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Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Teamwork" (October 20, 2021)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change—two of RuPaul’s Drag Race’s most beloved queens—share a hilariously candid, unfiltered conversation about teamwork. They dive deep into their own behind-the-scenes dynamic, spill industry tea, recount school projects gone awry, and reflect on what it really means to be a "team player" (especially in the world of drag, group challenges, and live performance). As always, their chemistry is infectious, filled with shady banter, warmth, and raucous laughter.

Key Discussion Points

Sibling Chemistry and Memory Lane (01:30–05:50)

Forgotten Employees & Old Friends: Monét jokes about forgetting her “number one employee” Rozay, leading to playful teasing about forgetting people who’ve helped in the past. This smoothly transitions into a discussion of how difficult it is to maintain every friendship and working relationship in drag, especially with busy touring schedules.
Phone Naming Conventions: Bob and Monét banter about their quirks in saving friends’ names on their phones, revealing both practical and cultural anxieties about using "government names."
- “Why do people care how their phone is in my phone? It's literally just my phone.” – Monét (04:10)

Queens and Sensitivity to Critique (07:35–09:55)

Sensitive Stars: The duo reflects on how some drag queens react to reviews and critiques, especially from fellow Drag Race alumni.
Direct Communication: Monét shares an honest interaction with River Medway from UK Drag Race, underlining the importance of context and not taking every critique to heart.
- “Take anything I say …with a grain of salt and a shot of penicillin.” – Monét (08:39)

Representation & Photoshoots – Inclusive but Complicated (18:30–24:40)

EW Photo Shoot Recap: Discussion about a recent Entertainment Weekly shoot highlighting Black Drag Race winners.
Behind the Scenes: Shea Couleé’s absence due to wardrobe issues sparks commentary on how productions sometimes miss the mark on inclusivity (23:25).
Legacy & Problematic Faves: They highlight the importance of acknowledging all winners, even those whose reputations have become controversial.

"Stealing Focus" in Drag and Group Work (24:42–29:04)

Spotlight vs. Teamwork: Monét and Bob debate whether to seize focus or blend in as part of a team in group projects—both in drag and in life.
Kim Chi’s Classic Focus-Stealing Bit: Recounts of Season 8 tour antics, where Kim Chi would position herself for maximum camera attention – always as a “bit,” but still effective (25:29).
- “Stealing focus is like, her fucking pussy gets so wet. Kimchi...” – Monét (25:29)

Navigating Ego, Hierarchy, and Friendships in Gig Culture (26:44–31:19)

Happy Hour Ego: Monét recounts accepting a gig billed as “Trixie & Friends,” wrestling with feeling like a sidekick but ultimately embracing teamwork—and recognizing everyone “has their chance to dance in the sun.”
- “My ego was like…I can’t be the and friends. I am the main character!” – Monét (28:20)
Boundaries in Collaboration: They discuss what it means to say yes or no to gigs, and for whom they’d happily play a supporting role.

Teamwork in Practice: The Podcast Saga (33:33–39:49)

Podcast as a Teamwork Test: Monét and Bob recount the early days of Sibling Rivalry, where one often pulled extra weight, and neither made any money for years.
- “The first time we made a dollar was on the Patreon… and it was not a lot of money!” – Monét (37:37)
Ambition for More: Bob pitches ambitious ideas for the podcast's future, including a “five days a week” format and “On Fridays We Do Drag” (39:01).

Behind the Scenes: Drag as Collaborative Art (41:09–46:11)

Building a Personal Team: Monét outlines how her “teamwork” operates creatively when designing looks—delegation, brainstorming, and trusting teammates’ talents.
- “I really believe in letting people on your team shine. I really believe in letting people do what they do best.” – Monét (42:51)
Sharing (and Shaping) Outfits: A comical segment about borrowing each other’s drag—benefiting from their similar sizes.

School Projects Gone Wrong – The Cat Boiling Story (47:10–54:42)

Dissection Trauma: Monét recounts the shocking story of dissecting a pregnant cat in high school, including taking the remains home and boiling them for anatomy class—Bob is scandalized and skeptical.
- “So your school wants you to take this dead, pregnant cat into your kitchen where your family cooks dinner and boil it.” – Bob (52:07)
Teamwork Fails: Group dynamics break down after one member's mom throws out the project cat, causing grade disaster—and leading to a broader reflection on how group projects work (or don’t).

Teamwork in Drag Race Challenges (55:08–56:46)

Fear of Leadership: The perils of being made group leader in Drag Race challenges—since leaders often get the blame if things go badly.
Remembering Group Dynamics: Discussing who really led in challenges, the roles played, and the sometimes-chaotic energy when queens collaborate.

Teamwork in Sex, Gigs, and Life (61:02–67:20)

Sex as Teamwork: Playfully, the duo explores the idea that good sex is all about communication, making it another form of teamwork.
Changing Collaborations: Reflections on touring with queens you’ve clashed with before, how people change, and why outside perceptions (“the fandom”) don’t always match reality.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“Take anything I say with a grain of salt and a shot of penicillin.”
– Monét (08:39)
“Stealing focus is like, her fucking pussy gets so wet. Kimchi...”
– Monét (25:29)
On gigs as “& Friends”:
“My ego was like…I can’t be the and friends. I am the main character!”
– Monét (28:20)
On collaboration:
“I really believe in letting people on your team shine. I really believe in letting people do what they do best.”
– Monét (42:51)
On high school dissection:
“So your school wants you to take this dead, pregnant cat into your kitchen where your family cooks dinner and boil it.”
– Bob (52:07)
On teamwork in sex:
“Sex is a dance… You kind of have to go with your partner, but also know when to pull back, make it sexy… I think sex is definitely teamwork, for sure.”
– Bob (61:02)

Timestamps for Highlights

Sibling Rivalry, Forgotten Friends/Staff: 01:30–06:43
Drag Race Critique Discourse: 07:35–10:02
EW Black Drag Excellence Shoot & Inclusions: 18:30–24:40
Stealing the Show & Kimchi’s Photo Game: 24:42–26:13
Ego & “& Friends” Gigs: 26:44–31:19
Behind the Podcast: Early Days & Future Dreams: 33:33–39:49
Teamwork in Drag Creation: 41:09–46:11
Cat Boiling High School Dissection: 47:10–54:42
Teamwork in Drag Race & Sex: 55:08–61:02
Teamwork in Touring & Changing Relationships: 62:07–67:20
Fandom, Fame, Privacy: 68:07–69:49

Tone & Takeaways

This episode is a masterclass in the Bob and Monét dynamic: irreverent, affectionate, self-aware, and hilariously shady. Their discussion of teamwork moves seamlessly from the deeply personal (podcast beginnings, friendships with queens, drag design) to the absurd (boiling cats, sharing butt-padded outfits). Throughout, the message is clear: teamwork, in drag and life, is messy, essential, and always a little bit chaotic—but it’s sweeter with a true partner in crime.

Final quote:
“We did some great teamwork today, by the way… This is the ebb and flow of our relationship. It is quite natural. I’m gonna hate this bitch in a minute.” – Monét (67:17)

Useful for: Anyone wanting insider perspective on queer creative collaboration, Drag Race tea, or just a gorgeously messy, honest meditation on working with (and loving) your chosen family.

