The One Where Bob and Monet Contemplate Their Existence

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast Summary

Episode: The One Where Bob and Monet Contemplate Their Existence
Date: September 28, 2022
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, laugh-out-loud episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change turn their signature banter towards the big questions—existence, the meaning of life, and their place in the universe. Mixing existential musings with playful drag culture, TikTok trends, and backstage confessions, the duo takes listeners on a meandering journey of comedy, candor, and cosmic curiosity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter & Rhyming Games (01:00–10:00)

• Mic set-up banter and jokes about sharing equipment
• Bob shares affection for his partner Jacob, who loves to sing show tunes (02:06–03:41)
• Spontaneous rhyming games: “Simone Biles” (07:37), "Amanda Seals" (09:12), "RuPaul Charles" (10:13), with both hosts riffing on their improv abilities and joking about TikTok trends.

Notable quote:
_"Symone in her car driving – Simone Miles." – Bob (07:56)
"Bitch, you knew I was going to say 'Miles'..." – Monet (08:01)*

2. Reality TV & Drag Discourse (05:03–07:37)

• Monét asks Bob about returning to Drag Race media projects (Pit Stop, All Stars reunions).
• Discussion about production companies (World of Wonder vs Paramount), assumption vs. assurance around editing and image control.
• Commentary on early Drag Race reunions vs. the more sanitized present; yearning for “messy” reality reunions akin to Love & Hip Hop.

Notable quote:
_"I wanna give the fans what they want… like a season one RuPaul/Tammy Brown reunion or a Love and Hip Hop reunion—those reunions are pandemonium!" – Monét (06:42)*

3. The TikTok Rabbit Hole (10:42–15:00)

• The escapism of TikTok and its algorithmic rabbit holes. Bob discusses being on “battle rap TikTok” and “glorified mentally ill TikTok.” (12:11–12:20)
• Monét reminisces about seeing queens like Aja perform viral rap songs pre-Drag Race.

Notable quote:
_"If you like one TikTok, you’re there. You will be on that TikTok from now on." – Bob (11:58)*

4. Viral Fame & Internet Controversies (23:28–36:43)

• Bob and Monét examine the case of Brit Barbie ("Period Ahh Period Uhh"), discussing the rapid rise and controversy around viral stars.
• Parallels to Rebecca Black’s “Friday” and the notion of infamy vs. fame.
• The tricky dynamics of celebrities duetting TikTok trends (e.g., Chloe Bailey), and the performative debate over platforming white vs. Black creators.
• Brief foray into virtual/influencer rappers and "troll" internet personalities like Trisha Paytas.

Notable quote:
_"I wouldn’t want my song to go viral for the reason 'Period ahh' is going viral. It’s the second coming of 'Friday.'" – Bob (26:28)*

5. Reflections on Notoriety: Would You Want Infamy? (34:09–35:41)

• The difference between fame for talent vs. going viral for “being bad,” with examples like Blueface and William Hung’s “She Bangs.”
• Honest responses about not wanting a viral moment based on ridicule.

Notable quote:
_"Would you ever want that kind of notoriety?" – Bob
"I would not. That would make me feel terrible." – Monét (34:27–34:32)*

6. Drag Nightlife & Club Wars (44:02–48:34)

• Hilarious stories of late-night cookie cravings (Insomnia Cookies saga).
• Nostalgic look at New York City’s drag institutions—Lucky Cheng’s (“like HBO” vs. Lips “like Disney”), with Bob painting an outrageous, raunchy, and chaotic picture of nightlife in earlier years (55:04–55:27).
• The prevalence of drama, theft, and wild behavior in the drag scene of yore.

Notable quote:
_"So vulgar, so raunchy, so messy. Like, everyone was on coke, everyone was stealing… It was just a raucous." – Bob (55:12)*

7. Hypothetical Time Travel & Existential Comfort (56:24–60:01)

• Bob and Monét debate which era they’d live in if race weren’t a factor:
  • Bob: “I really want to be here.” (56:41)
  • Monét: “I would say the 70s for me—for the carefreeness and the vibe of disco. But back then you wouldn’t even have a concept of that.”
• Ultimately, both express contentment with the present and skepticism toward romanticizing the past.

Notable quote:
_"The good old days weren’t always good and tomorrow ain’t as bad as it seems." – Bob quoting Billy Joel (59:54)*

8. The Meaning (or Meaninglessness?) of Existence (60:01–69:45)

• Deep conversation about climate change, humanity’s insignificance in the cosmic scale, and technological progress.
• Bob describes Earth’s place in the universe as negligible (“Every planet in our solar system can fit between the Earth and the moon”) (65:05).
• The futility and fleetingness of fame, civilization, and even memory.
• Whether aliens would observe humans or consider our existence “ant-like.”

Notable quote:
_"In the grand scheme of things, none of this matters, but in this moment, it does matter, which is so crazy." – Bob (66:16)
"You. The value you put on it." – Monét (66:45)*

9. Existential Escalation & Speculative Theories (71:03–End)

• Bob recounts stories about dissociative drug experiences where one experiences an “entire alternate life” in mere minutes, suggesting our reality may be similarly constructed (70:45).
• Closing with both hosts marveling (and mildly panicking) at the randomness and contingency of consciousness and meaning.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• [07:56] "Symone in her car driving – Simone Miles." – Bob
• [26:28] "I wouldn’t want my song to go viral for the reason 'Period ahh' is going viral. It’s the second coming of 'Friday.'" – Bob
• [55:12] "So vulgar, so raunchy, so messy. Like, everyone was on coke, everyone was stealing… It was just a raucous." – Bob
• [56:41] "There are obvious reasons why we would not want to go back in time. Bitch, I really want to be here." – Monét
• [59:54] "The good old days weren’t always good and tomorrow ain’t as bad as it seems." – Bob
• [65:05] "Every planet in our solar system can fit between the Earth and the moon. That’s how far." – Bob
• [66:16] "In the grand scheme of things, none of this matters, but in this moment, it does matter, which is so crazy." – Bob

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |---|---| | Rhyming Games, Jacob’s Singing | 01:00–04:32 | | Drag Race & Reunion TV | 05:03–07:37 | | TikTok Addictions & Trends | 10:42–15:00 | | Brit Barbie & Viral Infamy | 23:28–36:43 | | Storytime: Wild NYC Drag Bars | 54:12–56:17 | | Time Travel & Nostalgia | 56:24–60:01 | | Cosmic Perspective | 60:01–65:05 | | Existential Spiral/Dissociation | 70:45–End |

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Tone & Language

The episode retains Bob and Monét’s trademark blend of sharp wit, pop culture savvy, and philosophical curiosity. The conversation rides a wave from playful drag banter to genuine, thoughtful explorations of modern existence, always peppered with honesty, humor, and a healthy dose of “Are we even real?”

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is a rollicking ride from showbiz anecdotes to honest admissions about the drag world, life online, and what it means to actually “matter.” Expect cackle-inducing improv, candid takes on internet fame, cosmic musings, and two queens who know how to make every topic—no matter how deep or silly—downright entertaining.

Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

my name is Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm Monet X Change. And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, we learn a new rhyming game.

[Monet X Change]

We contemplate our existence and we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

There are obvious reasons why we would not want to go back in time. Bitch, I really want to be here. And we find out what made Bob the Drag Queen say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, it was like so vulgar, so raunchy, so messy. Like, everyone was on coke, everyone was stealing, everyone was. It was just a raucous.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Bob loves having the mic directly in front of him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't have to start, y'. All.

[Monet X Change]

Bob had the mic like this in front of him. Bitch, we are sharing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, I did. I just. First of all, I set up your whole. I came to your room, set up your whole, who did it last night? Shut up. Your whole who did it yesterday?

[Monet X Change]

Last night. Who did it yesterday?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I said, thank you. Yeah, you did not. Anyway, Jacob, we just joined the riverside and it's much like a zoom. It's just like moisturizing. I moisturize. It's like a zoom. And Jacob was just came in singing Part of your World. And I love Jacob singing. Like when we're in the car, just us. Jacob loves to sing musicals at the top of his lungs. And he. It's just so exciting.

[Monet X Change]

His favorite musical, Aida. He.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He sings well. He sings Aida. He sings Part of youf World. He sings a lot of Wicked. I get a lot of Jacob Doing songs from Wicked. My favorite memory of Jacob is on the cruise ship when he was singing Loathing, but it was just a bunch of people, and he just so happy when he sings.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you were singing that karaoke.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was. It was like a piano. It was like everyone in the room was.

[Monet X Change]

And Jacob was singing. Everyone. Like, Like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it was everyone. Everyone's all singing at the same time.

