The One About Respect

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – “The One About Respect”

Date: April 15, 2024
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dissect the concept of respect—who deserves it, how it's bestowed, and why it's sometimes withheld. The duo navigates personal stories, pop culture, diva discourse, and social commentary, making for a hilarious, insightful conversation. Tangents abound, from surprise appearances at Madonna concerts to TSA mishaps, evolving definitions of “diva,” and whether everyone really deserves respect.

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Surprise at the Madonna Concert (03:24 – 12:19)

• Monét recounts surprising Bob at the Madonna Celebration World Tour in Tampa, as the special Vogue guest.
  • They hilariously realize they were staying in adjacent hotel rooms, trying to avoid running into each other:
    Monét: “I was on the third floor. I was in room 340. What room were you, bitch?”
    Bob: “341.” (07:24–07:29)
  • Monét shares the anxiety of sneaking past the front desk:
    "I'm literally... my name is... my name is Monét X Change... I feel like this is a prayer." – Monét (07:40–08:24)
• Bob describes juggling the night's excitement with looking after his 17-year-old brother, who was experiencing firsts: flying alone, going to a concert, seeing Bob perform (12:13).
• Reflection on experiences as large Black men being treated as adults during youth and the challenges for Black boys at airports (12:42–15:09).

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Family, Body Image, and Roasting (16:02 – 19:28)

• Both share how their families weren’t the “roasting” type—supportive humor, but never attacking each other's looks (18:23–18:44).
• A discussion on childhood body image and family teasing leads to reflections on when they became self-aware about weight, and the differences in family cultures around humor about appearance.

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Modern Divas and Pop Culture (19:39 – 34:26)

• Segment: Divas 2 – Who’s a diva in 2024?
  "The motherfucking debate of the century, honey." – Bob (19:39)
• J.Lo's Controversies: Why is Jennifer Lopez getting roasted online? Bob and Monét laugh about J.Lo’s “cringey” Bronx nostalgia and dubious “orange drink” claims (20:31–21:31).
• The semantics of “diva”—how it's shifted from powerhouse vocalists with attitude to represent iconic, influential women (and a few men) in entertainment, regardless of genre (33:07).
  • "We're kind of redefining diva as... iconic woman or feminine figure in the world of entertainment." – Bob (33:11)
• Diva Candidates:
  • Ice Spice: Monét doesn't see "diva."
  • Cardi B, Megan Thee Stallion, Doja Cat: Bob thinks, "They're already on their way, to be honest." (29:46–29:57)
  • Billie Eilish: Bob—"hands down," Monét is unconvinced about her "diva" vibe.
  • Lizzo: Both agree she's on course ("She quit—big I quit status," Monét, 30:56) but note the complexities of public image in the social media era.

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Notable and Hilarious Quotes

• Bob on his unexpected hormone results:
  “I apparently have the estrogen levels of a cisgender woman, which should not surprise anyone because I’m incredibly cunt.” (23:16)
• Monét on fan interactions:
  “You ever get the little thing of, you're from Drag Race, right? From that point on, I'm like, I, I, I'm... you have no idea who I am, and you don't really want to.” (48:53)
• Bob on family support:
  “We don't make fun of anyone for being fat or short, even... We have some shorties in my family, believe it or not.” (17:57)
• Bob on “red M&Ms” and the reputation for diva behavior:
  “I still stand firmly that asking for red M&Ms is not diva behavior... it’s to make sure they’re paying attention to your rider.” (26:40)
• On respect:
  “I don't believe everyone deserves respect. If someone's values don't align with yours... you don't have to (respect them).” – Bob (36:20)

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Evolving Definitions of Respect (36:25 – 44:20)

• Deep-dive: Does everyone really deserve respect?
  • Bob: “I don’t think we are owed each other’s respect. It’s certainly nice to give it, but…” (36:25–36:40)
  • Monét: “That's a no brainer. I'm not respecting like a racist.” (36:40)
• They debate where the threshold lies—active slurs, systemic discrimination, and the nuances between intention, impact, and the capacity for growth (37:52–39:46).
• Bob argues for seeing racism as a condition that can be unlearned and objects to labelling people as irredeemably racist, pushing for self-reflection and empathy.

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When Hosts Lose Their Cool (43:43 – 48:15)

• Both admit moments when they’ve lost their temper (hotels, airlines, stress) and how respect can lapse in frustration:
  • Monét: “When I get to a hotel and they don't have my room... I am being short and curt.” (43:13)
  • Bob: “...the next day I came back and said, ‘I want to apologize...’ I didn’t like how I was behaving.” (41:42–42:35)
• Customer service horror stories, impromptu bits (“Shouldn’t you be minding your fucking business?”), and challenges of traveling as queer Black entertainers.

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Fan Interactions & Celebrity Mix-Ups (48:15 – 55:00)

• Hilarious, awkward recounting of fans who don’t actually know who they are; strategies for handling mistaken identity, especially when Monét is called "Ms. J" from America’s Next Top Model (49:41–50:23).
• Monét and Bob discuss the etiquette of recognizing celebrities and why they (usually) don’t approach them, even those they admire (51:57–53:44).

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Random Tangents and Wild Moments

• Freak accidents and fight stories (losing fingers to rings, knockouts on buses) highlight dangers of conflict and why Bob avoids fights at all costs (57:01—60:59).
  • “Racism is a condition... you have to unlearn... when you just label someone, you’re unsalvageable.” – Bob (39:46)
• Monét’s obsession with wigs from TikTok Shop and fake testicles in "Sex and the City" (62:15–63:06).
• Deep dive (literally) into what a real testicle looks like—spoiler: “They're not cute.” (63:44–64:08)

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Final Thoughts & Upcoming Shows (64:08–65:31)

• Love you’s exchanged ("I love you too, Roberta.”).
• Bob previews tour dates: Brazil Copacabana show will be free and massive (“over a million people expected,” 64:43).
• They anticipate who Madonna’s next guest might be—shout-outs to Pabllo Vittar and Grag Queen (“so hot,” 65:12).

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Surprise at Madonna: 03:24–12:19
• Family, Body Image & Roasting: 16:02–19:28
• Modern Divas Debate: 19:39–34:26
• Redefining Respect: 36:25–44:20
• Celebrity Mix-Ups & Fan Etiquette: 48:15–55:00
• Fight Stories & Accidents: 57:01–60:59
• Farewells & Tour News: 64:08–65:31

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Episode Tone

Fast-paced, irreverent, and heartfelt, this episode captures Bob and Monét’s signature chemistry. Both bounce between deep social insights and absurdist humor, creating a space that’s as educational as it is uproariously funny.

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Best for:
Listeners curious about community, the evolving landscape of pop culture, and how to serve respect—with a side of shade.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Please do not forget to come see us on May 5th at the Netflix's Joke Comedy Festival in Los Angeles, California.

[Monet X Change]

And then we're doing Sibling Rivalry live in San Diego on June 7. A summer of siblings. Sounds fabulous to me. Okay. Okay, y', all, this is Monet X Change. This is not a drill. This is not a drill. My US tour of my hit Edinburgh Fringe Festival show Life Be Life and is coming across America, baby. We're coming to Seattle, Portland, Denver, Salt Lake City, Tucson, Asheville, Atlanta, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C. and San Francisco starting April 30, all the way through May 19. Y', all, I am so beyond proud of this show. It's so dope, it's so fierce. And I want you guys to all experience it. So please go to monetexchangelive.com and get tickets to see my hit One Woman Show Life Be Lifein about, you know, darkly humorous, poignant, coming of age sangin one woman Show. You don't wanna miss it. I'll see y' all there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is simply rival.

[Monet X Change]

On this week's episode, I surprised Bob at the Madonna concert.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We talk about R A S B E C E T. Sounds good.

[Monet X Change]

And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I apparently have the estrogen levels of a cisgender woman, which should not surprise anyone because I'm incredibly cunt. And we find out what made Monet Say this.

[Monet X Change]

This episode of Sex and the City, the fake balls, they're like. They're silicone balls and they're not glass. I was like, what if I wanted glass ones? Could I get a glass one? Wait, so it has this dimple. Have you never. Is this a new dimple?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, this is not. Do you see it?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I see it. Right there on your bottom, right under your lip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. Yeah, that's odd.

[Monet X Change]

Are you sure? Do dimples. Does that happen? Do dimples just form over time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never seen that.

