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My name is Bob the Drag Queen
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and I'm Monet X Change.
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And this is simply rivalry.
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On this week's episode, we talk about our cats.
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Brooklyn and I realize that we're each other's perfect matches.
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We find out what made Monet say this.
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Every time Brooklyn and I talk about this stuff, I'm like, maybe Brooklyn, I should get married. And we find out what made Brooke Lynn say this.
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Fucking like, what if I have to fart? I love to fart.
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Well, well, well, here she is back on civil rivalry pod. The Queen of the North. Well, there's controversy with the Queen of the north because sometimes Priyanka calls herself the Queen of the North. So I don't know. I don't want to step on any toes or ruffle any feathers, you know?
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Absolutely. I am the OG Queen of the North.
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Let's just say that. Y', all. It's Brooke Lynn Hytes. Hi, Brookie. Hi, Mo. How are you? You know, I'm doing good. I am here in sunny California, which, as I just say that my heart aches a little bit because you are no longer a California resident. You was like, bitch, I've been here for too long. I'm out. And yeah, makes me sad.
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I said this. This shit's too expensive for me. I'm moving to Chicago.
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I mean, Chicago's expensive too, though not
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nearly as expensive as la. Like, real estate wise. No.
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Okay, fair. Yeah, real estate in LA is crazy. Like, I remember when I was looking for a house in, like, the Hollywood area, but for, like, literally, I was Seeing listings for like a two bedroom with one bath for like $1.7 million. I'm like, are y' all smoking crack? This shit is crazy.
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It's insane. But you got a. You got a great deal with a great interest rate as you turned that bitch around. And it looks so good. Are you in your drag garage right now?
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I am. I'm in my dragoon garage, girl. All the way things. I am so happy. So in long term because. So the inside phase is. The next phase is outside, which is starting June 3rd, we're renovating the outside. And then this garage is going to be like a project maybe in like three, four years where I can save some money and like, do it again. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, totally.
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No, she's, she's, she's, she's chilling. You've been renovating, too. So. So Brooklyn and I became. We bonded over. Over, like, housing and renovating and stuff. And I was getting really inspired by what she was doing and. And Brooklyn was a great confidant. So I can like, vent and be like, girl, this. Because it's. It's always more than you think, and it's just really stressful and contractors don't show up. Would you. But you're. You had a good experience with a company works with, though.
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I did. I. This is my second property that I renovated and I, knock on wood, have been very lucky with both of them. This one was good too, and it turned out really well. But they're. It's so easy to have a horror stories, and I've heard so many people have like absolute horror stories with their contractors. So you got to, like, really research who you're using. Word of mouth, I find is the best way. Like, if you find someone with a good experience, like, that's always like, gold.
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Right? But here's the thing, though. But like, in. In this process, I was like, oh, I'm like becoming a real adult person. Like, I was like, I'm like, having to like, make decisions. And like, I was like, yo, like, I'm not just this fat, booty, thick, thick and juicy lip, fat kid from Brooklyn anymore. I'm like an adult. Like, talking about renovating a house. Like, who the fuck am I? Who gave me the right? It's very.
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I know.
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Yeah.
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And your priorities change. Oh, like, you're like, I'm like, I'm not spending $2,000 on a fucking sequin rhinestone outfit anymore.
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I was like, that far?
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I was like, no, no, no. I was like, I see. I see these Girls with this custom couture hand, beaded hand rhinestone. And I'm like, that is. I'm like, that is a bathroom. That is a bathroom. Like, I. Those days. Those days were never really there for me, but those days are for sure gone for me.
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Like, no, you see, but Brooklyn. But here's the thing with you, though, because you say that, but then you walk on a Canada drag race looking like $10 trillion million dollars, so fuck you.
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Well, that's also on somebody else's dime,
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so
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that part, trust me, I would
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not be spending that much money, girl.
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I mean, it is kind of crazy. Like, you do these two seasons of Drag Race a year as the host, and you just have these. The looks are just crazy. And, like, the way, like, from season one, you're like, okay, I'mma just dip my little toe. And then season two, three, you are just. It's just crazy. The glam is fucking crazy.
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Yeah, well, season one was like. It was such a wild time in my life because I was still touring for my season. Like, it was. You know, you remember that first year after your OG season where you just did not stop. And so I was, like, just going, going. I didn't even have time to get anything made. Like, it was all literally just, like, the one designer I was working with at the time, like, just pumped it all out. And then I was like. It was only, like, after the thought, the fact that I was like, oh, shit, I should have put a little bit more effort into these looks. And then season two, it was nice, though, because you got. You kind of got the glow up moment. Yes, but, I mean. And, yeah, like, I look fine. But honestly, like, just the level of drag in general on the show, Like. Like, I'm not talking about specifically Canada's Drag Race, but more just like, Drag Race in general. Like, the level we're seeing, especially with this new All Stars season, is just like. Like, what are we. What. What are we supposed to do after this? Like, after plastique? Like, where. Where do we go from here after. God, what are we supposed to do? Light ourselves on fire?
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It's kind of crazy. Like, what. What are those crazy moments for me was when hearing how, like, because last week shot her. Shot her looks in Vietnam, and then how they dyed the sand pink to make sense with the picture, I was like, that is a level of detail. And that I. Is like, what the fuck are we supposed to do now?
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I. I could never. I could never.
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And.
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And most of. And most of us could never. I like that the Mind on that girl is, like, insane. Like, and I don't even want to. Like, I was thinking about it today and I was like, you know how people on Tick Tock or on Twitter making those. Like, who is the. The biggest fashion girl? And they had all those, like, side by sides, and then they had her. And I'm like, I don't even think. I think. I don't even think calling her a fashion girl is enough.
