The One About Thanksgiving Food

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One About Thanksgiving Food"

Date: November 27, 2024
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

In this lively and laughter-filled episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change dig into all things Thanksgiving food. Their trademark banter covers favorite and least favorite holiday dishes, strong opinions about traditional and "impostor" foods, and how personal and cultural backgrounds shape their Thanksgiving tables. Along the way, they sprinkle in pop culture, political asides, juicy family gossip, and plenty of not-so-sibling rivalry—making this an episode for anyone who’s ever negotiated the politics of a potluck or had feelings about cranberry sauce.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Thanksgiving Table Talk: What Stays, What Goes

• Host Food Hot Takes

  • Both hosts share foods they love to hate and hate to love at Thanksgiving.
  • Monét doesn’t mess with lemony/limey desserts: “I fucking hate lemony limey desserts. I don't like a lemon tart. I don't like a key lime pie. I hate that taste. You like that?” (21:47)
  • Bob’s key lime pie defense: “I love key lime pie. The original key lime pie did not taste like what you get at restaurants… more gritty.” (21:58)

• Unpopular Opinions

  • Shellfish is out for both, though Monét allows for shrimp with caveats. (28:02)
  • Olives, mushrooms, octopus, squid—no thank you! (“Chocolate-covered bananas are demonic.” – Monét, 22:27)
  • Marshmallows: Monét can't stand them; Bob’s in favor, especially when toasted for s’mores. (26:04–26:21)
  • Tomatoes—diced only: “I like tomatoes when they are diced, not sliced. I do not like slices of tomato under any circumstances.” – Bob (28:58)

• Thanksgiving Mac and Cheese Showdown

  • Spirited debate over what counts as “real” macaroni.
  • “When it’s not macaroni—when it’s like, penne or fucking tortellini, I’m like, this isn’t macaroni and cheese.” – Bob (42:21)
  • Bob asserts he could out-cook Monét on mac and cheese, despite never having made it before. Smack talk ensues, wagers are attempted.
    • “And you think you can make a better macaroni cheese than me without—You don’t even cook.” – Monét (45:26)
    • “But I think I can make a better Mac and cheese. I saw this recipe online.” – Bob (45:35)

• Cornbread Wars

  • “Some of y’all cornbread is not good. Just give me Jiffy.” – Bob (50:05)
  • Bob prefers cornbread muffins over triangles and likes it sweet. Monét is neutral but didn't grow up with cornbread. (51:07)

• Collard Greens Debate

  • Neither host is a fan; Monét finds them texturally unappealing (“It's just, like, mushy together…” – 52:38), while Bob concedes his family apparently makes great ones but he doesn't like them. (52:54)

• Turkey Truths

  • Both hosts claim turkey is mid-tier meat at best.
    • “We need to stop acting like turkey meat is great. The truth is it's not.” – Monét (54:21)
    • “Chicken meat is not great… you're eating chicken for the taste of what they put on it… turkey is similar to that, but drier and thicker.” – Bob (54:29, 55:02)

Culinary Traditions & Family Culture

• Thanksgiving varies widely between Black, white, and other cultural households.
  • The hosts riff on the experience of going to “white Thanksgiving” vs. their own family traditions. (33:36–34:18)
  • Monét confirms macaroni and cheese as a Thanksgiving staple in Black culture.
• Potato, gravy, sliders, and stuffing are dissected—including contentious takes on White Castle stuffing.
  • “People are like, why are white people making White Castle stuffing?… I could see this actually being tasty.” – Bob (47:33)

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Mac & Cheese:
  • “If you can’t stick a feather in your hat and call it that, then it’s not macaroni.” – Bob (42:39)
  • “Diabolical. You should be executed.” – Monét on using linguine in mac and cheese (42:53)
• Cultural Observations:
  • “I just know for me, I could not live in a town where I felt threatened to be myself… every day feels like you're waking up in hell.” – Monét (14:44)
  • “There is a lot of that, but there is genuinely some support… it's just not as overwhelming.” – Bob on queer life in small towns (18:35)
• Laugh-Out-Loud Drag Banter
  • “Why were you Puerto Rican? Why was you Puerto Rican?” – Bob (38:39)
  • “You fully was Puerto Rican.” – Bob, after Monét's “lady voice” (38:55)
• On S’mores:
  • “No, graham cracker, chocolate bar, marshmallow, chocolate bar, graham cracker.” – Bob (26:35)

Political & Social Zingers

• Spirited discussion of Trump’s cabinet picks, lack of POC representation, and the McMahon wrestling dynasty rumors. (07:41–13:41)
• Addressing red and blue state queer culture, and California potentially becoming a sanctuary for the LGBTQ+ community. (13:41–15:10)
• “We can't just have every liberal person flee these towns because then we will never get our votes back.” – Bob (14:18)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Quote | Description | |-----------|---------------|-------------| | 01:21 | “On this week's episode, we talk about foods we don't like…” | Episode theme intro | | 21:47 | Monét: “I fucking hate lemony limey desserts…” | Hot takes on desserts | | 26:04 | Marshmallow debate | S’mores segment begins | | 28:02 | Shellfish chat | Why Monét & Bob don’t eat shellfish | | 30:18 | Sushi talk | Preferences and limits on sushi types | | 33:05 | Thanksgiving in Black and Italian homes | Commentary on cultural differences | | 42:21 | Mac n cheese debate | Pasta type policing | | 50:04 | Cornbread, Jiffy preference | Bob’s Jiffy rant | | 52:11 | Collard greens hate | Monét: “I don’t like collard greens.” | | 54:21 | Turkey is overrated | Monét’s hot take | | 56:00 | Favorite Thanksgiving memories | Thanksgiving at Bob’s house, Quiplash game | | 58:31 | Thanksgiving wishes | Sign-off, well wishes for the holiday |

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Final Thoughts

Throughout the episode, Bob and Monét balance hilarious culinary snobbery with warmth, insight into food and family traditions, and their signature sibling-style bickering. They make a meal (literally and metaphorically) out of what divides and unites us at the holiday table.

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For Further Laughs

• Look up “Diva Boots” on TikTok for the reference Bob makes (40:51)
• If you want to see if Bob & Monét ever settle the mac and cheese rivalry, tune in for updates—or harass them on social!

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Perfect for:
Anyone tired of polite Thanksgiving conversations and ready for taboo food takes, or who wants to laugh over who in the friend group is about to ruin the potluck.

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Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen

[Monet X Change]

and I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is sibling rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

On this week's episode, we talk about foods we don't like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We talk about Thanksgiving.

[Monet X Change]

And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why were you Puerto Rican? Why was you pue Rican? And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

I don't understand why that is a thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How are you doing? I'm well, I've had a pretty relaxing day. I woke up and I cleaned my balcony, laundered the, the seat covers on the balcony furniture. And then I. We had a chat with someone I'm hiring on the tour. And then I went droning and then I came back and then I went to Target to buy some things because I was like, oh, this cleaning would have been easier if I had certain items. Maybe next time I'll have these items. Like, I didn't have a mop bucket because I have a. I have a swiffer, like a wet swiffer mop. So I've never actually had to.

