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1-800-contacts. My name is Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm Monet X Change. And this is simply rivalry. Hey, just. You guys know this is a quick trigger warning that we do discuss suicidal ideation in today's podcast and we talk about the existence of it. So just be warned, if that is a sensitive topic for you, please take care of your mental health. On this week's episode, we meet someone named Akeem and someone named Delmar.
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We talk all about the Internet and
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we find out what made Monet say this.
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The term meth head is not the same as calling someone a weed head. No one calls people a meth head. That is some shit you just made up. And we find out what made Bob say this.
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I was a waiter. So now you have something against people in the service industry. You're really elitist today. You are really on your elitist today.
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What do you mean you got. I mean, you're affected by the Internet every day. You're on Tik Tok, you're on Instagram, you.
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The comments, the comments. The comments had gathered me.
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Okay, so do you want to talk about like trolling specifically or want to talk about like.
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I don't think it's that trolling. It's more about how, like I said the other day, I said there are times I am not suicidal at all. But I can see why someone would be like, would read comments and be like, all right, that's good enough. That's enough reason for me.
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Well, yeah, the Internet is a very dangerous place. And obviously the Internet has given us great access and has given everyone access to lots of knowledge and to meet and see family and et cetera, et cetera. But there is a very dark side to the Internet, which I think we can talk a little bit later. Do you want to start off there, Bob? I was like, let's talk about how the.
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Well, you asked what I want to talk about. We normally discuss. But then I think Jacob was getting seen that there was some good content popping off. I was pouring out my soul, so he hit play.
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Pouring out your.
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So.
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Well, you can't care. You can't pour out something you don't have.
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Wow.
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Also, this new voice.
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This is my soul.
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This new voice.
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There actually was something in there.
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That's what you get. That's what you get.
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Can you give me a little towel, babe? Sorry.
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Can you get up and get your own towel? Jacob is the. Nice to get you a towel. You can get your ass up and get a towel.
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I got into a car accident today.
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Did you really?
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Yes. I'm so annoyed.
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Oh, my God.
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How.
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Okay. Oh, my God, guys, this is hotter. Depressive. This is a genuine reaction. Bob did not tell me this. I have no. I did not know Bob had anything. Are you okay?
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Yeah, yeah, I'm great. I was headed to the gym. I mean, honestly. Great excuse. Then I go to the gym.
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Bob, my little baby.
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I was headed to the gym. And I mean, you know, you don't have to say. Most accidents happen within like two miles of your house, bitch. I was literally in my drive. Like, I had. I wasn't even out of my driveway. Like, I was pulling out of the driveway and then me and someone collided. And then.
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So you. Yeah, give me a little more.
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I was pulling out. I was looking left and I didn't see anyone. And then I.
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Pulling out. But you never.
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Am I right, ladies? And then I feel the impact. I didn't even. I didn't even see this woman's car. I feel the impact. And there is a thing where in. In la. It is something I learned. LA is very hard to see around the cars that are parked on the street. Yes, that is very hard to see around them.
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That is true.
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So I hit. I was like, oh, my God. And then I was like. I looked to my right and then the lady had, like, pulled off. I gathered my hidden run something. I literally. No, she pulled off. Pulled over to the side.
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Okay, Sorry.
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Pulled over.
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Okay.
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So I. I gathered my information. My insurance. I literally just renewed my insurance policy too, because it just. It had just finished. And I just got my new insurance policy. I just put in the car literally last night. And I was like, oh, my God. I haven't even opened this envelope. I pulled my insurance out, and I walked over the car, and she was like. She was, like, crying and, like, really, like, visibly shaking.
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And I said, that just sounds.
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Oh, my God.
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That just sounds so dramatic. I mean, you didn't, like. You didn't, like, hit her car with a battering ram? She just, like, scraped you a little bit, right?
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And I said. I said, do you need. Do you need to sit down? Do you need to breathe in the bag? I'm just kidding. I said, do you need to. Do you need to sit down? I said, you know, I live right here. We can sit in the lobby of my building if you need to sit down. And she was like, I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna call my. My. My friend. And then she called her friend, and I said, okay. I said, you should probably take a picture of my. My insurance. Do you want to take a picture of my insurance information? And she was like, I just need. I just need a second. And I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna go ahead and call the insurance company and make a claim. So I called Progressive, and I made a claim, and then I came back, and her friend had showed up at the time, and he was kind of doing mostly talking. She was kind of shook up. And I was like, well, we should probably take each other's insurance information. So we took pictures of each other's licenses and license plates and insurance information, and then we took video of each other's car. We traded a little bit of information about each other. She stopped crying by this point.
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She stopped what?
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We. Crying. Okay, Crying. And then we kind of look at each other's. There were no. There were no witnesses. So I was like, do you want to recount the events to each other and see what happened? And then we. We both told pretty much the same story from. From each of our perspective. Of course, each of us were missing a little bit of each other's perspective.
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So y' all told this to each other?
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We told each other what. I was like, how do you. What do you think happened? And she told me that. I said, this is what I think happened. And we pretty much told the exact same story, but just missing each other's part.
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So whose fault was it?
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I don't know. And I'm definitely not gonna say on this podcast. That look crazy, but I told you what happened, and you all can come to your own conclusion.
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Well, you know, I have to say, you are a pretty safe driver. I'M a safe driver, too. I've never been in an accident. I've been driving since I was 20. I was. Since I was 19 years old, and I'm 31 now. That's 12 years. I've never had an accident before.
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I got in one accident when I was 19, and this is my second accident. I am 35 years old, and these are the only two accidents I've ever been in.
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Wow.
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So. And when I was 19, it was 100% my fault. Like, without a shadow of a doubt was my fault, Bob.
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Okay, well, actually, what happened was I
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said, when I was 19.
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Yes. And listen, the litigation, the prosecution gonna say, oh, well, when you were 19, and correct me if I'm wrong. Is this footage from Sibling Rivalry podcast and one about. We don't know the title yet. When you said this. Play the tape.
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Click.
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When I was 19, it was 100% my fault. That's what's gonna happen.
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Yeah. When I was 19. Well, I was. Okay. I was 19 years old. I think if they're trying to use information from 16 years ago, which is how long ago that was, by the way.
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Bob.
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What?
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That's how prosecution works.
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Okay. Now. Now you're Monet Xane, Esquire. So. So what happened back then was I was. I had. It was. It was five lanes of traffic. Oh, it's a big highway of the. And I was. It wasn't even a highway. It's just a. It's just like a big. Actually, it's a highway, but it's the main. It's called Macon Drive. It's the main street in Columbus, Georgia.
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Okay.
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Like the main drag.
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Okay.
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And Express Parkway is also pretty big, too. But. But Macon Drive is huge. So there's five lanes. There's lane, lane, turning, lane, lane, lane,
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right lane, lane, turning, lane, lane, lane. Oh, so two oncoming, two outgoing turning
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lane in the middle and then a turning lane.
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Got it.
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So I'm. I'm pulling up, and then, you know, traffic has stopped. So we're close. We're pretty close to the red light, actually. We're pretty. Pretty close to the red light. And then the car here stopped. The car. The car. The first lane to my left has stopped and is like, hey, come on. Come on through. Just go. And I go. Great. I pull through. Well, the person in the lane next to him did not consent to me. He did not consent to give up
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his right of way.
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So I started pulling forward because I'm 19 and someone says, go. So I go, sure, I pull forward. And then I hit the car that was coming, and I t boned them.
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Damn. Ooh. I t boned Bitch. When you t boned somebody, it is your fault. You're done. It was like when you. When you t one someone, when you hit someone from the back, those are when they're like, it's you, babe.
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So we traded insurance information. I didn't go to the gym, and I can only.
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Okay, so y' all know when Bob is in stressful situations? Bob gets. Bob takes his hands. His hands get up here. He's like, oh, my God, I can't. So Bob gets so stressed. Were you stressed out, baby, this morning with this little accident?
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No. I walked up to LA and I was like, hey, do you need. I said, do you need some water? Do you want to sit down? Do you need a place to sit?
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No, I'm saying when you went back upstairs to tell Jacob, I'm like, jacob?
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It was at me and Ezra's place.
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Oh, got it.
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And Ezra was asleep.
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Wow.
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He's like, did you go to the gym? And I was like, I did not. I got into a car accident.
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I can't believe that you and Blair Sinclair got into a car accident this morning. This is crazy.
