The One Where Monét Starts Beef

Summary

Sibling Rivalry — “The One Where Monét Starts Beef”

Podcast Date: January 20, 2025
Hosts: Bob The Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry is a comedic tour de force as Monét X Change and Bob The Drag Queen ignite playful “beef” with LA drag icon Meatball, rant about hotel misadventures, debate stereotypes (from steak doneness to pop star “blackness”), and reflect on pop culture touchstones from Michael Jackson to Sex and the City. With trademark banter, high-energy roasts, and spontaneous friend call-ins, this episode delivers the pair’s signature mix of shade, laughter, pop culture commentary, and genuine affection.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Monét’s Hotel Woes & Bob’s “Surveillance” (00:41–05:56)

• Monét recounts a winter hotel nightmare: staying at Standard East Village, waiting three hours for her room, and discovering no heat or spare heaters. She laments how unaccommodating the staff was, drawing on her own hotel experience.
• Bob jokes he orchestrated her misery:
  “I said, have her wait. They said, how long? And they said, an hour. I said, no…Three. They said, that’s cruel. I said, I know.” (04:01)
• Comparison to Ace Hotel: Monét praises Ace for its hospitality, despite dark rooms making it hard for queens to do makeup.
• Makeup habits: Monet prefers painting with focused light and a small mirror to perfect details.
• Fun Fact on Hotel Customization: Bob explains that if you have money, hotels will remove furniture, e.g., making sewing rooms for TV production.
• Bug Drama: Bob claims never to have had bedbugs but recalls a friend saying:
  “A guy once said, I contracted HIV in the height of the AIDS epidemic, and having bedbugs is worse than that.” (07:37)

2. The Great Meatball Drag Drama (10:15–11:37)

• Monét vs. Meatball:
  Monét starts “internet beef” with LA queen Meatball, calling her a “lying ass, dirty ass, bitch ass, hoe ass…” (10:40)
• Why? Meatball spread a (false) story about Monét getting a BBL — “She was like, I was there when I got the BBL. She was like, I saw it.” (11:22)
• Challenge: Monét wants to box Meatball:
  “I would love to do a drag queen celebrity boxing match with her.” (11:18)
• Classic Sibling Rivalry banter: Bob, deadpan: “In her defense, I also saw it.” (11:34)

3. Drag Queen Life, Pets, and Shady Friendships (06:01–10:03)

• Pet drama: Colleen the cat bullies other animals; Potato the dog gets fleas after staying with a friend.
• Age debate: Monét thinks her dog’s still a puppy, but Bob calls it out—
  “That’s a grown ass man living in your house right now.” (09:40)
• Friend group dynamics: Roast about mutual friends, the importance of “keeping Monet in check,” and shade about hand sizes (“My catcher’s mitts, my Christmas hams...”).

4. Stereotypes, Steak, and In-Field Research (13:53–20:56)

• Black People & Steak Doneness Stereotype:
  Bob, referencing restaurant experience, claims the stereotype is false, with most Black folks ordering medium well, not well done. Monét disagrees.
• On-the-spot research: They poll friends at dinner and cold-call others live, leading to a running tally.
• Quote: “If you can find me one black person that likes that thing well done…” (15:47)
• Final count: Only 3 of 10 friends polled prefer “well done,” debunking Monét’s belief.

5. Manipulation in Media — Blake Lively, JLo, and PR Spin (22:30–25:56)

• Blake Lively controversy discussed: PR firm (allegedly) tried to sway public opinion and “bury her” after she spoke about set misconduct.
• Bob jokes: “I can slander someone’s name for $200 bucks. Jacob, let’s dig into the savings, I got a couple people I want to malign…” (23:17)
• JLo and viral PR campaigns: Comparison to sudden TikTok hate; discussion of how social media “cancellation” can be orchestrated.
• Ryan Reynolds & Plantation Wedding: Bob discusses Lively and Reynolds’ apology for a wedding venue, pondering whether PR campaigns dig up real dirt or retaliate.

6. Riffing on “Black White Pop Girls” (32:12–33:56)

• Funny rundown:
  “Pink was a black woman. She used to be black, I’m telling y’all… Gwen Stefani was black for a little while…” (32:26)
• Debate on when “white girls stopped being black” in pop music. Bob credits Lady Gaga as the turning point, but Monét pushes back.
• Mariah Carey confusion: Many thought she was white despite being Black; segues to confusion about race, phenotype, and genetics.

7. Identity, Phenotype, and Genetic Complexity (34:37–44:41)

• Passing, identity, and pop culture:
  Can you appear to be a race you’re not? Examples: DJ Khaled, Mariah Carey, Rachel Dolezal.
• Generational change: TikTok video about “Diana Ross Effect”—as interracial families progress, children may appear to be a different race than previous generations.
• Bob explains: “Your phenotype can change from day to day… When you dye your hair, you change your phenotype.” (42:01)
• Michael Jackson as the ultimate case:
  “Even when he looked white, Michael Jackson was still black.” (46:14)

8. Sibling Roasts & Pop Culture Parallels (46:42–58:03)

• Fun personality assignments:
  Bob: “You’re Miranda [from Sex and the City].”
  Monét: “Miranda’s a lesbian. She is… very methodical, very pragmatic, but almost too cerebral…” (55:34)
• Golden Girls assignation:
  Monét: “Why am I Rose?”
  Bob: “She’s a little ditzy… but she can also still be quite biting when it comes down to it.” (56:23)
• Pop quizzes and confusion: Who is Miranda Cosgrove? Did Lisa Kudrow invent Post-Its?
• Backstage at Annie:
  Bob claims (and Whoopi Goldberg confirms) one of the “orphans” is a full adult hired to keep the kids on track.

9. Notable Quotes & Iconic Moments

• Monét on Meatball:
  “Meatball’s a fucking nasty, dirty ass, lying bitch. The next time I see her, it’s on sight, Meatball!” (10:40)
• Bob on hotel orchestrations:
  “I have people who keep eyes on you. Monet walks into the Delta Lounge, and guess who was standing there waiting for her.” (01:48)
• On pet maturity:
  “That’s a grown ass man living in your house right now.” (09:40)
• On phenotype:
  “Your phenotype can 100—your phenotype is nonstop, never not changing.” (42:01)
• On Michael Jackson:
  “Even when he looked white, Michael Jackson was still black.” (46:14)
• On Black-White Pop Girls:
  “Pink was an R&B black woman. She used to be black. … Gwen Stefani was black for a little while.” (32:12–32:38)
• On hands:
  “My catcher’s mitts, my Christmas hams…” (12:16)
• On Sex and the City assignments:
  “You’re definitely, without a shadow of a doubt, unequivocally, you’re Miranda. 100%.” (55:24)

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Memorable Segments & Timestamps

• 00:41–05:56: Hotel horror stories & Bob’s “secret network”
• 07:37: The bedbug quote that “one-upped” HIV
• 09:40: The “grown ass man” pet debate
• 10:15–11:37: The drag queen “celebrity boxing” threat to Meatball
• 13:54–20:56: Live research on Black people’s steak doneness
• 22:30–25:56: PR manipulation, Blake Lively, JLo drama
• 32:12–33:56: The “Black White Pop Girls” comedy history
• 42:01: Phenotype, genetics, and identity talk
• 46:14: “…Michael Jackson was still black.”
• 55:24–56:12: Sex and the City and Golden Girls personality matches

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Wildly playful, punctuated with loving drag queen shade and cultural references
• Equal parts read, rant, and real talk — with laugh-out-loud monologues, mock threats, and affectionate bickering
• Boundary-pushing but rooted in deep rapport and mutual admiration

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Conclusion

This Sibling Rivalry episode exemplifies what makes the podcast cult-favorite comedy: riotous storytelling, genuine chemistry, incisive (and often absurd) cultural critique, and plenty of unscripted, side-splitting reads. From pet drama to drag beef and pop culture myth-busting, Bob and Monét demonstrate why they remain the sharpest — and shadiest — duo in the podcast game.

Transcript

[A]

I'm Kiana.

