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My name is bob the drag queen.
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And I'm monet x james, and this is sibling rivalry. On today's episode, I confirmed the doors I've opened for Bob the Drag Queen.
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Yeah, the bald doors. We also tried to win a GLAAD Media Award.
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And we find out what made Bob say this.
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This is not the myth that you all are being fed. It is not the lie that you all are being told. And we found out what made Macaroni x Cheese say this.
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You know what my ick is? When you come and you in labor and your baby daddy in the hallway talking about where she at? That's my ick.
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Well, I. I have a cold.
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And that's that dick you was sucking on that boat.
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I mean, I don't know if you can get a dick. Can get a cold from sucking a dick, but I've definitely sucked more dick off the boat than I did on that boat, so. But I do think being in close proximity to all those people, not wearing masks and just dancing around, I probably. I took a COVID test today, and I don't have Covid.
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Do you have your flu vaccine?
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I don't know if. I don't think I got a flu shot this year. I don't have. It's not a flu, though. It's definitely not a flu, girl. When you have a flu, you know you have a flu. You're not like, I might do a podcast you beat. You'd be fucked up. You ever had the flu before?
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I don't know.
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You would know. You know you have a flu. The flu is like. You're like, I am. I. Well, I. Maybe not for everyone, but for me,
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I just call it the cold. Maybe I've had the flu, but I just feel like. You have a cold.
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No, the two times I've had the flu, you are like, I am.
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Did you get tested? Did you go to the doctor and they saw you had the flu?
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No, I just knew I had the flu.
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Oh, but you don't know. Probably just a cold.
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No, colds don't do that. When I. Colds and flu are not the same thing. They're like. The levels of severity are extremely different.
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I get it. But when I have, like, a really bad cold, I never. And it never goes in my mind to be like, ooh, but I had the flu. I'm just. I'm just cold, and I'm, like, in my bed shaking. A. Coughing, can't breathe, can't anything. I just. I just had the cold.
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Yeah, you probably have had a Flu several times in your. You probably had a flu several times in your life, then you probably flu more times than you know.
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What's the line? Several times because she lied several times. What am I thinking of? Is that Gemma. Tiffany Pollard.
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You're thinking of Tiffany Pollard. Somebody lied to her several times.
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You had the flu several times.
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But there's a very real chance that you have had the flu several times in your life and not known it, but it is pretty intense.
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The last time I was sick, having
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the flu feels almost exactly like having Covid. Almost exactly. Minus the residual breathing issues.
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Well, the last time I was sick
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or like a person who doesn't have
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comorbidities or anything, the last time I had, like, Covid, like, sickness was when I had Covid in April 2020. I haven't been like, sick since then. Like a little, like, and a little. But not like sick like in the bed, like, body aches. It wasn't cocaine.
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Why did you do that?
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It was crushed up crack.
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Oh, nice, nice, nice, nice. But yeah, I mean, when I first got Covid, I was like, oh, my God, I think I have the flu. And it can't be Covid because it feels like the flu. And then I was like, oh, no. So anyway, I have a cold and cold ass bitch. I'm. I'm almost positive I do not have the flu because I, I'm still pretty active and I'm like, I've done like two podcasts that I did, by the way, for those of you who would like to get a chance to listen to me and Peppermint, the podcast, Town hall of Black Queer Podcast. I really encourage you to go over and give it a shot and, and even leave it a review, if you will.
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A black queer podcast.
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Yeah, Town Hall. A black queer podcast. It's called Town Hall.
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Oh, very close to Todrick Hall. I mean, you just won't leave Todrick alone. Damn, nigga. Damn.
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What do you mean leave Todrick alone?
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Why your podcast gotta be so close to his name? Town Hall. Todrick Hall.
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Are you afraid to be associated with Todrick Hall?
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I took him, Jacob.
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Rolling, rolling. Are you afraid to be associated with Todrick Hallwana?
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No, I love Todrick Hall. I talk about Toddy Wadi all the time. Jacob. I always wished that I had like a, like a, like a, like a, like a fun laugh. Like, not a witch's cackle. But I just feel like sometimes you meet some people that have, like, really like, ridiculous laughs. I'm like, actually, sometimes when it's too ridiculous, you're like, if this person laughs, you're like, ugh. But I wish I had a better laugh.
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Whose laugh specifically do you want?
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Michelle Visage has a good laugh.
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I can't pinpoint her laugh. What does it sound like
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she does? It's almost like she sounds like she's wheezing, but also, like, clearing her throat.
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Does she do a different laugh, like, when she's on Drag Race and Ruse is saying funny? Is that a different laugh than she does in real life? Like, do you think she's putting it, like, her TV laugh?
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No, I think that's a real laugh. I think that's what I'm talking about. She's like,
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I've not hung out with Michelle that many times outside of Drag Race.
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Really? You didn't do work with her?
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We're both hosts, so usually we're both. Whenever one of us is on the way home.
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I was a host, too, but we had some overlap.
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No, you filled in.
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No, I host. I fully hosted.
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I fully hosted a whole. You hosted a whole Leg Worth World.
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I did.
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Who can confirm this?
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The girls who were on the fucking show, Bitch. Kim Cheek. Tiara Detox icon. Violet Chachki. Interesting. I swear, y'.
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All. Y'. All.
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There's a black bitch from Columbus. She be swearing.
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Did you host it before I hosted it?
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I didn't see. I didn't know. I was wondering. I hosted when I. I think I filled in before you were a host, bitch. So know that. You think that's true black like that. You think that's true black like that?
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I can promise you that's absolutely false.
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In my skin cozy.
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You know that's not true, though, right?
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I filled in for Shangela.
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You did not.
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Hold on. I filled in for Shangela on in 2017. In spring 2017, I filled in for Shangela. When did you host the work the world?
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2016.
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16.
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You never.
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I led you to the league.
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Let me make one thing clear, Monet. You've never done anything before me ever.
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Once again, you know what I did? I canceled a tour from Madonna before you, bitch. So the doors are motherfucking open. You say thank you, please.
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First of all, you got.
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You say thank you.
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Let's be clear. Let's be clear. You got fired from a tour.
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No, I canceled that tour. But I walked on that motherfucker because. Walked on that motherfucking tour bus.
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Do we need to read Murray and Peters a message? Do we need to read. Do we need to read the message?
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Walked off that tour? Madonna. Thank you, Macaroni. X Cheese for the doors I have open. Let me show you what I did. The doors. I did this for you. This what I did.
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I hope she gets locked out. I. I really. I really hope she gets locked out. Go out. I hope the door locks behind her. I really hope the door locks behind her. That'd be so delicious. Breaking news from the Haters roast. Yesterday, Monet Exchange arrived in Denver to appear on our show. Sometime during the afternoon, we were told she received a phone call from Madonna with an offer to be in an upcoming music video. Monetax mp if it would be. Oh, she Monet, begged Monet on her hands and knees if it would be okay. Would it be okay to leave the tour after the offer? We said no. We said no.
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So I canceled my rest of my appearances on that tour.
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No, no, I'm not done. We said no because it was too short notice to replace her on the Haters just out before the show. She was the start. Just hours, hours before the show started, without telling anyone, including the other queens on the Denver show, Monet left the venue in Futa La to accept Madonna's offer. Therefore, we decided to. Therefore, we have decided that Monet will no longer be on any upcoming Haters Rose tours. She later returned and begged us if she could be on our tour, and we said no.
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Completely lying.
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She laid her back on her heels and offered to slob. You are lying like horns on the top. You know that?
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Say that for a fact. That motherfuck also Bob the Drag Queen. You say thank you. You are. You better say thank you for the doors I have opened so that you could one day get a gig with Madonna. You say thank you, Monet X Change, you say, I am.
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I am grateful.
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I am thankful for the doors that you open for me, Bob the Drag Queen. You're fucking welcome.
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If you beg, just say you beg. Let's move on.
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You're welcome.
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Speaking of things that I've done before, Monet Exchange.
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You're welcome. Wait, sorry.
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When did you win Drag Race? I won drag race in 2006. M1A. When were you miss gay Caribbean?
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I was in 2000 motherfucking 15, honey.
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Okay. I was miss sobriety in, like, 2013. Yeah, against.
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Against Boo Boo the Fool bitch. I was competing against actual, literal legends.
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You're competing against all half the girls weren't even Caribbean. Jasmine Rice. Who else?
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Jasmine Rice was not that year.
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Didn't she win Miss Caribbean? No.
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We have legendary queens in the Miss Caribbean pageant from all over the United States, from different Caribbean nations and countries represented, honey.
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Speaking of other things that I've done before you, the doors I've opened. Sibling Rival is nominated for a GLAAD Award, of which I've won two.
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No, let's be clear. Shangela won those awards. Honey, we all know Shangela won those awards when we're here. The Dancing with the Stars queen, honey.
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Okay.
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Shangela. Shangela.
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My two GLAAD Awards have my name on them. Mm.
