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Monet X Change
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Bob the Drag Queen
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Jacob
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Monet X Change
And I'm Money Exchange.
Jacob
And this is sibling rivalry.
Monet X Change
On this week's episode, we talk about foods we don't like.
Jacob
We talk about Thanksgiving.
Monet X Change
And we find out what made Bob say this.
Jacob
Why were you Puerto Rican? Why was you Puerto Rican? And we find out what made Monet say this.
Monet X Change
I don't understand why that is a thing. How you doing?
Jacob
I'm. Well. I've had a pretty relaxing day. I woke up and I cleaned my balcony, laundered the seat covers on the. The balcony furniture, and then I had a chat with someone I'm hiring on the tour, and then I went droning, and then I came back, and then I went to Target to buy some things because I was like, oh, this cleaning would have been easier if I had certain items. Let me. Next time, I'll have these items. Like, I didn't have a mop bucket because I have a. I have a Swiffer, Like, a wet Swiffer mop. So I've never actually had to.
Monet X Change
I think the technical term is a Swiffer wetjet.
Jacob
A Swiffer wetjet. So I was like. I never had to, like, dunk anything, but I was like, oh. But we kept, like, splashing water on the. On the balcony, trying to get the, like, the gunk up.
Monet X Change
Oh, you and Jacob did it together?
Jacob
No, me and Cam did it.
Monet X Change
Oh.
Jacob
And we kept having to, like, fill up, like, this. A pot. Like a literal. A pot that we cook in. Just running water from the sink to the porch and pouring it on the floor. And then I had two trash cans that I was going from the tub to the. The balcony with.
Monet X Change
I get so weird out. Weirded out about stuff like that. Like, when I do things, like each thing has its own utility. Like, for example, when Andy and I first met, he would, like, scrape, like, he had if potato had wet food. He would, like, use, like, our. Our. Our regular dining spoons. I'm like, no, we. I had. At that point, I had a spoon I use only for Colleen stuff. It was like a. I call it like, the pet spoon. Like, for me, everything has a thing. And, like, you wash. Huh?
Jacob
Did you watch the.
Monet X Change
Yeah, you watch it. I, I, I, I. I know that you're just washing it, but for me, I'm like, no, Colleen cannot use the human Spoons. She uses the pet spoon.
Jacob
We don't have any pets here. And it was literally just transporting water from the. I wasn't. I wasn't dunking the broom in the.
Monet X Change
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Jacob
I was just pouring water on the ground.
Monet X Change
Okay, Okay. I thought you were using it to, like, ring out the mop and, like, blah, blah, blah. In my mob, there is no mop.
Jacob
Again, there's a wet jet, so we. So the wedge. I wouldn't. You. You wouldn't want to clean a porch with a wet jet. Like, this is like.
Monet X Change
Yeah, no way.
Jacob
This is like dirt from the universe and the earth outside, like, really caked on there. So you. I don't think a wet jet could get it. So we were actually using the broom to, like, and get into the little cracks and crevices and then, like, pouring water on top of it, like hot water and, like, scrubbing it up.
Monet X Change
So when you put all that water in there, do you. Did you. Obviously your. Your porch has drainage. It just goes. Did your drainage go down the side of the building? I never.
Jacob
It goes into a gutter, and the gutter goes down the thing and goes into the. To the street.
Monet X Change
Because oftentimes you see in places like St. Lucia, like, people. And sometimes in, like, in the. More like in condominiums, like. Yeah. They would just have little holes at the bottom of the thing. The water. It's like, when. Like. Because obviously it's an island, it rains there often. Like, water, when there's a lot of water, just kind of just goes to, like, the little hole, but not into, like, a gutter.
Jacob
They also have this in houses, too. Any house that has a balcony or a roof, there's gutters. So if you go to your roof and clean your roof, you don't just throw the water.
Monet X Change
I know, the roof, but like a balcony.
Jacob
But also balconies. And balconies and houses also. Otherwise you just have pools of water on your balcony. Also, porches. Porches have these as well.
Monet X Change
No, I know. I know what gutters are. Just. I just have a thing, not just for condos. When I had my old apartment, I guess I never had apartment with a gutter. I mean, I never had apartment. A balcony. I was never that lucky in New York.
Jacob
I mean, I was at your apartment here in LA with a balcony.
Monet X Change
Right. But I don't think I had a gutter.
Jacob
No, because you had. You had. It was like.
Monet X Change
It just went off the side of the building.
Jacob
But you had a gutter, though. There was a gutter at the edge of it. Otherwise, it would drip into the people's home downstairs. So there was a gutter?
Monet X Change
I don't think so.
Jacob
You could always drive by and check.
Monet X Change
I could. I could. And now I don't live there anymore. I don't even care. I'd be like, hey, guys, these places have gutters.
Jacob
Otherwise the stuff would be dripping from your place to the people's place downstairs.
Monet X Change
No, I get it. I just noticed some places that just, like. It's similar. Like, a little drain and the water just kind of goes through the thing that goes on the side of the building. Like, if it was to rain, like, the water just goes down the side of the building. Like, if it was raining, that would.
Jacob
Erode the building or would. You would start to see, like, a wet, like, mildewy stains coming from the. From the drains.
Monet X Change
I think you'd often see that.
Jacob
Oh, I've never been to St. Lucia, but in.
Monet X Change
You were invited last time I went.
Jacob
Do what?
Monet X Change
You were invited last time I went.
Jacob
You mean when I was on Madonna tour?
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Jacob
Oh, you're still invited.
Monet X Change
You just want to know you were invited.
Jacob
That's very convenient. All I had to do is just cancel my tour and I could. And I, too, could have gone to St. Lucia.
Monet X Change
You could. Madonna said. No, you weren't. You went on Madonna in September.
Jacob
In September? Yeah.
Monet X Change
You went on Madonna in September.
Jacob
I was on tour still, though, on.
Monet X Change
September 1st this year. September 1st. You were not. You were not on tour.
Jacob
Well, I've done several tours this year, but I can tell you, because I have my whole life on account, I can tell you exactly where I was September 1st. Here we go. September 1st. I was BBD September 1st.
Monet X Change
Do you remember the first night of September?
Jacob
I was in Atlanta.
Monet X Change
There you have it.
Jacob
No, I was fine. I was in Memphis.
Monet X Change
Oh.
Jacob
I was in my family reunion.
Monet X Change
Wow.
Jacob
Jacob and I were flying. Jacob and I were flying back from. Jacob and I were flying back. Jacob came in, and I were flying back from the family reunion in.
Monet X Change
What about your family that you were invited to actually, what about your family in St. Lucia?
Jacob
The one that you were. You were invited to? That one. What about your family?
Monet X Change
St. Lucia.
Jacob
And I see you chose the family that meant the most to you.
Monet X Change
D.J. i'm right.
Jacob
Wow. Aunt Hazel is a. Is an avid listener of our podcast. And Aunt Hazel, now you know where you stand with. With Monet X Change, even though you rooted for her.
Monet X Change
I have a question.
Jacob
Yeah.
Monet X Change
Since you're a big WWF girly, are you excited that Cindy. Cindy McMahon is going to be the Cindy McMahon. Is her name Cindy? Hold on, you mean Stephanie McMahon, who's. Who used to be. Who is Vince McMahon's ex wife or whatever.
Jacob
Oh, Stephanie. I don't know. Stephanie McMahon is his daughter.
Monet X Change
No, his wife. Oh, I don't remember one of the McMahons. She's going to be this. The nude Secretary of education. Whatever.
Jacob
The McMahons are not really well regarded in the world of wrestling. I mean, to some people they are, but the McMahons, they even wrote themselves as heels on their own show.
Monet X Change
As heels?
Jacob
Heels like bad guys.
Monet X Change
I never heard that term as a heel.