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[00:00]
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[00:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
Close your eyes. Exhale.
[00:34]
Monet X Change
Feel your body relax. And let go of whatever you're carrying today.
[00:39]
Shannon Maldonado
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[00:47]
Monet X Change
And breathe.
[00:48]
Shannon Maldonado
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[00:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
1-800-contact contacts.
[01:30]
Monet X Change
On this week's episode, Monat forgets her. Her number one employee, Rozay.
[01:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
We talk all about teamwork.
[01:37]
Monet X Change
And we find out what made Monet say this.
[01:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
So your school wants you to take this dead, pregnant cat into your kitchen where your family cooks dinner and boil it. And we find out what made Bob say this.
[01:49]
Monet X Change
There was just so much butt space, like 2 inches off my ass. You are about to lose your job. Get this dance. You are about to lose your job. Cause you are detaining me for nothing.
[02:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
You're back to your old overall days. When I personally evolved. You used to stay wearing your jeans overalls.
[02:19]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[02:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you know they are.
[02:21]
Monet X Change
Girl, they're gone. I don't have them anymore.
[02:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
Your little denim overalls. It's a picture of my phone of you. Can you call. Can you call me real quick? Let me show everyone.
[02:28]
Monet X Change
Can I show them a picture that's
[02:29]
Shannon Maldonado
on my phone of you?
[02:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, fine, you want to say
[02:32]
Monet X Change
you don't want me show nobody that picture.
[02:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, why do you have to get equal? I just want to show them it's a cute picture of you. You want to show them?
[02:38]
Monet X Change
I think. I think it's a cute. I genuinely love this picture of you. Let me just call Monet, exchange it.
[02:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God. Why would you do that? Look at this cute picture of Bob. Zoom into that editor. Look at this cute. You look so cute.
[02:54]
Monet X Change
I can't. You have one of those little protective.
[02:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, absolutely. Because When I'm looking at my dick pics, I don't need people to see my business.
[02:59]
Monet X Change
I need one of these because I'd
[03:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
be up in the.
[03:00]
Monet X Change
On the plane looking at pornography.
[03:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you ever been looking at a picture on. Like, a nasty picture on the. On. On the plane, and you know the person is looking at it?
[03:09]
Monet X Change
And honestly, I'm like, get off my phone. Can I show them mine?
[03:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Sure.
[03:13]
Monet X Change
Bob, we were at. Am I calling you? This was my night. In my apartment. No, I have it pulled up. We were at my apartment and.
[03:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, coming from a gig.
[03:22]
Monet X Change
This is my apartment.
[03:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, where is your apartment?
[03:26]
Monet X Change
And Monet had.
[03:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
It was cold.
[03:28]
Monet X Change
When it's cold in your city, everyone knows Roz. And Monet didn't want her makeup to get messed up, so she just had it.
[03:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you set the rule? Bobby said a rule, a very strict rule of. However he entered your name in his phone, it never changes.
[03:42]
Monet X Change
Well, it's not about it being a strict rule. It's just because that's usually how I've trained my finger to searching for you.
[03:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
Am I still exchange.
[03:51]
Monet X Change
Let's see.
[03:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you still happy as E X Change? Bob, did I. See, that's not how your brain has been wired to remember. You know exactly what my fucking name is.
[03:59]
Monet X Change
Well, I know your name, but when I Google you or when I search you, this is how I find you
[04:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
on everything else you do. The letter X, the word change on your phone.
[04:07]
Monet X Change
I changed one person's name.
[04:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
Who?
[04:10]
Monet X Change
This guy who became a really good friend of mine. And his name was his name Grindr. And I changed it to his last name. But it's also because I used to search by his first name and. But also, why do people care how their phone is in my phone? Like, I'm not putting it that way on the Internet. I'm not putting. This is just my phone. It's literally just my phone.
[04:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I just. I just want to say that your reasoning is flawed because you're saying, this is how I search your name. Like, that's not you searching.
[04:32]
Monet X Change
No, on my phone.
[04:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
But everything else, you search it a regular way.
[04:35]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Like, for example, I was. No, I also changed Luis's name, too, because Louise's name used to be Luis Drag.
[04:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
Lola Saint Lourdes.
[04:44]
Monet X Change
No, it was. It was Luis Lola Drag. And then I would send people my assistant's number, maybe, like, Louise Lola Drag. So I changed it to his actual name, Black. But Kennedy's name is still Kennedy Berkeley.
[04:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know black folk are worried about that. Like Kameka she hates that I have her full name in my phone. She's like, kevin, why do you have my full government in your phone?
[05:03]
Monet X Change
But it's also not hard to find someone's government name. Like, it's. It's really easy.
[05:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
Kamika is just weird. She's weird.
[05:09]
Monet X Change
It's a black girl thing.
[05:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's a black girl.
[05:10]
Monet X Change
Maybe a black person thing. I. I don't know. A lot of guys are like that. But, yeah, people really do not want you to know they're legal. And it's kind of strange. I mean, I don't want to say who's like that, because then the fans will go find her name. But there's a drag race girl that we're really close to who just does not want people to know her real name.
[05:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you say, yeah? Oh, yeah.
[05:31]
Monet X Change
Like, she is, like, weird about people knowing.
[05:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And I'm like, one time I said it, child. She almost burned the retinas off my eyes.
[05:40]
Monet X Change
Well, if you really want to get wild, don't ever say her mom's name. But she will burn it down, really. She also doesn't want people to see pictures of her mom. I'm like, bitch, are you the witness protection?
[05:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe she is in the witness protection program.
[05:53]
Monet X Change
Well, I mean, this would be. I would say, if you're in the witness protection program and you are out here in this world trying to become be on Broadway and TV shows and movies, I would say you are failed at the witness protecting.
[06:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
You're right. We're talking about Rose.
[06:07]
Monet X Change
Guys, are you still friends? Rose? Rose is one of the queens who was like, rose used to do your show. Don't act like Rose did not used to do your show.
[06:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
What show, bitch?
[06:16]
Monet X Change
The exchange rate.
[06:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
Rose used to do exchange rate. What do you mean? What do you mean? She did exchange rate?
[06:20]
Monet X Change
No, she did, like, a bit on your show. Didn't Rose have, like, a drink?
[06:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, that was in quarantine.
[06:24]
Monet X Change
The erasure. Well, the fact that you fully forgot, you just acted like this bitch wasn't even ever a part of the exchange rate.
[06:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
Cause when I think of exchange rate, I think of back in the studio, so I have a hard time separating.
[06:38]
Monet X Change
Yike. So all that hard work you did, Rose literally meant nothing. Monet doesn't even remember you. You're literally nobody to her.
[06:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
She was very funny. Yeah. But, yes, Rose and I are still friends, but you know how it is. Like, when you're traveling and touring, girl, I see you when I see you are you and who Derrick Berry still
[06:55]
Monet X Change
Friends, I've probably seen Derrick Berry and talked to her more recently than you talked to Rose.
[07:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's only cause you just went to the Vegas show. Please stop acting like before that. When's the last time you spoke to Derrick Berry?
[07:04]
Monet X Change
None of your business. This is our private friendship, and that is quite frank. I'm offended you would even ask that. That is none of it. Also, Derrick Berry never did a segment on my show.
[07:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
So you're saying Rose, does Derrick Berry give you a career ratchet drive?
[07:18]
Monet X Change
You're saying Rose was literally just an employee to you and you don't remember? You don't keep up with your employees. Was she an employee?
[07:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
She was an employee of mine.
[07:27]
Monet X Change
Wow.
[07:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
Ow. My God.
[07:30]
Monet X Change
I thought we were done dragging Rose back on. I'm so sorry, Rose. I did not mean for it to go down like this.
[07:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know we have one topic, but I think we should talk about this a little bit. I'm very intrigued by this, how this is in relation to sibling watchery, how people get so up in their feeling. In their feelings about review. Cause here's the thing, all right, I get it. We were both sensitive when we were on the show. And you see something definitely throwing us up.
[07:54]
Monet X Change
And don't be hoo hoo ha and hustling. Speak for yourself, Ms. Thing.
[07:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
But in with the Tamisha Iman shit last year and now this season, one of the current girls got a little butthurt about some things we were saying. And I'm like, mary, it's just a rev. Like, you're on. Like, it's a review. I don't understand.
[08:13]
Monet X Change
Well, I feel like, okay, I talked to River Medway.
[08:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
How was it?
[08:17]
Monet X Change
So River Medway was like, hey, girl, that really wasn't about you. I'm not backpedaling your honor is what I like to say. And it wasn't about you. It was just something I've noticed that people are saying. And she goes, and you're right, there is. And I was like, you know, it's one of those things where take anything I say. I really enjoy you on the show.
[08:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
Cut to this episode. We were praising her, how much we loved her.
[08:40]
Monet X Change
I also said, but also take that with a grain of salt too. Like, don't take anything I say with, like, take it all with a grain of salt. With a grain of salt and a shot of penicillin. Because, like, my opinion doesn't really matter that much. It's just how I feel your outfit looks. Yeah, I do think that you and I get significantly harsher Critiques for being critical than pretty much any other review show.
[09:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
This is true. I agree with that.
[09:06]
Monet X Change
Because, I mean, I love Violet. Violet is mean, mean, mean, mean. Trixie has had some harsh opinions. All of them.
[09:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[09:16]
Monet X Change
And I will say the.
[09:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
When Violet did, everyone was like,
[09:23]
Monet X Change
well, there's also a thing, too. I got less critiques when I was doing the Pit Stop, really, than I did on my own show. And I. I will say the Pit Stop really filtered out a lot of the things I was saying that. I mean, you've done the piss off.
[09:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah.
[09:38]
Monet X Change
If you go too hard, they're like, yeah. They'll come in and be like, can you say something nice? And I'll be like, I like her shoe. And then pop. On the screen, it'll be like, me going, I like her shoe. And then it'll cut to, like, the next. Who did I just say? Who did I just say?
[09:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
Someone's name.
[09:56]
Monet X Change
Who did I say? I don't remember. It just came out.
[10:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I just say, I love that you are wearing your glasses all the time now.
[10:06]
Monet X Change
Well, I didn't have them before.
[10:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you had access to it. You had. Just did.
[10:10]
Monet X Change
No, I didn't start wearing glasses until. Until I got here.
[10:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
