The One Where Monet Does Poppers

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast

Episode: The One Where Monet Does Poppers

Date: March 29, 2023
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

In this lively and unfiltered episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change, the drag superstar duo known for their razor-sharp wit and fierce friendship, dive into stories about nightlife, poppers (with Monét experimenting on air), queer parties, wild injuries, and all the hilarious, insightful, and deeply personal anecdotes that keep their fans devoted. The episode is rich with reflections on queer discovery, bodily autonomy, family dynamics, and messy, real-life moments — all wrapped up in their signature banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Death, Wills, and Posthumous Affairs

• The hosts amusingly discuss what will happen to their belongings after death.
• Monét admits she’s making a trust and doesn’t care much about posthumous possessions:
  Quote: “Bitch, I’m dead. Who cares what happens to it?” (02:08)
• Bob jokes about “earning” some of Monét’s things through their friendship, leading to playful threats:
  Quote (Bob): “What you earned is ass whooping. And I should give it to you right now.” (02:35)

Timestamp: 00:50–04:00

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2. Role Play, Relationships & Bar Fantasies

• Both hosts delve into relationship role-play kinks, such as pretending to meet as strangers in a bar.
• Bob confesses partner Jacob isn’t into role-playing, while Monét is open to it.
• They explore TikTok “strangers at the bar” scenarios and how such playfulness can spice up long-term relationships.
• Discuss the importance of mutual enthusiasm and setting expectations for these flirtatious games.

Timestamp: 04:16–07:00

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3. Caffeine, Red Bull, and Staying Awake

• Debates over the efficacy of caffeine—both don’t feel stimulated by Red Bull or other energy drinks.
• Bob shares memories of using various supplements like “Stackers” and “Lipo Black” for energy and recounts feeling jittery.
• The hosts recall the fleeting fame of products like Five Hour Energy and energy drink fads.

Timestamp: 07:10–09:31

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4. Monét Tries Poppers (On-Air Demo)

• Episode highlight: Monét talks about her first time using poppers (amyl nitrite), a club drug popular in queer scenes, and tries to “recreate” the experience live for Bob (using water).
• They discuss what poppers feel like (“very lightheaded, my head feels hot”) and their place in queer nightlife.
• Contrasts around sobriety and poppers in the LGBTQ+ recovery community.
• “Did you ever accidentally almost drink poppers thinking it was Five Hour Energy?”—Bob admits it almost happened onstage.
  Quote (Bob): “I almost just drank a full bottle of poppers, gag. I've never...” (09:51)

Timestamp: 09:31–14:39

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5. Childhood, Accidents, and Trauma Responses

• Bob and Monét swap stories about fainting, getting knocked unconscious, and pulling risky childhood stunts.
• Bob tells of cycling accidents:
  Quote (Bob): “The interesting thing about getting knocked out is you don’t actually feel the pain. It’s your body’s defense mechanism.” (15:02)
• Discussion of shock and how children often react to pain only when prompted by adults or visible blood.

Timestamp: 14:43–17:26

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6. Fears of Disability and Mortality

• Monét shares deep fears of being incapacitated by random accidents (falling objects, becoming paralyzed) — and how money can’t fix everything.
• Bob points out how society’s fear of disability reflects ableist perspectives:
  Quote: “There’s something kind of fucked up about someone’s fear being that they’ll end up living like someone else.” (22:05)

Timestamp: 21:04–23:47

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7. Hair Removal Mishaps and Colorism

• Monét describes getting chemical burns while using Nair (a hair removal cream) on her balls before a laser appointment, leading to jokes about “light-skinned balls.”
• They examine colorism and British/American spelling differences (colour vs. color).
• Bob’s ongoing fascination (and confusion) with the color of Monét’s palms and how this shows up in Black communities.

Timestamp: 25:45–30:00

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8. Respecting Elders and Family Dynamics

• The duo debates if respect should be given to elders by default.
• Bob makes it clear: respect isn’t owed due to age alone, especially in cases of familial trauma or toxicity.
• Fond and not-so-fond memories of parents and grandparents are discussed.

Timestamp: 30:00–33:43

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9. Fights, Broken Bones, and Sibling Betrayal

• Childhood accidents: Monét recounts how her brother accidentally cut her finger (later needed stitches) during a juice-making mishap, and how she never snitched.
• Discussion of “snitch culture” — referencing Lil Kim’s prison sentence and the notion of loyalty (or its dangers) in Black (and Italian) communities.
  Quote (Bob): “Can we talk about the fact that someone was just out walking around while Lil Kim was just in fucking prison?... What are we applauding?” (40:02)

Timestamp: 36:01–41:19

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10. Queer Discovery & Finding Community (Audience Advisory Segment)

• A 19-year-old listener asks for practical advice on exploring queerness and finding community.
• Monét’s advice: Leverage both personal interest groups (sports, board games) and online resources to meet other queer folks organically. “Find an interest outside of your queerness... There’s a queer league in everything.”
• Bob’s advice: Emphasizes the value of nightlife and J-setting (Majorette-style dancing) in his own queer coming-of-age story. “The New York nightlife scene turned me out.”

Timestamp: 52:37–55:59

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11. Drag Histories, Ageing, and Legendary Nights

• Reminiscences about their own drag beginnings:
  • Monét: 11 years ago (2012)
  • Bob: 14 years ago (2009)
• Wild club stories (splits gone wrong, needing crutches, dancing through injury)
• “Look Queen” performance memories and how age reframes perceptions of one’s mentors (i.e., Bob now being older than Bianca Del Rio was when he met her).

Timestamp: 55:59–62:49

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bob (on poppers): “I almost just drank a full bottle of poppers, gag.” (09:51)
• Monét (on fisting): “Apparently I have good hands for fisting.” (46:19)
• Bob (on family respect): “You obviously don’t have any fucked up old family members, but baby... I don’t fuck with you. I don’t care how old you are.” (31:02)
• Monét (to listener): “You already sound like you have a pretty strong sense of what you’d like in your queerness.” (52:37)
• Bob (on accident shock): “The interesting thing about getting knocked out is you don’t actually feel the pain. It’s your body’s defense mechanism.” (15:02)
• Bob (on snitching): “Can we talk about the fact that someone was just out in the world walking around while Lil Kim was just in fucking prison, y’all. What are we applauding?” (40:02)
• On Drag Race legacy: “A lot of these young people... literally in elementary school [when I was on the show].” (20:11)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Time | Topic | |-------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 00:50–04:00 | Death, wills, and friendship “inheritance” | | 04:16–07:00 | Relationship role play and bar pick-up games | | 07:10–09:31 | Energy drinks and supplement stories | | 09:31–14:39 | Monét tries “poppers” on air, club anecdotes | | 14:43–17:26 | Childhood accidents, pain, and trauma response | | 21:04–23:47 | Disability fears and mortality | | 25:45–30:00 | Nair accidents, colorism & hair | | 30:00–33:43 | Respecting elders: is it owed? | | 36:01–41:19 | Sibling betrayals, stitches, and “snitch” culture | | 52:37–55:59 | Advisory: young listener on queer exploration | | 55:59–62:49 | Drag history, ageing, and legendary nightlife |

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a characteristically wild ride through humor, vulnerability, and explicit recounting of queer experiences, sexual experimentation, and nightlife history—peppered with moments of genuine introspection and community connection.

Fans will appreciate the chemistry, wisdom, and unscripted hilarity that Bob and Monét bring, especially as they field honest questions from listeners and bare some of their own most unforgettable (or embarrassing) memories.

Whether you’re here for sex advice, poppers 101, or lessons on being a supportive friend—there’s gold in every tangent.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[C]

my name is Bob the Drag Queen

[D]

and I'm Money Exchange and this is simply rivalry. Yes, this is Mona X Change here and we are doing a pocket a handkerchief headed negro.

[C]

I called you that and I'mma keep calling you that. You a handkerchief headed me like he's a representative.

[D]

I forget what state every he he's popping off in Evan.

[C]

I believe in Evan now. I just watched Bernie Sanders and some guy just arguing. Bernie Sanders was moderating or I don't know what the fuck it was. These two guys were arguing about their salaries. I was like, is this Real Housewives? What is this?

[D]

Bob, we are recording a podcast. I think we started. We started.

[C]

I posted this thing that said attention to every media outlet. When I die, these are the only pictures you're allowed to use. And I posted some pictures and then Bianca said, how about this one?

[D]

You know they would.

[C]

I do not. You know what? Honestly out my money and my things all go to the state. Just let them go to auction.

[D]

If I don't. I don't care what I'm. I'm dead.

[C]

I'll be dead.

[D]

I don't care what my shit gets.

[C]

I'll be dead. I'll be dead. For your, your mom and your brother to.

[D]

Let's make one thing clear.

[C]

I'll be dead.

