The One About Vulgarities

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast

Episode: The One About Vulgarities
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Date: October 10, 2022

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry is a rollicking, candid, and characteristic deep-dive into the world of "vulgarities"—as defined, dished, and debated by Monét X Change and Bob the Drag Queen. The duo’s signature blend of irreverent humor and sharp cultural commentary is on display as they swap stories about tour mishaps, reality TV moments, the complexities of drag fame, and their personal takes on what constitutes being "vulgar." As always, the conversation sprawls into hilarious anecdotes, thoughtful reflections, and plenty of shade.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Backstage Rituals & Tour Life Chaos

• The show kicks off with a behind-the-scenes look at the sometimes-chaotic process of starting a podcast and putting on live drag shows.
• Bob and Monét share frustrations with technical difficulties and laugh about their contrasting approaches to maintaining the “illusion” of a smooth show vs. letting listeners in on the mess.
  • [01:56] Bob: "It was one time specifically. We had to start like four times. And by the third time I was like, this is insane."
  • [02:30] Monét: "I think that it's professional, and I think that given that people are coming in with literally zero context, I was like, this feels like a great way to start."
• The duo reminiscences about recent tour stops in Texas, their performances alongside other queens, and gives shoutouts to their hardworking teams and dancers like the House of Jessica Couture.

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2. Funny as Family: The House Of Jessica Couture

• The personalities and talents of their supporting dancers are affectionately dissected.
  • [09:34] Monét: "They’re so funny and intuitive. They all have very different personalities. Brooklyn, who's like the young one, Kamiyah who knows all the TikTok references..."
  • [10:38] Bob: “[Bougie] really centers everyone and brings them in with his, like, overall father of the house, honey.”

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3. Drag Queens & Reality TV: Masked Singer, Dancing With the Stars, and Beyond

• Spirited discussion about reality TV competitions featuring celebrities, especially "The Masked Singer" and "Dancing With the Stars."
• The hosts debate which queens or celebrities have the most iconic or surprising appearances, and speculate what it would be like for themselves to compete—especially given their significant size as drag queens.
  • [13:24] Bob on Rudy Giuliani on Masked Singer: “I can't believe that the Masked Singer was so thirsty enough to have Rudy Giuliani on..."
  • [12:23] Bob: “We are big men. We are even bigger ladies.”
• Talk about whether doing these shows increases one’s fame and how fame is defined.
  • [25:12] Bob: “Maybe more people do know me. But I don't feel like that changes my level of fame though.”
  • [25:48] Bob (reading definition): "The state of being known or talked about by many people, especially on account of notable achievements."

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4. Celebrity, Fame & Competition Shows

• Debate about taking part in shows like "Surreal Life," "Big Brother," "Survivor," with a focus on how participating might impact—or reflect—one’s celebrity status.
• Light-hearted listing and critiquing of celebrity contestants.
  • [22:54] Bob: "I would do that for sure. I would do Survivor, I would do Celebrity Big Brother."

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5. Dedication, Genetics & Fitness in Drag

• Both hosts dig into the hard work, discipline, and, sometimes, genetics, behind those who maintain high levels of fitness—particularly those balancing busy lifestyles or drag careers.
  • [28:02] Bob: “Some people are just genetically blessed...”
  • [28:39] Monét: “[Muscly people] are just killing themselves in the gym...”
• Personal tales of intense workout regimens and how priorities shift with age.
  • [29:56] Monét: “When I first moved to New York City, I was very dedicated. I did P90X... jog two miles to the gym, then do 30 minutes cardio, then work out for an hour, then jog back.”

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6. The Delegation of Tasks in Celebrity Life

• Musings about the practicalities of famous figures like The Rock having assistants do mundane tasks, and the oddity of being physically less capable than one’s assistant.
  • [31:14] Monét: “Do you think The Rock has someone carrying his bags?”
  • [31:56] Bob: “It’s not about the assistant being stronger, it’s like, can they do it?”

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7. American vs. British English: Bum Bags & Fanny Packs

• Brief but funny digression on terminological differences, like "bum bag" (UK) vs. "fanny pack" (US), and why "fanny" means something very different in Britain.
  • [35:10] Bob: "That's what fashion has—instead of calling them fanny packs, they call them bum bags."

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8. Personalities & Family Dynamics

• Bob recounts meeting Monét's family and lovingly teasing Monét about her personality compared to her soft-spoken Uncle Steve.
  • [39:18] Monét: “Why would you want me to be soft spoken?”
  • [39:30] Bob: "No, not black people. Just you."
  • [39:41] Monét: “Now, I think I’m doing really well myself, and I don’t think I should have to change my personality because you want me to.”
  • [41:09] Bob: "Did you hear my knee crack? Like, sorry, that was girl."

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9. Vulgarity: What’s Acceptable and What’s Not?

• The episode’s titular topic is tackled as Monét and Bob debate what qualifies as vulgar behavior or language, with Monét distinguishing between distasteful and contextually inappropriate actions.
  • [40:19] Monét: “I did not say, you shouldn’t celebrate your body. All I said was, I thought it was vulgar. I didn’t say you shouldn’t do it.”
  • [40:43] Monét: “That is vulgar. Like, I think vulgarities would be like, if you probably wouldn’t do it in the middle of a graduation speech.”
• Includes humor about “vulgar” acts—grabbing body parts, swearing, or behaving raunchily on stage or in public.

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10. Sex, Sobriety, and Coming Out Stories

• In a frank and comedic exchange, both hosts reminisce about how (and when) they had their first gay sexual experiences, and the realities of hooking up under the influence.
  • [43:08] Monét: “I was a freshman in college, and I was like 18 years old… I just blew a guy in the closet.”
  • [44:47] Bob: "Did you ever probably wait for a…little bit, practice on, like…"
  • [45:55] Bob: “I’ve never had sex on drugs or alcohol ever… I don’t feel sexy. Like, I don’t want to have sex and I’m, like, drunk.”
  • [47:26] Monét (mocking Bob’s moderation): “Okay, a little stone. Okay, a couple shots, but even that, a hint of Molly. Okay. One crack rock.”

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11. Drugs, Poppers, and Club Culture

• Candid discussion about different drugs (Molly, poppers) and circuit party culture in the gay scene—what the appeal is (or isn’t) and the surprising disconnect between poppers users and non-users.
  • [48:19] Bob: “That’s like people that do poppers. I’m like, I don’t get poppers…”
  • [49:44] Monét: “I think it might have to be at the circuit party. I'm assuming.”

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12. Partying: House Parties vs. Clubs

• The hosts contrast their ideal party settings—Bob enjoys dancing at private gatherings with close friends, while Monét prefers not to dance at house parties, especially since getting sober changes the vibe substantially.
  • [51:07] Bob: “You don't like house parties?”
  • [51:17] Monét: “Partying is very different when you don’t drink. It is a completely different experience…”

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13. DJing Stories & New York Nightlife

• Both recall their experiences behind the DJ booth, the logistics of playing live, and fondly remember New York City’s queer nightlife scene.
  • [53:05] Bob (about DJing): "You can't talk to me on DJ… if you’re trying to talk to me while I’m changing the song, it’s hard to talk to them."
  • [54:32] Bob: "What I wanted to do was hire someone… But if I was to DJ, I want to do like a thing… actually DJing. Not just play a playlist."
• Reminiscing about characters at The Monster, a legendary NYC gay bar.
  • [56:34] Bob: “I haven't been to the Monster in years… and to see the usual suspects…”

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14. Body Positivity & Gender in Drag

• Hilarious discourse on drag queens’ bodies, being able to “make pecs look like titties,” and people’s shock at their physiques.
  • [57:27] Bob: “You… have, like, the Shaquitas.”
  • [57:41] Monét: "I can get the girls together. Those are titties, girl. Those are titties."
  • [57:59] Bob: “From the right angle, girl, you look like you have double Ds.”

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15. “Once in a Generation” Voices: Mariah Carey and the Art of Imitation

• Spirited disagreement over how rare Mariah Carey’s talent truly is, whether voices like Whitney Houston or Celine Dion are comparable, and what makes a singing voice "unique."
  • [59:59] Bob: "I don't think you'll ever find a voice like Mariah Carey's again... Even hard to even imitate Mariah Care…"
  • [62:46] Monét: "There's something about Ariana Grande's… upper register that's kind of sort of in a genre similar to Mariah Carey, which is why so many people make that comparison."
  • [63:12] Bob: "Ariana Grande is not the only person who sings whistle tones... tonally, I don't think that they sound the same."