[Monet X Change]

I can't say I have or have. I can't confirm or deny. I don't know if I've seen it before or not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I spent a lot of time looking at my face, a lot of time looking at my face, and I have never seen that. That is new. Monet, what a wonderful surprise. So today is April 5th. I am in Miami, Florida, and last night I was in Tampa, Florida, and Monet x Change surprised me last night at the. The Celebration World Tour. She was the Vogue guest. And I remember at one point during my husband being like, I don't know who the Vogue guest is. And normally Jordan, one of Madonna's. Someone from Madonna's management team, normally comes up to me and is like, oh, the Vogue guest is so and so. Especially if it's. Especially if it's a queen. No matter who is, he always tells me, and if it's a queen, he's like, do you mind if they come by? And depending on who it is, I said, just kidding.

[Monet X Change]

I've never said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never said no. I've never said no.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Gottmik has something different to say on Twitter. Cause she lit your ass up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true, guy. Mickey's been in my dressing room twice. Twice. She came back with Violet, and she

[Monet X Change]

came back by herself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I know that's not true. But anyway, it was such a wonderful surprise. If y' all want to see my reaction to Monet surprising me on stage, it is on Monet's Instagrizal. We can actually post it here. Post it here.

[Monet X Change]

Here it is. Yeah, you'll post it in here. So what had happened was a few weeks ago, they asked me to do the Houston shows, but I was just coming back from London. I had a thing with Lincoln Center New York, so it didn't work out. And then. So then my manager, like, on Monday, today's Friday, on Monday, he was like, hey, they're looking these for Tampa. Would you like to do it? I was like, yeah. I was like, under one condition, though. I was like, bob can't know. He was like our manager, which I shouted him out on Trixie's podcast. Trixie and Katya's podcast. I don't know what it is. Bob. I am obsessed with David Charpentier. I love him so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's wonderful.

[Monet X Change]

He is. So I'm just obsessed with David. Anyway, so he's like, if you don't

[Bob the Drag Queen]

know, David is one of the owners of pg, which is our management company. And what makes David particularly charming, that he. He's very monotone.

[Monet X Change]

He's also very honest and very blunt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. So when I first met David, he. I was like. He was like, I want to sign you. And I was like, well, I want you to come to my show first. Like, I don't want you to time me without coming to my show. He was kind of giving off Bianca's word. And I was like, but I want you to see me. And he was like, okay. So he came to the show. It was on Monday night at Barracuda, but it was kind of packed, so I didn't see him. And then the next day, we sat down at what was that restaurant where it was all themed with, like, divas in the bathrooms, like Dolly Parton and Beyonce and Janet Jackson.

[Monet X Change]

There was one Vinyl. Vinyl. Vinyl, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We met at Vinyl. And he was like, you were really great last night. So good. Very funny. And I was like, are you, like, making fun of me? I think, no, it was great. So good. So good.

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you I remember that moment, too? Because I remember after you had that meeting, I met with you at your house, and you were telling me the story. You were like, yeah, he was just saying, I vividly remember meeting up with you after that, you being like, what was that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, so good. Great job. Did a really good job. It was like that. It was more like this. You did a great job. It was really good. You were amazing. It was a very funny show. I had so much fun.

[Monet X Change]

Anyways. Yeah. So I was like, oh. I was like. I was like. I was like, I only do it if. If, like, Bob doesn't know. And it's a surprise. He's like, well, I think. I think we can make that happen. So, like, back and forth, back and forth. And they're like, yes. So Madonna had flew me out, I got food out. They put me up. But then when we're getting there, I was like, oh. Literally, as we're pulling up, I was like. I looked at To Ty My assistant. I'm like, tyler, wait. Bob is probably the same hotel. Like, what if he's here? So, Bitch, we are trying to. We are sneaking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What time did you arrive?

[Monet X Change]

I arrived at like three.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was there.

[Monet X Change]

You were there? You were at the hotel?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, on the third floor.

[Monet X Change]

Girl, I want to. I was on the third floor. I was in room 340. What room were you, bitch?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

341.

[Monet X Change]

Bob. Shut. Bob, you're lying. Shut the fuck up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was in room 341 at the Alba Hotel in Tampa, Florida. Right next to you in the room where it happened.

[Monet X Change]

So we go into the thing and bitch, we are like trying to sneak around. I'm like, the fucking front desk. The lady's trying to check me. And I'm like, shh. I'm like. I'm like, my name is. My name is Oneae X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch, who you, Tina Turner? All I have is a bus pass. $3.47. But if you will give me a room tonight, I promise I will pay you back. Did you Angela Basset? And what's Love Got to Do With It? And then I don't know if.

[Monet X Change]

Because I was hyper aware. I feel like she was screaming my name. Cuz she couldn't find my name. Cuz they couldn't find my boy name. I said my boy name. Kevin Burton. She couldn't find that. She was like. I was like, okay, try Monet X Change. She's like, monet X Change. I was like. And I was like. I was like, I feel like this is a prayer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like. The birds flew out of the trees.

[Monet X Change]

Literally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The water troubled. And I was. The prairie dog went.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like, Monet exchange. M, O, N, E, T, space, the letter X space. Change. She would be fine. It was under my stage name. Go check into the room. And then I'm in my room and not even knowing you're next to me. I'm literally. Cause Jay had called me. So I'm talking to Jay. I'm like. Cause I like, I talk on speaker. I don't like putting the phone to my head. I'm like, j, you can't yell though. Cause I don't know what room Bob is in and blah blah, blah. So I was like on high alert. So I didn't see you. I even went to the gym. But I was like. Because I wanted to. I knew I was gonna go downstage. I wanted to. I felt bloated, so I needed to do some cardio. I was like, I hope Bob's not In the gym.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, I don't go to the hotel gym.

[Monet X Change]

I go to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I go to. You know, I go to the. Well, I don't want to give them a shout out, but I go to that one gym that you don't like because the color is too aggressive.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, got it. Well, Bob, you literally. Oh, well, I guess. No, and then. So, yeah, so then we get there, we get to the thing, and then they put me in, like, the dj. Me and the DJ shared a dressing room because they didn't want to put me somewhere else. And I had to be like, contained in this room. Well, hey, I don't think I'd be able to just walk around backstage in any reality, but I was in this room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you can kind of walk around backstage. I mean, not like totally freely, but normally Jordan will escort you around and they treat the guests really, really nicely.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know if I was. I don't know because I was trying to keep it a secret. I was like, bitch. I was like, bitch, damn, can I go somewhere else? And then. And then. So Detox and Roxxxy were also there with also Sassy Divine. So I was chilling with them in the Risers, but they didn't want me to go out because, spoiler alert, if you're gonna see the tour. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert. Three, two, one. Bob starts the show from the audience. And you walk through the audience, he was like, I don't wanna bring you up before Bob is on stage. Cause he might see. Did you see Detox and then when you came out? Well, I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So my little brother was there, right?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, your little brother was there too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And put a picture of me and my little brother here. Jay. My little brother was there, which was so just. I was so happy that he was there. So I was actually looking for my little brother the whole time, but he was also sitting and I was like looking for him. Oh, he was so sweet and so cute.

[Monet X Change]

How old are you little brother?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

17. 17.

[Monet X Change]

17.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, he's 17 years old and he kind of looks like a light skinned version of me.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, while you put you. I was. Oh, so sorry. Back at the hotel where I'm getting ready, I'm painting everything on the other thing. And then Bob calls me to talk about something and he's like, oh, my little brother's here. Let me FaceTime you. I was like, fuck. And then I was like, cause if I get on FaceTime, he's gonna recognize the fucking hotel. So the FaceTime calls me, and I'm talking to Bob like this. The phone is at the ceiling. I'm like, ceilings are nondescript. No one knows a fucking ceiling, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the ceiling at the fucking album.

[Monet X Change]

But then I. Talking to you, and then you go, why, you getting a drag? What are you doing? I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, bitch, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I work.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sitting home doing nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like, I normally know when you're. But I know your schedule is on the Internet. It's not a secret, B. Tch.

[Monet X Change]

Same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I was like, what are you doing? Like, you're not on. You're not doing your. You're not doing. Your tour hasn't started yet.

[Monet X Change]

You almost said. You almost said your little tour. You almost said your little tour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You almost said it.

[Monet X Change]

I heard it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I didn't. But I didn't.