Jacob
A heel is like a bad guy. So, no. I mean, but I was never a fan of Vince, Shane, Stephanie. And I guess Cindy, let me.
Monet X Change
Vince McMahon wife.
Jacob
She can't be a particularly young.
Monet X Change
Linda. Linda McMahon.
Jacob
How old is this woman?
Monet X Change
Oh, they're still married.
Jacob
How old is she?
Monet X Change
76 years old.
Jacob
Oof.
Monet X Change
They're still married. Didn't.
Jacob
Didn't.
Monet X Change
Vince McMahon had like, a whole, like, facelift. I remember he, like, he. I remember seeing pictures of him like, oh, wow, he got wild.
Jacob
What happened to Betsy DeVos?
Monet X Change
I think she was ousted with the Biden administration.
Jacob
But, I mean, you know, I don't think Trump is rehiring a single person from his former Cabinet.
Monet X Change
None of them. None of them.
Jacob
I mean, he was like, they were all bad, which is crazy.
Monet X Change
And what's crazier is all of the. All of the black people and people of color that were stumping for Trump and be like, he's going to do this. Not a single person in that cabinet is a person of color. Not a single person. What's Tulsi?
Jacob
Vivek. Wami. And Vivek won with Swami.
Monet X Change
I don't think Vivek is part of his. I don't think he's part of his cabinet at all.
Jacob
I think he is. Jake, when you look at it, I think Vivek was offered her position.
Bob the Drag Queen
Betsy DeVos quit after the insurrection on January 6th.
Monet X Change
Oh, wow. She stand for something.
Jacob
I mean, she was also the lady who had never had kids in public school and was like, I'm gonna fix education.
Monet X Change
Well, apparently. Oh, no. What's his name? Ben Carson. No, I think this might be the oldest the old cabinet. But she also apparently.
Jacob
Did he looked up if Vivek has a position.
Monet X Change
Well, he doesn't have a position yet. These are people he's nominating.
Jacob
Yeah, yeah, I understand. Yeah. If Vivek has been nominated for a position in something.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but what I was gonna say. Oh, yeah, and people like, oh, well, at least Linda McMahon, she has a degree, blah, blah, blah, and found out she lied. She lied about her degree. She did not get this degree in.
Bob the Drag Queen
Whatever he's in that weird thing with.
Jacob
Elon Musk that's named Doge. Oh, yeah, he's the Department of. The Department of Government Insight or like efficiency. The Department of Government Efficiency. The new. The new department that they're starting.
Monet X Change
Got it.
Jacob
And also, I thought Trump was trying to shut down the Department of Education. So he's put Linda McMann in front until he shuts. Until he shuts it down.
Monet X Change
I don't think it was department. It's something in the. Something with schooling or whatever. And long story short, but she lied about getting this degree. She got a degree in, like, French, but she said, oh, I got it in higher education, something. But it was not an education. It wasn't like French language.
Jacob
She studied French.
Monet X Change
So the lies are already starting anyway. We can't.
Jacob
I mean, there are also lots of criminals in there, too. A lot of criminals.
Monet X Change
A lot of criminals.
Jacob
Or alleged criminals.
Monet X Change
But I mean, it comes from the head, right? You're the head man in charge is a convicted felon, a sexual abuser.
Jacob
34 times, honey.
Monet X Change
34 times. 34 counts of a sexual predator. Like, he. So, like, what do you expect the people around.
Jacob
34 counts of sexual predation.
Monet X Change
No, no, no. These are separate things. These are separate.
Jacob
Okay. Found civilly liable for sexual assault and 34 felony counts for misappropriating campaign funds and for hiding the information, mis filing or something with government paperwork. And also lost a lot of lawsuits. Like, a lot. Or settled on a couple of fraud lawsuits and lost a couple of fraud lawsuits. And the only reason he was not found guilty for criminal charges on his sexual assault charges is because the statute limitation had gone away. Because in New York City, there's a statute of limitation on sexual assault, which is kind of why.
Monet X Change
I don't understand why that is a thing. I don't understand why we. It's a new law and they. I don't. Like, they should not. It should not. Did. Did. Did that law get burnt? No, the statute for limitations has been something around for a while. Like. Like.
Jacob
No, the statute of limitations on sexual assault in New York is new.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but I mean, like, in general, there shouldn't be. If anyone commits a crime, there shouldn't be no statute that, oh, it doesn't matter anymore because enough time has passed. Like, no.
Jacob
Well, I disagree. There are some laws that where the statute of limitation. I Think it makes sense. Like if you have a parking ticket five, seven years ago, then there should.
Monet X Change
Be no, well, felonious things. Right? Like, things are like.
Jacob
I also feel like certain amounts of theft, like theft under a certain amount. Like if you steal a TV, you shouldn't be able to get me 20 years later for stealing a TV from Walmart. I don't personally think so.
Monet X Change
I disagree. Like, you stole it. Like that doesn't. If you don't do the restitution or whatever it is to make it up like you still did the crime. I don't know.
Jacob
You're so hard on crime.
Monet X Change
No, it's just that because I, when I think about sexual assault, I think about like sexual assault. I'm like, if someone raped someone. Well, I agree with years ago and.
Jacob
Limitations on murder and sexual assault on minors. And some states don't have, Some states I don't believe have statute limitations on sexual assault, but New York does.
Monet X Change
And also we should, we should say in the wake of everything happening and all the, all going on, California is making steps to be a sanctuary city for queer people in this, in whatever this next four years might be. If you need gender affirming care or what sanctuary state.
Jacob
You said California is a sanctuary city.
Monet X Change
Oh, state, sorry. Yeah, for all that stuff. So. And anyone who's living in a city that you feel like you will be targeted or you won't be able to get the things you need, just know in case you didn't see it. I don't know. But California is making steps to be a sanctuary state for queer people.
Jacob
But also, we can't just have every liberal person flee these towns because then we will never get our votes back. If all the liberals, if all the libs, if they own the libs and they all move to California, New York and Michigan, not Michigan, Minnesota, then we will never get, we will never get the presidency back.
Monet X Change
I agree, but I don't live in those states. I can't imagine, like, I know I could not live in a state that was that hard on queer identity. Like I could not live there. So I can't speak to people who live there and have to deal with that every day and live in a, live in a, live in a. That you literally hate your existence because every day feels like you're waking up in hell. I can't imagine what that would be like. And I know I could literally never, I could never.
Jacob
I have lived in a few states that are like that. I lived in Georgia, I lived in Alabama and I lived in Mississippi. And it wasn't. I mean, I moved, but I didn't necessarily move because I'm queer. I moved because of the career that I wanted to have and because I wanted to move to New York City and I wanted to, you know, yada, yada, yada. But I think there are lots of people who also have a sense of ownership for where they live. In fact, let's talk more about it when I get back. When we get back.
Monet X Change
Not when you. When we get back.
Jacob
I don't know if you're coming back.
Monet X Change
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Jacob
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Monet X Change
And when you lived in those really red towns, did you. Did you also live in, like, a. Like, did you live in a really conservative district where you. Where you district neighborhood where you couldn't be yourself and you couldn't, like, exist?
Jacob
I mean, I go to a conservative place all the time, and I've always been myself. And there are lots of.
Monet X Change
When you were living. I'm talking about Alabama and.
