The One Where Monet was Cast on All Stars

Summary

Sibling Rivalry Podcast

Episode: The One Where Monet Was Cast On All Stars
Date: August 3, 2022
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

This episode marks a pivotal and hilarious moment: Monét X Change has just been officially cast on the long-rumored “All Winners” season of Drag Race All Stars (filmed before Monét knew anything beyond her own casting). In classic Sibling Rivalry fashion, Bob and Monét speculate wildly—and hysterically—about the cast, potential drama, strategies, and what it's like to go through casting secrecy. The tone is playful, messy, and deeply honest, capturing the duo’s dynamic at its best. Listeners get exclusive insight into Monét’s pre-season mindset, Bob’s opinions as an “excluded” winner, and the two queens riffing about everything from show strategy to Drag Race’s ever-increasing demands.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Announcement & Secrecy (00:44 – 03:12)

• Monét reveals she's been officially cast but doesn’t know the cast or season details yet.
• Both hosts riff on Drag Race NDA culture and what would happen if RuPaul found them leaking spoilers.
• Notable: Bob gives the exact date and context for the recording—heightening the “pre-season time capsule” feel.

2. Speculating the Cast: Season-by-Season (03:12 – 18:50)

• The duo runs through potential All Winners contestants, sharing their predictions, shady commentary, and strategic thoughts.
  • Raja: “I think people are sleeping on her… Raja is going to do very fucking well.” (03:17 – Bob)
  • Jinkx Monsoon: Highlighted as Monét’s “biggest competition” due to her all-around talents (04:42 onward).
  • Chad Michaels, Violet Chachki, Sasha Velour, Aquaria, Yvie Oddly, and many more are discussed, with lots of Messy Queen banter.
  • For international winners (like Priyanka, The Vivienne, Envy Peru), Bob and Monét discuss the difficulty of judging competition based on limited viewing of global franchises.

Memorable Quotes

• “They told me not to tell anyone. I just couldn't tell anyone. I couldn't.” – Monet, joking about Bob being a secret cast member (08:41)
• “I want to be the very best, that no one ever was.” – Bob, in a tongue-in-cheek Pokémon reference about Drag Race ambitions (17:51)

3. Strategies & Season Format Predictions (14:34 – 18:50)

• Monét discusses how she'll approach the competition after becoming a Survivor superfan.
• “I am playing this shit strategically. I am sending Jinx Monsoon home the first day.” (14:36 – Monét)
• Bob doubts Monét’s “cutthroat” abilities, saying she’s too congenial in the workroom (15:23).

4. Speculation on Season Format, Prize Money, and Drag Race Trends (23:33 – 25:54)

• Bob and Monét discuss what the prize money should be for an All Winners season:

  • Bob: “They need to give y'all motherfuckers a million fucking dollars, bitch.” (24:33)
  • Monét: “500k minimum.” (24:24)

• They also talk about the ramping-up of social media expectations for queens, referencing the elaborate photo and video shoots by girls like Kim Chi and Symone.

5. Preparing for the Competition: Runways, Snatch Game, and Talent Show (27:24 – 38:08)

• Monét shares about prepping for Snatch Game, tossing around ideas like Whoopi Goldberg or Mike Tyson as her characters.
  • Bob critiques Monét’s previous choices and auditions, recommending Whoopi/ Mike over Nene Leakes or Whitney Houston. (35:13 – 36:32)
  • They reflect on “bad” Snatch Game performances and how to recover.
• The hosts also talk about talent show ideas and memorable entrance lines for Monét.
  • Bob: “If you walk in and say it looks like the exchange rate just went up and you shoot off money guns… that would be everything.” (42:04)

6. Who’s Fierce, Who’s Not: Top 3 Predictions (22:25 – 29:02 & 41:43 – 43:06)

• Both repeatedly state Jinkx Monsoon and The Vivienne as Monét’s biggest potential rivals.
  • Monét: “Viv is really funny. Really beautiful. Her makeup is amazing.” (27:55 – Monét)
• Bob doesn’t see Trinity as making it to the final top group with Monét.

7. Production Logistics & Documentation (23:33 – End)

• The podcast will serve as a multi-part “diary” of Monét’s journey through the All Winners experience, with follow-ups planned post-filming and post-airdate.
• Bob and Monét talk behind-the-scenes realities of Drag Race contracts, NDA negotiating, and how public queens can/should review their own seasons.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the missed opportunity of Bob and Monét both being cast:
  • “I feel like it is a huge missed opportunity for them to not cast you and me on the same season together.” – Monét (01:23)
• On the reality of the winner castlist:
  • “Not all the winners are there. I know that. And Bob is one of the winners not there.” – Monét (01:34)
• Shade about “missed” queens:
  • “Imagine a world where you go home before her… Grandma’s sitting pretty.” – Bob, about Chad Michaels (06:57)
• Jinkx as the top competitor:
  • “Do not underestimate her.” – Bob (06:03)
• Drag Race strategic gameplay:
  • “I am playing this shit strategically. I am sending Jinx Monsoon home the first day.” – Monét (14:36)
• Prize money talk:
  • “That is the—that’s an almost insulting minimum for the winner of the winner season. They need to give y’all motherfuckers a million fucking dollars, bitch.” – Bob (24:24)
• Entrance line planning:
  • “It looks like the exchange rate just went up.” – Bob (42:04)
• Podcast meta moment:
  • “We are documenting Monet’s journey as she goes back for the Drag Race Superstars, which I’m calling it.” – Bob (44:34)

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Structure and Segments (Timestamps)

• 00:44 – 03:12: Opening banter; “All Winners” announcement; secrecy jokes
• 03:12 – 18:50: Cast speculation season by season; shade, rumors, and who’s in/out
• 14:34 – 18:50: Strategies, gameplay, how the rules might differ
• 18:50 – 23:25: International winners; who could compete and the challenges of watching global Drag
• 23:33 – 25:54: Drag Race trends, social media, and prize money expectations
• 27:24 – 38:08: Snatch Game/Runway/talent show prep; behind-the-scenes anxieties/planning
• 41:43 – 43:03: How other contestants might (under)estimate Monét
• 44:16 – 45:06: Podcasting logistics; plans for ongoing documentation

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Episode Tone & Character

This episode is quintessential Sibling Rivalry: chaotic, filled with zippy one-liners, personal jabs, open strategizing, and biting honesty. Bob is the ever-shady cheerleader, alternately boosting and critiquing Monét, while Monét is a blend of excited, nervous, and ready to compete. The banter is loose but rooted in deep friendship and drag expertise.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode captures lightning in a bottle: behind-the-scenes reality; wry, unfiltered queen-to-queen honesty; predictions that are often tongue-in-cheek but grounded in Drag Race lore; and an exclusive snapshot of a major Drag Race milestone before it hits the airwaves. Whether you’re a superfan, a casual viewer, or just love good-natured best friend shade, this installment is as candid as pre-competition podcasting gets.