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• [39:41] Monét X Change: "Now, I think I'm doing really well myself, and I don't think I should have to change my personality because you want me to."
• [40:43] Monét X Change: "That is vulgar. Like, I think vulgarities would be like, if you probably wouldn't do it in the middle of a graduation speech."
• [57:41] Monét X Change: "Those are titties, girl. Those are titties. Tell me those are not titties."
• [59:59] Bob the Drag Queen: "I don't think you'll ever find a voice like Mariah Carey's again because of like, not just like someone who can sing really well, it's just like…"
• [62:46] Monét X Change: "There's something about Ariana Grande's upper register... that's kind of in a genre similar to Mariah Carey, which is why so many people make that comparison."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:19-03:36] Starting the podcast and technical mishaps
• [04:24-09:16] Tour stories, House of Jessica Couture, and Christmas shows
• [12:05-14:58] Dancing with the Stars, Masked Singer, and celebrity size
• [17:30-21:22] Celeb reality shows: Surreal Life, Big Brother, Survivor
• [28:02-30:51] The discipline (or genetics) of fitness and body image
• [31:14-35:10] The Rock, bag-carrying, and bum bag/fanny pack linguistics
• [39:18-41:09] Family personalities and being “aggressive”
• [40:19-42:05] Defining “vulgarity,” context, and drag behavior
• [43:08-47:52] First gay experiences and drugs/alcohol and sex
• [48:19-49:44] Poppers, Molly, and the circuit party scene
• [51:07-52:59] House parties vs. clubs, and being sober at parties
• [53:05-54:32] DJing woes, joys, and NYC nightlife reflection
• [57:19-58:21] “Making pecs into titties” and drag body talk
• [59:16-63:12] Mariah Carey, imitations, and what makes a “unique” voice

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Tone & Language

True to Sibling Rivalry’s form, the episode is a mix of sass, camp, explicit honesty, and insider drag/queer culture references. Monét and Bob alternately roast, affirm, and one-up each other, creating an engaging and hilarious listening experience full of pride, vulnerability, and cultural critique.

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In Summary

If you’re seeking a tour de force of drag queen banter, candid confessions, irrepressible jokes about bodies and fame, and a surprisingly thoughtful meditation on “what is vulgar?”—this episode of Sibling Rivalry delivers in spades.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet Xchange]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm Monet Xchange.

[Monet Xchange]

And this is simply rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On today's episode, we talk about the

[Monet Xchange]

masked Stinger, we discuss vulgarity, and we

[Bob the Drag Queen]

find out what made Bomb say this.

[Monet Xchange]

Now, I think I'm doing really well for myself and I don't think I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

should have to change my personality because

[Monet Xchange]

you want me to. When we found out web made Monet exchange say this, you're like, you have pecs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's so crazy. You have, you have the, you, you, you have like the shaquitas. And we are starting. There is one time we did a podcast and we had to start so many times because you had instant problems. Do you remember this? And then every time we started, this

[Monet Xchange]

happened a couple times for us. This has happened definitely more than once.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. But it was one time or something. It was one time specifically. We had to start like four times. And by the third time I was like, this is insane. And every time we started, you wanted to act like nothing happened. It was very funny to me.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, because when you're starting a podcast, they don't know about the times we didn't do it, so what's the point of being like. But on stupid, I don't want to start a podcast being like, oh my God, guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But on Stiving rivalry, we tend to lean into the ridiculosity of it. And we're like, girl, this is the fourth time we saw this podcast. This is crazy. And Bob was like, hey, guys. And I thought it was very funny that you were acting so weird, so strange about it.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't think I was being strange about it. I don't think that's strange. I think that. I think that it's professional, and I think that given that we had note that people were coming in with literally zero context, I was like, this feels like a great way to start. It's kind of like when reality tv, they say you can't. They don't really want you to. The reason why you can't really talk off camera in Drag Race is because they're like, if something resolves or happens off camera, and then you guys come back and it has changed. It's just kind of hard to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I get all that. I understand. Civil rivalry. We are known to kind of leaning into how wild it is always to start, like, 18 times. And it was just that one. Because normally when we have something, you're like, yo, we have to do this three times. But it's one specific middle.

[Monet Xchange]

Often if we're cut off in the middle, then I'll come back and be like, all right, that the old guys have noticed a big jump here, so we're jumping in. But I think it was because we kept starting back at the beginning or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, yeah, but we were also, like. We would be like 10 minutes in, and we'd, like, be deep into something, and we'd have to. Whatever. Again, it was just signature.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't think it was strange behavior.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This one time you were just really into not breaking the illusion that we had sort of. Again, it's not a big deal. I just thought this one time was very funny, that you were just really gung ho about it. I thought it was very interesting for me, anyway, so today was the last day of our tour. The last. The last stop on this leg of our tour. We were in Houston, Texas. I was most recently in Texas when I would. Did a. What city was I in? Arlington. I did Arlington. The Arlington Improv here in Texas. It was a good time here. And before that, I haven't performed in Texas. The last time I performed in Texas was when I was here with Murray and Pia for the Christmas show. And me and Vanjie. That video of me and Vanjie on my rios when we're doing Burn, Baby Burn, Disco Inferno.

[Monet Xchange]

That's with A Christmas show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Us with a Christmas show. Yeah. Vanjie's doing Disco Inferno for Christmas.

[Monet Xchange]

Show for Christmas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, and the Merry Peter Christmas tours normally, like, the first number is like your Christmas song. And the second number, girls just kind of did whatever they felt like.

[Monet Xchange]

That's interesting. When we did it, we did. We. We did like, double Christmas. And what I saw, when I saw it, it felt like it was all Christmas. When I saw it at the. At the. The. Wherever that place was down downtown in la. The. What's the theater called?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Wheel Turn.

[Monet Xchange]

The Wheel Turn. Even Brooklyn did two Christmas numbers. Who hates. Who notoriously hates Christmas?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I don't mean. I don't know. That year, a lot of girls did that. Maybe after that, Murray and Peterson, maybe it was like, hey, girls, I would like them both to be Christmas. I don't know. But that tour, the first number, girl was. The first number the girl did was always like, Christmas. And the second one was kind of like, whatever.

[Monet Xchange]

I do remember that Kimchi just did a regular song. And then she's added Wind and Jingle Bells to it like it was just some song. And then she's added Jingle Bells and Windows. And I thought it was a Christmas song. And she goes, no, I just added. I just had someone add Jingle Bells to it. And I was like, honestly, that's very, very smart.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Imagine asking adding Jingle Bells to WAP or adding Jingle Bells to Niggas Ain't Shit But Hoes and Tricks.

[Monet Xchange]

I actually really. I thought about doing a Christmas album a couple years ago because I wrote my song Decaho. Then I also came with a song like Frosty the Bad Bitch, Rudolph the Red Bone Reindeer. And I want to do this, like, whole, like, Christmas album because I really like. I like Christmas songs. And I like. I was inspired by, like, the twelve Days of Christmas because I want twelve hundred dollars. Five months free rent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know that.

[Monet Xchange]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, who sings that?

[Monet Xchange]

I can't remember who sings it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

12. What is it?

[Monet Xchange]

I think it's like the 12 hood days of Christmas. Yes. Wait, 69 is 12 ghetto days. It is the Quad City DJ. Yeah. You never heard the song. And it's like, what you gonna get up for Christmas? So what you gonna get that girl? And then it goes. You ever heard this. Five Fresco Chains? You know the Quasi dj?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet Xchange]

You do. I don't. That was a classic for me growing up, and I was inspired by that when I wrote Decaho Beck. Oh, if she Gets Mouthy. And I just really.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the one that's the video you filmed in Hell's Kitchen?

[Monet Xchange]

Well, I did twice. Yeah, I did it in Hell's Kitchen and then I redid it again with Shangela.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right.

[Monet Xchange]

I did a remix to it with Shangela. Yeah. And it was. It was. It was. I think Princess Lockery was in it. You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Desiree was in it. That Desiree girl was in it. The one I said. You know this by name? Desiree. Desiree was in that.

[Monet Xchange]

My friend. I think my friend Shakotha was in it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know who Shakotha is.

[Monet Xchange]

Chakota. She, like, has really short hair. She's like a friend of mine who. A friend of mine who does improv and stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I do know Shakota, actually.

[Monet Xchange]

She's. She's really funny. She's a really funny act. She's from Texas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God, that's so funny.

[Monet Xchange]

Chicota. It's just cuz we're in Texas. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Cholta's from Texas. And I can't remember. Maybe. I think. I think that locker room brought a friend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Princess. Locker room.

[Monet Xchange]

Isn't Patty in it? Patty's in it. Patty's a little. A little bad bitch elf in the video. That was when me and Patty first started hanging out. Patty came by and Patty. I was like, patty, I just want you to smoke a cigarette and wear these red panties. Just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it's like that pan shot. Marty was in his zoo. That's when you like, throw a coffee in Martin.

[Monet Xchange]

I throw some coffee in Marty's face. Oh, my God. That was a fun video.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was cold too. It was like in the winter.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. I just remember Patti standing outside smoking a cigarette in these panties. And we had like. That was like the first time. I was like, patty, let's. I have an idea. I just want you to come up and be a bad bitch elf in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

my video, Patricia Meyer. And also shout out to Patty and Katie, who works very hard on this tour. They had like, a lot of job things that end up coming that they had to just end up doing last minute. And they did a great job. I'm very grateful for my little Patty.

