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My name is Bob the Drag Queen.
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And I'm Monet X Change, and this is simply rivalry.
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On this week's episode, we invite Alaska Thunderfuck to the podcast.
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We talk about some of our biggest fights.
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And we find out what made Alaska say this.
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Why did you pee yourself? It's so far beyond me. And we find out what made Bob say this.
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Now comes the time when I show you my penis, y'.
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All.
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What a treat. I am sitting here with the legend, the icon, the. The Pennsylvania diva, the Hollywood legend, the Drag Race hall of Famer. She is the alien. One of the first aliens. Now, everyone, an alien Miss Alaska Thunder.
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Hi.
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How does it feel with all these aliens? Now?
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Irene, the alien Miss Fame was an alien.
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She was an alien from this world. Yeah.
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Who else? Blue Rose.
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Juno Burch.
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Juno Burch.
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Juno Burch is an alien. Are you. Are you the mother? Are you the mothership?
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I don't know.
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You never want to be. You never want. You used to be like, you're so. You're such a modest queen these days.
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So modest.
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It used to be like, honey, if you're not wearing. You know, when I realized you took the modest turn one time, I heard you say, if you're not wearing nails, that's your business.
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That is your fingers. It's your choice. Yes, I stand by that.
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But I don't care, because you couldn't keep doing the nails thing. It's a lot to. It's a lot to put on yourself.
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No, I have to still wear nails.
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Oh, you're. You're still doing it.
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I have to. After writing that preposterous song, I have no choice.
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I mean, your makeup is terrible. You had a lot of songs that were like, I am talking about what the standard of drag should be. And have you glued yourself to that standard by all these years?
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I never did. My. My songs are way cuntier than I am, I believe.
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I don't know. I think you're pretty, Alaska. Like, you're. I mean, you are definitely one of my favorite drag queens. Like, I actually think that Alaska is a drag queen's drag queen.
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Yeah. Like, truly, I like drag. I love drag.
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You're here for the. You know, I've learned a lot about being a Drag Race girl from you, actually.
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Okay.
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I learned that at the meet and greet. If a drag queen comes, you stand up. You always stand up for the drag queen.
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Yeah.
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I think that's such a fierce rule.
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And sit down the rest of the time.
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Are you pleased?
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Do you do this? Do you sit down at the meet and greet?
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No. Sometimes at dragcon, which I've not done in years.
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Yeah.
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So at dragcon, I sit down and I. And I remember from Alaska, I was like, but if a drag queen comes, you stand up for the drag queens.
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Absolutely.
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And you also taught me that it's okay to go out of drag sometimes.
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Like, wow.
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But you did the DragCon out of drag that one time in that nice suit.
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Yeah.
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You look so nice.
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Well, RuPaul does that.
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Well, if you imagine if you saw RuPaul in drag at DragCon, we would never.
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I've never seen RuPaul in drag.
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Wouldn't it be terrifying? If you saw RuPaul, you'd be like.
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Ah, I wouldn't think it was her. It'd be like that cheap RuPaul impersonator. You will never be her.
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I wouldn't even know what to do. I mean, only last time I saw RuPaul in drag was on Drag Race at. At my. No. At the season nine finale, and she's.
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Like, glowing behind a desk.
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Well, some of the girls away. Some of the girls do her movies and her TV and her TV shows.
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That's true.
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So they got a. Up close and. Up close and personal.
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Yeah, they get to see the whole thing.
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Did you watch AJ and the Queen? Oh, my God. Not an AJ the Queen jacket. So those. Those girls were, like, doing, like, video. Like, they were doing scene work with. With. With. With. With Mother.
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Yeah.
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Which must have been really interesting.
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Yeah. Get her the teleprompter and let's go.
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So me in Alaska, I. I feel like I. I don't remember when I first. I do remember when I first met you. I just lied.
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Oh, God.
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Cause you and I have a little bit of pre Drag Race history. A little bit. You may not remember me, but I remember you.
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Please, please remind me. I don't remember anything.
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So when you were a house of haunt, you were living in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and you would come down. You would come down and dish.
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Well, we can't say we don't talk about Bruno Voldemort.
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No. Everyone know today. Sharon, you used to date a shiver, a bird fell from the sky, the oceans rose, thunder struck the building. When you were dating Sharon, y' all would come down to the Ritz and do as Raya and Thor's show Saliva Tuesday's. And the first time I ever saw you, you were wearing this. You weren't wearing any padding. You were wearing this black gown. This, like, black gown with, like, high, high hip.
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I know the dress.
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And you were wearing one of those early Alaska wigs. The. The rat. It tattered wigs. And you. This one, you were doing the really harsh, harsh makeup. Long, long nails. And you were doing a super, like, RuPaul mega mix. It was like, yeah, grunge rock. Every RuPaul song to this, like, hardcore rock and roll song.
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Yeah.
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And then during Supermodel, you. You're going, you better work. Work at girl. Do your thing. And then he goes, and now comes the time when I show you my penis. And then you take the. You take the middle part of the dress and you lift it up. And you weren't wearing any underwear. And you. And you flashed us. Does that sound familiar?
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It sounds familiar, but I don't remember doing. I don't remember that. I remember that.
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I'll never forget it.
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I did that mix. Yeah, well.
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Cause we were all gagged. Ego. Now comes the part. Wouldn't I show you my. And it was a long dress. And you grabbed. It was like a train in the front and a train in the back. And you just grabbed it and you flipped it over your shoulder. It wasn't long. It wasn't a long viewing. My dick was. The viewing was along. I don't really remember. I don't really remember what your penis looked like.
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It's just so shocking.
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It happened so fast. And then you put in. Everyone was going crazy.
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That was my act for a short period of time. But once you've done that a few times, it is no longer shocking. Yeah, it's just insane. I mean, it's insane to begin with, but it was shocking for a minute.
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Very shocking.
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And so I would do that periodically because, you know, I mean, why not?
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You and Sharon both had really, really, like, shocking things you would do. And Sharon's thing was she. I remember this. She did two numbers that night. You both did two numbers that night. Sharon's first number was so bizarre. It kind of left everyone really angry, actually.
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What was.
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She did paparazzi. She had these, like, this dress with, like, feathers on the sleeves.
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Okay.
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I think it was red or it might have been black. And she does pop. She comes out, you know, boom. And then right before the first lyric, we are the crowd, the mix slowed down to about maybe either half or a fourth of the speed.
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Yeah.
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So a three minute song becomes a 12 minute song. And she does a 12 minute, super slow rendition. We are the crowd. We're coming out. And you keep waiting for the song to speed back up, but it never did, and she did. And we sat there and people cheered at first. At first of all, I was like, whoa. But then it just became, oh, she's. It's not gonna speed up.
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Yeah.
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And then we watched her do a 12 minute rendition of that. And then her second number, I remember, was that she did money. The best things in life are free but you could give that to the birds and bees. I want money. And then the crowd would be incentivized to give her a lot of money. And she would take everyone's money, and she had a lot, like a fistful of money. Then she goes up to the DJ booth at the Ritz, if you recall, and then she reaches behind the DJ booth and she pulls up a blender. Yeah. And then she put all the money in the blender that. It must have been, like, maybe like at least 100 bucks. Then she poured in some vodka, and I think maybe some Baileys. I don't think she was terribly discerning with what she poured in there.
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Bailey's, maybe.
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I remember it being kind of milky. Yeah. And then she poured it all in. Then she blended up all the money, and everyone was like, screaming because they were like, whoa. You're blending the money we just gave you. And then she chugged it.