[B]

And I leveled up my business with Shopify. Once I figured out that Shopify was a thing, I never turned back. I can create a site with my eyes closed. Shopify thinks ahead of us, you know, and it thinks about the customer more than anything. Every day I'm thinking about some other new business, but Shopify is doing it to me because it's so easy to use. It's like I can't stop. I'm addicted. Start your free [e-mail]. my name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[A]

And I'm Monet X Change.

[B]

And this is sibling rivalry. On this week's episode, Monat starts beef with LA icon Meatball.

[A]

Colleen bullies other animals.

[B]

And we find out what made Monae this.

[A]

It's a little touch and go. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[B]

That's a grown ass man living in your house right now. What y' all think of a name that sounds like two? Like Juan.

[A]

Va win. I think you have. Dj, we've done this like twice on a podcast before.

[B]

Have we ever thought of anything that sounds like two?

[A]

Sue.

[B]

Juan.

[A]

Sue.

[B]

Bri.

[A]

Bri.

[B]

Oh, my God. Is that our new thing? Juan.

[A]

Sue.

[B]

Bri.

[A]

Well, Beyonce said Juan 1, 2, 3. I thought she said 4.

[B]

I gagged Monet. Gagged Monet. This is my constant reminder, Monet, that I. I always know where you are. You don't even have to share your location for me to know where you are. Okay?

[A]

And I'll never share my location.

[B]

You don't have to. I have people who keep eyes on you. Monet walks into the Delta Lounge, and guess who was standing there waiting for her.

[A]

You were happy. You happened to be going. Leaving. And as you leaving, you saw me coming in. You were like, that's not true.

[B]

I knew you were headed there, Monet. So when you leave your hotel, I have people text me. Do you know that?

[A]

What time was my flight?

[B]

What?

[A]

What time? Yeah.

[B]

7:30 or 7:55.

[A]

Wrong.

[B]

When was it then?

[A]

7:10.

[B]

I was close. It's approximate times. It's approximate times. So whatever hotel Monet stays in, someone there calls me and checks and says she made it in. Don't worry, I'm not gonna dox you, Monet.

[A]

That's not doxing me.

[B]

It's a public.

[A]

People say this hotel all the time.

[B]

It is doxy.

[A]

I'm not saying it. Not saying it ever again. Bitch. It's the dead of winter in New York City. The heat wasn't working in the first room. I got in. First of all, I told you this. I paid for the nightclub.

[B]

Are you about to publicly start beef with this hotel train? I will.

[A]

So I stayed at the Standard East Village.

[B]

Monet and Monet's has beef with the Standard East Village.

[A]

And there's one gentleman, I forget his name, works at the front. He's always so great. He's really, really, really lovely. He wasn't working. So the other folks, I'm not blaming them, but I came in, my room was not ready. I sat in the lobby for like three hours. And, like, when you know, which was whatever, get into my hotel room. The heat didn't work. I'm like, it is winter in New York, and it means the heat doesn't work. And then they were like. I was like, do you have heaters? They're like, no. And again, I worked in hotels for a very long time in New York City. Most of them, they have spare heaters available literally for situations like this. Because, you know, maintenance, things break down, things don't work. But you pivot and you make your guests. You accommodate your guests as best as you can. They was like, nobody have any heaters? I was like, is there anything you can do for me? They were like, doesn't work.

[B]

I'm listening. Go. I mean, you actually don't have to tell me. Cause I already know, because I set all that up.

[A]

Anyway, I made sure when you got

[B]

there, I said, have her wait. They said, how long? And they said, an hour. I said, no. They said, two hours. I said, no. I said, three. They said, that's cruel. I said, I know.

[A]

And then so they're like, we can move your room the next day. Move my room the next day? The heat still doesn't work in the second room. I was like, this is crazy that I can't get fucking heat in New York City.

[B]

I was gonna say, if you apologize to me, I'll make sure that you don't have to have that experience next time.

[A]

No, thank you. And that's why I always used to stay at the Ace, because the Ace Hotel in midtown, they be taking care of the doll. They take care of the doll. You know, All Stars seven. I convinced. I was like, paramount, you guys have to put us all at the Ace Hotel. And they're like, are you sure? I was like, yes. It's a great hotel. The instance. Sometimes it's a little dark. So all the girls, Jada, Jada. They were like, ugh, it's so difficult to paint here. The room is still dark. I was like, I Know, I don't know why they put us there. Girl. This is great.

[B]

Which, meanwhile, Monet will paint in a closet in the back of a spoon. Monet turns off all the lights in

[A]

the back of a spoon. Well, that's cool.

[B]

Monet would turn off all the lights. Monet has a tiny light in the Monet paints in a dungeon. Then Monet pulls out the smallest mirror you've ever seen in your entire life.

[A]

I don't want any other ambient light affecting this. So I like to just everything be off. And I just want direct light in a small device because I like to get detail. That's why I get to use a small mirror.

[B]

Do you want me to stop making your travel experiences hard for you?

[A]

Yeah, I would love that, actually.

[B]

All right, just apologize.

[A]

I'm going on tour for the next month. It'll be great.

[B]

Anthony, just apologize to me.

[A]

No.

[B]

Or else I'm gonna make the call. And every stop you have, you're gonna have the same thing. No air in the wind. No air in the summer. No heat in the winter. No. Bitch. There might not be a floor. The next hotel you stay in, I'll have them remove the bed from your room until you can get yourself together anyway. You know, they would remove beds from rooms if you ask them to do.

[A]

They will. Do they really?

[B]

Yeah. So when I was on a We're Here. Yeah, when I was on a We're Here, they would take an entire room and make it the sewing room or the something. So they're like. Often one hotel room would be the one where, like, where. Where they do either costumes or they do hair.

[A]

But I mean, I don't imagine. I mean, y' all also go into like, scooby bop bop boop skibidi little towns. Maybe that's a little more easier accommodate. I find it hard to believe you go to, like, a big hotel in New York. Like, you go to the eighth hotel. Like, can you move a bed from a whole room where they have.

[B]

They will. I'm telling you, Monet, I'm telling you, if you give people enough money, they will move. They will start. They will build a win.

[A]

I was just going to say it's probably going to cost a lot of money to do that.

[B]

You have to pay them money. They're not going to just be like, I don't think anyone can. I don't think everyone can just be like, can you please? I have never had. I have never personally had anyone remove a bed from a hotel room, but I have been in several hotel Rooms that had the beds removed. And I remember being like, oh, my God. You can just ask them to remove beds. That's crazy. But they.

[A]

What about. Can you ask them to remove the bed bugs, you think, here at Bedbugs? No, and I don't ever want to.

[B]

You ever know someone who's going through bedbugs?

[A]

No.

[B]

You never know someone going through bedbugs.

[A]

If they did, they never made it known to me. I didn't know.

[B]

That's crazy, because you and I lived in New York City during the begbug rush.

[A]

Honey, there have been a few bedbug rushes since I've lived in New York City, but I've never known anyone going through it.

[B]

Have you ever had me. Now we got bedbugs. Look under the rug. I wrote a bedbug parody years ago.

[A]

Wait, did you. Have you had bedbugs?

[B]

No. Never?

[A]

Not once have you known someone that has had bedbugs?

[B]

Several.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Several. Yeah. And I know this is just a quote. This quote does sound problematic, But I just want you all to know that this is not my quote. This is just someone expressing their feelings about how difficult it is to have bedbugs. A guy once said, I contracted HIV in the height of the AIDS epidemic, and having bedbugs is worse than that.

[A]

Screaming.

[B]

He go, it is. It is worth. He. I'm. These are not my words. I'm just saying, a guy was like, it is. He was like, it is that difficult. He goes, it is genuinely that difficult.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, that's wild.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, when you have bedbugs, you have to. You have to get rid of everything.

[A]

Potato had fleas, and I was going crazy, but I was crazy. I like, we. I stripped furniture from everything that. From the couch to everything. I was, like, fucking bleaching and sanitizing the roll. It was crazy. It was fleas.

[B]

How can I get fleas? He don't go nowhere.

[A]

This is when we were at the old place, and I think Andy took. Andy left him at one of his friend's places, and her cat, I think, ended up having fleas. So Potato got it that way. It was like a whole thing.

