The One About Superheroes

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: "The One About Superheroes"

January 26, 2022

Overview

In this characteristically hilarious and energetic episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dive into the world of superheroes, blending their signature wit with tangents on music, acting, nightlife antics, and pop culture. The episode features a rich mix of opinions on DC vs. Marvel, discussions about favorite (and least favorite) superhero films, dream casting, and broader musings on what makes a superhero—or a supervillain—truly iconic. Along the way, the discussion veers through music, queer visibility in media, memorable moments from their personal lives, and plenty of shade in both directions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Libraries, Music, and Identity (00:23 – 14:33)

• Libraries Segment
  The episode opens with callbacks to internet drama about Bob’s take on libraries, notably his hot take:

  "My stance is still that the book part of libraries, the book part specifically, seems ridiculous. The rest of the stuff is great."
  (03:35, Bob)
  Monét jumps in to defend the importance of physical books, especially for those without digital access.

• Reggae & Childhood Memories
  Bob unpacks their complicated feelings about reggae, connecting it to childhood trauma:

  "For some reason, like, depressed listening to reggae music...I associate reggae with that time in my life, and I just—oh, I used to really be, like, not reggae."
  (01:42, Bob)

• Choir School, Friendship, and Musical Tangents
  The duo reminisces about school dances and their musical upbringings. Bob critiques Monét’s voice, then showers her with cautious praise about her potential for classical singing:

  "You have the foundational things to have a really strong classical voice. I really do."
  (12:13, Bob)

• Celine Dion, Tina Turner, and the "River Deep – Mountain High" Controversy
  Bob and Monét get heated about which diva sang it best—risking “the internet coming for them” with:

  "Celine's 'River Deep Mountain High' is...it is a better rendition."
  (19:06, Bob)
  They also address the politics of music criticism regarding race and pop culture.

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Relationships, Polyamory, and Queer Culture (05:00 – 10:28)

• Tour Life and Polyamory
  Monét recounts a comic misunderstanding of polyamory while on tour with Alyssa Edwards:

  "So now I wanna hear, is that you playing in my face? You wanna bring diseases to me?"
  (05:13, as Alyssa Edwards)

• Body Counts and Sexual Freedom
  Open conversation about sexual histories and “body count” norms in queer vs. straight circles:

  "I don't think it's that weird for queer people our age to have that many partners."
  (10:20, Bob)

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From Music to Superheroes: Transitioning the Discussion (24:16 – 26:13)

• Music as Superpower
  Playfully, Bob attempts a segue:

  "Singers are like superheroes...music can save someone's life. Now, musicians are the superhero."
  (24:22–24:37, Bob)

• Heavy Metal & Musical Diversity
  The duo debates the value and musicality of hard rock and metal, with Monét defending System of a Down's sillier tracks.

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DC vs Marvel, Batman Obsession, and Iconic Villains (26:13 – 47:26)

• Are You DC or Marvel?
  Both love Marvel, but Bob admits a soft spot for Batman. The discussion covers the saturation of Batman movies and why the franchise endures:

  "Batman has the best villains...the mythology around Batman, the story, the backstory is so good."
  (26:47, Bob)

• Joker Love & Villain Complexity
  In-depth talk about what makes the Joker the best comic book villain:

  "He seems unbeatable...all the Joker wants to do is create chaos."
  (28:09, Bob)

• Batman Movie Histories
  Tangled debate about which directors handled which Batman films, with Bob clowning Monét’s confusion between Christopher Nolan and Chris Columbus.

• Iconic Castings: Jokers and Catwomen

  "I honestly don’t think there’s been a bad Catwoman." (41:46, Bob)
  The two list off their favorite portrayals, with particular reverence for Michelle Pfeiffer and Eartha Kitt.

• Marvel Box Office Success vs DC
  The pair dissect why Marvel dominates: more popular (and plentiful) characters, more kid-friendly tone, and accessible stories.

  "Marvel movies blow DC movies out the water...they're more kid friendly, and Marvel has more successful characters."
  (44:02–44:10, Bob/Monét)

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Queer Visbility in Superhero Media & Dream Castings (48:08 – 62:31)

• Eternals, Wokeness, and Representation
  Bob and Monét comment on the backlash to queer and disabled heroes in Eternals, calling out the “haters.”

  "It changes nothing. They just want to fucking be haters."
  (49:01, Bob)

• Dream Black X-Men Casting
  Playful speculation about an all-black X-Men:

  • RuPaul as Professor X ("Visually, RuPaul might get Storm;" 61:01, Bob)
  • Shaq or Terry Crews as Colossus
  • Megan Thee Stallion as Jean Grey

• Lawrence Fishburne in The Matrix
  Bob mourns the absence of Fishburne in the new Matrix, debating recasting and how iconic actors can't truly be replaced.

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Superpowers, Acting, and the Roots of Superhero Cinema (62:31 – 78:37)

• Superpower Daydreaming
  If they had powers, Bob would want mind control, Monét wants super speed or the power to absorb others' abilities (like Rogue).

• Villains and Dream Roles
  Both agree they'd make better villains on screen, especially in the Batman universe.

  "I really see myself as a villain for sure."
  (54:38, Bob)

• Origins of the Superhero Movie Boom
  They credit either Tim Burton's Batman or X-Men (2000) with launching modern superhero movie mania:

  "X-Men 2000 was the first...that's when we saw this huge superhero thing."
  (55:37, Monét)

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Memorable Quotes & Iconic Moments

• Hot Take on Michael Keaton

  "Michael Keaton is one of the best fucking actors in Hollywood. Michael Keaton is...honestly, for me, Michael Keaton, Viola Davis, Meryl Streep—these are some of..."
  (57:44, Bob)

• Music + Crying

  "If I heard Mariah Carey sing in person, I would start crying. I know. Like, I know. Really?"
  (22:20, Bob)

• On Polyamory and Monogamy

  "Making sex special again...just having it with that person. I love it. 10 out of 10 would recommend."
  (08:01, Monét)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro, Library & Reggae Talk – 00:23–04:06
• Tour Life, Polyamory, Relationships – 04:58–10:28
• Musical Influences, Voice Praise & Celine v. Tina – 12:12–20:00
• Superheroes: DC v. Marvel, Villains, Joker Analysis – 26:13–29:50
• Batman Movie Directors Rumble – 31:34–34:09
• All-Black X-Men Fan Cast – 61:12–62:57
• Superpower Daydreams – 37:44–40:06
• Acting Legends & Dream Roles in Superhero Cinema – 55:24–56:50

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Notable "Sibling Rivalry" Exchanges

• On being accused of villainy:

  Bob: "If you were a superhero, based on your personality, what do you think your power would be?"
  Monét: "I don't think I'd have a power. I feel like I'd be a hero if I had a superpower."
  (37:44–38:05)

• On music as power:

  "Singers are like superheroes...music can save someone's life."
  (24:24–24:37, Bob)

• On Jared Leto as Joker:

  "Jared Leto was such a small part of that movie...like a very small, like, Joker."
  (42:37, Bob)

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Final Thoughts & Superhero Fatigue

• Bob admits predictability of superhero movies is a given, but sometimes that’s comforting:

  "Yeah. So when I watched Black Panther, I was watching. I was like, I know everything's going to happen...But I didn't mind."
  (69:05–69:21, Bob)

• Both agree that the best superhero movies balance spectacle and character acting, with Batman films (especially those featuring Heath Ledger’s Joker) standing out for their psychological depth.

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Atmosphere & Closing Vibes

As always, Bob and Monét’s banter is fast, irreverent, and full of personal digressions, with a healthy dose of pop culture analysis and the kind of shade only “siblings” can throw. This episode is a treat for superhero fans, movie buffs, and anyone who appreciates two drag icons debating the finer points of comic book history, queer visibility, and who really should be the next Storm.

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Unofficial Tagline:
"I love you very much." / "I love you too, Roberta." (81:39–81:44)

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Summary by Sibling Rivalry Podcast Summarizer

Transcript

[A]

My name is bob the drag queen. And I'm monet x james. And this is sibling rivalry.

[B]

On this week's episode, Bob is back for libraries. Libraries, Libraries.

[A]

We talk about superheroes, and we find

[B]

out what made Bob say this.

[A]

I said it before on this podcast, and I will keep saying this over and over again. Michael Keaton is one of the best fucking actors in Hollywood. And we find out what made Monet say this.

[B]

We're gonna hate black people. We hate black women, apparently. From this comment.

[A]

Bob. Can you name any Bob Marley songs?

[B]

Bob Marley songs?

[A]

Yeah. Can you sing any of them?

[B]

Please don't worry about a thing.

[A]

Not the main one.

[B]

One love, obviously. One love, one heart let's get together and feel all right I don't know. I grew up on Bob Marley. I can't even think about all of them. Do you know any of his brother's songs? Like, Skip?

[A]

I.

[B]

Skip is his son.

[A]

Sorry, I don't really know it much. I think I know, like, maybe three. Three or four Bob Marley songs. I'm not, like, a huge Bob Marley fan. One of my favorite. One of my favorite songs is a

[B]

Bob Marley song, though, which is.

[A]

What Is this? Love?

[B]

Oh, yeah, he's.

[A]

It's a very good song.

[B]

Is this love? Is this love? Is love. Do you know. Did you grow up on reggae?

[A]

No. I have. I have one on who listen to reggae, and I think I have some, like. I think I have some bad memories with reggae or something.

[B]

Reggae is in. Is very homophobic. It is transphobic. It is. Reggae is terrible.

[A]

I think it. For me, it's tied to something else because, like, I used to get, genuinely, as a kid, for some reason, like, depressed listening to reggae music. Like, I. I would get, like. It would just make me, like, depressed depressed. I hate. I really hated hearing reggae music growing up, and I think that it was because I spent a summer with my father, and he loves reggae music. And that summer was. It was a. It was the worst summer of my life. And I really. I think I associate reggae with that time in my life, and I just. Oh, I used to really be, like, not reggae.

[B]

I cannot listen to reggae in high school. Like, when y' all had school dances in high school, and there's, like, that. That song that every. Every high school kid across America knew.

[A]

We have more. I feel like we have more dances in middle school than high school. I feel like high school was, like, the prom.

[B]

Yeah, I guess. No mind. We would have one in the fall and one in the spring.

[A]

Work

[B]

the name of the Song Got somebody. She is a beauty Very special. Really and true.

[A]

Is that reggae? Yeah.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Maybe it's in New York.

[B]

Maybe it's in New York. Obviously, there's a very big West Indian population in New York. Yeah.

[A]

Not a lot of West Indians in. Not. I'm not saying there are no West Indians in Atlanta.

[B]

I just want to say, guys, you'll be upset. In the West Indian community, they'd be coming at that ass.

[A]

They don't.

[B]

Yes, they do.

[A]

I have not.

[B]

If you were sitting and you. And you came up Bob's ass comment below.

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And if you were literally anyone else in the world, you came Monet's ass comment below.

[B]

Well, a lot of people have come on my ass.

[A]

Oh, my God. You know who did come on my ass?

