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Bob the Drag Queen
Close your eyes.
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Monet X Change
Exhale.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.
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Bob the Drag Queen
And breathe.
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Monet X Change
1-800-contacts. My name is Bob the Drag Queen,
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Bob the Drag Queen
and I'm Monet X Change.
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Monet X Change
And this is sibling rivalry. On today's episode, we find out. Does New York City smell?
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Bob the Drag Queen
We tried to win another GLAAD Award.
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Monet X Change
And we find out what made Monet say this.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Hooking up in nature does not speak to me. Like, I don't want to be kneeling on, like, sticks and fucking up my knees. And I'm not. I'm. No. And we find out what made Bob say this.
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Monet X Change
I'm recovering from a toxic relationship with my best friend for the past 12, 13 years. That's what I'm recovering from.
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Bob the Drag Queen
My interior designer, Tim went to this art auction, Tim Tirico. And he got me this three foot by five foot, beautiful painting of John Lewis.
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Monet X Change
Oh, congratulations. I'm so glad you have that. That sounds really cool.
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Jacob
She's frozen. Not for me, but let's see if it.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, Lord, she.
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Monet X Change
I don't know.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Every. Every hotel Bob is in is bad. Everyone actually has a really nice hotel. Are you back? Is he back?
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Monet X Change
Oh, I can hear you guys, by the way. You guys never leave for me. I hear you guys the whole time. There's never a moment where you guys have left me.
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Bob the Drag Queen
It's 3ft by 5ft.
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Monet X Change
Were you into. Were you inland to John Lewis?
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Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I'm grateful for his contributions to American democracy and because of the things he did are the reasons why I'm here today. I acknowledge that. And it's a beautiful painting. I'm very happy that he. I'm very happy. Well, here's the thing. So Tim went to this art. Tim went to this art. Say it again.
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Monet X Change
What did John Lewis do? I don't know much about John Lewis. I just know he's a congressman
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Jacob
and
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Monet X Change
he was the reach across the aisle guy.
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Jacob
Right.
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Monet X Change
I don't know much about his life, though.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Right. And he also. I remember in school he did something like. Was it like the. He was part of like the freedom bus rides and also like the. Like, he, like a lot of civil rights activism. Like he was protesting racial segregation, like sit ins and the March on Washington, shit like that.
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Monet X Change
I'm pretty sure he was at the March on Washington.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. I'm pretty sure he was. Interesting.
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Monet X Change
I didn't know that. I don't know much. I don't know very. I know very little. I just remember when he passed away, Obama was really upset about it. And that's why. That's when I remember that he became the guy who, like, basically coined the phrase reach across the aisle.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I knew that about John Lewis. Yeah. I'm pretty sure John Lewis and Martin Luther King were contemporaries. And I mean, y' all probably gonna like no one, you dumb, uneducated, St. Lucian bitch. I'm pretty sure he was on Selma too. Didn't y' all talk about it in your Selma episode of We're Here about John Lewis? Yeah, I'm gonna look it up. John Lewis was absolutely on the bridge of Selma. Hold on.
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Monet X Change
We did not talk about John Lewis on. On during the Selma episode. But he was John Lewis.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. John Lewis was known for his civil rights activism. He was. Yes, he was. He was. He was one of. He was one of the Big Six leaders in the group to organize the 1963 March on Washington and led the first of three Selma Montgomery marches.
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Monet X Change
Who is the painting by, Dina?
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Bob the Drag Queen
The artist's name is Lon Davis.
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Monet X Change
How do you spell Lon?
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Bob the Drag Queen
L, O, N. Lon Davis.
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Monet X Change
John Lewis. Let's see if I can look at this painting. No, it is not. I didn't. It is. It did not pop up, but that's really exciting. I'm glad you got your painting. That sounds really cool.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna send a pic. I'm gonna send it to you. You can see right now it's pretty dope.
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Monet X Change
What.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Can you tell us what city you're in?
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Monet X Change
I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You're in Las Vegas, the City of
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Monet X Change
Sin the city of sin. I'm in Las Vegas, Nevada. Or if you live here, you call it Nevada. Everyone. Only people in Nevada call Nevada. Only people in Nevada call Nevada Nevada. Do you know what to call it? Well, I'm trying to say only people in Nevada call Nevada Nevada. And everyone outside of Nevada calls Nevada Nevada. But in Nevada.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Nevada. Yeah, I call it Nevada. I've only ever been to Reno, Nevada. I did a gig in Reno. I never played in Reno. Huh?
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Monet X Change
You never been to Vegas. Jesus, that's crazy. So I've never come to Vegas.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I just sent you the picture.
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Monet X Change
You're like. And I'm going straight to Reno.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, to Reno. The club was very nice. Reno was not a particular. Right. Reno was not a particularly nice city, but the club was very nice and the people were very nice.
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Monet X Change
Jesus Christ. Reno is listening. People from Reno listen to our podcast. You know that, right?
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Bob the Drag Queen
I'm sure they do. And they said, listen, people hate New York City. Ugh. New York is great. You know what pisses me off about people who are not from New York? The first thing they come to New York, they comment on the smell. I'm like, nigga, you don't even smell nothing. I don't smell nothing. What the fuck are you smelling? And I was gonna say, it's money. Cause you're used to it. You're from it. No, people act like New York just reeks. And it does not. And see, Bob is the type of ignorant ass nigga that would just leave the table without excusing himself. But did y' all have to excuse y' all when y' all got up from the table? I had to excuse myself when I got up from the table. I couldn't just. Just. Just leap and just. And just. And just walk away like it don't mean shit. This n. This nigga just walking.
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Monet X Change
My mother taught me that I had autonomy over my body, and I was allowed to do what I wanted with my body. So I'm sorry that you didn't have any experience.
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Bob the Drag Queen
It's not about autonomous. It's about manners.
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Monet X Change
Well, I'm gonna remind you that I have autonomy over my body. My mother taught me that as a kid. I'm sorry that your upbringing didn't involve that, where you had, like, these things you had to do.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I'm sorry. My. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There were. There were. There were. There were parameters and guide and bumper rails and things to guide me and mold me into an upstanding member of society. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. About that. That's so weird.
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Monet X Change
When does it kick in that you become upstanding? When does that kick in?
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Bob the Drag Queen
When it's been done kicked in. You know what? I'll be able to dig in the gutter to deal with your ass. Your ass be bringing me that. Bring. Bringing me back down.
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Monet X Change
Oh, that's so interesting. Cause like you, it's like one of us doing a lot of pointing and name calling and the other one isn't. So it's so interesting that I'm the one who.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Nigga, fuck you, bro.
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Monet X Change
That's so interesting. Wow.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. When I'm with you, you know, you know, what's her name? Michelle Obama said, when they get low, you go high. No, when everybody else goes low, I get high with you. I'm coming down in the gutter, I'm coming to play with you.
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Monet X Change
It's strange that you think that you're on my level when, when I feel like only one of us is really like yelling and name calling and pointing and doing those things.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Listen, there are at this point thousands of hours of footage of you screaming, yelling on this podcast. Ok? So these people listening, they're not fooled. Bob, you're not fooling anyone. There are no illusions here. We have seen who you are. We know who you are. And we will govern ourselves accordingly. And members of especially the members of the MO Nation, we especially because the bobbleheads, they're so glamoured, they're so indoctrinated into your ridiculosity. But the Monation, we see you, we know you well.
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Monet X Change
One thing I know about the members of Monation is that they can't really be trusted. They're so desperate. They're so desperate and delusioned and destitute and sad and broken down and tired. They'll essentially take anything. And I just want to say out loud, as someone who lived in New York City for 12 years, and New York City does smell bad very often. It is, it is very often that New York City will smell bad. And this is. This, this feels like a very well documented fact.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Well, here's my thing, right?
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Monet X Change
Because there are piles and piles of garbage on the street about two, sometimes three times a week, depending on where you're walking. You will always see the pile of guard, because in New York City there are no alleys. So everyone. So there, like a lot of.
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Bob the Drag Queen
That's not true. There are alleys. You can't say there are no alleys,
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Monet X Change
but there are not many. Most of the trash goes to the street. There are no. There aren't zero. There are very few alleys because the buildings are all so close together. So there's not a ton of alleys, like, alleyways. It's just like when you go to Philly, there are, like alleys between the buildings where it's not like a street, it's just an alley. But in New York City, these restaurants, they take their trash, drag it to the edge of the street, put it there, stack it high right in front of their restaurant and. And then go back inside and serve food.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I'm pretty sure it has changed. They passed some new thing that you can't do anymore. But my point is that people saying that, like, they step off the plane and they're like, oh, my God, it just smells so bad out here. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, again, every city doesn't smell great all the time. Bitch. I was just in fucking Catalina Islands and there were smells there too. But people act like New York is the only place that smells. Every city sometimes has an odor of whatever it is. It's not like New York is something unique to New York. That's my point.
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Monet X Change
Well, I think that saying that New York smells isn't saying New York is the only place that smells. If someone go, wow, the sun shines in Miami, we're not saying the sun doesn't shine anywhere else.
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Bob the Drag Queen
They don't say about nowhere else. They don't. They don't come because LA B stink. LA be stinking too.
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Monet X Change
That's not true. People say that Paris stinks. People say that LA stinks. People say that Vegas stinks. People say.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I don't hear. People say. You hear people say LA stinks often.
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Monet X Change
Yeah. Specifically in reference to the smog surrounding the city and how it always smells like kind of like toxic waste and how it always smells like gas. That's something I've heard a lot of times.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Have you smelled gas and smell smog and toxic waste here?
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Monet X Change
I have a very poor sense of smell.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I have a good sense of smell and I've never smelled that.
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Monet X Change
I say this all, well, you don't smell in New York City, so we can't trust you at all. I don't think you do have a good sense of smell. If you live in New York city for over 10 years and you're like, it doesn't smell. I've never smelled it smell bad.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, see, here we go. The Bob. I did not say. I did not say never smell.
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Monet X Change
Old factories are an old factory.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I never said that. I have never Smelled. You see, I literally never said that. I did not say that. I'm saying your whole.
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Monet X Change
This whole thing is fucked up on you.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Your whole this is fucked up.
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Monet X Change
I know I have a poor sense of smell. I made this very clear.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I'm talking about the smell, the eyes, the vision, the taste. I can see nothing wrong with my eyes. You wear glasses and. And you have color deficiency.
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Monet X Change
I wear glasses and I have. And I have color blindness. So, yeah, you got me, Monet. I have a disability. You're. You ate me. You ate me up with that one.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You ate me up.
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Monet X Change
You're. Fuck.
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Bob the Drag Queen
But I can see.
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Monet X Change
I'm not blind and I can see things.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You're blind.
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Monet X Change
I don't even need to legally wear my glasses, so I can see very well. As a matter of fact,
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Bob the Drag Queen
you look cute.
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Monet X Change
And I can see right through this. I can see through things. That's my eyes. Allowing me to see.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You see. Nope, we can't see well.
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Monet X Change
Got my hands doing good like they supposed to turn my hearts to the folks that I'm close to Got my eyes, though they don't see as far now. They see more about how things really are now. Monet, we won a GLAAD Award last year.
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Bob the Drag Queen
We did win a GLAAD Award last year. It was honestly, because I was. Where was I? Every time we win one of these awards, I'm not there for the queries. Jacob had to receive it. I wasn't there for the Webbies. We weren't. Neither of us were there for the GLAAD Award. You were there.
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Monet X Change
I was there, Yeah.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I wanna go.
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Monet X Change
When is it? Why didn't you go? Why didn't you go? What were you doing?
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Bob the Drag Queen
I was away on. I was on tour or work or something. I was remembering. Cause I remember we were all messaging, and I was like, I'm gonna be out of town on this thing.
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Monet X Change
See, you gotta be like me. I don't work that often. I just be chilling. I barely do anything. I just be staying at home most times. No, I like. I like working.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I enjoy. If I. I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't want to do it, you know?