[Monet X Change]

So, like, there was, like, monster at the top of Monster.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but, like, bigger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, except I think there was one. One. I think there might have been one there. It was actually live on piano, I think. Was it live on piano, Jacob, do you remember? I don't remember, but. But everyone was all singing. He just looks so cute.

[Monet X Change]

One of my biggest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it was just a karaoke track. Oh.

[Monet X Change]

One of my biggest regrets is that I did not keep up with piano. Like, my mom, like, tried to make me do it, and I was like, nah, dawg, I'm good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you talk about Jacob for a little more, or do you want to silence?

[Monet X Change]

Does Jacob want to be a sibling rivalry and boyfriend?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to talk about my partner for a little bit.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, keep on going then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, I love you very much, Jacob,

[Monet X Change]

and I love when you sing, and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm very lucky that I get to hear you singing all the time.

[Monet X Change]

Do you sing for Jacob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't sing as much because I am a.

[Monet X Change]

You stay singing on Hair, nigga. We can't stop you from singing on Civin Rivalry. Jacob. Jacob. Did I lie?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I won't say I sing. You know, he does. You sing. You are known to sing. Let me find. I have a really great video, but I don't know if I can find.

[Monet X Change]

You know how you also know for singing on the podcast?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that video of me singing while you're. Wait, was it. Wait, I think Jacob's gonna play the video. I think I was singing Wap, but like, a Broadway version.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Jacob, send it to me so I can play it on the microphone so everybody could hear. Wait, there's a. There's a musical version? Someone did, like, a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I was just in the house doing, like, my own ridiculous. It might have been a while, but I can't remember what it was, but I was just in the house just doing some ridiculous stuff. But anyway. How are you, Monet? I'm just sharing my love for. I know. I love. I found.

[Advertisement Voice]

I found it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I found it.

[Monet X Change]

Are you gonna put. Are you gonna say. What are you singing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's singing Wet ass, but, like, as an opera song. What are you doing?

[Monet X Change]

I have a question to ask you. I haven't answered yet, but we have to be. We have to be very honest, and this might be a little controversial.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have to be honest with. You can ask the question.

[Monet X Change]

I'll see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, whether or not I answer, what

[Monet X Change]

if the Pit Stop came and asked you to do another season, this. This. For this next coming Drag Race?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you do it? I mean, if I. If it was in my schedule, I'd probably do it. I liked it, too. I really enjoyed it.

[Monet X Change]

People can. People think that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shake the table.

[Monet X Change]

People think that World of Wonders. But Pitstop is not World of Wonder.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Paramount.

[Monet X Change]

Pitstop is Paramount. They're two different entities.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, well, one's a production company and one's a studio.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Paramount's a studio. World of Wonder is a production company. Can I ask Monet a question that might be controversial, and we can edit it out if we have to. Oh, yeah, please, go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

Ask me. Ask me. Ask me the controversy.

[Advertisement Voice]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What if World of Wonder came back and asked you to do an All Stars 7 reunion? Would you do it, like, now?

[Monet X Change]

No. Yesterday?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

I would probably say no in protest. Okay. Depending on. I don't know, but I wouldn't. Like. We both know everything that we would want to say about it would probably not make the air.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's an assumption.

[Monet X Change]

It's true. But how do you guarantee that? There's a way to guarantee that. You just have to kind of do it and hope that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I do. We're here, and I'm not guaranteed that. All my favorite Mars parties make for the show, and I'm a producer on

[Monet X Change]

that show, but they're gonna make sure you guys don't look bad, and I don't have that same guarantee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think they make you. I don't think that they would ever make you look bad, especially not on Halloween. I genuinely don't think that anyone looked bad.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, for sure, for sure. No one looked bad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that a lot of y'.

[Advertisement Voice]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that you are all shown in a relatively positive light, but I

[Monet X Change]

wanna give the fans what they want.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I know this is what I wanna see.

[Monet X Change]

And I know the fans wanna see, like, a reunion. I think the fans wanna see, like, a bad. Like a season one RuPaul, Tammy Brown come reunion or like, a fucking. Have you ever watched one of the love and hip hop reunions? Those reunions are pandemonium.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was that rating?

[Monet X Change]

Literally, like, the fans want to see that career for Drag Race. Do you Think we will ever see a physical?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We used to get that in season in season one and two, early three.

[Monet X Change]

Early season. No, season two and three had reunions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not one, but two and three. Yeah. Yes, two did. What do you.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one, two and three. What do you think? Tatiana going? You'll speak. You'll talk when I'm done, right? You'll talk when I'm. And walking children in nature.

[Monet X Change]

Agnes did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Simone Biles.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. So you say, oh, Simone Biles on the track. I call it Simone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't say the word you're rhyming with.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You said Biles already. You said Simone.

[Advertisement Voice]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sorry. What? I think we did a really harsh transition.

[Monet X Change]

Into what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a game. It's a TikTok game.

[Monet X Change]

Simone on the track.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just say Simone Biles and I'll go first.

[Monet X Change]

This week. Simone Biles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Symone in her car driving. Simone Miles. No, you know, that's what I was gonna. You know, that's what I was gonna say.

[Monet X Change]

I was gonna say Simone on the track. Simone running. Simone Miles. You took Miles. You knew I was going there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. You do more, bitch, you gotta keep going. Simon.

[Monet X Change]

Simone rowdy. Simone Riles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I guess Simone got sued. Simone trials.

[Monet X Change]

Simone on the rotary. Simone dials.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Simone be looking fresh. Simone Stiles.

[Monet X Change]

Simone jumping in Symone Pyles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I don't know. Simone doing her taxes. Simone files. That was good. Oh, will Simone be in that river in Africa? Simone Niles. That was good. That was good. That's a good.

[Monet X Change]

We should on TikTok later.

[Advertisement Voice]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

You want to do one more? You can't think of another? Or Simone or you gonna do something else?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just anything. You gotta pick someone with the last name that's purple.

[Monet X Change]

Amanda Seals.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I went first last night, so you gotta go first.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. So Amanda seals.

[Monet X Change]

Amanda crying. Cause Amanda feels okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Amanda be making weird noises. Amanda squeals.

[Monet X Change]

Amanda is a bank robber. Amanda steals Amanda in the new Little Mermaid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amanda eels.

[Monet X Change]

Amanda eat a banana. Amanda peels.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because Amanda got them big body tires. Amanda wheels. Oh, Samantha be fracking. Amanda drills. Oh, Amanda a sniper. Samantha kills. All right, anyway, that's very fun. Let's do one more. Let's do one more. You got one, Jacob? Yeah, one more, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Give us one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We just need one more.

[Monet X Change]

Any celebrity.

[Advertisement Voice]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

RuPaul Charles. Oh, God, wait, I went first. I got one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, go ahead.

[Monet X Change]

RuPaul Anger in Reunion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul Snarls. RuPaul Be chewing on that brick RuPaul Gnarls.

[Monet X Change]

That's a hard one. I don't know. I can't even think of the arles. We both had one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

True. So I landed on. Do you still TikTok. Do you use TikTok very often? Do you, like, scroll or nothing?

[Monet X Change]

I scroll. It's just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just.

[Monet X Change]

And every time I have, like, 89 giraffes, I just never put them out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Mitch and Jacob both do this thing where they. They have. They uninstall and reinstall apps to, like, not take up much of their time. Like, I'll be like, oh. I'll be like, oh, Mitch, this. This TikTok I love. And he goes, oh, I. I. I've uninstalled TikTok. I. I don't. And I just. Honestly, I just let it eat up my time. I just, like, do it while I'm on the. On the.

[Monet X Change]

While I'm walking on a flight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do it on the. Yeah, I'm like, I just. Or sometimes I'm just laying my ass down. Just should be sleeping.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I just. I just really love you.

[Monet X Change]

Love TikTok. The pandemic, girl, the pandemic made you a TikTok queen. Honey, you. You look.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember.

[Monet X Change]

I remember when you first got into TikTok. It was. It was like. It was like, maybe, like, April or May of pandemic. And then I was. I came to your house to hang out, and instead of our usual. The usual YouTube rendezvous, this nigga was just on his couch. I was like, what are you doing? Like, I'm on TikTok. I was like, TikTok what? I'm just on TikTok. Monet. It's an app. You may have heard of it. I was like, you just on TikTok. And that's what a tiktoker is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is. So also, the thing about TikTok is if you like. If you like one or scroll through one TikTok, you're there. You will be on that TikTok from now on. So I am.