Transcript

[A]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen,

[B]

and I'm Monet X Change, and this is sibling rivalry.

[A]

So, Bob, this is illegal. We're not supposed to be doing this. I'm not supposed to.

[B]

I know. This is mad fucking illegal. What if.

[A]

What if.

[B]

What if Ru, like, calls us and be like, you fucking black bitches.

[A]

I feel like I can't hear you over the oil rig.

[B]

He was like, frack you, Bob.

[A]

So I can. Okay, it's finally happening. There is finally an all winter season. Girl, you have not gone yet. So just so you guys know, if you're listening to this, it's obviously after the season has already ended and everything, but this was recorded before Monet even got the list of what's on. And all Monet knows is she's cast. That's it.

[B]

Yeah. At this point, I know I'm cast. They did my background check, and that's all I know. I'm not sure who's on. I mean, I have some inklings of who. I mean, I know who is not on. And honestly, one of the biggest gags is that Bob is not on there. I feel like before even going. I don't know what the tea is. It isn't all winter season. But not all the winners are there. I know that. And Bob is one of the winners. Not there. And I feel like it is a huge missed opportunity for them to not cast you and me on the same season together.

[A]

Well, I mean, it is what it is. You know, outside on the Drag Race, a lot of people don't see us as a duo. They see Trix and Kaiser. They're from the same season. But a lot of people outside of Drag Race just don't know that you and I are best friends and that we are a duo. You know what I mean? So just for everyone, it is March 23rd of 2021. That is the current date. It is 7:36pm Pacific Time, 10:36 Eastern Time. And. And we are just basically getting. Okay, let's. We have a. These are our suspicions of who we think will be there when Monet gets there. Okay.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah, we.

[A]

Okay, let's go all the way through America. We don't think. I don't think Bibi's gonna be there.

[B]

I don't think so either.

[A]

Okay. 2. I don't think James is gonna be there.

[B]

I mean, but maybe.

[A]

What if, though? What if you walked through the front door, then James was there? I. Oh, my God. That would be the gag of the century.

[B]

And also, if she is There. She should walk in, and she should walk in and go.

[A]

Well, James uses he pronouns these days.

[B]

James should walk in and go, boom.

[A]

Okay, season three, I think Ra' Jah's gonna be there.

[B]

Yeah. I think Raj is gonna be there as well.

[A]

And I think people are sleeping on her. I think Raj is going to do very fucking well. You're. You're sleeping on her.

[B]

I think Raja's going to Roger a little bit. Well, that's only because, again, and I love Raja. Bob's favorite thing. When you. When. When you. When you say, I love this queen so much.

[A]

I love her. I really love her. Really terrible looks. Love. No.

[B]

I did a tour with Raja, and I will say I was a little surprised by some of the stuff Raja did, especially because I have such reverence. Raja. Raja is one of the reasons I fell in love with Drag Race on season three. I was like, this is the gold standard. This bitch is literally everything.

[A]

Well, the question is, how much was on the line? Like, how much was on the line? How much was you getting paid? But how much was the check? You and me both know the reflection of the check reflect the quality you get.

[B]

For me, I mean, I don't know what. I don't know what she negotiated for her stuff, but I know I was getting a nice check.

[A]

Okay. So I think she. I think she's. You think she's going to be a big competition.

[B]

I think she's going to be good competition. I don't know about great competition.

[A]

Okay, then. I don't think Sharon Needles is going to be there. I think that they would be.

[B]

I don't think so either.

[A]

Remiss. It'd be not remiss. I think they'd be. She's really problematic, and I don't know that she's great for that kind of stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think Jinx is going to be there, and I think Jinx will be your biggest competition. I think Jinx is the bitch you need to look out for, like, 1000% drunk monster. Jinx Monsoon is like, she's just so. She really is insanely talented. What do you think she'll excel?

[B]

I think Jinx will excelling acting challenges and singing challenges. I don't know if there is some type of crafting, sewing thing. I don't know how well she do there, and I don't know how that's really it. That's the only downfall I see with Jinx. I think Jinx is very funny. She'll do great in comedy things. She'll be great in acting, things like drinks is great.

[A]

I don't think people sleep on Jinx's ability to have great looks. I think that people think they Jinx is going to be bringing crunchy looks. But I think y' all will really be gagged. I really think y' all cannot keep judging queens based on what you saw them doing on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[B]

I don't think people are judging queens on what they saw on Drag Race. They're judging queens on what they see today.

[A]

That's not the. Oh, so people don't judge you on what they see on Drag Race. No one ever judged you based on what they see on Drag Race. When people call you the kitty cat girl or say that you have crunchy looks.

[B]

For me. Specifically for me. You said people.

[A]

You didn't say me. You said people.

[B]

Okay, well, people being myself.

[A]

Person is what you mean to say. Yeah, I think that. I think people are gonna gag at how. I mean, don't underestimate. I'm just saying right now, Monet. Do not underestimate G. Oh, no.

[B]

She.

[A]

Don't be thinking like, oh, she's not gonna bring another runaway. Cause she might fuck y'. Like, do not underestimate her.

[B]

I didn't say that. We're gonna run away. I didn't say that. You just said that, Monet.

[A]

Okay, now we're on the podcast. The tune is changing, honey. Now that we're recording, Monet's giving a whole. Monet's, like, I think they're all fierce competitors. I did not say that. We can be there. All right, Season six, Bianca Del Rio.

[B]

No, I don't think.

[A]

Yeah, Bianca De Rio is more than likely not gonna be there. I could not see her doing it. Oh, All Stars won. Chad Michaels.

[B]

Yes, I see doing it.

[A]

I can see her being there.

[B]

I would do it.

[A]

Is she gonna go far?

[B]

No, drag her.

[A]

Why do. Why not?

[B]

I mean, I've watched Monet.

[A]

You realize we haven't. We're releasing this after. Imagine a world where you go home before her and this is. And you be like, no, I don't see it. Grandma's sitting pretty.

[B]

If I'm not going back in being the most confident I am in myself and my abilities, then, bitch, then why the fuck am I going Then if that's the case, I should stay my black ass home.

[A]

I'm not saying confident yourself. I'm saying not confident in Chad Michaels. First of all, you would never be an All Star if it wasn't for Chad Michaels being an All Star first.

[B]

Oh, my God, you're so ridiculous. Let's make that clear. It's been a long time since I've seen season four or All Stars one, but I just haven't seen much of Chad, so I just don't know what she's been up to or what her capabilities are. Was she good at acting challenges her season?

[A]

Yeah, she did a great Snatch Game. Her Snatch Game was phenomenal.

[B]

So she would. Cher.

[A]

Yeah. She did do a problematic character in the political campaign. Up.

[B]

Do updo.

[A]

Yeah. It wasn't. It wasn't blackface, but it wasn't. Wasn't.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It wasn't. Not. Anyway.

[B]

Black fishing.

[A]

I do think that Chad Michaels, you know, was a really fierce competitor. I do have a hard time seeing it for her on. On the Superstars or whatever. Whatever they're calling it. Okay, season seven. Who is Violet Chachki?

[B]

I don't think Violet is doing it.

[A]

What if we get the cast 100% right? Will you gag if we, like, literally nail it and we know every single person? That would be so wild. So wild. All right, Season eight, Bob the Drag Queen. Do you think Bob the Drag Queen will be there?

[B]

Okay, I have a suspicion Bob is saying that he has not gotten the call. Y' all know this motherfucker is so sneaky and conniving. I would not be shocked if I walked in and Bob is sitting there like Monet. You know Monet. They told me not to tell anyone. I just couldn't tell anyone. I couldn't.

[A]

Oh, I wouldn't say. I would just laugh when you walked in the door. I wouldn't say. They told me. I'd be like, you broke bum bitch. Come to me for a hangout. Well, we know the season eight winner is not gonna be there. All Stars du.

[B]

No. Oh, Stu. Alaska. I mean, I think Alaska would, but I don't think Alaska will be there.

[A]

So it seems like they're trying to maybe, like, also full tea. Monet and I kind of talked to a couple girls we didn't talk to. Now, to be fair, we have not talked to everyone, but we ain't talking to a couple of girls we kind of know.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And. Okay. All Stars 3.

[B]

No, no, no. Season nine.

[A]

Oh, season nine. Sasha Velour. We've not spoken to Sasha Velour. I've not spoken to Sasha. I don't know when it happens.

[B]

I have not either.

[A]

And I don't think she'll go.

[B]

I don't think she'll go either.

[A]

All right, season 10, aquaria.

[B]

I don't think Aquaria will be there.

[A]

I've not spoken to Aquaria personally. I know that's your season 10 sister, but I have not spoken to her, and I don't think that she's gonna be going either. Have you spoken to Aquaria? We can't. We can't break other people's. Honestly, we. Season 11, Evelyn Audley.

[B]

Evelyn. Oddly, I think Yvie might be there.

[A]

You think so?

[B]

I could see her going back.

[A]

Yeah, I can see Yvie going. Will Yvie go far?

[B]

I don't remember season 11, and I'm not being shady. Season 11, to me was not like a grunt. I don't remember watching season like, oh, my God. These the. Like, I can't remember her being a standout in, like, any acting or comedy stuff. Did she win? She didn't win Snatch Game, did she?

[A]

No, she did very poorly at Snatch Game. She was Whoopi Gold.

[B]

She was Whoopi Whoopee. Right? So I don't know. I don't know what Evie will excel at, but also.

[A]

Okay, Eevee likes to fight this. Likes to. What you gonna do if that come for you? What you gonna do?

[B]

I'm eat the Molly, wipe that creepy.

[A]

And Crawley's over.

[B]

And, you know, I'm a fucking Mollywop. That fucking Colorado bitch. I'm a fucking Nate.

[A]

You'll be like, I'm sorry, Evelyn.

[B]

I'mma take that bitch knee and twist it behind her back and push it down her throat.

[A]

That's what I'm gonna do again. This has aired well after the season has finished airing. So at this point, Monet has already been in three fights with Yvie. Yvie had put Monet in the hospital.

[B]

No, I think we should put this out when the cast is announced.

[A]

I mean, we'll see. This is. We should put this out when you

[B]

get your money from winning.

[A]

Yeah, we'll figure it out. Listen, we'll release it when we release it. All right, Jacob.

[B]

That's right, Jacob. That's why I fucked with Jacob.

[A]

They don't know what Jacob just said. You have to tell them what he said.

[B]

Oh, Jacob was like, you should put us out when they give you your check for winning. I was like, that's right. That's a good idea.

[A]

Season All Stars 3. Do you think Trinity the Tuck Taylor will be there?

[B]

You mean Trixie Mattel?

[A]

Oh, whatever.

[B]

Do you think Trixie Bomb. Not all white people look the same.

[A]

Oh, my God. I thought that you do. I thought you were. You know, I get the 3 and 4 whatever. It doesn't matter. All Stars. The numbers are a little bit off anyway. Trixie Mattel, yes or no?

[B]

No, Trixie will not be there.

[A]

Yeah. Trixie has publicly said that she does not like competing. Like, it is really not for her. Despite being. Despite doing Drag Race twice. Competing is not her competition.

[B]

Super secret Celebrity Drag Race once. And Bob and I being on the same cast with. And she literally could not even get that right.

[A]

Okay, so drag race season 12.

[B]

No. All Stars 4. Bob.

[A]

Oh, my God. Excuse me. Okay, Trinity finally. Do you think Trinity the Tuck will be there?

[B]

I think Trinity will be there.

[A]

What is that gonna be like? Like, is there gonna be a thing where people keep comparing you two to each other, do you think?

[B]

I'm sure. I'm sure that's gonna be a storyline they're gonna try to push forward of, like, the two of us battling for the real crown or the crown. I'm sure.

[A]

Are you going to work to, like, separate yourself from Trinity or. Or just.

[B]

We're already separate. We're already separate.

[A]

Don't talk no more.

[B]

No, no, no. I'm saying T.R. and I do not do anywhere near the same type of thing.

[A]

So you do talk. So you talk to her often?

[B]

I don't talk. I have not spoken to Trinity for. Since, like. So you don't speak since, like, September of 2020.

[A]

So y' all don't talk anymore.

[B]

My God, you're so bad. Well, when I do a podcast with you, when you keep on saying things like, she devil by night podcast, it makes it hard. It makes it hard.

[A]

Okay, well, you said. I didn't say nothing. That's your. That's your superstar's buddy. You've been on two seasons of Drag Race with her. Do you think she'll be tough competition?

[B]

I think Trinity is a very good competitor. I see Trinity.

[A]

Trinity, you would know better than anybody.

[B]

Yeah, Trinity is a great competitor for sure.

[A]

Is she going to be in the top?

[B]

I think so work, but I don't see them putting both of us in the top again. I don't see that happening.

[A]

Who knows? Who knows? I mean, so you're saying you think they're gonna be rigging it? I'm talking based on, like, skill. Cause, you know, a lot of it is also, you know. You know, this All Stars is a lot of what the girls are choosing. The girls are just choosing shit amongst themselves. The girls are eliminating people. The girls are sending bitches home, voting for people, bringing bitches.

[B]

I'll tell you something.

[A]

If you.

[B]

Y' all know, I'm the Survivor queen now. I am playing this shit strategically. I am sending home if I get a chance. I am sending Jinx Monsoon home the. The first day.

[A]

Monet, you would never. I'm calling her. I swear to God I have what it takes to Monetize. Monet is very nice. Monet is so sweet. Monet be talking about. She's about that life. But then it will come down to. And the sugar will come out of that grundle and Monet will be like, I couldn't Jinx. I couldn't.

[B]

No.

[A]

Monet's gonna be like, I want to beat the best so I can be the best. That's what Monet's gonna be.

[B]

I'm not saying that I am. I swear to God, if I get the chance, I will send my biggest homage, which would be, in my opinion. Well, let's. Let's talk about everyone else. We'll talk about who the coolest.

[A]

And I'm just saying now, Monet will do nothing underhanded. Monet is going to. Monet's going to be Miss Congeniality. She's gonna be the most like Monet gonna play by the rules. Monet's gonna hold hands. Monet's gonna bake cookies and bring them in for people. Monae, you are not nasty like that. And that's why I love you, because you're not nasty like that. Okay? If there were two of me in this friendship, we wouldn't be able to make it.

[C]

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[A]

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[C]

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[A]

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[C]

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[B]

I think you're judging me. You're talking about Monet before she started watching Survivor. This Monet's Different. She hit different.

[A]

If you and Nick, y' all don't know, Monet and my friend Nick are both obsessed. Sometimes Nick calls me about Survivor, like, bitch, I'm not the one that watches Survivor with you. I don't know what the fuck you talking about. All right, All Stars 5.

[B]

Jada. Jada. SFR.

[A]

Drag Race Season 12. It's hard to do the All Stars and thing. I get a little mixed up. All right, Drag Race Season 12, Jada. Ss Hall. Is she going to be there? Yes or no?

[B]

I think Jada will, but I was like, why would she go back so soon? She literally.

[A]

Why did you go back so soon? Why did you go back so soon, Bob?

[B]

It's been two years since I've been on.

[A]

When you went back, bitch, you did Drag Race, and you went right back.

[B]

Because I had some. I had something to prove. I didn't win anything. I had. I knew that I could win something.

[A]

I mean, maybe Jada has something to prove, too.

[B]

What? She just won the crown.

[A]

Maybe she wants to prove that she's the best one, that she's the fucking best. Maybe she wants to prove that, you

[B]

know, I want to be the very best that no one ever was.

[A]

Okay, real question is, is Simone going to be there? No, I'm kidding. We were filming this. We were filming this way before the finale of drag race season 13. I don't know if Symone won. I'm assuming she did. Okay. Monet and I have suspicions that there's gonna be some international royalty in the house. So do you think Priyanka's gonna be there?

[B]

I think Priyanka's gonna be there. Yeah. Priyanka.

[A]

Ms. Peronka. How is Priyanka gonna do, though? How is she gonna do? I don't know. You know, trash like her. When Monet goes up in inflection and acts like she doesn't have any opinions, that means she thinks you're garbage. I'm translating for y' all right now. I don't know. I mean, you know, it could be. It could go either way. And I just. I feel like she's had so many talents and she's. There's so many great things about her.

[B]

No, she was good in her season, but I think.

[A]

Name two good things she did since you think she was good.

[B]

She did that little. That little black and the blue and orange Runway.

[A]

What was good about it? What's. What did she do in the challenge that was good? Like, what did she do in the challenge that you thought was Good. You lying ass bitch. You a lion ass. You do not think she's a good drag queen. I caught you.

[B]

Okay,

[A]

Monet is canceled.

[B]

Their season was a long time ago. I don't remember, but I do remember her doing long ago.

[A]

It was during quarantine. It was less than a year. It was. Yes, it was less than a year ago, girl. Drag Race Canada season one was during quarantine. Monet, you are so Monet. Just say you don't think she's competition so we can move on.

[B]

That's not true. I think she is competition.

[A]

Wait, is everybody. So everyone's competition now? Everyone's competition.

[B]

Oh, you know what? She was good, really good in, like, the second episode when I had to, like, write and perform those songs.

[A]

She was very good.

[B]

Her lyrics.

[A]

What were her lyrics? Name. Like, just say one word. Just give me one word that was in her.

[B]

Hey, I'm a girl. Hey, I'm a girl. Denali, you do not know. You don't know.

[A]

Monet. You literally don't know anything. Re could be on this. In this zoom room, and you wouldn't know who the she was. You do not know any.

[C]

This.

[A]

You are. This is the messiest, most illegal podcast we've ever done.

[B]

Okay, keep moving.

[A]

Do we think that the Vivian is going to be there?

[B]

Oh, I think the Vivian will be there, and she's fierce competition.

[A]

I feel like if they. If they end up doing. If they end up doing this, they won't be able to film in America.

[B]

Why? I'm sure they're going to. They're going to work it out that you. That they probably can. I don't know.

[A]

I mean, I. Yeah, I mean, I know that there's also another thing they're trying to do, and they're filming that overseas anyway.

[B]

Yeah, but.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Do you think that the winner drag. Do you think Natalia Playa Kam is going to be there? Or maybe Playacam from Drag Race Thailand? From Drag Race Thailand?

[B]

Oh, maybe. I think so. I think they're going to bring the international winners for sure.

[A]

And how about Angeli Anang, who is also from Thailand?

[B]

From Thailand, probably. And definitely Envy Peru.

[A]

And I believe Angeliang is. I might be wrong. I don't want to misquote, but I believe she is the only Drag Race winner who identifies as a trans woman.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I think. But I might be wrong. I mean, I also don't know how everyone else identifies, obviously.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But yeah, so.

[B]

So let's.

[A]

Those. Those are all. And obviously, I mean, it's a Little early, but we might as well ask Lawrence Chaney. Will Laurence Chaney be there?

[B]

She's too soon. No way. There's no way. She's just. No.

[A]

Now, I have not seen. I don't. I also don't know Holland. I've not seen Holland. I've seen a few episodes of Thailand. It is very hard for me to watch things with subtitles I read really slowly. But there's a chance that Holland and Thailand, I mean, Holland might show up as well.

[B]

Yeah. And that's Envy Peru.

[A]

Envy Peru. I mean, who do you. So you think your biggest competition is still Jinx? Out of all those people? Jinx, Monsoon. I think the Vivian is great, too.

[B]

I was gonna say I think the Vivian, Trinity and Jinx are the biggest competition.

[A]

Are you gonna win?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Who's the top. Who's the top three?

[B]

Top three. Myself, Jinx, Vivian, now Monat.

[A]

If this. Now, listen, if this whole. We, no matter what. We, no matter what. We haven't released this podcast.

[B]

No, we're putting this out.

[A]

The fuck matter what.

[B]

We're putting this out.

[A]

So what we're doing is we're doing a three part series. The first cat podcast is literally just. All we know is that Monet's cast. We don't know anything.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

I'm on a. Doing the podcast. Sorry, I was doing the podcast. Send. Boom. So all we know is that Monet is cast on Superstars. We don't even know the name of it. And we don't know anything else about it.

[B]

I don't have the Runway looks. I don't have anything. I don't know. We don't know who's there.

[A]

We have suspicions. We don't know anything.

[B]

There may be Snatch Game. There may not be Snatch Game. I don't know.

[A]

Next episode we're gonna be doing Monet Is Right. When she gets back. When Monet gets back. When she lands. Actually, bitch, you can tell them you'll fly out of LAX in a few days. You'll come over to my place.

[B]

Well, okay. Well, here's the thing, Bob. Should we do. We should do one right before I leave and we can talk about, like, you helping me with my Snatch Game and, like, my runways and that stuff.

[A]

So we do a four part then right when Monet leaves, right when she gets back. And then after it's all done, we'll do a wrap up like, how did it go, girl? How did it go? What do you think the prize money's gonna be?

[B]

I don't know, but it better not be $100,000. It better not be.

[A]

And it better not be 200% and it better not be. They better not walk in with 200,000 dol. Hundred thousand being like, this is enough. In my opinion, at the 500k minimum, it needs to be $500,000. That is the.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

And that is the. That's an almost insulting minimum for the winner of the winter season. They need to give y' all motherfuckers a million fucking dollars, bitch.

[B]

And y' all on Viacom, CBS on, like, it needs to be a million dollars.

[A]

Are you gonna make up another excuse or are you just leaving this time? Did you make an excuse when you went to All Stars or did you

[B]

just go, I mean, to like, my personal friends? I just said I was going to, like a family thing, but, like, I'm not gonna do a social media. I'm just gonna. Just not post. Okay, bitch, I don't post for a month now.

[A]

These season fucking 12 girls or season 13 girls, the stuff they're doing on social is. We used to do it. We used to like, go to a green screen and do a photo shoot. These bitches are going on locations, they're making music. I mean, I. You know who I blame for this? Your homeg.

[B]

U haul.

[A]

U haul did those crazy videos for every one of her looks. I don't know if you remember that, but you, you did these really intricate green screen videos.

[B]

Weren't intricate.

[A]

I thought they were quite intricate and I thought they were really well done. It. It was the most any girl had done. I. I don't know if it's true. I feel like Kim was the first girl to document every single one of her looks in Instagram posts.

[B]

I don't, and I don't want to do something corny like that. I'm definitely gonna do something corny, but I feel it's a little overdone. I mean, to me, again, that's my opinion. I don't. I mean, I want to do something a little. I want to do something else that's not so on the nose, like a dope photo shoot. I want to do something else. But we'll see. I'll figure it out.

[A]

But also, this is where people start making what I consider some crazy bullshit. You don't have to reinvent the wheel just because, like, just, just, just document your looks and go from there. Everyone's like, I wanna create a short play for each look and then I'm gonna like, okay, this. Nobody wanna watch no play. We just wanna look at the look and get it popping. Like, you don't have to go do this all this while. You mad?

[B]

Why you mad? You're not doing it. Why you mad?

[A]

I'm just telling you I think that it is a bad. In my opinion, it's a bad idea. Like, I'm like, this seems. This is content that I'd be like. It feels like it'd be a waste of money. And I don't think it would have a. It would yield a high return for you to do something outrageous and completely outlandish with each and every look on the show.

[B]

I didn't say it was gonna be outrageous and outlandish. I didn't say I was gonna spend a whole bunch of money. I just said there's. Bitch. What? Simone. For every one of Simone's looks was shot on an iPhone with a fucking bounce. Shiny screen.

[A]

Okay, it's still a photo. It's still a photo shoot. You said photo shoots are cheesy.

[B]

Yeah, but I mean her again.

[C]

I.

[B]

What I'm saying is that. But Simone has stepped it up, too, with, like, her backgrounds and stuff. I mean, like, going on locations. So I feel like there's a way to do something a little different that's a little more elevated, but not for a lot of money.

[A]

So you're saying you're poor?

[B]

I'm kidding.

[A]

All I'm saying, I think, are you.

[B]

Who you. Who are you rooting for?

[A]

Well, as of right now, I'm rooting for you. You're my favorite Drag Race queen. Work now, once the show starts, and if shit start getting wonky, I'll be like Monato. That wasn't your week. That wasn't your week.

[B]

Do you think. Do you think I can win?

[A]

I do. I think as long as you do not underestimate Jinx, I think you could win.

[B]

And who do you think is the biggest competition?

[A]

Jinx Monsoon. I think Jinx Monsoon is your biggest competition.

[B]

Top three.

[A]

You Jinx. And you, Jinx. And Viv.

[B]

Yeah, I feel that too, because Viv is really funny.

[A]

Viv is.

[B]

She's really funny. Really?

[A]

She's beautiful. Her makeup is amazing. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, I agree.

[A]

Wait, do we think Shade's gonna be there?

[B]

Oh, I don't think Shay. Bitch. It took Shay eight years to do All Stars. They asked, like, every year. She never went.

[A]

Wait, do we.

[B]

I don't think Shay.

[A]

Did we discuss Shay? Did we skip over Shay Koolai?

[B]

We did skip over Shay, but I

[A]

don't think Shay's gonna Be there. You don't think. I think Shay's gonna. I think she'll go.

[B]

I don't think she will.

[A]

I think Shay would be fierce competition.

[B]

Oh, Shay will be a very fierce competition, but she thinks she'd be the best.

[A]

It'll be either Eu Jinx and Shay or Eu Jinx and Viv. I think Shay and Viv will like, edge out for one of those spots.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so you say Trinity is whack. You have knocked out of the top.

[A]

I don't think she's gonna be in the top with you. I think I just really believe in the talents of you and Jinx. Especially you and Jinx. And Viv and Shay are really also just some amazing competitors. You know, I'm gonna be doing a purse first impressions.

[B]

Oh, my God. Are you gonna talk shit about me if you.

[A]

I mean, I don't think I talk about anyone. I just give my honest opinions about things.

[B]

Okay, so. Oh, so first of all, first, as a person. No, we're doing a sibling watcher read.

[A]

We'll see. You know what?

[B]

You.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[B]

I'll go back to my. I'll go back to my Monet, to my. To my. To my exposes. You. I got my own to do.

[A]

Have fun. Enjoy yourself.

[B]

I will. A lot of fun.

[A]

You and your little expose. You and your little three friends. We'll figure out what we're gonna do. I mean, you don't even know. From what I understand, a lot of girls either aren't allowed to do those things in regards to the stuff for the season.

[B]

My mom. Well, that's because a lot of girls don't know how to negotiate their contracts.

[A]

Oh, and you knew when you was on Drag Race the first time. Okay, go off, sis.

[B]

I didn't. I didn't know the first time, but bitch, the fuck I do now.

[A]

Well, I also know that Katya, she did a review of her season.

[B]

She sure did. She did.

[A]

And maybe it's just cause most folks don't want to do reviews. Maybe that's what it really boils down to.

[B]

Yeah, I did it for mine. I did it for All Stars.

[A]

And Cracker also did it for All Stars too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, so you know what? Yeah. Yeah. There we go.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Look at you. Bob loves to make up rules, don't he?

[A]

Y' all, listen, I'm just basing it off what I see, Henny. What I see, I see now.

[B]

YC.

[A]

This is nerve wracking. I'm like, really excited though.

[B]

Well, once I get all the things, Bob. And I have already begun working on one of my Snatch Games a little bit. I'm planning on. Well, I have two. I have two ideas I'm planning on doing. Cause I'm just assuming there's gonna be some type of Snatch Game component. Snatch Game at sea, Snatch Game of Love. So, like, whatever. There's probably gonna be some type of impersonating a celebrity component. And I either wanna do Whoopi, and I think doing Whoopi could be. Could go over very well. Or do. I can't even do Mike Tyson. I get so. I'm so uncomfortable doing it. Do it, Bob.

[A]

If you want to do Mike Tyson, you gotta kinda. You gotta have a little bit of speech impediment and just raise your voice. He's gotta kind of keep your voice up here. I mean, it's a bit of a parody of Mike Tyson, but, like, everybody understand you. You don't pronounce your art. Mike Tyson. Yeah, yeah, just like this.

[B]

He just said just like.

[C]

Just.

[A]

Just talk like this. You know, that's how Mike Tyson talks. And you don't pronounce your Rs.

[C]

RuPaul.

[B]

Oh, honestly. RuPaul.

[A]

RuPaul. That was pretty funny, I gotta say. If you would've made that joke back in the 90s, I would have fucking punched you in your gut and called you a faggot. But you. You actually. You actually. Pretty funny. Now let's talk about how. Okay, so let's talk about. Cause you had a Snatch Game success and a Snatch Game failure.

[B]

Why was it okay, it was not a failure. It was safe.

[A]

It wasn't funny. Meaning it was a failure.

[B]

No, there was, like, I had, like, one funny joke, which means that it was not a failure, wasn't a success. It was.

[A]

I mean, we have our own opinions. I thought it was. I thought it was a bad Snatch Game, and in my opinion, it was a failure. But go off if you think it was. If you think it was great, then, you know, have fun with it.

[B]

I didn't say it was great. I said it was fine.

[A]

I didn't think it was fine. I thought it was a. I think it was a bad Snatch Game, but sure. Anyway, what. What. What happened with your. Also, Monet. Here's the thing. Be open to critiques. I'm telling you right now, that wasn't good. You know how I say, don't lift your friends up when they're wrong? It wasn't good. So I'm here to tell you, you can do a lot But I don't mean, like, I know I can do better. And I don't mean, like, it was fine. It was a wrap. Don't bring anything from that. Like, you're like, I can pick this little part and that little. No, don't bring that.

[B]

Wouldn't say that.

[A]

The whole thing. Scrap every part of it. Don't bring any component of what you did for that game into your next one.

[B]

I wouldn't, but that doesn't change the fact that it was fine.

[A]

It's not a fact. Those are opinions. I don't know if you know how the words facts and opinions work, but go off. Talk to me about, what did you do to prepare for Maya Angelou?

[B]

I just. I was, like, walking around talking like

[A]

her and, like, put the thing down. It's noisy.

[B]

First of all, can we talk about how this is 9 inches? And niggas on Grindr be swearing everyone is 9 inches, bitch. The fuck you are. Everybody was wearing, this is nine inches. And I have big hands. Okay. To two and a half. Like, no, that doesn't even fit. And I still have, like, four inches.

[A]

Well, it curves. Anyway. But you also. You'd done the Maya Angelou for a couple of auditions prior, so it wasn't. Even though you weren't doing Maya Angelic and your shows, you had at least been thinking of that by Angelou for quite a while.

[B]

Yeah, definitely that. And also. And I was also gonna do Whitney. Whitney is a strong. I mean, not Whitney. Sorry. Nene's a strong one. I could do.

[A]

You know, I did my Angelou for my audition table a long time ago.

[B]

Did you? Yep.

[A]

For my season seven audition or season six audition, I did my Angelou.

[B]

Ah. Anyway, yeah, Nene's a strong. I thought about doing Nene's a strong one, too. Cause I can. I'm very. I'm literally obsessed with Housewives of Anime.

[A]

I don't think you should do that.

[B]

Why?

[A]

Okay, I'm thinking it back to when Pep did Nene. And yeah, her. Nene was bad. Let's just start by saying Pep, me, you, and Pep and everybody else in the world all agreed that Pep had a bad Nene Leakes impersonation. I also just feel like Nene Leakes is someone whose voice is not specific enough, first of all. And her look isn't even specific enough. Like, Nene's looks with a short blonde wig, which she doesn't even wear anymore, but she was known for wearing those for a long time.

[B]

The finger wave.

[A]

I think that there's just Too many people with that hairstyle and with that look for it to be a big Nene Leakes thing, in my opinion. She doesn't have. She also doesn't have any specific huge catchphrases she has. Yes, she does. She has things like go to bed, wig and bloop.

[B]

Close your legs to married men.

[A]

Close legs to married men. But what's the thing we always say? What's the thing we always say?

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I said what? I said, wow, Nini. Oh, yeah, I said what I said, first of all, wow. I don't even watch Housewives. I know WAU Nini is Kim Zolciak. Everyone knows that. Kim Zolciak goes, wow, Nene.

[B]

But I think it'll be funny if you rework that to something else in the questioning in Snatch Game.

[A]

I mean, it seems out of context to me having Nene Leakes say, wow, Nene. And then I'd be like, that's not even her saying.

[B]

No, I wouldn't say wow, Nene. I would say, wow, something else.

[A]

But it's not her saying, monet, take my advice on this. It's also, I want y' all to know, when Monet went off to go do All Stars, I said, I don't think this Whitney is a good idea, in my opinion. It's not funny. It's true. Yes. Stuff I did. And then you said, I think it's great. And you went there and you did it anyway. We had a whole chat. I said, monet, I don't think you should do the Whitney. Then you would do your little bits. And I was like, it's just not that funny to me. And then you were like, I'm gonna do it. And then you got there, and then according to you, it was fine. So I want everyone to know, right? I'm saying. I'm saying vocally out loud right now. So when they cannot. We are recording this. I don't think Nene Leakes is a good option. Personally, I would do either Whoopi Goldberg or Mike Tyson with a full face tattoo, gold tooth, boxing shorts, boxing gloves. That is bald head. That is hilarious. But, yeah, we have to work on it, though. You have to. You have to really, really work on. You have to watch some Mike Tyson interviews. Mike Tyson, look at his pre fight interview. They always do these pre fight, pre match interviews. And Mike Tyson would say the most violent things. He's like, I'm gonna rip his head off. I'm gonna. I'm gonna rip off. I'm gonna. I'm gonna make love to his fucking children.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Anyway, what about the talent portion? People hating. What are you gonna do?

[B]

So I got to redeem myself from that. I'm gonna do probably something for one of my songs coming out.

[A]

Are you like a slow moment or like a.

[B]

No, I'm thinking if they give us dancers and shit, I would do one of the more attempo ones. But if it's like, they don't give us that, I want to, I don't want to like and like, what's the word I'm looking for? Embrace the vibe and do something like slow.

[A]

We're just vibing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I personally feel like you should do one of the slow songs. Like, I think that just because you have dancers, there's no reason to, like, go out and be like, like, I, I don't, I mean, but I don't

[B]

have songs like that.

[C]

I think it'd be better.

[B]

I don't have songs like that.

[A]

You do. Bitch, I'm Beyonce. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I mean, boom.

[B]

That could be a cute one though. Bitch, I'm Beyonce Monet.

[A]

I don't, I don't have any songs like that. Meanwhile, it's always like, dun dun, dun, dun, dun bow bow wow. I think that Gently, like a really fierce rendition of Gently would be.

[B]

Oh my God, you know my song.

[A]

No, you just looked it up. You such a little, nasty little piglet. Okay, first of all, first of all, I know the songs on your album. They're only, they're only like, what? Six? Six of them. Four of them.

[B]

I, I, you're, I'm not friends with you anymore. I know literally every word.

[A]

I just named your song, and now you're mad at me somehow. How, how did I. Cause I don't know the exact number of songs on your fucking ep. Okay, the first one is you in that church singing Ave Maria. And then a car comes, picks you up, and you do when you think I'm here, that I'm never you. And then you be in the club talking about how you Beyonce. And then, and then you do Gently with you and the man.

[B]

Uh huh.

[A]

And then you do. I'm missing one. Gently. Oh, did I say Ave Maria?

[B]

You didn't.

[A]

Oh, Ave Maria. There it is.

[B]

But Jacob is reminding us that when we did the friendship quiz game on Patreon, you got the same question wrong. And you clearly have not learned since then.

[A]

What was the question? How many, how many tracks are on my ep? It's five. I figured it out. It's Five. I counted them.

[B]

No, it's four. Jesus Christ.

[C]

Four.

[A]

What? I just named five. I just named five songs.

[B]

No, you did not.

[A]

Guess I did. Ave Maria Bitch on Beyonce. Gently there for your.

[B]

Uh huh.

[A]

They only name four. Let me go to Spotify real quick. I don't trust you. I did name five.

[B]

You did not. Well, if you did, you made it up in your head. Cause there are not five songs.

[A]

One, two. Oh, okay, four, whatever. But I named them. I named all of them.

[B]

I would do a gently moment or something like. Or something from the new album that I really like. That's slow.

[A]

So I think that would be a really great moment for you. What if you did a podcast? If you gave Michelle and Ru a microphone and you were like, welcome to Sibling Rivalry. It's me, Monet X Change. Filling in for Bob the drag queen is RuPaul and Michelle Massage. How y' all doing today?

[B]

That's fierce. And listen, that is a talent. Being able to be a successful podcast is. That's a. Not everyone can do that.

[A]

If you did a podcast and you replaced me with Michelle and Ru, the shit would be something.

[B]

That's a good idea.

[A]

So, okay, what are you planning for a makeover moment?

[B]

Well, I don't know.

[A]

What do they bring in the other winners who aren't on the show, and then I get paired with. With Jada.

[B]

I would. You better sabotage that little bitch. I know what I want to do for my entrance look. I want to do like, this, like, because there's this really popular thing called baroque black girls and this really cool hairstyles, but Domino's making these.

[A]

You taught me about this.

[B]

Yeah, this, like, full, like, corset into, like, this, like, high collar baroque thing with this, like, big crazy hair and like, thigh high, like a spool boot moment in the same fabric. And I'm gonna. Okay, my entrance line. I'm thinking about a couple things. You ready?

[A]

Okay.

[B]

In this baroque look, I'm like, I had heard some of y' all bitches had to baroque the brink to be here. And honestly, same.

[A]

I don't. I don't know. That's not a good one. No, no, no. I mean, it'd be better if you walk in and say you broke bitches and then just land.

[B]

Oh, that's cute.

[A]

I said, not you baroque. Not you baroque bitches.

[B]

Not y' all not not doing this. Simone, she gonna be there.

[A]

You better hurry up. You better get ready, girl.

[B]

Not y' all baroque bitches.

[A]

Or if you said, I still think you need to Walk in and say, it looks like the exchange rate just went up, and shoot off money, guns. I've been telling you this. This is your third time to try to do this.

[B]

I want the baroque line. It makes sense of my whole look, my whole.

[A]

Okay. The idea of walking in and being like, I swept up the competition or it's not iconic. Monet. If you walk in and say it looks like the exchange rate just went up and you shoot off money, guns, and the money's falling around you and you're just posing, that would be everything.

[B]

Looks like the exchange rate just went up.

[A]

Do you think the other guys.

[B]

Then what I do with the guns, you know, I just throw them.

[A]

Yeah, you can place them down. You can just walk over and put them on the table. You don't have to throw them. You can just. Cause if you throw them, it's gonna be, like, clunky behind you. But if you just shoot them all, you say it looks like the exchange rate just went up, you shoot the guns and then you walk over to the girls like, ah. And you put the guns down.

[B]

No, I shoot them, then I fling them because I want to be able to pose. Body, body, face.

[A]

Ah.

[B]

Ga, ga, ga, ga, ga, ga, ga.

[A]

Do you think the other girl's gonna think you're gonna be fierce competition? Do you think they are gonna estimate you?

[B]

I don't know. I don't know. I honestly don't know what people think.

[A]

I think everyone's gonna be side eyeing Jinx. I think everyone's gonna be gunning for Jinx. Everyone's gonna want to take Jinx down. I think that will also make Jinx nutty as squirrel turd. Like the fact, like, people coming after Jinx is gonna, like, chap her fucking cheeks. Cause they're. I think. I think. I do think everyone's gonna view Jinx as probably as the biggest competition there. I really feel that way. Which is gonna put a big target on her back.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God. You sound like you. I'm sorry, I don't mean to say it, but you see, literally you're talking in Survivor.

[A]

Oh, my God. Would you be mad if you found out when you left I went on Survivor?

[B]

I would be so fucking heated.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Which, by the way, you've done three

[A]

seasons of Drag Race. Let me do one little Survivor.

[B]

I gotta tell you about something. After we get all this. I didn't even want to say it on here because the timeline of all of it is so weird. I'll tell you after this call, but remind me. I gotta tell you something.

[A]

Oh, well, all right. Sorry. Sorry, listeners. Y' all won't get to hear it. So, I mean, listen, y'. All. I mean, I don't know what else to talk about. These are gonna be a weird little series. We'll figure out. It might not be the same length and time as our normal stuff, but we.

[B]

Yeah, they don't have to be.

[A]

We are making this up as we go. This is. This might. Maybe we'll make it a Patreon exclusive at first, and folks really want to hear they can go. Then we'll release it, like, later down the line. Who knows? We don't know what we're doing. We just know that we are documenting Monet's journey as she goes back for the Drag Race Superstars, which I'm calling it.

[B]

And comment below who you think the biggest threat this season is going to be? Because at this point, the cast has been released. So comment. Who do you think the biggest threat this season is and who the top three in your mind is?

[A]

What if we're wrong and it's all. What if it's just. What would you be? Would you be so shook? Look, if it was just another All Stars, you and a bunch of losers, would you gag?

[B]

I swear to God, I would leave the first day. I would not come back.

[A]

Then you'd be labeled a diva.

[B]

I don't care. I would be like, absolutely not. This is not what was advertised. I'm not interested in doing this. Goodbye.

[A]

Not advertised. They paid for that. All right, y', all, thank you for listening. And we'll see you in part two. We'll see how many parts it is. We'll see you in part two, Sam.