But you used to wear glasses as a kid, and you just stopped and you're.
[10:16]
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah, Yeah. I lost my glasses when I was, like, 20. The glass I bought myself, and then I just never went and got the meetings. I'm. I'm not blind.
[10:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Right.
[10:27]
Monet X Change
But it does help me a lot. I just. I don't have to do like this so often. So I just feel, you know, my life's a little bit easier when I. When I wear my glasses. But I wouldn't. I don't need to wear contacts. Like, something. Some of us are like, really can't see without glasses.
[10:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob, he just eyeballed at you.
[10:44]
Monet X Change
But there are folks in this room who really. I'll hand Jacob. Like, Jacob would be in the bed at night.
[10:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
He goes like, set his alarm and be like, oh, my God, you're being.
[11:02]
Monet X Change
You're being Jacob. Am I exaggerating? Without my glasses, I hold my phone.
[11:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, here. Okay. Okay, y', all, Jacob is doing this.
[11:10]
Monet X Change
No, Jacob has. Jacob has done this before. There have been times where Jacob was like. I'd be like, damn, bitch. That shit is super.
[11:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone in my family has. Actually, that's not true.
[11:22]
Monet X Change
Did you see Demi Lovato's trailer for their new show?
[11:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
[11:29]
Monet X Change
Okay. Demi Lovato has a show on Peacock called Unidentified.
[11:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you Think it's about Unidentified.
[11:33]
Monet X Change
It's called Unidentified. What do you think it's about? Remember they. I was gonna. I mean, I don't want to cloud your judgment, but it's called Demi Lovato. With all they've been going through in the, in the media. It's called Unidentified. What would you think this, this show would be about? We're about to watch this trailer and then we're gonna cut to your reaction.
[11:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe it's about her. Her hair. Sorry. Maybe it's about their gender being like. It's like it's, it's unidentifiable. She. They're moving through it.
[12:04]
Monet X Change
That's what I was thinking. I was like, it's about their, their journey through gender and being non binary. All right, JR's gonna cut to her reaction to this.
[12:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God, is that a joke?
[12:18]
Monet X Change
Now listen, everyone. I have. I don't have any screeners for this show and I don't want to give you spoilers, but I can guarantee you in this four part series they will not find any UFOs. This I can promise you. If one person was to crack the case on UFOs, I don't think Demi Lovato.
[12:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
That is insane.
[12:37]
Monet X Change
Is the one out here. Breaking news about.
[12:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
Imagine how much they paid her to do this show.
[12:42]
Monet X Change
They paid them a lot of money.
[12:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
For them. Imagine how much this production costs.
[12:47]
Monet X Change
A lot of money.
[12:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
This is insane.
[12:49]
Monet X Change
And it. This is wild. There is no way they're finding UFOs. There is no way. Also now Demi Lovato is like a ufologist and like what is happening?
[13:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
That is insane.
[13:09]
Monet X Change
Is it? And I was like, oh, it's gonna be about gender identity.
[13:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[13:14]
Monet X Change
I'm excited to watch this. Hi, I'm Demi Lovato, singer, actor, and UFO experiencer. I was like, it. I feel like this has to be high camp.
[13:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, it's not, Bob. This is real.
[13:27]
Monet X Change
And also their friend being like, oh, this is. Can we do this? Do what? Sleep in Joshua Tree on Ayahuasca. Yeah, you probably can, right?
[13:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's what I'm saying. Like, I know and I don't know what. They're obviously they're sober and stuff now, but are they okay?
[13:44]
Monet X Change
I'm sorry, I don't. That's not. That's inappropriate. That is inappropriate.
[13:49]
Bob the Drag Queen
But people. But people go to Josh's train. You see things in the sky after you have.
[13:55]
Monet X Change
There is a scene where.
[13:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
Done some things.
[13:57]
Monet X Change
There's a scene where it looks like they're doing. It has that.
[14:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. Exactly what you're talking about.
[14:04]
Monet X Change
It looks like they're doing ayahuasca. Oh, yeah. It has that, like, the vibe.
[14:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, I know.
[14:09]
Monet X Change
You know the ayahuasca vibe.
[14:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, for sure.
[14:11]
Monet X Change
Would you do ayahuasca? I heard it really makes you quite sick.
[14:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
I would definitely do ayahuasca, you know. You know, it makes you, like, vomit and yourself.
[14:19]
Monet X Change
No.
[14:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[14:22]
Monet X Change
Okay, can we talk about the fact that, like, here it is.
[14:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
It is very. That is very. I.
[14:27]
Monet X Change
These are on peyote.
[14:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
That is. I. Iasa down. This is what Chelsea Handle did when she did ayahuasca.
[14:32]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Something about. I've only seen it in tv. Something about this scene tells me you're doing hallucinogens. This scene says, I am about to do drugs.
[14:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what it is? It sounds like someone who did some acid, and they did it at nighttime. Cause, you know, acid is an hallucinogen. The skies and clouds and stuff start to move. That's what it sounds like to me.
[14:52]
Monet X Change
And I just wonder why, like, there's so many things you could do with demivato, like music and singing and recovery and, like, gender identity. When they were pitching their things, they were like, oh, my God. Singing. Yeah. Isn't Demi like, a Grammy Award winner or something?
[15:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know if she wanted any Grammys, but she has A girl has a beautiful voice. But her last documentary was the one who was the almost punch that girl in the face. The one where they almost punched that girl in the face.
[15:18]
Monet X Change
I remember thinking to myself, I'm about to punch this bitch in the face. It's one of the best.
[15:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, it's so good. Also, just hearing her singing, I remember thinking to myself, hearing them sing at a studio, I was like, oh, my God. I don't know. Demi.
[15:28]
Monet X Change
Demi has two Grammys.
[15:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
Does she really do that? Really?
[15:31]
Monet X Change
And this bitch is out here doing.
[15:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
She's a ufologist girl.
[15:37]
Monet X Change
I can't do.
[15:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
All right.
[15:38]
Monet X Change
I can't do. Anyway, Jacob told about this, and I was. I was like, this is the. This. This feels like a parody. This. This seemed like a sketch that would be on. On. On snl. Like, they'd be like, and now Mariah Carey is obsessed with ghosts. Have you guys heard that Mariah Carey is now a ghost hunter?
[15:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
I will say I've heard that there are a lot of these production companies. They're looking. They're looking for specifically, like, drag queens and, like, extraterrestrial. Not extraterrestrials.
[16:05]
Monet X Change
Paranormal.
[16:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
Paranormal stuff. Like, specifically, like, that's. That's like a well, if you all
[16:10]
Monet X Change
know Thorgy has a ghost living in her house. So if you're out there and you
[16:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
are a does she said this on First Person.
[16:16]
Monet X Change
Thorgy has told me several times about the ghost in her house. I don't believe in ghosts, but Thorgy believes there's a ghost in her house. So if you're listening to this, I'm done helping Thorgy in her career. Let's take a break.
[16:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
Ah, apparently. Maybe we'll talk about that through the break.
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[18:01]
Monet X Change
Monet and Thorgy are in full on war right now.
[18:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I just say, people were like, why is Monet being so mean? I was like, I'm clearly kidding. They're like why is Monet being so mean?
[18:13]
Monet X Change
How come after, during the we have the footage of you saying Cut. And I'm not kidding.
[18:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
You said it like, don't you like, the fans think some things. They just choose random things to think. Oh, Bob's being serious about this this time.
[18:24]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[18:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
It is very strange when I'm like, we're literally always kidding around. What about this denotes realism to you?
[18:30]
Monet X Change
I don't. Girl, these fans really be on their. I don't know. The fans are strange. Can I just quickly say that you look really beautiful in the Entertainment Weekly? You all look so great.
[18:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you.
[18:44]
Monet X Change
You know, I kind of wish.
[18:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
What? Who do you think stole? Who. Who was like. Let's say this was like a top Model group picture. Who was the one that was dead
[18:51]
Monet X Change
ass is all for sure.
[18:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's great. Okay, who's second? Who's second? It's you.
[19:07]
Monet X Change
Okay. It's you.
[19:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
Come on. The leg. You.
[19:10]
Monet X Change
Now you're okay. So I'm thinking about the photo and the video. So I like Jaida. Was it like a boot or like leggings?
[19:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
It was a boot.
[19:19]
Monet X Change
Like fully encrusted or.
[19:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, boot and gloves.
[19:23]
Monet X Change
Yeah, it was like the cardi b watch. Watch it. But hers were like jewelry or jewelry or something.
[19:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
Not stones. Like pieces of like, diamond jewelry.
[19:32]
Monet X Change
Yeah, it looks really, really good.
[19:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
It looks amazing.
[19:34]
Monet X Change
You also look absolutely stunning. I love. I mean, black people look really good in white.
[19:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
White.
[19:40]
Monet X Change
And I also, you know, I was kind of thinking about this. You're so funny. I also was thinking about how I wish it would have been this like, Barbra Streisand esque moment as. Or because your. Your dress was like this kind of like, you know, one of the little teddy dresses.
[20:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah.
[20:00]
Monet X Change
And there is this moment like this. I'm gonna show you Alexis Michelle. Yeah, Alexis Michelle has one. And I was like, if it was. Went all the way down to the ground like that, you would have. You would have. You would have gathered the children.
[20:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
But I feel like, because you looked
[20:11]
Monet X Change
really, really sad because of the shots,
[20:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't want it to be so cumbersome on me. Yeah. But I do the solo shots. Do you know who shot it? The guy who shot it. The photographer. He listened to our podcast. Beautiful man. One of the most. Bob. He.
[20:25]
Monet X Change
His name is Eric Carter.
[20:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Eric Bob. He is so sweet.
[20:29]
Monet X Change
It's hard to find photographers, pictures of them because when you Google photographers, all you see is their picture.
[20:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[20:34]
Monet X Change
Eric Carter.
[20:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Eric Carter. He's. He's this black guy. He was. He shot RuPaul for interview mag. He's a world or not photographer. He was so sweet. And so kind, and it was a pleasure working with him, but he's so beautiful.
[20:46]
Monet X Change
Well, I see his. I see his work, but I do not. I do not see.
[20:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. He probably doesn't post any pictures of himself on his page.
[20:51]
Monet X Change
Like, how old is he?
[20:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
Our age.
[20:54]
Monet X Change
I don't work. Yeah, that's. This is. This resume is popping for someone in their 30s. I mean, Regina King. I'm looking at fucking Uzo aduba.
[21:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
He's great. RuPaul. He shot RuPaul.
[21:07]
Monet X Change
RuPaul.
[21:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, is that him up there?
[21:09]
Monet X Change
I don't know. But did everyone know? I was not there because, like always, I was not in the group thread. Monet hangs out with all her friends about me. It was another one of those moments. So do you want to come clean about that?