[Monet X Change]

I think the technical term is a swiffer of wet jet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A Swiffer wet jet. So I was like, I never had to like dunk anything, but I was like, oh. But we kept like splashing water on the, on the balcony, trying to get the, like the gunk up.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you and Jacob did it together?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, me and Cameo did it.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And, and we kept having to like, fill up like this. A pot. Like a literal. A pot that we cook in. Just running water from the sink to the porch and pouring it on the floor. And then I had two trash cans that I was going from the tub to the balcony with.

[Monet X Change]

I get so weird out. Weirded out about stuff like that. Like, when I do things, like, each thing has its own utility. Like, for example, when Andy and I first met, he would, like, scrape. Like, he had. If. If potato had wet food. He would, like, use, like, our. Our. Our regular dining spoons. I'm like, no, we. I had. At that point, I had a spoon I use only for Colleen stuff. It was like a. I call it, like, the pet spoon. Like, for me, everything has a thing. And, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You watching, huh? Did you wash the pet spoon?

[Commercial Voice]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

You watch it. I know that you're just washing it, but for me, I'm like, no, Colleen cannot use the human spoons. She uses the pet spoon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't have any pets here. And it was literally just transporting water from the sink. From the sink.

[Monet X Change]

I get it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wasn't dunking the broom in the.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was just pouring water on the ground.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, okay. I thought you were using it to, like, wring out the mop and, like, blah, blah, blah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In my mind, there is no mop. Again, there's a wet jet. So we. So the wet. I wouldn't. You wouldn't want to clean a porch with a wet jet. Like, this is, like.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, no way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is, like, like, dirt from the universe and the earth outside, like, really caked on there. So you. I don't think a wet jet could get it. So we were actually using the broom to, like, and get into the little cracks and crevices and then, like, pouring water on top of it, like, hot water and, like, scrubbing it up.

[Monet X Change]

So when you put all that water in there, do you. Did you. Obviously, your. Your porch has drainage. Just goes. Did your drainage go down the side of the building? I never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It goes into a gutter, and the gutter goes down the thing and goes into the. To the street.

[Monet X Change]

Because oftentimes you see in places like St. Lucia, like people. And sometimes in, like, in the. More like in condominiums, like, yeah. They would just have little holes at the bottom of the thing. The water. It's, like, when. Like. Because obviously it's an island, it rains there often. Like, water. When there's a lot of water, it kind of just goes to, like, the little hole, but not into, like, a gutter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They also have this in houses, too. Any house that has a balcony or a roof, there's gutters. So if you go to your roof and clean your roof, you don't just throw the water.

[Monet X Change]

I know the rules. But like a balcony.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also balconies. And balconies and houses also. Otherwise you just have pools of water on your balcony. Also porches. Porches have these as well.

[Monet X Change]

No, I know. I know what gutters are. Just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to think they're not just for condos.

[Monet X Change]

When I had my old apart, I guess I never had an apartment with a gutter. I never had an apartment with a balcony. I was never that lucky in New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I was at your apartment here in LA with a balcony.

[Monet X Change]

Right. But I don't think I had a gutter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, because you had. It was like it just went off

[Monet X Change]

the side of the building.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you had a gutter, though. There was a gutter at the edge of the. Otherwise it would drip into the people's home downstairs. So there was a gutter?

[Monet X Change]

I don't think so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You could always drive by and check.

[Monet X Change]

I could. I could. And now I don't live there anymore. I don't even care. I'd be like, hey, guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause most of these places have gutters. Otherwise the stuff would be dripping from your place to the people's place downstairs.

[Monet X Change]

No, I get it. I just noticed some places that just, like it's in similar shape, little drain, and the water just kind of goes to the thing that goes on the side of the building. Like, if it was to rain, like the water just goes down the side of the building.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, if it was raining, well, that would erode the building.

[Monet X Change]

Or.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or it would. You would start to see like a wet, like mild duty stains coming from the. From the drains.

[Monet X Change]

I think you'd often see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I've never been to St. Lucia, but in.

[Monet X Change]

You were invited last time I went.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do what?

[Monet X Change]

You were invited last time I went.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean when I was on the Madonna tour?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. You're still invited. You just want to know you were invited.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's very convenient. All I had to do is just cancel my tour and I could have. And I too, could have gone to St. Lucia. You could, but. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Were you Madonna? No, you weren't. You went on Madonna in September.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In September, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

You went on Madonna in September.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was on tour still, though, on

[Monet X Change]

September 1st this year. September 1st. You were not. You were not on tour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I've done several tours this year, but I can tell you, because I I have my whole life on account. I can tell you exactly where I was September 1st. Here we go. September 1st. I was. September 1st.

[Monet X Change]

Do you remember the first night of September?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was in Atlanta.

[Monet X Change]

There you have it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's fine. I was in Memphis. Oh. I was at my family reunion.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob and I were flying. Jacob and I were flying back from. Jacob and I were flying back. Jacob came in and I were flying back from the family reunion in.

[Monet X Change]

What about your family?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you were invited to. Actually.

[Monet X Change]

What about your family in St. Lucia?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The one that you were invited to. That one.

[Monet X Change]

What about your family in St. Lucia?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I see you chose the family that meant the most to you.

[Monet X Change]

Damn right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. Aunt Hazel is an avid listener of our podcast. And Aunt Hazel, now you know where you stand with. With Monet X Change, even though you rooted for her.

[Monet X Change]

I have a question.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Since you're a big WWF girly, are you excited that Cindy. Cindy McMahon is going to be the. The Cindy McMahon is her name Cindy? Hold on, you mean Stephanie McMahon, who's. Who used to be. Who was Vince McMahon's ex. Wife or whatever?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Stephanie. I don't know. Stephanie McMahon is his daughter.

[Monet X Change]

No, his wife. Oh, I don't remember the. One of the McMahons. She's going to be this. The new Secretary of education or whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The McMahons are not really well regarded in the world of wrestling. I mean, to some people they are, but the McMahons, they even wrote themselves as heels on their. On their own show.

[Monet X Change]

As heels.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Heels. Like bad guys.

[Monet X Change]

I never heard that term as a heel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A heel is like a bad guy. So. No, I mean, but I was never a fan of Vince, Shane, Stephanie. And I guess Cindy, let me.

[Monet X Change]

Vince McMan wife.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She can't be a particularly young woman. Linda.

[Monet X Change]

Linda McMahon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How old is this woman?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, they're still married.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How old is she?

[Monet X Change]

76 years old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oof.

[Monet X Change]

They're still married.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Didn't. Didn't.

[Monet X Change]

Vince McMahon had, like, a whole, like, facelift. I remember he, like, he. I remember seeing pictures of him like, oh, wow, he got wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What happened to Betsy DeVos?

[Monet X Change]

I think she was ousted with the Biden administration.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, I mean, you know, I don't think Trump is rehiring a single person from his former cabinet.

[Monet X Change]

None of them. None of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, he was like, they're all bad. Which is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

And what's crazier is all of the. All of the black people and people of color that were stumping for Trump be like, he's going to do this, but Not a single person in that cabinet is a person of color. Not a single person. What's up?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tulsi and Vivek Wamaswami.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think. I don't think Vivek is part of his. I don't think he's part of his cabinet at all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think he is, Jake, when you look that up. I think Vivek was offered her position. Betsy DeVos quit after the insurrection on January 6th.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow, she stands for something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, she was also the lady who had never had kids in public school and was like, I'm gonna fix education.

[Monet X Change]

Well, apparently. Oh, no, what's his name? Ben Carson. No, this might be the old. This is the old cabinet, but she also apparently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you look up if Vivek has a position?

