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Monet X Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
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Bob the Drag Queen
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Bob the Drag Queen
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Bob the Drag Queen
My name is Bob the Drag Queen.
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And I'm Monet X Change.
Bob the Drag Queen
And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, Monet comes out as a swiftie.
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We talk about technology and we find
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out what made Monet say this girl.
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Bob, don't do it. And we find out what made Bob say this.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is the most evolved version of you. Why is the rainbow gray?
Monet X Change
Why do you think the rainbow's gray, Bob?
Bob the Drag Queen
Using his word? Because you're queer, but you're sad.
Monet X Change
Do I. Do I come off as a particularly sad person to you?
Bob the Drag Queen
That EP comes off a little sad. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Rotation is not sad. Like, what I like is not sad.
Bob the Drag Queen
I said a little sad. I didn't say it was overwhelming. It's not a Sam Smith album. It's not an Adele album.
Monet X Change
There's only one sad song on it. Really?
Bob the Drag Queen
No. I find you to just be. I'm sorry. Exhausting. Is that the word I meant to use? Sorry?
Monet X Change
You already come in here.
Bob the Drag Queen
Venomous aether. Gray Rainbow is kind of sad. You unused. Like, is that sad? Is it unsad? Body's a little sad.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Body is sad and street light is sad. Those are only two sad songs.
Bob the Drag Queen
You and you is like, my partner is shady and I'm gonna be like you. You wanna be you? I'm gonna be. I'm gonna pull a you on you.
Monet X Change
Yeah. Why is that sad?
Bob the Drag Queen
I guess it's vengeful.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
Monet X Change
I'm about to say, have you listened to the song Samar.
Bob the Drag Queen
But the theme is, like. So, for example, my loneliness is killing me. Yeah. She's singing upbeat, but it's still sad.
Monet X Change
Yeah. I'm not talking about the beat. I'm talking about the words, the lyrics, the text.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. It's like your partner's, like, being shady, and you're like, now I'm gonna be like you. I am now stooping to your level.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but it's not sad. It's being vengeful. It's being a little spiteful. It's all those things. So you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bouquettrell.
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Hey, ladies, if your men want to get buckwhile, just go. What did Jacob say?
Bob the Drag Queen
I was once limited. I was once limited in how I saw the world. Monet Exchange. Reminisced. Reminisced. This is a novel. I thought the world was only red and blue and those eight colors you get in a crayon box. Elementary school. You got the eight one. Damn Brokey. I grew up and graduated. Instead of having blue, I had cerulean. Instead of having all these muted and basic. The colors, I allowed myself to play with everything. And then. And she has. And the world is so much more beautiful and so much brighter. So I think that everyone should experience that. And that's the. And that's the drag. Let drag take you and transcend your. Your perception into something bigger, better, brighter, and fiercer. I wrote that for Monet. I actually do. If you. If you guys ever had a print review, I actually just write them out. Shouldn't do it myself.
Monet X Change
Say it again.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, any interview. You guys. If any press release. Ever done an interview with Monet. But she didn't actually. She was just like. It was like a typed interview. I actually did it for her. It's true. Can you come clean about that?
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I have a question.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why.
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Why do you. What. What is it about your personality? What disorder do you have that you feel that you have to take credit for everything? I do. What?
Bob the Drag Queen
I take credit for things that I take credit for. Personality defect.
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Is that about you?
Bob the Drag Queen
I take credit for things that I've had an impact in. And the fact that I literally write your interviews, I think needs to be acknowledged. We're gonna call out. We're gonna call out people who don't write their own song but say they do. We can't call out people who don't write their own interviews. And also, fun fact, Monet doesn't sign her own signatures. If you ever got something signed by Monet, she's not signing it. That's. That's Patty.
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Can I tell you one time I had it. I got a check from Civil rivalry.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's not true. But there are girls who don't sign their.
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Wow, I see you one time. I gotta check for simmer. Rivalry for something. Whatever. We were paying ourselves off or something, and I forgot and I went to the bank to deposit and I realized I didn't sign. I didn't sign our check. So I had a whole thing with the bank. The bank was like, are you stealing money for some. I was like, can't you see this under my own things? How am I stealing money from.
Jacob
From that account?
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It was a whole bezel.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, just because you own the company doesn't mean you can take any money you want from it.
Jacob
Yeah, but like, when Monet used some money to pay for her wigs, I
Bob the Drag Queen
do remember that specifically. Yes.
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There is everything that we've seen New York, which remind me, this is this thing I need to talk about.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
Jacob
Do you want to write it down somewhere so we. You don't forget.
Monet X Change
Jacob, Mind your fucking business.
Bob the Drag Queen
So, Monet, I want to know your
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thoughts on
Bob the Drag Queen
the girl's drag evolving to be, like, gender fucky slash little to no drag. Have you. Have you. I. I listened to Rose's EP the other day. Oh, boy.
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And what'd you think? And does. Is. Is that. Is that a major theme of her? Of her. Of her.
Bob the Drag Queen
Of her album? I think her. No, but her current visual is like, she's not in drag for a lot of it, or she's doing, like, drag with like a. It's like gender fucky less phenomenon than feminine nominal that she used to do.
Monet X Change
Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of girls are trying to transition. I mean, I think the. The. The one big one that comes to mind that kind of like, I'm leaving drag behind. Fuck. Drag is Aja. Remember when Aja, After All Stars 3 Aja was, you know, she was drag, drag, drag to drag. And then all of a sudden she was like, hey, I'm doing rap and I'm leaving the drag behind. And it was like a big thing. Fans were like, I came to this show expecting Aja, not this. And it was a whole thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, my question is, I think there's a lot of. A lot of girls who find their drag to be a Persona.
Monet X Change
Yeah. And that's not my experience.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, if your drag is a Persona, if, like. But also, like, no, feel free. Have your drag be a Persona. But my drag is never really. I mean, in my early aughts, my drag was Persona was Personified. I bought to see a girl walking
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around with that damn whip trying to fucking attack people in the streets of New York.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, first of all, that is something that I. I was never trying to attack anyone. To be clear, I've seen the footage
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involved you literally that. That. That white lady on 23rd street that you hit with the whip that we don't talk about. But I hope one day that she gets the voice. Young girl, don't cry.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, she won't. She won't dare because she doesn't want the. The full footage released. She'll be. She'll be releasing edited footage, but I'll pull a Taylor Swift and dropped the whole. The whole unedited footage. Kim Kardashian.
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Nobody said, did you see that clip of Kim Kardashian on Andy Cohen show? And he was like, how are things with. How are things with the hard things with you and Taylor Swift? And she goes. He's like, have y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All.
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Have you guys apologized or everyone just moved on? She was like, everyone's moved on.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's gonna apologize.
Monet X Change
She wants to be. I feel like Kim Kardashian is such a fucking pick me bitch. I know she wants to be friends with fucking Taylor Swift so bad, but Taylor Swift will never. Taylor Swift is so petty. She would never be friends with that bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought pick me wouldn't want to be friends with the girls or pick me want to be friends with the boys.
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And I know what it means. But in this confines. In the parameters of this, you know, Kim Kardashian would love nothing more than to be friends with. Because Taylor Swift is rich, fierce, and successful and so beloved. You know, she wants to be friends with her. You know she does, and it eats her alive that she will never be.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, Taylor Swift said what she said.
Monet X Change
Yeah, and Beyonce fucking deserved that. I mean, and Kim Kardashian deserved that shit, especially everything she did with fucking with that fucking idiot Kanye. Anyway, go on back.
Bob the Drag Queen
To me, this seems to me like a lot of times when there's drama, Taylor Swift comes out smelling like roses.
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I was just saying, Bob, at the Grammys, when you watch. Watching Taylor Swift watch the Grammys, it was so illuminating for me because, number one, everyone always talks about how sweet, how kind, how generous this woman is. And when people wins awards, she's literally up there jump and screaming and celebrating everyone so hard. And I'm like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Because she has every award they've already won. If they won it, she already got it.
