The One Where We Talk About RENAISSANCE

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – “The One Where We Talk About RENAISSANCE”

Release Date: August 10, 2022
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change

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Main Theme & Purpose

In this infectiously comedic episode of Sibling Rivalry, Bob and Monét dive into Beyoncé’s new album "Renaissance," sharing their immediate, irreverent, and earnest reactions. Expect the duo to blend music critique, deep fan knowledge, drag community insight, industry tea (especially about music rights and sampling), and their signature bickering chemistry. Amidst memes, personal anecdotes, and hilarious tangents—including music production, fan interactions, the power of Oprah, and why Bob never asks for food at Monet’s house—the episode ultimately celebrates queer Black artistry and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fridge Raid, Lemonheads, and Merch Memories

Timestamps: 01:21–04:43

• Bob and Monét kick off with classic playful squabbling over Bob raiding Monét’s fridge, recounting merch stories, and sharing their mutual love of random snacks (lemonheads, apples).

  "This shirt is actually quite iconic, and I feel like I should bring it back." – Bob (02:22)
  "I think it's my favorite merch that you ever made." – Monét (02:29)
  "Bob comes to my house. Bob is a hood, country ass nigga... sometimes Bob doesn't even say hello, he walks straight to the fridge and be like, 'Damn nigga, you don't got nothing in here.'" – Monét (02:58)

2. Megan Thee Stallion Fandom & Lyric Recitation

Timestamps: 03:37–05:43

• The hosts exchange opinions on Megan Thee Stallion’s fandom (“the Hotties”) and recite favorite lyrics from "Plan B," debating which tracks resonate hardest.

  "Use a fuck nigga, still can’t believe I used to fuck with you. Popping plan B's cuz I ain’t planning to be stuck with you. Damn." – Monét rapping Megan (04:22)
  "Having a baby is just keeping sperm as a pet... That’s surreal shit." – Monét (05:43)

3. The Beyoncé “Renaissance” Album Deep Dive

A. First Impressions, Flow, and Standout Tracks

Timestamps: 12:12–13:55

• Monét is effusive with praise for Renaissance, highlighting seamless production and her favorite tracks: "Virgo's Groove," "Summer Renaissance," and "Pure/Honey."

  "This album is so fucking good. Like, so good. The way it is produced, they just flow so well together, I don’t even realize five songs have gone by." – Monét (13:17)

• Bob has only partially listened, but notes the cultural impact and memes swirling around the release.

B. Sampling, Credits, and Artist Rights

Timestamps: 13:55–16:45 & 18:53–20:59

• Bob drops bombshells about legendary house artist Kevin Aviance not knowing he’d be credited, and the controversy with Kelis (“Milkshake”) over rights, sampling, and the shadowy side of music publishing:

  "Did you know that Kevin Aviance didn’t know that she was... had a writing credit on the album until it came out?" – Bob (13:55)
  "What happens is Kevin doesn’t own that song, which was my point. So he probably doesn’t have any publishing on it or anything." – Monét (14:38)
  "Kelis... accused Pharrell of taking all the publishing... if you own a song, that's how you make a lot of money. When you don't own publishing, that's how you lose out on a lot of money." – Monét (15:13)

• They expand this thread to Michael Jackson buying the Beatles' catalog, comparing music industry dynamics across eras:

  "Did you ever hear about the story between Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney? ...He bought all the Beatles songs." – Bob (20:07)

C. Beyoncé’s Status

Timestamps: 24:24–25:31

• Bob resists labeling Beyoncé solely as a "great female artist," arguing against gendered categorization:

  "I really am not remotely interested in categorizing Beyoncé as the greatest...female... as if she’s not a great [artist]." – Bob (24:31)

4. Gendered Assumptions & Accountability

Timestamps: 25:31–27:18

• Monét confesses to having assumed an older male co-worker at her gym was “the boss,” publicly apologizing and examining unconscious bias.

  "Why would I assume just because he’s the oldest guy working there he’s the boss? She ain’t no boss, he’s her co-worker." – Monét (26:13) "I felt really bad about it. I could not stop thinking about it for the rest of the day. I was like, ew." – Monét (27:13)

5. Behind the Drag Curtain: Music Projects & Industry Tea

Timestamps: 28:58–36:20

• Both are working on new music: Bob on an EP (jokingly "Extra Pussy"), Monét on a pair of EPs or a double album.

• They reflect on managing careers, producing music as independent drag artists, and the importance of their management team (PEG).

  "When it comes to managing drag queens, we have the best managers in the world... I genuinely think there is not a company out there in the world that understands managing drag queens better than PG." – Bob (31:31)

• Bob shares disappointment over a lackluster Patreon response to a music preview, with Monét teasing him for feeling underappreciated.

  "I opened up to you about this, and you are literally laughing at me. This is insane." – Bob (30:18)

• Both discuss their dreams to one day perform drag music with live bands and the realities of building a concert from scratch.

Notable Quotes

"Honestly, I'm happy to steer. I want to talk to you about the music that you are working on... I actually did a sneak peek of my song 'Bitch Like Me.'" – Bob (28:58)
"I met with this music manager and he had a great idea... you should do a double side, like two EPs as opposed to one LP." – Monét (34:13)

6. Sibling Rivalry Squabbles & Friendship Dynamics

Timestamps: 36:12–45:32

• The hosts launch into signature, playful "dragging" over who is funnier, supportive, or possibly gaslighting the other about missing clothes, Doc Martens, and the true events of mutual "borrowing."

  "...You're just creating a narrative that's like, whatever it was makes me right and you wrong. That's all I know." – Bob (44:21) "I've given Bob many things over the years, and I don't ever hold it over his head..." – Monét (48:02)

7. Drag Community & Shout-Outs

Timestamps: 31:54–32:29 & 49:01–53:27

• Shout-outs to drag management history, Misunderstood, and early drag tours.
• Discussion of potential Sibling Rivalry x The Read crossover, with high praise for Kid Fury’s beauty and influence in Black queer media.

  "Kid Fury is so beautiful... He's also very funny." – Monét (49:20)

• Reflections on queer representation (or lack thereof) in shows like Insecure and "Rap Sh!t," with a critique of mainstream media’s storytelling choices.

8. "Shock Jocks" and The Power (and Peril) of Media Influence

Timestamps: 53:44–62:55

• Deep critique of "shock jocks" like Charlamagne Tha God, noting the problematic aspects of their methods and their mainstream rewards.

  "...he’s done some really nasty stuff on the show. Sexist, homophobic, transphobic, 100% misogynistic. Just horrible gutter shit." – Bob (54:13)

• They recount infamous moments (Birdman vs. The Breakfast Club) and the culture of confrontation and lawsuits in celebrity media.
• Both discuss how lawsuits have shaped pop culture (including the beef industry vs. Oprah).

9. The Oprah Effect & Cultural Capital

Timestamps: 61:03–63:49

• A look at how Oprah’s endorsement could make or crash entire industries, citing the infamous beef industry lawsuit:

  "Oprah would say, 'I like cheese.' Cheese would sell out in every supermarket." – Monét (61:46)

• Commentary on Oprah's quintessential influence, her unparalleled reach, and the intersection of race and power in media scrutiny:

  "There's also some misogyny and racism involved in that. Because Oprah was not the only person reporting on mad cow disease." – Bob (62:28)

10. Closing Banter: Friendship Boundaries

Timestamps: 40:37–42:51

• They agree they’re not the friends who prank, hit, or fart on each other; draw lines about friendship boundaries and mutual respect.