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Why would it be, player?
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She sounds very delicate. Like, Blair, she needed some water. She was. She was out of breath. She needed to sit down.
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I think the lady was kind of delicate, but her friend showed up, and I think that he helped her out a lot, and they both worked together. She's a teacher.
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How old was this lady?
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She looked to be about my age.
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Okay.
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Actually, I have a picture of her driver's license. I can tell you exactly how old she is. Actually, hold on one sec. Give you this lady's exact age. She was born in 1984. She's a little bit older than me.
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And what's her address?
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So she started. Oh, my God. You're ridiculous. She's 184, which means she is. If I'm 35.
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37. Yeah.
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And she just had a birthday.
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Wow. So she really. Wow. So you were. You're. You're really just raining on the end of her year. It is a holiday season.
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And she also. She also said I had a real. She said, it's been a really rough week. It's been a really rough week.
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Well, I am currently in Midland, Texas, which is next to Odessa, Texas, which you are. You remember this? Did you watch Heroes back in the day?
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Mm, I love Heroes. Do you remember Save the cheerleader, Save the World.
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Yeah. Do you remember the significance of Odessa.
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I do not.
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Odessa was where the cheerleader lived, and that's where the little paper factory was at Odessa, Texas.
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I performed in Odessa. Really?
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Kylie. Kylie said that too. And she was like, girl,
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I performed Odessa. Back before I did drag. I did children's theater in Odessa. They call it Slow Deatha.
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Yeah, it's very that. I mean, honestly, when I come to small places like this in America, like. Cause when you see, like, some videos
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and stuff, and people are like, yeah, Odessa's not tiny. Odessa probably has a population of probably 20,000 people.
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Well, I said. I said, I'm in Midland.
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What's the population of Odessa, Texas?
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I said, I'm in Midland, Texas. I said, next to Odessa.
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I know. Say it again. We get it. You're in Midland. Congratulations.
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Well, you're the one putting words in my mouth. You said Odessa is. I literally never said that. Anyway, when I'm in small towns like
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this, you're very confrontational. You are very confident.
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You don't want. You don't want.
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Midland has a population of138,000.
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That's a small town compared to New York City.
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Wow, You New Yorkers. Oh, so, so, so is everything compared to New York City now? Every town is compared to New York City.
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Is that how. Comparing it to my experiences in New York City?
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But the barometer of a small town is if it's not as big as New York City, it's a small town to me. Oh, my God, that's not a good barometer. I would say Midland is a small town or a big town, but I don't think that if it's smaller than New York City, that leaves like. That leaves, like, six cities in the world that aren't small.
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Well, I don't make the rules.
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I just, you know, so just Beijing, Mexico City, Tokyo, everything else teeny tiny.
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So when I see. When I come to places like this and there's not, like, much going on, when, like, you know, it makes so much. It didn't make sense to me before when people are like, I just had to get in my small town because I wanted, like, bigger this and that and the other, I'm like, I could see why you'd want that living in a small place like this.
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Yeah, I mean, I grew up in a small. I grew up in a lot of small towns, and it is. It certainly leaves something wanting. You know, it leaves you longing for more, so to speak. So I understand the desire to live in a big town. I mean, obviously, I moved From Columbus, Georgia, to New York City. Because I wanted something bigger.
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Yeah, you dragged your ass from Columbus to New York City because you knew that New York City was that girl, that she was that girl. Always will be that girl. She is that girl.
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I didn't drag myself. I got on a plane.
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Did you drive at some point? You drove at some point?
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No, I flew to New York City.
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What is that story about? You were going through the tolls. How did you have a car?
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This was before I lived in New York City.
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But did you drive that time?
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This is when I was. I did drive that one time, but I didn't drive to New York City. I was. When I've driven in New York City, I didn't drive to New York City. I was in Brooklyn. I drove to Staten Island. I didn't drive to New York City. I was driving in New York City. I landed at LaGuardia Airport on August 24, 2008 at 9:34 in the morning.
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So she flew in. So she was rich. Rich. She got.
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Flew down to New York, to LaGuardia. A plane ticket to LaGuardia. It also cost me all my money. I landed with. It took half my money away to fly to New York City, work. I landed with $500.
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That's wild.
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I think I might have had 700. 700, 500, which is not enough money to make it in New York City.
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I mean, in 2008. It's a little better than if you landed now with 700.
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Yeah, a little better. I mean, take it for someone who did it. It was not great. I don't recommend anyone else do it that way. It was 10 out of 10. Would not recommend you go to New York City with 500. I also got kicked out of my apartment. I got fired from. It was. It was a rough day. It was like the lady I ran into, I had a rough week.
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So wait, so the police never came?
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So here's my thing, and I meant the lady that there was a collision with. I didn't say I ran into her, but the lady whose car touched my car.
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So I didn't know that you could dismiss yourselves if the police don't show up. So y' all can just be like, we're cool. There's no police report, no nothing.
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I mean, if we wanted, we could have both been like, honestly, let's just not do anything. Let's just both shake hands and leave. We could have done that if we wanted, but we traded insurance information, and then we parted ways.
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Got it. Okay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But since when are you into Telfair?
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Telfair? Clearly you're not into Telfar at all.
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Telfar.
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Oh, my God. Are you embarrassed?
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Well, you know. No, that's. Telfair is a close friend's middle name. That's why I got. I just thought about that.
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Oh, yeah. Who's the friend?
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Who's the friend?
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We'll call him. Which one? Which one?
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Dumb Telfair.
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Is it Tizlarm? Telfair?
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Someone's middle name is Telfair.
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Is it Kamika? Telfair?
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No. Kameka's middle name.
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Is it Dejuan? Telfair.
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Dejuan's middle name is not Telfair. His middle name is Marquis. Do you know all your friends middle names? Do you know. What's my middle name?
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I don't even know your middle name on there.
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Wow. You don't know my middle name.
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Hakeem.
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It's not Hakeem.
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Akeem. What is it?
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Yeah, if it's not Akeem, Bitch, don't be adding. Don't be adding vowel sound. My shit is Akeem, not Akeem.
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You're doing too much. You're doing too much.
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I'm Akeem.
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Your middle name's Akeem.
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It's Akeem, not Akeem.
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Oh, my God. You're assaulting me. You're assaulting me.
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Assaulting you. I know you're a little crunchy little middle name.
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What is it?
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Old CDC Ass. Old cdc in the face ass. Name? Christopher Delmar Caldwell.
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My name is Delamar.
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That's what I said.
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Not Delamar. It's Delamar.
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No, it's not. You fucking.
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My middle name is Delamar. It's D E L A M A R. Delamar.
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Well, when you told me, you told me, I heard Del Mar. I didn't know Delamar.
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My middle name is. My name is Christopher Delamar Caldwell.
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Do you. Does Jacob have a middle name?
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Jacob does have a middle name.
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What is it?
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Alex?
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Is it Alex?
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Jacob Jacob Alexander Ritz. I know all y' all middle names.
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Do you know Patty's middle name?
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Patrick? Scott.
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Scott. Does Mateo have a middle name?
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Well, yeah. Well, Mateo's name isn't even Mateo. His name is Matthew.
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Really?
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Yeah. Do you even know your friends?
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Is Mato just like a stage name
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or it's like an Italian version of Matthew? Mat.
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I know, but like, when he's like, okay, never mind.
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His legal name is Matthew, but everyone calls him Mat. His whole family, everyone calls him Mat.
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Got it?
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And some. Some people Call him Potato.
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Potato. I love potato. He smell of potato. Potato man.
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And do you know Nick's middle name?
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Smith.
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Yeah. Yeah. Nick Smith. Smith. All right, let's take a break. I'll tell you when we get back.
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Okay, we're back. Listen, if Nick's middle name was Smith, I would not be surprised. If Nick's name was Nick Smith. Smith, that wouldn't be shocking. Allen.
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Yeah.
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Not Nick. Allen. Smith. Nas. Nas. Not Nick. The original Nas. Nas.
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Nasty. Nas. To Esco. To Escobar. Now she is Nicola Smith. I don't know Naomi Smalls's middle name.
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I don't think she has a middle name.
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Davis.
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I never.
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Jarquavius.
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Not Jarquis. Jarquavius is not Jarquavius.
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Who's a wild place?
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The Internet.
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Oh, the Internet is. Is very wild, Roberta. And you call.
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Are we better because of the Internet or are we worse off?