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Cause Shangela graciously. And we all know the tea in the industry. Shangela, allow them to put your name on there. Unless I don't wanna spill that tea. Y' all not ready for that tea. We're not. You know what? I'm sorry. I didn't mean to bring that up.
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And now Sibling Rivalry is nominated for an award. The podcast I came up with,
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bitch. The podcast that I agreed to, I graciously agreed to do with you.
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Turn on the coattails that you've been riding on for the past.
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I graciously agreed to do with you.
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The coattails are coattailing, your honor, because
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we all know you waited till I was on RuPaul's dragons to start this podcast, honey, when you had the clout of Monet X Change, honey. The branding, the doll, the diva, the queen.
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Well, I'm not gonna lie. It constantly tickles me. Because you're giving London Luxx Noir. Oh, why?
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Because I don't have my hat on? I look like Lil Bill?
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Cause you're delusional. We are up against some real giants in the field of podcasts. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Before we get into the topic, can I tell you something? Damn. Can I talk about my life, nigga? Damn.
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What?
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First of all, fix your motherfucking attitude.
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I know you sick.
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I need you to come in here with fucking bells and whistles on. Excited. I've not seen you for a week and a half, okay? So fix your motherfucking.
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You know what? If you want bells and whistles, go to your failing podcast, Ebony and Ivory. Go to your failing podcast, Ebony and Ivory, and she'll be happy. Honey.
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No.
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What?
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By feeling, you mean thriving? We have more, more, more, more ratings than a Todrick Hall, A black Todrick Qu. Hall podcast.
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It's called Town Hall, A black queer podcast. We've only got one. We only got one episode out so far. One.
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Yeah. I was going to tell you.
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Oh, when was the last time you were on?
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This past Friday. Interesting.
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All right, go ahead, tell me more.
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I am in one of your places that you tell everyone that you Used to live that you used to frequent. I'm in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and it is so cold now. I'm gonna be very honest. I know this might sound ignorant, whatever, but outside of like the coast, like the west coast and the east coast, I don't really. I know the general geography of America in the middle, but a lot of it I don't like. In my mind, Minnesota was down by where like fucking was in the name. Like, I thought Minnesota was under Chicago.
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No, if this is America, if this is New York, Minnesota's like up in this area.
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Minnesota. Minnesota is higher than New York.
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Yeah, but. But this, I mean, it's all one one. America's like. Like this. That's New York. Minnesota's like right up. It's right up against Canada. It's right up against Canada.
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Yeah. And it is cold. I don't realize how cold it is.
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I mean, New York is also against Canada too. So.
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Yeah, right by Toronto. But it is so cold here.
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No, what's. The Niagara Falls is where New York connects. It probably connects in a lot of places, but I know one of the places where New York connects to Canada is Niagara Falls. Niagara Falls.
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Niagara. Niagar Falls. But the temperature this weekend was. The high was negative 2 degrees.
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Yeah, girl, I. You know, when I live there, it is. It gets. The coldest I ever saw was actually in Bismarck, North Dakota. Do you have to do the wind chill factor?
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Like, like, I mean, I know what windshield factor is from living in a
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cold place is a big part of what when it's how it's so the windshield is like how it feels. And the coldest I ever saw was a windshield factor. Like negative 32 degrees in like Bismarck, North Dakota.
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That is crazy.
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It was literally colder in the walk in freezer at the Applebee's than it. I mean, it was warmer in the walk in freezer at the Applebee's than it was outside.
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Well, the lady. So I was like. So we were leaving, like, rehearsal. I was like, oh, my God, it is so cold out here. And I was like, this was Friday. And I was like. And the high this week is like negative two. And she's like, you know what the good thing is though? Below zero, it all feels the same.
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And I was like, she is kind of right. Once you get below zero, you kind of like it. Unless you get below like 10. Below 10 gets really, really intense. We can throw, I think below 10, when you can throw the. The hot water in the air and it'll vaporize instantly. It might be More than so cool. But it is, it is. Yeah, the Twin Cities are really wild. Do you know the other Twin Cities?
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The other, of course, St. Paul, my homie.
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St. Paul I used to live in. That's why I used to live, actually South St. Paul.
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Oh, my God. Tell me your address. I'll go out there. If you tell me your address, I will make a Patreon exclusive where I'm going to your old address and be
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like, y' all know Bob? Well, there a bunch of actors.
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Well, Christopher Caldwell.
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They didn't call me that. No one called. No one, really. Only my mom calls me that. That was when I lived in. What, bitch?
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Before you were Caldwell, what did you tell people your name was? Cause you don't like your first name?
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I told people my name was. I was in like 11th grade.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, I've been going by caldwell since like 2002, 2003.
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Oh, interesting. Okay. I thought this was like, in the past, like, decade or so, you know? Let's take a break and I'll tell you about my middle name. Cause you never care about my motherfucking name. Let me take a fucking break, Jacob.
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Welcome back, Monet. Jigaboo Exchange.
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You better. Caldwell. Bojangles Del Mar. Do you know my middle name?
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You asked me this. I think this comes up once every couple of months of the podcast.
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You never.
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And I get it right. Every single time. Your name is Kevin Akeem Burton. Akeem.
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Lucky guess.
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We know your name, bitch. You've asked me this 19 times. Dumb bitch.
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The aggression. Jesus Christ.
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You know the name of the hospital I was Born in. I tell you all the time.
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Of course, when I can hear you
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clickety clacking over there, we can see the screen in your eyes googling the name of the hospital in Columbus, Georgia. And by the way, we have more than one hospital in Columbus, Georgia, so it's not going to be the. You can't go. What's the hospital in Columbus, Georgia?
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I'm not checking out the hospital. I know where it is.
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What's the name of it? What's the name of the hospital I was born in?
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I think it's a trick question. Your mom, like, had, like, an emergency birth and you were born like a restaurant or something.
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Yeah, like I'm the Antichrist born a Jekyll born in a shallow grave in the outskirts of town. No, I was born at the medical center.
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How am I supposed to know that? Bitch, you know what the fuck? I was born.
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Yeah, over at the west side, on the west side highway. Over on the. On the west side, on the east side. What's that cheap hospital called? Bellevue. You look, you. You give. Bellevue, baby
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bitch. You're a fucking Applebee's baby bitch.
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You get born at Bellevue.
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Honestly, my mother was a crackhead, so who knows where the fuck I was born? She probably don't fucking know. I mean, I honestly, I think I was born at Kings County Hospital.
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You ever been to Bellevue? No. Honestly, Wolf, when you go to Bellevue, they give you a card. If you're poor and they give you this card, or if you can't. Let me rephrase. If you can't afford to pay for your medical services, they give you this card. And the card is like this red card that's like, says, I'm too poor to afford medical service. And they'll give. But they'll give it to you for free, though. They don't charge you a car. Car, duh. Card. C A R, D. Yeah, they give you a car. Everyone gets a Prius, and then you have to Uber it off. You have to drive Uber to pay for your medical bills.
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You would be born in Atlanta. Atlanta is where they caught them damn TikTok nurses doing the ick. So I'm like, my ick. You know what my ick is? When you come and you in labor and your baby daddy in the hallway talking about where she at? That's my ick. You would be from there.
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I wasn't born in Atlanta. I was born in Columbus, Georgia, at the medical center.
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Same thing. You know what we mean when we say that? Please.
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The money that's Literally, me being like, you would be born in Rochester. You would be born in Rochester. Same thing. Rochester, Brooklyn, whatever. Albany, same state.
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Okay, Bob, we're nominated for a GLAD Media Award for Civil Rivalry Podcast. How does that feel to you, J.
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Can you get my GLAD award? I feel like if we get it, if we put the. Now this is gonna be the one where we try to win a GLAAD Award. I feel like if we put a GLAAD Award in the frame and we talk about the GLAAD Awards a lot, then we can get ourselves a GLAAD Media Award. Let's see who we're nominated up against.
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Penny, can you get. Can you get my. Can you bring my GLAAD Award? Cause I carry. I walk with mine too.
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We're nominated up against the bald and the beautiful. We are nominated up against in the Deep stories that shape Us Las Culturistas, Life Out Loud, the LZ Granderson. I. I with LZ Grandison. I've actually been on this podcast, so if that one wins, then I'm gonna say I won another one. Do I, baby? I was on Los Culturistas, which I. So I helped. I helped a lot of these podcasts get where they're going. Let's say that Pride cast the interesting Yas Jesus in Translash podcast with Amara Jones.
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Do you remember Amara La Negra, the Beautiful?
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Yeah, from. From Love and Hip Hop. Orlando. Or Miami.
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Or Miami. She kind of just like, disappeared on social. I used to follow her on social media, and I just. She just. I don't see her posts anymore. Did she block me?
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What did you do? You probably kept stealing her looks. She probably got sick of you stealing her looks every time. How did I. Because I noticed that you started wearing the. The little afro, the curly afro. After she started wearing the curly afro. Do you want to acknowledge that?