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Yeah, like, it's not.
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It's, like, beyond fashion. Yeah, it's. It's like, it's insane. And I mean, talk about spending money. Apparently she spent, like, crazy amounts of money, and it looks like she spent crazy amounts of money, but she makes that Tick Tock money. It's a different.
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It's different girl. It's different.
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It's different.
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It's different. Like, that's the thing also, like, to get into the social medias of it all, like, getting into TikTok and, like, I'll have, like, spurts while I'll make a few videos. But, you know, it is dedication, right? Like, she spends a lot of her time, like, fucking, like, creating these TikToks and editing them. And, like, she's really putting in that time and effort, so to be so. Because I've seen some people mad. Well. Well, it's not fair because she's on tick. It's like, no, but she's putting in the fudgeing work to make, and it's paying off. Like, why y' all mad?
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That's her job. It's like her literal job. And it literally is a job and it's a lot of work. Yeah, that is a lot of work. So, yeah, good for her. Props to her.
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Yeah, props to your mama. Props to. Yeah. Okay, wait, so I want to ask, are you happy with your move to Chicago or you, like, sometimes being like, damn, I really miss the sunshine and warmth of la.
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There are moments. I mean, I was back, I think, in January. Don't give me that look. I was back in January for. For some fittings. And of course, like, January in Chicago is not. Not the one. And I had a little moment where I was like, what. What did I do?
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Why did I move?
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And I was also just going through it in general. But, yeah, no, I don't. I don't super miss it. I mean, I love my place here. It's. It's finally really come together and, like, it's starting to feel like a home. And I. I do miss occasionally the weather in la, sure. But, like, I can just get on a plane and go to LA if I really want to be there. You know, it's not the end of the day.
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Yeah.
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I'm that girl.
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And she's not spending $8,000 on a beat of gown. She can fly where she wants and do it and dip and do.
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Exactly.
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How do your cats like it though? I mean, so I have a, I have a sphinx. Let's call her sphinx. She fully has hair and. But like, because I've been traveling with her since I had her, like anytime, like on a plane, she's good. I put her different people cats at her. She gets on other cats. Like, my cat is super. And people always say I have a very low maintenance cat. Like, besides her being vocal, she's very vocal. That's the only thing. But other than that, she gets along. She eats anything. She, she'll use other little boxes. I don't have to have like 2 and 3. She doesn't like pee and shit. I hear people say, like, oh yeah, my cat pee on my counter. I'm like, that is my cat is. She has literally never ever peed in anything that was not her little box. Ever.
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Same. I mean, I couldn't. Like, I, I've been so spoiled with both of my cats. They are so chill, low maintenance. I like, I, I can leave them alone for like two days because they have an automatic litter box. Like they. Yeah, I, I can just leave them for a couple days if I'm going on a quick little trip. Like I'm going to Salt Lake City tomorrow and I'm just leaving them by themselves.
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Yeah.
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And they're fine.
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Yeah.
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But. Yeah, they've never, they've never peed or pooed anywhere that they weren't supposed to. They. They get hairballs and like they throw up occasionally, but I feel like that's just, that's normal. Cats with hair.
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Yeah.
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Like when they, because they, they groom themselves and they, they like literally swallow hair and then they like throw it up. Yeah. So that's kind of gross. Okay.
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So my brain. You just made that connection for me because. Because I. I've seen like cartoons should. Hairballs. I was wondering, I was wondering how did the hair is. Because they're licking themselves and the hair is just. They're eating hair constantly.
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Constantly cleaning themselves. Yeah.
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That makes.
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Yeah.
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Work.
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But they're good. They're chill.
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Yeah.
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The most like it. They're easy.
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Yeah. The most I've left Colleen for time was three days. I think three days is her max. But again, I have like an automatic Feeder. I have an automatic feeder for her, and I have everything. And I. And, well, because I love my girls so much, if I go away, like, I put an alarm in my thing that at like 11:00am I'll put on the TV at like 7:00pm, like, remotely so that she can feel like. And hear sounds and feel like she's not alone by herself.
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Oh, that's nice. How did you come up with the name Colleen?
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I was. I always think, like, real people names for pets is so stupid. I was like. To have like, a category. Colleen is so dumb. So I just did it.
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I love that. This is so Henry.
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Henry. You know? He looks like a Henry, doesn't he? He does. He looks like a Henry. For sure.
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He's so sweet.
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I love him.
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You say hi.
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Hi, kitty.
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He's a very good boy. He's very good.
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Well, you have two. Would you get a third? Is that too much?
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I thought about it, but now I think it's too much at this point. And this space is good. Like, it's a. It's a really nice, like, big space, and it's good for two. And, like, and they. They both have a friend. Like, they have someone to hang out with. And like, I've been so lucky with two. Like, they're both such good cats. I don't want to fuck it up with three.
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Girl, you get a third one and just start wrecking shit. Start crawling up on your cabinet, knocking your pictures over. You'd be like, what the fuck?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah. So I have a. I have a cat allergies. I went to a fucking allergist. I told the story, you know, I found out what I'm allergic to. Horses, Rice. Rice. Mice and rats. Dogs and cats and. But I think so, like, the first three weeks I had Colleen, it was a nightmare. My eyes were red. I was like. I was stuffy, congested. And then my body acclimated. So I'm still allergic, but because I'm used to, it's fine. But I've always wanted a, like a Maine coon. Or like, because Henry's what? Maine coon. It doesn't make me go, yeah, I want, like, one of those big hairy ones. But I know will fuck me up. But I also heard my friend, you know. You know my friend Taylor O'Rear tall. Yeah. Yeah. He has a big one called. His name is Murph. It's like an orange one, like this huge fucking mango. I want that. I want that shit so bad.
