The One About Proposals

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Proposals"

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Release Date: October 13, 2025

Episode Overview

In this lively and heartfelt episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change celebrate a series of milestones: a brand new podcast set, Bob's impending Broadway debut, and most notably, Monét's recent engagement. The duo dives deep into the personal and social complexities of proposals, interracial relationships in the public eye, wedding plans (including special guest lists and ring bearers), hopes for Dreamgirls’ Broadway return, living in America versus abroad, and the importance of community during uncertain times—all wrapped in their signature infectious humor and banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Leveling Up: New Soundstage & Season 5

• The episode kicks off with the hosts marveling at their new podcast set, crediting the production team for making it possible.
• They excitedly declare the start of "season five" of Sibling Rivalry with fresh branding and a sense of renewal.
  • Monét: "I am so impressed by the team who put this together... this has really elevated us and our brand of our pod." (04:00)
  • Bob: "This is the renaissance of Sibling Rivalry." (11:02)

2. Monét’s Engagement: Joy, Hesitation, and Parasocial Pressures

• Monét shares the exciting news of her engagement to Andy after four years together, admitting initial hesitation about discussing it publicly due to past negative reactions concerning her interracial relationship.
  • Monét: "If I'm being very honest and very vulnerable about it, I had a little hesitation…because you and I have white partners. The White King, they really make it so uncomfortable and so annoying and so awkward." (05:33)
  • Bob: "Someone said 'Bob, we got two white partners.' I said, one, that's not true, and two, why am I in it?" (06:42)
• Monét expresses appreciation for the overwhelming support but notes the persistence of racist and critical commentary.

3. Behind the Engagement: The Proposal and the Ring

• Details about the proposal, Andy's nerves, and the process of choosing and fitting the ring are recounted with humor.
  • Bob (admiring the ring): "Can I see the ring? …Oh, and it's on there—You won't let me take it off." (07:44)
  • The hosts jokingly avoid discussing the cost of the ring.
• Amusing anecdotes about friends' gifts post-engagement and the social dynamics of their circle, especially Bob's "polycule" (multi-partner relationship).

4. Wedding Hopes: Planning (and Guest List Drama)

• Monét discusses wanting a small(er) wedding, but acknowledges it may balloon to over 100 guests due to their communities.
• Bob quizzes Monét about whom she’ll invite.
  • Monét: "Anytime Michelle sees or anything positive or just see, she always sends like, you guys look so happy. I'm so happy for you…she’s always been so supportive." (22:38)
• Conversation about whether dogs (like Potato, Monét’s notorious pet) can attend. Monét considers making Potato the ring bearer, then quickly reconsiders.
  • Monét: "I don't want Potato be the ring bearer." (25:48)
  • Bob: "You think we can get Potato to walk down the aisle? …No." (25:53)

5. Who Should Officiate? RuPaul?

• Monét dreams big: "I mean, I'm gonna reach out to Ru [Paul]..." (21:17)
• The hosts fantasize about RuPaul helicoptering in, officiating in five minutes, and leaving.
  • Bob: "Or she can DJ!" (21:42)

6. Dreamgirls Conversation: Broadway Buzz

• Both hosts express excitement for the Dreamgirls Broadway revival and discuss which luminaries ought to attend the opening night.
  • Bob: "It would be an honor. An honor." (13:01)
  • Monét: "Viola Davis. Jennifer Holiday. Sheryl Lee Ralph..." (14:44)
• Bob notes her own upcoming Broadway role and her "right" to be at opening night.

7. Black Musicals: Authorship and Legacy

• Discussion analyzing which iconic Black musicals were actually written by Black people.
  • Bob: "Were any black musicals written by black people? I think Color Purple was." (16:08)
  • The two examine the complex history of Black representation in musical theater.

8. Eloping, Destinations, and Living Abroad

• Monét states she doesn't want to elope but wants an engagement long enough for Andy to finish grad school.
  • They entertain thoughts of a destination wedding in Iceland, touting its safety and growing Black expat community.
    • Monét: "There's a list...the safest places in the world. And Iceland is number one… I can see why Black people want to move there." (36:44, 42:22)
• Lighthearted debate about the pronunciation of "Bjork" and the challenges of relocating out of the U.S.

9. America in Crisis: Despair and Hope

• Candid exchange about feelings of hopelessness given global and national crises (e.g., Palestine/Israel conflict, political climate, vaccine rollbacks).
  • Bob: "It's crazy that we're no longer shook, shattered, or shorn..." (45:23)
  • Monét: "It does feel like oftentimes...this country is a hopeless thing." (43:55)

10. Closing with Banter: Apologies, Childhood & Rapid-Fire Questions

• The hosts engage in friendly one-upmanship about apologies and memory.
• They quiz each other in a rapid-fire challenge about personal facts.
• Bob narrates a story about ending a childhood friendship over religious differences.
• Monét realizes there’s a role she could play in Jesus Christ Superstar.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Engagement Anxiety and Social Media

• Monét X Change (05:33):
  "If I'm being very honest and very vulnerable about it, I had a little hesitation to talk about it because of how the fans...because you and I have white partners. The White King, they really make it so uncomfortable and so annoying and so awkward."

On RuPaul Officiating the Wedding

• Monét X Change (21:23):
  "Hey, RuPaul, my love, you know, I love you so much...and it would be an honor, a privilege and a pleasure if you officiated my wedding to my soon to be husband."
• Bob the Drag Queen (21:42):
  "Or she can DJ!"

On Dreamgirls' Broadway Return

• Bob the Drag Queen (13:01):
  "It would be an honor. An honor."
• Monét X Change (14:44):
  "Viola Davis. Jennifer Holiday. Sheryl Lee Ralph."
• Bob the Drag Queen (14:57):
  "Colman Domingo will be there. Oprah will be there..."

On Iceland and Moving Abroad

• Monét X Change (36:44):
  "There's a list...the safest places in the world. And Iceland is number one. After going to Isom [Iceland], I can see why. Again, not saying I'm sure..."

On America Feeling Hopeless

• Monét X Change (43:55):
  "It does feel like oftentimes...this country is a hopeless thing and...this thing a little bit. This country is. It feels a little hopeless to be here sometimes."

On Open-Mindedness and Humor

• Bob the Drag Queen (45:23):
  "It's crazy that we're no longer shook, shattered, or shorn..."
• Monét X Change (53:40):
  "Maybe I don't like it because it's cold."

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Key Timestamps

• 01:25 – Show intro; welcoming listeners to the new season, new set
• 05:09 – Monét discusses her engagement and public reaction
• 13:01 – Bob and Monét campaign for Dreamgirls' opening night
• 21:17 – Monét dreams of RuPaul officiating her wedding
• 22:23 – Monét debates guest list size and dog participants
• 36:44 / 42:22 – Longing for Iceland, talk about Black expats and safety
• 43:55 / 44:22 – Vulnerable reflections on America and global crises
• 53:40 – Highly quotable: "Maybe I don't like it because it's cold."
• 56:15 – Bouncing jokes about stuttering, colorblindness, and apologies
• 58:00 – Rapid-fire personal questions between Bob and Monét
• 59:49 – Bob tells a story about religion ending a childhood friendship

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Tone & Style

Bob and Monét balance honesty about difficult topics with playful, irreverent humor. The episode oscillates between heartfelt vulnerability (especially around their relationships and social realities) and laugh-out-loud banter, never staying serious for long. Their friendship and chemistry are the heart of the podcast, filling even heavy discussions with warmth and wit.

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Conclusion

"The One About Proposals" weaves together precious personal milestones, cultural commentary, and the reliably uproarious dynamic between two of drag’s sharpest minds. It’s a celebration of queer love, chosen family, resilience, and the simple pleasures of sharing life's big (and little) moments with someone who gets you—even if sometimes their dog tries to eat a toddler or their fans can’t keep your business to themselves.

Transcript

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My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

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And I'm Monet X James.

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And this is Sibling rivalry.

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On this week's episode, we celebrate Bob's Broadway debut.

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We talk about proposals.

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And we find out what made Bob say this.

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It would be an honor. And we found out what made Monet say this.

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Maybe I don't like it. Cause it's cold. Hold the motherfucking presses. Hold the motherfucking presses.

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Hold the presses. Hold the panini presses. Hold the hair presses. Hold the presses.

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Sibling rivalry has officially leveled the fuck up. Cause we are in our new soundstage.