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I think it's a push and pull, give and take, ebb and flow. We gotta take the good with the bad. I think both of them exist.
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You think it's 50? 50?
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I feel like it is. There's a lot of bad things on the Internet. The Internet is very bad. The Internet can be very toxic. The Internet has caused many people to either be killed or take their own lives, et cetera, et cetera. So the Internet is a very bad place. But adversely it's the great things.
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Like what? Can you name some of the great things? Is this the roast of the Internet? Can you name some of the great things about the Internet?
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Do you remember? Do you remember? Do you remember like Craigslist? Craigslist, Remember the Craigslist killer? He killed like over 80 people just going on the, on the Craigslist profiles, finding them and then fucking murdering them.
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I mean, he didn't do it old school like Jack the Ripper.
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Jack the Ripper was like Victorian, right? Not Victorian.
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He was lived in London and it was not quite Victorian. It was. I think it was the 1800s. I'm pretty sure Jack was like the 1840s maybe. I think he was prolific.
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Yeah. Yes. Not prolific. I don't know. Is prolific the right word? Isn't prolific a positive thing?
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I don't think prolific has to be positive. Also people always get mad when I look up the definition of words. Why do people hate that? People be like the Merriam Webster will be Bob's downfall. Present in large numbers and quantities. Prolific. 1888. I was 40 years off. 1888.
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Yeah.
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So you was wrong when they thought it was Victorian. So I'm really crushing it over here.
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Yeah. So the Internet has best of bad things, but like we said, many good things. How do you feel about the Internet?
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You know, I think the Internet is a net positive. What? Jacob has something to say. Technically, the Victorian era ended in 1901. So when it was right.
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So Monet was what? Right?
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Congratulations. I think that the Internet is.
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Wow. No, say you're so smart, Monet. You're the smartest person I know.
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I don't subscribe to that. And I don't know that you accidentally knowing when the Victoria era ended makes you the smartest person I know.
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Okay, fair.
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It's like, how much do you know about the victory? Like, do you know when it started? I don't know when it started. Do you know when the Victoria era started?
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Yes. 1790 something. The Victorian era. It did. The Victorian era.
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I just love when you start saying stuff. I could tell you're making stuff up.
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The Victorian era. No, the Victorian because. Because it's. The Victorian era started like mid classical music era. So like classical.
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Can we get silence on? We have that. Kim Possible one more time.
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Oh, wait, no, no, wait.
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17. 1790 something.
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Wait, hold on, wait. Baroque, classical, romantic.
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Yeah, your mental. Your mental bank is baroque right now. Bitch, you about to go baroque trying
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to figure this out. 18. I'm gonna say 1820s, not 19 is. It'd be 1820s.
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1790 something. Now you're going to 1820s.
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Because I made a mistake. Because I was saying. I was saying. Oh, it started like. It was like mid Romantic era, but no, Baroque Victorian was a little towards the end of. Towards the end of romantic, which would be. I want to say 1820s.
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I think I.
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What do you say, bitch? What do you have to add? Bitch, do you have anything to add?
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I'm fully guessing, by the way, and I think it was the 1600s. I think the 1600s were the start of the term.
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No, Victorian. No.
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Dicko. What's the answer?
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No. No way.
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The Victorian era. In the history of the United Kingdom, the Victorian era was the period of Queen Victoria's reign from 1837 until January.
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Booyah.
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When you also gave monet. You gave five answers.
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No, I said 1820. I literally said 1890. I said 1790 something. I was like. Wait, wait, no, no, no. 1820 something.
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You said baroque romantic music.
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I was saying the music.
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Ludwig von Beethoven, Basquiat.
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Cut to. Cut to this bitch. Rewinding back into fucking. To the fucking Gregorian chant era. Talking about. Oh, yeah, Hildegard of Bingham in 16. Whatever. No, bitch.
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I don't know a lot about the Victorian area, so I was. I was all guessing completely on conjecture. So I do not know. You seem to know no more about British folks than you know about American people.
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Girl, you know I'm British. I tell you this every time I talk about it.
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I'm a little British. Yeah, right. Yeah, there you love a little bit of British in you, mate. I just don't understand why the gas just. But yeah, I think.
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When did you start using the Internet? Oh, go ahead.
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I think the Internet is. Is a net positive. I think we get more. More good out of the Internet than bad, but it's so hard to regulate, even though we try. I remember using the Internet, I had a compact computer. I don't know if they still make them. C O M P A Q. Oh, my God.
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Compaq. Yes.
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At a compact comeback desktop computer. And we used to go to the Walmart and they would give you these. These discs, like Net. Net Gear, I think it was called. And you. Yeah, you could use the Internet for like a week, but then you had to, like, re. Register. So you have like a Netgear. Had One. AOL had one. You're like go between all the service providers and you have Internet for one week. And I would log on and all we would do is we'd go to. I would go to the like chat rooms. AOL chat rooms.
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And that was like, my God, AOL chat rooms, bitch. That was a, that was a breeding ground of fucking indecency. Like do you, did you use AOL chat rooms a lot?
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Yeah, almost every day.
C
Yeah, like they like. I used to chat with other people my age allegedly. But then come to find out like after all these like exposes and things like that how like they. Oh God, my camera. There would be like people pretending to be a certain age. When they were fully. They were like, oh yeah, I'm a 17 year old. You remember ASL, I'm a 17 year old male living in South Dakota. Come to find out, bitch. It's like a 57 year old dude living in fucking Pennsylvania and asking you like what you do in school today?
B
You know, I was weird opposite. I was acting like I was way older than I was. I would be a 35 year old woman, I would be a 27 year old man. I would be. But I would never be a seventh grader. I wanna talk to no fuckin. I taught seventh graders at school all day long. I wanted to be an adult.
C
No. Kameka and I used to. All our friends used to do AOL chats and we'll do little groups and stuff on there. So we were all our age and stuff also back then I remember thinking, oh, everyone can. They know who I am. In my mind, like I was getting on the Internet.
B
They all know me, honey. I'm fucking Kevin Akim.
C
Because in my mind like when you, like in my mind when you logged on for you from your computer, like your, your identity was there. Like in my mind. That's where I got the thing of having like my fake birthday because I don't want people to know my real birthday.
B
Yeah, I, yeah I, I did go into, I would be my own age when I would go into like Nickelodeon room. I would, I love to go into Nickelodeon chat room. Nicole had a great chat rooms. Yeah, I would go into Nickelodeon chat rooms and I would my age there. Whenever I go into other chat rooms, like dirty ones. I mean they were meant to be dirty, but I would just try, I would, I would. We all. And they all ended up becoming dirty. You'd be in like a little room with a little room within a room. And also back in the day, this is why A lot of older people have those really ridiculous email addresses, because back in the day when I remember when you logged in, they used to be like, do not put anything about yourself in your email address. Don't have your name. Don't have where you're from. Don't have the year you were born. It should just be so. People have names like, I love musicol.com or like musical theater queen@aol.com and I had a name like that.
C
Or people would always put like, their birthday, their birth year.
B
I was told you don't put anything away. You don't put your birth year, your name, where you're from. Don't put your name, your city, or your age in your email address. And then of course, we found out online, people were like, no, your email address is unprofessional. You need to have your name in your email address. So start, start switching, right? And you know, there seems to be a. The Internet gives you an anonymity that is really powerful. And they. That people feel like they can really do and say anything. Because there's no bitch, there's no. You don't have to be held accountable.
C
Anything they want to, people will come out to you in a way that they would never respond to you or talk to you in real life. And to me, that's the most annoying part of the Internet. It's like, bitch, you have so much to say, but you would never speak. You would never speak to anyone like this. You're just hiding behind an egg fucking not emoji. What you call it avatar. You're hiding behind this pink and green background thing, but you would never talk to anyone like this. And that's the most upsetting part about the Internet.
B
You've never been mean to anyone on the Internet ever. Just like, nasty.
C
Oh, yeah, I sure have. But not like unwarranted. Like, I wouldn't go on fucking Joe Jonas Instagram and say, you fucking stupid fucking bitch. I hate the fact that you wore green in that outfit, you fucker. It'll be like when I had arguments with people, they were either my friends I argued with online or someone I know, like a. But I would never comments on someone I don't know and be like, you stupid piece of shit. Fuck you.
B
I'm so glad you mentioned that because I have some old tweets I want to read to you. Just kidding. You know, the fans are going to.