Jacob
Yeah, when I lived there. Yeah, I meant. But I've always. I've always been very myself, and there are lots of people in these towns who are very themselves. And, yes, it is a bit of a risk. You know, I was in college living in Columbus, Georgia, which is pretty rad. It is a military town. It is one of the largest military bases in America. It's got. They don't call it Fort Benning anymore. They changed the name. Jake, can you look up what they call Fort Benning to? Fort Benning is something. Now, I found out that it was named after some, like, Confederate Bibbidi bop boop. But it's like the home of the Ranger, Fort Moore, the home of the airborne Ranger rangers and the airborne and the infantry. Um, so it's Columbus, Georgia, which is where I was born, is a pretty conservative town. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I just. I just. I just Know, for me, I could not live in a town where I feel threatened to be myself. I couldn't be myself. And I didn't see a lot of other people like me had to hide. I can't have this. I can't have that. Especially with how, how, how egregious it sounds like it's going to get over the next couple of years. Although, I mean, I know I don't want us to become a fucking political podcast. I mean, we do talk politics out here a lot. It's just who we are. But I know in two years we have a chance to make with the midterms. So I guess not really four years we have to wait for. Because now. But she got you judicial, legislative, and the executive. So he does have all. I mean, yes, he cannot have the judicial, but it is a majority conservative judicial branch, duh, which is the Supreme Court. But in the midterms, we can hopefully change the Senate and the Congress if we. I mean, the Senate and the House of Representative if we don't like what's going on.
Jacob
And I want to be clear too. A lot of people who live in. I mean, I feel like I'm like defending the south here, but a lot of folks who live in the south, they're not like, living in, like some people, there is fear, but it's not like, as someone who spent a lot of time in a lot of small towns, both living and working, I think there's this narrative that, like, queer people just cannot come out the door. They cannot be themselves. They are hiding, they don't speak, they keep their head down, they walk out the door and they act straight. There is a lot these towns, genuinely, even these small towns, they have queer communities and people who get together and work on things. I mean, I really learned this a lot doing we're here being in a lot of these small towns and being like, wow, there's a whole ass queer community here in St. George, Utah, which is a very conservative state. You know, I found this booming drag community there. And then not only that, but when the Mormons tried to shut us down, there was a lot of support. Like, so much support coming out and uplifting these voices and making sure that people could have their voices heard and be seen and feel accepted. So small towns aren't just like, you fucking fags and trans people better get the fuck out of this town. And you blacks too. There is a lot of that, but there is genuinely some support. It's just not as overwhelming. I was driving around today and I was like, goddamn, is everyone in LA gay? Are there straight people in la? It's not like that. It's certainly not like that. But Columbus, Georgia is in the sun downtown.
Monet X Change
Yeah. And I don't think, I know, for me, I don't think, I don't think small towns are like that. I think a lot of people are just thinking ahead to the future, what it may look like in the next two to four years. I think. I mean, I've driven through the south and I've done gigs and not Also conservative like St. George, we're talking about, or some of the places of Spartan or whatever you've been to. We're here. But I've been to conservative places before and I know it's not like that because at the bottom line, this is still America. People have the right to exist how they and live their lives. But I think kind of going forward in what we see the country or what, honestly, just believing what these conservative governors and senators and representatives and mayors, what they're saying, I think people are just nervous for what we made, what our place, what our country in these super conservative places might become, not necessarily what they are right now, you know?
Jacob
Yeah, I think that that makes a lot of sense. I think a lot about people who live in Florida, which is a. Certainly a conservative hub. But Florida is also gay. Florida is gay. Every time I'm like, God damn, this is gay.
Monet X Change
You have Key west and Fort Lauderdale and Orlando and stuff. But I mean, I've spent a lot of time in, weirdly enough, in like Tampa a lot. And Tampa's also pretty gay too, but not pretty gay. But Tampa is not Orlando.
Jacob
Everywhere I go is gay.
Monet X Change
Tampa is not gay. Tampa is not Key West. Excuse me.
Jacob
Go ahead. I want to be one time in my life, though. You know, Key lime pie was invented in Key West. You don't like key lime pie?
Monet X Change
I fucking hate lemony limey desserts. I don't like a lemon tart. I don't like a key lime piece. I hate, I hate. I hate that taste. You like that?
Jacob
I love key lime pie. The original key lime pie did not taste like what you get at restaurants, though. Like when I was. When I was in Key West, I had key lime pie. And it's good, but it is a very different texture. It's not like custardy. It's a little more gritty. But it was so good. It was still very good, though.
Monet X Change
I also don't fancy a fruit and chocolate like a dark forest cake.
Jacob
No, I don't. I don't I'm not really a big. Well, I like chocolate covered strawberries.
Monet X Change
I do. I could do that, but like.
Jacob
And bananas and pineapples.
Monet X Change
Chocolate covered bananas are demonic.
Jacob
Have you ever had an Edible Arrangements with chocolate on it?
Monet X Change
Yeah, but, like. But I only eat the strawberries. I would not eat a chocolate covered pineapple. These are good.
Jacob
I like them.
Monet X Change
I think. I don't like citrus and chocolate together. Like, you know, people eat like, orange chocolate.
Jacob
Is it pineapple? A citrus.
Monet X Change
Yes, it is.
Jacob
I didn't know that.
Monet X Change
Oh, no, it's not. Is that citrus? I don't know. Maybe. This is.
Jacob
You sounded so. So. So is pineapple a citrus fruit? Pineapple is a tropical plant. That is Nate. Okay, that's not an answer. Is pineapple. Although pineapples have quite a bit of common with citrus fruits, they are not actually related to one another. No one can blame you for thinking otherwise. But it turns out that pineapple is not a type of citrus fruit. Not even a distant cousin. In fact.
Monet X Change
What other foods. What other foods do you not like?
Jacob
Little Thing was written in Yahoo. Say again?
Monet X Change
What other foods do you like? And he has a running list of foods. I don't like.
Jacob
Food that I do or like that.
Monet X Change
I don't like that you don't. What don't you like?
Jacob
I don't like olives. I don't like mushrooms.
Monet X Change
Okay, wait, hold on, let's see. Olives. I don't like olives either. And I do not like mushrooms. Although, Bob, there's a place in LA called Bevelle. They have these. And I don't like fuck with mushrooms. Andy ordered them and tricked me and he was like, oh, I dislike the fried chicken thing. I was like, we order fried chicken. He's like, yeah, these fucking mushrooms. They tasted like fried chicken. I was gagged.
Jacob
I don't believe you. Because I went to a restaurant one time and the lady was like, it was a vegan restaurant. And I was like, okay, I eat vegan sometimes. And the lady was like, oh, this is our new. I was like, I'll just have this. She goes, well, we have this protein or this meat substitute that's made from mushrooms. And I said, oh, I don't like mushrooms. She goes, no, it does not taste like mushrooms. I said, but it's made of mushrooms. No, I'm telling you, this tastes nothing like mushrooms. Like, everyone's always like, wow, this is made of mushrooms. And I was like, just to be clear, I really don't like mushrooms. Like, I genuinely do not like mushrooms. She's like, no, I'm telling you, this does not taste like mushrooms. I said, okay, I'm trusting you. I ordered it, it showed at the table. I ate it. I said, I gotta be honest, this tastes like mushrooms. And she goes, well, it's made of mushrooms.
Monet X Change
I was like.
Jacob
She's like, well, yeah, I mean, it's made of mushrooms. And I was like, see, I feel like you were advocating for how much it does not taste like mushrooms. And now I'm sitting here with a mouthful of mushrooms. And I'm mad at you, Bob, as.
Monet X Change
Someone who I do not. I do not like mushrooms in a boat. I do not like mushrooms with a goat. I don't like mushrooms either. I tasted this thing and I was like, now again, I know what fried chicken is, right? It is not. You're not gonna be like, oh, this is fried chicken. But the knowledge of knowing it was something different. I was like, but it was. It did take mushroom. Me. I was very shocked. And I hate mushrooms. I don't.
Jacob
Like, all triggered. I feel like I'm back in that restaurant over in East. Over on. In east la, sitting down, looking at this woman looking me in the face, swearing it would taste nothing like mushrooms. And then I. I sit here, and now I'm sitting here with a mouth full, riddled with mushrooms.
Monet X Change
Did you swallow riddle? Did you swallow it?
Jacob
Yeah. I mean, I had one bite, but I didn't finish it.
Monet X Change
It was like.