[Monet Xchange]

And I'm also really like. So I feel so blessed to have had the House of Jessica Couture on this tour. They are. I mean, they bring so much. They bring so much to the show. Like, y' all don't even know. I mean, every dancer we've worked with brings out to the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, for sure.

[Monet Xchange]

But they.

[Shannon Maldonado]

They.

[Monet Xchange]

It's like, it's like. It's a special guest. There is. It's like special guests.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, they're great. And I love, love, love, love, love

[Monet Xchange]

that they're so funny and intuitive. They all have very different personalities. It is like four.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're almost like people.

[Monet Xchange]

No, it's just like they're so. Their personalities are so, like, dichotomous. You know what I mean? It's like Brooklyn, who's like the young one who's always screaming, but then really quiet, but then being extremely goofy. And then Kamiyah, who's always running with a chair. And Kamiyah is one who, like, she knows all the TikTok references. Whenever I reference a TikTok video. Kamaya. Oh, yeah. When they do the same OG, she always does that kind of stuff. Dyu, who just has some really brilliant stage instincts. Like, I watched dyu, and I'm like, oh, my God, who would have ever thought of that? And then I feel like D. Bougie really centers everyone and brings them in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

with his, like, overall father of the house, honey.

[Monet Xchange]

Overall father.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The father.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. I love them so much. I was looking at a video, I was saying, I was like, I'm really glad that we are, like, similar in height and size, because I wouldn't want to be, like, fucking touring with fucking someone like, my big ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you were just the whole house

[Monet Xchange]

music like me and George's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As if you ain't you and Chandra doing this all together. I have.

[Monet Xchange]

I've been around. I've done three seasons of a TV

[Bob the Drag Queen]

show, I'm saying, but, like, doing like a. A super marvel. You have to go on tour. Y' all doing dances all the. Oh, because Chant is probably the size, size and height of the rest of the house. Juicy Couture Chance about.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, she's shorter than Brooklyn. Brooklyn's. Brooklyn's about 5, 10.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Brooklyn's about your height, but Joke is also skinny.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. And Shangel's about 5, 6, or 5, 5.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She Watching Shangel dance with the stars. I'm like this. She just looks like just a little lady.

[Monet Xchange]

Some cisgender woman dancing on TV Chandelier.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just a little lady just on TV dancing. I'm like, bitch, like, if I need

[Monet Xchange]

to dance with the stars, I couldn't be in drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. That's not. Save y' all in drag.

[Monet Xchange]

Like, I'm not guessing about to be up in there some man trying to fucking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would if I deserve. I want to. I would want to be in drag. I would obviously want to. I want to feel the fantasy, honey, I would love the builder fantasy. I would feel so glamorous. I would feel so fierce. If I was in drag with some man spinning me around and putting me over his shoulders. I would love it.

[Monet Xchange]

On your shoulders?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I want to get on his shoulders.

[Monet Xchange]

Like he's like hoisting you up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. I want the full fantasy. Honestly, I think I can have that.

[Monet Xchange]

I think you deserve that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think so too.

[Monet Xchange]

I mean, there have also been some like big people on dancing, but not like us, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are big men. We are even bigger ladies. I don't think they have had. If I was to go dance with the stars, I cannot see a world where they would have had a woman bigger than me.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know who all has been on there. I know Nene Leakes has been on there. She's about. She's about five, ten.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Nene's five' ten. But I have, I've met Nene Leakes in person and I'm much. I'm large.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, it's like Leslie Jones. Like me and Leslie Jones are the same height, but I am just larger than she is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I'm just a man because.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, like I'm just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just bigger than Leslie Jones. Yeah. Wendy Williams is on it. Wendy Williams is five' ten.

[Monet Xchange]

She was nice with the stars.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she went home second.

[Monet Xchange]

She didn't do well on Masked Singer in the shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. But also Wendy's clip on that.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm a native New Yorker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. She's not even singing. She's literally just talking. Imagine. I can't believe that the masked singer was so thirsty enough to have Rudy Giuliani on the Masked Singer. Like after all that fucking dumb shit. Yes, after all the dumb shit that that fucking dumb bitch did. They had him on the Masked Singer.

[Monet Xchange]

You know, I watched the first season. I was so glad T pain won.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't watch the first.

[Monet Xchange]

Although I thought Donny Osmond was really good. Tony Osmond was a peacock. I don't pay. Was the yeti.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't understand what. So the guests, the judges are trying to guess who it is so that

[Monet Xchange]

like what the world and the judges.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. What gets you eliminated when people don't guess who you are?

[Monet Xchange]

I think it's a combination of guessing who you are and not doing a good job. I think it's like it's a double edged sword.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So like you get on there and you don't sing very well, but everyone doesn't know who you are. Do you like not Necessarily. I don't see.

[Monet Xchange]

I think Terry Bradshaw or some football player was on there, and he wasn't very good, and no one knew who he was, and they sent him home. I think it's a combination of you have to do well and them not knowing it helps. I mean, the judges. I think singing well is the one that is the most important, and I think that the judges are a lot. They're often acting like they have to. There's someone on this current season who is just clearly like, every. The harp. Have you heard the harp? I'm going to play the harp for you, and you tell me if you. If you know who this is. Like, this is. This is. It's not as obvious as when it

[Bob the Drag Queen]

was Patti LaBelle, which is hilarious, in my opinion. So far, to date, the most. The most ridiculous.

[Monet Xchange]

Like, well, no, Wendy Williams was the most. I'm a native New Yorker. I think she even said, how you doing? Like, it was insane. It was like, all right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's not even native New Yorker.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know if she was singing this. It's just a song. One day. I think people sing a lot of songs. I think someone's saying, I am titanium, but I don't think they're really titanium.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I thought it was like, her little clues or whatever.

[Monet Xchange]

I saw this video today that made me think of you. That was really. It really made me think of you. Can I play that first? It was this clip, and I was like, you know what I actually saved it under? Like, I was like, monet really is, like, this name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

An annoying thing that people base their entire personality about.

[Monet Xchange]

Here's the thing about me. I am real. I am from New York. Watch how you talk to me. Watch how you. I'm from New York. This isn't good pizza. No, I know. Real pizza. I'm from New York. I miss the seasons, you know, because here's the thing. I'm from New York, and there's seasons in New York, and that's where I'm from, New York. She looks good, but that's not real fashion. Here's the thing. I'm from New York, and the fashion in New York is incredibly. That's where I'm from. It's incredibly Miss Walking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These are not even things that I say, though.

[Monet Xchange]

It's not those things, but it is very nerdy.

[Shannon Maldonado]

But.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, I'm from New York. Well, I'm from New York. Well, it's because I'm from New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you. I mean, I. Maybe I do. I honestly don't think. I don't think I do make anything

[Monet Xchange]

from New York very often.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think so. Maybe I do. Y' all comment below if I do. I don't. No one has ever gave you that critique. But work, I really, I don't think they have.

[Monet Xchange]

All right, this is the harp.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know who it is. Amber riley.

[Monet Xchange]

Yes. Mercedes. This is riley. And everyone's like, okay, Amber, Riley, Riley

[Bob the Drag Queen]

go off when like Ken Jeong or anyone that goes. And they're like, I don't know who it is. And they revolt.

[Monet Xchange]

They're like, what? Yeah, they. Also, before I break, there was one that was really ridiculous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

1.

[Monet Xchange]

Do you remember when I. Okay, the most obvious one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pat of the bell was Kermit the Frog. Who's Kermit the Frog?

[Monet Xchange]

Kermit the Frog was on the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, it was the snail. I didn't know that.

[Monet Xchange]

And the snail.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the guy who voices Kermit the Frog was singing.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, he was like tick tock on the. That was Caitlyn Jenner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Caitlyn Jenner was on there too.

[Monet Xchange]

Caitlyn Jenner did TikTok tik tok on the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really? Let's take a break. We'll listen to Caitlin Jenna after the break.

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[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, y' all play yourselves. Play it yourselves. But it's very. What do you think of it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She sounds ridiculous and I can't Believe they engage and act like that shit. Like, she sounds ridiculous.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, the point of the best thing isn't necessary to sing great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But he's trying to trick people. And I mean, she. I mean nothing about Kate.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't think she has the ability. I think she's like, Wendy. We don't think she has the ability to make her voice not sound like her voice. I'm sure, like, Wendy's just gonna sound like Wendy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right? I think it's ridiculous. When Wendy was up there, like, well, you know, she's dressed as lips. Like, well, you know, I'm here. I'm singing my song. How you doing? That is ridiculous. It is ridiculous.