Monet X Change
I don't think that's why she doesn't, she doesn't.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think she has any jealousy because I think it's hard to experience jealousy when you're on the top. I would know. I think when you're on the top, it's hard to experience jealousy. So she's like, why would I be jealous that Beyonce won album of the year? I've already won it. Why would I be jealous that you won New Artist? I've already won it. Why would I be jealous that you're selling tickets? I'm selling more tickets. So honestly I'm happy for you.
Monet X Change
But I mean, I mean I think it's easy to. If you can reduce it down to that. I think there are also good natured people and I think that, I mean, I don't know, I don't think it
Bob the Drag Queen
doesn't make you good natured. I'm just saying like it's really easy to not feel jealousy when you have nothing to be jealous about because you're literally.
Monet X Change
Well, I'm saying, choosing to believe that maybe it's not because of that. Maybe because she's generally like. Even if, let's say, I mean we won't know this world because we live in a world where Taylor Swift has all these things. But I would like to leave in my mind, in my heart that if there was a multi where to tell us if didn't win all these things but she was still super successful and whatever, she would still be overjoyed and ecstatic for all these people.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you ever been jealous of someone who had more than you or had someone that you wanted?
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I think as a kid, I think growing up as a, like, I think that, I think one place I did get jealous of other people for like when I was in high school and everyone knows I went to a performing arts. Not everyone, but I went to a performing arts school that was very faggoty, very gay. The bitch. We had the music theater kids, the drama kids, the ABT kids, the drag queens, the. The drag queen literally in school drag queens. And I was so jealous of how. Of them being out. Cuz I could not fathom where I would be out. So to see these fucking ballet dancing boys, these Alvin Ailey boys, these music theater boys, just being so faggoty and out and open. I was so jealous because I was like, this will never be me. I will never have the courage to be like these people.
Bob the Drag Queen
You don't experience jealousy as an adult. I'm just gonna go ahead and say before you answer, if you say no I don't believe you.
Monet X Change
I'm not gonna go ahead and throw that out there. I can't think of a people who
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say, I'm not even. I don't get jealous. I just don't believe you.
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Not in drag. Like, not in drag. Like, jealous. Like, I mean, feelings of like, oh, I wish I did that gig, but not like, oh, I fucking hate. I can't believe that they didn't get it. Like, maybe. Maybe. When I'm thinking jealousy, I'm thinking of, like, a toxic thing. Like, ugh, why did they get it and not me? The closest person that I would. That there are parallels between us and we work together a lot would be you. I would feel jeal, but there's nothing that. But there's nothing that you've gotten or got or done. And I'm like, ugh, I wish I generally have not felt that. I really haven't.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's different when you're friends with someone and when you appreciate them on a different level. I've been jealous of people that I'm friends with. Like, for example, I mean, it doesn't have to be vitriol. It doesn't have to be like, fuck that, bitch. Like, I was jealous that you did Wilding out, and I didn't do it because, like, they were like, comedy and rap. And I was like, this is crazy. Was. It Was my phone busy that day? But I wasn't mad. I wasn't, like, angry. I was like, oh, man, I'm so jealous. I wish I had done that. I don't think jealousy has to be like, you fuck you, bitch. You fucking bitch. It's like, oh, that would've been so much fun. I wish I had done that.
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Probably the biggest thing will probably be traitors when you got traitors. Because I'm such a fan of reality game shows and everyone knows I love shit like that Survivor, all these shows. But again, I wasn't jealous, though. The biggest career thing, you getting on Drag Race before me, I was like, those are the big things I would have wanted. But because it was you, there was nothing. A moment, I was like, I wish I would have gotten that.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you can be happy for someone and jealous at the same time.
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But I'm telling you, I know you can, but I'm saying I have not. I didn't feel those things. And I'm trying to think of, like, big career things I would feel jealous about, and I did not feel that maybe with somebody else.
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe you see the Queen selling tickets or a makeup brand eating the girlies up or. And been like, oh, that's so, like, I wish, like, not again. It's not vitriol to the person, just like.
Monet X Change
So you mean. Well, let's call exact things out, right? Like the fact that Trixie Mattel's makeup company was fucking. When I say dog walking us, cat training us, pissing on us. No, I was. I don't think I was jealous.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm genuinely happy for Trix. But also, like, I wish I had. I know, I know, I know, I
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know, I know we moved past the not happy, not happy. I'm just saying. But I genuinely didn't feel jealous. I really did not feel jealous. I'm not even trying to do a thing. Trying to do a bit. I did not feel jealous. And I think, like, getting on Drag Race before me or let's. Let's. I think that. Let's say, remove you from it. Let's say it was maybe like, Pixie who got on Drag Race before me and, like, we're together. I probably would be jealous of that because I'm like, this fucking bitch that is so continuous. I can't believe she got that before me. I think I would have felt that before. Like, that would have made me feel really jealous and not even, like, jealous. Like, I'm happy for her. I would probably. It would have been vitriol and jealousy.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's interesting. That's. That's very interesting. Back to Rose and the. And the idea of, like, people like, like, because Rose says she's not quitting drag, her drag is evolving is what she said, which.
Monet X Change
That's what I want to say. That was. That's. Thank you. Bring us back. Um, I think that art, like, artists evolve and change and shed and grow all the time. I think that because a lot of us are drag queens, people just see us as drag queens, but we're just artists, right? I. I think it's. I think a big reason is of. Of that. Why people feel that for queens like Lala Ri and when Aja did it and queens, like, leave the drag behind because they met us as drag queens, it's hard for them to digest us in another way. Not say they can't. But a lot of them only want to see the drag. But I mean, artists evolve and change and do shit differently all the time. And I think drag queens are not exempt from that. Like, drag queens can evolve and change and shed layers and add them again. Like, Aja. Aja started doing drag again, right? And so I think that. I think. I think it's fine. I don't think it's weird.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I don't think it's weird. But I'm saying.
Monet X Change
I'm not saying you think it's weird, but a lot of fans think it's weird.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's like Rose released her new songs and she's not in drag in these new songs. Or is this an evolved version of her drag?
Monet X Change
I mean, drag is everything, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but also, no. Yes, but no.
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A famous.
Bob the Drag Queen
The.
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The Queen of Drag once said you're. We're all born naked and everything else you put in drag. Right?
Bob the Drag Queen
So I. So, so, so, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's all drag, blah, blah, blah. But I think it's fair to say that what you and Mitch McConnell are doing is not the same thing. We can agree on that, right? Mitch McConnell's not a drag queen. We can agree on that, right?
Monet X Change
I mean, like, who said I think he's a drag in the house? Mitch McConnell is doing drag in the house.
Bob the Drag Queen
So are we going to sit here in the streets on this podcast I'm getting.
Monet X Change
I get it.
Bob the Drag Queen
So if you look at Rose's new video, in my opinion, she's not in drag. But is this just an evolved version of her drag? You know, a queen in New York City, famously.
Monet X Change
Can you bring up a freeze frame? Like, is she like, what are you saying? She's not in drag. She's not like. She's like this.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'll let you be the judge. You can be the judge, and you tell me if this is drag.
Monet X Change
Yo, this is Bob's new thing. So y' all remember I told you about. Well, this is for the visual people.
Bob the Drag Queen
How about that? Waiter, let's ask the audience.
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Do you remember, for the people watching, remember when I said Bob, I think he. Bob stopped doing this. Bob used to do Monet. This was his thing. Now she loves this. This is your dude. Okay, we're watching Verse Days video for Overqualified, and they are in a mustache of a very heavy boy beat. Or, sorry, a very heavy makeup beat. This is contoured, highlighted for. For the nerds. But there's no. There is little shadows.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean.
Monet X Change
I mean, is that a drag queen? No, that's not a drag queen. That would not say that's a drag queen.
Bob the Drag Queen
And go into the video right before this one. Jacob, the video where she's. Where she's dancing. Is this drag? Answer my motherfucking question. In fact, answer it after this break. So is that.
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Why do you have the outfit on backwards?
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not wearing it backwards.
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Yes, you are. The fuzzy part goes inside.
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
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Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
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Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
That doesn't even make sense.
