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My name is Bob the Drag Queen
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and I'm Monet X Change.
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And this is sibling rivalry.
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When you saw that news yesterday, I was. It was really, you know, I drew.
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I've been thinking we're gonna make since you know me.
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But it was just a strange Bobism when I found out entire lineage.
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Do you refrigerate your fruit?
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Ones that are open like pineapples and stuff like that. But apples I keep on the counter.
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You want to live in the Arctic Circle. Your house is cold. It's why your house is white people cold.
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It's not. We just had the heat on the other day.
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Finally.
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Yeah, cuz it was Andy said he leaves it on 63 every and he
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got it from Monet. Mon's house. I be up in the house like this. I be in Mon's house. Every time I go to your house, do I not go to get get the covers every. I be like, this is crazy how you live like this. This is wild.
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We keeping it.
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Mon walk around like. I heard Grande with her. You know,
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I remember you polar bear. You a grizzly bear. Shut up.
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Like, yeah, yeah.
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Get your feet off of me. Where are we going? Oh, we're not going yet. No, we're wrong. Oh.
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So. Hey everyone. We have our friend.
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It's not our friend.
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This is my friend. It is our first of all it.
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I said, yeah, thank you, Bob.
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I said, she clear it up a
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run that you heard it.
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I heard it.
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I did not say it. I said she.
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Okay.
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AR is my bestie from college.
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Arcia is. But she's our friend now.
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She is.
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Yes, I am.
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But her origin is my bestie now. We've been friends for quite some time. I met at 18. I'm 32 now, so that's due to.
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I'm not a math. Okay. Yes.
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When they start sweating, what are you trying to do?
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Start cracking.
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When they said best friend, wow.
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He's like, help me out. Wow.
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When they said best friend, Kamika found.
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That is not true. K is my bestie from fourth grade.
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K found in a gutter.
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You are a chaos person. You operate and live in.
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Kamika is also my friend because of me. Yes. We met through you.
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Yeah. Because I have great friends. I have great friends. I attract really great people.
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You do. That's true.
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Yeah. I really do. So you're welcome. You need it for the ones I've given you.
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But the funny thing is, Monat tries to keep us apart.
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That's not true.
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That is true.
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Monet for years tried to keep us apart. Monet would tell me about RC And Monet would be like. Monet would be like, I have a friend in New Jersey, and I'm gonna. And I go. And I would go, can I come?
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And.
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And Monet would be like, I'll chat. And then Monet would just.
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When did you ask me to go to New Jersey and see Arc coming
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back from New Jersey? I'd be like, monet, I thought you
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were going to see. When did you ask me to go to see Arc in New Jersey?
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I literally begged Monet. Every time you go, I said, okay, can I meet Arcia?
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Okay. But you can't travel to New Jersey. When did you ask?
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What? I have one.
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When did you ask to go?
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Did you travel to New Jersey?
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Tell me. Tell me. When did you ask to go to New Jersey?
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Would go. I would say, can I go? So then I literally begged. I said, can. I said, bob literally wanted.
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Bob will not go to Brooklyn to
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see a family member, but he would
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drive to New Jersey.
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Jersey to see someone.
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If you don't look off the one train, we can't be friends.
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Exactly. No.
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So then during the ponder play, Monet
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graciously RC Came to visit me.
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Yes.
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And then we went to.
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And then we all watched Black is. Wait, you watch Black is King together?
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Was it Black is King?
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I thought it was dream Gross.
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It might have been because we watched Black Skin with.
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I don't think it was.
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It was dream gross. Because y' all kept singing all the lines.
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I think you're right. Cause we watched Black and King with Peppermint.
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Yes.
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Pep came over to watch Black is King during the pun replay.
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Do you think Beyonce's gonna put a renaissance out on the platform. Or is it gonna be.
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I don't think Beyonce gonna ever release a visual. Beyonce's pulling Rihanna.
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Beyonce's like, it's coming when it gets there. Yeah.
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This album is in its 18th trimester.
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I know.
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It's a gift. Someone said a thing. They're like, honestly. Cause you realize that everyone keeps making their own visuals. Like, Beyonce's letting us make the visuals. Beyonce's gonna buy all the visuals and put them together. Thank you for doing the work.
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Kinda like I'm 7 11. She kind of did that. It was very. It wasn't like a typical video. She pieces, I think, put them together, make one video.
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No, 711 was shot. Was shot in a hotel room.
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Was it?
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Yes. It was all shot, like, on, like a.
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Maybe that's what I'm thinking.
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On a small camera. It was all shot, like, a little kind of fast. Yeah, it was just Beyonce's. You know, 711 was a very. What?
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Great song.
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I have no.
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I don't know if I'm allowed to say, but it wasn't great. I love Beyonce. But 7 11, like, if you read the lyrics, I'd be like, what is this? Like, wait, Smack it smell. I hate to pull a Ben Shapiro and read the lyrics, but I was like, 711 lyrics. I was like, what's going on? God damn. Goddamn. God damn. Sing it, sing it in the air. I know you care. Smack it, smack it, smack it, smack it in the air. Smack it, smack it in the air. Wave your hand side to side Put it in the air. Clap, clap, clap like you don't care. Smack that clap. Clap, clap. I was like, Beyonce.
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But Beyonce is one of those persons, she can literally just say whatever she wants to say. And people like, oh, my God. Yes, yes.
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But. But I did love the lo fi of the video.
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Lo fi. Oh, like, I got it. Yeah, I agree. It wasn't like super high definition resolution. It was. Yeah, if that. Which. Which maybe that's what she was going for. Beyonce. She wanted to appeal. Like, everything doesn't need to be perfect. This is me because the vibe was just me and my hotel room, my homegirls putting my. My camera phone on a tripod and making a video like everyone else does.
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And it's also relatable. You can relate to that very.
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You're very relatable.
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Absolutely.
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So can you tell. Arcia, tell us a little bit about yourself. So you all met at Westminster.
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Westminster Choir.
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Yes, we met at Westminster Choir College.
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Dead as hell.
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It was only like two black people. So, you know, we just kind of gravitated toward each other.
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We did.
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And we've just been friends ever since. You know, I remember in college we would make Wawa runs.
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We would go to Wawa.
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I love Wawa.
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Do you really?
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I found out Wawa when I. Because they have it in Philly.
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Yeah.
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So whenever I would go to visit
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Philly, Philly, Jersey, Delaware, I was like, yeah.
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If you don't know Wawa, Wawa's like, imagine a gas station. But like any deluxe.
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Deluxe, Deluxe.
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Honestly, like if 711 was brilliant.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's just a great spot.
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It's just a one stop pick. You can get every. Literally everything that you need. Yes.
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So Arcia is a beautiful singer. Arcia is a beautiful. Are you a mezzo or you're just soprano?
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I would say soprano, but I could hit a few low notes.
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Yeah, you can. You can.
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Years ago on the podcast and can you debunk this? Years ago on the podcast, Monat proclaimed that she was a basso profundo. Is that true?
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Yes, yes, yes, absolutely. I would say so.
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I will say Nick said, you aren't so. Well, here's the thing. My voice teacher friend, Laquita Mitchell.
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Yes, yes.
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She listened to an episode of me singing opera on drag and she called me. She was like, kevin, your voice has gotten a lot higher. I was like, really? She was like, yes. You can hear in the resonance in high school, I mean, in college, I sang lower. My voice sat lower. But I think over the years, it's just because male singers, unlike female singers who, like, reach their maturity, like in like their 20s, a male singer does not get there until like my age now 32, 33. So here is when my voice naturally will be.
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If it was my voice gets. My voice has gotten deeper. When I hear old videos of me, I'm like, who was that woman talking? Like, my voice used to be so, like, light and bitch. I sound like a mechanic. I sound like an old mechanic from Jordan.
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What?
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With a cigarette dangling my lip. Boy, you want to go around? Hey, that boy. Here's your problem. I was like, what happened to my voice?
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But R.C. and I, so her, Dejuan, myself and some other friends in college got really close. And I think, I don't know if you and your friends. But a thing that keeps our friendship going. People are very gagged when they meet us. We roast each other a lot.
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Roast each.
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We are always.
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And people are like, are they actually friends? And I'm like, we're really? Friends.
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I hear what y' all be saying to each other. I'd be like, oh, my God.
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But we.
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I. I, like. Kevin will literally call me like, hey, Taco Tammy. Like, and that's just. Those are terms of endearment. We just. You know, what can I say?
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I feel like they is going, what? And I like to, like, make fun of my friends. I'm like, this is. They be doing personals. I'd be like, this is wild.
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Not personal.
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I said, not personals. I said, oh, my goodness. These two was. They were the last night. Like, they was. They'd be calling each other all kind of bears and grizzlies and grabbing each other. I was like, this is last night. Just for clear money, don't grab my belly and make fun of me. You get what I'm saying? I will cry.
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I had to develop tough skin over
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the years, and I think because of my friendship like, that I'm like, I never really made me develop tough skills. Thick skin.
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So now, because I say such crazy things to you, if other people say it's like, it is what it is. I prep you for this.
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Oh, you prepped me for this.
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Yes, I did.
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Are you gonna thank Garcia, right?
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You see what I'm saying, Bob?
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Like, thank you for what?
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Where's your gratitude?