[Monet Xchange]

I really love her voice. I love accents so much. I always have a thousand. I just really love accents. I kind of loathe. Not loathe, but regret losing my accent as much as I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you don't have an American accent. You still have a southern accent.

[Monet Xchange]

No, but it's a. It's a relatively neutral American accent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but you go to the uk, they're like, oh, my God, I love your accent bulb.

[Monet Xchange]

They do not say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, they say that. I'm not specifically say about Americans. Like, when I go to the UK and they're like, when I used to hook up with guys in the uk, they would always be like, oh, man. I just. I just. I just. I just love your accent. I'm like, ew.

[Monet Xchange]

I think that. Would you ever do a celebrity show like, you know, the Surreal Life is back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it really?

[Monet Xchange]

The Surreal Life is Back. Dennis Robbins on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, God, he's. I feel like he's been on it before. The Surreal Life is. I remember I used to watch.

[Monet Xchange]

It's the first ever, like, celebrity reality TV show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I remember one of. One of the seasons I remember watching was the one with the woman, the first winner of Top Model Adrienne. That season she was on. I was like, oh, wow.

[Monet Xchange]

This Real Life cast is. Let's see. This Real Life as Christopher Knight. That's the season I watched 2022.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I read. That's the season I watched with him and Adrian. And I think they, like, dated for a while or something.

[Monet Xchange]

Tamar Braxton, Dennis Rodman, Stormy Daniels, Frankie Muniz.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was just talking about Frankie Minis with Andy. It's so funny.

[Monet Xchange]

What about him?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was saying. I was like, do you remember? I was like, do you remember the. What was the show called? Malcolm in the Middle. That was Frankie Venus.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. And Big Little Liar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, a big liar. The one he did with Amanda Bynes when, like, the guy.

[Monet Xchange]

Bryan Cranston, Big Fat Liar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Big Fat Liar. I used to love Big Fat Liar. Amanda Bynes was such an amazing actress. She was so great. The Amanda Bynes show was such a great sketch comedy show with this young woman. She was a brilliant actress. It really sucks that, like, Hollywood or whatever, the industry really fucked her up.

[Monet Xchange]

Amanda Bynes. Amanda Bynes is a very good actor. I can't find a full list of all the people. Tamar Braxton's on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me see. You don't know the name. Kim Sinclair from Living Single.

[Monet Xchange]

Is that Manny? Manny Mua.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Manny Mua. Who is this black guy?

[Monet Xchange]

He looks like Tripp from the Real World, who I was obsessed with. I mean, back in the day. Dennis Rodman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Stormy Daniels. Trump's legend.

[Monet Xchange]

August Alsina.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

August Alsina. He's the one that. That I'm. Jada Pinkett had the. What you call it?

[Monet Xchange]

Entanglement.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Entanglements.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh, that's what that is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Manny Mua.

[Monet Xchange]

Kim Coles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kim Coles.

[Monet Xchange]

CJ Perry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who the fuck is CJ Perry?

[Monet Xchange]

CJ Perry is a professional wrestler. Frankie Muniz.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Frankie Muniz looks great. He look like he has an age. A day as the cat.

[Monet Xchange]

Would you ever do a show like that, Like Alaska? Did one called, like, Beyond Scared Straight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Scared Famous.

[Monet Xchange]

Scared Famous. Oscar. Straight into prison.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Dejuan loves.

[Monet Xchange]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever seen the show? Six, 90 days in? No, those show or 60 days in. Anyway. I would, depending on what.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. What?

[Monet Xchange]

Single stars? Singer?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One, Like Dancing the Stars sounds more appealing because, like, you're working towards the goal to, like, win the Mirrorball trophy. Surreal Life. What is the goal? What are you trying to do in Surreal Life?

[Monet Xchange]

Back in the day, it was kind of like the real world for celebrities. There's also a big celebrity. Big Brother. Would you do that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would do that for sure. I would do Survivor. I would do celebrity Big Brother.

[Monet Xchange]

Is there a celebrity survivor?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There isn't. They just put celebrities on the regular season.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh, really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's like a separate celebrity one?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. Like, who have they put on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They put on, like.

[Monet Xchange]

I know nothing about survivors.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They put on football players before they put on some actors. The guy. Ever seen School of Rock?

[Monet Xchange]

One of my favorite movies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Principal, he was on it. Some actors and actresses. The principal was a woman, maybe.

[Monet Xchange]

I think it was John Cusack.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. The white guy. The white. The white guy.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know. The one that he was replacing. Maybe who Was Sarah Silverman's boyfriend in the movie?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said School of Rock so long ago, I don't remember.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure John Cusack was the principal in School of Rock that

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you mentioned in School of Rock. Cast.

[Monet Xchange]

Was it John Cusack? She's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Him, Mike White, Ned Schneebly.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, that was Sarah Silverman's boyfriend who Jack Black was replacing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Ned. He was on it. A bunch of football players have been on it. A lot of people have been on Survivor, celebrities. I would do something like that. But just living in a house of celebrities, I mean, maybe that could be fierce. It just doesn't sound like a whole bunch of fun. But I'm not close out to the idea. I'm not saying I wouldn't do it. I just. Something like Survivor, Big Brother speaks to me more. What about you?

[Monet Xchange]

Does it feel like a hit to your fame? Because there's some really famous people who do these.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Monet Xchange]

I mean, Patti LaBelle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I would do Matt Singer for sure.

[Monet Xchange]

Jewel. Jewel came with one masked singer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Todrick hall was a runner up.

[Monet Xchange]

Did really well. He was really good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Candy Burr is one masked singer.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh, did she?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So she was the archangel or the angel, something like that.

[Monet Xchange]

So it's been t pain.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know who won season two. Candy.

[Monet Xchange]

Wayne Brady win once?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think he did. I think Wayne Brady was season two, Candy was season three, and that's all I know.

[Monet Xchange]

And then Jewel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jewel, yeah.

[Monet Xchange]

So, I mean, do you. Do you think you're. Do you think that you are more famous now after doing All Star seven?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm more famous. I think I'm still the same level of fame.

[Monet Xchange]

You really think so? You don't think you. You don't think you've. That they help you reach a wider audience at all?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It has. Maybe. Maybe. I feel like there are different ways to calculate fame.

[Monet Xchange]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because drag race is sure. More people. Maybe. Maybe more people. Not maybe more people do know me. But I don't feel like that changes my level of fame, though.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, that's what fame is. How many people know you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that what fame is like, the number of people that know you? I don't think that's what fame is necessarily. Let's go back to Olson River. Let's define what is the definition of fame.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, I feel like it's probably. I think famous is most likely quantified by how many people know who you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

are, the state of being known or talked about by many people, especially on account of notable achievements.

[Monet Xchange]

So I guess if you are known by more people, then you're more famous, then you are more famous, I guess.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess I am more famous, sure. Would you do one of those shows?

[Monet Xchange]

It depends on the show I really wanted. I used to want to do Dancing with the Stars, which Shangela's on. Dancing with the Stars right now, by the way. I really wanted to do Dancing with the Stars a couple of years ago, but I wouldn't want to do it in drag because I just don't feel. But I want to wear a corset and I feel like you can't do all the stuff I want to do in a corset on the show, you know what I mean? And otherwise I just feel I wouldn't feel comfortable with my, you know, presentation on the show. But it does still look really fun to me. You know what I mean? And I feel like a lot of times in these shows they really want you in drag. I get a little bit nervous about doing this kind of stuff in drag too because like, it's like they really, they like, when you do this in there, they're like, you're going to be in drag, right? It's like they only want you in drag for some of this stuff sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. If I did Dance with Stars, I would love to Dance with the Stars a bit. Just such a. Like every celebrity, like Amber Wright talks about like doing it, like how she got into like really good shape. And like I said, I would honestly want to get into it for the physical benefits of it, but also I would have loved it. Like I said before, go dancer, I would. But like, when you have to keep that schedule, when you're trying to like get this goal, you have to like maintain the schedule of like, these people rehearse so much. They were rehearsing so much, like hours and hours a week during this rehearsal. Like when you have, when you committed to this thing, like you committing all your time to it. Whereas when there's just an extracurricular activity that you're paying for yourself, you're like, yeah, I'll do it. It'll be hard for me to do it like I would for Dance with the Stars.

[Monet Xchange]

So I think when you see someone who's like got a full time job, like 40 hours a week, and they're like, really fit, I'm like, when are you doing this? I've seen people who have full time jobs, their parents, and they're like ripped. And I'm like, when are you doing this? When are you doing this? How are you working eight hours a day, taking care of your family, and going to the gym for hours a day. Maybe. Maybe something's not getting the attention it deserves.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some people are just genetically blessed. Like, sometimes there was this TikTok, this guy talking about, you know, when people, like, pick personal trends, people pick these personal trends because, like, you know, these. This trainer might have, like, the body you want. He was like. Honestly, he was like, as someone who's a certified personal trainer, I've done the work. I've been doing this for, like, 40 years. He was like, sometimes you're just Genetically, you just have it. You just, like, genetically, you're just. Your body will get there in a way that someone who does, who is not genetically gifted in the same way can. A lot. Sometimes a lot of, like, physical stuff like that. It is genetic. It comes down to genetics. I agree.