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Do you want to shit on any specific, specific podcast while we're here? You want to look right into the camera and talk about. Or have you and Violet done y' all's episode yet?

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We haven't. Hi. Who's scheduling it? I thought Jacob was scheduling it.

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I've scheduled me and I reached out to Kennedy and had them schedule the. They're doing the next episode, so they.

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Should be scheduling it. And am I doing it here?

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You're on theirs.

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I'm doing it at no Gorge.

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Yeah, got it.

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Okay. Yeah.

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So I don't know, y' all have probably seen it already, but me and Gottmik did an episode of no Rivalry.

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Yeah. No rivalry. And y' all do it here.

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And y' all are doing. Yes, gorge.

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You did it here.

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Yeah, got it.

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Yes, gorge.

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So you're on. Yes, gorge. I was on. No rivalry.

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No, but then what's the. Yes, it should be. It should be.

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It's no sibling gorge and no rival.

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There it is. Sibling gorge. Or we should do sibling gorgery.

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Or should it be no gorgery?

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I don't know. No, it should be civil and gorgery. No rivalry.

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No rivalry. Yeah.

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Yeah. Sibling gorgery is kind of a sick thing.

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It was fun. It was fun with Mick, but I can't wait for you to watch the episode.

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Yeah, I can't wait to see it. I mean, Mick is always a good time. I love hanging out with Gottmik. She's very funny and she's really dope. But enough about that fucking bitch.

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Do you wanna talk about. Do you wanna tell anything to bald and beautiful? This is about us.

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This is not about the other podcast.

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You wanna say anything to hall and Claw. This is about our podcast. You wanna see the exchange rate?

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This is. I am so impressed by the team who got this. Who put this together? Samuel Minor, who created this. He worked with Kennedy and Patrick and Jay to get all our things aligned, our ducks in order. And I am so impressed.

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I love ducks.

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You do love ducks. And I think this is so beautiful. This has really elevated us and our brand of our pod, and I'm very happy to go on this branding journey with you.

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I'm happy, too. It was a long road.

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Oh, it was. It was.

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It was. Ow. It was a long road to get her. Also, we were sitting down and Monet beat me up today. Y', all, like, hit me so hard on my leg.

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Okay, it was.

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How you gonna tell me it was? It was that. It wasn't that hard. How you gonna tell me? That's crazy?

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I mean, I am working out. I'm working out with a new trainer, so sometimes I don't know my own new strength. I'm very strong now.

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Is it? So you just hitting people?

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You know things.

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You just hit people.

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You got something to Bob, I spent three years of this podcast with you.

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Constantly chopping, poking, grabbing this, this.

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Oh, you think it was that soft?

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Yes, it was. Not like how softly I touched Taylor's shoulder when we were racing. So you were gonna tell me why you hemmed me up the other day in the dressing room?

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I did not hemmed you up.

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My feet were off the ground. She's her own strength. I was terrified for My life, actually. You think I have Terry Crews and you wanted to tell me something. But now we're. Go ahead. I will let you leave. This is your journey.

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Well, everyone watching this knows that I got engaged. Andy and I got engaged after being together for four years. And when, like, the next day, Bala and I did a shoot together, I was like, oh, by the way, I don't wanna, like, talk about. Engage yourself on the podcast. You're like, okay, cool. And then. But Jacob has it on the docket today to discuss. I'm like, I'm okay to talk about it. I think if I'm being very honest and very vulnerable.

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You're on popgrave.

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I know. If I'm being very honest and very vulnerable about it. I had, like, a little hesitation to talk about it because of how the fans. Because you and I have white partners. The White King, they really make it so uncomfortable and so annoying and so awkward. And I just, like, didn't want to muddy up my very exciting and happy news with my friends and family and people who do, and people who know me parasocially, who love. Who are very excited about the news to have an influx of people being like. Because there was that. Cause a lot of magazines picked it up. Even E. News and a lot of maga. Can you stop?

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I'm sorry. You are maga. Wow, that's crazy.

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Picked it up. And, like, of course, the overwhelming majority is like, oh, my God. Congratulations. That's so beautiful. That's so lovely. But there are, in my opinion, because it's me looking at it, a lot of people also being like, of course we knew it. Her.

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Why?

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Why is it that every time a black queen is successful or black slavery successful, they have to find a white partner? Obviously, she hates herself. Her and Bob. There they go again. Because they always rope you into it.

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Someone said, bob, we got two white partners. I said, one, that's not true, and two, why am I in it?

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I know.

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I said why? I said I was over here, like, minding my business. I gave a little congratulations and a repost.

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I know.

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Congratulations to you.

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Thank you.

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And it was a really beautiful announcement.

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Thank you. He was saying. He was saying, like, leading up to. He was like. He was like, literally none of your friends, none of your family, no one was reassuring to me. He was like. He's like. I thought. He's like, I really thought that it might be a no. Because he's like. I asked everyone. He said, I asked Bob. And he was like, well.

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Well, why would he ask? I wasn't sure. In my defense, I wasn't sure.

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Okay, Cardi. In my defense.

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But I didn't say Monet's gonna say no. I said, I don't really know, to be honest.

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He said he asked my aunt. She's like, well, it's like, Kevin's gonna do what Kevin wants to do.

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Well, it sounds like we all know you really well, Exactly.

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I said what you. I said, it sounds like everyone knows me very well.

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But no one said you were gonna say no. We were just like, we don't know.

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Right.

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Can I see the ring?

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Mm.

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Oh.

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Oh, we're good. We're changing that.

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Oh, and it's on there. You won't let me take it off.

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It is a skullchool patty telling the wrong number.

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Or maybe your knuckles grew when you were working out eating your little protein chicken tenders.

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So I had to take it to the jeweler to get it, like a quarter of an inch bigger.

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How much was it?

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I'm not telling the numbers, but I was like, good job, cuz. It's so shady.

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When we got home after.

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After all was said and done, the thing happened. We had d. Okay, well, I was.

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Like, don't bleep it, just say it.

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No, I'm not telling anyone.

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You're not going to tell me how much your ring.

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Ask Andy.

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You wouldn't tell me how much your ring cost.

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No, ask Andy. It's his business.

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It's. It's on your finger, but it's his business. No, it's yalls business. Mon today said, girl, today, Taylor. Today, Taylor gave Monet this little gift. And Mon, Taylor said, I got you. I was in Venice or somewhere in Italy, and I got you a gift. And when they said, you got us a gift? Is this an engagement gift? And he was like, no, it's just a gift. I said, oh, we okay.

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Context matters, bitch.

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Did you go to friends?

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We contrast. We.

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We, bitch.

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Context matters. I got engaged very recently. It's my first time seeing Taylor since. And Taylor literally first hugged me and said, omo, congratulations. We hung. And he was like, I got you something. So I was like, oh, is it, like a thing for me and Andy Wee also. You have something. You literally. You literally travel as a voting block with your polycule. You have literally.

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We establish power, y'. All.

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Y' all travel as one single unit.

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And we eat y' all up, too.

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So, y', all, you are the wee queen of America with you and your three follicles.

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Let me tell you right now, when the firm rolls Up. We wreak havoc, honey. On game night. Ain't no voting us out, honey.

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Well, I think in your polycule. In your polycule. Mikey is the. Mikey will descend.

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Yeah, he did. He turned on us.

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I love it.

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Mikey turned on me at the last.

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Mikey will descend.

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But y' all bullied him.

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We don't bully Mikey. Mikey's a very smart, intelligent.

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You can bully smart people. You can bully intelligent people. You can bully funny people.

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A very strong willed person.

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Mikey, you're all those things, and I bully you all the time. Now what?

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You don't believe me?

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Oh, so I'm not the bully. So I'm not Bob the bully.

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Not to me.

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So which one is it? Am I Bob to bully him or not? You said I bully you, so what is it? Did I bully you? Did I never bully you?

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I mean, you haven't done it recently.

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To quote, as we say in season one. She's backtracking, your honor.

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Season one. Is that from season one of Drag.

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Race of us, Monet. We're still in season four, by the way. Season one, two, and three were in chunks. And then we are still, I think, over 100 episodes later, we are in. I don't even know what episode we are.

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About 200 episodes. But I think. Should this be season five?

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This is season. Oh, my God. This is the first episode of season five.

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How exciting is that?

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We need a big moment. Yeah, we need a big moment. You know what I mean?

