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My name is bob the drag queen.
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And I'm monet x james.
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And this is sibling rivalry.
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On today's episode, we talk about corporal punishment.
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We talk about the passing of Queen Elizabeth ii.
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And we find out what made Bob say this.
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If my family on both sides is any indication, bitch, I'mma be loopy by the time I'm 60. And we find out what made Monet say this.
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Not a single day on this planet since I passed that class in fucking freshman year have I ever had to tangent or co sign a fucking thing.
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Unique.
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I said, Beyonce. Everybody out here thinking that they're unique. I mean, baby, it's not unique.
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We are all unique.
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But also the irony of it is that saying, like, you're unique, but you're doing a trend that everyone else is doing. It's the irony of doing the trend of, like, I'm unique, but you're literally doing a trend that we're all doing.
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I hear that. But, you know, the trend itself isn't the unique part. It's what you do outside of.
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I get it. But the irony of doing this trend about being unique.
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I feel like uniqueness was really a big thing when I was a kid. It was like telling everyone how unique they were and everyone, you're special and you're unique.
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It was.
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I feel when I was a kid, it was a huge. A huge thing in, like, the. The school's curriculum, making sure that we all knew how unique and how special we were. And then I remember being older and seeing a sticker at Hot Topic that said, remember, you're unique just like everybody else.
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I feel like that's a trend now. Like, I feel like I hear a lot of people because I have a lot of teacher friends and they ran along.
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Maybe the trend's not over. Maybe the trend's still going, or maybe the trend's coming back.
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I didn't experience this unique thing. Everyone telling me I was unique in school by teaching. Maybe it was by schools I went to, but it was not baked into our. It was not baked into our curriculum to be told how unique and special we were.
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Well, five years, or maybe.
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Maybe there was, but I just wasn't told. Didn't think I was.
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Years is quite a bit of difference in terms of schooling. I will say that a lot changes in five years because, like, basically by the time you, like, you and I were never in any. I think at one point, we may have been in elementary school at the same time, but outside of that, by the time I get out of elementary school, Middle school. There's a whole new group of people in middle school by the time you came in. No one from when I was in middle school was there when you were there, unless they just were held back.
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Would you ever. If you were to have children, would you ever think about homeschooling?
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No, never. Not once. Never would I homeschool my children.
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Why?
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Well, I don't have the time, the desire. And I think that you can get a much better education if you're being schooled by a professional. Maybe if I was a professional educator. Yeah, but being an educator, it's not something you just. Just do on your own when you. I mean, you can do it on your own, but I mean, I think
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there's a lot of people do.
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Yeah, sure. That doesn't make it great. A lot of people also smoke crack. I think that. I think that there is a reason why people get. Do lots of training, higher education, continued learning, just in order to learn how to be a teacher and learn how to educate people. And I think I take it really seriously.
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I think that people choose homeschooling for different reasons. One, financial reasons. One, they. Especially now where you see people are financially.
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What do you mean financial reasons? What does that mean?
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Sometimes you can't afford. Because some schools don't have school and stuff like that. And it's easier to have your kid.
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What did you say?
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Like, it's easier for some people to have their kid at home as opposed to sending them to school with like lunch money and buying them food and stuff where you can just have them at home. And it may be easier. You can have like all this, like, cooked food. I don't know.
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But every public school in America offers free lunch for people who don't have a lot of money.
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Not for like charter schools.
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Public schools. Yes, charter schools. Public charter schools offer free lunch. I used to work at one.
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But I know that there are financial reasons. I don't know what they are, but there are financial reasons that people do public school, I mean, do homeschool. And also just in today's climate, it is. People are scared to send their kids to school. They're like, I'm gonna homeschool my kids. Because that is a sure fired. Way I use the word fired. That is a sure. That is a guarantee that I know that my kids will be alive by. Because the mystery, the miscellaneous of sending them to a public school, that they may be killed by trying to get education. So I think a lot of reasons why people choose homeschooling, I would Never homeschool. I would be a horrible homeschool parent. I would be a horrible. I mean, all that time I was teaching my kids music all day, it was just music all day. It'd be great, but have to teach my kids math, arithmetic.
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Girl, homeschooling your kids sounds more expensive than sending them to school. I think you have to buy the textbooks like you have. You have to have. You have to have one parent who's. You have to have a parent who's not working. You have to have someone who, or at least works from home. You have to have someone who can dedicate eight hours of their day just to teaching your child, which means they're not. They're earning less income than having a full time job. I don't think there's a lot of financial benefits to homeschooling your children.
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A lot of people who do homeschool, there's a parent who's already a homemaker, there's a parent who stays home. Like only one parent works and one parent stays home. So they. So that parent who's staying home take up the mantle of homeschooling a kid. I just don't feel like, I feel
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like if you're really concerned about money, I mean, I don't know, teach her own. But I feel like you're really concerned about money. Instead of saving money by not seeing your kid at school, you'd make more money by going by having the other parent go find part time work or after. Covid.
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A lot of people need to do like multiple people, multiple kids. Like one. The one homeschooling lady, she'll have like multiple kids. She'll homeschool multiple kids from her neighborhood, from their community, and then those parents end up paying that person whatever it is. So it ends up being, I mean, I don't know how legal that is.
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Like private school. Like an unaccredited private school. If you're paying a random person to teach your kids, that's like unaccredited private school.
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Yeah. And it's probably not legal, but I have a few friends, especially when people didn't want to vaccinate their kids. I have some old friends on Facebook, girl, they were like, I'm not vaccinating my kid. So. So they had, in the neighborhoods in Queens and Brooklyn, whatever. They'd have one house and they would send the kids to that house. And now they weren't like past middle school age. This is like elementary and younger. So. But it still seems, I just feel like home school just a whole Bunch
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of unvaccinated kids hanging out in one room together.