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Yeah, they're. And they're like dogs. They're so friendly, and they're just chill and, like, easy to be around. Like, he's the easiest cat. He just wants, like, cuddles all the time. That's it.
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Were yours rescues?
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One of them was from Craigslist.
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Craigslist for Dick girl.
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And cats.
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You can get cats and you can get cats on Craigslist. It was. He was a rescue from Craigslist. This lady was moving, and my best friend actually went and picked him up for me. He didn't tell me, and he just put him in my apartment and surprised me. And I came home from work one night and I had a cat there.
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Okay, wait, hold on. So you weren't. Did you want a cat?
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Yeah, I had been, like, talking about it for a while, but I just, like. I just wasn't doing anything about it. I was so, like. He was just like, well, I'm just gonna get you a cat then. So he got me one.
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I could imagine if I was like this on bother. Yeah, Bob, I really want a cat. Okay. Bob showed up. I don't think I would take that cat. I'm like, girl, I don't want this cat. Colleen is from a breeder. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
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Y', all, uh, oh, canceled.
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I know, but I had a specific need. I could not get a regular cat, like, and.
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And I had canceled.
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I had looked at shelters, and there were no sphinxes. There were no sphinxes anywhere. So I went to these people called. I didn't want to say their name because this story is kind of shady, but it's a sphinx breeder close to New York City. Unless I found them online. I was talking to them and they're like, okay, yeah, you could we have a cat? They brought her, brought it over for me. Everything was great. And then I took her to her. Her, like, six month checkup at the vet. And they're like, we gotta do one and run an EKG on her or whatever. Whatever the cat version of that is. A cat echo, cardiogram, whatever it is.
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I run her.
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And he goes, so just so you know, your cat has a heart murmur. And I was like, oh, my God, what does that mean? I think, is she gonna die? He's like, no, not gonna die. You just have to, like, get. Get her regular checked up, make sure her heart is doing okay, blah, blah. But we would advise you to talk to your breeder where you got the cat from and let them know because this is probably something that is in the. In the line of the breed. So I get home, I call them. I'm like, hi, this is Kevin. I got Colleen a few a few months ago. They're like, yeah, yeah. Is everything okay? I'm like, everything's fine. You should just know that the vet is saying that she has a heart murmur, and I should. I should let you guys know. And they're like, oh, no. Do you wanna. Do you want a new one? And I was like, I'm sorry, a new what? A new cat. Because. Because it's in the warranty. They're like, you can. You can bring this one back. I'm giving you one. And I was like. I was like, it's not a sweater, girl. It's a fucking cat that I've now bonded with. I was like, no, I don't want to bring her back, but I'm letting you guys know that this is probably a genetic thing. And they were like, okay, well, you still have a. You still have six more months. If you want. If you want to get a new one, let us know. We'll swap it out. I was like, this is crazy. Swap it out.
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Swap out your cat. Done. I can't imagine.
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Gagged. Gagged. Brooke.
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Damn.
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All right, let's take a small break.
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Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-contacts. But you know something that I've been thinking about, and I've talked to Trinity about this too, because she's a big, passionate lady, and I want your honest opinion. If you think that I would have a fighting chance or. Girl, don't even try. Like, I really, really, really. In 2025, I want to focus my energy in this. I want to, like, put the time in and the energy and everything. And I really want to and to Miss Continental and like, really actually compete and try to make a placement.
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Yeah, I think you could.
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Do you think I can't work? Do you really think I have the stuff? Like, for real? For real.
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I. Absolutely. I think you have the stuff. I mean, Continental. I think Continental has this. Like. Everyone thinks it's a trans beauty pageant. And that's like the first. Because that's like. Yeah, like what it's known for. But honestly, it's really not. Like it's. Yes, it's a beauty pageant, but like, you also have to be smart, you have to be talented. You have to be able to answer a question and talk. You know, these are all really important parts of the pageant. It's not just about how beautiful you look. I can't tell you the amount of times I've gone to this pageant and seen the most beautiful women not win because they can't put one word in front of the other or they don't have a lick of talent to save their lives. They're just happen to be pretty, you know, so. And you are beautiful in drag and you're smart and you're talented. So I'm not in drag.
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I heard that. You are beautiful in drag.
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In drag,
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girl. Scalp.
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Scalped. You asked me this last time I was on the pod. You and Bob were like, who would. Who would win at Miss Continental? Me or Monet? And I said, you. I told Bobby, I said, bob, you have a face for entertainer of the year.
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Wait, so, yeah. How many times did you compete, though, before you won?
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Twice. I went on my second try.
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One of the second try. But that's like unheard of, right? Normally people be like five and six times.
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Yeah, I mean, people have won on their second try, but it's. It's not common. Yeah, so it's. I was first runner up to Naysha. Naysha won my first year. Naysha Lopez. And I was her first runner up. And then I went back the next year and I won.
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Okay, fun fact.
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I've never placed lower than first runner up ever at a pageant or anything I've ever done work.
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Would you ever do another pageant system? No. You're like, I'm over pageants.
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No, I mean, it's just not my. Like, pageant was. Pageantry was like a means to an end. To kind of get me noticed and kind of get me on the radar for Drag Race. Like, I wasn't. I. I didn't do it because I was. I wanted to be part of this Continental because of the legacy. But, like, pageants in general has never been something I really cared about.
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Yeah, because even when you went on the show because you want Miss Continental, people, like, tried to pigeonhole you in the pageant thing, but you quickly, like, broke out of it because you were like. So I'm. This is not a shade to pageantry, but, like, you're. You're not just encompassed in that. Right. Some people, like, that's their identity. They're like the pageant queen. But you're. You're. You're. Your Persona is bigger than just pageantry. And I don't mean that in a negative way. To pageant. No shade to page of people, please.