[Monet X Change]

What topics are you on right now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm on battle rap TikTok, and I was on glorified mentally ill TikTok for a while.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like this. It's like a side of TikTok where they're like, hey, bestie. Just two mentally ill besties looking at each other. Love you, bestie. I don't know how I got on that TikTok. I think I follow one person who's very beautiful, who's on that TikTok. And I was like, this person's. Then I was, like, looking at their. Because they're really hot. And then it just. Then I just ended up on that whole side of TikTok. But now I'm on. I'm currently on battle rap TikTok, and, like, this, like, group TikTok, where it's like. Where, like, large groups of people, these houses, they all just like. Like the one we just saw us on. It's just all these guys hanging out and they do stuff. Like, they'll. They'll. They'll hover a chair over a pool.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I said that. If you don't know the lyrics, they just dunk you in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So it's like group TikTok, Battle rap TikTok.

[Monet X Change]

Would you like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think I'd be pretty good. I mean, I'm really good with lyrics,

[Monet X Change]

you know, a lot of songs, so I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I'd be pretty good. Some of them, though, I was kind of like. I don't even know how, like, one guy was doing it.

[Monet X Change]

The Busta Rhymes. Have you seen the Busta Rhymes?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. And I was like. I mean, but Busta Rhymes lyrics are so hard in general, right? And I'm just like. Like, when I gotta have it, I'm gonna have it. And I get through all this traffic, and, you know, in a way, you gotta weigh it out.

[Monet X Change]

Making. Before Drag Race, Aja was making her rounds because she was doing look at Me Now. Aja used to body that lip sync.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was everything.

[Monet X Change]

Everybody used to gag when Aja would do it in New York City. And then she got on drag, rather doing it around the world. It was really, really, really, really fierce to see Aja do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's this woman doing look at me now at her in her wedding dress. It is crazy. It's like her and her husband. She's doing look at me now, but she's, like, at her wedding, rapping it with a live band.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's doing it even faster than Busta Rhymes. I'm telling you, it is absolutely.

[Monet X Change]

You look at it on YouTube. I'll start YouTube.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't think. I don't think I'll find it in the meantime, because I'm constantly liking too much stuff on TikTok. But I remember watching Today being like, this is literally wild. But. And I'm also. Go ahead, baby. Have you seen. Period? Oh, okay. Has become so. It's become so controversial.

[Monet X Change]

But have you seen Chloe? Chloe Bailey?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't see Chloe Is this it? Oh, well, okay, so we gotta talk about period on period on period. So period on period is.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on. I think I found it. Is this lady.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Oh, my God. It's insane. We should watch this real quick. And we will not put it on the screen.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because we won't, Monet. Because we won't. Let's. Let's keep it a buck.

[Monet X Change]

Speak for yourself.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think I'm confused. So there's this girl on TikTok named British. Okay, we need more time. We only have, like, another minute to. To do this. Let's enjoy this moment. And Jacob, if you're not gonna do that at our wedding, we're not getting married. We're.

[Monet X Change]

This is the first. Oh, this is s. Robert. This is the first declaration Bob has

[Bob the Drag Queen]

ever even even mentioned. I talked about marriage before.

[Monet X Change]

Have you. On the podcast, I think in front of me and on the podcast. Cuz you have. We did the one about marriage or whatever. You were like, I never want to get married. Y. Y. Well, I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Well, Jacob and I actually don't know if marriage is really right for us. And we don't take it that seriously.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but just how you mentioned. I'm very like, oh, God, you're wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob. And I don't know if marriage is right for us. Well, let's take a break. We'll see. Jacob said.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob did the patty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we're back. But Jacob and I have. Jacob and I are very pragmatic about. About whether or not we would get married. And we were like, we don't know if that's right for us, but we talk about the notion a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Jacob also told me that he does not want to be surprised with a proposal.

[Monet X Change]

I did hear you say that. Now when you say you don't want a. You said. You just said something before. I just forgot what you said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't know if what marriage is right for us or not. But we talked about the prospect.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so you guys talk about, like, when you guys just having pillow talk. You guys just talk about, like, wedding stuff sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, if we would get married and what it would be like, would you

[Monet X Change]

do, like, a really big wedding? You have to, you know, too many people. There's no way. First of all, your family. You have to do it in Atlanta.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. For indoors.

[Monet X Change]

Indoors.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Because you told me. I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The reception. Yes. Don't. Yeah, please don't bring that up. Yeah, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Because I. We said yesterday. I was like, the gag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then we have the reception at my mom's house.

[Monet X Change]

At the new house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And Jacob, you gotta be your phone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gotta be not silencing your files. Silencing Jewish voice. Because he's.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cracking sodas.

[Monet X Change]

Making a slice in the watermelon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just mad noise over there. Watermelon says it's silent. What? I don't even want. No, I mean, it's relatively quiet.

[Monet X Change]

You said it's silent. That's not the same as quiet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Touche.

[Monet X Change]

So with the amount of people you know in the industry and friends and family you're looking at, and I'm sure Jacob has a lot of family, too. You looking at easily 20, 50 people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I might do more than one thing. I might do a New York and LA and an Atlanta. Not the tour. So people don't have to travel.

[Monet X Change]

Not the wedding tour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch.

[Monet X Change]

It's your wedding. People come to you. It's your special day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's Just a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Would you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, you can't. Were you going to ask Ron about Ezra? Huh? Would you ask if I would invite Ezra? No, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

I was like. I was like, you can't do a wedding tour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds insane. And I think that it was not be a tour. No one's going to have separate tour. It's just we're celebrating in three different places. And I think that obviously, if me and Ezra already get married, Jake would be invited. And if me and Jacob would be getting married, Ezra would also be invited.

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New York,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Atlanta. And Jacob's gonna do. Look At Me Now. Look At Me. No, Jacob would do the. The. The. The. The white version. The. What's that song? Not getting married Today.

[Monet X Change]

No, no. Jacob doing bohemian. You know, white people love Bohemian Rhapsody. They love Jacob. Now, I know Jacob. Jacob is not. Jacob is Jewish, but Jacob does not observe. His family does not observe the faith.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, no, they observe, but they're not.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry. They don't. They observe, but they don't, like, pray,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but they're not, like, serious about it. Like, when I was at Passover, his mama goes, I don't believe in any of this.

[Monet X Change]

Right. But they still do the traditions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So now will it be. Would Bob have to convert to Judaism? Because.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we have silence on that, please?

[Monet X Change]

We just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We are allowed to take for us for a second.

[Monet X Change]

No sodas and shit. My notification.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Would Bob have to be Judith? Judas?

[Advertisement Voice]

Judah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Judah.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I have to convert to Judaism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry. No. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, Jacob's sister's getting married, and I don't think her boyfriend.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's British. No, they're having an interfaith ceremony. Say it again. They're having an interfaith ceremony.

[Monet X Change]

An interfaith ceremony. Okay. Word.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's so cute. I'm so excited.

[Advertisement Voice]

We're not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're not. I know. I'm just thinking about it. It's very cute. Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, who gonna be. Who gonna be your best man? Maid of honor? You, nigga. You know your ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe. I don't know. Maybe Pep making my maid of honor. Maybe Nick is the best man. I could probably. If not. If Nick can't do it, then I probably have. Maybe Ezra. But if Ezra can't do it and Nick is also busy, I could see what my brother's up to. But if all three of them are busy, then I would ask you work.

[Monet X Change]

I love you, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I would just like to say that Mateo was not in there at all, and he's going to be Furious. Oh, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Mateo, listen, if y' all know, it's tag Mateo in this sound clip right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tag Mateo later. Mateo cannot be that easily manipulated. Mateo's very smart and under your little games.

[Monet X Change]

No, you literally omitted.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I said Matteo smart. You said.

[Monet X Change]

No, you omitted Mateo for the live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, ready? Wow. Mateo Lane is beautiful. We're doing the game. Matteo Lane.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Mateo pants fell down on stage. Mateo Shane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mateo hurt his back lifting weights. Mateo pained.

[Monet X Change]

Mateo wear his tighty whities.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mateo hands because Mateo be, you know, getting swole. Mateo Gaines.

[Monet X Change]

Mateo in the D.C. he's Mateo Bane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mateo. Oh, Mateo hurt his leg. Mateo kanes.

[Monet X Change]

Mateo lost in Fortnite. Cause Mateo lames. Mateo drag queen Mateo exchange.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, anyway, okay, so Brit Barbie.

[Monet X Change]

Oh yeah, Britt Barbie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My bag is period. Your bag is here. So there's a lot of controversy online right now with Brit Barber.

[Monet X Change]

Do you know about this? I don't know. I mean, besides the obvious reasons.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So they're saying she's the next coming of Whoa, Vicky. And I don't know, Whoa, Vicky was just imagine Brit Barbie, but a different white girl.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then. And the next coming of bad Barbie who all just kind of been these white girls who are like, I'm a rap. Well, I will say, you know, Bad Barbie, she. She actually did rap and I think she still is kind of rapping. She's now mostly doing her only fan stuff. But, well, Vicky. Well, Vicky got really religious. She got saved and it's like super, super religious now. And she has a line of like skincare that clears up acne or something.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like the Woah, Vicky skincare or something like that. But the reason why people are mad about Chloe Bailey and other people.