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Yeah.
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And then she chugged the. Then she drank about 100 bucks.
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Yeah.
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Right there on stage. Yeah, y' all were wild.
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Yeah, Drag was wild at one point.
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Like, how. How much have you evolved since your House of Haunt days? When y' all would come down to this was before either of y' all was on Drag Race, by the way, even Sharon hadn't been on.
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Yeah.
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This must have been, like, around season two or three. Ish.
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She was blending money before Drag Race.
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Needed it.
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We really needed it.
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She never stopped. She's blending a new way now. The money's still being wasted. Let's just say it's in a different way. You know what I'm saying? But it was. It was really wild to see y' all come down to New York City with Cherry Bomb and Veruca. Yeah, Veruca. And although what's her name wasn't with y', all, but she kind of just had the same vibe. Shalita, baby.
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Shalita. Okay.
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And the one who did the crazy, like, clown makeup right in the center of her face, she was a New York City girl, though. She was like a real drag terrorist, I would call her.
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Okay.
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Like, she would. She would interrupt people's numbers. That was her thing.
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Oh, she would get.
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She'd wait till you're performing, and then at the big moment, she would jump up on stage and do something to ruin your performance.
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That was her act.
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That was her performance.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Who was this Demand A. Darling? Demand Darling. That was her name. And do you remember Jordan Fox or Jordan? I do, yeah. Really? Really? Yeah. Really pretty stunning. Her and I got into a big argument one day. We did this Cole Hahn activation, and I was like, I think it's really annoying that Amanda Darling does this. And Jordan was like, I think it's fierce. And I was like, it's not fierce. It's really irritating. Like, get your own act. Your act can't just be ruining everyone's act. She was like, it's fierce.
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Okay.
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And I was like, maybe we're not of the same ilk.
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It used to be, you know, about, like, shocking and about, you know, getting attention and getting a reaction. That's like. That was the name of the game. And I feel like as we get older, it's more like I just want to. I want to be, like, good at drag.
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Yeah.
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I want to be, like, good at the craft of drag and care about it more.
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You're. I feel like you're a. You're kind of. Not kind of. I would. I would call you especially. Your early drag is quite punk rock. Would you agree that?
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Yeah. And that was the sort that was what attracted me to drag is. Was. It was like, anti the glossy shit you were seeing on tv, which never spoke to me and never cared about me. And so I was like, this is an art form that's, like, for us and by us and. And it has no rules and no limits.
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But you were still quite stunning. You're quite statuesque. What are you, like, six to six?
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Three six one? Just like my mother.
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Your mom's six one. Gang. Gang. Glamazonian household ladies. You and your mom and Malia Obama really six one work. I'll never let people forget that Malia Obama's six foot one.
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I love tall women.
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But can we talk about one other crazy performance that you did back in the day?
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Sure, why not?
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So you did.
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Oh, this one? Yes, this One. Yeah.
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I think probably your most shocking performance that you did probably post being on Drag Race, was your. I will always love you.
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Sure.
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Can you describe it to the people and, like, the. The thought process behind the number?
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Well, there is no thought process behind this number. I was just like, I want to get peed on on stage. Because it was for Tranny Shack, which was like, this was what they were about, Right. It was being shocking, being gross, being crazy. Like, that was the sort of core of. Of that movement of drag.
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Yeah.
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And so this was Tranny Shack la. And so I was like, I want to make a really big splash. So what's the venue?
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What's the venue? Do you remember?
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I think that might have been Dragonfly. No. Echoplex maybe. Or Dragon. And so I was like, I want to get peed on. So I got my two friends and.
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They were like, your friends can't piss on you. They're not friends. Right. If your friends can't piss on you in front of about a thousand people, are they really your friends?
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And so I was just having them drink a lot of beer backstage.
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Beer?
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Yeah.
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Why not water?
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Well, beer sort of activates that, like, you know, when you're drinking and you break the seal and you, like, have to keep peeing. Peeing, Like. Like alcohol does make you pee more and it dehydrates you, but.
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Okay, continue.
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I'm listening, so. And it just makes it taste better? No, I don't think it. I don't think it tastes about the same, right? It tastes about the same. And so they came. I came out and I was doing, like, a kind of serious rendition of I will Always love you by Whitney Houston. And I was in a yellow plastic dress. And then at a certain point, they come out and roll a tarp down so you know something's going to happen. And then.
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Very kind of you, by the way.
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Well, I'm. I come from the theater. Clean up after yourselves.
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Everybody, everywhere. Clean up, clean up.
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Don't leave a mess for the next.
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Girl I. I gotta hear because. Sorry, I interrupted your story. Go ahead.
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So then they stood on, like, I don't know, apple boxes or something, or crates or something. And then just at the climax of the song, it was like a fountain, so, boom.
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And.
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Yes. Yeah.
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And are you taking in your mouth or is it in your wig?
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I love that. That's the international sound of peeing. Even though it doesn't really make it.
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I can't do the sound.
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It doesn't make it noise.
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No. When it hits the water I think we're.
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Yeah, it's the.
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Of it hitting the toilet or I think what we. When we think of piss, we're thinking of when the piss hits its landing place.
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Oh, when the piss hits, baby.
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When the piss hits my p. My pisses kick. My pisses hit.
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It just hit.
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It just hits.
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Yes and yes. It was in my. Yes, it was in my hair and my mouth. But I was wearing plastic. There was a tarp.
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Who made that dress?
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Well, I did.
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Oh, you made the dress yourself.
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It was just a yellow plastic tablecloth. This was a big belted with like tape.
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When you think Alaska, I feel like people think several things. And tell me if you feel like this, this is all intentional or if any of this was accidental. Trash bags. Horse mask.
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Sure.
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Nails. Blonde hair.
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Yeah.
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Crowns. Because you won't in podcasting. Did I miss anything in there?
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Okay.
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No, that's all good stuff. So good, so good, so good.
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You were doing, oh, I did like a poop color.
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So you.
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I think it was actually wrong. It was the wrong color.
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Oh, did you end up accidentally doing something really vanilla? It was like handshakes. I'm really into handshakes.
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It was. It was like wrong. I wanted to do like scat color but it was like the lighter shade of brown.
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Why is everyone shaking my hand today? I'm really into handshakes. Oh, this bitch is kinky. She's getting off right now because you, you. I don't know. You're. Feel free to answer this question or not. You make a lot of illusions to things you're into. You make a lot of illusions. You make a lot of illusions to fisting. A lot of illusions to piss play. Is this. Is this the real Alaska or Is this. Or is this a bit.
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Well, I'm. I have an interest in these things. Like, I'm. I'm interested in fisting as, like, an art form, but I've never, like, done it. I can barely get a finger.
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And you said, so tight. Taking that fist. Yeah.
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Yes. Because it rhymes. I respect people who can just, like. Like, people who are, like, amazing bottoms like that. I have so much respect for that because it's like. Because it's not a talent that I really possess, and I wish I did. I wish I could just get fucked all the time.
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You gotta practice.
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No, it's genetic and internal. Like, it's. It doesn't.
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There's gotta be a part of it that's just, like, gotta put in the work. You know what I mean? You said a dick for breakfast and a cock for lunch. This is making it sound like you are always. You were.
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This is, like, not really piss, though. I mean, there was a time where, like, I was like, this is fierce.
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Drink, dick. Like Sierra Mist.
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Exactly. Piss is a great thing that, like, I think people should get into.