Monet X Change
Literally. Literally. Look at the fucking top of the hood, bitch. The layer. No, flip that over. The little square at the top. Yes. Because it's supposed to be that way. The fuzzy part. To keep you warm, bitch.
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel warm.
Monet X Change
I mean, you don't have to change it. It's fine. You don't have no one. The hoodie police aren't gonna come get you. This is wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
If you missed it, you missed it.
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This is wild that you wore the outfit inside out. That's wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
I didn't realize.
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I want you to stay, I guess.
Bob the Drag Queen
Does this make more sense?
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Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, it didn't occur to me.
Monet X Change
So here's a question. Is this drag?
Bob the Drag Queen
So back to the question. Is that dragon?
Monet X Change
You know, I wouldn't say that's drag. I would say the most recent one. She's wearing a lot of makeup. I would call that closer to drag than the.
Bob the Drag Queen
Is that an evolved. So when she says her drag is evolving, does she mean, like. Cause there are moments where she's, like, in drag, with the mustache and, like, in drag.
Monet X Change
I saw it when she had that blonde hair and she was talking to the camera.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So I'm like, gray hair. When she says my drag is evolving, is that what she means? Is that her evolved drag or is it the mustache thing? Is that the evolved dragon?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I think maybe the mustache is evolved. And she's gonna play with the gender fuckery and the makecossity of all of
Bob the Drag Queen
it, but not the stuff in the video that's out of drag, right?
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
There was a queen in New York City who famously went on a thing where she was like, all drag is art, and all art is valid. And her name was Elizabeth James. And Elizabeth James, she said, baby, let me tell you right now, I am a drag queen no matter what. And she would go to her gigs fully out of drag. I mean, do the same gig fully out of drag. It was like, it is what it is.
Monet X Change
I forgot about Elizabeth James. I didn't know this era of her. So when she did that, what happened?
Bob the Drag Queen
There was, like, a bit of unrest in the scene. People who were like, it's valid. There are people who are like, this is not drag. There are people who are like, you can't come to the gigs like this.
Monet X Change
What did the owner say of the bottom?
Bob the Drag Queen
It was Brooklyn. So, you know, I'm not really in the Brooklyn scene. I just remember seeing it on Facebook being like, ooh, girl, what is like, this is interesting. Honestly, I kind of. To go to a show
Monet X Change
that's interesting. I mean, there, there been parts of me that sometimes I would like to do standup out of drag, which I have done out of drag. But it's, it's tough when like, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm talking about stand up dates and the, the, the, the tour posters of me are in drag and when I show up to the gig, I think that's shady. Right. If I'm going to do stand up dates out of drag, it needs to be communicated on the poster so people don't come to the show expecting something and I give them something else.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you have photo shoots of yourself out of drag?
Monet X Change
No, I need to have some out of drag.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I, when I go do stand up at someone else's show, I don't get a drag for it.
Monet X Change
Yeah, that's fair for me too. It depends. It depends for me.
Bob the Drag Queen
And if I thought about just I want to work some material out and do I want to get all up in full Yagu. My, my material is rarely ever about me being a drag. My material is not like I'm in a dress, you know what I mean? Yeah, I, I just like dressing up, you know?
Monet X Change
Yeah, yeah, I, I do like putting on a sickening wig and a sexy dress and telling jokes and also some
Bob the Drag Queen
of the other wigs you wear too. You love a sickening wig. And also some of your other wigs.
Monet X Change
I know you. I'm going to be first of all.
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. Do we need to roll the fucking footage of you laughing at your own wigs? Is that what we need to do today?
Monet X Change
Nigga? I could do. Can I. Should I go through your mother Instagram and pull up the footages about your
Bob the Drag Queen
ass, Bitch, do we need, do we need to roll the footage? Footages of you, the countless images of
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your ass walk around looking crazy, running around looking crazy as a motherfucker, like fucking Monique would say.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do we need to roll the footage of you?
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I know you ain't fucking talking, honey.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's just say that's all.
Monet X Change
I don't stop at the wigs. I have some other notes and.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, same mama.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Do we need to pull up footages real quick, girl?
Monet X Change
Bob, don't do it because up until
Bob the Drag Queen
right now you don't want to play this game.
Monet X Change
Oh, you don't want to play this game?
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what? Let's play the game. Let's use technology to play the game. Jacob, go to your motherfucking dm. We about to have a motherfucking blast with this basic old head, raggedy ass, crooked foot, big back, fucking sideways, raggedy old, fucking crooked nipple, bitch.
Monet X Change
Bob, you don't want to play this game.
Bob the Drag Queen
And you know what? I'm going to your own social media. We don't even need to scour the Internet, honey. We'll go to your page. You can be the source material. Jacob, can you put this image on the screen? I want to talk about Monet's dress. To talk about what? About Monat. What about this dress? Oh, my God. Honestly, I feel bad for the designers who are going to be catching strays in this because this.
Monet X Change
Where.
Jacob
Where are you sending it to me?
Bob the Drag Queen
To your Instagram. Oh, okay. This Monat. I'm so glad we're playing this game. This is one of my favorite games we play. Oh, Jesus. Yo, the source material is sourcing. I'm on your own page, bitch. I don't own page.
Monet X Change
I've screenshotted these images. Baby, you are the baby.
Bob the Drag Queen
You are the. Well, they justify right now. Justify quickly. Is it sickening?
Monet X Change
Okay. This dress was made by Markle Marco and the Wicked had an exact vision of what in mind they wanted for the. For the show the look to look like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Ask the question. Is it sickening what I think. Answer the question.
Monet X Change
Do you look sickening without the poppy thing?
Bob the Drag Queen
Answer the question. Yes, it's. Do you look sickening?
Monet X Change
It is sickening. I look great.
Bob the Drag Queen
How many times have you worn this look since then? With this whole. With the whole thing? I have it.
Monet X Change
Wicked kept it. So I don't have it. They.
Bob the Drag Queen
They kept it. They probably burned it.
Monet X Change
They kept the look.
Bob the Drag Queen
They probably saw the. They said, good news. They burned it at the beginning of Wicked and said, no one mourns the Wicked. No one mourns the Wicked. Bring up the next image.
Jacob
How do you think this look stacks against the other three looks in the photo?
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that probably. Oh, yes.
Monet X Change
Mine is whimsical.
Bob the Drag Queen
In order of looks and how they look, I would say Ariana's one, Cynthia's two, Monet's three. Jinx is four.
Monet X Change
Wow.
Jacob
Jinx is still the best dressed drag queen in this photo.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, Jinx is four.
Jacob
Oh, no, sorry. Monet is still the best. That's what I meant. Monet is still the best drag dressed drag queen in this film.
Bob the Drag Queen
But everything's drag. It's all dragon. Sorry, I had a drag queen too. It's. We're all born naked. Monet, justify this. Tell me about what's going on here.
Monet X Change
Oh, this is a. I love. I think I look very beautiful. I love this corset. I wear it with jeans. This is for. This is for when I do some. Some more like music R and B vibes. I love. I think I look beautiful.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, that I can tell because you posted it so obviously. And this is even paid you. You paid to have this photo taken.
Monet X Change
And I just. And for my images. I just went to Getty images of what I found. Okay, just want to be very clear.
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to be clear. I went to Monet, now I can go to Getty and find some image of Monet too.
Monet X Change
I'm just saying this is what I found. This is of you that are out there that I wanted to put other things.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, well, let me go to Getty too, since.
Monet X Change
Can you bring up my last image I sent you?
Jacob
Yeah, give me one second. Taking a moment to load.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I also want to make y'. All, make this clear to y'. All. Every image I put of Monet has been within the past year. Okay, I just want to make that clear. Oh, so now.
Monet X Change
Okay, so now. So now you. So now you put in qualifiers and shit on. To make sure, you know, this is very.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is. I'm just making sure that this is
Monet X Change
your Bob the Drag.
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to make sure, I want to make sure the fans know this is your most recent. Wait, please. I'm going to let you say your thing. I just want to know that the drag you're presenting. This is the best. This is the most evolved version of you. Okay? This is your best work.
