I don't know, it was, it was. I was always jealous of not having that experience.

[C]

And I remember being a young person at pride. I mean, I was in high school, I wasn't a child child, but I was 17 years old and seeing like people in like harness and stuff and being like, this is, is cool. Yeah. Like this. Honestly, this really feels cool. I didn't feel scandalized.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

I didn't feel, I didn't feel like that. Like, if, you know, a popular image is like when the leather guys walk.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Some of. There's always one old. It's all. It is, it is all white man wearing boots, a little leather hat, and then like a harness that goes down and Covers the balls and his whole old saggy asses out. And I don't remember feeling like they're like shaking their dicks at me. I was just like, oh my God, this is, and to act like that's not a part of gay culture is, is would be a falsehood for sure.

[A]

I, I agree. You know what I mean?

[C]

What do you think about the corporate like pride being like, like people. Some folks are really pissed off that cried as pride is like corporate. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah, we talked about that a bit before in our, when we talk about virtue signaling. I, I, that's, that's what I don't like if these, I mean obviously during just like during Christmas time and drinks giving, obviously corporations take advantage of that and they cater more to those, those holidays and pride has become a holiday. So I get why companies do that. But if you're a company that is so in that that solely and contributes to the degradation of queer people. And then you want to slap fucking rainbows on your and be like we love is love just to incite people to buy your shit off. You know what I mean?

[C]

What are you saying? Contributes solely? Like who contributes exclusively to the degradation of queer people?

[A]

Chick Fil A.

[C]

Well, I mean chick. Okay, listen, I'm not a fan of chick fil A. I do not think they, they contribute exclusively to the dinner.

[A]

There was a little hyperbole, Bob. You got me. There was a little hyperbole there. Sorry. We never, I, I know we never do this on sipping rivalry. I apologize.

[C]

I don't, I don't.

[A]

You don't participate in hype, in hyperbolic comments on sibling rivalry. Is that what the you saying right now?

[C]

You, you are, you are Ms. Hyper Hyper Bully. That is who you are. Welcome stage hyper bully. You're a hyper bully.

[A]

Oh you, you, I about to get your ass too, cuz you are the hyper bully for sure.

[C]

Yeah, we, I got there before you. I, I beat you.

[A]

Yeah, that's my problem with it.

[C]

I think that, okay, here's the thing about corporations too. Because I realize I'm like first of all, give, give, give people your dollars. Like give these queer people your dollars. Especially queer people of color. Give them your dollars. I also realized too that corporations are not monolithic.

[A]

This is true.

[C]

Even though it seems like Chase is not like it's not one. A lot of sometimes the high, high, high high high ups don't even know that, that who like because there's the charity, like there are entire charity like branches of these organizations figuring out who to get, who to give the money to as well. And you know, these. In my opinion, I don't. I personally don't have a problem with corporations giving money to queer groups and queer places. Oh, yeah, Bars and gay people. I'm like, give us your money. Give us.

[A]

Are they doing, Are they doing that, though? Are they? Yes, yes, we see the rainbows. The rainbows doesn't mean that you're giving to queer folk. It's just if you're, if you're in the parade.

[C]

You pay to be in the parade. If you're in the parade.

[A]

Not just that. I'm talking about like over Instagram and over Twitter. Like when, like, like, let's say, for example, again, I don't know what they do with their life, but let's say, for example, I don't know even if they do this, but if Vans makes their Vans logo rainbow for pride season, they don't have no float. They don't have nothing. They just put it there. You're like, oh, my God, Vance is a rainbow.

[C]

That means.

[A]

That must mean they love queer people. Let me go buy 18 pairs of. You know what I mean? Like, that's what I'm saying.

[C]

Well, I think there's all. I think there's also a part of it that is a signal that maybe you're safe if you go to a van store or like if, if you work at Vans, if you were queer and you worked at that company, it would probably be very nice to see that.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

It would probably be very nice to see that being like, God damn, that felt good. Now I've never seen Chick Fil A at any price. I don't think Chick Fil A runs the risk of being at any pride ever. But that being said, if I worked at Chick Fil A and I, and from experience I was a queer person working at Chick Fil A, it would have been really nice, really nice for someone somewhere in the company to have been like, hey, the Rainbow Biscuit. I would have felt nice as an employee there.