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No, of course. But. Well, there is one pageant I would actually do, and it's Universal Show Queen in Hawaii. It's a really great, like, national pageant. They do it every year. And it's. The reason I would do it is because, A, I love. It has an amazing, like, legacy of, like, the people who have won, like, some of, like, the best entertainers have won that pageant. B, I love the Hawaiian people and the culture there, and they're just so fucking wonderful. And C, there's no prelims, so you literally win, and then you come back the next year and you get to give it up. And there's no. Like, it's the whole prelim thing during the year. And, like, they treat you like a car salesman, and you have to, like, sell prelims, and then you have to go to these prelims and perform for, like, 200 a booking and, like, all this. Yeah, yeah, Very that. So I was like, no. So, yeah, I would do that. I would do that pageant. That's what. That's what they're paying the national title holders. 2, 200 to 250 bucks and a ticket on Southwest Airlines.
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Okay. My first time ever having a booking outside of New York was before Drag Race. It was Roscoe's. Well, no, the first one was in. In Florida, but then Roscoe's is my second one. It was for. Do you remember xyz? I mean, did you XYZ on Sundays in Chicago? I don't know if you see. Yeah, yeah, the Bookman xyz. Shauna Book. Xyz. And I never, like, traveled for drag before. Well, the second time, but, like, you know, second time I ever Done it and then never traveled on Southwest before. So I was like, oh, Southwest Airlines. I get to the airport, you know, I check into the airport, blah, blah, blah. When I didn't realize you'd have no seats, you just. It's like a cattle call. Like, golden corral just run into. I was like, this.
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Who.
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Who does. This is a horrible idea for an airline, but it's so cheap. So I guess it does work, but it is horrible. I know girls that still travel Southwest after the race. I'm not gonna say no names that they business, but I was like, girl, no, no.
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Oh, no, man. No, ma'. Am. I mean before, Before Drag Race, when you kind of had to get yourself around. Absolutely. It was. It was the one. Because you said it was. It was cheap. It didn't cost anything to change flights like, all that, but once someone else was paying for it, girl, no, we're not doing that anymore.
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It's not worth it. I mean, and. But, you know, if you have to use Southwest Airlines to get around more power to you, it is just not a journey or a story that I can. I travel so much to deal with that I would just have anxiety all the time. It would just. It would not know if I'm going to have a middle seat or a window seat. Like. No, it would, it would. It would ruin every gig I ever did for from now until kingdom come. I would hate myself.
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Yeah, it's. It's. It was a struggle, but I. I did it for years. And I mean, I was. I was fine with it because you're just kind of used to it. And I would always, like, sneak my way into the front of, like, the A line, so I would always get, like, a good window seat. But yeah, it's, It's. It could be pretty, like, bleak if you're, like, at the back of that line.
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Is your. Is your talent online? Can I. Can I watch your talent for Continental? Is it like, on YouTube?
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Yeah, they're on there.
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Can you. Can you give us a brief. A brief description? I'm sure it was dance focused. Obvi. I would imagine.
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My first year I did Black Swan. That's like, right when, like, Black Swan was, like, came out. So I did like, White Swan, and then I did this big costume, like, a big tear away on stage and went into Black Swan. So. And that was like, I got a perfect score in talent. So that was my first year. And then the second year, I did like, a slave for you. Britney Spears, like, harem kind of remix moment with, like, a bunch of dancers on point again.
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Work.
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Yeah, my first year was better. My first year talent was better for me. The second year was like eh.
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If I did I would definitely. I would obviously sing. I would, I would pull out some Giselle, Barbie Royale and sang opera. I think that. But it would have to be because I already did on draggers. I would have to reimagine a way to make that even more like make a, make a big production. Bitch, what I want to do. Bitch, I want. I want to do some opera song, right? But then have some reveal and reveal a whole fucking chorus behind me of like 50 singers and do some fucking. Some, some fucking. Oh Fortune. It's like some crazy operatic piece and just everyone, everybody be in that fucking auditorium like what the is going. I want to do something big, some crazy over the top singing piece like that.
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That would be cool. But remember you have to. That's going to be a lot of money because you have to pay an entry fee for every single one of those people that's on the stage with you. So if you want 50 people on
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stage with you, just get up for a second. I had to buy tickets for all these people?
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Yes, you have to buy, you have to buy entry tickets for every single person on stage with you and your talent. So you'd have to buy like 50 tickets to Ms. Continental.
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That's shady. Okay.
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That's how they get you. How much is a ticket?
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Yeah, how much is a ticket?
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Ticket's like 75 bucks.
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Okay, that's 100. Let's, let's round it up to $100 with, with, with taxes and ticket master tax. So that's 100 times 50. What's that? Is that 50? Is that, what is that 5,000, Jacob? Yeah, that's 5,000 ticket. That's $5,000 on tickets alone. Okay, well we're not doing that. That's.
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That's exactly,
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that's out.
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That's.
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But I guess. But again. But you have all these like bars and promoters and people that sponsor girls. Maybe I can get maybe a Heart WeHo can sponsor me.
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Exactly. Monet is sponsored by Heart WeHo and a host of family and friends.
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A host of family and friends. I love it.
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A host of family and friends.
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Can I tell you something that also really gags me about Brooklyn And a testament to how self sufficient you are. Brooklyn does not travel with a fucking assistant. So. And again I think that I've just been. Because I've had Patty since I started like or now I don't even have Patty.
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On the road.
