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On this week's episode, we're back on our geography bullshit.
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We kinda talk about theme parks.
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And we find out what made Bob the Drag Queen say this.
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I don't know. I'm not trying to take down Judy Garland, I swear. And we find out what made Monet say this.
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If there's something going down and I'm Mickey bitch, I'm taking my fucking head off. What you gonna do? Fire me?
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How much of this can you do?
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What?
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Let's see how far you can go until we are out of sync. You ready?
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Okay.
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You're a dummy. You will never know shit. Don't nobody want you. Don't nobody needs you, you know, around. And my mother, man, and had two children. One of them's a goddamn animal. And run around like a crazy as a. I think you. I think you try me. I think you're really trying to with me. You with my money. You can bring that white up my house. Oh, I don't loot back. I don't loop back.
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Yeah, it's one of those monologues.
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I. I haven't done that with some higher education. If I play it with. With.
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Yeah, if I. Yeah, if I do like with my number or through the thing. I can do it.
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You're a dummy. You would never know.
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Nobody wants you, need you. Monique, Monique, Monique.
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Did you watch that movie in theaters? No, we're talking about Precious to anyone who's at home.
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I did not watch the Theaters. I watched it on tv. Like maybe I got it on itunes. Movies or something. But I didn't watch it in the movies.
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I rushed the theater. I was living in New York City at the time and I went all the way to Long island to watch this.
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Why?
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Because you could not get a ticket to it in the city.
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You couldn't get a ticket to it
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that they were all sold out or whatever.
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For some reason. Really. Even like the craziest times, like a Monday afternoon at one o'. Clock.
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I don't know, honestly.
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You know, it was also in select theaters too. It wasn't all the.
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That was what it was like theater that. I think that. I think there may have been an early release. And it was in this one theater in Long is online tapping. You say he said you.
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Yeah. Too far. Taking the note. You're too far to bug me.
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But I think that's what it was. It was only in like theaters and I went all out to Long island to fudgeing. Watch this movie.
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Did you enjoy it in theaters?
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Yeah. I mean, it is a. It is a really fucking good movie. Precious is a. For me, Precious is like the new Color Purple. It has that. It has that vibe, it has that energy. It has that, like. It's not as campy. It. There are some campy moments.
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Oh, for sure. When she has that like scene when she's like.
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When she's a singer.
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Yeah, the dream sequence. Yeah.
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You know, we're trying to watch, but I. I didn't finish it right. What was that movie where that. That. It's like a fat white girl. She's a rapper. Her name was like Patty or something. Keep looking up, Jacob. Like it's like a. This big and not Brigitte Nielsen. Who is the woman anyway there?
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Charlize Theron.
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No, she's like this. This big white lady who sings really dirty songs she's doing at Joe's Pub. Was like a big part of her Patty Cakes. I was like, I gotta see this movie.
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The name of the movie's Patty Cakes.
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The name of the movie is Patty Cake. The one plays her mom. What's her name? Brigitte? No, Bridget Everett. Bridget Everett. Bridget Everett plays her mom and she just like. It's a disturbed by like a fat white girl.
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Is it a new movie?
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Is not new and not now.
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Like, like in the past five years. Oh, yeah. It's pretty new in terms of like.
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Yeah. I just mean it's not like in theaters right now. Got it wasn't great.
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And was it. Did it start the girl from Bridesmaids. The one. The Muslim Carthage. No, maybe not.
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Bridesmaids was not in Bridesmaids to my knowledge.
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I forget her name. The Australian actress. She. She. She always has, like, the big girls in movies. She's always like, Rebel Wilson. Rebel Wilson.
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No, it. It's not. It's not. It's not a comedy.
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Oh.
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It's this white girl and this, like, Asian guy. South Asian guy who are, like, getting together and, like. And she's, like, becoming a rapper in New Jersey.
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Do you know a lot of people don't know that Russia is in Asia?
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Not all of Russia.
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Well, a lot of. A big part of Russia's in Asia. And they're always like, but it's not. I'm like, but a big part is Asian.
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A lot of people don't know that Dubai is a nation.
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Right. A lot of people don't know that India is Asia.
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I think everyone knows any is Asia.
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A lot of people don't. They. They think India and they think Middle East.
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I mean, a lot of the Middle east is in Asia.
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Right. Afghanistan.
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But not all the Middle East.
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I know all of it, but a lot of it is.
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Egypt is technically in the Middle east, but it's in Africa.
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Yeah, Egypt is in Africa. Yeah, yeah. Geography, man. Geography will be up.
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Well, someone did not realize that the Midwest does not refer to it being in the Middle west part of America. It's the middle western hemisphere of the globe. Is that really the Midwest on the east coast one day? And the East Coast. But it's on the east side of America.
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I thought that.
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But it's in the Middle west part of the globe. It is, but it's on the east side of America.
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The Midwest stars is Ohio.
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It's like Chicago.
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Is Ohio considered the Midwest?
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I think parts of Chicago, Ohio are probably the Midwest, but like the Dakotas. Well, Dakota is actually more right in the middle. Yeah.
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I would. In my mind, the Midwest starts like. What's the state after Ohio? To the left of Ohio.
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To the left.
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To the left.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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What do you mean to the west?
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To the west. What do you mean to the left? Yeah.
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Depending on which way you're facing.
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Right. If you're looking at the map of the country, like New York, Indiana, it's in my mind. Do you. Do you think you can accurately point out the geography of the middle of the country? It's very.
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I'm like, you have a map with.
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No, without a map. Right here, right now.
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What do you mean, point to What? Like.
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No, I point to, like, could you, like, point. Like, point it out? Like, could you. Could you.
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So I'm saying is if you have a map with no names on it and you point to a stack, I could probably tell you what to say.
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That is. No, we don't. We don't have a map. You and I sitting right here. Can you, like, name, like, in the correct or like, how. We were just trying to figure out what's. What's.
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I've already felt. I didn't tell you what's next to Ohio, so I've already felt the mission.
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Okay, let's. Let's. Let's. Let's play this. Let's see who can get it. Jacob will tell us. I've already got it, Rocky, but Jacob will tell us what. Do you know what's left of Indiana, Wyoming? I'm going to say. I'm going to say. I'm going to say Chicago is not a state. Illinois.
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Chicago is to the west of Ohio. Chicago is. Yes, it's west, but no, Chicago is east of Ohio. Chicago is east of Ohio.
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Chicago is not east of Ohio.
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Illinois, I think, is east of Ohio.
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Illinois. Okay, you know what? Well, for y' all looking, Illinois is here. Ohio is like, here, babe.
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Is it, bitch? I don't fucking know. Jacob's not answering any. Any. I would say Jacob's just sitting there not answering a goddamn question.
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Okay, so let's say we have Seattle over here. Do you know.
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Can we go back to when Bob said Wyoming? I told you. I don't know why. You're a gag. And I said, I don't know. This is like, I can't spell. I do not know.
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Okay, so you have Seattle here.
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Washington.
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Seattle, Washington. Do you know what's to the east of Seattle?
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I mean, of Washington, east of Washington.
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I'm gonna say Montana.
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Oregon.
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Oregon is south.
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I don't. I'm gonna take a. I do not know.
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Okay, we're just playing a game.
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No, we're playing you. I don't know the answer.