Jacob
It was like a breakfast spot.
Monet X Change
Do you like octopus?
Jacob
No.
Monet X Change
Me either. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, we're such platonic life partners.
Jacob
Or squid?
Monet X Change
I don't like squid. Mushrooms. I mean, squid, octopus, calamari, none of that. I don't like that.
Jacob
And I'm also not interested in eating your pasta with squid ink in it either. I'm not interested in that.
Monet X Change
Yeah, same. What about marshmallows?
Jacob
I like marshmallows.
Monet X Change
I don't. With marshmallows. I don't like marshmallows.
Jacob
I like the dehydrated marshmallows. I like the fluffy marshmallows. I like. I love. I don't get to do it very often, but I really enjoy toasting marshmallows and then peeling off the little thing, eating that and then toasting again. I really love that. I love a s'more.
Monet X Change
I could do more, but my ratio of marshmallow to chocolate has to be like four to one. I need, like, four chocolate for one marshmallow.
Jacob
No. Graham cracker, chocolate bar, marshmallow. Chocolate bar, graham cracker.
Monet X Change
I need Two chocolate bars.
Jacob
Grocer is incredibly thick.
Monet X Change
I need two chocolate bars. Smooshing the marshmallow. I cannot have too much or what I would do is I will cut the marshmallow into like a quarter and then have the two chocolates. I need to be like a marshmallow for me. I can't.
Jacob
I don't like s'more flavored things. I like s'mores, but I do not like s'more flavored things.
Monet X Change
What about the s'more flavored pop Tarts? Those were. I used to love those. Those pop Tarts were next level.
Jacob
You know, if your favorite pop tart isn't one of the fruit flavors, I don't trust your judgment on taste and stuff. If you tell me your favorite flavor of pop tart is cinnamon or chocolate, I love cinnamon.
Monet X Change
One I.
Jacob
Then I'm like, I don't think we're going to agree on a lot of things because, like, the best flavors of pop tarts are fruit. They're all fruit. The ones with the jelly, the cherry or.
Monet X Change
Or the. Or the blueberry.
Jacob
Strawberry.
Monet X Change
Can I tell you when things are flavored Tr. Strawberry or cherry, they taste the same.
Jacob
No, cherry tastes like medicine. Because if you, if you grew up, if you grew up taking Diamatap elixir, cherry, anything is. Is medicine. Everything that's cherry flavored is medicine without fail, every single time.
Monet X Change
I disagree. I disagree.
Jacob
I'm like, this, this is a. This is a diamond tap flavored pop Tart.
Monet X Change
Moving on. Do you like, do you like shellfish? Like scallops, mussels?
Jacob
I don't eat any shellfish.
Monet X Change
Okay. I don't. Oh, my God. I don't eat any shellfish. Except shrimp. I'll eat shrimp.
Jacob
I will have like a deep fried mini shrimp. But if it's jumbo, if the bread to shrimp ratio is a lot of shrimp and a little bread, I would eat popcorn shrimp.
Monet X Change
I like a popcorn shrimp.
Jacob
Okay, what is it but the coconut shrimp or the. Or the jumbo shrimp? No crab.
Monet X Change
No, I don't like crab either. But I would do a crab cake. That's because it's mixed with so many other things. Like, you're barely getting crab, but people that just eat, like, they go to the buffet and just having, like, fucking crabs.
Jacob
I've had a crab cake before. When I used to work at Ruby Tuesday, we had really great crab cakes. And I remember eating one being like, I don't love this. But everyone loved the crab cakes at Ruby Tuesday. I was like, okay, I'll try it. Also Ruby Tuesday had a great white bean chicken chili. They had a great white bean chicken chili.
Monet X Change
What about tomatoes?
Jacob
I like tomatoes when they are diced, not sliced. I do not like slices of tomatoes under any circumstances. I don't want it on my burger. I don't want it on my sandwich. I do not want tomato slices like cherry tomatoes in my salad. It can be diced. It has to be cubed, Bob.
Monet X Change
Like, I don't like them on the burger. I don't like them on a finger.
Jacob
I don't like sliced tomatoes. They have to be diced.
Monet X Change
I think Jacob was just listing things. So, okay, this is what Jacob has listed. Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise, sushi, ramen.
Jacob
Well, let's go. Let's go one by one. I do not like mayonnaise, like, at all. At all.
Monet X Change
How do you get lubricated? Oh, yeah, we talked about this, about you getting.
Jacob
Nor do I like aioli.
Monet X Change
Well, I just understand how you. What we talked about. So, okay, you were growing somewhere. You have a turkey and cheese sandwich. Where's the lubrication?
Jacob
We kind of eat a lot of. I don't eat a lot of deli meat. Like, I don't. I don't have cold cuts very often. I'm very rarely eating cold cuts.
Monet X Change
When you go to. When you go to. When you used to live in New York and you went to the deli to get a sandwich, you never got a cold cut sandwich.
Jacob
I always got breakfast sandwiches. I always got sausage.
Monet X Change
You never had a delica sandwich.
Jacob
I do not like deli meat. I mean, I don't dislike it, but I'm just not into deli meat. So I would usually get either a sausage, egg and cheese on a croissant or I would get a burger with fries.
Monet X Change
Okay, let's get into sushi. Can you do fucks with sushi?
Jacob
I like sushi, but I like vegetable sushi or California Rose. I'm a sushi wimp. I'm not that big chunk of when the fish is on top.
Monet X Change
Nigiri. Is that nigiri? I think that's nigiri or sashimi. Let's take a break. I'll tell you what I called you.
Jacob
We're gonna find out.
Monet X Change
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Monet X Change
Oh, but I only like salmon rolls. I'm not doing yellowtails. I'm not doing tuna rolls. I'm only having salmon rolls. Like a spicy salmon roll or different. What? There was that place in New York. I forget the name of it. It's called Mama something. And they used to do, like, the cool. No, it was up by me. It was like they would do, like, sushi rolls, but it'll be out of, like. Like burger meat and like, chicken and like pork belly stuff like that. It was like a new way to do it. It was like Dominican, Japanese.
Jacob
I'd probably eat that.
Monet X Change
Yeah, it was good. It was good.
Jacob
But I also love cucumber rolls and sweet potato rolls. I love vegetarian vegan sushi. I really like that a lot. No, and I'm really heavy on the soy sauce and the wasabi. Like, if you're not putting wasabi on your sushi, what are you doing?
Monet X Change
Yeah, a little bit of.
Jacob
Just a vehicle for me to eat wasabi and soy sauce. I.
Monet X Change
Well, that's the thing.
Jacob
I.
Monet X Change
That thing, that wasabi, when you put wasabi on something and then you get that kick when you. With that hot, spicy kick through your nose. Oh, that's like. I want. That's like ice in my veins. I love that feeling.
Jacob
That's stronger than Ivermectin.
Monet X Change
Let's talk about cheeses. Do you. With goat. What cheeses do you. Not with.
Jacob
I don't like brie.
Monet X Change
Agreed.
Jacob
I don't like soft wheel cheeses.
Monet X Change
Agreed.
Jacob
I like goat cheese. I'll have goat cheese.
Monet X Change
I don't fuck with goat cheese.
Jacob
I don't like cottage cheese.
Monet X Change
Don't like cottage cheese.
Jacob
But the cheese of cheeses is a sharp cheddar.
Monet X Change
Ah, a sharp cheddar is good. A sharp cheddar or a gouda. Gouda is also. Gouda is like cheddar's cousin.
Jacob
It's a little soft, though, isn't it?
Monet X Change
It's a little softer, but it has that same bite to it a little. But when I say softer, it's like the difference between your elbow skin and your. And your arm skin.
Jacob
I do love Blue.
Monet X Change
Blue.
Jacob
Your elbows. I do. I do love blue cheese a lot.
Monet X Change
I like a blue cheese.