[Monet X Change]

Well, he doesn't have a position yet. These are people he's nominating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, I understand. Yeah. If Vivek has been nominated for a position in something.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but what I was gonna say. Oh, yeah. And people like, oh, well, at least Linda McMahon, she has a degree, blah, blah, blah. And found out. She lied. She lied about the degree. She did not get this degree in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

whatever he's in that weird thing with Elon Musk that's named Doge. Oh, yeah, the Department of Government Insight or, like, efficiency. The Department of Government Efficiency. The new. The new department that they're starting.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also, I thought Trump was trying to shut down the Department of Education, so he's put Linda McMann from. Until he shuts it down.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think it was the department. It's something in the. Something with schooling or whatever. And long story short, but she lied about getting this degree. She got a degree in, like, French, where she said, oh, I got it in higher education in something. But it was not an education. It wasn't, like, French language.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She studied French.

[Monet X Change]

So the lies are already starting anyway. We can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, there are also lots of criminals in there, too. A lot of criminals.

[Monet X Change]

A lot of criminals.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or alleged criminals.

[Monet X Change]

But, I mean, it comes from the head, right? The head man in charge is a convicted felon, a sexual abuser.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

34 times, honey.

[Monet X Change]

34 times. 34 counts of a sexual predator. Like, he. So, like, what do you expect? The people around him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, to be clear, it's not 34 counts of sexual predation. No, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

These are separate things. These are separate. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He got found civilly liable for sexual assault and 34 felony counts for misappropriating campaign funds and for hiding the. And for miss filing or something with government paperwork and also loss. I lost a lot of lawsuits. Like a lot of lost or settled on a couple of fraud lawsuits and lost a couple of fraud lawsuits. And the only reason he was not found guilty for, for criminal charges on his sexual assault charges is because the sexual limitation had gone away. Because in New York City there's a statute of limitation on sexual assault. Which is kind of why.

[Monet X Change]

I don't understand why that is a thing. I don't understand why we. It's a new law and they, I don't. Like, they should not. It should not. Did, did that law get burned? No. The statute for limitations has been sitting around for a while.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, like, no, the statute of limitations on sexual assault in New York is new.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but I mean like in general there shouldn't be, if anyone commits a crime, there shouldn't be no statute that, oh, it doesn't matter anymore because enough time has passed. Like, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I disagree. There are some laws where the statute of limitation, I think it makes sense. Like if you have a parking ticket five, seven years ago, then there should

[Monet X Change]

be no, well, felonious things. Right? Like things like I also feel like

[Bob the Drag Queen]

certain amounts of theft, like theft under a certain amount. Like if you steal a TV, you shouldn't be able to get me 20 years later for stealing a TV from Walmart. I don't personally think so.

[Monet X Change]

I disagree. Like you stole it. Like that doesn't. If you don't do the restitution or whatever it is to make it up, like you still did the crime. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're so hard on crime.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's just that because like when I think about sexual crime, when I think about like sexual assault, I'm like, if someone raped someone. Well, I agree with years ago and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

limitations on murder and sexual assault on minors in some states don't have. Some states I don't believe have statute limitations on sexual assault, but New York does.

[Monet X Change]

And also we should, we should say in the wake of everything happening and all going on, California is making steps to be a sanctuary city for queer people in this, in whatever this next four years might be if you need gender affirming care or what Sanctuary state. Say it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said California is a sanctuary city.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, state, sorry. Yeah, for all that stuff. So. And anyone who's living in a city that you feel like you will be targeted or you won't be able to get the things you need just know in case you didn't see it. I don't know. But California is making steps to be a sanctuary state for queer people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, we can't just have every liberal person flee these towns because then we will never get our votes back. If all the liberals, if all the libs, if they own the libs, and they all move to California, New York and Michigan. Not Michigan, Minnesota, then we will never get the presidency back.

[Monet X Change]

I agree, but I don't live in those states. I can't imagine. I know I could not live in a state that was that hard on queer identity. I could not live there. So I can't speak to people who live there and have to deal with that every day and live in a small red town that you literally hate your existence because every day feels like you're waking up in hell. I can't imagine what that would be like. And I know I could literally never. I could never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have lived in a few states that are like that. I lived in Georgia, I lived in Alabama, and I lived in Mississippi, and it wasn't. I mean, I moved, but I didn't necessarily move because I'm queer. I moved because of the career that I wanted to have and because I wanted to move to New York City and I wanted to, you know, yada, yada, yada. But I think that there are lots of people who also have a sense of ownership for where they live. In fact, let's talk more about it when I get back. When we get back.

[Monet X Change]

Not when you. When we get back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if you're coming back.

[Monet X Change]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think that a lot of people have a sense of ownership for, like, where they live and sense of pride and they have property. And some people just can't get up and move. And some people are like, I don't want to move. And that's my feeling about all of us. I'm out. They're going to escape the U.S. i'm not leaving. I'm not leaving. I feel like me and my family have too much invested in this country to be like, I'm just going to go. No, I'm staying. I'm staying here.

[Monet X Change]

And when you lived in those really red towns, did you. Did you also live in, like a. Like, did you live in a. In a really conservative district where you. Where you. District neighborhood where you couldn't be yourself and you couldn't, like, exist?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I go to conservative places all the time and I've always been myself. And there are lots of.

[Monet X Change]

When you were living. I'm talking about Alabama and then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, when I live there. Yeah. But I've always been very myself. And there are lots of people in these towns who are very themselves. And yes, it is a bit of a risk. You know, I was in college living in Columbus, Georgia, which is pretty rad. It is a military town. It is one of the largest military bases in America. It's got. They don't call it Fort Benning anymore. They changed the name. J. Can you look up what they call Fort Benning to? Fort Benning is something. Now I found out that it was named after some like, Confederate Bibbidi bop boop. But it's like the home of the ranger, Fort Moore, the home of the airborne, Ranger, Rangers and the airborne and the infantry. So Columbus, Georgia, which is where I was born, is a pretty conservative town. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, yeah. I just know for me, I could not live in a town where I felt threatened to be myself. I couldn't be myself. I didn't see a lot of other people like me had to hide. I can't have this. I can't have that. Especially with how. How egregious it sounds like it's going to get over the next couple years. Although, I mean, I don't want us to become a fucking political podcast. I mean, we do talk politics on here a lot. It's just as we are. But I know in two years we have a chance to make a change with the midterms. So I guess it's not really four years we have to wait for, because now, bitch, you got judicial, legislative and the executive. So he does have all. I mean, yes, he cannot have the judicial, but it is a majority conservative judicial branch, duh, which is the Supreme Court. But in the midterms, we can hopefully change the Senate and the Congress if we. I mean, the Senate and the House of Representative if we don't like what's going on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I want to be clear, too. A lot of people who live in. I mean, I feel like I'm like, defending the south here, but a lot of folks who live in the south, they're not like living in, like some people, there is fear, but it's not like, as someone who spent a lot of time in a lot of small towns, both living and working, I think there's this narrative that like, queer people just cannot come out the door. They cannot be themselves. They are hiding, they don't speak, they keep their head down, they walk out the door and they act straight. There is a lot these towns, genuinely, even these small towns, they have queer communities and people who get together and work on things. I mean, I really learned this a lot doing we're here and being in a lot of these small towns and being like, wow, there's a whole ass queer community here in St. George, Utah, which is a very conservative state. You know, I found this booming drag community there. And then not only that, but when the Mormons tried to shut us down, there was a lot of support, like so much support coming out and uplifting these voices and making sure that people could have their. Have their voices heard and be seen and feel accepted. So small towns aren't just like, you fucking fags and trans people better get the fuck out of this town. And you blacks too. There are. There is a lot of that, but there is genuinely some support. It's just, it's just not. It's just not as overwhelming. Like I was driving around today and I was like, God damn, is everyone in LA gay? Are there straight people in la? It's not like that. It's certainly not like that. But Columbus, Georgia is in the sun downtown. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And I don't think, I know for me, I don't think, I don't think small towns are like that. I think a lot of people are just thinking ahead to the future, what it may look like in the next two to four years. I think. I mean, I've driven through the south and I've done gigs and not all so conservative like St. George or talking about or, or some, Some of the places, a spartan border, whatever you've been until we're here. But I've been to conservative places before and I know it's not like that because at the bottom line, this is still America. People have the right to exist how they want to and live their lives. But I think kind of going forward and what we see, the country or what, honestly, just believing what these conservative governors and senators and representatives and mayors, what they're saying, I think people are just nervous for what we made, what our place, what our country in these super conservative places might become. Not necessarily what they are right now, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think that that makes a lot of sense. I think a lot about people who live in Florida, which is a. Certainly a conservative hub. But Florida is also gay. Florida is gay. Every time I'm like, God damn, this is gay.