[B]

Does Potato have friends? Like dog friends?

[A]

I don't know, actually. I don't know.

[B]

Does Colleen have cat friends?

[A]

Yeah, at the pet sitter, Aiko's. Aiko has a pet and a dog. And Aiko, when I leave Colleen, Colleen bullies the other animals off of their beds.

[B]

Shocker.

[A]

Like, the big dog has a little better likes. Colleen will go over and she'd Be

[B]

like, oh my God. Who'd have thought. Who would have thought that Colleen would bully. That Colleen would mimic the behavior that she sees around her. That's crazy.

[A]

When you come over. Correct. Yes. She's mimicking you. Her aunt.

[B]

I think we gotta get maybe, maybe Potato want to hang out with Gucci.

[A]

Who's Gucci?

[B]

Amber's dog, Gucci. Oh, maybe Gucci's old and chill though.

[A]

Potato is. Potato is a young. Is a puppy. But Potato's not, I guess, not a puppy. Potato's a puppy.

[B]

Potato's gotta be at least three or four years old.

[A]

And that's still. And that's a still a puppy. And dog ears.

[B]

Four years old is considered a puppy. And dog ear.

[A]

No, he's three after, I think four and up. You're. You're adult. Like cats. Cats. Cats are. Cats are adult at one.

[B]

A puppy is between 12 and 18 months. Oh, yeah, that dog. That's a grown ass man in your house. That's a grown ass man living in your house right now.

[A]

A gam.

[B]

Yep, a gam. So he's a grown man and he needs some grown man friends. Gucci is an old man.

[A]

Yeah, I met Amber's all Gucci. Do you know,

[B]

someone asked me the other day at the. I don't remember where I was. I'm trying to remember where was I? I was at precinct and someone came to me and just said, why does Monet just lie and make up stuff?

[A]

Who said that? Was it Meatball? It was some Meatball is Wanda talk. Meatball literally makes things about.

[B]

It wasn't Meatball. You are attacking Meatball for.

[A]

No, no, no. Yeah, no, I'm attacking Meatball separately. From what you said, Meatball is a fucking.

[B]

All of a sudden you said she wanted to talk. She didn't say nothing about you.

[A]

Meatball's a fucking nasty, dirty ass, lying bitch. And I. The next time I see her is on the fuck site. Meatball. You hear me, bitch? You see, the next time I see you is on fucking site. You fucking lying ass, dirty ass, bitch ass, hoe ass. What does she lie about? She knows and she fucking knows.

[B]

What? What is he? I just want to be clear. It was not Meatball, ok? Who would win in a fight? You're a meatball girl.

[A]

I would mollywop the fuck out of that bitch. Honestly. Meatball, somebody do it. I would love. I would do a celebrity boxing. I mean a drag queen celebrity boxing with her.

[B]

Did I miss a chapter of the world? How did you meet Ball?

[A]

Meatball is Constantly attacking me, be smirching my name online. How she lied to the entire Internet and said that I got a BBL that I didn't. And she's like. She was like. She was like, I was there when I got the bbl. She was like, I saw it.

[B]

In her defense, I also saw it.

[A]

Well, I want to fight you too, but honestly, I would love to do a drag queen celebrity boxing match with Meatball.

[B]

You got a bff. A big, big fucking foot.

[A]

You got one to talk with your big ass. With your slave hands.

[B]

My feet are smaller than yours. We've already covered my hands.

[A]

Your big ass. Meaty ass paws, bitch.

[B]

So the other day, we were out. The other day, me and Monet were out at Cabba Capacali, Capioli, Capacavelle.

[A]

I forgot the name of this restaurant.

[B]

Cappelli Capoli. What's it called?

[A]

Cappelia. Your vertical is Coppelia Capelia.

[B]

And then Monet was on her random rants about the size of my frying pan hands.

[A]

My.

[B]

My catcher's mitts, my Christmas hams. And then we held our hands up, and then all of Monet's friends are like, your hands are the same size.

[A]

Call them now.

[B]

Call them now.

[A]

Call me now for your free tarot reading.

[B]

There's no substitute Coloritza.

[A]

Call them now.

[B]

They all. They were like, they're the same side. Also. Yeah, I. I love being right with Aritza.

[A]

Not Aritza.

[B]

Aritza. We were. We were hanging out, and then I looked at her. Wild night. I looked at a Ritza, and I was like, oh, my God. And I looked at money. I said, do you realize that Arissa looks just like Nicki Minaj? And when it was like, no, I was like, no, she looks like Nicki Minaj. I bet a dollar she gets it.

[A]

That's a picture of me and Aritza right? Right here. Let me send it to Jacob right now.

[B]

I said. I said, I bet she gets it all the time. And it was like, no, no, no. And then. And I said, I'm telling you, she's gonna say. She's gonna say all the time. And then I leaned over to Aritza and I said, has anyone ever told you you like Nicki Minaj? And without missing a beat, she goes all the time. I was like, oh, that feels. It felt so delicious. So then Aretza, I need to keep her around because she keeps Monet in check. Her and arcia, all the AIAs or ASA, whatever. ASAs, keep Monet in Check Aritza Arza. Hold on. What the fuck was that? All the Itza Atsas, like the Asas, the Aritza Arcia, all the Ar.

[A]

Us, Bob. Just us. You just say.

[B]

But then at the end, too, it ends and begins with an like. Like, we need to get an Amanda up in here to keep you together. So then Monet was swinging her hands bigger than mine. Arisa was like, no, they're the same size. And then this was probably my. This was probably the most delicious moment of the evening.

[A]

What?

[B]

So Monet has been on this rampage now. I worked in restaurants for probably, like, eight years, and there is a stereotype that black people always get their steaks and their burgers well done. But from my field experience, I have experienced that black people mostly get their steaks and their burgers, especially their burgers, medium well. Almost always they do medium well. And Monet was like, no, black people always get their steaks done well done. Then I said, well, I don't. I get my medium well. How do you get yours? Monet said, medium. I said, well, then there. We have two people.

[A]

No, see, I already said. I said medium well.

[B]

You get.

[A]

I get my six. Medium well.

[B]

That feels like a lot. But then it's not.

[A]

Ask Andy.

[B]

So then Monet was like, no, but black people do. So then we turned to Cannon, and I said, cannon, how do you get your steaks done? And he was like, medium. I said, okay. So there goes that. And then Monet was like, no, but black people always get them well done. Then we turned to Aritza with, how do you get your done? She was like, medium. I was like, okay, well.

[A]

She said, medium well. Medium well.

[B]

I was like, but she didn't say well, though, right?

[A]

The medium well. I said. She said, medium well.

[B]

There were four of us. And I was like, well, I just don't see. And then I was like, what if we just.

[A]

I would say Aritza and cannibals. Like, nah, but I know a lot of black people. That's how to get this thing well done.

[B]

So then we were like, okay, let's ask some random people. Aritza got up as this guy. She goes, how do you get your steak? He goes, medium rare or. He said, rare. Then I'm almost done. I'm almost done. I'm not done talking. I'm still. I'm still reclaiming my time. I'm still talking. I'm talking. I'm talking, Mr. Vice President. I'm talking. Thank you.

[A]

No, that's not who it was.

[B]

No, it was Kamala Harris said, it's Kamala Khan.

[A]

I think someone got it.

[B]

Mike Pence. Yeah. And then she asked the lady who was with that man and then she said medium. And then, then she asked the security guard and the security guard said, well done. And what I said was a big

[A]

part of the story when the Bob was like. Bob was like Monet. I'll find. If you can find me one black.

[B]

That's not what I said. You already misquoting me. You already say go ahead and misquote me. And then I'll tell you what, the real quick one.

[A]

What'd you say?

[B]

No, you misquote me first. Misquote me first.

[A]

No, not misquoting you.

[B]

You can misquote me right after this break. On a break. Stop talking. We're on a break. Shut your fucking mouth.

[A]

You let me shut my fat ass mouth.

[B]

I said fucking. We'll be back after this break. Wow.

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[B]

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[A]

I almost couldn't breathe when I saw

[B]

the discount they gave me on my first order.

[A]

Oh, sorry.