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Monet X Change
You know, for me, I'm leaving the workforce behind.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
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Monet X Change
You said.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You said Madonna. Come on in.
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Monet X Change
I volunteer on this. This is the work. I volunteer on the Madonna.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, that's so nice of you.
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Monet X Change
Yeah. So I can leave whenever I want.
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Bob the Drag Queen
So should we. So should we volunteer all of your. All of your paychecks, too, from the tour?
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Monet X Change
There's no paychecks. I volunteer. This is volunteer work.
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Jacob
Who fills in for you when you. When you decide to take some time off?
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Monet X Change
Yeah, I haven't chosen to step away yet, but I have a few people lined up. A couple of the dancers and a couple of Drag Race girls who are, like, really good and really talented. And let's just say if you never got the call, then you're not one of the girls. The girls.
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Bob the Drag Queen
So they filled in for you, because I haven't seen this. Can you tell us what show is. What shows that you've. That they filled in for you?
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Monet X Change
I've never. That I've never called out. I've never taken my. My. I've never just stepped away. But if I want to. We have people lined up. Very trustworthy people. But, yeah, my. My worker is completely voluntary. And, you know, whenever. If I want to leave, if. Actually I could literally walk out in the middle of the show. I could walk out in the middle of the Vogue number. I could just stop, turn around, take my little hat off, walk down the stage, take off my microphone. My inner ears. Hand them to my inner ears.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Here, go hood in my inner ears.
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Monet X Change
How's it a hood to talk about inner ears?
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Bob the Drag Queen
They're in ears, not inner ear. Love adding. Added extra word, extra syllables. Yeah, I put in my inner ears.
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Monet X Change
You know, your insinuation that I am hood is not. It doesn't hold a lot of weight, Bob.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You not hood.
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Monet X Change
No.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I put it on my inner ears.
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Monet X Change
I'm not hood. I'm. I think this feels like a projection. If anything,
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Bob the Drag Queen
I would automatically know I have hood behavior. I'm not upset about that. I embrace that. Truth about me.
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Monet X Change
Yeah. That's why it's probably a projection.
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Bob the Drag Queen
That makes sense.
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Monet X Change
That makes a lot of sense, actually.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, last year, so last year, we beat last culturistas, we beat up until dawn, aka Megan McCain. Oh, that's what we had that. That when we edited that video, when y' all brought it up and Mitch edited all that mega. I have to say that was a very funny civil rivalry video. I was.
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Monet X Change
Can y' all clip. The patrons are very upset that my nipple was blurred out on Patreon. Can y' all just clip just the nipple and post it on Patreon? Because they are really up in arms about the nipple blurriage.
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Jacob
For sure. I will post some nip on Patreon.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I'll show mine, too.
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Monet X Change
Wait, so wait, Jake. Hold on. Jacob.
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Jacob
Yeah.
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Monet X Change
Bully. Oh, that's.
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Jacob
That's optional. That's optional. I'm just putting that out there.
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Monet X Change
I'm trying to read. I guess this looks different than the way they normally. They normally look. This is so interesting. I need a moment to gather myself because I'm confused. So.
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Jacob
Oh, well, let's take a break here.
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Monet X Change
Wait, just. Yeah. In fact, let's take an ad break and then I'll be able to make sense of this documentary. It's a little different than.
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Monet X Change
Okay. All right, well, we'll be back talking about the ones we're up against right after this break.
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Bob the Drag Queen
We took the break already?
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Jacob
Yeah, that was the. We did the break.
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Monet X Change
Oh, that was during the break. Okay, well, then we're back.
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Bob the Drag Queen
We are back. I have to say, it felt like
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Monet X Change
the break wasn't clear. It wasn't. I don't feel like it was like, eh, this is a break. But I mean, if the break is abrupt, it's abrupt. It's whatever.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Now, we had won the Queerity last year, but we weren't nominated this year. That really breaks my heart. I really wanted to try to win two years in a row for Queerity.
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Monet X Change
We are nominated this year.
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Bob the Drag Queen
We are.
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Jacob
We're not nominated for a Queerty.
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Bob the Drag Queen
We're not.
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Jacob
You're nominated for Badass or something like that. And the vote is already on Queerty.
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Monet X Change
I'm thinking the GLAAD Awards. Sorry.
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Jacob
Before we get to Glad Awards.
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Monet X Change
We're.
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Jacob
We're. We're doing the Queerties.
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Monet X Change
Oh, got it.
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Commercial Narrator
I.
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Monet X Change
My mind had not. My mind had not shifted over to Queerties, by the way. It's kind of like how last. Like in the last episode of Watcher Re, where we kept saying Russia. We know Yelena's from Serbia, but we just. The word Russia just kept getting stuck in my head because of Plain Jane.
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Bob the Drag Queen
She won't lose because she's fucking Russian.
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Monet X Change
But yes, we're talking about the Queerties now. But, no, we did not get nominated, but we won, which is nice.
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Bob the Drag Queen
We did. We won last year. It was very nice. I just remember that year that you, Jacob and I went, well, you, Jacob, Andy and I went. And that's the year that Mo Hart hosted. And she was just on the stage. We could cut this off the podcast. Did you. I don't remember if we talked about the thing with y' all on the podcast.
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Monet X Change
I don't know if we did, but if you want to talk about, we can talk about. Was a very odd moment for me, and it was kind of like, ooh, that seems really. We were just laughing at attention.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I just laugh, y'. All. When I'm laughing at this stuff,
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Monet X Change
it feels like you're laughing at it.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I'm laughing that Bob recounted the story because you're just so. You're just so.
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Monet X Change
This doesn't feel like an environment where I want to share this story. Okay. So I'm just gonna go ahead and move on to the other thing because it feels like you're laughing at me, and it's something I'm sensitive about. So.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
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Monet X Change
I was. Okay.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Tyler, I'm sorry. I did not mean to. I swear. I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at you retelling the story. Because I also think about the other one story you had told me that you often. Not often, you tell about. What's her name?
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Monet X Change
Who?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Detox. Detox. Yeah. I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at. When you retell these stories, always very funny.
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Monet X Change
You're particularly comfortable. But we can talk about the queerty some more. So I'm just going to. I'm just going to protect my piece.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Okay.
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Monet X Change
And not talk about this topic that I'm sensitive about.
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Bob the Drag Queen
The queer. There is a really fun event, though. It's like. It's like so many nightlife. Like, a lot of nightlife people. Not just. But it's not just LA nightlife. It's just like queer nightlife. I find it to be a fun night.
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Monet X Change
Yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely national because I know that Ocean. Ocean Kelly nominated for Queerty? Was Ocean Kelly nominated for a while and she came. She's nominated for a Wowie. I think she won the Wow.
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Jacob
I think she was also nominated for a Queerty last year as well.
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Monet X Change
But she. No, she did not make it. But Tony talks came. Who's from Atlanta, and that's where I first met Mikey. And Mikey didn't live in. Mikey didn't live in LA when he.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, where did Mikey live? In New Mexico.
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Monet X Change
In New Mexico.
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Jacob
Yeah.
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Monet X Change
I think that's an assumption.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, is this where Mikey and Jacob met for the first time?
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Monet X Change
That's where I met Mikey for the first time.
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Bob the Drag Queen
But Jacob was there too. So I'm saying, did Jacob meet him that night?
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Monet X Change
Yes, that is.
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Jacob
That is where he's at.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Got it. Wow.
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Monet X Change
Yeah. And that's.
- [20:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
This is also a fucking priority party where Bob goes up to. One of. Bob goes up to the showrunner RuPaul's Drag Race. Her name is Manny Slangston. He goes. So I'm talking. Me and Mandy are talking. Have a. Having, like a conversation about this was All Star 7 was, like, about to air or was just airing. And we're talking, just having Bob walks over like, yeah, Monet, tell Manny all that you're talking about her. All that you be talking about.
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Monet X Change
Yeah, Monet, talk that you was talking about Mandy before she was here, which
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Bob the Drag Queen
honestly now Mandy does not know Bob.
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Monet X Change
I stand by it. It was funny.
- [21:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
Bob was not in Mandy's season. They didn't work together. So Mandy is looking at me like.
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Monet X Change
She.
- [21:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
She's like, huh? And Bob is, as Bob does continue on talk that she's always on my man. And she's like.
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Monet X Change
And I was like.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, Mandy, he's. He's joking. I. He's joking. I was like, he is just. He's. This is Bob. You don't know. He's just doing a bit. He is. He. There's no shit. No one or anyone was talking.
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Monet X Change
Well, Mandy, if you're listening, let's just say not every joke's a joke. And there's a little truth to every joke. Mandy. Mandy worked on my season. She was on the last. She did. She did the finale.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, just. Just the last episode.
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Monet X Change
Yeah. I feel like she came on, like. I feel like she came on, like, for the finale or something like that. I just remember seeing her and being like, there's this new person here who's like, really High up in the production. I was like, oh, okay, hi. Because there was this thing down going on downstairs where RuPaul was on the TV out of drag, rehearsing. So they put us in the basement. So we were not, like, watching RuPaul hearse. Like, we were all, like, on stage rehearsing. And they were like, everyone has to go to the basement real quick. So we were back in the dressing room. And to be clear, the basement is a dressing room. It's not like we were, like, in, like, a cellar. We were in, like, the dressing room, and there's a monitor of the stage, and we're like, oh, RuPaul's here. I guess that RuPaul needed a stage for herself. And then Derrick, Barry, and Thorgy are filming the screen while RuPaul's on the screen. And then Thorgy posted it on Instagram, like, in her story.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I know Theron probably came out and said, like, thorgy.
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Monet X Change
Well, first Manny came down and was like, hey, guys, I just want to remind you all that the rules are the same as when you're. When we're filming the season. We need you all to not have your phones. Please just put your phones away. And if anyone posts anything on social media, please take it down. And she turned around and walked away. And then no one responded, and no one cared. And then someone else came downstairs, guns, a blazing baron. And it was like, dorogy, delete it, Derek, delete it. Hold your phone up and delete it. Let me see you delete it.
- [23:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
And I was like, honestly, work. Are you wearing Balenciaga?
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Monet X Change
This is for Bob.
- [23:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
What about the be in the glasses, Bob?
- [23:47]
Monet X Change
No, it's not real Balenciaga.
- [23:49]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I would.
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Monet X Change
I don't. I would never spend this much money on a necklace ever.
- [23:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
But, I mean, it's styling. It's borrowed. So is it.
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Monet X Change
I mean, it's not borrowed. I purchased it, and I would never spend this much money on it.
- [23:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
All of your styling clothes, you purchased most of them?
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Monet X Change
Yeah, not all, but most of them.
- [24:03]
Bob the Drag Queen
Can I borrow some?
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Monet X Change
I don't think we're the same size, so I don't think that it's.
- [24:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
That felt rude.
- [24:15]
Monet X Change
Are we the same size?
- [24:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know. I mean, Nick, I just wore your costume that's sitting in that blue bag over there.
- [24:22]
Monet X Change
Well, that's an old costume. I was a different size then. Last time you saw us, did we look like we were the same size when you saw me in San Francisco?
- [24:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't remember, to be honest.
- [24:31]
Monet X Change
Didn't you Say you couldn't wear the dress to have a hat on because it was too big for you. So do you think we're the same size?
- [24:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
But that doesn't mean I can't wear your sweater. I will wear this sweater. Still. I'm just the answer. Size not mattering. Can I borrow this little clothes or not? Don't worry about the size.
- [24:49]
Monet X Change
I'll let you borrow enough clothes. I think I need to get my pants back before I can let you borrow anything else.
- [24:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
What pants?
- [24:53]
Monet X Change
The tuxedo pants.
- [24:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
You gave me those pants and I'm not giving them back.
- [24:57]
Monet X Change
Then I'm not lending you any clothes. I'm glad we have this conversation. But you gave me the pants, you get mad.
- [25:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay?
- [25:04]
Monet X Change
And I bought the sweater also.
- [25:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
I wear those pants all the time. Your whole thing, like Monet, take a picture. There are so many pictures of me with those fucking pants on. I want to wear a sweater.