[B]

Librarians. Oh, they would Photoshop the picture of you and burning up the library of Alexander. Yeah.

[A]

The librarian community really was, like, mad mad at me. I was like, y' all are wild.

[B]

Books are important. Do you. Do you. Do you. Do you agree? How do you feel about libraries today?

[A]

I want to say this. My stance is still that the book part of libraries, the book part specifically, seems ridiculous. The rest of the stuff is great.

[B]

Did you read any of the things people said to you about it? Why the book parts aren't there?

[A]

It's other stuff. It's like computers and career stuff. And I agree with all that. That stuff was great. But the books work.

[B]

Other.

[A]

Like physical books.

[B]

No, but there. But. But sometimes people don't have access to things like tablets and Kindles to. Or to get ebooks, so they need physical books to read.

[A]

Maybe the library can lend out tablets

[B]

and Kindles, or maybe they can't. Or maybe some people. I mean, I don't know. I'm not a librarian. I don't work. I don't work in a library. Never have you never.

[A]

And you will never be a librarian. You literally could never be a librarian.

[B]

You know, doctors came from me, so, you know, Doctors Without Borders doctors came from me. For me, my antibiotics.

[A]

Oh, bitch. That was just regular old people. I don't think you had to have a degree in medicine or be a pharmacist to know that. You should finish your antibiotics. I'm not a nurse.

[B]

I'm not a medical doctor.

[A]

But I have a fierce queen.

[B]

But I'm a fierce queen. But I'm an infected queen.

[A]

It was really great to see her at the We're Here premiere. My God.

[B]

I just torn with Alyssa. Alyssa is. Oh, my God. So we're on the bus, right? I don't know. I don't know how. First of all, I love touring with Alyssa because Alyssa is very funny to me, especially because I. Naomi knows this. I love chaos. Like, I like being on tours and, like, chaos happens. I think it just cracks me up when people, like, there's, like, meltdowns or whatever. Alyssa's very funny. And we would go to Barry's Boot Camp every morning together, whatever city we were in, and then went out on the bus. I don't know how, but we got on. The topic of polyamory. Blew Alyssa's mind. She could not process it. She was like, so, baby. So, no. So now. So now I wanna hear, is that you playing in my face? You wanna bring diseases to me? That is what I'm hearing.

[A]

She was just going.

[B]

And I was like, alyssa, no.

[A]

That is such an extreme.

[B]

It was leap. It was so funny.

[A]

Well, I was talking to her. I went backstage. So we did. Me, Jacob and Ezra all went to the Christmas tour. Christmas Queen show, tried to drag Queen Christmas. And Trinity, for some reason, literally points

[B]

to one of the first.

[A]

Yeah, Trinity does this thing. I mean, I can't speak for her future tours, but on this Christmas tour, every time Trinity comes out, she asks them to bring up the house lights. I mean, like, literally, she like, hey,

[B]

everybody, how y' all doing? Bring up.

[A]

Bring up the house lights. And then she'll leave stage. She introduced the next girl come out, and she'll go, babe, bring up these house lights again. And it got to the point where every time she came out, they would just bring up the house lights because she kept. I don't know. It was.

[B]

She loved the house. I was making a joke. I was like, listen, for Christmas, y'.

[C]

All.

[B]

Everyone get her light bulb. We should get her light bulb.

[A]

Yeah, probably house light. So she was like, who's here? Who's here? I heard, Bob the drag queen's here. And then she. And then she's like, she couldn't find me. She's like, where's Bob? So then people around me see me. They start pointing to me, and then everyone else. And then next thing you know, like, everyone's like. So she's like, oh, Bob's right there. Hi, Bob. And I was like, oh, that's. That is that. That is weird behavior. So during the animation, when it was like, if you want, Bob, you can come. You can come on stage. So I ran and I got on stage. I went back there, and Alyssa was back there. She goes down, Ms. Bob, baby, I heard that you had two Boyfriends that you. Wait, hold on, hold on. I now heard that you had two partners. You got two partners? And I said, yeah, I have two boyfriends. They're both here now. Which one do you. Is your main partner or something? I said, no, they're both my brother. We're actually. They're both here tonight. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They are both here tonight. And I mean, it was literally like. I just told her that I. That I, like, solve the common. Like, cure the common cold or something.

[B]

Yeah, it's wild.

[C]

She.

[B]

She can't process it. She's like, oh, baby.

[A]

No, I can't.

[B]

I can't. It's not for me.

[D]

Back.

[A]

Are you in, Andy open yet?

[B]

We're not open.

[A]

I said, yeah. When are y' all gonna open up?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

When are you opening your borders? What if someone really fine is in the comments? They want to slide in? No, but then maybe you'll have a conversation about you want to open up because this really beautiful person.

[B]

I'm not interested in that.

[A]

What if they are, like,

[B]

not interested?

[A]

What if Michael B. Jordan.

[B]

Not interested? I'm not interested in that right now, Bob. I could.

[A]

If Michael B. Jordan pass.

[B]

Yeah, I'm currently committed to my partner right now. We're not open, so I'm not interested. That's not it. That's not. That's just a fact, babe.

[A]

And you're, like, just not interested in, like. Can I tell you what it is? You don't have eyes for anyone now.

[B]

I'm gonna say I don't have eyes for anyone. I'm just saying what it is, is that I am. We are super committed to each other this moment. And what I have noticed is that I was trivializing sex so much before because sex was such an easy thing to get. Bitch, you can go online, you can go on Grindr. You can get sex anywhere. And also. And you know, this being on the show and stuff, people, whatever they want to get a Sluggity server, cannuli or whatever, and having. Committing to just having sex with this person and making that special again. And I fucking love it because again, I was just having so much meaningless sex before. It was so crazy. Making sex special again and just having with that person. I love it. 10 out of 10 would recommend. Love, love, love it.

[A]

Well, sorry, Michael B. Jordan, please that shit away.

[B]

What? What do you think your number is in your whole life so far? Maybe like more than a 500.

[A]

No, no, no. Jesus Christ. No.

[C]

Bob.

[A]

No, no, no, no, Bob, no, no.

[B]

Your number is less than 500.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

No way. There must. Bob, you have a lot of sex.

[A]

Honestly. Comment below if you give me that sucking serpent.

[B]

You've had a lot of sex. I know you have.

[A]

Not more than 500. Monet. That's a lot of people.

[B]

That seems like a lot of people.

[A]

But, Bob, you. It's between 100 and 200.

[B]

Yeah, I would say about. For me. Yeah, for me, probably about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's a lot of people, though.

[A]

I mean, you see people online being like, what's your body count? They're like, oh, thank God. I'm a 20. I'm like, 20. Girl, girl.

[B]

No.

[A]

Fire island weekend girl.

[B]

Right?

[A]

A cruise girl. Girl. To Puerto Rico.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I would say probably like a little over 100.

[A]

Maybe you think you're closer to 100 or close to 200. But I also don't think it's that weird for queer people our age to have that many partners.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

You know what I mean? I think that for. For sis hets, this is probably very strange behavior. You think? Yes.

[B]

Not now.

[A]

I think so.

[B]

I think cishet people nowadays. I don't. Because, again, in my. In just. I mean, I am older, so I know more people who are married, But a lot of my cishet married friends, they have. Not a lot. Okay, maybe not a lot. At least five or six of them. They have open marriages.

[A]

How many cisgender heterosexual people do you know?

[B]

I went to college.

[A]

Bitch, I went to college, too. Don't you ever try to read me again. I went to college, too. We also went to an art school.

[B]

Yeah, but it was. But it was a choir school, and there were a lot of cis had people in choir school because they.

[A]

Because I met your fucking straight guy friends.

[B]

What? Straight guy friends?

[A]

I can't remember who I met one time. I don't know who it was, but he was like, Bob the drag queen. Heavy. Me and Monet went to choir school.

[B]

Like, El.

[A]

Yes. He had it.

[B]

Bobby Juliet.

[A]

And then whoever that person was. Okay, I'm not saying, hey, that person left. And then when I was like, yeah, he's straight. And I was like, I'm sorry, what? He was like, oh, this holly baby, boop boop, skiddly doop. And I'm not saying there's a way.

[B]

It wasn't that. It was. It was someone else from. Yeah, I know who.

[A]

I was dumbfounded. I was floored.

[B]

I think. I think. I think he, like, he randomly came out to the club one time, and I was like, oh, My God.

[A]

But girl, he is a. Like, he was one of the girls. He was a material quarrel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And when it was like. Well, he identifies as straight. And I'm not. I'm not saying I'm not.

[B]

When he did back then. I don't know what he's. Where he's at now. I don't know his life. But he did back then.

[A]

She was wild.

[B]

Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Anyway, he's a really good pianist. Is he?

[A]

Yeah, but I.

[B]

Anyway, all right. Should we get into play? Should we do, like, a classical song?

[A]

Because you have a. You.

[B]

I think you have the foundational principles. You don't have the principles. I think you have the foundational things to have a really strong classical voice. I really do. When you, like, don't do it. Cause you start fucking up your own shit. You just had voice surgery last time you spent the whole rest of the podcast. Monique, I'm telling you not to do it. And like Monet, why didn't you tell me? Anyway, I think that you have the tools to build a healthy classical voice. I really do.

[A]

Thank you. Oh, my compliment caught my cheek. Your ring caught me. That compliment. I think that I want you and I to do. I wanted to be for the Disney episode, but we just never did it. But I wanted you and I to each do a Disney song.

[B]

Oh, yeah, we should.

[A]

And I wanted to cover because I know.

[B]

Which one do you want to do? Be prepared.

[A]

I don't think I wanted it to be that, but now I don't want anymore. Now I want it to be either under the sea or be our guest.

[B]

I think under the Sea would be better for you. I never thought of hyenas. Essential and unspeakably plain.

[A]

They're cruel and unspeakably plain. They're cruel and unspeakably plain. But maybe they've a glimmer of potential. They've allied with my vision and brain. I know that your powers of retention.

[B]

Anyway, listen, I was wet as a warthog's backside, but we're talking kings and succession.

[A]

Sick as you are, pay attention.

[B]

Can I say something really cute really quick? Okay, so, like, one of me and Eddie's, like, first dates or whatever, right?

[A]

We, like, went out to dinner and

[B]

we, like, rode back home, and we, like, played and screamed it in the streets together.

[A]

So one of my favorite things to do is drive in the car with Jacob. And then Jacob, he loves to sing. Jacob loves singing.

[B]

I never heard Jacob sing.

[A]

Jacob doesn't sing for a lot of people. I feel very special to be able to hear Jacob singing. But Jacob, I mean, he be like, singing. He's gonna kill me for that. But he'd be. Jacob be singing. So one day, when we first moved to la, we rented a car to go see Drive and Drag and. And then we.

[B]

With Kennedy and Cass. Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, well, we have the car. Let's just drive around. And you were like, yeah. And we were like, we drive around listening to musicals. And Jacob was singing, and he sings

[B]

and does sign language while he sings. Oh, I can do Jacob. Okay, so let me know what song this is. Every night in my dreams I see

[A]

See you I feel you that. That's what Jacob is dragging Monet right now.