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Kids don't get to be social at home as much. And I am very grateful for my public school. And so when I went to school in St. Lucia, that was private school. And then when I went to school in America, it was public school. And I think public school is great. But also in School in St. Lucia, it was like we had, like, corporal punishment. Like, teachers were. Teachers would beat the shit out of you. Like, teachers would get a ruler and fuck you up.
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You had corporal punishment?
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Yeah, for sure. Like, we would have recess, and I would, like, run around, and I would get sweaty, and I would do stuff. And then when we would come back from recess, I was always a sweaty person. We'd come back from recess, my school shirt would be soaking wet, and she'd be like, kevin, why are you sweating? Why are you soaking wet? I was like, oh. Cause I was, like, playing at recess, and I would get beat for being too sweaty after recess. Isn't that crazy?
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It sounds like child abuse. Yes. Girl.
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I don't know if corporal punishment is still a thing, but maybe.
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I don't know. It is. I went to a school that had corporal punishment.
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Really?
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Yes, I did.
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I feel like I knew this, but I'm still shocked you went to school punishment. I know, kids, but it's in America, though. I feel like I didn't know that was. I think, like, I thought they outlawed that in America, like, in, like, the 80s or something.
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Like, federally. I used to get. I used to went to school that. It was in. It was the. The 90s, and it was in Mississippi. You could not do corporal punishment in Georgia, but in Mississippi, and at least in the 90s, you could. There was corporal punishment, and you would get. You would get your knuckles racked. You get hit with a belt, you'd get kind of basically whatever form of punishment the teacher deemed appropriate, and it would be right in front of the class. Everyone would see you get it done. Everyone would watch. And it wasn't just, like, by the side. It was like, everyone look up here. Now I'm gonna hit this person's knuckles. And, yeah, it was wild.
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Yeah, corporate punishment is wild, but, yeah, the social skills that you learn, I feel from public school and being amongst other kids, I think it's very important, and I'm very.
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If I could, I would send my kids to a private school if I could afford it and it made sense with our schedule stuff, I would send my kids to a private school. Would you have done a board No, I wouldn't want to do boarding school. My niece is in board school right now.
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Really? On Nevaeh. Where?
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Somewhere. Somewhere in Maryland. I don't know.
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Oh, wow. Boarding school. Boarding school. I just feel like your kid is gone for so long, you don't see them except for, like, breaks. That would be so sad. I would miss my little baby.
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Jacob went to boarding school.
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Jacob did go to boarding school. Oh, gosh. If I was sent to boarding school, I would have loved to be sent to boarding school back in my home country, in England.
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Not in America, in the uk.
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You hear that a lot. Lady Bunny went to boarding school in the uk.
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Oh, did she?
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She did.
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A very interesting person. She's so interesting. She went to a Quaker school, just like Jacob and Ezra went to boarding school, too.
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Damn, y' all got money.
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Jacob and Ezra both went to Quaker school. And it probably wasn't expensive school. I'm sure it was. I'm sure it was not cheap. And also, Lydia, Bunny lived in Africa for, like, several years. She's just so interesting.
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Yeah.
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What was the subject that you hate?
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What I was saying, what subject did you struggle in the most in school?
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Math. Always. Math, every time. Math, never. Not math every time. It was math, nonstop. Math was horrible. I was very, very bad at math. And my teacher, the math teachers, always gave the most homework. And I hate. I hate homework.
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So why do you hate homework?
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Because I don't want to fucking do work from. I don't want to do this shit when I'm gone. Like, I just. My brain doesn't work that way. Like, I just can't do it. Like, when I get home, I just cannot sit down and do my homework. I just can't. It feels like I literally can't do it. And when I sit down, the paper feels like it is 1,000 miles long. And as I'm, like, doing it, I get so anxious, my body starts tingling. And the closer I get to the final one I start, my handwriting starts getting sloppy. I started, like, fucking up the numbers, everything. I just. I just can't. I just didn't have the capacity to do homework.
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I was. I. I was good at math. I wasn't, like, terrible. I was like, fine. But one thing I really got fucked up was when we got the motherfucking Texas instrument calculators with the cosine, the tangent, the sine, and I was like, this shit that I have never used in my adult fucking life. Not a single day on this planet since I passed that class in fucking freshman year. Have I ever had to tangent or cosine a fucking thing.
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You could have actually used a lot of it for sewing. You could have used a lot of sewing.
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How to sew.
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You could have used a lot of geometry. You've sewn, you have sown.
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Yeah, but I sew.
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I would say you sew more than most people, even though you don't do it a lot now in your lifetime, you've sewn more than most people will ever sell.
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May. Maybe that's debatable, but again, is it? I. I have done.
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How many happies do you think you've
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made in my life?
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Yeah, like, if you had to guess, do you think you made more than 20?
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Yeah, I would say more than 20.
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Do you think you made more than 30?
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No.
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I would venture to say that if you've made more than 20 outfits, you've sewn more than most people in the world. If you, in the comments below and you have sewn less than 20 outfits, comment below, say, I've sewn less than 20 outfits. And I think, you know that. You just want to argue. You just want to argue.
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Well, I think that it also has to do where we live in the world, right? In St. Lucia, a lot of people sew. Aren't you from St. Lucia?
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Were you sewing? Did you make 20 outfits?
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Hold on, let me. Can I finish? In St. Lucia, like it, Like, a lot of like, it's like, my dad knows how to sew as my uncle sews. My dad knows how to sew, my uncles know how to sew. It's like a thing. It's not looked as this feminine thing or whatever. Like, it's just kind of something everyone learns how to do so that you can fix your pocket or you can do this. So I think your dad.
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You think your dad's made over 20 outfits.