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Sometimes we play games. I don't know. I just guess. And I play the game. I. Congratulations.
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I've already guessed.
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But every time we guess, I don't know, we're like.
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But I'm literally just, like, throwing number. I have no clue. I think it's Oregon.
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I think it's Montana.
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It's Idaho.
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Oh, Montana is right after that. Got it. Got it. Work.
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You will slam this table.
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Let's do one more. So there's New Mexico. So do you know what State is east of New Mexico.
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Texas.
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I'm going to say Arizona.
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There's probably more than one state that touches it, but I'm pretty sure right over is Texas.
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I think there's. I think the direct bordering state is Arizona, and they probably both border it.
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I imagine that Texas is on the southern border and Arizona is on the northeast border.
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I don't agree with that. I think. I think we have Los Angeles, New Mexico. No, Los Angeles, Arizona, New Mexico. Yeah, I think you're right. It is Texas. What's down there? New Mexico, Arizona. What the fuck is down there?
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Wyoming.
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No, Wyoming is north. More north.
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I'm.
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I'm going to guess and say in the southwest of the country. I'm going to say that. I couldn't.
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I don't know. I. I know I've said a thousand times.
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I literally.
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I literally.
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What is that? What song does.
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Marty, I'll make a man out of you. That is the one. Yeah. She does it all the time.
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I don't know. What is it? Oklahoma. Oh, Oklahoma. Where the wind comes.
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Mostly for performing. I'll make a man out of you. From Mulan.
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I don't know. I. I've never been to a show
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sung by Donny Osmond.
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I couldn't tell you what, Marty, you
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know that Jackie Chan sure did. Yeah. Jackie Chan is a great guy, Insanely talented.
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I know you. You've let us know many times.
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I really like Jackie Chan. Went to school for opera, which I've probably said before, and is a world martial artist and actor. I'm a. I. Growing up, I was a very big Jackie Chan fan. I was actually really hurt when Jet Li became so popular because I felt like it was a direct jab at Jackie Chan. By the way, Jet Lee, I mean, it's like.
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It's like the world can have two very successful Asian martial arts fighters.
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They're like, how would the kid really like. It's like Backstreet Boy versus Instinct. I was like, I don't like this. Like, my mind was like, the fact that Jet Le is getting more popular. I feel like Jackie Chan getting less work. But also Jet Lee ended up getting sick.
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Yeah. Do you know what you need to watch? This is the 90s now.
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Who's spoken?
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This is 90s on Netflix. When they talk about boy bands and so boys to men. And I. I don't know how I did not see it in my brain. Maybe I was too young. I didn't realize that 98 degrees was a direct. They were like a direct copycat of Voice of men. They, like, took their. Took on, like, their urbanisms and. And they. They basically, like, the label pushed them to be like the white boy cement.
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I didn't realize in 90 degree. I don't think I can. I didn't either single 90 degrees. So that's why I didn't recognize.
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I can't either. But they were like one of the. They were one of the popular ones. I mean, they weren't as successful, obviously, as Backstreet Boys and NSync, but when the label. When they saw how popular that Boys to Men were, that they were crushing it, turning it. They were literally.
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They also weren't of the same time. Boys to me was way before 90 degrees.
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Yeah, but as.
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But.
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But Boyce Men was like 92. Like 91 through, like 95, 96. And that was when 98 degrees started, like 97. So, yeah, the label started grooming them. No, they were like. They started doing stuff like 97. They faded out like 2000s.
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I just. I. I guess I was more into NSync, Backstreet Boys and Boys to Men. If. If all the boy bands I knew, plus the Temptations. I think outside of those four groups, I don't know anything about Old Town.
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Remember Old Town? You probably don't. You are the dreadlocks.
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Like, white guy with dreadlocks. The dream. I only know because they had a reality show on MTV TV.
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Yep.
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And I was really into MTV's reality TV shows.
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Do you remember a pop star on MTV? That's when Nicole Scherzinger got popular. Eden's Crush. Get over yourself.
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Goodbye. But I was into a show called Together.
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I don't know that one.
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Together was a mockumentary style reality TV show about a boy band that. About a boy band. But they were singing songs like, the hardest part of breaking up is getting back your stuff. And they sang together forever. They sang, you plus sign Me. Equal sign.
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I remember that. I remember that video.
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Yeah. And one of them was like 40 years old and had braces.
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Do you know? I know that because. Holly. Holly Day. Holly Day. That was when we. When Queen, we would do the boy band Queen cast show. We used to always close with that song. It was like two plus sign.
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No, it's you.
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You.
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Plus sign me. Equal sign Us. Yeah, yeah. And I was really into. I thought they were really funny. And they had, like. They had like, all the archetypes. There was like, the older guy who was like 40 and bald, but he had braces to look young. There was. There was the really hot One. There was the one who was probably gay, and there was the one who was really cute. His name was QT Letter qt. And then he had, like, a terminal illness that he was going to die from. But the actor actually did.
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Oh, God.
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And he did die.
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There was another girl group. They were grl. Girl. There was such a great girl group. And one of them, she. She committed suicide. It was really dark because they were such a good girl group.
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We were on the dark side of groups now.
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I know. Listen up. Making the band.
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I would say a lot of group Temptations had a. Had a suicide as well.
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Yeah, man. I mean, I think especially.
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I don't think it's a group thing. I think it's entertainment and mental.
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Right. Entertainment. And looking back at Briefing, I think
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being famous really exacerbates mental illness, probably.
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Oh, for sure. Especially look. Look at Brittany. And, like, it's just that constant. Like, who knows what the labels were back then? Labels were telling bitches that you need to not eat. You need to lose 20 pounds tomorrow. Like, who knows what these people were going through?
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A lot of people say, like, my label forced me to.
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What does that mean? They probably were like, we're gonna kick you out of the groove if you don't lose 20 pounds.
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But what about, like, solo artists? They're like, my label forced me to blank, blank, blank. Like, someone came into our comments, was like, just so you guys know, the label forced Pink to make a Black Person album. She did not want to do that. And I'm like, that just seems like a really easy scapegoat. Like, it wasn't her, it was the label.
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I think that in music and stuff like that, I think that there is a part of it where, yes, of course, you can choose whatever you want. If they were, you have to do this or we won't like. Or, sure, she can choose to walk away, but I think there's a. There's a lot. It's more nuanced, and it's probably more complicated than just choosing Walk, where you probably sign a deal that if you don't execute the terms of your contract, then you owe the label a million dollars. Who knows, like, what there is?
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Yeah. I'm also just wondering how much of that is true and how much people are just saying, like. Like, I commented a while back that Judy Garland did blackface.
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Yeah.
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And everyone could be like, they made her do blackface.
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Well, Judy don't know that. Judy's a. Well, I don't know how they know that. But, I mean, did you watch the Judy movie with Renee Zeller?
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I need to watch that. So I heard she was really brilliant.
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So brilliant. And I. It opened my eyes to a lot of the things back then, how film and TV went back then. Like, she would literally was. She was just a body. And they will shove pills on her mouth and it will shove things up her nose and just make her do these things.
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How much of that I just. I'm not. I was not there. Clearly, I'm way too young. But I also wonder how much of that is true and how much of that is just. It helps the movie. Because you're making a movie where Judy Garland is a protagonist. She can't give herself pills. Someone has to be giving her pills. Or she can't be doing coke herself. Someone has to be giving her cocaine. So I just wonder. I don't know. I'm not trying to take down Judy Garland, I swear.