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I think season four is sudden. When we changed the thing to the graphic, our places split up. So now this new set, we did that photo shoot. That is. We look stunning.

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We do.

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We look incredible. We do. And I think this is the new. This is the. This is the renaissance of the civic rivalry.

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What's Beyonce's next rock and roll album gonna be called?

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Do you think it's rock and roll? Why does everyone think it's rock and roll?

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Well, it's just. What else? What else?

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It could be gospel.

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It won't.

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It could be R and B, like 90s R&B.

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It won't.

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It could be disco.

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It won't.

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Because I guess renaissance is good. Well, let's go ahead with Morehouse. I mean, if Beyonce did a whole disco era, like, think like Donna Summer, Australian bitch. Kylie Minogue, disco album. Bianca. Beyonce went. I would think of all the big hair and like, oh, I think it would be. I would love that.

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Well, I feel like she did disco era in Dreamgirls. That was.

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That wasn't disco. That was 60s.

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There was. It was through the 70s. And when they did One Night Only, she was in a disco.

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That's the only. One Night Only is like the only chunk of the movie that 70s.

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Yeah, but she did a little chunk of it.

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Did you hear the news?

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And it was 80s, too, by the way. It went to the 80s as well.

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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it didn't really stay in disco. I think it's like a whole.

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So it was in the 60s.

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It started. 60s.

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It was starting in the 60s. Yeah.

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Did you hear the news?

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Starting in the 50s, actually. What news? I think it is starting in the 50s, I think the news.

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What news?

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The bitch. I listen to the news every day. Which one?

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Broadway. A show that's coming back to.

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Oh, Dreamgirl, bitch. The news, bitch. I'm going to fucking Broadway.

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Oh, yeah, we're gonna talk about Broadway as well.

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Dream Girls going abroad.

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That's very exciting.

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And I'll be there. Oh, I'll be there. We'll be there.

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I'm saying it right now. Whoever's producing it, we need to be the opening night, please. Bob and the Dragonite would like to be the opening man.

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I think it nicer. Nicer from the beginning. Because it started off. Whoever.

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Yeah. So, guys, I don't know. I'm sure we can look it up. Who is producing the new Dreamgirls?

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Well, why don't you just move your mouth and then down the line, we'll edit that person's name in as a clip.

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Okay, so this goes out to.

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Yep.

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Bob the Dragon. And I would love to be at the opening night of Dream Girls.

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It would be an honor. An honor.

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A privilege.

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And also, I'll work the door, bitch. I'll do concessions. So I'm so excited for Sonya Friedman.

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Productions with Sue Wagner, John Johnson.

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Oh, Lachanze.

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Ugh.

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Lachanze.

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Lachanze, like the singer Lachanze.

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I know Lachanze. No, Lachanze. Yeah, the Broadway actor.

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Yeah, the Broadway actress.

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I know Lachanze works well.

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Lachanze.

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Lachanze, you know, your besties.

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I don't know Lachanze, but I will one time give me a coattail.

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Lachanze. Well, one time I met Lachanze because a friend of mine who was in Angels in America, her husband was in the Donna Summer musical. Oh, work. And then I went backstage to meet.

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Lachanze, which was Lashan's Beyond.

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Lashanze Beyond. And then Lachanze's daughter was in the original Broadway cast of Jagged Little Pill.

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Which is the same.

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And then I sent. And I found out that Lashanza's daughter was a fan of mine, so I sent her a gift on her opening night, even though I couldn't make it. It was like a sign picture and like, some flowers.

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Oh, that's very cute.

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But I couldn't make it that night because I was traveling.

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Okay. Well, she may. They may be upset about you for that, so we had to.

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It's possible, but I'm willing to do what it takes.

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I would love to be there. I would love to be there.

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And sue girl, first of all, Sonya. I mean, Sonya and Sue and I think Jonathan, John.

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John Johnson, Sonya, Sonia, probably. But first of all, could you imagine the legendariness of black Hollywood that's going.

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To be, well, New York, more or less.

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No, I think people are going to travel for Dreamgirls, a musical.

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But I think they should prioritize the Broadway people, though.

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Oh, for sure.

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Broadway people prioritize who should be there.

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Okay. Viola Davis. Jennifer Holiday. Sheryl Lee Ralph.

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Jennifer Hudson, Loretta Devine.

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Loretta Devine. Who played the original Curtis? I don't know.

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I don't know either.

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Who played the original.

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Colman Domingo will be there.

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Colman Domingo will be there. Oprah will be there.

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I don't think Oprah has any dream girl ties, but.

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Not dream girl ties, but, like, just because it's a legendary show, I don't.

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Think Oprah's gonna be there.

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I think. You don't think Oprah will be at the opening of one of the big.

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One of the big.

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Like, what are the big three black musicals? Dream Girls.

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Dream Girls. Color Purple. Color Purple. Porgy and Bess.

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Porgy and Bess. Those are the big three. Would you agree?

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Well, she wasn't. The once in island is a big one. You know, none of those are written. Well, I think Parking Bess might be written by black people. Maybe.

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No, Girl.

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Ira Gershwin and Dream Girl is written by Jewish people.

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Two Jewish people.

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And Once this island's written by. Not Kander and Ebb. Once. No, no, no. Once on this island is written by. They wrote. They wrote the musical. They wrote Rocky, Dr. Seuss. Their names are. It slips me.

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I don't know why.

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No, no. What is. I can't remember. Aarons and Flaherty. Yes. Aarons and Flaherty wrote Once this Island.

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Aaron and Flaherty.

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Yeah. Two different people. Aaron's and Flaherty.

[A]

Aarons and Flaherty. Got it.

[B]

Yeah. They wrote Once this Island. Were any black musicals written by black people? I think Color Purple was Color Purple.

[A]

Was probably. Yeah. Was it?

[B]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

[A]

Like, did the. Well, the book is Alice walker.

[B]

I'm almost 100% positive.

[A]

Several questions.

[B]

When you say the book, I'm on like 90% positive.

[A]

So when you say musical, when you say the book, that would be Alice Walker or someone have to take Alice's story and make adaptive for musical and then that becomes the book.

[B]

Well, there's a few things. There is the book is by Alice Walker. Is a word. Oh, there's a white woman, Marsha Norman. But then there's a black woman. Then there's a blank profile. Okay. The book, there's an actual book, like the book you buy.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But then also there's the book which is like just the words from the play that's called the book. And then the score and then it's the play.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. So when. So for the Color Purple, who is.

[B]

This Marsha Norman woman? She wrote the book for the Color Purple. She wrote the book? Yes, ma'.

[A]

Am.

[B]

Wow. And the black lady, what did she write?

[A]

The music.

[B]

She was one of the three people.

[A]

Who wrote the music. Brenda Russell. Give it up for Brenda Russell.

[B]

Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I would obviously love to be there. I'm excited because I will have finished my Broadway run.

[A]

Congratulations, by the way.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

She is. She is. What, you're a Broadway star now?

[B]

Well, I mean, I haven't gone yet, but yes, I will have been a Broadway actor by the time that Dreamgirls makes it. So I'll be like, I deserve to be. I deserve a seat. If you go. If you all think Sue, Sonya, Sonia.

[A]

Can you getting the name. I think getting the name is right. Sonya.

[B]

You don't know that I'm saying.

[A]

But I know what it's not. It's not Sue.

[B]

Well, no, there is a Sue.

[A]

Oh, it's a Sue.

[B]

There's a Sue. And a Supreme Sonya. Or a Sonya. Or a Sonja.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

But so I don't know which one it is, but I just know. What I do know is that I'm a big fan of all your work that you produce.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To be honest, so it'd be a treat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Truly a treat.

[A]

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Okay.

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[B]

It was very vulnerable of you to open up about your fears concerning your engagement announcement. Oh yeah, for sure. Which is valid by the way.

[A]

Oh yeah. You know, for sure.

[B]

And they came.

[A]

They did. Exactly why I didn't want it to happen. So I'm like now it's already out there and it's already being a thing.

[B]

I'm like, well you posted it.

[A]

I know, but people. Because that's. Cause people already texted me and there was before I posted it, there was a game, G A Y E magazine. They had posted a thing that we heard Monet X Change got married or something like that or someone mentioned me in dm. So I feel like it would have got out eventually. People would have seen with the ring on.

[B]

Are you gonna get eloped?