Jacob
I like.
Monet X Change
I like. I don't like a feta. Feta is too salty. I can't eat feta cheese.
Jacob
I love feta cheese. Like. Like in. In a lasagna. You want a lasagna without feta cheese?
Monet X Change
That's not feta cheese in. That's ricotta cheese in a lasagna, bitch.
Jacob
Oh, ricotta.
Monet X Change
Y'all so passionate. You. This thing is so confident.
Jacob
Well, the idea of a. Of a. Of a lasagna without ricotta would be really crazy.
Monet X Change
Well, you know, here's the thing about. Cause, like, in my mind, Thanksgiving is such a specific, like, thing of food, right? But I guess Thanksgiving, based on your American ness or what your family is. Is different for everyone. Like, I guess some people will really be having lasagna for Thanksgiving.
Jacob
I've never had a lasagna for Thanksgiving.
Monet X Change
But I think if you. If you're an Italian family doing Thanksgiving, I assume there's lasagna, and there's more. Like, they're more into. They're not. They're not making collard greens and oxtails and shit, you know?
Jacob
Well, I don't. I don't. I don't know. I mean, I went to Jacob's Thanksgiving. They're not. They're not Italian, but they are white. And. Wait, did I go to your family's Thanksgiving? Did I make that up?
Monet X Change
I think you made that up. I don't remember that.
Jacob
I went to Passover. I went to Passover. Never mind.
Monet X Change
Yeah, and that's a different holiday, Bob.
Jacob
I know. I went to Passover. Have I been to someone's white house for Thanksgiving?
Monet X Change
I went to.
Jacob
We hosted Thanksgiving. We hosted Thanksgiving at our New York City apartment. So technically, you.
Monet X Change
That's a half white one.
Jacob
To be fair, we're not white, but.
Monet X Change
Half of y'all is.
Jacob
We're not white. You're white. You're white. But also, me and Jacob didn't cook anything. No, that's not true. I did make some great.
Monet X Change
Those fucking sliders, y'all. And if y'all know anything about Bob. Bob would not. Bob was unsettled until I had one of the sliders.
Jacob
Well, it was. All of the ingredients in the slider were delicious. It was a turkey, gravy, mashed potato slider. You want to be clear here? They're on. That's. They're out there. They're on the. Were they on Hawaiian Rose? I can't remember.
Monet X Change
They were. They were on Hawaiian rolls with turkey.
Jacob
Guys, this is delicious. Turkey gravy. Mashed potato.
Monet X Change
Why are you saying mashed potato?
Jacob
What are you on? Because I'm just invoking my. I was watching this video today of these, these on jubilee. Jubilees moved on from their political content and then. And they had one where they were doing five. You know, they do like, like odd one out where they, where they'll bring in like a bunch of Christians. But one person is not a Christian. You have to find who's not the Christian.
Monet X Change
I never.
Jacob
This time they had one where it was. They were trying to find out who is the black guy. It's a bunch of white guys. The concept is they're all wearing blindfolds and all you can hear is their voices. And you have to find out who is not white, who is the black person. But they're all blindfolded and they're all black. Everyone is black and they're all acting white. And that shit was sending me, sending me.
Monet X Change
Well, I mean, I think I have a pretty good. Sometimes I'm a pretty good guess of someone who. If they're black or white from their voice.
Jacob
Well, obviously these guys are affecting their voices. No, they're all trying to act white. Like it's five guys. The point of this is. The point of this is there's one person who's obviously pretending like the one person who will be like. So typically there has been one where they have a person who is. They have done it for real. And then the one black person is just acting white and trying to fool them. Or it'll be. It'll be five women and then one man, like one cisgender straight man or at least a cisgender man acting like he's a woman. But everyone's wearing blindfolds. Mikey, you have to just guess who the woman is.
Monet X Change
I think Mikey was at my house or something with Jacob. I think they were going to the beach for Andy's thing. And Mikey answered the phone and I was like, I wish I had Mackie's voice back when I had trade in my 20s. Mikey has been breaking away.
Jacob
Mikey has a very, very soft voice.
Monet X Change
Hello? And I was like, hello?
Jacob
Hi.
Monet X Change
Can I hear your voice? Can I hear your lady voice?
Jacob
I don't have a lady voice.
Monet X Change
Can you try?
Jacob
And I think ladies have voices like this. That's how you be very voice.
Monet X Change
You know what I mean?
Jacob
Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, I do know. And I'm clocking you.
Monet X Change
Do your. Do a high pitched voice of a typical afab person.
Jacob
If I was gonna do a lady voice, I'd do one of these. Hear lady voices. Cause I do believe that this is actually a voice that a lady would use or a lady would have. But a woman with an affected voice.
Monet X Change
That is bad for your vocal cords. Stop that.
Jacob
Okay. I have Mikey Grande here right now doing his woman voice for you. Hi. Didn't you just think Ariana Grande's performance.
Monet X Change
In the Wicked movie was just darling?
Jacob
Also, Mikey is just speaking. Oh, they're laughing.
Bob the Drag Queen
They said you're just speaking.
Jacob
Sorry, I'm wearing headphones. I'm realizing we were just talking about you. And if you want to follow Mikey, you can follow Mikey over on Mr. Grande. Over on. You're probably already following Mikey. Mikey has a ton of followers, so you're probably already following.
Monet X Change
Yeah, Mikey does. Mikey is Mikey is that girl.
Jacob
You think Mikey for us? But tell me we had some technical reason why we couldn't talk at the same time.
Monet X Change
Tell me.
Jacob
Let me hear your lady voice.
Monet X Change
My lady voice is like. More like this. I'm like, so, so, so. Okay. Back in there. Like, hey. Hey, Poppy.
Jacob
Hey, Poppy.
Monet X Change
What's up? Yeah, you want me to come over later? One time. All right.
Jacob
Why were you Puerto Rican? Why? Why was you Puerto Rican?
Monet X Change
My Puerto Rican cousin Bobby.
Jacob
No, because you have a New York. You're affecting a New York accent.
Monet X Change
No, I'm not.
Jacob
You're like, yeah, papi, you want me to come over or whatever? Like, come over, whatever.
Monet X Change
No, I'm not.
Jacob
You fully was Puerto Rican?
Monet X Change
No, I said, hey, what's up? What's good? You want to come over? Yeah. Does that sound feminine? Does that sound like a lady?
Jacob
You know, I don't have a good gauge for what sounds feminine and what doesn't, because I don't know. I can't tell anymore. Like, I genuinely have lost the. The ability to tell because I would. Like, that sounds like a lady's voice to me. And someone else would be like, that doesn't sound like a lady's voice. And I mean, in my mind, if I'm speaking this way, it sounds very. It sounds feminine. And sometimes women have deeper voices. But this is not. Like, obviously, this is much higher than my voice normally sounds. And if I'm going to have to affect a lady's voice, then I will change my cadence in the way that I speak, and I try to laugh a little more.
Monet X Change
Women always laughing.
Jacob
No, I think that women do often laugh to placate men so they don't get hurt. Yeah.
Monet X Change
Wow.
Jacob
I do believe that Women laugh so that men don't.
Monet X Change
You're right.
Jacob
So, yeah, a lot of times I will affect my voice in this way just to make sure if I'm. But I don't. I've never really had the need to try to do a woman's voice, but the truth is, I can't tell if this does sound like a woman speaking or not. I literally can't tell.
Monet X Change
You sound like a really nervous woman. You sound like. You sound like you're trying to rush a conversation. I'm not nervous.
Jacob
I'm really comfortable with you. My best friend is gay. My best friend is gay, and he watches RuPaul's Drag Show. I love that show.
Monet X Change
RuPaul's Drag Race, girl.
Jacob
Oh, RuPaul's. No, I'm sorry. RuPaul's Drag Race. I love that show. It's so good. Is it still airing? Is it still on?