- [25:15]
Monet X Change
I love seeing them. I love that you wear those pants. Let's go into the people up against in the Queerties. I mean, the fuck. The GLAD Awards.
- [25:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
GLAD Awards. Okay, so these are the podcasts we're up against. Okay, these are the podcasts we are up against for best podcast. Oh, my God.
- [25:35]
Monet X Change
Las Culturistas is not back on the table. This is.
- [25:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, yes, they are.
- [25:40]
Jacob
They're nominated. They're nominated.
- [25:42]
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you, did you do what?
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Monet X Change
I don't see it. Oh, it's with the bottom. Wait, where is it?
- [25:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
The second page.
- [25:48]
Monet X Change
Oh, it's the last. The last. It's like the second to last one. Okay, there it is.
- [25:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, okay, these are the podcasts we're up against for the Emmy.
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Monet X Change
Well, also, just so you. Also just so you know too, when you win, when you win the Queerty for podcast, you don't get to make a special speech or anything. You don't even get to go up there and accept your award.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Really? Jacob? I thought Jacob had to go up there and say something on behalf of
- [26:08]
Monet X Change
us at the GLAD Awards. Jacob Slam. Jacob Riz.
- [26:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob Ritz for the Queerties. I think Jacob was there.
- [26:16]
Jacob
No, no, Bob was there. Bob was at the. Bob accepted it.
- [26:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it.
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Monet X Change
I accepted the Queerty, but I also accepted. I, I mean, we, I, I was there for the GLAD Awards and I. When there are certain categories that just kind of like announce like in secession in quick succession and you know, if you win podcasts, you don't go up and make a speech.
- [26:38]
Jacob
I had it.
- [26:38]
Monet X Change
I had something ready and I was like, oh. I was like, oh, If I win two, two awards and I can go there twice, it's really exciting. But alas, also somebody did the research and I am tied for top GLAD
- [26:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
award nominee apparently with something like Michael something.
- [26:51]
Monet X Change
So guys, if I win one more, I could be the most GLAAD award winning person in the history of the GLAAD Awards. So that's a great reason for a sibling rivalry to win. That alone is. I could be the fucking Beyonce of the GLAD Awards. That seems like a good reason to me. But what do I know?
- [27:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, so Translash. Translash is an award winning journalist. Award winning journalist Imara Jones host a translation podcast where trans people and allies talk back about what matters most and discuss how to create a fairer world for all. To be full disclosure, I've never listened to Translash. I'm not familiar with Imara Jones either. But I have heard people reference to translash. I've heard like Peppermint because. Also not, I mean this is not like a. Whatever, but on oftentimes on YouTube I'll just like go and like watch Peppermint interviews and then I would like watch them because I just, I'm, I just, I'm a very big fan of Peppermint and I love watching her talk and she's so funny and just also so insightful and she's. I've heard her, I've heard her say the word translash and reference it about
- [28:02]
Monet X Change
certain things before I was. I, I remember listening to it the first time last year when, when, when. Because I believe it was nominated last year too, wasn't it? And I, I feel, I feel like I met her at the, at the awards too. Or maybe I'm, maybe there's a million to me and I met her somewhere else. But I do love the, obviously the, the mission statement of this and you know, having, you know, talks, talk backs with allies and about what matters in, you know, in terms of progressing lives of, of trans people and obviously trying to create a fair world for everyone is, you know, a great journey. And I think that I especially love that a lot of trans people are so visible because of programs like RuPaul's Drag Race and Pose and Legendary Translash. Because of stuff like even stuff that doesn't seem as big, like what's the name of Julia Caliente's show that she had on out tv? Translation, I believe it's called Translation. It was kind of like, like it was low key like the View, but on out tv.
- [29:11]
Bob the Drag Queen
Julie Galliance had a show, a talk show.
- [29:13]
Monet X Change
It was kind of, like, the View, though I was on LTV in Canada. And then, of course, I. I also imagine how hard it was for a lot of people who were, like, doing this work before. It was like, Laverne Cox back on fucking I want to work for Diddy.
- [29:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
And oh, my God, Laverne Cox was on I Want to work for Diddy. Well, yes, that was in Disclosure.
- [29:38]
Monet X Change
Yeah. And also people like Leomi on
- [29:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
so you think you can dance?
- [29:45]
Monet X Change
America's best dance crew.
- [29:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
America's best dance crew.
- [29:47]
Monet X Change
Abcd abcd.
- [29:49]
Bob the Drag Queen
Abdc.
- [29:51]
Monet X Change
Abdc. And also, if you watch Discloser, there's a really interesting episode about a woman who's. All I remember is her last name is Caldwell, because I didn't watch Disney, but she was like some Disney actor. She played like the principal on Essel Raven or something. Or she played like a teacher or something. And she was like, she hadn't disclosed her trans identity to her castmates. But then she finally came. She came out after the show had been, you know, off the air for a while. And if you guys have not seen disclosure I. 10 out of 10.
- [30:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know if it's on Netflix anymore. Netflix took down a whole bunch of stuff. I don't know if it's still on there. It was on Netflix for the longest.
- [30:28]
Jacob
No.
- [30:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I think it's a Netflix original. Although sometimes Netflix, they slap Netflix Original or something. I'm like, that's not like, for a while, especially overseas, like Drag Race says Netflix Original. I'm like, but it's not. How did it get to do that?
- [30:43]
Monet X Change
Maybe because they own the rights to it in that area.
- [30:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
Maybe it's still on there. It's still on. It's really good.
- [30:51]
Monet X Change
Yeah. And it really will make you reframe the way you think about a lot of stuff that you don't even realize you do that is really problematic or that could be harmful to other people, but not in a way that makes you feel mean and nasty. It's just a way that makes you see how it affects other people. It's not about, you're mean, you're dirty, you're nasty. It's how this affects other people. And it's really a powerful documentary.
- [31:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
Even though you might be. You might be mean and dirty nasty, but the documentary is not specifically telling you that you are that.
- [31:17]
Monet X Change
Did we talk about that thing I saw on Tik Tok the other day?
- [31:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
About. About the thing that I said, send it to me. That video you sent me about?
- [31:25]
Monet X Change
Yeah, that was. That was on the phone that Was on.
- [31:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. It wasn't podcast. Yeah.
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Monet X Change
I'm just gonna play it instead of trying to fucking quote it. It's really good. And if I'm gonna send the video to you, Jacob, so we can just get it on the screen or we can just, like, put it in somehow, but it's really, honestly, full on. Game changer. How are some of y' all going around living life, not caring what people think about you?
- [31:48]
Jacob
I just realized I never actually knew
- [31:50]
Monet X Change
what you were thinking about me.
- [31:52]
Jacob
I just knew what I thought you
- [31:54]
Monet X Change
were thinking about me, which means I
- [31:56]
Jacob
created a mean, judgmental version of you
- [31:59]
Monet X Change
in my head and then used it to think mean things about myself, which
- [32:04]
Jacob
means I made you mean in my head, which means I was being judgmental
- [32:08]
Monet X Change
of you, not the other way around. Now, I just assume people are nice. I just assume that they're cool. And if they act in some way that contradicts that, if they start being a total dick for no apparent reason, I assume that they're actually angry at themselves for something that they're then projecting onto me, just like I used to do. And then I forgive them and get on with my life. Honestly, that is great. I've been. I've been showing it to anyone who. I've been showing that to anyone who will listen lately. Truly. 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10. I just put it in the group chat, Jake, because you can send it over to Jay,
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Bob the Drag Queen
go on to Rooted Recovery Stories.
- [32:54]
Jacob
An ad break. An ad break.
- [32:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, we're gonna take an ad break. Give me a break. Bob. Should we get. Should we make a sibling rivalry jingle? A commercial jingle?
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Monet X Change
We already have a theme song.
- [33:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know, so we should put some words to it. But is it. Is our theme song catchy, though? Like, Give me a break. Frosted Flags are more like. Those are catchy jingles. Like, is our theme song Is a jingle? Yes. Frosted Flakes are more than good. They're great.
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Monet X Change
I never heard of that.
- [33:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
Is it water on your knee operation?
- [33:32]
Monet X Change
Let's talk more about jingles when we get back.
- [33:40]
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Monet X Change
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- [34:10]
Jacob
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- [34:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
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- [34:18]
Jacob
So I thought it would be fun
- [34:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
if we made $15 bills, but it
- [34:23]
Jacob
turns out that's very illegal.
- [34:26]
Bob the Drag Queen
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Monet X Change
I mean, the best jingle in the history of the world is there's one that is like above every other. The jingle.
- [34:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's say it on three. Let's see if we think the same one. I know we're going to be whatever, but let's just try. One, two, three. Folger. J.G.
- [34:54]
Monet X Change
wentworth. No, it's J.G. wentworth. If you have an annuity and you need cash now, call JG Wentworth877cash. That's literally the most.
- [35:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, no, no, no, no, NO. 1-800-588-2-300 empire today.
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Monet X Change
Boom. No, it's no JG Wentworth. It's no JG Wentworth. But Folgers is great. The best part of waking up is Folgers in your colors.
- [35:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
Remember the fucking tap, the fucking river dance or the Irish dancing one.
- [35:30]
Monet X Change
Michael Flatley.
- [35:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, is the Folgers one. Where is the lady doing the, the Irish river.
- [35:38]
Monet X Change
What they do clog dancing or is
- [35:43]
Jacob
step dancing or river dancing?
- [35:45]
Monet X Change
It's what Michael Flatley does. It's the kind of dancing that Michael Flatley does. He's Irish step dancing. Michael Flatley. I don't know if Michael Flatley is Irish.
- [35:55]
Jacob
He's a Irish river dancing. River dancing?
- [35:59]
Monet X Change
Yeah. I don't know if he is Irish, but Michael Flatley is kind of like the. The Irish river dancer of the world. Like he's like the one who does it.
- [36:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
The black guy.
- [36:10]
Monet X Change
No, Michael Flatley is certainly not black. Not even a little bit. Is Michael Flatley black?
- [36:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Michael Flatley. Oh, okay, I see him.
- [36:18]
Monet X Change
Yeah.
- [36:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, okay.
- [36:21]
Monet X Change
But anyway.
- [36:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, because he's the. He's the Lord of the Dance. He was the Lord of the Dance musical.
- [36:26]
Monet X Change
Yeah. He plays the character of the Lord of the Dance in the Lord of the Dance.
- [36:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.
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Monet X Change
Okay. There was a. A group called. Before Pentatonix, there was a group called Rockapella. And Rockapella was like a famous acapella kind of doo wop sounding group. And you actually heard a lot of their work without even knowing you've heard it. And I think that they did a. They did a great version of the Folgers jingle that everyone remembers. And their most famous song is Carmen Sandiego. Well, she sneaks around the world From Kiev to Carolina She's a sticky finger filcher From Madrid down Take you for a ride on a slow boat to China Tell me where in the world is Carmen San Diego? Well, she ran Sakistan.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know that song. Like I know Carmen Sandiego. I don't know this song, though.
- [37:15]
Monet X Change
A big bucket burn well, they never arkansas her still the me come from the jungle, baby where in the world is that? If you. You don't know Carmen San Diego?
- [37:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know the cartoon. I know, but I don't know that theme song. I never watched a cartoon.
- [37:29]
Monet X Change
That theme song is not from the cartoon. It's from the show where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? It was a game show. So there was a game show that came on after Carmen Sandiego called Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? But the cartoon itself, where she would still think was called Carmen Sandiego.
- [37:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I want to say this is an actor I feel like, did not get their flaws. And y' all gonna be like, maybe they did. I just don't. I don't have a recollection of it. Cause I don't think I was, like, watching award shows and stuff when they were super active. But I feel like Jim Carrey never really got his flower. Jim Carrey is such a great actor.
- [38:01]
Monet X Change
Well, Jim Carrey had a really career based on a lot of silly movies. And then Eternal sunshine of the Spotless Mind dropped, and he. Or. Or the Truman Show.