C
I have someone else. I have Ty with me. Ty, who did the hair. He did the hair on. We're here because that's what I need the most help in. Right? Like, to be honest, I'm really self sufficient outside of hair. Like, I pack my own bags. Cause I like the way I do it. I like to organize my own makeup. I'm not a girl that. Cause you know, these girls, their assistants pretty much do everything. They come, they bring their suitcases to the room, they unpack the suitcase, they line the makeup up. Like, I like doing all that stuff by myself. Cause I'm so, so anal about it. I just need someone for hair and being my contact, being the, the point person between me and the venue. Because I just get. So those two details are just not my strong suit. So that's why I really want to have an assistant on the road with me. But you do it all by yourself. I, I really admire that.
A
I mean, yeah, I, I just always have. I think it's. Well, you, You. You fuck with human hair. I don't fuck with human hair. So, like, yeah, if I, if I was wearing human hair all the time, I would have somebody coming and styling it for. I have the good old synthetic. You just take. You shake it and you brush it and you put it back in position. Like, I just mess with synthetic you.
C
But you were wearing this. I'll never forget it. It was this clip of you in this purple slinky dress and you had this red hair. And I remember I text you. I was like, girl. Because I think it was right after I discovered you have a system. I was like, how do you try? Like, I was like, girl, you be getting to the gig and you'd be selling that hair every time. You're like, what hair? Like the red one you like, girl, that's synthetic. I was like, no, it's not. I was like, brooklyn. She's like, monet that. Isn't that Brooklyn? No, it's not. It looks so good though.
A
Yeah. Like, I only. I don't fuck with hair. Like, I love hair and I love wigs and I think they're great and everything, but like, I'm not sitting there styling hair. Sorry. So, yeah, I just like, unless it's all of my hair on Canada's Drag Race is human. All of those wigs are human because I have a style there and she does it all. But if it's just me. Not happening.
C
I mix your. Your. When I judge Kirsten.
A
Yeah, she loves you. She's obsessed with you.
C
Really? Oh, I love that. Well, you're.
A
She literally asks about you all the time.
C
Word. Let me tell y' all the. The Brooklyn's multiverse over there at Canada's Drag Race. But number one, and again, no shade to American Drag Race. I've done Drag Race three times now. Right. If you count Celebrity Drag Race. I've been on a set of Drag Race four times now. This ain't going to do anything. And everyone there is really fine and really nice in Canada. The niceness and the pleasantry of being a part of that Drag Race ecosystem was palpable. Like, how. I don't know how to explain it. Like, it's just. It's just a different energy. And America is great, too, but Canada's just a different energy. And I was like, oh, my God, Brooklyn gets to work here, or however many weeks a year work. I love. I love to be around the crew. I got there that day, they had, like, a taco truck with, like, taco things, and there it was. It was everything.
A
Yeah. And we loved having you. Yeah, it's a really great working environment to have, and I'm really lucky that I get to do it, actually. Literally right before we started this zoom meeting, which found out we won another Canadian Screen Award for best hosts of a reality TV program. So that's like our fifth one in a row.
C
Congratulations, Work girl.
A
Yeah, we're very excited.
C
I told you what I am, what I really want you to make them do, and it would just make me. If my pussy quiver is having, like, you doing the live finale, I would die. And I would. I would want to come watch it.
A
I know. I would love to do that. I think it's just, like, a budget thing. I mean, it's so hard now with. In TV and stuff like that. There's no, like. Like, no budget for anything. But, yeah, I would love to do that, too. If they. If we could ever find the money to do it, I think it'd be
C
amazing just to see Brooklyn just come out there in some fucking crazy fucking outfit and be like, ah. I would just be watching it, just living my own fantasy, watching you do it. It would be everything.
A
You can come be my assistant for that.
C
I would, honestly, I absolutely would. I would be a horrible assistant. I don't know what I would do, but I would absolutely be there. Just so I can be in your gown as your Nina West. Living. Living gown. Just be a part of your look in some type of way. I would love that.
A
Exactly. We'll recreate her Tom of Finland. Look,
C
girl. Oh, my God. You know, I see. But the thing is that I see what she was trying to do. Like, my brain. I get what Nina west was going for, but it's just. Yeah. Oh, poor Queen. Poor queen. But. So. So you. You are watching the season.
A
I'm watching. I always just kind of watch the clips online because, like, the only. Like, Like. Because they always. You always get the best bits online. The things that everyone. Everyone talks about. So I. I don't ever watch, like, a full episode, but I. I watch all the runways on Instagram and stuff like that and, like, the. The best moments of Snatch Game and stuff like that. So, yeah, sort of.
C
Yeah. Yeah. I'm watching it because we reviewed on the thing. It actually is. It actually is really good. But like you said, honestly, the whole season is now on World of Wonder, Instagram and. And Paramount Instagram. You can see the lip sync. You can see the runways, even. Like, the best shady and funny moments that happen in the workroom are, like, they post those clips. So honestly, you're getting the best of the highlight reel on the fucking social media anyway, so. You're right. Who needs to watch the whole fucking episode anymore?
A
Yeah, I just watched the. The Best of.
C
Yeah. And now that you've hosted a season, would you. Do you ever think you would ever. What, did they ask you to host Pit Stop? Would you do that? Are you like. No, I host my own friend.
A
I would love to. No, I would love to host Pit Stop. I think that'd be so fun. Yeah, I'd be down.
C
Yeah, our Pit Stop was very fun.
A
Yeah, we had a good time.
C
I get people who post clips of it on Tick Tock too. Still to the zan. It always collects me the part when you spread your legs and they censor it. Like, I was like. And people like, I can't believe Brooklyn did that. I'm like, you think her dick was really hanging out, girl? No, it's a joke, y'.
A
All. That's what they think.