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Yeah, I mean. I mean. I mean, they're also going up for reports of what people said, that they saw their own eyes. You know, I mean, with that. With any, like, biopic or any memoir or whatever, how do we know what's true and what's not?
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Exactly. That's what I'm getting at. You know what I mean? And it's easier to attach the guilt or the blame to a nameless person or a faceless thing like the label, the network, the studio, but it's not a person. So it's like the studio. We should probably talk more about this
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when we get back. Yeah. Let's take a break.
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And we know with the. With the Judy Garland thing, one thing. With the blackface thing, it's like, I always struggle with that in terms of how do we talk deal with that? Because obviously, then in the 40s and in the 50s, blackface. Well, maybe in the 40s, blackface was like, it was common practice. People did it pretty often. So it's like, for example, we talked about this before. Like, what if in, like, 20 years, drag is whatever and People are like, do you remember Bob the Dragon? He used to do drag. Well, we can't cancel him anymore. Cause. Oh, is it dead? Yeah.
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I was gonna look at my notes.
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I mean, I've.
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I've done blackface before.
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Yeah.
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You don't like this before.
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You're a black person.
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I know. I mean, well, there are some people. There are still ramifications, I think, for black people in blackface too, depending on who it is and how they're received and their audience.
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I mean, with the N word too. Like if, you know.
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I mean, Spike Lee made a movie about. With blackface characters in it, and a lot of people say that it really negatively impacted his career. He did Bamboozled.
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Yeah. But I mean, did it, though? Spike Lee is one of the most celebrated directors. Not even black directors in ever.
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No, he is, but he did. I think. I do think they had a negative impact on his career.
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Yeah.
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Just like Monique is one of the most celebrated comedians of all time. But I do think that she's had a negative impact on her career because of some stuff that's happened with her.
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Sure. But I feel like Monique, maybe she's like, just recovering. I feel like. I mean, again, I don't know. Obviously I was like a fucking fetus and was.
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Spike Lee was pretty clear. I mean, from her perspective. She seems pretty clear. That Netflix, at one point, her and Steve Harvey got into it on his show.
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I like to see it.
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I would like to see it. That's one of my favorite. I would like to see it.
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But do you watch her Tick Tock? Her Tick Tock is great.
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Monique.
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Monique's Tick Tock.
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Mostly when I see her on Instagram,
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she's always working out and dancing. She has this whole dance on Tick Tock. I know she does all the dancing. It's great to see Monique just doing
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this workouts with her trainer.
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Yeah. In her living room. Yeah. Yeah. But is this going to be the one about Black Film Part 2?
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We Can Talk about our topic now. Or does it feel odd to shift?
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No, let's shift. Mood shift. Do you know the group Mood Shift?
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No.
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Okay.
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I told you, I. I listed all the boy bands I know.
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No, this is not boy, man. This is just a group.
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I also feel like the girl groups I know are destiny, sh. The Supremes in vogue, 702 black. I kind of know black. Cause they're from Atlanta, I think.
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702.
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I think I might know 702.
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Escape. Who?
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Escape. SWV. I know a few songs by SWV and a few songs by Escape True. What's our theme?
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Theme parks.
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Get it? The more transition was our theme parks work.
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Theme parks. I recently was at a theme park. So the last time I was at a theme park, I went to Six Flags. They had.
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I don't know if I was about to ask.
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They had secretive. It was like. It was. I know. I went. It was. It was Six Flags Gay on the Mountain. It was like their gay night, whatever. And it was cute. But the weird thing is that with
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Six Flags, you gotta be more specific.
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Oh, I went to Six Flags and I think it's magic. Six Flags Magic Mountain here in Los Angeles. And it was their gay night.
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Every.
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Every Six Flags in Disney, they all do a gay night. I didn't. I didn't realize this until, like, recently. They all do, like, just one gay night where. But I guess you don't have to be gay to go. You just go.
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Are they gonna confirm gayness?
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Yeah, Well, I mean, it's not like a gay bar.
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You don't have to be gay to go to gay bar to get.
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And I the only had. I just sucked a little dick and it was just.
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Just a little bit.
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Just a little bit.
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Sucked a little dick, sucks a little bit. Small amount of dick.
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Oh, a little bit of dicks.
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Got it. Got it.
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And yeah, it was their game. It was fun. But the weird thing is that they closed some of the rides, so not all of them were even available, which is very.
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I imagine they probably closed it because they're doing a gay night. They probably have less business that night. And if they're doing a gay night, they're probably trying to grab some pink dollars in a slow season when it's normally slow. So they'll be like, let's do a gay night to get more people in because it's slow during this time.
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But what would make more sense is to have some of the popular rights open. Like, some of the popular ones were closed. It's like the ones that people come to Six Flags to go on.
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It's like, maybe they're like, too expensive to run.
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Maybe this was end of September, September 29th.
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Yeah. I think it's a slow season for. For theme parks right before Halloween because then it gets really busy again in October. I grew up going to Six Flags over Georgia.
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That's what the man.
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I don't think it's just Georgia. You had it. Y' all didn't have it in New York.
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I don't remember seeing it. I lived in Atlanta at that Time when that was popular, I assumed that
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all Six Flags had the dancing guy.
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I'm sure they did, but I associated with Atlanta. That's why I was.
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Yeah, I went to Six Flags Over Georgia. Growing up, it was very popular to get season passes. If you got a season pass, you were really that bitch.
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The standing lines though, bitch. Flash pass.
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Only we didn't all grow up rich.
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I mean some of us had to stand in line. That's your fault.
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You're right. It was my fault as a child not being rich. So I just, I was sitting line.
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Sorry about it.
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And I also remember that. I remember I have this vivid memory of being at Six Flags waiting in the Batman line for the Batman ride or. And I was with this, this, this guy that's like friend of mine. And this song came on and I was like, oh my God, I love this song. I don't know what it is about this. I just love this song is so good. And then I got in the car that day and I was like, mom, it was a song. It was amazing. It's like, what is. It was like, wait, did you go
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to Just you and Justin went.
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Me and it was me and my friend. My mom would drop us off.
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How old were you at this point?
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7th, 8th grade.
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Going to 6th grade yourself?
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Used to go suck dick at 12. I don't want to hear.
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Yeah, I was going to and from school though.
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I don't want to hear.
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I don't. From school. My mom wasn't dropping me at like my mom at what, seven? That's 12 years old. That's like a scary place for a 12 year old to be by himself. You don't think.
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Yeah, Glory hall is too.
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Yeah, but she didn't know I was going there. My mom was not. Contrary to probably she would not drop me off at the Glory Hole.
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The chauffeur dropped you off there?
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Yes, and he'll pick me up promptly
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at 9:00pm I, well, I mean we're not here to drag Martha Caldwell's parents, but my mom used to drop me off at the, at the Six Flags. Give us like 20 bucks or 40 bucks. And then it was actually 20. I said 40 to each other. It was literally only $20. But it was back in 1999, so.
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But you could have the whole, the whole damn meal.