- [38:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
Truman Show.
- [38:12]
Monet X Change
Is this supposed to be funny? I literally can't tell if I'm supposed to be laughing. But because he is so funny, there are times in movies like the Christmas Carol that he's in and a couple movies where you look at it, you're like, I genuinely can't tell if I'm supposed to be laughing. I don't know if this is funny or if this is serious, because I'm just so used to seeing Jim Carrey be so silly.
- [38:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
Right.
- [38:32]
Monet X Change
And I obviously fell in love with Jim Carrey on Living in Living Color, where he played Fire Marshal Bill.
- [38:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
That was too young for those who I was too young then. But I love. I think Jim Carrey in the Mask is such great acting. It's so good.
- [38:49]
Monet X Change
Yeah, Jim Carrey is a very. I think he's very respected in terms of acting. I don't know that he's won any Oscars.
- [38:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
I just look up this Jim Carrey.
- [38:56]
Monet X Change
Jim Carrey called, like, Mile or something that I watched season one of.
- [39:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
He has an MTV Movie Award. He has a Golden Globe. He has. Yeah, he doesn't have a. He doesn't have an Oscar and Emmy.
- [39:11]
Monet X Change
You know what? He's doing better than us. Let's go on to Rooted Recovery Stories. Rooted Recovery Stories podcast features compelling tales of triumph over the storm of life. Guests share their unique stories and adversity, resilience and personal transformation in candid conversations, offering a profound and uplifting experience so that others might find hope and encouragement. You know, I will say that they. One thing that Rooted Recovery Stories has over us is that they probably don't out people in recovery like we do on this podcast a lot. And by we, I mean there's one of us who outs people.
- [39:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. I want to be.
- [39:47]
Jacob
To clarify, it's not just about people who are struggling with drugs and alcohol. It's about people who are recovering from illness, from, like, trauma.
- [39:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Thank you, Jacob. Recovery.
- [39:56]
Jacob
A wide variety of.
- [39:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob was outing you for being misinformed.
- [40:01]
Monet X Change
Okay, first of all, I'm literally, all I did was read what Jacob wrote. I want to be very clear about that.
- [40:05]
Bob the Drag Queen
You read or you read and I read.
- [40:08]
Monet X Change
I said I read what Jacob wrote. I didn't read what Jacob wrote, you dumb bitch. I said I read what Jacob wrote. Let's talk about English next.
- [40:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
We're definitely not gonna win. We're not gonna win the GLAD award.
- [40:17]
Monet X Change
Now call me. We'll do shapes and colors. Okay? Okay.
- [40:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
So, Bob, how about.
- [40:23]
Jacob
How about.
- [40:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
How about I just don't understand the shapes and I know. Go to your little TikTok. TikTok. Maybe, maybe the shapes are hard for me. And now you're. Now, now, now, now you're ridiculing me.
- [40:34]
Monet X Change
We're still. Since we're still conjugating verbs, now you're going to ridicule me. I'm not a teacher, bitch.
- [40:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, I want to be very clear. Anytime I've said someone is sober, they have said it on national TV or they have, like, used their platform to say that they are in recovery. I have not Been like, so do y' all know. Y' all know that Ba ba ba ba ba is supposed to be sober, right? So, anyway, let's be very clear about that.
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Monet X Change
Every time on national tv.
- [41:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
Say it again.
- [41:08]
Monet X Change
Every time they say it on national tv, that.
- [41:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. Like Selena Cities.
- [41:12]
Monet X Change
I just feel like she. I feel like you said it before she was ever on Drag Race, so what national TV was she singing on before Drag Race?
- [41:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
Wait, that. That's. That I said to Selena was. Was on.
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Monet X Change
She said it on national tv, but you said it before she's on Drag Race, so I'm just kind of wondering.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Or they've. Or they. In public.
- [41:27]
Monet X Change
Oh, okay. You mean like in the street somewhere? Like at a meeting?
- [41:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah.
- [41:31]
Monet X Change
Around. Around other sober people, you're saying.
- [41:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Interesting.
- [41:35]
Monet X Change
Is that a can of gasoline behind you? What is that behind you?
- [41:37]
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyways,
- [41:40]
Monet X Change
what is that thing? Is that a suit? What is that thing over your left shoulder?
- [41:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
My left shoulder over here?
- [41:47]
Monet X Change
What is that thing? Is that a chair?
- [41:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
What color is it?
- [41:52]
Monet X Change
The thing on the floor back. I don't know what.
- [41:54]
Jacob
That's a little stool.
- [41:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
There's that entire. There's mad stuff behind me. I don't know what you can see, bitch.
- [42:00]
Monet X Change
First of all, what color is it? Wow. We just discussed it on Colorblind. This is really.
- [42:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't have any sort. I mean, I do have a. I have some friends that have nursed me back to health when I've been sick, but also, I'm not one of those people. When Bob is sick, Bob is down and out. This nigga be downtrodden.
- [42:19]
Monet X Change
That's not true.
- [42:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
This nigga got a sniffle. He thought about some Bob, literally, you were like, monet, I'm not well, Monet, I'm not well.
- [42:28]
Monet X Change
I'm not down. And first of all, if I have a head, I want to be clear with you all that I did the entirety of our first Canadian tour with two. With four dry sockets hitting the stage and not a single person ever knew.
- [42:42]
Jacob
We knew backstage and the work the world tour with the broken toe.
- [42:47]
Monet X Change
I also did all of work the world with a fucking broken toe.
- [42:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay? Not all of it.
- [42:51]
Monet X Change
That was. I was not. I was not down bad. I'm not, like, in bed, like. Like, everyone know. But, yes, backstage, I was like, I have a headache, Monet. So, yes, I did acknowledge. I did acknowledge out loud that I had a headache backstage, and I went
- [43:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
on to do my job backstage, y'.
- [43:04]
Jacob
All.
- [43:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
This nigga has a common cold.
- [43:05]
Monet X Change
He.
- [43:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
Backstage with crutches. He all limping. I'm like, nigga, you have a sniffle.
- [43:11]
Monet X Change
First of all, if anyone has ever had one dry socket, you know how hard it is having four. Let's just, let's just, let's let, let, let. Let's clear it up. Let's clear it up, honey.
- [43:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
Let's move on. We are running out of time. The next podcast.
- [43:25]
Monet X Change
No. I'm recovering from a toxic relationship with my best friend for the past 12, 13 years. That's what I'm recovering from.
- [43:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
That conversation with Tariq Ali. A podcast focusing on men didn't say anything about recovery.
- [43:39]
Monet X Change
We barely talked about it. You didn't even give me an opportunity to talk.
- [43:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, Jake are trying to be funny. He's talking about something. Do y' all have any stories about recovery, illness, injury, season 10? Now he's trying to be funny. That is pretty funny.
- [43:54]
Monet X Change
I don't gonna lie.
- [43:55]
Bob the Drag Queen
Anyway, speaking of that, I do wanna plug some dates. So we are officially sold out from our run at the Soho House in London. We are sold out for seven shows. But we do wanna plug our. Netflix is a joke show. Please, please, please go to seethedragorean.com and monetexchange.com now to get tickets to see us at Netflix is a joke coming in May. It's going to be such a, such a, such a, such a. Such an amazing show. And y' all can see the girls live in our hometown now. So go to get those tickets. Y' all sell us out.
- [44:33]
Monet X Change
Hometown?
- [44:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
So you don't live here also?
- [44:37]
Commercial Narrator
We're doing it.
- [44:38]
Jacob
We're doing a live show on south at south by Southwest. So if you're there, stop by and
- [44:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
is that announced episode?
- [44:46]
Jacob
I mean, but I think by the time this episode comes out, it will be announced.
- [44:48]
Monet X Change
And just all of you know every single. Those of you who also love seeing Jacob, whenever we do something, wherever you're live, Jacob is also there. So if you don't know what Jacob looks like or you want to. We keep Jacob behind the paywall. He's so beautiful that it'll just distract the whole. The whole process if we show his beautiful. I got a great video of Jacob singing at karaoke the other day, and it really warmed my heart. I was so happy to see that video. It made me so happy. I thank you for sending that video. Monet, you take that video.
- [45:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
I did take that video.
- [45:16]
Monet X Change
I love that video. I loved his drink. I love that drink. Were you singing Mr. Brightside? Jacob?
- [45:25]
Jacob
I needed a good song that would rouse the streets. It was a Very straight question.
- [45:28]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. Also, I was like, yeah, but that's the thing, because Jenny is so gay. It was Bob's arch nemesis, Jenny Jaffe's birthday. And. And Jenny is very gay. Her husband is very queer. So it was like, so where the end. The energy at this karaoke was so straight. I was like, who are all these straight people?
- [45:49]
Monet X Change
Is Jenny bi?
- [45:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, Jenny's not bi.
- [45:53]
Monet X Change
Oh, yeah, but she's like a hag. I get it.
- [45:57]
Jacob
She's. She's CIS and straight. But she is also a drag queen, right?
- [46:01]
Monet X Change
Yeah, she's. Yeah, she's faggot. She's kind of faggy.
- [46:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
I get Jenny's version.
- [46:04]
Monet X Change
Let's go into that conversation with Tariq Ali. So a podcast focusing on mental and physical.
- [46:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
First of all, it's my turn to read. That conversation was Tariq Ali. And it's a podcast focusing on mental and physical health, financial literacy, business, social justice, and. Oh, Tariq. Tariq covers all the bases, all the things mental health, mental and physical health, financial literacy, business, social injustice and relationships. That's a lot, Tariq work.
- [46:30]
Monet X Change
It does seem like a lot. You know, I've been re thinking about my relationships with people and how I communicate, and I really think that I've changed a lot in the past, like, maybe like six years in the way that I communicate with people and the way that I show up for people. Well, I've always. I've always actually shown up for people. Showing up has never been a problem for me. But, you know, back in the day, by the way, people really don't like when you drink from that cup on the show.
- [47:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not sure when I chew the ice. I'm just drinking my water.
- [47:03]
Monet X Change
But I used to do these things called drag queen weddings for equality in Times Square. And me and, like, three of my friends. Four of us, Me, Azraya, Frosty Flakes. And hanging in the Bronx was really me as Ray and Frosted Flake. Frosty Flakes were all like, we're gonna do this every single Saturday in Times Square from noon to 4 until we have marriage equality in New York State. And we're like, we're gonna do it. And we. We went out there and there were times where, like, one of the girls couldn't. They were like, I'm tired. It's cold. I don't wanna. But I used to, like, show up every single. I was like. I said, I'm doing this. I'm gonna.
- [47:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
How long did I do it for?
- [47:42]
Monet X Change
A little over a year. Maybe about a year. And a half until we got marriage equality. I think I may have missed one or two, but I remember I went to the most. I went to most of them and I was running the Facebook page and I used to be so indignant about it. Like, if they couldn't make. Wasn't just like, oh, you took time for yourself. It wasn't, oh, it is cold. You're right. It's really cold outside. It was, it was not nice the way that I would respond. I'd be like, well, some of us. It was very. That. Well, some of us are agree. Are doing the agreement. That kind of vibe. And you know, that's not the kind of person I want to be in my life especially it is a person who I was for sure. But I would like to be a much more understanding person. That's, that's, that's what I'm doing to, to, to salvage my notion my side of toxic toxicity in relationships. What about you? Money?
- [48:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
I can't wait to see you implement that in our relationship. Yeah, I think. I'm sorry.
- [48:41]
Monet X Change
No, thank you. Go ahead.
- [48:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
I think that since being in a long.
- [48:47]
Monet X Change
I will.
- [48:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
I will say I've grown and changed a lot with how I manage relationships with people and romantically, since I've been in a long term relationship. I think that I've learned to communicate a lot better since being in an LTR and that has. And that has matriculated into other relationships with family, friends and otherwise.
- [49:11]
Monet X Change
In terms of physical health. I joined an orange theory today.
