The One About Stand Up

Summary

Sibling Rivalry — “The One About Stand Up”

Date: September 4, 2023
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry dives deep into the world of stand-up comedy, exploring both Monét’s and Bob’s comedic journeys, their unique pathways from drag performance into stand-up, and what makes stand-up rewarding — and challenging. They also riff on notorious hecklers, the art of writing comedy, adventures in New York nightlife, memorable club tales, and their mutual love (and some differences) regarding comedic favorites. Throughout, their signature banter, improvisation, and playful shade make the episode as funny as it is insightful for aspiring comedians, drag performers, and comedy fans alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Art of Writing “Smut" and Short Stories

• Impromptu Erotic Storytime (07:08–13:00)
  • Monét and Bob challenge each other to improvise short, steamy stories on the spot, showcasing their comedic talents and love of storytelling.
  • Monét crafts an elevator tryst (“They both lusciously walked into the elevator...”), while Bob spins a suspenseful Grindr tale with a kinky twist.
  • They contemplate writing longer, Patreon-exclusive stories and debate Monet's track record with creative “challenges.”
  • Quote: “I like writing. Writing is the thing I enjoy doing.” – Monét (13:32)
• Young Adult (YA) Fiction Dreams (14:40–18:41)
  • Monét reveals a desire to write gay vampire fiction blending “Blade meets Twilight meets Euphoria.”
  • They debate the appeal (or lack thereof) of high school-set stories and discuss popular smut/erotica on Reddit.

Personal Journeys Into Stand-Up Comedy

• Finding Their Voices
  • Bob’s Path: Began writing stand-up in 2005, finally performing in 2009 after encouragement from his creative roommate Michelle, an opera singer (18:48–21:26).
  • Monét’s Path: Learned comedic timing and crowd work in the tough NYC bar scene, holding attention solo for hours — akin to “stand-up without calling it that” until formally starting two years prior (26:41–28:10).
  • Quote: “You have to be able to hold your own in a fucking bar...for two hours at a time.” – Monét (26:50)
• Drag Queens in Stand-Up (28:10–29:13)
  • Discuss drag queens who do stand-up: Bob, Monét, Bianca Del Rio, Trixie Mattel, Jackie Beat, Flame Monroe.
  • Address the niche nature of drag stand-up and how it’s growing.

What Makes Great Stand-Up?

• Crafting Material & Relatability (31:50–34:19)
  • Bob challenges the idea that "distance" from a topic makes comedy better; instead, it's all about relatability: “Someone has to relate to your sense of humor…that tends to be where people think you're a good comedian.” (32:02–34:19)
  • Monét agrees, loves callbacks and strong storytelling in specials, citing Ellen DeGeneres (“The Beginning”) as a formative influence (34:19–35:13).
  • Bob’s favorites include “Never Scared” (Chris Rock), “Queens of Comedy,” and Wanda Sykes’ “Not Normal” (35:22–36:18)
  • Playful Bo Burnham “debate”: Monet admits his comedy “doesn’t resonate” but clarifies she holds no grudge (36:29–37:59).

The Comedy of Hecklers

• Wild Audience Stories (38:08–44:56)
  • Both recount memorable heckler moments: genital origami claims, birthday interruptions, and creative handling (“I walked her to this door...it was just an exit. And I closed the door on her, and she couldn’t get back in.” – Bob, 44:01)
  • Pro Tips for Queens: “If you are doing drag and you want to do stand up...you have to be doing stand up out of drag for straight audiences, or for people who have no clue who you are… That’s how you’ll get funny.” – Bob (44:57)
  • Monet shares her growth performing for non-Drag Race fans at the Edinburgh Fringe, gaining new respect (54:06).

Life in New York’s Drag and Comedy Scene

• Buskers, Hustle, and Drag Show Gigs (21:26–24:20)
  • Both reminisce about singing and performing (and the cash rewards) in the NYC subways.
  • Monét recalls a serial subway scammer (“I need $100 to get to Philadelphia...since I was 13 and in 2019, I was 29!” – 24:30)
  • Bob: “First of all, she was not scamming...the Peter Pan buses are notoriously expensive.” (25:34)
• Legendary (Now Gone) Comedy Clubs (48:54–50:13)
  • Bob feels “like an old fucking Betty” about comedy clubs closing, reminiscing about Caroline’s Comedy Club & Comics Comedy Club.

Comedy Writing, Performing Out of Drag, and Inspiration

• Material Ownership & Voice (55:40–56:21)
  • On using writers: both would consider it but worry about sounding inauthentic.
  • Bob teases, “You’re pretty comfortable taking my jokes for the first part of your career in New York City.” (56:21)
• Performing Out of Drag (45:44–47:13)
  • Both see the benefits and unique challenges of working “out of drag,” particularly for skill-building.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bob on Comedy Technique (32:02):
  “I think one of the most important things about comedy is just relatability...if you can think of the things everyone else is thinking, but find a way to articulate it in a way they wouldn’t think to, that’s where people think you’re a good comedian.”

• Monét on Crafting Stand-Up (29:13):
  “I find stand up very, very rewarding because it’s like you writing your own material and seeing how people respond... I find stand-up very rewarding and I really enjoy doing standup.”

• Bob’s Heckler Handling (44:01):
  “I started like, meeting her on the way out to the audience, and...I walked her to this door where the cakes are, and then I open the door, and she goes out, but it was just an exit. And then I just closed the door on her, and she couldn’t get back in.”

• On Performing for New Audiences (54:06–54:49):
  “A really nice thing that we were getting about my [Fringe] show, people were like, I really enjoyed that. I didn’t know who Monet is...but I do like her now. It was really funny.”

• Comic Shade on Friendship (58:09):
  Monét: “Oh, so Jacob’s not your friend. Jacob’s not your friend. Confirmed.”
  Bob: “We’re not friends, Jacob. You heard it.”

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Important Timestamps

• 07:08–13:00 — Improvised erotic short story challenge
• 18:48–21:26 — Bob’s early stand-up writing and first performances
• 26:41–28:10 — Monét’s path: from bar drag to stand-up
• 31:50–34:19 — Relatability vs. “distance” in comedy
• 35:22–36:18 — Favorite comedy specials and the Bo Burnham tiff
• 38:08–44:56 — Handling hecklers, including Bob’s infamous “birthday exit”
• 45:44–47:13 — Why stand-up out of drag is so important
• 48:54–50:13 — NYC Comedy club closures and nostalgia
• 54:06–54:49 — Performing for new straight audiences at the Fringe
• 58:09–58:41 — “Jacob’s not your friend” banter

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Dialogue and Banter Highlights

• Jockeying over who brings more ticket sales to tour: Madonna or Bob (03:18–03:49)
• Rioting about the infamous child orgy scene in Stephen King’s It (04:00–06:43)
• Playful jabs about Monet’s follow-through on creative bets (13:27–13:56)
• Bickering about who “borrowed” whose material in their drag beginnings (56:21–57:09)
• Ongoing debate about who sweats more on tour, trading over-the-top shade (57:01–57:56)

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Summary

This episode is brimming with the chemistry, wit, and shared history that make Bob and Monét such compelling co-hosts. For fans of stand-up, drag, and queer culture, the episode offers both practical insights on the comedy grind and a behind-the-scenes look at how these two have shaped their comedic voices. There’s encouragement for new comics (“perform for strange crowds!”), candid sharing about nerves and imposter syndrome, and plenty of signature Sibling Rivalry spice.