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And, and I would, and my mom would drop us off like in the morning and pick us up like at night and we would spend the entire like vn entire day by ourselves. At Six Flags. I remember I had this Friend named Bam Bam. Oh, I never told you. So my mom got in the car, and I was like, I heard this song. I just obsessed with it. And she goes, what is that? It was like. It was like, do you believe in life after love?
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She's like, yo, gang.
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And I think that's a bit. And she was like. So I used to go this for name. Bam Bam Bam Bam was very, very short.
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We were in Bam Bam. Like Flintstones?
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Yes, like. Like Flintstones. Bam Bam was very short. Like, he looked like he was probably in fifth grade. And you're like, I've been six foot two since I was in seventh grade. So Bam Bam would run through the. The line yelling, mommy, Mommy, Mommy. I'm looking for, like, just going. Cutting through people. And then I would follow him. Going, going, has anyone seen my brother? Has anyone seen my brother? Where's my Bam?
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You're a fucking. You've always been a con.
C
And then we would get to the front of the line, and then we would just.
A
You've always been a con. You are so fucking sneaky.
C
I felt bad doing it. So Bam Bam Bam Bam always wanted to do it. And I was like, bam Bam, we can't. Like, this is so shady. But Bam Bam was like, I'm doing it.
A
I want to hear from Bam Bam. Because now Bob is like, I literally wanted to have. It was all his idea. I wanted to have nothing to do with it. But you was benefiting off of it.
C
Well, we will not be hearing from Bam Bam. But, yeah, that was. I did, like, once or twice. But then Bam always wanted to do it. I was like, bam, Bam. This is. This is so shady. Then we would also go to this one space where you would get splat. Like, there's this, like, canoe would come down. And then I think everything has one of these. And then you stand on a bridge and you just get completely soaked. And I always wanted to do that every time. It was, like, the first thing I wanted to do. But then you walk around all day with just wet clothes.
A
What? I recently went to Disney with Pixie Aventura, and I'm not a big. You're not a big Disney gay either. I'm not a big Disney gay.
C
I like Disney stuff, but I'm not a Disney gay. It is not like it's a whole thing.
A
Well, it's a community of people who. The gays. They love Disney, like, a lot. Sadie Pines, Todrick and Todrick and Michael Bramblia Brambilla. They like Raven Martin. Her part. Raven's Partner. They like, have season passes and they go like multiple times a week to go to Disney. But I was like, how? What are y' all doing there? And they're like, well, it's different. We go. We don't go on the rides. We'll go to have dinner and we'll go to, like, get on one thing,
C
like driving all the way to Anaheim for dinner. For. For expensive ass dinner.
A
They love Disney.
C
I am not a theme park gay. I do not go to a lot of theme parks. I. The last time I went to a theme park was with Luis.
A
We went to Universal in la.
C
We went to. Both went to Florida and la. I don't remember which one was last, but Universal.
A
LA is trash. I'm sorry. I mean, I thought it was nice compared to Orlando. Universal. Orlando Universal is a lit.
C
I mean, it's small. I don't think it was trash. It's just small.
A
The rides, they can't do as good as. They can't do as good as Orlando for sure.
C
I mean, I. I'm not a connoisseur and I'm not. It's kind of like coffee. I can't tell bad coffee from good coffee. When someone's like, this coffee is bad, I'm like this. Honestly, this just tastes like coffee to me.
A
Yeah, that's what me with liquor. All light liquor and all dark liquor taste the same to me. Yeah, like vodka and tequila.
C
Like.
A
Like they make me feel different, but they taste the same.
C
What if. What if it's a gold tequila?
A
Tequila gold tastes the same as tequila blanco to me.
C
No, that tastes. But you think tequila and vodka, for
A
sure, they taste the same. They make me feel better, like tequila. I don't get hangovers.
C
You mean the way you feel, but you think taste the same.
A
They taste the same on my tongue. They taste the same to me. And rum, Rum, like rum, bourbon, scotch whiskey, they all taste the same to me.
C
Well, rum comes in. Rum comes in, like brown and clear.
A
Right? I'm saying so. So.
C
So the clear rum tastes like vodka.
A
Yeah. All the clears taste the same to me. All the browns taste the same to me. That is, again, they make me feel differently and I feel different effects from them.
C
If you put the liquors in front of me and I smell them, I can tell you what's really without a.
A
I try this on the podcast one
C
day it will be so easy. I'll be like, vodka, tequila, rum.
A
Can we do that?
C
Absolutely.
A
Gonna do it. And I'm not drinking this month, so I can't. I Won't drink it.
C
Me either.
A
But they. If. But I can't really drink it tonight. I can't tell you. But if I was to do.
C
I'm sure whatever Jacob's bringing in here, he knows what it is.
A
No, I'm saying.
C
But we're not wringing it out of a taste.
A
I'm taste. I'm going by taste.
C
Just drink it.
A
No, Just drink wine. Okay, you know what? I'll drink it if. Kim, can we split it? You go first, and I'll do the second half, and then we do a
C
little bit of crack after that.
A
Oh.
C
But, yeah, I mean, I just. Part of me feels bad because I do want to talk about theme park, but I don't have a lot. I don't have a lot of experience.
A
But what are the questions? Did we look at the question?
C
Have you seen. Have you seen the documentary Action park?
A
No.
C
Class Action Park?
A
No.
C
Okay. You don't know about Class Action Park?
A
I love Ivy Park.
C
Okay. Action park was in New Jersey, and it was this, like, park where this guy would do these crazy, crazy rides. And the ride was just like, wow, complete, like, bananas, bunkers, all this crazy stuff. But then people were kept dying at the park, so.
A
So he made up his own theme park in New Jersey.
C
But he couldn't get insurance, so he ended up making. He ended up starting his own insurance company.
A
That is crazy.
C
And then people were dying. Like, a lot of people died at this park.
A
Sidebar. Your little. Your little friend Beth. Whatever. The one in. In not Culver City. What's the tech place? The big Silicon Valley. The one you brought up on the park as who, like, made some machine that tests whatever.
C
Oh, no, my friend. Yeah, her name is the one from the scammer.
A
Beth Goldstein.
C
The scammer. I don't forget her name. She has a crazy Elizabeth Holmes up hair. Yeah, what about her?
A
It's, like, getting wild now. I started listening to this podcast all about it. Why are you breathing so heavy? Water. This nigga about to. You about to inhale. You must inhale the booze. That's literally water.
C
This is. That's tequila.
A
Water and tequila, which I thought this was. Even though it's a vodka, we're like,
C
okay, so tequila smells buttery. Tequila smells a little bit like butter. Smell it. Tell me that. That a little buttery there. And the more expensive it is, especially if it's a gold. It has butter. It has, like, a buttery smell to it.
A
I don't. No, I don't smell butter.
C
I used to be Why'd you do water?
A
Because y' all don't have liquor here.
C
Yeah, I was like, what? I was like, what in the.
A
Can you tell the difference between different wines?
C
Kind of. I mean, not really have to drink all of it. There's. There's sweeter, there's sweeter wines. Like, a rose is a little bit sweeter than a dry. Like a Chardonnay is a little more dry than a rose. The Merlot's, you know, I know what. You know what wines are red. Like, if I name a wine where. You know if it's red.
A
Yeah. Like, Cabernet is a red wine.
C
How about Merlot?
A
Merlot is a red wine.
C
How about a Sauvignon Blanc?
A
Sauvignon Blanc is white wine because it
C
got a Blanc in it. Yeah, yeah.