[D]

Let me, let's, let's make one thing clear. If you die, if I hear you die, I am bum rushing this house. I am. I'm coming here. I'm taking what I want first. I'm taking what the. I want that Actually not what I want. What I've earned being your friend.

[C]

What you earned is ass whooping. And I should give it to you right now. I should pay. I should pay up right now.

[D]

You sound like Eric Mays.

[C]

Are you a handkerchief headed drag queen?

[D]

Yeah, when I die. I mean, I have a will and I'm working on a trust right now. I'm just like. But I really was talking to our. We share the same cpa. And I was like, bitch, I'm dead. Like, I. Who cares what happens to it?

[C]

Well, I do. And I really do care. But I also don't think I want to die anytime soon. So I'm just kind of like slightly dragging my feet.

[D]

People who die soon never think they're going to die soon.

[C]

Okay, what do you want me to do with that information?

[D]

Work on it.

[C]

Work on these nuts.

[D]

No, thank you.

[C]

And people who think they're not gonna

[D]

work on my nuts in a monogamous relationship. I'm not gonna work on your nuts.

[C]

You know, the funny thing is, people who think they're not gonna work on my nuts always end up working on my nuts.

[D]

That sound like a positive thing. I don't think that's good. I mean, talking about these people, are they bullies doing it? Do they feel pressure? How does it happen?

[C]

I've never bullied anyone into having any amount of sex with me. Every sexual interaction I've had has been completely consensual.

[D]

In New York. I have been bullied into doing something, sex with someone, but in like a fun way. Please explain like in a role play way, not like for real.

[C]

Again, I am literally all ears.

[D]

I'm not gonna tell you the exact situation.

[C]

Okay, well, you brought it up on that. Okay, you act like I dragged this out of you, then let's move on.

[D]

All ears. Let's move on. No, I want to move on.

[C]

I want to move on. I don't want to hear it. I'm ears. I'm no ears now. I'm zero ears. Anything else?

[D]

It was, it was role playing with some guy and it was like a. A very like, sub dom situation. And I was a sub in that instance. And I was bull into seconds and big. And you know what? It was great. I mean, for the person.

[C]

I've role played and had a lot of fun with it and really enjoyed myself. And in the role playing, what, what

[D]

was your most fun you had?

[C]

Role playing situation, Maybe like go go dancer. You pretend like you're a go go dancer and then, oh, she gets wild.

[B]

Is that.

[C]

That Wild. I mean, I just can't because you're

[D]

so ridiculous over the top. I just. Okay. Were you the Go Go dancer? Was the person the Go Go dancer?

[C]

I was not the Go Go dancer.

[D]

No, they were the Go Go dancer. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So you were, like, met, and we

[C]

were like, all right, now let's hook up.

[D]

I've seen this on Tik Tok and I. It sounds ug.

[C]

To clarify, you met while they were out Go Go dancing. No, no Go. They were not a Go Go dance. They were not a Go Go dance. In real life, they were pretending I'm your private dancer. Yeah, it was hot. Thumbs up for money.

[D]

So I. What I. What I've heard, I've seen couples doing this. Maybe it's a trend on TikTok. I don't know. But if you've been together for a while, whatever while it's to you, and you want to, like, you know, if you did not meet in a. In a way, like at a bar. Because a lot of people meet online now on Twitter or whatever it is. Like you as a couple, you, like, go to a bar. Like, they say they both go to Mickey's and they go there together, but they don't. Or they don't go together. And they're like. They plan, like, they set up like a date and the one tries to pick up the other one and see and like, have like a fun date that way. So let's say. Cause you and. You and Jacob met online and would that be something interesting that you would do? Like you would both go to a bar or to restaurant.

[C]

Jacob doesn't strike me as someone who'd ever want to do role playing. Jacob struggling is one who just wouldn't be interested. So I would never mention that situation.

[D]

Well, he just said it's silly. So I think your assessment is correct.

[C]

Yeah, but I would do it with someone if someone wanted to.

[D]

That sounds so fun.

[C]

I mean, yeah. I mean, what if you and Andy role played and he was like, not interested. Can you leave me alone, bitch?

[D]

I'm like, motherfucker, you lucky, honey.

[C]

And then when you get home, do you act like it never happened? And he's like, hey, baby.

[D]

No, I think the goal is, I'm

[C]

asking you go out Andy. Andy acts like he was not. Andy turns you down, and then you get home and he's like, hey, baby. Do you go to kiss him?

[D]

No.

[C]

What if he's trying to do a long. He's trying to do like a. Where like he wants to on the Fifth time, he finally gives in.

[D]

Fifth time, bitch. After the first time, I'm not coming back.

[C]

So it would have been a right fantasy moment. I'm telling you.

[D]

But.

[C]

But for.

[D]

Okay, fantasy involves both things, right?

[B]

We're both.

[D]

We're both playing this. Yes. And ing together.

[C]

You can divulge. What if he's like, up front, he's like, my fantasy that I turn you down five times in a row over the course of three months?

[D]

Well, that's different, because we're both going in on this information. But if we're like, here, we're going to do this thing when I pick you up tonight at the bar and then be like, no. And I have no information.

[C]

He just turns around, takes his drink, and just walks away. He's like, put my hands up to playing my song and drink his.

[D]

I'm about to say, pick up his Coke.

[C]

It's a Red Bull. We drink Red Bulls at the bar.

[D]

You drink a lot of Red Bull.

[C]

I do drink a lot of Red Bull.

[D]

And people say. I mean, I. I think Red Bull is one of the biggest. I know it has caffeine. I know. I know what it says on ingredients. But I have had several Red Bulls, and I never feel like I don't feel like that. But I also don't drink coffee. I don't know. But you think if I don't drink coffee, I'll be even more sensitive to caffeine.

[C]

I don't get a boost from Red Bull either. I just like the ritual of having a Red Bull at the bar. Everyone's drinking. I just have a Red Bull. Do you ever drink and not get drunk or even buzz? You ever drink? You're like, I don't have buzz. I just wanted to drink.

[D]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

Yeah, Same thing.

[D]

But I mean, I. But to get. And like, let's say. Cause, you know, sometimes we do gigs and you're like, you are tired of the club. You're like, bitch, I need to wake up. So I'll like, chug like, three Red Bulls. And I'd be sitting there like nothing happened.

[C]

I've never drank Red Bull for the purpose of staying awake. If I'm tired of the club, I just. I get adrenaline from performing, and once it's showtime, I usually shape up pretty well. And I. I'll be probably sometimes tired between shows. Like when I. Sometimes when I do comedy clubs, I'll do two shows in a row. And I did three shows at one of these clubs one time.

[D]

I was like. I was spent.

[C]

Do you remember the Time when you fell in love. Do you remember the time when we first met?

[D]

Girl, you don't think this happened to me? I believe that was Kelly Clarkson. Do you remember the. When Five Hour Energies were, like, the thing. I remember when I was in high school, people will go to the corner store all the time and buy, like, five Hour Energies and, like, take them, like, to. To whatever they were doing, like, five. Because. Because it was also just, like, a popular craze. Everyone's five Hour Energy.

[C]

I was certainly not in high school, but I do remember when Stacker first hit the scene.

[D]

I didn't. I didn't even heard of that.

[C]

Stacker is a. Is like, one of. It's like, one of the most popular fat burners. And he used to have a Fedra in it. And a Fedra was when it was, like, wild. And I used to take stackers. When I first got to New York City, I would take stackers and.

[D]

To lose weight.

[C]

No, it's like, to give you energy.

[E]

Oh.

[C]

Like, I would take stackers for energy, and I was like. I mean, I would take them to lose weight, too, but I was also, like, working out, and I would, like. I would take a stacker and, like, walk to work. Or I remember having one called Lipo 6 or Lipo Black. They're these crazy ones. And I was, like, jittering at work. I was like. I was like a crackhead. I was like, I think. I think I've overdone it. And I also. Five Hour Energy looks like poppers.

[D]

It looks like poppers.

[C]

And I once accidentally almost drank poppers on stage because I thought someone handed me a five Hour Energy and I went to go drink it, and everyone in the room started screaming. No, literally. They were like, bob, what are you. And I was like. And then I look. And I was like a rush.

[D]

And you know, Bob. Y' all know Bob's a little high. He did a little high pit scream.

[C]

I don't remember what I did. I remember just being like, oh, my God. I almost just drank a bottle, a

[D]

full bottle of Poppers gag. I've never. I think we may have talked. Someone commented on the Patreon. They was like Monet and Baba bald and the beautiful wing. They are just retelling stories. Yeah, bitch. It's our podcast. We don't remember everything we said. I don't remember if I said it before, but I've never been into poppers. Like, I try. The first time I ever tried Poppers was after season 10.

[C]

Does bald and beautiful always tell the Same stories over again.