[B]

Namaste.

[A]

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[B]

Wait, before you go, I saw this, this TikTok today that reminded me of you and Arcia before I go before. But no, before you say your thing before. Before you give your.

[A]

Your.

[B]

Your fake news. I saw this tick tock. That reminded me of you and Arcia. And I don't know why this reminded me because this, this is how RCA Monet talk to each other.

[A]

Happy New Year, you big, nasty, stunk, funky, begging Hungry, greedy foot dragging old bald head, big bunky back, pickled pig feet, smelling star crunched skin.

[B]

I was like, by the way, if y' all hang out with rc, that's how they talk. I was like, I don't want to be a part of this. I don't want no part of that. I don't want no part of that.

[A]

That was tame. We're worse than that. I like, well, rc, let me call. I'll call RC real quick. She probably answered because she's off. And this, y', all, this is unprompted. RC has no idea this is happening. Y' all go to head to how we talk.

[B]

She can say hello, you big nasty slue foot. Hey, there you been.

[A]

She good. She want me call me back. Um, yeah, that's how we go ahead, misquote.

[B]

Go ahead, misquote me, y'. All.

[A]

And y', all, there is literally hours of footage of this podcast Bob saying this exact same thing. And y' all know it. He goes, monet, I'll give you till the end of this dinner to find one black person that likes that thing well done. And I was like, okay. Again, we asked those two people, they said no. Then we asked the security guard and he was like, yeah, I like my steak well done. I was like, boom, so now what?

[B]

But also, that doesn't prove that most. Because I want to be. Cause what I was saying was you. I was giving you the Internet to find more black people to more. You said one, y', all, but you did. But that does. But that doesn't Prove we asked. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. And then out of all those seven, we had no me, you cannon Aritza. The two at the bar, that's six plus seven. The bar. The. Yeah, no counting as Big foot slew Crunch, Big gorilla back.

[A]

You got some of them, you ball water mammal sitting on a

[B]

chinchilla shouldered Donkey Kong knuckle ass. No, but then so. So then I was like, well, let me just text a friend. So I text Larry, I text dj2face.

[A]

This is. This is weeks ago though.

[B]

No, this the same at the same time. I didn't want to hurt your feelings. I showed can. I didn't show you. I text him at the dinner table.

[A]

At that point, I was. I was Twisty McQuisty. I've been drinking so much that day.

[B]

Medium rare. So I'm saying is from the Phil. Just from asking all the people in our circle and. And random people at the bar. So out of eight people, when they got one Guy to say well done when it was like, see, that proves it. Most. Most white people do well done sex. Most don't. No, don't text. Nothing shady. Just call.

[A]

I'm just. I'm calling Kamika.

[B]

Hey, Kevin. I can't do her accent, y'. All.

[A]

You're on the podcast. Y' all hear me get answerable. This. I could be cancel for each time. She'd be like, hello, Mika, quick question. How do you like your steaks and burgers and burgers? Well done. Good. Thank you very much. I wanted to verify that I love you. I'm gonna call you out through friends of podcast. Love you too. Love you guys.

[B]

You have 2 out of 9. Does not support your theory. You have 2 out of 9. Okay.

[A]

I'm not gonna do a list and call all the black people.

[B]

Two out of nine.

[A]

Let me call one more. Let me call one more black person.

[B]

And I'm gonna call two. And I'm calling, too, honey. Good morning.

[A]

Good morning, Dejaan. You're on the podcast. Happy New Year. Burgers. Burgers. Let's listen. I have a question, Duan. How do you like your burgers and your steak cooked? Well done. Thank you. All right. I just wanted to just verify that I'm gonna call you after we finish the podcast.

[B]

You have three out of 10. You have three out of 10. It's not looking good for your mom. You have to do a lot of catching up. You got to do a lot of catching up, Ms. Mamas. I'm in Mexico, so my call might not go through as well. Oh, I mean, it's not. It's, like, ringing weird. You hear me trying to call.

[A]

Y' all know Jacob and Bob be doing weird shit with their fucking devices.

[B]

Your level of parent because. Because you and your boyfriend lie to each other don't mean that means Jacob.

[A]

Because you and Jacob lied to me.

[B]

You guys created a whole scenario about

[A]

a ring that overwhelming you and Jacob

[B]

created a whole big hand. Your big giant hand.

[A]

Y' all created a whole scenario about a ring to make me look crazy

[B]

and then wonder why that is my ring. The ring is.

[A]

I've had that issues with y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Jacob came clean years ago on this podcast.

[B]

So now you said that to stop complaining. The ring was. I've had that ring for literally years.

[A]

Y' all are the reason I have. I have trust issues on this podcast.

[B]

Being weird about it. I have literally had that ring for. For years. Monet. You have no proof that. I have proof that I've had the ring for Years. What do you have? I have. What do you have? What do you have, huh?

[A]

Anyway, so

[B]

besides frying pan hands, what do you have?

[A]

You have something.

[B]

Look.

[A]

Look at that covering, that microphone. That microphone is 12ft long.

[B]

Besides hands. Besides hands the size of catcher's mist, what do you have?

[A]

A chicken. A chicken at a dress.

[B]

That's all you got, lady? Two wrong feet and ugly shoes.

[A]

All right, Julia, you could never me and Lord. Have you seen this whole Blake Lively thing? No, I posted on my story. So Blake Lively did this movie. It ends with us really quick. And then she had some inappropriate things that happened on set with the director slash a co star, like improvising kisses and one of the produ. Like one of this guy. Like she was changing backstage and you know, she asked. They asked him to look away. He didn't. He was like, watching her change anyway. Just misconduct on set. So to like, deter her. The New York Times did a whole thing about it to, like, make her look crazy. They started this like, crazy PR campaign paying like $200,000 to this PR firm. And like, they have all these things back and forth with them, like, talking about how they're going to bury her.

[B]

Paying for $20 a pr. How much you say?

[A]

$200,000. $200.

[B]

I can slander someone name for 200 bucks. Jacob, let's dig into the savings. I got a couple of people I want to malign girl. And it's like.

[A]

It's just crazy how like a PR company can put all this misinformation and shady things about someone to make them look crazy when they were the ones who experienced. It's just like, I put up my story if anyone's interested. I mean, y' all not gonna see it.

[B]

What were they saying about Blake Lively?

[A]

They just like, was like, trying to twist. Twist the narrative. Like, put different things out about her. Like pay different TikToks account. TikTok accounts to say like. Like to just sway public opinion about Blake Lively to make her look crazy.

[B]

Did you see a couple of months ago that people were being mean to Blake Lively on TikTok?

[A]

Yes. And that's what it was. That's what it was.

[B]

That's what it was interesting.

[A]

I was like, this is the fact that we live in a time where you can do this is crazy. But again, this is not new, right? People used to do with fucking tabloids and gossip magazines and planted paparazzi pictures. Like, what do you think?

[B]

So do you think it happened to JLo?

[A]

I don't know. Maybe because that the jello thing did feel like it just happened randomly out of nowhere. Like, all of a sudden, one day, one TikTok went out about her and orange drink or whatever it was. And then I feel like overnight, everything I saw was, JLO is so phony. Ugh, I hate her. Why do we support. It was just like the world had turned on JLo. What did she do?

[B]

So what did JLO do? Well, apparently Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively did have a plantation wedding.

[A]

A plantation wedding? Like, at a. At a. At a. At a. Deadpool.

[B]

Deadpool. Ryan Reynolds in 2020. Oh. So Deadpool star Ryan Reynolds said that he and his wife, actress Blake Lively, are. Are deeply, unreservedly sorry for holding their 2012 wedding ceremony at a South Carolina plantation. It is impossible to reconcile. So my question is, was these people just basically just fighting? True stuff about Blake Lively was. So it seems like the Blake Lively dig up. Digging up Blake Lively stuff was retaliate or preemptive to retaliate against Blake Lively being like, hey, you. So I think two things can be true at once. Kind of like what's her name? The lady from Bombshell.

[A]

Megan Kelly.