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Maybe not 20 outfits, but he definitely sewed a lot of things. I don't know how to quantify all the things that he's done because if you're just counting it as making outfits. But that's not just all sewing encompasses. Sewing is when you know when you can fix a shirt, when you can hem a pants or whatever. Like, that's. That's all sewing.
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I would agree with that. But I would say that sewing a pair of pants, sewing a dress quantifies as a lot more sewing than sticking on a button. I would say sewing a dress quantifies as a whole lot more sewing than using a pocket.
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But I'll leave it at this.
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If you've sewn Probably. If you probably think you've sewn less than 20 outfits, or if your pocket stitching and your sock darning has equaled less than 20 outfits, comment below.
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No, you're saying if it's more.
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No, if it's less. I'm saying you sew. You sew because you're going to get more comments from people sewing less. Because there are more people like that.
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If you've sewn a lot, and we're not just talking about if sewing a dress or a gown or a leotard or catsuit, if you have hemmed pants, if you have ripped your pants, you have stitched it up, whatever that counts, are sewing too. And if you've done it more than 20 times, comment below.
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And I would say even if more people in Saint Lucia are sewing than people in America, the sheer number of people.
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I'm not just saying St. Lucia, I'm just saying. I'm just saying we have a skewed view of it because we're America, but in a lot of other countries and a lot of the Caribbean, in the uk, in Asia.
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Monet, you are arguing for the sake of arguing. And I will not say that is.
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That is. That is my point. Just because you don't want to talk about us is their fucking problem. Honey. I'm just saying in America, sure, but in Asia, in Southeast Asia, in the Caribbean, in other places, a lot of people do that. It's just not an American thing. Everyone is not learning how to do that skill of learning how to sew.
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You know this about Southeast Asia. You know that a lot of people in Southeast Asia sew.
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I don't know it for sure, but it may be true. I don't know.
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Well, you. You said it as a.
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So if you are. If you are Southeast Asian and you. And basic sewing skills is something that you learned how to do growing up, comment below as well.
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Do you feel good that you got that off your chest?
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I do. Do you feel good that you got your sewing off your chest?
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Sure. Good. Let's take a break.
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No, not a single episode.
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Yeah, I did. My brother was a big Soprano watcher. It was such a. It was like a cultural moment. Like, the Soprano was like a very good show, a very big show. That was a cultural moment. Oz was a culture moment. I used to watch a lot of Oz secretly, especially when they would have, like, prison scenes where you would see someone's dick or someone was doing something with someone in a cell. I was like, oh, my God, this is so homoerotic. I used to love Oz. Adebisi. Oh, my God, Adebisi was hot.
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I did not watch a lot of Oz. I think I may have watched one or two episodes of Oz when I was younger. But no, I was not. I just wasn't into that show. I also didn't have HBO or Showtime, whatever came on. I didn't have any, like, super extended deep extra pay channels. So I was like, if it ain't on basic cable, I do not got it.
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Well, you know what's about to be on basic cable, bitch. We're the. The. The Queen's funeral. They. They're going to shut basic channels down for that day. From sunrise to sunset, we will be hearing all about the Queen and her funeral. And I'm saying that funeral is about to be probably. It's probably all the pomp and circumstance is going to be around it and all the things, all the rituals and all the ceremonies and all that, it's going to be. It's going to be wild. I can't even imagine what it's going to be like.
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I think when a royal dies. And I'm actually sure that when a royal dies, it does become world news, especially the head of the monarchy,
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the
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oldest living monarch in British history. The Queen was 96 years old when she passed away. And now there's a King of England,
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King Charles II or the third, which feels.
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I'm not sure, which feels really interesting to say the King of England, because that sounds like such an old term. Because pretty much, pretty much everyone living alive, almost every single living person right now, very few people have ever lived without the Queen of England. Very few people have ever lived in a world where the Queen of England didn't exist except. Well, actually, everyone literally live now. Literally everyone living now. But like, pretty much no one has memories pre Queen Elizabeth because she was 96 years old, and she assumed the crown at a very young age. Now, there's a. There's a massive discourse on Twitter right now because Twitter and TikTok, because a lot of people, especially a lot of black people, are making a lot of jokes about the Queen of England passing. And a lot of people are being like, it's super, super sensitive. And, like, never speak ill of the dead. Do you believe in never speaking ill of the dead?
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I don't. I don't agree with Nova. Speaking ill of the dead. They were alive and died just like a lot of people on this earth have, and a lot of us will. And I don't think you get bad juju, bad karma about speaking ill that. I don't. I don't prescribe to that.
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I thought it was just, like, respecting. I don't think it was about, like, bad karma. I think it was just, like, a respect thing. Don't speak ill of the dead because they're dead. Like, give them respect. They're dead.
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Some people. I mean, I. I grew up. If you. If you like. If you, like, talk ill about someone who's dead, like, they'll, like, come back to haunt you. Like, stuff like that.
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Oh, when I grew up, it was just that. It's disrespectful. Like, not that.
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It was.
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Not that. That was when I grew up. It wasn't about it being haunted or it was just like, if you speak ill of the dead, it is a disrespectful thing. Don't do it.
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I'm pretty sure she's like. She's, like, the second longest monarch of all time.
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She's the longest monarch in the. In the uk. Like, of the.
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Yeah, but she's the second of all time. Someone else is longer than her. I don't know if they're British. Yeah. Not a British. There's someone. Some other country is a longer someone. Someone reigned for longer than 70 years. Sounds crazy.
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Mm.
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But, yeah, I. You know, I didn't. My oldest. My earliest memory of the Queen of England I know was when Diana died. Cause I remember when Princess Anna died, it was 97. I remember my dad, like, putting it up on the screen and, like, watching, like, all the stuff. And I remember her giving her remarks about it. So that's like my, like, first conscious memory of Queen Elizabeth and being aware of who or what she is. Even though St Lucia is a Commonwealth of. Of the UK, we don't have any. There's nothing that we do about the Queen, like, any type of reverence, ceremonial anything about Queen Elizabeth. So that's the only thing.