[Monet X Change]

You have Key west and Fort Lauderdale and Orlando and stuff. But I mean, I've spent a lot of time in, weirdly enough, in like Tampa a lot. And Tampa's also pretty gay too. Well, not pretty gay, but just Tampa is not Orlando.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everywhere I go is gay.

[Monet X Change]

Tampa is not white. Tampa is almost like Key West. Excuse me. Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've only been in Key west one time in my life though. You know, Key lime pie was invented in Key West. You don't like key lime pie?

[Monet X Change]

I fucking hate lemony limey desserts. I don't like a lemon tart. I don't like a key lime pie. I hate. I hate, I hate that taste. You like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love key lime pie. The original key lime pie did not taste like what you get at restaurants though. Like when I was. When I was in Key West, I had key lime pie. And it's good, but it is a very different texture. It's not like custardy. It's a little more gritty. But it was still good. It was still very good though.

[Monet X Change]

I also don't fancy a fruit and chocolate like a dark forest cake.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't. I don't. I'm not really a big. Well, I like chocolate covered strawberries.

[Monet X Change]

I do. I could do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But like bananas and pineapples.

[Monet X Change]

Chocolate covered bananas are demonic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever had edible arrangements with chocolate on it?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but I only eat the strawberries. I would not eat a chocolate covered pineapple.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These are good. I like them.

[Monet X Change]

I think. I don't like citrus and chocolate together. Like, you know, people eat like orange chocolate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it pineapple or citrus?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, it's not. Is that citrus? I don't know. Maybe the citrus.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You sounded. So is pineapple a citrus fruit? Pineapple is a tropical plant. That is Nate. Okay, that's not an answer. Is pineapple. Although pineapples have quite a bit of common in with citrus fruits, they are not actually related to one another. No one can blame you for thinking otherwise. But it turns out that pineapple is not a type of citrus fruit. Not even a distant cousin. In fact.

[Monet X Change]

What other foods. What other foods do you not like?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Little thing was written in Yahoo.

[Monet X Change]

Second, what other foods do you like? And he has A. And he has a running list of foods. I don't like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Food that I do like, that I

[Monet X Change]

don't like, that you don't. What don't you like?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like olives. I don't like mushrooms.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, wait, hold on. Let's. Let's see. Olives. I don't like olives either. And I do not like mushrooms. Although, Bob, there's a place in LA called Bavel. They have these and I don't like fucking mushrooms. Andy ordered them and tricked me. And he was like, oh, this is like the fried chicken thing. I was like, we order fried chicken. He's like, yeah, these fucking mushrooms, they tasted like fried chicken. I was gagged.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't believe you. Because I went to a restaurant one time, and the lady was like, it was a vegan restaurant. And I was like, okay, I eat vegan sometimes. And the lady was like, oh, this is our. I was like, I'll just have this. She goes, well, we have this protein or this meat substitute that's made from mushrooms. And I said, oh, I don't like mushrooms. She goes, no, it does not taste like mushrooms. I said, but it's made of mushrooms. No, I'm telling you, this tastes nothing like mushrooms. Like, everyone's always like, wow, this is made of mushrooms. And I was like, just to be clear, I really don't like mushrooms. Like, I genuinely do not like mushrooms. She's like, no, I'm telling you, this does not taste like mushrooms. I said, okay, I'm trusting you. I ordered it, it showed the table, I ate it. I said, I gotta be honest, this tastes like mushrooms. And she goes, well, it's made of mushrooms. I was like. She's like, well, yeah, I mean, it's made of mushrooms. And I was like, see, I feel like you were advocating for how much it does not taste like mushrooms. And now I'm sitting here with a mouthful of mushrooms, and I'm mad at

[Monet X Change]

you as someone who. I do not. I do not like mushrooms in a boat. I do not like mushrooms with a goat. I don't like mushrooms either. I tasted this thing, and I was like, now again, I know what fried chicken is, right? It is not. You're not gonna be like, oh, this is fried chicken. But the knowledge of knowing it was something different. I was like, but it was. It did takes mushroom me. I was very shocked. And I hate mushrooms.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't.

[Monet X Change]

Like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like I'm back in that restaurant over in East. Over on. In east la, Sitting down, looking at this woman looking in the face, swearing it would taste nothing like mushrooms. And then I. I sit here, and now I'm sitting here with a mouth full, riddled with mushrooms.

[Monet X Change]

Did you swallow riddle? Did you swallow it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, I had one bite, but I didn't finish it. It was like. It was like a breakfast spot.

[Monet X Change]

Do you like octopus?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Me either. I don't like. Oh, my God, we're such platonic life partners.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or squid.

[Monet X Change]

I don't like squid. Mushrooms. I mean, squid, octopus, calamari, none of that. I don't like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm also not interested in eating your pasta with squid ink in it either. I'm not interested in that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, same. What about marshmallows?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like marshmallows.

[Monet X Change]

I don't fuck with marshmallows. I don't like marshmallows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like the dehydrated marshmallows. I like the fluffy marshmallows. I love. I don't get to do it very often, but I really enjoy toasting marshmallows and then peeling off the little thing, eating that and then toasting again. I really love that. I love a s'.

[Monet X Change]

More. I could do more, but my ratio of marshmallow to chocolate has to be like 4 to 1. I need like 4 chocolate for one marshmallow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Graham cracker. Chocolate bar, marshmallow. Chocolate bar, graham cracker.

[Monet X Change]

I need two. I need two chocolate bars. Smushing the marshmallow. I cannot have too much, or what I would do is I will cut the marshmallow into like a quarter and then have the two chocolates. I need to be like a marshmallow for me. I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like s' more flavored things. I like s', mores, but I do not like s' more flavored things.