C
I have a question. I'll just pull a question. Would you ever. Are you. Would you be a sister wife? Would you ever date another queen?
A
Yeah. 11.
C
What?
A
Yeah, me and Vanjie dated.
C
I mean, but did y' all really date after the show?
A
Yeah, we dated for, like. We wrapped in, like, beginning of July, and I think we broke up in October. Oh.
B
Oh.
C
I thought it was strictly a showmance. I don't realize it went outside of the show.
A
Yeah, we dated for several months outside the show.
C
Work. Oh, my. Okay. I love. I love Vanessa Vanj material. She is my I. Anytime I see Vanessa's good time, dating Vanessa seems like it will be an experience. Wild. It was.
A
It is. I mean, we're.
C
We're just.
A
We're two very different people. I mean, me and you are kind of more a kid. We're on the same, like, yeah, calm, chill wavelength. And Vanjie is, like, on her own wavelength with energy wise, and I love that about her.
C
But, yeah, I just didn't.
A
We just didn't match in energy, and it just didn't really work out. But it's fine. We're great friends now.
C
Yeah. Yeah. I could. I could not date someone who is high energy and wanted to go out. I need to date a homebody. I have no interest and being out in the club, and I literally don't. I. Brooklyn and I, we often send each other, like, Pisces because we're both Pisces and we send it to the Pisces means. And that should be so accurate. Like, I just want to stay home and just chill, and I do. Going out is not my thing now. Again, that's not saying I never want to, like, once in the blue, pop out and, like, you know. But my equilibrium is staying home and chilling, especially since you were traveling. I just want to be home.
A
No, I'm the same. This is my. This is my fucking club right here. This is my idea of a club right there. That's it.
C
That looks so chic.
A
The green isn't that gorgeous? You know who helped help me, like, get my place together? Shea Coulee is an excellent interior designer, and she, like, helped me, like, get it all together. Yeah, she came over and, like, gave me advice on everything, and it was amazing
C
work. Yeah, it looks so chic and so adult and so sexy. You better work. Are you in the market for a partner or you're, like, more happy being alone?
A
I mean, I'm always open, but, like, I just. I just can't imagine. I don't know. I just can't imagine it, you know?
B
Like.
A
Like, I'm so used to being alone and doing my own thing at my own time, in my own space, and I just can't imagine, like, having to, like, factor somebody else into that equation.
C
Yeah, I feel that, you know, before Andy, I had a serious one. I would say one major serious relationship, and then, like, two other ones that were not that serious. Before Andy, there was one person for a long time, and then I had two other people for, like, three months, which I don't really count as serious relationships, but being in this relationship has definitely, like, challenged a lot of that because, like, the same. I was like, I don't. I move when I want to, I go when I want to and do all the things. And now I'm in this thing where I have to, like, kind of communicate those things, you know what I mean? Out of respect for the other person. And, you know, I'm not going to lie. It is. It is. Was still is an adjustment that you always had to do.
A
And.
C
Yeah, that's. I completely understand. I completely understand.
A
Yeah. Like fucking like, what if I have to fart? I love to fart. I know somebody else is there and I can't fart. What am I supposed to do?
C
Yeah. But. But you know what? I do know what I see often, and I'm like, oh, my God, this looks like the fantasy now. Not even celebrity couples with money, just like, people, you know, who aren't. Aren't famous and, you know, whatever they are now, these relationships where they get together and they live in the same apartment building, but different apartments. They're married and living in different apartments, or if they have enough money, they're married and have separate houses and they have, you know, they have stuff at each other's homes. So, like, Monday through Friday, Friday we sleep together at his house, but then we separate and we have our own place on the weekend. And sometimes I'm like, that sounds fabulous.
A
That really does. That sounds amazing. I love. I love the idea of that. That's. That would be very up my alley. And I mean, if it's the right person, it'll happen. And it's like, right time and everything, it'll happen. But like, yeah, I'm not. I'm definitely not, like, looking for it.
C
Yeah.
A
At this point in my life, I'm kind of comfortable with the fact that I could pot quite possibly just be alone forever.
C
Well, you know, another, like Shirley Ralph, you know, who is a major star, her and her husband, they've been married for what, 40 something years. They live apart for all of that time because she lived in LA and he was a politician in D.C. and they had a house together in Pennsylvania. So what she would do is, like, they would only see each other like, every two weeks. And I was like, that is also, again, an arrangement that sounds fierce to me because the more time I'm away from my partner, the more time I miss him. Right. And I think that's still creates that like, oh, my God, I miss you. And that longing. I think that's really important to have a relationship so to hear someone.
A
Exactly.
C
And they raise kids like that. It's not like they. It's just them. They raised kids in that thing and it worked for them. But I think we're all just so caught up in the traditionality of getting together and moving in together. And like, we're all so caught up in that because that's how we've been indoctrinated with the Bible and man and wife and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, storybook, fairy tale shit. It's like, I think it's time to reimagine what relationships look like, what they can look like, and what they should be fucking. Like. Girl.
A
Ugh. Anyway, totally, absolutely, I. I completely agree. Like, I. The more. The older I get, the more open I am to different kinds of relationships and different ways that that could look. I mean, I was raised very Christian and very strict. Like one way of doing things, but yeah. And like that stayed with me for a long time. But the older I get.
C
Yeah.
A
The more open minded I become to things.
C
What about poly? Are you, Are you a poly girly?
A
Oh, I don't know. In. In, like, I want to say that I would be, but I just don't know if I actually could.
C
Right, right.
A
You know, like, I want to be
C
like, yeah, be cool.
A
Totally. Like when it gets out to it. I'm also not a very sexual person. Like, I. I just like, I'm one of those people I can have sex like once every two weeks and I'm like, I'm good. Like, I was not like super sexually charged.