[21:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
Bob was filming the finale episode of We're Here.
[21:23]
Monet X Change
Wow. So you. I cannot believe you gave a spoiler. There's a finale.
[21:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Shut up. I was there for a second. I was like. Anyway, Bob was filming the finale We're Here. So he could not be there.
[21:34]
Monet X Change
And then.
[21:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know.
[21:35]
Monet X Change
That's Yalls business. That is. Well, obviously James wasn't there because I don't know if James still gets offers. James, the winner of season two, formerly known as Tyra. I don't know if he still gets offers, but he's made it pretty clear that he does not want to be associated with RuPaul's Drag Race. I think it would have been fierce if he'd have been there out of drag in, like, a white suit, because he is a part of, like, for sure, the zeitgeist of drag and, like, contributing to Drag Race history and black history. Like, he really is. He's the second winner of the show.
[22:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know.
[22:05]
Monet X Change
You know what I mean?
[22:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know.
[22:07]
Monet X Change
He's a part of why the first three winners of the show are all people of color. And I think that's really amazing. I think he deserved to win. And he's very problematic. I know. And I'm also not interested in, like, canceling people because they are threatened to
[22:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
kill everyone at DragCon.
[22:23]
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. I didn't say. People have transgressions, for sure. And I've had some, too.
[22:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[22:43]
Monet X Change
And I think that people deserve some. For me, everyone has a different litmus for what they are willing to be forgiving on.
[22:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
Agreed.
[22:54]
Monet X Change
So I think it would have been cool if you'd been there out of drag and Shay wasn't there.
[22:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
Shea was not there. I mean, I don't. That's Fine.
[23:03]
Monet X Change
You got some teamwork.
[23:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, not. It's gonna make it feel like something bigger than it is. I don't think she'd be mad about saying it, but, like, one of, like, her outfit didn't arrive, so. And they tried to get her options, but they were no good options. Like, I saw the options they brought, and I think they tried their best too, but they were all like, white girl nidolusion white stuff, and it just not. I know. Oh, God. Is that problematic. Oh, God. I'm gonna get the production team.
[23:26]
Monet X Change
I mean, I'm just gagged. They would bring that. That is so. To the all black girls shoes.
[23:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think they were trying their best and maybe they thought they can, like, cut it out and, like, style it around her, but they.
[23:36]
Monet X Change
They was like, Evie, light skin.
[23:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
It was that morning, so they were trying. It literally all happened that morning. So they were trying their best to get options, you know, but. And in Shade's defense, I was like, I wouldn't want to wear any of that stuff either. I would have had to pass.
[23:48]
Monet X Change
I did not know it was in la. I saw her tweet. I have white clothes here.
[23:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you have? White.
[23:52]
Monet X Change
I have like a. I mean, I've been doing drag for 13 years. I got, like, at least three white outfits.
[23:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
She gonna put your. She gonna put you.
[23:59]
Monet X Change
My pads on.
[24:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
She gonna put your.
[24:01]
Monet X Change
They could have clipped that in the back.
[24:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Your straight jacket outfit on.
[24:04]
Monet X Change
Well, that's like a. I have. I have a white. Well, I have a white gown from We're Here that. That I would not let her wear because it hasn't aired yet. But I have to have some white stuff. I have my white cowboy look. That's what I wore for the shoot. I don't know. I released it. Cause I was there. I did. Cause I got kicked off set. I did cause a scene. Me and Monet got into one of our veganism. We talked about veganism. We got into a huge fight. And then I asked her to send me Jason Cynthia's phone number because I lost it. That's the irony. And then I got kicked off set, but I released you.
[24:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
Did. You look great.
[24:44]
Monet X Change
When I was being thrown out, I was leading. I was leading in.
[24:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, honestly, this kind of grows into our topic because in like. So anytime there's, like, a big group shot and you've done a few for Nubia. Yeah, I guess you and I would. That were those kind of.
[24:58]
Monet X Change
I did it for Stonewall.
[24:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
Stonewall.
[25:00]
Monet X Change
I've done them for. Obviously, we each did drag Race.
[25:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Do you ever try to steal focus in, like, a big shot?
[25:07]
Monet X Change
Honestly, I try not to. I don't like to still focus. I really like to be a team player when it comes to that kind of thing.
[25:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
But you still want to shine bright.
[25:15]
Monet X Change
I want to shine. Right. I want to look my best. Yes. Oh, no. Yeah. I mean, when is.
[25:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So. So season one episode. Season eight, Episode one. That was literally what your challenge to do was still focus.
[25:27]
Monet X Change
I think I won that.
[25:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
You did win that.
[25:29]
Monet X Change
Yeah. When the. When the goal is to still focus. I know how to still focus. But I'm really interested in, like, being a team player now. You know, who loves who two Steel. I mean, like, stealing focus is like, her fucking. Her fucking pussy gets so wet. Kimchi. So we do this thing where we would take photos on the Season 8 promo tour. I'd never forget this. And Kim would always, always stand, like, four feet from the. Like, we'd all be together, and then Kim would stand, like, really far from everyone. Or she'd go, like, all the way to the front and block, like, three people.
[26:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
But she's probably being silly, and she
[26:10]
Monet X Change
did it as a bit. But it's still. Still in focus.
[26:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think a good. In every shot. I accept this one.
[26:17]
Monet X Change
I just realized we did do group photos in Drag Race, but we. In my head, I don't know why Drag Race.
[26:23]
Shannon Maldonado
You did.
[26:23]
Monet X Change
Yeah, But I mean, but I realized the promo photos. I say promo, but we're not actually together. I don't know why I was like. Yeah, we were all just. We were together in the space.
[26:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. But not.
[26:33]
Monet X Change
But not on the scene at the same time.
[26:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
I always try to, like, be, like, the fiercest. Like when we did a little Trixie. Trixie and her friends pride happy hour.
[26:45]
Monet X Change
Okay. Talk about being a team player. Can we, like, talk about that? Are you comfortable talking about that?
[26:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God, sure.
[26:52]
Monet X Change
You're the one who brought it up. So, Monet, y' all go to Trixie's YouTube page and look up, like, look up her pride. Like, go to YouTube and Trixie Mattel pride. And there was this gig, and Monet is doing, like, it is basically Trixie Mattel at a bar hosting all of her friends.
[27:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[27:15]
Monet X Change
And then, like, Trixie hosts this event.
[27:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[27:18]
Monet X Change
But from what I understand, initially, it might not have been presented that way.
[27:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
Initially, it was presented as, like, a Pride happy hour. That we would all be, like, doing the show together. Yeah, yeah. And then you got the script, and I think it morphed into Trixie and friends which it was.
[27:41]
Monet X Change
Was there any ego? Were you, like, be a team player.
[27:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
Just do it?
[27:43]
Monet X Change
Or was there any moment where you were like, I'm not going to. Because I will say this. I have turned down gigs because they've been like, it'll be you and then, like, this one queen, and she'll be like, the main queen, and you'll be like some dumb bitch on the side. That's not the word of the people. But I was like, I don't want to do that. Like, it doesn't.
[28:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. I've definitely turned on some gigs like that. I think what made this one a little bit different, at first I was like, damn, not Trixie and Friends. But then I realized that the caliber of all of us, who were the friends? You know what I mean? I mean, fucking Peppermint, fucking Kimchi myself, who are. Who girls who are big in the community. So part of me, there's. There's always a part, like ego, right? Of like, how dare I be the end friends? But then part of it is. Then the other side of it is like, so what? Everyone has their chance to dance in the sun. So there was a part of it, like, my ego was like, I can't be the end friends. I'm the fucking main. I am. I am the main character. I am not fucking who? I mean, I don't know. The friends people. Okay, let me go, Ross. Chandler. No. The original Friends. Living single. I am not. I'm not a. I mean, I would
[28:43]
Monet X Change
say there's even more. I would say, well, Good Times is more of a family show.
[28:48]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I'm not the Sinclair. I'm not the regime bitch. I'm fucking Khadijah. You know what I mean? So there's ego and there's, like, practicality. I'm like, it's just one gig. It'll be fine.
[28:57]
Monet X Change
Honestly. I'm Maxine.
[28:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
You are very Maxine and living single.
[29:01]
Monet X Change
I am 100% Maxine.
[29:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I'm definitely Sinclair.
[29:05]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But I feel like. I feel like whenever I. Like, there are certain people that I would play second filler to because I really like them and I really enjoy their. Like, if there was like, if it was Monet's Pride Hour, I would be honestly happy to be like a pop in and be like, hey, girl, beepity boop boop and beat it. You know, maybe if BB Zahara, but Nate did one, if Peppermint did one, there are lots of people that I would pop in and be like, I'll just do My little bit and leave. But there are times where I'm like, I'm just not going to spend my energy, time, and resources doing a bit on certain people's shows. It's kind of like one of the reasons why I will never go back on. Watch what happens live.
[29:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
Never.
[29:50]
Monet X Change
Because I'm like, I don't feel valued here. Also, the job doesn't pay, right?
[29:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
The job does not pay. Never. When I see girls do it, I'm like, bitch, did you really say yes to this gig?
[30:02]
Monet X Change
But some people, they don't even put your.
[30:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
Your, Your handles on.
[30:06]
Monet X Change
They barely say your name, bitch.
[30:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, no, but. Yeah, but, but, but then again, I look at celebrities who do it all the time. They guess on each other's stuff.
[30:14]
Monet X Change
And it doesn't. For friends. Probably.
[30:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
Probably for friends, too. It doesn't mean which, by the way, can you talk to your friend Leslie Jones? We need to be on Supermarket Suite.
[30:22]
Monet X Change
Well, Leslie will be at the We're Here premiere on Friday, so you can say hi to her there.
[30:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
We need. Bob, I watch Supermarket Sweep religiously. You and I would fucking turn Supermarket Suite on.
[30:31]
Monet X Change
Only if they do, like, a celebrity supermarket sweeps.
[30:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[30:34]
Monet X Change
You know what I mean? I want to go on some of these shows, but I also want it to be the celebrity version. Because. God damn it, Monet, I have accepted our status. We are celebrities.
[30:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
We are for sure. And I want to go against you in $100,000 pyramid. Cause I would whoop on you.
[30:49]
Monet X Change
Is it trivia?
[30:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's. No, you, like, you have to, like, say, like, you have to guess the name. So, like, something with four wheels that you drive to work a car. I would beat you. No, you would not.
[30:59]
Monet X Change
Yes, sir.
[30:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
For sure. Bob. I'm very good at. I watch it. I watch every episode.
[31:02]
Monet X Change
Okay? I watch Doctors. I watch Dr. Pimple Popper all the time. I'm not qualified to do the work. Let's take a break. We'll be back. Do you believe in sacrificing yourself for the greater good?