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Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes

• On Renaissance’s seamlessness:

  "Like five songs go by and the way it is produced, they just flow so well together... Virgo's Groove, Summer Renaissance, Pure/Honey. Oh, this...it is so fucking good, bitch." – Monét (13:17)

• On Beyoncé fan memes:

  "One of my favorite memes is people saying, I trying to spell 'Renaissance' is really fucking me up. I'm just gonna start calling her Renee." – Bob (12:22)

• Music industry tea:

  "Kelis—she's mad at Pharrell because she's saying Pharrell has, like, a business of...getting writing and publishing credits on people's records, and he has not written one single verse." – Monét (19:16)

• On being called out about fan support:

  "I opened up to you about this, and you are literally laughing at me now. This is insane." – Bob (30:18)

• On media lawsuits:

  "The beef industry sued Oprah Winfrey...All Oprah said was, 'I will never eat a burger again.' That is all she said." – Bob (61:23)

• Oprah’s legendary power:

  "Oprah would say, I like cheese. Cheese would sell out in every supermarket." – Monét (61:46)

• Setting friendship boundaries:

  "We're not those type of friends that, like, fart on each other, blah, blah, blah. We're not those type of friends. I don't—I’ve never seen or smelt Bob fart and vice versa." – Monét (40:37)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |---------------------------------------------|------------------| | Show open, banter, and merch stories | 01:21–04:43 | | Megan Thee Stallion & “Plan B” | 03:37–05:43 | | Lemonheads, snacks, and friendship riffs | 05:43–06:47 | | Beyoncé’s “Renaissance” talk | 12:12–16:45 | | Music sampling, credits, and industry tea | 13:55–16:45; 18:53–20:59 | | Michael Jackson, Beatles, publishing rights | 20:00–22:29 | | Gendered workplace assumptions & apology | 25:31–27:18 | | Music projects, sneak peeks, Patreon drama | 28:58–36:20 | | Drag management praise & drag history | 31:54–32:29 | | Crossover wishes and queer TV discussion | 49:01–53:27 | | Shock jocks & Breakfast Club critique | 53:44–56:04 | | Oprah, lawsuits, & cultural capital | 61:03–63:49 |

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Final Thoughts & Tone

Sibling Rivalry’s “Renaissance” episode is a comedic, rapid-fire, and often deeply insightful peek into Black queer culture, music industry realities, and the hosts’ own creative journeys. Bob and Monét’s banter remains riotous, sometimes biting, but always underpinned by genuine friendship and mutual admiration. Music and media are dissected with equal parts reverence, side-eye, and industry acumen.

This episode is essential listening for fans of Beyoncé, Drag Race, or just anyone who loves quick-witted, culturally plugged-in, and irreverently honest conversations about what’s popping in Black queer pop culture.

Transcript

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[Monet x Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm addicted.

[Monet x Change]

To start your free [e-mail].

[Bob the Drag Queen]

my name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet x Change]

And I'm Monet x Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is simply rivalry.

[Monet x Change]

On today's episode, we discuss Renaissance. I raid Monet's fridge, and we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I opened up to you about this, and you are literally laughing at me now. This is insane. And we found out what made Monet say this.

[Monet x Change]

Oprah would say, I like cheese. Cheese would sell out in every supermarket.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All the white folks keep breaking their neck. They trying to sell. My name is Bob the Ugh is Shrek.

[Monet x Change]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you interrupted me. I was singing a song by Cupcake.

[Monet x Change]

Monet. Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was just singing a cupcake song. Why would you interrupt me when I was singing a beautiful black artist?

[Monet x Change]

This is wild. Monet, you just. Monet, I just never heard you say that you love apples. This is so random. I love apples. Monet, when was the last time you had an apple? When was the last time you had apple?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This shirt is actually quite iconic, and I feel like I should bring it back.

[Monet x Change]

I think it's my favorite merch that you ever made. And, yeah, I had to buy this myself because y' all know this greedy ass nigga would've given one for free. So I'm at his fucking show, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

this greedy ass nigga will ask for one for free. Oh, I know.

[Monet x Change]

No, no, you. Yeah, you should.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For you. You ask for One for free.

[Monet x Change]

No, no, nigga, you. First of all, Bob won't ask. Bob will come to my house. Let me tell y', all, I think I said this before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob.

[Monet x Change]

Bob comes up to your house. Bob is a hood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Country ass nigga.

[Monet x Change]

This nigga comes to my house. But sometimes Bob doesn't even say hello to me. He will walk up the stairs to my home, go straight to the fridge and be like, damn, nigga, you know you don't got nothing in here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I wanna point out that I used to ask Monet, can I have some this? And Monet said, you don't have to ask for those things in my home. So I skipped the formalities. I took your note. I took the note. I'm very good at taking the note,

[Monet x Change]

but at least have some couth. The first thing you say, you say like, damn, nigga, you don't got nothing in here. That is some brother. The fifth floor shit. That is the hood behavior.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, sometimes you don't be having nothing. How y' all live like this,

[Monet x Change]

Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet x Change]

What does Megan Thee stallion call her? Fans. Are they ponies?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. I don't think she has a phrase name for her fans.

[Commercial Narrator]

There is. She's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, what is it?

[Monet x Change]

Oh. Oh, Hotties. The Hotties.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, the hottest.

[Monet x Change]

The Hotties. Yeah. Do you know Plan B by Megan Thee Stallion? I think it is one of her best tracks. One of her best records.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm perfectly a fan of her first track from Good News.

[Monet x Change]

Which is what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Captain Hook? No. Shots Fired.

[Monet x Change]

Oh. Oh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. I'm talking about. I'm Tory Lanez.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Imagine me giving a fuck. It was your fucking birthday. You weren't your feelings. I just thought it was another Thursday.

[Monet x Change]

Use a fuck, nigga. Still can't believe I used to fuck with you Popping plan B's Cause I ain't planning to be stuck with you Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you ran out of work.

[Monet x Change]

I'm the only reason that your goofy ass got bitches all them hoes wanna look like me, bitch most likely fully you just to fight me Damn. Yo, that is some. I'll be popping plan B's because I don't. Because I ain't planned to be stuck with you that is some. Do you know what I saw? Oh, my God. I'm gonna fuck it up. You've probably seen this, too. It was like. Some of y' all are weird. Have you ever thought about that? Babies are

[Bob the Drag Queen]

pets.

[Monet x Change]

Likening babies to sperm to sperm. Pets. I Forget the phrasing of it. It's a funny meme. I saw that meme the other day and it took me out. I was rolling. I'm fucking it up. I'm bastardizing. I should have screenshotted it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did see one woman say children crotch fruit, which really got me together. I mean, no one ever talks about how great cupcake is, but I just want to remind you all this cupcake is great. You, picture is ugly and dusty and none of y' all matter Money all owe me I'm feeling real flatter we walking this bitch straight dripping like I was trying to get to the toilet But I couldn't hold bottle first class only when I'm riding on the jet all the white folks keep breaking they neck they trying to see if I'm black and a threat But I'm covered in green they're like, ooh, it's Shrek,

[Monet x Change]

bitch. I had some lemonheads today and it really turned me out. Oh, yeah. Having a baby is just keeping sperm as a pet. That is surreal shit. That is a long term pet that you get from a nigga. That shit. That's a pet for life. If you got a dog or a cat, that motherfucking gonna die within 15 years. A sperm pet you have it for. It gets its own life. That's wild. Some people's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you do? Dark.

[Monet x Change]

Too dark. Too dark.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was gonna say some people's pets live for 20 something years. What I was gonna say. Like parrots. Like parrots. Parrots live to be like 90 or 100.

[Monet x Change]

Is this rivalry or is this watchery rivalry? Oh, I didn't have a chance to watch Uno.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't have a chance to rewatch episode Uno today. Oh, okay, okay, I want to rewatch it. I don't want to do it from memory.

[Monet x Change]

I like your little shirt. Your shirt is cute. This is a nice shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. The top button's supposed to be. I like the button. My top button.

[Monet x Change]

It's very Caribbean. Anyone here who is West Indian? Y' all know Bob? Look like somebody Caribbean ass, daddy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You look like somebody Caribbean ass uncle Brown skin girl. Monet. Lil,

[Monet x Change]

you film that in your old

[Bob the Drag Queen]

place or your new place?

[Monet x Change]

Go ahead. That was in my old place. That was a. That was a pandemic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

TikTok, you are in such a good mood today. Thank God. I was nervous.

[Monet x Change]

See? Okay, so you want to put me in a bad mood is what you want. Why would I want to put you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

in a bad mood? I'm just saying, I'm celebrating your good

[Monet x Change]

mood because you're antagonizing me. Okay, you could have said. You could have said you're in a good mood. You want to get a good mood today? Thank God you're trying to take me there. I'm not. I'm not playing you like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So cruel. What in desiring to hurt an innocent caller

[Monet x Change]

with that I bop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How is your relationship with Lady Bunny going?

[Monet x Change]

It's going great. We're actually on set together doing some. Okay. So Bunny and I are doing this project. I'm hosting this thing for Hulu. Bunny's in the cast of Queens of

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the Other People There. So you think you're above her because you're hosting and she's in the cast? You think you're above her?

[Monet x Change]

Oh, my God. I just want to know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Quickly answer. Do you think you're above her? Just ask a question real quick, please. Are you above her?