[Monet X Change]

And I was like, I'm in Salt Lake City doing a gig tonight. I'm like, oh, okay. And I was like, thank God he didn't press forward with it. Cause Bob is. Bob is such a loose cannon sometimes. He'd be like, monet, why is the phone like that? Put it, like. Put the phone regular. I thought it would develop into a whole thing, but thank God it didn't. And then. So when they brought me by the side stage, I was like, wait, he walks past this way, right? He's like, yeah. I was like, okay, I'm gonna crouch all the way down so I can hide. So you. I was like, because you never see my outfit before, but I feel like you would. Maybe you recognize the wig? I don't know, because I wear that wig a lot. So I was, like, crouching down so he didn't see it. And then he was recording. And then I. Surprised.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I was very preoccupied with my brother being there. So I think that was a big part of why I was just so not aware. And I was just trying to make sure that he was having a good time. And that was his first time on a plane. It was his first time at a concert. That was his first time in Florida. That was the first time seeing me perform. That was a lot of firsts for him. My brother's from Mississippi, a small town called Booneville, Mississippi.

[Monet X Change]

So did you. So did he fly back this morning?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, this morning, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Cute. Did he just come by himself? Well, he's 17. He'll fly by himself at 17.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, he flew by himself, yeah. But. But we were, like, helping him get. Get. Because he had never been to the Airport. We were like, this is how you do it. This is how you. I was. I was talking to him about. Cause I like when you. When you are a large black man or a black. A large black boy, should I say he would treat you like a big black man. So I like, pretty much from like 13, I had no. From strangers. I didn't have any little boy experiences. They just assumed I was a man since I was like 13 years old, so. And I was so annoyed because I was. I felt like my little brother was getting the same treatment. He's 17, he's a minor. I mean, he's a. He's an older teenager, but he is still a. But he's not an adult, you know what I mean? So he went to the airport. He was like, by the way, he'd never been to it. This is his second time, second flight. This is the flight back home. So he was like, I don't know. He was like, I don't know how to get my ticket. And I was like, oh, just go to the gate agent. They'll give you a ticket. Just show them your id. Show them your driver's license, and they'll give you a ticket. He goes, okay. He was like, they told me to go to the, to the, to the machine. And I was like, go to the gate and say, I am a minor, I've never flown, I need help. But he had to go through all that. Just them to not be like, go to the machine.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, well, everything is so automated now, especially fucking. I'm sorry. United and American, they're the worst Delta. Like, you can still get in a line to talk to someone. Regard like, United and American, they're like, uh, go to the machine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I say this? I feel like you people who work there, y' all were given like maybe a week of training on the machine.

[Monet X Change]

It is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm tired, sleepy. It's is five o' clock in the morning and I have no training. I'm at the machine. Like, what is what? Who goes where? I am typing in my own name. I am checking myself in. I am tagging my own bags, taking the bag to the conveyor belt, putting it on the belt.

[Monet X Change]

It's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you doing?

[Monet X Change]

And then now you can tip them. You ever seen this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tip the ones who are. Who. Who aren't doing anything.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. When you do the, like, the person that helps you, it gives you an option to tip them on the machine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They swivel the iPad around, they turn that iPad around on you, and then

[Monet X Change]

you then you then you have to find your fucking confirmation number that is the most random set of letters, like qb, Z. Like, it is a lot to finagle. Oh, my God. For his second time ever. That's crazy. Crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But he. But he went to the. He was like, I'm a minor. I need help. And they're like, oh, okay, okay.

[Monet X Change]

Cute. He was so sweet. When I walked to the riser, I. Because he was sitting there, I was like. I was like. I was like, oh, my God. Hi. I was like, first of all, I'm just big in his face. I'm like, hi, I'm Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nice to meet you.

[Monet X Change]

And I was like, don't text Bob and tell him here. It's a surprise.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And he's like, okay. Well, he didn't. Well, you didn't. He didn't sit up. He's very tall.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he was sitting down. I didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's always sitting. He never stands up. He always. He always sits down. I think he's maybe. I don't know what it is, but he. Yeah, he's my height. He's maybe a little bit shorter than me. And it really seems to upset him that he's shorter than me. He's like, I want to be taller than you. And I was like, okay, well, then maybe you will be. I mean, I'm done growing, so you probably still got some more years on you. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

2017. You stopped growing at, like, 22. So he will be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I stopped growing at 14.

[Monet X Change]

You haven't been six' two since 14.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Seventh grade.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. That's 12.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, then 12. I've been the same height since I was 12 years old.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And my feet have also stopped growing. My feet stopped growing also when I was 12. I wear a size 12, and my feet.

[Monet X Change]

I.

[Commercial Narrator]

My.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was wearing a size 12 at the age of 12. And my. My shoe size, my height, the exact same. I've certainly expanded over the years, honey.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know when I stopped growing. I don't remember when I reached. When I became 5, 10 and 3 quarters forever. I do not remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm screaming at three quarters. We. I was. I was six foot two and I was 125 pounds in seventh grade.

[Monet X Change]

How do you know your weight? Why was you weighing yourself in middle school?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You didn't know your weight.

[Monet X Change]

I did not. I did not stop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't stop. And we had a scale or we also had PE where you had to weigh yourself for your physical.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we had. Girl, I told You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were happy. I forgot y' all don't have pe. That's crazy. Yeah. So in Georgia, you have to weigh yourself, and you have to do a physical fitness test once a year.

[Monet X Change]

And everybody in the. Everybody in your class be knowing your weight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you know, your own way. They don't shout it out to the class. But when you go back, everyone asks you, how much do you weigh? How tall are you?

[Monet X Change]

But also, at that age, you're not, like. You're not like, oh, my God, I'm fat. Or maybe you are. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But some people are. I mean, I was. I was. I was very. I was absurdly skinny. So that was. I was not having that conversation.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know when I became aware of my body and, like, being like, oh, my God, I'm fat. I feel like. I feel like my family used to, like, make, like, little, fat, chubby jokes about me, but I don't. I feel like I didn't. I didn't. I didn't, like, wasn't like, oh, my God, like, obsessed about it. Maybe not until, like, high school. Like, maybe, like, 10th grade, I was like, oh, I'm fat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just asked my mom, because I was a chubby kid. I was 95 pounds in kindergarten. I just asked my mom, do you think I'm going to be fat? And she go, no, no, no. And then by seventh grade, she's like, oh, I thought she was going to be fat. It was hard to lie to you every day.

[Monet X Change]

Did your family do, like, little jokes about, like, stuff like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I would tell you after this break.

[Monet X Change]

And cracktion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Welcome back, everyone. You know, I. My family didn't really make a lot of jokes about each other's physical appearance. We don't make fun of anyone for being fat or short even. We have some short people in my family. Believe it or not, there are some shorties in my family. And, no, we don't. We didn't make fun of anyone for being. For anyone's appearance in my family.

[Monet X Change]

Do y', all, like. Were y', all, like, a roasting family, though? Like, would y', all, like, roast each other?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. We would. We would. We make jokes at each other's expense, but it's, like, circumstantial things. It'll be like everyone's laughing about something that's happening to Justin right now in this moment. But it's not like, you ugly ass fucking. Yeah, like, never that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we're the same. We weren't. Yeah, yeah, I would agree. We Weren't. We weren't like a roasting family. Like. Like, you see these families that are, like, roasting each other. And honestly, that sounds like a lot of fun and probably builds a lot of character, but we weren't. We were not a roasting family.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I have friendships like that and. But I don't think my friendships also. We're also not roasting each other based on each other's physical appearance. No one's like, you ugly or you fat or you anything like that. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But we do give each other a hard time. Especially. Especially if you, like, do something stupid or you. Or you do something outrageous or something like that, or if you make a absurd, you know, decision. We will definitely let. Let you have it on. On that front, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

I'm going to let you have it. Let's have a tiki.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, there was something I want to tell you, but I can't remember. We don't have a talk today, do we? Are we going? Are we going?

[Monet X Change]

Are we going?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can send you my list of topics. I was going to do divas, too, because we did divas a while ago. And it seemed apropos because we're talking about Madonna, but we could also just wing it as usual. Those are always cute episodes, you know. It's time for divas to Monet. It's time for divas to the. The motherfucking debate of the century, honey. So there is a Latin music diva who is getting the business on the Internet.