C
I didn't even use Twitter.
B
You know, the fans are going to like, rake your social media to find any instances of oh, my God.
C
Please.
B
Anything mean now, right?
C
Please. Y' all are more than welcome to. And again, if they are doing things like today. I tweeted, I retweeted. I reached with a Bob's thing today about me doing the smash thing. I was like gonna. I am gonna Mollywop this bald black bitch for charity. But Bob is my friend. That's not some random person. I'm just.
B
What about this one nigga? Shut your ass the fuck up. Use your platform and talk about what the fuck you want. Why you waiting? Did you use why you waiting? Did us to use words for you? There's a typo there. Are you that dense?
C
How you got nerve? The queen of.
B
How well do you know Damande?
C
Oh, after Deande dragged me. You talking about that? We are RuPaul's bootlicking Negro monkeys. Yeah, that's why I came after him.
B
Did you read Demonde's response?
C
What did he say? What did he say?
B
He said, I knew Stuttering Stanley's old whack ass would come out of the blue, ignoring my point and talking that bullshit. Bitch, you are whack as fuck.
C
I didn't even see that.
B
Oh, my God, that is so good.
C
I know.
B
Stuttering Stanley's whack ass would come out of the blue, ignoring my point and talking that bullshit. Bitch.
C
Oh, yeah, you and Damonte had a whole thing going on her. He said you. He said, Bob, you have strong opinions about the sun rising and other randy topics, but you have nothing to say about this. I get you on the peril, but you can't have your own opinion. It's okay.
B
Well, I will say the sun. I will say the sunrise does affect my day more intensely than Maddie being a.
C
Take your energy to your slave master. Ho. Stop letting just anything happen. You sell out, bitch. Who devontae was really going in, huh?
B
Then De Monday said something one time. He was like, just remember when all the Bob's white fans attack me. Wait, I gotta find it. It's like crazy because we gotta take a break now. All right, we gotta take a break. I'll find and read to you after the break.
C
Already?
B
We're just having. We're having too much fun. Mona.
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B
All right, we're back. I can't find the the tweet anymore, but it was basically something like, just remember that when, when all of Bob's white fans attacked me, that ashy ass nigga attacked me first.
C
Not that ashy ass nigger, but.
B
But I also was like, but also my fans. Oh, he wrote we don't. Oh, we don't acknowledge Monet exchange Win in Drag Race. That bitch was weak. Trinity down. I I didn't realize that he had been tweeting with us for like several days. I didn't realize it. It went on so long.
C
I didn't see that either.
B
Lmao. Monet Exchange Bobby drag queen box face asses woke up mad. Ha. And then, oh, just remember when all of that one queen's white fan followers come out of nowhere to drag me. Remember that ashy face got violent first. But also I kind of want to, I want to tweet and be like, so did they ever come? Like, did all the people come and drag you like you predicted? But it also, like, it never. I think that maybe that person was really interested in having some sort of a discourse like that online because they, I mean, they seem to really be interested in dragging it out quite a bit.
C
Well, the reason why I normally don't, I only engage in that because I saw you and him going back and forth and you know, I always tend to chime in when you're going at it with somebody. But I normally don't engage because they just. Because no one will ever see their tweet. Like, when you tweet me something nasty, no one will ever see it until I respond.
B
That makes sense.
C
It will literally be.
B
Sometimes I wake up and I'm in the mood to fight and I'll be like, let's fight then. Okay, you know what? We can fight. I'm in the mood today. Let's fight. We can fight you and I can do this today. And sometimes I'm just like, girl, it's whatever. Like, the other day when I called you, it was like, girl, whatever. But that day, I was like, you know what? I was. I was actually in the audience at a friend's show, and I was like, you know what? I can fight. Let's fight.
C
You like to fight, Bob, you are. You are definitely. You like to fight.
B
You're a fighter sometimes. And other times, I'm kind of like,
C
bob, you always like to fight.
B
Not always. That's not true. That is not true. That is not true. Like, when I called you the other day, I was like, I'm over it. When I called you then I was like, girl, these people are crazy about.
C
Give me a hint.
B
I called you and I called you, and I literally said, I'm not suicidal. But I get why people read the comments and go, all right, that's my 13th reason.
C
Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it, got. I got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God, not my 13th.
B
And also, we should probably discuss. We should. We'll put a trigger ring on this episode that we discuss suicidal ideation. But, yeah, sometimes I wake up and I'm like, I want to fight. And sound. Wake up. I'm like, girl, it's not worth it. I'm not in the mood today because I realized that what's happening is there are people online making comments about you, but they also don't know, like, when I say anything about you, they don't know anything about you. They really don't know anything. They know nothing. But they're like. They're really surmising and. And engaging in conjecture and assuming a lot based off of, like, one post that you've made, which is interesting because I do think that you and I, especially. Especially you and I. When you're a public figure, and if you're a public figure with a podcast, it's based around your opinions and thoughts and feelings, then a lot of your information is out there in the world. Like, it's not like that is. It's not like they can't figure out if they want. If they didn't want to. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, but they. But. But it's also easy to just jump to a conclusion, though.
C
What I also think is also, like, it really is the thing of. You cannot please everyone. So, like, I have my opinions about what I have, and it's gonna upset someone. Someone is gonna disagree. But sometimes people take that. This. That disagreement, and they want to be that it makes them very angry that you don't think, like, the fact that I don't like Applebee's. Someone will take that and be like, you don't fucking like Applebee's. Like, what kind of trash ass fucking bitch doesn't eat Applebee's? And people get so angry about your opinions when you have a podcast on your public favorite, like, what's it. Oh, there's something with Khloe. Shade room posted this thing about with Khloe Kardashian. So Khloe Kardashian. Well, the Kardashians, they went to the People Choice Awards, and Halle Berry accepted some award for something. And then right when Halle Berry is giving her, like, acceptance speech, the camera cuts to Chloe, and Chloe is just has a normal, like. Like you and me right now. And she was, like, adjusting her hair and bitch. The Internet went off on her. You fucking miserable, white fucking bitch. Why can't you be happy for Halle Berry winning her award? You just. You just want to be black. You never be black. Fuck you. Don't you ever? And she was like, I was just fixing my hair. I don't know if the camera was.
B
She responded.
C
Yeah. She tweeted back, I'm fine. I'm about to find a reading.
B
What's her name? Khloe Kardashian.
C
Khloe Kardashian.
B
Khloe Kardashian and Halle Berry. I'm Kardashian.
C
She, in the shade room, posts too many things a day. This happened, like, the other day. It's. Or I already can't find it.
B
Yeah, I can't. Clerk audition. Slap with a lawsuit involving Bella Hadid.
C
Nope.
B
Chloe. Nope. Okay. I can't. The video doesn't seem to be popping up for me.
C
Well, in the shade room. Are you in the shade room?
B
I would just look. I was trying to find just the video.
C
No, we have to read this. Like, it is, like, a prime example
B
we're talking about, but, I mean, I
C
should have saved it.
B
Typically speaking, people's opinion. Oh, Chloe spelled with a K, huh?
C
Yeah. K, H, L, O, E. Roberto.
B
That's right. They're all K's.
C
Oh, my God. You are the worst.
B
Well, I don't know the. I don't know them like that. The. The Kardashians like that. Not like, in a way, like, I don't know them. Like, I just don't. I've never seen the show before for. I think that, typically speaking, most people who have really strong, like, I don't think that people get really that upset over, like, opinions as simple as, like, oh, you don't like Applebee's. But if people feel really strongly convicted in something, like, let's say, for example, how you feel about a certain person. Like, for example, when it was. When we were going through our thing with Tamisha and the Vixen, people felt really strongly about that. I think also because they were. There was also act like people would, you know, take race into consideration, which is really interesting when it's a conversation about. Amongst black people. But. But I don't think that it is impossible to. To have really messy thoughts and opinions about that when dealing with black people, but with black people. Fight arguing with black people. But I do think it's more intense than just like, you don't like Applebee's. It's more like accusations.
C
Like, well, yeah, I was being a little hyper. Being a little hyperbolic, Bob.
B
But it does. But it does affect me sometime negatively when I think when people say stuff like. Like when, like you're online and someone's like, Bob hates black people or something, and I'm like, what? Or. Or like. Or like, because you saw that this happened with you when they. When. When there were accusations that you ignore all the black people who come to your meet and greet, that could. I can see why that is really upsetting.