[Monet x Change]

Yes. On the first day of the table read, we go to read this like, big ass script. And we're reading it, and before we start, the executive. I don't know if I can say names because that might spoil stuff. So anyway, the executive at Hulu, he songs us a thing and he's like telling us, like, if he's so happy to do this thing, yada yada. And he was like, you know how this started? I was listening to Ebony and Irony with Monet x Change and Lady Bunny and Monet went on this rant about, you know, I've had it with these big streaming people like Netflix and Hulu. They don't never want to send to drag queens anything big. We always like some like C list, D list thing. So he was like, because of that conversation, I was like, you know what? She's right. So now we're doing this like really big Hulu celebration thing coming out later this year because of a conversation like that. So I say all that to say is, you might think that sitting in the gym I doing is insignificant, or it may not matter to you later on in life, but little things can change the course of history for yourself. That's amazing. I didn't think that that conversation would go anywhere. I was just ranting on a podcast, you know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And how is you and Bunny's podcast going?

[Monet x Change]

It's good. We haven't had one in two weeks. Cause I have just with everything going on, I just been really busy. Bunny has been also really busy, so. Oh, my God, I'm looking. They need to do some surgery, which I've been in Drac since 5am I look crazy, so y' all gotta forgive me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why don't you just wash. Why don't you just wash your face and put on some shades?

[Monet x Change]

Because anytime. I just got home 10 minutes ago and we were set to do this now and then anytime you take drag off and you start and you don't shower, you kind of look like you adjust in drag and like you dark circle like, you know this. You kind of look like you were just in dragging. It doesn't. I'd rather just do this kind of half drag and be whatever than look like civilian me looking crazy. Don't you ever feel like that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mm. Well, I have darker skin, so I don't really get the dark. I mean, the darkener on my eyes just kinda looks like a little smoke. It just looks like I'm giving a little puss. Puss Looks like I'm Giving a little 2004 Adam Lambert, honey.

[Monet x Change]

Bitch, you mean 2022 Adam Lambert. I went to go see. I went to. What was I gonna say? Oh, and I had this little pimple coming in, which is so gross. I haven't had a pimple in forever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, congratulations. Welcome back.

[Monet x Change]

Anyways, I forgot I was gonna say

[Bob the Drag Queen]

to you, Adam Lambert, you said I was also going to go see.

[Monet x Change]

I don't remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ego Balova.

[Monet x Change]

Recently, I was very upset because one of me and Bob's favorite artists and friend was doing a show in la and I invited Bob and he couldn't go. And then I realized I ended up being busy as well, but I really wanted to go see it again. I wanted to experience it with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? Who? Stop trying to be so ionic.

[Monet x Change]

Burn, baby, burn. Disco inferno.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Amber Riley, burn.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's amazing. Are you and Amber Riley really close?

[Monet x Change]

We text and we. And we chat pretty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah. Not regularly, but we do not like. I don't text her like three times a week, like, hey, girl, but like, you know, here and there. Nice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you got married, Eva Riley, was she invited to your wedding?

[Monet x Change]

If you got married, I would send her an invitation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nice.

[Monet x Change]

I don't know if she'll come. I had lemonheads today. I haven't had lemon heads in so long. They were so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love lemon heads. Bring up lemon heads one more time. You're obsessed with lemon heads.

[Monet x Change]

Did I say. Did I say that earlier?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is your second time bringing up lemonheads.

[Monet x Change]

I don't know if you fuck with me. I don't remember saying that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm telling you, Mona, you had lemon heads today and they really turned you out.

[Monet x Change]

You were.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These lemon heads have gathered you. You are up on another echelon because

[Monet x Change]

of these lemon heads. Oh, I was going to say, Bob, have you delighted in the Renaissance?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, listen. Yeah, I haven't listened to the whole album yet, but I have listened to some of Renaissance. Yes.

[Monet x Change]

One of my memes we're talking about, like, brick my soul.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One of my favorite memes is from the. Is people saying, I trying to spell Renaissance is really fucking me up. I'm just gonna start calling her Renee.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, I saw the other one. They were like, Beyonce making this album. She went into the studio, did three bones of coke, texted Billy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, Lol. You mean to read it? Hold on, let me. Let me read it. So you won't. You won't.

[Commercial Narrator]

Hold on.

[Monet x Change]

Slaughter the. You slaughter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It says, because Layla.

[Monet x Change]

Did you have it? Did you save it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Layla texted to me. Oh, it says Beyonce walked into the. Beyonce walked into that studio, did four lines of coke, texted Billy Porter. Lol, faggot. Put her clit directly on the mic for an hour and a half and hit record Renaissance.

[Monet x Change]

I have to say, I know, and we have all talked about how brilliant we think Beyonce is, but this album is so fucking good. Like, so good. And I don't know if I just keep on zoning out. Cause I'm so into the music, but I just feel like. Like five songs go by and the way that it is produced, they just flow so well together. I don't even realize that five songs have gone by. I'm like, I thought just one was done. And Virgo's groove, it's Summer Renaissance. Pure honey. Oh, this. It is so fucking good, bitch. I cannot wait to be in Mesopotamia listening to Renee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you know that Kevin Aviance didn't know that she was. Had a writing credit on the album until it came out.

[Monet x Change]

Wait, wait, wait. Kevin Avianza didn't know that Beyonce. You mean Kevin Avianz?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kevon has a writing credit on this album and did not know until the album was released.

[Monet x Change]

Did he know that they were sampling his thing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kevin Adams had no clue. Unless he would listen to. Until he. Until someone was like. Until Mitch Farino walked up to Kevin and was like, girl, congratulations, you're on. On the track on Renaissance. And Kevin was like, what?

[Monet x Change]

So does he not. Okay, So, I mean, I don't know how that. Cause you know, there's a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What happens is Kevin doesn't own that song,

[Monet x Change]

which was my point. So he probably doesn't have any publishing on it or anything. So Kevin could be making coins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's not making any money. I don't think he is. Same with. Or if he is, Khalees also does it.

[Monet x Change]

Khalees.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because Pharrell owned that song, which.

[Monet x Change]

Well, which Khalisa. The whole thing about it saying that Pharrell is shady. The reason he used that song is because he knew that he took all the publishing on it. So if y' all don't know, when you own a song, it's like. It's like. It's like 200. It's basically one song. Like 200%. You have the 100% for the publishing society and 100% for, like, production and all and vocals and stuff and writing. So publishing is where a lot of artists make a lot of money. Cause you make that anytime your song is licensed or anytime your song isn't a thing or someone samples it, you get publishing rights to it because it's your intellectual property. When you don't own publishing, that. That's how, like, you lose out on a lot of money. Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And so. So you know, la la la la la.

[Monet x Change]

Going off on her Instagram bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I don't know. She didn't say whether or not she was making money. She was just saying that she thinks that she should have gotten a call beforehand or something. And I don't know if Kevin Affiance is getting my name, but I do know that Kevin Affiance had no clue that she was even on this song until Mitch Farino walked up to her. Mitch Farino, by the way, who every time y' all heard that song, at the top of. At the top of this. At the top of this episode, Mitch made that. And Mitch also did purse first.

[Monet x Change]

Anyway,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mitch told Kevin Avione she was on the song.

[Monet x Change]

That's wild. So and so, Khalees. Just to clear it up, Clarice's beef. She's mad at Beyonce. Cause Beyonce didn't like. She's like, we're friends. We've worked. We've done stuff before. But she also accused Beyonce of stealing from her before and saying that Beyonce's not really about women's empowerment. Again, I know nothing about that. I don't know Beyonce personally.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Moneta don't wanna piss off Beyonce.

[Monet x Change]

I know. I'm just. I'm this. Oh, my God, you're so extra.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In fact, wait, let's talk about after this break. Hold on.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, go ahead. You. You about to drag Beyonce. You were about to drag Beyonce. Go ahead. What were you about to do?

[Monet x Change]

Oh my God Bob, stop doing that because you are. You are so you are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did y' all notice that Beyonce doesn't follow money on Twitter?

[Monet x Change]

This is Bob Tamisha iman this is Bob's Tamisha Iman. At this point, 4.0 on this podcast, you keep on taking someone and making them Tamisha 9.0 and you know what you're doing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to know if y' all noticed that Beyonce was not following

[Monet x Change]

Monet on Twitter Anyway, so Kelis was saying, like. She was like. She's mad at Beyonce for not, like, telling her, like, hey, girl, we're using your song. But she's mad at Pharrell because she's saying Pharrell has, like, a business of. In the music industry of getting writing and publishing credits on people's records, and he has not written one single verse. And I get. This is all the legend. I don't know what Pharrell did in the studio, and Pharrell's like, a major producer, and she was like. She was like, y' all know his song? Cause I'm happy. She's like, yeah, I'll be happy too, if I was still. Everybody publishing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you say that? Yes.