[B]

Okay. To be fair, Linda's in seventh grade. I don't know how much I remember, but that's what Ms. Negri taught us. Ms. Negri was me and Kameka's seventh grade English teacher. Ms. Negri was white as hell.

[A]

Change the name, mama.

[B]

Change the name.

[A]

It ain't worth it. Don't do it.

[B]

Ms. Negri, she was obsessed with the Titanic.

[A]

And people were like, negery, please, Negri. Please, Negri.

[B]

Please, Ms. Negri. And she. And she would. She was obsessed with Titanic for a whole, like, chunk of our year, from, like, September to, like, November. All about that Titanic. And this is English class. I'm like, she wouldn't be learning, like, syntax and pronouns anyway. Yeah. So she. So she told us how to sign. My heart will go on because it's from the Titanic.

[A]

We come back from the break. Tell us Celine Dion's best song.

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[A]

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[B]

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[D]

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[A]

all right, what is Celine Dion's best song like? When you're like, this woman's voice is

[B]

the power of love.

[A]

Power of love.

[B]

The power of love.

[A]

When she go. But also all by myself is pretty close.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. Oh, no, don't do it.

[A]

Yeah. But I was love when she goes. The sound of your heart beating.

[B]

I love what you say. Suddenly also you sing certain things and you become West Indian. You're like, make clear.

[A]

The feeling that I can't go on is light years away.

[B]

Just so y. Jacob. Jacob, that was really good.

[A]

Jacob was like, sometimes Jacob goes, I don't Jacob. When I'll say or do something, Jacob goes, I don't think it's good for the Thrusty.

[B]

Okay. I have a controversial opinion, and Jay thinks I'm wild. He's like, what is wrong with you? Tell me how you feel about this.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Celine Dion's. What's the song? Her and they both. That she took from Tina. Not the Tina Turner song.

[A]

Riverdi Mountain High.

[B]

I think Celine Dion's is better. Thank you. Jay is like, you're crazy. I'm like, I'm sorry. And I love Tina Turner. But Celine Dion's River D Mountain high I just think is better.

[A]

She does it better than they're gonna drag us.

[B]

Oh, they're gonna. We're gonna hate black people. We hate black women, apparently from this comment.

[A]

And we worship whiteness.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But Celine's River D Mountain high is. It is a better rendition.

[B]

I'm sorry about it. It is.

[A]

It is very good.

[B]

It's so good.

[A]

I will say this. Let me maybe not say it is a better rendition. I prefer to listen to Tina Turner's verse. I mean, Celine Dion's rendition of River D Mountain High. I think there's a lot of things going on in there as well. Like, I think that it's because it is recorded significantly later.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

And I think that the specific quality of Tina's River D Mountain High is, like, it wasn't the. The highest quality thing that Tina Turner ever recorded. It was really. The recording was. Was just a little bit lo fi.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think that obviously, Celine Dion has way more range than Tina Turner. Tina Turner is more of a performer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then. And Celine Dion's more of a vocalist.

[B]

I also think this way about Selen.

[A]

Selen, again, Cena is one of the best singers alive.

[B]

Her dance with My Father again, Not. Not. Not dancing. My father. Is that my father? No, it's not. It's another song she did. Maybe. I don't know. There's another Celine Dion song that she covered for someone. I was like, oh, my God. Oh, natural Woman. Aretha Franklin. Aretha Franklin. Celine Dion.

[A]

Oh, Aretha Franklin.

[B]

No. Celine Dion.

[A]

No, no, no, you're wrong on this one.

[B]

Oh, no, bitch, I'm correct.

[A]

Aretha Franklin, her voice was just.

[B]

Oh, it.

[A]

It was in. Listen to Ruth Franklin saying. Oh, yeah. Natural Woman. Looking out on the morning red. It also went with, I love this.

[B]

You also do this. You are the most black mama.

[A]

Oh, oh, baby. Y' all are ready for the baby. When Aretha Franklin would sing for me, my favorite song I heard was Never

[B]

Love the Man since youe Been Gone.

[A]

Oh, it's a really good one to like Aretha Franklin. It's not Kelly Clarkson, since you've Been Gone. It was.

[D]

You think?

[A]

No. Yeah.

[B]

How's.

[A]

How's go again? Since you've been Gone. No, Ruth Brink is like, since you've been gone. Why'd you do it? Baby, baby, sweet baby. That's something that I just got.

[B]

I mean, it's not one of her best ones. She has so many to choose.

[A]

I mean. Oh, Aretha Franklin, her voice. I remember my mom had a Aretha Franklin's Greatest Hits album, and I would. I mean, repeat this cd. Must have been. Yeah. Like, it was. I listened to it so many times. I love her voice. I do think that Celine has one of the best voices alive right now. Great voice, especially in her. Especially in her prime.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I do think that Aretha's rendition of Natural Woman was better.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But also, this is comparing, like, someone who is known as a vocalist with someone who's known as a vocalist, whereas Tina Turner is a. Is a singer. Singer.

[B]

Yeah, she's a More performer.

[A]

She's a singer who. Who performs. She. She. I feel like.

[B]

But she's a performer. Who sings, you mean?

[A]

Well, I mean, I think that what I'm saying now is kind of splitting hairs, but, like, I think, like, a singer and a vocalist, like, Selenium is a vocalist.

[B]

Yeah. And like, J. Hut is a. Is a vocalist.

[A]

Is a vocalist. Whitney Houston vocalist Ryan Carrey. But I was thinking I would the Ritzes. And I was just like, mariah Carey is just like, we are so lucky to be alive at the same time as Mariah Carey.

[B]

That's how I feel about Whitney Houston.

[A]

And then I was like, what do you guys think about Mariah Carey? And they were like, she's fine. I was like, Mariah Carey is. If I heard Mariah Carey sing in person, I would start crying. I know. Like, I know. Really? If I heard Mariah Carey singing, I would start crying.

[B]

Tell everybody what you did about with Kesha.

[A]

I cried during the Kesha concert.

[B]

What song?

[A]

Not praying.

[B]

Praying.

[A]

No.

[B]

What song?

[A]

Blow.

[B]

I didn't see Blow, but I was like, this place about to blow.

[A]

I mean, literally, I was like, back door crack, we don't need a key.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

For free.

[B]

That's how I would be. If I went to a Brandy concert. Brandi was the first CD I ever purchased. Brandy would make me do that.

[A]

I love Brandy.

[B]

It was. Yeah, it was. It was Never say never. It was. I love. I played that album. I. What I would do, I would listen to the album. It was on my old. You know, the Walkman, the one that had, like, the blue thing with the little green jelly things on it. I had that CD player, and I would listen to. Have you ever.

[A]

Have you ever loved somebody so much it made you cry?

[B]

Bob, when I tell you I would be crying, bitch, what am I crying about? Have you ever loved some bitch? I ain't never loved nobody. I would be in my bed bawling. Listen to that song.

[A]

You want to really hear what I used to cry? So you're gonna really, what, you're gonna be like, bitch.

[B]

What?

[D]

What?

[A]

I just recorded the album the New

[B]

Nation by Kirk Franklin. What's on that? Stomp. Yeah.

[A]

And do you want a revolution? Whoop, whoop, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[B]

I don't really know that album.

[A]

Is that my.

[B]

Like, I love my all on it, too.

[A]

You hear about him cussing his kid out. Oh, yeah.

[B]

People were mad. We talk about it. People were mad about. I'm like, you don't know what that

[A]

this kid is raggedy I almost always not. I don't want to say I always have the parent, but I'm like, what did that kid do? What did that kid do? So we're supposed to talking about superheroes?

[B]

Yeah, we're talking about superheroes.

[A]

And you know, musicians, singers are like superheroes.

[B]

Why you ain't do the transition before you looked it up now I'm not impressed.

[A]

Singers are like superheroes.

[B]

I will say that singers, music can be going back to music. I'm about to say music can save someone's life. Now musicians are the superhero.

[A]

I mean, I. I feel like we could talk about music, but I. I feel like you're gonna come from a much more informed place. I'm like a fan. And you're a musician.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I mean, and I'm like, I'm. I'm. I'm just. I'm just a fan of music.

[B]

But I think everyone in this world experiences music. Like, everyone has a lot of opinions about music. Music for sure. I can go to school and learn how to, like, how to.

[A]

You're the kind of music that you're like, I'm not listening to that death

[B]

metal or like that heavy little. I don't hear the music in that. I know. I'm not saying there isn't. For me, when I listen to like music like death, hard metal that just like screaming, I'm like, where is the music? Are you familiar with System of the Down? I am familiar with them and I don't like their music.

[A]

System the down has some bops.

[B]

Like what?

[A]

Like Banana. Banana, Banana, Banana Terracotta Banana Terracotta Terracotta Pie and they're a perfect way of holding you, baby the vicinity of Vicinity of my eyes Terracotta Pie, yeah Terracotta Pie, yeah Terracotta Pie, yeah Terracotta Pie that's a pretty good song.

[B]

I don't know that. I don't want that.

[A]

You should listen to them on the way home today.

[B]

Listen to them? I know, I know.

[A]

You have never driven me around. Take me. Will you Take me get food after this?

[B]

I'm not going back here. But you get an Uber.

[A]

Take me to get food, then drop

[B]

me back off here. No, I got shit to do.

[A]

What? What do you have to do at 10 o' clock at night? You only fucking one person. He busy. We already talked. So what do you have to do? Take me to get food. We're going to Dave's hot.

[B]

That Dave's hot.

[A]

Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm always eating healthy. Tomorrow.

[B]

Every day Is tomorrow okay Superheroes. Are you DC or Marvel? I want to talk about music though. We can.

[A]

I am. I'm Marvel. But my favorite is Batman.

[B]

Why? I don't understand why there's so many Batman movies. People are obsessed with Batman for what they are. This plain boring ass nigga.

[A]

They are the best movies. Batman movies.

[B]

No Avengers Endgame would like to have a conversation Avengers. Infinity War would like to have a Dr. Strange would like to have a conversation with you.

[A]

Spider Man. They consider the fucking children's table that they can do. Why me and Bruce Wayne have a little chit chat arena. Go ahead.

[B]

Talk about why you like Batman.

[A]

Okay. Batman has the best villains. Oh my God. And the. The.

[B]

I will agree he has good villains.

[A]

And the mythology around Batman, the story, the backstory is so good this rich

[B]

that his parents died. So now he wanted not even he. He's a vigilante. I know also birds are vigilante. But he's more so because he.

[A]

Well, not Punisher. Punisher's a cop. Punisher said blue lives matter girl.

[B]

Punisher's a full on cop after so. So that's why you like Batman. Because you like. You like rich people. Batman is Elon Musk. If Elon Musk's parents died and he wanted to avenge him, he thought he made his own little superhero.

[A]

Suit is a little more like the Kingpin.

[B]

Elon Musk is Batman than Batman. Actually, Elon Musk is closer to Batman and then Kingpin.

[A]

No, Elon Musk is a villain.

[B]

Some people will view Batman as a villain.