- [49:16]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's that thing. See. Oh my God. Those. That I've been to one of those things and I don't, I don't like that the whole room is orange. Kind of like how Barry's. The whole room is red. And I get it. It's supposed to like stimulate bah and make you ba ba ba. I'm like, just give me normal lights.
- [49:32]
Monet X Change
I'm colored by. I thought it was gray, but I was. Did you really? No, I know it was orange. That's a little bit of colorblind humor. Only the colorblind girls get it. But I. It was nice. Yesterday was my first time at an orange theory and I was just working out the hotel gyms, which I honestly prefer time wise because going to a gym takes up so much time, so much of your life. If you're at the gym for an hour, the whole process is two hours.
- [50:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. It doesn't take. You take you half an hour to. It doesn't take half an hour to get to the gym from Your house in la Sometimes.
- [50:13]
Monet X Change
Sometimes, yeah, it does. Sometimes. And even if it's not a half an hour, it's at least an hour and a half. And that is, that is, I mean my gym is not seven minutes from my house.
- [50:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know what I mean? Mine is 11 minutes. So to and from is about, about 25 minutes. And I'm there for.
- [50:30]
Monet X Change
That's also, that's door to door. That doesn't involve packing your belongings, showering after the gym, finding parking. 11 minutes is literally door to door. That doesn't include anything else. Making sure you have all your.
- [50:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, that's my door to door from my. I'm talking about leaving my house, like walking in the door of the gym 11 minutes. Because my parking lot is at the gym is never that full.
- [50:52]
Monet X Change
That's what I'm saying. Door to door is 11 minutes. Stop to stop is 11 minutes.
- [50:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah,
- [50:58]
Monet X Change
yeah.
- [50:59]
Bob the Drag Queen
And for financial literacy, y', all, I'm trying, I'm trying to go financial literate. It's just so hard to understand and comprehend and it's so many things. And financial literacy, some of you don't know shapes. And financial literacy is hard because the government, like the school, school does not do a good job of making us financially literate. And there's so many things that as an adult you have to think about with like 401ks and Roth IRAs and all this shit and mutual funds and benefit. There's so many things that I try and you know, every year I say, you know, I'm gonna try to pick one facet of financial stuff to get more literate and understand better and bitch, by March. I've already, I've not kept up with it.
- [51:50]
Monet X Change
Well, I feel like finances should be a math class. Like, yeah, which one, what do we need more? Trigonometry or finances?
- [51:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
Period, period.
- [52:00]
Monet X Change
Geometry. I get, I can say out loud that you use geometry several times a day a lot. I really feel like you use geometry a lot. Arithmetic non stop. Arithmetic is a non stop thing. Algebra pretty frequently. Trigonometry, calculus, algebra 8.
- [52:22]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, it's kind of wild. It's kind of wild.
- [52:24]
Monet X Change
But I don't think that, that, that is so much need. But, but, but, but finances should be a high school level 11th grade, 12th grade math class.
- [52:36]
Bob the Drag Queen
Honestly. Because also there's so much, there's so much math that you're going to implement that you learned before into finance, into those classes. Like so it's like it really would. But again, I, who's the head of
- [52:48]
Monet X Change
the Department of Education it's still Betsy DeVos.
- [52:50]
Bob the Drag Queen
There's no girl.
- [52:51]
Monet X Change
It's still Betsy DeVos.
- [52:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I think so. Her time hasn't gone yet. No, no, no. Because she. When Trump was out. Right. It changed.
- [52:59]
Monet X Change
It is Joan Ebert.
- [53:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
Joan Ebert. Joan, if you listen to this podcast, can you implement some of these things we talk about?
- [53:07]
Monet X Change
Yeah, Joan, please, please, please. All right. And in terms of, you know, how are you? How are you accepting help? Monet?
- [53:17]
Bob the Drag Queen
Accepting help?
- [53:19]
Monet X Change
Yeah, accepting it.
- [53:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I am a very independent. I like to do a lot of
- [53:24]
Monet X Change
accept sounds like accept. They sound.
- [53:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
They sound almost like it's accept and accept you. Now you don't.
- [53:31]
Monet X Change
That's why I said except sounds like accept is what I said.
- [53:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm hearing accept and accept. Say it again.
- [53:38]
Monet X Change
You accept a gift and you accept. Expect. Wait. Oh, no, sorry.
- [53:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
You. You.
- [53:44]
Monet X Change
You accept a gift except when the gift isn't for you. You accept a gift except when the gift isn't for you.
- [53:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, no, no. You accept a gift. Accept when the gift's not.
- [53:53]
Monet X Change
Not.
- [53:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
You're saying accept. You're saying I'm ah, ah, ah, ah. Like the Italian.
- [54:00]
Monet X Change
I don't think people say, yes, I accept you. People say, yes, I accept that. People don't go, yeah, I accept you. People go, yeah, I accept you.
- [54:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, this first one is, what do people say? Hey, I accept that.
- [54:10]
Monet X Change
Say, I accept you.
- [54:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
I accept you.
- [54:13]
Monet X Change
That's what I said, I accept you. But whoever. So I'll say this. I accept you. Everyone except you.
- [54:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
I accept. I accept. I accept everyone. I accept everyone except you.
- [54:25]
Monet X Change
I accept everyone except you. Yeah, that's different.
- [54:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Very different.
- [54:30]
Monet X Change
What are you. What are you talking about? What the fuck are you talking about? Let's bitch.
- [54:41]
Jacob
Do you.
- [54:42]
Monet X Change
Do you accept help or not Bitch?
- [54:45]
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm really learning how to do that. I am. I'm a suffer and silencer and do things by myself. Like, I would rather just do things by myself and not ask for help. That is something I'm learning to be better at. But I just don't want to depend on people. I like just be. I like being. Not having to depend on anyone. Just do it by myself. Because then I can't blame. I can't be mad at someone for fucking it up.
- [55:04]
Monet X Change
What do you mean that. What do you mean I'd have to depend on anyone like you want to just do everything? Like you?
- [55:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, because then I.
- [55:10]
Monet X Change
Then.
- [55:10]
Bob the Drag Queen
Then I don't have to be mad that you didn't do the thing or you forgot to do it, and I can't Because I. Because I've done it. And also, it'd be taking too much time to ask people to do stuff for you. It takes too much time.
- [55:20]
Monet X Change
That is such a weird chair behind you. I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around this chair. It looks this big. Can you go sit in that chair, please?
- [55:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Real quick.
- [55:30]
Monet X Change
Can you go sit in that chair? It looks like a child's chair. And I get that it's far back, but in comparison to the wigs behind it. And like, I recognize that orange wig. That's the wig I gave you. Go sit in that chair, Please. Go sit in that chair.
- [55:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I can't. I don't have.
- [55:47]
Monet X Change
And also, why is the footstool in front of it bigger than the chair? The footstool is higher than the chair is. That's a footstool. That stool is bigger than the chair.
- [55:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
What is wrong with you?
- [56:00]
Monet X Change
It's a weird chair. I want you to sit in that. I need you to stand by that chair.
- [56:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't have pants on.
- [56:10]
Monet X Change
Wow. I don't.
- [56:11]
Bob the Drag Queen
Call me because y'. All. Let me tell y'.
- [56:13]
Monet X Change
All.
- [56:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Bob is a fake ass nigga. This nigga. Oh, today is the only day. The other day, like three times Bob has had. She's looking pussy from the.
- [56:23]
Monet X Change
From.
- [56:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
From the navel of this. Got up one time. Oh, let me see the whole outfit. Bob Fuller just had underwear on, y'. All.
- [56:28]
Monet X Change
He would.
- [56:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
He pulled the wool over your underwear.
- [56:31]
Monet X Change
I wear underwear every day. Isn't that crazy?
- [56:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
But there was no pants.
- [56:37]
Monet X Change
Anyway, let's go.
- [56:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
You're running out of time. We have to get through these. Bob.
- [56:42]
Monet X Change
I cannot accept. I can't accept that chair. I can't accept it. It looks like a toy. You have a child's chair in your room. You have a child. Oh, my God. I'm screaming. So let's go on to Finding Fire Island. So finding Fire island is a. Is a. Is a docu podcast series which brings to life how a sleepy 19th century beach town became a modern day queer mecca for artists and the New York City theater community. Now, Fire island is a very interesting place. I did not know that Fire island was more than just cherry. I mean, I know now. I've known for years now, but when I first got went to Fire island and heard about Fire Island, I had no clue if Fire island was more than just cherry grove and the pines there they hold. Most of Fire island is straight. Do you know this?
- [57:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Ocean. Ocean. Ocean Township. Ocean. Whatever it is. Ocean Beach.
- [57:34]
Monet X Change
It's huge. Bigger than the little gay side. I did not know that. That's crazy. But, you know, someone's like, yeah, we go to Far Island. I was like. I was like, you go to Fire island with my mom and dad. With your. You and your mom and dad go to Fire. We've always gone. I was like, what is happening? And they were like, yeah. Then I found out there was a straight side of Fire Island.
- [57:53]
Commercial Narrator
I got.
- [57:53]
Bob the Drag Queen
When you go in the pines, bitch, Fire Island's about to be extinct. The pines. Because the ocean is washing away. So you know how before you go on the beach, there's a long jetty and there's like, mad beach in the ocean over here in the pines. The water is at the dunes. It has washed away all of the sand.
- [58:13]
Monet X Change
That's wild.
- [58:14]
Bob the Drag Queen
Tim Tirico showed me pictures and I was like, cherry Grove is fine. I mean, they probably have another year or two. But the pines, the water is like, at, like, the boardwalk, like, in all the way to the thing. It's kind of crazy.
- [58:28]
Monet X Change
The polar ice caps eating the girlies up.
- [58:29]
Bob the Drag Queen
Honey, that's not funny.
- [58:32]
Monet X Change
I didn't say it was funny. You're the only one laughing, actually. You're actually the only one laughing.
- [58:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
But you know Fire Island, I am not a meat rack hookup girl. If you don't know, the meat rack is the place where it's between Cherry Grove and the pines, and it's like, you know, like the woods and stuff, and people hook up there. I have never hooked up in a meat rack. I have no desire to hook up in the meat rack. That's not my thing. Hooking up in nature does not speak to me. Like, I don't want to be kneeling on, like, sticks and fudgeing up my knees. And I'm not. I'm. No, I'm. I'm not that kind of girl.
- [59:04]
Monet X Change
I don't think I've ever even so much as kissed a person in Fire Island. I've never had a single romantic interaction ever. Literally, not once. I mean, I may have, like, looked at some naked bodies at one Daniel Ardisio's underwear parties, but I've never. Jacob, please, you mute.
- [59:22]
Jacob
I've never did a podcast at Fire Island. We did a live show and you took me. And we. We did kiss at least once on Fire Island. Me and you.
- [59:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
So you. So were you lying? Are you lying now or.
- [59:33]
Monet X Change
That didn't happen.
- [59:33]
Bob the Drag Queen
Which one is it?
- [59:35]
Monet X Change
I don't think. Jacob, what's up? Do you remember. You remember the kids to be like, did we have sex that night.
- [59:39]
Jacob
We didn't have sex. I don't. We didn't like on Fire island, but we definitely kissed at some point during that trip.
- [59:45]
Monet X Change
Do you have documentation or that. Just an assumption. Wow. Yeah.
- [59:50]
Jacob
You know, I'll see what I can do. I'll be back.
- [59:53]
Monet X Change
Well, typically speaking, Jacob and I don't kiss when I'm in drag because I'm wearing lipstick. And it'll just be. He'll just have like pink lips on his face. Because I wear the same color lipstick pretty much every time I'm in drag. That pink, that pink lipstick and dragon.
- [60:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
So long. I miss seeing you in drag.
- [60:10]
Monet X Change
When you're gonna see me drag soon.
- [60:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
On Tuesday.
- [60:15]
Monet X Change
Yeah, I'm coming back to la and I'm also doing some photo shoots. I'm shooting my looks from, from the tour. So if you want to come by and hang out at the shoot, you can see me there too.
- [60:24]
Bob the Drag Queen
What day?