[Monet X Change]

Girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're letting her have it.

[Monet X Change]

It's kind of wild. It's kind of wild. And I'm like, what did she do to upset people so, so bad? Like, I just. I just. Like, I woke up one day and it was just all over Instagram and Tick Tock, just roasting this. Talking about roasting. They are roasting the. Out of her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently. She's not nice. Okay. I think. I think there's a couple things. One, she's. She's cringy. So Jennifer Lopez is cringy. How? The video of her with her hair out, she's like, this is how I used to run around in the Bronx when I was 16. A crazy girl. Just a crazy girl running up and down the block. Just so crazy. And a girl and the block. Like, she's like a lot of that. And then also they're like, what's something else New Yorkers say? She goes, fuck you.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't see that one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you heard about her bodega order? I told you about it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but. And I don't remember, like, what's so crazy about that. That's, like, what she gets from the fucking bodega.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But she was like, and I get that orange drink. You know what I'm talking about? No, if you know, you know, I get orange drink. If you know, you know.

[Monet X Change]

Well, maybe she's from a different generation. Maybe they call it orange drink in her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, a lot of folks in their 50s were being like, we don't know what she's talking about. I'm from the Bronx. I'm from the same block she's on. And I don't know what the fuck an orange drink is. And I'm in my 50s, and I'm from the same block as Jennifer Lopez.

[Monet X Change]

And also. But in New York, we don't call it orange. We don't call anything like. That's a Southern thing. Like purple drink or orange drink. We don't call it that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Purple drink isn't really a thing. It's kind of a thing. You would call the jugs by their color because their flavors are so nondescript, especially the red ones. You can't tell if it's cherry, if it's watermelon. Sometimes watermelon is green, and you can't tell if it's strawberry. So sometimes you call those. And you. And you do call red Kool Aid, red Kool Aid, because tropical punch is red, cherry is red, and again, strawberry is red.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. But purple drink is kind of a thing, but not really a thing, if that makes any sense. But red Kool Aid is a thing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Red Kool a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What flavor Kool Aid do you like? Red.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Red for sure. For sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And red is the best flavor.

[Monet X Change]

Kool Aid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But the thing about tropical punch Kool Aid is, like, every other Kool Aid is great when you take it out of the pack, like, when you dip your finger in, you get a sour little tangle tingle, just straight from. And I mean. I don't mean the. I don't mean the tub with the sugar. I mean just the straight up. Just the pipe you have to add the sugar to. Every flavor is great when you dip your finger in. Except tropical punch. Tropical punch, you cannot do that and get the same sensation that you get from other Kool Aid mixes.

[Monet X Change]

I wasn't a big Kool Aid drinker growing up. Like, we drink Tang a lot. I did a lot of Tang, but not Kool Aid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I loved Kool Aid growing up. We drank a lot of Kool Aid. I've not made a. I've not made a jug of Kool Aid in literally in years.

[Monet X Change]

Should we start back doing it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. I'm pre diabetic, so I'm like, getting my blood work done every day, like a couple of times a week to try to get my body back in some sort of functioning shape. I told you. I don't know if I've shared this with the world yet.

[Monet X Change]

What.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I went to the doctor and they were like, your estrogen levels are very high. Like, I have the. I apparently have the estrogen levels of a cisgender woman, which should not surprise anyone because I'm incredibly kind. So I don't think anyone is shocked by that bit of information.

[Monet X Change]

And what does that do, having high estrogen? Like, what does that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause it makes you. This is. By the way, this is what the doctor said. I'm not. I'm not the one saying this. It can make you quite emotional. It can make you hold weight more easily. It can give you low energy, and it can have. It could also make you make, like, working out harder. And not only working out harder, but also, like, getting results from it harder as well.

[Monet X Change]

So is this. So now are you. Because of high estrogen levels and someone assigned male at birth causes that or they're saying that's what a high estrogen level does in anyone, no matter what their assignment birth?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Well, maybe it's. I don't know. I don't know the answer to that question, but I think it's maybe because my testosterone levels were low but not like, they were just like, low but not like below average, just on the low end of average. And my estrogen level was like, insanely high. So then I started taking this medicine to fucking try to fix my hormones.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So now I'm on, like, the hormone therapy. Turn it, turn it. About to be 40. Gang, gang. Everyone get it, get into it.

[Monet X Change]

Did the tranos. Did Kerry Colby get a hold of you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess so. I am on some version of hormone therapy right now, trying to get my hormones back in order. So, you know, gang, gang, you know,

[Monet X Change]

like, obviously, because obviously.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also I had high cholesterol too. So I was. So I'm trying to, like, that's a lot. And I'm. And I'm pre diabetic. There's a lot going on that I'm trying to align and adjust. So to answer your question, no, I do not think I need to get back into making Kool Aid.

[Monet X Change]

That was a roundabout way to get an answer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not. Not that that stopped me from eating an entire pack of sour punch straws today, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Sour punch straws.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Slap.

[Monet X Change]

That was my favorite thing to get from the booty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're on my writer. They're on my writer. Now on the Madonna tour, I get one of these to show oh, Shaq.

[Monet X Change]

But, you know, I don't need to be putting shit like that on my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I only do, like, two or three shows a week, so it's not crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I know. But if you see you giving me ideas of things I can put on my rider. Cause I only have basic on my writer. I have Greek yogurt, I have water, I have seltzer, and I have something bananas. That's what I have on my writer. But I don't need to be putting anything crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My writer's pretty plain, too. And part of it. Cause I don't want junk food in my room. But I found myself going to the dancer's room and to the production office, into the kids rooms, looking for candy. But kids, the kids don't eat candy, so whatever. But I found myself going to, like, every other room, like, looking for candy. I was like, this is absurd. This is, like, every day, I'm like. I'm like, I don't no candy in my room. But I'm, like, literally scavenging for candy every day. And they're like, you here for candy? I'm like, yes, I'm here for candy. And I'm, like, rummaging through the people's desk and shit and going to the dancer's room. They be like, you don't come here and say, hey, you don't hang out. You just walk to the table and just start eating Reese's. Reese's pizzas.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. So I guess. I guess our writers are not very diverific. Like, our writers are pretty tame.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I also want to go back again and let you all know that I still stand firm. I know we're not going to rehash this completely. I still stand firmly that asking for red M and Ms. Is not diva behavior. Because so what? I didn't tell you guys this before. When you ask for something like red M and Ms, you're not asking for a gallon of red M and Ms. All you need to do is just buy one pack of M and Ms. And take out the red M and Ms. And put them in a small bowl. And the reason you're doing this, to make sure they're paying attention to your rider. So if you walk into the room and there's a small bowl of red M&Ms. You don't have to check anything else. There's no need to check anything else because you know it's all going to be done because they paid attention to this very, very small detail. Otherwise you have to, like, check each thing. Do I have. Do they have this? Do they have this? Mine has, like, a protein shake, some bananas, tea, Red Bull water, and black towels and makeup wipes. But now I. But Madonna, I've added these sour punch straws and a bag of chips that

[Monet X Change]

I love and a white kitten.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

N. Wow.

[Monet X Change]

I literally just had a thought. I was going to say. And I literally, as I, I, I threw myself off. I seen the white kitten.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cobaloba.

[Monet X Change]

You were saying that you have only a writer. Writer. What?

[Commercial Narrator]

Geez.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was saying he doesn't have candy. He's looking for candy. He doesn't.

[Monet X Change]

He keeps his. It's gone. It's gone. It is. It is. Neck down the street. It's gone. Gone, gone, gone, gone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why were you dragging Kova? Red M and Ms. Are not diva behavior.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't remember. I really don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why won't you try ginkgo biloba?

[Monet X Change]

I don't say I won't try it. I just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just keep forgetting to get it.

[Monet X Change]

But is it like. Do I have to go to a doctor for it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, they sell. It's. You can get it from the herbs section of cvs and it really works. I mean, I don't, I don't have these, these brain farts. So I don't take ginkgo biloba. No, but I don't have. I don't. I don't need to, like, I don't have this, this, this thing that you're having.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I get really. I get really worried about myself with the memory thing. Like, I, I know we like Kiki about it. It's very, it's very concerning.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, take some kinko biloba. Do something about it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you're right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I think if you're having it this young, it's probably not an issue. Like, if it's this happening this young, you're probably just a forgetful person. But also, maybe the, the edibles you're partaking in has something to do with it, too.