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Does she have, like, official, like, properties and governmental properties in St. Lucia? She has to. There's the Royal palace has, like, Any place they have a commonwealth, they have, like a property in those places.
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I'm sure they have a property. But there's nothing that is revered or people that's, like, common knowledge in St. Lucia that people are like, oh, yeah, the Queen's like, it's not. She is on the currency.
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Yeah, she's on. Yeah, she's on the currency of a lot of countries, including Canada, Australia, St. Lucia, lots of African countries. And she's. They're changing that now. You know, pretty much as soon as the Queen or the. Whoever, the head dies, you change the money immediately. So they're gonna start putting King Charles on the money. Like, so basically, the next money that rolls out, King Charles is going to be on St Lucian money now, which is so interesting to me.
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That is so wild, because Queen Elizabeth
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has been on so much money for so long, it's about to be King Charles. And also, there was like, a. Apparently, like, every news newscaster and, like, news anchor in the uk they all keep, like, a black suit and tie in their desk for when the Queen passes so that they can report on it.
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In the uk yeah. Wow. Yeah. I mean, I have met. I've been listening to a lot of podcasts and stuff about it. And Sunny Halston on the View, like, had like, a really, like, scalding take on it about the Queen Elizabeth. And she was just. Her sentiment was basically like, yeah, the Queen is. Said that she passed, but, you know, she represents, you know, a really toxic and, you know, poisonous monarchy. She was like. She was a figurehead. And in her time, she did not do a lot, nearly a lot or anything really, about changing the really torrid history of the UK and the monarchy that is the British Empire.
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I don't know what Queen Elizabeth did to change. To change the history of what they've done. I have no clue because I know very little about the royal family, but I do know that the royal family has negative impact. A lot of people of color, specifically Africans and Asians around the world and. And, you know, truly put through a lot of countries into a lot of poverty. And, you know, I don't think she did a whole lot. I don't actually. I don't know. I can't. I literally can't speak to what she did. I don't know a lot about. I'm not. I'm never one of the folks who like watches, TUD or any.
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Any kind of the Crown. Me either. Yeah.
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I've never watched. I just never really been terribly interested in any of the royal family. But, you know, I. I do imagine it is very sad for the Queen. For Queen Elizabeth. I'm sure that is very sad for a lot of people. You know, I think no matter who dies, someone's gonna be sad. You know, I mean, someone was sad when. When, you know, some bad. Some other bad person was killed. You know what I mean? But I think that for. To. To condemn people who aren't sad seems a little bit. Seems a little bit wild to me.
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Yeah. Sonny wasn't condemning people. She was just saying, like, her.
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No, not Sunny. I'm talking about people.
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Not Sunny.
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I'm talking about people who. There's a lot. There's some people who are like, maybe some royalists who are like, how dare you say anything about this? She. She was our. She was like, the Queen, and she was a world leader. But also, like, Americans have. Bitch, we don't revere our own leader.
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Right? We're not revering.
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We don't revere our own leaders. I don't know why y' all thought America was about to start revering leaders from around the country. I mean, from around the world.
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Like, girl, I will say this, though. It is like, so there's this. You know, there's this movement to get a lot of the art, culture, and artifacts that reside in some British museums and et cetera, that belong to the countries that were stolen from other countries. Like, a lot of the crown jewels and things that are, you know, that are in possession of the royal family, they're like, give those back to Africa, where you got them from. And it's, like, so crazy to me because, again, we all know that it was stolen. We all know how they got it. And then they're just like, no, we're not giving it back. It's like the whole world has a consciousness of where this stuff came from and how it came to be. And it really, like, please give it back to where it came from. And the royal family was like, no, we're not going to.
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I don't think it's that crazy, because, I mean, would America ever give the land back to the indigenous people? Here is. That's no different, right? I mean, the very land that you and I are occupying right now would never be given back for any reason to indigenous people, you know, entire Canada, all of Canada. Every. Every country where they speak Spanish and it's Not Spain has been incredibly colonized. Spanish is not a language native to anywhere outside of Europe. The only place Spanish is native to is Europe. Anywhere they speak English, Spanish or French that is not in Europe, has been colonized.
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Colonizer.
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So I guess to me, it doesn't seem too odd that they're not gonna give back the jewels because I know that America's never gonna give back this land. They're never gonna do that.
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We should really fucking make. I don't know, just fucking stir some shit up, like, get people to. Because, I mean, I know you've done some work with indigenous peoples in the Americas, but I feel like there has to be, like, more to do and like to do it effectively and like, make ways, like make shit the fuck happen.
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The only way that America. I mean, it's in. In my opinion, it is. It is. This is my. I don't know a whole lot about it, but it is so far gone. There's nothing. There is nothing America can do. If. If America just for whatever reason, decided to randomly give back all of this land to indigenous people, the. The indigenous people wouldn't even have the resources to maintain.
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To sustain it.
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Yeah, to sustain. To sustain it. It is so far gone. It is beyond. They will never do restorative justice. They won't do it for indigenous people. They won't do it for black people. They won't do it for anyone because they're so far gone now. I was really intrigued by that, by America being like, we don't have enough money for reparations. But all of a sudden, during COVID they had enough money to give everybody a couple thousand dollars. I was like, oh, all of a
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sudden we just gave Ukraine like, $19.4 billion. You know what I mean? And I mean, and then again, we represent a stolen people on a stolen land. So it's like. It's literally just a cycle of shit that. It's like shit piled on top of shit. It's like, you. How do you get to the bottom of it? I agree we are too far gone to get to the bottom of it, but I think there are still some strides. There's something we can do because again, we always find money to do for war. War is the thing. We never not have money for everything else. Like, we can't do student loan debt all the way though. We can't do reparations. We can't get the. We just don't have the money to help out the indigenous people. But bitch war. Oh, here's $2.5 trillion. Let's do it. We always find money for war.