- [60:25]
Monet X Change
Like three different days.
- [60:27]
Bob the Drag Queen
Got it.
- [60:30]
Monet X Change
So, you know, I, I also have some really bad memories from Fire Island. Like, my Fire island memories are not always great. Like, I, I had a. I did a really bad show with Tina Burner on Fire island years ago, and she was a mess and just not fun to work with. God bless her. I like her now maintain her friends, but at the time, she was not fun for me to work with. I. I was working with Brandon Voss, who I did not like working with at the time. Me and Brandon was cool. Now we don't work together anymore, but we're. We're cool now. There. I'm really saying names today. Used to be this little guy named Joey. You remember Little Joey?
- [61:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
I remember Little Joey. Me and Joey.
- [61:09]
Monet X Change
Where is he at these days? I don't know. Little Joey used to be one of the promoters on Fire Island. He and I used to get into it a lot. It was, it was just Fire island was. It was not a great. And then, and then I had this one night, one time where I won second place to Holly Day at the Atmosphere Island Entertainment of the Year, where she did waka waka barefoot with an afro on. This blonde drag queen did waka waka barefoot with the air fro wearing kente cloth. And the, the, the guy who was like. Who like, ran the fire. Who ran the Ice Files was like, you were the best. You should have won. He was like, and I'm gonna offer you a job at the Ice Palace. You're gonna work at the Ice Palace. You're gonna be my star. And then he quit the next year. He Was like, next year you're gonna be here. The ice pals. You're gonna have like, the. The spot. And then he just fucking fully quit and was like, girl, I ain't giving you no motherfucking shot. I quit the business. I retired, bitch. Psych.
- [62:08]
Jacob
Ho.
- [62:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
I had some fond memories at Fire Island. I worked a few summers out on Fire Island. Two summers. Tina Burner, Holly Box Marines. And I did a show called Girl Esque. And then before that, I used to come and do on Wednesdays, I used to do that blonde waka waka, barefoot dancing drag queen. I was at her show every couple of weeks. I cannot believe it used to be
- [62:31]
Monet X Change
one of her fucking. She was your page turner.
- [62:35]
Bob the Drag Queen
I was, I was, I was. I was a Holly's dolly.
- [62:37]
Monet X Change
Girl, this is in a world where you could align yourself with the likes of me.
- [62:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, well, Holly was offering. Hollywood was giving me gigs. You were not giving me gigs like that.
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Monet X Change
Give you gigs?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Not, not before Holly, you. Let me tell you something. Bob was not offering me. Holly was. I was coming to her.
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Monet X Change
I didn't have gigs to offer at that time. Okay, I had a gigs offer. I offered you one. Okay, but, but you didn't.
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Bob the Drag Queen
But, but Holly, Hollywood had the, had the, had the bandwidth to give me a reoccurring gig every, every other Wednesday. And I was like, oh, I was using you.
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Monet X Change
Because she didn't.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God.
- [63:17]
Monet X Change
Once I was hosting an award show and she was the. She does not like me and I don't like her and she knows I don't like her. So it was a real interesting scenario
- [63:30]
Bob the Drag Queen
when she won that award on stage
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Monet X Change
and I was hosting it and I
- [63:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
was hosting the show. Let's go on to Gay and Afraid with Erica Sedenio. I've seen, I've seen this person, like on social media. He has a very popular tick tock, right? And. And reels. I'm pretty sure.
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Jacob
Yes. Yeah, he.
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Monet X Change
Yeah, he's really pretty.
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Bob the Drag Queen
He's beautiful. Beautiful.
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Monet X Change
And he has those candles outside, but those candles that like feed people. He has a bike.
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Bob the Drag Queen
He has a candle dick.
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Monet X Change
He owns a candle. I don't know if he still owns it, but he was running his candle business where if you, like, buy a candle, then that will feed someone.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, work. That's beautiful.
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Monet X Change
What's up with Eric Sedena's Let me look into business? This podcast is like ours. It centers around.
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Bob the Drag Queen
It's my turn to read then, bitch read. This podcast is like ours, guys. It's centered around him and his Jacob. You Think it's just about our personalities. Wow. While he talks with guests about everything from pop culture to mental health, he's talked about before his most memorable Halloween stories. I'm not a Halloween person. I don't celebrate Halloween. I've never been trick or treating. Not even once. I have never.
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Monet X Change
Really?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Never.
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Monet X Change
That's a little sad.
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Bob the Drag Queen
It's not sad.
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Monet X Change
I'm not.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I don't feel like I missed out on anything and nothing about trick or treating. That's like, I want to do this thing. Nothing.
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Jacob
I feel like New York kids don't go trick or treating because there's nowhere
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Monet X Change
to go in Atlanta, when I lived in St. Lucia, do y'. All.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I lived in that. I lived in Atlanta with a. With. With. With a mother that could not take care of me, that was lying and stealing money from my grandmother and not buying me the things that she's supposed to. What about that? I was getting tricked, all right. I was getting drink, but not treated.
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Monet X Change
Wow.
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Bob the Drag Queen
We really went there.
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Monet X Change
I just feel like, even, like, the dressing up. Do you ever. You dress up for Halloween as an
- [65:20]
Bob the Drag Queen
adult for a blood. For Bloodbath.
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Monet X Change
But Bloodbath was the first time you ever dressed up for Halloween.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. Not even high school.
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Monet X Change
And you were in your, like, late 20s then. That's crazy.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Monet X Change
That's wild.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Did you go trick or treating as a kid?
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Monet X Change
Yeah, of course I did.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Did your mom who. Who made your costumes?
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Monet X Change
My mom made a few. My mom bought some one time, but sometimes they're cheap. It was just like my. My godfather was in the military, so I just wore his fatigues, and I was like, I'm a soldier. Or one time, my mom, she. She dressed me up like a. A mommy. Like a soccer mommy. So I was a mommy, but then I was a mom. I had this blonde wig on, and I was wearing these.
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Jacob
These.
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Monet X Change
These, like, pink and black tiger striped nails, and I had on my. The mummy makeup on my face, and I was wearing, like, a dress, and everyone thought I was a girl. I was like, oh, my gosh, she looks so great. And I was like,
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Bob the Drag Queen
purr.
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Monet X Change
It was very giving.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. So that's kind of.
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Monet X Change
Wait. Does he love Selena Gomez?
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Jacob
Wait, Monet. Now that you have a house, you're going to get trick or treaters.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, no, I. I would absolutely. I would absolutely encourage trick or treaters. And I want to be the house that gives the big candy. I want.
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Monet X Change
Like, are you gonna give a big scare, though?
- [66:41]
Bob the Drag Queen
Big. Get a big what Scare?
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Monet X Change
You gonna scare them?
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Bob the Drag Queen
No, that's Andy That's Andy.
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Monet X Change
Oh, you wouldn't. You know. You know, you wouldn't want to scare kids.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Like how, like, how do you scare them?
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Monet X Change
Like, like, like, like you sit in a rocking chair on the porch, but you act like you're a mannequin. And then they grab the candy. You. You jump up.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I ain't sitting out there for them kids that whole night. Don't let Andy do that.
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Monet X Change
Or you hide in a bush or you open the door or even if you open the door really fast will scare them, right?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Jacob
What kind of candy are you giving out?
- [67:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
I want. We're giving out the big Butterfingers. The big Snickers. Not free Musketeers are such a nasty candy bar. Also our Almond Joys. Ew. But yeah, they're nice ones. Big Kit Kats.
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Monet X Change
Two Reese's together. Not those little foil ones, but the two. I'm giving the two.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, for sure.
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Monet X Change
And just so you all know, if you come to my house, you are getting an apple, you are getting peppermints, you are gonna get those little black and orange things. Yeah, Orange. This is nasty candy. We're gonna give out toothbrushes.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Monet X Change
Where the house giving out toothbrushes.
- [67:43]
Bob the Drag Queen
Dental floss, bitch. And they will egg your shit. And they should really be nervous about. No, y' all go to Doc. To Bob's house.
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Monet X Change
Fucking.
- [67:52]
Bob the Drag Queen
That damn Doberman is going to fucking
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Monet X Change
chase you down the fucking hallway.
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Jacob
We're going to be giving out Bob the Drag Queen Christmas T shirts.
- [68:00]
Monet X Change
What Doberman? Why would I have a Doberman?
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Bob the Drag Queen
What's the name? Miss Lady.
- [68:03]
Monet X Change
Oh, her name is Lady.
- [68:06]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
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Monet X Change
Have you ever had tricks, Jacob? I'm not home for Halloween.
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Jacob
Sorry. What?
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Monet X Change
Have we ever had trick or treaters at home?
- [68:15]
Jacob
No, but we don't. I guess we just have. I think we had some kids moved to the apartment like this year, but they're, I think, too young for that. Also, like, no one wants to go trick or treating.
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Monet X Change
Our apartment building. Yeah. We live in a building. So people don't. We don't have. There's not enough units to, like, go around a building. It's not like a massive New York City building. It's like. I think it's like 12 units in our whole building work.
- [68:34]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, flex.
- [68:36]
Monet X Change
Is it a flex?
- [68:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like, it's. It's so. It's so.
- [68:41]
Monet X Change
Did you look up Eric's candles? You understand?
- [68:48]
Jacob
Yeah, sorry. I did get a little distracted, but let's. Yeah, they're called groove.
- [68:55]
Monet X Change
You know, Groove. That's what it is.
- [68:57]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, you Know Jacob and Andy, a little video game buddies now.
- [69:02]
Monet X Change
What game are they playing?
- [69:03]
Jacob
We're playing Helldivers 2.
- [69:06]
Monet X Change
Okay. Is that a bulldagger? Hell divers, not bulldaggers. I'm screaming.
- [69:11]
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like, that seems inappropriate.
- [69:14]
Jacob
You're. You're defending. Your team defends Earth from an alien onslaught of, like, bugs and robots. And your group's progress completing missions helps, like, the overall, like, universe of the game, that everybody's working together to, like, clear the galaxy and defend Earth against the bugs.
- [69:33]
Monet X Change
And the robots have teamed up?
- [69:35]
Jacob
No, they're actually on different sides. So the bugs are all coming in from the east end of the galaxy, and the robots are all coming in from the west out of the galaxy. They both have their own. Own agendas, but Earth is in the middle. And we're trying to hold both the forces of evil back and fight for the bugs.
- [69:50]
Monet X Change
And are all bugs evil or just these specific bugs?
- [69:53]
Jacob
Just. I mean, these are the only bugs in the game, so I don't know more about the lore than that.
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Monet X Change
Okay, that's fair. Monet, do you have any thoughts about. You know, there's a big conversation about twinks online and who's a twink, And I feel like either what a twink is broadening and people don't like that, and there are people who are trying to conserve what a twink is.
- [70:15]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, I've said this before. I don't think. I don't think. I don't think black folk fall into twinks. Like, I see in my mind, twinks are like skinny white folk. Skinny, like young, skinny, frail white boys or young, skinny, frail Asian boys and young, skinny, frail Latinx boys. But I don't really see a young, skinny, frail black boy. I don't see them as a twink. Do you see that?
- [70:38]
Monet X Change
I've seen some young, skinny black boys who call themselves twinks, and I see it for them. Yeah. I don't know that for me, twinkness is necessarily aligned to whiteness.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Not just whiteness, just not black.
- [70:50]
Monet X Change
So you think that Asians can be twinks and you think mentally we can be twinks? You think just black people don't have the ability to be twinks?
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Bob the Drag Queen
I've never met a black, skinny, frail person that calls themselves a twink. Like, I don't. Maybe I have encountered this person, but I have never, ever heard. But I've heard everyone else refers to themselves as a twink, if that makes sense.
- [71:07]
Monet X Change
Well, I've seen a few black people call themselves twinks over the years, and I Also think that excluding black people from something that everyone else gets to have access to is problematic. And it seems like literally everyone in the world can be a twink except black people. And the only thing that's excluding us is just our blackness. Asians, Middle Eastern people, everyone could be a twink except Africans. And that seems problematic to me.