[Monet X Change]

I have not done weed gummies in forever. The last time I did, I did any try to detect the drugs was when the one we were in Joshua Tree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know when that was. I wasn't there. Don't we. We weren't in Joshua Tree, y'.

[Commercial Narrator]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all were in Joshua Tree. I didn't get invited in January. I would like the invite. I'm not gonna say yes, but I still want to be invited. Because it feels nice. Because it feels nice. It's a very small gesture. It's a small lift.

[Monet X Change]

Noted, noted, noted, noted. Okay, so they have all these new, like, you know, these new queens on the music scene, and I think we should go by one by one and say, are they diva status now? And if they're not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, the young divas, or are they on their way to diva status? Like, where do we think they're gonna rank up in the course of history?

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Like, Ice Spice. Ice Spice is not a diva. I don't see. I don't see Ice Spice entering into diva status. What do you think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I gotta be honest. Of all the rap girlies, I think Cardi B will. I think Megan Thee Stallion will. I think Doja Cat will. They're on their way. They're already on their way, to be honest.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, interesting. You think Doja Cat will be like, diva status?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rap diva, yeah, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

See, is like, I know she had this rap album, but just because you have, like, for example, Beyonce has a country album. I wouldn't call Beyonce country artist. Like, if Doa Cat keeps on rapping, I would say, but I don't know. She kind of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But do raps on. Doja has rapped on every album. Like, DOA didn't just start rapping just on Scarlet. Do was rapping on Bad. I'm a boss said I'm the. After you've been the be. I've been. I mean, she's. She was rapping on. On. What's that? She. She's been rapping for a while. So I. I would say Doja Cat. Doja Cat is a rapper for sure. Which is funny. You know, Lizzo considers herself a rapper.

[Monet X Change]

Does she?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she was like. So being nominated for all these Grammys is crazy because, like, I'm a rapper, so it's kind of crazy that I'm, like, getting all these awards for singing. Which, by the way, speaking of divas, I think that. That. That Lizzo is also on her way to. To diva status for sure. And she posted online recently, she quit. Did you see this big I quit status?

[Monet X Change]

It got taken down, but then she cleared it up, and she was like. She, like. She's like. When I said I quit, I'm not saying I'm quitting music. I'm quitting my life. She's like, I'm quitting. Paying attention to this bullshit. Like, I quit. Y', all, like, the, like, negative people. She cleared it up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's camp. That's such a camp response. But I don't say quit. I said, like, ill. I said, like.

[Monet X Change]

Well, honestly, people are annoying. Again, we have such. We have it on such a small scale. I cannot imagine, especially with, like, all the litigations with her and people making allegations about her, which apparently they've all been, like, done. So it's not like they're not even legit anymore. People are just still choosing to believe these stories that have. That she's been cleared of by law.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you say Lizzo and Nick Smith got into Internet beef?

[Monet X Change]

I sure did see that. Nicholas Smith.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Do you go to Internet beef? That's not a fair description of what they went through, but it really tickles me that Nick. That Nick Smith and Lizzo were having correspondence through video on.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, was it more than one back and forth, or was it just she stitching to his video? Was it more than that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She stitched him, then he. Then he stitched her. That was. That was the whole thing.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then she commented a few times.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think Billie Eilish. I gotta be honest. For sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Billie Eilish is hands down, easily, definitely went 100% of her way. This is not even up for debate. Billie Eilish is. I mean, I'm not even a huge Billie Eilish fan, but she is a very, very big deal. She is a huge deal in me.

[Monet X Change]

I recognize. Again, I think this is how we define diva, because I recognize Billie Eilish is huge. She's a huge artist, but she does not give me diva.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you think that you think Cardi can be a diva, but not Billie?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Cardi gives me diva.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What gives you diva about Cardi?

[Monet X Change]

Just her overall. Just her overall thing. Like her overall image, her brand. Like Cardi B.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, to me, is it the opulence and the looks and the attitude? What is it?

[Monet X Change]

I think this has part to do with her diva status. Yes. But it's obviously not the only thing. So. Yeah, I don't know. And again, we did this last time, like, trying to define what makes someone a diva, but I just. I don't know about. I don't get that vibe from Billie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I feel like what we're kind of redefining diva as, which I feel like not just us, but it's part of the conversation around redefining What a diva is. It's like iconic woman or feminine figure in the world of entertainment. So you can be like a fashion diva, you can be a rap diva, you can be a comedy diva. So it's not. So I think that it's changed. So it used to be like, you have to sell this many records, you have to have an attitude. You have to have a reputation. Low key a little bit, and you have to be able to sing your face off.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, Nick, Whitney didn't have a reputation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was just.

[Monet X Change]

What? What was the reputation? I mean, like, you mean like, about the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whitney was doing drugs and cursing people out on the Daily. Whitney Houston got into a fight with Wendy Williams on the radio. Wendy Williams and Katie Couric went toe to toe. Wendy, Whitney Houston and Oprah Winfrey. Diane Story went toe to toe. Whitney Houston and Oprah Winfrey. What do you mean Whitney Houston doesn't have. That was the. That was the crazy thing you've ever said in your life, Whitney Houston. And I'm not gonna besmirch this. This dead woman's name, but Whitney Houston certainly had a reputation.

[Monet X Change]

Why did you say dead like that? It just felt really, really heavy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I didn't mean it in any kind of way. Just besides acknowledging that she's dead. Let's take a break and I'll tell you why I said it.

[Monet X Change]

Dead foot. They called me dead Foot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yeah, obviously. I mean, I'm not. I'm not.

[Monet X Change]

I'm just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just saying, like, I was. I was saying, like, I'm not trying to besmirch this dead woman's name because, like, that's the point that she's dead. And. Do you believe in. Don't speak ill of the dead.

[Monet X Change]

I used to, I think, back in my. Which I had to. I don't even want to get on that. This conversation, but I've kind of. I think I'm coming. Not coming around on religion, obviously. I think organized religion is the devil. I hate organized religion. But I think I'm leaning more into the agnostic and, like, recognizing the higher power. I really feel that strongly these days.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But anyway, two more Joshua retreat trips and you'll really be there.

[Monet X Change]

But I used to. When I was, like, super Christian, I did. No, I don't anymore. And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, what?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What, What? What'd you say?

[Monet X Change]

When I was. When I was super religious, when I was super, like, Christian, like, I did feel like, a respect to the dead and not speaking Illibra, but now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. We had just gone so far from that. I forgot this is what we were talking about. Maybe I need some ginkgo. B? Loba. Yeah. You know, I never understood why we had to respect dead people so much. Because I'm like, if you don't respect people, you know, you should respect people who are living, people who are walking on this ear. Respect the people who can hear what you're saying and can be affected by it right here and now. If you're gonna respect anyone, respect those people.

[Monet X Change]

I would quit. I mean, yeah, I would say that. Yeah. I mean, but I mean, that's just the golden rule. Just be respectful of everyone. Like, yeah, I don't believe you should

[Bob the Drag Queen]

be respectful of everyone. I also don't believe that. I don't believe that everyone deserves respect.

[Monet X Change]

So who should you not respect them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I think if you, if someone's values don't align with yours in a way that feels like you don't want to respect them, you don't have to. Oh, like, like I don't think, I don't think we are owed each other's respect. It is, it is certainly nice to give it, but I don't think we are owed each other's respect.

[Monet X Change]

Well, yeah, well, when you say that like that goes. That I feel like that's like, that's a no brainer. Like I'm not respecting like a racist. I'm not respecting Trump support. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not respecting that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's a little bit blanketed, right? Like I can respect a person who is a racist without respecting the fact that they are racist. No, no, because I'm going to reiterate, everyone on the planet has racist tendencies. So you don't respect anyone. Who do you, who do you respect?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, but I mean, no, no,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

we all have transphobia, fat phobia, racism, anti Islamic. Okay?

[Monet X Change]

Someone, that someone is walking around saying the N word or calling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what's the tipping point? Where does, where's the point where you're like this, this is the thing that makes me stop respecting you.

[Monet X Change]

When you are using derogatory names and slurs to people. If you're someone who walks down the street and does that, I don't respect you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what if they don't do that? What if they do everything else? They just don't use derogatory terms, can you respect them then?