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I still think that reparations should be paid by any. In any business that is that thrived off a fruit of the loom. I don't know if they were alive, if they were in business at the time, but any company that made money off of slave labor, if it is still around, they should be, in my opinion, ordered to contribute to reparations to descendants of American chattel slavery. That is my opinion. Because otherwise you'll be asking black people to pay taxes to pay themselves back, to pay reparations.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? Yeah, but what do I fucking know? That's just. Yeah, what do I know? So I guess that, I mean, it would be. It would be a great symbol to give back those artworks. And I think it would make sense to give back this art and these jewels to these countries. But I think that it is. To me that's just a symbol. It'd merely be symbolic. Yes, it does have monetary value, but I think that the restorative justice needed to uplift these communities goes far beyond. Goes far beyond. And I don't work in restorative justice. So I would not know even where to begin. I wouldn't want to know where to start, begin or end to restore justice to any of these places, including. If you ever go to a reservation, it is so wild because it. You can see where the dollar, the tax dollars stop literally as you're driving it.
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I never been to a reservation.
A
It feels like someone drew a line across the highway and across the land. You can literally see where they stopped picking up trash. I'll tell you more about it in a second. All right, I'm back. You can literally see where they stopped picking up trash. You can see where they. Where they stopped fixing the road. You can see the buildings immediately in a second change once you cross over the, like that county line.
B
Yeah, I never been. I would actually like to go. I mean, you have to be invited to go to reservoir. You can't just go on your own. You have to. Like someone has to bring you to reservation. Correct.
A
I don't. I don't know. I was invited, so I don't. I don't know for sure that you have to be invited, but I know that I was invited.
B
I. Have you, have you seen the pictures of Meghan and Harry going. And a lot of the pictures they're posting, you see Meghan and Harry, body language analysis analysts for analysizers. The fuck body language analysts are looking at Meghan And Harry and how William and Kate are behaving. And Meghan is constantly with Harry, like, trying to, like, not console him. Cause he's not distraught, whatever. But he's. You know, she's like, he might be distraught.
A
His grandmother is dead, right. So he might be distraught. That's not saying.
B
But Kate and William, every. And again, this may be just the media, because the media is fucked up, too. The man just showing us the things that we. To portray these stories. But William and Kate, the pictures of them, they're never together. Like, they're like. Kate is never, like, next to him, like, holding hands or anything. They always like, bitch on opposite. Opposite sides of the screen. It's kind of wild.
A
I think people mourn differently. You know, I was big, big shout out and sending some healing energy to Mama Deb, Shangela's mother, who is recently had a cancer scare. And Shangela shared that this morning on. And also, congratulations to Shangela for making it on Dancing with the Stars.
B
I know Shangela, congratulations.
A
You know, they would get a tiny drag queen to put on there, honey. Because my big ass. Imagine my big ass was on Dancing with the Stars. But, you know, watching Shannon talk about her mom being. It really just kind of me up this morning. I was on the couch watching. I was like, oh, my God. If my mom. If this happened to my mom, my mom again, I would just be. It would just really level.
B
Had a cancer scare before.
A
My mom didn't have a cancer scare, but she had to get chemotherapy because of. She had to get chemotherapy because of her sickness. But it. But chemotherapy treats more than just cancer. But watching. Well, when you find out that your parent might pass away because of an illness, it is so scary. It is really, really scary. And, you know, you never know how you're gonna act. You never know how you're gonna act. I always think, I don't know what I'll do. I don't know what I'll do if I die. If my mom dies before me, I don't know what I'll do. I don't know how I react. I don't know. I have no clue. I can't even fathom. I'll be a mess. I don't know if I want to be around people. I don't know if I want to be by myself. I have no clue. I'll be a mess. I know that.
B
And these. And these kids, they. Prince. Prince Harry and William, they had to see their mom die. And then now they had to see their grandmother die. I mean, which I mean, most of us go into life, like, thinking that you're probably going to see your grandparent pass away.
A
Like, that's like. That seems pretty common.
B
Yeah. But I mean, I just, you know, for this. These are kids. And anyway. And then all the princes of pictures of Prince Charles, have you seen these images of his, like, giant fingers?
A
Have you seen this King Charles?
B
King Charles? Have you seen this man's hands?
A
I've not. Does he have huge hands?
B
Bob, I gotta show it to you, right? I was showing it to someone earlier. King Charles hands. Or just Google King Charles hands. It was gonna come up.
A
I'm Googling. Does he have big hands or something?
B
Them things look like they are. He's near them.
A
Oh, they're all, like, sausagey.
B
And his toes, too. Look at that pinky. Look at that pinky.
A
Well, Monat, there's two things. One, he is incredibly old.
B
How old is he?
A
How old is King Charles?
B
78, I'm guessing.
A
She said 23. That's not true. Is he.
B
Well, he looks terrible. He's 73 years old.
A
Yeah. King Charles, he's a very old man, and he probably has a host of health issues. And the Royal Family is notably. There's a lot going on with their bloodline. There's some funky business going on with the royal bloodline. There is some. There is. There is some oddness going on with
B
the royal bloodline, girl. Well, I posted on my Twitter, I
A
was like, well, whatever they got, it lets them live long. Whatever. Whatever mutation they got, them niggas be living long as hell. 96 is old. Old. That is very old.
B
My grandmother is 89.
A
That is old. That is old. 89 is old. Old is not an insult. It's just a descriptive word.
B
No, yeah, yeah, I know my grandma's that's old, but she's my grandma. She's completely aware of her faculties. Like, she is. She cooks. She like, oh, my God. I had to show you a little video of my grandmother. We call her Mammy Mammy. It doesn't have the same connotation like in America.