A
Anyway, okay, so class action.
C
BEAM barks so Class Action park is a documentary about this. The insanity of, like, this place where people are getting, like, electrocuted in the swimming pools. People were like. They would. They would send mannequins on these things. They would come back completely decapitated. There was this one I don't like.
A
Oh, my God.
C
Spoiler alert.
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Is this.
C
This is your spoiler alert. I'm gonna give you five seconds to off now. Hbo. There was this one, like, a water slide where you would, like, loop around. Like, you would go through the slide, but you would, like, end up doing a full circle. But the way it would happen is people would just, like, you would loop around and then your people's faces were hitting the loop and they would come out like, nose is broken. So instead of, like, oh, my God. Instead of redesigning it, they just put padding in it. So when you grind, you would hit the padding, but people have their mouth open. There were teeth in.
A
No, they were not.
C
Monet watched the documentary Class Action Park. Action Park. It's about Action Park.
A
That is crazy. Yes. And what happened to him?
C
It got shut down.
A
It was him. They reopened it so he didn't go to jail. When it got shut down?
C
I don't remember. You know, I watched a lot of documentaries.
A
That is crazy.
C
Yeah.
A
Okay, what is it? What is a favorite ride that you've ever been on in a theme park?
C
There's a. There's a roller coaster called Rocket at Universal Studios.
A
Yes. With the music.
C
Yeah, and it plays music. And I always.
A
That one is good.
C
I always listen to a Pump it by the Bike Eyed Peas.
A
I don't remember.
C
You don't know Pump It.
A
I don't remember what I listened To. Yeah.
C
As you're going down, it's like, like.
A
Yeah, that one is a good one. It's a really good one.
C
The rocket is everything.
A
My favorite one is Kingda ka at.
C
King the ka.
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Kingda ka at Six Flags New Jersey. It's wild.
C
Bitch.
A
There is a new.
C
What does it do? What's great about it?
A
It just goes really high. I think it's the highest roller coaster in America. It's crazy. It's like, bitch, you are kissing God. It's insane. What is I saying? Oh, there's this new Wonder Woman. Bob, when I tell you this Wonder Woman ride, I would never. So it is. You know, they have it. Oh, it's Kingdom. It's the highest roller coaster in America.
C
You're literally vertically falling down, Bob.
A
It's insane.
C
So you're just on your back.
A
Maybe a little picture. Put the image of it.
C
You're on your back looking directly at the sky.
A
Vertical. You're a vertical. You are. Yes. You were perpendicular to the ground.
C
Couldn't be me. Would never be me.
A
You want to do that?
C
No. I used to be terrified of roller coasters.
A
But you would go every. For 8 hours, 12 hours a day.
C
I wasn't doing all the roller coasters, so I used to be really, really terrified of roller coasters. I would go to Six Flags for like the, the, the, the, like the small rides, the entertainment, that kind of stuff. And then one day, one of my friends convinced me to get on one of the roller coasters and I was like, it's actually not that bad. Yeah, we had one in Atlanta called acrophobia. Acrophobia was a free fall roll. It wasn't. It was just like. It was just a tube with. But the people would sit in a circle around this. This pillar, like a tower. Wow.
A
I did that one in Universal.
C
And everyone's in a circle around and it just goes. It just goes up and then it just drops. It was called acrophobia.
A
My stomach is in my fucking throat
C
and I did not do that one. I would only do the roll the roller coasters. And I only. I, as a rule, I only do roller coasters that do this.
A
This isn't Rocket does this.
C
The rocket does this. It does for sure. This. No. Those of you watch, join the patreon. You can see the video, Bob.
A
Okay, That's. They have the bars to secure you in.
C
This is me and my life and my rules.
A
You can.
C
You can get on any roller coaster you want. You'll probably crazy as probably roll the Fucking CYC at fucking Coney Island.
A
I've never been to Coney Island. As a New Yorker, I've never. Isn't that crazy? I've never been to. Let's take a break. I'll tell you why.
C
Yeah.
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C
Why have you never been to Coney Island?
A
So it all started when Beyonce was filming Xo and then she had invited me to come be in the video and then randomly took my invitation away. And ever since then.
C
Why have you never gone to Coney Island? You just never went.
A
I just never gone. I know, right? Isn't that weird?
C
I never, I never really there for 12 years. You were born and raised there.
A
Yeah.
C
That's a whole different. That's a whole different fancy. Yeah, I, I remember hearing about the Cyclone, which is at 1. Which at 1 point was like the oldest standing wooden roller coaster in America. And I was like, could never be me, would they? Torn. It's torn down now.
A
Is it torn down?
C
They tore down Cyclone. When I lived in New York City or at least shut it down. They were like, no more. It is a Rick. It is. It is completely made of wood gag and of course metal for the tracks. But like the structure holding it up is just wood. And I think, and I think the bottom half of the wood, is it over the water? Can you look that up, Jacob? It wasn't over the water. It Was over sand. I was saying the half. Bottom half is just deteriorating wood underwater. No, never. Not once.
A
Back to Wonder Woman. So Bob the Wonder Woman. So you know the rides that go. That go like this. They go like this.
C
Yeah.
A
Right. So this is Wonder Woman. It does that, but it goes at a full. This. It doesn't go all the way around, but it goes to this way. Right?
C
It does that. So you're looking at the sky.
A
You're looking. No, because. Because. So you sit. You sit in like a wheel. Because it's called the lasso. So you sit in a wheel facing the outside. Kind of like that ride you were describing before. And that spinning.
C
So you're upside down at one point.
A
So it's the thing.
C
But you. When it goes upside down, you must be.
A
Yeah, like, you. Like your head is to the ground, but it's also spinning while it's. So it's going. Spinning. Spinning this way and moving this way. And you're watching. I'm like, this is.
C
So it's rotating.
A
It's rotating. And then also. Is that oscillating?
C
Oscillating.
A
Penduluming.
C
Oscillating with something. Well, pendulum. You have to have like something hitting something.
A
No, pendulum is just when something swings this way. The pendulum swings both ways.
C
I don't know. I feel like the pendulum normally hits something. No, I know oscillating is like this.
A
Y' all saying is that. But this is. It's rotating. It's rotating and then penduluming at the same time. It's insane to watch. I'm like, I would never do that ride.
C
And it's.
A
It's not even penduluming slowly.
C
It's like. I mean, as a rule, I only. I only do the roller coasters that go over the show and go forward. You gotta let me finish. And I'm not.
A
I'm not.
C
I don't want to be upside down. I don't.
A
You don't like loopty loops?
C
No.
A
If this.
C
I've gone upside down. It's happening.
A
Rocket has a loop de loop.
C
But I'm not going to be anything that's spinning around and flipping upside down.
A
And I want to ride a roller coaster for you. I just feel like this. Y'.
C
All.
A
The screams I would hear from you.
C
I don't scream. Why would I lie to you? Okay.
A
Not scream. Like.
C
Like, I don't.
A
You're not. You're. You're.
B
Bob.
A
I don't scream, Jacob. You know what I'm talking about?
C
I don't do that. I don't scream. At all around the coast.
A
I want to test that theory. Do you think you would have a video, one of those, you know those videos they have of two black. It's always two black friends. One either loses a wig and passes out and what that just Bob is
C
like also, I mean I don't fake. You're the one who. You're the one who screams.