[A]

No, I don't believe. I don't want to get it eloped. It will be a long engagement though, because Andy's in. He just started grad school.

[B]

Getting eloped would be fun though.

[A]

Let's just go to Vegas and just get married.

[B]

It doesn't have to be Vegas or anywhere. Yeah. I think I feel like the term elope is specifically when you, like a un. A very shortly planned, very small announcement marriage. Right.

[A]

I thought when you just go and just get married and don't tell anyone. Oh, you don't. You let you live into. People know.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I just said. Like, little planning and you and the very small people know. Very few people know.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

But like. Yeah. Eloping. Would you. Have you ever officiated?

[A]

No, I never officiate a wedding.

[B]

Who's gonna officiate? I don't know.

[A]

I mean, I'm gonna reach out to Rue.

[B]

You think she'll do it?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

You wanna.

[A]

Hey, RuPaul, my love, you know, I love you so much. My honor, love, Joy. It runs deep for you, and it will be an honor, a privilege and a pleasure if you officiated my wedding to my soon to be husband.

[B]

Or she can DJ or dj who's invited, I think.

[A]

But officiating is such a lower lift. She can be in and out. Honestly, Ru, you don't have to stay for anything. Literally.

[B]

The car lands.

[A]

We will tie the way.

[B]

Car. Helicopter.

[A]

The helicopter lands.

[B]

Chopper.

[A]

You crawl that little ladder. You walk down the aisle, say the three little.

[B]

Dance.

[A]

Say the lines. We'll get you right back in the chopper, and you can leave. You can be there for all of five minutes.

[B]

Who's invited?

[A]

That's the thing we're talking about. It's gonna be a big. I don't want. I don't know. The more I think about it, it's gonna be minimally 100 people, which is not a small wedding. And I want a small wedding.

[B]

Can I name some people and you just tell me if they're invited or not?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Peppermint.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Asad.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Michelle Visage.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

She's invited.

[A]

Yeah. I love Michelle. Michelle always. Anytime Michelle sees or anything positive or just see, she always sends like, you guys look so happy. I'm so happy for you. Like, for years now, she's always been so supportive.

[B]

Robin.

[A]

Robin.

[B]

Right, Robin. Rihanna. Fenty.

[A]

Of course. VIP seating.

[B]

What if she. What if you get to the wedding and Rihanna and they say, if anyone has a reason why these two shouldn't be married and Rihanna stands up, I will say yes.

[A]

I agree. And I would leave. I also thought about what if. What if.

[B]

Where'd you go? If you can't name five of my song, Andy, you Can't get married.

[A]

This accent, we have to.

[B]

It's spot on.

[A]

You're such a talented actress, Selena. Sorry. You're such a talented actor. You could do a better Caribbean accent. Why does it always sound like Ms. Cleo?

[B]

Me. Nailed it.

[A]

Call me now for your free tarot reading. There is no substitute.

[B]

Is Selena invited?

[A]

Of course. Selena. Literally. She was at the engagement.

[B]

Can Potato be there?

[A]

No.

[B]

No.

[A]

I'm kidding, actually. So I would literally talk to any. The ring bear about it this morning. I'm really turning to have a potato because as Potatoes got you turning what? I've turned the tide with Potato. Got it. Because as Potato's gotten older, Potato has. His behavior has gotten so much better.

[B]

Your dogs calm down when they get a little bit older. Yeah.

[A]

Like, he has had no accidents in the house for at least a year and a half. And that was, I think, the major reason why I fucking hated him when I first met Potato because he was ruining my home.

[B]

He did try to eat a small child recently.

[A]

A small child. He did not try to eat a small child.

[B]

He lunged to attack a small child.

[A]

I will say two things. One, it's a kid, right? So I get, like. They don't know to, like, you know, to ask the owner if they can pet. Like, kids are just gonna do that. But I think that you should not pet people's dogs.

[B]

I don't think they were petting. I think the door opened and Potato went bananas.

[A]

I don't know if she. And, like, went to the noodle.

[B]

Potato was like. Potato was like, kill.

[A]

So Potato doesn't, like, seek and destroy. So Potato doesn't like older people, and he doesn't like children. I don't know why that is. Again, I've only known Potato for three years, four years. But Potato doesn't like small people. Like, he doesn't like children and he doesn't like old people. I don't know why that is. Who's old that he's barked at Andy's aunt.

[B]

How was he with your grandmother?

[A]

She was fine. But my grandmother also didn't try to pet him or handle him. He. He snapped at Andy's aunt because he was in Andy's lap, and she bent over and was like, hi, little doggies.

[B]

But he's doing better now.

[A]

He's doing much better. Potatoes.

[B]

Can Cody come?

[A]

No. Potato's the only dog that will be allowed.

[B]

Cody is a lovely dog.

[A]

That doesn't say he's not a lovely dog. He doesn't invite my wedding, though.

[B]

Is this a dog rule or is this a Cody rule?

[A]

This is a dog rule.

[B]

Because it doesn't seem to be a dog rule. Because there's a dog there.

[A]

Well, because it's literally Andy's child, so he's.

[B]

So there's a dog exception for to.

[A]

The dog rule because he is our dog. So he has to be there for Andy.

[B]

Will Colleen be there?

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah. I can't imagine she'd be there.

[A]

No.

[B]

She wouldn't be paying attention. She'd be hiding under something. She'd be screaming, literally.

[A]

Colleen, it's so vocal.

[B]

You should make Potato the ring bearer.

[A]

No.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Because that's a role that I want for a person. I don't want Potato be the ring bearer.

[B]

Well, who's gonna be ring bearer?

[A]

First of all, you think we can get Potato to walk down the aisle?

[B]

No. No.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

But if you put a few treats on the way, he won't. Does he like treats?

[A]

He does like treats. Potato is greedy.

[B]

I've never seen him be greedy.

[A]

Oh, he is greedy.

[B]

He's a sweet dog. I like Potato a lot.

[A]

Anytime I like pillow treetops to feed Colleen, I can't even do that. Cause I throw one out for him. Throw out for her. He'll eat his, and by the time he'll come and eat Colleen's too. Cause cats don't. They're not really quick.

[B]

Well, I like the potato. Likes to cuddle with me. That's what I like about Katie.

[A]

He's a very cuddly dog. Cause Potato's a pandemic dog. So he's very like. He wants to be squished and hugged and with the person all the time.

[B]

But I don't know what age I'm gonna hit when he starts to attack.

[A]

I think you're almost there.

[B]

If. What's the name?

[A]

Come over.

[B]

I know I'm good. Who. We'll leave it at that.

[A]

BTDQ from season eight.

[B]

We'll leave it at that.

[A]

What song did you put that in? BTDQ from season eight.

[B]

That was on my. I did a super Queen.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

BTDQ from season eight. I'd have been around those hoes how to dominate. And I said a purse first in the game with a stamp from Rewind. I've been around the world.

[A]

Who the fuck is you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, you said, who the fuck is you?

[B]

Yeah, who the fuck is you? Honestly, I ate with that one.

[A]

That was a good line. That was a good line. You haven't done one in a while. Why do you think that is a song? Yeah.

[B]

I just released a song.

[A]

No, like a diss track. Like, or taking.

[B]

It wasn't a diss track. That was just like a.

[A]

Or taking a song for one of the finale. Like, you didn't do it this year. You didn't do it last year. Oh, well, the finale song, Adding youg Own Verse.

[B]

Well, last time I did a diss track was with Maddie. Or am I mad? Yeah, mad with the last diss track I did. So that was like, less than a year ago. Maybe a little more than a year ago. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna do one with. With what's her name? Eagle Girl. She was the eagle. Malaysia Baby doll Fox.

[A]

Oh, she's an eagle.

[B]

Because she was the eagle at the. At the reunion or at the step down.

[A]

Is that what she was?

[B]

Yeah, she was an. Oh, she was a bald eagle.

[A]

Oh, she was a turkey.

[B]

She was a bald eagle. But then she released it, and it was the weekend of my mom's funeral, and I was like, I don't have time to respond.

[A]

Thank God you didn't do that.

[B]

You hear when Cardi B said a gun to my head and head, Name five b a songs. Bow I'm dead.

[A]

I could have named one if Bia.

[B]

Was in this room.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know what she looks like. Can you put up a picture of Bia?