C
Yeah. Because it couldn't be further from the truth. And it's just like, people just want to perpetuate lies about you online for no reason. And this gets on my nerves when people say this. People are like, well, just don't read the comments. I'm like, bitch, this is my content. I'm engaging with my fans and people who support me. And you're asking me not to read the comments for people who are. For the shit that I'm posting because people can't control themselves. I'm like, these motherfuckers need to control themselves. Why can't I engage in my content how I want to? Because of fucking lizards.
B
I think there's something to what they're saying. I think if you don't want to engage in that kind of angry rhetoric with anybody at all, the answer is to not read the content, read the comments. Because you can't ask people to not comment because that. That will. That will never happen. You're asking for something that will literally never happen. They're gonna comment and they're gonna be negative comments.
C
But that's putting the burden and the onus on me instead of asking these people not to be assholes they will do it.
B
You can ask people to. But I think it is unrealistic to expect that you can post anything on the Internet and not have any assholes comments on it. That's just, that's unrealistic. That's never going to happen.
C
Right. Which goes back to my point about the Internet is a very dangerous place.
B
So it means the thing is, don't read the comments because you can't get people to not comment unless you turn your comments off. But then they'll still find ways. Then they'll quote, tweet you, they'll stitch your video on TikTok, you turn stitches off, they will screen record your video and then edit the video in. We've all seen that too. So I think that, I think, I do think that person has had. Had the right, the right thing. If you really, really, really can't take it, you got to stop reading the comments. You just have to. But also, it feels nice in my head to realize too that people's opinions about me, good and bad, I really have to take it with a grain of salt. Like, I really, that's, that's the thing that I'm like, oh, I really, I really, really take this with a full grain of salt. Because what people say about me, whether it's good or bad, it should carry the same weight. When people say you're really, really phenomenal versus your piece of shit, it's just another person's opinion about me. So I just want to try to make sure that I'm happy with what I'm doing, what I'm putting out there, the work I'm doing, whether it's opinions about my work or about me or my person, I'm like, I just want to make sure that I am happy with what I'm doing at the end of the day because I can't seek validation from the outside.
C
Oh, yeah? Yeah. I mean, I think seeking validation from people is, will never be a good thing because you can get a million positive things to assert all of the positive things about yourself. Bitch, it takes one negative thing and you're like, oh my God, I'm the worst. When it literally the ratio just doesn't even add up. But you will still take that one nigga comment to heart.
B
Yeah. And I think it also is a consider the source moment as well. It depends on who's saying it. You know what I mean? If you're at a show and, and it's just some random person in the front row versus a peer versus a person you look up to versus someone you may have a relationship with in the past, have you ever gotten into a relationship to an argument with someone online that you had a former relationship with? Not like a sexual relationship like someone that you were friends with or someone that you like, were really, really close with and then you kind of like, wow, we're really at odds now?
C
I don't think so. If I. No one. A friend, someone who I ever considered a friend, I don't think would ever engage with me like that online. We either have a text or a phone call. A friend has never engaged with me negatively online.
B
Sometimes friends go off the deep end.
C
I haven't had a friend that has done that to me.
B
Have I ever had a close friend? No, I don't think I've ever had. Well, no. The short answer is no. I mean, I've had a few friends who maybe not be. Have been super close who kind of. I don't want to say gone off the deep end, but like shown some really erratic behavior, but usually in person and it's kind of like we need to get this person some help kind of vibes. You know what I mean?
C
Yeah, yeah. My friends have all pretty much been together. Not unless you plan on doing something soon. Let me know, give me a heads up.
B
Well, if I do anything, I would. I would just ask you have some grace and dignity with me and know that I'm probably going through something right now and that it's not personal.
C
No, I mean if you try to. If you drag me online, I'm going to drag you back.
B
Well, I mean, if. You better hope my Ritz have really gone about me because honey, if you ever try to drag me, you have to wake up early in the morning to get one over on me, honey.
C
Oh, trust me, I have the receipts and I will get that ass bitch
B
like your co host says. Oh yeah, honey. Absolutely. Honey. How is touring with Trinity?
C
Touring with Trinity is great. You know, we're still recovering from that double win and I finally recovering thinking
B
that, yeah, not recovering from winning. Wow, must be nice recovering from winning.
C
No touring. Trinity's fun. We have been hosting the Christmas show together. Bob came to the LA show. A bunch of people came to the LA show. Oh my gosh. Let me tell you what happened at the yellow show. All right, so Trinity and I host the show together. We opened the show and then within the first 10 seconds, Trinity's like, bob is here. He's sitting right there. And I was like, I know Bob hates this.
B
I was like, every time Trinity Comes out, she goes, bring up the house lights. Every time. At one point was like, just leave the house lights up. Just leave them up. Every time Trini comes out, she's like, bring up the house lights, y'. All. Bring up these house lights. I just want to look like, bitch, none of us have moved. We're all in the same seats. Like, it's the same people. Bring up the house lights.
C
Bring up the house lights.
B
Bring up the house lights. Bring up the house lights.
C
Bring up the house lights.
B
And at one point, while Kim made a point, one time. Sometimes when you introduce a girl, it's always like a trivia. You're like, she was on season eight. She won Miss Congeniality. She's from Puerto Rico. Give it up for. Her nickname is Cuckoo. Give it up for a season.
C
Give it up for Robbie Turner.
B
But she's While doing the trivia game, Trinity was like, this girl. This next girl is a pageant queen. She is fierce, and she once punched me right in my face. Give it up for Alyssa Edwards. So Alyssa Edwards comes out, and I was like. I text her, I said, did she really punch her in the face? And then I saw back there, she goes, yeah, girl, she punched me. And then as. I don't know if you saw this as Alyssa was walking off stage, you know, they cross past really closely. Trinity's going, don't hit me.
C
Don't hit me.
B
Please don't hit me. Don't hit me. But Alyssa did not seem to think it was as funny as Trinity thought it was.
C
So Trinity, like, fucking puts a spotlight on Bob in the first. And again, the reason why Drag Race girls don't particularly like that is because when there is, like, an intermission or whatever, people are gonna run into Bob. Like, bob, can I have a picture, please? Can picture, please? And, like, you know, yeah, you're out. And that's part of being a public figure. Like, we get that. But you're also, like, trying to enjoy the show or during the show. People will, like, look over at you and be like, it's like, girl, I want to watch the number.
B
Or they'll just take pictures of you, and you'll see the side of your head on. On Instagram and a tag picture later on. I also always get tagged, tagged in the pictures, being like, bob is not impressed. And I'm like, Khloe Kardashian. I'm just, like, just sitting there. Just like, I'm just sitting here, like, I'm not doing anything.
C
Literally. Literally. You're Khloe Kardashian. Vi.
B
But it feels like if I'm not watching a show like this the whole time, But I'm like, Jesus Christ. Also can confirm for you all listening. I mean, I don't. By the time this comes out, the tour might be over, but Jan's bitch. Happy Stephen Merlot Christmas is the best number in the show.
C
I told you, it's a great number. I told you it's so good.
B
It is.
C
So now, is Jan your favorite Stephanie Schall singer?
B
I want to see Laguna do a Christmas song.
C
She has one out right now. Bob, do you listen to Blue Christmas Song?
B
I want to see her do it live. It's different, you know, it's different than season one live. You know that?
C
Oh, for sure.
B
Like seeing someone live, it makes their voice more impressive. Something about on the radio, you expect to. To be literally perfect and we see a lot. Also, there's something about live. You can feel the reverberations of the speakers in the room and the noise. You can see them emoting. I do like the red dress that she wore in her Instagram video. I wish you'd bring that dress back. What?
C
Why do you have to? I think she looks perfectly nice in the silver one, Bob.
B
I didn't say anything about the silver dress. All I said was she looks really nice in this red dress. That's literally all I said. It's a really beautiful dress and I wish she'd bring it back because I want to see her in it more. You really sprinkled a lot of you sprinkled a lot of feeling into that. You really just told. I'm not sprinkling anything you just told on yourself.
C
You know, I have been engaging, conversing, talking to Bob the Drag Queen for about to be 10 years now. Bitch, I know what the fuck you mean when you said, I really like the red dress. I wish you wear that dress.
B
It's just the dress I like seeing her in. You ever see you see someone in a dress or a garment you want to see them in? Like, I want to see her back in this dress. It was so pretty. And when I came, she wasn't wearing the dress.