A
When do I scream?
C
There's a video of you jumping off a thing with a wig on going, can we pull that video up, please?
A
That's different. I thought I was falling to my desk.
C
So you, so you. So you scream.
A
I never said. I never said. I don't scream.
C
Say, when do I scream?
A
I asked you. You told me. And I believe you see how that works?
C
Whenever I'm the real guy, I'm pretty chill. It's usually me. Like there's some grunting and like, like grinding of my teeth. But typically speaking, I do not. I'm not. I'm not a screamer on roller coaster. What I. I say woo a lot. I do love like.
A
Okay, can we go for the Patreon? I think this could be a Patreon exclusive. Let's do it this way because we woke up long ass arms where you and I get some camp. We'll get a videographer. We'll go to Six Flags and writes. We'll get flash passes because I don't waiting lines. And you and I will do some rides together because I want to test this theory. If you don't scream, you don't scream. And you know what? I want you to. Let's wait till you get to get your new little vocal cords. We're going to test them out on Six Flags.
C
Well, considering that we're not doing it in the next two weeks, yeah, I imagine that we're going to wait until I get good.
A
We can do it tomorrow.
C
I'm busy.
A
What you doing Friday?
C
I'm filming a TV show.
A
Sunday, recovering from filming a TV show. Okay. What I also love at theme parks. And I know you love this too. Funnel cakes.
C
Yeah, I love phone cake. Funnel cake is.
A
Funnel cakes are everything. But the ones at theme parks though just. They just hit different. Because they. At Six Flags they do the churro funnel cakes and churro funnel cakes and they put a little caramel sauce and the other little accoutrements on it. It's so good.
C
Can I tell you what I really love? When they do the scary stuff at. When it's. When it's haunted. Like haunted horror nights or Ooky Kooky spooky, Disney night or whatever.
A
I don't. I'm not like, oh, I want that. I'm not like, this is whatever. Because nothing really changed. They just put cobwebs on everything.
C
They open up. They have like several haunted houses.
A
Really?
C
Yeah.
A
I've never been to a haunted.
C
Universal does like several haunted houses. And I went through like all of them with. When I was on work the world, we in Florida, we went to like every single haunted house. And it's always interesting who you go with. Like, I actually like going with the screen. The ones who scream, they're the funnest ones to go through with. I guess folks who are chill are not fun to go through on houses with.
A
I was not fun once I went and worked the world. Europe. Naomi and I were on the same tour. And then it was one of those double decker buses and everyone was downstairs playing video games. And she went upstairs, whatever. And then I finished. I went upstairs to go ask for something. And she was in her bunk, right? So she's on her phone and she had her curtain like closed. Not all the way, like just to hair, so you can still see her face out. And I was not trying to be spooky and scary or whatever. And I was just like. I just walked up. I wasn't like sneaking around. I was like. I was like, hey, girl. She let out the biggest scream like I was fucking murdering her. But she's like, oh, my God.
C
I was like, I can't imagine Emmy screaming.
A
Ask her. We always talk about it. She always like, monet, you really got me. I was like, I wasn't trying to scare you.
C
I can't.
A
I was asking you something.
C
Yeah, I remember whenever I get scared, it's never from jump scares. What scares me the most is when something is like. If something is not in a place, I turn around and then there's something there that scares me. But people jumping and grab me almost never scared me. But someone appearing out of nowhere every single time. Every time. Almost every time I get on the elevator, someone's in there, it scares me.
A
Elevator. He's not anticipating everyone, but. But no one was there. But you didn't see no one being not there before.
C
So I wasn't expecting is what it is. Like. It's not about seeing. It's like if I'm turning around and I expect someone and they're all of a sudden there, it scares me. God. Okay, there's this. I remember I was. I got. I like, there's one lady in my building Every time I see her, when I come out of the elevator, she. I get scared. And she's like, in your building here. Me and as is building. And I think she thinks I'm doing
A
a bit, but she's like, oh, this is our thing.
C
No, she's, like, annoyed. She's like, really?
A
She said that?
C
Yeah. One time. She was like, really?
A
No.
C
And I was like, yeah, really. You scared me. I said, sorry, I got scared. What do you want? That's what I said.
A
But I never. I never dabble in, like, my favorite.
C
It's a fair. It's food for a street fair or something. The best. When I get the most excited. A street fair. I see cold horn on the cob with all the cheese and the chili and the chili powder and the butter. No, that is the best. No street fair snack ever. The.
A
The only Mexican food I don't like is
C
the corn.
A
Yeah, really. Mexican corn. I do not elote. I do not. I don't like that. Like parmesan cheese and the cojita and
C
the chili in the. In the lime sauce is so good. When I say that, I'm like, I will. I don't care what diet I'm on. I will eat that.
A
No.
C
Every single time.
A
Do you know what I got?
C
What?
A
I shouldn't tell you because you're doing so well in your little diet.
C
You can tell me.
A
And then I had a bet, and the bet was that if he won, I would get him levaine cookies. I got levaine cookies. They were at my house today.
C
Oh, that sounds like there's a van here.
A
No, you can order them and they send them overnight to you. Bitch. I opened the box and they were still warm.
C
Concerning, probably. They were waiting outside for your couch for three hours. What I noticed is levain cookies. They're like biscuits, bitch.
A
They're the best cookies I ever had in my life.
C
Would you agree?
A
Except for the ones Patty bought to that thing that time.
C
Yeah, Patty's little secret cookies.
A
He showed me where they are.
C
Why would he tell us?
A
Because it's for. It's for the house of exchange only.
C
Anyway, I don't want to. I don't want to.
A
Do you. Do you engage in fair stuff? Like, I never got into, like, the squirt gun thing.
C
Okay?
A
There's a big culture, people. Kim loves this. She loves fair, like, stuffed animals. Kim is also really good at clogging. Have you ever seen Kim do claw games?
C
No.
A
She gets it almost every time.
C
Her birthday partner. I did see her when we split apart for A second. She came back with a bunch of prizes.
A
She's good at the claw game, but there's a specific skill. But at fairs and stuff, I don't like shooting the thing or throwing the rings or shooting the basketball. I don't get.
C
I love it. I don't. I don't want the. I don't. I do not like. I do not like stuffed animals.
A
Same.
C
They're such a waste of space. And I'm not interested in having them in my home.
A
I don't like.
C
But I do like winning them and I'll give them someone.
A
Well, Justin, you're just competitive. You like winning at anything.
C
Yeah, I mean, I'm not competing against anyone. It's just like me competing myself.
A
Right.
C
But I do like to win and I like to give it to a kid at the fair. They always love that. If you win a big teddy bear and give it to a random kid, they go crazy.
A
Oh, Mr. Super Cool.
C
And I say, did you just misgender me, little shit? Yeah, man.
A
Okay. Because I don't want to, you know, Pixie dick everything. So personally, I went to. I went to Disney because Pixie loves Disney. Again, I'm not a Disney gang. And we went. Bob, you know, Pixie is very. She had a schedule. We got a. This Pixie had a little mom.
C
She vacationed like a lesbian.
A
She pixie vacations like a lesbian.
C
Yeah, bitch. We.
A
Bob. We left LA at 7am we were at Disney from 8am until 5pm Nightmare. A full day nightmare.