[B]

You know, something I really enjoyed doing on the road when I was touring because he has so many national. I would. I would do this thing where I would. I would take world leaders, or it'd be like a picture of Bill Clinton and three guys who just kind of look like Bill Clinton. And I asked the French people, do you know which one of these is Bill Clinton?

[A]

Like, what you go on, like, outside.

[B]

I was backstage.

[A]

Oh, got it.

[B]

So. So it'd be like, all right, this is Justin Trudeau and three cowboys. Because Justin Trudeau don't have cowboys in time. And I'm like, which one of these is Justin Trudeau?

[A]

Is he from Calgary? I don't know where he's from, you know, because Calgary is very, like. It's a part of Canada that's very, like, Texas. Like, they like. It's. It's a lot of. Well, besides, obviously the major city is Calgary. All the surrounding towns are a little red. They love cowboy culture there. Like, it's like a big thing there. Sinatuan's from Canada and from Calgary.

[B]

I wonder where Shania Twain is from.

[A]

The first cut is the deep. Is that her?

[B]

I don't know. That is when I think Shania Twain I think, who's bed have your boobs?

[A]

Bed? No, man. I feel like a woman is what you think about Shania Twain.

[B]

I mean, the first one.

[A]

That is Shania Twain. Oh, Cheryl Crowe.

[B]

Damn, you were so loud. Incredibly, incredibly loud and extremely wrong. I mean, I think who better is better than a man? I feel like a woman and they don't impress me much.

[A]

That don't impress me.

[B]

That don't impress me much. Now, don't get me wrong. Yeah, I think it's all right. But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

She was a school teacher.

[A]

Was she? Apparently Shania Twain was. Shania Twain was a school. Was she like, isn't she a maga?

[B]

A little maga?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

Can Canadians be maga?

[A]

I mean, they can be conservative.

[B]

I know she ain't voting.

[A]

No Shania Twain. No, no. Go.

[B]

Yeah. No, no, no.

[A]

Go back to what you said about with your man. See, this is how Bob and Jacob act. Jacob was googling ish, and I Twitter teacher. And as soon as it said, Jacob was like, switch up the search.

[B]

First of all, we weren't arguing about whether she was kuji. I said, I think she was. I said, I'm pretty sure we weren't even arguing about that.

[A]

I would say we're arguing.

[B]

You love to get a little point because you need them.

[A]

I'm so. I'm so happy to see you.

[B]

Most of my hotels get you together.

[A]

I'm so happy to see you. See you as well.

[B]

Today.

[A]

Not today.

[B]

Today specifically.

[A]

I could qualify on there. Today is crazy.

[B]

Today specifically. Oh, my God. Today specifically. Yes.

[A]

Bob, I can't wait for you to get married.

[B]

If you. I mean, I probably won't, but I maybe will, who knows, one day. Yeah. You called me then and you were like, monet's got marriage fever. She was like, when are you and Jacob getting married? Why not? I was like, girl. Monet was literally. I was driving down the street, I got a call from Monet. She was like, so when are you, Jacob, gonna tie the knot?

[A]

Okay, so I have a question.

[B]

I can't be the only one. I was like, you're not the only one.

[A]

So if you.

[B]

Three of our. Two of our friends have been married.

[A]

Two?

[B]

Mitch and Mateo are married.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And Free. That's crazy. Super secret. He's married. Super secret marriage.

[A]

Wow. The free ratio is crazy, girl.

[B]

No, free. Did you know. And I know you listen, Free, with your little super secret marriage.

[A]

He literally showed us the ring before he did it.

[B]

But the wedding. None of us got invited to the wedding. That is crazy.

[A]

We're not invited to the wedding.

[B]

Are you invited for your wedding?

[A]

Of course I invite him. I mean. But here's the thing. It'll probably be over here on the West Coast. So we have to travel. There's a small part of.

[B]

You're both from the East Coast.

[A]

Yeah, but I would do it over here because the weather. The east coast weather is too. It's not reliable. Here, like, 80% chance. It's gonna be nice weather.

[B]

Yeah. Catch a civilian Robbery. Fam. Reunion. Thunderous rain.

[A]

Yeah. Like, no. There's a small part of me. A little part of me.

[B]

The tiniest part of me. Your butthole.

[A]

I thought about doing it in Iceland, but getting everyone to come to Iceland is insane.

[B]

I'm not going. I'm not going Iceland. I would like for you to do it in California. That'd be really nice.

[A]

But Iceland weddings.

[B]

I would go to New York in the summer.

[A]

They're beautiful. And it looks like.

[B]

But, like, what do you. What do you. You not Icelandic? What? Is Bjork going to be there?

[A]

No. So you. When I went to Iceland, I met.

[B]

And it is pronounced Bjork.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To those of you who are M I D M's.

[A]

Well, that's. Cause they're ignorant. Like, the umlaut over the O is. That is a sound. When you have the O with the two dots, y', all, that's called an umlaut. It's ear. That's the sound that makes. That's the.

[B]

As if I justified. Margaret Cho says she also thought that she. No, she didn't. She also agreed that Bjork looks Asian.

[A]

I saw that on your thing. And I'm like. Well, that's okay for Margaret to say that.

[B]

It's not for you to say that. It's not okay.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

And it's not for you to say that's not okay.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

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[B]

And we're black.

[A]

So do you know about my whole Iceland thing? When I went to Iceland?

[B]

Yeah. You didn't stop talking about it.

[A]

No, I didn't.

[B]

You were obsessed. Maybe not on the pod, but in real life. You were like, you know, there's a whole thing about black people moving to Iceland too.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, okay. So Iceland, you know, so there's a list. Jacob King, looking up the list of the top 10.

[B]

Jesus Christ. When was this? This was. Go to December. What?

[A]

December23.

[B]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[A]

My name.

[B]

My mom was alive when you posted this. Can you stop? What if she just saw this?

[A]

Your mom, Ms. Martha saw me in many a compromising position.

[B]

She seen Naomi Smalls literally completely butt naked, nude, with a greasy dick.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When she did. When we did her show?

[B]

No, when we. When we all went to Atlanta together on the season eight tour.

[A]

Oh, got it.

[B]

Naomi's in the dressing room and she had just untucked and she went and hugged my mom.

[A]

Yeah, I was feeling.

[B]

I was naked. My mom was like, oh.

[A]

Hilarious.

[B]

I think she might have been tucked. It was still tucked up.

[A]

I want to say.

[B]

No, the butt naked greasy dick is a lie. But she was not wearing any clothes except tape.

[A]

Oh my God. That's when I was in my.

[B]

I was in my nail era.

[A]

That's when I was getting my tips done. That was crazy.

[B]

I look crazy. Mona, this is how you look right now. Except you're wearing nails.

[A]

I know the nails.

[B]

That's the thing.

[A]

The nails is like being fully out of drag and having the tip.

[B]

I had a claw era. Yeah, I was. I had a choir.

[A]

I wouldn't go for it.

[B]

There's a whole thing of like white people moving. Would you ever leave the United States?

[A]

You know, the more and more, like things get crazy here, like I do. I think the Jimmy Kimmel thing was a big eye opening thing. And also I think the. Wait, wait, let me talk about Iceland real quick. So there's a list of. Jacob, can you look up? It's like the. It's like the top 10 safest. Like, the safest places in the world. And Iceland is number one. Iceland's the exit. Sorry, not safest. Like countries that don't safe and like, they don't have any beef with anyone. Like, they're. I don't know what the name. What the list.

[B]

Neutral.

[A]

Maybe it wasn't. It was something. But anyway, Isla is at the top of this list. And after going to Isom, I can see why. Again, not saying I'm sure.

[B]

Unless you take a picture of Bjork.

[A]

Oh, she'll beat you up.

[B]

You didn't know about Bjerg beating up a photographer?

[A]

But, I mean, I think that's.

[B]

I thought that was just paparazzi. No Bjork. But Bjork beat up a paparazzo.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Like, beat her up.

[A]

Paparazzi is, like, over there in the uk. I know American paparazzi's in Illinois. You see Justin Bieber on the thing, and he's, like, fighting one. But in the uk, girl, apparently the paparazzi, they are relentless. The paps, they're, like, really abusive to the celebrities there.

[B]

So one time I was walking through the airport in Heathrow and all these. I mean, the paparazzi swarmed, and it was flashing so aggressively. I was like.

[A]

Word.