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Where's your gratitude for everything I've done for you?
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Where's your. But where. On what I've done for you? That's the thing.
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I'm trying to jump.
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That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And it's been like this for years.
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You've been like that for years.
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We're on you.
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And don't wave your hands in her
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face like I'm a lady.
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She's a guest on our podcast.
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Anyway. Oh, my God. So.
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Oh, and I was so.
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Arcia had her titties out last night.
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Bitch, today. She's always out this morning, this afternoon. Always. Act brand new.
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Always.
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I've known Arcia for, like, two years, and every time I see the titties be titties.
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Okay, but here's the thing. Arzia will have her titties out, and then she'll see a picture like, kevin, why you ain't tell me my titties are out?
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That's if I have a little piece of fat hanging out. Titties, that's fine. They can be out.
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So I was trying to look out for her, but in. Bob, you putting a battery in your
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back, but you try to embarrass me and look out for me.
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How did I try to embarrass you?
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You like today you was like, we gotta go to the house and get her bra.
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You said it like it's screaming in the streets.
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Screaming in the streets.
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RC Has a very large voluptuous breast. Very beautiful.
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Thank you.
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And so when she does not have a bra on, tread lightly.
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Tiptoe.
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Tiptoe. Think about it.
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Tiptoe.
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They, you know, they are really.
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The titties be titties.
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Why you going down here? Leave it up. Everything right?
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Why you doing all that, right? Why your hands are so low, right? Do your titties hang low?
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Do they wobble to the slow?
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Can you tie them in a bow? Do your titties be swinging with the motherfuckers hanging to your.
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Now, now, Bob, now you going. Now you getting outrageous. Yes, I see what you're saying.
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I'm telling you, rc, I'm telling you. Oh, yeah, that's how you see.
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So when they got jealous because recently me and RC were hanging out in
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New York City and when they were
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very jealous, I saw. I can see.
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I was not jealous.
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It was getting very jealous.
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Well, you don't know. Arcia likes to document every second of her life.
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Honestly, I enjoy social media.
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I'm just explaining to her.
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Okay, I wish I was more about that because whenever I look back at people who take all our pictures, I'd be like, wow, you really, you have so many memories. And I always forget get to take pictures. Especially when I. I will swear, I'm like, I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take all the pictures. And then I get there. I don't take. I start off being like, hey, everyone. And then I look up.
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But I think that's good though, because then you're able to be present. I feel like sometimes I'm not present because I'm so focused or fixated on trying to like, document everything. So some balance.
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It was a fun night though, cuz I went back. I was, I was, I was. What happened was I organized a. A black queer night for Strange Loop on Broadway, which was so.
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It was so dope.
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Really wonderful. Like it was.
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First of all, I took R.C. to see that show. We went to see it in the winter. Arcia saw the show before. So she was doing you a favor of coming to your little Black Friday.
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It was not a fair. I was delighted to be there.
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No, she texted. She was like, kevin, do I really gotta go?
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Kevin, you're literally making that up right now. Where's the receipts.
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Pull up the receipts. Yeah, you said text.
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Pull up the receipts.
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Yes, I said text, but I meant call.
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No, it's.
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See, but anyway, it was. Because I got you and my friend Too Face. Both are like. I mean, baby 2 face will document, like, too faced. Will document and repost it the next year for the memories. So it's really nice to be able to at least go back and explore it, because I see myself through your night. I did, like, no video. Pep actually did a really good job documenting, which was kind of shocking. Yeah, I was like, not Pep, because Pep usually hates social media, but Pep
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had the girls out.
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Oh, my God. Talking about the titty and Pep's breasts. Were I live fully out. Also, did you know that I found this out over the Thanksgiving break. Jacob went to Westminster.
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Really?
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You went to Westminster for what?
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Choir college.
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You don't have a mic? Jacob was a part of the Westminster Children's Choir.
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Oh, my God. From. With the. With the conservatory.
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And Jacob was thrown.
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Oh, wow.
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And Jacob was thrown out of the Westminster Conservatory Children's Choir for refusing to hold his music.
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Really?
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Yeah. Jacob wouldn't.
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Was Jacob thumbs up for thumbs down? Were you off book? Was that why?
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What?
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No way. Jacob.
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Jacob. Yeah, Jacob was off book. And they were like, well, all.
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Everyone's holding uniformity. Jacob.
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And Jacob won't hold his. This is Rose written on the story. Jacob won't hold his book. And Jacob was like, but I know the song. And they were like, okay, that being said, we're all holding books, right? And then Jacob's mom was like, well, he doesn't have to hold a book, and he doesn't want to. And they were like, well, he can't be in our choir. And they threw Jacob.
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Aw.
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How old are you, Jacob?
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Probably, like, between 8 and 9.
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Between 8 and 11, Jacob was. Jacob is a. Has been expelled from. From Westminster.
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No, Westminster Choir College. I mean, I. Tell me how you feel about us.
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How did you never. All the time. We mentioned Westminster, you never mentioned that.
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He's clearly. He's traumatized.
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You are.
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You are making Jacob relive his trauma of choir school on live in front of millions of people.
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You're ridiculous.
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Okay. I love that college experience. If I could go back and do it again, I would do it differently. How do you.
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I would do it differently as well. First of all, I would have went to hbcu.
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I would have went to hbcu.
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Yes. I would have went to an hbcu.
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I think I would have wanted to
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go to morehouse And I would have went to Spelman.
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Because they have a great music.
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Yes, they do. They do.
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And I went to Morris Brown.
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Okay, wait, but are they accredited?
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Back in my day.
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Okay, okay.
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Back when I was living in Atlanta, they were accredited. No longer.
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They're no longer accredited. How do you lose your accreditation?
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I'm not sure.
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It's probably just if maybe some. I mean, there's probably like, some criteria or some standards you have to meet.
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Like as a school, as an hbcu, as any school.
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Yeah. As a school institution.
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My entire county, Clayton county, lost its accreditation.
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The whole.
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The whole county.
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Oh, how does that happen, girl? Because it's Clayton. Monet is. I took Monet to Clayton county, was like, honestly, this is nice.
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It is nice.
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It is monetary. I. I love. I'm from Clayton. I love Clayton County. Clayton county is not nice. The thing is, in the south, because in the south, everything is new. Nothing in the south is old. Everything, especially Atlanta. The whole city was completely destroyed in the Civil War. So there's nothing really old in the south. Everything is, like 150 years old. And most. And most stuff that any black folks live in is even newer than that because black folks just start getting stuff until, like, the 1940s in some places. So everything is, like, relatively new. So nothing really looks old. But Clayton county, no one has ever accused. You're the first person I ever know who's accused Clayton county of being particularly nice.
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Not accused.
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Let's talk about how nice.
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And we are back.
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So.
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Yeah, so we all. So our friends. What would you change?
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You said you changed.
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Said you.
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You said it's just. You go to black.
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Because our. Yeah, cuz our. We. Our school was offensively white. Like, like, like legitimately. Again, it's a small school. Right. I think our whole school was maybe like 700 people.
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Right. And it was a part of a larger university, so the university had more students, but the conservatory just had a small amount of students.
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Yeah.
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So.
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And so that's undergrad. That's undergrad and graduate. Yes, conservatory students. So our class. So like your class maybe had like 100 people. Mine had a 75. And.
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And out of my 100, seven of us were black.
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You know what I mean? So I just.
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Everyone I know for M is black.
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Well, yeah.
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And that's it.
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And that's it. That's literally black.
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I know all the black folks.
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Right, exactly.
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Jacob. I know Jacob.
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Well, the conservatory is not the college. So let's be very clear about.
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Don't you ever try to dog Jacob.
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Okay? You see how.
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You see, Jacob went to the new school.
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Okay.
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Which still is.
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Which is still standard.
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I know.
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I got my degree.
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But here's the thing.
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So since our thing closed, I feel like they should cancel any of our student loan debt.
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Your neck. It's driving me crazy.
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It's been driving me crazy. I can't just. That's been driving me crazy.
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Oh, that was too much. I can't have him look at that.
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But. So Aria is here in Los Angeles. She just. Just celebrated her birthday.
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Yes, I did.
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Her birthday is the. Well, this year was the day after Thanksgiving.
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Which.
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Thanksgiving is your favorite holiday?
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Jesus.
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Birthday. No, Thanksgiving is your favorite holiday.
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You like?
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No, actually, Christmas is my favorite holiday. But. But you said Thanksgiving was my favorite holiday. To get a rise out of me for the ham hocks. For you, the macaroni and Cheese and the dressing and everything that brings you joy.
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Sausage and the brisket.
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Yes. Look at you.
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Wait, so. Okay, so let me try. Now, here's the thing about Monet. Mon pulls this. This thing that Kimchi used to pull on Drag Race. Whenever you mention something, Monet.
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Mon.
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If Monet doesn't know it, Monet will swear up and down us. Because she's not American. Despite living in America for the majority of her life. Monet would be like, well, I'm from St. Lucia. Like, so we were looking at Monet's. Monet finally showed me her home that she's renovating today. And Monet was like, well, this is gonna be the living room. Blah, blah, blah. And then this back here is gonna be. And I said, oh, wait, which one is the living room? And Monet was like, well, I'm. See, I was raised in St. Lucia, and in St. Lucia, we have, like, a main living room. And then I don't know if you.