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It's a principal resource on the planet.
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It is.
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Yeah. All of us are got. Between us all in this room right now, we got at least a gallon, period, of the gold.
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And I was really into it because I was like, this is great. Because it's like. It's like, come. Except you're, like, not done after. Like, you're not like, oh, okay, I'm gonna go get a sandwich. Yeah.
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When you come, you change as a person.
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Yes.
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Like, you. It's like Dr. Jekyll Misahadi. When you're horny and you haven't come yet, you're like. And the moment you come, you're like, I think I may have overreacted. My God, I think I may have overreacted. I am so sorry. I was out of control.
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And so I was really, like. I had a phase where I was like, this is fierce. And that was around when I did that number. I mean, it's not really a thing anymore. I'm quite like. I'm quite standard.
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When you were single on the road, did you disappoint a lot of people who were expecting you to be the piss bottom queen of the universe? And you were like, you jerk off on the couch. I'm gonna, you know, watch the Wiggles and jerk off too, where people are like. Because I will say this, I. On Drag Race, I said, bob stood for big old bottom. And I disappointed a lot of times.
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I know that's False advertising.
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I did. I said it. You know, you said it. Cause it rhymes. I just said. I said. Cause it was funny. I was like, oh, this will be. This is a funny thing I've said for a long time. It's not actually true, but it's really funny to say. And then when you say big old bottom, what you end up getting at the meet and greet. For those of you who are coming up on season of Drag Race, be careful what you say, because it will become a big part of what you're going to get at these meet and greets. So these guys with these gigantic, I mean, massive penises would be like, that's what you want. And I'm like, baby, I really appreciate you showing me that. And it's beautiful craftsmanship. I do not have a gallery for that to hang in. I cannot accommodate, and I'm not interested. But I want to thank you so much for feeling comfortable enough and be vulnerable enough to share that with me.
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Thank you for being woman enough to come.
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No, literally, I just didn't have. I didn't have it in me. So just be careful what you say on Drag Race.
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You really didn't have it in you.
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I. And I wouldn't under any circumstances. You've done a lot of the tours.
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Yes. Like, when that was a first. First happening.
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Were you there for the famous. The famous. Not Work the World. What's the one before Work the World that PG used to do?
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Battle of the Seasons.
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Battle of the Seasons, the infamous video where the girls are all going in a circle and then one of them falls, I think Jinx falls, and then a door lands. Were you there for that?
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I was there for all of that.
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Can you bring this up?
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So I was there for all of them.
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They're doing Battle the Seasons and one girl, it's like. It's like. It's like it was a pile up and then the girls. It's one of those videos where, like, when you watch it, when you watch it, I think I'm on stage every time there's someone different to look at.
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So maybe I'm not on stage that day.
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So we're. Oh, you. Oh, wait, are you them? No, there's Katya. Oh, no, it's Katya, Violet, Violet, Sharon, Pandora. Adore. Jinx. Pandora. This is what.
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I wasn't there. I was on every single Battle of the Seasons.
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But it's one of those videos. Every time you watch it, there's always something new you can. Oh, Courtney. My God. When Courtney was living in the States, there's always something new to watch every single time because it's just a big pile up, train wreck.
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Sorry, but they're hitting the choreography.
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Do you miss? Do you miss these days of the Drag Race? There it is. So what happens is first who?
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Jinx.
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Jinx. Obviously. Jinx falls.
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Jinx falls, rips Courtney's dress off.
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What is happening? Wait, Jacob Flay.
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This is why they don't do this anymore.
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So Jinx dressed like the Little Orphan Annie, she trips over her feet, grabs Kourtney's skirt, rips it off. Adora runs over to her. Violence. She is gagging. Pandora and Sharon have no clue what's happening. Katie is barely holding it together. This, I feel like this is the jinx that we as touring drag queens know.
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Yes, we do.
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And everyone else knows, like the Broadway diva. But if you tour with the girls, that's. That's who Jinx mon. Jinx. That's who Jinx Monsoon is.
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Yes.
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And you wasn't there.
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I'm so disappointed. You know, that's why it fell apart.
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Because I wasn't there. They didn't have you on stage and they learned their fucking lesson.
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Yes.
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I mean, you did. You done the Christmas tours, you've done the Christmas albums, You've really done everything there is to do as a Drag Race girl. You. You've won the show, you've lost the show, you've done the tours, you've done the roast, you've done it all.
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Yeah, well, I never got to do Drag you because it got canceled right when I had a chance to do it.
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That is true.
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So I didn't get to do that. I don't think I've done Work the World, which I would love to. I haven't done the Vegas show, which I would love to. Have you done the Vegas show?
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No, I've done. I've done Work the World, but I've not done the Vegas show.
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I would love to do the Vegas show.
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Oh, you'd be great in the Vegas show.
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It looks so fucking fun.
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And it also looks kind of like cozy. Like you get to. Y' all don't know. We are used to packing our bags, getting on the bus or pre bus. It was the planes. Like you would take a plane everywhere.
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Yeah.
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I went to go see a Murray and Peter show recently.
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Yeah.
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They have two buses. There's a truck that follows behind them. I was like, do y' all know what it was like? Murray and Petering back in the. Back in my day. Cause we did Murray and Peter together.
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Which.
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What was that?
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We did several. Alaska, the Rose. We did the roast together.
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Okay.
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And I believe we did a Christmas tour together as well. No, that was pegx. Brandon Voss.
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Okay.
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When we did that Christmas tour. But you and I, we did the Haters Roast again, which I think might have been one of my favorite gigs that I've actually done. And in drag.
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You peed, mama. You peed, mama.
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So. So for those of you don't know, on the Haters Roast, which is like, basically any episode you see of a roast or the roast you see on Comedy Central, except instead of focus on one person, everyone's roasting everyone.
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Yeah.
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And we were touring. This might have been 2012. 20. 2013. Ish. Okay, maybe. Does that sound right?
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I don't know.
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I can't remember either.
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I don't know.
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28. No. 2012. I was on Drag Race 2016. So it might have been 2018. 2018. Yeah.
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Okay.
B
So I. I was. I used to. I had the last set in the show. At the very last set in the show, we were in Atlanta, Georgia, and I had to pee really bad. Don't get excited, Alaska. I had to pee really badly, and I got on stage, and I could not hold it anymore, so I just let it go. I just pissed myself during my set. And I was thinking to myself, no one's gonna know because it's in my gown. Which, for the most part, no one did know. And then. Do you even remember when I turned around and looked at you and said that?
A
I remember vividly.
B
Yeah. So I finished my set, by the way, I think once I relieved myself, funniest I'd ever been. Like. I mean, I was coming up with new shame. Oh. I was like, piss is the key. I was ripping home when the piss is. I was so great. And then I turned around and I looked at Alaska and I said, girl, I peed. To which Alaska responded, you peed? Yes, girl, you peed.
A
You did.
B
I said, no, bitch. And I pointed down, and you saw the trail of piss flowing from underneath my beautiful gown.
A
Yeah.
B
What are you thinking at that moment?
A
I just. I. I was like, why did you do that? Why did you pee yourself? It's so far beyond me.
B
You, like, get beyond you. Like, that's rich.
A
Like, get. Like. Just go get out of.
B
In the middle of my set.
A
Tell them to hold the fucking phone.
B
It was the end of the show. I mean, you know, the padding and the corset and the gown, they'd have to be nails. They have to wait because you guys, you can't. When you go to pee, you have to take off these two. Yeah, you have to take off these two. You cannot. You can't reach into your underwear and pull your dick out with the. With the long claws, specifically on these two fingers.