[B]

And then immediately Bebe Rexha walks past me. I don't know who Bebe Rexa was, but I remember being like, oh, really?

[A]

Oh. Oh.

[B]

They were swarming her like, it was. It was insane. She couldn't even. It was. It was really wild.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I was in Italy and I saw Donatello Versace waiting for an Uber on the street. No, she was up. Up at the top. Just wait. Literally waiting for Uber.

[A]

An Uber by herself?

[B]

Yeah, one bag. One rolling bag by herself.

[A]

Making.

[B]

Checking to see if her Uber was coming by hers alone. That's crazy and completely true. I was like, that's how the relationship is. I remember being like, that looks like Donatella Versace. Cause no one looks like Donatella Versace.

[A]

That's not a research. That's why, like, sometimes, like, you know, when I get to lax, this is like a year and a half ago, maybe. I think I have a tire Patty with me. And so when I get off of lax. When you get off of lax, you can either get curbside service right outside the baggage claim if you call a black car, or you can take the shuttle, go to Ubertown, or walk to Uberville if you walking. Cause Delta is terminal three. Walking to. It is maybe 10 minutes as opposed to waiting for the shuttle bus and going all the way around. So I just. As a. Not as a rule, but 98% of the time, I'm taking bags and just walking to Uberville because a curbside black car service from LAX is literally sometimes triple the price of what it is from getting it at Ubertown. I'm like, so why am I paying $202, where I can get a $75 Uber and just walk in my ass? And also, it's more exercise, I'm telling myself in my mind. And it's like, whatever. So.

[B]

Well, I would say one thing is sometimes when you get the Uber xls from Uberville, they play in your face.

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

They'd be like, oh, this is an xl. This Fiat is an xl.

[A]

Oh, yeah, they do do that sometimes. Or. Well, it's like comfort. Comfort be playing with you. Comfort is supposed to be a little.

[B]

Extra room, and I have so many bags.

[A]

Yeah. So one time a fan told me, waiting at Uberville for a thing, and then Lily tweeted later. Be like, wow, things must be hard. Saw Mornay waiting for an Uber at LAX today. At Uber, I'm like, no, okay.

[B]

I posted a picture from Planet Fitness, and they were like, damn, I do that sometime, too.

[A]

They're like, really? Girl? Planet Fitness? I'm like, what is wrong with y'? All? What do y' all think? Like, that kind of thing.

[B]

Also, if times are hard, what of it?

[A]

Right?

[B]

True. Just to be clear, let's just say I am falling on hard times. Is that a crime?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is it a crime?

[A]

Who sings that?

[B]

Sade?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

I was on the cruise, and they were doing one of the games, the pool games. They were playing couples. What's the Newlywed Game?

[B]

And then. So you're perfect for this game Now I know.

[A]

So they were asking one of the guys. One of the guys laughing, like, what is your partner's. This was. This was the white guy asking about his. They were asking questions about his partner, who was. Who was a black. A black. A black guy. And then they goes, well, who is. Who's your part? Who's your partner's favorite artist? And he goes, I think it's Sadie screaming. And the entire pool was like. Was like. And so I would yell, you mean Sade?

[B]

He's like, yeah, yeah, that one.

[A]

Sade. I was like, sadie is crazy.

[B]

So when you were getting proposed to, they were like, what song should we play? If Monet says yes, who's her. Can you put it down? I'm talking about Colleen. They were like, what. What song should we play? Like, who's Monet's favorite artist? And then we were like, oh, well, it's Sza. But you. But that Sza doesn't make the kind of SZA doesn't make. What are you gonna play? Weeknda has Happy Go Lucky music. I can't name one. So why'd you ask?

[A]

Taylor? Taylor would.

[B]

Well, you listen to Sza. Well, I chose. We found love in a hopeless place.

[A]

That was a good one.

[B]

But you. And also. It's also poignant. And you also. I mean, we also.

[A]

We didn't find love in a hopeless place. We didn't fall in love in a club.

[B]

You live in la. Didn't y' all go to Hot Dog? Didn't you meet on Grindr?

[A]

No, we did not meet on Grindr. We met on Hinge.

[B]

Hopeless. Even more hopeless.

[A]

It's not hopeless. Hinge is a place most of my friends who are. Okay, I'm not gonna say most, but Andy and I have about three or four couple friends that found their partners on Hinge as opposed to other places.

[B]

I found both my partners on Grindr.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. We found love.

[A]

We found out that's the homeless place. Wait, wait, wait.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

We're interested.

[B]

And a lot of people find their loves on Grindr.

[A]

True Survivor fashion. We have safest places. Iceland. Yeah. So Iceland is at the top of the stable. Jesus Christ. I can see why black people want to move there, especially with everything going on in the country, like it feels like and being there. It is a lovely place. So when I went there, December 2023, I met the lovely ladies of Pink Iceland, Birna and her wife. And they are, first of all, the queer community. They've cultivated their little slice of queer community there is so, so, so beautiful, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

They are everything and so sweet and so kind. And I fucking love, love, love these ladies.

[B]

Shout out to Pink Ice.

[A]

Pink Iceland. I know.

[B]

I just wanted to do it.

[A]

And they do. And a lot of people do. Destination weddings.

[B]

Why don't you the black version called Blackpink Ice.

[A]

That would. So I don't have to be. Kimchi has to do that.

[B]

She's not black.

[A]

Blackpink is a Korean K pop group.

[B]

But it has to be so if. If Kimchi has a child with a black woman, that person can do and. And is raised in Iceland. That person can be Blackpink. Guys, this is a long time in the making. And by then they're like, who the is it What's a blackpink? But I do not. I do not want to leave America. And I am annoyed at the thought of having to do sounds really.

[A]

So you don't want to, but you would, is what you're saying.

[B]

Maybe, but I really don't want to. I really would like to stress how much I really don't want to. I don't have anything outside of the US anything. I have a few friends, but like, I have a few Canadian friends, some UK friends, some Australian friends, some South American friends. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But I think.

[B]

And all my African friends live stateside.

[A]

But being 10 months into this year again, which is by design, that's why they keep on flooding the zone and giving us all these things that feel like to make us feel hopeless. It maybe I think it does feel like often, not oftentimes feels like this country is a hopeless thing and. And this thing a little bit. This country is. It feels a little hopeless to be here sometimes.

[B]

But is it?

[A]

I don't know. To be my honest answer today asking this question, I don't know because I feel like. But it's not just this country. When I see the atrocities happening in the Middle east and in the Middle east with Israel and Gaza and how the UN voted again and America said, no, we're not going to help Gaza. Like, we're now the only country siding with Israel.

[B]

Yeah, it's crazy. Like.

[A]

And I keep on and I'm happy because it's raising my awareness of people groups like Zateo and other groups showing the news of Gaza and how these people are living. Because I feel like, you know, naturally I wanted to be like, oh my God, this is too much for me. I can't. I need to find peace. But I'm like, no, I don't wanna know. Not I don't wanna know peace, but I wanna keep on having this in the forefront of my mind. So it doesn't. I mean, I think the risk of that, it normalizes it a little bit. It's not as shocking anymore. Cause you see it so often and I'm seeing it a lot.

[B]

It's crazy that we're no longer shook, shattered or shorn.

[A]

I know with stuff by how gruesome it is.

[B]

Did you also see that vaccine mandates are being rolled back very, very severely?

[A]

I know the thing you said about.

[B]

Tylenol and I'm wondering, like, is Tyler Law gonna fight for their life?

[A]

They can sue him, but they won't sue because they're scared to.

[B]

But why would they be scared? They're they. They're big pharma. Yeah, but don't they have all the money in the world? Doesn't big pharma have all the money?

[A]

But I think with the FDA and all, like, the food, like, I feel like. I feel like they. They're probably because he is appointed. I'm sure he's appointed some fucking A tiktoker to head the fda. So I think they're afraid if they sue him. What?

[B]

What? What?

[A]

He will? How he will. What's the word I'm looking for? Not retaliate.

[B]

Well, there's. So there's this thing where they were talking basically about how Tylenol causes autism.

[A]

Which is not true. There's literally. There's literally. Literally no evidence of that.

[B]

And then they were basically going on about how he's cured autism now. It was madness. There was a. It was a. There was a lot going on.

[A]

Yeah, I. I can't. I can't.

[B]

But I mean, that being said, what.

[A]

He doesn't have is a new civil robbery set, and he could never.