[Monet Xchange]

A lot of people are genetically blessed, but those people who are, like, really muscly is. Especially if they're not, like, doing, like, anabolics or anything. They are just killing themselves in the gym. Who not just ripped because they're, like, skinny or ripped because they have tone, but who have, like, the massive muscles. Those people are just working out like

[Bob the Drag Queen]

animals and also eating like, they have the discipline, right? They're eating broccoli and boiled chicken and fucking carrots, and they're doing their meal preps. And, like, on a Sunday night when the kids are in bed, they're spending the whole. Their whole Sunday night. So they go to bed preparing 40 meals for the breakfast, lunch, dinner for the next seven days, like, because they're disciplined. They really want to achieve that goal, which I'm like, bitch, work. I'm just not that disciplined. I will never be disciplined enough to. They had, like, a point, like, in my early 20s, like, when I was like. I think in my adult life, like, my, like, best shape, like, right when I graduated college when I was, like, really, like, I was doing. I forgot what the name the meal prep program was. I forgot what it was. I was doing that, and I was going to dinner twice a day, and, like, for, like, seven months, I was committed to that. And I was like, I look at. We talked about this before. I looked at old pictures back then. I was like, I was really. I was really in my. In my. In my fitness bag. I don't think I will ever be committed that much to losing weight ever again.

[Monet Xchange]

When I first moved to New York City, I was very. I was very dedicated. I did P90X. Like, every. I would do a P90X. And then like, I would just do regular workouts for 30 days and then I go back to the P90X again. I used to, like, how old are you? 22 to, like 26. I used to jog. Like, I used to jog two miles to the gym and then do 30 minutes of cardio and then work out for an hour, then jog back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, wow. Yeah, that's wild.

[Monet Xchange]

Three or four times a week.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So like your body on top of doing.

[Monet Xchange]

On top of doing all those shows I was doing, and I was like, that is ins. That is wild that I was doing that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See, but so your point about people, like, who have kids or whatever, I was like, when do you, like, want it? Like, you find the time, right? Like when they. Maybe they're taking the kids. The kids go to school at 5 o' clock and they're going, they're waking up, they go to a 24 hour gym, they're working about 3 o' clock and going to the gym. You know what I mean? Like, when you want it that bad enough that you find the time to make it work.

[Monet Xchange]

The pedicure backs for you. Who's carrying more bags? You're Patty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We equal a lot. Like, when Pat and I travel, we normally travel with three bags and he will normally roll two and I'll roll one. You think or.

[Monet Xchange]

Or what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or when is we just carry the same amount? When it's equal.

[Monet Xchange]

Do you think the Rock has someone carrying his bags?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sure.

[Monet Xchange]

Like, what are the chances that someone working for the Rock is bigger than he is? But then I'm also imagining, like, the Rock has someone like Patty behind, like, Patty carrying all of his bags. And the Rock is just like. Do you think the Rock puts his own suitcase in the trunk of the car?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I mean, I don't. Cause typically, if they arrange a car for you, you pick it up and

[Monet Xchange]

like an Uber, like, I don't know if the Rock driving. I think Ubers, but like. Or if the Rock's driving and he's with his assistant and the Rock has a big suitcase, is the Rock picking the suitcase up, put it in the car, or is his assistant who is. I can't imagine his assistant is stronger than he is. I would be really shook if they

[Bob the Drag Queen]

were, but with that, I don't think it's about the assistant being stronger. It's like, can they do it?

[Monet Xchange]

I know it's not about them. It's just in my head. It's just interesting to imagine the Rock watching someone like, Tiny put his suitcase in the trunk of the car. There's something about that is really the Rock Club. I guess it's funny to me, but it's just like. It's just interesting to think about because I haven't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've had.

[Monet Xchange]

I've had an assistant who's weaker than I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your assistants are always weaker than I am.

[Monet Xchange]

I've only had two. Right. But I'm also just a large.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll be running through assistants. Damn, there's a lot of turnover. Ball the Dragon, llc.

[Monet Xchange]

Two in seven years you got me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was one in five.

[Monet Xchange]

You also didn't have one for the first, like two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true. Patty had been working from day one. What are you talking about?

[Monet Xchange]

And who referred him?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not you, Peppermint.

[Monet Xchange]

That's not true. Anyway, that's a complete faucet. I also referred him to Peppermint in our room. I was like, you know, because Patty was like, Patty ended up leaving Peppermint. And I was like, you know, Monet

[Bob the Drag Queen]

is looking for an assistant right now, so I guess so then you wouldn't know that I had parties in the beginning instead of the first two years. So either you either referred Patty or you didn't. Which one did you do it then?

[Monet Xchange]

I said. I referred Petty, but you literally said my name was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you said. You said I didn't have an assistant for the first two years. So did you refer to Patty or not?

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know your time wise, but how does that mean I didn't refer Patty?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because. Because then you know, if you refer Patty.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know your timeline. If you refer to Patty, you're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You would know. Let's take a break and I'll tell you how you know.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Close your eyes, exhale, Feel your body

[Monet Xchange]

relax and let go of whatever you're

[Shannon Maldonado]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And breathe.

[Shannon Maldonado]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet Xchange]

1-800-contacts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think that when the Rock is hiring people he like, they know what the job is. And you know. And you know the Rock, honestly, the Rock won't even deal with that. The Rock is. Robbie gets his car. The Rock just walks to the car, sits down he probably. The Rock probably has more than one assistant.

[Monet Xchange]

And they all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They work and they delegate. You know, a friend of ours works with. Has worked with Beyonce before, and Beyonce has four assistants. And, like, they all. They just do the stuff.

[Monet Xchange]

Maybe he does pick up his stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe Rock's just like, maybe he does. Who knows?

[Monet Xchange]

You know? Maybe he's like, I'm getting my extra lifts in maybe. Because he's obviously going to the gym a lot, on top of being one of the. Literally one of the busiest actors in Hollywood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. So with all that, I think it's safe to say the Rock probably has multiple assistants. And he just. He gets his phone. He has maybe his little bag or his bum bag or his book bag, whatever. He sits in the car and things happen, and he gets to this thing, and it's all taken care of. So his bum bag, like your little

[Monet Xchange]

Gucci bag, You call that a bum bag?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what it's called, a bum bag. Yeah.

[Monet Xchange]

And fashion and in the uk, a bum bag is a fanny pack that you wear around your waist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. So we put it across your chest.

[Monet Xchange]

So in America, when it's over, the chest is a bum bag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but. Same way everyone calls it a bum bag. That's what. That's what. That's what fashion has. Instead of calling them fanny packs, they multiple bum bags.

[Monet Xchange]

Interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet Xchange]

And they don't say fanny pack in the UK because fanny means fanay in the uk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe it tweeted something today, and I was like, oh, my God. Also, shout out to Silvio in this sponge.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Look,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am obsessed, y', all, with this fucking video. Him twerking in this sponge. Look, he you. I mean, they better work.

[Monet Xchange]

Obsessed. I'm gonna put this on my Instagram sponge, kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then what happened?

[Monet Xchange]

I said, not you misgendering the sponge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They thank you, Sylvia. Oh, wait. Oh,

[Monet Xchange]

you hit me a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm. I'm returning a favor because it's been years of me suffering your abuse. There's a video that they put together. You Monet.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I.

[Monet Xchange]

And I think they can make a video because I. I realized. I was like, monet hits me a lot. I was like, well, that's what you hit me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want. I'll show you. Here. I hung out with Martha Kohlo over the past couple weeks. Martha Kohl is so funny. We were sitting at the new house, which I went to Clayton County. I know I'm not gonna tell your business, but I was like, this is a nice house in Clayton County. And I Know, you're saying the neighborhood is wild, but it was like. I mean, it was a nice house. Like the way that you described Clayton County. I thought that we were going to roll up to something.

[Monet Xchange]

I was like, this is a nice home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone would love this home.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, I mean, Clayton county is bad neighborhoods, or I don't know what. The phrase I'm looking for is different in the south than it is in other places. Again, nothing in the south is old. Everything in the South. Everything in the south is new. So I used to say, even when I lived in the projects, we still had central heating and air. Like, everything in the south is new because the south was destroyed during the Civil War. So there's barely anything in the south that is actually pre war, except these old plantations that were probably guarded by soldiers and stuff. So they probably didn't get. So things in the south just kind of don't have that raggediness that things up north do. Because also, it's interesting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, no matter.