[Monet X Change]

What about the s' more flavored pop Tarts? Those were. Those. I used to love those. Those pop tarts were next level.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, if your favorite pop tart isn't one of the fruit flavors, I don't trust your judgment on, on taste and stuff. If you tell me your favorite flavor pop tart is cinnamon or chocolate, I, I, then I'm like, I don't think we're going to agree on a lot of things. Because, like, the best flavors of pop tarts are fruit. They're all fruit. The ones with the jelly, the cherry

[Monet X Change]

or, or the, or the blueberry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Strawberry.

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you when things are flavored? Strawberry or cherry? They taste the same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, cherry tastes like medicine because if you. If you grew up. If you grew up taking diamond elixir, like cherry, anything is medicine. Everything that's cherry flavored is medicine without fail, every single time.

[Monet X Change]

I disagree. I disagree.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, this is a diamond tap flavored pop tart.

[Monet X Change]

Moving on. Do you like shellfish? Like scallops, mussels?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't eat any shellfish.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I don't. Oh, my God. I don't eat any shellfish. Except shrimp. I'll eat shrimp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will have, like, a deep fried mini shrimp. But if it's jumbo, if the bread to shrimp ratio is a lot of shrimp and a little bread, I would eat popcorn shrimp.

[Monet X Change]

I like a popcorn shrimp. Okay, what is it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But like. But the coconut shrimp or the. Or the jumbo shrimp. No crab.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't like crab either. But I would do a crab cake. That's because it's mixed with so many other things. Like, you're barely getting crab. But people that just eat, like, they go to the buffet and just having, like, fucking crabs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ugh. I've had a crab cake before. When I used to work at Ruby Tuesday, we had really great crab cakes. And I remember eating one being like, I don't love this, but. But everyone loved the crab cakes at Ruby Tuesday. I was like, okay, I'll try it. Also, they had a great white bean chicken chili. They had a great white bean chicken chili.

[Monet X Change]

What about tomatoes?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like tomatoes when they are diced, not sliced. I do not like slices of tomato under any circumstances. I don't want it on my burger. I don't want it on my sandwich. I do not want tomato slices like cherry tomatoes in my salad. It can be diced. It has to be cubed, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

Like, I don't like them on a burger. I don't like them on a finger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like sliced tomatoes. They have to be diced.

[Monet X Change]

I think Jacob was just listing things. So, okay, this is what Jacob has listed. Mayonnaise, mayonnaise, sushi, ramen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let's go one by one. I do not like mayonnaise, like, at all.

[Monet X Change]

At all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At all.

[Monet X Change]

I don't like aioli.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you get lubrication?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, we talked about this, about you getting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nor do I like aioli.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I just understand how you. What we talked about. So, okay, you were going to somewhere you have a turkey and cheese sandwich. Where's the lubrication?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We kind of eat a lot of. I don't eat a lot of deli meat. Like, I don't have Cold cuts very often. I'm very rarely eating cold cuts.

[Monet X Change]

When you go to a. When you go to. When you used to live in New York and you went to the deli to get a sandwich, you never got a cold cut sandwich.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I always got breakfast sandwiches. I always got sausage sandwiches.

[Monet X Change]

You never had a delica sandwich.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do not like deli meat. I mean, I don't dislike it, but I'm just not into deli meat. So I would usually get either a sausage, egg and cheese on a croissant or I would get a burger with fries.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, let's get into sushi. Can you do fucks with sushi?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like sushi, but I like vegetable sushi or California rolls. I'm a sushi wimp. I'm not that big chunk of when the fish is on top.

[Monet X Change]

Nagiri.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that nigiri?

[Monet X Change]

I think that's nagiri or sashibi. Let's take a break. I'll tell you what I called you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're gonna find out.

[Monet X Change]

I love. Oh, but I only like salmon rolls. I'm not doing yellowtails. I'm not doing tuna rolls. I'm only having salmon rolls. Like a spicy salmon roll or different.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

There was that place in New York. I forget the name of it. It's called Mama something. And they used to do like the cool mama fungo. No, it was up by me. It was like they would do like sushi rolls, but it'll be out of like burger meat and chicken and like pork belly stuff like that. It was like a new way to do it. It was like Dominican Japanese pork.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would eat that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it was good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't eat that.

[Monet X Change]

It was good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I also love cucumber rolls and sweet potato rolls. I love vegetarian vegan sushi. I really like that a lot.

[Monet X Change]

No, and I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm really heavy on the soy sauce and the wasabi. Like, if you're not putting wasabi on your sushi, what are you doing?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, a little.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honest, it's kind of just a vehicle for me to eat wasabi in soy sauce.

[Monet X Change]

I. Well, that's the thing. That thing, that wasabi. When you put wasabi on something and then you get that kick when you. With that hot, spicy kick through your nose. Oh, that shit. But that was like fucking. I want. That's like ice in my fucking veins. I love that feeling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's stronger than Ivermectin.

[Monet X Change]

All right, let's talk about cheeses. Do you fuck with goat cheese? What cheeses do you not fuck with?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like brie.

[Monet X Change]

Agreed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like soft wheel cheeses.

[Monet X Change]

Agreed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like goat cheese. I'll have goat cheese.

[Monet X Change]

I don't fuck with goat cheese.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't like cottage cheese.

[Monet X Change]

Don't like cottage cheese.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But the cheese of cheeses is a sharp cheddar.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, a sharp cheddar is good. A sharp cheddar or a gouda gouda is also. Gouda is like cheddar's cousin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a little soft, though, isn't it?

[Monet X Change]

It's a little softer, but it's. But it has that same bite to it a little. But when I say softer, it's like the difference between your elbow skin and your arm skin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do love blue. Blue. Your elbow skin. I do love blue cheese a lot.

[Monet X Change]

I like a blue cheese. I don't like a feta. Feta is too salty. I can't eat feta cheese.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love feta cheese. You want a lasagna without feta cheese?

[Monet X Change]

That's not feta cheese in. That's ricotta cheese in the lasagna, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, ricotta.

[Monet X Change]

Y' all so passionate. You. This thing is so confident.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the idea of a. Of a. Of a lasagna without ricotta would be really crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, here's the thing about. Because, like, in my mind, Thanksgiving is such a specific, like, thing of food, right? But I guess Thanksgiving, based on your American nest or what your family is, is different for everyone. Like, I guess some people really be having lasagna for Thanksgiving.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never had a lasagna Thanksgiving, but I think if.

[Monet X Change]

If you're an Italian family doing Thanksgiving, I assume there's a lasagna and there's more. Like, they're more. They're not. They're not making collard greens and oxtails and shit, you know?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't.

[Monet X Change]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I mean, I went to Jacob's Thanksgiving. They're not. They're not Italian, but they are white. And wait, did I go to your family's Thanksgiving? Did I make that up?

[Monet X Change]

I think you made that up. I don't remember that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I went to Passover. I went to Passover. Never mind.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's a different holiday, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. I went to Passover. Have I been to someone's white's house for Thanksgiving?

[Monet X Change]

I went to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, we hosted Thanksgiving. We hosted Thanksgiving at our New York City apartment. So technically, you had.

[Monet X Change]

So that's a half white one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be fair, we're not white, but half of y' all is we're not white. You're white.

[Monet X Change]

You're white.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, me and Jacob didn't cook anything. No, that's not true. I did make some great sliders.

[Monet X Change]

Those fucking sliders, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

And if y' all know anything about Bob, Bob would not. Bob was unsettled until I had one of the sliders.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it was. All of the ingredients in the slider were delicious. It was a turkey gravy mashed potato slider. They want to be clear here. They're on. That's. They're. They're on.