[B]

He probably could. Do you remember a while back. Oh, my God, I can't. You know, I'm gonna misremember it. I know I am. But like, some Florida politician or like, police commissioner or something was trying to build this, like, media complex in Florida or maybe Texas media media complex that does, like, podcasts and, like, conservative podcasts and, like, TV shows and all this. I think he was basically trying to build the new. Another Daily Wire, essentially. But I never heard anything from it again, So I don't. I hate that I even brought it up, but I remember being like. That was like a. And it was like he. It was this, like, man who had all this money, and he built this, like. He bought out, like, basically, like a Walmart base, like a hu. Building, like a huge office building, and turned into this, like, this big media complex. And he also had something to do with pharmaceuticals. I was reading about it. I was listening to it. I listened to npr. I know I said this every day. Every single day. And I listened to this American a lot. No, I listened to this one once a week.

[A]

No, the Daily.

[B]

No, I listened to Uppers.

[A]

Oh, yeah, right.

[B]

And I listen to Consider this every single morning. So are you still, like, a podcast when you, like, out and about?

[A]

Kind of every morning, every day. So the View. I listen to the View. I listen to the Daily. The Story, and I listen to Ponti of America and Nativeland podcast.

[B]

What?

[A]

Oh, my God. With Angela Rai.

[B]

It's called Native Land podcast.

[A]

No, the company's Native Land podcast. I don't know why I'm blanking on name right now every morning. Okay. It is Native Land Pod under iheartradio Nativeland Pod with Angela Rye, Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillum.

[B]

We should invite some of these people to the podcast.

[A]

I love Angela Rye. I love. I mean, I love all of them. They're great. They're really formative. They center their. Obviously they talk about all the big stories, but they also with a lens, because they are three black people. Of how it is affecting the black community and our relation to how this news works with our community.

[B]

If I could do a call to two specific people at NPR who I would love to have on the podcast, I don't think I'd ever get them, but I would love to. One, Ira Glass. I would love to have Ira Glass over here at Sibling Rivalry. And two, Aisha Roscoe. Aisha Roscoe is becoming my. Ayesha Roscoe does a Sunday report every Sunday on this American Live. I mean, on. On up first. On up first she does a Sunday report. And I am like currently obsessed with Aisha Roscoe. I learned so much about oil. What do you call them? Rigs? Okay, so when oil rigs die. So, okay, I learned a lot. So basically like a stripped rig or a strip is basically when that thing that goes like this, they come in all different shapes and sizes.

[A]

Because when I think of. I think about the thing that's.

[B]

They all come in different shapes and sizes. So when you have an orphan well is basically what happens when no one claims this well. Like this well, we have gotten all we can out of this. It is all done. And this well, it ain't. It's not mine.

[A]

It's just a big ass hole in the ground. And they were getting oil from.

[B]

Sometimes it is just a small pole coming out of the ground. Sometimes it is. You can't even see it, but it is slowly emitting gas into the air. It's like it's leaking and it's leaking and polluting the area. There are apparently hundreds of thousands of orphan wells.

[A]

So why don't we. Okay, so here's the question. Why don't we plug it up?

[B]

Because it costs anywhere from 15,000 to $200,000 to plug in oil. Well.

[A]

Okay, well, you. When you extract all that oil, you have gotten.

[B]

But it's not mine.

[A]

Millions of dollars, but it's not mine. See? So why don't we set. Why isn't there a. Like, why isn't there a law that you just cannot leave it unplugged.

[B]

So there are laws, but it's easy to just be like, that ain't my fucking oil well. I don't know what y' all talking about. That's crazy. Especially because people license the land. So, you know, like sometimes you'll license the land and then people are fracking or doing stuff on your land, but then you don't know. No, you know, but it's not yours. It's your land. It's not your well.

[A]

So the law should be like. Because then to force the people who own the land to keep track of it, if it's not plugged up, you have to pay for it.

[B]

So this one lady had a orphaned well in her front yard, and it started leaking. It started ruining her front yard. The well started leaking.

[A]

When you say leaking, like oil's coming up.

[B]

Yes, Coming up. And kind of like going into the. Going into your soil. Ruining your soil and possibly contaminating your drinking water, also making it toxic for your pets and your children and the air. But then she had to pay herself to get the well filled.

[A]

She has to pay herself.

[B]

She had to pay because on her land. But then she got in contact with this company that. That doesn't. There was this company that. There's a company that does those. There's a company that will, like, they, they. They plug up all these wells every year, but they can't do the me. But they're like. They're like allegedly estimated hundreds of thousands of orphan wells. Monet. Hundreds of thousands.

[A]

I mean, that makes sense. So we're watching the video of this woman and how the oil is just like, in her. In her yard. That's crazy. So she bought this home and she didn't know this was there, and now she's living there and it's happening.

[B]

She bought the home, though. But sometimes when you plug them, they come unplugged because sometimes people are not plugging them properly. So technology. They're plugging them years ago. Sometimes they just fill it with sawdust. They fill it with wood. They fill it with so and so. But now they're doing this concrete thing. I know. I don't know if our listeners are even remotely interested in this. They fill in with this concrete stuff. When you fill with concrete, this is better than just putting oil. I mean, putting sawdust or wood down there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then they can become unclogged over time. They can become un unplugged over time.

[A]

I've thought about putting sawdust in my hole.

[B]

Before. And how do they work out for you?

[A]

I thought about it. I didn't do it.

[B]

Where were you at? I wanna hear the full story.

[A]

I was in a basement in a city. I'm not gonna say the city.

[B]

And I'm sorry. Why are you keeping the anonymity of the city? So.

[A]

Because I don't want to spill anyone's tea.

[B]

So you think, how small was this city? How small that it can go back to one person? That's the question. Are you into butt play?

[A]

I don't like things. I don't like things in my ass that are not a warm body part. Not even fingering. I don't like getting fingered like that. I'm like. You just play this girl. Just like I. So here's the dichotomy. There is that you do want to get played with someone, so someone's opening you up. So not just, like, fucking. Just going in. But I don't necessarily find it pleasurable to have someone just back there poke around with a plastic dildo or their fingers. I'm like, just.

[B]

So what about a glass dildo?

[A]

No, I don't want any.

[B]

What about a warm.

[A]

You know, I've never had a glass dildo, actually. What if they warm it up? That might be fun.

[B]

What if they warm it up? That might be. Oh, my God.

[A]

That's not even thought about that.

[B]

La, la, la. Warm it up and then they can put it in your butthole.

[A]

That's such a good idea. Maybe I don't like it because it's cold, but also, I just don't like this feeling of fingers. Like, I don't like that. So I think you know what the answer is. A warm or a glass dildo?

[B]

I mean, if you don't. A glass dildo could be particularly cold.

[A]

I'll say. But can you just. If you just put it in like a hot. Warm. Like glass.

[B]

I would say warm glass.

[A]

Yeah. Not hot.

[B]

I don't think you want something hot on your asshole.

[A]

Well, what's. Well, what conducts heat more, rubber or glass?

[B]

Glass. Conducts heat.

[A]

Yeah, glass.

[B]

Glass better than rubber because the rubber would just melt.

[A]

Right. But what does it faster? Like, if we had.

[B]

I mean, I'm assuming it's glass. Because glass, like, if you warm up rubber, it'll just start melting.

[A]

Glass noodles can be used for temperature play because they are able to be heated and cooled safely while the glass.

[B]

Yeah, you don't want to warm up rubber and put it in your asshole.

[A]

You don't want to say rubber first.

[B]

I'm the one that said glass first.

[A]

No, you said rubber.

[B]

I said rewind. I brought up the glass conversation. I'm the one who brought it up.

[A]

No, you rub it. Then you said glass later. But I didn't say any. You just. So you said rubber first. I was like, oh, yeah, that'd be nice. I. Rubber dildo. You know what, Jay? Please rewind the tape.

[B]

Please do.

[A]

And if I'm wrong, I apologize.

[B]

It is the new season. It is the. Welcome to season five. Hey, I'll wait till the third apology. So I take your hand. Oh, my God. The third one is when I was. When I. I'll finally touch her.

[A]

Do you think I'll ever get an apology for you?

[B]

I have apologies. It's on camera.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

And you remember when I went through all the texts where I was saying sorry? You don't remember all those.

[A]

Yeah. You are sorry with your.

[B]

With your selective memory.

[A]

You are sorry. You a sorry ass.