[31:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
For the team of a. No. Well, it. It depends. In school, group project. Absolutely not. I'm not getting a failing grade because you're lazy. And. And you don't want me to rat you out.
[31:29]
Monet X Change
So what I'm saying is. So you are going to sacrifice yourself by. You're going to do more work. You're. Are you going to pick up that person's slack?
[31:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I will. I will tell on them. Like, Ms. Mr. Ritz, Bob didn't do this, that, and the other. And he did not Answer the phone when we called him. So assess the thing that way.
[31:43]
Monet X Change
So let's play it out. I'm the teacher.
[31:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
You ready? You're the teacher.
[31:45]
Monet X Change
I've noticed that you're. You got this. This. You guys, you have one day to finish this, and this whole chunk isn't done yet.
[31:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, can I be very honest? That whole chunk's with Jacob's responsibility, and I don't feel like it's my fault. Yes, this is a group project, but I'm not picking up Jacob slack, so that's his part of the project.
[32:01]
Monet X Change
Well, you know, a big part of this is not just about sex. I do want you to know about science and, you know, molecules and whatnot. But the most important thing is teamwork, so. So you all can figure it out between you, because I let you all divvy up the work between you. But at some point tomorrow, this has to be done.
[32:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
So at what point does your job as a teacher come in to. To relegate this? His, like, indecency? So let's say. So let's say you and Mrs. Marvel have a group project to do. Ms. Marvel knew any of the project. Now what?
[32:28]
Shannon Maldonado
So.
[32:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
And you do all of it, Mr. Mr. Caldwell.
[32:31]
Monet X Change
Well, the thing is, as part of my job, no matter what, at the end of the week, I have to have my work in. No matter who it is, no matter what it is, we all have to have our work. So you all got together. This will be reflected in all of your grades. So everyone is getting the exact same grade on this project. It is a group project. I did not delegate work. You all delegated the work yourselves. So I'm saying tomorrow, maybe you can have a talk with Jacob. Maybe you and your co. We have.
[32:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
We've spoken many times, and he's still not doing anything. So you're trying to teach us. So let me get this right, Mr. Carlo. Your lesson to us as students is to do everything and let people skate on through. That sounds like a really healthy life lesson.
[33:07]
Monet X Change
No, it's about peer engagement. This is problem solving amongst yourselves, which is a very important part of science.
[33:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you know what? I'mma engage my fist to your motherfucking throat after class.
[33:18]
Monet X Change
All right, Kevin, we're gonna have to send you the office. You can't me. He's not working. You just threatened to hit him.
[33:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I said my fist was gonna hit him. I'm not gonna hit him. My fist is gonna hit him.
[33:29]
Monet X Change
You gotta funny. Have you went down to the drama department?
[33:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Should I miss the call?
[33:35]
Monet X Change
You should go down there.
[33:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
You're pretty good. You wanna walk me?
[33:37]
Monet X Change
I do not. This is getting. There's just a ring. There's the bell. But, like, you've done Drag Race. And when one person. I will say that, like, you know what? Honestly, I think that what has taught me the most about teamwork in my life, and I'm not trying to be funny, is this podcast.
[33:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
How so?
[34:00]
Monet X Change
This. Monae. Can I just say it? The first season, the first year we did our little 13 episodes in one year. I was pulling a lot of weight.
[34:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's right.
[34:13]
Monet X Change
Now, to be fair, I had more time. I was. Well, I mean, I didn't have more time. I was doing eight shows a week at the time.
[34:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
But you were, like, stationary in one place on the thing. Also, I want to say this. When we started, you volunteered to all. You was like. You was like Monet. You literally were like Monet. All you have to do show up. I'm gonna edit it, and Mitch gonna do the video.
[34:29]
Monet X Change
Like.
[34:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, Monet. What's the problem? What's your problem?
[34:31]
Monet X Change
Okay, what about when you went back to All Stars and you were gone, and I was, like, sitting here. What about then?
[34:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
But we didn't have episodes.
[34:39]
Monet X Change
We did have episodes.
[34:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
When I was away doing All Stars, how would we have episodes?
[34:43]
Monet X Change
We filled it. Ms. Cracker filled in for you. Honey Davenport filled in for you.
[34:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
They did?
[34:50]
Monet X Change
Yeah, they did. Yeah, they did.
[34:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
So you say that this body. I talk about teamwork. Well, I. This podcast has taught me a lot about teamwork as well, and how to work as a team, because they've oftentimes what I would say. Bob exhibited Chef's Kiss. Teamwork. Today, there was a topic that Bob is wanting. Has been wanting to do for a while.
[35:09]
Monet X Change
So childish.
[35:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I came in, and Bob asked me, like, you know what, Monet? It's okay. I asked for another week. I'll say, you know what, Monet? We don't have to do it. We can do whatever you like to do today. It was that. That was. That was great. I love that. It made me feel very good.
[35:20]
Monet X Change
If anyone's wanted to go to one of. The topic was, I want to talk. Have a conversation about billionaires. This was. I. The idea came to me when Rihanna. When Rihanna became a billionaire and how I sent out a tweet that got the children. And it was. I can't remember. It was like someone. It was. Oh, it was Sandra Bullock with the bird mask.
[35:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
Bird box.
[35:44]
Monet X Change
Bird box. And it said all the. All the gays. When oh, the girls gays and they's When Rihanna became the eat the rich gays. When Rihanna became a billionaire. But we'll talk about that later.
[35:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Ooh, girls, gays and baes. That's a good one.
[35:56]
Monet X Change
But I actually said the eat the rich gays or the eat When Rihanna became a billionaire. Anyway, but yeah, so, I mean, so also, this project, this part podcast is legit. One of my favorite things I've ever done with my career. And honestly, the fans see it for us so hard. Like, the fans, like, when I say y' all see it, you all see it. But for some reason, the powers that be, I feel like they don't see it for us.
[36:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
I. I feel like that too, because
[36:28]
Monet X Change
they reach out to us to do individual stuff all the time. And I'll be like. They'd be like, who do you want to collab with? And I'd be like, you know, honestly, it's Monet. Like, Monet is the one that we should be having here. I don't really know how to do this. There it is. For this collab.
[36:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you tighten that one?
[36:41]
Monet X Change
There we go. For this collab. And then they were like, what about you? And, you know, they'll pick someone.
[36:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't even.
[36:48]
Monet X Change
I never even met Squeaky Golden Hay. What about you and Vivienne Pinay? What about you and Alisa Summers? We gotta get you and Mystique Summers Madison out here. I'm like, I have never met these girls. I've met Mystique.
[37:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Although there's that thing that we. That offer, and I think we should do it. I think it'll be fun. Just. Just.
[37:06]
Monet X Change
I went to talking about that before.
[37:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
I just like doing stuff with you. Sometimes the pay is not the best, but I'm like, it'll be fun.
[37:12]
Monet X Change
Drag them. I mean, it is, but. But I will. I do a lot of stuff with you. I will. I. I often take pay cuts to work with you. I just. No, I mean, girl, I'm talking about. We both took a pick up the whole. Y' all don't realize that the whole first year of our podcast, we. I think two years, we never made a dollar.
[37:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
Literally.
[37:38]
Monet X Change
I think the first time we made a dollar was on the Patreon, and it was not making a lot of money.
[37:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
And also, that money was going right back into the podcast and from our pockets. Yeah. So we weren't profiting. We started profiting on this podcast at the live shows.
[37:51]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
[37:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Live shows. Which was. Yeah.
[37:54]
Monet X Change
Like, two years into the process.
[37:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[37:56]
Monet X Change
So Once you start, which we. We gotta bring them back. Monet, we gotta do it. Come on. One.
[38:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
We said. And they. And they said, yes, Bob. Everyone is in agreement. You're the only one. Bob's like, monet, we gotta do this. Monet, we gotta. I'm like, okay, let's do it. Monet, we need to.
[38:11]
Monet X Change
I also feel like back. I also feel I used to have to, like, I'm not gonna lie, I used to have to beg Monet to do certain aspects of the show. I remember, like, being like, Monet, we have to do videos and. And money was like, I just don't think that.
[38:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I'll say it again. Because it.
[38:25]
Monet X Change
And I'll say it again.
[38:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Do I sound like that sometimes? Sorry, guys. And I'll say it again. It's because we weren't being paid to do it.
[38:35]
Monet X Change
Yeah, but money. I kept saying, if you.
[38:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
If you build it, they will come.
[38:38]
Monet X Change
Like, I have a dream of time going by. One day we're going to move into a brick and mortar space. What does that mean, brick and mortar? Like, like a. Like a storefront or a space. We're going to build out our, like, legit studio and we're going to be like five days a week. Like, this show, like, Sibling Rivalry is about to be one of the most popular, like, radio style shows. It's going to be so good.
[39:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm so down.
[39:03]
Monet X Change
Like, that would be so great. And then, like, we could have a thing called on Fridays we do drag. So Monday through Thursday we could be out of drag. And then we have a thing, like, on Fridays we do drag. And we're in there in full. Full drag. That would be so cute.
[39:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
Y' all notice by now Bob is like, an idea. Well, Bob always has. Bob is. You were constantly thinking about ideas. Like, constantly.
[39:23]
Monet X Change
Wouldn't that be fun, though?
[39:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
That'd be amazing.
[39:25]
Monet X Change
But I think we have to just start doing it because, like, we could either. Wait, you remember when we. We first. I was in San Francisco. Was I. It was during Berkeley. Yeah. I was in San Francisco when we got our first call. Being like, we're gonna. It was our first call from like a radio station or a podcast. And they were like, we're going to sign you guys up. And I was like, they full of shit. And whoever was. I don't remember who it was. They were full of shit. They did not sign us up.
[39:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[39:50]
Monet X Change
And then now we're on our second podcasting network now. But it was a whole thing for people to, like, see us. But I Don't know why. Like, the powers that be, except for these podcasting networks that we've been with are kind of like. Yeah, I guess.
[40:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. And I also want to say this. Watch. Re. I think we're just going to be a. Because Wash was such a tight turnaround. Yeah. We had a lot of questions about it. It'll. It'll come out a little later on Mondays. It's still going to come on Mondays. But the video one, it will always be on our Patreon Monday morning. But the audio one for. On all the podcast spaces will be like an afternoon release.
[40:24]
Monet X Change
Yeah. But if you want to see, first and foremost, always go to siblingrobway podcast.com support and join our Patreon. But I. This. This. This has definitely been my. My biggest teamwork moment. And to be honest, I'm really not into teamwork outside of this show. Like, I don't. I don't. I. And we're here. But also, the thing about we're here. We're here isn't really about teamwork. Like, it's not like Queer Eye. You know, Queer Eye is like five people working on one person.
[40:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
We're here.
[40:56]
Monet X Change
We show up. We show up in town, we all say, hey, girl. And then we. For a week, we leave. And then at the end, we're like, look what I did.
[41:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Oh, yeah. But so that's you and the girls. What about, like, your personal team? Like, you and Domino. And.