- [71:31]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I mean I just, I have never been identified.
- [71:36]
Monet X Change
But I'm talking about how, but I'm talking about how you view them as. Well, because there, there have been people who you see as twinks who didn't tell you they were twinks. You just saw them as twins. Right?
- [71:44]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like meaning what? Like, like you saw someone, you're like there's a twink.
- [71:47]
Monet X Change
Even though they didn't look at you and say I am a twink. You looked at like a, like a, like a 5 foot 8 skinny hairless white guy who had blonde hair.
- [71:54]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
- [71:55]
Monet X Change
You thought that is a twink.
- [71:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
Because they identified to like that, that type of person before.
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Monet X Change
What I'm saying is even if they don't tell you they're a twink, you're.
- [72:04]
Bob the Drag Queen
Because the group has like I've seen, I've heard if that specific person hasn't. But a lot of people who look like that have. And I just have never seen a black person identify that way.
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Monet X Change
Have you seen a lot of Middle Eastern people identify as twinks? No.
- [72:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
So maybe I guess I wouldn't classify Middle Eastern folk as twink either. I don't feel like.
- [72:23]
Monet X Change
What about Asian? What about Asian people?
- [72:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
Do you identify the Asians? I've absolutely seen a lot of skinny fro Asian guys identify. A sense of sub identifying twinks.
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Monet X Change
Maybe it's like indigenous Americans identify as twinks.
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Bob the Drag Queen
No. So I guess I wouldn't count them either.
- [72:37]
Monet X Change
Interesting.
- [72:39]
Bob the Drag Queen
But I have seen black folk identify as bears, as wolves, as. What else? What are the categories? I don't even know. Those are the only ones I really think of.
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Jacob
Otters.
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Monet X Change
Otters. Otters. There's hunks, there's jocks, there's daddies, hunks
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Bob the Drag Queen
and jocks, those are like the same thing. I don't understand the difference between hunks and jocks. They're muscular 40 guys.
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Monet X Change
I think a jock is, could be a little more trim than a hunk. Because a hunk can be trim. Yeah, like, like cut. Like you have more definition but you're still big. Whereas you can be a hunk and not be particularly cut. Like let's say you're not as big as a bear, but you're just kind of like a big hunky guy. You can be a hunk without being ripped or without being trimmed.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I disagree. I feel like hunk, you have to be trim.
- [73:27]
Monet X Change
Oh, that's interesting. What is, what does hunky mean when you think it's one that's a big hunky man? What does that mean to you?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Hunk means like you're, like, you're bigger in stature and you're like trim jock. I think you can be smaller and really ripped. I think hunk is big and ripped. Jock is just, you're just, you're smaller, ripped. Like you're like, like, like, like someone like A.C. slater is a jock, but someone like Henry Cavill or that dude, the Reacher, that is a hunk. They're big and ripped.
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Monet X Change
Interesting.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Like Michael B. Jordan would be a jock.
- [74:03]
Monet X Change
Interesting. Let's go on to Las Culta Reese's with Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers. Mm. So, you know, Bowie Yang's had a really big year. He's gonna be in the new Wicked movie. They made up a character just for him. Well, I think that a new character was written and he played the role. I don't know if the character technically,
- [74:25]
Jacob
because Wicked's based on the book. He's playing a character from the book Wicked that was not included in the musical Wicked.
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Monet X Change
That's what I was like, I was thinking about. So I don't know if the character's written for him, but he's in, he is a character that, he is a character that is not in the musical. And that's exciting. Have you seen the clip of Tina Fey in their show where she says authenticity is a luxury?
- [74:46]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah. I, I, I need to see Jacob.
- [74:52]
Jacob
I was wondering if you've seen it.
- [74:55]
Monet X Change
Is it something that's pertinent that I should look at? Is it, is it, is it very
- [74:58]
Bob the Drag Queen
important for the podcast?
- [75:00]
Monet X Change
Is it quick? Should I look at it?
- [75:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, yeah, that's like a, probably like a 42nd version of it somewhere.
- [75:06]
Jacob
I will try to pull it up right now.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Weird. Type it on Tik Tok. I'm sure it'll pop up.
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Jacob
So do you, first of all, do you know about IO Ediri and Jennifer Lopez on the Saturday Night Live?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yes, I do. So, Juicy Caldwell, have you heard about this?
- [75:19]
Monet X Change
No.
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Jacob
So there's an actress who, she's a bear.
- [75:23]
Bob the Drag Queen
Did you watch the bear? She, she's, she's.
- [75:25]
Monet X Change
No, I didn't watch the bear.
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Jacob
She, she's a comedian. She has a podcast and on her podcast, like two years ago, she was like, jennifer Lopez is a scam artist. She can't sing. She's tricking everybody. Like, I don't know why this woman is so famous. Her career, like, you know, as a
- [75:40]
Bob the Drag Queen
comedian does on a podcast, just shading, shading, shading out.
- [75:43]
Monet X Change
Jennifer Lopez, her career blows up.
- [75:45]
Jacob
She gets on this multi Emmy award winning TV show called the Bear. She's a huge comedian. She's in all these movies.
- [75:51]
Bob the Drag Queen
She's an Emmy award winning actress and a very.
- [75:54]
Jacob
She gets cast on Saturday Live when Jennifer Lopez is the musical guest. This was like last month.
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Monet X Change
Oh, no, I know that. I know this woman.
- [76:02]
Jacob
And because. And she got cast on SNL with Jennifer Lopez as a guest star and people suddenly start bringing out all of these comments of her talking shit about Jennifer Lopez on her podcast two years ago. So that's the intro to this.
- [76:17]
Monet X Change
Intro to what?
- [76:18]
Bob the Drag Queen
The video you're about to watch.
- [76:20]
Jacob
The Tina Fey on Les Colteristas.
- [76:22]
Monet X Change
Got it.
- [76:23]
Jacob
Which I'm going to find for you.
- [76:25]
Monet X Change
What I'm looking at, what I'm looking at online right now is a video of her next to Jennifer Lopez.
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Bob the Drag Queen
No, you're looking up. You're looking up. Last close. Teresa.
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Monet X Change
I know, but I'm saying when, when. Look, when looking at what you're talking about, there's a clip of this woman AOS apologizing, I think. But what is she. Is she apologizing for saying something wrong or saying something mean?
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Jacob
For saying what she said about Jennifer Lopez being a scam artist.
- [76:52]
Monet X Change
I understand. I understand what she. The words.
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Bob the Drag Queen
It's not wrong, just mean.
- [76:56]
Commercial Narrator
Mean.
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Monet X Change
Got it. Yeah. Do you remember Oprah?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Did you look up the Tina F. Video?
- [77:02]
Monet X Change
No, Jacob said, I'm trying to find it. Sorry, it's not looking that up. You call Jacob a. Because he. Because he can find.
- [77:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
Jacob is a.
- [77:09]
Jacob
Editors. We can, we can. I just sent it to you on Tik Tok. I just sent it to you on Tik Tok.
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Monet X Change
But yeah, I think. I don't know if y' all remember this or not, but a while back, Oprah used to make people apologize to her on her show a lot. And she did it with the guy who wrote A Million Little Pieces. She did it with Ayanla Van Zetta over a two part episode. And she even did it with Kim Wayans. Here we go.
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Commercial Narrator
I regret to inform you that you are too famous now, Sarah.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I know what's gonna happen.
- [77:41]
Commercial Narrator
You have a problem with Saltburn Quiet luxury, keep it to yourself. Because. Because what are you gonna do when Emerald Fennell calls you about her next project, where you play Carey Mulligan's co worker in the bridal section of Harrods. And then Act 3 takes a sexually violent turn, and you have to pretend to be surprised by that turn. You hang out with Ariana and SpongeBob. Now that is your life. Okay? And Matt Rogers, I can tell you, you got about one year left, and then you. Yes, learn from my mistakes. Learn from. From IO. Podcasts are forever. Authenticity is dangerous and expensive. I don't think so, honey.
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Monet X Change
You know, I want to say that I have found myself in several scenarios where I have come face to face with a person that I had said something about, and I was like, well, here I am looking at them in real life. Whoopsie Daisy. And she's right. You can be authentic, but, girl, you're allowed to share your opinions about people. But one day you might run into those people, and now what you gonna do?
- [78:47]
Bob the Drag Queen
And they may be the one in charge of hiring you or making you get a gig, which I think is what she's alluding to in mistakes she's made.
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Monet X Change
Yeah, I mean, but also, if you don't want to hire me because I said you weren't good in Saltburn, then because I haven't seen Saltburn, that's your prerogative. But also, I'm allowed to say you weren't good in Saltburn.
- [79:07]
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, you. Oh, you absolutely can say. And you. If you want to, you should. But, you know, like, it could impact and cost you a bag, you know, But I mean.
- [79:18]
Monet X Change
Yeah, it could. But I mean, like, what would you rather have? Your. Your authenticity or a couple grand?
- [79:25]
Bob the Drag Queen
That's. Or maybe it might be a couple mil. Who knows?
- [79:28]
Monet X Change
I'm asking you, which one do you rather have? Your authenticity or a couple million dollars?
- [79:32]
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I think it's a case by case basis. I have to see where I'm at, what I need at that time. Do what? Do I want my authenticity or do
- [79:38]
Monet X Change
I want, like, who's an artist that you. That I know for a fact you don't really care much for, like, like, not. You don't care for her. But you're like, cash is not a diva. You like, Cash is not no diva. But now cash is like, cash is like, in charge of something that. That you. That is important to you. Cash is.
- [79:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
I want to say, I like Kesha. I said that she wasn't a div.
- [80:00]
Monet X Change
Again, I. I didn't say you. Don't say you.
- [80:02]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, you started out. You started. Who is the Honest. That you don't give a. About. That's how you started.
- [80:07]
Monet X Change
I said, I don't give a fuck about it.
- [80:08]
Bob the Drag Queen
I know. Don't be a little. I'm being a little hyper. Hyperbolic.
- [80:10]
Monet X Change
And then I said, well, maybe not necessarily. Don't.
- [80:12]
Bob the Drag Queen
Like very clear.
- [80:16]
Monet X Change
Then I immediately amended. But I guess you stopped listening before that.
- [80:19]
Bob the Drag Queen
I just wanted to be very clear.
- [80:24]
Monet X Change
If other folks listen like you, then maybe they skip that part too. But anyway, like I was saying down the line, when Kesha is in charge of hiring you for something that is really, really important to you. And then the conversation comes up again. Is Kesha a diva? What are you gonna say?
- [80:38]
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, at this point, I've already put it out in the universe, and I always make it very clear what I said. I think I like Kesha's music. I think Ketcha's great. But I still stand on what I said about she's not a diva.
- [80:48]
Monet X Change
You'll double down. Kesha's right there holding the check. You'll double down. You say that now. You say that now.
- [80:56]
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, you say that now.
- [80:59]
Monet X Change
You're not perfect right now.
- [81:00]
Bob the Drag Queen
You okay?
- [81:01]
Commercial Narrator
We're not.
- [81:01]
Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, listen, Nikki Haley, the drag queen. We don't flip flop over here, okay? We don't flip flop like you.
- [81:09]
Monet X Change
Interesting.
- [81:09]
Bob the Drag Queen
Mr. Flip Flopper.
- [81:11]
Monet X Change
Let's go on to Queen of Hearts with Jujubee.
- [81:13]
Bob the Drag Queen
Jujubee has a podcast.
- [81:15]
Monet X Change
Yes. She has a dating show where she brings people on to find love. Like, love. Every episode she interviews each other. They interview each other by, like, dating. You know, showing their profiles where they do an improv where one is a contestant on the show. Everyone knows this, Monet. Everyone knows this.
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Bob the Drag Queen
This. Just reading Jaco's copy. Anyway, Jujubee bring me on her show.
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Monet X Change
You trying to find love?
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Bob the Drag Queen
What? Jujubee sister love. Are you polyamorous now, emotionally?
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Monet X Change
So you can date someone as long you don't have sex with them.