C
That's a full time job.
A
A full time job, bitch.
C
There were employees who came and went while you were there.
A
I know.
C
And their employees, like, these niggas still here.
A
And Dizzy was cute. The best rides were, though. The Incredicoaster. It's like the only, like, real, like, roller coaster they have, which was really fun.
C
Did you see the Roman characters?
A
The who?
C
The Roman cat were like Mickey Mouse and stuff out there.
A
Yeah, I didn't engage in that.
C
Do you know, like, the rules about these characters?
A
What?
C
They cannot take their heads off under literally any circumstances. Do you know this? Literally? There is not a certain single circumstance.
A
That's not true. It's true.
C
But this is 100% true.
A
If there's something going down and I'm Mickey, bitch, I'm taking my fucking head off. What you gonna do, fire me? Bye.
C
That's what they'll do.
A
So, Lex, there's like a fucking. What do you say? Literally no circumstances. Fire.
C
Literally no circumstances. There is not a. If you vomit in your helmet you have to. I'm telling you, this is true. Yes, it is real. Jacob. Click, clickety clackity.
A
Can we have a Disney employee? Kashani.
C
They, first of all, Disney play would never. If they want to keep their job, they would never come in here and
A
say, y' all chime in, chime in the comments and let us know. That's true.
C
There's. There is literally no way.
A
Jacob. Just saying it's true. I don't know what Jacob now to
C
consider, though, is any. Anytime there's a character walking around, they're really close to a tunnel or someplace to get backstage. So it's not like if you throw up in your helmet, like you have attendants. Like, there aren't characters who are just like, if you throw open your helmet, you're not going to wander around with a vomit for like half an hour.
A
Right. But it best if I throw my
C
depends if you're sick or so. I don't know. But what I will say is there is literally no excuse and they have these really strict schedules. So, like, Mickey Mouse will never bump into Mickey Mouse. So if Mickey Mouse ever bumps into another Mickey Mouse, you're both fired. If you trip and fall, your head cannot come off. You also are not allowed to go out publicly and say that you are Mickey Mouse.
A
I bet you.
C
You have to say like, I'm. I'm a. You have to say like, I'm a friend of Mickey Mouse, but you can't say, I do Mickey Mouse at the park.
A
They better have fans in there. I'm sure they have fans getting them cool, because there's no way those things are cool.
C
They're also incredibly expensive. And the color of Mickey Mouse's shoes are this, like super duper specific color of yellow that is owned by Disney. Also, do you know this Disney World is larger than Manhattan?
A
Yeah, we talked about this on the podcast before.
C
That is crazy.
A
It's pretty big.
C
Disney World is larger than Manhattan?
A
Yeah.
C
That's wild. You are 9 million people in Manhattan. Is it roughly 6 million, 6 or millions? There are millions of people in Manhattan.
A
Millions. People probably go to Disney World a day.
C
Not 9 million probably.
A
How many? What do you think is the average visit? I'm gonna say 2 million a day. A day?
C
I think they probably get around 500,000.
A
I say 2 million, Jacob. See if you can figure it out. That'll be great.
C
Population of Manhattan. Manhattan has a population of what? I think in New York City, I guess New York has a population of 9 million. Manhattan's 1.6 million.
A
Oh, wow.
C
There's no way that Manhattan has. I think Manhattan has like 6 million visitors a day or something. People commuting through and stuff like that. Maybe. But anyway, 1.6 million people. Disney World keeps all their statistics private, but on their website, it says an average of 250,000.
A
Oh, yeah.
C
8.8.4. Yeah. 9 million people live in New York City.
A
Do you know that Miley Cyrus rented out Disney for her birthday? The one in la. So not Disney. Not World World. Disneyland. How much do you think it costs? How much do you think it cost Miley Cyrus to rent out Disneyland? From 6 to close. How much do you think that is?
C
When do they close? Well, that's important.
A
Six. She had it from six to close.
C
When do they close?
A
I think they closed 11.
C
So 6pm to 11 hours. I mean, it probably cost her.
A
I say a million bucks.
C
Probably close to a million dollars if not. Yeah, I mean, they probably also had. It was probably like, pared down too.
A
Yeah. I'm sorry. Every writer, she probably, like, give them like a list of, like.
C
It was like, gay. Like gay nights.
A
Probably.
C
Probably Miley nights.
A
A million dollars. Honestly, I watched an interview of her talking about, like, Miley's about Hannah Montana, how that really her up, like, growing up, and I was like, damn, I can't imagine. It was really engaging.
C
We go to Monoland.
A
Tyra Banks's place.
C
Yeah.
A
It never launched.
C
I don't think it ever. I said, would you go to Monolith Away?
A
I mean, it wasn't anything that I need. It was like, basically to give, like, an influencer experience. Like, they'll give like a makeover, hair, makeup, and maybe you can learn to
C
take pictures, like a good picture.
A
Okay, maybe I could.
C
Could you use that?
A
I don't want to.
C
Is there, like a theme park that you're like, this does not speak. I want to go to Dolly World, too.
A
I want to go to Dolly World. I've never. I've. I've heard about it. I've never went.
C
Dolly Land.
A
Dolly World. No, Dolly Land. Dollywood.
C
Dolly Space.
A
There's also random ones, like Hershey Park. Here was a Hershey Park.
C
Is it Hershey, Pennsylvania?
A
Yeah, that's the word. That's a little.
C
That's where Peppermints from.
A
Peppermints from Hershey.
C
Hershey, Pennsylvania.
A
That's like the old chocolate peppermint.
C
She's her town and her pronouns the exact same.
A
Hershey. Oh, that was pretty good. But there's. There's rye. Oh, my God. Have you ever been To Rye Playland in New York.
C
Rye Playland?
A
Uh huh. It's up to. Not upstate, it's some like White Plains.
C
Absolutely not.
A
We went and that was our field
C
trip and why I gotta be white points? No, I, I don't, I don't do it. I mean I've never been to like a Ren Fair. I used to go to the state fair when it came to Columbus, Georgia,
A
all the state fair. That is so southern. We didn't have state fairs in New York. At least I don't think so.
C
Well, we had. Well you don't. You have to have a space like the state fair is in like a mass. Like the safe area would be in the. Would be in the parking lot of the convention center. So the whole parking lot would be turned into the state fair. And I remember we would mow yards, we'd cut grass in the neighborhood to be able to raise enough money to
A
go to the state fair.
C
To go to state fair.
A
And what's at the state fair?
C
Ferris wheels, cotton candy, funnel cake. The games, entertainers, the people who guess your weight and stuff. There was a thing at Six Flags when I was younger in high school. It was a big thing where Six Flags made this rule that to work at Six Flags you cannot have cornrows
A
work, dreadlocks, girl, so many places.
C
Or an Afro.
A
If you, if you, if your ass is black, you cannot work here.
C
I mean that was a, it was a huge controversy. They were like if you. And I think braids is on the list too.
A
I'm sure bitch, they ain't new.
C
Is that wild?
A
Sounds about 19. Before 19, what's what? 2015.
C
I said when I was in. Okay, okay. You see, I heard you say some 19. I did say high school. I don't know when you think I went to High School.
A
1992.
C
I did not go to high school.
A
1992.
C
I went to high school in the year 2000. I first.
A
Well, you look like you could have been in high school with your 6 foot 2 ass.