[Monet X Change]

The.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The. The. The. Were they on Hawaiian roast? I can't remember.

[Monet X Change]

They were on Hawaiian rolls with turkey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Guys, this is delicious. Turkey gravy, mashed potato.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you saying mashed potato on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I'm just invoking my. I was watching this video today of these. These on jubilee. Jubilees moved on from their political content. And then. And they had one where they were doing five. You know, they do, like. Like, odd one out where they will. They'll bring in, like, a bunch of Christians. But one person is not a Christian. You have to find who's not the Christian.

[Monet X Change]

I never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This time they had one where it was. They were trying to find out who is the black guy. It's a bunch of white guys. The concept is they're all wearing blindfolds, and all you can hear is their voices. You have to find out who is not white, who is the black person. But they're all blindfolded, and they were. They're all black. Everyone is black, and they're all acting white. And that shit was sending me. Sending me.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I mean, I think I'm a. I have a pretty good. I get sometimes I'm a pretty good guess of someone who, like, if they're black or white from there. From their voice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, obviously, these guys are affecting their voices.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm saying just, like, regular.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're all trying to act white. Like, it's five guys. The point of this is. The point of this is there's one person who's obviously pretending like the one person who will be like. So typically, there has been one where they have a person who is. They have done it for real. And then the one black person is just acting white and trying to fool them. Or it'll be. It'll be five women and then one man, like one cisgender straight man, or at least a cisgender man acting like he's a woman. But everyone's wearing blindfolds. Mikey, you have to Just guess who the woman is.

[Monet X Change]

I think Mikey was at my house or something with Jacob. I think they were going to the beach for Andy's thing. And Mikey answered the phone and I was like, I wish I had Mackie's voice. Back when I had trade in my 20s, I would have been breaking it in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mikey has a very, very soft voice.

[Monet X Change]

Hello. And I was like, hello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hi.

[Monet X Change]

Can I hear your voice? Can I hear your lady voice?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have a lady voice.

[Monet X Change]

Can you try?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I think ladies have voices like this. I just want to be very.

[Monet X Change]

You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I do know. And I'm clocking you. Do your.

[Monet X Change]

Do a high pitched voice of a typical AFAB person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I was going to do a lady voice, I'd do one of these here lady voices because I do believe that this is actually a voice that a lady would use or a lady would have. But a woman with an affected voice,

[Monet X Change]

that is bad for your vocal cords. Stop that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I have Mikey Grande here right now doing his woman voice for you.

[Commercial Voice]

Hi.

[Monet X Change]

Didn't you just think Ariana Grande's performance in the Wicked movie was just darling?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, Mikey is just speaking.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, they're laughing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They said. They said you're just speaking. Sorry, I'm wearing headphones and realizing we were just talking about you. And if you want to follow Mikey, you can follow Mikey over on Mr. Grande. Over on. You're probably already following Mikey. Mikey has a ton of followers, so you're probably already following.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Mikey does. Mikey is. Mikey is that girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Think Mikey for us. But tell me we had some technical reason why we couldn't talk at the same time.

[Monet X Change]

Tell me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me hear your lady voice.

[Monet X Change]

My lady voice is like, more like this. I'm like, so, so, so. Okay, back in it. Like, hey. Hey, Poppy.

[Commercial Voice]

Hey, Poppy. What's up?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you want me to come over later? One time. All right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why were you Puerto Rican? Why? Why was you Puerto Rican?

[Monet X Change]

My Puerto Rican cousin Bobby?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, because you have a New York. You're affecting a New York accent.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're like, yeah, puppy, you want me to come over? Or whatever?

[Monet X Change]

Like, come over, whatever. No, I'm not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You fully was Puerto Rican.

[Monet X Change]

No, I said, hey, what's up? What's good? You want to come over? Yeah. Does that sound feminine?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does that sound.

[Monet X Change]

Does that sound like a lady?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I don't have a good gauge for what sounds feminine and what doesn't because I don't know. I can't tell anymore. Like, I genuinely have lost the ability to tell because I would. Like, that sounds like a lady's voice to me. And someone else would be like, that doesn't sound like a lady's voice. And I mean, in my mind, if I'm speaking this way, it sounds feminine. And sometimes women have deeper voices. But this is not, like, obviously, this is much higher than my voice normally sounds. And if I'm gonna have to affect a lady's voice, then I will change my cadence in the way that I speak and I try to laugh a little more.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think women always laughing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. I think that women do often laugh to placate men so they don't get hurt. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do believe that women laugh so that men don't.

[Monet X Change]

You're right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yeah, a lot of times I will affect my voice in this way just to make sure if I'm. But I don't. I've never really had the need to try to do a woman's voice, but the truth is, I can't tell if this does sound like a woman speaking or not. I literally can't tell.

[Monet X Change]

You sound like a really nervous woman. You sound like you're trying to rush

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a conversation because you have to. I'm not nervous. I'm really comfortable with you. My best friend is gay. My best friend is gay, and he watches RuPaul's Drag Show. I love that show.

[Monet X Change]

RuPaul's Drag Race, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, RuPaul's. No, I'm sorry. RuPaul's Drag Race. I love that show. It's so good. Is it still airing? Is it still on?

[Monet X Change]

Is it still airing? It's literally the most successful, Emmy award winning show of all time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. That's amazing. I love that. Keep winning. Girl. Girl, you better slay. You're gonna be Diva Boots.

[Monet X Change]

Where is that from? Oh, popular.

[Commercial Voice]

There's this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's this.

[Monet X Change]

I think she's British, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Diva. It was like if. If wiki was written today. Diva Boots. You're gonna be Diva Boots. Honey, honey. Work, work. Sashay. But I can't today. I can't remember her name, but type in Diva Boots and you'll find her on TikTok. She's very. She's. I can't vouch how funny she is, but that one thing is very funny. So I can't be like, you're gonna love this content, but that one was very funny. I can't. I can't vouch for that one for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you doing?

[Monet X Change]

Andy's Knuckle the door a second.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's your Thanksgiving dish you're gonna prepare for everyone?

[Monet X Change]

I'm not. I'm not gonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The one that's going to gag the girlies.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not doing anything. Andy and I were going to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't mean this Thanksgiving. I mean the one when you gag the girlies.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, just. Okay. I could make a really great macaroni and cheese. Really great macaroni and cheese. Like, very good. You know Mark Lamont Hill? Well, he's a political. Not political. He's this. I don't know. He's a journalist. Really popular black journalists. He likes. He used to. He works at, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I believe you. I just don't know him. I believe you.

[Monet X Change]

And he does this thing every year. Like, what's the one thing that everybody loves at Thanksgiving that you don't. That you. You don't really with? And his macaroni and cheese. He doesn't like macaroni and cheese. I'm like, what? Who doesn't like? Everyone loves macaroni and cheese. Everyone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what really irritates me?

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When it's not macaroni, when it's, like, penne or fucking tortellini, I'm like, this isn't macaroni and cheese.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, this isn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Macaroni is a kind of noodle.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you can't stick a feather in your hat and call it that, then it's not macaroni.

[Monet X Change]

I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one goes stuck a feather in his hat and called it linguini. Yankee do. That's not what they say.