[D]

Apparently, they tell you, you don't listen.

[C]

You have poppers, Jacob? Yeah, I don't know. Jacob had poppers.

[D]

Jacob be taking the poppers to take that, dude.

[C]

I don't know. Jacob had poppers.

[D]

The first time I did poppers, I was at the season 10, and Mo Hart was in town, and she was staying at Desiree Bottom's house. I went over to Desiree Bottom's place, and we're all hanging out, and someone had poppers. Maybe Mark, I don't remember who pulled out poppers. And I was like, oh, my God.

[C]

I didn't know you had poppers in the house. I'm not judging by. There's nothing wrong with having poppers.

[D]

So then one of them pulled it out, and they were like, girl, you want to try it? I was like, I've never done poppers. Everyone was like, what?

[C]

You've never done poppers?

[D]

I was like, no, I've just never done it. They're like, you want to try them out? I was like, charlotte, what does it do? They're like, it gets you lightheaded for, like, 10 seconds. I was like, that's it.

[C]

And it makes your butthole loose, apparently. And I know guys who take poppers while they're sucking dick, too. I know a lot of people who, like, take poppers while they're sucking dick.

[D]

Cause I think what it really does just makes you lightheaded, right? Is VHS cleaner.

[C]

I think it relaxes your body and it makes you lightheaded.

[D]

Okay, so I just Unroll, Unroll.

[C]

You plug one nostril.

[D]

That's why this is one of the things. Oh, yeah. So then. So then they were telling me, you plug one nostril. Oh, my God. I'm wasting it. I'm wasting the juice.

[C]

I don't think it works like that. It's not evaporating that quickly.

[D]

It is fragrant.

[C]

It is very fragrant.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

And then. So I did it, and I was like, I don't remember. So long. I don't remember. Okay, so I plug one nostril.

[C]

Wait, hold on.

[D]

Oh, both nostrils. Okay. I did one that time.

[C]

And just for anyone, for everyone wondering, it's literally just a cup. A bottle of water. That Monet. It's just a bottle of water. Monet has. It's just water.

[D]

And.

[C]

And we're blurring it out.

[D]

So go ahead.

[C]

It's just Monet's just smelling water.

[D]

Wait, hold on.

[C]

I can't.

[D]

This is too much. You don't care if I do. You have to do it.

[C]

I'm absolutely not doing that. Okay.

[D]

So. So I. I've talked to this about ats. I was saying it is controversial. Some sort of people are like, it's mood altering, so you can't do it. Some people like, it's not mood altering. It's like a very big. It's up for.

[C]

Well, I don't think. I don't know that it's controversial as much as it is. Like, people decide on their own. And no one's really, like, doubt, like, shaming anyone or saying, you're not sober because of this, that and the other. I don't do them. And that's not my sobriety. It doesn't work with my sobriety. But I know people who are, like, smoking weed and going to fucking AA and shit.

[D]

Are they sober? All right. Okay, okay, okay.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

So what if something happens? What are you going to do?

[C]

I think if something. I think if something happens to you, then we will take you to the hospital. If you really need me to take you to the hospital, I would, but we're driving your car.

[D]

No, we're taking your car. We're taking the Venta.

[C]

Cuz if you're all juiced up and your hoes all loose, I don't want you shitting all over my car. Let's take a break. Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax.

[D]

And let go of whatever you're carrying today.

[A]

Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh. They're so fast.

[D]

And breathe.

[A]

Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste.

[D]

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[C]

1-800-contacts.

[D]

And we're back, Bob. All right, I'm gonna do it. I've gotten the strength and the willpower. I'm gonna do it.

[C]

I'm proud of you. It's just water. Big woof. Now the other one. Oh, my God. No, I don't feel anything. You don't feel anything?

[D]

I feel a little lightheaded, maybe a little bit. Okay, I feel it now. Whoa.

[F]

Oh.

[C]

Can you describe what it's like to smell that water? Oh, my God.

[D]

Okay, you're being.

[C]

You're feeling that.

[D]

No, it is very lightheaded.

[C]

Tell me about your experience, Ma. Oh, my God.

[D]

Okay, I'm getting very warm. My head feels very hot, and it looks Like I would want to do again, though. I feel. What if.

[C]

I feel like maybe if you try it in a sexual context, you'll like

[D]

it, but I feel like. This is what I feel like. This is the sensation. I've never passed out before in my mind. This is what the sensation is before.

[C]

You've never fainted?

[D]

Never. Not once.

[C]

That's wild.

[D]

Is that wild? Have you ever fainted?

[C]

Several times.

[D]

I fainted when I painted on the train.

[C]

I painted on the train, yeah. I've also been knocked unconscious, too.

[D]

By who?

[C]

I just. I, like, hit my face on stuff. I hit my face on the ground. I hit my face on a dumpster one time.

[D]

But knocked unconscious mean, like, something hit you, then you.

[C]

Yeah, I flew off my bike and I hit my face on the ground, and then it knocked me unconscious. And then I was riding my bike both times the bike, and I couldn't hit the brakes hard enough or fast enough, and I slammed into a dumpster, and. And I was just like. And the interesting thing about getting knocked out is you don't actually feel the pain. It's your body's defense mechanism. So I felt no pain. I hit. I hit the thing.

[D]

And you had marks and stuff, though. Like, you hit the.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I chipped my tooth the first time.

[G]

That's my first.

[C]

The first time.

[D]

Oh, got it.

[C]

And then the second time, I just had kind of like maybe scrapes and a big knot on my head.

[D]

And how long after you pass or did you wake up?

[C]

I don't know, but I think it was, like, maybe, like less than a

[D]

minute, and no one was there. Well, people. Someone saw you and they, like, helped you. You weren't by yourself.

[C]

So basically, the first time I. The first time it happened, I was on the bike and I flew off and I hit. I hit my face and I. And I just kind of remember I tried. I waking up and being like, oh, my God. And then I tried to get up, and I fainted again. And then when I woke up again, there was this lady praying over me, and there was ambulance.

[D]

And I just remember little Bobby, like, can you stop that bullshit?

[C]

And there was an ambulance and a fire truck, and I was just, like, in the middle of the street in Phoenix State, Alabama. Like, whoa. And then I started crying. And then the second time, I was in, like, maybe, like, eighth. Maybe ninth grade, when I slammed into the. This is in Clayton county when I slammed into the dumpster. And then I hit the. All my friends saw me, and I hit the dumpster and then I Just remember, like, getting up and everyone was around me, like, are you okay?

[D]

Isn't that so interesting as a kid? Like, you didn't feel any pain. Like, you were like, okay, but with all. Like, you knew something happened and with all the drama around you, your instinct is like, I'm going to cry right now.

[C]

Well, I did. To be fair, when I chipped my tooth, I. When I woke up, I did start feeling pain. I.

[G]

You just.

[C]

When you get knocked out, you don't feel the impact. But I did. But I did stuff scrapes all down my leg and my mouth was, like, hurting. My face was, like, hurting. But maybe I was. Maybe I was in shock. Maybe I was responding to just, like, the shock of, like, everything happening around me being like, oh, my God, this is so wild.

[D]

Because, like, I've seen things even, like, with little kids in my family. Like, they're like, I don't know, they'll fall and they'll. And they'll scrape their knee or something like that. And they get up and they're fine to walk around. When they notice that there's blood and there's a cut, then they start to cry because their brain is like. They tell them that you need to cry because you're hurt.

[C]

You had a paper cut.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

They're really. Because you don't really feel it. Then you. And then you do.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[C]

This must be advisory. Should this be the one that's half advisory?

[D]

No, Bob, honestly, a half advisory would

[C]

be kind of fierce.

[F]

I think.

[C]

A half advisory. A half rivalry. Rivalry. Sibling rivalry. Wait, listen to me, guys. Sibling rivicery is honestly kind of that bitch.

[D]

No. Then how do you start the episode? Do you not watch? Do you watch the show, Tamar?

[C]

We do it half and half. We just go. You split the music in half. The screen is diagonally split. You play both intros at the same time with. And they're playing at the same time. This is kind of iconic.

[D]

I don't think so.

[C]

This is kind of iconic.

[D]

I'm not into this.

[C]

I think I just nailed the most iconic part. This is how we win our. Do you want us to win a GLAD Award or not?

[D]

Let me tell. Okay, let's talk real. Do you think we're going to win a GLAD award? Do you think Meghan McCain saw that video and was like, I'm voting for them?

[C]

Do I think we're going to win the glaad, Edward? I think we stand a good chance. I think our podcast is very popular. I think that a lot of people like, what we do here. I think that you and I both have name recognition. I've hosted the GLAAD Awards. So, like, that's gotta.

[D]

I've been asked to host them.

[C]

That's gotta be worth something. So.