Monet X Change
Okay, great. Super. Let's go into this image. Can you please explain why you would go on. On the show, Jake, any image, please. Can you just explain this look for us? Tell us.
Bob the Drag Queen
I would love to. I would love to. This was me going on your show and I wanted to meet your level of drag.
Monet X Change
Uh huh. Yeah, yeah, I wanted my level of drag.
Bob the Drag Queen
I said Monet wants jeans.
Monet X Change
Uh huh. And then she don't look like that in them jeans. But I'm curious about the jeans with the stoned shoes. That's an interesting choice. And tell us about the hair and makeup choices here. I'm curious.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yo.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you're right. You look sick.
Jacob
You do.
Bob the Drag Queen
Look, I wanted to meet your level of drag. Now what?
Monet X Change
Influenza.
Bob the Drag Queen
And bear in mind, I want to remind y', all, this photo is from. Now we could go into Monet's archives too.
Monet X Change
We could, we could go into the archives giving influenza.
Bob the Drag Queen
We could go into the archives and what's your next one. Let's see your next one and the one before that.
Monet X Change
Jacob. Now, this was.
Bob the Drag Queen
Tell us about this dress. First of all, this dress is stunning. I genuinely love this dress. Down. This hair. I love this hair. Excuse me. Down. My makeup could have been better, but this look. I stand. I wish I still knew where this dress was. I wish I could still find this dress to this day. I absolutely love this dress. I would. Where is this dress? Where is this fucking dress?
Monet X Change
I don't know, but we're happy it's gone.
Bob the Drag Queen
I miss this dress. Oh, this is a great dress.
Monet X Change
We're happy.
Bob the Drag Queen
This dress we made. Dallas, we're gonna round two this one. Cause this is a stunning. I don't know where this dress is.
Monet X Change
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're happy. We're so happy about that.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's all. That's all your footages.
Monet X Change
What are we doing? 2.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, I'm eating the girlies up on this day. Okay. First of all, this was after a long show. I had taken a. But this after a very long show. It was the end of the show. I had sweat off everything. I had taken off my jacket. I had taken off this. After working hard. She works hard for the money. Now, I want to be clear. Your images, you are fresh, and they were recent. You only have old images. All of Monet's pictures are from the past year. Oh, I look. This look is one of the most praised looks from the season. And this is undebatable. Me on Dungeons and Drag Queens. Season 2 is. Is literally the most praised look of the season.
Monet X Change
This is the most praised look of the season.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes.
Monet X Change
No, I think it's pre W versus Alaska. Was. Alaska got her tinge. Alaska was the best dress of the season. 100%. Are you joking?
Bob the Drag Queen
Alaska can eat my motherfucking foot and tell her I said it.
Monet X Change
Hey, but we all know June.
Bob the Drag Queen
Tell her I said said it.
Monet X Change
Juju be's wig was. Was. Was. Was the worst dress of the season.
Bob the Drag Queen
Juju's be wig was not. Now, y' all noticed in the last three episodes, the wig.
Monet X Change
The.
Bob the Drag Queen
The wig line was cut. She was like, y' all let me out there like that. I said, girl, I don't know what you do with your life. Oh, my God.
Monet X Change
I need to send her that TikTok that you told her to make. I still have it on my phone.
Bob the Drag Queen
GGB made a TikTok.
Monet X Change
Yeah, because remember, she was you. She was eating the crustable, and she had her.
Bob the Drag Queen
Her.
Monet X Change
Her. Her powder puff. And you were like, okay, Jujubee you're gonna pick up the powder puff and act like you, but then you're gonna eat it, remember?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. Did she ever. Oh, oh. Act like the crust was a powder puff and then take a bite from it. Yeah. Why didn't she post. You didn't send it to her?
Monet X Change
Yeah, I didn't send it to her. I just remembered it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's post it here. This is the video. Send it to the media chat.
Monet X Change
Oh, God. Sending the media in the middle of the podcast is crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, you never do it. I've noticed. You never do it.
Monet X Change
That is not true, Bob. You can't just say things like they're fact. It's not. You can't just. That's not true, Tony.
Bob the Drag Queen
That is a fact. You don't send media.
Monet X Change
That is not true.
Bob the Drag Queen
Or you will. You'll be like, jay, you have the picture somewhere.
Monet X Change
That's not true, Jay.
Bob the Drag Queen
How many times have you been told? Jay, put in a little note here. Editor's note. Jay, put in a little editor's note for the girls. Now, since we're using technology to drag each other in your most recent version of drag your most evolved state in your most evolved state.
Monet X Change
Uh huh.
Bob the Drag Queen
So let's talk about technology in general. Now, technology can be a tool for good. Technology can be a tool for bad. Technology has created hydrogen bombs. Technology has created. Well, the hydrogen bomb is actually bigger than the atom bomb.
Monet X Change
Is it?
Bob the Drag Queen
What's the biggest hydrogen bomb? The hydrogen bomb is way bigger than the atom bomb.
Monet X Change
Is the nuclear bomb the biggest one?
Bob the Drag Queen
They're all. They are all nuclear bombs. Oh, so a hydrogen bomb and the atom bomb, they're all nukes? So an atom bomb by today's scales would be laughable. An atom bomb by today's standard for what? For the nuclear warheads and weapons and ballistics that are in the world right now is nothing compared to what is sitting in the arsenals of these countries. What America has just sitting down by the bay, just hanging out would wipe entire, like three, four cities off the map.
Monet X Change
That's crazy. It's crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you look up the difference between like a hydrogen bomb mushroom cloud and the atom bomb mushroom cloud? No, I'm pretty sure they're all nuclear. I'm pretty sure they're all nukes, but they're just different kinds of nukes.
Monet X Change
I mean, the fact that we as human beings made this shit is so crazy. Now the only reason to do that is to wipe people off, like a country or a city off the face of the earth. Like there's no other reason to make something that is that devastating, which is.
Bob the Drag Queen
So the only reason to do it is to devastate a country and bring them to their knees. That's the only reason.
Monet X Change
That's the only reason to do it.
Bob the Drag Queen
And you have them. So these warheads, these nukes, they're essentially just threats, right? They're just like, we got this. And don't get crazy.
Monet X Change
Yeah. I mean, have you seen a p. This is. Sorry, it's the last hand.
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob, are you looking for that picture, by the way?
Jacob
Jacob? So the mushroom cloud would be 7 to 12 miles high. Hiroshima. Hiroshima's mushroom cloud was 7 miles high. And then muscle mushroom mushroom cloud would be 25 to 60 miles high. And the blast radiance would be for atomic bomb would be like 10 miles. Window shattered. 10 miles. A mile of total destruction and 2 to 3 miles of severe damage. And then a hydrogen bomb is 15 to 20 miles of total destruction, 30 miles of severe damage, and windows would be shattered up to 100 miles away.
Monet X Change
So if you drop it, if you were to drop an
Bob the Drag Queen
hydrogen bomb, a
Monet X Change
hydrogen bomb in, like, in Ozone park, it will go all the way to New Jersey.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, Monet. If you drop a hydro bomb in Manhattan, every part of New York City is destroyed.
Monet X Change
Yeah, every.
Bob the Drag Queen
All five boroughs. I mean, there's not much to say. No, no, no.
Monet X Change
Not Staten Island.
Bob the Drag Queen
No.
Monet X Change
Monet, did you hear what that is not Staten Island. From. From. From. From, like. Well, I guess we're in Manhattan, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
It's 25 miles. Manhattan's only 14 miles long. It's.
Monet X Change
But Salt Lake, Salt Lake City, Staten island is probably like another after the water. Staten island is probably like another, like 20 miles away. It's not. It's not that close.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think it's 20 miles away. How far is Staten island from Manhattan?
Jacob
Let me.
Monet X Change
I'm going to Google it real quick.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think it's 20 miles away. How. And what's the. What's the blast on a hydrogen bomb? And by the way, the hydrogen bomb is not even the biggest bomb anymore.
Monet X Change
There's another one.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's bigger ones. I can't remember the name of. There's way bigger ones. Way bigger.