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Oh, no, she's still here because she
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did DM me and ask that you would. If you would please stop.
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Do you wish that you spoke another language?
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Oh, yeah, I do often.
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Me too. When you have kids, would you put them. Would I know? Andy and I are taking us a Spanish class. Like. Like an actual, like, class. We had to, like, homework and stuff like that.
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What.
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What. What language you wish you spoke?
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I would go with Spanish. Living in New York City for all those years, Spanish would have been nice. And then living in la, same. There's a lot of Spanish speakers and a lot of Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans in New York, and a lot of Mexicans in la.
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In la.
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And People who just speak Spanish in general. And it'd be nice to be able to speak. I think Spanish might be the second most spoken language in America.
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No. Oh, in America. In the world would say no. Okay, here's a question. Okay. Do you want to do. There is this thing, Bob, you can do like a. It's like a three week intensive immersion thing, and you, like, leave speaking, like, good Spanish. Do you want to do that? It costs, like. I don't know how much it costs, but basically we would be immersed. We would go, like, live in, like, Mexico City for, like, three weeks.
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The program is just. The program has just moved to Mexico.
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No, you haven't.
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We have a program. We drop you off in Peru and then you come out, speak Spanish.
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No, they put you like a. It's like a whole thing. It's not just dropping you off there. It's like a whole thing.
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I don't know that I have time to do that. But I will say, when I went to go visit Mexico last Christmas, I did come out speaking better Spanish because some of Ezra's family members would only speak to me in Spanish because I think they don't. I don't know if they only spoke Spanish or. Well, I would speak to them in English and they would understand it, and they would speak to me in Spanish and I'd be like. So then I started speaking in Spanish and I. And I got. I mean, I took four years of
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Spanish and how long you were there for, what, a week?
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About a week?
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Yeah, just about a week ago. Okay, back to the GLAAD Media Award. So this is the one where we try to win a GLAAD Media Award. How do you think we go about winning this award? I mean, we're nominated. There's not much we can do from this point.
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I think if we.
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It's like a People's Choice Award.
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If we do a little bit of everything that everyone else is doing in their shows, then we will be all of the shows combined in one. And therefore they will have no choice but to give us a GLAAD Media Award. I'm also nominated for. We're here as well, so I'm nominated twice this year, honey.
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I'm winning.
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Also monetary, you know, also the iconic fight from last year, the Queerities. We got nominated again.
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Wait, there was. We had a fight last year.
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The Queerities. You don't remember the Queerties, Monet?
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I remember us going, but we had
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a fight with somebody. No, we didn't have a fight.
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Everyone's like, oh, oh, oh, yo, yo, yo, yo. Your sister.
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My sister. Oh, no, no, no, no. When you and I. When. Honestly, guys, you have to get two GLAAD Awards. This is. If you're not looking at the video. This is honestly kind of iconic. This is honestly kind of iconic.
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Wait, what fight?
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When you were like, bob, we should go to the. To the. To the Queerties. And I was like, I don't want to go to the Queerties.
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Oh, God.
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So, Monet, do you want to go to the Queerities with me this year? Do you want to go to the Queers with me?
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Am I in town? What day is it?
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I don't know. I don't think you're in town, Caldwell. Monet, answer the question. Do you want to go to the Queers with me? Yes or no?
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If I'm in town, sure. But I'm like, literally in a home,
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like together, holding hands the whole night.
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No, absolutely not. After last year, I'm not doing to myself.
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Let's not go anywhere. Let's have the gladder ones.
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Yeah. Let's not do anything together.
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Then Vegas. Scrap the podcast.
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Honestly, Jacob. Cut. Cut it. You need to cut it.
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Let's close the Patreon.
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Close it up.
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And let's give back everything I've ever done for you.
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Let's give back everything.
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Starting with your career. Starting with your career.
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Cause I gave you that tour.
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I need you to quit drag.
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Ok, Cut the tour. I need you to quit your style.
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Never try to do it. Never try to do it. Never try to do. Stand up again. Because you've only been trying the whole time.
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I need you to quit the makeup you've been doing because you've only gotten better because of me.
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Wow. Layla McQueen. Just. What was that? Emmy Award winning makeup artist. Emmy Award winning.
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Anyway, we should start with the Bald and the Beautiful. I think you've.
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How much. How much do you know about the Bald and the Beautiful? You've been. I've been a guest on that one too. I think I've been.
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Wait, I've been a guest on that one.
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I've been a guest on one, two.
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Wait, we should read
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three of these podcasts. Honestly, at this point, they owe us the GLAAD Awards.
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Not the glam. I've been a guest on the Bald and the Beautiful and they. It's like Trixx and Katya talk about, like stories and stuff.
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All right, but we have to be white.
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Yeah. Okay.
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I'll be. I'll be, I'll be.
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I think I'm the Katya. You The Trixie.
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Well, first of all, Trixie has a
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bit of a. I'm the kookier one.
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Well, first of all, you have to have a bit of an accent. Trixie has a little bit of an accent. What the fuck are you talking about?
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Not that.
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No, Trixie has a little bit of an accent. Maybe it's not that thick, but Trixie goes like, hi, it's me, Trixie Mattel. Well, we have got meek. Gotmeek this week is going on to. Gotmeek has won another challenge.
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Well, you know, in content, she kind of just talks like this and she's like, oh, oh. So that guy that I pooped on his skateboard and he vomited on my shoe.
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Oh, yeah, that actually. Is that actually. Did you record it in their home?
B
No, I did it at the studio.
A
Studio?
B
Oh, yeah, honey. The studio, baby.
A
When I was in Trixie's home, I was in the early stages. I helped lift that podcast up from
B
the ground because of the rest.
A
By the time you showed up. By the time you showed up, they had a studio because of the episode I did, honey.
B
Well, I. They literally built a studio because of the restraining order, and I'm not allowed to go within 300ft of her home. Who tricked you down to David? Her fiance.
A
What did you do to David? David.
B
He told me that David died.
A
Bitch. Why would you fucking say David was dead?
B
I didn't say he was dead. I said he was asleep. You saw the David Devil Cancer.
A
He's in there asleep. Oh, honey. All right, listen, let's go on to in the Deep. So let me read what in the Deep is about. Here we go. In the Deep. Stories that shape us. Also, you all should go listen to some of these podcasts. I'm sure they're all really quite wonderful. Shares the firsthand account of black and Latinx men as they peel back the layers of hardship in a world that does and always see them, all of them, for who they are. It explores the topics of discrimination, family and religion, giving us a better understanding of the difficulties that men face, allowing us to see their entire truth, no matter how complicated they might be. These conversations have thought leaders, athletes. That's where I come in. And authors prove that regardless of circumstances, they are always hope. There's always hope and health on the other side. Are you. Are you. Are you like of all the men in your family, are you, like, in the middle? Are you like one of the younger? Is one of the olders? Like none of your uncles, but like of your generation, like your. Your Aunts and whatever's and uncle's children.
B
I'm. I'm one of the older ones. My. My brother's probably the oldest. Well, no, that's not true. Like Nadia. Yeah, I'm, like, in the lower middle. Cause it's Nadia. Sean Ayoola, myself. So, yeah, I guess I'm the youngest one, actually, of that generation.
A
I've never asked you this before, but is Sean you.
B
Wait, did you ask me or Axe me?
A
You know, someone said this? When you correct people, no one likes you. When you correct people, no one likes you. Anyway, When. Is Sean June's kid?
B
No, he's. He's Rosemont's kid.
A
Got it, got it, got it, got it.
B
Yeah, got it.
A
So, Monet, I want to know, like. Like growing up as a black gay man in a black gay man in New York. What are you drinking?
B
Some Passion Produce.
A
That's not juice. Hold it to the goddamn camera. Can you stop consuming alcohol for a moment in time.
B
It's a bathroom for juice.
A
Hold it to the camera. You're not holding it to the camera. Hold it up to the camera to turn it around. Why are you. Why do you have to. Who else. Does anyone else? Coworkers? Drink at work while they're working? Or is it just my coworker?
B
You choose the weirdest.
A
You want to speak Spanish, bitch? That ain't going up. But I go with the. Does anyone else have a coworker who insists on drinking during work hours? Insists?
B
When was the last time I had a drink on a podcast? Insist, Bob.
A
Well, they stop doing.
B
It's so dramatic.
A
They stopped doing it. I didn't say every time. I didn't say pathologically. I didn't say consistently. I said insist. And you are insisting on it anyway.
B
What's your question, bitch? What's the question?
A
Growing up.
B
This is why we're not going to win award.
A
Growing up as a black queer man in New York City, I want to know if you felt the struggles of toxic masculinity seeping into your essence. He was, like, surrounded. We can't move on yet. At. Did you say you once surrounded a guy? Like, this is an ad break. This is an ad break. Oh, let's take a break.
B
Let's take a break.
A
Well, I was like, we just started this. We're back.