[Monet x Change]

So I don't know how true it is, but I. Listen, that's not my business. All I have to say, you know,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Michael Jackson used to do that. Did you know that?

[Monet x Change]

What, Steel people's publishing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. One day. Did you ever hear about the story between Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney?

[Monet x Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Michael Jackson was. Was, like, hanging out with Paul McCartney or whatever, and then one day he was like. They were, like, laughing, and he was like, one day, I'm gonna own all of your music. And then, like, a year later, he bought all the Beatles songs, and Paul McCartney was like, wait, what?

[Monet x Change]

Did Michael Jackson have that much money? He can buy the publishing to all those songs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know how much money Michael Jackson had? Girl, Michael Jackson had a lot of money.

[Monet x Change]

I know that bomb. Also the Beatles. So I would assume that if the Beatles are probably. They're in their own publishing rights, they're probably making. They're probably making, bitch tens of millions of dollars. Like, I would assume it would cost lots of money. And I know Michael Jackson had a lot of money, but, like, to buy all the Beatles songs when they're making probably in just royalties alone. These motherfuckers probably making $20 million of royalties alone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, Michael Jackson bought. Michael Jackson bought the Elephant man skeleton.

[Monet x Change]

I don't know who that is. The guy with the big ball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Elephant Man. The Elephant Man.

[Monet x Change]

He had, like, big. Like, big limbs and shit. Elephantitis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, not. Not. Yeah, he had elephant. He was. He was like a circus. It was like a circus act.

[Monet x Change]

Let me look up the Elephant Man. I mean, bitch. I know, I know, I know. Elephantman Lagan and Stepan Chichimon. Do you know who elephant Mon is?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the Jamaican rapper with the blonde hair.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, the one who's very.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, homophobic.

[Monet x Change]

Jamaican rappers, Jamaican reggae. Reggae artists. Yeah, they're Very homophobic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, yeah, ATV. According to Biography.com, aTV owned the rights to 251 Beatles songs, including hey Jude Yesterday and Let It Be, as well as 4,000 other songs and a library of sound effects. Jackson instructed entertainment lawyer and manager to purchase those songs for $47.5 million.

[Monet x Change]

I. I knew it was good. I mean. I mean, go off just having that money should just. I mean, but again, you do that, that's. That's an investment. Beatles songs, they will be timeless. They will always make money. But you'd think. But I didn't realize you can buy someone's publishing without their consent. Like, can you say, hey, I'm gonna buy Monet's. I'm gonna buy Monet's publishing from her, from Soak It Up. I'm like, bitch, no, I'm not consenting to that. You know what I mean? I know. You can just buy it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, no, Well, I don't think it's necessarily just that. I think you can buy it because.

[Monet x Change]

Did they not write it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a chance that the Beatles didn't own it. It's probably that they didn't own it either.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, girl, that's wild. Michael Jackson.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I own the publishing. I own the publishing rights to Soak It Up.

[Monet x Change]

I'm not indigenous, bitch. You don't even own the publishing to your bitch. You don't even own the publishing to purse first, so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch writer so good. I paid, like, $14 for it anyway. Oh, I'm soaking up all of your money, honey. I take my spot, I'd be soaking it up, too. I'm happy. I'm alone in. Oh, I'm so. I'm soaking up every time. So by the way, all y' all go. Go stream unapologetically, because I will be unapologetically scooping up Monet's money. Honey, let me tell you something.

[Monet x Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I wish.

[Monet x Change]

I will. I will. I will walk into the bank purse first with your fucking. Your publishing, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm talking about.

[Monet x Change]

I'm like, yeah, purse first to the fucking atm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, it'll be. It'll be yet another dig, honey, before. Before you come for me. Cause, bitch, I'm Beyonce, okay?

[Monet x Change]

Oh, bitch. Okay, Let me tell you one thing, okay? You gonna be there the way I'm there for you when I take your motherfucking publishing for your goddamn song, honey,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

listen, it'll be a bloodbath, and you'll be seeing Ave and Maria when I gather you, honey.

[Monet x Change]

Well, I'm gonna gently Walk over to the Wells Fargo and get your coins. Okay, that's what I'm gonna do. Gently walk up to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can only name two of my songs. Come on, Warner.

[Monet x Change]

You can do one more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Come on, Warner.

[Monet x Change]

I'm doing my own songs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You only know two of my songs. Wow. Holy shit. You don't even. Wow. You don't support me. You don't support me. Wow. Oh, my God.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, my God. Anyways, now we just. Now we're just randomly talking about how we did get on this topic. Oh, yeah. Music writes in Beyonce. Anyway,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you don't got nothing to say. You just revving up.

[Monet x Change]

I know, because I thought, oh, I was gonna. Because I was gonna talk about Renaissance more, but you haven't really listened to it, so you can't really testify to hungry. It is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm sure that the listeners can all agree that, yeah, Beyonce slaps.

[Monet x Change]

Beyonce is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Beyonce's wonderful.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, she is. Do you say. Would you agree that Beyonce is one of the greatest female artists of this time?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I really am not remotely interested in categorizing Beyonce as the great. Putting her in some, like, female category boxes as if she's not a great.

[Monet x Change]

I meant. Okay, so you're right. You're right, you're right. Can I tell you, I did something the other day, and I want to talk about it in the podcast because I felt immense guilt after it, and I was so mad at myself for doing that shit. And it kind of in line with this. First of all, for a while now, I made it a point to never call women girls. Like to be like, oh, yeah, that girl at the front desk or that girl, bitch. They're women, right? And then. So. But that's beside the point. So I am in the parking structure at my gym. The fucking gate thing is always fucking broken. Always broken. It's always. If there's always a hole to do. And there's about, like, four staff members that work there, like, regularly. And, like, you know them. You do it every day. So there's this one young woman, there's an older woman, and this really old guy, and there's this young guy, right? So I go into the parking structure, like a couple one day. One day, the young lady is not there. So then by the fourth day, she's working the thing, and I'm like, hey. And I have a monthly pass to my gym thing. It's like a paper. It's like a monthly thing. And you. So you don't get a new ticket every time. You just scan your monthly ticket.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You go to the gym. We know you go to the gym. Oh, my God.

[Monet x Change]

When the scanner is broken, you start to pay the dollar. The older man who worked there was like, no, since you have the monthly thing, it's fine. Like, we trust you. You're here. We see you all the time. So I checked on the fourth day and he's not there. So I go to the young lady, I'm like, hey. She's like, no, you need to pay a dollar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, no.

[Monet x Change]

I spoke to your boss the other day, and he said that I don't need to scan. Like, I'm doing. She's like, my boss? I was like, yeah, the older guy. Who's the guy? She's like. She's like, I don't have a boss. There's no annoyance in my boss. I was like, you're right. I was like, I apologize. I was like, that was ridiculous for me to say. And I sincerely apologize. I was like. I was like. I was like, you know, here's $20. I know the park is a dollar. Here's $20. I'm sorry. I apologize. And I felt. I'm like, why would I assume? Just because he's the oldest guy working at that he's the fucking boss. But she ain't no fucking boss. He's her contemporary. He's her co worker, not her boss.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like, I talked to the man in charge here. The actual person who, like, is in charge of things. That's some little ass girl like you.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, I was. I felt really about it, and I apologized so profusely and I gave her the dollar to bark. And I was. But I was like, you know, I think that men. Because I think it's something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was she like, no, no, no.

[Monet x Change]

She was like.

[Commercial Narrator]

She's like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's like.

[Monet x Change]

She's like, no, it's fine. It's like, no, it's fine. And I was like, no, it's not fine. I was like, I apologize. And I just want to make it a point to be like, I'm like, coming clean about that. Cause I felt really bad about it. I could not stop thinking about it for the rest of the day. I was like, ew.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I'm glad you come clean. How does it feel?

[Monet x Change]

It feels good. I didn't do it for you, and I didn't need you to ask me how I feel. I feel great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I see you have no problems bashing me.

[Monet x Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But a stranger you met in a parking lot, she gets your utmost respect.

[Monet x Change]

Absolutely. Absolutely. How is I know you can't talk about it, but can you be vague? How your week is going? Is it good? It's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm having a fun time.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, sorry. Val can talk about his super secret project.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't even try to bring it up. You brought this up. You are cornering me. I am cornered right now. Absolutely cornered.