[A]

Well, he's. Batman is. He's a. He is.

[C]

He's.

[A]

He's a criminal for sure. For sure. He's definitely a criminal. What he's doing is not legal. But he's also working with the cops.

[B]

You're talking about that whole stint when he wasn't. When the cops were like, Batman is an enemy of the city.

[A]

But he's always an enemy of the city. And he's always friends with the president, with Commissioner Gordon.

[B]

He's not always enemy city. There's a point where the people love Batman and he's like.

[A]

But he's still not allowed to do what he's doing. He's not allowed to do that. And he and Commissioner Gordon.

[B]

Stephanie's going to the Justice League. The Justice League. They were allowed to do that.

[A]

He and Commissioner Gordon have been done bin buddies. He is aligned with. With the cops for sure. But also I think what it really boils down to is that the Joker himself is in my Opinion. The best villain in the history of, like, comic books, superhero movies is because I think it's the mystery around him, the lore around him. He also is. He seems unbeatable because I feel like the thing about beating a villain isn't about, like, stopping them or shutting them down or, like, you know, it's about, like, stopping what they want to do. Like, making it where they can't do the thing they want to do. And all the Joker wants to do is create chaos.

[B]

No, he wants to kill Batman.

[A]

Not necessarily. Yes, because in several comics and several movies, he's like, I don't actually want to kill you.

[B]

No, that's not true. Did you watch. Did you watch. Did you watch that Rise. Do you watch the Dark Knight?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He goes, I don't.

[A]

He goes, I want to kill you. But he says out loud, I want to kill you.

[B]

He wants to make his life miserable, and he didn't succeed at that.

[A]

Yeah, but. But you say he wants to kill him. He doesn't necessarily want to kill the

[B]

Batman, but he's not succeeding.

[A]

He tells the criminals that he wants to kill the Batman, but also, it's not even about the Bat. It's not about killing Batman. He's telling the criminal that he wants to kill Batman because he wants to. To scam them. He wants to just take their money and, like. And he doesn't even want the money. That's the thing. He's. He's not motivated by money. He's not motivated by death. He doesn't have. He just has his, like, crazy schemes that he wants to pull off one by one.

[B]

That's also the Riddler. The Riddler is that the Riddler just likes. He likes having fun. He likes. He likes being. He likes making people puzzled.

[A]

Whereas Poison Ivy, she is, like, here for vengeance, for plants. But she's like a. Like a. Like a environmentalist gone wild.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, she's like, you hugging trees.

[B]

But she drew

[A]

and just all, like, not. Not all the villains. Like, I don't really Give us up with the crocodile man. What's his name? Croc.

[B]

Is that Batman or is that the Croc?

[A]

Killer Croc. He's a little.

[B]

Kind of like, all right, this is the shark one, too. What a stupid villain.

[A]

But the Penguin, also.

[B]

Danny DeVito's Penguins was great.

[A]

She was terrified me as a child.

[B]

There's a new one coming out, you know, Robbie, you know, Robert Pattinson is about to be the new Batman. Have you seen a trailer for it?

[A]

Who's Robert Pattinson?

[B]

The guy from Twilight. Edward. Oh, I didn't watch it. There's a whole new Batman series coming out, and he's a Batman. It's like three. It's like Catwoman, played by Zoe Kravitz. Penguin.

[A]

I was in the movie.

[B]

Zoe Kravitz. I know.

[A]

What's the movie, then?

[B]

A rough night. I know your whole career better than you do, bitch. Do you? Zoe Crab is the Catwoman. Someone is a penguin, and it's a riddle. It's, like, for the villains, and it's crazy. Have you ever seen a trailer for this?

[A]

And you love Batman so much. It's a trailer.

[B]

Yes. Let's take a little break so we can watch this trailer, then we'll get back to y'. All.

[A]

Monet, are we back? You cannot watch that trailer and tell me that any Marvel movie has ever come close to that.

[B]

Yes, well, you can, but here's the thing. They're telling two different stories. How DC tells them obviously is a bit darker.

[A]

Not always.

[B]

Not always.

[A]

Because when Chris Columbus was directing them. So the Batman franchise.

[B]

Christopher Nolan, you mean. You said Christopher Columbus.

[A]

No, Chris Columbus did direct Batman movies.

[B]

No, Christopher Nolan.

[A]

Chris Columbus directed Batman movies. Chris Columbus also directed. No, no, no. Chris Columbus directed the one with why I'll Kick Cackling. He directed the Harry Potter movies. He directed Rent, and he directed the ones with, like, Jim Carrey in it. That was.

[B]

I thought that was.

[A]

No, Tim Burton directed the one with Michelle Pfeiffer, Danny DeVito, and the one with Jack Nicholson.

[B]

I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they were crucible.

[A]

Chris.

[B]

Christopher Columbus directs Of America.

[A]

Chris Columbus, Batman. He directed a lot of the ones you name, but I don't see Batman on. He directed the Batman films. If you Google, Chris Columbus, Batman,

[C]

he

[A]

did Harry Potter, he did Rent, and he did the Rise of, like, the really campy Batman movies. Chris Columbus started Batman Forever with George Clooney. I don't think he finished them all, but he did the Batman film.

[B]

Is it on there?

[A]

Batman Forever with Joel Shoemaker, to quote Angie Banks. I'm gonna do my own research. But y' all were acting like there was nobody named Chris Columbus making movies.

[B]

No one said that. We said had that reaction to Batman, which is what you said. Did you like the Dark Knight Rise? The Dark Knight.

[A]

Dark Knight Rises is the best superhero movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Of all time. This is a very good movie. Was in. Was insanely good.

[B]

It was very good.

[A]

I remember going to watch it at midnight.

[B]

He was such. He was just such a Good Joker. And the way that he made. He painted the joke in a way I never thought.

[A]

And who was Batman during that one? Christian Bale, the one. Who, him?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't get back to the.

[A]

I did not love him as the Joker. I mean, as Batman. The voice was. The voice was. The voice was doing too much.

[B]

It was doing a lot.

[A]

Yeah, his. The voice was doing. It was, it was, it was.

[B]

It was a lot.

[A]

The grunting, I wasn't into that. But Heath Ledger and no one thought. He thought it would be good. He make this fine picker, baby. No one thought he thought you'd be good in that film because he was the guy from. Was the Princess Bride or something.

[B]

No, people knew because of Brokeback Mountain, because he had all that critical thing from broke broke back mountains. People knew he could go there, I think so.

[A]

I thought people were shocked because people were shocked. But he. I mean, I was shocked. I'll put it that way. I was shocked. I can't speak for people. I was shocked. But, man, was that movie just for me. That was the game changer when I was like, I. Because before that I was into. I was more into Spider man movies. I was way more into spider movies at the time.

[B]

Do you know how much Toby McGuire got. Got paid to do Spider Man? The first one he made 5 million. Second one he made $17.5 million. And the third one, I forgot how much he made, but it was in that realm. Do you know how much fucking. The new one, the new boy, Tom Holland making, he's made $1 million. The first one, Toby Maguire got in that bag because Kobe. Toby Maguire on the second one, the second Spider man, he got a back end deal which he got 7.5% of the box office.

[A]

I'm pretty sure that the highest paid. I'm pretty sure I know who the highest paid actor in Hollywood is.

[B]

Who? Oh, it's. I know who. One, two, three. One, two, three.

[A]

The Rock. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He makes crazy money. Why? I think it's because he's in huge blockbuster, like all of his movies. I don't know. Because his movies sell a lot. I don't know. Is it not him anymore? Has he been dethroned? Can you guess who the highest paid superhero.

[B]

Oh, the highest paid super actor. I'm going to guess Iron Man. Him.

[A]

I'm gonna say it's. Oh, you think It's Robert Downey JR. Robert Downey Jr. I'm gonna say Chris Pratt. I don't think that's right. But in the meantime. But yeah, so we. I just. So I just watched the trailer and it looks so good. I don't know who that is playing the Penguin.

[B]

But then you're Robert Pattinson. Batman.

[A]

Yeah. Whoever claimed the Penguin. Oh, my God, he's doing. He's doing a great job. Zoe Kravitz looks absolutely so good. They didn't really show the Riddler. They didn't.

[B]

Because that's probably going to be the biggest. The big one.

[A]

Who's bigger than all these names?

[B]

I'll say. Not big in terms of celebrities. Probably like. It's probably like the mains. Because you know these movies.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The main village. Yeah, it's probably gonna be the Riddler.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So I. Because I love Jim. Jim Carrey. Do you remember Jim Carrey's Riddler?

[A]

Do I remember.

[B]

It was very campy, though.

[A]

Like, that was during the. Well, whoever. This guy who apparently wasn't Chris Columbus, went during. It was when arnold Schwarzenegger was Mr.

[B]

Freeze. It was when Uma Thurman was Poison Ivy.

[A]

It was when. Who's the guy from Men in Black?

[B]

Men in Black. Oh, Tom Jones.

[A]

Tommy Jones.

[B]

Tommy Lee Jones was Two Face. Yeah.

[A]

Who else am I forgetting?

[B]

There were so many villains in that.

[A]

No, those are all different. Those. Those. No, Michelle, that was Tim Burton. Freeze and Freezing were one movie.

[B]

And then Tommy Lee Jones and Two Face and Penguin.

[A]

No, no, there's only been. I think Danny Beale has been the only. Only Penguin so far.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Who's the highest paid actor?

[A]

So overall, it's like if you think it's Iron man, but actually the highest one would be Michael Douglas.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Michael? You mean like for one time, one gig, Michael Douglas.

[B]

But you. But he's not a superhero. So it's not a superhero. No, but Michael Douglas played the father. He wasn't Ant Man. Ant man was. What's his name? That guy that Trixie loves. Paul Rudd.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Wait, the dad and Ant man got paid more than Ant Man?

[B]

I mean, he's Michael Douglas. He's a big. He's a fucking blockbuster. He's a big star.

[A]

Yeah, but I mean, so is Paul Rudd.

[B]

I could. Doug, this is a longer career than Paul Rudd.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And has done way more things.

[A]

Yeah, I think that. I think it's not necessarily about who's been doing it the longest. Who has the. Who has the biggest box office pool. I mean, Meryl Streep's been acting way longer than the Rock, but yet somehow

[B]

he gets paid more per movie because he's a Man. Misogyny, probably. If you were a superhero, based on your personality, what do you think your power would be?

[A]

I don't think I'd have a power. I feel like I'd be a hero if I had a superpower. Why are you making that face?

[B]

Good. I'm listening.

[A]

What are you insinuating?

[B]

I'm listening.

[A]

No, I want to know.

[B]

Can you finish? I'll say after you finish.

[A]

No, I'll finish after you finish making.

[B]

You don't get to make the rules, bitch.

[A]

Oh, you make the rules now?

[B]

What's your power? So you're making the rules? Let's ask your question first.

[A]

What are we, third graders? I went first. Me.

[B]

What's your power?

[A]

Can you tell him what you think his power would be?

[C]

First?

[B]

I think your power would be.