Whether you’re laughing along at heckler smackdowns, feeling nostalgia for bygone comedy clubs, or considering what makes comedy really land, this episode is a rich resource for both performers and fans.

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Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

1-800-contacts. My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is sibling rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

On today's episode, we write some sexy stories.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We talk about stand up comedy, and

[Monet X Change]

we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, he was not scamming. Okay. First of all, you know the Peter Pan buses are notoriously expensive. Everyone knows that. And we find out what made Monet say this. Oh, so.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so Jacob's not your friend. Jacob's not your friend. Confirmed. Good to know, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You heard it. Hey, y'.

[Monet X Change]

All, before we start this episode, I want you to know that I am coming to Chicago on September 22nd to do my show, Lifey. Lifey, that I did at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival to standing ovations every night. Dwarling. And Bob might even come. I'm just saying I don't know if he's gonna come. I'm gonna be doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will not be attending. I'm boycotting the show. And I advise you to do the same thing. If you do go, you'll see why I'm saying you should boycott. It is an incredibly problematic show. Monet was almost. It was one of the most controversial shows that happened at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. There are protests outside practically every day, except on the last day because the protesters were hosed down because Monet was in conjunction with the local law enforcement. So if you see possibly one of the most problematic shows you've ever seen in your life, then I say go do it. But if you. If that's not your thing, then stay home.

[Monet X Change]

Which would be at the park west in Chicago on September 22nd. And I'm coming to Portland on October 13th. And then Seattle. Well, not Seattle, the Birmingham Festival on October 14th. So look out for those dates. And you can get [e-mail] and I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

will be on the road in October on the Celebration tour. So come see me and Madonna in some places. Are you excited about the show?

[Monet X Change]

And I'll be on the road. Me and what's her name? Madonna. And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the tour is really selling itself. I don't think I'm the selling point.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I'm not sure you are the selling point.

[Monet X Change]

I want you to think a little bit. You are the selling point for a lot of us, which is why we're going to see the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I hate, whenever I say something that feels really, really realistic, someone's like, no, listen, I'm very confident and I believe in myself, but I'm aware that Madonna Ciccone is the selling point for this tour. And that is. That does not hurt my feelings in any way, shape, form or fashion, nor does it devalue me in any way, shape or fashion.

[Monet X Change]

Well, listen, we want you to know, Bob, we love and support you and we're coming off to see you, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, bitch, shut the hell up. Let's. I want to talk about something else, actually.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I recently found out that the book it by Stephen King has a very problematic scene at the end of the book. And let's do a trigger warning before we talk any more about this. And yeah, we'll do a trigger warning for anyone who. This involves violence against minors. Yeah, sure. I mean, the whole book kind of involves violence against minors. There's a lot of child abuse in the book. But at the end of the book, after they defeat it, you know, there's like a bunch of kids. They're all like 11 or 12 years old.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I know that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's an orgy. Really? The kids have an orgy in the sewer.

[Monet X Change]

Like a. I mean, like a sexual orgy. Like these kids are leading the sexual orgy by themselves in the sewer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A sexual orgy. The kids, the boys take turns having sex with the one girl in graphic detail. It is very strange. I do not know how a lot of us did not know about this in this book, but it is incredibly graphic. It is very, very strange. And I just don't understand how or why it made its way into the book.

[Monet X Change]

What is the point in the story? Is it trying to. Because, like, does one of the boys become it, or is this, like, why the girl becomes it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is about a transition from childhood to adulthood. A loss of innocence is what Stephen King says it is. But also, I think there's a lot to think. There's, like, some weird plot point where they're, like, in the sewers and they're lost and trying to get out. And the orgy somehow correlates to them being able to make their way out of the sewers. Well, she's trying to help the boys calm down. So she has sex with all of them.

[Monet X Change]

So it's not. So they're not, like, raping this woman, this young girl?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it is. They're consensual. I mean, the short answer. No one's. No one's forcing themselves. I don't think children can be consensual, but no one's forcing themselves on any. On anyone. It was. The book is like, make it seem like it's her idea. And she's like, let's all have sex with men one at a time. And I was like, this is so weird. And I just don't understand how. Like, what? Like, I've written before, right? I don't know that my hands have ever gone in that direction. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Do you ever think you could write a sexual novel? Like Joan Collins,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

maybe? Who's Joan Collins?

[Monet X Change]

She's like a really. She's like a big. She wrote a lot of those Fabio kind of novels. Like, women's novels. About, like, romance. Like romance novels. And they would oftentimes talk about sex in them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I could probably describe sex pretty well if I really put my mind to it. You know what I mean? Let's do it.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so we're gonna do an improv. Each gonna write and will say, okay, you wanna go first, Bob, or should I go first?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You go first. You seem pretty jazzed about it.

[Monet X Change]

So as Derek and Marshall came off of their date that evening, and Derek stood in the foyer of the building and invited Marshall to come in, they both lusciously walked into the elevator and ascended to the 21st penthouse floor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you lusciously walk to the elevator?

[Monet X Change]

Like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, sorry, I'm gonna interrupt. When they.

[Monet X Change]

When. As Marshall. I don't know whose apartment we had, I forget because Bob interrupted me. But as Marshall lets Derek into his flat, they begin to. Derek. Derek holds the back of Marshall's left hip turns Derek into him. And they begin to French kiss. Marshall pushing his tongue ever so gently but forcefully into Derek's throat. And Derek receives this information well. And then they go to the bed and Marshall takes out his 8 1/2 inch uncut penis that was dripping with precum. And he submerged it into Derek's orifice again and again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which one? Which orifice?

[Monet X Change]

It's for you to decide. The reader. This is an interactive story

[Bob the Drag Queen]

that was. That was interesting.

[Monet X Change]

I got to write.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How did you feel?

[Monet X Change]

I'm a good writer. I got to write. I can't just do it off the top of the dome.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I guess now I have to do one. Coming home from a hard night's work, Carl was completely exhausted, which is understandable. He does not love his job. He did not. Does not love his family. He does not love where he lives. But there is one thing that he does love. So he opened his phone and he went to the apps. He realized they had more hits than usual.