Monet X Change
Is it still airing? It's literally the most successful, Emmy award winning show of all time.
Jacob
Oh, my God. That's amazing. I love that. Keep winning. Girl. Girl, you better slay. You're gonna be Diva Boots.
Monet X Change
Where is that from? Oh, popular.
Jacob
There's this.
Monet X Change
I think she's British, right?
Jacob
Yeah. Diva. It was like if wiki was written today. Diva Boots. You're gonna be Diva Boots. Honey, honey. Work, work. Sashay. Better cut Today. I can't remember her name, but type in Diva Boots and you'll find her on TikTok. She's very. She's. I can't vouch for how funny she is, but that one thing is very funny. So I can't be like, you're gonna love this content, but that one was very funny. I can. I can't vouch for that one. For sure.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Jacob
What are you doing?
Monet X Change
Andy's a knock on the door a second.
Jacob
What's your Thanksgiving dish? You're going to prepare for everyone?
Monet X Change
I'm not.
Jacob
I'm not the one that's gonna gag the girlies.
Monet X Change
I'm not doing anything. Andy and I were going to.
Jacob
I don't mean this Thanksgiving. I mean the one when you gag the girlies.
Monet X Change
Oh, Justin. Okay. I could make a really great macaroni and cheese. Really great macaroni cheese. Like, very good. You know Mark Lamont Hill? Well, he's a political. Not political. He's this. I don't know. He's a journalist. Really popular black journalists. See, like, he's so. He works at, like.
Jacob
I believe you. I just don't know him. I believe you.
Monet X Change
And he does this thing every Year. Like, what's the one thing that everybody loves at Thanksgiving that you don't. That you. You don't really with? And his macaroni and cheese. He doesn't like macaroni and cheese. I'm like, what? Who does? Like, everyone loves macaroni and cheese. Everyone.
Jacob
You know what really irritates me?
Monet X Change
What?
Jacob
When it's not macaroni, when it's like, penne or fucking tortellini, I'm like, this isn't macaroni and cheese.
Monet X Change
Yeah, this isn't.
Jacob
Macaroni is a kind of noodle.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Jacob
If you can't stick a feather in your hat and call it that, then it's not macaroni.
Monet X Change
I can't.
Jacob
No one goes stuck a feather in his hat and called it linguine. Yankee dude. That's not what they say.
Monet X Change
Well, imagine making macaroni and cheese with, like, a linguine. Diabolical. You should be executed now when you.
Jacob
Make a panee and cheese. Cause I will not call it Mac and cheese. It's quite delicious because it goes through the tunnel. Macaroni's a little too small for the cheese to actually get inside the noodle, but the actual, like, thick parts of cheese can get caught in the penne, which is quite delicious.
Monet X Change
Penne. What's the penne noodle? Oh, that's like the.
Jacob
No, the tubes that are usually cut on an angle.
Monet X Change
No, no. You got to use corkscrews. Because corkscrews, they go like this. So when the cheese melts in there, you get pockets of, like, cheese, like, inside the noodle. That's good.
Jacob
It's called corkscrew noodles.
Monet X Change
Corkscrew noodles. Yes. That's one.
Jacob
That's a silly. This doesn't sound Italian at all.
Monet X Change
Oh, there we go. Yeah. Where's the corkscrew?
Jacob
No, it's called ratoni.
Monet X Change
No, that's not. That's not. That's not what I'm talking about.
Jacob
That looks like a corkscrew, doesn't it?
Monet X Change
Yeah, but that's not what I'm talking about. The one. It's like. It's hollow inside. It's not just flat. It's hollow inside and go around.
Jacob
That's not flat.
Monet X Change
Jacob, can you scroll? That is flat. That's like. That's like a flat. That's like a. Like a fettuccine turn.
Jacob
Like, twisted corkscrew noodle. Hold on. Corkscrew noodles. They're called caledoni kalitani noodles. Yeah, they're called.
Monet X Change
Interesting.
Jacob
Is that what they're called? Or Is that the brand you're gonna be? Diva boots. I cannot. This. This is gonna be stuck in my head until the end of time. I've done myself.
Monet X Change
Okay, what's the dish you're making that will turn the girlies out? I know. It's called cavatappi Kabatappi.
Jacob
I can't cook, but I saw a recipe online for Mac and cheese, and I think that I can make it better than yours. I just saw one and I was like, I can make this, Bob, I'm.
Monet X Change
Not even gonna challenge you because at this rate, I'm going January. You. We're. You're busy. We're never going to do what.
Jacob
Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese can be made year round. It's not Thanksgiving food.
Monet X Change
I know, but we. All these things are stacking up, and we. With your kids and my kitchen, we're going to do them.
Jacob
We'll do it on Saturday when I get back. We'll do it. We'll cook on Saturday. On Saturday.
Monet X Change
Okay.
Jacob
A week from today.
Monet X Change
Okay.
Jacob
One week from today.
Monet X Change
And you think you can make a better macaroni cheese than me without breakfast? You don't even cook. I think I can, but you don't.
Jacob
But I think I can make a better Mac and cheese. I saw this recipe online and looked easy.
Monet X Change
And who's the. Who's gonna be the taste tester?
Jacob
Who do you want it to be?
Monet X Change
I think we get to. I think we get someone we know who'll be honest. What? She can't eat it? So. No, no, Kim. Kim is a food connoisseur. Kim's gonna be our taste tester.
Jacob
Kim would be good.
Monet X Change
Kim would be great. Naomi, Kenny, Dairy.
Jacob
We need three people. It can't all come down to one person. That could just be a matter of, like. I feel like we should bring vine back.
Monet X Change
Oh, are you flying her to la? Oh, no, she's here.
Jacob
We could also. Okay, we could have Zack. Well, Zack, no Towers. Kim Chi and a. So a white person, Asian person and a black person.
Monet X Change
We can get Marvin.
Jacob
We can get Amber. We can get Jasmine.
Monet X Change
We can get Day.
Jacob
We could have Day. Yeah. Well, no, I mean, let's. Someone who likes to do social media. Maybe. Maybe Jasmine.
Monet X Change
Amber. Jasmine. Yeah.
Jacob
Amber or Jasmine can come by and do it. So that way we're gonna have three people on Saturday. Monet.
Monet X Change
I don't need.
Jacob
I don't want to hear no backpedaling. I don't want to hear no I couldn't go shopping. I don't want to hear no I didn't have time.
Monet X Change
Well, let me look at the part. Just say yes. Let me see.
Jacob
I don't want to hear no. I got busy Saturday.
Monet X Change
The What? Saturday, the 30th. I fly back Saturday, so Saturday might be the 30th.
Jacob
Same. So what's the problem? Same.
Monet X Change
I don't think I get back till late.
Jacob
Same. And we're podcasting.
Monet X Change
We're podcasting on that day.
Jacob
I think this. I think this is the episode.
Monet X Change
No, we're gonna be. I was gonna do it virtually in the morning. Saturday or Sunday.
Jacob
You're already backing down.
Monet X Change
I'm not.
Jacob
She's backpedaling, your honor.
Monet X Change
Whatever.
Jacob
I can see the. I can see the fear in your eyes. That being said. And I make a pretty good stuffing, actually. I saw this thing online that was going viral, and people make White Castle stuffing.
Monet X Change
White Castle?
Jacob
Yeah. It's like this thing. People are like, why are. Why are white people making White Castle stuffing? Which I think some people online are just making food to make people angry. But I could see, honestly, everyone kept being like, it looks gross. I'm like, I could see this actually being tasty. It's just bread, meat. It's, like white.
Monet X Change
Like a White Castle burger. Like the contents of the.
Jacob
Yeah, you buy White Castle and you turn it into stuffing. And I was like, I like White Castle burgers. I could see this being. Being good.
Monet X Change
I mean, I like White Castle. Can we. Can we. Can I actually. No, I would. I would be into that, actually. That sounds good.