A
If you call somebody in my family Mammy, it would be. It would be a. If you call my Aunt Hazel. Man, I'm trying to imagine. I'm trying to imagine you calling my Aunt Hazel Mammy. Oh, I am so uncomfortable.
B
There she goes. Come on. She thinks Colleen is the. I showed a picture of Colleen when I went down there.
A
She's like, kevin, what's that?
B
I was like, it's my cat Mammy. She's like, that thing ugly. I was like, oh, my God.
A
My mother also thinks her cat is very ugly, too. My mom goes, monet still got that ugly, ugly cat? And I say, yes, she does have that old, ugly cat.
B
Colleen's very beautiful.
A
You know, my father's grandmother, when she was toward the end of her life, she was. She was not a whippersnapper. She was bedridden for, like, the last, like, probably 20 years of her life, maybe more, and just completely senile. I do not have high hopes for my mental health late for later years of my life, because if my family on both sides has any is any indication, Bitch. I'm gonna be loopy. By the time I'm 60, I'm gonna be gone. Honey nutty bitch, you're already loopy.
B
You're already fucking nutty.
A
Oh, and you're already. Who are you and who are you?
B
I will say this. You and my family live very old. People in my family live very long, but also people. People in my family very long. But I already. I have very. Like. I was talking to dejuan today. We're talking about how, like, how I forget stuff. And he was like, kevin, you've always been that way. Like, we were like, reminiscent of, like, old college times. And since college, since I've been 19, 18, I just have. I have very bad memory. And I am knocking on all the wood that I pray that I don't have, like, Alzheimer's dementia. Cause I see, like, these videos of tiktoks of, like, dads or, like, older people, and they are going through Alzheimer's or dementia, and it just. And they just have. They have no idea who these people are. And, like, I'll be talking to you. I'm like. And like. And you're my friend Bob, and I love you. And, like, I'm like, I know I love you, but I don't know, you. Like, to me, that seems so sad, and I don't want that to happen, but I have such a bad memory. So scared that's going to be me.
A
You know, they can detect Alzheimer's very early. Very, very early.
B
But can you fix it? It's not. It's not fixable. Right?
A
I think I saw. I don't know, I saw things somewhere that said it. You actually can treat it, but most people don't treat it because they never know they have it. And by the time. By the time you show signs, you're. You're done. You're done.
B
Really? Yeah. Okay. What's the difference between Alzheimer's and dementia?
A
It's Alzheimer's, not Alzheimer's.
B
I know Alzheimer's. A, L, Z, H, I. I just pronounce it how. I pronounce it. Alzheimer's how. What's the difference between the two?
A
Well, you can get dementia from a lot of different things. Alzheimer's is. Alzheimer's is a condition itself, whereas you can get dementia from having something else. Like there's something called AIDS dementia, where if you, where, if you. Where like the sickness infects your brain. Like, if you. Or you can get. You can have dementia from cancer, you can have dementia from trauma, you can have a dementia from like lots of different things. Whereas Alzheimer's is its own
B
Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's is a type of dementia.
A
Yeah. I must say Alzheimer's has dementia. You get dementia from Alzheimer's. So you have like Alzheimer's dementia and then you can get dementia from other stuff too.
B
Yeah. Oh, Alzheimer's is the most common cause of dementia. Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna start doing those, those tests, like, bitch. Every couple years, every two years. Because my mem.
A
You can get dementia from a lot of different stuff. A lot of different stuff. So you gotta test it all damn simplest gives you dementia.
B
This is true. We need to, We. Do you get, do you get colon cancer screenings? Like, we're at the age. We're approaching 40, girl.
A
I am.
B
Well, you were more than me.
A
I, I think 50 is the age we start getting colon cancer screens. No.
B
40, is it?
A
Well, I've never had. I'm not 40 and I've never had a colon cancer screening.
B
I want to talk in a colonics. I heard colonics are so good for you. They're like so good colonics.
A
What do you mean so good?
B
Like you just like they put.
A
I've heard they can be quite dangerous for you.
B
Dangerous? Why? Because it's too much water?
A
No, I think that like a lot of the stuff that your body creates, you, you like knead it in there. Like you need that stuff, you need those enzymes, you need the bacteria. Who, me? Yeah, the colonics are good for you. They're so good for you.
B
I want. I'm on colonic tick tock.
A
Well, that is, that is not a universe.
B
Colonic tick tock.
A
Girl, I'm on calling. Well, I've seen a lot of doctors being like, colonics can be quite bad for you because you need the bacteria and the stuff that you put that your colon creates, and you need that. And you also need. You also need poop in your body. Like, do you know that like there are poop. There are like poop implants or poop transplants you can get. Did you know about this?
B
No.
A
They will take someone else's poop, put it in your colon and it will like clean you and it will like fix you.
B
Well, I mean I think, I think colognes are bad. If you, if you. I've heard of people who get them sutchy bottoms who get them like once a week, that's probably bad. But if you get like a colonic a year, I don't think that or every couple years, I don't think that's bad. But I have seen and heard of bottoms who are like, oh yeah, bitch, I get one every week. And I'm like, that doesn't seem healthy because also you're drinking that fucking liquid. You have to drink that thing like for a whole day to get. That sounds crazy.
A
Your personal objective will determine how many colonics you should have to begin with. It is generally recommended to have three sessions within for 10 to 14 days period to maximize results and clean. This is from gutfithealth.com, which anyone says gut health. I don't something about that word I don't trust. That is a red flag. Gut, the word gut is a, is a red flaggy term for me. If a healthcare practitioner says gut.
B
But your gut health is like this stuff. What do you mean? Why is it weird for you? I just like it sounds weird to you.