[Monet X Change]

His.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

His phone was like lighting up like. Like a scoreboard he found. He scrolled through the messages. A lot of high hey. Sup? Sup Pictures. There's one smile that really seemed to stick out to him. He clicked on the profile and it just said, do you want to know? Well, this pique Carl's curiosity. So he messaged back and said, I do want to know. And the profile simply responded with a location. So Carl was, of course, incredibly nervous and didn't know what to do. And then the next message said, write this address down. You have 20 minutes to get here. Write it down now. And then he sent a picture of his face. So obviously Carl wrote down the address. And by the time he wrote down the last letter, he was blocked with one final message that said, come find me. So Carl didn't know what to do. So he immediately opened his phone and shared his location with his best friend, Gina, waiting downstairs. It was a little bit of a cold day in New York City. It was in February. Carl's dress in more clothes than he feels sexy in. But enough clothes that he feels handsome. He heads out to this home he realizes is in pretty far in New Jersey. By the time he makes it out there, every light on the property is on, including the car. Carl goes up to the front door and knocks. And he hears a beep, beep. And he realizes his handsome gentleman is waiting in the car. Carl opens the door and says, hey, are you the guy from. Are you the guy from the app? Then he says, come find Out. So Carl hops in the back seat.

[Monet X Change]

Didn't he have the picture?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The heat is on. The heat is on. It feels very nice and warm. Carl starts to take off his coat, and they immediately start kissing. Carl's never been in a situation like this before. And the guy says, are you into kink? And then Carl goes, I'll try anything once. And the guy said, you'll do what? And as he forms his mouth to go, I'll try, the guy just spits in his face and grabs his throat and says, we're gonna have fun tonight. And then he rips Carl's pants open and just hops on top. And it was a very titillating 37 seconds.

[Monet X Change]

That's hilarious. Okay, okay. Should we challenge ourselves to write a one page graphic story and post it to Patreon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, one page. We should give yourself more than a page. You should give yourself, like, 10 pages.

[Monet X Change]

I think I could do 10 pages or, like, whatever. Just. We're gonna write a. We're gonna write a scene. However long the scene is for you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna give myself 10 pages. It's a short story, and I wanted to get it done in about 10 pages.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And let's do it. But also. No, no, I don't want to do this because you're not going to do it. And I found myself in the center.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna do it. I like writing. Writing is the thing I enjoy doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're still waiting for you to make that dress. I. I've been duped by you a lot of times, and I will not be happy now. I'm not gonna shake on it. The shake. By the way, no shake we've ever done has ever made you ever comfortable.

[Monet X Change]

We never shook on it before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll shake on it.

[Monet X Change]

That's a lie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is an. I have footage of you shaking to that. You're going to make that dress, and you never made it.

[Monet X Change]

That's not true. Let's shake on it. I will write a short story. I like writing. I'm very good at writing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me. Let me go ahead and pull up this footage right now of you literally shaking my hand and saying you're going to make listen right now. This is one of those fool me one shaming you. I'm not agreeing to this. This is a fool me one. And by the way, y' all will be waiting on this until the. Until the end of time.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Take my hand.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna do it for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, y', all, y' all wait around for this. Y' all wait around for this, for this fan fiction if you want to. Y' all gonna be sitting looking crazy as hell, but if you do, I'll read it. I'll be very happy, and then I'll write mine.

[Monet X Change]

After you write yours, whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

After I see that yours is submitted. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, there was a day at a time, like, I really was interested in writing, like, young adult fiction, but, like, sci fi fiction. Like, about, like, what grade?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, this grade. This gives. Like, this would be.

[Monet X Change]

Like, this would be high school. Like, like, think, like, 16 and up. Like 17 and up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something about.

[Monet X Change]

I know you hate. You hate that kind of stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

High school. To me, that's. I did not. I have never even once articulated that idea ever. I've never. I've never given these that. I hate that kind of stuff.

[Monet X Change]

Like, you don't like euphoria. Like, you don't like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like euphoria because it's high schoolers. It's not because it's sex. It's just, I don't like TV shows about high schoolers.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I mean. Well, this would be. This would be about high schoolers. Like, 17 is a high school.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I was. But what I was saying is the reason why it gives high schools to me is because I. What I was saying was that kind of writing, that kind of smut writing gives high school to me because of how popular it was when I was in high school school. When I was in high school, you know, Sister Soldier was at her height, and Coldman ever was really popular, and that's the grade I was in. So it was just one of those things that was just so high school. But I'm sure there were other. There were adults reading them. But for me, it takes me back to when I was in high school. But I've never said. I do not like smut books. No, no. I like to read. There's a couple of Reddit, like, would you Reddit thread Reddit subgroups that will. That will. That basically have people, like, writing out, like, dirty stories that I read sometimes.

[Monet X Change]

He's frozen, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In fact. In fact, I will tell you about one of those stories when we get back.

[Monet X Change]

All right, so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yeah, there are a couple of subreddits where you can have these. Like, they. They basically, people are. Which, honestly, part of me is like, y'. All. Some of these are really well written, and y' all should not be wasting it in Reddit for free. Like, you know, there's like, there's like a Reddit strike for a day. When I went back on a Reddit, some of my favorite subreddits were gone. I was like, well, where are they? And they went private.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I saw that. What I was saying before, like, would you watch something like Heartstopper?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's Heartstopper?

[Monet X Change]

It's just like, gay coming of age story show on Netflix that's about, like, high schoolers, like, coming out. And I will say I watched season one of Heartstopper and I'm watching season two, and I can't. It's too g. It's too, like, he held my hand. I'm like, that. I can't get into it. I can't get into that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For me, it's just the young. I don't want to see young people, like, doing stuff. Like, I'm not interested in young people, like, hanging out and stuff. It just doesn't. It doesn't speak to me.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I'm saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

By the bell kind of speaks to me.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, what? What speaks to you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Saved by the Bell kind of speaks. Saved by the Bell. Saved by the Bell kind of speaks to me. And Family Matters kind of speaks to me. And they're. They're young, but it was just different. Maybe that's because I was so young when it happened, but since I've been an adult, there's kind of. There's really not been anything about, like, young people that I've just that I'm interested in. Which, by the way, there's not. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm not saying this. That's wrong, but I couldn't watch Riverdale. I couldn't watch Euphoria. I can't. I can't. I just can't camp.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In high school, I had.

[Monet X Change]

I wanted to. I mean, and I still want to honestly, like, write like a 17 plus, like, you know, books. Book about like, these. In my mind, they're these like, young adult, like, 18, 19 gay vampires, but they're also like these like, fucking, like superhero vampires. And they're like. It's like Blade meets Twilight meets fucking Euphoria. In my mind, like, that's what this story is. And I. And I have like these like, little like, like thousand, two thousand word things. I've written about it before. Maybe I'll share them on Reddit. I mean, Reddit on Patreon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, are there any, like, the Google Drive?