Jacob
Everyone kept acting like it was so great. I was like, honestly, this doesn't seem that bad to me. Everyone kept being like, this shit looked. I was like, I just don't know if it's gonna be that bad. It seemed like it might actually be. All right.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Jacob
Call me crazy.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Jacob
Calling me now.
Monet X Change
Oh, my God. Ms. Cleo. Didn't she die?
Jacob
She is no longer with us.
Monet X Change
Damn.
Jacob
And she wasn't really Jimmy Akin. I think she's from Austin, and she would. And I think she did some tax evasion or something.
Monet X Change
Cranberry sauce. I think cranberry sauce, in my opinion, is one of the nastiest things that is part of Thanksgiving. It's never been a tradition in my family to have a cranberry sauce. I don't like particular cranberry sauce. And people always say, oh, the ones that have the ridges on it from the can, that's the best one.
Jacob
I wouldn't call it the nastiest thing.
Monet X Change
Not for me.
Jacob
I don't particularly care for cranberry. Sauce. But I have added it, and it has a nice tartness. Making like it gives a real punchiness to your meal. But I don't mix in cranberry sauce, but I do aesthetically prefer the one from the can. I think it looks nicer than the bowl of slop.
Monet X Change
It's not slop. It's just a made cranberry sauce. What do you mean, slop? So you want. So you want the one that just standing there jiggling like this on the table?
Jacob
No, you cut it. You cut it, and it's laying, and you. You. It comes out of the can. You cut it into slices, and you pull a whole slice over to your plate. You don't. You don't. Everyone's not hacking at it themselves. You chop it up and then. And you can, like, either put it in, like, a spiral or something, and you pull a disc of cranberry sauce over to yourself. I think it just looks nicer than the. Than the bowl of Jell. O.
Monet X Change
It's not jello.
Jacob
I know, but it looks like. I know it's not slop. It's not Jello. It looks like a bowl of jello. It looks like a bowl of very thick jello that's been mushed up. So I'm like, put it in a. I think it looks better. I think the can looks better to me, in my opinion. And also, I will say this, too. Y'all might come for me for this one, but some of y'all cornbread is not good. And just give me jiffy. Like, if you're going to be out here making cornbread, that's not great. Just give me jiffy. I don't need. I don't need your family recipe. Like, it might only be good to your family. Now, there are times where there has been some genuinely good cornbread, but cornbread. And I don't think people are often talking about how often and how quickly cornbread can go south, because there are some very sweet cornbreads. Then they have some, like, more plain, then some savory cornbreads. I prefer a sweet cornbread.
Monet X Change
I did not grow up in a cornbread family. Only cornbreads I've had. Had been to soul food spots. So my family didn't make. I didn't grow up with. In a cornbread home.
Jacob
Do you like cornbread?
Monet X Change
I do like cornbread. I do like a good cornbread.
Jacob
And also you prefer them sweet or not?
Monet X Change
I don't have a preference either. Or. I've been to, you know, soul food spots that they do both. And as long as I just, like, I don't find a good food if it's gonna be good.
Jacob
So you've never had jiffy?
Monet X Change
I don't know if I've. I've had jiffy. I don't know where the places I've eaten it they made jiffy, But I know it's just cornbread. But I've never made jiffy.
Jacob
You know? I mean, you wouldn't, because you don't have. But if you have jiffy, you're like, this is jiffy. You're like this. You're like, no one can try to make. No one can give you jiffy and act like they made it. You can't act because jiffy is so specific. And also, I prefer that it not be in a pie tin, but in a muffin tin. I prefer to put a cornbread muffin over to my plate versus cutting up the triangle. It just feels nicer.
Monet X Change
Rectangle.
Jacob
Well, my mom. My mom would cook it in a circle, and you cut it in triangles.
Monet X Change
Got it.
Jacob
Because that's because we weren't making. There are only three of us, so we were not making giant pans of cornbread.
Monet X Change
Yeah.
Jacob
You know what I mean?
Monet X Change
I'm not a fan of collard greens. I don't like collard greens. I don't get it. I don't like it. It's just, like. It's just a warm green. I don't like collard greens. Never. Just not for me.
Jacob
You doing this thing that I've noticed happens a lot in restaurants, and someone pointed out to me, a black person pointed out to me, and now I cannot unsee it. A lot of times when a black person at the restaurant doesn't like something and you ask them why, they don't articulate why, they'd be like. And then they'll boil down to one final word, and they'll go, it's just nasty.
Monet X Change
It's nasty.
Jacob
And I need to know, is it salty? Is it cold? Is it, like. What specifically is it about?
Monet X Change
It's mushy. It's just like. It's just, like, mushy together. And it's like.
Jacob
That's a texture problem.
Monet X Change
I don't eat warm green food.
Jacob
So it's a texture thing.
Monet X Change
How about I eat, like, a warm spinach? I've had, like, a warm spinach salad. I think that's good. But greens, and they're tough. No, not greens.
Jacob
I mean, I don't like collard greens either. And my family apparently makes great collard greens. I can't vouch for them because I don't like them. But I'm gona tell you this. Say again.
Monet X Change
Have you ever tried them?
Jacob
Yeah, of course. Imagine if I didn't like them. I never tried some foods.
Monet X Change
I'm just like a texture. Looking at a texture thing. I'm like, I'm not gonna eat it. Like mussels. I'm like, I'm just not interested in that because they look like oysters.
Jacob
If there's something I never tried, I'm not interested in, I'll say I've never tried. But I wouldn't say I don't like it. I'll be like, I don't know. I've never had it. I'm not. It is. It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't speak to. Yeah. My family apparently makes great collard greens. I don't find them great because I don't like collard greens personally. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I do love a good neck.
Monet X Change
Bone, like the neck of the chicken or the turkey.
Jacob
I don't. I think it's the neck of a cow. Oh, I think it's the neck of a cow. But there isn't a lot. Thank you, Jacob. But there isn't a ton of meat on it. So you really. It's very little meat on the neck bone. Very little meat. So you can't get a whole lot of what it is. But it tastes. But when you get it, it tastes really good.
Monet X Change
Got it.
Jacob
And you know what I never see on Thanksgiving? Barbecue. I love barbecue.
Monet X Change
No, there's no barbecue on Thanksgiving. Barbecue. No, there's no space for that on Thanksgiving.
Jacob
But I want to see barbecue on Thanksgiving. I do. You ever had a deep fried turkey?
Monet X Change
No, but we need to stop acting. Turkey meat is not great. We just stop acting like turkey meat is great.
Jacob
The truth is, chicken meat is not great. Like, no one's eating chicken for the taste of chicken. You're eating chicken for the taste of what they put on it. Like, for example, there are people who eat steak because they like steak. They want the steak, they want a little bit of seasoning on it, but they want to eat that fucking steak. The same thing with mussels in certain fish. But when it comes to chicken, who just loves the taste of chicken, who's like, chicken is that girl. Like, if you. There are folks. There are a lot of people in the world who would eat an unseasoned steak. I don't think there are many folks who would eat an unseasoned piece of chicken?
Monet X Change
Yeah, that's a good point.
Jacob
And turkey is similar to that, but drier and thicker.
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm not a fan of turkey. You know, in Vermont, there are more turkeys than people.
Jacob
I did not know that.
Monet X Change
There are more turkeys than people.
Jacob
Interesting fact.
Monet X Change
Yeah. And there are more.
Jacob
In New York, there are more brown mice than people.
Monet X Change
Is that a real. Or you're just saying things.
Jacob
That's real.
Monet X Change
And in Vermont, there are more lesbians than turkeys.
Jacob
So lesbians aren't people?
Monet X Change
Not in Vermont.
Jacob
That's in. Bernie Sanders stayed. Boynie Sanders.
Monet X Change
Bernice Sanders.