C
Y' all comment below if y' all fit any shade. If y' all felt a little shade with that, y' all comment below what y' all felt with that.
B
Well, I thought that her voice was absolutely stunning. She also did a have herself. What is it? Highest bow challenge. And she is acting like it's a movie on her Instagram. On her TikTok. I'm Just trying to see. I just want to hear Monet sing Highest bow bitch. There's a trailer for a TikTok. I'm dead. I'm. All the girls. It's like girls like at the end of singing it or about to sing it and then she's dropping trailers. She's like. In a world where the highest bow is the highest note, starring gun gun gung gung gunk Peppermint Dun dun dun dun dun Monet. Brooklyn Heights is the highest bow challenge. I was like, this is wild.
C
Also, this is my first time meeting a lot of. This is my first time really hanging out with Heidi in closet. My first time hanging out with Crystal Method. I really like Crystal Method.
B
You like crystal meth?
C
She's great. I love crystal meth. It's like she's like really strong. She really like Crystal.
B
Method is joke on Crystal. Like, is it a play on crystal meth head?
C
I'm sure something with drugs, but is
B
it crystal meth head?
C
I don't know. I don't know what a meth head like a meth head. Someone who does method.
B
You know what a meth head is? Don't play dumb. You know what a meth head is? Don't. I'm. I'm not engaging. We're skipping.
C
We're skipping the term. The term. The term meth head is not like a popular, is it? The term meth head is not the same as calling someone a weed head. No one calls people a meth head. That is some. You just made up.
B
It's not true. Meth head is an actual.
C
Yes, it is. No weed heads. Yes. Meth head is not a thing.
B
Meth head is a thing. Type it in here. Type in your search right now. Type it in your search right now. Go to Google. Type up meth head right now. And. And there's. There's a movie called meth head came out in 2013. There's a whole.
C
I never heard the term.
B
There's a whole movie. It's called meth head.
C
Maybe. Maybe that's something in the popular in the circles you run around in. I don't run around in those meth head circles.
B
Yeah, you know what I mean? Me and my meth head friends, Monet. Now what? Now what does meth head mean? What do you think you could mean by meth head? Is that a phrase? Is it for people who bitch, you know what the fuck a meth head is? You know what a pothead is? Yeah, people don't say.
C
That's what I said.
B
No one says weed. I say pothead. Weed head is not a phrase. Pothead.
C
No, people say we potheads. Is that. That's how white people say. It's maybe in. Down in Columbus, Macon, Georgia, people say weed head. Like, yo, yeah, Mario. Oh, yeah, he's a weed head. You don't say a pothead. Well, who said pothead? Who says pot?
B
This is. This is why we call this the gaslighting. The gaslighting. Monet. Gaslighting exchange. I don't. I know. I know what your. Your middle drag. Your middle name in drag is Gaslight.
C
Monet.
B
Gaslight Exchange, everyone.
C
Pothead is a very pothead
B
people say.
C
I mean, yes, they do.
B
Like white.
C
Like white folk. Like suburbanites say potheads because they pot. Oh, are you smoking pot? That's the thing. But in Brooklyn, we didn't say pot. We said weed.
B
There's also the thing where you act like if people don't say it in Brooklyn, only white people say it. People in the south talk differently than people in the North. So if people in Brooklyn don't say, that doesn't mean that, you know, black people live outside of Brooklyn. There's a whole place called Clayton county where there's a whole town called Clayton county in Atlanta and Chicago and Detroit with lots and lots of black people. But when they swear that if you don't say it in Brooklyn, it's only white people who say it. That is not how that works, Monet.
C
Listen, and I think that pothead is not a black colloquialism. Weed head is a. Is a black colloquialism. Pothead is not.
B
Well, the. The. I mean, I will let the comments go ahead. And speaking of the Internet, the Internet about to light you up, honey. Yeah. Call money a dumb bitch.
C
No, bitch, I'm about to light up this blunt in my. In my bag to make you real
B
foolish as a weed head. Weed head, bitch.
C
Weed head.
B
When I Google, weed head is literally heads made of weed. That's how. That's how. That's how. Not a saying. This is,
C
Bob. Weed head is a saying. Y' all comment below.
B
Please let us know when I go to urbandiction.com. weed head only has 100 hits. Only has 100 hits. Meaning it is not a popular colloquialism, honey.
C
It is a popular colloquialism.
B
Now when I go to urban diction, type in pothead. Pothead has. Let's see how many hits pothead has. Pot has two.376 hits, plus 468. So I think it's safe to say that a lot more people use the phrase pothead than use the phrase weed. Weed head.
C
We'll see.
B
Now you're gonna tell me they don't say crackhead. What do they say? Crack cocaine head.
C
No, I. I mean, yeah, we didn't say crackhead. I never heard that. No kidding. Crackhead. Of course. Obviously. Of course. A cokehead, a crackhead, a weed head.
B
Wait, so let me get this straight. So people say cokehead, but you just never heard the phrase pothead or you've never heard a black.
C
You've never heard.
B
You've never heard a black person say it? You only heard white people say it?
C
Hold on, hold on, hold on. I never said. I've never heard this one. You see, it's when you start adding and sprinkle your own shit.
B
Yeah, I'm doing your thing. I'm trying your thing. I'm trying some of your take techniques here. I learned. I learned from the master.
C
I said. I said pothead is not like how we said it where I grew up.
B
That's not what you said. You said only white people say. You said black folks don't say it. So now you. Now you backtrack again.
C
Okay, Into.
B
On. On.
C
Y' all know this Baba. Baba loves to act like. We don't speak in hyperbole here on this podcast. Anytime I'm hyperbolic. Baba's like, Monet, why don't you.
B
Why don't you. Why don't you have purple Ds? I also don't like how often you use the word hyperbole. I don't like it. Can you acknowledge that I taught you the word hyperbole?
C
You are such a crazy.
B
And that's not hyperbole. When I say literally, I mean literally.
C
You're about to say. No. No, what I said you are a fucking crazy person. I wasn't being hyperbolic. You are a crazy person. You are fucking nuts. I graduated college sua cum laude.
B
Yeah. From a fucking. In music school.
C
I got.
B
You sound like Elle Woods.
C
I. For music. Music education, bitch. I had to.
B
Bitch, are you.
C
Oh, my God. I'm about to. I'm about to.
B
You're the fucking.
C
You're the L. I want to go off.
B
You're literally the Elle woods of this podcast. You're some bitch being like, oh, yeah.
C
And did y'. All. Y' all just hear that vibrating? That's this bitch. Not me. With me and Tia coffee. That would. Tia coffee vibrating. Now this bitch is vibrating. So don't say it's Monet wet, like it's hard.
B
That's, that's you right now. You got in Harvard wet like it's hard. I have a 4.0. Yeah, I have a 4.0 average in fashion. Mer. Merchandising. Fashion. Yeah.
C
Okay, said the, said the. Who, who, who did one semester.
B
Did I do one semester of college? I did three years of college.
C
You. Well, did you finish?
B
I did not finish. Are you, are you, are you shaming people? Are you shaming people who didn't finish college? What do you think?
C
Are you shaming people who got, who got, who got a music education degree? Are you shaming those people?
A
Maybe.
C
Okay, then yes. I'm shaming you too, then. Yes.
B
So what do you have to say about people who didn't finish college? What's your problem with people who didn't finish college? You know, some people didn't grow up with a mom who owns a cell phone company, with a maid who has a maid. Some of us couldn't. Some of us couldn't afford to finish college, so we had to drop out because we were paying out of pocket while working at Applebee's and Ruby Tuesdays. That was some of us experience. I would even say some of us on this podcast, some of us work two jobs and we're in college at the same time to pay for it.
C
Oh, no. I worked. I worked three jobs and you know this. I would, I worked overnight.
B
What jobs?
C
Well, I'm so hot. I'm hot. I'm getting hot. I worked at, I worked at the conservatory. I worked as a front desk agent at the conservatory.
B
Everyone knows a job, a job at the school don't count.
C
But what do you mean job? I was working 40 hours a week.
B
A job. The school doesn't count. Continue. Go ahead. What's your next job, please? You were, you were, you were. You work. You work 40 hours a week at school while being a full time student. No, let's make it make sense. No, I want to hear the truth. I work. You work.
C
Hold on, hold on.
B
Yeah, let's hold on, hold on, hold on.
C
Holiday. Hold on.
B
Holiday.