[D]

And I will say, you know, I really underestimate how a lot of people do listen to our podcast. Like, we talked about this before. Like, of course people recognize from Drag Race, but around sometimes in LA and in the streets, walking around, people be

[C]

like, oh, my God.

[D]

Hi, Monet from Sibling Rivalry. Like, you know, like, the goal is not, oh, my God, drag Race. Like, there's.

[C]

The guy who delivered my food today was like, oh, my God, Bob. And I was like, oh, my God, don't tell me where I live. Oh, my God. I had a guy on a cruise ship recently say there was two guys together and. And one was like, oh, my God, Bob the Drag Queen, I love you.

[D]

On a cruise ship.

[C]

On a cruise. And I was like, thank you. And then his friend goes, I know you. And I was like, hey, girl, Sassy,

[D]

you already know what's coming.

[C]

And he was like, yeah, you were on Live with Terry Jordan. And I said, I was. Yes. And I was like this for your number. He goes, yeah, I know you. Cause you went Live with Terry.

[D]

Terry Jo.

[C]

And I was like, not you knowing me from Going Live With Terry Jo. That was. Wow. One time. One time, my delivery lady called me the guy from Tick Tock. Are you the guy from TikTok? So I think I've just. I think maybe a difference between you and I, that I have not been on Drag Races for seven years now. And a lot of people just kind of don't remember either. Don't remember that I was in Drag Race or.

[E]

Or.

[C]

Or they. A lot of these young people. Yeah, we're not watching because they were literally. Literally in elementary school.

[D]

I'm like a bird was racially ambiguous. I could. I don't know what she was.

[C]

I think she's white.

[D]

No. I think she's some type of Latinx.

[C]

Is she?

[D]

I think so.

[C]

I didn't know she was beautiful.

[D]

Oh, she was.

[C]

That's for sure.

[D]

Or I think they've been Indian. I don't remember.

[C]

And though my love is true Jacob's

[E]

gonna look it up.

[D]

What song is that?

[C]

Same. It's all the same song. I've been singing the same song all the time. You don't remember? I'm like a bird.

[D]

I remember. I don't remember all the other stuff.

[C]

She goes, no, my love is true. Portuguese. Portuguese. I think we should do half advisory.

[D]

No, wait, were we talking. We were talking about injuries. Oh, yes. So here's one of my biggest. One of my. Something that I'm very scared of and makes me realize. Not realize my mortality, but I am deathly afraid of being injured and being, and not. And not having control of my like not being able to. To control my moral functions anymore and, and can't even talk or anything. Like, I'm afraid I'm gonna be walking. Like you have people who. Especially New York City. Well, not especially New York City. People walk down to New York City all one and they get like, something falls out of building or like that. That happens more times than you think. I was watching this YouTube video about it and like on one hand you may not be hurt enough that you will be, you know, a quadriplegic, something for the rest of your life. But on the other hand, you could be. But these people. You end up winning a lot of money though, when used to like millions of dollars. But money is not everything.

[C]

Yeah, I was gonna say that was a.

[D]

Well, because.

[C]

Because that.

[D]

Cause that was the crux of the video. It was like people who got injured but got. But got. But got handsomely rewarded for it. Like something like that.

[C]

Well, you know, I think that looking. I don't know, I mean, everyone. Sometimes people probably just drag me for sounding like I'm trying to be too woke or something. But I think it's just that over the years I've started looking at things through a different than I used to. And I think that we have this like innate fear of ending up disabled, which is, I mean, for some people, that's just their reality and the way they were born. You know what I mean? So I think that I understand the fear of being like, I don't want something to fall on my head and my life to be changed, you know, forever in terms of my physical well being. But I guess in my head my first thoughts, like, there's something kind of fucked up about like someone's fear being that they'll end up living like someone else.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And obviously. And I also don't want that to happen to me yet. I don't want anything to follow me as well. But you know, the best you can do is kind of just like live your life. There's this Reddit group called Tires Are the Real Enemy. And it's just clips of tires flying out of nowhere, sometimes crushing people, breaking their legs, snapping their spines. Because you know, the thing about tires is they just roll like, if a tire comes off a car, it keeps

[D]

rolling until it loses momentum.

[C]

And if it's going downhill, it picks up momentum. And they can kill people.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

There are videos of people just sitting in their homes, and a tire just

[D]

flies into their living room and their home.

[C]

It goes through a window. So there live people just pumping gas. And then a tire. A tire out of nowhere just comes and just mows them down.

[D]

Well, you know, that's why. I mean, I ever been on, like, a really high building, like, I've been to. I've lived in New York City a long time. Friends that, like, have, like, apartments. Like, really high apartments, and I have, like, this. I. When I was younger, so I took, like, a penny or, like, a pen.

[C]

You did that?

[D]

I have before. I could have killed someone.

[C]

No one told you not to do that?

[D]

No.

[C]

No one was like, do not throw pennies out of windows.

[D]

I never had that experience.

[C]

That is, you probably did kill someone.

[D]

Oh, my God. Don't try to incriminate me, bitch.

[C]

You're the one who's throwing pennies out of windows.

[D]

If I did, I did it on the south side of the building, so it blew it back in.

[C]

The wind doesn't always blow south, Monet. Wind changes direction.

[D]

That day where I was at, bitch, don't try to.

[C]

No, there's someone. What. What. What street were you on and what time of day was it? What was the date?

[D]

I was on 342nd Street. The date was February 20th.

[C]

There is someone right now being like, oh, my God.

[D]

February 30th, 2002.

[C]

Listen, if. If you were in the late 90s, early 2000s, and you heard a Jamaican kid above you yell, watch out, Bello. I was talking to someone recently who. Who was like, I.

[D]

Who.

[C]

They would look at me. They were like. Just so you know, I also thought that Monet was Jamaican.

[D]

Of course. Bob, you keep on, Bob.

[C]

You had nothing to do with me.

[D]

It had nothing to do with me. I was Jamaican since the inception, since we became friends.

[C]

It was someone who thought you were Jamaican with. No. Completely unrelated to me. Monet, I'm people. First of all, I've never thought you were Jamaican. All I said was, one day we were at this show, and someone said, I want that one. And I said, which one? They said, the Jamaican one.

[D]

That's what they hear. So now people. They're associated with me is Jamaica. Like, that is their. When they hear me, they think in Jamaica, that is the association.

[C]

But the thing is that people. This is back when you said, you didn't have an accent. And people have. People other than me have acknowledged that you have some sort of a Caribbean accent. And it's not because of me. Other people have thought you were Jamaican. That had nothing to do with me. Literally nothing to do with me.

[D]

So I was narrowing my legs the other day and some got on my.

[C]

On the. On the 100th floor of the Empire State Building.

[D]

Cause I have. I have a laser hair mobile.

[F]

So.

[D]

Laser hair mobile. I did from my neck to like my. To like my crotch.

[C]

Coochie snurder.

[D]

Yeah, to my coochie. I did that, but I never did my legs. I just started doing my legs like a year ago. So I probably have like two more sessions where I don't have to do anymore. But anyway, I narrowed it because I'm going for a session. Long story short, but some got on my balls and I got chemical burns on my ball. I'm gonna tell you my. When I tell you my balls are white. Like, I have light skinned balls now.

[C]

Like the whole. The whole sack?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Your whole sack is white.

[D]

It's not white, it's light skinned.

[C]

Is it lighter than your boyfriend?

[D]

No.

[C]

So not white, is it Naomi Smalls?

[D]

Probably. Isn't that so wild?

[C]

You think Naomi Smalls is white in

[D]

the palm of your hands? No, no, no, no.

[C]

Naomi's not lighter than the palm of your hands.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Monet's hands are white. I am blown away every time I see Monet's palms. I am blown away by how white they.

[D]

Darker than black.

[C]

It is crazy to me, Bob. That is.

[D]

This is normal for black people.

[C]

It is. Your hands are like white. That is.

[D]

This is normal. This is normal.

[C]

Crazy.

[D]

That's normal for black people.

[C]

Me and my brother and my mom, our hands aren't like that.

[D]

How you know?

[C]

Because I grew up with them and I see their hands all the time.

[D]

All the black people I grew up with. This is how our hands look.

[C]

That is wild. Look how white your hands are.

[D]

Kamika has white, has white palms, just like me.

[C]

I'm not that white.

[D]

Yes, she does.

[C]

Because Tamika's dark skinned.

[D]

Kamika. No, Kameka and I are the same color. Kamika, like maybe a little lighter to me.

[C]

No, no, Kamika is not lighter than you. I think now you're acting crazy. Not call Kamika. What? Call Kamaka.

[D]

Don't you have a number? Call Kamika. She said, she said. She said she hit you up. No, that was Arcia. So I see. It was like. She was like. She's like you know. You know, Bob and I thought we were building a friendship, Kevin. And he really just played in my face. I was like, what happened? He's like, well, he told me he was going to be in New York for a little bit, and he told me to hit him up. I hit him up.