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Like a sitting room.
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I was like, yeah, it's called a den, right? And I was like, yes, ma'.
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Amonia.
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Americans have dens.
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Okay, you're right. I did not know the colloquialism that Americans use for that. Cause I'm just not.
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Stop acting like you, Moni. You act like you moved here two years ago.
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But I have never called.
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I don't know what a. Denver. You're not from New York.
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I'm from New York, but in New York, also New York, houses are very small. We don't have space for dens and things.
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Yeah, you don't have that. Exactly.
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So I never had.
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You barely have room for your window units.
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I never been in a place that had a den like that.
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Monet was like, do you Americans like Monet?
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Like, is this a thing here?
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All of a sudden, you have her accent. Get stick. She go. All of a sudden, she's as sweet as St. Lucia when it comes to understanding things.
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So I see. We are.
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I was going to ask you. I was going to ask you, do you. Does your family celebrate Thanksgiving?
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My family? Yeah. So my family used to celebrate Thanksgiving a whole bunch. But as we have gotten older, and my brother got married, and he has his wife and his four kids, and they're.
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His wife.
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American.
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His wife is American. So, like, they all, like, people have. And then my. My other aunt that has, like, her three kids, although they're grown, like, everyone has a kind of spread out. So. But when I was younger, until, like, college, halfway through college, every year, we would get together at my House in Brooklyn, my aunt's house in Queens. Like, it would be like 25 of us having Thanksgiving, but it's just. It just doesn't happen.
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I feel like it's not like that anymore in general.
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Right?
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Yeah. The holidays just feel a little different.
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Do you. Did you celebrate Thanksgiving?
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Yeah, we celebrated all holidays. Yeah. But it just doesn't feel the same. Like, it used to be big, this big production, and now it's just like everyone just kind of does their own thing.
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Is your family, like, West Indian or anything? No, because I feel like in New York City.
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She's not from New York City.
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Oh, from New Jersey. In New York.
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In New York City, your friend, you don't know where she's from.
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Continue. I said New Jersey. I had a slip of the brain.
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It's okay.
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But New York City, none of, like, not none of. I'm being hyperbolic, but, like, you meet black folks, they're all like, oh, I'm not American. Like, none of the black folk, they're all like, I'm Dominican, I'm West Indian, I'm, you know, Nigerian. But they're like, I'm not American.
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Like, I never said I'm not American. I always say I'm West Indian. American. People ask me, like, what are you saying? Because also, I'm super proud of that
C
West Indian in the south. And I'm saying that is valid. But I'm saying in the south, none of us have ties, like direct ties to parents. Like, none of us are first generation. Very few black Southerners are first generation. Like, you do not run into. Because you're first generation.
A
Yeah.
C
Meaning your parents were not. Yeah. You were born in America and your parents were born. Yeah. So, I mean. Yeah, but you meet a lot of first generationers in New York, but you just don't run into a lot of that. Probably in New Jersey, too, you don't run into a lot of people who aren't.
A
Because New York is what you call it. What city?
C
The melting pot.
A
No, but New York is a. New York is a sanctuary city. So a lot of immigrants feel safe to go there because you either have friends or family who've done it before. So, you know, it's possible. You know what I mean? As opposed to going to, I don't know, our favorite city, Andalusia, Alabama, to start over. It's like Andalucia, Alabama. You don't know if you're.
C
If you are a first generation person living in Andalucia, Alabama, please comment below.
A
Please, please.
C
Is anyone from Andalucia someone. If you're listening, I feel like we're
A
asking before we got one person to respond. I feel like we did.
C
Were they telling the truth?
A
Who knows? Probably lying. Some lying ass nigga.
D
Oh,
C
rc, have you seen the video? So do you. Quick question. Do you think Monet has a Caribbean
D
accent when she decides to pull it out? Monet picks and chooses.
C
And that's on tv.
B
Yes.
C
Have you ever seen Monet? Well, monetary decided on this day.
D
Okay.
C
To be straight up St. Lucien. Her name. Her name was St. Lucia, honey.
A
On this day.
D
Caribbean pageant. How does it feel?
C
It feels so good. So good.
A
Just as sweet as St. Lucia.
D
What does this mean? Representing your country.
A
This means everything to me. I love St. Lucia. I am St. Lucia. To the core of my heart. To the core of my spirit. I love all my St. Lucia family. And I can't wait to celebrate this with my mom.
D
With my mommy.
C
Best part. You look wonderful.
D
Let the people know something.
A
I just want to say to everybody out there who. If you. If you are gay, sexual, bisexual, anything, just hold on to your dreams and try as hard as you can to make them happen.
C
Because this has been a dream of
A
mine for a very long time. And I am so happy and proud to be Miss Gay Caribbean 2014.
C
Monet found out about that pageant two years before she goes.
A
It's been a dream life for a long time.
C
I have enjoyed.
D
Is that on YouTube?
C
Oh, it.
D
That's my first time seeing this.
C
We found it and it has now had a whole life. It has now been posted.
A
Jacob is sneaky and very.
C
People now have found it. Extracted that because it used to be part of a whole interview. People have now pulled the clip of Monet being as sweet as Saint Lucia.
A
Anyway, sorry.
D
When you get excited, you start stuttering.
A
It is the funniest thing I know. I have a speech impediment. I'm very open about my speech.
D
Okay, great. Okay. Yeah.
C
One guy who dreams.
A
Should we talk about your impediment?
D
Sure, let's talk about them. We can talk about each other's. Where do we begin?
A
I want us to remain friends.
D
I would like that too.
A
Yeah.
C
There's this one guy who drags me mon online who's like. He like.
A
Like literally he like hates us.
C
But I. One time he got out, it was so funny. He was like Bob. Her little stuttering ass.
D
What?
C
I don't know.
A
Y' all know Bob gets joy from my making fun of my. So RCA is here for her birthday and we celebrated at our friend Kareem's house last night. And the night took a wild turn. So we play this game called Porch. If you know what porch is, Porch is like a really fast paced uno where you get a two car penalty for many things. If you don't. If you did not remember what color it was. Two car, two cards for you. If Bob say, go, Monet, when is our serious turn for two cars? There's a two car penalty if you're
D
in my business when you shouldn't be. Two car, mind your business.
A
If you take more than two seconds to play your card after the card's been played, pick a pickle card. You should have been paying attention.
D
It's a very aggressive game.
A
I can't believe Bob won.
C
Why?
A
Because you normally.
D
You were the first one out, right?
A
Yes. But you normally have a book of. You normally have the whole deck in your hand. Last night was a good night. Last night was a good night for you.
D
It was a good night for you.
C
I think on my toes very well. And I'm good at strategizing. So I'm not shocked that I won at all.
A
So. But before that, last year we did this thing for dejuan's birthday and someone came to the party and they refused to pick up their two cards. So someone else at the party was like, they got into this heated exchange about these two cards. And that kind of ended the game this year. So we start playing a game this year. It was the person who got into the argument with the person last year was like, what did he say?
C
He was like, and just so you don't. I can't remember the person. Let's say the person's name was Rachel. He was like, rachel. And don't be like Rachel. And I was like, so what happened with Rachel? And he was like, well, Rachel. I told her to pick up her two cards. She did not want to pick up her two cards. And this fat bitch had the nerve. And everyone at the party, when he said everyone at the party went right.
D
We were perplexed.
C
We all like, oh, we, we jumped straight to body savings.
A
I know. And then he kept on. He said the words fat bitch at least 17 times. I was counting.
C
I had a count in my hand.
D
Really.
C
So then we all kept. As we were playing cards of the evening, we were like, pick up your cars, you're going to be a fat bitch. You better get your two cars or he's going to call you a fat bitch. He gonna come to your house, call you a fat bitch. Get the cards, get Your cars. Unless you want to be a fat bitch up in the speech. But it was. It was. I had a lot of fun last night.
D
Yeah, me too.
A
It was good.
C
I was really smoozing.
A
You were.
C
And you know, you're not.
A
Well, you are a good smoother. But you were really. Bob was making. You were talking to everybody. You were over here. You over here.
C
I was like, she was really.
A
Her bag.
C
Well, I knew enough people at the party, okay. Because I knew.
A
Because you hate small talk.
C
I hate small talk. But I knew enough people, so. Because there were like maybe like eight people there.
D
Yeah.
C
But I knew you. Dejuan Arcia, Michaela J. I knew four people. And Andy and Andrew Short. Yeah. Andrew Thomas Short. So because I knew enough people, I didn't feel completely, you know, awkward. And also there were some really fun conversations going on. I was like, this is. I love to, like, listen to people.
A
Fun conversations. Wait, can you.
C
There are people, like, gossiping about other
D
people at the party.
C
Yeah, there are people gossiping about people at the party. There are also people gossiping about people who were at the last party. Whatever that last party was. It really.
D
It was a train wreck about a year ago.
C
The one who called the girl a fat bitch, he was having some other drama with this one girl whose name I won't say, but I was, like, listening to the drama. He was like, I don't talk to that bitch no more. And I was like, oh, my God.
A
I know. He was.
C
I was like. So I was listening to him talking about why he didn't talk to that one girl anymore. And I was like, oh, my. I was like, I don't want. I mean, I'm probably going to be in his bag races now, but he's someone who I do not want to be in his bag. He will destroy your. Yo.