[Monet X Change]

Chloe Bailey is mad at her. Chloe did like do it in her video.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some people are mad at Chloe Bailey.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, really? Because she's like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because she. Because they're saying that she's platforming Brit Barbie and then not platforming other like, like other black artists. I don't. I mean, I also don't. I don't follow Chloe Bailey that closely. So I don't know if she has platformed other. I don't know. Maybe she does platform Chloe.

[Monet X Change]

Come on. Come on the podcast to talk about it, babe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe she does platform. Lots of the black artists, but folks are mad. And then this, this record. Oh my God, I'm so obsessed with TikTok. You remember when the Kim's dinner, I was like catching every up on TikTok drama. So this record label like, the guy pretending to be at a record label said that he signed Brit Barbie. And folks are mad because they're like, now Brit Brady has a record deal. Y' all happy now? Y' all fucking happy?

[Monet X Change]

You remember that Android, that virtual rapper everyone was mad about recently?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't know about that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The one who's, like, not a real person. Yeah, because. Yeah, because he's made by white people

[Monet X Change]

and he got a. And he got a record deal. It's almost a nigga. What? Nigga Who.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, anyway, and then people were. And then people were mad because they were saying that she is pretending to be, like, have a mental disorder. They're saying she's pretending to, like, be, like, mentally challenged.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But then she made a video being like, I'm not. But she kind of like. She kind of talks like. She like. Like what you would see on a movie or a tv. Someone who has a mental disability. But then she has a video of being like, I have no mental disabilities. There's nothing. I have no mental. I have no. There's nothing going on with me. I am neurotypical. She didn't use the words neurotypical, but that's what she basically was saying. And. And part of me is like, I don't know that that's the kind of thing, like the fame that Brit Barbie has. I'm someone who just. Me and Britt Barbie dropped our song on the same day, and I was. Brit Barbie's got a lot more views than a bitch like me did.

[Monet X Change]

But she's famous. You're famous. And she's become more infamous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I also don't want to. I don't want to. It's not that I don't want infamy. I don't want the kind of popularity that she's got. I wouldn't. I wouldn't want bitch Like Me to be. To be going viral for the reason that Period Period is going viral. It's the second coming of Friday.

[Monet X Change]

Friday. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if y' all remember,

[Monet X Change]

Rebecca Black went through it.

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They did.

[Monet X Change]

There's a documentary about her. She's like, yeah, it, like, ruined my. My, my, the rest of my teens and her life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The main difference is I think that Rebecca Black was being serious.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she's sincere. I don't think we know if Brit Barbie is being serious or if she's just another Internet troll. Like, who's the one that. The Internet troll who's always trolling. What's her.

[Monet X Change]

What's her name? Which one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Trisha Paytas.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Trish. Trish Paytas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Trish Paytas who's just always doing like this. The most absurd. So Britt Barbie might just be another Trish Paytas who's just doing the most ridiculous things. And like at one point she has a video where she goes. I did not know this. She has her hair. She's like, I did not realize your hair grows from here. I thought it grew from the end. So I'm sitting here like, wait, your hair grows from. So I'm like, I think she's just trolling.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. But here's the thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I don't. I wouldn't want. I wouldn't want bitch like me to go viral for that reason. Like Friday did where they were just dragging Rebecca Black.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. In this day and age and culture. Right. I don't know. I didn't see the original. I mean, I saw the original video, but it looked like to me just some girl. Some young. Is she under 18?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. She looks very young. Yeah, I can google.

[Monet X Change]

She looks like some young girl just went on TikTok and was just being silly. And now it became a moment just like. And I mean, again, I don't. Like you said, I don't follow Chloe Bailey that closely. I don't like, no, I don't follow all her TikTok. I don't see everything that she does. But it seemed like Chloe Bailey was just hopping on a TikTok trend and just duetting her video and singing to it and then for everyone to put the pressure on her. Well, we. Wow. You're elevating this white person instead of other black artists. It feels like it just seems like a. Like, like a vast. It just seems like a lot of pressure to put on someone who just. Who's just engaging in TikTok culture. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. Britt Barbie is apparently in her twenties. Somewhere in her twenties.

[Monet X Change]

Let me. Let me play the Chloe Bailey video because it. Y', all, she just due to the video and she's singing next to it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe we will put these videos in there. Oh, my God. Will this be the one where we actually get the videos on the screen? I can you see?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, there it is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You see that for us?

[Monet X Change]

I see that for us.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you doing? It's a stitch. Just click. Not when they not know how to use.

[Monet X Change]

I know how to use. Dang. See, she just do it. She's just engaging in. She's just tiktoking like she's not trying to like platform. You know what I'm saying?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean, whether or not she's trying to platform her. She did platform her. Whether or not is she.

[Monet X Change]

But she was viral before that. I have been seeing Brit Barbie Bob for the past three weeks before this Chloe video. She's been everywhere, all over my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, when I say platform, I mean she is. She's propagating and elongating the. The. I'm not. I don't necessarily think that what she. I don't think that what Chloe Bailey did is wrong. Right. I want to be clear. I do not think that what Chloe Bailey did is wrong, but she is getting period, period, a lot more views. Which. Which I don't. I don't. I mean, they're also saying that this girl is. Some people saying that she's pretending to be black. I do not know anything about this. I don't know except the fact that she has this song that went viral called Period. Ah, period. And then a lot of people are. There's a lot of controversy around her saying she tend to be black. She pretended to have. She pretending to have. She have a mental disorder. She's pretending to. She's like doing all this stuff to get, you know, use this up online.

[Monet X Change]

She.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She does strike me as a Trish Paytas who is just making moments this. This period. I has 38,000 stitches. I mean duets like 38,000 people have period, ah. And period. Including Chloe Bailey. Adam Ray. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Who the hell is Adam Ray?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Adam Ray, the one who goes.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, Rosa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that one.

[Monet X Change]

I saw him in. Elliot Violet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lala Milan has done a period of odd. Period of. And now people are. This guy did a great one. I was gonna play this again, So I think so I think a lot of people are just. Are just, you know, to quote your. Your friends taking the piss out of this video.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so you and Viv ain't friends?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I meant your friends, the UK people. Viv didn't create. Taking the piss out of says Yolanda. Well, because she's British. Because she's British. Nick bitch.

[Monet X Change]

This morning I was at the gym, the Queen's funeral. I mean, I would not want my funeral.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is insane.

[Monet X Change]

And no disrespect to the British people, but it is insane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your funeral, what they heard.

[Monet X Change]

It's this grand march for like miles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your funeral won't be grand.

[Monet X Change]

Everyone is marching at like a snail's pace. I'm like this. I'm like put this woman, she probably just wants to go to Rest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is. She is arrest. She's dead. She's dead.

[Monet X Change]

But like not all this. Like, would you want your funeral to be so crazy?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, one, I'll be dead. I would have.

[Monet X Change]

No, but what would you want? Let's say like would you want someone to just burn, cremate you and put me in an urn? Do you want someone? Do you want this grand procession?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let's talk about this from a few perspectives. I think that people who want to mourn the Queen want to have an opportunity to do it and they want to be part of the mourning and there's probably some way to unify them all through this thing. Now, however people want to celebrate my, my death or my life after my death. I hope that it's not inconveniencing anyone, but you know, death is inconvenient.

[Monet X Change]

So there's this video of this kid. So there was some type of ceremony in London where there's motorcade going and he was just, just like, he was skateboarding like the opposite way. When I tell you four police officers tackle this 17 year old kid to the ground and they are mushing his head on a thing because he was just skateboarding the wrong way. I was like, guys, what do you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

think would happen if a random kid was skateboarding toward the President's motorcade?

[Monet X Change]

But he was on the sidewalk just skating. But the crowd was walking this way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was skating that way.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, not toward the Moto Cave.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cuz that's what I'm like. Yeah, you we got to think we'll

[Monet X Change]

talk about in a second.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But yeah, like, like there, there's videos of when obsessed with. I believe. Yeah. I love When Kamala Harris was in la, someone tried to get into her motorcade and they got, they were like protesting which you're allowed to do, but they started protesting toward the cars and they got beat the up. Yeah, they like, they got Secret Service beat them up.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it was like you. I mean that's what's going to happen if you try to approach the Vice President.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

We're talking about bad Barbie, Brit Barbie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But anyway, so that's what I mean. I, I just don't know enough about Brit Barbie to. And most people who are, who are saying like most. A lot of them are saying like it's not even about her. It's about the fact that she's getting so much notoriety. But I, I would. Would you ever want that kind of notoriety?