[B]

Movie Bombshell. Megan Kelly. Megyn Kelly. While Megyn Kelly was sexually. There was sexual misconduct toward Megyn Kelly at Fox. She's also a crazy racist lady.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Simultaneously, I mean, I don't know, dying to say something. Megan Kelly. Megyn Kelly is the one who. Who. Who. Who's.

[A]

Yeah, Ms. Megan Kelly who goes on

[B]

her annual rant that Santa Claus is white every year and that Jesus is white every year.

[A]

Sorry, y'. All. I have, like, phlegm deep in the back of my throat. Crazy.

[B]

His name is phlegm?

[A]

No, his name was Marcus.

[B]

He was deep in the back. How deep back there was he? Girl, can you swallow really, really long penises?

[A]

Yeah, I can go. I can. I can. I have. I'm. I'm. I'm. I have a very, very talented throat.

[B]

So you've never met a penis? You couldn't get your chin on their balls.

[A]

Not once.

[B]

Never. Not once.

[A]

Never. Not once.

[B]

No.

[A]

No, that's not true. I have met some. That's not true.

[B]

If Monet could not depra you. Please comment below. If you have personally hooked up with Monet and she could not rise to the occasion, then please comment below.

[A]

Can I tell you something? I mean, I don't. I don't know this. It's not problematic, but it's one of the moments that happened, Okay? I was hooking up with this and this matters. This black Dominican guy from New York. And then we were, like, looking up, and then he looks and he goes. He go, yo, yo. I just. I just love seeing, like, our skin color together. And again, that's not problematic. And, like, it's fine. But it was very in the moment. I was like, are we fetishizing each other? Which we all fetish is. But, well, let.

[B]

Well, let's. Let's. Let's flip the tables. Okay. Two pasty white people are together, and one of them goes, I love seeing our skin color together. Is it weird?

[A]

Yeah, because they're white, though. Because we're black. I don't feel like it's weird.

[B]

Were you the one who brought it up and said it was weird? Bitch, I never said it was like it was weird.

[A]

I didn't think it was weird. But in the context of, like, where we are right now in the world, when anything happens, my brain is always kind of thinking about, like, is this problematic how? Or, like, even though it's like you and I can say, I don't know, something about us being black. And in the back of my head, I'm always kind of thinking the gears are always turning. Like, where does this land in the world of problematism?

[B]

Okay, you said gears. I'm so proud of you.

[A]

What?

[B]

You said gears. You didn't say gears. You said gears. Everyone give it up for Monet Jacob.

[A]

If you clap, I'm gonna punch you in your face.

[B]

Excuse you.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Jacob's been taking boxing classes.

[A]

I'll have you know, look at Jacob Jacob.

[B]

You know, years ago, and I mean, years ago, I was, like, 24, maybe. I was, by the way, to show you all how absurd this interact. How crazy this interaction was, this was happening through HR you are the HR Jacob. Nobody punching HR I was Craigslist email. Because when you hook up on Craigslist, you have to email, y'. All. You have to email back and forth. Email. That's crazy. We were emailing, and I was looking at this guy, and he was. Well, I was getting hooked up with this guy. We actually never made it a hooking up. And he was. He was a black guy. And it does matter for this context, right? So the guy was like, you know. You know, trying to see, what are you into? What are you into? What are you into? This kind of stuff. He was like, are you into watching porn? And I. And at the time, I was like, I mean, not. Not for hooking up. Not really, but I'm. But I could, like, I. You know, I'm I think you're really attractive. And I. And I wanna. And I wanna hook up with you. I know that. So if you wanna watch some porn, we can watch some porn when we hook up together. And he was like, okay, what kind of porn do you watch? And I was like, you know, mostly gay porn. Just mostly gay porn. He goes, okay, so what if I put on porn and there's a white guy in it? Would you.

[A]

Would you.

[B]

Would you lose your erection? And I was like, no. He was like, so you telling me if there's a white guy in the porn, you can still watch it? And I was like, yeah, I can still watch it. Yeah. And he was. And then. But then it became. Then it became this whole thing about him being, like, disappointed in the fact that I wouldn't be disgusted if there's a white guy on the phone. I was like, but this is crazy because, like, I'm trying to hook up with you. Like, I'm trying to hook up with you in this moment. This is about me.

[A]

You've added the. You added the porn.

[B]

And then he basically saying, like, if you're attracted to. I guess what he was getting at was if you're. If you would be attracted to a white person, that I don't want to

[A]

hook up with you. Yeah.

[B]

Which I guess is his prerogative in his thing. But I was like, but you and I are hooking up. Like, this is me and you. We never got there.

[A]

Yeah. Interesting work. How do we get on this topic?

[B]

Because you and. You and. You and the Dominican guy.

[A]

Oh, right.

[B]

And I don't know how we got the Dominican guy from Blake Lively, because

[A]

Blake Lively is Dominican black life in Dominica. I thought you're America.

[B]

But there is a chance that JLo's demise is all because of retaliation.

[A]

But of what?

[B]

I wouldn't know, because she didn't even get a chance to. Because she got maligned.

[A]

Yeah. It's kind of crazy how you can do this in this day when she

[B]

goes to poor Jayla.

[A]

I don't. I didn't say that. I don't know what Joe's going through, but.

[B]

So you don't want. Do you say we should not support JLo?

[A]

I just say that I don't know what Joe's going through.

[B]

What do you think about JLo? I need you to take a step. I need you to take a public stance on JLO after this.

[A]

No, we don't. But, yeah, we'll take a break, and I still won't give you a stance.

[B]

Why Are people from Brooklyn so jealous of people from the Bronx?

[A]

You know, I think that the Bronx, they just have seen just the. How successful Brooklynites have been in our lives.

[B]

That's not what I said. I said, why are people from Brooklyn so jealous? People from the Bronx.

[A]

I think people in the Bronx are just obsessed with how successful we are and how fierce people from Brooklyn are and how sick they are.

[B]

It feels like you're taking part of the campaign against JLo, and I feel like it's because she's from the Bronx.

[A]

Yeah, it's because I think as of JLO being a Bronx tonight, she is. I think we also be. Jlo has give. You know, regardless of who was ghost singing her shit, whatever. JLO was giving us some. Some bops. If you want to treat me. Yes, you don't.

[B]

If you want to, man.

[A]

My gosh, I don't.

[B]

Any lyrics you want, go ahead. Any lyrics you want, just do. Any lyrics you choose.

[A]

My love don't cause a thing, thing, thing. Here we go.

[B]

Do you remember when all the. When all the pop girls were black Girl? Pink, pink, black pink. The original black pink Girl Pink, y'. All. Pink was an RV Black woman. She used to be black. I'm tell y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Pink used to be black. I'm not making this up.

[A]

Have you seen. Go ahead.

[B]

Gwen Stefani was black for a little while. Who?

[A]

Oh, yeah, Gwen Stefani was black. She was black a little bit.

[B]

Pink was black. I feel like the girls stopped being, you know, I think ushered in white girls stopped being black.

[A]

Who.

[B]

I'm gonna say it. It was Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga was like, guys, we gotta stop being black.

[A]

No, it happened before.

[B]

I don't think there's been a truly successful black white girl since Poker Face dropped.

[A]

That's not true.

[B]

Who?

[A]

Oh, he is saying his ass. Jacob. That's girl, but let's not talk about that one. But yes, for sure.

[B]

Okay. Lady Gaga. You did not have the impact.

[A]

That was what was on my mind as well. I was like, girl, are you joking?

[B]

Okay, I redact my statement. There have been some successful black white

[A]

girls, but it's less.

[B]

Probably all the. Not all. I'm being a little bit facetious. Britney Spears was never like a black girl.

[A]

No, never.

[B]

But a lot of them used to be like, black white girls, girl, 100%.

[A]

That's just to the point where people

[B]

couldn't tell if the black girls were black girls. People thought Mariah Carey was a white girl.

[A]

I mean, I grew up thinking Mariah Carey was white.

[B]

Okay. I was having this conversation the other day about on. Oh, first of all, I'm back in my TikTok debate streets, which, by the way, I need to stop. It is so toxic, Monet. But I can't stop.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I can't stop my. I can't help myself.

[A]

I know. I know this about you.

[B]

I was in my hotel room vaping and tiktoking my two favorite vices.