A
Yeah.
B
And you certainly cannot push it back down.
A
No, you will.
B
You will shred your dick.
A
Yeah.
B
So I was like, I gotta. I thought it was the more professional thing to just power through my set while pissing myself.
A
It was professional.
B
And. And for the most part, the girls were actually quite forgiving. For the most part, the girl. A lot of girls huddled around the piss in front of it to hide it from the fans. Ginger Minj, did you say it on the mic? I did not say.
A
You like.
B
No, I hit it. I hit it from the audience. I told you and Latrice. I told Latrice. I told you first, and then I told Latrice. Because y' all were sitting, like, right next to each other, I believe, or at least on opposite sides. You're on the front row. And I was panicking. I turned around and I tried to stay. My thought process. I'll just stay here until the curtains closed. But it was in front of the curtain, so there was. There was no. There was no hiding.
A
You didn't put a tarp down.
B
I'm obviously not from the theater. Obviously not from the theater. And I was thinking to myself, I'll just stay here until the show's in and then I'll run out. But then Ginger kept being like, girl, sit down, girl. Have it come on. Show's over. And I was kind of being like, no, girl, I have to stay here. But she could be like, bob, sit down. Have a seat, girl. Why are you standing? And then I just ran off stage, pulling the piss with me. A trail of piss all the way back to the bathroom.
A
And now the world will never know which is good. No one will ever hear about this.
B
I mean, I've talked about it. The producers posted a video of my piss trail on their social media.
A
Oh, see that?
B
No, I hated that. I was livid.
A
That's not. It's your story to tell.
B
They fought because, in their defense, it was kind of hilarious because my dress dragged through, and there was a literal piss trail. I mean, all the way up to the bathroom door. And then the worst part was I had to take my dress and travel with it for another week. So I. So I. I put it. I wrapped it in a trash bag, and then I wrapped that trash bag in a trash bag. Yeah, you took your drug and then I packaged it all up so that nothing could get out and I gave it its own suitcase and then I got back and in fact, I'll tell you what I did when I got back after this break. I'm currently sipping on the brand new limited edition Shirley Temple flavor from Olipop. Now we all remember the Shirley Temple as the original mocktail. It was the drink that made not drinking actually feel fun when we were kids. When Olipop has reimagined it for us, it's brighter, it's bolder, and it's made with real ingredients that you can actually feel good about.
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All.
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B
Before we, before we move on from our touring days, we have to, we have to, we have to talk about it.
A
Bus fight.
B
The bus fight. So have you been in a lot of fights on the road? Cause I will be honest, I have.
A
There's so many holes in my memory.
B
Why? What was happening? Because maybe the, the fun and the drink. The drinks.
A
Yeah, especially at that time.
B
Oh, yeah, I remember.
A
And I also have drag related amnesia.
B
Which is probably a defense mechanism. It's your body protecting you from what you've done and what other people.
A
Sure. Yeah. And we're just so always in motion that it really just expunges. So, like, I would like to think that I was kind of like a peacemaker on the road, but I know that that wasn't always true.
B
In full transparency, I have had fights with. I had a fight with you. I had a fight with Manila. Not Manila, with Latrice and Acid Betty. There was a joint fight I had with them. I had a fight with Jinx Monsoon. I had a fight with Violet Chachki. The smallest one was probably me. And Latrice and Acebetti. I just didn't like them cutting my jokes down during, like, because, you know, during the haters roast. Everyone knows the jokes.
A
Yes.
B
And then they would do things and one show was big to like, because.
A
To undercut it before that.
B
Yes. Which I was like, that's. Come on, guys. That's not that's not cool. Like, don't do that. Like, I get that I'm making fun of you, but that's literally why we're here, for me to make fun of you. Like, it's not like I showed up at your gig and took the mic and started roasting you out of nowhere. Listen, bitch. Yeah, literally.
A
Oh, like that one. Queen Demanda.
B
Exactly. I wasn't pulling a Demanda, darling. But that was actually a pretty small beef. They probably don't even remember that. But famously, one time. You don't want me to talk about.
A
No, go ahead.
B
So if I recall correctly, what happened was one day.
A
I hate lateness.
B
Alaska doesn't like lateness.
A
I do not like it. Especially on a group tour setting like that. Because there's so many times when everyone is down, the call time is 7am Everyone is there. Everyone has gotten their ass up early, got their things loaded in the car, ready to go, and one person, inevitably this is, holds up the whole thing and you've got 12 people sitting there waiting for one person who couldn't get it together.
B
That happens all the time.
A
And it's so unfair and it's so unprofessional, it drives me insane.
B
Now, all of that being said, this is what actually happened. The bus call was 6am okay. We had to be in this little shuttle bus to take us to the airport.
A
Yeah.
B
So I got downstairs at.
A
Well, don't give away the ending yet.
B
Yeah. Okay.
A
This is what happened for me.
B
Okay, let's hear.
A
Yeah, Bob was. This person was not there at the call time. It seemed as though everyone else was there. And so I was pissed.
B
Oh, you were. You were not having it.
A
And so finally, the last, you know, people get in the bus and we're finally going. And Bob is one of the last people to get in the bus. So. Yes. So I assumed that Bob was the one who was late. And I was pissed. And I don't remember what I said or if I said. If I said something.
B
I remember exactly what you said.
A
And then why don't you tell what really happened?
B
So what happened was the call time was 6am I was downstairs at maybe like 5:50, but I was behind. I was behind the bus. So I was like just back there like talking to the people who were like loading the bus. People who work on the tour, just like chit chatting and like, you know, shooting the shit while waiting for people to come down. So Alaska can't see that I'm behind the bus. And Alaska walks straight onto the bus and then at 6:04, I decided to go ahead and get on the bus. It might have been a little chilly. And y', all, Alaska was. When I tell you, like, I don't know if you've become a morning person, but Alaska looks like that meme of that one, like, he brings. It's like a fox. It's like this grumpy looking fox sitting in a chair. Show the picture, Jake. Grumpy fox in a chair. Or like tired fox in a chair. No, type in fox in chair, meme. This. This is what Alaska looks like. Laska's sitting on the, like, sitting on the bus, like this sad fox. And she's just tired. I mean, she's tired. And then I get up at 6:04 and Alaska goes. The call time was six, Bob. And I said, is 6:04. And then Alaska said, well, I wish I had four extra minutes to do whatever the fuck you were doing upstairs. That is her exact words. Well, I Wish I had 4 extra minutes to do whatever the fuck you were doing upstairs. Meanwhile, there are still like three people who haven't even come yet. And I remember being like. And I. So we started going back and forth. I don't remember the details, but we were going back and forth. And like, yeah, we were yelling at each other in the morning, y'. All. But then it kind of. It kind of squashed out the next fucking day. Yo, I wish I was exaggerating. Literally, the next day, Alaska is 15 minutes late to the bus. And it was after. After hours. So Alaska was still drunk. I mean, wasted, like, coming to the bus, just like a mess. And I was sitting there and I was like. I was like. The way I'm about to gather, I remember thinking I was seething. I was like, I'm about to gather. When Alaska gets here, I'm going to read her her last rights because I'm murdering this bitch. And then I go, oh, Miss Alaska. I wish I had 15 extra. And before I get it out, you had passed out and you were asleep on the bus. And I was like, I couldn't even read this bitch. This is so. This is so annoying. I was like, I get to read, honey. And you were like. And then you had just passed out and you fall asleep on the. On the ride to the airport.