A
It sounds like a word I would like for my doctor to use words like colon, large colon, small intestines, large intestines. I don't them being like your gut. Something about that just sounds like someone who got. Who like read some books and, and, and, and watched some Tik Toks. I'm not saying it is what it is, but something about someone being like, yeah, you got a leaky gut. What the you talking about?
B
That's not.
A
No. What part of my gut? My, my small intestines, my large intestines, my colon. What? What do you mean my gut? My stomach. What, what do you mean my gut? What the does that mean you got a leaky gut? Hell to the no.
B
Are you okay? So are you sad? Like personally. Are you personally sad about the queen dying or do you feel anythings about anything? Any feelings?
A
I'm not sad. I am, I am. It feels odd that there's not a queen of England. Like I don't have any memories. I don't have any memories that don't include the Queen of England. Like I've Always known about the Queen of England. Always. As long as I've been alive and as long as my mom's been alive and as long as her mom was alive, like the Queen of England is. She was just so. The Queen of England was born before my grandma, born before my mom's mom. You know what I mean? Who died like 40, not 40. That's not true. I just made that up. 30 something years ago, 29 years ago. 1994, 28 years ago. So I'm not particularly sad. I mean, I don't. I don't like seeing other people sad, you know. But I'm also not really on. On the social media. People who are like, truly. I mean, no. I've seen a few people like post like, things about her. I think I just don't know enough about the Queen of England to be particularly sad about it. But I do think it is sad that people are sad, if that makes any sense. How about you? Are you sad about it?
B
No, I don't feel any types of way about it. I'm like, okay, I'm so far removed from that. I'm not obviously not a monarchist at all. That's not my thing. A lot of that, because I'm American. I've never, you know. But yeah, I don't feel any type. Any types of ways about it. I do think the memes about all the fucking memes of Meghan Markle going to how she gonna be at the funeral and Meghan Markle finding the news. That shit is. That shit is funny.
A
I haven't seen.
B
That shit is funny.
A
I haven't seen those. I've seen a lot of memes about Princess Diana waiting for her at the pearly gates.
B
I've seen one of those. This is what my friend Kenneth, who was very. So it says. It says Meghan Markle giving remarks at the funeral.
A
I can't see it.
B
What is it?
A
Can you explain the. God, She might be the only black person. Only black person at the. At the whole ordeal.
B
No, no, Bob.
A
Oh, you think all the queens other black friends hanging out, all her other black friends coming. Just the reams. The black friends she got.
B
There's that one of that girl from Bad Girls Club, like keeping that one girl out the room. And it's like Princess Diana not letting the Queen into the pearly gate. That shit is so funny.
A
Do you know if the Vivian is a royalist?
B
She's. I don't know. Should we call her. Should I call her on WhatsApp really quick?
A
I mean, I feel like, oh, yeah,
B
it's late over there.
A
Yeah. I also feel like calling people from the UK and being like the Queen's dad. How do you feel? It seems messy. It seems like it. Because if she is sad, I don't want to, like, call her up and be like, hey, your morning. How is that?
B
I mean, I posted on my Twitter, I said, rest in peace, Queen Elizabeth ii. How are Brits doing? And I will say it is. My comments. My comments is all over the place. Every. Every day. It's all over the place.
A
If Whoopi Goldberg died, I would be very sad. I would be very sad. I mean, like, I would be incredibly inconsolable. I don't know, being console, but I'd be very sad. I would probably cry. I would cry. If Whoopi Goldberg died, I would cry 100%. I don't know that I would want anyone calling me, but I'd be like, I am sad. So that's why I don't want to, like, people can, you know, people are probably going to be grieving. So I haven't to ask any of my British friends. I don't have that many British friends. I have like a few. Maybe, like, maybe 10, maybe, you know, Mother Tucker.
B
Mother Tucker.
A
Jimmy. Jamie from Klub, Kids. Andrew. Andrew from Kub. Kids. The Vivian. Okay. I'm not gonna name all my British friends, but I don't have that many.
B
But what's the name? Tilda Taymor Tambor. Tamer.
A
Oh, Tamer British friend. Well, you. Tilder. Tilda Swinton.
B
I lose a tamar. Tambourine. None of that ring a bell, bitch.
A
Tambourine.
B
That's like, God.
A
But I. So I do want to be respectful of their sadness. But I also don't want to act like I'm torn up because I'm.
B
I'm.
A
I'm not torn up. But also I have less contextual. I have less context for the Queen than they do. Clearly.
B
Contextual.
A
I mean, she moved out of Buckingham Palace a while back.
B
Yeah. And when I saw the headline that she was. I didn't think anything of it. They were like, oh, yeah, the Queen is being. She's ill and like the doctors, like, watching over her. And literally the next day, like she did, I was like, oh, damn. Well, I think she just had just like a routine, like cold or something. It wasn't like anything crazy. She just had like a cold or something.
A
I don't think you can die from. I don't think it was. She probably. I mean, they probably aren't Updating everyone on the Queen's health. They were taken on the way. She's probably, she's probably been ill for a while and they just didn't tell anyone. That's.
B
I think the older you are, smaller things like that are dangerous, are more dangerous for you. Like the older you are. A common cold for you and me is not the same as a common cold for my 89 year old grandmother. You know what I mean?
A
I'm not a doctor.
B
I don't know that's true.
A
Okay, I'm not arguing with you. I'm saying I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
B
I don't say you're arguing, I'm just saying it's true.
A
But I mean, I think most people who pass away in older age are usually passing away from something significant or some underlying or usually, or oftentimes quite often heart failure. You know, heart failure is like the number one killer in the world. In the whole world. Heart disease is the number one killer. Isn't that wild? It's not wild because it's pumping the blood throughout your whole body. It is the generator for your body.
B
Sergeant talks about it a lot on the View. She had a heart scare and she became a really big star Jones and she became a really big proponent of people taking care of their heart health and making sure especially for women because they're big in numbers for women for whatever reason. And she was a very big champion of that.