[A]

So Jacob is showing us nine corporations that donated to anti gay politicians. And while being at the Pride parade, ups, Comcast, Pfizer. Bitch, not all y' all walking around with Pfizer in your veins. Now y' all running around with anti

[C]

gay, anti gay vaccines.

[A]

No FedEx.

[C]

What do you have?

[A]

I have Moderna, honey. And Moderna. Dame donates to Duff and Bad Moderna. They're the angels of vaccinations.

[C]

Ever since Dolly Parton got Moderna. You gunner. Folks Be swearing they the best.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you see.

[A]

So that's. That's a prime example. And bitch. And again, I'm guilty of using. Besides Pfizer, of using. I use UPS, I use FedEx. I use all these things that were there. So. And again, I. I don't think there's a way to avoid it in, In. In. In the world, in America. I don't think there's a way. For example, there's this whole thing like back when, back last June, when all the. The Black Lives Matter protests were like, really at peak time. And then they put a list of all these companies that have donated to anti black legislations. Well, not anti black legislations, but legislations that helps degrade black folk that support those things. Like anti prison reform stuff like that. And also anti queer stuff. And one of them was Taco Bell. But then later it came out that the chief CEO is that. But the people, like you said, it's more convoluted than. Than being so black and white.

[C]

Exactly. Because everyone be like, fuck them. It's really not. It's not that simple. Sometimes it is. They donate it to this thing that donates to this thing who gives to this person who has anti gay legislation. So I'm like, if you're gonna. I think that people letting people who work at that company know that there is a glimmer of something that's not anti gay. And also, sometimes I think about these companies when I think about people in my life, like the way we think about loved ones and like, everybody, your family ain't pro gay. You know what I mean? So like, maybe, maybe there's more nuance to it than just being like. And also, here's the thing too, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Just because the other companies who we don't know have donated anti gay does not mean they're super pro queer.

[A]

Yeah. You see what I'm saying?

[C]

Just because someone's not on this list does not mean they're a great company. You know, we don't know. We do not know what they're donating to. We don't know what. We have no clue.

[A]

You know, prime example, what's that company, Bob the Dragon llc? Like, I like, look, they have like some crazy. They have some crazy stuff going on behind the scenes.

[C]

Shut the up, Monet.

[A]

You are so stupid.

[C]

You are a dumb. You're a dumb person is what you are. Wait, are we doing.

[A]

Is there. Is there a Pride quiz mini game? Jacob? That sounds fun.

[C]

All right, everyone, we're gonna do a little queer Pride quiz and see who's gonna.

[A]

Not by aarp. Not this old ass quiz.

[C]

How did you. How do you think you do, Monet?

[A]

I think I'm gonna do fine. I'm. I'm a good test taker. Like in school, as a good test taker, but obviously I would have time to study the materials.

[C]

Okay, so I'm gonna go first. When did demonstrations for gay rights begin in the United States? I mean, this seems like. It's hard to verify, but I feel like one of the first demonstrations regarding queer rights in America was at the Compton Capital Cafeteria riots in. In San Francisco. And I feel like that was 1965 or 55, but I'm gonna say 65.

[A]

I'm going to say 65 as well.

[C]

Okay, we're going one at a time. You can't piggyback.

[A]

No, no, no. We both get to answer.

[C]

Not you piggybacking. All right, 1965.

[A]

No, because. Only because Stonewall was 69. So go ahead.

[C]

Correct. The first picketing for gay rights took place on July 4, 1960, in front of Independence hall in Philadelphia and in D.C. so it was not actually when I thought it was. But also, I'm not sure this. This is a. Kind of a weird question. I also know that there were other demonstrations that happened that may not have actually been called gay rights. So maybe.

[A]

Well, they're calling it gay rights. That's the point. They're saying gay rights. They titling it not. You trying to say the ARP is wrong?

[C]

Well, so there was. There was. There was this one named William Dorsey Swan, who is a famous, who was famously the first drag queen in America, who was a former slave who would also stand up for queer rights as well. But maybe it wasn't called queer gay rights back then. Anyway, what's our next question?