C
Yeah. Any girl again this. So every time Brooke and I talk about this stuff, I'm like, maybe Brooke and I should get married. But I am also the same way too. But I think it's because I like got rid of a lot of that sexual stuff like in like my 20s, you know, I talk about this on the podcast also a lot too. Like, I started fucking since I was like 12 years old, which is what they were. Other 12 year olds, they weren't old grown people, y'. All, they were people my age. And then so, like throughout, like, I mean, so I feel like I've done all the things I want to do. So at this point in my life, I am happy to have sex like once every two weeks. And I'm like, whoa, I did it. That was good. You know what I mean? And I'm like, I'm good for like the next two weeks. You know what I mean?
A
The exact same. I'm good. I'm like, just get it out of me. And then I'm like, okay. And then also don't. And then also don't touch me. Like, go away.
C
Okay, you heard it here first. Brooklyn and I, we're gonna get married. We're gonna be.
A
We're the same person.
C
The Pisces union you guys have been waiting for.
A
We're gonna get a place in Palm Springs, and we're gonna have a little compound.
C
Okay? See, our first fight. I don't like Palm Springs. You like Palm Springs, bitch.
A
You're the one who was like, hey, we should get a place in Palm Springs like a bunch of us. Yes, you did.
C
Well, I think that's changed. I don't. I don't love Palm Springs. The only thing I like about Palm Springs is Bianca's house. I'm like, oh, that's great.
A
Yeah, that's true. I just feel like that's where we're supposed to go as older gay men.
C
I know. I know. Definitely not. No. Like, Fire Island. Shit.
A
Oh, no.
C
Or Beat Out. Although beat out is nice. It gets too cold, though. I don't want the cold.
A
Yeah. And I like. I like Fire Island.
B
Like, I.
A
Well, I like Cherry Grove. Like, I like the lesbian side of Fire Island.
C
Huh? Yeah.
A
We're not doing the Pines.
C
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Have you. Broughton.
B
Do you do.
C
Do you do drugs? Do you. Do you dabble in any type of. You don't.
A
I've been sober for almost a year and a half. A year and a half now. Yeah. Like, before. Like, I did. Like, I. I very occasionally do weed, but I. Oh, it's like one of those things I just do to sleep usually. Yeah. But I've done, like, before that, I did coke. I never. I did, like, ecstasy once or twice. I did shrooms a couple times, but I was never, like, a big druggie.
C
You're just so type. And you're so always together. I kind of imagine you're doing something like ecstasy. Like, I just cannot imagine you because you're. I hate it. Okay, well, that makes sense.
A
I hate it. I was like, can this be over, please?
C
Yeah. You're so poised. I. I'm sure y' all who have met Brooke Lynn Hytes, and you see on the show, like, Brooke Lynn is always so poised. Brooklyn is always. Everything is. You're just so. I just can't imagine you being on Molly or Ecstasy. That sounds crazy to me. I can't imagine that.
A
Yeah, I just. I. I didn't love it. I Was like, I want. I remember I wanted to be, like, outside by myself, like, still, like, even on drugs. I'm like, can I just be alone?
C
Okay. Another way we're the same. So I went to Mexico with. With. With some friends and my boyfriend, and then we're in Mexico, and they all want to go out one night. I was like, you know what? Y' all go out. I'm just gonna stay here. They're like, we're on vacation. I'm like, I know. I just want to kind of just be. We're on vacation. I kind of want to be by myself. And so we're at this fucking condo. I go to the. To the roof, and I get in this hot tub, and I. And I take Molly, and I'm just in the hot tub by myself. I was like, they came back there, like, everything. I'm like, yeah. I just wanted to just be by myself. And people will be like, what's wrong with you?
A
The last time I did. The last time I did it, I was. We. We rented a house in, like, Pensacola or somewhere in Florida, and we all drove down there, and. And it was a bunch of people from Play Dance Bar in Nashville. Like, a bunch of the bartenders and everything. And they were all loud and just, like, yelling and just, like, the worst. And we were right on the beach, and my Molly hit, and I was like, I need to get the fuck out of here. And I went for a walk on the beach, and there was, like, a full moon, and the wind was blowing.
C
Yes, bitch.
A
And it was everything.
C
Yes.
A
And, like, I was like, okay, this is cute. This I can do. But the minute I got back in the house, I was like, I need to get away from this. These people. I'm also like. I also get really. Like, it's all about environment. Like, I was with these crazy party people, and we were in, like, this little neighborhood, and I'm like, somebody could call the cops on us, and then they could show up and find all these. All these drugs and booze here. And, like, that just made me really anxious because I'm like, I'm not trying to get arrested and stuff. So it's just like. Like, an environment thing. I get very anxious very easily about things.
C
Yeah, I got you. Oh, my God. This is Jacob. We're gonna call this the one about Brooklyn and Monet finding out they're each other's podcast. Perfect match. Well, that's good, because I can be. Well, you're. You're already. You're already an American citizen, so there's no benefit for you, but I can get some Canadian citizenship. And when everything goes down November, I'm moving into your renovated home.
A
Oh, my God. I don't even, like, what are we even supposed to do about that now? Like, I don't even like, want to like, like, what's, what's going to happen in November?
C
Girl, I don't know. I genuinely don't know. Like, they had like, at the beginning of the year, I was like, oh, people are going to realize, like, whatever, whatever, whatever. But the more and more, like, you know, it's going down in the Middle east and especially with this recent strike on Rafa and stuff like that, it just like, I understand the POV of people being frustrated with our current president as well. Right. I understand that. And I'm like. Because I am too. I'm like, what the fuck? This is inhumane. This is indecent. Like, we gotta like, this is the red line you talked about. Like, you know what I mean? But, like, I just kip about, think about this alternative orange dude literally saying that I'm going to seek a third term. I'm not leaving bring back concentration camp. Like, so I'm like, like, you know, that's what is on the other side, you know?