A
He will destroy your image, girl.
C
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
I had a party with Bob and that fucking bitch was that fucking big,
C
black, black, shiny black, bald, Bald headed black.
A
He was.
C
I was like, oh, my God. Big tooth ass.
D
Oh, my God. You just never know. Yeah, you never know what you're gonna hear.
C
But.
A
So these are. So a lot of these people were your friends from the east coast?
D
High school and some from college. Yeah, yeah.
A
So why did you choose to come to LA for your birthday to celebrate with.
D
You know, I love la and I haven't been here since June, so I was like, you know, it would be a great place to celebrate my birthday. Be around friends, have a good time and get out the Cold.
A
It's cold, right?
D
It's freezing cold on East Coast. Yes.
A
Now, I do have something I want to say, because I kind of feel. Okay, well, you know what? Let me. So you know RC has a podcast. I do, and I have never been invited to be on a podcast.
D
That's a lie.
C
The lie detector determined.
D
How many times have I asked you to be on the podcast? We could never solidify a date, but I've asked you several times.
C
That sounds, like, true.
A
Have you. Have you asked Bob?
D
No, not yet. You see how Kevin's trying to create discourse right at the beginning of. Y' all were.
C
Y' all were best friends. Y' all been friends for months and weeks. I said we are friends.
A
Now y' all just solidifying friendships.
D
You're messy.
A
Bob.
C
You have been on podcast.
A
People you have never met before.
C
Okay? So please. We met during the Ponda Replay.
A
That was two.
C
You didn't realize.
A
When you say that now, that doesn't mean. That means, like, three years ago, I
C
just hung out without you for the first time ever.
D
Yes. And my podcast is fairly new.
C
We hung out with our.
A
So. So you and John. John Lovett, y' all are just best friends. You did his podcast.
C
Okay, so as I've heard. Tell the story before, if you're new, you'll hear this. There's a guy named John Lovett. And do you know who Jon Lovitz is?
D
I do not.
C
John Lovitz was. Is this actor. He was. He had a cartoon called the Critic.
D
Okay.
C
He was on snl. I thought I was going to do John Lovett's podcast. It's just this guy named John Lovett.
A
He's a. He's a political pundit.
C
He talks about political stuff, but it's. It's like. Like Michael Jordan and Michael B. Jordan.
D
Got it.
C
Except if Michael didn't go by B. If he was just like, I'm also Michael Jordan.
D
Right, right, right.
C
And so I show up. I was the whole time thinking, like, when is John Lovitz gonna get here? Like, I was like, did this person hosted with John Lovitz? And then someone backstage told him that I thought he was Jon Lovitz. And then he was very upset with me on stage.
A
Really?
C
He was not very upset with me.
D
Was it obvious he was hurt?
C
I think he was hurt. I didn't know who he was.
A
Did it come out, Eric?
C
It's out.
A
I need to listen to it. Oh, yeah, it's out.
C
It is definitely. It was a live one at the Dining Typewriter. I Want to go back to doing. I know we do our tour, but like a live podcast type moment. I want to talk about how you all celebrated Thanksgiving.
A
Oh, Thanksgiving.
C
So did you get show up on your birthday or show up on Thanksgiving?
D
Black Friday. So I came here on Friday.
A
So tell us about your Thanksgiving experience.
D
So Thanksgiving, I actually woke up in DC and then.
C
Did you go to sleep in dc?
D
I did go to dc. You make it sound like I went to sleep in. Woke up in dc, My business. And then I drove to my godparents house where we celebrated Thanksgiving.
C
Where's that at?
D
They live in Cherry Hill, right side of Philadelphia.
C
In the dmc? No, Philly.
D
Yeah, right outside of Philly. And then I drove. It's like an hour and 40 minutes. But I had to go back to Jersey anyway.
C
So it was the night hour 30 from DC.
D
Hour, hour.
A
And really close.
D
Yeah, it's really close.
C
That's so wild. I felt like in my mind DC is like more south.
A
Yeah.
D
Yeah. And also depending on where you are in D.C. too.
C
So I'm not super familiar with the DMV. I just. I just realized it's called the DMV.
A
Yeah, DMV area.
C
The DMV.
A
DC. Delaware.
C
Delaware. No. DC.
A
Virginia.
C
Maryland.
D
Yes.
A
Yeah. Okay, But. But Delaware also calls it a DMV sometimes too.
D
I don't know if they're officially a part of that whole dn.
A
I mean, my family though, when they call it the deal.
D
Really?
A
Yeah.
D
Oh, wow.
A
Okay, so it's kind of like.
C
I don't know, I. I just found out about the dmv.
D
So then what's the tri state area? New Jersey, New York and Connecticut. Okay, got it.
A
Called the tri state area down there too.
D
The Delaware. Yeah, it's like pick one.
A
Delaware. Delaware is double pick one. Because they're close to other ones too. Like all that stuff down there is just like, kind of.
C
When I think tri state, I think
A
New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, but Delaware.
C
Or is it Pennsylvania?
A
See, I got.
C
Wait, the three. Is it the states are the three states. Is it Connecticut or Pennsylvania?
A
Pennsylvania. No, New York. The New York tri state. Okay. There can be multiple tri states in New York. Tri state is Connecticut, New York, Jersey.
C
Yeah. But Pennsylvania is not part of the tri state.
A
No.
C
Okay, so the tri state is. Yeah, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York. Yeah.
D
Yeah. Okay, cool, cool, cool.
C
Yeah, that's what I think. Connecticut is small. Tiny, tiny. So petite.
B
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A
So you went to the Ballards.
D
Yes, went to the Ballards, had dinner there. I mean, it was everything. Like fried turkey wings, barbecue turkey wings, jerk turkey. That's the thing about black. We're going to give you variety.
C
You ever think about when you. When you eat wings? Do you ever think about. Because there's only two wings per bird. Do you know how many birds have to be.
A
Yeah.
C
For you to have a eight piece? I know that's four birds.
B
It's true.
C
And you think four. But if you, if you're doing all flats.
A
Yeah.
C
Because you know, you can get a leg. You can get a drum and a wing, right?
A
Yeah. From one.
C
If you need a 12 piece, that is six.
A
And you think about that. You think about, like, at any. At any Popeyes or KFC whatever. Like if theoretically, no matter what state you're in, you can go to any Popeyes or KFC and you can, in theory, order a 20 piece.
D
Yes.
C
Like 10 birds.
A
10 birds. But multiply that by the amount of meat that we had to produce.
D
It's kind of actually sad.
A
That is insane.
C
But that's the thing. Like, I think it'd be different if you. You were eating like the whole bird. If you got like two wings, two drums and a breast.
D
Right.
C
That's one bird.
A
Yeah.
C
I might need to go vegan. This is. I can't.
D
Yeah, it's. It's a little sad.
A
The factory made. Well, I thought we all know, like, beyond and impossible. But. But I heard that they're trying to, like, make like, animals because they just did that. Sheep. Yeah, they just raised a sheep in a bag. Like it was. It was not in the mom's womb. Like it was made in a. I
C
mean, because if it's sentient, then it's still the same thing. If. If the sheep can think, it doesn't change all it means.
A
I don't know, that the sheep just
C
probably had a worse life and its body probably hurts from being grown in a. I have to go vegan. I have to go vegan. When you named all those wings, I was like, all those wings. Because I think myself. You only think of one turkey at Thanksgiving. Y' all had, like, eight of them.
D
Yes. And I didn't even. I didn't even get to the other meats.
A
Okay, yeah. So tell us what y' all have.
D
Okay, so we had the turkey family. Then we had the chicken.
A
Stop laughing.
C
We murdered the whole family. Got whopped.
D
Then we had the chicken family. Same barbecue chicken, fried chicken, jerk chicken, curry chicken, all of that. So. And then we went to the ham. Honey baked ham. Regular ham? No, your favorite.
C
It was a sad day on Old McDonald's farm.
D
Then we had scallops and fried. It was just a spread.
C
Did y' all have vegetables and bread?
D
Yes. Yes, Bob. We had vegetables. We had collard greens. We had string beans.
A
Okay.
C
Collard greens in New Jersey.
A
Collard greens.
D
I love collards.
C
Collard greens in New Jersey.
A
Collard greens are disgusting.
D
Are you serious?
A
Collard greens never taste good.
D
Then you didn't have the right cooks.
C
I mean, if you're eating collard greens in New York City, I imagine they might be a little odd.
D
You gotta get somebody from the south to make those collard greens. Put some meat in it.
A
I do not like collard green.
C
Me and my mom got to a big argument about collard greens.
D
Really?
C
It's huge. My mom had to start eating healthy. My mother is underweight. My mother's very. Mama is very skinny. She lost, like, 40 pounds, but not out of effort. Just like she said, oh, I lost 40 pounds. So went to the doctor, and they were like, all right, Martha, you got to start eating healthier. And then my mom is, like, insisting that collard greens are healthy. I said, yes, mom, collard greens. The plant. A collard green is healthy. Now, the way that y' all be cooking collard greens is not. If you take the collard green and you dip it in salt and grease, and you throw a whole ham hock in it, it's not healthy anymore. My mom is insisting that collard greens are healthy. You know what? I just found out what happened. Me and Jacob went to the. So I don't cook. I cannot cook. Okay, so you supposed to throw, like, a. There's cuts of the animals that you put in peas and grains to flavor it. Like a ham hock. Do you know what a ham hock is? I found out what a ham hawk is.