[A]

The Compton Cafeteria. Right. Was in 1966. Just so you were clear.

[C]

And. And just so we're clear, Money's reading that off the same screen I'm looking at. Just so we're all clear.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Let's be crystal. Let's be Dasani.

[A]

Such a child.

[C]

Punani. Dasani.

[A]

I'll read this one. What group staged a 1966 sip in at a New York bar to challenge a ban on serving alcohol to gays? Ooh, I feel like I know this. And I want to say it's D. The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

[C]

It's the Mattachine Society.

[A]

Well, that was their colloquial name. The. It was. Okay, go ahead.

[C]

It was the Mattachine society. Monet. Wow. Are you even queer? Are you even queer, Monet?

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Wow. And it was at Julius Bar, which I believe was the oldest gay bar in New York City until it closed, like, I think three years ago. It was on the Upper west side with that Candle Bar. I can't even remember.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

It was. We didn't even. The question was, what city did Stonewall take place?

[A]

Oh.

[C]

So when was the nation's first gay pride parade? Heaney. So I'm gonna. Well, I know the answer.

[A]

Well, you have to answer first.

[C]

1970. The year after the riots.

[A]

I don't know if that's true, though. I'm gonna say.

[C]

70.

[A]

I mean, I know, obviously, Stone was 69.

[C]

Say you're. Say you're guessing without saying you're guessing.

[A]

No, I'm trying to do deductive reasoning. Stone was 1969. I guess 70 makes the most sense.

[C]

I'm gonna say 7, not you piggybacking ass. Have y' all used it? Every time I go first, Monet just picks my answer. Have y' all noticed this? This. Have y' all noticed this question? Jacob.

[A]

They were the right questions. That's right. Okay, what university opened the first office for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students? That is so easy. That is New York University.

[C]

You are. You. You said it quick, but you're not sure. I. Monet, I know you so well. You are guessing so hard. I know so well. How am I guessing?

[B]

New York?

[C]

University of California? Berkeley?

[A]

Bitch, you wrong, too.

[C]

So just like you.

[A]

University of Michigan. So it happened. It was the called. It was called the Gay Advocate's Office. It opened in 1971. Michigan seems like such a random place. No shade to Michigan Heights, but you know what I mean, that is in the middle of the country. They are crazy as hell over that girl.

[C]

Well, is University of Michigan. Is it in Detroit? Where is it at?

[A]

It's in. Oh, I almost said it's in Michigan.

[C]

Yikes. Ann Arbor. Michigan is. Is. Wait, Ann Arbor, too. No, I'm just kidding. All right. Damn. All right. In what 1983 case did the U.S. supreme Court rule that the Constitution constitutional right to privacy did not extend to same sex relations? Mo do you.

[A]

You go first. I answer the last one first. You have to answer this one first.

[C]

I believe this was Bowers versus You're looking it up.

[A]

You're looking it up.

[C]

I'm not. Bob.

[A]

Why did you. You are you.

[C]

I'm not looking it up, Monet. You. You are so, like, paranoid.

[A]

Cuz you and cuz You. Y' all know, y'. All. The sneaky little boyfriend is back up to some. They. They up to some shenanigans over there over at Bob the Drag Queen.

[C]

You can see Jacob's entire screen. Jacob is sharing his screen with us right now.

[A]

Okay, share your screen.

[C]

Violence is up 400, Not more. The anti Semite. All right, go ahead, pick one, Monet. You're guessing. Just pick one. You're literally guessing. You have no clue. Don't make us sit through you guessing.

[A]

I'm gonna say Bowers versus Hardwick.

[C]

Oh, my God, you're such a fucking annoying little shit. You are so fucking annoying. The only ones you've gotten right have been after I gave you the answer.

[A]

You didn't even know the last one.

[C]

Yeah, the one I got wrong. You didn't know either. Go to the next motherfucking question, Jacob.

[A]

Monet picking this one, whose murder spurred Congress to pass legislation later vetoed by President George A. Bush, that would have protected gays under federal hate crime laws. That is D. Matthew Shepard, Bob. Do you want to take a guess?