C
I work 40 hours while you're in school.
B
I'm talking about while you're in school. I don't want to hear what you did post graduation.
C
Yes, bitch. While I was in school, I worked 40.
B
And you were a full time student.
C
I worked 40 hours a week. Yes, as a night audit. Because I did 11pm to 7am you can ask, you could, we can call Dejuan right now I work 11pm to 7am on the night audit, which was Sunday through Thursday. And then I worked and then I did class from 8:30 to 6:30. And then on the weekends I work at the conservatory Saturdays and Sundays.
B
And did you work there 40 hours a week too?
C
No, the conservatory was part time. I did that Saturday.
B
You said three jobs.
C
A full time student. That is a full time job.
B
Okay, well, if a student's a job, then I had three jobs too. Then I too had three jobs. And. And I was.
C
But where. But was one of them. But was one full time?
B
Yes, I worked full time on Ruby Tuesday. I was 401k. Yes. Yes. I literally worked full time Ruby Tuesday.
C
Oh, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. You had to restock the salad bar. I was a night auditor. I was doing financial work.
B
I was a waiter. So now you have something against people in the service industry? You really elitist today. You are really on your elitist shit today. Wow, you are. You are showing a new. A new side of your maid having ass. You and your mansion. Let me tell you, the 1% of St. Lucia has really shown her ass on this day, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Wow. What was your maid's name again? What was her name?
A
Phyllis.
B
Was that Phyllis? What was her name?
C
Who the fuck is Phyllis?
B
Say it.
C
Who the fuck is Heather?
B
It's like, whatever. If she could see you now, the child that she raised, she'd be so disappointed in you. You're better than this.
C
You are a fucking troll. You are literally the bad. You are the bad part of the Internet personified. You are the bad part of the Internet right now, right here.
B
You never did anything bad on the Internet.
C
Bad? Like, meaning what? Like, what do you mean?
B
Have you ever catfished
C
Cat? Probably when I was fucking doing AOL stuff, for sure.
B
I mean, when I was younger, I used to catfish.
C
Well, actually, if I was catfish, I would do it on Yahoo. Messenger because Yahoo messenger was like a little less than aol. It was like the trashy version of aol. So I used to definitely do that on there. I would say, like, I was like, I would fully be like 13, 14, 10. I was like, 20, 21.
B
I used, I, I would. There's a website called Rate My Face. I wonder if it's still up. Rape my face. And I posted a picture of my raped.
C
Rape my face.
B
As in, like, tell me what you think about my face.
C
Oh, all right.
B
It was on ratemyface.com and I posted a picture myself on Rate My Face. I wanted people to rate me and see what, like, what they thought about my face. And it was a picture. I remember thinking to myself, I look so. Like, I look like an adult in this picture. Like, I look like a full fledged adult. This is crazy. I'm about to gag them with how adult I look. And all the comments like, if you don't get your seventh grade ass off this website, you look young as hell. I don't know why. Why are you here? Who let this kid on here go to sleep, go to bed, wig. Like, it was like a lot of that. The website won't load. So maybe, maybe it's not a website anymore.
C
But you talked about, you talked about this before and the fans kind of not gathered you, but they were like, well, that's not quite what it is about the Dark Internet. The Dark Internet, I never been there, but I want to see what it is.
B
Like, what do you mean by gather me?
C
Because you were saying. Well, they were saying what you described was not the Dark Web.
B
I don't remember that. I don't remember the fancy quote gathering
C
me or I remember that for sure also.
B
I mean, the dark. The Dark Web is, is, is okay. The Dark Web is not like a secret website. The Dark Web is just like certain. I know the Dark Web is like certain places that you can go and buy certain things. What are you shaking your head over there for there? The Dark Web is not one place. Like, there are certain areas of the web that is called the Dark Web. What are you shaking your head for when you speak instead of just shaking your head?
A
Have the dark.
C
What can you, like, calm down?
B
Okay, in order to get the Dark Web, it's like a separate Internet server. So you have to like get like reroute and like not be on this. So it's not like you're going into Chrome and like going to a certain part of Google Chrome being like, I'm on the Dark Web, you have to like specifically download software and like reroute your like, connection to log into another Internet server. I've been on the Dark Web and I didn't do all that. I went to go buy. I fully was on a website about to buy along and I did not reroute. I did not go to a secret thing. I would just.
C
But maybe it was not the Dark Web.
B
I mean, I also feel like Dark Web might be a colloquialism that doesn't actually refer to like a specific area of the web.
C
That's not what people have said. People said the Dark Web is like a whole different thing. Like you have like a whole new everything. Like it's not just like you can go to certain websites or whatever to get stuff. That's what I mean. Again, I've never been there. I don't know what the dark web is. I'm just saying that's what people have said.
B
Well, I'm not a dark web expert. I have not. I don't dabble on the dark web terribly often. I don't hang out there from what I hear is pretty gruesome. A lot of gross, upsetting things on the dark web. So I do not, I don't hang out there very often. Why is it so funny?
C
Because I don't know how to what to put into words. But like you do this thing like for example, when I'm like, well Bob, you make me feel like. Well first, like, like let's say we're having like not a heated exchange where we'll be talking about something.
B
Exchange.
C
Don't, don't, don't.
B
Don't use your name in here. Don't try to throw in your name. A heated exchange. Don't, don't do that. Don't plug yourself. Please don't. It's gross.
C
And then, and then you'd be like, well, you're like, well, let me stop right there. First of all, I'm not a witch. I can't make you feel just now you would like to like, honey, I'm not a, I'm not a dark web expert. I never use dark. Please don't.
B
I'm not a dark web expert. Bitch. I don't know about the dark web. I don't hang out on the cell organs web very often.
C
You know something that Amanda Seals did, I don't know how she's doing it with it now, but because she was so sick of the negativity she was receiving online and on Instagram and stuff, she was gonna like start like her own social media platform. Would you ever think about doing something like that? Like your own social media platform, like your own.
B
Just start a social.
C
Right. That sounds so stressful and so much work.
B
And also you can't block negativity from the Internet. I was thinking recently about like anti bullying campaigns and I was like, is this a waste of money? Like can you actually get kids to stop bullying? Or is it better to put resources into like in the 90s, building up self confidence, helping people work on their self esteem, ways to respond to being bullied. Maybe I'm short sighted, but I feel like since the dawn of time, people have been bullying. And I don't think we can actually stop people from bullying.
C
Eradicate bullying, like, forever, period.
B
I don't think that's a possibility because you have to eradicate. You have to eradicate people being. You have to eradicate one, like violence in the home. You have to see if this person, this. This child is being. Being bullied at home. Are they exhibiting behavior that they were?
C
Yeah.
B
You have to go back and find out if this person is insecure. What are this child's insecurity, what's going on? I don't think that we have the ability to actually eradicate bullying, as I think it might make more sense to actually work on helping people who are victims of being bullied, who are victims of bullying.
C
Well, you know, I was listening to the View the other day, and they were talking about in some school how the kids were protesting because one kid was using hate speech about other kids in the school. But then the conversation about the First Amendment came in, and I was like, well, it's free speech. And like, well, you can't have. You can't have free speech when you're at school. It's different because you need to make the environment taste for other kids. But now there's this whole thing about to erupt about, like, what falls under First Amendment rights for children in school.
B
Well, I mean, I think that.
C
And bullying comes into that as well,
B
especially if the bullying is harassment. Freedom of speech does not give you the right to harass people. Freedom of speech does not give you the right to threaten people. Freedom of speech does not give you the right to use your words to. If they can cause physical or mental harm to people. I don't think that's how freedom of speech works. That's not. That's not what that is.
C
Right.
B
It's also like this. This thing where people on Facebook or Twitter are like, they're taking my freedom of speech. Like, okay. Asking someone to engage by the policies is not taking away freedom of speech. Twitter is like. Like, for example, let's say if you're on. If you're on Twitter and you're trying to say these. I hate them. And Twitter's like, we don't allow that speech here. Like, well, I have freedom of speech. And Twitter's like saying, we didn't say you can't say it. We say, you can't say it here. We're saying you can't say it and use our platform.
C
Twitter is a private right. Twitter is a private thing. This Is their own thing. Bitch, you can't say what you want on their. Like, just like, you can't go. If you go to my house, usually they're saying, I hate niggers. I can kick you out because, bitch, you're on my property. You can say it. Go say it outside. You can't say it in here.