[Monet X Change]

No, I have to just have them on my computer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, most of my writing is Obviously comedy and stand up based. And I started writing stand up comedy when I was 18 years old. When I started. Someone once said me, to do your first set, just rant, write about what you write about what you hate, and then you'll find the humor in that. That's really what I did. I just wrote about stuff I hated. That was my first ever. Do you still have it stand up set? Like the handwritten stuff? No. Oh, it was handwritten. Storage, probably Somewhere. Yeah. Handwritten. Yeah, girl, this was. This might be before Google Drive, or at least before I knew about Google Drive. This is like 2000. This is like 2005, 2006. Work is when it started writing stand up. And I didn't actually. I didn't actually make my way on to stage until it was 2009. Oh, wow. So I was sitting on the material for, like, three years.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow. And I mean, did you. Would you. Would you do it for people or would you do it for, like, your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For.

[Monet X Change]

What's the name? Chastity, Clarity and Charity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There are the casophilises in Chastity and. No, I mean, I think maybe I mentioned it to Chaz a couple times, but. But I really started doing it with when. When I. When me and Michelle, my roommate Michelle, who's also a performer. So Bobby and Lindsay and Chassis weren't performers. Bobby was a. He's like a restaurateur. And Lindsay, I think, worked in admissions at, like, a college. And Chastity. Chastity's my friend from college and she. What did Chass do? Well, at the time, Chassis worked at Barnes and Noble and I worked at the Jekyll and High Club, but none of them were performers. Then I moved. Then me and Michelle moved in together. Michelle was. Me and Michelle were constantly encouraging each other to go, was she a comedian? Do stuff. And is Michelle a comedian? No, Michelle's. Michelle's an opera singer, an actor. I know that, but we were always encouraging each other to go do stuff. Like, she had this Persona called New York City Opera Girl, and she'd go into the subway and she would sing, like, opera, and I would, like, go by and, like, start the tipping off. Like, I would be the first person to tip Michelle and then that would, like, start people tipping or something like that. Or I'd be her first person in her crowd and she would come to my drag shows and she, like. We had a very interesting relationship, me and Michelle, but it was like, just two young artists in New York City trying to make it back.

[Monet X Change]

When I was in High school. Me and my high school girlfriend, lamara recipes. Lamar, I love you so much. And we had this group called Train Station Ministries. It was like six of us, and we would be up in the train station singing these songs we would write together. And we used to make bang. We would sit right on the 42nd Street, 7th Avenue entrance right there. Of the two, three, one going to the shuttle over there. And we would sit there with a bucket or something and we would just be singing these songs and we would be like, we would make money, girl. And I mean, for me, back then, like, back then it was maybe like, I don't know, let's say one day we would make like 500, 600 bucks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Broke. You're broke.

[Monet X Change]

I actually have a recording of it. This is us. This is recorded on someone's sidekick. Imagine fat sketcher kevin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's me singing the bass.

[Monet X Change]

Did you ever do jokes in the subway? Like sell jokes for money? Jokes?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I, I, I tell jokes for money all the time.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, like in the subway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never done on the subway. I know, I know. Now I used to busk, but never doing jokes. I mean, I, me and a couple my friends used to sing and drag on the train. But I only did like once or twice. They did a lot. I only did like once or twice

[Monet X Change]

what you sing

[Bob the Drag Queen]

almost every time. Proud Mary.

[Monet X Change]

I left a good job in the city

[Bob the Drag Queen]

almost every time. So you'd be sitting on the train. I mean, two drag queens that come through and start singing Proud Mary. These big ass drag queens come through.

[Monet X Change]

Do you have a microphone and like one of the little speaker things or like just, just your own little, your

[Bob the Drag Queen]

two little vocal cords, just acapella. Acapella. Hand claps, enthusiasm and joy.

[Monet X Change]

How much would you make?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I feel like I only did like once or twice. I mean, honey, LeBron and Frosty Flakes did it a lot. And I feel like in like a busy day, they would make like 700, 800 bucks.

[Monet X Change]

That's not a bad day

[Bob the Drag Queen]

because going from car to car, you make more money. Because going from car to car, you just kind of like just have to keep going up and down. There's 10, there's 10 cars on every train, right? So let's say you make 10 bucks per car. You're making 100 bucks per train. Do it 10 times. You made a thousand dollars.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, well, you know. So when I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Again, especially if you say your goal, especially if you say out loud, I just want to make, I just want to make $10. It's at least a hundred. I can make $10, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. When I was, I would ride the train to school and there was this one woman, Bob, I forget what she was, she was this short, heavier white woman with a short haircut. And from the time I started going to high school in ninth grade, which I was. What is that, 13. From 13 until I want to say, when I was still living in New York City, one time, right before the pandemic, I was going on a train, going somewhere, and I saw the same woman trying to make enough money. She said, I need a hundred bucks to get to Philadelphia to get my kids. She had been doing that since I was 13. In 2019, I was 29. No, I'm not 29. Yeah, I was 29. For that amount of time, she's been trying to make a. She's been scamming the System to get $100 to get to Philadelphia to get to meet her kids. When I was on a train and I saw her, my mouth, my mouth, I was like, is this bitch still on this train trying to tell this story? Like this is over about two decades. This was crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, she was not scamming, okay? First of all, you know the Peter Pan buses are notoriously expensive. Everyone knows that. Also, her kids are grown now, right? So they're still her kids. Like just cause your kids are grown, she just wants to go visit her kids. Maybe she goes once a week. Maybe she's continually earning money to go see your kids.

[Monet X Change]

If anyone has ever seen this lady on the 2 train is always on the 2, 3 line, 1 train. If you have ever. I'm sorry, you never seen her. I think she's only on express, actually. If you've ever seen this lady, please comment in both sec.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know a lady on the one train who was pregnant for like four years. I know lady on the one train. I mean, she was pregnant for like four years. She never showed. She was like, hey guys, I'm pregnant. And I was like, is she gonna have, is she gonna ever have this baby or is she gonna. I think this is a condition. This is a. This pregnancy is. I don't know what's the term for this kind of pregnancy, but there's something going on here. Cartoon character pregnancy.