[Monet Xchange]

Even in the poorest of neighborhoods, you have central heating and air in the south, whereas in New York City, even the most wealthy and expensive apartment, you still have a window unit. I mean. No, I get that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was just like, this is like a nice. I was like. I was like, bitch told Mommy in St. Lucia. I was like, Bitch, this house in St. Lucia, girl.

[Monet Xchange]

It was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was just like. I was just very impressed. I was like, this is like. This is fucking fierce. I was like, but go off. Anyway, I have a month to call. And we were hanging out at the new house, and then she was eating some watermelon, and she was like, hey, Monae, do you want some watermelon? I was like, no, I don't like watermelon. She's like, oh, Lord, you went black. And I thought your mom. She was very funny. I had a good time hanging out with your mom.

[Monet Xchange]

Oh, it was very funny. And she's in her new place, and it's not done yet, which is kind

[Bob the Drag Queen]

of stressing me out.

[Monet Xchange]

But that's totally beside the point. She seems very happy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I also met Uncle Steve for the first time.

[Monet Xchange]

Are you Uncle Steve?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love my Uncle Steve. Uncle Steve is very funny.

[Monet Xchange]

My family is very interesting. Very interesting family. Whenever you meet them, you're all. People are like, oh, you weren't exaggerating anything. Everyone is literally exactly how you describe them. Or even, like, more like wild. But they're wild. Yeah, but when you got my family, you're like, oh, I guess maybe this all makes sense now, Uncle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See, is Very soft spoken.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. I mean, at times, I think when he meets new people, he can be a little soft spoken once he warms up to people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So where you get it from? Because you adapt some of those traits. Because as long as I've known you, you ain't been soft about nothing.

[Monet Xchange]

Why would you want me to be soft spoken?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I would like that.

[Monet Xchange]

Am I outshining you? Does it feel like you need, like, do you feel diminished?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's just very aggressive and abrasive and I think that you can. Wow.

[Monet Xchange]

Describing black people as aggressive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. No, not black people. Just you.

[Monet Xchange]

Yikes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you can work on that. Might want to try it, Uncle Steve. It works, Uncle Steve. Uncle Steve is very charming, Very soft spoken.

[Monet Xchange]

Now, I think I'm doing really well myself, and I don't think I should have to change my personality because you want me to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's up to you.

[Monet Xchange]

What do you want to change? What do you want to work on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do I want to work on this year? Oh, my God. It's about to be.

[Monet Xchange]

Don't change the subject.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you want to work on? It's about to be 2023. I am gagged.

[Monet Xchange]

What are you working on on this side of the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I'm perfect. Well, I was watching this last episode when I grabbed my penis and said medialogist. And you can be so prudish sometimes.

[Monet Xchange]

I was vulgar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We all have our bodies, but we should celebrate our bodies.

[Monet Xchange]

I did not say, you shouldn't celebrate everybody. All I said was, I thought it was vulgar. I didn't say you shouldn't do it. I didn't say, what if I grabbed my tits? In certain contexts, it can be quite vulgar. And I was like, oh, that is vulgar. For example, you can use vulgar language. And I'm like, oh, that's vulgar. That doesn't mean it's bad, but it does mean that's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is this vulgar?

[Monet Xchange]

That is vulgar. Like, I think. I think vulgarities would be like, if you probably wouldn't do it in the middle of a graduation speech. Not necessarily, but a lot of vulgar stuff you wouldn't do in the middle of a graduation speech if you. If you were like, fellow classmates. Some be like, God damn, that was vulgar. Now, I don't think everything falls in that category. Like, you wouldn't make a. Like you wouldn't make a souffle during graduation speech. That doesn't make it vulgar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you use my knee crack? Like, sorry, that was girl.

[Monet Xchange]

Maybe it's from all the years of you making Fun of my knees. And now actually it's coming to you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

because you did it. I did a leg day two days ago and I do like them. I should be sores, but remember doing leg day and your ship used to be like sore.

[Monet Xchange]

What do you mean? Remember doing leg day?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you talking about?

[Monet Xchange]

It sounds like it was 10 years ago. Do you remember back?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you were talking about when your little eight hour gym days. You were talking about just now running, jogging to the gym, doing the next

[Monet Xchange]

when you were 22 to 26.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

22, 26 those years. Thank you, Jacob.

[Monet Xchange]

I've worked out since I was 26. I want to make it very clear. I have worked out since I was 26 years old. I've worked out since I've been 36 years old. And, and I do remember having leg days. They've been as recent as, as this year. But I don't remember my legs like cracking and stuff, but just my thighs would be a little sore and I'm like, oh, my thighs are sore. But my legs weren't like cracking and stuff from the workouts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now have you been on your knees sucking the dick and you're like, oh my God, I'm never gonna get up from here because my knees are done. Like when you've been on them for

[Monet Xchange]

too long, why put a pillow under

[Bob the Drag Queen]

my knees every time it's like you

[Monet Xchange]

put a pillow or, or I'm, or we're laying on the bed so I'm just laying down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you been kneel like not only like on your knees, you know, like the squat. Have you ever squat something like you like outside in public or something. You're like, oh, because you don't want to get your knees dirty.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know how many dicks I've ever sucked in public. It's very few. Less than five times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever done like, like, like play like out in like the brambles or something? Like in like.

[Monet Xchange]

No, I've never, I've never been pretty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You never cruised ever really?

[Monet Xchange]

I've never gone cruising.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. When I was young. Well, you know, when I was coming of age, I felt like that was the only way to do it. Like I didn't know how else to hook up. You know what I mean? Because it was before apps and it was. I didn't know about Craigslist, so the only way I would like find trade would be like on the street, like on the train or something.

[Monet Xchange]

Never been my experience work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was your first gay experience? How old were you?

[Monet Xchange]

I Was. I was a freshman in college, and I was like 18 years old, and I hooked up with a guy named. And camera. The first time when he blowing that guy in the closet or hooking up with that other guy. And I remember him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Go right back to the closet. Run that back, shorty.

[Monet Xchange]

I just blew a guy in the closet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, can you give us some backstory?

[Monet Xchange]

I, like, went to his. To his dorm. I was like, where you at? He was one of my friends. I was like, oh, okay. And I came to this dorm and I was drunk. And I like. He had like. There was like, the dorms, like four at csu.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The dorms.

[Monet Xchange]

There was. There were two sets of dorms. There were these old dorms that were like. They were like, apart. They were all. All the dorms were apartment style. None of them were like those community shower shifts. All the dorms in SCSU were all apartment styles, but in the newer dorms were like fans. There were four bedrooms, four bathrooms. Each one had a bathroom inside their bedroom, like a private bathroom. But the old dorms were. Were more like apartments, like a regular apartment. You would see, like a four bedroom apartment, Tiny little bedrooms, two bathrooms in the dorm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you have your own bedroom.

[Monet Xchange]

Everyone has their own bedroom. I was not. I never lived on campus, but it was four bedrooms and two bathrooms in the old dorms. Anyway, there was an empty dorm, like one. One of these dorms. One of the rooms was empty. And I pulled him into that room from his friends while they were hanging out and then was like, blowing him in the closet. And he was like, I got to get back to my friends.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did he finish?

[Monet Xchange]

No. And I was drunk, and I probably was doing a horrible job. And I was like, I think it was my first time ever doing that too. Like, my first time ever. And I was just like, is your

[Bob the Drag Queen]

first time ever sucking a dick?

[Monet Xchange]

I think so. I mean, I wasn't. I wasn't 12 or anything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you ever probably wait for a

[Monet Xchange]

little bit, practice on, like, No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet Xchange]

I never practiced.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just.

[Monet Xchange]

I just dove straight to the deep end. And yeah, that was. That was my first time. I'm pretty sure that was my first time sucking a dick. And then I looked at this other guy who was in the theater department, and I was like, I was still closeted both those times. And I was like, what if I was like, wait? I was like, wait, I remember being drunk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were drunk for that too?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, for sure. I was always drunk. I was drunk off Of. I think it was peppermint schnapps or something like that, or 100 bananas or something like that, or 99 banana, whatever that thing was called. And I was like, what if everyone finds out in the theater department? And I remember him saying, at the time, I thought it was very sick. He goes, is no one's business. And then we have sex.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, you talk to. Yeah, got it. I don't think. I don't think in my.

[Monet Xchange]

I've.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've never had sex on. I never had sex on drugs or alcohol ever. Like, having sex drunk never sounds fun to me. And having sex on drugs never sounds fun to me. I'm like, maybe I've been, like, a little, like, stoned. Maybe, like, a little bit. But I've never. Oh, is this them?

[Monet Xchange]

I'm trying to find the guy from the closet, but no, he's too young. That's definitely not him. No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet Xchange]

Jordan 2004. We have 86 mutual friends. Oh, they're all in New York. Okay. I'm going to say no fucking way. I mean, I don't. I don't remember his last name at all. There's no way I will ever find this guy. I think I'm also spelling his name wrong. Hold on. Is this him?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think I've ever had sex, sex, sex. I never had sex.