B
Y' all heard it here first. Jacob. Bob tries. Bob would be kind of get Jacob.
A
Damn.
B
What's your question?
A
Didn't you say that you once, like, bullied a kid and, like, tried to out him as gay? Because. But you were hiding that you were gay or something. What was it?
B
No, that was not me.
A
Maybe someone else said that.
B
Yeah, but I was. I was the gay one. I was the one people always trying to out. Cause I was so faggoty.
A
No, I know someone who was like, saw that someone else was gay, and then they, like, bullied them, being like, you were so gay. And they were like. Then later they were like, because I'm gay too.
B
Not about trying to turn me into the villain.
A
I'm asking. I did not put that on y'. All. I mean, that's a Glee plot line. Maybe I was watching a Ryan Murphy movie. You know what I mean? Yeah.
B
You've been around too many gays on a crucial. For so long now, you're trying to just confuse stories. So your question is, has my gayness in New York City affected how I as a man?
A
How has toxic masculinity affected you?
B
You know, I didn't grow up in a. Because, you know, after moving to New York, I was with my grandmother and my aunts and everyone besides my brother. So I never felt the weight of toxic masculinity, like, at home. I mean, I would see it when you see things on TV that you're like, oh, wow. There's the innate toxic masculinity that I felt through TV and through my experiences with friends and stuff like that. But in the home, no. I grew up with a bunch of. Around a bunch of women. And I love that. I don't regret that. I don't wish it was different. I really. I really liked that I grew up with a bunch of women. I didn't have that toxic masculine thing. And maybe there's some part of that. Some part of that made me super overtly flamboyant and feminine. I've always been very flamboyant, very femme. But I love it. What about you?
A
You know, I grew up with a lot of women and men. I grew up kind of half and half, like my mom, my Aunt Lisa, my Aunt Hazel, for sure, and then my Uncle Steve, my uncle Scotty, my Uncle John. John. We're pretty much the most consistent adults in my life. Then, of course, my grandmother's. My mother's mother died when I was pretty young. I was like 8 years old when she died. And my father's mother lived until I was in college. So I guess there was slightly more, actually, then my father's sisters, my Aunt Stacey, my aunt Tracy, my aunt Faye, my Aunt Chrissy.
B
A lot of women, it's like 13 women and, like, three guys.
A
Well, I do have my Aunt Deborah, but I didn't see my Aunt Deborah and my Aunt Stephanie very often. But I do have two aunts named Stacey and Tracy. And they're not twins, but I have.
B
There was Stacy and Tracy and Martha.
A
Yeah, there was Stacy and Tracy Faye and Hazel. Lisa. Well, Lisa's name is actually Felicia. We call her Lisa. Her nickname is Lisa. So, you know, toxic masculinity has had some effects on me. Not necessarily from my own toxic masculinity, but just being feminine and, like, clearly gay and people just like. You know, it's one thing when you're told that you're gay before you really have a second to reconcile that.
B
What do you think? I feel like I always knew. Like, I think I hate what you say about reconcile. But even, like, I think the earliest times I identified as gay, like, in my brain, never saying it out loud, I feel like I was like 7 years old, and I was like, bitch, you gay. And I was like, word. You know what I mean? In my brain, I was like, this is what you are. And I loved it.
A
I remember having crushes on boys and stuff, but I had never really taken the word gay because I don't think I really knew what it meant. Like, I didn't really know what that word meant, but I remember getting called gay. So I remember knowing that I liked boys before I associated myself with the word gay. For sure.
B
Got it.
A
Because I would get called gay. But kids didn't really break down what gay mean. They would just say gay and then kind of move on. They would be like, you're gay, which means, I believe that you have a sexual attraction to other guys. They were just like, you gay, nigga,
B
you gay, N you gay, son.
A
Which is a quote that I got from Blackie O, New York City drag queen, who one day a young kid saw her on the train and just said, nigga, you gay. And that really tickles me to this.
B
Is she from New York? That sounds like a very New York thing.
A
But she saw a kid, she was an adult, and the kids had a stir.
B
Oh, yeah. That's how little New York kids talk. I was told, n you gay many times.
A
Can you make you gay?
B
Or that nigga gay?
A
Can you read las cult to us?
B
Yeah, I was going to las culture. Join your culture consultants Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of culture alongside sizzling special guests to get into the hottest pop culture moments of the day and the formative cultural Experiences that turned them into culturistas. What pop culture moments recently have gagged you?
A
Bob, can I just say real quick, I will say this and I'm going to be vulnerable. Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers are eating us in the world of television and film. I ain't going to lie. Matt Rogers is on the show. I love that. For your with Jennifer Lewis and. And Molly Shannon and Vanessa Bay. Vanessa Baer. And you know, Bowen is on SNL and he's about. He bout to be in the fucking wicked movie they've created. They, they further developed like a very, very small character into a very, into a larger character. For they took like a character that was like a really small character in the play or the books and they're exploring the character more and Bowen Yang is going to be in that movie. And by the way, can I ask you a question? I don't know if this. I don't know if what I'm about to say is problematic or not. I watched Matilda and I was like, did this bitch go to an all black school? I was like, matilda has a lot of black classmates. And I was like, is Matilda like the one white girl at a all black school? I was like, this is wild.
B
I didn't watch the whole thing. I fell asleep, to be honest. That's not shades or anything. Yeah, I kind of fell asleep, but I thought I was also really tired. I took an edible. So it's not the movie's fault.
A
I was just like, yeah, that movie was surprisingly good. It was definitely not the movie because Matilda is a very, very good movie in my humble opinion.
B
Does it match up to the original with Mara Wilson?
A
I think so. I really do. Wow, it's very campy. Emma what's her name is Emma Thompson.
B
No, I always forgot her fucking name. It's not Emma, it's Thompson. That's correct.
A
It's Emma Thompson. Emma Thompson.
B
Emma Thompson.
A
Emma Thompson, 8. She was so good in the movie. I was like. There were several times I was like, wow, Emma Thompson is like really doing a great job as Trunk Rule.
B
She's a good character actress. She always plays these like these, these characters.
A
But I was the eight. I was, I was like, I was like, all Matilda friends are people of color. Everybody Matilda know the lady she read books to or tell stories to is
B
like a Brown teacher, Ms. Honey.
A
No, the brown lady she read stories to on top of the book, on top of the van. Oh yeah, yeah.
B
Yes, yes, yes.
A
And then Ms. Honey and then all of her class. I was like, not Matilda Going to an inner city school.
B
What pop culture moments have you gagged? I will have to say. Doja Cat's fucking red. Did you see the stoned look?
A
I did.
B
Yeah. That was fucking over. And you know, because every time Doja Cat a few months ago, she did her. She had a birthday party and she themed it, like, after, like, an Illuminati ceremony. So, you know, that had feel. So I'm like, oh, my God. Doja Cat finally had her initiation ceremony into the Illuminati, and everybody was doing this whole thing.
A
Are you afraid to do this?
B
No. What does that.
A
I mean.
B
And is the All Seeing Eye. What does this mean?
A
Don't act like you don't. Monet. Do not act like you don't know what that means. You know what it means. Because you did it in your ceremony. Because you did it in your ceremony when you joined. Oh, now you're like, oh, what is. I've never heard of this. Monet, you and I had our ceremony literally the exact same day. I'm the one who. I actually did mine two minutes before you got to do everything before you.
B
We're not allowed to say that.
A
And I recommend to say that we're
B
not allowed to say that.
A
We're not recording. We're not recording. We're not recording.
B
Yes, we are. Please edit that out. That's not supposed to be in this. Oh, my God. Anyway, Bob, put. Stop. Please stop. You're always gonna be so upset. So anyway, so. And so when I saw that she did the look, I was like, oh, she clearly has, like. Like, I think in my mind, I was like, they airbrush her. The spots are gonna show red. Airbrush her, then put. And then stoned a red power mesh and put that on top of her. But no, bitch. It was the airbrush her body. And it was six people individually stone her hands and her whole thing for six hours.
A
I mean, it's sickening. It is truly sickening.
B
Sickening, I think.
A
And I go ahead, you know, a big moment for me that's been, like, blowing my mind is the. They come up with Terry Joe on Psionic Talk. And, you know, think about Terry Joe is. I kind of wonder, like, because Terry Jo be saying some crazy stuff. And I'm like, I don't know if everyone. If anyone's ever going to turn on Terry Joe. It is all, you know, what's the word I'm looking for?
B
Satire.
A
Satire. You know what I mean? But Terry Joe be going bananas. I like, gross is wild. Do you see the most Recent thing, Terry Joe said he got banned for this one.
B
Oh, what?
A
So Terry Joe was. Was with these guys, and these guys kept saying, black lives matter. Then Terry Jo yelled, blue lives matter. And then. And then that person said, Dr. Martin Luther King did not die for this. Then Terry Joe said, fuck that Negro. And then Terry Joe, I think, got blocked or banned again. But Terry Joe gets banned all the time.