[C]

Kevin Arcia did not hit me up. I said, happy New Year, Arcia. And then on January 24th, she sent me something. Arcia did not hit me up when I was in New York City.

[D]

Well, that's what she said.

[C]

Do you see anything from Arcia here when I was in New York City. Answer the question so Arcia can hear the answer.

[D]

Well, Tuesday, she did say something. I don't know what it is, though.

[C]

January 24th, Monet, bitch. It is March 9th. This is from a long time ago.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

Anyway, let me call Kamika and ask her if she's lighter than you. Yes.

[D]

Oh, I have a picture of us at the SZA concert.

[C]

Scissors. What did I see? Oh, she lives in Florida now, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Am I allowed to say Kameka, one of those folks, like, don't say the Sedar 11?

[D]

She probably would not like that.

[C]

Kameka, you're on the podcast. I have a quick question for you.

[B]

Hi.

[C]

Will you sleep?

[F]

No.

[C]

Kimmy, come here. With Monet. Are. Are you more. Are you lighter than Monet or are you darker than Monet?

[F]

I think we're about the same complexion, almost.

[C]

But if someone was darker, who would it be, you or her?

[F]

I'll tell you in two seconds.

[D]

We're the same color.

[C]

Let me see this picture. I need ocula proof, ocular proof. Oh, come on. I'm gonna get this picture. You are so pretty, Kameka. You're so pretty. I just love looking at you.

[F]

Thank you. I think we're the same complexion.

[C]

Yeah, I'm getting y'. All.

[D]

How are the palms of your hands? Bob thinks the palms of my hands are so white. Where the.

[C]

That's normal. The palms of my hands are, like, white. White.

[F]

Let me tell you a story. If you got time, we got time. Kevin used to. We used to walk to school together, and Kevin used to come with his hands all moist all the time. So I'm really not too sure what happened. Kevin, you remember that?

[C]

Yes.

[D]

I used to. I used to lotion my body,

[F]

and I used to, like, you know, like, hug him and say hello, whatever, and his hands would, like, slip out of my hands. I don't know what lotion he was using, but now it's obviously changed, so

[C]

obviously Obviously he was bleaching his hands.

[E]

Clearly

[C]

he was bleaching his hands. All right, I love you. I love you, Kamika.

[G]

Thank you.

[D]

Bye, Mika.

[B]

Bye.

[C]

So, Kamika, exposure. You were bleaching your hands. Why were you bleaching your hands?

[D]

Monet? Shut the up.

[C]

Kamika said it, not me. Shut the up. Why were you bleaching your hands up? Was it pressure from, like, other people in your neighborhood?

[D]

You know what? Colorism. Colorism, Colorism.

[C]

I don't like the way British people spell color.

[D]

C L, O, U, R. It's so weird. That's how I grew up spelling it. I had no idea. When I came to America, I was like, y' all make this dumb. That's because of the colonization.

[C]

The Queen of St. Louis. Yeah.

[D]

That's because she's in colony colonize the goddamn country.

[C]

Dead.

[D]

Okay?

[C]

She is a dead person.

[D]

Do you believe in respecting older people?

[C]

They deserve respect. Yeah.

[D]

They were like, no. Just on the premise of hat.

[C]

No. Me and my mom used to get into it a lot when I was kids about this specific topic.

[D]

Yeah. I don't think that someone should give respect just because they're old. I mean, family members or family members to me are a little different. I think older because. And the respect for me goes like, if you didn't. If you weren't. If you didn't exist, I wouldn't be here. So I respect you because you are literally the reason I'm here.

[C]

Not enough for me, really. You obviously don't have any fucked up old family members, but, baby, there are some people in my family who are older than me and they are fucked up. And I'm like, I don't fuck with you. I don't care how old you are.

[D]

I mean, like grandparents, specifically because your mother's mother. Mother. If that person wasn't here, you would not be here.

[C]

I mean, that's not enough for me to respect you. It's not like I asked you to be born so that I could be born. I didn't even ask that I could be born. I. I don't think that giving birth to someone or giving birth to someone who gave birth to me is enough of a reason for you to merit respect for me personally. But, I mean, my grandmothers were both very lovely women who I respected a lot because they were lovely. I mean, my mother's mother died when I was very young. I was eight years old. So I don't have a lot of memories of Grandma Liz. But Grandma Julie. Grandma Julie was a lovely, lovely woman who just Treated me with so much kindness and respect throughout the years, especially when I moved back to the Columbus area for college. She was. She helped me out a lot. She lives in Phoenix City, I live in Columbia. They're literally side by side, but. Yeah. But I don't. I. So I guess I didn't have an instance where I had a direct person who gave birth, someone who gave birth to me, be disrespectful or being a monster to me.

[D]

But that is some people's reality, for sure. I know that some people's grandparents were abusive to them, and I. I get that for sure.

[C]

I think some people parent, and I think if your parents. If your parents are abusive to you, you don't owe them some level of respect. In fact, let me tell right now,

[D]

you know, I don't.

[C]

I'm going tell you something right now. There it is. Respecting your elders. Your mother is literally the reason you're alive. But you don't feel like you need to respect her just because she's your mother, right?

[D]

No, no, no, no, no. I guess I was talking from my experience, right, with my grandparents, but my mom. I've been open about that conversation, but.

[C]

So that's what. That's. So. That's what's not so. I think that. So I think that for you, it.

[F]

It.

[C]

Jesus Christ, June. If you're watching, You should have never. My best friend. No, I'm kidding. But I think that me and my mom used to get into it about whether or not I remember being a kid and being like, I just don't think that people deserve my respect just because they're older than me. Like, it doesn't seem appropriate to me.

[D]

And what would she say?

[C]

She said they do. She'd go, you got to respect older people. Just because. And I was like, I don't. And she was like, you do. And I was like, I don't. And that was just the whole conversation.

[D]

But you would not be outright disrespectful to them because you.

[C]

If they disrespected me, then yes, I would. But if I wasn't just going up to old folks being like, fuck your old ass. Old ass, dusty ass. I didn't do that with anyone. You know what I mean?

[D]

Yeah.

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[C]

You remember Whoopi Goldberg had a conversation on the View about, about that. I think that video of that man slapping that woman on the train went, went viral.

[B]

I remember.

[C]

But it was, it was like a guy in a puffer coat on the New York City subway train on the MTA and he fucking just smacked the Lemony Snickers out of this woman. Then the video went viral and Whoopi Goldberg was like, I, he, she hit him first, so.

[D]

Oh, she hit him.

[C]

Yeah. The River Gobert was like, well, tough titty. You hit him. You should have never hit that guy.

[D]

Yeah, I love whooping on the View. She's so funny.

[C]

She was like, don't go around hitting men if you don't want to get hit by a man. Don't hit men.

[D]

Have you something like that? Have you ever broken a bone?

[C]

No, I've never even spent a night in a hospital. Never. Not once neither. I've gone under same and, but only I've only gone under one time ever.

[D]

I've never broken a bone. I had to get stitches one time and that was when my brother cut my finger with a knife and I had to like take me to the hospital.

[C]

What kind of gang related shit were you involved in? Did you get jumped in?

[D]

Damn. My mom, my dad, my brother and the cat, they all jumped me in. Oh my God.

[C]

I had to fight.

[D]

No. So we were playing around in the kitchen and I. So did you as a kid, did y' all make, did y' all make juice from the can,

[C]

the air conditioner, like for concentrate? Yeah, yeah. When I was young.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Right. So you know how I did.

[C]

But somehow concentrate. Orange juice kind of Stop being a thing after a while.

[D]

I think they still sell it. I just think.

[C]

I mean, it just is that being more like. I think that the. The commercials were pushing the other stuff.

[D]

Yeah, it used to be very popular when we were kids. And then. So. But they. They had the thing where if you pull the white thing, the top would just pop off. But I would always get set because. Because I was, like, just being able to use, like, knives. My mom finally let me use knives. I always wanted to take the can and cut it open at the top. She's like, kevin, stop doing that. And I was. But I was still doing it anyway. So anyway, I was going. I was going to make juice Little fat Kev. I was like, ooh, I get to make the cherry lame Kool Aid. Like, I was like, living right.

[C]

Kool Aid in a can.

[D]

Yeah, it came in a can. Maybe it was not Kool Aid.

[C]

I would say Kool Aid in a can. Whatever.

[D]

It was the cherry limeade one. I love the cherry limeade ones. I'm going to make it.

[C]

The Minute Maid, probably.

[D]

Yeah, maybe the Minute Maid. Yeah, the cherry limeade. So I'm going to make it. And then my brother's like, so that's so good.