[Monet X Change]

For me, I think that in terms of pursuing a career in stand up comedy, you know, being a new working New York City girl and doing, you know what? I was doing seven nights, seven shows a week, I think that what. It wasn't exactly stand up comedy. But a lot of being. Cause, you know, because like Bob and I said before, the drag shows in New York City are a little different in other spaces. Like typical shows in New York City, they're either solo shows, duet shows. We don't have like the typical model of the one host with a cast of nine girls and each year just does a number and the host does the talking thing. Like in New York City shows especially, to work a lot, you kind of have to be able to hold your own in a fucking bar with people for you by yourself for two hours at a time. So that's what I was doing for a long time. So I was in, in a ways, writing material and doing stand up, but I was not calling it that. And I think up until two years ago was when I first my agent was like, you know what? I think you can do standup. I was like, I can't do standup. He's like, yes, you can. I was like, no, I cannot. And then he challenged me, I'm with the agent, to sit my black ass down and just sit down and just try to write material. And I did that. And at first it was like a mess. And I went back, I ran it by some friends and I did some other things and, you know, and I developed my stand up, my standup chops. And I'm still learning stand up and I'm still learning how to do standup and make it like the, you know, this fucking great, amazing thing. But I love doing stand up. It's so fun. But not until two years ago did I start doing standup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you guys hear? Do you consider yourself a stand up comedian?

[Monet X Change]

I consider myself a stand up comedian. I think I was a stand up comedian back when I was doing drag in New York City. And I was. And I was, for all intents and purposes, doing standup. I think that my path to stand up was different than other people because not a lot of. I mean, there are a lot of drag queens that are doing standup now,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess not really.

[Monet X Change]

Who are drag queens that, like, are doing stand up? You know what I mean? Obviously you, Bianca, Trixie, myself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jackie Beat does stand up. Flame Monroe does stand up. Who?

[Monet X Change]

Diane Monroe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Flame Monroe.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Flame Monroe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Flame Monroe does stand up. There's the. The woman you did the roast with. The drag queen I did roast with. Oh, sorry, I thought we were talking. Sorry, never mind. I didn't realize we were just talking.

[Monet X Change]

I thought.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Talking about drag queen specifically.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, drag queen specifically.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Other drag queens who do stand. I don't Know, you know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

But I find, I find stand up very, very rewarding because it's like you writing your own material and things that you think are funny and, and seeing how people respond to that and also just allowing yourself to be in the moment and like, respond to things in time and come up with material in real time and hearing how that goes and be like, oh, people really like that. And then you do it more and you workshop it more and you massage the material more to make it even better. I find science, my God, I find stand up very rewarding. And I really enjoy doing standup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I've been doing stand up for a, for roughly 15 years now. Yeah, roughly 15 years. And you know, yeah, you are interesting. And what I find interesting about standup is people make these arbitrary words. I saw this guy online being like, you know, what makes something, you know, he's like, the most important thing about comedy is distance. It's distance. And I was like, what? And he was trying to describe, you know what?

[Monet X Change]

I'm going to distance you from that worry. And we'll get closer when you come back from the break.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

So he was saying like, but he was saying like, oh, it's distance and how far you are from the material that makes it funnier. And I was like, well, that's actually not true.

[Monet X Change]

Can you, can you explain that? I don't, I don't understand distance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As in he was trying to say like. I think he was saying like, for example, if, honestly, I had a hard time understanding what he meant by it, but it seemed like he was trying to say like, the further removed you are from the source material, the funnier it can be. Or maybe he was saying, the closer you are to the source material, the funnier it could be. He was trying to see me in one of those. But it wasn't a great analogy. It wasn't a perfect description of it. And what I was trying to say is that, honestly, I think one of the most important things about comedy is just relatability. And what has to happen is someone has to relate to your sense of humor. Someone has to think that the way that you're seeing things is interesting and relate to that. Even if they couldn't think of it themselves, Even if they know they could never think of it themselves, they can relate to the way you're thinking about it. Or if they go, oh, I would have never thought of that, or they say, oh, now I can see how that person would think that. For example, whenever I say, why is heaven a gated community? Why is there a gate? Who lives next door? What's going on in Purgatory? The idea is, when I was like, oh, I've never thought that heaven would be a gated community, it never occurred to me. There's a gate around heaven. How big is heaven? What's going on in there? Why is there a gate? How long does St. Peter stay at the front at the door? Is St. Peter just eternally at the door? Is there a waiting line? Do we have to wait in line? Does St. Peter come back in the morning? Or is St. Peter just 24,7 non stop checking people into heaven the whole time? Why are the streets paved in gold? Is gold the best thing to pay? It's like so many things you can think of like that. And if someone, you know, or someone's like, my mom used to say the same thing. I, I never noticed. Moms do, do that thing where they, where they, where they, you know, turn around and give you a speech before you go into the, before you go into the store. I thought that was just my mom, not me relating to you realizing something that everyone's mom does. And if you can think of the things that everyone else is thinking, but find a way to articulate in a way that they wouldn't think to think of it or think to say it, then that's tend to Be where people think you're a good comedian. In my experience.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I would agree with that. I think relatability is a very big part of that makes. That makes. That makes stand up comedy resonate with a lot of people. But. And there are also so many different. There's so many different types of stand up too. I think that when I was. I mean, one of my favorite stand up comedy specials I've ever seen was the Ellen DeGeneres the Beginning special. It's today still like my favorite comedy special. I think it's so funny. A lot of it is that relatability, but also the way that Ellen is crafting stories to me particularly speaks to what I found. What I find really enjoyable about standup. Like, I love a good storyteller and someone who. And Bob knows this. I love a good callback. When a comedian has a callback, especially when it's one that you do not see, like not even a little bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's so.

[Monet X Change]

It's like one of my favorite devices in comedy. What's one of your favorite specials?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think my favorite special is probably Never Scared by Chris Rock. I love Never Scared. It's just so. I used to watch it once a week growing up. It's really, really brilliant. I love, love, love Queens of Comedy. Queens of Comedy was such a brilliant, brilliant special. I'm a huge fan of all of those ladies. Ms. Laura Samore, Monique, Adele Givens. I think they're all just brilliant comedians. I love chandelier status. By Some More is another great stand up comedy special. I could have been your cellmate by Monique is another great stand up comedy special. Not normal. What's it called? Not normal. What's one of Sykes's, the one with

[Monet X Change]

the one which you wearing the white suit. I think it is not normal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's called not Normal. Yeah, yeah. Not Normal was a great one. That's a recent. That's a recent special. I also. This is where Monet's gonna. I'm really gonna lose Monet. I'm gonna lose Monet here.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Bo Burnham's what Special was very good. Very good. Bo Burnham has some really good specials.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not saying. Okay, I want to say this. I never said that Bo Burnham's comics

[Bob the Drag Queen]

was publicly against Bo Burnham.

[Monet X Change]

I literally never said that. I've never insinuated that. I've never said that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's not funny.

[Monet X Change]

No, I did not say any of those things. Bob was insistent, as Bob does. Like Monet. You have to watch a special. I'm like I'm not interested.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it funny?

[Monet X Change]

Say it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was it funny?

[Monet X Change]

I haven't watched a special.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't want to watch it just because I said you should watch it? No. Your whole reason for not watching it. Because I said you should watch it?

[Monet X Change]

No, because his type of comedy did not resonate with me. I've seen other things of Bone Burner performance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you seen his comedy?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What have you seen? What have you seen of Barnum?