B
Well, the one I saw recently was her. She brought Michael Jackson impersonator into her live. And as she's talking and she just doesn't talk, she's just staring at the screen for, like a minute, and then she exits its thing, and just, like, tears just start coming out of her face, and she's like, I can't do this today. And I was like, it's so well done.
A
And Terry Joke just got a spread in Paper magazine.
B
I know. She looks beautiful on the COVID Have you ever. I mean, on the shot.
A
Have you been in a magazine or
B
on the COVID Yeah, I've been on a couple of covers. I was in Brooklyn Magazine. I was in Metro Source. I was in. On the COVID of Gay Times. Brooklyn Magazine. Yes, I was on the. On the COVID of Gay Times. And there's one more.
A
Victor magazine that's.
B
I don't know.
A
That was a Brooklyn magazine. I just out of touch with. With. With. With Brooklyn, to be honest. Like, I. Y'. All. The thing is, when you are a New Yorker, but you live in Manhattan, we really. Over on the Manhattan side, we really do not be tiptoeing over to Brooklyn terribly often. Even when Monet moved to Manhattan, she was like, I ain't going to Brooklyn.
B
I mean, but also, I'm like, from there, my whole life was there.
A
What are you holding in your hand?
B
A cigarette.
A
This is what you think is fierce? This is what you want to promote to the children who watch you? This is what you want to promote to the children who watch you?
B
I just do this to, like, really stress.
A
Me and Monet were doing this photo shoot in the UK one time. Monet found some guy. Or was it just Patty? I don't know who did it.
B
It was Patty.
A
Me and Monet were dressed up, and we were like, let's go take photos in the streets of London. And Monet was like, I want to smoke a cigarette. And I was like, but you don't smoke cigarettes? She goes, no, but it'll look fierce. It'll just look fierce. So we're in these photos, and it. Did they just fake smoking, you know? So let's go on to life out loud with lz Granderson, award winning journalist LZ Grand. That's where Monet comes in. Monet is an award winning. Monet has won an award and she did do some slight journalism for the exchange rate. So honestly, we deserve to body this one too. Award winning journalist lz Grandison draws from his own lived experience as a gay black father to host thought provoking, poignant and engaging conversations with some of the most influential and inspirational people in the LGTB community. Maybe do an interview where one of you pretends to be a historical figure. So why don't you, since you're the. Since it's about interviewing someone iconic in the queer community, you should interview me. Or is there a person I should be? Should I be a specific person?
B
Yeah, be, be, be, be. Harvey Milk.
A
Harvey Milk. Harriet Tubman would also be a great one. What could be Harriet Tubman?
B
Aren't they supposed to be LGBTQ people?
A
You don't know Harriet Tubman's life. You do not know Harriet Tubman's life. Let's not assume. Let's not assume.
B
So, Ms. Tubman, you have.
A
For these purposes, Harriet Tubman is non binary Theriot Tubman.
B
So person Tubman, you have variation. This is groundbreaking. After all these years, you have broken your silence and come out as queer. How does this, how does, how does it feel after so long?
A
I don't know. Why am I angelou?
B
I know, I know. I mean, it's probably impossible to get words out at this point. I mean, for over 250 years, you're finally breaking your silence.
A
I don't know how good you are at math, but I did not die 250 years ago. I died in the early 1900s. But I understand that math is quite difficult for young people nowadays, and it does feel quite nice to break my silence on my queerness.
B
Okay, what are your thoughts on some of the, you know, some of the major hurdles that we've had to tackle as the queer community? Don't ask, don't tell. You know, how do you feel about gays, about queer civil rights?
A
Well, don't ask, don't tell is quite interesting. As you know, I was the first woman to ever lead a military mission.
B
Oh, adjusting your breasts. Sorry, this seems a little inappropriate, but we love you, Ms. Tubman. So I mean, person Tubman.
A
Harriet Tubman. So clearly I do believe that. I do believe. Why is Harriet Tubman talking about I don't know? So clearly you're about to do your
B
Bernie Sanders for Harriet.
A
Oh, that's an absolutely brilliant idea. As Harriet Tubman, I do actually believe that queer people deserve to have an opportunity to. To serve in the military at the same rate as straight. Their straight counterparts. When I moved between the south and Canada over 12 times, and in my lifetime saves almost 700 humans from the entrapments of slavery, I honestly am gagged. I love the idea that Herod's heaven kind of sounds like a. An old Jewish man from Brooklyn.
B
I mean, she spoke the Queen. She spoke the Queen's English, probably. So you could probably talk like the Queen and she. You sound like Harriet.
A
Yeah. Imagine she might have had a Southern accent. I mean, she spoke in broken English. That was. That was. It was pretty well documented that she spoken broken or like just English. Like, it wasn't. Like, she didn't usually speak grammatically correctly, which is pretty common for enslaved people at the time. And she probably had a very thick Southern accent. But I also, as we all know, I don't even know what the hell accent sounded like back then. Monet schooled us all, apparently. Monet, the fucking historian.
B
Hello. Let's go into Pride.
A
Bill Nye, the history guy over here.
B
Pride cast Jonathan Bennett, AKA Aaron Samuels from Mean Girls, has added another AKA to his name as host of your new favorite podcast, pridecast. Pridecast encompasses the inspiration of LGBTQIA communities as it shares impactful stories themselves, form, educate, and inspire through personal storytelling based on real life experiences from trailblazers. Talk about your time filming Mean Girls and why your footage was cut.
A
Well, first I have to find out which one. Jonathan Bennett. This is a bit where you need to pretend that you were filming Mean Girls to relate to that thing. So it's a bit saying that you were film. You actually were meant to be in Mean Girl. Oh, you know, Jonathan Bennett was the. The Queen crush. And Jonathan Bennett recently came out as gay.
B
No, he's been gay for, like, the past, like, seven, eight years.
A
Ben done been gay. Some people been gay.
B
Some people.
A
He was gay when he was born. Monet. Wow.
B
No, he. He definitely was not. He. This just happened.
A
This just in. He's talking. He's talking about the dicks. This just in. I'm kidding.
B
So, Bob, you know, I was supposed to be Mean Girls and they cut my scene.
A
Well, Jonathan Bennett, I'm not gonna lie. You kind of sound like you're doing a black scent. I have to be honest.
B
I'm not. This is my real accent. This is how I talk. But they try to whitewash me in Mean Girls. I'm Actually, I'm black and white. My mother is third generation black.
A
Third generation. Now, Genevieve, where are you from? Where are you born?
B
I was born in Ecuador, but my mom is from Trinidad and my dad is from St. Paul, Minneapolis.
A
Because Wikipedia got it all. They said Ohio.
B
I know, it's crazy. This is again, more, more, more whitewashing my heritage and my. Where my people are from. Power to the people.
A
Well, I am so sorry to everyone in Rossford, Ohio. You no longer declaim the icon. Now I want to know, did you. Are the rumors true that there was an unseen fight between you and Daniel Franzese?
B
Okay, I don't know how this got out. This is kind of crazy. It stayed buried for almost, what, 20 years now. But yeah, there was a fight between with Daniel and I on set. And what was it all did you know? Well, there was this whole. I mean, you know, we were the two gay guys on set and there was this whole. There was this power struggle. You know, sometimes Bob, I mean, you could probably identify with this when there are too many gay people on scene. Like, it's like more one person wants to be gay than the other. And it was just like us trying to out gay each other. And then there was this talks of a proposed glory hole scene. And I felt very uncomfortable with that. Cause, you know, I was still in the closet. Not many people knew I was gay. And I didn't wanna do the glory hole scene, but Daniel wanted to do it. I said, I can't let this motherfucker. He insists.
A
I mean.
B
But here's the tricky part. He wanted me and he. In the glory hole scene, I was going to be the giver and he was going to be the receiver. And I wanted to do it the other way around.
A
Oh, you wanted to be. You wanted a top, but the director saw you as more of a bottom.
B
No, I wanted to bottom. And he was. He was going to. They wanted me to give into the glory hole and he would be receiving. But I want to do it the other way around.
A
But Tina Fey didn't see you in that light.
B
Exactly. And then Lindsey wanted to get in on the action too. I said, oh, no, honey, there's only room for one fire crotch here.
A
Maybe if you and Lindsey are slapped fighting over the dick. That could have been an interesting scene too.
B
That could be hot, but let me see.
A
Or if Amanda Siegfried could have gotten in there on some of the action.
B
Lindsay's dick is way bigger than mine, so that wouldn't have been no competition. You know what? I'm Saying, Bob, and the last question
A
that I want to ask you, do you have any upcoming projects that you really want to promote?
B
Yeah, I have a new Hallmark straight to Hallmark movie about. It's called My Two Gay Sons and Me. And then I'm also doing a movie on the Candace Cameron Religious Christian channel, which Jesus Was a Fag two. The second one. Last year, Jesus was a Fag was a smash hit. This year we're doing Jesus Was a Fag Too, and it's gonna be great.