[C]

It's Matthew Shepard.

[A]

Okay, so you got it right after me.

[C]

No, it's because I read the Laramie Project in high school.

[A]

Your turn.

[C]

In 2000, this state became the first to legalize civil unions. Do you know it, Monet?

[A]

Yes, I do.

[C]

I honestly, I just don't trust you.

[A]

What do you mean?

[C]

I don't trust you, Bob. Go. Jacob, you're not slick.

[A]

What do you mean I'm not slick?

[C]

Jake, I swear, he's.

[A]

He's influencing something.

[C]

Everybody know it ain't made right.

[A]

Go.

[C]

I don't. It's California.

[A]

Yes, California is. Everyone knows that.

[C]

It's Vermont, you sneaky ass bitch. It's Vermont. See, Monet, you are so. I caught you, bitch. That was so easy. It was easy. See, everybody. Oh, this is how you. This is how I caught you. I caught you. You. You are. You are so ridiculous. You are the most ridiculous person I've ever met in my life.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

In this 2003 case, the Supreme Court ruled that laws vetting sodomy are unconstitutional. That laws banning sodomy. I'm gonna say this sounds some Texas shit. Lawrence versus Texas.

[C]

I feel like it's Lawrence versus Mississippi. I feel like I remember this. We know it was Lawrence.

[A]

Probably about to be Georgia while you wait over the key can. Yes, I told you so, bitch. Who don't know queer history. You.

[C]

I'm still mad at you, trying to trick me into that last answer. So you're now tied. This last one is the tiebreaker. All right, here we go. It's the tiebreaker.

[A]

Mm.

[C]

In 2009, President Barack Obama invited this man who was fired from his government job in the 1950s for being openly gay to the signing ceremony for a presidential order barring discrimination in federal benefits. Okay, I'm gonna be open. This is a complete guess. I have. I have no clue whatsoever. I am being open about that, and I am going to guess. Do any of these names ring a bell? Harold Foster? Frank Kameny, Elliot Sanderson? Morris Williams. I feel like Elliot said no. Morris Williams rings a bell. Me?

[A]

Morris Williams? Are you. It is not. Okay? It's not Morris Williams and not Harold Foster. It is absolutely Elliot Sanderson.

[C]

You just. When I tell. When I tell you. Mon.

[A]

How the camera Bob. My hands are right when I tell you.

[C]

Monet. Google this.

[A]

I didn't Google anything.

[C]

Frank.

[A]

Kevin.

[C]

So we both got it.

[A]

We both got until we could read the answer for the.

[B]

For the.

[A]

For the listeners. Oh, well, the answer. It was. It was Frank. Frank Kameny. Oh, Frank Kameny.

[C]

Frank Kame, a key player in the birth of gay rights movement, died. Damn. Jacob.

[B]

Jacob.

[C]

Do not want this man to get his flowers. Frank Kameny, a play, a key player in the birth of the gay rights movement, died in 2011 at the age of 86.

[A]

Yeah. Jacob. Frank.

[C]

Max.

[A]

Thanks. That was a little pride episode. This was fun.

[C]

That wasn't cute. So we're tied again. Jake not like smart, funny, and black, but, I mean, I'm not even gonna go down.

[A]

I'm not doing this with you.

[C]

You don't have to. You know what? In fact, you all can. Cause it's available on Amanda Seals YouTube page right now. The video's up, Henny. 9,000 people watch me spank Monet's ass.

[A]

Oh, my God. Anyway, I hope you all have a happy pride out there and whatever that. Whatever pride means to you. And also, I want to say this before we go. Some people do this all the time. They would, like, pressure people to come out. Do not come out until you are ready to come out. Don't let people make you feel like you need to do something you're not ready to do. Okay? Coming out can mean a lot of things for different people. It might mean that you may be homeless, maybe your family may reject you. There are many layers to coming out. So don't feel the need to come out because it's this hip thing to do. You come out when you are going and ready to. Girl, don't let anybody tell you what you have to do with your own life.

[C]

Hear, hear. All right. Bye, everyone. By.

[A]

The way.