[Monet x Change]

You remember months ago. And also, people are. This is going around too. People. Look now, the clip of me crying on stealing rivalry when I had that striped shirt on. And I was saying, a lot of good things are happening. People are like, oh, yeah, that's when Monet first came back from all winners. First of all. No, that was like two months. That was like two months after all winners. And it wasn't because of that. It was like some other stuff that was happening. Like, not even career related. It was just like personal things. That's not what that was about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you talk about it or that super secret stuff too?

[Monet x Change]

It's. It's not something I can disclose currently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you have anything else you want to bring up that we can't actually talk about on the podcast or you have any other topics you want to bring up that we can't discuss at all?

[Monet x Change]

I'm around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got nothing else to do. What else you want to bring up?

[Monet x Change]

Do you want to bring anything to the table? Y' all just sitting there, just. Just. Just fucking luxuriant. And do you want to add anything to the conversation besides nothing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, every time I'm just. You are really. You're really steering the ship. I'm just allowing you to do your thing.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, well, do something now. Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Yeah, honestly, I'm happy to steer. I'm get us to where we need to be. I want to talk to you about the music that you are working on. Me and Monet were talking today about our albums. We're both. Well, Molly's working on the album, I'm working on ep. It's actually kind of becoming an album over time because I keep adding songs to my. To my Extra pussy. What does EP stand for? Extra pussy.

[Monet x Change]

Extended play.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Extra pussy. And I'm actually really, like, jazzed about it. We were like, we got contracts out in the world. I'm getting, like, cuts, and I'm very excited about actually performing. I actually did a sneak peek of my song Bitch Like Me, which there's a little sneak peek on the sibling rivalry. What? What's so funny? So what are you laughing about?

[Monet x Change]

A few months ago, when Baba put the sneak peek on the Patreon and Baba.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow. You are really. I was open about my feelings, and you were laughing at me. Oh, my God. Wow. This is what happens when you're opened about your feelings, Monae. When you were opened about your feelings being honest.

[Monet x Change]

So you were being so wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was being honest.

[Monet x Change]

My phone said the thing of the song, and he was like. He's like, you know what? Y' all niggas don't respect me. I posted a little sneak peek of

[Bob the Drag Queen]

my song, and only 27 people commented, Whoa. I opened up to you about this, and you are literally laughing at me.

[Monet x Change]

You put it on the podcast. You posted about it on the other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're literally laughing and pointing right now. This is insane.

[Monet x Change]

I'm laughing at you. I'm laughing at your crazy mental gymnastics that you do. It's just so funny to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What was the mental gymnastics? I posted it. It didn't get a lot of likes, and I was hurt.

[Monet x Change]

No, but you also found out why. Because they were like, promise harm. With the video, it wasn't about the quality of the content. It was about the mechanical qualities of the thing you posted. It was attributed to technical difficulties, not because he was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. Thank you for adding that part of the conversation. You tried to make it sound like I was in my flop era. You tried to make it like I was my flop era.

[Monet x Change]

Well, you are, but that's a different story. Honey, Ms. Honey, Ms. Honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I posted a clip of a sneak peek. Three of the patrons saw it. I posted a sneak peek of my music. I did a performance at the Grammy Museum, which is actually really cool. Not right now. And I'm so glad that Monet came around on this. I really am. Because me and Monet, when it comes to managing drag queens, we have the best fucking managers in the world. This is no shade to anybody out there as managers when it comes to managing drag queens. I genuinely think there is not a company out there in the world that understands managing drag queens better than pg. I really, really believe that.

[Monet x Change]

I'd agree with that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In my heart of hearts, I'd agree with that. And there's been a lot of companies that have come and gone and a lot of people who have, girl, I

[Monet x Change]

was with one of them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And a lot of people who have, like, who are doing their best. But, Peg, they're really some of the first ones in the game. You know what I mean? There was screaming queens back in the day. Shout out to Misunderstood.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, Misunderstood, who was in too. Wong Fu. If you guys want a little drag history is she misunderstood, Alex. Misunderstood, yes. Oh, she is misunderstood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's also. If you really want to see her in her element, she's also in Wigstock, the original movie.

[Monet x Change]

This is true. This is true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is true. You can see her actually being her anyway, but, girl, it was like. So they helped us with this. So they helped us with this. Like, they got us connected with the Grammy Museum and bitch, me, Manila and Trinity and Trinity were at the gr. The fucking. The actual real Grammy Museum, performing our music. I think Alaska did an event at the Grand Museum in the theater there.

[Monet x Change]

I was there for that. I interviewed her for that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, like, they. Y', all. PG is really me gathering the girls. They started the Battle of the Seasons tour, which some people say. Which some people say was inspiration for Work of the World.

[Monet x Change]

We came to work.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, like, anyway. So anyway, long story short, if you want to check out the vlog and get and wiggle your way through the technical difficulties on the podcast on our Patreon, and our Patreon is popping pussy popping on a handstand right now.

[Monet x Change]

It's about to get even crazier. I'm telling y'. All. This ASM exclusive stuff coming out, y' all are about to gag. It's a lot of really great stuff. Some unfiltered, raw, honest feelings and emotions and things. Here it is, girl, the Patreon is getting wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ideally, when this episode comes out, they're already heard the first All Star seven episode.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, see, y' all have heard the first All Star seven. We ain't lying. Bitch, if we lying, we dying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm also really excited for to be. And I'm also trying to do a premiere party. I'm trying to. I'm trying to do a premiere, like an actual EP release party in LA at, like a venue. I want to do it the full night. I want to do like. I want to do like a show, like a. Like a. I've never done a concert before.

[Monet x Change]

Ooh, that'll be fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever done a concert? Have you ever done like a full concert?

[Monet x Change]

No, but when I've all the prizes during the quarantine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did that show, that. The quarantine show?

[Monet x Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have done that, but it was a digital. Not like a one in live for any. For all the prides I've done. I've done like my own music, but I want to do like a band and stuff. But organizing a band, it's very expensive and it's time consuming and I want to do it. I Just haven't had that because y' all know, like, you really need to, like, take the time and rehearse and like, get it, like really great. And I fully be honest, I have not put the time and energy to do that with my music. But I also want to have more music. I want to do like a full, like 30 minute fantasy as opposed to doing like the four songs I got. You know what I mean? So that's why I'm really excited to put out this music because it's currently I have 12 tracks. I have 12 tracks. And I met with this music manager and he had a great idea. He was like, I feel like you should do a double side, like two EPs as opposed to one LP. Like two EPs, like next to each

[Bob the Drag Queen]

other, two extra pussies instead of one long pussy.

[Monet x Change]

Right. You know, So I put that idea

[Bob the Drag Queen]

out there in the world.

[Monet x Change]

I still speak a box love below.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I still keep. For some reason, Monat does not want to work with me on this album.

[Monet x Change]

That's not what I said. Could you all rewind the tapes? I literally, in one of the glass content we had on this podcast about it, I said, I'm down. So then let's do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shake it. Shake on it.

[Monet x Change]

We feel the shake hand. It's not real. It's not binding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Put your hand up. Well, you said you want to do it. Shake hand. No, but we should do ours together. This is a great way to promote each other. What? What? Nothing.

[Monet x Change]

You're just ridiculous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why is that ridiculous? What do I do? So ridiculous Nothing. Is this another thing you can't talk about anything else. You want to bring up what you can't talk about.

[Monet x Change]

What are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm like, how am I ridiculous? You're like, nothing.

[Monet x Change]

It is when you feeling in like your little. Y' all know when Bob gets in this mood, he's like, what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why don't they do that together?

[Monet x Change]

Then you get in this little mood. I don't know what this mood is called.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean, this? What? How do you do. What are some of the character wickets in this mood? Me being like, what are you talking about?

[Monet x Change]

Like, you smile. First of all, you know you're not a smiler. So anytime we. I'm talking about myself and everyone else. Oh, so now all of a sudden you are just Mr. Smiley 2017.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're not smile.

[Monet x Change]

I know you're not a smiler.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I smile.

[Monet x Change]

Your resting disposition does not smile. Your resting disposition is this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I have something to smile about. I'm not Just sitting here smiling out of nowhere. I'm smiling because of our interaction. It's not like, when I smile, it's weird. I'm not sinister. I'm not up to something when I'm smiling.