A
That is such precious revenge.
B
I never got to. I mean, you bested me on both. On both parts.
A
No, I. There was nothing good about my behavior. No, that's horrible. That's super.
B
The most part, though, I have some of my favorite dressing room Memories are with you. I mean, I remember you and Jinx singing every song from the Simpsons. See My Vest.
A
Oh, yeah. See My Vest.
B
Yep.
A
We put the spring in Springfield, Alaska.
B
Does a great rendition of See My Vest. You. You. I mean, I don't know why you've never done it on. On stage. I really should, you know, like, every single word. I mean, it was. I just remember just like, just being tickled watching you and Jinx. You and Jinx have a really beautiful friendship. It's actually really, really fun to watch. A lot of ups and downs in you and Jinx's friendship. Well, mostly downs. Well. Well, the. The one. The one video. What? Jeez. Won Drag Race.
A
Oh, but that was a. Yes. No, that had nothing to do with our friendship.
B
Oh, that was just the. The disappointment of that was just. Yeah.
A
My own psychosis.
B
But. But mostly, I mean, you two are pro. Being able because, I mean, you and Jinx have a relationship that is completely outside of me, and I was just kind of like a bystander watching it. But it was really, really fun to watch you and Jinx have this, like, beautiful, blossoming, long friendship.
A
Yeah.
B
In. In the dressing rooms.
A
Yeah. She's a fun wacko.
B
And tell me a little bit about before we. Because. Because I want to do a little competition, because you and I are both the. We are the Drag Race historians.
A
Yeah.
B
You and I. Yeah. We have both watched every season of us and. Including All Stars.
A
Yes.
B
And we also both won Drag Race the same year within, like, two months of each other, period. So you and I are also linked in our own special. I feel. I feel very linked to you as a. As a Drag Race queen. For sure.
A
I feel that.
B
Right.
A
Oh, I feel that.
B
My God. Is there anyone that you haven't been linked to that you're like, I want to hang out with this bitch. With this. We can't seem to make it work.
A
No, No. Let me think. I don't know. Do you.
B
I mean, do you. Do you like the young girls?
A
Yes. I'm always very impressed and very starstruck whenever I, like, run into the girls. Yeah.
B
Whenever I was like, I. I mean, I haven't really done the group tours in a long time. They kind of stop inviting the older girls after a while.
A
Well, yes.
B
Yeah. Well, except Kim, it's never stop working.
A
The world is not the older thing. I think it's like, once you're outside the kingdom a little bit, that. Because now the tours are part of the kingdom.
B
Yeah.
A
Like their affiliates.
B
Yeah. We don't have the keys?
A
No, I lost my key.
B
You did. And I think that's because of the jester. That's a story. There's this one video. It's my favorite video clip of your podcast. It is like, I can't remember what's being said, but they were talking about something that had nothing to do with. It was just like. It was just like some queen wearing, like, a wig. And you were like, I love this wig. This wig is so stunning. And then one of them was like. And RuPaul could never. And then Alexis goes, oh, my. Like, do you know this clip?
D
No.
A
That happens a lot.
B
It's just like, y' all could be like, oh, my God, the sky is so blue. You know what's not blue?
A
You know what RuPaul did once, and.
B
Then Alaska was like.
A
Yes. That should be the title of our podcast.
B
A lot of times, a lot of times when people mention who's going to be hosting drag race when RuPaul retires, you and I, our names get. Get brought up a lot.
A
We do. Yeah.
B
I do not think they would ever Let me host RuPaul's Drag Race.
A
You'd be so good, though.
B
I think I'd be great. I do not think I would ever get the invitation.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, realistically, I think that it would probably be Trixie, and it probably should be Trixie, to be honest. I think she has a really great appeal, and she, you know, knows how to reach the fans and stuff. I'm very opinionated, but. But, I mean, I don't have to be like, bitch, you. You know, bitch. You think. I do have discernment. But we're gonna. We're gonna compete right now.
A
Okay.
B
You and I are gonna do some Drag Race trivia, and we are going to see. So you have a game for us. How's it gonna work?
D
Yes. This is divided into a couple of different sections. Each sections have different ways you can score points. Okay, so our first section. This is just whoever says the answer first.
B
Okay.
D
Gets the point. Okay. Who will be the judge? Okay, so our first section is out of Drag Names. So I'm going to give you the name of a queen out of Drag. Whoever says the corresponding queen first gets that point.
B
Real quick, how do you get to do with this?
A
So you're going to say they're. They're out of Drag name. And we're going to say.
D
I would say Christopher Caldwell.
B
Is it just so. Because there's a lot of Justin's.
D
Yes.
B
And there's a lot of Brian's. Yeah, I say they're like 18 Kevin's. Yeah. So we're getting full names.
D
Yes.
B
All right, here we go.
D
All right. Who is Justin R. Reid?
B
You should know this, bitch. Ain't you a Justin? I am the Realization.
A
Oh, is it Lux Noir, London?
D
It is Lux Noir.
A
Noir.
C
Wow.
A
Okay, okay, okay.
B
Damn.
D
All right, Justin Woody.
B
This is all justice. This is not fair. Justin Woody. That sounds like a white guy who's big and brolic. I'm gonna say Justin Woody is Brooklyn Heights.
D
That is not correct.
B
Damn it. Do you know Justin Woody?
A
No. That's a Justin that I'm not.
B
They're not invited to the Justin delegation.
A
Who is it?
D
Anya Nerve.
B
Anya Nerve is Justin, too. Oh, my God, if you say Justin, I'm gonna flip. I'm gonna flip this table.
D
Christopher Williams.
B
Oh, that's Jaden Dior. Fierce. I know all the Chris's. I'm a Chris. I know all the Chris's.
D
Brock Edward Hayo.
A
Brooklyn Heights.
B
Taylor didn't make it. It didn't make it. My ill didn't make it.
A
Oh, no.
D
Kevin. Gabriel Candelario.
B
Gabriel. Oh, that's Delta work. No, Gabriel, Kevin.
D
Kevin. Gabriel Kendall.
B
Gabriel, Kevin. I don't know. Who is that?
D
Kandy Muse.
B
Oh, she doesn't look like a Kevin.
A
What a beautiful name.
B
That is a beautiful name.
D
Andrew Vladimir Dunyavsky.
B
Oh, that's got to be Sasha Velour.
D
No.
B
What?
A
It's plain Jane.
D
That is correct.
A
Oh, Russia.
B
Ruski.
D
Carl Sanchez.
B
Okay, this is.
D
This.
B
This is a Puerto Rican or some sort of a Latino queen. Carl Sanchez. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna take a wild guess here. This is Jessica Wilde.
D
That is incorrect.
A
Tyra Sanchez.
D
That is incorrect.
A
But her last name is Sanchez.
D
It is Nikki Doll.
B
Nicky Doll. Yeah.
A
So wait, she's French Lady French.
B
Puerto Rican.
D
That's her name.
B
Yeah.
A
It's pronounced Sanchez.
B
Yeah. Points taken away from. From the producer.
D
All right, we are now moving on to numbers. So I'm going to give you a question. The answer will be a number, which you will write down on the pen and paper provided.
B
Okay?
D
If you. You each can get it right and get a point. If one of you is wrong, whoever's closest will get that point.
B
Got it?
A
Okay.
D
Okay. Okay. On season 11, following the Diva Worship Challenge during week three, how many queens were forced to lip sync for their lives?