A
Thank you so much for your time.
B
Thank you so much, Bob. I told Jacob, I said, hey, will do, will do.
A
Do you think Jesus Was a Fag? Might be a good movie?
B
Honestly? Can we? Let's do it. I like it.
A
When you said Jesus was a fag too, I thought you meant also.
B
I know I said it too, but you know, in improv, I was like, well, that's a great one. Let's say Jesus was a fag. Jesus is a sag too, Bob. I think of your feet.
A
Well, that's how they did it. Coming to America. It was like the second one. It was also called Coming to America. It wasn't called coming to America 2 was called Coming to America. We know it's really hard to search, which makes it hard to search for each one.
B
Yeah.
A
Did you watch the second Coming to America?
B
Yeah, I thought it was great. I really enjoyed it.
A
Yeah, it was pretty good. Was it Amazon, right?
B
It was an Amazon, yeah. Leslie Leslie Jones played his. Played the new kids, like Eddie Murphy's woman of his girlfriend, Jermaine Fowler.
A
Jermaine Fowler, who was my drag child on Celebrity Drag Race and lost to your problematic child. No, your child lost too.
B
I know. Oh, yeah, my kid was.
A
I don't think we've ever talked about that before, have we?
B
We have and we shouldn't, Bob. We don't need no more. We don't need no more lawsuits going on here. We're good. We're good. Let's move on.
A
So you think they were problematic? Do you think they were problematic or not?
B
Let's go on to be interested. Bob, can you read V. Interested, please?
A
If you're scared, just say you're scared.
B
Oh, my God. V Interest. I'm gonna read if you don't read it.
A
V. Interesting. On Tuesdays, V Highlights the interesting parts of stories we often lose in the chaotic news cycle. Fridays are their chance to spend a lot of time going deeper into the complex evergreen big issues that matter the most but don't have a simple tweetable solution. Part explainer, part thought starter show. These goal is to make you the most well informed and the interesting person in the room.
B
I mean, one of these that we could talk about is. But I mean, this story is. There's so much that we still don't know. But the motherfucking, the motherfucking classified documents, girl. I mean, they got every. They're finding. Did you hear Pence had classified documents?
A
I was on the ship. What did I miss?
B
So Mike, they found Mike Pence has classified documents as well.
A
Like, was Trump like or was you think Pence was like, I was holding these when Pence's mom found out with Pence, like, I was holding these for a friend. These aren't mine.
B
No.
A
Wasn't that you when your grandma found the porns? You're like, these are her friends. These are my classified documents. I swear. I swear.
B
I mean, there's so much. I mean, so. But the big thing I think everyone should know is that the big difference is here Pence and Biden are cooperating and they offered their deeds off when they said, hey, just so you guys know, we have these. Whereas Donald Trump people found out about his and he was saying, no, I don't have them. Then he tried to flush them and all this stuff. So that's the big differences. One is obstruction. Donald Trump was obstructing the law by not cooperating and handing over the documents that he had. Whereas the other two, Biden and Pence are cooperating and they said they have these things.
A
Pence is gonna write a tell all like one day because Pence knows he's not.
B
He's super religious.
A
Pence and Trump don't fuck with each other anymore at all. At all. I know, and one day.
B
But Pence is like super religious, Bob. He's like one of those like, like, like he, like he.
A
And doesn't the Lord say, shine, shine a light. Doesn't the Lord say, don't hide your. Your talent under a bushel and your talent is exposing the former president. Bust it out, honey.
B
I'm trying to recite scriptures. It's hilarious. Did it, did it, did. Didn't the Lord say, the niggas get stitches, get stitches.
A
Didn't Lord say, act up, get smacked up? And Donald Trump was acting up and I think it's time to get smacked it up, honey. No, that is absolutely banana. I'm telling right now. I was saying, like, I remember when Arnold Schwarzenegger got elected as the governor and we were like, that's it. Politics are insane. Cause first it was Jesse Ventura got elected as the governor of Minneapolis, where you are right now, actually.
B
I know.
A
And they were like, a former wrestler is now the governor. This is wild. And then California said, hold my beer. We're gonna elect Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnold Schwarzenegger became the governator. And we were like, that's it. And then the United states, then Washington D.C. said, Bitch, hold Mike Heg. We're going to elect Donald fucking T. And I think that I really feel like electing Jesse Ventura was like, the beginning of the circuit, the true circus of identity politics and. And celebrityism in the field of politics. That's why I am taking. I am taking Kanye West's presidential bid very seriously. And we gotta squash this immediately.
B
Well, people aren't taking Donald Trump seriously. They're like, oh, there's no way he's gonna do it again. I'm like, this is. Are people dumb? This is exactly what we thought last time. People was like, carl, yeah, he got the nomination, but he not gonna win. I'm like, take this motherfucker seriously. Don't think. Because his, like, he doesn't have as many fans as before. And, like, it's just like, he's not gonna get it. I'm like, we need to treat this motherfucker serious. He can win again. Like we. We. That is should be everyone's reality that he can win again.
A
I agree with you. Donald Trump will lie, cheat, steal, and flush his way to a victory if he needs to. Girl, he will say anything he needs to say, anything he needs to do to get back in that fucking White House. Yeah, because it makes him feel like he's invincible. Because he knows that it's ironic that one day he might get locked up when he kept trying to get everyone to lock up. Lil mama.
B
Well, you know who. They just. They just commute, not commuted. They just slapped some charges off of his ass. O R Kelly. You heard about this?
A
No. What happened?
B
Chicago prosecutor.
A
How long was I at sea? This is wild.
B
Chicago prosecutor dropped sex abuse charges against R. Kelly. And according to multiple reports, an Illinois Prosecutor dropped sex 10 charges of sex abuse against R. Kelly. The cost was one of the factors weighed in her decision. Cook County State's Attorney Kim Fox told reporters that her office believes justice has been served against R. Kelly with those two convictions. Because with the two convictions, he's already serving 30 years. And so they're like, that's like. So they're not gonna seek more, probably,
A
because it probably just costs more money to pursue the rest of the case. Even if the cases are out there, you still have to try them. And they're probably like, he's old. Or old enough that he's probably not gonna be.
B
How old is r. Kelly? He's 56 and 30 is in the middle. This motherfucker gonna be 86.
A
I don't think most people live to their 80s. I don't think most people live that long.
B
Yeah, could you imagine? I mean, dying in jail?
A
Ooh.
B
But you know what, bitch nigga, you did what you did, so pay the piper. Ironically. Yas Jesus. Yas Jesus is a faith in sexuality. Oh, Bob's triggered a Faith is a faith and sexuality affirming comedy podcast that believes you don't have to pick between gay and God. Each week, actor and comedian Daniel Francese and his former televangelist bestie Azaria Southworth meet to yassify your faith, talk about your relationship with religion, and suggest some things the church can do to drag it up and make it more appealing. I mean, y' all know plenty about me and Bob's experience in religion. I'll give you, like, a really fast version. I grew up in the church I was in. I used to do. I had a confirmation. I grew up Methodist. But in high school, I joined a group called Songs of Solomon, and it was a religious group. And we would. We would do. It was a.
A
What about doing an all religious rap group called Methodist Man?
B
I hate Christian rap. Christian rap is always bad.
A
Do you like Method man, though?
B
Do I like Method Man? I mean, not. I'm not like, I don't like. I never, like, bought Method Man's music. But hear me out. He's a good rapper.
A
Methodist man could really eat. I'm just saying.
B
And then in high school, I was part of Songs of Solomon, which was a religious curricular activities group. And we did a lot of. We would go on church tours. We would sing in churches all the time. And then I switched to Al and Ame in Queens, and I would go to church every Sunday. And then I sang in a church choir after that, after college, to make money. And.
A
Yeah, I want to write a quote, quick, Christian rap, and see if I can convince you that Christian rap is hot.
B
I hate Christian. I never like Christian rap. It's never good.
A
I'm asking if I can write a Christian rap, and maybe I will convince you that Christian rap is actually where it's at.
B
Maybe. But even the best one, there's Lecrae, everyone's boasts about. And I'm not saying Lecrae is bad. I just don't like hearing Christian rap. Lecrae is like, award winning.
A
We're gonna take a short break for you all. It won't be a break at all. I'm going to be back in like three seconds for you all. But I'm going to write a few verses of a Christian rap and do them for Monet X Change. And I am back. Monet is over there rapping money. You know Monet got that little head bobbing. She be like, come on back, Mo, what you got?
B
I only have like a stanza.
A
I don't have a lot either. You ready? Here we go. But God so loved the world that he gave his son. So yes, it's giving. You can be the redemption one. Don't you hide and don't act meek and if he slaps your face, turn the other cheek Clap your hands if you want to be heaven sent and it only costs 10%. So don't be so proud to be gay. Say when you see your father on the judgment day, it's going to be a holy reunion. If I'm drinking wine, it's at the communion. You know yourself and you know your worth. Remember on the first day, God created the heaven and earth. Honestly, I found my calling.