[A]

I also want to call something slick. You just did. See, the difference is not saying, if you had superpowers, what would your power? But when they said, if you were a super villain, what would your power be? Yes, you do. Why would I be a villain?

[B]

I did not say villain.

[A]

Run the tapes. Why would I be a villain?

[B]

I did not say villain.

[A]

Run the tables. Why would I be a villain?

[B]

I did not say villain.

[A]

Run the tapes.

[B]

Why would I be a villain? Oh, my God. You're gaslighting me. I know. I did not say villain.

[A]

Run the tapes.

[B]

I don't think you're a villain. I did not say that. Maybe it was a 40 inch lip. I did not say villain.

[A]

Did you not say it?

[B]

Was it a 40 inch? I did not say it.

[A]

Anyways, if you are. I don't.

[B]

If you were a superhero, I don't know what your power would be. I don't know.

[A]

I feel like if I were going to be a villain, I'll go over that track first. I don't think I would have a power. I think I'd be more of a. Something along the lines of like what the Joker does or what the Riddler does. They don't have any powers. They're just really into mind games. They're just really into like manipulating in mind games. And if I had a superpower, it'd be mind control.

[B]

Like. Like Professor X. But you would not be Class 5. You'd be more like Emma Frost. Her type of.

[A]

Okay, first of all, if I was. If I was. If I had a superpower and I was in some sort of a DC realm, I would absolutely be in charge of things. I would be Professor X. I would be right. I'd be running the show.

[B]

Class five. Is not dc. Class five is Marvel.

[A]

I'm letting you know that I would be. I'm just letting you know that I would be running things.

[B]

Who do you think I am?

[A]

Some. Some little B character? No, fully. I'm fully in charge of things. And even, like, the movie's not about Professor X, but he's in charge. I would be. I would be. That would be me. You can be a little Miss Angenu.

[B]

Angenity's nuts.

[A]

You can be. Oh, I just got my powers, and by the end of the movie, they evolve. But for right now, I just can't figure them out.

[B]

I would be class five for sure.

[A]

So what's your power?

[B]

If I was, I think I would have super speed. I'll be like Pietro.

[A]

Why super speed?

[B]

I'm just fast.

[A]

Are you particularly fast? Yeah. Like running?

[B]

Yeah. No, fucking jogging.

[A]

I don't know this to be true.

[B]

I'm fast.

[A]

Like, you're, like, you're known for being fast.

[B]

Or I'll be like rogue. I feel like I'll be someone that would absorb people, people's powers. I'll take your little traits.

[A]

And why is that? Because you're a copycat? Because you've been copy off me your whole career. Actually, that makes a lot of sense.

[B]

I just, I just gave you. Yeah, you're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome.

[A]

Yeah, you'd be rogue. Honey, you're not. I don't think. You're fast. I am fast. You're not slow. But we've raced and, like, you beat me, but, like, barely.

[B]

I beat you.

[A]

And I won't put this. I am very slow.

[B]

You're not.

[A]

I am a very slow runner. But you, you were not a mile ahead of me. You barely beat me. Yes, you beat me. We're all agreeing. You beat me. I am very.

[B]

Where's the proof that I did that? It was, it was just this much. Where's this proof?

[A]

You just admit it. You just called me fast. You were like, you're fast.

[B]

Yeah, you're fast. And I beat you by a big margin.

[A]

I'm telling y', all, I'm not a fast runner. I was the slowest runner in my family, hands down. I have always been a slower. I look like I'd be running fast. I look very tall. And I, I, I am not a fast runner. I'm very slow runner. Notoriously slow.

[B]

Anyway, when did you.

[A]

What villain do you want to play?

[B]

What villain would I want to play? Ooh, I would like to play. I'm thinking about drag I would like to play like a Catwoman. She's just so slippery and very like.

[A]

And I like talking like there. I honestly don't think there's been a bad Catwoman.

[B]

Wait, Howie.

[C]

Howie.

[A]

But I don't think it was her fault. It was the movie.

[B]

Yeah, it was a movie, but it was. She was not a great Catwoman.

[A]

Yeah, it was that movie. That movie was.

[B]

Michelle Piper was great.

[A]

So good.

[B]

Earth Kit great was great.

[A]

Michelle Pfer great.

[B]

And Hathaway was good.

[A]

Great.

[B]

And Zoe looks great.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like Catwoman.

[B]

And I want to see BBL Catwoman. I want to see a thick ass Catwoman.

[A]

And I also don't think there's been a bad Joker. Well, a lot of people say Jared Leto wasn't great.

[B]

I love the Joker movie. Did you like the Joker movie? J.

[A]

A little bit of Joker movie. Yeah.

[B]

Who is. Who? Oh, Jared Leto. I don't watch the Suicide Squad, so I don't know.

[A]

I watched it. He was fine. I mean, Jared Leto was such a small part of that movie. Like a very small, like, Joker. Like, in the trailer, they really made it look like he was like, the end of the trailer, he was like, I'm just gonna hurt you real bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they made it look like. But I mean, he was a. A teeny weeny part of that movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Joaquin Phoenix was so good. Amazing.

[B]

When he gets, you know, the scene when he. When he goes in the fridge. I was completely improv.

[A]

I didn't know this.

[B]

Yes. There's a whole thing about online. I was like, imagine.

[A]

He's like. He'd be uncomfortable to be around when he's acting.

[B]

Oh, yeah. He goes like, he goes there.

[A]

I'm like, I'll see you when you're done.

[B]

Imagine dating him.

[A]

I'll see the rap party.

[B]

You guys are dating him.

[A]

And that's he.

[B]

Because he probably goes home with that. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah. No, I don't want. I would. I would not want that in my life. But he's about to move the table.

[B]

Yeah. He's probably at home, like, laughing at you, like.

[A]

Right. But I did. I. I mean, Jack Nicholson was so good.

[B]

Jack Nicholson was a good joke.

[A]

Ledger was so good.

[B]

Oh, so good.

[A]

Joaquin Phoenix. So good. Mark Hamill. So Mark Hamill did the cartoon. So that famous Joker laugh that we're always hearing from the cartoon is Mark Hamill, who is also Han Solo. Han Solo. No. Luke Skywalker.

[B]

I mean. Got it. Got it.

[A]

And he did the voice of the Joker for the cartoon. Hello. Batsy like that, that, that whole thing.

[B]

Why do you think Marvel movies blow DC movies out the water, like box office appeal? Because they're more kid friendly.

[A]

Yeah, they're more kid friendly. And I think that Marvel has more successful characters.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Than dc. I want to say that.

[B]

Like who?

[A]

I mean, I mean, DC has Batman and Superman.

[B]

Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman.

[A]

Yeah. But I don't think that's quite like. Like they have X Men, which is like X Men itself is like five or like at least five very big characters.

[B]

But I think that's because of the movies like before. I wouldn't call all the. All these, like Dr. Strange, Shang Chi, black. Black. I would know all these.

[A]

Those are big. But I think that X Men is a lot of character that people really love. I think there's also one franchise. One franchise. But then, though, then those people are now all getting. Not all, but like getting movies and stuff.

[B]

Not from X Men. No. X Men is only. Is the only thing every, like all these other ones, like Shang Chi, for example, fucking broke Brock's box office records. And I just saw it.

[A]

Shangchi is so fucking good. Jacob's trying to give me a watch.

[B]

Shangchi. Oh, you got to watch it. It's so good. Do you agree, Jacob? Oh, I love that.

[A]

You know what it was? There was. I watched one Marvel movie and I was like, there was one particular Marvel movie I watched and I was just like, I don't. I think I'm good.

[B]

Which one?

[A]

It was the one where you hate black people. I know what Spider man, when he goes to like the D.C. and they're like in the elevator and then like, I think Spider man goes to maybe homecoming. Maybe wasn't D.C. they went on a school field trip or something.

[B]

It was homecoming.

[A]

Yeah, homecoming. And I was just kind of like, this is. I'm just not into this.

[B]

That was a way that you said only.

[A]

No, I saw that one. And after seeing that Marvel movie, I was kind of like, I'm just not into like, this doesn't. I don't like this. I don't like this. I don't like the vibe of it. I don't like where it's going.

[B]

Well, that's because those Spider mans were different. These, this new series of Spider Man. They're different than Tom Holland. Yeah, Tom Holland.

[A]

They're different still Spider Man.

[B]

Yeah. They're different than the old, like the Toby Maguire and the Andrew Garfield with everyone.

[A]

Maguire was it.

[B]

Oh, because those weren't. Those weren't as. Those weren't as pitch so at such a young age as. Like, the Tobey Maguire ones were for 20s, 30s, and when I felt like

[A]

I watched Tomahawn, I was like, this is not for me. This is for children. This is for actual children. And I don't want to watch this because it doesn't. It didn't. It didn't speak to me where. I feel like Batman and even X Men movies, some of them are, like, geared toward a slightly older audience.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is why I just preferred them more.

[B]

So you didn't see the new Spider man, the no Way Home?

[A]

I've not seen it yet.

[B]

Great. Everyone.

[A]

I'm hearing. I'm hearing really good things about it.

[B]

You want to go see it together?

[A]

We can go see it. And I haven't heard anything bad about Shangchi. I've given. But. But it's something. I'm just kind of like. I just. And I think that I'm trying to think about how I felt about Avengers in Avengers Endgame. Like, I'm trying to think about what it was about it. I was kind of just like, what you don't like. They weren't bad. It wasn't bad. You know, I think it was. Here it is. It's dawning on me. I feel like Marvel movies are often about the spectacle, the graphics, the. The huge CGI battles. And DC movies are really about the acting.

[B]

Disagree.

[A]

I think DC Justice League.

[B]

Justice League movies, bitch. That was only. That was all about the spectacle. There was no story.

[A]

Well, Justice League, I'll give you that. But when it comes to Batman, when it comes to Superman. When it comes to Wonder Superman.

[B]

No, I think that Wonder Woman.

[A]

I think that Wonder woman, especially the 1981. Okay, well, we don't talk about that

[B]

movie

[A]

when we say Wonder Woman. We're talking about the first one.

[B]

We.

[A]

We will never discuss 1984. That was. 1984 was legitimately one of the worst movies I saw that year. I watched it and I was like, this is crazy.

[B]

Yeah. Also bitch, the Suicide Squad was a DC movie. It was all about the spectacle.

[A]

Suicide Squad, they're not like Batman, where

[B]

they're telling the story about the spectacle, about the battles and shit. And a little.

[C]

Little.

[B]

Little flaccid.

[A]

But okay, maybe. Maybe I'm just talking about just Batman. Maybe just Batman is more about the. Can you just clarify your classic comments? People who can't see. No, y' all can join the Patreon. You can join the Patreon. Are we talking about our dicks or our mics? You'll find out

[B]

did you see Eternals?

[A]

Eternals? No.

[B]

What was it?

[A]

Which one was that one?

[B]

It's about the Eternals.

[A]

Oh, this is the one. This is the one that fans were trying to cancel because they. They were. They were.

[B]

There's a gig. The gay couple.

[A]

And there was like someone who was differently abled and they were like, this is the woke.