[Monet Xchange]

You never had sex?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never had sex on any, like, drugs or alcohol. Maybe, like, maybe a little.

[Monet Xchange]

You've never been drunk during sex?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. When I'm drunk, I don't feel like sex.

[Monet Xchange]

You never, like, left the club and hooked up with someone?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But not when I was drunk. I've left the club and not when I was drinking or anything. Like, maybe I had, like, one cocktail. Not, like, drunk, like, let's make out. This is never my thing. I don't feel sexy. Like, Like, I don't want to have sex and I'm, like, drunk. Or, like, I don't think that's a thing for me. Maybe like, a little stone. I, like, went with someone and we, like, smoked weed a bit, and maybe I hooked up like that. But never, like, I'm, like, on drugs.

[Monet Xchange]

Like, I love it. We went from, like, I've never had sex drunk or high or anything. Okay. I mean, okay, a little stone. Okay. A couple shots, but even that, a hint of Molly. Okay. One crack rock.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It. Me and the guy are hooking up. Like, I'll, like, visit, like, one pool or two pools. Not, like, smoke a whole joint. Like, well, like, I don't I don't think drugs or alcohol make me feel like one of. I don't feel like I want to have sex on them.

[Monet Xchange]

You know, I've never really. I haven't done a lot of hard drugs in my day. I've done a. I've done a little bit of stuff here and there, but nothing. I've never done cocaine, I've never done molly. I've never done meth. I've never done. I might use a huff computer duster.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet Xchange]

Back in the day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the thing that makes you light headed, right?

[Monet Xchange]

Yes. Makes you very lightheaded. You only hide for like 20 seconds. If that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was. To me, that's like, that's like people that do poppers. I'm like, I don't get poppers. Like, I've tried poppers once and I was like, I don't understand. Like, anytime I like bottom when I bought them, I just fucking bought them. I don't. And if you need poppers to make you loose and open, I just don't. Jacob said, I just don't. I don't, I don't. I don't. I don't. It doesn't do that for me. Have you ever tried poppers?

[Monet Xchange]

No, I've never done poppers. I didn't even know poppers existed until I got sober and I was like, poppers?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I don't. I had the Molly before and that

[Monet Xchange]

even a lot of people say they're horny on molly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't feel horny. I just feel like dancing. I feel like music just feels so good. I don't do a Molly, but, like. And I've seen people get that way and I'm like, I don't get it. But it's for, like, music just sounds and feels so good. You, like, just want to dance.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. I think a lot of people who do go to those, like, Circuit parties are all on drugs. I'm like, yo, this music is not it Circuit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We talk about this before on the podcast. Circuit Party music is.

[Monet Xchange]

But I think it's. It's for high people. It's for people who are high.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess it just does not sound. It doesn't sound good. It doesn't sound.

[Monet Xchange]

It sounds like. Have you ever been to Circa Party while you're high? No, but you might. You might change your tune.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, but I've taken a Molly and heard Circa Party music and I'm not. I'm not sitting there. Like, I was like, I was like, can we get some Beyonce or Be.

[Monet Xchange]

I think it might have to be at the circuit party. I think you have to be high at the circuit party. I'm assuming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I'm also not interested in going to circuit parties. Like, I. When I see, like, pictures of circuit parties, I'm like, that doesn't look fun to me. I'd rather just be, like, a few close friends and, like, dancing and, like, having fun as opposed to, like. Like a big, sweaty circuit party.

[Monet Xchange]

Like, dancing where, like, what kind of name? The perfect outing with you and your

[Bob the Drag Queen]

buddies at, like, a. A House of Fire island with, like, a nice pool, like, nice weather. They're like, a few cocktails and just, like, listen to fucking. Honestly, the Renaissance album. That sounds like. Oh, she put out another visual today. Beyonce. Oh, yesterday, Beyonce put out a little visual of this song, Summer Renaissance. And it looks so cool. It's like she's evoking at, like, Studio 59 or Studio 54. Vibes. It just looks so, like, to me, that sounds fun. That sounds cool.

[Monet Xchange]

Is she gonna release this whole fucking visual on reels in small chunks? I don't like listening to music and dancing when I'm at someone's house. Like, dancing at a house doesn't sound fun to me. Being at someone's house and dancing is just for me. It's just not it. I prefer to be either watching videos, talking, or playing a game, but I do not want to dance at someone's house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't like house parties?

[Monet Xchange]

I like house parties. I don't like dancing at someone's house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Interesting. I think that's.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't know if At a house,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, I think that's great. It's so fun.

[Monet Xchange]

I think it's also different because you're. For me, anyway, partying is very different when you don't drink. It is a completely different experience than what you're having because those two or three drinks make the night come 100% different. And when I'm at the party and I'm like. And you're just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know.

[Monet Xchange]

You're, like, part of this, like, vibe. And you're like, got your white claw.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, your favorite word, the V word.

[Monet Xchange]

And you're like, oh, yeah. And I'm like, I just don't. I. I. That's never. Not never. When I was drinking, I used to love to dance at parties.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And how's that different from, like, a club to you then? Like, what's the. Like, Is it, like more people make it feel more like dancy to you?

[Monet Xchange]

Well, the music is typically more intense because, like, it's just, it's just not the same with a house party. You never have, you'll never have a sound system. I mean, not never, but rarely we have a sound system at a house party that will rival one at a nightclub. The environment is completely different. There's also strangers around, you're with your friends in your group. The music tends to be more varied and at clubs than it is at house parties. You know what I mean? Typically at house parties, the music doesn't have like a huge. Sometimes they'll just play a whole album or back to back to back, or it's just one person's favorites and stuff, as opposed to a professional DJ who's like, you know, doing, giving the music a real ebb and flow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had some DJ lessons with Patrick Cuzara, who was a New York City dj now an LA dj, and he was teaching me the ins and out of DJing. It's actually really fun. DJing sounds so fun. And I would love and to take people on like a musical journey with, like, your musical taste sounds so fun.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, I've DJed a few times. I DJed Spotify's Halloween. What's the funny?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

DJ had that pride thing. I was like, Bob had like, he had his headphones on. No, it was pride.

[Monet Xchange]

What pride thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The pride thing. I came to in LA and I came. It was pride in la. Oh, and then Bob dj and then people like, baby, just give me, give me. You can't talk to me on dj. You can't talk to me. And Bob doing his thing and they like, Bob can picture. Baby, just give me. I, I, I will talk to you.

[Monet Xchange]

I was DJing. But if you're trying to talk to me while I'm changing the song, it's

[Bob the Drag Queen]

hard to talk to them.

[Monet Xchange]

You'll see. Once you do a little jiggy, you'll be like, when you're actually trying to change music, you're like, I cannot talk to you and change this song because if the music stops, the music just stops. And everyone's like, where the fuck is the music? Like, where's the music, man?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, I believe it. Just believe me. Like, baby, I gotta change the song. I just, I have to change the song. I have to change the song, baby. It was just very funny to me.

[Monet Xchange]

You seem to really get a lot of joy out of me being stressed out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Were you stressed out?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah. You've also said several times that you get a lot of joy out of you being stressed out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have But I didn't think this was a situation where you were stressed out. You just seemed to be hyper focused.

[Monet Xchange]

It is very stressful to be in this position. You're like, I can't. This is. I am visibly stressed. Visibly. Like, give me a moment. But I enjoy DJing. I did. Yeah, I did that. It was a pride gig at the Whiskey Room. Is it called the Whiskey Bourbon? The Bourbon Room. I did Fiji's Christmas party. I did Spotify's Halloween party. And I feel like I did something else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was supposed to do that gig too at the Spotify Want. They're like other people dj. And what I wanted to was hire someone. This is, I mean, no shades of women who does this. But if I was to dj, I want to do like a thing. Like I was actually DJing. But I know some people just get a playlist made and you just like press play and like you just do your thing.

[Monet Xchange]

You just, you know, I DJ is pre make their playlist. They'll make like a megamix and I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

think that's from top to bottom, like a five hour megamix.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, there's. There's entire podcasts that are just DJs doing these, these like entire DJ sets on like there's entire podcast that like do that like soundclouds.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like I know the soundclouds and

[Monet Xchange]

it's like, it's like a three hour, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean if I was a career dj, that would appeal to me. But if, if I was to. If I was a dj, it would be very sporadic. Sell them here, here. So I would want to be like in the moment, like in the vibe, like living.

[Monet Xchange]

You know what I mean? But the only reason that the Spotify gave was because Trixie got Covid. No, her appendix burst.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right. And she had to have that.