A
How long do you want to live? How long is too long? How long do you like. All right, this is enough. This is too.
B
I want to live when I have to be. When I can't do anything for myself, I'm good. Like when I can't like eat my own food or when I have to, like bed.
A
What if we can eat your own food next year? What if something happens? You can eat your own food next year. Are you ready to die?
B
With age? I'm talking about with age. I think with age, like if I, if I'm like, if I'm. If the older I get and I can't like do anything for myself, people have. I would feel so bad if people had to like wait on me all the time.
A
But where does the, where does the age and ability cross over? Like if you lose all your functions at 50, is that old enough? 60, is that old enough?
B
I think maybe like 75. But like I've seen like again, like my grandmother, she's 89 years old, she can cook her own food. She like, she's fine. Like I'm like, I'll be. I'll be content with that for sure.
A
But I'm talking about. I'm talking about. I'm just wondering where the. You said 75 is around. So if you were, like, 60 and you lost a lot of your.
B
I would say, like, I was, like, 80, 85. If I, like, lost most of. Most of my friends, like, 80, around the 80 age, I'll be like, all right, you know what? It's been a good run. Also, I'm 32 now. I'm just thinking about, like, how the world is gonna be so different in, like, by. When I'm that age. Like, who maybe. I mean, I don't know. With advancements in technology, there's probably some next year. I don't know. I don't know. There's, like, so many variables.
A
I think that it's easy to say when you're 32. You know what I mean? But, for example, I have a mom who can't live alone and needs help to do most things, and she doesn't want to die. She's not like, I had a good run. My mom will be 60 in October, and I'm sure that my mom is. Still. Has a very strong will to live, even though she has a very limited mobility and can't do a whole lot of stuff for herself. So a lot of young people say a lot of, like, well, if I'm this old, when I can't do this, I just won't want to do anything. But when you're there, you'll probably still be like, I still got life to live. I still got stuff I want to do. You know what I mean? There is.
B
I hope I'm there, but I don't know.
A
Yeah, you never know. But I'm just basing it off. I'm just assuming, you know, basing off of a lot of people who. You know, a lot of times, like, a lot of times, you know, people who end up having, like, issues later in life with their health, it's because, like, one thing happens, and then your body is just so old, it's hard to recover. So, like, you know, thank God your grandma never fell and hit her hip. But, you know, one.
B
She fell recently. Oh, my God. She fell two years ago. And the kid. She fell in her kitchen, in her house.
A
She break her. No. That's really tough.
B
She didn't break her head, but she fell. And then she's there for a while, and my dad discovered her. That's why she. They moved her to my mom's. House. But she's fault. That's why. That's why we don't know how to live by ourselves anymore.
A
But like a ball can really drastically change someone's life. I mean, like your mental state, your everything, the tiniest things can render you a lot less mobile than you were beforehand, you know what I mean?
B
Yeah.
A
But you still got wisdom in life and joy. You can still laugh and smile and all that kinds of stuff, you know.
B
Well, this is a very, you know, I've heard this talk, you know, again, rest in peace to Queen Elizabeth ii also really quick, like, his mom has just passed away, but he has like all these like again and procedural things that he has to do to take over the throne. I'm like, he can't even probably like properly process his mom dying. He has to like, get it together and like, be a figurehead for the United Kingdom. That's probably such a wild thing.
A
This is what every monarch has to do when they assume the throne. Because they all assume the throne when someone dies. I mean, Queen Elizabeth did this in her 20s.
B
Yeah.
A
Wow. And this man is in his 70s. Imagine doing this in your 20s and you are becoming the Queen of England.
B
The Queen of England, darling. Anyway, Roberta, you have a good rest of your night and we'll chat soon.
A
All right?
B
Be well. Bing.
Date: September 14, 2022
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
This episode of Sibling Rivalry brings Bob and Monét together just days after Queen Elizabeth II's passing at age 96. The duo chat about public versus homeschooling, corporal punishment, sewing, and, most notably, reflect on the Queen’s death and the British monarchy’s legacy. The conversation blends their signature comedic banter with personal anecdotes and social commentary, digging into topics around colonialism, restorative justice, and what it means to mourn a figure as polarizing as Queen Elizabeth.
Trends in Uniqueness: The hosts open by mocking the modern school tendency to promote everyone’s “uniqueness,” questioning the cult of specialness in American education.
Homeschooling Debate:
Corporal Punishment Stories:
Coverage Saturation:
[17:23] Monét predicts British TV will be “wall-to-wall Queen funeral.”
A Changing World:
Bob and Monét address the social media split—particularly among Black communities—around making jokes and critiquing the Queen after her death.
The duo agree that refusing to critique someone—especially a figure of historical consequence—just because they passed is misguided.
The hosts riff on mourning, individuality in processing grief, and the performative aspects forced onto royal family members.
Brief aside about famous memes comparing mourning styles, with Bob noting the internet’s penchant for humor in dark times.
Bob and Monét share anxieties about aging—Alzheimer’s, dementia, and how family history colors their outlooks.
Extended chat about colon health, TikTok trends, and medical skepticism (“gut” vs. medical terminology for the digestive tract).
The duo respect British grief but don’t relate emotionally, finding more connection to their social circles and U.S.-centric pop culture figures.
Most emotional connection is reserved for hypothetical U.S. pop culture losses.
On Math & Sewing
On the Queen’s Legacy
On Aging
Bob and Monét blend irreverence and sincerity, using comedy to broach weighty topics like colonialism, restorative justice, and death. While riffing humorously on everything from corporal punishment to sewing, the dialogue maintains awareness of historic injustices and present-day sensitivities, especially around the monarchy.
For listeners looking to reflect on recent history, laugh, and unpick mainstream narratives about the monarchy, this episode offers a sharp, honest, and relatable conversation.