[Monet X Change]

I would not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That seems like what If. What if, like. What if, like, love like this went viral? Because everyone thought it was just shit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I wouldn't. I would want. That would make me feel terrible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, it has happened for a few people where their song, people were making fun of it, and then it ended up becoming a legitimate career. Blueface. So Tatiana was like, the idea was like, this guy can't rap. Like, why can't he rap? Why is he offbeat the entire time? Like, why is Blueface such a bad rapper? And then he. He was just like, you know what? I'm just going to roll with it. He goes, my thing is that I rap off beat. And then he had a remix with Cardi B on it. Like, it was. It was this huge thing.

[Monet X Change]

He also had this. This very toxic relationship. Him and Christian Rock. And they are bitches. They're always going at it, like, beating each other up, and it's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blueface is really beautiful, though.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he's gorgeous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He is.

[Monet X Change]

Him and his girlfriend, Christian Rock. You don't follow Shade Room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, girl.

[Monet X Change]

They are always.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shade Room's messy. They always fight with Cardi B, too.

[Monet X Change]

There's always Christina. Rock and Blueface are always going through it. It's like, I'm like, when you hear about toxic relationships like that, it's like, how can this be a thing? Like, it just sounds. It just sounds exhausting. It sounds painful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blueface isn't verified on Instagram.

[Monet X Change]

He's very beautiful. He has a lot of tattoos.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's not verified.

[Monet X Change]

That's so weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blueface is very pretty. Oh, so pretty good. Looking good for you, Blueface. Very, very, very gorgeous. But that is a situation where your song goes viral for being bad, and then you end up kind of just, like, being a hit. I can't think of too many war situations we're in that has happened. I mean, back in the day, people like William Hung would go viral.

[Monet X Change]

He was. Because he sang on American Idols.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She bangs.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she bangs. She bangs. And I just had a thought. I just lost it. It was very important, clearly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Talking about people going viral, people who went viral or had a big sensation from not being good, it's gone, but. And I really felt bad for Rebecca Black, too, back in the day. I felt so bad for her because it was like. Because there were moments where it was like. There were some big moments, like where they did it on Glee.

[Monet X Change]

They do it on Glee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Glee did Friday.

[Monet X Change]

And I mean, but she made. She made them royalties. Honey on it. She got. Well, depending on what hers. What her splits. Are with publishing. She may have not gotten anything from it. So it's for you someone to like be going. So for you to be going through all that and you still not even getting a dollar because you don't own any of the masters or anything like that. That would suck. At least if. At least if you have to endure this pain, give me some type of compensation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wonder.

[Monet X Change]

So she puts out music a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Friday. She must have taken it down and put it back up because Friday only has 16 million.

[Monet X Change]

Spotify wasn't around back then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Friday has 16 million listens and her song Yoga or a song called Yoga featuring Rebecca Black has 11 million. But she must. Friday must. And I think the video got taken down too.

[Monet X Change]

Spotify wasn't around when this first came out. Friday came out like, I think I was still in high school or maybe middle school. I don't know where I was at. What year does come 11 years ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And the video has 162 million views. Damn, that is wild.

[Monet X Change]

It came on her channel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, 162 million. But then she. But she embraced it because she did a remix of it with Big Frida on it a year ago for the 10 year anniversary work when they did the 10 university. Big Freeda was on the Friday remix.

[Monet X Change]

I was not in middle school. I was student teaching out of middle school because that was my junior year of college.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Those are the videos. I want to go watch the videos of Monet teaching.

[Monet X Change]

I was student teaching in college. That's why I'm associating with middle school. Have you ever taught? Well, you did because you used to teach kids. Middle school kids was the worst. Elementary was cool. High school was a little harder. Middle school. Sixth, seventh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Eighth grade. Seventh graders are the worst people on the planet.

[Monet X Change]

Terrible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Seventh graders are the worst people on the planet. They were horrible. There's like domestic terrorists. And then right underneath that is seventh graders. They're horrible people.

[Monet X Change]

They were not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because you don't know who you are. Because sixth graders are like children.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sixth graders are like adolescent, like Disney kids. And then something happens in seventh grade

[Monet X Change]

while the body's changing and you become mtv.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You go from Disney to. And then seventh grade. And then you come out on mtv. And that little transition period.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They be trying to prove too much. Doing too much.

[Monet X Change]

It's too much, Joanna. Too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, lil NASA's doing a song with Saucy Suntana.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, of course. I mean, yes. That they're the two biggest queer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag me.

[Monet X Change]

They're like the two biggest Queer artists out right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag me. Who do you think has more monthly listeners?

[Monet X Change]

Lil Nas X.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, you didn't let me say who. Saucy, Santana or RuPaul?

[Monet X Change]

RuPaul. Okay, no, Saucy Santana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Saucy has 2.5 milli.

[Monet X Change]

Saucy Santana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

RuPaul has 1.1 milli.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Saucy Santana for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Saucy or Todrick?

[Monet X Change]

Todrick for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Todrick has 1.7.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Saucy has 2.5 work.

[Monet X Change]

Lunas X is Aussie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I say Lunas X. Lunas X is gonna have way lunatic. Okay, I'm gonna assume that Lunas probably has a 15 million monthly listeners. Let's see, Saucy or bad Barbie? Lunas X has 35 million monthly listens. Bad Barbie has way more monthly lessons.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How many bad Barbie have 2.5 million. Yeah, well, not way more, but she's. She has more.

[Monet X Change]

No, SA. 2.7. Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

2.3. I think Saucy has 2.5. They're both the same.

[Monet X Change]

The same. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Saucy. Because Saucy has.

[Monet X Change]

Saucy has the gays. He has. And he has the black audience. And did you know that black people are the biggest consumers of media?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean by that? How do you quantify that?

[Monet X Change]

It's a stat that they said on the View that black people are the biggest consumers of media.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then that doesn't make sense.

[Monet X Change]

That's what they said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How can 13% of the population consume more media than the arrest. That doesn't even make sense.

[Monet X Change]

That's what they said. That's what they had said. Sunny Hostin on the View on Friday's episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But how is that? I'm very. I'm not saying it's wrong, but that is. That is a shocking statistic.

[Monet X Change]

I know for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A very, very shocking statistic.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. Like, maybe. I don't me. I don't know. Because we are 13%. I don't know no black people now 16%. Not 13. 16. You and I just did this recently

[Bob the Drag Queen]

on something and you said it then you're wrong then too. You said the same thing. You're like, now we're 16%. Like, no, we're about 13% of the US population. You know, someone Google something, they start getting quiet. They just put their phone.

[Monet X Change]

No. Oh, he gets to answer that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, we're doing a podcast. I'm not gonna answer right now. But also, if black people consume the most of the media, you would think it would be Reflective in the media.

[Monet X Change]

That's why they were saying, like, so when you like. Oh. Cause it was on the episode, first of all. Oh, we kind of talked about this before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no.

[Monet X Change]

On the live podcast. It was on the episode when they had Viola Davis and the cast of the Woman King talking about the movie and, like, why it's so important, whatever. And Viola brought up the TikTok statistic that Black people are the biggest consumers media. And then Sunny had like, document. Oh, you're right. Black people are 12.4% of the US population. That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is crazy. What? That's crazy. Like low or crazy high?

[Monet X Change]

I don't feel crazy low. I just feel like, bitch, we everywhere, y'.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All.

[Monet X Change]

Let me tell you about these niggas and these cookies. So we're playing. We're. So we had a game night in my suite here in Milwaukee with the house of discount. Bob, myself and Kennedy, they all wanted to order insomnia cookies. And then they're going around these fucking cookies. And then if you don't know what insomnia cookies are, they're in, like, a lot of states. I didn't realize. I thought they were New York theme for the longest time. I didn't realize they were like a national brand.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is so New Yorker.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To think everything is.

[Monet X Change]

It started in New York.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's only in New York.

[Monet X Change]

It started in New York, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't even know that for sure.

[Monet X Change]

I'm guessing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I know you're guessing. As I'm googling, you're getting less and less sure.

[Monet X Change]

This nigga loves that damn Android. Please. Wait a second.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You keep doing. I'm a Google, so.

[Monet X Change]

So, you know, insomnia cookies. Like, the whole thing is that we're insomnia. Like, we stay open late until 3:00am so they start ordering cookies at like 12:30 or like 1:00 clock in the morning. And they were waiting for like an hour. And I want to New York, Pennsylvania, close. An hour and a half has passed. Well, Jacob. Jacob knew. He's from Pennsylvania. An hour and a half has passed. I'm like, the cookies still don't come. Come to find out, they just. They just stop making cookies at 1am instead of the 3am that they have a big sign in the fucking building that they do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The whole thing of them so many cookies is you can order cookies late.