[A]

Aren't you supposed to be on vacation? On the beach. Oh, wait, so everybody else on the beach? Are you just in your hotel room?

[B]

This is in New York. This is after. This is after the Annie. And I was trying to stay awake to make it to my flight on

[A]

time because y' all know if Baba took what took his ass to bed, he would have missed that flight. He'd have been hitting up everyone the

[B]

next day like, y'. All. Oh, right. I did not have a history of missing that many. I've missed a few fights in my day. But when you take. When you take as many fights I've taken, you're gonna miss some.

[A]

Well, I have never missed a single. I miss. I missed one flight. Patty and I have been. One missed one.

[B]

So you have. Thank you.

[A]

One flight.

[B]

So you have.

[A]

Whatever.

[B]

Stop talking. Sorry.

[A]

Tell us.

[B]

I'm. Stop talking when you're. It's so inflammatory. But anyway, so we were having a conversation about. I was just trying to say there are times where you can appear to be a race that you're not. Like, you can. You can look like a race that you are not. That is a thing. And then they were trying to argue with. They, like, that's not a thing. That's not a thing. That's not. It is a thing. People will look at someone and they will be a different race than they actually are. And they were like, well, who? And I was like, well, for example, a lot of people thought DJ Khaled was black. I don't think he was black, but there are people. And then even one of the hosts. And even one of the hosts, like, yeah, I thought he was black. I was like. So you admit that people can appear. Not to everybody, but to some people. You can confuse people's race. You thought DJ Khaled was black? Now, it's not necessarily. Necessarily look black, but he was also appropriating a lot of black culture. He was hanging out with a lot of black people. He was making black music, and he was dressing a certain way, getting his haircut a certain way. And he's not particularly like. He's not, like, pale. So you would just look and be like, oh, he black. And you just keep moving about your life just like a bunch of people thought and to this day think Mariah Carey is a white lady despite the fact that she's a black lady.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So the whole conversation was, is Sophia Richie, who I just found out about, by the way? You probably know she is she. This, this is Tuck World. She's lying on Richie's daughter.

[A]

Oh. The question is Nicole Richie's sister.

[B]

But, yeah, but Nicole Richie, I think Nicole Richie was adopted. So they're not, they're not blood related.

[A]

But she is. Her name is Sophia Richie.

[B]

Isn't Nicole Richie adopted? Did I make that up?

[A]

I don't think that's true. I think she's. That's Lionel. I don't think she's adopted.

[B]

Yeah, I think Lionel Richie adopted her. Jacob's gonna look. Google right now. I'm almost positive that Nicole Richie was adopted. I'm almost. I'm in the realm of 100 positive, 95 positive that Nicole Richie was adopted. It was like a big. Was it like a big plot line in. In Simple Life or something?

[A]

I mean, I don't know. Nicole Richie adopted.

[B]

Just Google if she's adopted. Jacob, just say, is Nicole Richie.

[A]

Yeah, Nicole Richie was adopted by Lionel Richie and then his wife and then wife Brenda. Yeah, when she was nine years old.

[B]

You don't apologize for being wrong.

[A]

Don't apologize for sucking my dick.

[B]

Anyway, so the question was, is

[A]

Sophia Richie.

[B]

Sophia Richie? Why is she? Is she? They could be like, who is this? And I said, I don't know this. I don't know this woman. I don't know who this woman is. I've never seen her before because I had just discovered her in this moment. Apparently, it's a big debate on TikTok whether or not she's black or if she's white. Right. And they were like, no, she's white. And I was like, well, I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I said, she does look white to me. I would say this woman does look white. But I can't always guess someone's race by looking at them. That's not always the best way to tell someone's race. Usually.

[A]

Usually, I mean, this looks like a white woman. If I saw this person, I'd be like, oh, it's a white lady.

[B]

Yeah. And I was like, usually it'd be pretty spot on. Usually if I. Usually if I see someone, I'd be like, oh, that's a black person, that's a white person, blah, blah, blah, that's an Asian person. Sometimes it might be like, I'm not 100 sure, but I know they're not white. Or I'm. I'm not 100 sure, but I know they're not black. Or I'm 100, but I know they're not Asian. You know what I mean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But then. So that was the. I. I'm actually. We got so lost in the sauce and we actually all ended up being quite friends in the end of the tick Tock debate. We actually started having a really good time in kikiing and, like, really enjoying ourselves. But I was trying to state the case that sometimes you cannot tell someone's race simply by looking at them, but just because you mistook their race does not make them a different race. I would just say. I was just saying, like, just because you mistook someone's race does not mean that that person is now a different race because you mistook their race.

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense. Have you seen that guy who talks about the Diana ross effect on TikTok?

[B]

Diana Ross effect?

[A]

Yeah, Basically, like, kind of like, I'm gonna send it to you so you can take a look at it. You should watch this. I want to send it to you on Tick Tock.

[B]

Okay, like, for example, so while you look for it, I was saying, like, for example, there were a lot of people in Washington who thought Rachel Dolezal was black. They looked at her, they thought she was black. But that does not make Rachel. Even though, like, all the folks in the community were like, oh, this lady's black. Several people thought she was black. That never actually made her a black woman.

[A]

Wait, I sent you the wrong video. I'll try to find it. But this is guy basically talking about, like, how, like, I wanted to send

[B]

me a bit of her sucking someone off. Can I post it?

[A]

Oh, my God, that's the guy. That's. That's the Dominican guy.

[B]

That's the flam.

[A]

Mm. Fuck. I don't know where I saw it. I don't know. Anyway, basically talking about how, like, you can, like, kind of like, in just like, one generation, your family can change, like, two generations, your family can completely, like, change your race. Like, for example, right? He gave Diana Ross's son Evan Ross. Cause Diana. Cause Evan. Evan Ross is half black, half white, I believe. And then Evan married Ashley Simpson, who is white. So their kids, like, just look like white kids. They don't look black anymore. He was like, in, like, two generations Your family can go from a black family to a completely different race look. A phenotype looking. And then he was like. And it happened to his family as well. Like, his entire family's black, but his. Someone was with a Dominic, a white looking Dominican person. So in like two generations, he's the only, like black phenotype looking person's family. And they're. They're all cousins and whatever. Cousins and grand cousins or whatever it is. But he's the only one that looks black and everyone else looks white in his family.

[B]

Yeah, because. Because even though. Even though it will try to kind of go. But it is still possible for some recessive genes for a black child to randomly pop out.

[A]

Yeah, but he was possible for a

[B]

white child to just randomly pop out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Isn't that wild?

[A]

Yeah. And then he, like, put a picture, which is kind of problematic of like Diana Ross's family because they had like a family recently. And like, it was like. Yeah, it was like, wow. Like, like. Was it a gradient?

[B]

It kept getting wider and wider toward the end.

[A]

No, just like Diana Ross is like the one black person like everybody else, kind of like white. It's kind of like, it's kind of.

[B]

Ross is black.

[A]

I know. As I say, so she's the one black looking person, by the way. She's beautiful and she's.

[B]

Evan Ross is fine.

[A]

Oh, he's. He's hot. He's hot. But in like there. It's like a Christmas picture. Y' all don't remember. Someone's probably seen a video. It's like a Christmas picture or something like that of the Ross family. And then Ross is just as like, clearly like this black lady with the rest of the family, but they're all like white and like white looking and white passing. And she does this black lady, like,

[B]

hey, it's kind of.

[A]

It's interesting.

[B]

There's a. There's a. I don't know if she's trolling or if it's true, but there is this. Because you never know what's real on TikTok. But I'm just gonna take her at her face value. There's this black lady. She's like, she's like my complexion. And she. She gave birth to a white baby. She has. She's holding this baby and the baby is white with blonde hair. And she's like, yo, I do not know why my baby's white with blonde hair. I don't understand.

[A]

Black.

[B]

Yeah. What is a white baby? Like a white.

[A]

Is a baby albino?

[B]

Nope. White with Blonde hair and blue eyes, wild. And she's like, y', all, I do not know why my baby is white. I cannot tell you why my baby's white. None of my other babies are white, but this baby is white. I do not know what happened, but she was like, but this is my baby and she's white.