[41:09]
Monet X Change
Yeah, so I.
[41:10]
Shannon Maldonado
That.
[41:11]
Monet X Change
I will say this. That is definitely teamwork, but it's different because I'm the leader of the team. Like, I have more swag. And then swag. Say, so. Yeah, more. More of a. I don't know. The wrong. I'm having a. I have more. What's the word? I'm looking for authority in that situation. Because I'm. I'm. I mean, it's like, I give prompts. So this is how it works on We're Here. We have a prompt for the episode. So you all saw. We had a prompt where it was all, we're all in football. The trump was just football and blue and white. So we were like, what do we do? And I told Domino, I want to be in a jersey, but I wanted to be a catsuit. But I also wanted to be. So I want to be wearing football clubs, but not separates. I want to be in, like, one full jersey. Separate. So cute moment. And he was like, great. So then Domino goes and, like, draws up these really cool ideas. And then I will say, like, maybe, just maybe. Just, can we do the hip pads to the side or something like that? And then Domino goes, sure. But Domino. It is Domino's design from my, like, I mean, when I say a vague idea, I'm not sending reference. I'm not saying. I'm just saying, like, I wanted to be Jersey, I want to be a catsuit, and I want to be one piece, and then Domino does the rest. So the design is truly Domino's design. And then once Domino does the design, we go to Gloria. Gloria will choose Gloria, who's the owner of wigs, and Grace will pick some hair. So Gloria draws up hair, and she's like, I wanted. I'm thinking braids all the way to the floor. And I'm like, I love that. Cornrows all the way to the floor. Fierce. And then after that's all said and done, then Layla will send over a face chart, and then. Yeah, and that's typically how Kennedy is like. Well, Kennedy is organizing. And I also use Kennedy for a lot of reference, in her opinion. I trust Kennedy to paint about. About outfits and stuff. She went to school. She has a degree in costume design as well.
[42:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
Kennedy's great. Yeah.
[42:52]
Monet X Change
Kennedy also has a degree in costume design, so I'll go to Kennedy for her opinion. Me and Kennedy basically go back and forth over each thing after they send us a first pass. And so there is teamwork. And I also. I really believe in, like, letting people on your team shine. I really believe in letting people do what they do best. Like, what I loved about doing that. Pride. My first pride. I have all my pride in companies. I've done the very first one I did. I. I would just call them and
[43:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
just give them literally what Pride campaign?
[43:19]
Monet X Change
My. My Instagram. I. I.
[43:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
My Instagram.
[43:22]
Monet X Change
I did my rainbow Instagram.
[43:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
And do you want to talk about the red. The color red in your Pride series?
[43:28]
Monet X Change
Well, that was my second Pride series, but I. There was a second one for sure.
[43:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, say what was the first one?
[43:34]
Monet X Change
It was Dallas.
[43:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yes. Got it. Got it.
[43:36]
Monet X Change
The lady high. But Monet did give me. It was an old dress Monet gave me years ago, actually. And before you gave it to me before Drag Race. Before either of us were on Drag Race, I think. Did I. I'm pretty sure, like, both of this was before both of Monet. Monet went to, like, this. Tell them the story of you in the store.
[43:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God. So we be getting dragged for not
[43:57]
Monet X Change
putting pictures on the screen. We will. I promise. This picture is on the screen right now. Can y' all believe it. It is. Look, it is literally. It is literally right here between us.
[44:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I'm gonna, like, like the wheel of fortune.
[44:12]
Monet X Change
Ding. There goes the thing. But you were saying you're a little.
[44:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. So it was for Ms. Hell's Kitchen. I don't remember the first or the second one, but the opening thing. Because Ms. Hell's Kitchen is a pageant to raise money for AIDS and research and cycle for calls. So the first category is presentation is always red. So I wanted this. I was like. I wanted something in, like, red African print fabric.
[44:33]
Monet X Change
Ankara.
[44:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Ankara. So I'm like. I'm, like, looking around, looking around. I'm like, this is before. I didn't know about the garment district and stuff, so I just went to this small African lady shop on 123rd and Malcolm X Boulevard, and I walk, and I'm like, hey, can I see your red Ankara fabrics? And she shows me, and she's like, for who? I was like, for. For my friend. She wants to get a dress made, and I wanted the lady to make it. She was like, okay. And I had my measurements written down. I was like, I can just give the measurements. She can make it. She's like, no, no, no. I need to fit your friend. I need to fit your friend. And I was like, okay. So I come back, like, two days later, and I come back with, like, my pads and everything in a bag. And she's like, where's your friend?
[45:16]
Monet X Change
I'm like, she's right here.
[45:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
She's right here. And she was so confused, and I was like, give me a minute. So I go in the bathroom, put my padding on, and bitch, the look on her face. And I came with my titties, my corset bypass. She was like. And she just, I want to say, begrudgingly made this dress. Girl.
[45:33]
Monet X Change
Were you telling her you, like, it's actually. Were you saying, like, it's for another friend and she's my size, or are you just like, it's me, bitch?
[45:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. I said, yeah, that's what I said. I said. I said it was for my friend, and she was my size with all the batting and stuff on. It was so ridiculous.
[45:48]
Monet X Change
You were like, I know. She's busy. She's a very busy woman. So what I do is I just alter my body to look like her body. And we're. And we are not the same person. But to be fair, we are about the same size, and I am your friend. In your defense, you're right.
[46:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
Honestly, in terms of teamwork, I'M happy that you and I are so similar in size because we really get to borrow each other's clothes, which is great.
[46:12]
Monet X Change
It's really great.
[46:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
So convenient.
[46:14]
Monet X Change
Honestly, phenomenal. 10 out of 10 would recommend having a best friend who does drag who is the same size as you. Because I mean, my shit be a little saggy in the booty sometime. I did one time fill in. So I filled in for Monet on Work the World one time in Paris and I wore like two of Monet's outfits. What?
[46:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
Go ahead.
[46:36]
Monet X Change
Anyway, I was wearing this and there's this thing we call nj we call diaper butt, which is where like your butt just looks like too big or whatever. So Monet was wearing this pink outfit, metal, this pink metallic, like holographic looking fabric. And I put it on and I have. I had never really worn one of my outfits like a leotard before. And there was just. There was just so much butt space. So much like, like it was like, like a, like 2 inches off my ass. I don't know why that shit tickled me so much.
[47:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
Damn. Yeah. Wait, so how were you in school with. With group projects?
[47:15]
Monet X Change
I was, I was a horrible student.
[47:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, so you were the one who was slacking.
[47:19]
Monet X Change
No, I didn't slack. When it came to group projects. I would not slack. But honestly, my downfall was pride and. I'm kidding. My downfall was homework. Like when it came to. So when I was in high school, we had. It was me, Shanterica, and I can't remember the last girl's name.
[47:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
Lanifia.
[47:41]
Monet X Change
It was something with a cun. Because we had to. In anatomy. We had to. We had a cat. It would give you a full cat.
[47:49]
Bob the Drag Queen
A real like live a real dead.
[47:52]
Monet X Change
Not live a dead cat from the, from the, like the pound. So that. And it was. So it comes in like a, like a, like a vacuum sealed bag and it is just a. A dead cat. Yeah. So everyone gets a dead cat.
[48:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh my God.
[48:09]
Monet X Change
And you have to skim. You have to skin the cat. You have to take out all the organs and identify them.
[48:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
That is insane.
[48:19]
Monet X Change
How old are you all? Never dissected animals.
[48:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I've never dissected an animal in school ever.
[48:23]
Monet X Change
I was a. I was a junior or a senior. You have to. Ah, that's crazy. You skin the cat, you have to identify all the muscles, all the internal organs, and then you have to take the cat home. Someone out, take the cat home, you boil it and then you get all the meat off the bones.
[48:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
Bob, you're Kidding.
[48:43]
Monet X Change
I'm not making this up, Bob.
[48:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
You are. This is one of your end classes. I'm telling you such a lie.
[48:46]
Monet X Change
No, this is. And then you have to reassemble.
[48:49]
Bob the Drag Queen
Bob, you are such a liar.
[48:50]
Monet X Change
I'm not.
[48:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
A school is not giving a 17, 18 year old a full on cat and saving money.
[48:56]
Monet X Change
Yes.
[48:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
Imagine taking a cat home like mom, Mom, I need to borrow the. You are such a liar.
[49:01]
Monet X Change
I'm not lying. I wish I could fucking call Dernika right now. That is insane. I'm about to call. Danika's about to be like, why is Bob the drag queen calling me after literally Danika? There's no way Danika's answer this.
[49:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
And you have to boil it.
[49:14]
Monet X Change
You have to boil it.
[49:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[49:15]
Monet X Change
You have to boil the cat to get all the meat off the bones. Yeah. It happened at Morrow High School and they give you these dead cats and our cat was pregnant.
[49:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
Now you. I'm not.
[49:26]
Monet X Change
Now you're kidding. You are such a liar. We named our cat Shan Kriska because it was all of our names. Shantarika, Dernika and Chris. The cat's name was Shan Kriska who boiled it. Cause I know Martha Caldwell did not Shantarika or Shanti. I can't remember her name. But she took the cat home to boil it. Dernika's probably like, there is. Why when I say I have not reached out to Dirnika in like legitimately a solid.
[49:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
This is crazy.
[49:58]
Monet X Change
20 years. She's probably like, what the fuck? So this is where it gonna sound like I'm really lying. So Dernika is a twin and her sister's name is Dermica. I'm not making this up. Dermica and Dernica Dodson. And I'm pretty sure that I was with Dernica. Hey girl. Do you. Do you remember me from high school? Question mark. Sin.
[50:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. You would.
[50:35]
Monet X Change
You would. Shan. What's her name? I think me and her sister. I mean me and Dermica were probably a little bit closer than me and Dernika were. Dermica. Should I call Dermica? If they answer this, this would be so crazy. You are not connected. We cannot connect to it anyway, so Shannon, what's her name? I think her name was Shantierica. She took the cat home. Her mom was so grossed out she threw it away. Yes, but she threw out my grave.
[51:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's not what. So you got penalized for the mom throwing the cat out.
[51:13]
Monet X Change
So we all had to like scramble and join another group. So me and Dernika had to go join another group because Shannon, what's her name. Mom, threw our cat away. She had to take the cat home, put on your barbecue grill. But I could not. I lived in an apartment complex, so we couldn't. We didn't have a barbecue grill. I'm not making this up, Monet. And then she went to go boil it and her mom was freaked out. Like, why are you boiling a dead cat? A pregnant dead cat. Also, lots of our cats had BB's in them.
[51:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
Can y' all please sound off if y' all think this is real?
[51:46]
Monet X Change
Me and Danika Dodson and her sister. I can't remember if it was Dermika or Danika who was in the group with me.
[51:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Please comment below. Bob, I just. I just don't believe this to be true. This sounds insane. I don't care if it's the South. You cannot ask. You cannot tell kids to bring home a fucking dead pregnant cat and tell them to boil it at home.
[52:03]
Monet X Change
We didn't know the cat was pregnant.
[52:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
And also, how do you like kids like you? So what is it if you don't have a grill? So you wanted to. So your school wants you to take. Take this dead, pregnant cat into your kitchen where your family cooks dinner and boil it.
[52:15]