[C]

She ordered some, like, fun drinks for our memory. I have a video coming out after this that.

[D]

That we are.

[C]

Thrilled about doing. And maybe if we get food and drinks, it'll make it more fun.

[D]

No, I'm on my. Andy and I are on a little jit weight journey I can't have.

[C]

But then make your journey go toward gaining weight.

[D]

So I was. I went to pull on the thing, and then my brother snatched. Because he told me to take the knife, and he snatched a knife. He was like, didn't say not to use this.

[C]

Not snatched a knife.

[D]

Yes. I was like, how much older is he?

[C]

Is he younger than me or six

[D]

years older than me? He's older than you. He's six years older than me. He's 38. Or he gonna be 39 this year. Wait. Yeah, he's gonna be 39 this year.

[C]

My brother's 39. That's so crazy. Think about. I never.

[D]

He's almost 40.

[C]

I've never shocked by my age, but I'm always shocked at how old my brother is. I'm like, my brother's 39. That's crazy. My mother. My mom gave birth 39 years ago. Almost 40.

[D]

Are you gonna do a big thing for Justin on his 40th birthday?

[C]

I don't intend. I don't plan on it now, okay? I'm like, justin, plan his own party.

[D]

So he snatched the knife for me. He, like, didn't, Didn't. Didn't tend not to use this. I was like, yeah, but, you know, trying to be like, whatever, I don't care. I'll use it if I want to. So then he was like, yeah, you're going to use it. So he put my hand on the counter. I put it over my hand.

[C]

He was like. He's like.

[D]

He's like. He's like, if you move your finger, I'm. I'm going to cut your finger off.

[C]

I was like, no.

[D]

He's like, I'm going to cut your finger off. I was like, no, he wasn't going to.

[C]

And then I think he was going to.

[D]

So then I heard my mom. And as you hear my mom. And I move my hand really fast, and it sliced my finger. And when I tell you, I am pouring blood in the kitchen. I am, like, bleeding blood everywhere there. And he's a hearer.

[C]

He's like, add a little dye to the limeade. Cherry. Limeade.

[D]

And he. And I'm screaming, right?

[C]

How old are you?

[D]

Nine?

[C]

Eight?

[D]

Nine. And then I'm screaming. He's like.

[C]

He's like. He's like.

[D]

He's like, please, whatever you do, please do not tell on me. Don't tell him.

[C]

Please, I beg you, don't tell him. And here you go, rat.

[D]

Damn.

[C]

Here you go, rat.

[D]

I have never told anyone.

[C]

Snitches did get stitches.

[D]

I know. I didn't tell anyone. I did not.

[C]

You got stitches, didn't you?

[D]

I did so, bitch stitches. And non snitches get stitches. So then Eric said to my dad. Cause my mom comes in and they're like, what happened? What happened? I was like. I was trying to cut the juice can open. He backed me by the foot, like, yeah. And I didn't rush you to the hospital. I got five stitches on my. And I said, this car, you can still see it.

[C]

And you didn't say anything.

[D]

Never told anyone. I was a. What did I tell you? I'm ride or die, bitch. I'm ride or die.

[C]

I just want you to know that I'm not expecting that from you. And you should never tell me.

[D]

I would tell on you. Oh, the first person I'm telling on.

[C]

Well, I'm not.

[D]

Bitch. You could steal a paperclip from somewhere. I'm telling on you.

[C]

I don't. I don't. You know, I don't need nobody going to. Like, when Lil Kim Went to prison. And folks like applauding that she went to prison instead of snitching. Can we talk about the fact that someone was just out in the world walking around while Lil Kim was just in fucking prison, y'. All. What are we applauding? A black woman went to prison for years.

[D]

Did she?

[G]

Yes.

[D]

I don't remember. I'm so young.

[C]

I don't know how long she was in there, but it was not. It wasn't for maybe it wasn't years.

[D]

Well, people shaded.

[C]

People shamed.

[D]

Tekashi 6ix9ine for snitching on the other one. Isn't 21 Savage having the same thing? People are like, ah, he a snitch.

[C]

She went to jail for one year. Lil kid went to prison for one one for Biggie. I don't know who was for. Let me read what it says here. It says, in 2005, Lil Kim served a one year prison sentence for lying to a. To a jury about her friend's involvement in a shooting. Four years earlier during her incarceration. Her fourth album, the Naked Truth, was released to positive reviews from critics. But like, this was a. A black woman went to prison for a year. And we're all like, good, good.

[D]

I mean, they still do that now, the whole 21 savage thing. People are like, call Tekashi Single night a bit. I mean, again, I don't know the story about Ahan, all these things, but the whole thing was that they. They snitched, right? So it's still a thing that goes on. Very prevalent.

[C]

Like, it's. It's just. It's a really weird. It's a very strange part, I think, of. Of black culture. That it is like, it's not.

[D]

It's Italians. It's not just black culture.

[C]

It's like, I'm just talking about black folks. I ain't. I ain't talking with them Italian.

[D]

Well, so you don't think black. You don't think black people. People can be Italian?

[C]

Black people can be born. Yes, black people can be born in Italy.

[D]

Okay, so black people.

[C]

Okay. But I think black Italians probably have a different cultural experience than black Americans. You agree with that?

[D]

I love what you do. I love the ball goes up.

[C]

But I do think, well, it's so funny, we need to do an okay, three.

[D]

We're almost done.

[C]

One quarter advisory. No, let's just do one advisory, okay?

[D]

We're not gonna. We're just gonna answer a question. We cannot call it advisory.

[C]

Let's just do the one that's One quarter advisory.

[D]

Jacob, pull up an advisory. You are obsessed with this.

[C]

Because we haven't done an advisory in a while, and I like. And it feels like we're talking directly to the people, and we get to hear their voices, Their lovely, lovely voices.

[D]

Do you know we have the power to do an entire advisory after this?

[C]

I know, but I want to hear their voices. Monet, can you just let me have this, please?

[D]

My God. Let you have a lot of things.

[C]

Let me have peace. That's. That's the.

[B]

You.

[C]

You will not let me have.

[E]

Hi, Monet and Bob. This is Riley from California, and I have a story, not a question. Because, Bob, you said on the sibling advisory about rumors that stories about you hooking up don't really surface that often. But I need to know if you have talked about this on the show before, if you even remember. But I know someone. Someone who hooked up with you in New York City, and you asked them to clip their toenails before you hooked up with them and then proceeded to do it after they clipped their toenails in the bathroom. Can you please discuss this?

[D]

If you remember, someone came over, you told them to clip their dirty toenails.

[C]

Can you add it? Dirty?

[D]

That's what I heard.

[C]

Okay. If I remember correctly, and I don't, I think that we. What was probably happening was I clipped my toenails. I was clipping my toenails as someone was coming over in the bathroom. And then when they got there, I was like, oh, I'm clipping my toenails. And do you need to clip your toenails? Maybe. But I don't remember. I don't specifically remember telling someone that I would not hook up with them unless they clipped their toenails. I mean, like, these toenails would have to be crazy also.

[D]

Just keep your socks on.

[C]

I don't remember that. And it doesn't sound like something I

[D]

would say, like, tick up your socks, but maybe. Motherfucking feet.

[C]

Maybe they wanted to do a foot thing. And I was like, well, you have to clip your toenails. Maybe that was the process. Maybe. You know what I mean?

[D]

I've never been confronted with a foot thing before.

[C]

What do you mean?

[D]

Like, anyone who. Like, I've never hooked up with someone, and they're like, I'm a defeat, and we have to discuss foot. I've never. No one I've hooked up with has ever been.

[C]

I've never really discussed foot play. Not. Not like I've kind of discussed foot play. And I'm not really Like I'm not, like, I'm all about them feet, but I'm not, not in defeat. Like, if I'm topping you and a foot's by my face. Oh, yeah, the foot might go in my mouth.

[D]

Oh, yeah. My, my, my, my whole foot being 80 mil.

[C]

Yeah. If I, if, if your foot's near my face, a foot might go in my mouth.

[D]

Yeah, my whole bitch. I'd be sitting that in his throat.

[C]

Shoving the. But I'm trying to think of.

[D]

Because if I'm, if we're, if I'm on my back and both legs are up and like, you know, also I just think it's hot at the top

[C]

if you shove your face on. If you're shoving, you're just kicking them. If you're shoving your mouth, you just, you're just kicking someone.

[D]

I also think it's hot, like, because I, because, you know, this happens when I think I'm doing my thing and to me, the visual of them in their world, I'm just like putting my feet. I just, I think I love a

[C]

foot on, I love a foot on my face when I'm, when I'm like talking someone. One of our friends had their foot rode that.

[D]

Our friend got their foot assaulted by a butthole. Two of our friends by same person. No, they got their feet assaulted.