A
Yeah, I completely agree. Like, it's with everything that's happening in the Middle east right now. And. And this is the person we are, we want apparently to have back in office for a second term. And this is what's happening. And like, like, it just both, all. Both options are not great.
C
Yeah, they're true.
A
It's really. And it's just weird going to, like, it's just weird, like telling people to vote, but you're like, who, like vote, I guess, for this guy because he's less worse than this guy, but he's still pretty awful. Oh, I hate it.
C
I hate it too. I hate it too. And it's the world we're living in, girl. And also with everything like this, it feels for me like, so, so icky, you know, to still have to go on with the business that I have going on and promoting the things and posting the things when I get everything that's going on too, like, in the world. So it is this, like, weird space and like, stepping to promote yourself, but also raising awareness about what's going on. It was just so murky. It's so much. It's so much to do.
A
I know. It's gross.
C
Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of, I am going. I. I thought you were on the billing for it, but I think you were there too recently to not be on, but someone had, like, tagged you, wanted to post it. I was like, wait, Brooklyn's gonna be in Brazil, too? I thought you're gonna be in the big Brazil gig in July.
A
I am.
C
You are. Someone said that you weren't on it. Like, someone said, I'm so. Like a tweet. I'm so sad. Brooklyn not coming. Or maybe they're just doing a. Someone was confused. Okay, work. So we'll be there together then.
A
Yeah. It's gonna be a great show. It's like, me, you, Detox, Anitra, Alaska. Alaska. Valentina, I think, is doing it. Nymphia Wind is doing it. Oh, work.
C
I didn't see that.
A
Yeah. So I think it's gonna be great.
C
I've never, ever been to South America. I've never been to South America at all, so this is my first time going. I have no idea what to expect.
A
What?
C
Yeah.
A
Really?
C
Never?
A
That's insane. You're going to feel like Beyonce. They're. They're. They're. They're the best. They're, like, the craziest. Like, most excited fans, like, they'll, like, beat the walls for everybody. It's incredible.
C
I cannot wait. Because that's a country that drag queens are, like, honestly, everywhere except America. In Canada, in Brazil, in the uk, like, queens are looked at like this weird fucking thing. Queens are on mainstream television. Well, I mean, besides Drag Race, right? Like, in the uk, the girls do like, all, like, the game shows, the talk shows, they do all that stuff in Brazil. Drag queens are, like fucking regular recording artists. In Canada again, y' all have queens in programming in America. It's just always so fudgeing, annoying and weird.
A
Yeah, it's. America is very strange about it.
C
Yeah. But I'm excited to go there and feel like, like, the Beyonce. And that's. That's fair.
A
Yeah, it's fun. And the men are gorgeous.
C
No, I get to see Brazilian men just IRL just walking around. I can't wait.
A
That's amazing.
C
Yeah, I thought about maybe because I've never been to Rio, obviously, because our gig is in Z. PA I thought about, like, taking the days after the gig because I have, like, a week off maybe going to Rio and, like, in real. Because I just realized it's the winter there, so Sao Paulo's gonna be cold.
A
Is it actually gonna be cold, though? Or is it going to be, like, South America cold?
C
Yeah, I don't know. Someone just, like, it's winter, so. So it's probably similar to Australia then, where it's, like, winter, but it's still, like, low 70s.
A
I feel like it never gets, like, actually cold there.
C
Okay.
A
Work. Okay.
C
Good to know.
A
Yeah, but you should go to Rio if you have time off. Rio's incredible.
C
Yeah, I want to go there. I want to go to the beach and, like, you know, say I went to, you know, and go see the. The. The praying guy on the mountain.
A
Jesus.
C
Jesus. Yeah. I want to go see her and see how she doing. Well, y', all, this Brooklyn. Thank you so much for taking the time and coming to channel, but this was such a great podcast, such a good episode. We talked about a myriad of topics. Cats, we did wigs, assistants, politics, being in love. We talked about all of it. This is great.
A
Yeah, this was so much fun. I love getting to talk to you.
C
Always same girl, same, same, same. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And y', all, we have the legendary Miss Brooke Lynn Hytes on the pot again. Lucky us.
A
Love you.
C
Love you, babe.
Date: June 3, 2024
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob the Drag Queen (Bob absent in this episode)
Special Guest: Brooke Lynn Hytes
In this lively episode of Sibling Rivalry, Monét X Change is joined by drag superstar Brooke Lynn Hytes for an in-depth, hilarious, and heartfelt conversation. The duo explores topics ranging from drag race fashion and life as cat parents to the challenges and joys of adulthood, love, self-sufficiency, ambition, their shared Pisces energy, and the realities of the 2024 political climate. Notably, they jokingly contemplate being each other's perfect match, showcasing their unmistakable chemistry and mutual fondness.
Housing priorities:
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On solo traveling:
On relationships:
On American politics:
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The conversation is warm, witty, deeply honest, and brimming with both personal vulnerability and signature drag humor. The chemistry between Monét and Brooke (without Bob’s presence this episode) is front and center as they alternate between joking about marriage and earnestly discussing living authentically and adapting as queer adults in a complicated world.
If you love drag, sassy banter, real talk about creativity, relationships, and the daily grind post-Drag Race, this episode is for you. Monét and Brooke serve up insightful commentary, plenty of laughs, and refreshing honesty—all filtered through a uniquely queer lens and loving friendship.
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