[Monet X Change]

Like, clips online? Like, I've, like. You don't have to watch someone's whole special to not ever see the new comedy. Dude.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you. Can you, like, describe, maybe describe something you saw that he did? Like, what's his style?

[Monet X Change]

But was. This was like, this was like years ago. I know. I cannot. I cannot. Bitch. I can't remember what I had, what I did this morning.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Describe like a little bit like, kind of like. Describe like a little bit like, kind of like what it was like. What kind of style of comedy can you describe anything about?

[Monet X Change]

Can you describe? No, I can't. Anyway, what's gonna say to you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, so you don't know. So you don't know anything about it. You just know. You don't know. Let me just get this clear. You don't know why you don't have

[Monet X Change]

to get a clip. I'll tell you what it was. I remember watching it and being like, oh, he's fine. This comment comedy doesn't resonate with me. And I moved on to the next thing I was watching. That's what happened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was the comedy? That. What was it, though? What was it? You remember what it was?

[Monet X Change]

I don't remember the jokes. V. Why you. I'm not engaging with this. Anyway. Have you ever had a heckler at your show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was wondering, was it. Was it. I said it. Was it. Was it like traditional standup? Was he doing, like, the yuck yucks? Was he hosting?

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever had a heckler at your show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've had a lot of hecklers on my show. Yeah, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I've never had it in my traditional standup things, but, I mean, I used to have hecklers back in the bars. I would be doing stuff. But not at any standup shows. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I've had a lot of hecklers in my day. I've had a lot of hecklers in my day, even both at the bars. I had a heckler at Zany's in Nashville about a week and a half ago.

[Monet X Change]

What did they say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This lady. This lady was like, I have a question. And I was like,

[Monet X Change]

I had a heck of a last night. I'll tell you afterwards.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, this is not like a back and forth type show. She goes, I just have a quick question. And I was like, all right, well, now I got to hear the question that was so important that I had to stop my entire show so you could ask me. And then she goes, my husband does genital origami. And I said, well, that's not a question. Puppetry of the penis. I feel like typically questions start with what, when, where, and why. And sometimes even have an inflection going up in the end. Not always, but typically. And yours had none of that. I feel like you just wanted to tell us that your husband has a large penis and you just really wanted us to know that. And then she said. And then I was like. I was at the end of my show, and I was like, all right, guys, you know, I have to go. I said, and I was going to stay, but it's because of her. Because of her, I feel uncomfortable. And now I'll be leaving.

[Monet X Change]

Do you have a. You need to be well endowed to do genital origami.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't really know what general origami is. I'm assuming it's twisting your dick up into stuff. And I assume you have to have a lengthy enough penis or a vagina. But she said this true? I don't know. I'm assuming we said general origami. I'm assuming it refers to the twisting up of the penis because, I mean, it might be hard to twist up a vagina, but I think you can

[Monet X Change]

more like mold it to look like to. I mean, I don't have a message. I don't have many experiences.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is true. You probably. You could probably mold them and pinch them and push them to. To make things. But I'm assuming that if you want to tie. I'm assuming it's kind of like balloon animals.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, there was that. That thing on hbo. Puppetry, the penis. Well, it was a real sex.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She did tell me to go home and Google genital origami, and I never did. So I'm actually doing it right now. So to the lady who interrupted my show in Nashville, I am now Googling genital origami. Oh, it is puppetry of the penis. I think her husband was just in the show. Puppetry of the penis.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I used to be obsessed with the little real sex clip on HBO back in the late early 2000s. I would, like, watch it in the room with the quiet and watch them do this. It was really engaging to me. I had a heck of a night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that the lady who interrupted my show is one of the. She's dating one of the guys who originated or created or does the show. Puppetry of the penis. That's what I'm thinking. Interesting. At the Great Outdoors.

[Monet X Change]

I had a heck of last night. She was this woman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, am I boring you? Am I boring you?

[Monet X Change]

You are with this bull. Bur. And this woman. She was. It was. It was her birthday, and she. She just had to let us know it was her birthday. And then. So I'm doing my stuff. And then she. She's like, standing up. This is an outdoor show. And unlike. And like, in comedy clubs and whatever, you can typically see the first couple roles. But how this was lit. You could see, like, a lot of people. And then she's, like, getting up. Like, everyone is. Cause it was seated. It was a seated, outdoor thing. And she just gets up and she's just like. And I was like, girl, you are making noise. I was, like, doing bits and forth back with her, and I was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was like.

[Monet X Change]

She's like, monet. Monet. I was like. I was like, you are interrupting everyone. What. What do you have to tell me? She's like, it's my birthday. I was like, yeah, we all have one girl. And then she's like, well, it's my birthday today. I was like, okay. And then I forget what she said, but. But then security came out, and they, like, had to. They were gathering her. Like, I think she was being. She was doing something not right to the people back by her and in security, Like, I made her sit down and I finished my set, and Priyanka went to introduce jvn. And then Priyanka engaged with her and brought her up to the stage and. Cause you cannot give these people power. She's like, oh. Cause now the behavior that I'm doing is giving me the spotlight. So Priyanka's talking to this bitch on the stage, and then she's telling everyone that she's here on a date. And she's like, but the date's with my boss. And I was like, oh. And then. Which is a strange situation. Anyways, then they have a haircut. I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I have this one that did one time, which is one of my favorite moves I've ever done for a heckler who was telling me it was their birthday. And they were like, it's my birthday. And I was like, of course I didn't Care. But I was like, oh, it's your birthday. And they were like. She was like, yeah. And then I was like, all right. So then I was. I started, like, meeting her on the way out to the audience, and I was like, let's all sing Happy Birthday. And then I walked her. I was like. And I was like, well, you know, we actually have cakes, because sometimes. Or cupcakes, people who want to celebrate their birthdays with us. And we're singing Happy Birthday. And then I walk her to this door where the cakes are, and then I open the door, and she goes out, but it was just an exit. And then I just closed the door on her, and she couldn't give a.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, that's so mean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Open the door. She just went into, like. I don't know where she went. Outside. And I closed the doors outdoors into the unknown. That was one of my favorite moves I've ever done, for sure. And then there's. There's a video on me called, like, I think, Bob the Drag Queen. If you Google Bob the Drag Queen heckler or if you go to YouTube, type in Bob. Let me see Bob the Drag Queen. There's a video of me versus a heckler years ago on my YouTube page. I mean. Yeah. How to deal with a drunk at your show. It's called how to deal with a drunk at your show from eight years ago. It has 128,000 views. And, you know, I feel like I do think that there. I don't think everyone needs to be doing stand up. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

I agree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that a lot of people want to do stand up, because I think a lot of people just think to themselves, it's going to be easy. Like, it is so easy. And I would say, you know, you really know if you can do stand up. If you go into a crowd, that has nothing to do with you. Especially for drag queens. I always say, if you are doing drag, if you want to do stand up and you're a drag queen, I'm telling you right now, you have to be doing stand up out of drag for straight audiences or for people who have no clue who you are. If you're just doing Drag Race, if you're just doing stand up for Drag Race fans or for people who know you and love you, you'll never get funny. You have to be doing stand up for people who have no clue who you are. I really firmly believe that. Have you ever done about a drag? Would you ever do it?