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Bob the Drag Queen
That's so interesting.
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Monet X Change
Yeah. Wow. I don't know you and Andy had reached this point in your career and your relationship.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Career?
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Monet X Change
Yeah. In the career of your relationship.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Would you go on jujubee's podcast and find another lover?
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Monet X Change
You know, my dance card is really full these days, and damn, I have two boyfriends and, like, a. A person that I, like, have this other, like, complicated relationship with right now. And I think that. And then I have family stuff and. And then I have a tour coming up and. And I'm on a tour right now. I think my dance card is completely full.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Okay, so can we But I would
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Monet X Change
go in there and talk about my past relationships and maybe even current ones in a way that seems respectful to my partners.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Would you ever talk about. Would you ever talk about past fail relationships publicly? Or are you like, ones that broke? I would never talk about them again.
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Monet X Change
I think it's a case by case basis and I don't know that I want to talk about. I mean, I. I acknowledge that I have an ex, but I don't really say much about our relationship, though, unless it's kind. I don't really say anything about him. That's not nice work. And obviously we were not compatible at some point, but I don't have anything publicly to say about Ezra that is less than kind. He's very creative, he's very smart, he's very talented. And maybe that'll change down the line. Maybe one day I'll become bitter and mad and angry and want to publicly trash him. But today, no, I wouldn't. Would you?
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Bob the Drag Queen
I think my last relationship, I never, like, said anything like. Like, I wasn't talking shit, but I definitely express, like, feelings I had of discontent, like, in real time when they were happening and post breakup, but never like, this is a. Oh, my God, it's one of my bruises from paintball. This person is, like, bad. And no, I'm not the type of person, but. Bitch. There's a celebrity that recently broke up with their partner. And, I mean, it is so mean, like, publicly.
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Monet X Change
Then who is it? If they're being public to say their name?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Amanda Seals.
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Monet X Change
Oh, she's being wild about it, girl. I'm like, damn. I mean, I will say my ex did write a song about me, so we. We do not share the same moral standing on that. On that particular topic.
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Bob the Drag Queen
And last but not least, trying to vie for the GLAAD Award against the rhymer is the Queer Book Saved My Life. It's an LGBTQ LGBTQ guest share the queer books that saved their lives with authors who wrote them. Have you read any gay books, Bob, recently, that impacted you?
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Monet X Change
I haven't read any books recently at all. But I think the last book I read that had a queer angle to it was probably the Good Lord Bird, and it was, like, probably three years ago. I don't think I've read a full book in, like, three years. And obviously the gay book that changed my life is obviously the queer book that changed my life is obviously the Color Purple. I don't even know this is. I think everyone knows my love for the Color Purple, and it is just one of the most brilliant queer stories, stories in general ever to be told. It is just a beautiful book cover to cover. It's all written in the form of letters. And you're also going through the journey of literacy with Celie. With Celie. Causelie can't read and write. And then by the end, she's a Pulitzer Prize winning novelist, basically. So, I mean, obviously she's a fictional character, but you all should check out. If you've not read the Color Purple, it's work. If you've seen the movies and heard the quotes and all that stuff and seen the stage play, you have not experienced anything until you've read the Color Purple. Truly a profound book.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I'm reading Chain Gang All Stars right now. I'm really early into it, and there are definitely some great undertones. And I don't know where it's gonna go if it gets gayer, but definitely some queer undertones in her. And it's a pretty good read so far.
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Monet X Change
There's a gay character in Wicked.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I don't read the Wicked.
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Monet X Change
No, no, no, no, no. There's a gay character in the Ugly Stepsisters.
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Jacob
There's also there. There's. There are gay characters in Wicked. There's a gay couple.
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Monet X Change
Oh, there are, Yeah. I read. I read Jerry Maguire, Gregory Maguire, Gregory Maguire's Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister, which, by the way, is honestly a better book than Wicked, is low key. And I remember being, like, getting to this one part about this some gay guy or gay person or lesbian. I don't know who the fuck it was. I kept going back and reading over and over again. I was like, I want this. I need this. This gay part to pop off. And Confession of Unseps is a really good book. I'm shocked that that one has become a movie or a musical or anything yet.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Daughter, the father. What is that, Lindsay Lohan? These are confessions.
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Monet X Change
Does that have anything to do with what I was saying? Oh, Confessions.
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Commercial Narrator
Okay.
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Monet X Change
I was like, what is happening?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah. All right, y'. All.
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Monet X Change
So do you think we'll win against these people again?
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Jacob
Wait, there's a little bit more if we scroll down.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Oh.
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Monet X Change
So, Monet, why should we win another GLAAD Award?
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Bob the Drag Queen
I think we should win another GLAAD Award because we are really out here doing gay queer work. We are two black queer people. Talk. Talking about our life, our love, our experiences, others. We have lots of queer people on
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Monet X Change
our podcast, but how does it separate us from others? There's other black queer people in here too, who have queer people.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Can I. Can I finish without being interrupted?
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Monet X Change
Probably not, but I'll let you try.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You want to interrupt me? Let me finish my thing and ask anything I'm going to be saying.
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Monet X Change
Well, say your thing.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You are insane.
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Monet X Change
So what are you saying? Do you want to say it?
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Bob the Drag Queen
And I think we do. So what we do well that a lot of these other podcasts don't do is that we are able to inject our comedy, our wit, our love for each other, and our dynamic is infectious. And the sibling rivalry dynamic is just something that none of these other podcasts have.
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Monet X Change
They do not have. You know, there's comedy and wit and
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Bob the Drag Queen
las costaries not like we do not like. We do not like. You know what? Las Costa Rica's does not have a gay black perspective in it. You know what? Maybe it does. Maybe Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang are black, and I don't know, neither unbeknownst to the world. But that is just a specific lens that Bob and I have to offer in this category for black for best podcast. And I think that you may look high, you may look low, but you will never find another sibling rivalry in this category for best podcast. Why do you think we should win?
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Monet X Change
You know, I think that our perspective is not terribly uncommon. And there are podcasts like ours out there, like the read, like Los Culturistas. There's podcasts like, you know, Eric, I can't remember.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I don't remember how to pronounce his
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Monet X Change
name because his name is not that on TikTok. But, you know, I think what we. What we do have. Because I don't want to win because, like, because we black. But what I do want to say is this. If you do win and you are black, it probably means that you are more than exceptional. And I will say that. And I think that you and I have also been able to cultivate a community within our podcast that is truly unrivaled. You know, me and Monet have a really successful Patreon, and the people who listen to our podcast, especially the ones who support our finance our podcast financially over on our Patreon, thank you all so much. All the sisters, all the cousins, all the siblings, all the aunts, all the stepdads, all the stepmoms, when we go out and to do our shows live, the community that we've been able to cultivate is so remarkable that it truly does really, really feel like family. And if some of you all don't know what it's like, you should honestly come over there. Our discord is really Popping. We take our podcast community very, very, very seriously. And we are also pumping out two, sometimes three episodes a week, including episodes that stay behind a paywall as well. So I do think that we're also. And quality episodes at that, mind you. And also our ability to engage with the RuPaul's Drag Race fandom.
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Jacob
The
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Monet X Change
fandom regarding different types of music, like 1A's love for hall music or town. What's it called? House.
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Jacob
Hall. Hall.
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Monet X Change
What's the kind of music you love? Hall. Dance hall. Don't you love dance hall music?
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Bob the Drag Queen
No, I like reggae, not dancehall.
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Monet X Change
So you don't like dancehall?
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Bob the Drag Queen
I do not like dancehall.
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Monet X Change
But do you act like you know what the podcast.
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Bob the Drag Queen
You gotta love dancing. You said Monet's love for dance. I like dancehall music. I don't love dancehall music.
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Monet X Change
Interesting, because I feel like you said you love it before, but I guess we're just redacting things. Redact a statement. But also our love for other things and has been able to bleed into this and we are able to build community off of that. So I think our community building and our passion for what we do is truly unparalleled, even. Even in difficult work environments.
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Bob the Drag Queen
There you have it, y'. All. So glad this and glad even if we don't win. I'm just grateful that we were nominated and we're in the category because we are in very good company and that means a lot that you guys even nominated us to win another award. So hopefully.
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Monet X Change
And I just want to give a big shout out to Peppermint, who's a member at large of the executive community and also on a podcast with me as well. You know, Alana Mayo, Andrea Kalisp, Justin Blake, Juan Carlos Cruz, Samantha Lux, Frankie Grande. Do what? Yeah, I'm reading them. You think I have them all memorized? Is it weird that I'm reading names? We've been reading. We've been reading this entire podcast. We've been reading a lot of copies.
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Bob the Drag Queen
I'm not reading anything.
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Monet X Change
Yeah, because. Yeah, because those who can, do. Let's put it that way.
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Jacob
Close your eyes and name some board members.
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Monet X Change
Yeah, close the main board.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Okay. Peppermint Meghan McCain.
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Monet X Change
Meghan McCain's not a board member.
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Bob the Drag Queen
She was. I didn't.
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Monet X Change
We.
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Bob the Drag Queen
We did not say current. We just said name board member. We did not. We did. We did not say current. So keep going.
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Monet X Change
Close your eyes and keep. And keep lying. Continue to lie. Close your eyes and lie more. What do you mean, close your eyes and lie more? Continue. I already. I named one. I've already named six. And stop trying to read them and memorize them. You're slick as concrete, bitch. You're rubber on rubber. You're not slick. And the longer I talk, you're already forgetting the names that you read. First of all, how would I even
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Bob the Drag Queen
find a list of anything? I didn't even type anything.
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Monet X Change
And I happen to know that one of the names you're going to say is kb. Initials K and B. That's going to be one of the names you say, isn't it?
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Bob the Drag Queen
It's not.
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Monet X Change
Okay, keep going. Go ahead, name a few.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Samantha Harnett.
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Monet X Change
Monet. You're really bad at lie. You're the worst lie I've ever read in my life. So anyway, like I was saying, I want to shout out a couple of people on the board. Colleen Taylor, Lisa Lee, David Harnick and Damien Hooper Campbell. I couldn't name everyone. There's a lot of people here, obviously. But I just want you to know that I. The other day, Richard Clark. I did see that outfit you were wearing. It was so cute. You look so great in it. Those colors complimented you so well. And you know Shameik Bowes? No one turns a party like Shamik Bowes. There isn't a person on this planet who. Who does it quite like Shameik Bose. And don't even get me started on Zeke Smith.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Lisa Lee Monae.
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Monet X Change
We're leaving. Goodbye, everyone.
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Bob the Drag Queen
Good. Tiffany Warren. Goodbye. The other day, Tiffany, she went when she was going to that event.
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Monet X Change
She turned it.
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Bob the Drag Queen
She was so funny.
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Monet X Change
She was so funny.
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Bob the Drag Queen
And what's her name?
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Monet X Change
No one knows how funny. People don't know how funny Tiffany is.
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Bob the Drag Queen
They really don't. What's her name? The one.
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Jacob
Tiffany has great glasses. Great glasses. Tiffany.
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Bob the Drag Queen
And the one with a really nice outfit. What's his name? Maeve. Maeve Duvalli.
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Monet X Change
You know Maeve, of course. Do I know Mae Duvalle? Why would I not know?
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Bob the Drag Queen
Do I?
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Monet X Change
Do I fucking know May Duvalle? Yes. Maeve, first of all, Maeve be up in these streets, turning to the party, just having so much fun. Always. Like a real cut up. A real cut up. Maeve is a real.
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Bob the Drag Queen
And she never forgets a name or a face. She's always like Monet. I'm like, oh, my God, I love Maeve.
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Monet X Change
So shout out to all the board members, thank you all so much for. For voting for us last year and maybe we'll see you again this year.
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Bob the Drag Queen
And I'm coming this year. What's the date?
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Monet X Change
Immediate immediately cancel. What's the day of the Glad Awards.
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Bob the Drag Queen
All right.
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Monet X Change
Bye, everyone.
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Bob the Drag Queen
By.