[Monet X Change]

But I mean, if you are, if you are doing, if you are, if you are not doing derogatory terms, then you probably. I feel like that is the beginning of it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, if you are not always for some people, because some people, it's subconscious, it's subconscious biases. Biases that they have. So what you might be doing is like using your white woman tears to get someone in trouble. You might be calling the cops on people. You might be not hiring people of color or not hiring trans people at your job, but you don't. But I don't call them names. I just don't want them living in my neighborhood. But I do not call them names. They have a right to live in a place that's just not next door to me. But I would never call you the N word or the T slur ever.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, you, you ate with that one a little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So that's what I'm saying. What is the litmus for, like, where you can, like, you can't, you can't respect someone.

[Monet X Change]

You made. You, you made you a little cake and you ate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had my little sour crunch straws. I just ate some hotel beef jerky. I don't even want to know how much I paid for that beef jerky. I don't even want to know.

[Monet X Change]

You get a snack from the hotel and you are paid a month's rent. If you have a soda, a, a popcorn and a beef jerky, you have paid like 85.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, refinance your home. I had two applesauce apple juices. I, I, I'm, I might as well move in at this point because I'm paying mortgage. I'm paying the mortgage on this at this point. To the thing that I feel like it is when we make. Here's the thing about racism. For me, when you are attacking the racism and acknowledging that racism is just a condition that some people find. Racism is a condition that we find ourselves in and we have to unlearn the racism. But when you just label someone, you're just a racist and that's it. And you're unsalvageable. There's nothing that can be done because you're just a racist. And as opposed to being like, look at your behavior and why it's racist, you can actually do some working and unlearning in that regard, which I've done with, with, with, with racism, with fat phobia, with transphobia, with all that stuff

[Monet X Change]

instead of someone, my job to, to help, to help someone get their realization.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, it's not about helping to give it. I'm not talking about you training someone.

[Monet X Change]

It's like, it's how I can help that person. See that? Got it. You say, no, what I'm saying is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What I'm saying is. Yeah, for yourself. And also when you're looking at people like, that's why I say, like, what is the. That's why I say, what is a litmus? Like, what is this arbitrary thing that people are doing that makes them. Because if you're only relegating it to people who are burning crosses and calling you the N word, then there's way less people. But that's not as insidious as thinking what you're doing is good. Thinking what you're doing isn't harmful is way more insidious than knowing you're doing harm.

[Monet X Change]

I would agree with that. Wait, what do we. How do we get to racism?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you respect who deserves who? Does everyone deserve respect? So I don't think everyone deserves respect, but it's certainly nice to give respect to people. There are some people. There are certain people. Like, there is. Here it is. There are circumstances where I will choose to not respect someone.

[Monet X Change]

Right. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, for example, if you are being particularly nasty to me. Oh, no, I'm just. I don't. I just. I'm playing with this thing. If you're being particularly nasty to me, I will probably, in that moment, choose not to respect you. I might choose to respect you still, but I would probably choose not to respect you. If you yell at me, if you've done something to hurt someone, that means a lot to me. Sometimes there are moments where I'm just feeling. You know, I was at the gym the other day, and I was not particularly nice to the guy at the reception, at the desk. I was like. I was like, well, why do I have to sign up? Why do I have to pay more? I was told I didn't have to be like, I wasn't nasty to him. But the next day I came back and said, I want to apologize to you. I felt like I was kind of out of character, and that's not the kind of person I want to be. He was like, you weren't even that mean. I was like, well, I felt like I was. I didn't like how I was behaving. And in that moment, for whatever reason, because I was frustrated, I felt like he didn't deserve the level of respect that I normally give people.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I have a thought. What about, like, you take that moment that you had with him, and then I want you to think about it. Every time we have a less than pleasant interaction on this podcast, and you think about how you can take that experience and inject it into a certain rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But he was really sweet and he was also understanding. So I don't see how that could work in our dynamic.

[Monet X Change]

Interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, again, I think I have had moments, like, I think, I think it's a human. It's a human experience to have a moment where you are less than pleasant and like you. I mean, again, but it's how you treat that moment afterwards. Like you were. You went back the next day and you made amends with him and you, you apologize for your behavior. Um, but I don't. But so, so, so you're saying, you're saying in that moment he didn't deserve to give you respect because you behave because of your behavior or because you respected him, you apologized?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, no, I believe that I. What I'm saying is in that moment, because I was so heated and agitated, I did not give him the respect that I felt like he deserved. I didn't feel like he deserved respect in that moment because I was just so irritated that I didn't have the capacity to hold space for him as a person who needed respect because I was running late, I was being held up outside, I had to give him my card. And the person at the other location was like, you don't have to do any of this stuff. And I got here, I was like, well, that guy said, I don't have to do this. Why do I have to do all this stuff? And he was like, you just do. I don't make the rules. You just do.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I mean, a place that I often, not often, but I get frustrated. Like when, when, when.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I guess?

[Monet X Change]

Guess where?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The airport?

[Monet X Change]

No. Oh, at hotels. So again, we travel a lot and we check in a lot of hotels. And then when I get to hotel and they don't because what will happen is my management or my whoever, they will book me if I have a, if I get into the place before check in time, like before, like, usually before, like 11 o' clock in the morning, they'll book you the night before. But hotels, as someone who works at hotels, they will know if you do not check in the night before, they will no show you even though you're coming in the next morning. Because no one, sometimes, sometimes my team does call and alert them, but someone doesn't pass the message on, so my room is unavailable. When that happens, I'm physically being annoyed and I know I'm being short and I'm being very curt with the person and I don't always apologize. Sometimes by the end of it, when it's fine, I'm like, also, I'm sorry about before. It was just really early. I took a red eye. I'm very tired. I just apologize. But sometimes I don't. And, you know, that's the way I often lose. I often lose respect for the person on the other side. But also, sometimes they be cunty. They be acting like, well, I'm sorry, I don't see your reservation, sir. So what now? And I'm like, well, bitch, I'm here. We gotta figure it out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me and Rob had a gig in Omaha. And I got there, it was like nine o' clock in the morning. I was so tired. I was so sleepy. I had just. When we finished the celebration tour, we are done at, like, one o' clock in the morning, y'. All. And then I woke up at, like, 4 o' clock to get on a 5 o' clock flight to go to Omaha. So I was so tired and so sleepy. And I got there, and she was like, we don't have a room for you, and we don't have a room for you, and we don't have your claim number. We don't have your claim number. And I was like, oh. So then I called my manager, like, guys, what's going on? They were like, it should be there. And they were like, it's not there. And then I called the. The people who were booking. They were like, everyone was like, it should be. It should be. And then this other lady came around the corner, and she had the. She had these. And so this other lady came around the corner, and this lady, she looked like Meg from Family Guy. So she had a very upsetting face, like. And I think because of the way Meg is considered annoying, I've been trained to think that a person who looks like this is annoying. So she was annoying me with her little, like, smug little face.

[Monet X Change]

And bitch come from the back with some papers in her hand. I know we're not gonna be friends.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. So the bitch coming in with papers in her hands was. That was my bitch. So she showed up, and she was like, oh, this is. She was. As if. She was like, oh, we're gonna have some very important people coming by. These are their cards. But I saw it from sitting down. I saw it from sitting down over here. And I'm like, I see this lady handing you these. Like, you didn't. This lady showed up with these. With these cards with these envelopes with our names on them. And then. Cause I was like, yeah, you don't Have a room and it's not available. And your room's not gonna be ready until 4 o'. Clock. I said, my gig's at noon. She goes, well, I don't know. She goes, well, I'm very sorry, Sarah, but we just don't have a room for you. It won't be available until 4 o'. Clock. I'm sorry. And I was like, this is so annoying. Lady comes by with the envelopes. And then the other lady takes the envelope, comes around to meet me and Rob, and she's like, I figured it out. I don't think you did figure it out. I think the other lady, you figured. And then you took the credit for it because you were up here hollering, ain't nothing. Ain't nothing. Y' all. Ain't got nothing. Take y' all black asses on the streets of omaha in the 22 degree weather, walk in the snow.

[Monet X Change]

She better. She would have come and get the credit. She's like, I figured it out for you guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she said it twice. I handled it. I was like, you're lying. You're lying.

[Monet X Change]

What is another place to use it? I cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Another place where you lose. Oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Lose your respect for someone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. How are you? Oh, I did something in the elevator the other day in Atlanta on the tour. And honestly, I was kidding, but I don't know how this guy took it. I have no clue how he took it.