B
Is that what happened when you were hanging out with. I'm just kidding. I was thinking someone funny to. I couldn't think of anyone. Oh. Oh.
C
I was saying, oh, my God, we got so sidetracked so before. So Trinity, like, fucking spotlighted.
B
Bob, we are really going back 10. We're.
C
I know, but though. But then later on in the show, I went out and I do. I was doing some bit and I was like, oh, it's Samisha Iman here. And I was like, looking down in the orchestra. I was like, oh, no, I'm kidding. She can't afford these tickets. She probably up here. And I was like, pointing to the balcony. Everyone's like, ooh, ah, whatever. I was just being silly saying a joke. And I go back off stage and Alyssa was next. She's like, girl, you were so crazy. She was like. She was like, to me, she's probably gagging. I'm like, like, girls probably never see that. And she's like, no, she's here. I was like, for real? And she's like, yeah, she's up here. She's like, watching the show. She texted me and I was like, oh, my God.
B
I don't think she's really there, because a friend of mine came over last night. We were hanging out, and she was in the balcony, and she was like, I did not see Tamisha Mon. And I looked around and I did not see Tamishamon. I think that there was, like, some dubious drama going on with someone somewhere.
C
I wish it was. I was like, this is gonna be. I was like. I was literally just being a silly bit, but she'll probably take it to heart and be mad about it, other than this is about to be a whole nother thing. And I was like, you thought about
B
reaching out to her and apologizing?
C
Absolutely fucking not. Never will I ever apologizing for the fuck what I was.
B
Listen, whoa. I'm not coming for you, okay? I am not coming for you. I am just your friend. I was just asking if you wanted to do it and you don't, and I respect that.
C
Thank you, Bob. Thank you. Look at you using AirPods. You want to love. Oh, I just did a stitch video to Your little video that you posted on TikTok. So Bob posted this video on TikTok of one using his Galaxy camera, one using an iPhone camera. And I wanna let you know, I'm not coming. This is not a malicious video. I was being very sincere. I did not say anything rude or nasty, but I know you like to take everything and make it rude and nasty.
B
Well, let's see. Let's see what the video is. I'll decide if it's rude and nasty.
C
I didn't post it yet. I'll show you the draft. I didn't post it yet. I literally saw it right before we started podcasting.
B
So, yeah, you haven't posted. Is this a trailer for your TikTok or is this the actual. Actual TikTok?
C
This actual TikTok. And I just stitched your video and I said, I can almost guarantee you that Bob did not adjust any of the settings or made it or made the camera HD or light balancing or anything. I was like, I don't think he's doing it in a shady or malicious way. I just know Bob and I know he did it.
B
Well, I didn't adjust any settings on iPhone. I just put them in the setting they come on. I just set them both up. And the way that they come, I hit record and I recorded myself.
C
Okay, so with the iPhone, you have to set up, but you had to allow it to do HD and you had to allow it to do smoothing and also had to allow it to do light balancing.
B
That's all very interesting.
C
Just so you're aware. I just wanted to let you know, I was like, I don't think he's doing it in a malicious way, guys. I just think that Bob just doesn't know.
B
Sorry, there's something going on.
C
See, I give you the benefit of the doubt. You see how that works? You would never.
B
I still can't quite figure out what is up. Like, Like, I've just never seen any group of people so adamant about defending something like tooth and nail, like iPhone people do. It is genuinely, genuinely strange. I'm just like, I don't know what is going on. It is weird how intensely and how protective iPhone people are.
C
Yeah. Oh, my God. So on the tiki tok you posted on your thang, it's a video of you with your Samsung phone and your iPhone phone and you're recording with both of them and you're saying, I'm not doing anything. And your iPhone, you're like, I'm not doing anything. He's just recording on My two phones. This is this one, this is that one, and I stitch it. Cause, and again, I'm not being malicious or anything. I'm just making an observation. I was like, I stitch it with yours. And I said, I know for a fact Bob did not adjust any of the settings, put the HD on or the color balancing on it. I don't think this is malicious. I just think. I know Bob and I know he did it. Did you?
B
What I did was I just used the phones in the settings they come in. I just put the phones up. I didn't put either one of them in their HD board. I didn't use the. I used the front facing cameras on both of them. Also, most of these cameras that have these like super pro things, it's almost all for the back camera. It's practically never for the front camera. So when something is like pro, hd, cinematic, blah, blah, blah, all those settings are almost always on the back camera. Because on a lot of the back cameras they have.
C
Except for the iPhone 13, they have like three and four cameras on the front cameras. Second, the iPhone, except for the iPhone 13, which has like a fierce front camera. You have to turn it on.
B
I mean, I don't know why. Why wouldn't it just come on. All right, let's see. I'm opening my settings. Settings,
C
go to camera.
B
In my camera.
C
And what do you. What are the things you have on? What for recording video. What is. What do you have it at?
B
Okay, settings, camera, record video, 1080p at 30 frames per second.
C
No, put it at 4K 60 frames per second.
B
Your video. You will be able to get a solid four videos on your phone before it runs out of space.
C
Bitch. I have millions of videos on my phone. Okay? Millions, obviously. Oh, Bob, watch out. I'm not being serious. That was not supposed to be literal. Just so we know, I'm being a little. I'm exaggerating a tiny bit. I have.
B
Ever since you started shaming people who couldn't finish college, you've really changed.
C
And ever since you started shaming music educators, which you're fucking welcome for. Cause I'm sure a music educator made you the fucking bitch you are today.
B
I know you're assuming I took some sort of music class.
C
You never took choir or music or anything?
B
Of course I did.
C
And were those teachers influential in your life? Did they mean a lot to you?
B
All of my teachers were influential.
C
My biology, but specifically the music ones. How about those?
B
I don't remember that. I don't remember her name. But she was a really nice lady. I loved her a lot.
C
You're welcome. Very, very welcome. So that was a music educator bitch.
B
Do you think a college dropout has ever influenced your life?
C
Can't think of one.
B
Wow. You know, on that note, I think we're gonna wrap it.
C
Yes, yes, yes. Kanye. Kanye West. Kanye West.
B
You heard it here. Monet for Kanye West 24. On that note, Monet. I think we've done enough podcasting for one day. I can't wait to get back to New York City. I mean, so. Oh, my God. I was in New York, so, like, I forgot. Back to laughs.
C
Your time in New York did you love Was wonderful.
B
I had a lot of fun. I want to go see Peppermint. Me and Peppermint had lunch together. I went to go see Thorgy. I want to go see Keisha Carr. I want to go see dj2face. I hung out with.
C
Did you miss New York? Did you miss.
B
I did miss New York. I hung out with Mateo and Mitch. Who else did I see? I saw Pixie.
C
Patty.
B
I saw Patty. It was lovely.
C
Did you.
B
A city diner up on, you know, city diner up in my old neighborhood.
C
Ew. On, like, 92nd. Yeah, it's on.
B
What's wrong with city? Dining is great.
C
It was not a good time.
B
It was great. Yeah. I just. It was. It was so much fun. So much fun.
C
Do you want to move back?
B
I just bought a. I just bought a condo, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna ride it out for the next 27 years while my mortgage is still out, you know?
C
Bob, can we buy a mega mansion next year?
B
Don't fuck with me. We're leaving. This is. We're. We're. Goodbye. Goodbye, everyone. Goodbye. Goodbye.
A
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Date: December 15, 2021
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
In this episode, Bob and Monét use their signature banter and irreverent, honest humor to dissect all things "the Internet." From their formative experiences in chat rooms and early online trolling to the complicated impact social media has had on public figures like themselves, the queens detail the web’s joys and dangers. They share candid discussions about bullying, online hate, anonymity, personal boundaries, and evolving tech, peppered with the spontaneous shade, story swaps, and genuine moments that make "Sibling Rivalry" a fan favorite.
Trigger Warning: This episode contains open discussion of suicidal ideation and the negative impacts of online harassment. (See [00:57].)
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As always, the episode is fast-paced, high-energy, and full of competitive but loving shade. Both queens balance serious, unfiltered insight (on mental health, Internet culture, bullying) with their signature style: outrageous, witty, sometimes biting, but ultimately supportive of each other and their audience.
Fans of Sibling Rivalry will especially love:
For listeners: If you’ve ever loved or loathed online engagement, experienced the high school “AOL era,” or just craved a refreshingly real look at Internet life from two legendary queens, this is a must-listen episode.