B
It's one of these two numbers. I think is this one. I think it's this one, and I feel strongly about it.
D
All right, present your answer.
B
I said nine.
A
I said 12.
B
Is it 11?
D
It was six.
B
Six.
A
That's not so many more queens in our mind. Because that was when they were all bad and they all had to lip sync.
B
Can we have a conversation about that? Lip sync for a second. Justice for Honey Davenport.
D
But, Bob, you were close to get that point, please.
B
Oh, it's a close thing. Got it. Justice for any Davenport. I feel like she shouldn't have gone home that episode. That's a really unfair lip sync. She took the boldest move out of anyone on stage, and she got penalized for it.
A
What did she do, jump off?
B
She jumped off and she crawled across.
A
The floor and she got sent home.
B
She was the one. Yeah.
A
Recount.
B
Worst of two is not bad. Worst of six, bitch. I'm shooting up the building. Too far. All right, go with the next question.
D
Ariana Grande has guest judge on Drag Race twice, most recently during All Stars. 10. What season did she first guest judge on?
B
Oh, baby. Because this. This was when. When Cynthia Rivo famously did the. The battle cry that Ginger Min says she did. The other girl said she didn't do it. Do you know about this drama? No, that was the most recent one.
D
Yeah.
B
Yeah. Anyway, you don't know, but you gotta. You gotta get. I gotta call you and give you the drama.
A
Please.
B
Yeah, we gotta go on more of our running. Running hikes. Running.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
We haven't done a minute. Her first time was definitely on this season that I've written down. I wrote 10.
A
I wrote seven.
D
Alaska is correct. It was season seven.
B
Was that a guess? Yes.
A
I knew it was like, olden times.
B
What? When does. When does Old Drag race end?
A
After 10. Like, 10 is included, I think, in single digit. Like Old Testament.
B
No, it's four and before. Or I would say six and before. I'm from the new era.
A
We're on 20.
B
I feel like I'm one of the new girls. I think you are. Am I the single digit? I. I am.
D
You're.
A
But because you're single digit, you are forever an eternal.
B
This is true.
A
It's not a matter of, like, being new or not. You are in the. Like, Mount Rushmore.
B
Well, I will allow for actually eight to be the end of the old seasons, only because it's Logo, you know, Al and bl. Before Logo and after Logo, you know, And I'm from BL. All right, go ahead.
D
On what episode of season 13.
B
Jesus Christ.
D
Did the first girl get eliminated?
B
13 was. Okay. Who won? 13. 13. Okay. 11 was. You already have it written down?
A
Yeah. I mean, It's a guess, but it's a. It's a presumption.
B
Four.
A
I wrote three.
D
The answer was four. Episode one was the lip sync one where they gathered. They made all the girls lip sync.
B
Let the chignon gathered the girl gathered the gal.
D
They made all the girls lip sync Episode one. And then episode two and three were the split premieres.
B
Getting your space shuttle mama. You're going back to Glamtron.
D
Got the girls together in the first round. As of now, December 10, how many drag Race winners are there across all franchises, all stars included.
B
Jake, wait. International.
D
International. All franchises.
B
That's not a fair question, but I do have an answer.
A
Wait, hold on.
B
Why you think I want to talk about something? I feel like I hate to be a. Back in my day, but back in my day, when every year, when a girl would win Drag Racer All Stars, the fans would make these big fan edits of all the queens who've won. And it used to be so cunty. When there were, like, 10 of us, it'd be like. And I was. I remember being way at. Way on the right side of the screen. I am.
A
Allowance paparazzi slowed down late.
B
It looks like the periodic. It's the periodic table. I'm up here with. What is that gold in the top left corner. I'm up here in the top left at Au Beryllium. I wrote 68.
A
I wrote 48.
D
The correct answer is 80. So Bob wins that one.
B
That's too. That's too many winners. I'm gonna say. You're so chill these days. I'm kind of obsessed with the evolution of, like, Earth Mother Alaska. Okay, do you remember, like, what was your album? Your album that you did with Amethyst Journey. Can I just go ahead and say real quick, on a quick pause, I'm gonna say right now, you are the best music girl coming out of Drag Race. I would say your music is the music I've actually listened to the most out of all the girls. You really changed the game when it comes to music. Do you. Do you. Do you give yourself that credit, or you are. You and your modest era still.
A
I appreciate that, and I. And I'm. I'm proud of the music that I put out.
D
Yeah.
B
It's so good. I want to see the. I want to see the Alaska Vegas show. Like, your Vegas residency. Here's my thing. Can I pitch my idea to you?
A
Yeah.
B
I think what's happening is the entire curtain is just a big trash bag.
A
Oh, I love that.
B
The curtains actually made out of A trash bag.
A
I love this.
B
And then you poke your head through the trash bag. The whole curtain drops. It is now your dress. This big trash bag falls down, and you're the dress. And then you hear that. And then your symbol starts to come together. And then it's big blight flash from behind you. You are Silhouette with this giant blonde wig. And you're doing this with your fingers, right? And then you stand on stage in complete silence for almost a minute. And then you go. And the crowd doesn't do anything, and you don't say anything. And then you go, and the crowd doesn't do anything. And then you go, hi. And then the song starts.
D
Boom.
B
Then the song starts. That's the beginning of the show.
A
That's so good.
B
Can I direct it?
A
Yeah, please. Based on that? Yes, you can.
B
All right, what's the next question? Jacob? Sorry.
D
How many seasons of Drag race aired in 2025 across all franchises, all stars included? How many what seasons of Drag Race aired internationally in 2025 and this past year?
B
And then there's that one. Then that one. Of course that one. 10.
A
4.
D
The answer is 8. So that goes to Bob.
B
4. Girl.
D
The International Girlies, Season 17 All Stars 10, Brazil, Season 2. France All Stars 1. Salesian Royale, UK 7. Spain.
B
5.
D
And Canada, Season 6.
B
When they. Okay, so they're doing the Latin, they're doing the Latino Royale and the Slave. Are you going to join the White Power Hour. When they call you? When you do the White Power, the Aryan Royale, his screens filmed in Deutschland.
A
You know, if they called me, I would do it.
B
All right, now we're.
A
They are going. This is.
D
We're done with numbers. I'm going to ask one of you a question. You have an opportunity to get it right. If you get it wrong, it goes to the next person to steal. And then we switch back and forth.
B
Okay, so we're going back and forth. Who's going first?
D
Let's rock, paper, scissors.
B
Okay, you ready? Undo. It's one, two, three, go. Right, okay. One, two, three, go.
A
One. Scissors, scissors, go.
D
All right, you got it, Miss Thunderfuck. Who did Manila Luzon play during Snatch Game on All Stars 4?
A
Barbara Streisand.
D
That is correct.
B
Do you remember when you were Alaska Thunder Fun for a little while?
A
Well, that's still my Venmo.
B
Thunder Fun.
A
Yes.
B
What? What. What made you switch to Thunder Fun for a hot moment?
A
I never officially changed my name to that. I just used that sometimes as like a. Like a family friendly version of it.
B
Felt like when Snoop Dogg had an album under the. A reggae album under the name Snoop Lion.
A
He did that.
B
He did a reggae album under the name Snoop Lyon. Honestly, it is a great album. Who did.
D
Who did Valentina play during Snatch Game and All Stars season 4?
B
During season 4, I want to say she played Eartha Kitt.