[A]

I want my baby. White baby, white baby.

[B]

I was also trying to tell someone this other prison. You're going to prison. I tell someone this too. Your phenotype can change.

[A]

Like with generate. Not in one. Not in you.

[B]

No. Your type can change from day to day. Your phenotype is just observable things about your body. When you dye your hair, you change your phenotype. Phenotype is not genetics. Genetics inspire your phenotype, but they can be changed when you get taller. Your phenotype change. When you gain weight. Your phenotype changes. When you cut your nails, your phenotype changes. Phenotype is literally just observable traits about a person. Your phenotype can 100. Your phenotype is non stop. I see it. Get that off the screen. Your phenotype is. Your phenotype is non stop, never not changing. When you wake up, your phenotype is slightly different than it was when you go to sleep at night. So that's what I. So, but then, but this is. This is how misinformation gets spread. So now there's this conversation online where like phenotype can't change. That's not true. That is not true. Your genetics have something to do with your phenotype, but you can change the way you look without changing your genetics. So do you want to read phenotype off and then the audience will hear because you. I see you clicking and clacking.

[A]

No, I wasn't, I was, I was, I was googling the definition of phenotype.

[B]

Yeah, read it. I say that sometimes you click into it. Read it.

[A]

The phenotype is the term used to describe the observable characteristics of an organism.

[B]

You read it so people can understand what you're saying.

[A]

Nigga, calm the fuck down. You can ask politely in a motherfucking polite way.

[B]

Read it. Read it. Right.

[A]

Anyway, phenotype is a term used to describe the observable characteristics of an organism, including its physical appearance, behavior and development. And then your phenotype can change over time due to environmental factors, even though your genotype, your genetic makeup, AKA remains the same. So yeah, your phenotype changes like phenotypic plasticity. That's what that. That's what that term is called phenotype. Phenotypic splasticity.

[B]

So examples of phenotype include height, eye color, hair color, blood type, behavior and presence or absence of certain diseases. So that's what I mean when I say your phenotype does change over time. Michael Jackson is someone whose phenotype changed drastically right in front of our eyes. We watched Michael Jackson fully, well, look like almost a completely different person.

[A]

I mean when I, when, when I found out my 90s. What by mid-90s he was already white.

[B]

Right in the 80s he was white.

[A]

So, so I didn't see his feelings. I changed this look the same to me all the time. But I did, but I never not knew that he wasn't black though. I always knew he was black. I don't know why. As opposed to Mariah Carey. I thought she was white, but I always knew Michael Jackson was black.

[B]

Well, I never, I didn't know Michael Jackson was black until I was maybe like eight.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, because I remember we were watching the Jackson 5 movie and I remember asking my mom like why is this? Because I knew, I knew that his sister was, was Janet Jackson and I knew I was also a child, so it just didn't register to me. But I knew that his sister was Janet Jackson. I knew who his parents were cuz they were always popping up and stuff. But it just never occurred to me. I was like, maybe he's adopted. I just, it just as a child I just was never thinking about why his family was black and he was white. You know what I mean? It's like when, it's like when I, it's like when, when a kid watches Brandy, Cinderella. No one is asking why her dad is Asian. Oh yeah, the mom's Asian and her dad's white. Everyone's like, yeah, it is, it is what it is. That was me as a kid, right? And then I was like, well why is this young? I was like, I remember asking my mom, why is this black kid playing Michael Jackson? And my mom was like, Michael Jackson's black. And I was like what?

[A]

Michael Blackson?

[B]

And she was like, Michael Jackson is black? And I was like, that does not make sense to me. And she was like he turned. And she was like, well he turned white, Ellie, what do you mean he turned white? And she's like, Chris, he just turned white. I don't know what to tell you. He turned white. And I was like, how? And she like he's kept getting lighter and lighter and then one day he was white. I was like, what is Happening. But even though Michael Jackson phenotypically looked white, that does not make him white. Michael Jackson was black until the day he died.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Even when he looked white, Michael Jackson was still black.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

And that was the conversation I was trying to have. And then. But then it went to tick tock debate land, which is you should. You should join me one time.

[A]

I'm not interested in debating people. I mean, if it was something I was really passionate about, you debate me.

[B]

You can't shut the fuck up when it comes to me.

[A]

Yeah, because you're often wrong. It was something that I wanted to really have to go in on. TikTok. I would, I would, I would. But I don't know what that conversation would be.

[B]

You would never join me for a Tina debate. Not even for fun. Not even for. Not even for one little moment.

[A]

Yeah. I had to be content upon what the topic is that I'm passionate about. Enough to argue and debate people about.

[B]

Well, then why don't you tell me?

[A]

Someone will come up with. It does not take too much to get you riled up.

[B]

Someone will call to call.

[A]

This guy, Cerulean Bob was like, no, it's. No, it's lapis. Like, no, it's really. If I was like, you get passionate about that, I would like. Okay. Anyway, moving on. I don't care.

[B]

I would love to see some of the energy here on this podcast. I would love to see some of the energy here on this podcast. I've never seen any evidence of that behavior.

[A]

Yeah, because you know what? Yeah, I'm passionate about what? I'm talking about that fucking work. You got me. Surprise. I'm at work.

[B]

I want to be clear, y', all, Monet does not turn this off when the podcast turns off. Monet can't lie to y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

But I've been there. We were. Yeah, we were sitting at the dinner table talking about the size of my hands. You're passionate about the size of my hands?

[A]

Yes, because of it has come on topic here on this podcast.

[B]

To be clear, we were not being paid.

[A]

Down, put down. Stop waving that big ass hand in front of the screen. So I'm clear.

[B]

To be clear, we were not paid to discuss the size of my hands. So in one day it's like, oh, so. So I've already poked three holes in your little theory. You don't have to be passionate. You don't even have to be getting paid. So now what's your next lie? What's the next lie you want to espouse to Our delightful listeners. Did I use that word properly?

[A]

Probably not.

[B]

I think I used it right. Espouse. Espouse means adopt or support. He turned his back on the modernism he has espoused in his youth. Yeah, I think I use it right.

[A]

Yeah. It's a little touch and go then.

[B]

Would you like to use espouse properly?

[A]

I don't know what the word means.

[B]

I just. I literally just read it to you.

[A]

Read it again, nigga.

[B]

Adopt or support a cause, belief or way of life.

[A]

You know, I have espoused Christianity because I feel like it has really made my life better, smarter, greater, and more decent than yours.

[B]

Which one of us is more likely to convert to Christianity before we pass away?

[A]

Probably me, honestly. But I don't think I would convert in the way that you do, though. I feel like if you converted to Christianity, you would be up in the thing leading sermons. You would convert to Christianity so you could become a pastor and lead a church, and I would do it, and I would just come to church once a week. You would convert. Try to. Try to be the deacon, the pastor. That's what you would do.

[B]

I'd be the deacon and the pastor and the first lady and the usher.

[A]

That is something you would try to do. So Monet and I, if we were like, a thousand years ago, I could see you trying to start a religion. If we're like, if I wanted to,

[B]

I went today if I want to.

[A]

You 100%. That is so you.

[B]

I want to say that Monet and I went to the Madison Square Garden theater to see a wonderful production of Annie. Oh, good. So Monet had never seen Annie before.

[A]

I seen, like, clips from the movies. Like the Carol Burnett movie, namely. I didn't. Bob said there were four of them. I didn't know the only one. I've seen three.

[B]

Well, I know of three. There's Kathy Bates, Carol Burnett and Cameron Diaz.

[A]

I didn't see that one. All I saw was only the Cameron. The Carol Burnett one, which is a brilliant movie. Carol Burnett is so good.

[B]

So you didn't support Kvasne Wallace?

[A]

I don't know. Devozne Khasane.

[B]

She was the black Annie.

[A]

Kvassier Kavangenet. Kavangenet who? The little girl who played Annie in the Carol Burnett movie. Like, where is she now? Does she still do Susie? I wonder. You mean Susie Carol.

[B]

If Annie were a real person, she'd be 102 years old, 103 years old this year, because Annie was born in 1922. Has it been a while?