Monet X Change
The teacher said, do not do it on your kitchen because the cat is soaked in for Maldives and diseases.
[52:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
Right?
[52:21]
Monet X Change
I don't know if there's any diseases.
[52:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. I mean, they get diseases from mosquitoes that come out of fossils from 2000
[52:27]
Monet X Change
years ago and from trade. And you let them in your fucking bed. You eat their buttholes.
[52:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't do that anymore.
[52:33]
Monet X Change
You stop eating butt.
[52:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm spoken for. Well, nice to still do it, but I'm smoking for you. Beating.
[52:41]
Monet X Change
Do you eat his butt or not? Just tell me. I eat Jacob's butt. Great. Do you eat his butt?
[52:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
Perhaps? Must be nice.
[52:50]
Monet X Change
Anyway, yeah. And you take the cat home and you fucking boil it up. And so anyway, I had to join another group because the girl's mom threw our cat away. So she got a failing grade. Me and Dermika went to different groups that had already done all the work. So we just showed up. We did everything up until reassembling the cat.
[53:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
So they failed.
[53:09]
Monet X Change
And I fucking skinned a cat.
[53:11]
Bob the Drag Queen
They failed, Shanterica. Because she. Her mom threw out the cat.
[53:15]
Monet X Change
I'm not sure what happened to her, but I know that we.
[53:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
I haven't spoken to her today.
[53:21]
Monet X Change
Our group disbanded because our cat was thrown into the.
[53:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
What age your teacher Is unhinged. That is not right.
[53:28]
Monet X Change
I feel like dissecting animals is pretty standard.
[53:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it's like a frog. Normally something small.
[53:34]
Monet X Change
I dissected a frog. There were schools and. Bitch. There were schools in my district that did pigs.
[53:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, how big?
[53:43]
Monet X Change
Like a full size pig. The whole class would get together and do the South. So the whole. The. This. Did y' all not do this in school?
[53:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, the south is a different.
[53:53]
Monet X Change
Y' all are. Y' all are.
[53:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Bitch, you. You know that trauma. Y' all are just built different. Okay.
[53:57]
Monet X Change
The whole class got together and did. So my class, there were like maybe like 10. No, we're in groups of three. So probably like maybe like somewhere between eight and 10 cats. And then there was this other class in our same school that did. The whole class had one pig. And you show up to school one day and there's a fucking. An entire dead pig just sitting. Sitting on the.
[54:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
The lungs over here, the heart over here.
[54:23]
Monet X Change
No, it's one big pig. And then the kids rip it apart. The kids pull out the lungs, the kids pull out the heart. The kids skin the pig, the kids cut out the snout. The kids pull the brain out. And then the kids put the whole thing back together.
[54:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
That is insane to me. I need. We need to move on because I.
[54:42]
Monet X Change
And that's. That's why we and himself are good at teamwork and being serial killers.
[54:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
So did you think that you were a leader in that, or were you?
[54:52]
Monet X Change
I probably was. No, it was science, so I was not being a leader. I was always leading, like, in like, theater and like literature and like history. But when it came to science and math, I was never. I was a nobody's leader. And I. And once what's her name got our cat thrown out, it was just like the band broke up.
[55:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well and dragger challenges. I always. I'm. I've always been nervous about. Because, you know, if the group does terribly, they always try to throw the leader on first. They're like, well, Bob. It was Bob's. That Corey. Corey on Bob took the end. You end up being the bottom for the whole group's mistake.
[55:24]
Monet X Change
Our group challenges were perfect.
[55:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
Who was the leader in that? I don't remember.
[55:31]
Monet X Change
I don't remember who won that one. That might have. That wasn't the reading challenge. It was too early for the reading challenge.
[55:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not sure. I don't remember.
[55:37]
Monet X Change
It was Cha Cha. We did Cha Cha Bitch and Chi Chi Devane. And it was Chi Chi and someone else.
[55:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, one together.
[55:46]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Cause there were Two winners, and they each get to be the group leader, and they pick their groups, and you find out who's gonna pick last. And I think Kimchi got picked last.
[55:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
And then street meets. You were the lead of that.
[55:57]
Monet X Change
I. Maybe I was. Honestly, I would give it Acid Betty. Astabeti was more the leader of that group because I was unhinged. That episode, that was when I was fighting with everybody. Me and Thorgy going at it, Me and Lucian Peani going at it. That was an episode where I was like. I was definitely very outspoken that episode. And I actually do think that. That. That Betty probably should have won that episode.
[56:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, for sure. Betty was great. Betty was great on Drag Race.
[56:19]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Until she went home.
[56:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
The fucking doves.
[56:21]
Monet X Change
There was a recent moment someone showed me of Betty just, like, trashing Trixie, and I was like. I forgot how mean that was. Like, it was, like, mean a little bit. Like. Like. Like, Trixie was giving Kimchi this, like, sweet message. And then Betty's goes, look how ugly her makeup is.
[56:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
It's so ugly and untucked. Yeah, yeah, I remember.
[56:39]
Monet X Change
She's so ugly. She's literally ugly. Oh, I hate it. And Kim's like, no. And Kim's, like, crying, and she's like, oh, she's so fucking ugly.
[56:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
I love Betty.
[56:48]
Monet X Change
And I was like, jesus Christ. You know how it is when people get those messages on Drag Race?
[56:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, for sure.
[56:54]
Monet X Change
It's so emotional.
[56:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
I never got one. Did you get one?
[56:56]
Monet X Change
Did not get one.
[56:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
Me either.
[56:57]
Monet X Change
My roommate filmed one. My roommate, the person living in my
[57:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
house at the time, no one ever filmed one for me. They probably like, this ain't going far.
[57:04]
Monet X Change
Judy filmed one for me. Judy Darling filmed one. But also, I think they didn't air, because I would. I would have been like. I mean, I love Judy Darling, but I've been like, oh, hey, Judy.
[57:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'd have been like, Judy on All Stars. I would have. I was. I wish they would have. If they would like someone from you, I would have probably died.
[57:20]
Monet X Change
I got one for my mom at the finale.
[57:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, I remember that, of course.
[57:23]
Monet X Change
But I also talked to my mom that day. Like, I talked to her, like, earlier that day. It hit different on Drag Race because you. You're away and you're seeing anyone, you don't even like. I mean, y'. All.
[57:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't.
[57:33]
Monet X Change
You don't have phones, you don't have. You don't. All you have is it. The only medium media you have is a television that can. That. That is connected to Like Internet, like satellite tv. Not like you can't zoom through, like, Netflix and stuff.
[57:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yes, you can. On All Stars, we hear that.
[57:47]
Monet X Change
Mary Date. No, you had to watch what was on TV and. And then you have your iPod full of RuPaul's music, the lip sync song.
[57:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
And your memory.
[57:55]
Monet X Change
And your memory. So how did you masturbate during Drag Race? He's thinking, just recall. Memory recall.
[58:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
When? So six weeks long. I probably masturbated maybe twice. I can, like. I can like.
[58:08]
Monet X Change
Those lows were probably huge.
[58:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
They were very big loads. But, like, when I went to. For both season 10 and all stars.
[58:14]
Monet X Change
Did you masturbate to any of you?
[58:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe three times. Any of your.
[58:16]
Monet X Change
Any of your co stars?
[58:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
[58:17]
Monet X Change
Not even one?
[58:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
Not even a single one?
[58:19]
Shannon Maldonado
One?
[58:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Ew. No. None of them. It was, like, memory stuff, like hookups I had. Because, you know, there are some hookups that stay in your brain, but I. There are, like, four hookups in my brain. I will never forget. Never forget them.
[58:36]
Monet X Change
What's so great about them?
[58:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
They were just all the things, like, happened one. Honestly, one recently with.
[58:43]
Monet X Change
I thought you were spoken for.
[58:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Right. That's. With. With him. I'm like, I'm gonna remember this version of my life, probably. It was great. It was great.
[58:51]
Monet X Change
And that's why you're.
[58:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's why I'm. That's why. That's why he locked it down, girl.
[58:55]
Monet X Change
Also, I'm a little bit weird out that everyone has met this guy except me.
[58:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, Bob, everyone. It was Cracker Pixie. Because they were together. Who else? That's it. You're gonna meet him on Friday.
[59:06]
Monet X Change
I didn't even know. I haven't even seen a picture of him.
[59:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, you have.
[59:09]
Monet X Change
Literally not one.
[59:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
I did show you.
[59:10]
Monet X Change
I only got his name when you said it in front of Plastique and Kim. Has this guy met Monet X Change?
[59:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
He met Monet x change in 2018 when I was leaving drag. I was leaving Dragon, New York, and Patty was taking too long, so it was just me walking through the streets looking for my car. And he said he stopped me. He was like, do you need help? And I was like, you know, because I thought it was one of the fans that want a picture. I was like, no, no, I'm good. And he, like, tried to, like, try to help me do the thing. And I, like, shooed him away. So he did meet me in Dragon.
[59:40]
Monet X Change
Jacob, have you met me? Have you met Bob the Red Queen before I. Oh, yeah.
[59:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you meet Bob before you met Bob? No, that don't sound sure.
[59:47]
Monet X Change
No, but my ex did.
[59:49]
Bob the Drag Queen
Really?
[59:50]
Monet X Change
What did your ex meet me? Dragcon. Do they have a good story?
[59:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
What did it say?
[59:54]
Monet X Change
No, it was after we broke up.
[59:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh.
[59:58]
Monet X Change
Anyway, I did meet Ezra before.
[60:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Where?
[60:04]
Monet X Change
Apparently I met him at Mickey's. He was with Willem. Cause Ezra and Willem were friends and Ezra said. Ezra said I paid him dust.
[60:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Really?
[60:16]
Monet X Change
Ezra was like, you did not. You didn't even. I did not even exist, Bob, when
[60:21]
Bob the Drag Queen
you were not in the mood, you are not in the mood.
[60:24]
Monet X Change
Well, when I'm working and I'm like, I'm in drag, I'm working. And I was like, I'm not talking. Like, I'm not saying it's just some twink, but I was like, listen, I'm working. You know what I mean? And he was like, yeah, you did not picture of him. Oh, he's cute. Oh, what did I said? That shirt.
[60:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah, I told you that.
[60:46]
Monet X Change
Oh, she's family. Hello, somebody. I like this guy. Oh, I like him. I am so excited for you.
[61:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[61:02]
Monet X Change
Do you think sex is teamwork?
[61:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
Ooh, like sex is. Oh, yeah, for sure. Sex is a dance. Okay. You kind of have to like go with your partner, but also know like, when to pull back. Way to make it sexy. Or like, maybe you may not be like into doing something in that moment, but you trust your partner. You like, go that way. You're like, oh, my God. That was actually really fun. I think so. I think sex is definitely teamwork. For sure. You do? What do you think?
[61:25]
Monet X Change