Monet X Change
See, like Staten Island. Yeah. Staten island is about. Is the distance from Staten island to Manhattan is 19.4 miles. It's 20 miles. It's not that close.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, I thought it was way closer, but look at how big. Look at how big this thing is, Monet. This is out to Newark. This is the yellow.
Jacob
Is the fireball radius.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm colorblind, so I don't know. Which color is that?
Monet X Change
The yellow is that first ring? That first ring, yeah. Okay, so, Bob, the biggest one is the thermal radiation radius. Third degree burns extend through the layers of sk, Are often painless because they destroy the pain nerves.
Bob the Drag Queen
So y', all, there is. There is third degree burns. If you dropped a atom bomb in South. In the south part of Manhattan, all the way out to Newark, New Jersey, they are getting third degree burns all the way out to Newark, New. So that means people in Little Ferry, people in Wallington, people in Lindenhurst, people in Katy, East Orange, Bloomfield, Newark, New
Monet X Change
Jersey, parts of Elizabeth, Bayonne, Bayonne, New Jersey.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bayonne, New Jersey, Fort Lee. This blast is insane. And by the way, there are way bigger bombs than hydrogen bombs.
Monet X Change
But you know what? But Far Rockaway, y' all got it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Far Rockaway, y' all are going to
Monet X Change
be like, what happened?
Bob the Drag Queen
Something happened all over the world. Far Rockaway is about as far as you can be from Manhattan and still say you live in New York City. Far Rockaway is. It's in the name. It is far. Far Rockaway is far.
Monet X Change
Wow.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
The fact that we create anyway. Can we move on to another part of technology? This is upsetting to me. I hate that we create that. We want that we want this.
Bob the Drag Queen
And. And then we have the other side, which is creating things like limbs for people who don't have limbs. You know, prosthetics, you have medicine, you have penicillin, you have albuterol, you have stuff like that.
Monet X Change
But you also, I mean, because you get dark again. But you also, like when it comes to medicine, like the advancements in medicine, like back in the day, like.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I don't want to talk about it in the dark. Anyway.
Monet X Change
We have to consider, though, that a lot of these, especially for, like, people like obgyns, right? The reason why there were back then there was so many advancements in that type of medicine was because they were operating and experimenting on black women. They were like, literally would take their bodies and try shit out and cut them up and dissect them, people who were alive. So, like, a lot of the advancements back then were because they were literally experimenting on us like animals.
Bob the Drag Queen
So the question is, is all technology bad?
Monet X Change
I mean, at some point it has to be, right? I mean, I guess not all of it has to be at some point, but, like, what is the type of technology that probably was not bad at some point? Light. Light.
Bob the Drag Queen
No light can burn people. Light has been used to burn people, damage people's retinas. Torture is used for torture, for death. I'm sure light can kill someone. I'm sure.
Monet X Change
No, like electricity. Well, no, that's.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, that's lightning. Light comes from lightning. Light does come from electricity. If it's not contained.
Monet X Change
Yes. Well, electricity and light. Electricity is fucking everywhere. Electricity is computers, electricity. It's not light. Who was that? Oh, yeah, the Amish. The Amish. They don't use technology at all. That's fear.
Bob the Drag Queen
They use technology.
Monet X Change
What they use.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wheels are technology. Technology's not just electronics.
Monet X Change
Fire.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think fire is technology. You discover fire, you don't invent fire. You just find out about it. But you can. But you invent the will.
Monet X Change
The will is technology, and you can create fire. But that's not inventing it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Correct. That doesn't mean that you. Yeah, you can create a plant from a seed. You know, I don't think we can.
Monet X Change
I guess there's technology. You can create plants now, but.
Bob the Drag Queen
No, you can create a plant from a plant. Like, if you create a plant from another plant, then you created a plant.
Monet X Change
Are you gonna make subspecies of plants?
Bob the Drag Queen
No. I would say if you have an apple tree, and then you take an apple from the tree and you take a seed and you put it in the ground and it grows. Have you not created a tree?
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
So then we're not creating babies.
Monet X Change
No, that's different. Because we're creating them from our own bodies, though. You're not. If you.
Bob the Drag Queen
So you say the tree created a tree.
Monet X Change
Yeah, the triggered a tree. We didn't create it. We're just.
Bob the Drag Queen
But there are times where we do things to make the tree grow. Like there are thing where we take it and curate it and put it
Monet X Change
in a thing and mill it, incubated, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Reap it, sow it.
Monet X Change
But we're not creating it, though. We're just. I don't think that's. I don't think that's. I don't think that's categorized as creation. We're not creating a tree.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, what is. What does creation mean? I don't know. I don't really know what I mean. But we do make. But you say making. We are making babies.
Monet X Change
Yeah, we are. We are. We are creating life. Humans. Humans can create new life.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. So you think that you have to be part of the. So what constitutes creation then?
Monet X Change
I guess I mean to do your favorite thing. Should we define the word creation? Let's see what the word creation means for, like, what Is the definition of creation. Hold on.
Bob the Drag Queen
The act or process of bringing something into existence, bringing it into existence of the universe.
Monet X Change
Right. So trees are already existing. So we're not creating them?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I mean, people are. People already exist. We're not creating people. We didn't create the idea of people. Even. So, I mean, by this point, there have been 60 billion, 80 billion people on Earth. You didn't create the idea of a person, but you did create a person, though the person itself was created. So this, this specific tree was created. Now, did the people create it or did the plant create. Or was it. Or was it a. Was it a combination of the dew.
Monet X Change
Whoa, whoa. Have you seen those new, those new things? This new technology so that, you know, so someone who lives in an apartment in New York City who doesn't have a garden, they can't, like, you know, plant and things for a garden. They had these new vertical gardens in your home where you. It's like a vertical thing, and it has light around it, and it has these, like, different holes. And you can plant seeds in water. You can grow your own tomatoes, carrots, like, all types of vegetables and fruits in, like, in the confines of, like, your apartment. It's like, it's like a way to start creating and harvesting your own crops and stuff again, which, honestly, it's. There we go vertical.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've seen these. I've seen them online before. Yeah, yeah.
Monet X Change
But they're not just limited to hydroponic. They're not just limited to flowers. They, like, can make, like, fruit and vegetables and stuff like that, which kind of sucks, to be honest.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have no desire to grow my own food. You know, I will, I honestly, I will just eat the pesticides. Like, I, I don't, I don't care about eating pesticides. I just don't. But I think that I also don't care about eating microplastics, But I think
Monet X Change
there are minimal ways that it's affecting us that we don't even realize. We don't know. Right. Like, I think that, yes, like, you know, and bitch. Lord knows, you know, I put worse in my nose, in my mouth. Like, I, I, I understand, but I think there is something about knowing that, like, I'm eating my food a little cleaner. That that feels a little.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's something really funny about a girl who's like, I don't do microplastics, then just rolling your ass off with some booger sugar that someone made.
Monet X Change
I did not do Book of Sugar.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, sure. I've seen you do cocaine Mountains of it.
Monet X Change
I do not do cocaine.
Bob the Drag Queen
So you.
Monet X Change
If I did coke, I would not lie. I just don't.
Bob the Drag Queen
What you're saying is if I have a video of you doing cocaine, I can post it?
Monet X Change
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Go to my Twitter, everyone. Go. Jacob, do the AI thing real quick. Go to my Twitter, everyone. Jacob, is my mic off?
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. Speaking of technology, did you say.
Bob the Drag Queen
Let me mute myself. Click, click. Jacob, make a video of Monet doing cocaine on. On Open Chat GPT. Click, click. Unmute it.
Monet X Change
Have you seen. Literally, this happened this morning. I woke up. Have you seen this new Jacob, I don't know if you can look. It's called, like, over.
Jacob
Over.
Monet X Change
Over something. Over something. AI, this new shit that China. China dropped, like, yesterday. Have you seen it?
Bob the Drag Queen
No. Well, the real question is, have you seen. Okay,
Monet X Change
wait, I don't. Over Human.
Jacob
Can you tell me more about it?
Monet X Change
It's this new AI that China just dropped where they can.