C
I first started high school in, in 21 years ago.
A
Ill. Wow.
C
There are a lot of people that listen to this podcast who went to high school over 21 years ago. You think they're gross too?
A
You know, one of our. One of my favorite patrons I always see your comment is Mary. Mary Jill.
C
Yeah, from Georgia.
A
Georgia.
C
I was kind of hi Georgia. Do you know that quote? It's like on QVC and someone's like, hi, my name is Amber, I'm from Georgia. She goes, hi Georgia.
A
You know you Know this podcast with Monet and not Mateo, Right?
C
Okay. That's why I asked you. Mateo would know already.
A
I know what I'm saying.
C
Hi, Judge Bobby.
A
Of course I know that quote. I love Liza.
C
Well, you know, is that your Liza, your material impersonation?
A
Yeah.
C
Who do you think you do the best impersonation of Mona exchange outside yourself?
A
Monet. I don't know. Probably Whoopi Goldberg.
C
You do a very good Whoopi Goldberg. Yeah, your Whoopi is chef's kiss. I do not do a very good Whoopi Goldberg. I do a great Monet exchange doing Whoopi Goldberg. You always start by saying the same thing. We can say it on three. Start your will, because we're gonna say, ready? One, two, three. You know.
A
Well, you know.
C
Well, you know.
A
That's what she always says on the View.
C
Well, you know.
A
Okay, so what do you think you've done that is controversial?
C
I don't. I don't think my opinions are controversial. I mean, I think that I engaged in some. Well, I did one thing one time with some fan. There have been a few times where I've been really mean to fans online work, like, there. If I don't like what someone's saying online, I'll just. I'll just probably, like, tell. Instead of being, like, diplomatic and kind, I'll just tell them to shut up. I do that a lot online, actually.
A
This is controversial is you instigated the whole Tamisha Mon thing. I mean, you were very. There was. You created that situation. Absolutely.
C
This sounds like when Trump said that Obama created it.
A
I would say something. You were very. It would be very inflammatory, and you would definitely created it. Yes, for sure. I think that's something very controversial that you did.
C
I can say. I can see that maybe I inflamed the situation. I don't know that I created it.
A
Bob is big mad. I don't owe you my devotion just because my dick was in your mouth.
C
Oh, when I argue with that guy.
A
Your limp, musty. And you said your limp, musty dick that you traveled to me to deliver. I ordered you like grubhub, except it wasn't what I ordered.
C
That person was mad at me because I said because. Because of you. Because I. Because you and Isaiah Banks fighting, then me jumping in, and then. Then me and old hookups are fighting.
A
So why you? Why did you jump in?
C
You're right. I should have not done that.
A
You shouldn't. Mind your business.
C
No, the next time, I'll let you flip flop and Lize. Banks, whoop that ass by your spot.
A
Nothing over here, baby. She was gathered.
C
I thought you retweeted her.
A
That is so funny. Gays are. Gays are appropriating horse culture with ketamine and harnesses. That is so funny.
C
She is great.
A
You know, she just. In her house making soap, married to the Jewish guy she just married and just, like, just spiraling. She's working, Is she? I mean, she just did the queue in New York City. I was like, work? That's interesting, but what do you mean that the gay bar would hire their Max of everything she said? Did she?
C
She also did Bushwick.
A
That's what it was. She did good. She did Bushwick. Yeah. I mean, that is crazy. Gays are rotted, filthy faggots that are gonna die and a rotten of AIDS Crazy.
C
She made some points, had this great video online where she goes, guys, I just saw. I don't even want to. I don't want to misquote it, so I will just play it for you. Big shout out to Chikatita, who is an amazing drag performer based out of. And I'm. I'm probably saying her name fully wrong, but this video tickles me.
A
So a lot of people don't know this, but Azalea Banks with that Bushwick this weekend, and I had the chance to talk to her backstage. She was really nice, though. Like, she was. She was mad sweet. And at one point, she was like, oh, you're never gonna be a woman. You're never gonna pass. And she made some points. Work. Yeah, that was. Guys. All right. Headlining a Bushwick. I was like, work, work.
C
Anyway, she did a vita.
A
Really? I don't think that's true. No.
C
She played Evita in a recent production of Evita Work.
A
Okay, well, that makes more sense.
C
I love you very much. We had an awkward end there, but we. We circled back around.
A
Wasn't awkward.
C
And I knew you're gonna say it wasn't awkward. I feel like.
A
I feel like. I feel. I think this is kind of like a conference resolution. I feel like you feel things and you begin to project things from what you've done onto me. I was. I was.
C
What I'm saying. Well, awkward is a. Is a matter of opinion, right? So something can both be awkward and not awkward. So I think typically on our podcast, we'll, like, I don't. This is not an argument. It's just a little awkward. Like, for example, I'll say something like, I love apples, and then you and I will both riff about apples, but it's awkward when. When like say something.
A
The floor is wet
C
work.
A
Well, no, but. No, that's not what happened. You asked me. You was like, you were like, tell me I could talk about my thing. I was like, no, you said, you said. You said I'm contradiction.
C
Very controversial. You're not controversial. You know.
A
No, no, that's not why. See, you said. You said, am I? He's like, I'm not a controversial. I was like, no. I was like, no, you're very controversial. And you were like, how am I controversial? You said something else. I was like, you're right, you're not controversial. So you're not controversial. And you were like, Monica, you just said. I was like, I just thought about it. How is that awkward? I think, but I think you may be projecting your own thing. Ought to be.
C
I didn't, I did. I did not say that you thought it was awkward. I would say it's awkward from my perspective.
A
Okay.
C
I didn't, I didn't say Monet thought this was awkward. And that would be. How would I know that? I would have no way of saying that.
A
I think it was a normal flow of conversation like we normally have on the podcast. And then you have made it into a little thing because I genuinely was just. I didn't think anyone think was drinking.
C
I mean, to what kind of thing?
A
Whatever that was that you felt.
C
What did I make it into, though?
A
What do you mean?
C
Like, I made it to the thing you.
A
You made into something that you felt like was awkward. So whatever that was, I didn't have any parts in that. I was just engaged like we normally do on a podcast.
C
You're just over there on your own.
A
Yeah, pedal a bell on my own.
C
Anyway, bye.
A
Peace.
B
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Date: November 17, 2021
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
This episode of Sibling Rivalry features Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen diving into memories and hot takes about theme parks. As always, their conversation zigzags through pop culture, geography, personal nostalgia, and a lot of sharp, unscripted banter. The theme parks conversation unfolds alongside tangents about iconic movies, music, LGBTQ culture at amusement parks, favorite rides, and behind-the-scenes theme park trivia.
Monét and Bob’s chemistry is on full display as they weave between silly anecdotes, biting pop culture critique, and heartfelt nostalgia. The episode is equally hilarious and thought-provoking, packed with personal stories (“Bam Bam” cutting the line at Six Flags), queer culture insights, and trivia (the strictness of Disney “face character” rules). As always, the tone is irreverent, candid, and undeniably fun, balancing light-hearted teasing with moments of genuine camaraderie and introspection.
For listeners and non-listeners alike, this episode is a chaotic but joyful ode to theme parks and the queer, Black experience within them—while never missing a chance to call out the absurdities of pop culture, fame, and amusement park bureaucracy.