[Monet X Change]

Well, imagine making macaroni and cheese with, like, a linguine. Diabolical. You should be executed now when you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

make a penne and cheese. Cause I will not call it Mac and cheese. It's quite delicious because it goes through the tunnel. Macaroni's a little too small for the cheese to actually get inside the noodle, but the actual, like, thick parts of cheese can get caught in the penne, which is quite delicious.

[Monet X Change]

Penne. What's the penne noodle? Oh, that's like the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that are usually cut on an angle.

[Monet X Change]

No, no. You got to use corkscrews. Because corkscrews, they go like this. So when the cheese melts in there, you get pockets of, like, cheese, like, inside the noodle. That's good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's called corkscrew noodles.

[Monet X Change]

Corkscrew noodles. Yes. That's one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a silly. This doesn't sound Italian at all.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, there we go. Yeah. Where's the corkscrew?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's called ratoni.

[Monet X Change]

No, that's not. That's not. That's not what I'm talking about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That looks like a corkscrew, doesn't it?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but that's not what I'm talking about. The one. It's like it's hollow inside. It's not just flat. It's hollow inside and go around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not flat.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, can you scroll? That is flat. That's like. That's like a flat. That's like a. Like a. Like a fettuccine turn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like twisted corkscrew noodle.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Corkscrew noodles. They're called Caledani Calitani noodles. Yeah, they're called

[Monet X Change]

Interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that what they're called or is that the brand you're gonna be? Diva boots. I cannot. This. This is gonna be stuck in my head until the end of time. I've done myself.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, what's the dish you're making that will turn a girlies out?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know it's called cavatappi.

[Monet X Change]

Cavatapi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't cook, but I saw a recipe online for Mac and cheese, and I think that I can make it better than yours. I just saw one and I was

[Monet X Change]

like, I can make this, Bob. I'm not even gonna challenge you because at this rate, I'm gone January. You. We're. You're busy. We're never gonna do it. What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese can be made year round. It's not Thanksgiving food.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but we. All these things are stacking up, and we. With your schedule, we'll do it on

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Saturday when I get back. We'll do it. We'll cook on Saturday. On Saturday.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A week from today.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And one week.

[Monet X Change]

And you think you can make a better macaroni cheese than me without. You don't even cook. I think I can, but you don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think I can make a better Mac and cheese. I saw this recipe online. It looked easy.

[Monet X Change]

And who's the. Who's gonna be the taste tester?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who do you want it to be?

[Monet X Change]

I think we get. I think we get someone we know who will be honest. Well, she can't eat it, so. No. Kim. Kim is a food connoisseur. Kim is gonna be our taste tester.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kim would be good.

[Monet X Change]

Kim would be great. Naomi. Kenny dairy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We need three people. It can't all come down to one person. That could just be a matter of, like, I think we should bring she back.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, are you flying her to la? Oh, no, she's here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We could also. Okay, we could have Zach. No. Well, Zach, Noi Towers, Kim Chi and a black. So a white person, Asian person and a black person.

[Monet X Change]

We can get Marvin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can get Amber. We can get Jasmine.

[Monet X Change]

We can get Day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We could have Day. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, let's use someone who likes to do social media. Maybe. Maybe Jasmine.

[Monet X Change]

Amber. Jasmine. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amber or Jasmine can come by and do it. So that way we're gonna have three people on Saturday. Monet, I don't need. I don't want to hear no backpedaling. I don't want to hear no, I couldn't go shopping. I want to hear no, I didn't have time.

[Monet X Change]

Well, let me look. I want to hear before I just say yes. Let me see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want to hear no, I got busy Saturday.

[Monet X Change]

The What? Saturday. Saturday 30th. I fly back Saturday. So Saturday night, same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what's the problem?

[Monet X Change]

I think I get back till late.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Same. And we're podcasting. We're podcasting on that day. I think it's. I think this is the episode.

[Monet X Change]

No, we're gonna be. I was gonna do it virtually in the morning. Saturday or Sunday.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're already backing down.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's backpedaling, your honor.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can see the. I can see the fear in your eyes. That being said, I make a pretty good stuffing, actually. I saw this thing online that was going viral. People make White Castle stuffing.

[Monet X Change]

White Castle? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like this thing. People are like, why? Why are white people making White Castle stuffing? Which I think some people online are just making food to make people angry. But I could see, honestly, everyone kept being like, it looks gross. I'm like, I can see this actually being tasty. It's just bread meat. It's like white casting.

[Monet X Change]

Like a White Castle burgers. Like, the contents of that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You buy White Castle and you turn it into stuffing. And I was like, I like White Castle burgers. I could see this being. Being good.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I like White Castle. Kamika and I actually. No, I would. I would be into that, actually. That sounds good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Acting like it was so great. I was like, honestly, this doesn't seem that bad to me. Everyone kept being like this. Looked. I was like, I just don't know if it's gonna be that bad. It seems like it might actually be. All right.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Call me crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Calling me now.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, Ms. Cleo. Didn't she Die.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She is no longer with us.

[Monet X Change]

Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. And she wasn't really Jimmy Akin. I think she's from Austin, and she went to. And I think she did some tax evasion or something.

[Monet X Change]

Cranberry sauce. I think cranberry sauce, in my opinion, is one of the nastiest things that is part of Thanksgiving. I. It's never been a tradition in my family to have a cranberry sauce. I don't like particular cranberry sauce. And people always say, oh, the ones that have the ridges on it from the can, that's the best one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I wouldn't call it the nastiest thing.

[Monet X Change]

Not for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't particularly care for cranberry sauce, but I have added it, and it has a nice tartness, and it can, like. It gives a real punchiness to your. To your meal. But I don't mix in cranberry sauce, but I do aesthetically prefer the one from the can. I think it looks nicer than the bowl of slop.

[Monet X Change]

It's not slop. It's just a made cranberry sauce. What do you mean, slop? So you want. So you want the one that just standing there jiggling like this on the. On the table?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you cut it. You cut it, and it's laying, and

[Monet X Change]

you, you, you, you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It comes out of the can. You cut it into slices, and you pull a whole slice over to your plate. You don't. You don't. Everyone's not hacking at it themselves. You chop it up and then. And you can, like, either put it in, like, a spiral or something, and you pull a disc of cranberry sauce over to yourself. I think. I think it just looks nicer than the. Than the bowl of jello.

[Monet X Change]

It's not jello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, but it looks like. I know it's not slop. It's not Jello. It looks like a bowl of jello. It looks like a bowl of very thick jello that's been mushed up. So I'm like, put it in a. I think it looks better. I think the can looks better to me. In my opinion.

[Monet X Change]

The can. The can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And also, I will say this, too. Y' all might come for me for this one, but some of y' all cornbread is not good. And just give me jiffy. Like, if you're gonna be out here making cornbread, that's not great. Just give me jiffy. I don't need. I don't need your family recipe. Like, it might only be good to your family. Now there are Times where there has been some genuinely good cornbread. But cornbread. I don't think people are often talking about how often and how quickly cornbread can go south. Because there are some very sweet cornbreads, then they have some like, more plain, then some savory cornbreads. I prefer a sweet cornbread.

[Monet X Change]

I did not grow up in a cornbread family. Only cornbreads I've had. I've been to soul food spots. So my family didn't make. I didn't grow up with a. In a cornbread home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you like cornbread?

[Monet X Change]

I do like cornbread. I do like a good cornbread. And also you prefer them sweet or.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or not?