D
That is correct. Theree we go, Miss Thunderfuck. In season 17, the queens were introduced on day one, but they were split into two groups for the first challenge. What Was that?
B
Challenge 17 you said?
A
I don't know.
B
Didn't you review it?
A
I have no idea what has happened in the world season on that show.
B
17, which is the most recent season because they're on 18 now.
A
Oh, yeah, you're right.
B
The first challenge, and this was won by Anya Nerve. And was it a talent show?
D
It was a talent show. That's correct.
B
I have a great memory in my. In your. Do I really have a really great memory.
D
And we're still on Bob because it goes back to Bob on season 10, who was the first queen to enter the workroom?
B
Season 10 was Monet's season, and the first queen to walk into the work room was Age Ohara. You didn't get her steal it?
D
I'm sorry. I got. I got.
A
I wouldn't have known that information.
B
You better than me. I'd be like. And I would have knew.
A
Give me the point.
D
Give me the point, Miss Thunder. In what river did RuPaul watch a man drown?
A
The Hudson River?
D
That is correct. All right, Bob.
B
The most I could do is. Is send them. Goodbye.
D
What songs did Trinity the Tuck send Charlie Hyde home to?
B
Trinity's in Charlie Hyde home. Do something, Charlie. It was Britney Spears and it was work bitch.
D
That is incorrect, Miss Thunderfuck.
A
It was. I wanna go by Britney Spears.
D
That is correct.
B
Damn. Chewed me up.
D
Miss Thunderfuck, what song did Ra' Jah o' Hara send Scarlet Envy home to?
B
Oh, my gosh.
D
Scarlet Envy.
A
I don't know this information at this time.
B
I feel like it was a disco song, and I feel like it was Last Dance.
D
That is correct.
A
Disco share.
B
I do remember the disco. This memory.
D
I'm so right now you're Alaska has seven and Bob has eight. You're neck and neck.
B
Okay, here we go.
D
Bob season 15's ball celebrated Drag Race's 200th episode. What was the theme?
B
Season 15 this season was Samo. No, 15 was. Okay, I have to go from 11. 11 was Evie.
A
I can't even do that.
B
I just remember that 11. You know why I remember that? 11 was Evie, because Nina west walks in and goes, 11 Jinderi. So that's how I remember that. And she was in season, so I remember that 11 was Yvie.
A
12 was like pandemic times.
B
So this is Jada Essence Hall. Sure. Then. So now we're at 12. And then Simone. And then after. God. Oh, my God. Now I see why RuPaul can't remember anyone's names. The ball theme was. I do. I don't even. I don't even have a clue. What? Alaska. Can you steal it?
A
I don't know, like glitter or gold or something.
D
It was the crystal ball.
B
The. I. Oh, my God. I. I feel like RuPaul when she can't remember girls names. Seattle. RuPaul calling Jinx. Seattle.
D
Miss Thunderfuck.
B
That's Peak. Something that would happen to Jinx.
D
Stronger by Britney Spears was an iconic lip sync between Peppermint and Trinity the Tuck. During the finale of season nine, which two queens lip synced to this song.
B
On an earlier season, Stronger Than Yesterday. Live in. But my Louie, I don't know.
A
I have no idea. No.
B
Loneliness ain't killing me no more. All right, who lip sync to Stronger? I remember Trinity and Pep doing it. And Pep won the lip sync when she did the skirt reveal. And before that. Damn. I don't know either. Who was it?
D
Angina and Bebe.
B
It was.
A
I knew it was early.
B
Oh, I remember that now. People used to do some faux pas that would not make it in Drag Race these days, the wig removals.
D
All right, invented this next round is.
B
When you reveal that you have a head.
D
We're still doing steals for this next round.
B
Stills.
D
This is the same. Yeah. Name that drag queen. I'm going to show you a queen from Drag Race and you're going to tell me her name.
B
Like, just her drag name.
A
Yes.
B
Okay. And we're doing one at a time.
D
Yes.
B
Who's up first? We.
D
I think Alaska.
B
Who's on first? All right, Alaska. Here we go.
A
I. Wait. Yes, I know her.
B
Seattle.
A
Seattle. I don't.
B
That's. That's Jax. Connecticut.
A
Connecticut.
D
Bob, who is this?
B
That is Puerto Rico. Her name is Candy. Candy. Candy. Her name is Candy.
A
Candy Ho.
B
Candy.
D
I'm going to give it to Alaska because she. She.
A
For the seal.
B
She said she stole it. You're right. She did stole it.
D
Ms. Thunderfuck, who is this woman?
A
Oh, she is. Can I just tell everyone at home that it's very early in the day? I have not reached Peak Brain. Like, I literally know who this is. And she has a gorgeous nose.
B
Was this her stealing this or Ryan's story?
A
That's what I was gonna say after my explanation.
D
Who is this?
B
Oh, fuck. Her name is Crystal something. Crystal. She's the one who got sent home as a caveman. The one who said you my mood mind. Real RuPaul.
D
Miss Thunderpock.
A
Crystal Envy.
D
That is correct.
B
Fuck. I've given you the first name of these. Okay, I gotta stop doing that. I gotta wait until my full turn.
D
Ms. Thunderfuck, who is this?
A
Um, I'm not. I'm not sure that's the current season.
B
She's a hip hop dancer. And her name. That's not Nene Coco. Fuck. What is her name?
D
This is Mia Starr.
B
Mia Starr. And I love her fucking drag name.
A
Yeah.
B
Do you have a favorite drag name you've heard of all time? Because for me, it's got Mimi.
A
I'm first. Is really good.
B
Mimi I'm first is a brilliant name.
A
That's a good drag.
B
My two favorite drag names are probably Mimi. I'm first. First. Betty. Betty Nice, and Karen from finance.
A
So funny.
B
Great names. Betty. Betty Nice is a great Cuban queen. Betty. Betty Nice. All right, who's. Who's it on? It's on Alaska.
D
Alaska. Alaska. Who is this queen?
A
Oh, she is. Dion.
B
That's a. Athena.
A
Dion.
B
I don't know.
D
What is that? What is our studio audience.
B
Wake it up. Studio. Wake it up.
A
I was getting there. I was. I. And I honestly was. I honestly was. We said it at the same time. We can roll the tape back.
D
No. And it was her turn. All right, Miss the drag queen. Who is this?
B
Her name is. Her name is. Let me get all the way through this. No stealing until I say my thought. Darlene Mitchell.
D
Oh, that's correct.
A
Which is my other favorite drag name?
D
Miss Thunderbird.
A
Bring back just that human being's name.
B
Amanda Brown. Bring that back.
A
Darlene Mitchell is your drag. You can choose any fantasy name in the world.
B
Susan Williams.
A
I love it.
D
Ms. Thunderfuck, who is this?
A
That, of course, is Discord Adams.
B
There it is. She gives.
A
Who punched some. Who punched RuPaul in the throat and got set home on episode one and.
D
Missed the drag queen?
A
Is that the rumor?
B
Apparently. First of all, I want to say that she looked like Megan Thee stallion in this photo. But that is Juicy Love Dion.
D
That is correct.
B
Better work.
D
I think that's it for. Oh, no. Miss. Miss Thunderfuck. Who is this?
A
Yeah. I don't know. Well, give me a second. Give me a second. Give me a Second. I don't know.
B
Mandy Mango.
D
That is correct.
B
Cooked.
A
Yeah, I was gonna say that. That it was my turn. So.
D
So right now we have Alaska at 11 and Bob at 13. This is the final round.