A
It's a foot.
C
Yeah, it's the knuckle of the pig. So me and Jake were in the smoked meat section. By the way, if you can't cook
A
the smoked meat Section of y' all Thanksgiving dinner.
C
No, of the grocery store. Jesus. So if you can't. If you can't cook, they send you to go buy the groceries for people who can cook. So I'm always going to get groceries when I tell you it is ransacked. First of all, Jacob. Jacob offered to go himself, the way my family would have. If Jacob would have came back with the wrong meats, it would have been a whole thing. You know, I'm gonna go. Jacob. I don't even know what to look for. The Kroger is beat up. It looks like Armageddon. There's literally a sign hanging, swinging in the background. The shelves are empty. Empty shelves forever. The smoked turkey section. The smoked meat section. I supposed to either get a hamahawk, a turkey tail, or a turkey neck.
A
And they had none of them.
C
None of them.
A
So what did you get?
C
I got turkey bacon. I got the bacon. I got some bacon.
A
You took Jacob out back, you shot him and you couldn't.
C
And I said, I'm gonna. We had. We had a large. I was trying to get fat back. They didn't have that either. So I ended up getting large cut bacon.
A
Okay. All right.
D
That's flavorful.
A
Yeah.
C
I was like, why can't.
A
I was.
C
My thought process. Like, I don't. I'm like, why can't you just put, like, another piece of. A piece of pork in there? Just put, like.
A
I don't know why it has to be that.
C
Can I just grab, like, the diced.
D
Maybe those parts of it has more fat, and that produces more flavor, more
A
fat in those things.
C
I don't. It was too much. We had a ham, a turkey, cornbread. Stuffing. I love. I love stuffing. It is.
A
I like stuffing, too. Do you call it stuffing or dressing?
D
Dressing.
A
Dressing. What do you call it? Stuffing.
C
I've heard it called. People switch back and forth, but, man, it's. It's my. It's my favorite part of Thanksgiving.
A
Uncle Steve cooks.
C
Uncle Steve cook everything. Most. Most of stuff. My brother also cooked a ham and. And a few people who came over bought desserts and a casserole and, like, a chicken casserole.
A
How many people did you have at yours?
C
Maybe 15 people. 20?
A
Yeah. How many? How many?
D
15. 20.
A
So I. So back when my family do it, it would always be at our house in Brooklyn or my aunt's house in Queens. It'll be about 20 of us. And we would do four meats. We would do turkey, ham, oxtail, some type of wings, either, like honey barbecue or Something like that. We do Mac and cheese, but in the West Indies, we don't call it macaroni. Americans call it baked macaroni and cheese. We call the same thing macaroni pie.
D
Okay.
A
I don't know what I want you to.
C
This Thanksgiving.
A
What can I tell you about my life? Yes. Jacob county, Everybody was there.
C
25 people.
A
Damn. Damn.
C
It's a big house.
A
I know. He's a very big house.
D
Yay.
A
And then we do the macaroni pie. Red beans and rice or white rice. And then we'll do some other. Like some greens. But we do. Our greens are not. I don't know what kind of greens it. Not collard greens, though. We see. What's our green?
C
Green kale.
D
Spinach.
A
Not spinach. I don't know what it was. Anyway, this year, so Andy and I. Okra.
C
You like a leafy green?
A
It was a leafy green. I don't remember what it was, though. It's a very long time ago. So this year, Andy and I. Arugula. Not arugula.
D
I'm like, I hope not arugula.
C
Bok choy.
D
Cooked arugula.
A
No.
C
No.
A
Anyway, so this.
D
Get it out. Yes.
A
This year, Andy and I, we went to a mutual friend. Now our CNO is Brian. We went. He had a Thanksgiving at his place and him and his person that he's currently seeing. And then Andy and I and then another friend, Keoni. So we all did it at Ryan's house. And I brought. I made a macaron cheese.
D
It looked good.
A
My macaroni and cheese.
D
It was a hit.
A
Slap.
C
Was it a hit?
A
It was a hit. Honey.
C
Where do you put your Mac and cheese?
A
So I make my cheese sauce.
D
So you do. What do they call, like, a rouge?
A
A roux.
D
A roux. A roux. Sorry.
C
What did you put in your pie? Your macaroni pie. Pie.
A
So I melt two sticks of butter. I let that simmer down. I put some minced garlic in there with the butter. I put that on very low heat. Then I put about a quarter cup of flour in there to make the roux. As the roux.
D
Okay, okay, okay.
A
Then as the roux is going.
C
What is roux?
A
It's like a thicket. It's the base of the cheese sauce to make it thick.
D
So you don't use eggs? Cause that's what people used to use.
A
Yeah, I don't use anymore.
C
Why can't you just make it thick with, like, flour or something?
A
I just said I added flour to the roux.
C
I'M Emeril Sakazi or whatever his name is.
A
So that gets going. Then you add two pints of heavy cream. You put the heavy cream and that all gets going. And then you add the cheeses. I did 8 ounces of sharp cheddar cheese, 8 ounces of Colby Jack cheese, 8 ounces of Colby cheddar cheese. I had.
C
You sound like drag queens. Kobe cheddar, sharp cheddar Jack cheddar.
A
Then I put one cup of whole milk in there because the whole milk makes it a little creamier.
D
Creamier.
A
And then I season it with paprika, salt, pepper, and then more drag queens. Then the noodles. While all that's happening, the noodles are boiling. Then when noodles are done, I put the cheese sauce in there, mix it together, put in a pan, and then cover with parmesan and another layer of cheddar Jack cheese and bake it for 45 minutes.
C
Did you have to Google that recipe or did you just know?
A
I was just about to say I know it.
C
So if I asked you to right now, without going, you could make this?
D
Yeah.
A
No.
C
No looking at anything.
D
So you looked at nothing? No.
A
YouTube. My mom has been making. So my mom. Every Sunday my mom would cook, which I was talking to her the other day, I was like, that is insane to think that these women would work a full 40 hour work week. Clean on Saturdays and then Sundays, be in the kitchen from 11am until 5, 5pm cooking girl.
C
There are people who cook every day. I don't know, full meals every day.
A
But I'm like, I work. I work a couple days in a week. And I'm like, leave me alone for that. Like, I need.
D
Like, I can cook.
A
And then, then this, this fucking motherfucker.
C
Like, can I. Can I go to them? But like, I like.
A
Kids are. I could not imagine being a parent back home.
C
I kept thinking of the whole time I was back home because there was this. My. My cousin had a baby. And not even that, but like, even just like taking care of my nephew when I was home. I was like, I don't think I could, like, just ordering. Ordering food was an or deal. Just.
A
I don't like, I don't like.
C
And I was like, this is. I don't think I'm. Maybe I'm not cut out for kids because it's too much.
D
Yeah.
A
What about you? Do you want.
D
I always said that I wanted children, but the older I get, I'm like, I don't know. Just because they're cute to look at. But, like, seeing Them and they just need you so much and you can't move how you want to move. You have to always be cognizant of your child.
A
Well, I have a question. We're like shifting a little bit. Like, as a woman, do you feel pressure to have a kid?
D
Of course. Like, I just turned 33 and I went to my gynecologist the other day and he was like, so are you thinking about having kids anytime soon? I'm like, well, I mean, at some point he was like, because, you know, after 35, it gets a little dicey. So there is societal pressure to like make a decision. But I'm like, like, can I get a partner first?
A
Yeah. Like, so would you ever have a kid by yourself?
D
I'm not against it. I'm not against it.
A
I recently was listening to an interview about one of the women from the Lion. From the Lion King, the woman king, because she's South African. She's saying, you know, coming to America is a little bit of a culture shock because back in South Africa, it truly is a village of people. Like, you have, you have a. You have a system of people to help you raise this kid, right? Really recognize on there that it is impossible to do it sometimes with just two parents. And she was like, so to see the. How the culture in America, it's typically just like sometimes a single of most people, a single, not most people. A lot of people have to deal with a single parent. Or if you're lucky to have two, she's like, that's like that. It's like unfathomable to her.
D
It's hard.
C
I was thinking, well, really, excuse me for a loop. Back being back home was I kept thinking about where everyone else was when they were my age and then also realizing what really blew my mind was that I am much older than my uncle was when I live with him.
A
Wait, so again, you Scotty.
C
I used to live uncle Scotty for, for like a school year. I live Uncle Scotty and I am eight years older than he was.
A
When you were living with him.
C
When I live with him.
D
Him.
A
Wow.
C
And he would, he was just so.
A
You would have been 30.
C
He was 28.
A
28 when I lived with him.
C
I was in sixth grade. He was 28 years old. And I remember thinking to myself, he is this old ass man.
D
No way. Old.
C
You dusty.
D
You are not dusty.
C
You are my dusty old ass uncle. And then I was around the house and I was doing like this stuff for Cammy on my nephew. And I was like, I. I Am significantly older than my uncle Scotty was
A
when you were raising.