Jacob
Boynie Sanders. What's one of your most memorable Thanksgivings you ever had?
Monet X Change
One of the most memorable Thanksgivings I had. I don't know. I think the one that we had at your house was pretty memorable, actually, with you and your fleet of pies.
Jacob
And Patty's mom.
Monet X Change
And Patty's mom. And us playing. Playing Quiplash involved. And I just put in with N word as many as we can. And the first time I came, she was like, oh, my Lord.
Jacob
Melinda Minor. That was a really fun one. And we. And we had. There was one straight guy there. We made him. We made him carve the turkey, and he was not good at it.
Monet X Change
Well, also, y'all, Bob just brought. We're like, oh. He like. He's like, I need, like, a turkey carver. So the Bob. Which again, is what it is for what the turkey cover Bob brought out is the one he used to make his fucking hip pads. I'm like, this just feels inappropriate.
Jacob
I watched it.
Monet X Change
So what? This is what I'm talking about. Everything has a purpose for me. I wouldn't. I would just. No, I don't have one.
Jacob
So we're not eating turkey.
Monet X Change
You think that a turkey carve is the only way to cover turkey?
Jacob
It's the best and fastest way.
Monet X Change
Yeah, but there are other ways. We were looking for efficiency. We're just looking to just get the job done.
Jacob
Also, the guy didn't know how to carve turkey. Evan did not know how to carve a turkey. So now we're going to give him a butcher's knife and a big fork. He already said he don't know what he's doing. I just put it through the washing machine. And also the washing machine.
Monet X Change
You throw it in the washing machine? That's crazy.
Jacob
I didn't have. I did actually have a washing machine. I meant the dishwasher.
Monet X Change
I just threw it in the washing machine.
Jacob
You know, I never Use that dishwasher. Until Jacob moved in, you would just.
Monet X Change
Wash everything by hand.
Jacob
Everything by hand. And then one day Jacob was like, you should use the dishwasher. I was like, use a dishwasher.
Monet X Change
Well, I'm very sad we won't spend our Thanksgiving together this year, but I hope next year can we start. Can you and I start as protonic life partners, a tradition next year to start spending our Thanksgivings together.
Jacob
I've already started. I've invited you to several Thanksgiving. I invited you to. I invited you to this one, actually.
Monet X Change
What's. What you doing this one?
Jacob
I'm going on a cruise. I invited you.
Monet X Change
I couldn't go to that, Bob. I had plans with Andy.
Jacob
I'm just saying I invited. I invited Andy too, which is crazy.
Monet X Change
Anyway, well, I hope you have a good Thanksgiving on your cruise. Would y'all? With y'all sad ass cruising in the holidays.
Jacob
I'll be doing a show on Thanksgiving.
Monet X Change
I'm happy for you.
Jacob
And I'll be at crew. I'll be at sea with Roz Hernandez.
Monet X Change
I like Roz Hernandez. She's fine. She didn't.
Jacob
So if y'all listening on the day this drops, I am performing. I'm probably pouring right now. In the middle of the ocean. Work in the. In the middle of the ocean.
Monet X Change
I love you very much and the next time I see you, Thanksgiving will be over.
Jacob
Get you some of these. You need some of these for Thanksgiving. Y'all don't do Thanksgiving without your tums. Tums. Tums.
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Episode Title: The One About Thanksgiving Food
Release Date: November 27, 2024
Hosts: Monet X Change & Jacob
Produced by: Sibling Rivalry & Studio71
In this episode, Monet X Change and Jacob dive into their personal Thanksgiving food preferences, focusing on the dishes they love and those they decidedly dislike. Monet sets the stage by introducing the theme:
Monet X Change [03:16]: "On this week's episode, we talk about foods we don't like."
The conversation begins with anecdotes about their day spent cleaning the balcony, which segues into discussing their meticulousness in the kitchen. Monet emphasizes her preference for organizing utensils, showcasing her organized nature:
Monet X Change [05:13]: "For me, everything has a thing. I have a spoon I use only for Colleen stuff. It’s like, the pet spoon."
Jacob shares his humorous struggles with cleaning tools like the Swiffer WetJet, highlighting the chaos that often accompanies holiday preparations:
Jacob [04:31]: "We kept having to pour water on the floor... trying to get the gunk up."
While primarily focused on Thanksgiving foods, the hosts naturally weave in their thoughts on broader political and social issues. Monet discusses online safety and expresses support for sanctuary states for queer individuals:
Monet X Change [15:56]: "California is making steps to be a sanctuary state for queer people."
Jacob complements the conversation by touching on data breaches and the importance of protecting personal information, emphasizing the relevance of online safety in today’s digital age.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the hosts sharing their aversions to various foods, interspersed with humorous stories and friendly banter.
Olives and Mushrooms: Both Monet and Jacob express their dislike for olives and mushrooms, sharing amusing experiences where these ingredients disrupted their meals.
Monet X Change [27:37]: "I don’t like olives either. And I do not like mushrooms."
Jacob [60:17]: "It's mushy. It's just like, mushy together."
Sushi and Specific Cheeses: They delve into their preferences regarding sushi, with Monet preferring salmon rolls and Jacob enjoying vegetarian options. Cheeses like feta and brie are notably disliked by Monet, while Jacob has a more varied taste.
Jacob [34:19]: "I like sushi, but I like vegetable sushi or California Rose."
Texture and Taste: The conversation often circles back to texture and taste preferences, highlighting how these factors influence their food choices.
Jacob [60:00]: "Is it salty? Is it cold? Is it, like... What specifically is it about?"
The hosts share their favorite Thanksgiving dishes, leading to a playful debate about who can make the best macaroni and cheese.
Monet’s Macaroni and Cheese: Monet proudly claims her macaroni and cheese as one of her standout dishes, emphasizing its taste and comforting qualities.
Monet X Change [49:08]: "I could make a really great macaroni and cheese."
Jacob’s Unique Creations: Jacob introduces his inventive turkey gravy mashed potato sliders, sparking a friendly competition between him and Monet.
Jacob [55:05]: "People are like, why are white people making White Castle stuffing?"
The duo plans future cook-offs, envisioning sessions where friends like Kim Chi and Jasmine can serve as honest taste testers.
Jacob [53:15]: "I saw a recipe online and I was like, I can make this."
Their banter underscores the camaraderie and fun they inject into their culinary adventures.
Monet and Jacob reminisce about past Thanksgiving gatherings, sharing funny and heartwarming memories that highlight their unique traditions.
Host-Led Traditions: Monet recalls a memorable Thanksgiving at Jacob’s New York City apartment, complete with games like Quiplash and communal cooking efforts.
Monet X Change [63:30]: "We hosted Thanksgiving at our New York City apartment."
Humorous Cooking Mishaps: Jacob humorously recounts a turkey carving mishap, where their guest struggled with the task, leading to playful ribbing between the hosts.
Jacob [55:03]: "People are like, why are white people making White Castle stuffing?"
Despite these light-hearted moments, their reflections paint a picture of a close-knit friendship enriched by shared experiences.
As the episode winds down, Monet and Jacob engage in their signature playful banter, discussing their Thanksgiving plans. Jacob mentions performing on a cruise, while Monet expresses her hopes for future Thanksgivings together.
Monet X Change [66:07]: "I love you very much and the next time I see you, Thanksgiving will be over."
Their heartfelt and humorous exchange encapsulates the warmth and friendship that define the "Sibling Rivalry" podcast.
"The One About Thanksgiving Food" episode of the "Sibling Rivalry" podcast offers listeners an entertaining blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and genuine conversations about holiday traditions. Monet X Change and Jacob's dynamic interaction not only highlights their individual personalities but also underscores the depth of their friendship. Whether you're preparing your own Thanksgiving meal or simply enjoying the banter, this episode provides both laughs and relatable insights into the complexities of holiday dining.