Bob the Drag Queen
It.
Monet X Change
It is past deepfake. Like, it is not. It is, like, light years beyond deepfake. How they can take, like, from one static image or something they can create. It is so realistic. Cause, you know, deep fakes, yeah, they're real, but you look at it for a little too long, you're like, ah, there's something that is weird there. Yeah, but this is the next shit. It's kind of wild. And, like, so this person was, like. It was a carousel on Instagram and was showing the way. Like, it was six different things about, like, the different things it could do. And it's getting crazy out here, y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All.
Monet X Change
It's getting so hard. The lines of real and artificial are being so blurred. It's kind of. It. It's crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't think anyone's shocked that China is far ahead of us in technology. They are. They have and will almost always be leaps and years ahead of us when it comes to technology. We can't. We cannot compete where we don't compare.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I mean. I mean, the US is 29th in math, so. Were you. Were you good at math in school?
Bob the Drag Queen
I was fine. I wasn't terribly bad. I was. I was.
Jacob
Omni Human.
Monet X Change
Yes. I. I think so. It's. It's. It's this new feature they just rolled out onto ByteDance, their version of TikTok.
Jacob
Yeah, yeah, that's. It's Omni Human. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Omni Human.
Bob the Drag Queen
Some Omni Human footage, Jacob.
Monet X Change
Omni Human. Yeah. OMNI Human Version 1. This is. This is the first rollout of it. I'm like, bitch, this version One.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I haven't seen it yet, but I don't doubt that. It's probably quite remarkable.
Monet X Change
Yeah. So let me just define it. Omni Human 1 is an advanced AI framework by ByteDance that generates realistic human videos from a single image and motion signals, such as audio or video.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I saw one that. Oh, those. Not videos, Jacob.
Monet X Change
It has one.
Bob the Drag Queen
This one in the bottom right looks like it might be.
Monet X Change
No, it has one of Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, like, singing perfectly in Japanese and, like, conversing in Japanese and, like, you can tell.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's got to be illegal.
Monet X Change
Say it again.
Bob the Drag Queen
That's got to be illegal, is it? It's got to be.
Monet X Change
I don't think so. It's AI.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't take someone's likeness and just do what you want with it. Like, you can't even. You can't even fucking use. Hello. You can't even use the. The name Nike in a fucking movie without their permission.
Monet X Change
I mean, illegal here in America, but it's probably legal over there. They're like, okay, sure, it's illegal.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Monet X Change
I'm not going to do it and make it in America.
Bob the Drag Queen
Must be copyright laws in China. There must be, but I definitely.
Monet X Change
I don't know how international copyright laws and stuff exchange. Right. Like, things that are illegal here. Yeah, it has, like, Albert Einstein girl.
Bob the Drag Queen
So those are. Wait, are those. Are those. Wait, Jacob, what's happening? You're skipping through everything.
Monet X Change
It is a Taylor Swift perfectly singing Japanese.
Bob the Drag Queen
Can you play the audio, Jacob?
Jacob
Not in a way that you can hear it with this current setup,
Bob the Drag Queen
but. So what you're saying is that video of Taylor Swift didn't exist at all?
Monet X Change
No, it's completely fake. Completely. Completely generated fake.
Bob the Drag Queen
Interesting. So this is a video tail Swift that never existed, was never real.
Monet X Change
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
I will say, when you look at it, there's. If you look at it with too hard, it's like, she looks a little strange, you know? I don't know. But without that critical lens, I would never. I would just be like, it's a video Taylor Swift. Like, that's because I'm. I'm looking for the AI.
Monet X Change
Yeah. If I didn't tell you, just saw, you're like, oh, my God. Taylor Swift sings in Japanese. That's crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
Probably. Yeah, probably very much. That. Yes.
Monet X Change
That's the part about technology that's a little scary. And the whole debate is like, do we people? Like, we should not use AI? All this stuff. I'm like, y'. All. AI, first of all, has been here for a long Time. And there have been ways that we have been using AI. Siri is AI, all these things and like so like either we get on with it or it's going to happen without us and leave us behind.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I think people who are referring to not wanting to use AI are specifically. They're not referring to, you know, Siri and hey, Google and nevermind. They're not talking about those. I think talking about like the ones that use these, they use massive amounts of energy to generate photos. I think that's what they talk about.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but I mean, I mean I'm not, I don't know much about algebra, but I would assume that like is Siri and Z's like and the Google Pixel Gemini, like, are those. Oh God, no, no, no, not you, please.
Bob the Drag Queen
I look at it be like, no, girl, not you. Never mind.
Monet X Change
No, Bob, hold on. Stop, stop.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't stop. Play Bobby drag queen. Play Bobby drag queen.
Monet X Change
Hello again. I don't know much, but I'm sure those are using those consume energy as well. So it's like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, but I think. I don't know all the semantics behind it, but I think that the other ones use massive amounts of energy, these chain blocks to create this stuff. But also listen, you people in the world, I want to tell you something. I'm not telling you to go use AI, but I'll tell you is this. Do not be bamboozled into believing that you are the reason for pollution and energy overusage. It's not us. This is a lie we've been told. It is major corporations. People, when it comes to litter, private citizens account for like less than 2% of the world's pollution.
Monet X Change
Really?
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe Jacob, can you look up the actual number? These major corporations, they are polluting. They are massively polluting the world. And being like. But if you just use plastic paper straws, it'll be fixed. Meanwhile, these major companies are just dumping. Just gallons is. I don't know what's the word above gallons. But like pools, swimming pools and swimming pools of pollution into the ocean, into rivers, into streams. They are making plastic waste at insane, alarming numbers.
Monet X Change
And here. So the billions of people on this planet who are civilians, we account for less than 2% of the population.
Bob the Drag Queen
I can't remember the number, but it's an extremely low number compared to corporations. It's like an insanely low number compared to corporations.
Monet X Change
What's the number, Jacob?
Bob the Drag Queen
I think he's looking at it.
Jacob
I'm looking at a study right now from the University of Manchester and it Says major corporations are 71% of global greenhouse gas emissions and that's just greenhouse gas.
Bob the Drag Queen
So they're like, oh, you carpool. If you all carpool, we'll fix it. Meanwhile, these major corporations are kept almost, almost a quarter of. Of the pollution.
Monet X Change
You mean three quarters.
Bob the Drag Queen
Three quarters, yeah, sorry, three quarters of the pollution. But they're telling us if we 100
Jacob
companies are responsible for 71% of global gas house emissions.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wow. But they're telling us if we just carpool, it'll be fixed, right? Girl, no. Girl, no, it's not us. It has never been us. This is hello class solidarity, but it's not body.
Monet X Change
But we will never. Can I tell you my, the hope I have that we will ever beat these corporations when I tell you the margin of hope I have is next to nothing. These corporations will never. They have no incentive. They have no incentive. Besides companies like Ben and Jerk, who's not even a massive corporation, I mean they're a big company. They're not massive by any means.
Bob the Drag Queen
They're not Walmart. They're not, you know, I mean, well,
Monet X Change
they're not like, you know the amount of companies like Ben and Jerry's that are good natured and really have good intent for our planet. I want to find out this, the stats on that I would reckon probably like fucking less than fucking 1% of companies that are like, compared to like these like behemoths that don't care and will never care because they have no incentive to care about our planet. They have no incentive to be good people financially to their two to, to, to their employees. They don't care. There's no way to fix it. They don't fucking care.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's some, I was thinking to myself, like, I really want to boycott Walmart, but I want to actually go down there and be outside and be like, don't go in here, do not go in here. Like I want to get a group of us outside. I feel like we can station outside of several Walmarts and be like every, like for like, for like as long as it takes. Be like, don't go in here, we're not shopping in here. Do not. And then I also think about this. I have a friend who's like an extreme couponer. Like an insane extreme. Like they coupon like crazy. I go to their apartment, they'd be like 90 boxes here, they'd be like a penny each. Like crazy. Y' all coupon girls, you know how it is. And I was like, if we were able to do this and then somehow shift our shopping to that instead of going to these corporations or if you go to corporations, you're bleeding them, you're bleeding them through their own paperwork to get the cheapest version of whatever it is to bring them to their KN economically and also stand outside and protest them adamantly. Or even if we all, even if everyone goes for the entire month of February and just buys, spends crazy money at Walmart and then in March, take it all back, drop it all back off, because Walmart has a, it has an insane return policy. Imagine if we all spent 300 bucks at Walmart in a month and then the next month we taught, we brought all of it back, returned every single thing we ordered. Like, how would that affect their economy?