[Monet X Change]

Late.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's the whole thing.

[Monet X Change]

So then Kennedy and Patty just came to the room. It is now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the thing was. So the thing was like, Kennedy called and I Was like, you're cooking. Cookies will be available at noon tomorrow. That's what it said.

[Monet X Change]

So Katie and Patty went to go to the store to find out what's going on, and they are still hemming and horned by these fucking cookies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're like, oh, yeah, we just didn't open up. Our opener never came. Y' all need to get y' all cookie shit together. Get your chips in order. Your chocolate chips in order. Bring me these cookies.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, a chocolate chip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, if you owe break a chocolate hip.

[Monet X Change]

If you want extra seasoning, you do a little chocolate dip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, you can put it in a smoothie. Chocolate sip.

[Monet X Change]

Mmm. I ride in my new car, baby. I'm in my chocolate whip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know when it's really tiny, Just a little chocolate blip.

[Monet X Change]

You go to the drag show, you give Bob a chocolate tip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gotta get it real fast. Chocolate quip. When this ass sit down on my

[Monet X Change]

pants, it's a chocolate rip.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ooh. I fell chocolate slip. Okay, that's not good. This chocolate is in a gang. Chocolate crip.

[Monet X Change]

You gonna mess around and find out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This nigga always. Y' all is Bob the drunkard. This nigga always throwing gang signs and doing some hood shit.

[Monet X Change]

I don't do all that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't do that over here, bitch. The fucking critical trollo Steve walk into the meet and greet. Me like, what the f? I feel like they're not looking for me. But, you know, you never know. I feel like I'm not on the radar. But you never, ever were you ever

[Monet X Change]

approached to being a gang?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Approached? No, no, never. Not even a single solitary.

[Monet X Change]

I think. I think I was too gay. They were like, we don't want this faggot ass nigga in our shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. No one wanted to be in a gang. No one wanted to be like,

[Monet X Change]

is there a gay gang? Like, a legit, like, gay, like, gang, like, gun swinging, like gang niggas? I wonder.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm sure there are gay people in gangs, but I don't know if there is a exclusively gay gang.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That would be very shocking.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To me, because, you know, whenever I talk to security guards who work at the gay clubs, they're always like, I'd rather work at the gay clubs than the straight bars. The straight bars are so, like. They're like. Gay guys just don't fight like that. Like, gay guys just are not as a group, as a whole. They're not that violent. They're much more catty and snide, and they get. They do get turned, but they're just not. They just don't want to fight the way that, like, straight guys want to fight.

[Monet X Change]

Straight guys love to fight, bitch. But I tell you, I have been to Industry bar at least three, a handful of times and see people tussling in that fucking bathroom. One time, this nigga picked up somebody and body. These two faggots were fighting in the bathroom. Industry. Chris Dunbar, if you listen to this, you know, and bitch, he. It was like he picked him up

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like he was Kane in the WWE

[Monet X Change]

and, like, slammed him on his back on the concrete.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, this is like, what is going on?

[Monet X Change]

They were two white dudes

[Bob the Drag Queen]

don't know how to act in public. And I was like. I was like, what is going on? Like, what could have happened?

[Monet X Change]

Like, didn't he, like, suck his dick too hard?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I remember years ago, there was this. This, like, a cocktail server at therapy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was like, this, like, really, like. He was very fit, but very. She was like a tiny little.

[Monet X Change]

Very sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, like, so nice. Like, I've never seen him speak above a whisper. Never. He had a big old booty, too. I remember he had a bubble of a booty and he was. But then this other guy, this, like, little, like, cub, like a little solid little cub kept making fun of him. Like, it was like saying. Apparently they brother. They were both like, kind of. I kind of knew them both. Not. We weren't like. I wasn't like, friends. They. One of them worked at initial one, I think the other one just knew a friend of ours. He was Dustin Clodfelter's friend, right? And. And then the little cub bear guy one day was just apparently a little tipsy and looked at the little. The little fitness twink and was like, you will never be anything. You are a waiter. You will always be a waiter. And that's why you're just like a dumb little cocktail serving this little twink. Apparently, like, three people had to pull him off because this guy was like, bloody Molly walked. He just started, like, just like he was. And I asked myself, girl, he goes, I just saw red. I just. I don't even remember attacking him. I just. All I could see was red. And then next thing I knew, I looked up and he was just. They were both before I even knew they were. What's the line from Chicago? Before I even knew they were dead. Yeah, well, I completely blacked out. I can't remember a thing. It was only after I was washing the blood off my hands. They had it coming. Yeah. Have you Ever been in, like, a rage like that.

[Monet X Change]

And when I was in middle school, I purged a lot of that behavior out of me. Bob. I don't mean, like, as Kameka. We said Kamika. I was a very toxic kid. And I. When I. I don't have to ask.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's remnants. I fully believe it.

[Monet X Change]

So I was very toxic. You had to do no convincing. And like, when. Like, literally when I transitioned to high school, I was like, I can't be like this. Cause I was like. I was like, I don't want to go down the wrong path. Like, I want a different life for myself. I was like, I need to stop this, like, talking toxic, nasty behavior. But I. That's how I was. I was, like, fighting all the time like that. But it's also survival, right? Because you're this, like, fucking fat gay kid. Everyone's making fun of you all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, people say stuff like, oh, when I get mad, it's done. You know, people said that I'm not one of those people. I'm. I'm never so mad that I just am, like, out of control. I have. I have practically no memories in my whole life of being so mad that I was just completely out of control. That's just never. But. And people say this. All the people are always like, oh, honey, you don't want to give me me when I'm mad. It's done.

[Monet X Change]

When you. When you body signed that guy Hardware, I think you were mad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was defending myself.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but you were angry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I stood up and I calmly walked. I wasn't, like, out of control. I. I literally just. I didn't slam him and start pomming him and, like, beating his face in, like, the. The bloody twink. I just. I just. I got him off me, and I stood up and I said, hey, guys, I'm gonna go now.

[Monet X Change]

See, I think that you. You're misinformed because you were so angry. There were four security guards out to get you off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's. There's footage. There's footages, and I think we all know that, but I just. I just. I don't. I've never. You've been like. Like in a rage before where you can't stop yourself.

[Monet X Change]

When I went to fight that guy who scammed me, when I. When I saw him outside of industry, like, years later, I. I went back to that place. I was, like, in a rage. I was. I was trying to. I wanted to. I wanted to fuck him up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think about what would happen if you did not.

[Monet X Change]

In the moment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The consequences.

[Monet X Change]

In the moment, I just wanted to get even. I wanted to. In that moment, I wanted to beat the shit out of him. I wanted to get even.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Living well is the best revenge. And look how well you're living. Look at you and your sweet honey.

[Monet X Change]

My sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm in a broom closet downstairs.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, this is our Tonight. So this is the. Today's. The Milwaukee show. This is going to be our fourth show on the tour, which means we're about almost a third. About a third through.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we have a special guest tonight. Brit Barbie's coming.

[Monet X Change]

I'm kidding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a bit.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God. I gotta say, Bob, we talking about her. Apparently we're platforming. Britt Barty Barbie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, also, all the people who are complaining about Britt Barbie are also platforming.

[Monet X Change]

Right. So and so are you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also we platform a lot of queer people and black people. And like, we. We do a great. We're. We do a great job at platforming. Lots of, you know,

[Monet X Change]

you try to convince me of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not convinced. I'm just stating.

[Monet X Change]

Right. We do. We do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just kidding, baby. Milwaukee.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. We're in Milwaukee. We're about to throw it to the tour. How are you feeling so far?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel pretty good, I think. I honestly feel like our show is so good. I. Apparently, you know, this is not baloney, but a lot of the promoters and the venue people who work at venues are saying stuff like I've. And this is. We're not making this up. They're saying stuff like, I have never seen a show get this many standing ovations. Did you hear the. Yeah, they say. I've never seen a show get like six standing ovations in one show. That is unreal. Heard of. And, you know, I've been to a lot of. Our show is not the. The spectacle that is Work the World, but it is a very brilliant show. I just saw some clips of Work the World who apparently just went on Roam the road as well.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they're. They're. I think they're an American album.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just the show looks, first of all, just insane.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just so different from when I

[Monet X Change]

was doing Worth the World.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember when we first got stairs and I was like, stairs. Now there's like Kim Cheese doing a number. There's a disco ball.

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And there's a.

[Monet X Change]

She's a teabag. She's a Boston Tea Party.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. There's a disco ball.

[Monet X Change]

And there's like a. Oh, because she does kiss. She does Jessie Ware. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And there's a disc and there's a Go Go boy on, like, riding the disco ball.