[Monet X Change]

You were doing a bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was doing a bit. I was in the elevator and I would have my face on and I'm like wearing parts of my outfit, but not the whole outfit. I don't walk around in ransomware outfit. It's gigantic. So I just wear my bloomers, my hair and my jewelry in a black workout shirt.

[Monet X Change]

At the venue, at the hotel, at the venue. Oh, God. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I walk around. I went to the me, I went to the friends and family to see some friends of mine from Atlanta. And then on the way down, this guy was like, bob, shouldn't you be getting dressed in your marant outfit? And then I said, shouldn't you be shutting the fuck up and minding your business? No, I said, shouldn't you be minding your fucking business? What? I said. That's what I said. I said, shouldn't you be minding your fucking business? Huh? And I thought because I was saying it like that, it was so clear that I was kidding.

[Monet X Change]

Was he on the crew?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was just some fan. I did not know who he was. I don't know where this man is to this day. Sorry. To this man. I did not know him.

[Monet X Change]

I would say sometimes if you like, running late for a thing or something, like a bunch of fans and they see you and they want to take pictures, and then this, the thing that gets me, a little thing when they come, like, like, hi. And you. I can tell you want a picture. I'm like, hey, yeah, good to see you, girl. I'm like, can we take a picture? I'm like, sure. Now I know. Listen, you don't have to do this if you don't want to. Okay, we can take it. I was like, yeah, come on. Let's say we have to go like Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really?

[Monet X Change]

I'm like, girl, let's take the fucking picture.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have to go. I'm running late.

[Monet X Change]

I have to go. The bus is here, The Uber is here. Like, let's just take the picture. It's like, it's like, it's like they want to, like, they want to have this thing of being like, you don't, you really don't have to. Okay, bitch, I don't have to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'll. What I've learned in that sense, I go, okay, let's be really quick. Like, really quick. And that works every time. Okay, let's be really quick. Like, really quick. And then, yeah, that is my. Whenever I'm like in the rush head of somewhere. And also one thing I do, I do not. If people stop me and don't know I don't know my name, I don't tell them who I am because there have been so many times where I was not who they thought I was. And that shit is embarrassing.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. Or the little thing of, you're from Drag Race, right? From that point on, I'm like, I, I, I'm. Because you, you don't, you have no idea who I am, and you don't really want to. Like, you just want. Because could you see other people taking a picture? So now you just want to take a picture too?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, no, but sometimes people recognize my face and it's not. They're the first one to mention, but they just don't know who I am.

[Monet X Change]

But are you really a fan then? Do you really want to picture them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I don't know if they're fans. But, like, I remember being at the fucking airport in San Francisco before I lived there. Maybe I was living, I can't remember. And it was before I lived there. And this lady was like, it was after, actually. Yeah, it was after. And this lady was like. She had. She was holding my driver's license hostage. She was like.

[Monet X Change]

She went in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I went. And she goes, are you on tv? Do I know. She goes, do I know you? And I said, I don't think you know me. She goes, no, I know you from somewhere. You're on tv, right? And I was like, I'm on tv. She goes, are you who I think you are? And I said, well, I don't. Holding my id. I said, well, I don't know who you think I am. She goes, are you who I think you are? And I was like, I just don't know who you think I am. So I can't quite answer that question. And she's like, just tell me if you are who I think you are. And I was like, I genuinely don't know who you think I am. She was like, you're Ms. J

[Monet X Change]

work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said, from Project Runway. She goes, yeah. I said, miss J is in her 60s.

[Monet X Change]

You mean America's Next Top Model?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I said, miss J is in her 60s, and you're holding my ID in your hand. Even if you think I look 60, you're holding my ID in your Hand. So when you saw Ms. J on Project Runway when I was in high

[Commercial Narrator]

school,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

which I don't think Top Model came out when I was in high school. I think came out afterwards.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You. Not you. Not you trying to be a Gen Zer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, when did Top. No, that would put me in. They'll put me in Gen Z. Yeah, I was in high school. I was in high school. Very much so. Very much so.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I just. I just. I just don't want to go through the thing of, like, you have no idea who I am or what's your tv. So at that point, you're not really a fan of mine, so you don't really want to. You just. You just want a picture. Because you see other people taking a picture, and you just want, like. So, like, No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I also got a new thing that I do whenever someone doesn't know who I am because someone. Like, I'm on the plane and someone walks by and they go, oh, my God, I love you. And the guy next to me, like, are you famous? And I was going, no. Or, how did they know? You guys go, we went to high school together, and we always do this thing where we act like we see the other one before they see us. We always go, oh, my God, you're so. We always. We do that all the time. And they honestly. They Take that answer every single time. They're always like, oh, okay, that's funny.

[Monet X Change]

When I was flying back into LA from Tampa. Yes. This morning, I think I was sitting next to a celebrity guy. He was very hot, but I have no idea what show he was. At first I thought he was the dad from this is Us, but it wasn't Milo Vitamol. It was another guy screaming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm screaming. What's his name again?

[Monet X Change]

Vitamilio.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, and I wanted to say how

[Monet X Change]

you said it last time I said Vitamilio.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Per.

[Monet X Change]

And I didn't want to do the thing of asking him, like, what like. Cause that's. I hate that. Oh. I was on a plane the other day with Cedric the Entertainer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's cool.

[Monet X Change]

I know. And I wanted to, but I'm like, he's probably so annoying. And then the other day I was on a plane with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You say, he's probably so annoying.

[Monet X Change]

No, he's probably so annoyed of, like, celebrities. Like celebrity who's such a big, big celeb. He's probably gets it all the time. Like, yeah, I'm Cedric.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think you have more followers on Instagram than Cedric Entertainer?

[Monet X Change]

No, I feel Cedric Entertainer has more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, do you know how many you have? For sure.

[Monet X Change]

Insta. Yeah, I'm like 1.2.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cedric the Entertainer has 3.3 million followers.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, for sure. Cedric is a huge celebrity. And then I saw the guy, the guy who voiced Dr. Facilier in I Got Friends on the other side. He always plays like a villain or like an evil dad, grandfather or something like that. Love him. I don't know. But again, he's one of those. He's one of those actors. I feel he's just famous to black people, but I don't know his name. Do you know his name?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

His name is Keith Richards.

[Monet X Change]

Keith Richards. Keith Richards.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Keith Richards. Let me see what Keith Richards look like. Keith Richards is white.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. There's probably multiple Keith Richards. Bob,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was wrong. First name is Keith

[Monet X Change]

Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's the last name? What's. It's called Princess. Princess and the frog. My phone went, penis and the frog. I'm screaming. My bad.

[Monet X Change]

Keith.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Keith David. Keith David. Oh, Keith David. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would not know this man's name, but if I saw him, I'd be like, no, you.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I would mind my business. So I sat next to Patton Oswald on the plane one time, and I didn't say anything to him, but he was sitting right next to me. And the most amazing Thing happened. There was this guy in front of us watching a YouTube video on his phone, full volume. I mean, sitting there on his phone in fucking. Just sitting there, just full on. I mean, just imagine just out here. Like, I remember one time you and I were at Australia at immigration. During immigration, you know, I always lied. We were all like, what? So then Pat Oswald wasted no time. Pat Onswald reached that little arm in there, tapped him and said, you can't do that. The guy was like, huh? He goes, you're listening to the music. We can all hear your video. He goes, oh, you can hear. Oh, you can hear? Yes, we can all hear. We can all hear what you're doing, so you have to stop doing that. And the guy was like, I don't have headphones. He goes, that's too bad. You can't listen to that out loud on the plane.

[Monet X Change]

I don't have headphones, so the option is to just listen to it on full volume in public.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pat Oswald said, absolutely not.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, here's the thing. In that situation, I never say anything. I've been in that situation. I would never say anything. Would you? If Patton Oswald was not there, would you have said something?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would have probably put my head. Because I always had my headphones on my headphones. I would have put my headphones on, put noise canceling and conked out, to be honest. But if I'm in a situation where I can't. I mean, I might. If I'm like, okay. Like, I remember one time I was. I was headed back from Philly. Me, Marty Gold, Cummings and someone else were headed back from Philadelphia on the boat bus, and this guy's sitting directly behind us. Music just like the whole trip back from Philly. And I was so annoyed, and I was like. But my thought process was like, I'm on the. I'm on this bus with this guy for the next hour, hour and a half, two hours. Do I want to argue with this man? Like, what if he. Because I often think to myself, what if someone's crazy? Like. Like, I watched too many hours.