B
Oh, there's one more round. Oh, God. Oh, God.
D
This is where you can really seize ahead in the competition. I'm going to give you a season of Drag Race, and you're going to tell me the elimination order from first to winner. You get a point for everyone you get, but if you get one wrong, that's the end of the line and you're done.
B
So you get a point for everyone you get right, and then once you get one wrong, those are all the points you can get. Yes.
A
Oh, my God.
B
Can I get season eight?
D
Miss Thunderfuck, can you start and can you tell me the elimination order for season eight?
A
No, I can't. Hold on.
B
There's no ceiling in this one. I have to get my own season.
A
I'm going to guess that you were on season eight.
B
Yes, I was.
A
Based on you saying you wanted season eight. That's the only thing I'm going off of. So the first. It was a short season. Drag us, and I have to choose the first person who went home or else I get no points.
B
Yeah.
A
Well, it wasn't. Who are you on your season with? I'm trying to, like, populate the room.
B
A lot of New Yorkers, I'll give you that. Four of us, actually. 3.
A
4 New York girls.
B
Three New Yorkers.
A
I mean, I just. I do not know any. Anything. I don't know. I don't know.
B
Can I say one of my favorite things is when Alaska is disappointed in herself. We were one time filming our great video, yet another dig, and we were. We were. We were in the desert in a Range Rover doing our makeup, which is.
A
Hard because there's no flat surfaces in a car and everything is sloped. And so you're just trying to set your. And there's nothing to set anything on.
B
So Alaska is doing her makeup in the desert, and then she ever. She's just having a hard time. She's struggling, and she goes. She goes. She's like. I can see it building up. She's sitting right. I'm in the driver's seat, she's in the passenger seat. I can see it, like, building up, and I'm like, oh, God, it's gonna be one of those. One of those things. And then last, at some point goes, am I even a fucking drag queen? Do I even know how to fucking do Drag. I've got a verse in my song where I'm throwing some shade at the fucking queens who didn't win, who won? And I can't even fucking do my makeup. I'm a fucking failure. And everyone's outside the car. Like.
A
Sounds like me.
B
And I was locked in the car with Alaska going full alien mode.
D
All right, do you want to try for anything or you want to pass to Bob?
B
You can get one point.
A
I do not know any of the human beings who are on your season with you.
B
We offered you coffee, and I didn't.
A
Take it, and that was my fatal mistake.
D
Miss the Drag Queen, can you give me the elimination order for season five?
B
Season five is your season.
A
Yes.
B
Okay. First girl going. Oh, my God. It is hard. It's hard, it's hard. First girl going home on season five. This was the season with you and Jinx and Detox, and I'm trying to figure out was. I'm trying to find out Was penetration on 6 or was penetration on 5? Because this answer is going to determine whether or not I get any points. Do you know who went home first in the season? You have it locked, unloaded, maybe? Okay, the first girl to go home. No. Yes, Penetration.
D
That is correct.
B
And then after Penetration went home, I want to say it is Serena Cha Cha.
D
That's also correct.
B
And then after Serena Cha Cha goes home, I want to say the next person is Vivian Panay.
D
Wow.
B
And then after Vivian Panay goes home, I want to say the next person. I feel like it was an upset. Like after Viva Penne, it was like, what the fuck? After Vivian Panay. Vivian Panay goes home. I want to say it was. I tap out. I'm going to make a guess so I can stay in the game. I know it wasn't you or Jinx or Detox, obviously. And it wasn't. So it wasn't real. Alaska talks and it wasn't Jinx because y' all were the top four.
A
Is it Monica?
B
Well, don't give me the.
A
Was it Jade?
B
Okay, I'm going to go with. Was Monica on your season? Monica, Beverly Hills, after.
D
Wait. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's correct.
B
And then. Then Jade.
D
No.
B
Okay, who's next then?
D
Vivian, Vivian Panay.
B
Wait, I already said Vivian Panay.
D
Oh. Oh. So then you. Sorry, it was Penny, Serena, Monica.
B
Oh, so I got two. Okay, I got two points.
A
Now, see, if you would have given me season one.
B
Oh, one.
A
I could do Pork Chop, Tammy, Akasha, Jade, Angina, Chanel, Rebecca, Nina, Bebe, Shangela, Nicole, Paige, Brooks, Mystique, Sonique, Morgan, and Sahara.
B
This is like your. This is like the dragon version of Yakko's World. United States of Canada, Mexico, Panama, Haiti, Baboo, BBC, Harvard. All right, so based on this, what are our final scores?
D
Bob, you have 15 to Alaska's 11. Before the final round, you were neck and neck with. You were 12 to 11.
B
Alaska. I'm going to be hosting RuPaul's Drag Race because.
A
Oh, this was the entrance exam. Theron is in the next room.
B
He was.
A
Who's got the chops?
B
But I would love.
A
Who can do the job?
B
But I would love to have you on as a guest. As a guest judge.
A
I would love that. Thank you.
B
You'll be a recurring guest judge, and I'm just so recurring. Yeah, like T.S.
A
Madison.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
Okay. Okay. So my cabinet does have positions.
A
Okay, good. Okay, good. Honestly, that's a better job to have.
B
You can be the Secretary of Defense.
A
Okay, great.
B
Right, Exactly. Y' all can find Alaska over on one of the head honchos over at Moguls of Media. She is one of the co host and creators of Race Chaser. She does shows, some really, really great shows all around LA more and more these days, which I'm obsessed with.
A
Yeah.
B
Where can they find you? Where can they find you?
A
Just go to alaskathunderfuck.com and you can find out where. Where I'm going to be.
B
I love you so much. You're. You're really. I really think you're an icon, and I really am obsessed with you.
A
Same.
B
All right, bye, everyone.
This episode of Sibling Rivalry brings the legendary Alaska Thunderfuck to join hosts Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change for a wild, hilarious, and deeply queer deep-dive into the history and shenanigans of drag performance, RuPaul’s Drag Race lore, and personal drag evolution. With signature banter, razor-sharp wit, and intimate behind-the-scenes stories, the trio (with significant focus on Bob and Alaska) reflect on punk origins, iconic shocking performances, touring drama, and test their encyclopedic knowledge with raucous Drag Race trivia.
Timestamps: 01:16–06:50
Timestamps: 03:07–04:54
Timestamps: 05:00–10:04
Timestamps: 10:04–12:23
Timestamps: 13:18–16:30
Timestamps: 28:41–43:24
Timestamps: 43:24–54:13
| Time | Speaker | Quote or Moment | |--------|---------|-----------------| | 01:02 | Alaska | “Why did you pee yourself? It's so far beyond me.” (Used as teaser for the episode’s outlandish stories) | | 06:14 | Bob | “Now comes the time when I show you my penis, y’all.” (Recounting Alaska’s old signature performance move) | | 14:21 | Alaska | “If your friends can’t piss on you in front of about a thousand people, are they really your friends?” | | 23:25 | Bob | “Be careful what you say on Drag Race, because it will become a big part of what you’re going to get at these meet and greets.” | | 30:30 | Alaska | “Why did you pee yourself? It’s so far beyond me.” | | 38:47 | Alaska | “I do not like lateness… I do not like it. Especially on a group tour setting.” | | 56:59 | Bob | “You are the best music girl coming out of Drag Race. …You really changed the game when it comes to music.” |
Timestamps: 48:05–76:03
For fans of Drag Race, queer performance, or raucous, no-holds-barred storytelling, this episode is a goldmine of history, chaos, and sickening good fun.