[Monet X Change]

Like, Kim comes down. They have Kim up. They hoist her down. Like. Cause she dressed as a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, Kim do a teabag.

[Monet X Change]

Just a big tea bag. And they dip her into the. The water.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then there's also a Jada Essence hall, as in, like, this dome with, like, two rings. It's like. It is. It really is crazy. I remember looking at being like, this is. What is this drag show? A wild drag show.

[Monet X Change]

That's Obarman. Have you ever been to Old Bar in Manila? Oh, you haven't been to Asia to perform? Obar in Manila is Wild Bob. It is a such a great drag bar. They're like. Bitches are flying through the. Through the bar on Accords. They have, like, these huge cast, like, 20 dancers. It's insane. It's just a drag bar in Manila.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I worked at Lucky Chang, they had this dream when we first opened up the midtown location where they were gonna have this, like, this, like, thing where you lift it to the middle of the room, and it was gonna be all this stuff coming around it. And it was literally just a cherry picker. Not a cherry picker. A cherry picker is like a. Maybe I'm not using the right word, but it's like.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, that thing with the. And it has that platform.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, got it. Let me make sure I'm using the right word. Cherry pick. Well, not quite a cherry picker, but it was like some sort of a crane like thing that goes straight up so you can, like, grab things. They were going to decorate it and just none of it ever happened. Linking Chains in Midtown was like, such a crunchy crunch.

[Monet X Change]

They had a lot going on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There was a lot going on. The owner was literally passing away, and people were stealing from the company. Like, Chains was just. It was a. It was a wild show. It was a. It was a. I'm not going to talk too bad about it, but Lucky James is still up and running. Is it? Yeah. It operates within stage 42 now, or stage 47.

[Monet X Change]

I was too young. I was. I was just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or at least it did. I don't know where it goes now.

[Monet X Change]

I was just starting drag when. When Lucky Shang's. Well, like, for me, I was just starting it when Lucky Chang started to. Well, the big one that all the girls worked at was trying to, like, fizzle out. And then there was the. Well, I didn't have the option, but there's also Lips, which is another drag restaurant bar situation. But I don't know. I just. I was just doing the regular nightclub thing. I didn't do one of those gigs. Although back then, those things, they sounded so appealing to me because I'm like, oh, you can just, like, you have, like, a job that's dedicated to that. But I didn't want to do food service.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lucky Change was really fun. It was really fun to work there. Like, Lips was kind of like Disney, and Lucky Change was like hbo. Like, it was, like, so vulgar, so raunchy, so messy. Like, everyone was on co coke, Everyone was stealing. Everyone was. It was just a raucous. I want to. Allegedly. Allegedly. You heard what you said.

[Monet X Change]

No, Allegedly. Okay, got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now, the. All I know is that, like, the. The accountant. Allegedly a lot of money was missing, and when they found out that a lot of money was missing, she just straight up moved to Cambodia or. But she was not Cambodian. She was, like, a black lady from Maryland. And, like, was like, I'm getting out of, like, one day. The accountant just, like, allegedly just did not. Just was like, didn't show up. Like, where is she? Where is the accountant?

[Monet X Change]

Because that's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everybody was mopping for Lucky Jane. It was wild.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. That's sad.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, friendships were breaking up. I got into arguments with friends. One of my friends said I was trying to. Still trying to get me fired.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, it is going off with the ball that we all know and love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Bob is known for her thievery. If Bob is known for one thing, it is for thieving.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I have a question. If you could live at any time that wasn't now, like, in the past, I know you have.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't time travel. I don't time travel.

[Monet X Change]

Can I just finish, finish, excluding the race stuff, if race wasn't a thing and, like, there's a time that you like to live, like, which, like, what would it be? Just. Just play along. I obviously. There are obviously reasons why we would not want to go back in time. Bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really want to be here because

[Monet X Change]

of shit going down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I want to. I also. I honestly, I've never. I just never really fantasized about the past.

[Monet X Change]

I've never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One of the folks, like, I was born in the wrong era. I've never, like, idolized the 80s or the 60s or the.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was alive in the 80s. Not much, but I was for four years. I had a good four years in the 80s. Three and a half technically, but I've never really like been like, ooh, that's 60s. Because like, if it's just. If it's just the fashion you want, then just dress like that now. But I want technology, I want my phone, I want a laptop computer. Those are the things I want in my life. So if I want bell bottoms, I would just wear bell bottoms now.

[Monet X Change]

I would say the 70s for me, easily, just not sure would be. But back then you wouldn't even have a concept of that. So nothing that you would want but the carefreeness of the 70s. And like, we mean carefreeness like how like you, you, you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean fucking without condoms?

[Monet X Change]

Well, yeah, that's what you talking about? Yeah, that's when like drugs were super pure back then too. They weren't like so crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would crazy back then.

[Monet X Change]

They were crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dying of drug overdoses all the time, were they? Yes.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, people die of drug overdoses now. Everyone. People doing drugs now. You got to be people fucking dying on fentanyl. Fentanyl is like, knock is taking people the fuck up out of here. Do not be doing drugs, girl. Fentanyl will kill you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The only one promoting drugs on the podcast.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sorry, I'm running drugs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've never told people to do drugs on the podcast.

[Monet X Change]

I have one time with the Chelsea Handler podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you've done it. I think you've done it more than what, weed?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, that's my thing. Literally like this, this much fentanyl can kill you. And people, people are putting it on all types of drugs. So people should really be careful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you just want to go back so you can just do drugs.

[Monet X Change]

No, no drugs. But I'm saying. But like the carefulness of it and also the vibe when disco was like, when people would be like at like a club, like listening to disco from like 9:00pm until like 4:00 clock in the morning and then go to an afters and do that. Like, I don't know, where can I go now and just listen to a disco to be at a disco club all night long. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, Bunny does a tea dance.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but it's not. But it's not the same as like being in the 70s and having it be like, just like the music, like being alive with like Donna Summer being able to go to like a Donna Summer concert.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were alive during a lot of

[Monet X Change]

Donna Summer concerts when I was. When as an adult, as an adult human being, like, when Donna Summer was like in her prime, in her Hair, like, I would love to go to do that. I would love to experience those artists, like, go. Imagine. Sorry. Imagine going back to see Cher, like back then, like, Sonny and Cher. Cher and like, like all. Like, I would. That sounds so euphoric to me. That sounds so cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I mean, I saw Cher a couple of years ago and it was really wonderful.

[Monet X Change]

Where did you see her?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In Philadelphia at the arena or in Philly?

[Monet X Change]

You went by yourself?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me, Jacob and his mom or went to go see Cher.

[Monet X Change]

Was it her final.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her Cher world tour? It was Here we Go. It was called Here We Go Again.

[Monet X Change]

It was her Mamma Mia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tour. Then we got Sierra do burlesque.

[Monet X Change]

How was that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was great. Cher was amazing. Cher was absolutely stunning. But I just, I really, you know, I do this quote a lot of the podcast, but to quote Billy Joel, the good old days weren't always good and tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems. So I really feel like there's just some.

[Monet X Change]

You say that a lot on this podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've said it several times. Do you even watch Till Taylor?

[Monet X Change]

I do. Comment below if you've heard Bob say that before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the good old days weren't always good and tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems. So I feel like there's a lot of great stuff on the horizon. I'm not one of those folks who feel like everything is gloom and doom and dread, but you know those folks. Yeah, the world's gone to shit. I don't think the world's gone to shit. I think there are some irreparable damage that's been. Have. That's been done to the world. And I think that on top of worrying about our political stuff, we really need to be worrying about this fucking planet and the climate and what we're going to do about it, because that shit cannot be undone. There'll be nothing to argue over in about 500 years.

[Monet X Change]

Imagine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But we won't be around 500 years. So, like, we're not doing anything to make it urgent because none of us will be alive. Right.

[Monet X Change]

So you're not thinking about the future. Imagine what the technology is going to be like and what we're. It's safe to say that we may be alive for the next 40 years. Imagine what technology is going to be like in 40 years. Like, things that, like, imagine what it's going to look like, what the world is like. It's going to be crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the thing about it is, you know, in the time of, like, human. Human history. Ever seen this thing, like, in the time of human history, like, this is like, man walking upright, and this is today, 2022. Like, That's where electricity got invented.

[Monet X Change]

I know what I'm saying. So we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then, like, this sliver of skin is like when we landed. Is like when we landed on the moon. And like a. An iota of my knuckles, of my skin of a mitochondria is like when the cell phone was invented. Like, we were. There was all of this. We was just. There was. I mean, we didn't. We didn't even start writing until about here. Well, that's not saying or have, like, a comprehensive Alphabet until about there.