[C]

Oh, yeah. The little one and the big one.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[C]

And we have a lot of little friends.

[D]

True. Have you ever. Do you know the fisting community is very big in la? Would you. What is if you hooked up with someone and they sprung it on you when you were hooking up? They don't want to be fisted. Would you be into that?

[F]

Maybe.

[C]

I mean, there's been someone who's been like talking to me who's like wanting me to fist them and I'm just like. I was just like, you know, I just don't have any experience with it and, and I'm a little bit nervous about it. And they keep being like, well, if you ever want to try. And they're really good looking, but I'm just like, I just never had my hand in someone's butt before. Yeah, I have big hands. They're not, I mean, they're not like, they're not like massive. They're smaller than Monet's hands.

[D]

It's not true.

[C]

They're smaller than one hand.

[D]

We did it on a whole. And don't do your thing where you try. But the first time I, I was, when I was, I was walked into a fisting I walked into a fisting situation hand first, and I.

[C]

But you knew it was.

[D]

I did not. I showed up, and that's what they were into. And I was.

[C]

Oh, that's right. So the jar on the side of the table.

[D]

Yeah. And I just didn't. I was really good at it. You know, apparently I have good hands for fisting.

[C]

That was a size queen. You know, I feel like I would do it. This one person who wants to do it is really, really attractive. And that's kind of exciting. But it's just. I get something about it makes me a little bit nervous. But I'm not saying no.

[D]

Well, let me get some pointers.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

When you go in, you want to make sure your nails are trimmed. You also want to make sure that you. That you. That you are very lubed up. I mean, get every. Every inch of your hand that is dry needs to have that lube on it. You want everything. And when you go in. A mistake I made is that I was trying to move my hand around. Do not. You're not moving hands around. You're going in and out. You're not turning yourself about.

[C]

What happens when you turned it? Was he like, oh, because I think

[D]

you can twist them and you can twist them inside of you turn around, so you cannot turn. This is not the hokey pokey. You don't turn yourself about.

[C]

I've never done it. I think one day's done it once or twice.

[D]

Once.

[C]

There's this guy online who is like a kink fetishist who I follow on Twitter, and he does this thing. I've never. It's like. It's like wild.

[D]

What?

[C]

So you basically put some chopsticks in someone's asshole. Like metal chopsticks, not the wooden ones.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

You put chopsticks in someone's asshole. But like, maybe like eight. So it's like the size of a penis. They're still sticking out. Not one by. Not one at a time.

[D]

Oh. Like you take the bundle of eight chopsticks and put them in.

[C]

And you put them in someone's asshole. And then you just keep adding chopsticks to the middle. So it just keeps. But they don't realize that it's expanding. They do realize it, but you start with like eight, which is like a. It's like a penis size amount of chopsticks. And, you know, chopsticks are also tapered. They get bigger at the end.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So you just. You put the chopsticks in one by one, and then you can also push them in a Little bit. It's. It was. I was really kind of like, I never thought about anything like that.

[D]

I would be afraid at one. And I guess you can control that one.

[C]

But there's so. But it's so gradual. It's so gradual.

[D]

But you know, like, when you put stuff in that sometimes the one goes deeper than the other.

[C]

Jacob's having a hard time. The fisting wasn't. It's the chopsticks that do it for you.

[D]

I mean, you know, we talked about me. I don't want Jacob got queasy. Remember that viral video?

[C]

You mean the one.

[D]

The one.

[C]

Yeah, that one.

[B]

Girl.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That is wild.

[C]

I don't know how many of you all were. Were. It was called. It was called One Guy, One Jar.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

And I don't know how many of you were around on the Internet during that time, but it was.

[D]

That's tough. That was tough.

[C]

No, this was.

[D]

Jacob was breathing heavy. He is sweating.

[C]

This wasn't you. The thing about One Jar, One cup is that it was being sent to people. It was like you got to watch because it wasn't on Twitter. It was just like a link.

[D]

It was back in the day when it was either link or it was like an attachment in a video, which people used to be able to send like that in the email back then, but now. But anyway, continue.

[C]

You want to take someone with Gmail? Are you mad at Gmail, girl?

[D]

Sometimes they can't even format a video. Now it was 20.

[C]

Well, now on Gmail, if you send it as a YouTube link, it'll embed it because Gmail is also owned by YouTube.

[D]

I never noticed that.

[C]

Yeah, I'm saying you don't notice if you watch a video in Google Drive, it looks like you're watching on YouTube.

[D]

No, I don't use Google Drive. We talk about. I hate Google anyway.

[C]

But yeah, one. One guy, one jar to this. This is. I'm going to give you a trigger warning right now. I'm going to give you five seconds to mute it if you don't want to hear about extremely graphic activity. So one guy, One jar is a video of a guy. All you see is a jar on the ground. And a guy stands over the jar. Then he squats down and puts the jar in his asshole. But it's glass, glass jar.

[D]

And then the glass we have.

[C]

And the glass breaks.

[D]

Shat breaks, shatters.

[C]

And then he pulls it out of his ass.

[D]

But no, there's just. There's blood pouring from his crevice. And then you don't See him pull it out because it's shattered. He, like, goes to the hospital and stuff.

[C]

It was.

[D]

It's an intense video. Wild. The incident used to be a wild place. Remember Two Girls, One Cup?

[C]

I think Two Girls, One cup was the reason why it was called One Guy, One jar.

[G]

Yeah.

[C]

So Two Girls, One cup was a huge culture. And I'm not judging anyone who's into any of this stuff. It is just hard for me to talk about.

[D]

Internet is a wild place.

[C]

Two Girls, One cup was a video that was massive on the Internet. This was when we were the age of Gen Z. Yeah. And it was just these girls and they have a cup and then. And then one girl. And then a girl poops into a cup and then they just.

[D]

But not pooping, bitch. A fountain. A jet stream of just.

[C]

It was like a perfect arc. We gotta give the trigger water for this episode, y'. All. This is. This is great.

[D]

Okay, one more advisory. Now this is the Wild West. What is going on?

[C]

This is crazy.

[G]

Hey, Bob and Monet. My name is Patrick. I'm 19 years old, and currently I live in Northern Virginia. I. I love watching Sibling Rivalry, and I think that what you guys do for queer people, especially queer black people of color, is amazing. And I love all the advice that you guys have to give. So my question for you guys is, since I'm 19 years old, I haven't really delved or dived deep into my queerness. I'm trying to figure out how do I take the beginning steps to really find who I am. I know personally, for me, I don't really want to box myself or define myself in any one thing. I like what I like, and I don't really define one specific gender that I like. I just like what I like. So how do I really find who I am? And what kind of queer spaces can I go to to really understand? And is there anything that I can do to kind of really make this whole experience just kind of come together as one? Thank you guys. Love what you guys have to say. Thank you.

[D]

Well, it sounds to me you have a. More than I feel like I did at 19. Like, you. You sound like you have a pre. Strong sense of what you would like in your queerness and. Or what you. You know what I mean? You're like, you're. You're not. You're not locking yourself into one box of one specific thing. You're allowing your queer experience to be what it's going to be. And I think that's a great place to be as Far as finding other like queer things to do or safe queer spaces. I think it depends on where you live. Right. If you live in Tennessee, maybe a little hard to maybe find things with everything going on right now for all different tribes. But if you. I did it by going. I used to go to the Village Voice and I would get the Village Voice in New York, seeing the little red boxes and like go to the back and like find like all like the gay shit and clubs and shit to go to or different magazines. So I think now we have the Internet. The Internet is vast, ever expanding.

[C]

You have the Internet.

[D]

Not really though. Not in the same way back when.

[C]

In the same way. That's true.

[D]

Do you remember Geocites?

[C]

Yeah, of course.

[D]

Right. It was like shit like that. But now you can literally google like queer board game meetups. Queer like you can. There's so many different. Like find an interest outside of your queerness that you like. Maybe it's badminton, maybe it's dodgeball, maybe it's board games. I'm sure there's a queer league or a queer something in that thing. And I would say start there because you can meet like minded people who not just have the queerness in common, but another interest. And then there's an intersectionality and from there you'll start to build relationships there. And then they're going to talk about, oh, tonight we're going to go to Houlahans tonight and whatever. And you're going to meet more people like this.

[C]

Yeah, Houlahans.

[D]

Yeah, we had Houlahans in Jersey for Scarlin. I used to li' b tch the fucking.

[C]

Oh, Houla Hands.

[D]

So good.

[C]

Boston. I love Houla Hands.

[D]

Houlahans is great.

[C]

We had a Hoolahans in Columbus. Oh my God, Houla Hands. I miss Houla Hands. Are they still around?

[D]

I think they closed down.

[C]

Damn. What happened? Hoolands was better than Uncle Grants.

[D]

I agree for sure.

[C]

How is she still afloat?