[Monet x Change]

Can y' all please comment below? If. When Bob smile, aren't you like, this is new. This is different. What's going on?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet x Change]

And I. Right now, they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet x Change]

And right now, they are lighting up the comment box. Be like, bob, I love you. But Monet is right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, how about this? Jacob loves me. Jacob, when I smile, do you feel like I'm up to something? Does it feel new and sneaky or weird when I smile?

[Monet x Change]

What is your boyfriend? You can't ask Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why can't I ask Jacob? I mean, the answer is 90% of the time, no. I mean, I am aware of the smile Monet is talking about, but I. I don't think that is a no. Monet, when you're smiling, whenever, Whenever. Whenever I'm smiling, I'm just, like, having a smile. Like, I'm smiling. If the same. Like, I'm the fucking Grinch or some shit. That is not your smile. Whenever you are smiling, that is your smile. 10% of the time when you are specifically up to something. Yeah, that's not what Monet. Anyway, Monet was like, whenever you smiling.

[Monet x Change]

Jacob has a different experience. Jacob lives with you. Jacob always has. All of us here, we don't live with you. We're not with you all the time. So we have a different experience. And you can't be mad at our experience with you. Anyways, and also in the last episode, the last rivalry, the Patreons fucking gathered you. Cause like I said, a. Literally everyone was like, bob, I love you, but Monet is known for being funny. Monet is known for.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There are also people who said, I was known for my body. So what of it?

[Monet x Change]

But no, but the majority were like, bob, you're not known for your body.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's also people saying Monet's not. No, there's also people saying. People on the podcast. There's also one of my favorite comments. I know they got a lot of likes, people saying, anyone who listens to podcasts, we think that Monet is known for humor. Anyone who watches Drag Race would be like, no, Monet is not known for humor. Meanwhile, on Drag Race, they were like, wow, Bob, your body is really great. It was a whole storyline about it.

[Monet x Change]

Monet is def. Known for being funny. Next one. Monet is known for comedy and great makeup and body. Bob is the Best.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, go back to that. No, no, no, no. Read it, read it.

[Monet x Change]

Okay. They were talking about the finale.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't skip it.

[Monet x Change]

Read it. Okay. Bob, best performance. Naomi, best song. Kim, best love. They're talking about your performance. They weren't talking about, like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, read the comment. You tried to skip Mon's. No, that was what I was going to.

[Monet x Change]

That's the one I was going to. That's the one I was looking at. Bob is known for best, best performance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Monet x Change]

I'm literally going in order. I'm not even skipping the loop of Kim punching at cr. I try to look for. I literally just going order with order.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You say read the order. Why you looking.

[Monet x Change]

Read them in order. Okay, okay. But they're not about the thing. I think that's. I'm sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, Monet is known for her shape. You are so, so, so funny, though. She can't take comedy queen from you.

[Monet x Change]

Monet is definitely known for being chistosa, I guess I think that's funny. As Bob. As Bob. As is Bob. Bob, your shape is super cute, but I wouldn't say you're known for that. Both of you are beautiful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not only defining what she does, it means I love you. That one ain't just defining a shape.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, oh, oh. She's known for. She's known for a shape, honey. And the shape is an oval. I don't even know if that's even. I don't know if that's a read or compliment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say by reading these Patreon comments, Bob is correct. There are people who say that he is known for his shape in the comments, but I will say more people say that Monet is known for a comedy queen in the comments of that. But also. And a lot of people have thoughts on that.

[Monet x Change]

So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Most of the comments in that one are about hot wings. Exactly. Monet stacked the odds against me on purpose.

[Monet x Change]

Bob, I miss you so much. You know, this is. This is. I miss you very much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why are you smiling? You must be up to something.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, I went to something and you about to find out and literally

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you about to fart or something.

[Monet x Change]

Like, first of all, let me say Bob and I, we're not those type of friends. Y' all. Don't us friends that, like, fart on each other, blah, blah, blah. We're not those type of friends. I don't. I've never seen or smelt Bob fart and vice versa. Would you agree with this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I don't. I also don't think I couldn't be friends with someone who does that. I also couldn't be friends with someone who thinks that hitting is funny. Like hit, like hitting each other. I could not. Are you done?

[Monet x Change]

You so fucking rude.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

People who hate each other. I'm like, I'm not that kind of friend. I don't do that shit.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, I'm not that kind of friend. I don't like that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's too much. It's aggressive. And I'm not. I'm just not like, I'm not getting a fight with for that. Who's.

[Monet x Change]

Did you get in a fight with someone for hitting you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Playfully hitting him and it got. It went dark. Forget who it was, though. I mean, I wouldn't say a fight, but someone probably hit me and I probably said, do not, don't. I don't think that's funny. I don't like to hit, but it's not part of my humor. Do not hit me. That sounds.

[Monet x Change]

I can't remember what it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember someone hit me and I was like, I don't hit. I don't do the playful hitting stuff. I don't think it's fun or funny. And I will let someone know immediately.

[Monet x Change]

But I'm trying to think, what if we became. Hear me out. What if we became like the prank war friends that our whole thing became about pranks?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not interested. You can do that with Cam.

[Monet x Change]

No, Bob. But okay, first of all, it's not a one way street. This is a friendship. It's not whatever, the opposite of a friendship.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm not consenting to. I'm not going to do the pranks with you. I'm not interested in that.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, what if I do one to you? You wouldn't want to get me back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will ask you to stop doing those and I will say don't do that anymore. It depends on what the prank is. If the prank is like wedding people and covering people's clothes in liquid and food and that kind of stuff, I don't think that's funny. If it's little stuff. If it's little stuff, like going to each other's house and taking a Roomba, I was just.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, you know, that's where I was headed. You know, I was about to get dick in that ass. I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. So also you used to do that to me. You come to my house and taking stuff.

[Monet x Change]

What did I take? What did I take of yours?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like a thief in a night.

[Monet x Change]

I guess.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well. Well, I guess we'll just never. We Discussed it several times. But my Tyler Wallach leotard that you mopped from my home,

[Monet x Change]

I did not take that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How'd you end up with it?

[Monet x Change]

Okay, how did you end up with. I've gone along with it. Here's the thing. I've gone along with it. I think that. Let me finish before you interrupt me. I think that I've gone along with the whole thing about using that ticket. I think that you. I was at your home after Drag Race. You had worn it so much, and I was at your house. I was like, bob, I want this. And I think you gave it to me. You did not give me permission to steal, to stone it. And you did not give me permission. Like, you didn't say it was mine, but I was like. I said. I'm like, I wanna wear it. Okay, Can I borrow it? And you did let me borrow it. I would admit you probably did not do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're in the house. And I said, monae, you cannot have this. You said, watch, I'm taking it. And then when I turn my back or looked away, you put it in your bag. Cause I kept saying, monet, do not leave my house. You cannot have it. I want that. And then you mopped it monetary. You don't even know what happened. You were like, I think. I think that maybe. Bitch, you don't even fucking know I remember. Cause I said, monet, do not. You do not think.

[Monet x Change]

Okay, so we just trust your memory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't even remember. I'm telling you, I know what fucking happened. You're like, I think, but you're just creating a narrative that you're like, well, I'm pretty sure that whatever it was makes me right and you wrong. That's all I know.

[Monet x Change]

And how I know you're not creating a narrative, but you're just not saying. I think you're just leaning into your narrative and saying you know what happened. How do I know that's not happening?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, mine is a solid memory, and yours is some foggy shit from your edible days, honey. And also, on top of that, Monet also does this thing where she does her little gaslightiana, like you did with the Doc Martens that you told me

[Monet x Change]

that you gave to me. I did not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What happened? I want you to tell me what you think happened, then I'm gonna tell you the truth. What do you think happened?

[Monet x Change]

I'm not digging back into that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you think happened?

[Monet x Change]

I left that in the past.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then I'll tell the truth. What happened was I thought you Left

[Monet x Change]

that in the past. Why you bringing it up again?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just said that. I didn't say that, bitch. You just said that. That's more of your gaslighting. That's more of your gaslighting. I'm gonna tell you, since if any of you are new listeners, I'll tell you exactly what happened. Monat had a pair of Doc Martens that were too small for her. And Monet said, you know, these actually aren't that comfortable for me. I would like to give them to you. And I said, oh, thank you. There's some pride. Doc Martens. And then Monet gave me shoes.

[Monet x Change]

You're already wrong.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whatever. It doesn't matter. Monet gave me a pair of Doc Marten. Doesn't matter, bitch. No. I thought you left in the past. Leave in the past, bitch. I'll live in the moment.