[Monet X Change]

Technology has progressed exponentially. So I'm. In the next 40 years. God knows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm one with you. We're going to get. We are in our advancement era. This is our flop era.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Eddie and I had this conversation before. We had this conversation before. He was saying, like, it's going to reach, like, oh, not a wall, but saying like. I'm saying that for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

As.

[Monet X Change]

For as much as we can advance, we will always be advancing more and more and more and more into what? And he is like, no, we're going to reach, like, a thing where, like, that's it. There's no more. I was like, for example, like, he. I should probably have him so he could, like, justify what.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If only he had his phone number.

[Monet X Change]

I can call right now. I don't know who's going to answer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello, my dove.

[Monet X Change]

Hello, babe. We're on the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And Bob and I. So what?

[Monet X Change]

The conversation we were having, like, we. We've had, like, three times, which is like. So, like, you're saying what is your stance on technology? That we will, like, hit a plateau or something like that. Right. And I'm saying it will always continue to advance. Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no. This is a mischaracterization of my position. Ooh.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said when we talked about this that the assumption that technology is going to progress in even a linear. Forget an exponential way, but even in a linear way isn't necessarily necessarily true. Because if you look at history, we've had, like, long periods of time where we've regressed technologically, we've lost technology, we've gone backwards in progress. And so it's not. You can't necessarily assume that, like, in 200 years we're going to be on Mars or whatever.

[Monet X Change]

That's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was my point. Unless she's an anthropologist. Wow.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're dating. Additionally, that there might not be like, there might. It might not be physically possible to do things like travel across space and time and all that.

[Monet X Change]

I think that we will. Anyway, I wanted to get your stance. I don't bastardize what you were saying.

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Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you so much. I appreciate your seeking clarity and communication always.

[Monet X Change]

I love you very much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Love you, too. Who's that famous scientist?

[Monet X Change]

Bill Nye? No, he's a. Oh, Neil degrasse.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Now he's Neil degrasse Tyson. All of that for that. I was trying to remember Neil DeGrasse Tyson's name, but I was like. I was like, it's escaping right now. Neil DeGrasse Tyson, he's blowing up on TikTok right now.

[Monet X Change]

He's. But Neil DeGrasse Tyson is always blowing up. Even before TikTok, he's always.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm saying. But he's having. He sound like a big. Like a. Specifically a TikTok moment.

[Monet X Change]

Why? What's going on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I'm also on space talk. I'm also on space travel.

[Monet X Change]

I'm on too. Have you seen the one where it starts with the Earth and Mars?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that one fucks me.

[Monet X Change]

Every time I look at it, I'm like, yo, we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why. So is this TikTok.

[Monet X Change]

It starts with, like, the Earth and, like, the different planets, the different galaxies and liquid galaxies and all the different. And I'm like, we mean nothing. Like, Bob, what are we?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But did you realize this is how tiny we are? Do you realize that the distance from the Earth to the moon, it is very far.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every planet. Every planet in our solar system can fit between the Earth and the moon.

[Monet X Change]

That's crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how far.

[Monet X Change]

And Jupiter is fucking huge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

It's like eight Earths.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's how far the Earth is from the moon.

[Monet X Change]

So that's how people are. Like, there's no intelligent life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, that is literally how also every planet in our solar system can fit inside of the sun. It's crazy. That is the. And then.

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And then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then the sun is like. The sun is tiny. Tiny computers.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. And then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then the galaxy. Like, Bob, we.

[Monet X Change]

Why are we doing this tour? What are we doing? Why we're. Nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it does occur to sound like when this is like, when the Earth is obliterated, none of this will matter at all. Nothing. Nothing will last.

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I will say that this, what we have going, probably foreseeably last for another, like, thousand years, and then it's over.

[Monet X Change]

It's a wrap.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, it Depends on how well the Earth does it.

[Monet X Change]

Depends on the sun, which, when the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

sun is ready to be done, the sun will not be done. In a thousand years, the sun's not going to explode. Yeah, for, like, millions of years. But we may not even be able to sustain life on this Earth after, like, a thousand years.

[Monet X Change]

We're going to have to wally it. We're going to have to get on a ship and just be floating around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what I'm saying is, like, in the grand scheme of things, none of this matters, but in this moment, it does matter, which is so crazy.

[Monet X Change]

That's why life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what, like, life is.

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It.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does it feel existential to you?

[Monet X Change]

It feels existential. And like, when I was, like, doing martial arts and shit, this is where my brain goes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I be like.

[Monet X Change]

I be, like, gagging. I'm like, bitch, this means nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But doesn't it mean something just because it's happening? Like, why does it. What makes it mean something? What gives it value?

[Monet X Change]

You. The value you put on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then it does mean something. But because it depends. We each get to decide if what we're doing has any value at all. Because you do stuff that has no value. We all do stuff that has no value. You did something today where you picked something up and you forgot you did it. That had no value. Because you don't assign it any value. You know what I mean? And because a lot of stuff that you and I create, a lot of people give it shared value. But then, on the other hand, a lot of those people, they'll all be dead too, one day. So, like, the Queen's funeral, this big procession, it seems like a lot.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When this Earth is done, that's it. Like, there won't even be anyone to remember that we existed.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. And then. So do you think that maybe, like, aliens be, like, see, looking at us? I mean, studying, like, these motherfuckers are so stupid, they don't even know how to quantum leap yet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think so. I don't think anyone's observing us. I don't think that. I think that if there are aliens out there who can. Who can see us. I don't think that they are beyond the desires that we as humans have to, like, intervene and touch and mingle.

[Monet X Change]

But that may be just because that is you. That is all the parameters that you're bringing. That's a possibility can fathom. You know what I mean? Whereas they're thinking, these beings that may be billions of years more smarter than us, they're like, oh, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's what, that's what your view

[Bob the Drag Queen]

is as an earthling, that's a possibility. But I think that to conquer as an earthling in general is all I know. And it's what a lot of people do. And it's not just humans. A lot of animals conquer. You know what I mean? And to go and conquer other things is a. Is. It feels like a survival trait. Not even just humans, but like, plant life conquers. Like, you know, kudzu was brought to Georgia. This kind of plant that just ate everything up. And it just conquers. And it just, it tries its best. There are some plants and some animals and some people who do coexist, but then all you need is one that's trying to conquer. And then it throws off the whole thing. You realize, like, when you lock your door, most people. Even if you left your front door open, most people will walk past it. You lock and close your door for that one out of a thousand people who will try to jiggle your shit. You're not doing it for the, for the, for the population in general.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're doing it for that one person.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just to stop that one person from trying to fuck your shit up.

[Monet X Change]

But I use a sample. I know we have to go. We're at 1 minute 7. The example of an ant hill in the middle of the desert. Like, we're not. We're not thinking to check on them because, like, these ants, they don't mean anything. There's nothing that we have ants that we study already. We don't need those ants. That's what I think about when I say, like, aliens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There would be, you said aliens observing

[Monet X Change]

us, though, like, galaxies away.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But we also don't know that ant hills there. There might be an anthill there. But we do study other ants. We have. When we have ants and we study them, we observe them, we. We intervene.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when you're saying, do I think there are aliens in a galaxy far away. Yes. Do I think we're being observed?

[Monet X Change]

No. Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think there's a chance that there are aliens who have no clue that we even exist. Or there's also a chance that we might be the most advanced species in the galaxy. There's also a chance that we are the only species in the. Maybe that we are just the only planet. And there's a chance that we don't even exist. Don't even get me started on that one, because you know that you're. I'LL go. Do you think your mind can expand time? Oh, yeah, there are instances. There's a theory that, like, when. That when you die, before you die, your mind just stretches time really long. So you think you're in heaven, you think you're in hell, you think you're in purgatory, but in reality, you're just on your way to dying. So that. So there's this, like, drug that some people are doing where it. Where this guy, like, I mean, dissociative, where this guy, like, he, like, was on the drugs and he lived an entire life, like a light entire life. Had a wife, had kids, lived the whole life and then died. And when he died, he came back, and then he was like, where are my wife and kids? Like, what? They're like, dude, you. You've been gone. You've been in your K hole for like, 10 minutes. And he was like, no, decades. He was like, I have been gone for decades. They're like, you've been gone for 10.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So there's a chance that that is what people who drift off and see heaven, that's what they're seeing. And it could last as long as your brain can foreseeable. See that you could be in that right now. You might not even be alive.

[Monet X Change]

Okay? Can you not. I am alive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't know. Yes, I do. Okay, Everybody goes into my.

[Monet X Change]

Go to the show tonight. I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't. I can't perform. All right, thank you. We go fuck up your nose. I just fucked up your. No.

[Monet X Change]

All right. And we're out. Black out.