[Monet X Change]

I would just end up out of Drag, for sure. I just like. I like getting a drag. I like putting on cute clothes and being a beautiful woman. It's something that brings me a lot of joy, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, that's not what I'm asking. I'm not asking if you want to feel like getting a drag. That's not the point. That's not the point. We're kind of just like Rick, back

[Monet X Change]

and forth with each other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What I'm saying is, like, if I go, like, if I go do, like, if I go do, like, for example, I did at the, at the LA Comedy Festival, I did like 15, 20 minutes at Margaret Cho show. And I was like, I'm not getting a drag to do 15 minutes at the top of Margaret Cho show. And no one here even know, probably even knows who I am. You know what I mean? And also, I want to be comfortable all night long. I don't want to be in heels. I want to. I just want to have a good time and have a good night. And I'm not getting paid. So I just did it as like a bit like I popped in and said, hey, Marc, Marco, I can keep you some time. You know what I mean? So for that, I'm not going to get in drag, but for all my own shows. Yeah, I'm going to be in drag for those.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, there's. I mean, also because. Also because I'm not. Because the stakes, I mean, not that the stakes are low, but when you're, like doing standup, it's not like I had to think about, oh, choreography. And I have to think about wearing a practical shoe. So I can do this thing. I can kind of wear, like something that feels a little impractical for me and do something I wouldn't typically wear because I'm not like jumping around trying to do a split, trying to do a 5, 6, 7, 8. I'm just like, in like a gorgeous look. You know what I mean? That's why I really enjoy it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But would you do. But would you. You should do some stand up in LA out of drag?

[Monet X Change]

I would.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You pop in at some spots and do stand up out of drag?

[Monet X Change]

I would for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me know. Well, not that I'm gonna be home anytime soon, but I've been doing the Comedy Store lately, which has been really fun for me.

[Monet X Change]

The Comedy Store.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just like. Yeah, I love the Comedy Store. The Comedy Store is a great spot.

[Monet X Change]

I went to Hot Chocolate. Oh, no, sorry. Chocolate sundaes at the Laugh Factory a few weeks, a few months ago. And it was Such. First of all, it's like a. It's like one of the hardest spots to like, get in to do like a set there. It's. It's. They've built it up to be like this really thing. This, like, fucking dope night. But it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you did it? You did a set there?

[Monet X Change]

No, I went to it and the comedians there were just so fucking funny. It was such a great night. It's like Sunday nights at 9pm at the Laugh Factory. Well, I think there's two shows, like a 7:30 at 9. I think it is a 10:30 as well. Well, I went to the 9 o' clock show and it was just so good. Like, I was like, I want to go to this all the time. It was just such a. Such a great metal comedy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought I used to be at the Comedy Store. You sure it's the Laugh Factory? Maybe it moved or maybe I'm. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

[Monet X Change]

It's the Laugh Factory for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I thought it used to be at the Comedy Store.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe when I saw it a few months ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I also cannot believe how many used to be. Well, who knows? I cannot believe how many comedy clubs I fucking work at. The work at that don't even exist anymore. It makes me feel like an old fucking Betty.

[Monet X Change]

The where in New York?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, girl. Caroline's Comedy club is closed.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, Caroline's did close. Did they close after the pandemic because they couldn't afford it anymore?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. I don't know why they closed, but they did close after the pandemic. Yeah, or during the pandemic. Yeah. And then Comics Comedy Club. I used to work at Comics Comedy Club back in, like, woof. 2010, 2011. They closed year. They closed way before the pandemic. The place where I filmed my first comedy special is closed. The place where I filmed my second comedy special is closed.

[Monet X Change]

I would say you closed them down. Yeah, Caroline's. They were open for 30 years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, not Aw. Did you ever perform at Caroline's?

[Monet X Change]

I think Pat and I did. I did perform in Caroline's. I don't remember what it was for, but I did do. Why did I perform it? This is why I need to really need to get my memory together. I need to, like, text Patty with her. Patty, why did we do Caroline's? She's like, girls, because we did the. I don't remember though. I was at Caroline's. I don't remember why.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you doing stand up?

[Monet X Change]

No, it was not stand up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Once got thrown out of Carolina's Comic Club.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was banned from Caroline's Comic Club. I was banned from Caroline's Comic Club.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I interrupted. Because I interrupted Tracy Morgan's show. I was a heckler.

[Monet X Change]

Why? What did he say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was once a heckler. Have you ever been a heckler?

[Monet X Change]

No. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you've never been on this. On that side of the heckle?

[Monet X Change]

Why were you heckling him?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I. Tracy. It was right after Tracy Morgan said that he would stab his son to death if he. If he was gay. And I didn't think that was funny. And he was booked at Caroline's on the day of the Gay Pride parade while he was in all this heat. And I was like, not this. Not Caroline's. Booking him on Gay Pride Sunday. So I left the parade, and I went to a show where I had a ticket and I had a poster of this boy who had been stabbed to death because he was gay. And I. When he was like, 10 minutes into the show, I walked up to him and I handed him the poster of the guy who had been stabbed at it because he was gay. And I asked him if he thought it was funny.

[Monet X Change]

What did he say?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And he took the poster from me, and he propped it up on the chair, and he made a joke about it. I don't remember the joke. I was terrified because his bodyguard was standing directly behind me. Like, he was a massive man standing right behind me. I was in full drag, too, by the way. I was in a full drag. His bodyguard was standing right behind me. And the reason I was mostly scared was because I was gonna glitter him. I had it in my mind I was gonna glitter him. Do you know what glittering is?

[Monet X Change]

You just throw glitter on someone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you. You cover someone who's shamed queer people in glitter. And I had one of those confetti cannons that used to shoot the confetti out, but I emptied out all the confetti, and I. I packed it. I had packed it with very, very fine glitter.

[Monet X Change]

How did you. Those have a foil over. How did you. How did you. Doesn't that comp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just pulled. I just peeled the foil. I just peeled the foil off or punctured it, dumped it out, and then. Because the foil isn't what makes it. It's what keeps the confetti from falling out. Right? I just pulled it off, emptied out the confetti, pumped in a bunch of glitter. This is my activist days, by the way. I would not do this today. These are my activism days. And I. And I had my hand in my purse, and I was shaking, and I was so scared, and I chickened out, and I didn't do it. The last minute, I was gonna pull that confetti cannon and just right to

[Monet X Change]

the face, they would have you. They would have maybe thought it was a gun. You'd have been fucking arrested.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I didn't. I didn't. Well, that's why I was scared. I was gonna do it over his head and just have the confetti. Honestly, that would have been so.