[B]

We heard you the first time, you sorry ass with your little selective ass memory.

[A]

Sorry, sorry ass negro.

[B]

So the question is. I'm. I'm. I'm glad that I'm finally getting my information. I know you ain't talking. I. I know you ain't talking.

[A]

We both stutter.

[B]

But one of us said it's a little more.

[A]

This is true.

[B]

It is.

[A]

And one of us said it was true.

[B]

And one of us said that was me doing you.

[A]

No, it wasn't. That was natural. Rewind the tape. And one of us is an ableist.

[B]

Yeah, you with my colorblindness every time.

[A]

And you with my speech impediment.

[B]

Yeah, because it's funny when you do it. Because when you stutter, it's funny.

[A]

And it's funny. You think that this is blue.

[B]

I don't think it's funny.

[A]

It's funny. You think this shit is purple.

[B]

And every time you. It tickles me. The way that your vocal cords get tickled when you get something to work.

[A]

Vocal cords are not causing stammering, so you're already wrong. Because you don't understand how the body works when that's fine.

[B]

Makes me laugh.

[A]

Clearly.

[B]

And when they drag, you clearly like it.

[A]

Clearly.

[B]

Do you think you can make it the rest of the podcast without stuttering?

[A]

For sure.

[B]

100%.

[A]

100%.

[B]

And what happens if you do?

[A]

What happens if I do?

[B]

Making a nosebleed. Trying to.

[A]

If I don't stutter? I don't know. What do you want to wager?

[B]

I feel like I don't. I'm not on trial I said ah. That wasn't a stutter. Oh, my God, Jay, this is the third rewind.

[A]

Rewind that shit.

[B]

I'm not on trial. You're on trial here. You're on trial here.

[A]

I mean, I'm the cardi b of this trial, baby.

[B]

Did you hear a Gayle King?

[A]

No, I did not watch.

[B]

I haven't listened to the album yet.

[A]

I haven't either.

[B]

I have not listened. So we're gonna see how you do. I'm gonna ask you some rapid fire questions.

[A]

Oh, maybe.

[B]

And we're gonna see how well you can do it. Not stuttering.

[A]

Okay, what are the rapid fire questions?

[B]

What day is today? Like the date?

[A]

I don't know today's date.

[B]

Do you know the day of the week? It is?

[A]

I know that today is Tuesday.

[B]

What color is your car?

[A]

My car is black.

[B]

Where were you born?

[A]

I was born in Brooklyn, New York.

[B]

How many siblings do you have?

[A]

I have two.

[B]

What's your mom's name?

[A]

June.

[B]

Any animals you had growing up? Any animals you had growing up?

[A]

Dogs.

[B]

What kind of animals?

[A]

Dogs.

[B]

Just one dog? You had nothing else?

[A]

You said what kind of animals?

[B]

You'd had another kind of animals?

[A]

No, it's just dogs.

[B]

What kind of animals do you have right now?

[A]

I have a dog and a cat.

[B]

A dog and a cat. What are their names?

[A]

Colleen and potato.

[B]

What do you feed the cat? Who do you feed the cat? I want to know what you feed the cat.

[A]

Cat food.

[B]

Specifically the Brand Hill signs diet. Oh, really? Nice. Would you work out today? You get out of that? Did you work out today?

[A]

I did.

[B]

Okay, now you try to give me some questions. Let's see how we do. You ready? Go.

[A]

Wait.

[B]

What? Fire away.

[A]

Where you from?

[B]

I'm from Columbus, Georgia.

[A]

Where are you born?

[B]

Columbus, Georgia.

[A]

Where you go to college?

[B]

Columbus, Georgia.

[A]

Who's your sister?

[B]

I don't have a sister.

[A]

Do you have a brother?

[B]

I do have two.

[A]

What's his name?

[B]

Caleb and Justin. Caleb's my younger brother. Just my older brother. 19 and 41. I have a lot of aunts. My aunt Hazel, my aunt Lisa, my aunt Stephanie, my aunt Tracy, my aunt Stacy, my aunt Chris. Am I forgetting anyone? I don't think so. And if you are watching. I forgot. I apologize.

[A]

What's your partner's name?

[B]

I have two partners. Tao and Jacob. Lovely, lovely people.

[A]

Where'd you go to high school?

[B]

I went to high school at Morrow High School. In Ellenwood. Ellenwood, Georgia? No, Morrow. I lived in Wood and Morrow. High School is in Morrow, Georgia. But they're like, side by side. Like, literally side by side. Got it.

[A]

Who's your childhood best friend?

[B]

I had a few. Lawrence was one of my childhood best friends. Alicia was a childhood best friend. Chase was a childhood best friend.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

I actually remember when I was in lagrange, Georgia, I had a friend named Avery. And I realized one day me and Avery couldn't be friends anymore.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because on the bus in lagrange, Georgia, I was feeling particularly religious. One day, I just looked at Avery and I said, I just love Jesus. Don't you? And Avery said, not really.

[A]

Wow. That's why you unfriended Avery.

[B]

He was talking crazy about my Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. And I said, you're telling me that you don't? And he was like, no, not really. And then I turn as. So I found out Avery was. Was Muslim. And then I looked at this other girl, and I was like, what about you? Do you love Jesus? She was like, not really. Buddhist.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

And I remember thinking to myself, I am in a den of sin.

[A]

I don't think I've ever in my life met a Buddhist or someone who practiced Buddhism. I don't think.

[B]

I.

[A]

Like, if they ever met.

[B]

You are from New York City, but you never met a Buddhist.

[A]

Maybe I did. They did not identify themselves to me, so I did not know they were Buddhist. I was gonna say I may have met him, but I'm not.

[B]

Like, I think Buddhists advertise the way other religions do.

[A]

And Jews and Muslims.

[B]

Yeah, they really advertise with, like, iconography and, like, music. And I've never noticed a Buddhist to advertise in the way that Judeo Christian religions do. And I don't know if Islam is considered Judeo Christian religion.

[A]

I'm mad at you.

[B]

Mad at me for what?

[A]

I'm upset about what? Because you did not tell me that there is a role in Jesus Christ Superstar. That's for me. I did not know that. I thought that there was nothing I could do in the show.

[B]

This is crazy. I literally told you there's some. Jacob wrote Satan. No, I told you. I have told you.

[A]

Which role?

[B]

The priest.

[A]

No, that's not the one who. Caiaphas, the priest. Oh, he's the.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I don't know. I didn't know. I know he was the priest. Priest. I thought that his name was Caiaphas. I thought the role was the priest.

[B]

No, he. So there are several priests. Caiaphas and Annis are the main two priests, and they have a bunch of other priests that Go along with them. And it's the one with the. With the. He's like, what then to do about this Jesus mania? You get the high voice and then Kaibus goes, one thing I'll say for him, Jesus is cool.

[A]

One thing I'll say for him, Jesus is cool.

[B]

Yeah. And I have literally, Jesus Christ of Aar.

[A]

Get your girl.

[B]

By the way, I have literally told you this.

[A]

Well, you said the priest. I don't know, his name was Caiaphas. I thought like, the role was the priest.

[B]

Do you want to apologize again? You're one away from a handshake.

[A]

You know what? I don't want the handshake. Well, because it won't feel sincere.

[B]

But do you want to apologize for accusing me of not telling you what I've told you about the priest? Cuz I knew you wouldn't know their name. Cuz I know you're not Christian. You weren't raised in the church. You're a heathen like Avery.

[A]

Is that Caiaphas with the pin with the pointing? Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I don't know what Caiaphas look like in real life. I just know what he looks like at the. What do you call it? The Hollywood Bowl. He was like six foot five, hot. The guy who played Caiaphas at the Hollywood bowl was a very tall man.

[A]

What I hook up with this, I'm like, this is a Patreon exclusive.

[B]

Well, then we'll talk about afterwards. Yeah, okay. You know what? We're at an hour.

[A]

For those of you who want to.

[B]

Know what Monet's about to say about this hookup, we'll see you on Patreon this Friday.

[A]

I'm an angel. See the wings?

[B]

Don't miss the new comedy Good Fortune.

[A]

Starring Seth Rogen, Aziz Ansari and Keanu Ruth. Leaves. Critics rave. It's heaven sent. Let me have a budget. Guardian angel, kinda. You were very unhelpful. Good Fortune, directed by Aziz Ansari. Rated R.