C
When. When I. When he. He upraised me. When I was. This is crazy. And I'm so much older than, like, when. I realize now that I am. I'm the age. When my mom was my age, she had a middle school kid and a kid on, like, when I graduated high school, my mom was 42. So basically, if I was my mom, I would have a kid graduating high school in six years.
D
Wow.
A
That's wild. That's wild.
C
Imagine a middle schooler running around here, mad angry. A tall ass, skinny, tall noodle walking around the house with a fro.
A
Yeah.
C
Playing video games, thinking he a wrestler.
A
Yeah.
D
Not a wrestler.
C
That is asking for shit. Can I see WWE on pay per view?
A
No.
C
Also, my mom. My mom used to always. I don't know if y' all moms already did this.
A
You got pay per view money?
C
Yeah. If you have money money for that thing, you got some pay per view money. And I'd be like, I may. I don't have. You know, I don't have money.
A
Can I put the lights on to wash the rest?
C
Do you have to put the light.
A
Put the light on money?
D
Right.
C
There was also this video of this I mentioned before. Is this girl, and she's on the couch, and she has a towel tie around her neck. And she goes, I'm Superman. The mom yells, you about to get a super ass whoop. You about to get a super ass whoop if you don't get your ass off that damn couch.
A
So back to the food. So I made a Mac and cheese. Brian, pretty much, he made. He made the turkey, which was delicious. He made the sweet potatoes, which were great.
C
What was the biggest hit of the party? What food was the biggest hit?
A
If you're being honest, I think it was Keoni. He made this fucking grapefruit with an olive. An olive oil cake with a little. With like a. With like a citrus. They are a person of color. Yeah, yeah.
C
Side of the head.
A
And he had, like this, like, citrus, like, drizzle on it. Delicious, baby.
C
It was a. What. What was it? Grapefruit.
A
And it was an olive oil loaf cake. But he just. But the stitches was just a glaze on top of it. So the cake was just a little. Just a little.
C
Monet's obsessed with olive.
A
Olive oil cake is so good. And he was like, olive oil cake is the one from Tender. The one that you really like from Tender. I'm not trying to be funny.
D
Which one? Which one?
A
This one 10 degrees. The olive oil cake that I had.
D
That you had in the.
A
Yeah, and I took it. And last time you ate it.
D
That was delicious.
C
But you see, the way you said that sounded judgmental, right?
A
Because I put my olive oil. This is how I say I put my olive oil cake in the microwave for me to have later. And then I.
D
And I woke up hungry.
A
Well, that's not my problem in your home.
D
And there was nothing there for me to eat. So I hope I happened to open the microwave. And behold, every.
A
When I tell you, not a crumb, a spic, a spackle.
C
Stop.
D
I'm starting to see what you're saying now. Wow. Wow, wow. As it continues. Wow. Wow.
B
You.
D
You did warn me about this.
A
I told you, girl. I told you.
D
You know, I'm a great actress as
C
well, but how's your pantomime?
A
But I tell you this. I really. So.
C
Okay, before you go any further, you know what bothers me? This does bother me.
A
What gets you?
C
Why it bother me? I'm not in the right here. But Monet does not share food. And I hate that.
A
What do you mean?
C
Like you don't share? Like, I tried to get a piece. So last night, Arcia cut this cake and I just wanted.
A
Oh yeah, continue.
C
I just wanted to have the biggest slice out of any one at the party.
A
Okay, Arcia cut me this. Arcia was. First of all, we.
C
This.
A
I realize this is shade and I'm sorry about this. This is this girl's birthday. At her party, all 10 of us made this girl cut her own cake
C
to give to everyone at the party.
D
Why would y' all do that?
A
That was very shady.
D
That was. And so that's why people were getting slices of newspaper at the end.
C
But the red velvet tissue, like get what you get. Monet got a wed. By the end, AR was cutting off the thinnest bible sheet. Bible pages put out one of a little bicle. But Mon had the. A very large slice, three tier cake. I just. And by the. I'm not saying I'm right, but I just wanted one bite. I had to strong arm the cake out of Monet's hands.
D
Just sounds about right.
A
It's my cake and I don't want to share it.
C
I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong, but I just. It bothers me that you don't share your food.
A
Well, if it gags me when there's
C
a full cake that you can have
A
your own slice, why do you want mine?
C
Well, make. Arcea was cutting. She Wasn't cutting real slices.
A
Arcia could have blew a sheet of a slice of cake off to your plate. When I get my thing that I prepared my body for, I want my
D
thing that you prepared your body for?
A
Yes. I was like, I'm going to eat the slice of cake. This is my slice of cake.
C
You don't ever want a piece of someone else's? You don't ever want a piece of someone else?
A
No. And Annie's like, that is not true. When.
D
Even last night when I took a piece of pizza, you was making fun of me because I had the pizza. And he's like, and then you came in the corner. Let me get a little bite. Okay, okay, you do that.
C
So you said never, but actually, you meant.
A
Oh, yeah, you're right.
C
But you actually.
D
You just doing a cut.
A
Annie's like that, too. Annie, thank.
C
Yes, I do.
A
What you doing?
D
You just doing a cut?
C
Monet.
A
What I do in the cut?
D
Yes.
C
I'm not trying to.
D
Yes, you do.
C
Garcia, thank you so much. Yes, you do.
D
And I have a story.
C
So this happened. I cannot remember who the person was laughing, but this Monet swords it. I'm telling you this. We were on tour. I don't know. I feel like. I feel like it was in the UK.
A
Not true.
C
In my mind, it was in the UK and Monet. We went to McDonald's. Monet had a. A, a salad. I'm telling you, Monet had a salad on the table. And Monet was, like, bragging about eating his salad. We were all eating, like, nuggets and salads. But then we look and Monet had under the table in her lap. That is not chicken tender.
D
I truly believe that. I truly.
C
I deeply believe that Monet would eat the salad. And then when would look at. She would go. She would go, that does not.
D
And you want to know how I know that's true? Because Bob mentioned that before. He's saying the exact same story right now.
A
Yes.
C
And then one time, we had had those. The secret tenders that. And me and my friend were like this chicken turtles.
A
That is not true.
D
And then one time, we had to sing at a show for Dwan in Philadelphia. And we were hungry out, but we were going to eat after the show. So the restaurant was closed, and they were getting. The bus boys were getting the plates off the table. There was one plate they had yet to get. Kevin literally took a plate. He literally took a chicken finger off a plate that people had already eaten off of and. And offer me a piece. Now I Did take it. I did take it, but you took it first.
A
Arcia is literally flipping the script to Kosei Bob. Arcia was lost. My heart.
D
Hope to die. That is what you did.
A
She was deep in her wants and desires for fried chicken.
D
No, you were deep in your wants
C
and desires last night. You in the corner and a piece of pizza, secret bite of pizza.
A
We were all sitting there.
D
No, we weren't. No, we weren't.
C
Dejuan, why was your.
A
Dejuwan.
C
Hold on. Hold on one second. Hold on. Let me say the question fairly. I'm gonna ask the question fairly.
A
Dejuan, you're on speaker. You're on the podcast.
C
Oh, okay.
A
So do you remember? Well, we remember when we went to your show in Philadelphia in college, and we were at that restaurant, what is it called? Sleepy Joe's or.
D
I forget. Well, you had to sing.
A
What? You had to sing a week. We came to support you.
D
We sang back up.
A
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, that place in Philly. Warm Daddy, Warm Daddy. Sugar Daddies, Warm daddy. Whatever it was. So we're sitting there at the table. Do you remember when there was. We were sitting at the table and there was a table that was not bust. And there was a. There was, like, fried chicken.
D
Who took the chicken? Tender Dawan.
A
Who was it?
D
Who took it?
A
Was it me or IC who took it?
D
I think it was. I said, did you take. Why would you say that? No, can we. Can we. Can we let him speak? Please, can we let him speak? What did you just say? You're not listening.
A
So hungry.
D
No, you're not listening. Dejuan, what did you just say?
A
I said I don't remember.
D
You don't remember because it was Kevin, like a thief in the night, took the chicken thing and gave me a piece. Thank you, dejuan, for honesty.
C
We love you. Like a thief in the night, Arcia,
A
she was so overcome by her die for fried chicken.
D
He took the chicken tent.
C
It was from another table.
D
Yes, yes, I ate off of it.
A
Arcia smelled the chicken grease, and she was so overcome with delight and joy that she lead it over to that fucking plate.
D
You are literally making this story up.
A
You are crazy.
D
Kevin. Kevin, you were literally looking at the plate, salvating at the mouth, and whisked over to the thing and then came
C
back in the corner, gave me, like, swiper. Swiper? No, swiper.
A
Anyway, so I would've did this. So, Arcia, I say this. I really think, Arcia, we need to get Arcia into some type of reality TV or still Would be great television.
D
I would.
C
Are you thinking like, like, like a, like a competition style show or like
A
a real world, A real, A real world type thing?
C
Did you hear what happened on the Surreal Life?
A
No.
C
Girl, what's the entanglement? Jada. Jada.
A
Oh, he came out. Yeah, he has.
D
But was that an official come out?
C
It was, it was.
D
I don't think it was official.
C
It was very Jodie Foster. It was very. It was giving Jodie Foster the weight. The way, the weight.
A
He said, he's like, I have a lover I love.
C
No. He said, this person taught me about love and joy, and this person taught me how to love someone. And then he bought them in.