[Monet x Change]

I'll go. You're misremembering facts.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're not. You're not the time dropper's wife.

[Commercial Narrator]

I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, when they gave me the pair of Doc Martens and then I took them. And then Monet goes, we don't.

[Monet x Change]

Let's take a break. We don't take a break.

[Commercial Narrator]

Close your eyes. Exhale. Feel your body relax.

[Monet x Change]

And let go of whatever you're carrying today.

[Commercial Narrator]

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[Monet x Change]

And breathe.

[Commercial Narrator]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I was saying let's just move on from this argument. No, nigga, you fucking move on. I'm telling my goddamn story.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want nobody telling me to move on. Anyway, what ended up happening was black

[Monet x Change]

Romantic would make it aggressive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet goes. Monet goes, bob, I need them for DragCon. I said, okay, sure. I would love to give you the shoes. So I gave him the shoes. And then I was. And then Monet was like, bob, I need the shoes again. And I said, okay. And she goes, where are they? I said, I don't think I have them. I'm pretty sure you still have them after DragCon. And Monet goes, no, I gave them back to you. I said, I don't think so. Are you sure? Monet goes, I walked them up the ramp, and I Handed them to you. I put them in your hands. I remember doing this. And I said, I don't know. So I'm looking all around my house. I'm looking upstairs, downstairs, every room, in the closet, in my drag shoes, under my bed, under the other bed. I call Monack. You go on, Monique, I do not. I do not think these shoes are in this. Monet is like, I promise you. I promise you. I gave you these shoes. And I said, I don't know. I'll keep looking. I kept looking. I come to Monet's house that night, and the shoes are just sitting right by her front door. And I said, monet, you've had these shoes the whole time? And Monet goes, yeah, I told you that. And that. And the lie detector determined that was a lie.

[Monet x Change]

I don't remember that, y'. All. I don't think that's what happened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How convenient that you don't remember it. But anyway, whatever. Monet's. Anyway, truth is, is the falsehood.

[Monet x Change]

No, this is not my truth. It's just the truth. Anyway, I will say I have given Bob many things over the years, and I don't ever hold it over his head, but I seem to be the one that has the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What am I holding over your head about giving you.

[Monet x Change]

I said I had never held anything

[Bob the Drag Queen]

over your head, and I haven't accused you of that. What are you talking about?

[Monet x Change]

The gold dress that you gave me that. The gold dress that I can't. When they gave. Bob wants to give me something, and then. Oh, you know what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We can't. We can't.

[Monet x Change]

We can't. I'm not getting into this. I'm not getting into this. I was still thinking about my lemon heads. I was still thinking about all the great and lovely things. Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, have you heard any other songs from Renaissance? No, I'm not talking about that goddamn album. I keep telling y', all, I have not listened to Renaissance. Stop asking me about motherfucking Renaissance. I have not listened to Renaissance. I'mma spill you song from Renaissance and Monet. And you know why I mad at you about that goddamn gold dress. Don't act like you treat the dress like diamonds.

[Monet x Change]

I can't. I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You bought. I didn't bring it up.

[Monet x Change]

You bought the fucking dress up. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. We going to move on before I drag you on this, because you're wrong,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and you know you're wrong. Keep your arm.

[Monet x Change]

Someone that I. I think that I would like us to Do a crossover with Crystal and Kid Fury, AKA the Reid. A couple of reasons. One, their podcast is so funny. Two, Kid Fury is so beautiful. Do you know what Kid Fury looks like?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I do, yeah, of course.

[Monet x Change]

I think Kid Fury is so beautiful,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and that's why I want to do a podcast with him, because he's beautiful.

[Monet x Change]

He's also very. He's also very. Yeah, I want to just stare at him for an hour. He's also. He's also. Who is. He's very funny. I first fell in love with Kid Fury back, back, back before his podcast. He had. He had this viral video of him playing Candy Crush that I put in a mix. Remember when you and I were gonna do the Lollipop Candy mix? Do you remember this? This was years ago. Years ago. We were gonna do the Candy Crush lollipop. We were gonna do it to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll let you lick it.

[Monet x Change]

I'll let you RuPaul and Lady Bunny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Vaguely.

[Monet x Change]

Cause you were obsessed with that video of Kevin twerking the fop. FA FA FA ba ba ba ba ba ba. Get it?

[Commercial Narrator]

Kevin.

[Monet x Change]

Kevin. And he was talking to that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then.

[Monet x Change]

So that was literally. We're literally gonna make a mix of that. And then we pulled his audio to use that as a thing. We ended up not doing it for whatever. I don't remember why we ended up doing it, but I've been obsessed with him since then. And I think, you know, Kid Fury

[Bob the Drag Queen]

is a writer on rap shit, which is. He's on. On Showtime.

[Monet x Change]

Have you watched it? Did you watch Insecure?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I watched the first couple of episodes of first season, but I didn't watch all five. I didn't finish this. I didn't finish season, but it was a very good show. But I did not finish the season.

[Monet x Change]

No, it's really good. I love Insecure. And also the guys. Insecure were so hot. They had this one scene and I was like, you notice this would not weird about gay guys because this is one seed where Issa is hooking up with this guy and he ends up. She's like sucking his dick and he like nuts on her face and she like flips out on him. I was like, girl, honey, that's the best part.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's very few. There's very few shows I watch that don't have some sort of a queer storyline. There's a few. There's a few shows that don't have. That I watch that don't have queer storylines, but there's very good. I don't know, maybe. Maybe Insecure ended up with a queer storyline down the way. Did it?

[Monet x Change]

They didn't. There was. Okay, there was in the first season, Molly. There's a storyline how she's dating this guy and it's going really well and then he opens up to her that he's bi and then she completely like, nah. And she like deads it. And because she finds out that he's bi and she's like, I can't be fucking with no bi nigga. So then that's one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is a queer storyline, but it's not a very positive one.

[Monet x Change]

It's not positive at all. And then there is. But Issa is the guy who plays her brother in the show. He's gay and we see him periodically. But that's the only gay storyline in the movie. Is the bi in the show is the bi guy that the black girl is like, nah, I ain't fucking with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh yeah. I mean, I'm trying to think of what TV shows do I watch? I mean, well, I guess the boys doesn't have a queer storyline and I watch that show. Yes.

[Monet x Change]

Well, it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh no, nevermind. It does. Maeve is fully. Maeve is fully.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, she's a. She's a lesbian.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was wrong. I mean I was. I like Boondocks. But Boondocks also has kind of this. Some. Two or three very popular queer episodes.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That are from a really interesting perspective. Other shows. But anyway, so, you know, I went to. I went to the rap movie premiere. HBO premiere.

[Monet x Change]

How was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was really great. I watched the first two episodes. They showed two episodes at the premiere and it was so, so good. And I'm very excited about we can continuing to watch it. It is just. It's really, really a great show. So it's about a girl, two girls forming a rap group in Miami. And one of them is like a

[Monet x Change]

soul sister model at the City Girls.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, not quite. One of them is like a soul sister, like kind of rapper who, you know, is this real like earth and another girl, like, I want to talk about popping my pussy and checking my ass. And then it's these two, like basically coming together and forming, you know, this new kind of rap group. So I don't know, I don't know how much it went past two episodes, but it was very entertaining and there were some really funny moments in it. I loved it.

[Monet x Change]

Congratulations to Kid for writing on rap. Shit. And yeah, he would have worked. All right. I stand, I stand, I stand, I stand. Also, Crystal is very funny too. Do you think one day like what if you got invited to be on the reference club? Would you say yes?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, maybe it depends on what they want to talk about. You know, I kind of have some problems with Charlamagne. I just really feel like he's done some really nasty stuff on the show. Some really sexist, homophobic, transphobic, 100% misogynistic, nasty. Just horrible gutter shit.

[Monet x Change]

And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And he just. And his whole thing's kind of like, yeah, yeah, but whatever. Like, I don't care. Like, I mean, but now he's kind of, like, apologizing for some of that stuff, but it's too late. He's. He's reaped all the rewards of it. He's reaped all the reward. He's like, well, I realized that that was mean. But anyway, that's like, yeah, but now, bitch, you have just soaked up all the rewards of years of being toxic, and now you're just, like, living off of that. And now that you've gotten what you want out of it, you want to live clean now that you're mainstream.

[Monet x Change]

Yeah, it's really gross. And then you see, like, artists and people going there and. But. But he's a. He's a shock jock. Like, that is what Charlie. Like, Charlamagne is a shock jock. Like, he. He did it for years because kind

[Bob the Drag Queen]

of like, how that's like being like. But he's a serial killer. You know what I mean?