Monet X Change
Yeah, there was a plan like that I saw out, especially with the whole, when the whole Target news broke and how they were ending DEI initiatives even though it wasn't mandated by the government. They're a private company, they can do whatever they want. And how they were like, said they were gonna carry less, less, less products by black creators for February, for black issue month, even though they did all that. So some of people outline plans like that. But I just think that the convenience of stores like that is what gets people. And you know, I do admit, I know I come from a place of privilege and you know, I don't have four kids I'm worrying about, so I don't have to worry about, oh, going to the closest supermarket because I can't afford this childcare. I know I have a lot of privilege in that. So I, it's easier for me to say, okay, I'll just drive the 10 extra minutes to go this way and do this. I get all that. But I think for some people who don't, it's the most convenient thing. They don't have time to go down to the thing. Like convenience is a big part of it. And people just choose that over, you know, working strategically in a way that can really affect these companies.
Bob the Drag Queen
I hear you, but I think that the way that effective boycotting works is you don't just go like cold turkey, don't go to Target. It's like you target them, right? So you're like, for these three months, no Target, you can still go to Walmart, no Target for these three months. And then these next two months we're gonna do Walmart. After that we're do Coca Cola. After that we're bbd.
Jacob
Boop, boop, boop.
Bob the Drag Queen
So their numbers are doing this, doing this, doing this. I mean, the busboy Cost lasted 19 months.
Monet X Change
I was going to say that. And do you know, it was only 10% of black people did it.
Bob the Drag Queen
Imagine if 20% would have done it, it could have gotten done in half the time.
Monet X Change
It was very effective. But just the. I was listening to the podcast with Angela, the, the two lawyers and the seven. Anyway, and only, only 10% of black people participated in the Montgomery bus boycott. Only 10%.
Bob the Drag Queen
Which is probably why it lasts so long. But it was effective.
Monet X Change
It was what, a year, right? A year?
Bob the Drag Queen
19 months.
Monet X Change
19. It's a year, year and a half.
Bob the Drag Queen
So what I'm saying is if we were to able to. I mean, I don't go to Target, I don't go to Walmart very often. I go to Target more than I go to Walmart. I haven't been since I've been back. But there's also just not a Walmart near me. But there's a Walmart near my office, near my studio. Right. But I don't have to go to the fucking Walmart. You know what I mean? And, but I would rather go down there and tell people not to go in. But I want a group of us being like, do not go in here. Like, do not shop at Walmart. Like, if you care about this, this and that, do not shop at this Walmart. Like, they, like, you can't you. The only reason they care about Elon Musk, these people, is they give them money. They don't care about Elon Musk. They don't care. They don't care. They care about money.
Monet X Change
They don't care.
Bob the Drag Queen
They're not like, I just love Elon Musk. They probably don't. They probably don't even love white supremacy. They just love money.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, and when it was profitable to uplift black shit, they loved black people. And when it wasn't, they stopped. They only love money.
Monet X Change
So fucked. So fucked.
Bob the Drag Queen
So, I mean, I'm not that kind of community leader. I'm not a community leader at all. I'm just a loudmouth. But I've seen a lot of stuff online and I want to be able to go down to these Walmarts and be like, I want to get a. I would love to be either a part of a group or get a group together that's like, would dedicate. Like, you have to schedule it so that you can have like at least 10 to 20 people every single day outside this Walmart during all working hours being like, do not shop in here. Do not shop in here. This is why you should not shop in here. And then also people dedicating themselves to not shopping there. And I think there's enough of us nationwide to hit up every Walmart.
Monet X Change
I really do in theory, but I mean, I've never been a big Walmart shopper, but I know Walmart, especially in the south, you know what I mean? Think about like Jackson and parts of Georgia and stuff like that.
Bob the Drag Queen
Like that where it has two Walmarts in it.
Monet X Change
It's right, and it's probably like the biggest super supermarket, super center place you have for miles, right?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, there actually might be three by now. Yeah, go ahead.
Monet X Change
So like they've made it, they made it such, such a commodity that you, like, it's kind of hard, like it's really hard not to shop at these places. And they, and that's, and that's, and that's by design. So you, so you become dependent and reliant on your neighborhood Walmart, you're like, well, if, well, if I don't get my chicken from there, they don't have butcher shops, they don't have these things that you need. If I don't get my meat from Walmart, where the fuck am I going to get it?
Bob the Drag Queen
To be fair, there are still butcher shops.
Monet X Change
I mean, not as, let me speak for Brooklyn down my street on Avenue D. We used to have, growing up, there were four different butcher shops on Avenue D. Now all are gone because they opened up a Target on the junction. So everyone just goes to Target, which causes the local butcher shops and canicerias and all those things to close down because now there's a Walmart. I mean, there's a Target that carries all that for cheaper.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it's, it's dicey.
Monet X Change
They have a Monopoly girl. They, they. Monopoly, which is another thing, like fuck that game. Fuck Monopoly. The fact that monopolies are Monopoly was
Bob the Drag Queen
meant to expose how evil it was.
Monet X Change
I mean, did it, did it expose how evil it was or, or taught people like, oh, this is what I need to do to be successful.
Bob the Drag Queen
When you, your cousin and she, and she won your property, did you feel good about her?
Monet X Change
No. But then I was like, oh, then, then. But I was like, oh, I need to do that to her so I can win it. Life.
Bob the Drag Queen
But then, but how did that work? Did it work out for you or did she just crush you because she, because at some point she's already far ahead of you. That's the thing about Monopoly will teach you. There's a point where you are so far behind you cannot catch up you cannot catch up.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why do y' all think folks get so mad during monopolies? Monopoly will get people fired up. Monopoly? Uno. People get crazy during these games.
Monet X Change
And what is. And what is? What is? What is. What is Uno supposed to be teaching us?
Bob the Drag Queen
No. No takebacks. No, no, no reverses.
Monet X Change
And I was saying, Uno's about anarchy. Uno teaches you anarch. Anarchy. Uno is like, I. You have to do whatever you can. You got to be fascinated to. To. To. To just to set up.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't you have, like, a weird name for Uno? It's like, you call, like, the black version Uno.
Monet X Change
Yeah, we call it Porch.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's just. I feel like it's not. We just call it Udo. It's just Udo.
Monet X Change
Okay? I don't. I don't tell you what. Your little friends down. Down in lagrange, and.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, you do.
Monet X Change
You.
Bob the Drag Queen
You constantly do that. Actually, it's like your favorite thing to do. That must be a South thing. That was like. It's like, literally, you get. You get hard. Try to say what we do in the south, okay?
Monet X Change
But I'm not telling you what to call it, okay? You get.
Bob the Drag Queen
You get bricked up.
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. You have Andy's name bricks up now. I literally said to him, did I say bricks up to me?
Bob the Drag Queen
You're full bricked, bro.
Monet X Change
So, yeah, it's called Porridge. And what we do is like, you have.
Bob the Drag Queen
You didn't say you can't call it. I'm just saying in the south, we just call it.
Jacob
It's just.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's still Uno.
Monet X Change
And the game of the rules is Uno rules. Except you add a draw two for everything. Like, if you hesitate, if you ask, whose turn is it? If you play the wrong card, you are drawing two as a penalty. So you can pay the fuck attention. And Bob don't like it because Bob don't pay attention. He's always doing this.
Jacob
Yes.
Monet X Change
So he misses.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've never said I don't like it. I've never said I don't like it. Also, I'm not the one getting hit with pills. I pay attention. I'm not like, ooh. I'm not. I'm not a space case. I'm not like, la, la, la. Ooh, my phone. Is that a shiny. Who are you describing?