Yeah, I think sex is teamwork. It is more than anything, that's communication, which is a big part of teamwork. Yeah. If you're gonna have. And whether you're having sex with a long time partner or a person you just met on the dance floor at, you know, Evita, you gonna have to like, you're gonna. If you wanted to be good, you two are gonna have to communicate.
[61:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[61:44]
Monet X Change
You're gonna. You're just gonna have to.
[61:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[61:46]
Monet X Change
Like, I think my worst hookups have been where there was like no communication going on. I'm like.
[61:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
Or that person was just so set on what they wanted to, they had. They didn't give a fuck what you were into.
[61:56]
Monet X Change
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, our like a high school model was like, teamwork makes the dream work. Have you had things where you're like, I'm not asking you to say any names, but people you work with and you were like, never again.
[62:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
Absolutely, for sure. Queens especially, like, you did a gig with them, you're like, I never want to tour this person again. I never want to do a gig with this person again. I will never do this digital photo shoot, whatever the fuck, ever again.
[62:20]
Monet X Change
Well, can I. Can I say something that has been very controversial online?
[62:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
What?
[62:23]
Monet X Change
Because a lot of folks. Because there is a. There's a tour coming up with a lot of girls on it.
[62:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, girl.
[62:27]
Monet X Change
And a lot of folks are like, I thought the girl said never again. And then the girls are like, well,
[62:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I saw that. I saw a lot of people have butt hurt that myself and some of the other girls are on the Marin Peter tour. And I wanted those people to say, mind your fucking business. I think that behind the scenes, things have happened, people have apologized. And again, you know me, Bob. I'm like a big old SAP. If someone tells me, like, they're sorry, I'm like, I try to see the best in them. And do they?
[62:56]
Monet X Change
I haven't experienced this part of Monet.
[63:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
And yeah, I just. I may bitch. I may walk away again. I may be like,
[63:11]
Monet X Change
I think relationships with people change over time. And the fans are like, honey, I hurt. I hurt.
[63:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
And people, the fans always swear they're in on stuff, and they always also have people like Bianca who do the most and make shit bigger than it needs to be.
[63:27]
Monet X Change
That is true. That is her. That's her whole game.
[63:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's her whole personality.
[63:31]
Monet X Change
Yeah. But also then she does that. And the fans are like, monet and Bianca are fighting. Like they are friends.
[63:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[63:39]
Monet X Change
Like Monet and Bianca are. Are like they hang out their friends.
[63:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[63:43]
Monet X Change
I think part of being friends with Bianca is knowing that she's probably going to be shady at some point and hateful and nasty down the line.
[63:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, for sure. For sure. But can I tell you, things just do not bother me anymore. Like, stuff like that. I'm like, okay, stuff like what?
[64:01]
Monet X Change
Like Bianca.
[64:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like Bianca saying her thing and everyone be like, oh, yeah, Monet. Monet and Bianca are fighting. Oh, yeah, Bianca is right. Monet. How dare you. We need to. What? Oh, what makes me. What makes me feel so good when fans. When fans were like, okay, now you need to respond, and you don't respond and they get mad that you're not responding. Oh, I fucking love it.
[64:17]
Monet X Change
Well, the fans really want to hear. You know, there's a great episode. I really recommend any. This is not paid. Watch the other two.
[64:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
Watch the what?
[64:26]
Monet X Change
The other two. It's on hbo. First season was on Comedy Central. Second season on hbo. It is a show about. It's like loosely Loosely based on, like, Justin Bieber, but from the perspective of, like, his siblings, his much older siblings, and this, like, really famous kid who's, like, in high school, and then second season, he's in college, and it's, like, what it's like to be the sibling of a very famous Internet kid who's, like, now, like, MTV's, like, the toast of the town. And there's this one episode all about how one of his sisters, like, becoming, like, now she's becoming, like, a successful businesswoman. And there are these girls who are, like, trying to bring her down. All they want to do is, like, just fucking bring her down. And then Wanda Sykes character was like, it's because they look up to you.
[65:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it.
[65:17]
Monet X Change
Like, they really look up to you. And they. And, you know, when you unfollow them. Spoiler alert. When you unfollow her on Instagram, it really hurt her feelings. It's a really fun. It's a funny comedy.
[65:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay?
[65:29]
Monet X Change
Like, when you. When you unfollowed her, it really hurt her feelings. So now she's trying to attack you because you mean so much to her.
[65:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it.
[65:36]
Monet X Change
So then afterwards. Spoiler alert again. Spoiler alert. I'm gonna say this one more time. Spoiler alert. At the end of the episode, she comes up and she goes, hey, I'm, you know, sorry I unfollowed you. I'll follow you again. And then she. And then the girl, like, geeked out and was like, oh, my God, I cannot believe that she's following me. Like, Brooke Dubeck is following me again on Instagram. And then she's, like, muted her.
[65:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
But I have so many people muted, they don't even know. Not to mention, you know, muting is better than blocking. Oh, love it. And not to mention, you know, I've been working a lot with Mateo on, like, material and jokes and stuff, so I'm definitely gonna use this time to workshop a lot of my stuff in front of huge audiences.
[66:09]
Monet X Change
Mateo needs to be.
[66:11]
Bob the Drag Queen
We all.
[66:12]
Monet X Change
We all owe him some money. Me, you, and Miz Cracker, because he helped me with my. With my. My second special. And so the way he helped me, he. First of all, he, like, just uses his connections and got me on, like, everyone's show. Like, if Mateo says, like, my friend wants to do your show, they'll just. They just gave me a spot. And the same with Ms. Cracker got at the Cellar. She got invited back to the Cellar, which is, like, the number one company club in America. It's, like, the most prestigious Should I say Coming club in America? And then also, I told him about all my jokes. I was, like, flushing them out. But Mateo would really be out here. He really is helping the queen.
[66:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
So I'm like, I'm not gonna fuck what y' all have to think. I'm gonna use this time to better myself and my career, my craft. Yeah.
[66:50]
Monet X Change
So did you take my advice?
[66:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
Which was what?
[66:53]
Monet X Change
I gave you some notes about those jokes you told at Life Is Beautiful. Oh, yeah.
[66:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, for sure. I love that. I'm definitely gonna use those.
[66:59]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Let me know how it works. That was. If you used that reference, that was great. That'd be.
[67:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
So what was it again?
[67:04]
Monet X Change
Frozone, bro. Mon was saying she's going up the steps like a.
[67:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like a ice.
[67:10]
Monet X Change
You were like 2 by 2 or 4x4, like, asking. And I was like, if you. Cuz you the way you were doing, you look, like, frozen. I was like, but you don't wear up the stairs like Frozone.
[67:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I love you so much. It's a great episode.
[67:20]
Monet X Change
I love you, too. We did some great teamwork today, by the way. Just so you guys know, me and Mon are not trying to be extra nice because we had a volatile episode.
[67:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
They're really not.
[67:26]
Monet X Change
This is our natural.
[67:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
A volatile one will probably come soon.
[67:29]
Monet X Change
Yeah. Yeah. But people are like. Oh, you can tell they're trying to be. Like, we're not trying to be. This is the ebb and flow. Is it ebb and flow?
[67:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
Ebb and flow?
[67:39]
Monet X Change
Yeah. This is the ebb and flow of our. Is it eb? Ebb. What is eb? What is an ebb?
[67:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that's the name of the person.
[67:45]
Monet X Change
I don't. Wait. Ebb and like dw. Oh, it's E B. Okay. What is an ebb? I'll read the definition for the people. The movement of the tide out to sea is an ebb.
[67:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
So it. So you don't trust Jacob, and I'm.
[67:57]
Monet X Change
Jacob doesn't have a microphone. Okay. So this is the ebb and flow of our relationship. It is quite natural. I'm gonna hate this bitch in a minute. We're trying to hang out tonight and you won't agree.
[68:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
You won't come to the place because
[68:09]
Monet X Change
I don't want to go. Okay. I don't mind saying this out loud. It's not the person. I don't like going to the clubs in la. I don't have relationships with all the managers.
[68:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
Right.
[68:19]
Monet X Change
I go to. I go to therapy. Rest in peace. I Go to industry.
[68:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
And everyone knows you.
[68:24]
Monet X Change
They know me. They're treating me nice or ushering me in if I want. If I don't want to be. So I can stand in the DJ booth. I know all the DJs.
[68:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
I can.
[68:32]
Monet X Change
I can go backstage with the managers. I've worked at all those bars. I couldn't even. I tried to go hang out and see what's. What's their name? Elia and Cornbread. And you were there? Yeah, yeah, at this. At the Abbey. And the. The guy wasn't even gonna let me in the front door. The bouncer was like, who the are you? And we had to get the manager, and the manager was like, is that Bibi? Like, who the fuck is that? And then, like, they finally let us in.
[69:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I feel that. That. That I do feel, which is really annoying. And then so, like, there's like, no, like, relief. Like, you just. You were just in it and everyone's, like, coming at you.
[69:13]
Monet X Change
So me not wanting to go to Abby has nothing to do with, like, the people in the show and the company. It's like I. And I don't mind saying this, at a certain level of fame, especially gay fame in a gay space.
[69:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[69:25]
Monet X Change
I need to be able to be sequestered a little bit.
[69:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
For sure. I feel that.
[69:28]
Monet X Change
And that's why. That's why there's that weird thing where, like, everyone's like, I'm just saying this.
[69:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
You're going to.
[69:35]
Monet X Change
You're going to do your little bit where you act like, I don't like her, which is not true. There's this video of Rihanna, like, in a swarm of fans, like, being, like, completely sworn by fans.
[69:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
[69:44]
Monet X Change
And everyone's like, she's the real one. It's like, if you don't want that doesn't make you not real, you know?
[69:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Why do you.
[69:52]
Monet X Change
Do not get it.
[69:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm kidding.
[69:55]
Monet X Change
Do not hate.
[69:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm kidding. I know.
[69:56]
Monet X Change
All right, we got to get out of here. I love you very much.
[69:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
I love you very much too, Roberta.
[69:59]
Monet X Change
Your hands are so light skinned.
[70:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
My hands are not light skinned.
[70:03]
Monet X Change
They're lighter than your face, Mama Bob.
[70:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
They're lighter than you.
[70:06]
Monet X Change
Now put your hand by your face.
[70:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
My hand's not lighter than my face, bitch.
[70:09]
Monet X Change
And also the tips of your fingers are, like, super, like, white. The palms of your hand are the color of Jacob's skin. Like, look at my. Look at my.
[70:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. The palm of your hands are the color of Naomi's skin.
[70:23]
Monet X Change
Jacob, come put your arm. You're armed by. By Monet's white ass. Not the palm, the back of your hand. That is almost the same. I cannot believe how white your hands are. We gotta go. Bye, everybody.
[70:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
The one where we find that Mon's.