[A]

Her name was. Oh, Eileen Quinn.

[B]

Did she go on to do more stuff?

[A]

Let's see. Eileen quinn movies and TV shows. She did the Frog Prince in 1986. The wizard of Oz. Oh, she's in the wizard of Oz. It's a cartoon.

[B]

But who was she? Dorothy.

[A]

Oh, she's Dorothy in it.

[B]

But she came back. Oh, no. Carol Burnett is just a documentary. She was on Will and Grace in

[A]

2020 and she was in multiple sarcasms in 2010. Oh, Jacob, pull it up here.

[B]

So how did you. So as a New Yorker, how did you feel about Annie? Did you relate to Annie? Were you like, I love this part. This tough New York City kid.

[A]

No, I was not. I did not have an Annie experience. I wasn't an orphan in New York City. I was an orphan in St. Lucia.

[B]

But like, the toughness of her, like, the toughness.

[A]

But this Annie wasn't tough. The Annie in the movie that we. In the 19, the Carol Burnett movie, that was a tough Annie. She was like going up to the girl, she's like, I'll give you a knuckle sandwich. This Annie, she wasn't that aggressive. That Annie was me.

[B]

Carol Burnett. Annie ran a very tight ship. Those girls, she had those girls shook.

[A]

Yeah, she had them scared. Shook. Panicking mannequin, those fucking. Also those, those girls in that Annie, in the Annie movie, these bitches were gymnasts. They were washing the floor, doing aerials, somersaults, doing bath flips.

[B]

Like. And that.

[A]

The choreo in that movie is so.

[B]

Well, those are. Those people doing backflips were probably adults. So during the show, I kept telling there, there was a bunch of orphans on stage. And then there's this one, there's this one. And I. And I kept. And I kept being like, that's a grown woman. And Monet was like, no, I said, mon, that is a fully grown woman.

[A]

I was like, no, Bob, maybe she's like, maybe 13, 14. She's not a grown woman.

[B]

And I don't know when they do they do this often, they will cast one very young looking adult to be with the kids, just to kind of keep them on track. And like, if the kids ever, like feel shaky and choreography, they can look over and see when. When like older professional dancer doing it. Right. But then we went backstage to talk to Whoopi Goldberg after the show. And then unprovoked, we were talking about the orphans and how great they were. Like, man, these kids are great. And then Whoopi goes, yeah, there's one 25 year old woman in there dancing.

[A]

I was like, what? I was like, so y'. All.

[B]

Sometimes Monet chooses not to believe stuff just because I said it.

[A]

If that's true.

[B]

I have tested this theory before without you knowing it. Monet can have another person say, I will have another person say something. And then when I'd be like, that's when.

[A]

When was this?

[B]

I'm not going to tell you my sources.

[A]

Anyway, it didn't happen.

[B]

Just know that me and the people around you, we collude against you.

[A]

Just know that what it is that oftentimes we see in the podcast, Bob says something is not true. So I'm just not going to believe. And not with you.

[B]

It's not true. That's you.

[A]

Not with any of my friends. I don't just take things when someone says something, I'm like, oh, that could be true. There are also many times when you said something, like many examples of you saying something. I'm like, okay, I just believe you. Like last episode, talking about some Lisa Kudrow made post its or whatever, I was like, okay, sure. That is not true. I didn't argue against. Because you said it.

[B]

If it sounds like it was a reference to the movie Roman Rachel High School Reunion, her character said that she invented post Its.

[A]

It was a reference. I don't know. But I walked away from that conversation thinking, oh, Lisa Kudra invented postage. She would have work like I said, no. So there is. There is proof of me not just saying that because I.

[B]

If it's. Wait, how long did you go around believing Lisa Kudrow invented poses?

[A]

You just say, how Wong.

[B]

How long did you go around thinking Lisa Kudrow Adventure posters?

[A]

A few days now. The episode came out like a week ago.

[B]

You never see Romeo High School. Romeo's High School Reunion? No, I haven't. So in the movie, Lisa Cudjoe's character has not done a lot with her life, and she's embarrassed that she hasn't done a lot with her life. She's just like, embarrassed by not accomplishing a lot. And everyone's going to hospital reunion. And then they're like, what have you done? And she was like. And then she randomly lied and goes, I invented Post Its. And everyone's like, what? She goes, yeah, I fully invented post Its. And then at the party, I think maybe Alan Cummings character, someone was. Someone got around. They were like, tell us how you invented post Its. And then randomly she actually, like, scientifically explained the process of. Of creating an adhesive that would stick to this. But unstick from that without leaving a residue. And then everyone's like, oh, yeah, we believe you. You must have invented post its. And then she was kinda like, phew.

[A]

Have you ever seen the episode of Sex and the City when Carrie gets broken up with by a post it?

[B]

A post? No. No. Was it Big Daddy?

[A]

Did he write on a post it Mr. Big? No.

[B]

Oh, Mr. Big.

[A]

Yeah. It was some other guy she was fucking and he was like, sorry, I can't. Don't hate me. It was Burger. I don't know what. I don't know the actor's name. His name is Zack Berger or Jack Burger.

[B]

Before I. Before we end this podcast, can you please. I've. I've never. I've only seen one episode of Sex and City. Can you tell me who I'm supposed to be in Sex and City?

[A]

You're definitely, without a shadow of a doubt, unequivocally, you're Miranda. 100%.

[B]

Can you tell me a little bit about Miranda?

[A]

Miranda's a lesbian. She's a lawyer. She is. So she's very methodical, very pragmatic, but that leads to a lot of love loss because she's almost too cerebral when she. She can't just let herself just be in love. She's just, like, so trying to, like, break it down. Like every little thing that. That her partner does, she kind of nitpicks at it and it leaves her going back and forth and they get married in the end, but then she becomes a lesbian in the movies. I mean, in the chat.

[B]

Comment below. Tell me, do you think I'm a Miranda now? Monet doesn't really watch Golden Girls. And I say this, but Monet does not believe me. Monet is.

[A]

That is a Bob outfit. That's Miranda.

[B]

Monet is Rose Nylan from Golden Girls.

[A]

Why am I Rose? Can you tell me more about Rose?

[B]

So she's a little ditzy. She. She's. Sometimes. She's not as quick on the pickup as the other girls are, but she also has a very cheery disposition. She leads with happiness and kindness. She has an innocence and sweetness to her, but she can also still be quite biting when it. When it comes down to it.

[A]

So you think I'm stupid? I'm a stupid. Happy.

[B]

Not as intense as Rose Nyland Rosen is, like, doesn't know anything. Like, not nothing, but, like, she knows a lot about. Really. She knows a lot about, like, pig farming and small towns and what's the name of her town in

[A]

her town's called Andalusia, Alabama.

[B]

No, Jeff, you Google the name of Rosen Islands Town. It's called Oz. I can't remember it, but she knows a lot about, like, farm life and that kind of stuff. But she. But she doesn't have a lot of worldly smarts outside of that, you know what I mean? Even though St. Olaf. Yeah, they were to say Olaf. I think she's a librarian. I think. I think Rose is a librarian. I'm almost positive she's librarian. She ended up losing her job down the line anyway, so. Comment below. Am I Miranda. Is Monet Rose Nyland? What's Miranda's last name? Cosgrove.

[A]

No. Miranda Hobbs.

[B]

Hobbs. Do you know Miranda Cosgrove?

[A]

No.

[B]

That's icarly.

[A]

Oh. I wasn't an art car. I wasn't. I was not an icarly girl. It was after my time.

[B]

Yeah, I'm a little long the tooth for icarly. Well, Monet. No, I was saying I was wrapping it up. You weren't wrapping it up.

[A]

The great conversation.

[B]

I was wrapping it up.

[A]

You enjoy your break? I was wrapping it up, whatever it was. I'll see you.

[B]

I'm wrapping this up. Thank you, everyone.

[A]

Hopefully, I don't see the new year. Honestly.

[B]

It is the new year, bitch.

[A]

I know. And hopefully I don't see you in it.

[B]

We can make that happen for sure.

[A]

How?

[B]

Have you blinded. And that's how you won't see me in the new year. Goodbye, everyone.

[A]

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