B
Christian rap. Imagine you just made a hard pivot to Christian rap.
A
What you got, Monet?
B
I said I was down on my knees knowing that I was gay. I prayed the Lord to end my suffering. Make me another way. If Dick was so good, why'd he have to make it bad? My life was so good. I just love being a fag.
A
Oh, my God. I don't know what Monet ate that that made me want to pray. But that was not Chris Rapper. That turned into, like, a slut song. Monet had one verse about God and the rest was about slopping and topping and sucking dick. When they was like, I prayed one day that God would make me not gay because I could not find another way. I was busting down, sucking down, going around town, throwing anything to get my throat down. One time I sucked the dick so hard, my throat started choking and bleeding. And then next thing I know, I was walking through the alley looking for this nigga. I was needing kneading.
B
I got the bike.
A
Holiday. I got the bike. So anyway, praise God.
B
And the last one.
A
Pray the gay away. When I say pray the gay, I mean literally, like one specific gay. That. Gay. Pray that.
B
Gateway.
A
The last one is called Translash. Podcast with Amara Jones. With anti trans violence and political backlash at an all time high award Winning journalist Amara Jones, host the Translation Podcast where trans people and allies talk back about what matters most and discuss how to create fairness for the world. I actually have something I want to talk about in this already off the bat.
B
Tell me.
A
It is a topic I've been talking about forever, which is Drag Story Hour. So Drag Story Hour. Everyone is a people trying to ban Drag Story Hour. This is a very, very sneaky ruse to creating a law that they're saying is anti trans, but it's really, I mean, anti drag, but it's really just anti trans. It's really just anti trans. There, there are very few laws out there against, you know, industries of people, but the way that they're attacking these drag performers is by, by attacking trans people because they can make a really blanket statement. So if a drag queen said that she's a man, that their man just a woman, then people can see a trans woman and then put that label on them without that person's permission. So then that way they can say if a trans person is just existing in front of, of a child, then they are now breaking some law about Drag Queen Story hour or drag in front of children. And the whole goal is just to get people, trans people, to just not leave their homes. You can't go to bathrooms. You can't talk about yourself at work. You can't be teachers. You can't be anywhere where children are. You can't be anywhere where children are. You can't mention yourself to. You can't mention the fact that you are trans to any person younger than this age or between this age and this age. It's all just an attempt to get trans people to stay in their home and hide so that bigots won't have to look at people that they don't like. And
B
the Dragon Story R Bill, there's not a bill for it yet, right?
A
There's a proposed bill.
B
There is proposed, yeah.
A
In different places.
B
Well, different, but not like a federal law. There's like, I know there's one in Florida, there's one in. There are a few states. I didn't know there was like a federal bill proposed. I mean, and that's what is so dangerous about having this fucking, this fucking. This goddamn Desantis, who is such a dangerous governor.
A
My thing.
B
I am so nervous about DeSantis because unlike Trump, who's a bumbling fucking idiot, Desantis is not a stupid guy.
A
So
B
it feels scarier to have him as a proposed leader of this country because he's not as dim witted and as stupid as Donald Trump, he works in a smarter way to be really licentious and do some really crazy things. I mean, they're literally taking out African American studies from school. He figured out a way for them to take away African American studies studies. It is so upsetting to me. So I say all that to say, I feel like he's gonna find such sneaky ways to attack the trans community if we let someone like this. But both.
A
He already has found sneaky ways to
B
attack, but on a federal way. If he's the leader of the country, he can attack it in a federal way. To have these nationwide bans against trans people in our. In our country, that's so scary to me.
A
So what I'm saying is, for you all who think that it's just some ban against drag queens, it's not just that. That is not that simple. It's not just a ban against a specific occupation or. Or even for some people, it's just a hobby. Y' all don't realize most drag queens. Most drag queens in the world, just hobbyists. Most drag queens who drink drag are doing it for fun. Most of us don't. Most of us do not make enough money to support ourselves doing dragons. Monet and I do and have been even before RuPaul's Drag Race. That's because we were. We were.
B
We. We lived in New York City's a different case. We live in New York City.
A
And also not everyone who does who dresses drag wants to quit their job. Some people just want to do it and have fun at a festival. Like fucking nutty ass fucking. What's his name? Jorge Santos. I was young and want to be young and have fun at festivals. You know what I mean?
B
So did you see Jorge Santos and
A
Trixie Mattel going at it? And George Santos knew that deep. The deep lore of RuPaul's Drag Race. He knew the deep cut. That was not. That wasn't surface stuff. He was like, well, let's just say that I also won over a fan. Okay, Mary? All right. Yeah, okay. Just say you're a fan. Having a video of someone catching George Santos at the elevator, being who's going to win the season of Drag Race. No, someone chasing us. It said, Representative Santos or whatever. Congressman Santos or whatever his title is. They were like, who's gonna win this season of Drag Race? And he turned around and he was
B
like,
A
I don't know. I'm not watching this season. And then they were like, well, you had a lot to say to Trixie Mattel the other day, he goes, I'm not watching this season work.
B
I mean, not work. I don't mean it like that. I'm just like, oh, my God, you're a fan of.
A
You're a George Phantos. You're a fan. You're a Phantos.
B
Oh, my God. That probably is the thing that exists. People are sending fucking Jeffrey Dahmer male email in the fucking. In prison. They probably have Fantos out there.
A
But look out for these laws. There are anti trans laws. Not just that. There's also the sports laws. And these sports laws are trying to get trans people to not participate in sports. And you all need to know this too. When one of these laws is happening, it is literally in some of these communities targeting just one person. Trans people are less than 1% of the population. So when it comes down to, like, I don't want trans girls playing volleyball or whatever the sport is in certain places, that rule that will literally just be targeting one person in the community despite the scientific evidence that says different things. Yes, Monae.
B
No, I was trying to remember the trans swimmer that.
A
I think her name's, like, Lena or something. She's from Yale or.
B
Yeah, whatever happened with that did that. I never, like, remember hearing.
A
Well, here's. Here's the interesting fact for you all. Some people think that. Some people think maybe she's not from. Yeah, I can't remember her name. Some people think that, like, trans women are just crushing and dominating sports. Just. You all know there is only. Only in all of sports.
B
One.
A
One. I'm gonna repeat one.
B
Leah.
A
Leah. What'd I say?
B
Leah Thomas. Leah Catherine Thomas.
A
There is only one trans woman in all of sports that holds a title, and I don't think any of them hold. No trans women hold any titles on a national level. Literally zero. Literally zero. So trans women are not just crushing and dominating sports. This is not the myth that you all are being fed. It is not the lie that you all are being told. When you hear about, like, trans women in boxing and, like, she crushed her skull, then what? They don't tell you stuff like fractures happen in boxing, in ufc, practically all the time, no matter who's fighting who. But they'll take this isolated incident from this one thing and make it seem like, well, there's just a man beating up women. You know what I mean? So I encourage you to actually look a little bit further and not just read these headlines, and you'll realize that they've been sensationalized to target and demonize Trans people.
B
Do you know the only man I would accept to beat up a woman? Who me to you? That's the man that's gonna beat up a woman.
A
And maybe if we can just talk some more about why we think we should win a GLAAD Award. Monet, Monet. Talk to this GLAD Award. Monet, if you could say something to Monet X Change, what would you say to young GLAAD Award, to future GLAD Award?
B
I would say that I think Sibling Rivalry Podcast was a podcast birthed to bring two friends that was birthed to bring two friends together. And it's in more than that. It, it has. It brought communities together. There are people who literally weekly get their weekly fill of endorphins, their weekly feel of joy, their weekly feel of happiness, their weekly fill of life by listening to Sipping Ryver. We have brought this to hundreds of thousands of people. We do it for hundreds of thousands of people a week. And Sipping Rivalry is unique in the way that we can take any topic, the most mundane to the most interesting topics, and make them a fucking moment. We could. We make them fierce. Bitch, that's your assistant. All right.
A
Monet asked me why. Why we should win and not the other girls.
B
Why should we win?
A
Who should go home?
B
And why, Bob? Why should Cinemary win above the other podcasts?
A
All right, I want our producers to put some copyright free music behind this impassioned story speech. Sibling Rivalry is not just a podcast. Sibling Rivalry is of movement. My best friend and I have been working on this podcast for over five years. We are the longest running RuPaul's Drag Race related podcast, only one that's still running. We've been in the game for a very long time and we have not just reviewing some Drag Race here and there. We are actually launching dialogues that change people's lives. And I can testify because it's changed my life personally. Did that sell it? Do you think that was.
B
That was it. That was it.
A
I really edited that last part out, but yeah, that was really good. No, you can keep the part where I'm saying, do you think that's holding? I think that's funny. And then the last thing I have, just before we go, I have a couple members of the board, the GLAAD board of directors. I'm just gonna say some names that we can just say nice compliments about them.