[Monet X Change]

That's a very good point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I watched too much stuff on fight porn, which is a subreddit. And I just saw a video this morning where this woman. This woman was like. These two women got into a fight at a gym, and then one lady was like, winning. That's the thing. Even if you're winning, things could go south for you so quick. This woman was winning, winning the fight, and the other woman bit her finger off. Clean off.

[Monet X Change]

Ah, no, no, Clean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was giving her the business. She was bop, bop, bop. She had her down. And then the woman was like, I'm getting beat up. I know what I'm going to do. And she took a bite out of crime. She bit that woman's finger clean off her body. So the woman was still trying to fight. And then she was kind of like. And the one was kind of like, oh, my God, like, she was, like, holding her hand. But then, like, when the other lady left, she started crying because she realized she lost her finger. It was gone.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, where at? Like, the first knuckle, the second knuckle, like, where.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was security footage. So I didn't see how much of a finger she had lost.

[Monet X Change]

You see, I tell Andi this all the time. You can bite a finger off like a carrot. Your brain won't let you bite your own finger like that. But a finger is as dense. Is about as dense as it. Like, the bones in your finger are not that strong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can bite a penis off even easier. There's not even a bone in that, but you can rip a dick off like a piece of summer sausage.

[Monet X Change]

But when it's a wreck, though, it's probably harder because there's so much. Not actually.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever bitten a chicken bone and been. Like a. Like a. Like a drumstick? You ever just broken a drumstick? I mean, you know, you rip a piece of chicken, like, with your hands. You just rip it down the middle with your hands. Your bare hands. Like, you. We can. We can. We actually have these. All the strength we need to literally rip someone's fingers off with our bare hands. Do you know that people get their fingers. Like, people lose their fingers all the time because of rings. So basically, like, if your ring gets caught and then you fall back, your whole. Your whole finger will come off. Just from the weight of your body, your whole finger will come off.

[Monet X Change]

You told me this before, and I don't. I don't. The. The. The. The biology of it all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, so imagine your ring finger.

[Monet X Change]

What does it get caught on something?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So imagine your ring gets caught on, like a. A hook, and then you fall back. But the hook is pulling because, you know when it pulls, the ring now does this. So the ring. Does the ring. The ring doesn't pull like this. The ring pulls like this and this. Thank you, Jacob. And then this thing will rip your finger clean off of your body. Bob, that does not.

[Monet X Change]

I've never heard that happening. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I don't think it's a common.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a common occurrence thousands of times a year. Dozens of 1000s of times a year. Dozens of 1000s of times A year.

[Monet X Change]

12,000 times a year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's like, I think the history system, like, 40,000 times a year, people lose their fingers this way. I found this out because the guy was. Why are you. There was a guy on. Because there was a guy on Fish Tank, a shark tank, who is selling these rings that will. They look like metal, but they break.

[Monet X Change]

Yo, yo. All the Bob gets Bobby is becoming someone's black mother. That show on Nemo's World.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Fish Tank, Shark Tank. But yeah, it was. It was.

[Monet X Change]

It was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I was like, this is. So that's when I kind of stopped wearing rings. I was like, I mean, I never really wear rings. I was like, I can't wear rings anymore. Like, I can only wear rings for, like, moments where I'm, like, on doing something or filming something. But I can't just walk around the world with rings on.

[Monet X Change]

You are such a. You are such a freak.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why I'm not fighting people. I tell you, last time there was a guy in Russia who was, like, winning this fight, and then he started getting jumped by all these security guards and these people because he was just so big. And then he just pulled out a gun, started shooting people in their legs.

[Monet X Change]

The boxer?

[Commercial Narrator]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He wasn't even shooting to kill. He was shooting to wound. He was shooting to maim. That's vicious. There was another video of a guy and. And this is my life. This is my last story. This guy was at a. Was having a fight. Like, he. I don't know what was going on, but all I saw was, like, it was security footage. He beat this guy up and, like, knocked him out clean. Like, knocked him out clean, and then got on and started pummeling him. But his body is just like. Let's just like. Like, literally lifeless. And then while he was out completely unconscious, he broke both of his arms. Like, bit them back like paper clips. So this man. All this man remembers that he got into a fight and he woke up and his arms were like, that's crazy. So is a fight worth it?

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All that to say.

[Monet X Change]

That's why he did not tell the man to put his volume down on the bus. Because you're like, I don't want to break my two arms.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Imagine waking up and you're like, what the fuck happened? Because, you know when you get knocked out, you lose, like, memory, like, 30 seconds to a Minute ahead of that. So all you remember was you saw a guy and you were like, oh, yeah. And then you woke up and you were like, Jesus fucking Christ. I have now broken both of my. Something happened between Knuck if you buck. And now. Now my shit is bent back.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not laughing at this situation. I'm just laughing at that. I'm laughing at. That is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It sounds like you're laughing at the situation. I gotta be honest. That's what it sounds like.

[Monet X Change]

I'm laughing at the realization that you just. You thought you were having an argument, someone swung on you, knocked you out, and now you wake up and Horrifying. Crazy. That's crazy. That's wild, dude.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So anyway, that's why. That's why I don't. I don't fight you. I will do anything to. If I'm fighting you, it is my last. If I'm fighting you, I genuinely feel like I have no other option. And I'm completely cornered, and I feel very attacked.

[Monet X Change]

Not. Not the Laganja.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The girl.

[Monet X Change]

The Tick Tock shock has me. Tick Tock Shop has me in a. I have bought, like, eight wigs for the Tick Tock Shop. All I get advertised wigs, and they all look so good, and I buy them and I. I need to stop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does it sound good?

[Monet X Change]

No, it sounds terrible. Our audio listeners are. Are hating this right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it asmr?

[Monet X Change]

No. What does it sound like? It sounds like someone with glass testicles is rubbing them on a microphone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do they do that? How do they get all the reverb on there? It's a program, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Also, I think for, like, people. Guys who have to get, like, oh, no, there's an episode of Sex and the City. The fake balls, they're like. They're silicone balls. So they're not glass. I was like, what if I wanted glass ones? Could I get a glass one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, probably not. All right, I think we have.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, what, am I shattering there? Huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, probably. You don't want that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I may have shatterproof glass, but also, it doesn't feel like it'd be comfortable. You want something that's like, kind of the texture of a. What does a testicle look like outside of the body?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. I want to look that up. What does a ball look like?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What does a testicle look like? Images.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I want to see, like, a real one, not a drawing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they're all drawings.

[Monet X Change]

Ew.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ew. That is ugly. Oh, that's.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, that's. That's That's a dog testicle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I found one.

[Monet X Change]

They're not cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, right.

[Monet X Change]

They're not cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Uh,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

these are things that be giving us all this. All this conflumber these little ugly things, right.

[Monet X Change]

I thought they'd be cuter than that. I'm kind of disappointed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They look nicer in the sack. All right, Monet, I love you very, very much.

[Monet X Change]

I love you too, Roberta. And I hope you know there's no way you're doing a show tonight. You would have been getting ready or already.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, no, I. I have a show tomorrow night, so I don't know when it's coming out, but we have. We're wrapping up the. The US leg of our tour. We are headed to Mexico and then we're going to Brazil.

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Brasilia, which the Brazil show is going to be. We kind of talked about to those

[Bob the Drag Queen]

of you don't know if you, if, if you're in Brazil, you're in Rio. The show is. The show is free. There's a free show at the Copacabana beach. And they're expecting over a million people to come to this concert

[Monet X Change]

gag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't that crazy?

[Monet X Change]

I think Madonna should fly me out again to come out again. But that's just me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they might have a Brazilian person.

[Monet X Change]

Probably Pablo Vitar,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

who is so hot.

[Monet X Change]

She is.

[Commercial Narrator]

All right.

[Monet X Change]

Or. Or what's the one you were. You were thirsting after the other day? A grag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Crag queen is very attractive.

[Monet X Change]

She better work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, Mo, I love you very, very much.

[Commercial Narrator]

All right.

[Monet X Change]

I love you too, Vine.

[Commercial Narrator]

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