[D]

How are you making your lip do that?

[C]

What's my lip doing?

[D]

My mom doesn't do that.

[C]

You're doing the same thing.

[G]

I'm drawing

[D]

Applebeef.

[C]

Is it? Monet's doing it too.

[D]

Am I Applebee?

[C]

But like Hooland's better than her.

[D]

I agree.

[C]

So how is she?

[D]

Wait, I have a gig with Applebeath Cummings.

[C]

Do you really?

[D]

Yeah. No, you do not love that chicken for Popeye.

[C]

But honestly, Monet and I should open up a Hula hands here in LA

[D]

with all of the amazing, fabulous food. Hula Hands No, I'm not hula hands. Monet and I, I and I are doing it.

[C]

It's giving hula.

[D]

Okay.

[C]

Do it by hand and it's giving hands. I'm hula your hands.

[D]

Do you have any advice?

[C]

You know, I think Monet really kind of covered this. I agree. Finding. First of all, I got a chance to go out into the. Into the New York nightlife scene. The New York nightlife scene. When I say turned me out. When I was in college, it was all theater kids. Theater kids. And then my jset team, which I forget that I used to have a

[D]

jset the girls used to teach stepping to.

[C]

No, it was just me and my friends. We would go to the club and we would jset.

[D]

Oh my God. We were a J said scene causanna scene girl.

[C]

We were, we were like, we were like the prancing elite. We're like a JZ crew and we were. Oh, you, you, you laughing. But literally we would go to the. We go to the Chandelier in Columbus, Georgia.

[D]

That is a country club there. The Chandelier.

[C]

That was the black gay club. We go to the Chandelier. We'd be like. We'd rehearse in my living room or in Jalil Johnson room. And then we. Little John was a guy I was kind of dating at the time, but not really, but we were just fooling around. It's like the first guy that I like. Like my first like buddy, basically. Yeah. And we would just, we. Oh my God, not my J setting days. It happened to any song. So I was really. I was obsessed with all the people who J set on YouTube. I was obsessed with these YouTube J setters and they had some songs that they would, they would J said to. And. But typically we would do it to like the whole point was we rehearsed it to like any song that was out of the time. So when the song would come on, we'd be able to jset to anything that happened at the time.

[D]

As long as you have the beats.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, J setting. Those are my days. I was living my little 19, 18 year old life.

[D]

Should we bring J setting to the north?

[B]

Should we.

[D]

Should we start a gay J setting league?

[C]

You know, I don't think that I have the. If I would have stuck with it, I probably would have been. I probably would have been one of these fucking Davenport Chichi Devain face kickers. But I, you know, I told you I used to be able to do this, but until I had that one injury that one time, I Did a split at a club without stretching. And I. Like, I never told you this. When I was in New York City, I was, like, out dancing, and me and my friend Adam were at the club together. And then this, like, queen came up and, like, started trying to challenge me. And I remember.

[D]

Challenge.

[C]

I can't remember. We were, like, dancing back and forth, and then he had a. He, like, did a move, and I did a split. And then I ate him up. And then we went to the next level. We went from the Ritz to Posh. They went to Posh. I went to Posh, baby. This other queen came out and did a little move. He had a. He busted out a fan, A clack fan.

[E]

Before.

[C]

Clack fans were huge. And we were like. Everyone was gagging. He had his clack fan. So he ate me up. And I said, oh, you never to eat me up. I did a jump. Twisty split. I just saw Alyssa Edwards do one on tv, and I felt fierce. I did that split, baby. When I tell you, pop six. Squish Cicero Lip.

[D]

Yes. They go pop, pop. That's me busting bubble, girl.

[C]

I was on the ground, but I. But I stab it. I was like, I can't stop dancing because I can't admit. So I started. I started doing floor work.

[D]

Not floor work. Noing. No, Ginger started doing floor work.

[C]

I started, like, working on the ground. And then I. I crawled over. I crawled over to Adam, and I was like. Because I ate him up. Everyone, like, what? He walked away. Then I said. I said, adam, I can't get. He said, what? I said, adam, I can. I. I literally cannot get up.

[F]

This is.

[D]

Girl.

[C]

Yes. You know, the bathroom was right by the DJ booth. I crawled to the bathroom, and then I crawled. And then Adam was there, and I was like, girl. And I was like,

[D]

how are you walking? You're limping.

[C]

I crawl.

[D]

You crawled home?

[C]

No, I crawled through a crowded club. Crowded club. I crawled to the cab, and I said, please call me cab. And I got in the cab and took my cab back to Long Island City, Queens. Was I living in ozone Parking time to Long Island City, Queens, and crawled up the. I crawled up five flights. I'm monetized. I'm not fucking joking, bitch. Well, it depends. If I was living along is I crawled up one flight of stairs. If I was living Ozone Park, I called up a flight. I think I was living alongside it. So I crawled up one flight of stairs, and then the next day, I had to go to Goodwill to get some crutches. I didn't have insurance, so I went to Goodwill. I had to limp. I limped to Goodwill to get crutches, and I was on crutches for, like, three weeks.

[D]

Yeah. So that when I had to do that split the monster to get the $100 from you, my was up. Like, it would hurt so bad. I was just limping. It hurts. There's no video of it anymore, is there?

[C]

No video.

[D]

I don't think we've ever found it.

[C]

Oh, I'm obsessed, y'.

[G]

All.

[C]

I'm obsessed. It was the monster. It was. I was wearing an orange mesh gown that Keisha Carr made. I had my hair up in, like, a. In like a. Like how. Like, I always wear hair slick bag with hair falling down. And Monet was dressed like be. I don't pound the alarm, maybe.

[D]

And it wasn't funny. I don't remember what it was.

[C]

Monet was dressed like Beetlejuice. Oh, my God. The way this night is one of. I. I remember, like, I was screaming. Screaming because.

[D]

Because when he said, make it rain a hundred dollars, I was like, I'm getting this ho $100.

[C]

And I came with my $100. You did. It was look, queen. It was look queen. I was wearing orange. I was wearing an orange mesh gown. Monet was dressed like Beetlejuice for some. You had just done that photo shoot with. With Magnus Hastings.

[D]

With Magnus Hastings. That's what it was. Yeah.

[C]

How long you been doing drag?

[D]

This year is 11. 11 years.

[C]

So what year did you start? Don't make me do that.

[D]

2012.

[C]

2012. I started in 2009. So this is

[D]

2016.

[C]

Maybe 2019 was 10 years, and then 2021, 22, 23. Not. Not 14 years.

[D]

14 years.

[C]

Girl, that is wild. I've been a drag for 14 years.

[D]

You're one of the old girls.

[C]

Well, it's kind of crazy when I think about the fact that, like, people who I look at as, like, older than me. Like, I look at Bianca as being like. Like, Bianca's older than me. Like, and she is and obviously always will be. But it's weird to me that I am now older than Bianca was when I met her. That is weird to me.

[D]

Oh, is it?

[C]

Because I'm the. I'm older than she was when I met her. That's. But, like, I see Bianca is like. I mean, Bianca's like, 40, 45, I think. Hold on. Hey, Google, how old is Bianca? Dia. Well, it's not going to tell me because she's in my contact. Hold on.

[D]

It won't tell you that someone's in your contacts.

[C]

No, because it. Because it doesn't go off the Internet. It doesn't go off the Internet. It goes off the contact your phone. Yeah, she's 47.

[D]

47.

[C]

47.

[D]

Bitch, you about to have a 50th

[C]

birthday in three years.

[D]

Okay, I'm saying it's tomorrow.

[C]

I mean, I guess, but we're all.

[D]

Here we go.

[C]

We're all about to have a 50th birthday.

[D]

But she's closer than we are.

[C]

But it's just crazy me that she's older than that. She's older now. I'm older now than she was when I met her.

[D]

I'm older now than when you. When I met you.

[C]

But you never saw me as old, did you?

[D]

No, I never saw me as old. I didn't t think who I saw as old that I'm older than. I don't know. I mean, just people in my life. We talk about this one on the podcast too. People. When we're kids, you're like, wow, that person is 27. They're old. And now. But I'm fully 30.

[C]

Oh, baby. The way that I used to. The way that I used to clown my friend Alicia for dating a 29 year old. We were like 19, 18. I was like, not. You didn't. We called him grandpa. We called him grandpa. He was 29 years old. That's wild that I had the nerve, the audacity to call a 29 year old adult grandpa. You're not gonna. You're not gonna. I don't remember the performance either, so. And also, the Look Queen page has been, like, usurped and I forgot the password. The Look Queen page. Anyway, Monet and I have a very long night ahead of us, so. And you all will see why. Coming up very soon. Monet, you ready for this fun?

[D]

Yes. I'm praying that it's you, not me.

[C]

All right, we'll see you soon.