B
Okay?
A
So the first one, Monet and I are not above buttering up you all. We will. Monet said earlier she would not. I will. I will. I will butter my bread is Peppermint. I believe she's on the board. Can we say some nice things about Peppermint?
B
You know, Peppermint, formerly known as Peppermint Gummy Bear, is a frequent player on the Civil Rivalry podcast. And we think that she is, and let me not speak for we. I think she is probably one of the most talented, probably one of the fiercest board members of the GLAAD media. People.
A
Peppermint is a literal icon. Peppermint is the first openly trans person to originate a role in a Broadway show. Peppermint is the New York City drag scene. Peppermint is a trailblazer on RuPaul's Drag
B
Race and season nine.
A
Absolutely stunning. And, Pep, you've been on this podcast, so make sure you vote for us, because honestly, if we win, you're basically winning too.
B
Yeah, we'll have you on if Pep. If we win, Bob and I will have you on the. The episode post. Win. And we will give you your flowers as we do every time you're here.
A
Who's up next? Jacob? Yeah. Next we have Meghan McCain.
B
Megan McCain.
A
Meghan McCain joined the GLAAD board of directors in 2014.
B
Would you like to say it would be nice.
A
Better, Monet.
B
Meghan McCain is a former pundit on the View, is part of the GLAAD Media Awards because of her work for the LGBTQIA community. And you know what? The single rivalry is part of the LGBTQIA community. I think she wants to further her work in this community by uplifting this black podcast with two black people.
A
Now, Megan, I wanna read it to you, Megan. And I wanna say, listen, whatever you and Monet had going on, that's between y'.
B
All.
A
Whatever reason you're not following her, that's between y'.
B
All.
A
I'm gonna say that for me, we ain't got no beef. And. And I think that just pork, that. You need to keep that in mind when you cast your vote for. For the Best podcast, is all I'm saying.
B
And we. And so not just the Glam Media Awards, y', all, the Queerties. If you can vote for the Queerties every single day, we want y' all to go. We're gonna put the link in our description box on YouTube and our Patreon so y' all can go and click. Every day, y'.
A
All.
B
Every day. Give us a little vote. You wake up in the morning, brush your teeth, you beat your meat, pop your pussy in the morning. Whatever you do, add to that, Send us a vote.
A
Yeah, please do. So this is if we're being fully honest, this is actually me and. Me and Monet's first year actually, like, advertising the awards, like, actually advocating for ourselves. And we've never worn one, so maybe this year we actually can win one. So hopefully we can. You all will go out and vote for us, and we will get some love from you all because it would be really lovely. Oh, I'm also. I'm also nominated for. We're Here. I'm nominated for Sibling Rivalry, and I am nominated for. And Best Music Video with Ocean Kelly and Herrera Bissette. So I've been nominated for three Queerties and two GLAAD Awards.
B
So, you know, last year.
A
And also, yeah, also Ocean Kelly is nominated for Best New Artist. And I really, really want y' all to make sure Ms. Thing wins that.
B
Oh, my God. Who else? Who's Ocean Kelly up against?
A
Let's see. Best New Artist. Hold on.
B
Give me one second. Queer righties.
A
Is it next big thing or is it next. Is it new artists? New artists, new music, breakthrough musical. Musical. What Ocean Kelly is nominated against. Here we have. Okay, give me one second. Dochi. Wow. Okay, work. Madison Rose. Sam Williams.
B
Gia Woods.
A
Z Machine. Omar Apollo. Omar Rudbark. Okay, twoMars. Chappelle Roan and Ms. Laguna Blue. You know, I said what I said. I'm Ocea Kelly. You got this, boo. You got this.
B
Well, so confirmed. Bob hates Dochi. All right, y'.
A
All, Hi, my name's Dochi with two I's.
B
This has been a great podcast. Bob, I have to
A
just leave.
B
Let you go now.
A
Just leave.
B
Leave.
A
Just leave. Stop talking.
B
I'll let you go.
A
Stop flapping your gums and leave.
B
Hang up the phone and leave.
A
Don't say goodbye to me. Just leave.
B
Get a better disposition.
A
Goodbye. Just go.
B
I hope that you get a better attitude.
A
No need to say anything.
B
And y' all see, this was. He stopped being sick. This was putting on the whole time. This was not sick. Yeah.
A
And before I'm go jog a mile.
B
This was lying. Lying.
A
Jog. Hang up.
B
The hang up. Who wore hoodies first?
A
Who wore hoodies first? I literally can prove that I wore a hoodie before you ever wore a hoodie. But I would say one thing you had. You were bald first. You ate that. You ate the hair bald game, honey.
Date: February 13, 2023
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
In this lively episode of Sibling Rivalry, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change celebrate their podcast’s nomination for a GLAAD Media Award. The duo delve into playful one-upmanship, share career reminisces, dissect the GLAAD competition, and address recent queer culture moments. Layered with irreverent banter, the episode balances personal stories with commentary on LGBTQ+ issues, queer representation, and ongoing culture wars.
Setting the Tone: Right away, Bob and Monét lean into their signature rivalry, referencing the podcast’s GLAAD nomination and trading barbs about opening doors for each other.
Playful Bragging: Both hosts claim credit for each other’s success, especially regarding tours and Drag Race history.
Meta-Awareness: They jokingly hypothesize ways to sway GLAAD voters; for example, bringing their GLAAD awards on camera or playing up their strengths.
Drag Career Showdown: Bob and Monét argue over who first hosted tours and achieved significant milestones, using infamous Drag Race references for comic effect.
Legendary Rivalry: Each accuses the other of riding coattails, with plenty of affectionate shade thrown in.
Sizing Up the Field: The pair review other podcast nominees—like The Bald and the Beautiful, Las Culturistas, In the Deep—and riff off their formats by impersonating hosts, pitching bits, or mocking podcast clichés.
Mock Submissions: In classic Sibling Rivalry style, Bob and Monét create fake segments, such as a historical interview with "Harriet Tubman" as a non-binary icon, and faux Mean Girls and Pridecast scenarios.
Las Culturistas & TV Success: They discuss how other gay creatives (like Matt Rogers & Bowen Yang) are breaking into mainstream TV and movies.
Doja Cat & Satire: They break down viral moments, like Doja Cat's fashion and Terry Joe's controversial TikTok persona.
Religion and Identity: Monét outlines her religious upbringing; Bob proposes a Christian rap verse, leading to a hilarious (and explicit) rap battle.
Trans Rights & Drag Story Hour: They express deep concern about anti-trans and anti-drag legislation, emphasizing how these bills really target trans existence.
Sports & Trans Myths: Bob busts myths around trans athletes.
Personal Advocacy: Both argue their case for a GLAAD win with a blend of sincerity and humor.
Flattering the Judges: The hosts shamelessly flatter GLAAD board members (esp. Peppermint and Meghan McCain) and encourage listeners to vote for them.
On career rivalry:
"Let me make one thing clear, Monet. You've never done anything before me ever!" (Bob, 06:39)
On drag as activism:
"It's all just an attempt to get trans people to stay in their home and hide so that bigots won't have to look at people they don't like." (Bob, 64:47)
On trans athletes:
"Trans women are not just crushing and dominating sports. This is not the myth that you all are being fed." (Bob, 70:28)
On the podcast’s impact:
"Sibling Rivalry is not just a podcast. Sibling Rivalry is a movement..." (Bob, 72:09)
On voting for them:
"You wake up in the morning, brush your teeth, you beat your meat, pop your pussy in the morning. Whatever you do, add to that, Send us a vote." (Monét, 75:53)
| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | | --------- | -------------- | | 00:00 | Episode kickoff, rivalry tone set | | 06:00–09:00 | "Who did it first?" – Career one-upmanship | | 13:00–15:00 | Minnesota trip & weather hardships | | 19:30 | Deliberating GLAAD competition | | 31:00–34:00 | Queer upbringings & toxic masculinity discussion | | 36:30–38:00 | Pop culture: Matilda, Doja Cat, Terry Joe | | 59:15–61:30 | "Christian rap" segment – comic rap battle | | 63:00–66:30 | Anti-trans/anti-drag laws commentary | | 70:20 | Busting trans athlete myths | | 71:10–73:10 | Heartfelt (and tongue-in-cheek) GLAAD plea | | 75:39–77:00 | Final self-promo and call for listeners to vote |
Sibling Rivalry stays true to its brand—rambunctious, irreverent, loving, and always relevant. Bob and Monét masterfully blend personal anecdotes, queer cultural critique, self-deprecation, and biting wit. They tackle serious topics like anti-trans policy, toxic masculinity, and LGBTQ+ representation while never losing the comedic spark that fans love.
Whether you’re here for the drag queen shade, queer culture deep dives, or pointed political takes, this episode is a microcosm of why "Sibling Rivalry" is a standout contender in LGBTQ+ media.