Monet X Change
You, squirrel.
Bob the Drag Queen
Who are you describing?
Monet X Change
You.
Bob the Drag Queen
You. You was talking about one of your other little friends. Maybe Kamek could be like that.
Monet X Change
Kamek is not like that.
Jacob
I have a question.
Monet X Change
Yes, Jacob?
Jacob
What is the difference between a porch, a deck, and a Patio.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. And a balcony.
Monet X Change
Okay. A porch is in the front.
Bob the Drag Queen
You do not have a porch in
Monet X Change
the back of your back of your house.
Bob the Drag Queen
Now I wanna do my verse and a deck, a deck is on the back of your house. But typically speaking, a deck is on a split level thing. So a deck would be up. So not always, but I feel like a, like this is like a back porch. A deck is like a deck like juts out into the yard. Kind of like a back porch could be like level with the house. But a deck, I think has to like jut out into the backyard a little bit.
Monet X Change
I, I, I used to think so too, until, you know, around my pool I have that wood decking. They call it a deck, but I would agree.
Jacob
Jut out.
Monet X Change
No, it's just a decking around my pool. But I would not call the deck. That's what people, that's what the contractor and the designer and stuff was saying. So I was like, I guess that's a deck. But I agree. Before I was the same mindset of you. But it's definitely in the back. You don't have a, a. I guess you can have a deck in the front.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I, I guess a patio would be in a, in an apartment. No, like, I feel like a patio is like smaller. I have a patio.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you have a patio. But I think a patio kit, it's not limited to an apartment. I think I, I think in a, I think on a patio is an enclosed place and an enclosed space attached to your home. But it doesn't have to be an apartment.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't get off a patio. There's only one way. There's, you can only get into the house and like, but you can't go off the patio and go, and go into the world. The patio. You go to the patio, then you turn right back around. You go back into the home. I would say that.
Monet X Change
So what's the difference between a patio and a balcony?
Bob the Drag Queen
I feel like balconies are really high. The height makes the difference. Like, it's at least the second floor. You can't have a balcony on the first floor. There's no first floor. Balconies are not a thing.
Monet X Change
You must. Yes, yes. You must have been high when you fucking thought about that shit. No.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, they tell us there was a patio and a balcony.
Monet X Change
I think a balcony is space. Like you think of like Juliet is in a balcony. Because it is a thing, but there's not a lot of space. I think the space denotes a balcony.
Bob the Drag Queen
So you think balconies are smaller than patios.
Monet X Change
Yeah, a balcony is definitely smaller than. Well, that's not true. In St. Lucia, we had a big balcony off my grandmother's house, but we could.
Bob the Drag Queen
Or did you have a balcony?
Monet X Change
It definitely wasn't a patio.
Bob the Drag Queen
Shocker. Monet had a giant balcony off of one of her family's palatial estates. How big was it? Who shot.
Monet X Change
We talking?
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you put a car on it?
Monet X Change
I mean, not with the width, but the length. You could put several cars.
Bob the Drag Queen
Several.
Monet X Change
So my grandmother had a house. She had a little Phoenix looked at
Bob the Drag Queen
me and said, brokey.
Monet X Change
Where it was. It was like a first level. It was a. It was a first level thing where she had. She had tenants. A second level thing. She had tenants, and she lived on the third floor.
Bob the Drag Queen
Tenants.
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. Shut the fuck up. You are so annoying. Put your hands down. Off of your face, y'.
Bob the Drag Queen
All. Landlord. Y'. All.
Monet X Change
We were. We were at. We. And I did the Reach LA Gala, and I had this. I had this thumb ring that I used to. That I used to wear on my. On my. I used to wear my little thumb ring, but it got. Which is the biggest finger on my hand, and it got too big, so I couldn't wear it for the thing. And Bob was like, I want to try when I tell y', all. Bob put that ring on his middle finger, and it would not come off. The ring was. So it was locked on his finger. If I tried to shake it off, that ring was like, I ain't going nowhere.
Bob the Drag Queen
What do you have? What do you have under your wrist?
Jacob
She's trying to change the subject about how our family were landlords.
Bob the Drag Queen
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want us to protest because, you know, we're processing your family. And then.
Monet X Change
Oh, that's what I was saying. So a balcony on the third floor. It wrapped around.
Bob the Drag Queen
Third floor.
Monet X Change
It wrapped around.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wrapped. Fucking throne. This is crazy.
Monet X Change
I want to fight you. You're so annoying.
Bob the Drag Queen
Don't fight me, honey. You're fighting the poor. That's who you fight.
Monet X Change
Anyway, Jacob, can you please look up
Bob the Drag Queen
the definition so we can finish this episode?
Jacob
Yeah. So generally, it's about where they are and then structural support. So balconies are on upper floors, but they also are supported by the building. Like, they come out.
Bob the Drag Queen
I said height. Well, they laughed at me.
Jacob
And then patios generally are on the ground, and they're built out of the ground, and they're supported by beams coming out of the ground.
Bob the Drag Queen
So we don't have a patio. We actually have a Balcony.
Jacob
Yes, we have a balcony.
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. A deck.
Jacob
Oh, a deck is specifically in the backyard, usually uncovered.
Monet X Change
Oh, it's a porch in a porch.
Jacob
And a porch is only in the front yard. And a porch is usually uncovered.
Monet X Change
We nailed porch, and we nailed deck,
Bob the Drag Queen
and I also have a balcony. When I said height, and you laughed
Monet X Change
at me, but you didn't do the other things. You didn't say.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, it's height. It has to be height.
Monet X Change
You were like, height. What was the other thing that Jacob said? Y', all, this is very vibe.
Bob the Drag Queen
Bobblehair.
Monet X Change
Bobblehair.
Bob the Drag Queen
One thing for his thing. What did you give her? Balcony. What did you give her?
Jacob
Balcony? It's tight. And specifically where it's built out of. It's if it's built out of the actual building or built out of the ground.
Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you.
Monet X Change
I said that. This is like you and fucking the word lugubrious on the most recent episode,
Bob the Drag Queen
but you use one word in the
Monet X Change
definition and then ignore everything else. People are like, did Bob read the definition?
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's do a whole clip of you misusing words. It'll be an episode. Super cut. On that note, thank you for coming on my show.
Monet X Change
Wait, before we leave, do you want to tell everyone where you got the little outfit you have on?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I have a sandwich to eat.
Monet X Change
Goodbye.
Date: April 14, 2025
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen
In this riotously candid and fiercely funny episode, Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen take on the theme of technology, weaving it through conversations about drag evolution, jealousy, AI deepfakes, nuclear bombs, and even the difference between porches, decks, patios, and balconies. With their signature banter and real-life insights, the duo explores both the powerful possibilities and frightening consequences of technological advancement, all while roasting each other's wigs and old social media photos.
The transformation of drag artistry:
Bob brings up the trend of performers moving toward “gender fucky” or more ambiguous, less traditionally feminine presentations of drag, using Rose and Aja as anchors for the discussion.
Persona vs. Identity in Drag:
Both discuss whether drag is always a persona or an authentic identity, and how evolving as an artist is often misunderstood by the public.
Honest take on professional envy:
Both hosts dissect the reality of jealousy among drag artists, distinguishing between resentful jealousy and good-natured competitiveness.
Comparisons with peer successes:
Trixie Mattel’s makeup company is referenced as an example of professional rivalry.
On jealousy and drag success:
On nuclear bombs:
On evolving as an artist:
On AI deepfakes:
On individual vs. corporate pollution:
On community action:
On the balcony/patio debate:
The episode closes with the two queens getting lost in the weeds—playfully arguing about home architecture terms, landlord jokes, and misused vocabulary. The warmth and volatility of their dynamic makes even the most technical segments sparkle with personality.
For listeners who missed this one:
Bob and Monét use fierce wit to weigh the human costs and creative riches of technology, never letting go of their humor or their drag queen lens. Whether deciphering AI threats or reliving their own drag wardrobe misadventures, their chemistry—and commitment to serving real talk—remains undefeated.
Memorable closing: