The One Where We Defy Gravity

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – "The One Where We Defy Gravity"

Date: November 25, 2024
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry is a wild and uproarious celebration of all things drag, musicals, and queer culture, with Bob and Monét delivering their signature banter, witty arguments, and heartfelt perspectives. The main theme revolves around "defying gravity"—from their hilarious attempts at belting out "Defying Gravity" from Wicked, to an in-depth fangirl breakdown of Broadway legends and the drama therein, to playful debates about versatility in drag and fantasy casting of musicals.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Who Is the Most Versatile Drag Queen?

[01:21 – 08:12]

• The episode kicks off with Bob teasing Monet about stealing $50 and protein powder, segueing into a discussion of fairness, payment, and the holy grail of drag: versatility.
• The pair discuss a Twitter poll asking, "Based on Drag Race alone, who is the most versatile contestant?" Finalists included Sapphira, Cristal, Monét X Change, Sasha Colby, and BenDeLaCreme—with Ben winning by a landslide.
• Quote:

  "I do think I am a more diverse queen than Sasha Colby... But BenDeLaCreme, I think BenDeLaCreme does a lot. But I think I should be second."
  —Monét X Change [19:18]

Patreon, Monet Talks & Margaret Cho

[08:12 – 10:07]

• Monét plugs her chat show "Monét Talks" and asks for five-star ratings on Apple/Spotify.
• Bob recounts a recent gig where Margaret Cho flipped the script and let openers perform after her:
• Quote:

  "Margaret Cho did a Uno Reverse and she actually opened her show and she let the openers go up after her..."
  —Bob the Drag Queen [09:39]

Families, Caribbean Roots & Birthday Plans

[12:22 – 17:41]

• Monét shares a story about her aunt suggesting a joint Bob birthday/Juneteenth celebration in LA, prompting laughter and a reflection on Caribbean versus American naming conventions within families.
• Discussion about who makes the better party drink (Caribbean squash vs Bob’s lemonade) and the gamesmanship that might ensue.
• Quote:

  "Anything you can do at your birthday is going to be a celebration of me whooping your ass."
  —Monét X Change [15:22]

"Defying Gravity": Live Renditions & Music Nerding

[22:08 – 28:20]

• Bob and Monét attempt to one-up each other with their own versions of the Wicked showstopper "Defying Gravity," leaning hard into riffs, musical theory, and a touch of chaos.
• Monét gives Bob singing notes, and Bob jokes about his fashion choices for the performance.
• Bob’s version builds to a dizzy finish:

  "I am lightheaded. Oh, my god. Jesus Christ. I'm not kidding. I'm literally lightheaded. That was insane, Bob."
  —Bob the Drag Queen [24:47]

• Monét on performing pantsless:

  "I am completely naked from the waist down... I am dick and balls swinging down here."
  —Monét X Change [25:32]

Wicked 101: A Drag Queen’s Summary

[31:15 – 41:09]

• Bob gives an in-depth and hilarious summary of Wicked for Monét, who confesses she's never seen the musical. He outlines the show’s plot, character arcs, and queer allegories—injecting humor by referencing pop culture and the Mean Girls dynamic between Glinda and Elphaba.
• Jacob and Monét interject with questions about Wicked deep cuts.
• Quote:

  "Elphaba is literally the number one on their FBI most wanted list. Truly."
  —Bob the Drag Queen [37:34]

Broadway Legends & Celebrity Drama

[41:17 – 44:46]

• Monét recounts Patti LuPone’s notorious Broadway shade and diva energy, with Bob and Jacob adding layers about LuPone’s beefs with Madonna and Glenn Close.
• Quote:

  "At what point do we acknowledge if Patti LuPone is beefing with everybody, maybe it's Patti LuPone."
  —Bob the Drag Queen [43:02]

The Nicest Queen?

[43:36 – 44:46]

• Monét claims her misunderstood status as the "nicest queen," to which Bob counters that Monét is more fun than nice.
• Quote:

  "I think you're really fun. I think you're funny. You have good ideas... But sometimes you can really fight against the current for no damn reason."
  —Bob the Drag Queen [44:14]

Relationships, “Butterflies” & Couple Dynamics

[44:56 – 45:55]

• Monét probes Bob and Jacob about their "honeymoon phase," poking fun at their (alleged) everlasting butterflies.
• The entire exchange is laced with mocking sincerity and callback jokes.

On Broadway Casting, Community Theater Dreams

[54:21 – 66:18]

• Bob and Monét fantasy-cast a new Rent movie with celebrities (Zendaya as Mimi, Coco Jones as Joanne, Harry Styles as Roger, etc.) and struggle to fill the role of Angel—redubbing the episode a "community theater" casting session.
• They riff on establishing a real Queer Community Theater, where local folks perform and a queer celebrity headlines one role. Bob dreams aloud about directing a musical with a serious budget, listing dream shows like Seussical, Chicago, Hairspray, and Jesus Christ Superstar.
• Quote:

  "I want to give. I want to spend like a month or two directing a musical. I want to do Seussical, the Musical. I want to do Chicago. I want to do Hairspray. I want to do Jesus Christ Superstar. I would like to direct Annie."
  —Bob the Drag Queen [65:09]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Drag Drama:

• "You are literally the most dramatic person I know."
  —Monét X Change [02:20]

On Family:

• "Girl, my family tree is a mess one day. I said do, like, a book about it. My life is so crazy. It's such a fucking mess."
  —Monét X Change [13:44]

On Musical Theater Fandom:

• "When people talk about black Alphabas, for some reason Sacon Sengbloh does not come up in the conversation... this is very theater nerdy. I want y'all to know I'm going to lose a lot of the room on this..."
  —Bob the Drag Queen [47:05]

On Queer Community Theater:

• "It's a community theater, but we bring in these big stars to play like one role in a show."
  —Bob the Drag Queen [62:11]

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Key Timestamps

• [01:21] — Introduction to this week’s debate and episode theme
• [09:39] — Bob headlines Margaret Cho’s show
• [12:22] — Family, birthdays, and party plans
• [17:41] — Lemonaid vs. squash: the party drink-off challenge
• [19:01] — Twitter poll: most versatile Drag Race queen
• [22:08 – 28:20] — Defying Gravity: live vocal auditions and critique
• [31:15 – 41:09] — Bob’s crash course on the plot of Wicked
• [41:17 – 44:46] — Theatre drama: Patti LuPone, Madonna, and Broadway
• [54:21 – 66:18] — Dream casting Rent, Queer Community Theater, and Bob’s dream directorial debut

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Episode Tone & Takeaway

This episode is high-energy, campy, and deeply steeped in theater geekery. Bob and Monét’s chemistry is as potent as ever, balancing fast-witted reads, honest personal anecdotes, and genuine love for drag and queer arts. The extended riff on Wicked and community theater underscores the importance of queer spaces in performance, self-expression, and celebration—while keeping things consistently hilarious.

Perfect for: Fans who love musical theater, Drag Race queens, chaotic friendship energy, and deep dives into the heart (and shade) of queer pop culture.

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Sibling Rivalry: As always, delightfully off-script, irreverent, and fabulous.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen,

[Monet X Change]

and I'm Mon X Change, and this is simply rivalry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On this week's episode, we find out who is the most versatile drag queen in the history of RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

We defy gravity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you obsessed with it? And we find out what made Bomb say this. You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you stole $50 from me, Monet. I don't want us to say the N word on the podcast anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'm sorry you feel. Well, you don't have to say it. That is your no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We, Monet. We us.

[Monet X Change]

The answer is no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why do you want to say the N word so badly?

[Monet X Change]

Because I just want to say it. I like saying the N word.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just because you want to say it. Say it again just because you want to say it.

[Monet X Change]

Yep, because I want to say it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, we not saying it no more.

[Monet X Change]

You guys see what. What whey butter is? It's kind of like the thing that they use in whey protein, the way protein that you don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not funny. I've been. I've been. I've been. I've been burgled. Burgled.

[Monet X Change]

You are so. You are literally the most dramatic person I know, I think. I. I don't. I. I was literally trying to take inventory of my friends, and you are the most dramatic friend and the most ridiculous Person I know, like, 100, easy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to be clear. I've been burgled, and you're making jokes about my burglarization. So to be clear, this is what happened. This is what. And you benefited from my burgling.

[Monet X Change]

How did I benefit? I don't use that shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So this is what happened, y'.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Andy has been training me on the road. I decided to get serious about my fitness, and I hired a trainer.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know why you posted a thirst draft yesterday.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said, but they're in the. It's in the close friends. I'm not brave enough to post them. I posted a picture on Blue sky because I only have, like, 2,000 followers there. So I'm like, the stakes are very low on Blue Sky. Should I put. Should I. Should I show them the picture here? No, that's too much. What? Say again, Jacob, you wanna.

[Jacob]

What's your Blue sky account so people can follow you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, shout out to the bitch who stole Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

I know there's someone stole on the exchange. They're trying to, like, get it back through a whole thing. It's like a whole me, Trixie, Katya, and you. They did it too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So I am. I'm the Bob the Drag Queen on Blue Sky.

[Monet X Change]

Work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, should I post. Should I. Should I post a picture here? Should I go to my Blue sky to see it?

[Monet X Change]

I think go to your Blue sky and you can also give it. Give the. Give the patrons. If you really want to see it, go on Patreon. If you want to see it again, go on Blue Sky.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so the patrons. There it is. So the patrons can see it. Will. Can Jay make a blurred version? Jay gonna be like, y' all doing too much.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I think when he exits.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But we pay you, Jay, so you'll do what we tell you to. Understand? That's too much. That's too much.

[Monet X Change]

When he has to work in one, he gets. I think you just delete the picture on the YouTube one. I don't think he has to, like, do a whole thing. Just don't put it in the YouTube one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I took a little thirst trappy at the gym.

[Monet X Change]

You look good, girl. I would tell you, you know, it would bring me nothing but joy to make fun of you and tell you look bad. But it looks. Honestly, you look really good. It looks hot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was crazy. Anyway, so on the last day on the bus, you know, we have snacks and stuff on the bus and food and stuff. And I bought some protein and okay, you purchased it.

[Monet X Change]

Andy went to physically buy it at the Costco.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but I. But it's my. But. Yeah, but. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I'm just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm giving all the context.

[Monet X Change]

I'll give all the context.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is my money, and it's my protein.

[Monet X Change]

I'm giving all the context.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then the last day, I'm, like, looking around. I have this box of the snacks. They're in my office right now, this little box of snacks. I'm like, oh, let me find the protein. The powder's gone. I call Andy. I say, andy, you stole my protein powder. I know. I said, do you have it before? He goes, yeah, I have it. I said, you stole it? He was like, it wasn't some big caper. I didn't like. I said, no.

[Jacob]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On the bus, you looked at the protein powder that you didn't pay for, and then you. I was like. And then you took it to your house. You stole my protein powder. And Monet thinks I'm being wild because years ago.

[Monet X Change]

No, I didn't think you were wild. It was just funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, this.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, this is Peak by the Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Years ago, my assistant paid a designer who made me something, and she was like, oh, her rate was so low, I gave her an extra 50 bucks. And I was like, you mean you stole $50? You stole $50 from me?

[Monet X Change]

You are so ridiculous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like, if you would have let me know, I would have been like, you know, yeah, we can give her extra $50. But you mopped $50 from me and then money. What'd you do now? I was like, I made her pay me back my few dollars. Yes, I did. I made her pay me back my $50. I was like, I want $50, and I need it now. I need it.

[Monet X Change]

I guess the question is, why do you pay your designer such a low rate?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I paid her the rate she asked for. I literally gave her exactly what she asked for. And let me try it now. Something people know about me. When it comes to designers, I don't bargain. If your rate's too high, I will say, thank you so much for your time. Have a good day. I will not bargain. I will not barter. I will not try to do a half seas. You deserve what you asked for.

[Monet X Change]

Well, this designer. I'm getting some stuff made for this thing, and this designer who I really love to work with before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Say their names.

[Monet X Change]

They made some stuff for me before at a rate that was great. And then so we reached out to them again. Bitch. When I saw the price, I said, oh, baby, we gonna have to thank you. To quote you as Kara Chandler. Thank you so much. I was like, I thank you so

[Bob the Drag Queen]

much for your time. What was that? Okay, what do they make for you before? You don't have to say who they are, but what do they make for you before?

[Monet X Change]

If I. If I say that, it's very obvious what it is, like, who the designer is. Once I say what it is, is it obvious? Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To, like, the deep, deep divey fans. But most of the fans don't know like that. So just say it. What do they make?

[Monet X Change]

No, because I really like this person. I will reward you in the future. I don't want it to just start any bad blood, anything. But I just. It was like Patreon only I'm not going on. On Drag Race.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How about Patreon only?

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm not. Not even to. Oh, my God. Okay, I'll say that. This is for Patreon only. I'm gonna put the mic in front of my mouth so they don't read.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Patreon only Monet.

[Monet X Change]

I will say on Patreon only. But, you know, really quick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just tell me. Just tell me. Okay, you don't say the name.

[Monet X Change]

Just. I'm gonna say it. She made me the I wore on secret celebrity drag brace.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know, she's a big deal now.

[Monet X Change]

I know. And her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, she's a big deal now.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I know. I see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I put you onto her. Can you say that out loud with your whole chest?

[Monet X Change]

You did. I would say you did. Tell me about it. Because I was, like, struggling for that one. I was struggling to find a thing, but I was like, monet. Well, what about you? Look at this person. They're really fierce. And I was like, oh, work. And they were really great. I'm very, very, very happy with the stuff that they made me before, but I cannot. It's not in my budget for this project to go with this person again. But this stuff is really cool and really fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I. I mean, I never got anything made from her. I should. I should have now. Now I'm too late. I should have got something made back when. Back when. Back when race was low and we kept being like, let's do something together. But I was like, I know someone you can make something for. I know someone who literally needs a thing. And to be honest, she came through. You looked amazing.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you. Thank you. For whatever reason, a lot of people do not realize that Monat talks is a sibling Rivalry Production. So if you. Monet Talks is my show. And I need y' all to go on motherfucking Apple podcasts. And five star ratings. Bring the ratings up, baby. I need to. We only have like a hundred. Yeah, well, it's a YouTube chat show that we put out as a podcast as well. So I need y' all to go on Apple Podcast and Spotify podcast and give us some. Some five star ratings, y', all and leave some comments.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it?

[Monet X Change]

Please, please, please, please, please. Thank you so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And. And Sibling Rivalry is a podcast that we put out as a YouTube chat show. We're in the metaverse. It's a hat on a hat on a hat on a hat. But yeah, I mean, so last night I did some comedy for Margaret Cho, and honestly, it was so cool. So I thought that I was going to be opening for Margaret Cho. Margaret Cho did a Uno Reverse and she actually opened her show and she let the openers go up after her, which was.

[Monet X Change]

Which was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had never seen.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I got to close the show. She said. She said, bob, you get the headline? I was like, not me headlining a Margaret show. So this is crazy. It was me, Robin Tran and Charlene. I don't remember Charlene's last name. Charlene K. That's fair. Charlene K. Yeah. It felt nice, to be honest. Charlene K. Yeah, her name is Charlene K. She's a musician and a comedian. And it was honestly really cool. And Dylan. Dylan Adler also popped up and did.

[Monet X Change]

I love Dylan. I think Dylan Adler is so funny. I love Dylan Adler.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, very, very funny. And has those fun videos that he does with his twin. You don't want to.

[Jacob]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You give off. You give off twin energy. You give off the energy of someone who has a twin.

[Monet X Change]

What do you. What does that mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know how to describe it. You just seem like someone who you would know for two years and then they'd be like, oh, yeah, I have a twin. Like, you give off that energy.

[Monet X Change]

What the fuck?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all know what I mean, right? Comment below. You get it.

[Monet X Change]

What do you. So, like, you think I'm someone that I had a twin all this time? And like, you just, like, you just find out randomly that I have a twin sibling somewhere. I just drop it at a party one day.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, not right now. Like, I don't believe that now, but like, if I knew you for two years and on the second year you were like, I have a twin, I'd be like, that explains everything.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I Have a proposition for you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, someone like that is. Eureka has a twin. Eureka has a twin. People don't know Eureka has a twin.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, that is true. Eureka does have a twin. It's a. It's a fraternal twin, though, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they're fraternal twins. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Fraternal twins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it. Wow. Eureka's sister's pronouns are not it. That's pretty crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I didn't mean it like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I meant, like, I wanna. I'm so sorry. To Eureka's sister. I. I wanted y' all to know that was not mean. That was Monet.

[Monet X Change]

But the name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her name is Eureka's sister. That's literally her name.

[Monet X Change]

I have a. I have a proposition. So I was on the phone with my aunt, and they're like, oh, we want to come out to LA to, like, you know, see all the renovations and stuff and hang out for it, you know? You know, my aunt's. My. My aunt Sharon, the party one. My aunt Annette, the older sister, my grandmother and whatever. And then they're like, oh, maybe we can come out for Juneteenth. So I said about. I was like, I should be at home around Juneteenth. Even though it's pride season, things will change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then.

[Monet X Change]

And then she goes unprompted. She was like, isn't that around your friend Bob's birthday? I was like, yeah. She's like, well, we should come up for Juneteenth and do, like, a birthday celebration for Bob. I know with everything going on, it'll be nice if we can just have, like, a birthday party for Bob around Juneteenth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's really kind. I know that sounds so lovely. I mean, wait, do you call your aunts aunt, or do you just call them, like Sharon? I call them Auntie Auntie. I was wondering, like, if Caribbean people just call their. Their uncles and. Because I know you're. Because, like, I know that Southern people really like these. These. These titular prefixes, you know, Ms. Aunt so and so. But I know that your mother does not like being called Miss Jackie. She really is not into that.

[Monet X Change]

She not into that. No, no. But my aunts, I call.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did she, like, be called Aunt Jackie by her nieces and nephews?

[Monet X Change]

She doesn't have nieces and nephews.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, she does. She does. She likes being called Auntie Jackie. But that. That's Caribbean. That's very. That's very big. Like, even people who aren't your aunts and uncles, you call them. If they're really close family friends you grew up with, like, in those roles, like, you just. You still call them, like. Like, if I'll call you, like, Uncle Bob, Uncle Jacob, like, that's just kind of, like. That's just. That's very Caribbean.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And did she also raise your brother Sean?

[Monet X Change]

No, Sean's mom raised him. His mom, Annette.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what does Sean call Jackie?

[Monet X Change]

Auntie Jackie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. Okay. And what do we. What do his kids call Jackie?

[Monet X Change]

His kids don't know her. No, don't know her. They never met her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

Cause Sean never lived with me in St. Lucia. Shawn lived in the. In America with his mom. Girl, you know, my family tree. My family tree is. Girl, my family tree is a mess one day. I mean, you. I mean, I don't think even, you know, like, the depths of how crazy my family thing is, especially with, like, my biological father and the whole Colombian thing. Like, it's like, girl, my whole. My whole. I said do, like, a book about it. My whole. My life is so crazy. It's such a fucking mess.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't really know the full depths of how crazy it is, but based on how crazy I know you are, I imagine it's pretty wild.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So, wait, so are you gonna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are we?

[Monet X Change]

Are. Are we? Can we throw a birthday party for you at my house?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, the. The short answer is yes. That sounds really lovely. You know. You know how work be. But if. I mean, obviously, I think once we get closer to June, money. Don't. Please don't do a thing. Please don't do it.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, wait, what am I doing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The closer we get to June, the more we'll. Oh, I thought you were like, oh, wow.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know. I get it, too. Pride month. And I was like, yeah, like, let's, like, tentatively, like, say yes, but, like, not until closer to. We can, like, pull the trigger on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I have been out of the pride market for a minute now because I spent my. I spent my last. Well, that's not true. I spent two birthdays in a row with Madonna. Two birthdays in a row with Madonna. And my last birthday, I was in Rochester. Not to brag. I was in Rochester, New York. Really cutting it up for my birthday.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. Okay, so tendency to the. Yes. And we're gonna invite all your friends, and it's gonna be like a. If it happens, I think it'll be very cute. It'll be a time, and you can make your 10 gallons of fucking lemonade or whatever. The fuck you wanna make? And I'm gonna make my squash and you're going down. We're going to have. Anything you can do at your birthday is going to be a celebration of me whooping your ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, first of all, if we are. If the Caribbean's are outnumbering, you know, we'll talk about this in the, in a second.

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I just want to say this. Obviously if the Caribbean number is out counting Americans, then it's going to be biased.

[Monet X Change]

Caveat. Caveats already. Also, it's not. Go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, your family's Caribbean. Yeah, it's your family's Caribbean.

[Monet X Change]

Three of my family, it's my two aunts and my grandmother. The rest are literally going to be Americans. And also for the record, I'm American. So me and all your other friends are Americans.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but, but you, but you, but you're going to be. But you're going to be voting for yourself, Monet, obviously. I'm just saying, if you stack the courts.

[Monet X Change]

Biased.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you stack the courts in your favor.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not biased. I might not vote for lemonade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're telling me that if you can objectively say that my lemonade is better than your squash, you're gonna just, you're just gonna, you're just gonna. You're gonna. You're gonna be like, I admit yours is better.

[Monet X Change]

That's right. Yes, I will.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then what happened with the noodles?

[Monet X Change]

Cause I did not think that. I did not think yours was better.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think you thought at all. If, I mean, if I'm being fully honest with you.

[Monet X Change]

Let me tell you something. We were both running for President of the United States and I felt like you ran a bit of campaign. I would vote for you for president instead of me at the end.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, but you, but you. Would you like bow to the race or do you still run and just vote for the other person? That's crazy.

[Monet X Change]

I was still run. I would still run, but I would vote and voting for you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy. I wanna. So Green Gay on Twitter posted a.

[Monet X Change]

You still on Twitter?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And it said based on.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Green Gay. Who you talking about?

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You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? No. Yes, I have not left Twitter yet, but I'm moving over to Blue Sky. I'm making the transition to Blue Sky. But Green Gay posted on Twitter and it says based on Drag Race alone, who is the most versatile contestant? And the options were Sapphira, Cristal, Monet X Change, Sasha Kobe and Ben De la Creme. We have, we have posted the results in. In the group chat. Monet and you, you beat out, you beat out Sapphire Crystal.

[Monet X Change]

Was I third?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You were third place behind Sasha Kobe. And then way in the lead, landslide victory is Bendela Crim at 52%. You got 15%, Sapphira got 14% and Sasha Kobe got 19%. Do you agree with these results?

[Monet X Change]

You know, I really consider myself a multi hyphenate. No shade to Sasha Kobe. I think Sasha Kobe is very talented. I do think I am a more diverse queen than Sasha Colby. I do. But BenDeLaCreme, I think Brenda Cram is pretty diverse. I think Brenda Lacrime does a lot of stuff very well. But I think I am more diverse than Dasha Colby. Absolutely. What do you think?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I. Okay. Bendelaquarium can write, she can sing. I don't know that. She's known for her dancing. She does comedy. And you can dance and sing and do comedy. You're not known for your writing.

[Monet X Change]

I do. I. I wrote a whole one with Michelle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you seem evenly matched to. Oh, and Ben Lacrum directed it.

[Monet X Change]

Can you direct? No, I cannot direct. I mean, I've never tried to direct. I don't, I don't think. I mean, I don't know if I can direct. I've never tried it. I don't know what the art form of directing is. So at this present point, no, but I don't think it's beyond something I could do in the. In the future.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Ben Lakram also produces as well.

[Monet X Change]

True.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's like. She.

[Jacob]

She.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If y' all have not seen the jinx and jinx and bindle of Creme Hulu. Is it Hulu Christmas Special or is it Amazon or. It's on one of those streaming platforms. Anyway, BenDeLaCreme directed it, and I think she wrote it and I think she also produced it. What the hell? Jinx do.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So, yeah, I think she showed up. Ben is a fair, true multi hyphen. I think Ben does a lot, but I think I am more. I think I should be second. But whatever. I don't really fucking care. Who cares?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Sasha Kobe is a really great dancer. I don't know that she sings. She is a pageant girl. She can pageant the house down. She's a former Miss Continental.

[Monet X Change]

Does she write?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does she do interviews and stuff? Does she host to, like, do interviews and stuff?

[Monet X Change]

I don't. I've never seen her. Oh, yeah, that's another thing. I host. I'm a host. I'm a conversationalist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You do. You have. You have a YouTube chat show? Not to be confused with a. With a podcast. But it is. But it is.

[Monet X Change]

Why. Why are you obsessed with this YouTube chat, Joe? There. Why are you obsessed with it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to make sure I'm getting it right. That's literally it. I just want to make sure I'm getting it right. It is a. It is a YouTube chat show that is released as a podcast. And Sibling Rivalry is a podcast that's released as a YouTube chat show.

[Monet X Change]

Correct.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Make sure everyone knows that because it seems important to you. So it's important because it's important to you. It is important to me.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, here's a question for. At the end of Defying Gravity, what would be your riff? Because you know Cynthia Riva. Go. She does. How would you end your defying Gravity? Because, I mean, Idina Mendel's was. What's yours?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which I think that's the. Is that. I'm assuming that's what was. I'm assuming what I did was I was doing is what was written right. Maybe. Maybe.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm assuming. But maybe she came up with it. Maybe he just went, ah. And she hit him with the, you know, what's yours? Here we go.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, clearing the throat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Leave her alone. She has nothing to do with this. I'm the one you want. It's me. It's me. So if you care to find me, look to the western sky. I would growl on that. Look to the western sky. As someone told me lately, everyone deserves a chance to fly. And if I'm. I'm fly, no one does that fly. And if I'm flying solo, at least I'm flying free. To those who I would think of

[Monet X Change]

this one I love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To those who ground me, you got to speak that part and really give it to them. To those who ground me, take a message back from me. Tell them how I. I am defying gravity. I'm flying high and defying gravity. And soon I'll match them in renown. One second.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, we're gonna do that in the song, too. Just take.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And nobody take a break. In all of Oz, no wizard that there is or was is ever gonna break. Did you hear that? Did you hear that? Gonna bring

[Shannon Maldonado]

me

[Jacob]

down. Look at her. She's wicked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Get her. Bring me down.

[Monet X Change]

You've got to bring her. Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am lightheaded. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. I'm not kidding. I'm literally lightheaded. That was insane, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

I am screaming. You are so wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does singing make you lightheaded?

[Monet X Change]

It's when you are not. I think the way you were just singing it, you weren't giving yourself enough air to sustain your. To sustain the melody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm dizzy and confused. I also stood up. When people realize I'm not wearing the pants that match, I want y' all to know I do have the matching pants, but I wasn't planning on standing up. And you got me. You got me, gal. I'm in sweatpants.

[Monet X Change]

I am completely naked from the waist down. I have no. I am dick and balls swinging down here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I'm assuming you're not gonna. When you do your rendition, you're not gonna stand up and do the. Grab a. You don't have a broom? You know what drives me crazy? There are no brooms in hotels rooms. In hotel rooms.

[Monet X Change]

Why do you need a broom? Because you have vacuums sometimes. Not brooms.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have never seen a vacuum in a hotel room. Not saying they don't have them. I've just never seen one. And I think that sometime I'm shaving. I'll shave or I'll shave my head, and there's just hair, and I have to, like, get. I have to, like, get a towel, scoop it up with a towel. It'll be so much easier with a broom and a dustpan.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch. Hotel room. First of all, they hide the garbage cans. And then you want to plug up. And especially in New York City, hotel rooms are so small. Then you go put a broom, too. And it was made for that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've always said this every. I don't know who's designing hotels, but turning on the light shouldn't be a puzzle.

[Monet X Change]

Look, I'm like an escape room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Now, Monet, it is your turn. I need to hear how you would. And you have to start with, I'm the one you want. It's me. It's me.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I think I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait. First of all, you didn't critique mine. I want to hear some critiques.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I thought it was good. I think I like some of your speaking moments. I think that's something that you can lean into more. The speaking parts of it. I think that's something that's really impactful and really cool. I actually. I like the way that you, at

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the end, didn't feel like you're saying, I can't sing.

[Monet X Change]

No, that's what I said. I think those, like, you're a great speaker, and I think we should lean into those. I think at the end, you not resolving it honestly, that's fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is it? What does resolving it mean?

[Monet X Change]

Like, taking it back to the tonic. Like, that's what. That's what sincerely does.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, Monet, use more words. I understand. Thank you, money. When I ask you about one word, use another word. I don't. I don't understand that. That makes it so much easier to understand what the. Is a tonic. Oh, well, you didn't do the crescendo with the belly. Uchi Ashi. And of course, if you do the bindamusi, speak to me like, I don't. Like, I didn't talk normal.

[Monet X Change]

Basically, you're taking it back to dough. To home. Basically. Like, you know, like, when you hear something that. When you hear something resolve, it feels like it's unfinished. When you resolve it or take it back to the tonic, you're taking it back to home base to do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that why those songs always have the little note at the end, the little bump?

[Monet X Change]

What note?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, musical theater always has, like, a little note at the end of the song. Like, the whole song.

[Monet X Change]

It'll end on a chord to be like. Yes, yes. Most of the time. And when you hear it doesn't do that. It's usually the music writers do that on purpose to make you feel like it's unfinished or like you're at the edge of the seat. Cause it's not done. You know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Monetary. I hope you're happy, my friend. I'm the one you want.

[Monet X Change]

It's me. It's me.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Sorry.

[Monet X Change]

If you can't find me look to the western skies and someone told me lately Everyone deserves a chance to fly and if I'm flying so low at least I'm flying free what's the words to those who ground me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To those who ground me yeah, Take

[Monet X Change]

a message back from me Octo chain we stand it's time to try Defying gravity I'm flying high Defying gravity and soon I'll match the memories now and nobody in all of us no wizard that there is or was Is never gotten of rank.

[Jacob]

She's wicked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Get her.

[Monet X Change]

Bring me down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. I like your little. I like your little rip at the end. That was nice.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Jacob]

Can I have some action Wicked? If you two did a live action Wicked, who would be Elphaba and who would be Glinda?

[Monet X Change]

You'll be who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name would be Glenda. I'd be Elphaba. Down. Because I misunderstood.

[Monet X Change]

Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because. Because you're fake and phony and I misunderstood.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I've never seen Wicked. So is the. So are we. So is. Is. Is the. Is the. Is the. What's going on in the store? We find out that Glenda is like this. Fake and other measures.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're going to give you all a spoiler alert right now. This is your spoiler alert. If you have not seen, we're going

[Jacob]

to take an ad break first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, but after this ad break comes some Wicked spoilers.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

so Wicked is about these two girls in college. These two young women in college. They're studying shiz. Yes. And they are studying wizardry. Well, Elphaba is actually not supposed to go to the school. She's just there because she is dropping her sister off at school. But then everyone starts like trying to do. Someone takes her sister away and she's like, her sister's in a wheelchair. And she's like, no, my sister can push herself. Please don't do that. Don't do that. And then she like freaks out and she does some magic and she likes knocks things away and she pulls the chair back and everything starts flying around. And then the head, the headmistress, Madam Morrible sees this and is like, well, you go to shiz now. You now go to shiz. And you are now my. My prize pupil. I will be teaching you.

[Monet X Change]

This seems inappropriate. Her parents are like, why does this coming home. She's at school.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, the truth is Elphaba's dad doesn't like her because she's green and she's embarrassing and she's weird. So.

[Monet X Change]

Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, Elphaba is just based on the name L. Frank Baum, which I think is interesting. And then. Jacob, can you quickly Google if L. Frank Baum died before the wizard of Oz came out, I want to know that.

[Jacob]

The movie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The movie. Yeah.

[Jacob]

Gotcha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And so then. But Glinda really wants to get class with Mana. Morbid. But she's not powerful enough. She did not matter is not inspired by her in any way, shape, form or fashion, but she is inspired by Elphaba. So then she takes on Elphaba as a student. They're doing private classes, lessons and stuff. And then Elphaba finds out that the animals of Oz, there's one animal who teaches at Oz. All the other animals have been stripped from their teaching abilities and they're losing the ability to speak. There is a campaign against animals, so it's low key. A civil rights, animal rights activism movie as well. So Elphaba's like, I want to stick up for the animals. The animals are being taken like the animals, their rights are being taken away. And we cannot allow that to happen. Right. So then. And I'm skipping over some plot points here. So then they. But then Elphaba and Glinda do not like it. They end up being roommates because metamorphosis. And also Elphaba is going to be room with you, Glenda. Your private room. Elphaba will be staying with you. So it is what it is. You're the only one who doesn't have a roommate. Elphaba lives with you now. What you gonna do about it? Purr. And then so the two hate each other. They're enemies. Everyone at school is like, we love Glinda. Glinda's a pretty girl. Glinda's kind of a mean girl. Glinda's like, whatever. She's a loser. I'm fierce. And Elphaba's like, whatever. You guys are.

[Monet X Change]

So Glenda is like the Regina George.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, very much like the Regina George. Not as mean as Regina George, to be honest, though. And then Glinda's mom, grandma, makes her these hideous hats. She always makes her hats. And then her friends are like, oh, my God, that hat is so ugly. No one would wear this hat. And she goes, I know someone who would wear it. And then she gives the hat to Elphaba, and she's like, I just think it looks really sharp. You know, black is this year's pink. Like, everyone's wearing black now, so trust me, you look really good together, you and this hat. You're both so smart. You should wear this hat and then come to.

[Monet X Change]

And that's the iconic black witch hat that Elphaba wears.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. She's like, come to the Ozda's ballroom tonight and wear this hat. Trust me, you'll be the life of the party. Well, Elphaba comes in wearing the hat, and everyone's like, that hat is so fucking ugly. But the thing is, Elphaba was so touched by the fact that Glinda gave her a hat. Like, she was so touched by this. She was like, wow. I'm like, I cannot believe Glinda was actually nice to me. But Glenn was actually being. Glinda was actually being quite mean and nasty. So she was like. Because she was so touched, she goes, madame Morrible, I want you to take on Glenda as a. I want you to take on Glenda as a pupil. And to be honest, if you don't take her on, I'm not gonna be doing your class anymore. So you don't have a choice. You now have to take on Glenda as one of your pupils. And then Madame Morrible comes to Ozda's ballroom, and she goes, hey, you're. Wait.

[Monet X Change]

Can you tell me about the Glinda thing? Why is she Glinda.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, her name is actually. Her name is Galinda. Her name's not Glynda. Her name is Galinda, but one of the goats. The goat. Professor. Professor McGonagall. No, Dr. Dillon. Dr. Dilleman. Dr. Dilleman.

[Monet X Change]

Because McGonagall from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I misspoke. Dr. Dilliman can't pronounce the Glinda because of his goat affectation. So he just goes, Glenda. And then later on, when Dr. Dillon gets taken away, she goes in honor of Dr. Dillaman. I will now be going by Glenda.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. And in the song where she goes, Nessa. Dr. Dillemon. Why is she referencing them in that song?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Nessa. Because Nessa is her sister and she tried to. She charmed these shoes so Nessa could walk. And then Dr. Dillon was taken away by the staff. And then Fiero plot, big spoiler here. F is being hunted down because he helped her steal this baby lion or this baby animal that was being. That was. They were like, we're going to put animals in cages now. So because he's also an outlaw, she was like, I want to cast a spell that he will. That he cannot feel pain. I want to make sure that nothing bad happens to him. And in the process of doing this, he ends up turning into a scarecrow.

[Jacob]

This is. Okay, this is a little. Essentially, that's not fully the. What's happening. That's not what they're. They're not hunting him down for the lion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why are they hunting him down?

[Jacob]

Because he turned a gun on Glinda to save her during that one scene.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's right. So they're all outlaws and he turned a gun on Glinda. They're all like, hunting Elphaba and him. And then he's like, I'm gonna. And he goes to protect. He goes to protect Elphaba because he used to date Glinda, but he's actually in love with Elphaba. That's the real tea. Anyway, because she wants to protect him. She's like, I have to do. She's very new to magic. She has this very, very powerful book, this book with all the spells, but she doesn't really know what it does. She stole it from the wizard of Oz. I'm jumping around. She stole this book and she uses this book to try to protect him. But in the process, she just turns him into a scarecrow. And that's why he doesn't feel painful. Anyway, back to Aza's ballroom. They're in the Ozza's ballroom. And then.

[Monet X Change]

So Elphaba is a thief.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Elphaba does steal. Yes. Elphaba is an outlaw. Elpha is literally like the most wanted person in all of Oz. Like, literally the. She is. She is the number one on their FBI most wanted list. Truly.

[Jacob]

Also side note, can you imagine being Glinda's grandmother and gifting your granddaughter a hat? And then a week later, you see Oz's most wanted criminal wearing it, flying around that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. You know, I never even thought about her grandma. So then Madame Morrible comes to the Aza's Ballroom, where all the students are partying. She goes, I want you to know that you have class in the morning, and I don't believe in you. I don't think you're good. I think you're gonna let me down. And the only reason that I am taking you on as a pupil is because Elphaba says, she quit my class. If you didn't do it, you need to know that right now. And then Matamorba leaves, and guess who walks in wearing the hat. Elphaba. She thinks she's about to stunt, and everyone's like, bitch, you look fucking dumb. You literally look stupid. I've never seen an uglier outfit, literally, in my life. Everyone's laughing at her. And then she's like, oh, I'm gonna. I'm gonna show out. I'm gonna show them how much I don't care. And she starts dancing, and she's, like, doing this, like, weird little dance. And then Glenda feels really bad because Glenda's now holding this. This. This training wand. And she's like, I cannot.

[Jacob]

I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's like, I feel like an. Like, I feel like such a. For doing this. And then Fiyero is like, I just love the. Elphaba doesn't care. She's like, elphaba does care.

[Monet X Change]

She's just. For doing that, for. For being mean.

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's like. She's like. You know, she's like. And if you was, like, one thing I can say about Alphabet, she doesn't care. And then Glenna goes, she does care. She just pretends it helps save her feelings. So then Glinda and Elphaba. So then Glinda goes and does this really bad dance with her. And because Glinda's doing it, and she is the Regina George of the school. And now everyone likes to dance. And now everyone loves Elphaba. It's a little ruder. The writing is a little. They resolve that a little fast, in my opinion, but that's not the point. So now everyone loves Elphaba, and Elphaba and Glinda are. Elphaba's now invited to see the wizard of Oz. She's gonna actually meet the wizard of Oz, right? And she's like, glinda, come with me. We're best friends. We're literally best friends as of, like, 24 hours ago. Come.

[Monet X Change]

Come with me, please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then they get there, and that's when Alpha finds out the wizard does not the wizard does not have powers. He has zero powers. She finds this out because she. She. He uses Elphaba to make the monkeys fly. The monkeys have wings. They were just. They were just regular monkeys. And then she read from the book, and then the monkeys all got wings. They started flying. And he's like, yes, now I have spies in the skies. Now we're going to be able to see everything all these animals are doing, and we're going to be able to lock these animals up and take them out of office and take them out of our.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, question.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

How does. How did the wizard con. Everyone's thinking he has power. Like, how? Like, is he, like, the biggest con man of the century? How did he trick everyone to believe that he's so powerful?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. He is the biggest con man of the century. So the wizard flew into Oz on a hot air balloon, and they had never seen a hot air balloon. They think it's some big magical contraption. And then he lands. And also, he's like a traveling, like, circus act. Medicine man, charlatan, con artist. So he knows, like, magic tricks, like sleight of hand, magic tricks. And through this and his machines, he convinces everyone that he is powerful and that they should subject themselves to him, and they do.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. Wow. I'm very excited to watch the show. I really. I was trying to watch Go see the show, the musical, before I saw it, but I just got caught up in going to see Sunset Boulevard and said, other musicals, but it'll be fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever.

[Monet X Change]

I'm excited to see it anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did they boo Nicole when you went?

[Monet X Change]

I wasn't there. So the night I went, it was a Tuesday. This is before the whole thing happened. And she doesn't work Tuesdays. Her understudy or the other woman goes on on Tuesdays.

[Jacob]

Mandy Gonzalez.

[Monet X Change]

Mandy Gonzalez, who was great. This show, the production is really cool. Maybe you want to see the original. Not the original. The movie. The movie, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you saying Manny or Mandy? Mandy.

[Jacob]

Mandy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How was the show?

[Monet X Change]

The show is so good. I think it's really cool. I think it's fierce, the dancing. And I think the production is really good. I know Patti LuPone originated it in 93. Did you see her talking about it on the View?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. What'd she say?

[Monet X Change]

She's just so cunty. They were talking about on the View. And then she was like, yeah, I'm gonna go see Sunset Boulevard. Blah, blah, blah. And Joy was like, yeah, I heard it's good. She's like. She's like, we'll see. The jury's out. And Joy was like, why? The show was good. Everyone said it's good. She's like, everyone doesn't have taste. I was like, I can't, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Patti LuPone is low key, a very jealous woman. She famously does not like Madonna. She says Madonna is a movie killer, but she has a particular vitriol for anyone who has played a role that she originated. So Patti LuPone originated the role of Evita on Broadway, Madonna played the role in the movie, and now she doesn't like Madonna.

[Jacob]

Ok, well, there's a little bit more drama there as well. So Andrew Lloyd Webber and Patti LuPone have beef because she originated the role on the West End. And then it was expected that she was gonna move the show over to Broadway. And Andrew Lloyd Webber was like, yes, darling, we're taking you to Broadway. And then they last minute switched her out and cast Glenn Close in the Broadway version.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And here's my question.

[Jacob]

So Patti LuPone is technically not the original Broadway cast of Sunset Boulevard. It's technically Glenn Close, but she originated the role on the West End in London before the show opened up.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. Me either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At what point do we acknowledge if Patti LuPone is beefing with everybody? Maybe it's Patti LuPone.

[Monet X Change]

So at what point maybe she's to acknowledge if sibling rivalries beefing with all these new queens? Maybe it's sibling rivalry. Does that work for us, too?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it doesn't work for us. It's them. No, it's different for us. It's them. It's them. We don't have beef. But also they go, Monet being French again. Oui, oui, bitch. Oui, oui.

[Monet X Change]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You, bitch.

[Jacob]

You.

[Monet X Change]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have beef with all these queens.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, no, Bob, come on now. Don't be ridiculous. I think it is on record that I am one of the nicest queens on RuPaul's Draggers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you know, that's because you want a miscongeniality.

[Monet X Change]

No, just in life. A lot of the queens, everyone. Naomi has said it, Kim Chi has said it. Plastique has said it. Brooke Lynn Hytes has said it. Adore has said it. Audiences saying, monet, you are literally one of the. You are one of the nicest girls.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They said nicest. I mean, I think you're one of the funnest. I would not call you one of the nicest.

[Monet X Change]

And what is fun about, like, I'm one of the funnest. Like, bitch. What? Why? Why am I one of the Funnest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you're really fun. I think you're funny. You have good ideas. You have a really good sense of humor. You roll with the punches. You're adaptable. You're just a fun person to be around.

[Monet X Change]

Would you say that I'm go with the flow

[Bob the Drag Queen]

sometimes, but sometimes you can really fight against the current for no damn reason, for no good damn reason. And it's like, girl, just let the flow go take you. Girl, why are you fighting? Why are you trying to go up? Why are you trying to swim up the Nile? You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

I think that I am very go with the flow. I think that that was one of the things when Andy and I first got together, I was like, yeah, I'm very, very good with the flow. I like. But also, you know, that's.

[Jacob]

That.

[Monet X Change]

Were you and Jacob. Jacob. Were you and Jacob ever in a. I mean, I know the answer is yes, but you probably gonna say no. Y' all were. There was clearly, like, a honeymoon butterfly phase, right, With y'?

[Jacob]

All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're still in it. What do you mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Jacob]

What are you talking about, Monet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I get butterflies every time I see Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

No, that's not what that means. Butterflies meaning, like, in the first couple of months when you first meet someone, you're just amenable to everything, even the things you don't want to do. You're, like, saying yes to do things that you would not really want to do because you just want to be with that person and spend some time with them, regardless of something that makes you not happy to do it.

[Jacob]

I've never felt that way. Everything he wants to do, I would love to do because. Because he's the love of my life.

[Monet X Change]

He's my baby, Jacob. If y' all want to believe this shit these two bitches is peddling, y', all, I have some shit out of my ass I need to sell you, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have butterflies right now. Just because Jacob spoke. I'm. I'm getting. I'm dizzy. I'm dizzy again. Did I sing oh, my baby, I love you so much, Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

So silly. Jacob, do you want to sing your Defying Gravity?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Jacob. It'll be fun. Do you want to do a Patreon exclusive after this episode is done filming?

[Jacob]

Yeah, maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, well, maybe there'll be a Patreon exclusive with Jacob doing his. I want to tell you right now, I have been singing Defying Gravity in the shower nonstop for a month solid now, and I think that I've come to this conclusion If I could sing, I would be one of those singers who always had good ideas. People be like, wow, what a great choice. What a great choice. I don't have the execution, but the ideas are in my head.

[Monet X Change]

But I don't think there's a singer that I always. I don't think, like, is there a singer? We're always like, oh, they have great choice. I guess it's someone who's always singing covers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But like, well, Eden. Well, Eden Espinosa always makes great choices in my opinion. So Eden Espinosa is the one who goes Fiero. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

She goes Fiero Fiero,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

which was a great choice because most people go fiyero, Fiyero. But she went Fiero. Like she makes her sakon singbla, which a lot of people don't talk. When people talk about black alphabets, for some reason, sakan singbla does not come up in the conversation. We get a lot of Brandy Chiffon, Matt Money. This is very theater nerdy. I want y' all to know this is. I'm gonna lose a lot of the room on this one. But for those of you who do love this conversation, you're gonna feel very seen. Brandy Chiffon Massey is, is. Is widely credited as the first black Elphaba. Well, I. I'm pretty sure Sacon Singbla

[Jacob]

sang Sacon was the standby. Yeah, she was the first one, but she wasn't the principal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's what I was getting. I was getting there. So the first black woman Broadway was Sacon, but Sacon was not cast in the official role. Sacon was in was the standby or an understudy. But Brandy Chiffon Massey was the first black woman to actually be cast as Elphaba.

[Monet X Change]

And Brandy Chiffon Massey, that's a good name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And there's only been. There's only been like one or two women who've actually played both roles who played both Glenda and Elphaba. And I gotta say that takes some mother range to play both those roles is pretty because they are so dis.

[Monet X Change]

Vocally or range? Acting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Acting wise.

[Monet X Change]

Got it, Got it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And vocally, I mean, Glinda hit some really, really high notes like Glenda is hitting. Glenda is a full on soprano. Soprano. What do you call the super duper sopranos?

[Monet X Change]

Like coloratura? Sure she is high note or like a spinto. Spinto is like super high. And very, like very color tours are. Because they can. They have a very. They can do a lot of melismas and stuff like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is Kristin Chenoweth. One of those, I think.

[Monet X Change]

I think Kristin Chenoweth does well because she sings Glitter. Glitter and Be Gay. Right? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. From Candide. So. Yeah. So Glinda is. Has. Elphaba does not hit notes as high as. I'm pretty sure Alphabism is an alto, and I'm pretty sure that Glinda is a soprano. So vocally, it takes range. But also.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, Elphaba is not an alto?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is she? She's a soprano.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. That is soprano for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. What alto is. Bring me. That's not alto.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, Toni Braxton could do it.

[Monet X Change]

You think Tony Braxton could get up dancing. Defying Gravity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Defying Gravity?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. No, Is that alto?

[Jacob]

I think.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think Sza is an alto for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Could you do Sza doing Defying Gravity real quick?

[Monet X Change]

No, I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, nothing to do with me.

[Monet X Change]

Move on. This isn't a Broadway role.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Actually, I don't know what.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what role would be, but I would love to see Sza in a roll of rivalry. We have to. Oh, my God, Bob. As the best. Listen, Sza and Sza and Keke Palmer made our movie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What movie?

[Monet X Change]

They have a movie coming out called One of Them Days. I was like, this is what Siv and rivalry could have been, but we were too busy in these bomo beauty streets.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's it. Please, please. What's it about?

[Monet X Change]

It's not the same thing, but it's like a buddy comedy of them. They're two roommates, best friends living together, and it's like A Series of Unfortunate Events about them not being able to pay their rent and trying to get rent money.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

SZA's a comedic actor.

[Monet X Change]

She is in this role. I mean, I think this might be her acting debut.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think. I don't know. Well, fierce, good for her. But yeah, I think that, like, there. There's this. I sent Jacob this girl. Maybe if. If I can find this clip, I will put it in here right now. I think this girl on Tik Tok did such a great. So, Jacob, go ahead and. Go ahead and hit him with. Let Monet here.

[Shannon Maldonado]

Whenever I see someone less fortunate than I am and let's face it, who isn't less fortunate than I My tender heart tends to start to believe and when someone needs a makeover I simply have to take over I know. I know exactly what they need.

[Monet X Change]

She would have sang.

[Shannon Maldonado]

And even in your case, though, it's the toughest case I've yet to face. Don't Worry. I'm determined to succeed. Follow my lead.

[Monet X Change]

I thought, this is like, that's only spicy Glenda. It's Spicy Glenda.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She is Spicy Glenda. So she's this girl who I stumbled across on Tick Tock. She's an amazing. Her name is Eternity and. Well, her TikTok name is Eternity anyway.

[Jacob]

And her whole thing is official Eternity with two wives. Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her whole thing is she is, like, always cutting fruit or peeling grapes or chopping watermelon or de seeding pomegranates or cutting open a mango or papaya. And then she sings songs while she's doing it. And she has such a beautiful little chipper, little fun voice. I'm, like, obsessed. She's so good. And when she did, she did define gravity. And to be honest, it sounded like Elphaba singing. It sounded like Glinda singing Defying Gravity. It was like, this is the happiest version of Defying Gravity. Like, why the hell this bitch so happy? What the hell this bitch gotta laugh about? But you are an outlaw. The hell you laughing about, bitch? But I think she'd been a really. She'd have been a really good Glinda, though. Like, a really good Glinda on Broadway or something. Yeah. Who'd you cast in something less. Okay, name a musical that's not Broadway that you know. Well, I mean, that's not a movie that you know well.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, it's not a movie. You know, I was about to say rant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It should be a movie. So you know Chicago well, right?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't. I've never seen Chicago the movie.

[Jacob]

No, no, she's doing a bit.

[Monet X Change]

No, we talk about. I've never seen a movie. Or the Broadway shock. Then I also jinx in it, but it didn't work out. I've never seen the movie musical either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. Chicago is one of the best movie musicals. Literally.

[Monet X Change]

You said that last time I said this, and I believe you. I just haven't had a chance to see it. It also seems like it's so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You haven't had an hour and 30 minutes. You've been busy. Every motherfucking two hours I watch it.

[Monet X Change]

Baby. Can we.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When I get.

[Monet X Change]

I get back home on Thursday, we're both home for a little while. Can we watch it together?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would. I. Let me tell you right now, one of my favorite things is showing people Dreamgirls, Chicago and Little Tropical Horrors and the Color Purple. I love showing people these movies. I love showing people these movies. I really love it. I love moving out of my house. I would be watching you the whole time. I won't be watching. I'm watching you the whole time. Eddie.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Bob. When?

[Jacob]

Bob.

[Monet X Change]

When is the movie? Bob really wants you to see you, too. And, like, let's say we're watching the thing. If I, for that moment, I, like, bend down to look at my phone, he's like, he'll fall back. You're going back and he'll fall. Like, when. I need to see this. When I put the phone down. You need to watch this right now. You are soaked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're rewinding, we're rewinding. And that is that. And it's gonna be like that the whole movie. Sit there and look at the screen. This is an important film.

[Monet X Change]

Are we watching in my house or your house?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your house. Your house is my hang. Is my social spot.

[Monet X Change]

I love that. I love having you over there. You know, I need to give you the codes for my doors and stuff, so you always have access. Is that something, huh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll just climb over the fence. It's okay.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna give you the gate. Go for sure. Cause, nigga, I'm tired of this. Nigga asked me to unlock the gate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, what else am I supposed to do at your door? Kick it in. You never come to my house anymore. Which is very shady, by the way.

[Monet X Change]

I literally just asked you to do that in my house or your house? You said my house. I was literally offering you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I come over, I'd be like, hey, I'm popping over. You never pop over.

[Monet X Change]

I was just talking to someone about that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bring back.

[Monet X Change]

Stopping at people's homes. Back in. When I was a kid, people used to just swing by our house. Also, we didn't have cell phones back then. Does that make sense? People would just swing by.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, be the change you want to see in the world, bitch. Swing by, shorty. Swing my way.

[Monet X Change]

But also, to be fair, you've been away for two years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Years.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, years. You've been away for two years. You don't come over anymore because you've been gone for literally two years.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so you know Rent well, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I know Renton very well.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Less cast. Rent. Rent. 20, 24. Ooh.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, okay. And look, you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll name someone. Or you. It can be. Yeah, I mean, preferably names. People know it. We're doing. We're doing a blockbuster movie here.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, well, it's already been made a movie, but we're doing a new cast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they remake movies all the time.

[Monet X Change]

Okay,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

so let's Start with Roger.

[Monet X Change]

Roger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Roger has got to be a musician.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I think Harry Styles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But he's British. Can he. Can he not be British? Does he have an American accent?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he does. He's a. He's a. He's a. He's an actor. He's a. He's in American roles before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never heard him sing. Does he have like a raspy voice? You don't have to have a raspy voice, but that rose, you don't have to. Typically, you don't have to. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. I'm gonna give you that. All right, Harry Styles. All right. I'm gonna now cast Collins.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I'm gonna give Collins to Colman Domingo.

[Monet X Change]

Can Colman sing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, girl. He's in Color Purple.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, he was, he was. But also in what world they're supposed to be mutual age friends. Are Colman Domingo and Harry Styles the friends in this universe?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Collins is a college professor.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he is a college professor, but I don't think he's like a old. He's like. I think he's a young new professor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're not mutual age. Actually, Mimi is the. Not Mimi. Yeah, Mimi is the youngest.

[Jacob]

She's like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's like 19 years old. And the rest of them are like in their 30s or 20s. Yes. They're not all the same age, actually.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I can see that. Casting. What about your turn for Mark? Mark is a film director.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah,

[Monet X Change]

Mark.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is a tough one, huh?

[Monet X Change]

It is a hard one. I think Mark can be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Remember, the actor's gay, but the character's straight. Just remember, keep that in mind.

[Monet X Change]

The actor is gay, but the character.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is the character straight?

[Monet X Change]

Why does the actor have to be gay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anthony Rapp is gay, but Mark is straight.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but we don't have to keep that. So we can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just saying, remember that Mark is straight.

[Monet X Change]

Right. I think that. That Mark should be played by. I'm going to give Ryan Reynolds.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ryan the Deadpool.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. This is stunt casting. All right? I can't take it away. I can't. I can't.

[Jacob]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've cast. You are. You've already done it. You've already done it. I can't take it away from you. It's done. It's fine. I'm going to go ahead and give Mimi. Uh huh. Wait, how old is lil mama Selena Gomez?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I think she's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think she's like, it's gonna be Sabrina Carpenter. Sabrina Carpenter. Zendaya.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's a good one. Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob, come through with a good casting. Okay. Zendaya is Mimi and I make. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

And who's. Who's Tracy Thomas? Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tracy Thomas is. What's the character's name?

[Monet X Change]

Jacob, the samples want to lay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a game of Joanne. Joanne.

[Monet X Change]

Joanne is going to be Coco Jones down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Okay. And I think that Maureen is going to be Chapel Roan.

[Jacob]

Camilla Cabello.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's Chap. For me, it's got to be Chapel Roan. Hear me out. Chapel Roan is Maureen.

[Monet X Change]

That'll be good. That's good. That's good. That's really good. And for angel, who do we have left? Angel. Ooh, Valentina Rontu.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, what's her name? What's her name? From Pose.

[Monet X Change]

MJ Rodriguez.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the light skinned one.

[Monet X Change]

Dylan Burnside d'. Von.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Jacob, the light skinned lady from Pose.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, India Moore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

India Moore.

[Monet X Change]

No, but I think in the movie angel is. Angel is a gay man. Right. Just a drag queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, angel is gender non conforming.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I don't know that angel ever explicitly says that she is a gay man. But when she does say brother at one point, she does go brothers. Right. Maybe it's like campy.

[Monet X Change]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so if we have to give it to a gay man, maybe it could be. Oh, this is a tough one. Oh, nah. What? Nah? Sibley. Johnny Sibley. Nah. Too butch.

[Monet X Change]

Too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Troy Svon. No choice. Is too white.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he's way too white.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. Who's it gonna be?

[Monet X Change]

Who's gonna be our angel in this production?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow, this is a tough one. Okay, chat, let us know. Comment below. Who you think we should cast as angel in the. The. The. The sibling rivalry's community theater production of Rent.

[Monet X Change]

And Benny, he's got. And Benny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, shit. Benny.

[Monet X Change]

I think Benny should be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I forgot about Benny.

[Monet X Change]

I think Benny should be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm gonna take Colin Domingo out.

[Jacob]

Who?

[Monet X Change]

Michael B. Jordan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Before we go, I want to say something. I have this idea and I want to put it out there in the world.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's called the Queer Community Theater.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, I like that. Queer. I like the alliteration. The Queer Community Theater.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a community theater, but it is. But we bring in these big stars to play like one role in a show. Like, for example, it's a community theater and we do a production of

[Monet X Change]

Jesus

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Christ Superstar, but we bring in like, I don't know, some big star to play some queer Star to play Jesus in this production. It's like one big name in the queer community theater.

[Monet X Change]

I'm into that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We did the Wiz. I would cast you as Evelyn.

[Monet X Change]

No, I want to be the wizard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You want to be the wizard?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I want to be the wizard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you like that song?

[Monet X Change]

I don't like the song, but I like the role. And I remember I gotta leave.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I pack my bags and I'm going,

[Monet X Change]

I'll be the wizard. But also, so when it's community theater, that means everyone's making the same. Right? So, like, how do you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do we afford community theater? No one makes anything, girl. You pay to do community theater.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I did. I paid to do community theater. You basically pay to put the production on, but then we'd bring in one name. But we could probably offset. Like, if we're able to bring in a big name, one big name. We could actually charge a little more, and then the participants don't have to pay to be a part of it, you know?

[Jacob]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever done community theater, Mo?

[Monet X Change]

No. No, not at all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's honestly so, like, I low key miss my community theater days. Like, it was so fun. I should join a community theater.

[Monet X Change]

I'm sure everyone in la you can join.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think? I feel like la, like. Like, I don't think New York City has community theater.

[Monet X Change]

You. New York city, of all places, doesn't have community theater. That seems wild. I mean, I don't know, but that seems like it'll be weird.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I feel like because New York City is so professional, there is no, like, where would they be going?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, they have small, little theaters all over the city.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but they're all professional. Community theater is notoriously not professional. Like, no one's getting paid except maybe the director, maybe. And even then, they're usually donating their time, too. I want to. I'm putting this out there in the world. Listen to me. All within the sound of my voice. I would like to make my stage direction debut. Well, it's actually not my debut. I've actually directed before. I actually directed Honey Davenport's show, Honey Makes the World Go around at Excel nightclub years ago. But I would like to direct a musical at a community theater. I really want this. I want to give. I want to spend, like, a month or two directing a musical. I want to do Seussical, the musical. I want to do Chicago. I want to do Hairspray. I want to do Jesus Christ Superstar. I would like to direct Annie. I Would like to direct one of these shows. So if you are a community theater out there in. In like, Oklahoma. But. But I'm not gonna. I'm gonna be picky. I want a community theater with a budget. I. I came from a community theater with a budget. Honey, we had budget down.

[Monet X Change]

But what do you. But where do you get the budgets from the people paying to do it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't even know where they got their budget. I mean, it was part of the Clayton county schools Performing arts center. And there's a lot of volunteers, like, a lot of people. But like the shop. The people from the shop were volunteering their time. It's all just people who have these skills, but they don't really have a desire or maybe the ability to work in this field professionally. But they still want to sing and dance and build sets and make costumes.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So if there's a community theater out there that wants me to direct their show, hit me up.

[Monet X Change]

I'll come see it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you be in it?

[Monet X Change]

Depending.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I'll make it a role where you can. Like for example, in Jesus Christ Superstar, there's a role for King Herod. And then he's in two scenes, one song, and then the other scene, he's just sitting there. He's not even doing it. He's just sitting there. Literally, just sitting there.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I think in 2025, I'm focusing my energy on only stand up and Monet talks and things that I just want to do for fun. So. So I'm into it. All right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And let's focus on give back, as in give back my protein. Thank you all for coming on the podcast today. Everyone have a good day.

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