D
And when he, that's what they said.
C
The way he hugged him, I was like, what?
D
How was the hug?
C
I mean, it was like this. I was like, I was kind of like, kiss him. Kiss him on the mouth.
A
It's not his brother. Is he his, like his, I don't know.
D
I read them on Twitter. It could have been, you know.
A
Oh, okay. Yeah, I saw his name again. August. Alsina.
C
August. Yes, yes, yes.
A
Yeah. So we, I, I, I want to petition to get RC on Big Brother. I think you'd be great on Big Brother.
D
What is Big Brother?
C
Big Brother.
D
I just, Please don't look at me crazy. I have no idea what it is.
C
Big Brother is a show where there it, there is competition, but none of it's, none of it's real. Like, it's all, like, puzzles and some endurance stuff.
D
Okay.
C
It's really all about trying, but it's really all about trying to play this social game.
D
Okay.
C
Where you can convince people that you should be in the house. You form alliances and stuff.
D
Got it. Okay.
C
And you want to be the last one in the house.
A
Yeah.
C
The show has actually become, like, very racially motivated in the past, like, two seasons. It's been like.
A
Because during the. Yeah, well, because during the pandemic, everyone was watching a lot of Big Brother and Survivor, and people are like, well, for years people have been saying that these shows are racist and they, they always get the black consensus out first. They always get the queers out first. So ABC and B C. What? NBC. What? But they're under, they're under the NBC thing. So they made an. No, cbs. That's what it is. So they made. So they made an initiative during the pandemic, especially with all, like, the black, the BLM stuff in January 2020, I mean, June 2020, to make an initiative to make sure that they cast at least 50 black folk, but people of color and. And queer folk. So with them having more black people, they're like, you know what? Now it's our turn, right? We're gonna be in an alliance, and we're not sending no black people home. So the black people make it to the finale.
C
Monet. When Monet was on Drag race, her top four, her season was 75% white. Because of you. Because you didn't make it to the finale. How do you feel about that? Because you didn't make it to the final season 10. The top four was 75 white.
A
Oh, my God. But we had the biggest.
C
You could have actually made sure there was more black people. But you. You chose to do what? You chose to do what? You chose to come out in that Armageddon look.
A
And I fucking turned it, honey. Given the best lip sync in Drag
C
Race herstory, period, you could have actually made sure that there was more. But you chose well. You know, and I'm very grateful to Naomi Smalls and Monique Hart for making sure that on All Stars that the top four was mostly. Was mostly. Oh, my God.
A
All Stars top four was.
C
And I thank Monique and Naomi and,
A
you know, and then the numbers went down in All Stars 7. It was 50, 50. It was me and Jinx. 50 white, 50 black.
C
I'm saying my season, the top four was all people of color, all 75% black. 75%, but a capital black. Me, Chichi, Naomi. Now, you discount Naomi because she's mixed.
A
Oh, my God, you're such a. You're a demon. You're a demon. You are. You are a worker of iniquity.
C
You're not iniquity. Inigrity. First of all, you call. You call me inigrity because Naomi is mixed race. She's not black. Now, can you affirm that she's black? And the microphone.
A
Naomi is 100% black, and we all know that.
C
Oh, that's 100% black. So you deny her up.
A
Yeah, yeah, Fuck that. White, 50%. She all black. Especially where it counts. Oh, her brain, her mind.
C
I mean, we have heard that Naomi is swinging.
A
She's very smart.
C
I mean, she doesn't. She doesn't. Her song.
A
And I'm hung like a mother Tucking baseball, baseball bat shredding all night getting
C
it right what the hell is an appetite?
A
See your next line.
C
Passion love is what I crave Bitch, I'm here.
A
Yes, I'm brave Honestly, Monique.
C
Monique. I mean, Mo Hearts verse.
A
Took some time to love myself and embrace them.
C
The way she sings it just Sounds so good. I was into her ep, both of them, actually. And they're really a little Jesusy for me, but still really just like, great music.
A
That same person, last night, I received his party, they had a moment. They were like, really, like, speaking over your life. It felt.
D
Oh, the same person.
C
When you said you were 33, and they were like, the Jesus birthday. And then it got all Jesusy. And when I was. I was like, y. It is getting wild up in here, honey.
D
It was wild.
A
It was a wild shots.
D
It was. And I'm not a drinker, so I just was like, this is too much.
A
Let me tell you something. Ar Bob Arcia will have a thimble of ginger ale.
D
It's not a thimble.
A
And you cannot tell her. She know. She's like, y', all, I'm drunk. I don't know how to do this.
D
I'm like, I know my body. I know my body. I. I'm not a drinker.
C
You're a lightweight.
D
I'm a very much a lightweight.
C
Can you. Can you hold your liquor?
A
Oh, yeah. All my friends, like.
C
Like, how many. Like, like, how many drinks can you take from. Be like, damn, this like.
A
Like what we're drinking? Just regular cocktails.
C
Yeah, cocktails.
D
Yeah.
A
Like about six or seven.
D
Really?
A
Yeah.
C
Jesus.
A
I think. I just think I. I think what we.
C
This, I believe the money used to throw them back and drive all the way back to Brooklyn, endangering everybody's life on the George Washington Bridge.
A
My body metabolism metabolizes alcohol. I think drugs really fast.
C
Do you still drink and drive, or do you leave that back in the air?
A
Only on weekends. Got it. Yeah. Only on the weekends. Monday through Friday, I make sure I don't do it. But Saturday, Sundays, oh, you know, balls to the wall. Whatever happens, happens.
C
The LA traffic actually is not that bad. I was in Atlanta. Like, y' all cannot drive.
A
LA drivers or traffic.
C
The drivers are like. They're pretty good, actually.
A
People complain about LA traffic. And I know, yes, there is traffic here, but I feel like the traffic in New York is.
C
But I didn't ever. I never. I mean, you drove. I rarely ever experienced it. Rarely ever experienced.
A
At least in la you're in traffic, but you're going a distance in New York to get from 10th Avenue to 1st Avenue, that can take you 45 minutes.
C
And that's what you don't realize. Manhattan is five miles wide.
A
It's very. It's very.
C
Literally, at some point, it is two miles wide.
A
Yeah.
C
Being in a cab, driving across Town is the worst experience. If you're going downtown or uptown, that's fine. But trying to go across and. And don't try to get from one side of the park to the other side of the park. It's gonna take you an hour to go five avenues.
A
Yeah. It's crazy madness. Yeah, it's really, really, really.
D
You're better on foot.
C
You ever thought you were? You. You were like, man, I'm getting out and you walk in. The car passes.
A
Yeah.
C
You feel like I'm walking. You got. Drop me off right here.
A
Yeah.
C
And the car just zooms right past
A
you, right by you.
C
I look dumb as hell. I look dumb as hell. Trying to pass. Look as dumb as hell. If I could afford. When I get some more dollars, I'm gonna get me an apartment in New
A
York where maybe I'll just rent a room where. Do you go to New York that often? Second, do you go to New York that often to justify that?
C
I think I would go to New York more often if I had a place there. You know what I mean? And the money I spent on hotels.
A
Right.
C
Hotels in New York are expensive.
A
So, Stokes.
D
Yes.
A
I'm so happy to have you here on the podcast. I really. I mean, I. Bob Arcy really wants to get into entertainment, but she just doesn't have an. An avenue.
D
Yeah, that's true.
A
My goal is to help her get into entertainment.
D
Thank you.
C
Well, I think. I mean, well, you have the podcast. Is it by yourself or is it with a friend?
D
It's by myself.
C
By yourself. I don't even think myself. Can I do a podcast by myself? Like, I. Do you have guests on, or do you?
D
I do. Sometimes I have guests, and sometimes I do it alone.
C
Can you tell us about it?
D
Yeah. So the name of my podcast is A Note from Stokes. My last name is Stokes. And we talk about a lot of things regarding black and brown millennials. So dating situationships, careers, family trauma. So we just kind of talk through real life issues that affect black and brown millennials.
C
We should connect Arcia with the ladies of lemonade and tea.
A
Oh, yeah.
C
Because they also have a great podcast, and they're probably listening right now. Probably love to have you as a guest.
D
Yeah, I'm here.
C
Also. Ocean Kelly has a podcast. Ocean Kelly has a podcast. It's kind of like ebbs and flows. It's not. It's like they do a couple of seasons, a couple of, you know, little seasons. Got it here and there, which is also phenomenal. And now you're on this podcast and you're phenomenal. Are you doing. Are you thinking about getting like into music or are you thinking about getting into acting or.
D
Honestly, I just want to do it all, you know, I have the personality. Like I want to sing, I want to act, I want to just do it all.
C
Do you want to?
D
I used to, but not so much. So we're both classically trained, but I don't really sing it anymore.
C
Yeah, I know there are a lot of people who get degrees in. In performance. Like our friend Nick has a master's degree in vocal performance from the Manhattan Music rc.
A
Is getting a doctorate right now.
C
Are you back in school right now?
D
I am. I'm getting a doctorate. I have one more year left. But I don't. I just got. I'm just getting a degree. So like, if what I really want to do doesn't work out, I have something to fall back on.
C
So would you start teaching or something?
D
Well, I already told. I don't even want to go back in the classroom anymore. So if I were to teach because I was teaching elementary, it would be on a collegiate level with actually like adults.