[Monet x Change]

I'm like, I know, I know. But shock jocks, that's not like, a new thing. Like, Howard Stern was a. It is a shock jock. Wendy Williams or like, that. Like, so I think a lot of people saw the model for that, and they're like, this is how. This is. This is a way to make my name really big in radio. And Charlamagne followed that. Followed that beaten path. And he. Like you said, he got very rewarded. But she. Just last year, he had his own talk show. I don't know. I don't know if the show is still going on. I haven't seen anything for it. But it brought him to having his own fucking television show on Comedy Central. I think it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just don't think. I'm just not. I don't think I'm into shock jockeys. I don't think I. I mean. I mean, I will say there were moments where Wendy Williams. I was really into something. Like, it was just so salacious. But I was also a lot younger when I was, like, kind of into her shock jockey kind of thing. But getting older now and it's one thing to, like, discuss celebrity gossip, and it's another thing to ambush people on your show, girl. Like, get them there and just completely just belittle them, berate them, make them cry.

[Monet x Change]

Lil mama. That clip of that viral meme, everyone needs to send a lil mama if you don't know that was from her being on the Breakfast Club, of her crying on the Breakfast Club.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you see a clip of the baby getting him together on the Breakfast Club?

[Monet x Change]

No. I mean, that's not talking about the. We're not talking about the fucking baby and his fucking shitty, shitty, problematic ass.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is not our tutu to the baby. But the baby walked in on.

[Monet x Change]

What? What are you talking about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The baby just walked in and was like, fuck all this, like, with a whole crew. And was like, put some motherfucking respect on my name. And was, like, yelling at him and was like, don't ever disrespect me. But he wasn't even on. He wasn't even, like, talking into the microphone. It was just like him coming in to, like, intimidate Charlamagne. But Charlamagne held it on. Charlamagne was like. Charlamagne was like, oh, did you do that to so and so and so and so when they tried to punk you? Or you just do that to the radio guy? And it was. It was. You should watch it real quick, Jacob.

[Monet x Change]

If you can pull it up on screen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You should watch it. It's very short. You should watch it and let you decide.

[Monet x Change]

What's very short.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I mean, we have time to figure it out. It's like, maybe like a minute or two. It is. It is very interesting. I think you should watch it and decide. I think Jacob's looking it up. It's DaBaby versus the Breakfast Club.

[Monet x Change]

Bob, first of all, it was not the baby. I'm thinking about the baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. I meant Birdman.

[Monet x Change]

I can't. What would have happened if. If Birdman has crew to just Duff, Charlemagne most of all. Charlamagne was like, if this hits me, I'm suing him and he's going to jail. In his mind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What does Duff mean? What does that mean?

[Monet x Change]

Like a boom? Like a snuff. A Duff. Like, just hitching inside of your head or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that like a New York City saying?

[Monet x Change]

I don't know. I mean, that's. We grew up saying that. I don't know if it's only New York City, but we died.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I imagine if you would have hit him, then maybe. I imagine Charlemagne. He has to have security because he is. He's too slick at the mouth to not have security. Addict.

[Monet x Change]

Also, sleep smart. Charlamagne knows that if this motherfucker hits me in the studio A, it is being recorded audibly. There is video. This nigga is going to jail and I'm suing him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Charlamagne was probably begging. Cause Birdman got a lot of money. Charlamagne was like, please hit me. Ooh, ooh.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Rough me up. Rough me up.

[Monet x Change]

I was reading someone, what's the name?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Beat somebody up. What's the name be somebody up?

[Monet x Change]

Kanye West.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jason Derulo. Somebody called him Usher. And he went crazy and just started beating them up in Vegas.

[Monet x Change]

And they probably got a nice check.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was on a plane one time standing.

[Monet x Change]

And Martha Stewart punched you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Martha Stewart did assert her dominance over me once at a plane, but I was standing, like, getting ready to load. They were like first class. And I started going up. And this massive guy just shoved me out of the way. I mean, just like moved my body. He was huge. There was nothing I could have done to stop this man. He was so large. And I was like, oh, my God. And then he just ushered Jason Derulo through.

[Monet x Change]

Usher, who you talking to?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He just ushered Jason Derulo through the first class after shoving me out of the way, like, as if I was not in first class too. And then it was very odd. It was just like he just kind of walked through, like he just owned the place. And I mean, I guess no one said anything. Cause he had fucking the juggernaut with him.

[Monet x Change]

Do you know suing people is like a thing. So you probably know this. I just found out this news today. Did you know that Em from M&P sued the WWE because of Vince McMahon?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, of course.

[Monet x Change]

And that's how he goth. Oh, well, not because of that. Not because of him, but no, sorry, you're right. He sued the WWE because of sexual harassment. Like, whatever. Like the whole thing with sexual harassment. And he sued the WWE and got like coin tadas. That's how she got her coins. I can only imagine how much money. Cause they settled out of court. I could only imagine how much money this nigga got for suing the WWE for sexual harassment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch's number. Text him and ask him.

[Monet x Change]

I'm like, suing people is a thing. There's another friend who knows it for who another friend.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not Monet finding out today. Not Monet years old when I found out about suing.

[Monet x Change]

Suing another friend. Like, he. How he makes money is by suing The United States. He sued the United States a couple of times, and he's made over $10 million suing the United States of America. Isn't that wild?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For what?

[Monet x Change]

For different things. Something about like when they were in California. Bitch, I'm scared he gonna trace it back when I'm talking to him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then, bitch, I would get sue.

[Monet x Change]

Sue you, definitely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm not saying it.

[Monet x Change]

I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it. Bitch, you're not suing me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, people will sue you. You know, you can sue anyone for anything.

[Monet x Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't mean kind of. You could literally sue anyone for. There is a woman who has a lawsuit against every gay person in America.

[Monet x Change]

You know, you don't always.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's true. I'm not making that up. You don't always win your lawsuits, but you can sue anyone. And you know, the beef. You know, the entire beef industry sued. The beef industry sued Oprah Winfrey.

[Monet x Change]

Oprah, I know when she said the beef, which is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, all Oprah said was, I will never eat a burger again. That is all she said. Oprah was her dream bitch. We better watch out. The miciness, too. During the mad cow disease scare, Oprah Winfrey said, I will never eat a burger again. And the beef industry sued her and almost won. Came this fucking close to it. I know.

[Monet x Change]

But to be fair, and it's not just from what they're saying, but at that point, I don't think people realize how powerful the Oprah Winfrey show was when it was in its prime. Like, Oprah would say, I like cheese. Cheese would sell out in every supermarket. Oprah would put a book on her show. The book would immediately be on the New York Best. New York Times best selling list. Like the power. That's why they call it the queen of all media. The power, the stronghold Oprah Winfrey had over everything. And not like literally everything. Oprah could say that she like light bulbs. I mean, light bulbs would be. It was crazy. So I'm sure she said that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But there's also some.

[Monet x Change]

It is crazy, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's also some misogyny and racism involved in that. Because Oprah was not the only person reporting on mad cow disease. Every.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Walter Cronkite, Barbara Walters, Hugh Downs, they were Al Roker. They were all reporting on, fucking on. Everyone was reporting on mad cow disease at the time.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, yeah, I remember when it was a big scare.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They just focus on Oprah and made it seem like Oprah is the reason why people are scared of mad cow disease instead of, you know.

[Monet x Change]

But also at that time, all the people you listed, I don't think, combined, they had the same reach as Oprah. Oprah was. Oprah was an anomaly. Oprah was just. She was just really fucking good at what she does. And America, the world at large, trusted Oprah. Oprah was. It was like, wow, remember when Oprah walks on hot coals? People thought, people. They had articles saying that Oprah was Jesus. People really believed that Oprah was Jesus come back to earth. Maybe she is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe.

[Monet x Change]

Would you worship and pray at the church of Oprah?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I didn't watch that for sure.

[Monet x Change]

Oh, my grandmother love her. My grandmother was. It's still. I. My grandmother used to be off on Tuesday Wednesdays, and we would ever. Every Tuesday Wednesday, I'll come home. When I would come home from school, the Oprah Winfrey show would be on, and I would be sitting in the living room. In the living room and the kitchen tv, watching it with her. My grandmother loves. Loves Oprah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's even in the kitchen, too. Oh, my God. The lap of luxury.

[Monet x Change]

All right, we're at time. We're at time. I have to go.

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