[Monet X Change]

I don't have a preference either. Or I've been to, you know, soul food spots that they do both. And as long as I just like. I don't find a good food if it's gonna be good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you've never had jiffy?

[Monet X Change]

I don't know if I've never. I've had jiffy. I don't know if the place I've eaten it. They made jiffy, but it was just cornbread. But I've never made jiffy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You. I mean, you wouldn't because you don't have. But if you have jiffy, you're like, this is jiffy. You're like this. You're like, no one can try to make. No one can give you jiffy and act like they made it. You can't act. Cuz jiffy is so specific. And also I prefer that it not be in a pie tin, but in a muffin tin. I prefer to put a cornbread muffin over to my plate versus cutting up a triangle. It just feels nice. Well, my mom. My mom would cook it in a circle and you cut it in triangles.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because that's because we weren't making. There are only three of us, so we were not making giant pans of cornbread.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

I'm not a fan of collard greens. I don't like collard greens. I don't get it. I don't like it. It's just like. It's just warm green. I don't like collard greens. Never. It's not for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're doing this thing that I've noticed happens a lot in restaurants and someone pointed out to me, a black person pointed out to me, and now I cannot unsee it. A lot of times when a black person at the restaurant doesn't like something and you ask them why they don't articulate why they'd be like. And then they'll boil down to one final word, and they'll go, it's just nasty.

[Monet X Change]

It's nasty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm like, I need to know, is it salty? Is it cold? Is it, like. What specifically is it about?

[Monet X Change]

It's mushy. It's just like. It's just, like, mushy together. And it's like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a texture problem.

[Monet X Change]

I don't want to eat warm green

[Bob the Drag Queen]

food, so it's a texture thing.

[Monet X Change]

But I eat, like, a warm spinach. I've had, like, a warm spinach salad. I think that's good. But greens, and they're tough. No, I'm not greens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't like collard greens either. And my family apparently makes great collard greens. I can't vouch for them because I don't like them.

[Commercial Voice]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever tried this again?

[Monet X Change]

Have you ever tried them?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, of course. Imagine if I didn't like them.

[Monet X Change]

I never tried some foods. I'm just like a text looking at a texture thing. I'm like, I'm not gonna eat it like mussels. I'm like, I'm just not interested in that because they look like oysters.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If there's something I never tried, I'm not interested in, I'll say I've never tried. But I would say I don't like it. I'll be like, I don't know. I've never had it. I'm not. It is. It doesn't. It isn't. It doesn't. It doesn't speak to me. But, yeah. My family apparently makes great collard greens. I don't find them great because I don't like collard greens personally. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I do love a good neck

[Monet X Change]

bone, like the neck of the chicken or the turkey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. I think it's the neck of a cow. Oh, I think the neck of a cow. But there isn't a lot of. Thank you, Jacob. But there isn't a ton of meat on it, so you really. It's very little meat on the neck bone. Very little meat. So you. You can't get a whole lot of what it is, but it tastes. But when you get it, it tastes really good.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you know what I never see on Thanksgiving? Barbecue. I love barbecue.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't. There's no barbecue on Thanksgiving. Barbecue. No, there's no space for that at Thanksgiving.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I want to see barbecue on Thanksgiving. I do you ever Had a deep fried turkey.

[Monet X Change]

No, but we need to stop acting. Turkey meat is not great. We just stop acting like turkey meat is great. The truth is it's not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chicken meat is not great. Like, no one's eating chicken for the taste of chicken. You're eating chicken for the taste of what they put on it. Like, for example, there are people who eat steak because they like steak. They want the steak, they want a little bit of seasoning on it, but they want to eat that fucking steak. The same thing with mussels and certain fish. But when it comes to chicken, who just loves the taste of chicken, who's like chicken is that like, if you. There are folks. There are a lot of people in the world who would eat an unseasoned steak. I don't think there are many folks who would eat an unseasoned piece of chicken.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And turkey is similar to that, but drier and thicker.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of turkey. You know, in Vermont, there are more turkeys than people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not know that.

[Monet X Change]

There are more turkeys than people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting fact.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And there are more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In New York, there are more brown mice than people.

[Monet X Change]

Is that a real. Or you're just saying things.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's real.

[Monet X Change]

And in Vermont, there are more lesbians than turkeys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So lesbians aren't people.

[Monet X Change]

Not in Vermont.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's in Bernie Sanders state. Boyney Sanders.

[Monet X Change]

Bernice Sanders.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's one of your most memorable Thanksgivings you ever had?

[Monet X Change]

One of the most memorable Thanksgivings I had. I don't know. I think the one that we had at your house was pretty memorable, actually, with you and your fleet of pies

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and Patty's mom.

[Monet X Change]

And Patty's mom. And us playing. Us playing Quiplash and Bob and I just putting it with N word, as

[Bob the Drag Queen]

many as we get.

[Monet X Change]

And the first time I came, she was like, oh, my Lord. Melinda Minor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was a really fun one. And we. And we had. There was one straight guy there. We made him. We made him carve the turkey. And he was not good at it.

[Monet X Change]

Evan. Well, also, y', all, Bob just brought. We're like, oh. He like. He's like, I need like a turkey carver. So the Bob, which again, is what it is for what the turkey carver Bob brought out is the one he used to make his fucking hip pads. I'm like, this just feels inappropriate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I watched it.

[Monet X Change]

So what? This is what I'm talking about. Everything has a purpose for me. I wouldn't. I would just. No, I don't have one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we're not eating turkey.

[Monet X Change]

You think that a turkey carve is the only way to cover turkey?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's the best and fastest way.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but there are other ways. We were looking for efficiency. We're just looking to just get the job done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, the guy didn't know how to carve turkey. Evan did not know how to carve a turkey. So now we're gonna give him a butcher's knife and a big fork. He already said he don't know what he's doing. I just put it through the washing

[Monet X Change]

machine and also the washing machine. You threw it in the washing machine?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy. I didn't have. I actually didn't have a washing machine. I meant the dishwasher.

[Monet X Change]

I just threw it in the washing machine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I never used that dishwasher until Jacob moved in.

[Monet X Change]

You would just wash everything by hand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everything by hand. And then one day Jacob was like, you should use the dishwasher. I was like, use a dishwasher.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'm very sad we won't spend our Thanksgiving together this year, but I hope next year can we start? Can you and I start as platonic life partners? A tradition next year to start spending our Thanksgivings together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've already started. I've invited you to several Thanksgiving. I invited you to. I invited you to this one, actually.

[Monet X Change]

What you doing this one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm going on a cruise. I invited you.

[Monet X Change]

I couldn't go to that, Bob. I had plans with Andy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just saying I invited. I invited Andy too, which is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, well, I hope you have a good Thanksgiving on your cruise with y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

With y' all sad ass cruising in the holidays.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll be doing a show on Thanksgiving.

[Monet X Change]

I'm happy for you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'll be at crew. I'll be at sea with Roz Hernandez.

[Monet X Change]

I like Ross Hernandez. She's fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So if y' all listening on the day this drops I am performing. I'm probably burn right now. In the middle of the ocean. Word in the. In the middle of the ocean.

[Monet X Change]

I love you very much and the next time I see you, Thanksgiving will be over.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Get you some of these. You need some of these. Thanksgiving. Y' all don't do Thanksgiving without your Tums. Tums. Tums.

[Commercial Voice]

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