[B]

Yeah. Which I. I don't know. When people say stuff like that, I'm like, what is your problem? It does not detract from the story.

[A]

It.

[B]

The. The story is still being told. Like, there's nothing.

[A]

Like.

[B]

I. I genuinely do not understand why people get so bent out of shape about having. Making. Having a character be queer. Having a character be deaf.

[A]

Like, what.

[B]

What does that take away from the story for you?

[A]

Because someone said this and it's so true. And this is the only explanation. Haters gonna hate. I mean, can you think of anything else? They're just haters. They literally just want to hate. They have no. It changes nothing. They just want to.

[B]

It changes nothing.

[A]

They just want to fucking be haters. Can we talk for a little bit about one of my all time favorite superhero shows? I don't know if you watched it. The boys watch it together.

[B]

The. Oh my God.

[A]

I can't.

[B]

So good.

[A]

By the way, this whole. We're gonna do a spoiler at the beginning of the episode. That fucking show. I'm baited. Breath and hook for the third season. I am so long. Well, I mean, don't. One of my other favorite shows. Barry.

[B]

I know Barry.

[A]

Barry is. What's his name? Bill Hader. Bill Hader plays an assassin who. Who is trying to like. Who's trying to get out of it. He's trying to get out of the assassin business. So he takes an acting class, but he kind of can't get out of the business. He kind of still has to keep killing people because they're. Because he like, apparently it's a hard business to get out of.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

You know what I mean? So he can't just leave. But he falls in love with this girl and he's now he's like dating this girl. But he's also an assassin, but he's also in his acting classes. So he's like, go and kill someone that has a run home and like finish up the scenes.

[B]

Cute. It is on Amazon as well.

[A]

Hbo. But what I'm saying is between the second and third season, because it got renewed. It has been over two years now.

[B]

Maybe that is crazy, but I think

[A]

it was Covid and But so many

[B]

things have filmed and done it through Covid. But we've.

[A]

You done a whole.

[B]

You done two shows.

[A]

But we did. But we didn't take a season off. Yeah, but we're here. We're here. Took an entire season.

[B]

And these motherfuckers pumping like millions of dollars. Do you know that I recently did a commercial for something and this particular

[A]

project,

[B]

it was for Paramount, for Paramount confirmed. But they did one the year before. Do you know guess how much they spent on the commercial? Valve just the scene is that it's

[A]

like these $100 million more.

[B]

The scene is these celebrities ascending.

[A]

I've seen it guess.

[B]

$290 million. Like that blows my mind for a 2017. $290,290,000,000.

[A]

And after they paid you, what do they do with the other $1 million?

[B]

$1 million. I don't know. But when I hear, I'm like, for this 47, for this 45 second TV spot, you would spend $290 million.

[A]

I've seen the video and I think clearly what they're spending it on is talent because it's all green screen. They're climbing a mountain. No one's on this mountain. But also.

[B]

But the amount of people it takes to make that, like for the day that I went to go film, the amount of people that it takes. We're forceful in this huge fucking blue. I've never been on like a blue skin, a blue screen room. It's like, it's like a huge.

[A]

I mean, it's like to break it to you, but what the person in front of the camera is getting paid

[B]

is crazy versus the people.

[A]

Right? Like crazy. The only person probably making as much money, the person in front of the camera is the director. Right. Like they. I mean, by the way, in just to be clear, in Hollywood, cameramen and camera people, camera operators get paid a lot of money.

[B]

Oh, they sure do. That's what I'm saying. It takes so much money to make

[A]

as much as the people. Like, I mean, when you think about like the Rock, ain't no camera operator making.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, $25 million per movie.

[B]

Yeah. And then, but also. But the funny thing, you have the director, but then behind him you have like seven people from the brand. You have four people from the this that all have to approve the one. So the director likes that shot, right? He has to go to see Bob. Like, hey, Bob, what do you think about this? Bob is like, I think it's good. Hey, Rachel, what do you think about it's like, it's like 25 people have to. Okay, the thing that the director likes.

[A]

It's crazy. So a lot. Because the director is usually. This is specific specifically for commercial. This is not the same as when you. A movie, scripted movie stuff. But when you do it in a commercial, it is all about the brand. And usually the director does not work for the brand.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They are being freelanced just like you. So then the director has to go back and nowadays talk to a zoom.

[B]

A zoom.

[A]

And then there's like a laptop watching

[B]

you the whole time with seven people watching it.

[A]

They never have their cameras on.

[B]

Never.

[A]

They never, never, ever have their cameras on. And they're just sitting there looking at you. And then they go back and the person goes back. They're like, okay, one second they go back and they'll talk to the zoom with like, headphones on. They come back and go, no.

[B]

Yeah. Like, okay, Bob, we love that take, but can you just try saying it with so the person like, I love apples. Bob, we love that. We love that. Can we just get. Just like this time for the apples. Think of them like graham crackers.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I love apples. Okay, hold on.

[A]

Well, use it with me. Is me really trying to push it and I do a lot of jokes that are ridiculous. And then like, we. We're glad that you love apples, but can you not say oranges are shit? Do you think you can. Maybe you can say something without disparaging oranges? Is that possible? And I'm like, I'm sure I can try that for you all.

[B]

But I still have to say, I cannot imagine being on set for like a super. Like, what. What have you got cast as a super. What if they were like, you know, there's that. There's that queer Marvel character, the X Men. A Shade. That was my laugh of myself. Vixen and Shay and Dax. What if they cast that and. Bitch, one of us is a fucking. A fucking Marvel superhero.

[A]

I mean, it'd be really cool. I mean, they're gonna give it to Billy Porter.

[B]

Oh, yeah, baby. You wanna throw shade, mama?

[A]

Gotta let these children know what time it is over. I. I really. I would play a hero, but I really see myself as a villain for sure. Like, I'm.

[B]

Yet if. If I said it earlier, I was so crazy.

[A]

Yeah, you can't say it.

[B]

I can say it.

[A]

Oh, my God. Jacob, shut the fuck up. But I feel like if I was going to be a villain, if I was going to be a Batman villain, and I want. I would want to be A Batman villain. I really would want to be. I. I feel deep in my core that I'd be either good at the Riddler. Mm. And I also think I would be a fucking kick ass two face. I really see that. For me, I really want to be in a fucking. I feel like being in a superhero movie is honestly one of the like

[B]

pinnacles of Hollywood nowadays is because it's become such a big. Obviously we had super movies before.

[A]

I think honestly I'm gonna give this to Tim Burton with the, with. With his first round of Batman movies.

[B]

I don't think. I think this started with the X men. X Men 2000 was the wave of this, of this like huge superhero thing. We never had superhero movies like this before. But X Men 2000 was the first, the first X Men movie with Halle Berry as Storm and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. That's when we saw this huge superhero thing.

[A]

But I will claim nowadays what's happening was they. Okay, they put a lot of big stars. Halle Berry, Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, Famka Jensen, Regan Gray. Was she like really big?

[B]

Yeah, still big.

[A]

I don't know. I hope she doesn't listen. But I feel like what happened was with, with the Tim Burton movies was the first time they were like. Maybe not the first time, please excuse me if I'm getting this wrong, but like one of the first time they were casting these massive celebrities as the villains. So you'd like, wait to see because like, I feel like Christopher Reeves was made famous by being Spiderman.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Whereas Michael Keaton was famous and he was Batman.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then Danny DeVito was famous and he was the Penguin. Michelle Pfeiffer was famous and she was the Catwoman. Jack Nicholson was already famous. And then of course you have Jim Carrey, Uma Thurman, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tommy Lee Jones, your, your English teacher, Ms. Negri.

[C]

All.

[B]

I'm sure she's Negrit. We're in the bed talking about like people, whatever. And Andy goes, you know the actress Ruth? I was like, ruth who, Babe? He's like, you know Ruth. I was like, I don't feel comfortable saying.

[A]

And that's how the white people in your life need to be. Honestly, when we eat chips, Jacob goes, can I get some salt and Vin.

[B]

Vincent?

[A]

Well, you see, I'm sorry, all the actors. So I feel like it was, it was these, these Batman movies were like, now we have like, it inspired people to cast really, really big celebrities in these villain.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Villain roles.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I would agree.

[A]

Michael Keaton Is also just. I said it before on this podcast, and I will keep saying this over and over again. Michael Keaton is one of the best actors in Hollywood. Michael.

[B]

Michael Keaton.

[A]

Michael Keaton was Batman.

[B]

I know. I can't see his face right now. Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. Okay. Yeah, he was Beetlejuice.

[A]

And he was Birdman. Right, Birdman.

[B]

You think Michael Keaton is one of the greatest.

[A]

Michael Keaton is. Michael Keaton is. Honestly, for me, Michael Keaton. Biola Davis, Meryl Streep. These are some of Jim Carrey.

[B]

Jim Carrey's a great actor. Heath Ledger.

[A]

Oh, my God. Forest Whitaker.

[B]

Forest Whitaker is good. Crying. Have you ever seen the Crying Game? No. You know what?

[A]

Forest Whitaker won my heart. Well, tell me about the Crying Game. Go ahead.

[B]

Sorry. Crying Game.

[A]

He played.

[B]

He.

[A]

He.

[B]

He. That's the first. That's the first time I ever became aware of transness and. Because I forget the story, but he falls in love with a trans woman, basically. They start a relationship. And I was like, oh, I didn't know that was a thing in my life. In life.

[A]

I fell in love with Forrest Whitaker after watching the Last King of Scotland.

[B]

Never seen that.

[A]

I watched that movie and I was like, oh, my. Like, I remember being like, how does someone get this? Denzel Washington is another great one.

[B]

He just did Macbeth. You should go see it.

[A]

I'm like, how do you get. He's. He force. Whitaker truly inspired me to take acting more seriously.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. He's just in. He's an insane actor. He's so, so good. Especially in the Last King of Scotland. He was also great in Phone Booth with.

[B]

Phone Booth was with Colin Farrell.

[A]

And Keeper is so good. Yeah. Keeper Sutherland. Colin Farrell.

[B]

He plays the cop.

[A]

Yeah, he plays the cop. But, yeah, I. They're just. I mean, I would love to see him. Monique Heart.

[B]

Monique Heart. Monique is a great actress, too. And, you know, she's been blackballed. Oh, yeah, yeah. Everyone. Yeah, that's. That's. She's been. She's been trying to preach, tell everyone about it, but she's such a good actress. I only ever thought of her as a comedian because of the Parkers and because of the queens of comedy. But hard work and Precious. Monique was so fucking great.

[A]

Actors are comedians. Jim Carrey.

[B]

Yeah. Jamie Foxx, they can go there. Jimmy Foxx is a great actor.

[A]

Fox is a very, very good actor. Yeah. Very, very good for the new.

[B]

Because, you know, X Men is coming back. They're gonna. They're starting a new universe or Is there anyone that you would. That you want to see playing X Men you haven't seen?

[A]

You know, I really feel like it might be too late now. But you're. Maybe it's not. Actually. No, it's not. It's never too late. Years ago, I always thought. But this is also just based on something about the way she looks. I always thought that, you know, I'm about to get ada. I'm about to get ate up for this.

[B]

What?

[A]

I think Toni Braxton would be a good storm. Something about Toni Braxton as an actor.

[B]

She was in why Did I Get Married. She's also Kingdom come.

[A]

She was on Broadway as well.

[B]

She was on Broadway.

[A]

She was Belle and Beauty and the Beast.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Something about Toni Braxton. I also unironically. And I'm not even being funny.

[B]

What?

[A]

I really think RuPaul would be a great storm.

[B]

A great storm.

[A]

I said what I said. I said the sentence and I'm not taking it back.

[B]

RuPaul, you're ridiculous.

[A]

RuPaul would imagine all the X Men together. And then Storm's like. Everyone's like, storm, Storm, Storm.

[B]

No, you're right, honey.

[A]

I came. I came to blow the competition away. Actually, RuPaul might make a good professor,

[B]

but I say RuPaul did a great. That's right. Dragon has never done a superhero parody with RuPaul in that fucking chair. His bald ass head and the glasses.

[A]

You think RuPaul. Okay, visually, RuPaul might get Storm.

[B]

No, he's too old.

[A]

Storm is not.

[B]

I know, but Storm doesn't look that Storm looks like she is 20.

[A]

Do you think RuPaul?

[B]

What do you think an all black X Men will be? Who will be. Okay, so RuPaul is a professor's X. Who's the black Jean Grey?

[A]

No, I wouldn't make RuPaul Professor X. Okay, let's keep going around. Let's just do a full circle moment. Name? Colossus.

[B]

Colossus would have to be Shaq. Shaq would be a good colossus.

[A]

But he's such a badass.

[B]

And he's so old.

[A]

I mean, he's.

[B]

I am Kazam.

[A]

Yeah. No, Shaq is a big muscly. Oh, not Terry Crew. He's too goofy.

[B]

No, he's too goofy to be colossal. Colossus is. I don't know.

[A]

Okay, you.

[B]

You also started on one of the most. No, he's too old. You pick the most. Let's go with the main ones. Jean Grey.

[A]

I'm like Frogman Morph.

[B]

Jean Grey.

[A]

Jean Gray.

[B]

I think that could be Regina King. She'd be a good Jean Grey.

[A]

Regina King is too old to be Jean Gray. Jean Grey is, like, in her 20s. Yeah.

[B]

I mean, Famka Jensen was in her 20s, and she played Jean Grey. That's how we all grew. She wasn't. She was. She was about Regina King's age.

[A]

Regina King is probably almost 50 now.

[B]

She looks young, though.

[A]

Hey, Google, how old is regina king? She's 50.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Yeah, that's too old to be Jean Grey. I feel like Jean Grey needs to be someone a little bit younger.

[B]

I would give Jean Megan thee stallion.

[A]

Cyclops.

[B]

Megan island will be a fairest G. Gray.

[A]

Listen, Cyclops.

[B]

She's like, ah. Every move she does.

[D]

Ah.

[A]

You know who could be a great Cyclops? Is that guy who was in. He played Dr. Manhattan in Watchmen, the HBO series.

[B]

I'm not watching Watchmen.

[A]

He's. I can't remember his.

[B]

Oh. Oh, him. Okay.

[A]

Yeah, he's good.

[B]

I can see being Cyclops. Wait, he's Morpheus in the new Matrix.

[A]

Stop everything. What? Keanu Reeves in the Matrix. Yes, But Laurence Fishburne isn't.

[B]

He probably didn't want to do it. I mean, they tried.

[A]

Is he like a new. Is Morpheus a new person?

[B]

He's like a new simulation basis. Well, not a new simulation. They put him in.

[A]

Yes, but they're not trying to just say, this is Laurence Fishburne.

[B]

No, they're not trying to say, this is Laurence Fishburne. He's like the new.

[A]

I don't like that.

[B]

Okay. Jada Pink is it. They probably try to get more. Lawrence Prism is probably like. But nah, I'm home. Chilling. He probably don't want to do it.

[A]

He still acts. He's in Blackish.

[B]

He probably don't want to do it.

[A]

I don't like this. I'm not watching this movie.

[B]

Because Lawrence Fisherman didn't want to do it. You don't want to watch it.

[A]

I don't want to see. I don't.

[B]

Mateo Jacob, don't say that, because now I'm offended.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Abdul Mateen. I guess I am upset that Lawrence Fishburne. I don't know why I feel so strongly. Is the actor that plays Trinity.

[B]

Yeah, everyone except Morpheus. Because he probably didn't want to do it. They probably didn't offer him enough money

[A]

or he has health issues or something.

[B]

Maybe, maybe.

[A]

Maybe he was tired.

[B]

Maybe he was. I was 20 years ago. He's like, I'm tired.

[A]

He is the oldest person in the cast. Yeah, I mean, hey, Google, how old is Laurence Fishburne?

[B]

65. I overshot, right?

[A]

He looks great.

[B]

Let me see. I mean, he would have been great, but, girl, he said no.

[A]

I'm so fucking mad, you know? Honestly. And if it wasn't gonna be Lawrence Fishman, they should have bought in, like, Samuel Jackson or somebody. No, Samuel Jackson is one of my favorite act. I love.

[B]

Samuel Jackson is from. No, he'd be Magneto.

[A]

Yes, he'll be Magneto. Yes. Yes. That's. That's. That's our official definite casting. Samuel Jackson has. He has never. Every movie he's been in has been better because he was in it. Every movie Samuel Jackson has ever been. Even the movies that are, like, bad, the only reason they were good was because, like, like Snakes on a plane, I never seen.

[B]

Did you ever see it or you just know about it?

[A]

I just know about it.

[B]

Yeah. I never seen it. It might be a bitch.

[A]

It might be a horrible movie, but Samuel Jackson will have made it better.

[B]

Hey, we don't want no motherfucking snakes

[A]

on this motherfucking plane.

[B]

No one knows that lie.

[A]

I'm tired of these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane. Did you see Black Snake, Mon. Black. That's where he's chained to that white lady.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh. Did you see Django? Oh, my God.

[B]

He was great in Django.

[A]

Django is legit Samuel Jackson's best work.

[B]

He is great in Django.

[A]

I'm a huge.

[B]

Oh, my God. You know, his daughter was a producer on Drag Race.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah, she was a producer on season 13 or season 12. His daughter, she was one of, like, the ones you interview with on one of the. Sort of.

[A]

I think Laurence Fishburne has a daughter who's a stripper work. I think she used to work in my brother's strip club.

[B]

Do you know this weird thing when you say. When you start really low and then you move your eyesight, you're like.

[C]

I think you're doing.

[B]

I don't know. Why do you do that? It's very weird. You're like one of those paintings in the wall that the eyes are like. Because you don't move your head. And you. And you. You. You look. You're sticking right to the mic. You go, yeah. When I think it's over there, you do that. It's very strange. Who's. Who's black? Wolverine? Michael. My Michael B. Jordan.

[A]

No, it's. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Who?

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

For the Michael B. Jordan, I don't think he has, like, the anger and, like, the rage. I think, and I'm not being funny, especially based on his height. It's Kevin Hart and he's muscley.

[B]

Wolverine's not. Hugh Jackman is. Kevin hart is like 5 foot 5.

[A]

How tall do you think Wolverine is?

[B]

Wolverine is not a small character.

[A]

Hey, Google, how tall is Wolverine? Wolverine's five' three.

[B]

Kevin Hart would not be a good Wolverine.

[A]

He got applause.

[B]

Yeah. No, Bob. No.

[A]

A man got applause. I'm thinking of shit,

[B]

but yeah. Okay.

[A]

You know, I gotta say, honestly, casting sounds really tough, and I don't think I would want to work in that film because when you get it wrong, it's a rap. You get it right when. And I think what would probably make it really good is when. When it's something that no one's thinking of. Like, everyone thought that Philip Seymour Hoffman was gonna play the penguin.

[B]

Did they?

[A]

Yes, it was like a thing. There was like a.

[B]

Which penguin? Like, the original. Like the Danny.

[A]

There was a. A rumor that after Bane, the next one was going to be Penguin. But then when he died, they abandoned it. That could all be hearsay. I always thought that back when they were doing the really campy ones, Jack Black would have been a perfect penguin. I think Jack Black has a really serious role in him that hasn't been.

[B]

Has he done one?

[A]

Not to my knowledge. No.

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

But I. I think Jack Black has a really serious role in him that people are gonna, like, gag when he. Jack Black is one of my favorite actors.

[B]

I know you love School of Rock.

[A]

It's one of my favorite movies. It's so good.

[B]

Are you. Are we over the super, like, superhero plot lines? I mean, they're all pretty much the same. A bad thing happens. The superhero is. Gets there. Especially the origin ones. They're all pretty much the same.

[A]

Yeah. So when I watched Black Panther, I was watching. I was like, I know everything's going to happen. I know that he's going to. His relationship with his father is going to become tainted. At some point, he's gonna have to come to grips with it. He's gonna find that his daddy wasn't perfect. But I didn't mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Yeah. Well, you said something earlier that bothered me. You were like, marvel heroes are just for the spectacle. I'm like, that's what I go to see, a superhero. That's what I go to see a superhero movie for. I want to see bangs and lights and fight scenes. Like, I'm not going to a superhero movie to get into. To learn a life lesson. I'm not going for, like a sob. It's not about life lesson.

[A]

I just. I really like the, like. For example, when I think about Dark Knight Rises, which was the one with Heath Ledger.

[B]

No, just the Dark Knight Rises. Bane.

[A]

Yeah. Which one was the one with the scarecrow?

[B]

Then Batman Begins. Batman Begins.

[A]

Okay. When I think about the one with Heath Ledger, there was. There was spectacle, but it's just not like Avengers, where you can tell they're literally just 90. They're all just walking on a huge blue screen, which I can't even imagine acting on. That. That probably feels so stupid. It probably feels so dumb to be, like, running and, like, fighting air. I would be like, I can't take this seriously. But, like, when I think about, like, the shots, like, the Joker, like, with his head out the window and the, like, wind going through his hair, that's

[B]

probably on the screen too.

[A]

No, no, because they. I know it wasn't.

[B]

I just thought.

[A]

I know it was on screen because I've seen.

[B]

I've seen many things like that where you're on a blue screen, but, yes, you're in the car and it's speeding the thing, but you're on a. You're in a blue screen.

[A]

I've seen clips and stuff of it with. With the Joker. And when I think about, like, how the Batman often, like, fights, like, in the dark. Something about the Batman fighting in the dark instead of, like, everything's well lit and you see every angle. He seems so mysterious and really terrifying. I love the tropes they have with Batman that we come to expect. Like where Batman is talking to Professor Gordon. I mean, Commissioner Gordon, and then all of a sudden he just leaves. But he never says goodbye. That's been a trope with Batman movies forever. And they keep it up from the comics. Yeah. And it's just like, really. It's just. It's just so well done. The acting, to me, is so superb in this.

[B]

So you think the acting in Marvel is not good?

[A]

I said the acting in DC is superb.

[B]

Is there any Marvel acting that you think is superb?

[A]

I thought that. I remember thinking that Toby Maguire's.

[B]

That was Sony. It wasn't Marvel. Necessary Spiderman is a Marvel movie. It was Sony.

[A]

We talk about Marvel.

[B]

Yeah, it wasn't. It was a Sony movie. It's a.

[A]

It's a Marvel comic.

[B]

Yeah, but Sony owned it. Sony made it, not Marvel. Marvel is now producing these.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

With Disney.

[A]

Okay. Well, I'm just talking about. I'm talking about Marvel movies.

[B]

Like Marvel characters.

[A]

Marvel characters, yeah. And that was also.

[B]

Sorry, everything. The reason why those Sony ones, because Sony had a. They wanted it to not be as cartoony as what Disney's doing now. So that's why the Spider Man, Marvel, the Spider Man, Sony ones, and Tobey Maguire feel a little different. They feel like in the middle of Marvel, what Disney's doing now and what Batman is. They kind of feel like in the middle.

[A]

Also, Tobey Maguire waking up in the morning and then realizing that he had, like, muscles was a sexual assault.

[B]

That was so hot.

[A]

I was like, oh, my God.

[B]

That was really hot. That was really hot. And, you know, he's the only Spider man that. His powers, like, he was the only one that got bit by the spider. The other two had to have, like, cartridges. Well, I guess the other two did too, but they still had to have, like, web cartridges. He's the only one. Like, the webs come from his body.

[A]

The two hottest moments in superhero, like, history for me are when Killmonger takes off his shirt. And when Spider man realizes that when Spider man wakes up and he has his powers, when Maguire, when Michael B. Jordan takes off his shirt and shows all the scars, that is one of the hottest moments.

[B]

He's so hot.

[A]

And same with Tobey Maguire waking up and being like, he, like, grabs his. His. His pecs and then he looks down at his pants and goes, big chain.

[B]

Did you say that?

[A]

Something like that. There was some insinuation that his dick got bigger.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

And I was like, that was a great line.

[B]

Did you like any of the Fantastic Four movies? I like the newest one. No.

[A]

Did you just.

[B]

Did you see the newest one?

[A]

I remember seeing one and being like, I'm out.

[B]

The ones with Jessica Alba?

[A]

Yeah. I was like, it's a rap.

[B]

Yeah. Those weren't great, but with, like, the Silver Surfer. But they just put out. It did not. Just like, maybe like, four years ago, you know, talking about the Fantastic Four movie when they were, like, younger. I like that one.

[A]

What was the X Men movie in Time? Time Ender, Future, Past. It was so complicated.

[B]

Oh, it was too much.

[A]

But it was. I really enjoyed it.

[B]

I did, too. I always enjoyed it. Even the one that people pretend that they hate, not pretend that they hate, you know? Which one? Which one? X Men 3. The one when. When, Gene. When Phoenix Horizon, she's like, she kills professor.

[A]

I like that one.

[B]

You didn't or you don't mind?

[A]

Yeah, but.

[B]

Oh, people. People hate it. Like, they just thought it was. It just wasn't good. They didn't like it. I love that movie.

[A]

There's something about Jennifer Lawrence as. As Mystique. Jennifer Lawrence, Right?

[B]

Yeah. Where you're going.

[A]

It just. It. Something about the way she looks. Looks goofy. Like, I'm like, this bitch look goofy as fuck. Like, when she's Mystique, I'm like, you look dumb. Like when Rebecca Ramon Stamos was Mystique.

[B]

Oh, so good.

[A]

That was scary. Yeah, but like, something about Jennifer Lawrence, the mystique. She looks like someone who is, like, in a mystique costume.

[B]

I weirdly agree.

[A]

She likes someone who's like, someone who's like, in a mystique costume, but like, at a party. But it's like, just like walking around and, like, being themselves. And she's like, anyway, like.

[B]

Like with a drink.

[A]

But she's. It's like, like, oh, my God. You're in the costume, but you're not. You're not mystiquing it.

[B]

And something about the way that Rebecca Ramone Stamos was. Oh, she's not Stamos anymore. Rebecca Ramon. When she. The way that she. She moved, it was just so sexual, the way that mystique is. Yeah. And it just made it feel. It was. It was. She was a great mystique.

[A]

I mean, her mystique was also very animalistic. It did very little to note. She did very little to. No talking.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she was really. I mean, like, those feet moves, the kicks.

[B]

Yeah. The one when she.

[A]

In.

[B]

In number two, when she slides through the door and she gives him the finger.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That is so good.

[A]

I remember, like, was it when she was Wolverine and she's like morphing back into mystique and hits.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

As she goes to kiss him and.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

She's.

[A]

She's like turning. She's like. I think he's fighting. Wolverine's fighting himself. And then Mystique's like, flying through the air. And then she's turning from Wolverine back to mystique. And she hits the spider man pose. You know, when you hit the ground, the leg was all the way out. She looks up, and I was like, oh, so then to go.

[B]

That's sexual.

[A]

Go from that to like, Jennifer Lawrence being like. Yeah. I was like, this is the best. Like, and I don't think it's her fault. It's like, it just. Just. It just looks silly.

[B]

Yeah. But also, Rebecca Ramon is like.

[A]

She was.

[B]

She was a model. Like, she just. She just. She just innately sexual. And she's just very. She's good at that, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Mystique was, like, one of the best parts of. But I also feel like. Okay, can someone explain to me this?

[B]

They noob the Storm in those Exit movies. Storm was like some wreck. I'm like, storm is a Class 5 mutant. She's one of those powerful.

[A]

They were.

[B]

Remember Number Two? They're literally in the middle of the. They're in the middle of a dam exploding. And Storm was like.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I'm like, bitch, you can control water, air. You can stop all of this. I was like, this is crazy.

[A]

One of my favorite moments was when Professor X. They were. It was this big standoff. I can't remember which movie I think was the first one. There was this big standoff with the. With the cops. And then it's like, Sabretooth, Magneto, and all these people. But Professor X gets in everybody's brains. Like, he controls all of their brains. They turn their guns on themselves.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then.

[B]

No, Magneto did that. Magneto made them alternatives.

[A]

But then, like, was it. Didn't Professor X like, make the cop talk? No, one of the cops started talking to Magneto and he was like, Charles. That's what it was. Sabertube starts talking to. To Magneto, and he's like, charles.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And.

[A]

And I was like, but Eric. Eric. No. But then Magneto was like, Charles.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Like, Charles. Get out of whatever.

[A]

Yeah. Who was. Who was Sabretooth again? Who was that?

[B]

I don't know his name, but I can see his face in my head. I know his name.

[A]

Explain this to me. Why did Hugh Jackman. Why was he the only one who made the crossover to. When they changed the entire cast? Everyone changed except Hugh Jackman.

[B]

Because they explained that because.

[A]

Because he's aging.

[B]

Yeah, because his age was a thing. And it. Also. Because in X Men First Class, they went back in time, or it started out in the 70s, but he wasn't really. He was. He wasn't a part of X Men First Class, really. Only in that one scene. And then they incorporated him again in Days of Future Past because he's.

[A]

Ian McKellen was so good as Magneto.

[B]

He's good. Yeah.

[A]

And I just love that he's gay.

[B]

Is he Even. Kello's not gay.

[A]

Yeah, he's very. He's openly gay. Really? Yes.

[B]

Oh, shit. I didn't know that.

[A]

Magneto's like, girl. But also part of me is like, I think Magneto. What makes him so Powerful isn't actually his power, because his power is magnificent.

[B]

He's not even evil. He just wants equality. Magneto just wants equality. Everyone trying to victimize him.

[A]

I think what makes him so powerful that he's just so smart? It's like he's just. He. You remember when he pulled the blood, the metal out of the.

[B]

Out of the guy? Yeah. Number two, he was like, oh, yeah. He could smell the iron in him. He was like. He said something like, it seems like you've had your iron pills today. Or maybe I just made that up. I think that's what I thought when I saw this scene.

[A]

And he pulled the iron through his blood, but also, like. And then he, like, turned it into a. And just destroyed the entire place. And I was like. I mean, controlling metal is. But also, I feel like it could be relatively easy. It would be relatively easy to just put him in a place where there's no metal.

[B]

That's pretty hard metal, bitch. Metal is all through the walls in here. What do you fight in the middle of the woods? I was like, no, Bob, that's impossible.

[A]

Whatever. He's in the ocean. You have to lure him to the ocean. He probably makes. But also, he's wearing metal.

[B]

Yeah. And on his way. On his way to the ocean, he's pulling metal. That's actually a really great power to control metal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. That's a pretty good one. Well, is there a power? I mean, I'm sure there's some X Men that has it. Is there some power? Like, what if you had the ability to control plastic? But plastic is in the ocean. Plastic's everywhere. Plastic. And you can.

[A]

You can make. You find somebody with a BBL

[B]

that's not fat.

[A]

That's not fat plastic. Who got their lips done.

[B]

Be like,

[A]

Rip out somebody's titty implants.

[B]

Dude.

[A]

Do you remember.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Did you remember that butt implants are actually safer than bbls?

[B]

Are they?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, BBL is apparently the most dangerous surgery to have.

[A]

Butt implants are actually safer, but they

[B]

don't look as good and they feel crazy. But you.

[A]

I mean, I've never. I've actually never felt breast implants before.

[B]

I never have either.

[A]

Yeah, you've never felt breast. But from what I hear, I mean, they probably feel a lot different over time. I don't know how firm they are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I mean, also butts can be really firm and really soft. I felt some butts that were really, really firm and big and some butts that are really, really soft and big.

[B]

I Think people who want butt implants, they want, like, the jiggle, and they want it to look. Can feel like. Like a muscle butt can jiggle, but not with implants. They don't jiggle. That's the problem.

[A]

Oh, but boobs jiggle. Boob implants jiggle.

[B]

Not really. I see this. Have you seen that girl on Tick Tock? She was like, do not ever get breast. I went to Miami. And she was like, she knocks.

[A]

And then if you watch the stitch video, she goes, guys, I was just kidding. She goes, I've never even had a boob job before.

[B]

Wait, really?

[A]

Yeah. She was like, I was just joking.

[B]

That was literally just.

[A]

I added the sound impulse. I've never had a boob job.

[B]

My lying. She had a blue job that she was.

[A]

No, she goes, like. She goes, look, guys, she's like. She's like. She's like, these are my. They were. They were, like, saggy. She's like, I've never done anything to

[B]

my boobs or What a lying bitch.

[A]

I love you very much.

[B]

I love you.

[A]

That's our unofficial tagline.

[B]

No, that's you. I'm not saying that. You just said it, but I said, I love you.

[A]

No, our tagline is I love you very much. And you go, I love you, too, Roberta. Yeah, you. You give me superhero versus villain tease.

[B]

Oh, you are absolutely a villain.

[A]

I gotta get. I gotta be a villain in one of these movies.

[B]

There it is again. One of these movies. All right.

[A]

Thank you, Sam.