[Monet Xchange]

Trixie's like appendix exploded or something. And they were like, bob, have you ever DJed? And I was like kind of. Me and Mitch used to DJ together a little bit at the Monster after Look, Queen, I would go and me and DJ would like. Me and Mitch would like swap back and forth and DJ booth. And then the Bourbon Room gig was because. Was because Alaska had a family emergency.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I went to the Monster yesterday and I saw Holiday. Holiday was performing herself and you know Novasar from Queen of Universe. They were both performing at my old gig I used to do in New York with Holly. I was, I was, I was Holly. I was one of. I was one of Holly's dollies. It was a Wendy Imagine I did. I don't have to imagine. I lived there and it was just going walking.

[Monet Xchange]

I had not been. You're not about to call me? No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I haven't been to the Monster in years. And to see the usual suspects who would be there every Sunday night, I was like.

[Monet Xchange]

I was like, you remember that old

[Bob the Drag Queen]

black dude with the gray hair with the glasses? Skinny black dude, bitch. He was still there.

[Monet Xchange]

I was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, girl, he's like, hey, good to see you, darling.

[Monet Xchange]

I remember the white guy with the glasses who would have his shirt down here of titties. Yeah. Called him tits. He'd have his shirt. He had massive pecs. Like, it was like. All he did was push ups. And he would walk and he would

[Bob the Drag Queen]

push them up and he'd hold his

[Monet Xchange]

drink between his hands to perk them up. Yeah, like this. To smush the pecs together. And he'd be like, you have great tits. And he.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And he.

[Monet Xchange]

That was his own thing. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, because you were like, you have pecs. It's so crazy. You have.

[Monet Xchange]

You have the. You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have, like, the Shaquitas.

[Monet Xchange]

Why is it crazy that I have pets?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm saying. But you and Shaquita have the thing where y' all can take your pecs and make them look like titties. You ever seen Shaquita do this?

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, of course. Take the. Take the girls and you give them

[Bob the Drag Queen]

one of these things. I have.

[Monet Xchange]

I don't have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have breasts.

[Monet Xchange]

Yeah, look, I can get the girls together. Those are titties, girl. Those are titties. Tell me those are not titties. The people listening are like, excuse us. If you, like, mask it properly from

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the right angle, girl, you look like you have double Ds.

[Monet Xchange]

I didn't mean shock that I have tone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not what I said. You would take anything I said and flip it into your own. I mean, listen, that's your own stuff. That. That is your own thing that you have to handle. That is not my business. Not my business.

[Monet Xchange]

Wow, you are really on one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're on one.

[Monet Xchange]

Well, something. When they said today, I cannot remember what it was. Oh, I do. I. I remember exactly what it was. It was so. It. It's so really gratifying to do the podcast in front of people because Monet's on her bullshit. And the crowd was like, what? Thank you, Houston. Because we were talking about. We were talking about singers, and Monet said, once every 10 years, a voice like Mariah Carey. And I said I would say Even less. I would say once every 30 years. Would you ever catch a voice like Mariah Carey? Maybe even less than that. Maybe once ever. And I think Monet was trying to say something along the lines of like there's other great singers like Whitney Houston and Celine Dion and these people. And I was like, yeah, yeah, there are, they are great singers who have huge ranges but they don't sing like Mariah Carey. And I don't even remember how you were trying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, because both Bob is neglecting to say. What I was saying is that there's nuance to that. Right. When I say once every whatever you get a voice act from Mariah Carey, I meant like a great. When I say a voice like Mariah Carey, I'm not just limited to her range, how she has a six octave range. I'm living, I'm talking in a bigger scope of like when I say a voice like Mariah Carey, I am including Whitney, I'm including Celine, I'm including these great voices. Out of the billions of people that are alive right now, you probably have, I don't know, maybe 10,000 people who have voices like that, which is a very. When I say a voice, a voice that comes along every time, I'm talking about in a grand scheme, not literally, who can sing the notes like Mariah Carey.

[Monet Xchange]

And I was saying, I don't think you'll ever find a voice like Mariah Carey's again because of like, not just like someone who can sing really well. It's just like, because I do think there are singers who like singers and performers who kind of could be doing a very similar thing. A lot of people like that actually, especially when it comes to like performance styles. Like a lot of people are like, oh, this is like a thing I've seen. Or other people are imitating that person. I don't think, I don't. I think it's even hard to even imitate Mariah Care. Although there is that one tiktoker who

[Bob the Drag Queen]

looks, he looks just like her or they look just like her.

[Monet Xchange]

I can't, I'm like, I'm not convinced. This isn't just Mariah Carey doing a TikTok acting like she's not Mariah Carey. It is in. It's just this, this person who does these like celebrity illusions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I forget their name.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm gonna try to find them while Monet talks about something. But I probably, I no promise that I will actually find this person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean she. And when you, oh my God, I love her. I go by little and yeah, so that's what my point was. It was that. And like when you see a voice like Mariah Carey, that's like saying like you. Yes, there will never be a voice like Mariah Carey because of. Oh, there, there they are. Because their voice.

[Monet Xchange]

Aurelio.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Aurelio Sanchez.

[Monet Xchange]

Aurelio Sanchez.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ex Sanchez. Yeah, yeah, Aurelio.

[Monet Xchange]

Better word, lover boy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they look just like Mariah Carey.

[Monet Xchange]

It's insane. This is Mariah Carey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want to put the sound. So the TikTok is going to hear.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm going to take it down or anything. Oh, that's Mariah Carey. It looks like the movements, the everything, the. Yeah, it's so Mariah Carey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But yeah, Mariah Carey is. I'm not denying that Mariah Carey is a great singer. I mean, that's not what the thing was. But all I was saying was like when you say, of course there'll never be a voice like Mariah Carey because your voice is like your fingerprint. Like no one else will ever be that. So when I was saying there are

[Monet Xchange]

some people who have voices that are like, oh, that's kind of like so and so's voice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, but it's never the same.

[Monet Xchange]

No, never the same. There are people who are like, oh, that, that sounds very similar to so and so. I think that's. That's actually pretty. Pretty. I think it's not completely uncommon to have somebody like you kind of sing like so and so. You kind of sing like so and so. You know what I mean? It's like looks this person looks at that person. Like, I, I think that actually now I was hanging on stage and I think Mariah's upper register, Ariana Grande has something similar kind of like it's like, oh, I could hear this in her upper register but not in her full voice. Not in her head voice or whatever they say. She doesn't have that thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You see, that's so crazy because you hear that and I don't hear that at all. Their tones are so. A lot of people compare them to their tones. They compare them because. They compare them because Mariah, Because Ariana can hit the whistle tones. But their tones like Mariah's tone and Ariana tone are to me, night and day like, to me none of it is the same.

[Monet Xchange]

I agree they're not the same. But it's like there's like, like I think there's a reason why. Because Ariana Grande is not the only person who sings whistle tones. But there's something about Ariana Grande's up up there when she's in the stratosphere. That's like, that is kind of sort of in a genre similar to Mariah Carey, which is why so many people make that comparison.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think they both sing pop and they both. And I mean you, I don't hear this similarity.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm not saying they're saying. A lot of people think this. I'm not the first person to make this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think, I think it's just a pop melody. They're both pop. And I mean they, I don't say they look similar because they don't look similar. I just think that they just, they just reminiscent in the same kind of the same things that Ariana, that Mariah did. People track Ariana to that stuff as well. But I tonally, I don't think that they sound the same. In my opinion last minute, there are many, any not anyone that sings whistle tones, but whistle songs. When you sing whistle songs, they kind of always have that same airy quality up there. So that's why when you say like there was there. When you say upper register, you mean like whistle tones or you mean like just their, Specifically the whistleblower. Yeah, yeah. I feel like whistle. When, when you whistle tone, you're kind of like they all found it's very impressive. I'm not taking that away. But they don't, you know. Have you ever tried the whistle tone?

[Monet Xchange]

No, I think you. I don't, I don't do like singing stuff. I don't, I don't. I very rarely practice doing singing things. I sing around the world, but I don't like practice. I'm not like, oh, I'm gonna try or do a run.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you always try to do your little, your little sting and say like you do.

[Monet Xchange]

I'm not really practicing singing. I just like, I do that not practicing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you, I feel like I rid you do whistle tones on this podcast before.

[Monet Xchange]

I've never done whistle song. I, I, I can make my voice go really high, but I've never done. I, I cannot do it whistle songs work. But I can, I can make my voice go very high though. But it doesn't sound like melodic in any way shape, form or fashion. Maybe not in any way shape. That's not like it's not like some like super singy voice. But I, but I do, you know, sing to myself and are like kind of around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You love this, you love, you love that. You love.

[Monet Xchange]

That's a gesture right here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you're listening, you can't see what I do. You have very strong to see it. It's a very exclusive concept.

[Monet Xchange]

You'll see the hand gesture that Monae says that I do a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think we appreciated our podcast. Bob, do you have anything else you'd like to say? Go to Patreon. Thank you for joining us.

[Monet Xchange]

Have a wonderful time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll see you. Be blessed and hallelujah.

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