[Monet X Change]

That have been. That have been, like, not a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. The point of it is that. The point of it is that you're now covered in glitter. The whole point. Because, again, it wasn't confetti. It was glitter. So the whole point of it isn't that, like, you're, like, scared. The point of it is that now you look. You look like the people that you're making fun of.

[Monet X Change]

This, like, this is fierce. Like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And then glitter. But this action.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you mean slightly glittering someone.

[Monet X Change]

You're like, he's standing there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think Tracy Morgan knows who I am to this day, but if I ever did run into him, I don't think he'd recognize me.

[Monet X Change]

An amendment to what I said earlier, the last time I performed for a lot of straight people who probably didn't know who I was was the French Festival. So if you guys don't know what the Fringe Festival are, it is like, Fringe Festival.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it.

[Monet X Change]

Is this what Edinburgh Fringe Festival is held in Edinburgh, and there are, like, thousands of shows, people coming from all over the world, and you may not. It's like, to go see experimental theater or theater that you may not have seen otherwise. So oftentimes, the people who are coming to this, they. Some people do know who you are, but some people don't. So just coming in to, like, watch the show. And a really nice thing that we were getting about my show, people were like, I really enjoyed that. I don't know who Monet is. I didn't know who she was before, but I do like her now. It was really funny. So I guess that's probably the last time I performed for a lot of straight people who may not have. Who did not know that I was from Drag Race. They just saw me up in drag. I was like, that's a really pretty lady, and she's funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Straight guy.

[Monet X Change]

And tall straight guys who don't know

[Bob the Drag Queen]

who you are love to be like, I had no clue who you are. I don't know anything about you. I don't know you from a hole in the wall. I. I don't know. Even if you would have died yesterday, the news would have never made it to me. If you would have been just had a heart attack, fallen off your bed, passed away, and died in your hotel room, the news that you were a dead person would have never made it to me. That's how clueless I am to who you are. But you were very funny.

[Monet X Change]

They do. I think, as you know this, they

[Bob the Drag Queen]

really be thinking that. They be thinking they are giving the. They'd be like, bitch, I just gave the only compliment down.

[Monet X Change]

They want to signal that they're not a fag. Just so you know, I'm not a fucking faggot. That's why I don't know who you are. But I still liked you, buddy. Buckaroo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you have someone write for you?

[Monet X Change]

I would for sure I would have someone write for me. I think that kind of, like, with makeup, I'm like, I would be nervous about it not sounding like me. Like, that's my fear. Like, someone else does my makeup. Anytime someone else does my makeup, I'm always like. Which is not been a lot of times. It's been a handful of times. I was like, this is fine, but it doesn't look like me, and I don't like it. But I guess with jokes or something, writing for you, there's a little more nuance in that, because you can change things to your voice that sound like you, but having someone's like, a whole thing for me seems a little like. But I want it to be me. And also, yeah, I want it to sound like me. I want it to be me. How about you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're pretty comfortable taking my jokes for the first part of your career in New York City. You. You didn't seem to mind that.

[Monet X Change]

Really name some of those, because that does not happen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just. You just mopped them up. You just used them like they were yours. I was like, oh. I said, oh.

[Monet X Change]

I said, bit you wish.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

By the way, there's no. There's no shame. I'm incredibly inspirational. I understand.

[Monet X Change]

No, you're perspirational. Perspirational.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, you are literally the queen of soak it. Soak up. Soak, girl. Soak what up? Okay, don't. I know you're not talking about Nobody Sweat. Forgive me.

[Monet X Change]

I was sweating while I was dancing. You got me so weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. I've seen you, Monet. I've seen Monet. I've seen you. Fucking. I've seen you peel a banana and break a sweat. Okay, I've seen you take a deep breath.

[Monet X Change]

Whole tour footage, Everyone in the first 10 rolls of the Sigma rivalry show is the footage of you sweating like you done fucking swam from here to fucking to Manhattan after the first number. Sweaty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you draw. Are you drying those pictures? No. Are you drying those pictures?

[Monet X Change]

But the difference is I am and I. I'm acknowledging that you're not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, okay.

[Monet X Change]

On stage, when did it sweat?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've seen you. I've seen you shut the car door and break a sweat. Okay, I've seen you. I've seen you open an envelope and a bead rolls down.

[Monet X Change]

I have a hard thought on this podcast. Are you sweating someone?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey, I've seen you in a well air conditioned room breaking a sweat, reading a book.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, bitch, I've seen you on an Alaskan cruise, sweating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've never been on a cruise.

[Monet X Change]

I haven't, but I've seen the pictures and they were sweat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I know that about you.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you never invite me. You invite all your other little friends. You invite Jacob, you invite Kennedy, you invite all your little friends, Mitch, but you never invite me to go on a cruise.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, first of all, Jake was my partner. Kennedy's working.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so. Oh, so Jacob's not your friend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did invite Ocean.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob's not your friend. Confirmed. Good to know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're not friends, Jacob. You heard it. I do not talk to Jacob. Every time I talk to Jacob is when I'm here talking with you. Me and Jacob at home. When we sitting at home together in the same room. Jacob and I do not share. We don't even look at each other. They better not look at me either. Wow.

[Monet X Change]

I cannot believe you denounce Jacob as a friend to you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

Interesting, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, whatever. If you weren't friends with your men, you'd be able to keep them.

[Monet X Change]

Like that. Jacob sounds like a real housewife. Or somebody sounds like a Real housewife of Richmond.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A patron. You can go watch several of me and Monet's solo shows available on the Patreon. Call me by Monet. The entire show is available on the Patreon. If you're already a patron, you might as well go ahead and watch it. If you're not, come join. You can see Crazy Black lady, my solo show, which is these. Both shows have both comedy in them. And then you can also see my stand up comedy special, Woke man in a Dress, also available on the Patreon. So you have at least three full Shows that you can go see on our Patreon at any given time.

[Monet X Change]

Patreon. What year was called me was 18. That's why I did that show. 2018. Wow. This feels like a lifetime ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You think we need to make. We need to make a. We need to make a playlist to put at the top or something.

[Monet X Change]

That was six years ago. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that possible, Jacob? Yeah, we can't make that happen for sure. Chick was there. Well, you can, like, search it, right? If you just, like, type it. You, like, type in, like, the name of the shows and they'll pop up or something, right? No, I don't think Patreon Patriot, but I can go through. I think you can, though. Okay, well, we can definitely look into it. I would love to make that happen. How do you search Patreon? All right, now, now. Now we're just. Now we're just talking shop. All right, goodbye, everyone.

[Monet X Change]

Goodbye, bitch.

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