C
What about private coaching?
D
I do that already.
C
Cuz I need some help.
D
Oh, well.
C
And I have a friend who needs some help too. I have a friend who's a little pitchy sometimes. If you take recommendation anyway.
A
And I see also wants to move to la.
D
I do, but I just can't up and move, you know, I want to have things in place.
C
Yeah, I mean that makes. I will say when I moved to your city, when I tell you I just up and move. I just got up and just was
D
like to New York or la.
C
To New York. Got it, got it, got it. I was also very young.
A
Young. When you're 22, no fear.
C
The more you, y' all realize this in life as you get older, you realize each time you move it is harder and harder because you just keep accruing more and more and more things. And then by the end it is like, oh my God.
A
Moving is a.
C
Like Monet is about to move into a home in the summer. And then the stuff you said you have. I mean, actually, I think your place is actually probably a little bit smaller than the place you have now.
B
Now.
C
Or is it bigger?
A
I can't really wait. What?
C
They're about the same size your current place and your new place about.
A
No, it's like. It's like 500, just 500ft more.
C
Yeah, well, you mean with ADUs?
A
No, no, no, just the actual.
C
Oh, is it. I Mean your current place? Oh, I guess the. The bottom level.
A
The bottom is mine. Yeah.
C
It's just that.
A
Yeah.
C
But, like, once you like. Because we were hanging out with Colman Domingo at his house, and I was like, if you were ever to move, this would be insane. And even me, at this point, I'm like, this is too much to move. Because my dream, y', all, is one day I want to. Soon, actually, hopefully next year or 2024, is to take this studio you all are watching here and move it. I'm trying to get money to get a professional space. I started seeing some. Some. I saw some places recently. I was walking. I went for a walk yesterday. I started calling people and being like, what's up with this place? I really want to get me money.
A
I want us to have a storefront. You love going on a walk? You love going on a walk?
C
I love a walk. Walk. Do you like walking?
D
I do.
C
I love.
A
You do.
D
I was doing five miles a day this summer. Okay. Yes. Yes. With my Apple watch. Yes. Slight shade, slight mess.
C
How many steps are you at today?
A
I don't know how I'm going. I don't. I don't wear a little. A little Fitbit like, y'. All.
D
No, not Fitbit. Apple watch.
C
I wear a Samsung watch.
D
Okay.
C
You know, first of all, it's a Samsung.
A
I always do that. Samsung droid is the iOS is the OS.
C
It's operating.
D
Yeah.
C
You have an iOS phone. Do you have an iOS what? Your phone is an iOS phone. I have a Samsung, which is a phenomenal phone.
A
It is a good phone.
C
Yeah.
A
Anyway, Andy and Arcia, they were in a fitness battle because they both have Apple watches. You can, like, sync it with someone else. And Andy was flabbergasted that Arcia was beating him every day. He's like, how are you?
D
He was offensive.
C
No, no, not like that.
A
Because.
C
No, no, you're the one who sprinkled it in.
D
Exactly. Andy was like, did you put your watch in the dryer and just run the dryer? So you don't think someone of my size.
A
That's not what he's insinuating. That's not what he's insinuating. Arcia, you're being dishonest.
D
He was completely flabbergasted that I won the challenge. Why? Because I work out, too.
A
Because Arcia would have, like, 39,000 steps.
D
Because I would work out twice a day. I would do five miles in the morning and get on my peloton in the evening. So I was constantly working on it. So I was like, big bodies move.
C
Oh, my God.
A
No one's.
C
I'm with our family.
D
Thank you.
C
We were. We were at Monet's place, and. And we were like, as we were leaving, me and Andy played Mercy. Now, Andy is a very, very strong. He's. He's large. He has, like, a lot of muscles, and he goes to gym a lot. But I'm always like, I'm just someone who just. I'm just naturally very strong. I don't. I don't work. I don't work out that. I mean, I would go for a walk. I don't lift weight. I'm just a big, strong person.
A
But you are from a strong stock, honey.
C
I mean, same. If you see my family, we are just big people. It was so funny. I have this great video of Rose Ritz, Jacob's mom, who is. How tall is your mom?
A
5.
C
She's 5. 3. Talking to my Uncle Steve, who is 6.
A
4.
D
Wow.
C
There's a video of her looking. I mean, looking up while. And it's so funny because it's literally him explaining to her how to season food. Really? It's literally a video of my Uncle Steve teaching her how to season food. It is hilarious. The context of it. But we played Mercy, and I was like, I'm very strong with Andy.
A
This is Andy.
C
Yeah. No, with Rose Ritz. And I was like, I'm probably gonna win Andy. And Andy was incredulous. He was like, what did y'. All. How did you. I was like.
A
I mean, within. Within like a few seconds.
C
Yeah. I was like, you gotta just do the blah, blah.
A
But Andy's gonna. He's gonna get that grip strength up, and he gonna whoop on you.
C
I'm embarrass your boyfriend again. And we can do it on camera next time, honey. We can do it on camera, honey. I'm gonna get my little groupies. Do my little finger crunches too.
A
So we went to Orlando for andy's birthday, and R.C. and Dejuan came. And then Brian, Andy's friend Brian came. So we're at. We're at this restaurant, and R.C. is like, I want to get a pic.
D
Why do you tell the most humiliating stories? Why do you. You get. You get. You get a kick out of this.
A
She's like, y'. All. She's like, y', all. I just get a picture of my outfit. So we're like, all right, girl, go stand in front of this. In front of this.
D
A container of meats.
C
Okay.
D
A container of meats.
A
And and so. And you as. And you as you as the queen of meats, I felt like it would be nice for you to go by be amongst your queen of meats is standing in front of this. This storeroom freezer full of sausages and hamburgers.
C
Turkey.
D
That's where you all told me to stand. And I did not know at first it was a wall of meats, but
A
you guys knew, so we took the picture. And it's just. Arcea looks like she's raining over.
D
I look like Pumbaa in front of the damn container of me.
C
Do we have the picture now, Mom? Can we post it?
D
No, we cannot.
A
Can we post.
B
It's cute.
A
You look cute.
D
I do not look cute.
C
Can I see it? Can I personally see it?
D
I don't have it anymore. I burnt it.
C
Mona is my screensaver. It's Monet's lock screen.
D
I need to humiliate me.
C
It is my lock screen. Honey, it's giving lock screen. You let us post it RC it.
D
Sure. Oh, my. And Bob is really. Wow. Wow. I look.
A
Bob.
D
Let me see.
C
You look great.
A
You look great in front of a locker of meat.
D
I am mortified.
C
It's only funny. I would have never.
D
Salami, turkey, sausage and necks and gizzards. And y' all just put me right there.
A
Raining over your kingdom. All right, see, this has been a very. This has been a great pleasure having you here at Sivan Rivalry.
D
Thank you so much. I've enjoyed my. So tickled.
C
That was my first time seeing it. It's so shitty. Arcia, thank you for joining us on something.
A
Rivalry. Where can people find you? Arcia.
D
So you can find me on Instagram. Arcia Stokes. You can also find my podcast on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, Google Play. A note from Stokes.
A
A note from Stokes.
C
And maybe. Maybe you'll see two. I want two separate. Two separate episodes. I don't want to do a joint episode.
D
Absolutely.
C
Yeah. I'll do mine and then. And it will be the most listened to episode. And then yours will be in second place. It won't mark my. I'm telling y'. All, mark my words. When we do our separate. I. I bet you a dollar mine will be the most viewed episode.
A
It won't. Just like you thought about why won't you date me? And guess who, between you and me has more listings.
C
Honey, I don't know if that's true.
A
Ask Nicole Byer.
C
Honey, we have the Internet.
A
Ask Nicole Byer.
C
Let's see. Why won't you date me? Pod. Honey, what's my little. The meat Locker.
D
The Meat Locker.
C
Okay, we will find out about the why won't you date me episodes down the line here.
B
We will.
A
All right.
C
Well, also, you were talking about getting on.
A
I mean, no, that was. That was Trixie and Ponas, which was the most listened of that one, too.
C
That's. That's not true. That. It's.
D
All right.
C
Bye, everyone.
A
Bye, y'. All.
Date: November 30, 2022
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Guest: Arcia Stokes
In this lively and joyfully chaotic episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change welcome Arcia Stokes, Monét’s longtime college best friend, to Sibling Rivalry. The trio dives into hilarious friendship dynamics, memories from Westminster Choir College, cultural pride and family traditions, holiday food extravaganzas, and aspirations in entertainment. Along the way, they roast each other mercilessly, reminisce about their group’s shenanigans, and share plenty of shade and heart.
The episode is high-energy, brimming with rapid-fire banter, playful shade, and affectionate jabs. The trio’s chemistry is infectious—the roast sessions never get mean, always rooted in longstanding love and history. Listeners get an authentic look at queer friendship, chosen family, and the intersection of Black and Caribbean cultural experience in America.
Bob and Monét continue their ever-competitive sibling rivalry—jockeying for future podcast guest spots and shade-bragging about downloads—ultimately closing out with lots of laughter and love for their guest.
This episode is a must-listen for fans of Sibling Rivalry’s signature blend of wit, heart, and shade—and for anyone who enjoys stories of friendship, culture, and queerness.