The One With Bob's Mom

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One With Bob's Mom" (July 31, 2023)

Episode Overview

In this lively and heartfelt episode, Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change invite Bob’s mom, Martha Caldwell, for a candid, funny, and personal conversation. They riff on generational differences, Black family traditions, sibling hijinks, and the quirks that make their families unique. Amid the familiar sibling teasing, the trio offers listeners a window into their family dynamics, Southern Black culture, and the priceless humor of moms. There are digressions about the SAG-AFTRA strike, Drag Race, culinary traditions, childhood mischief, and a laugh-out-loud roast of cat aesthetics—plus, Bob’s mom steals the show with her wit and warmth.

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Key Topics & Discussion Highlights

1. SAG-AFTRA Strike & Hollywood Greed

• (06:00–08:15) The duo vent their frustration with entertainment execs refusing union demands.
  • Bob: "For these fucking executives...to meet the demands of SAG and WGA...they only have to give up 2% of their earnings? 2%?" (07:01)
  • Monét: "Two percent of a billion. Hey, Google, what's 2% of a billion?...$20 million. That's wild." (07:28–07:40)
  • Both mockingly take on the persona of rich execs and call out industry greed.
  • Memorable Quote: "[Sigh] It's fucking infuriating. It's so maddening that these fucking people just want to be greedy." – Bob (07:59)

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2. Family Legends, Upbringing & Generational Humor

• (15:52–29:00, 32:33–34:33, 38:44–46:50) When Martha Caldwell joins, stories pour out:
  • Siblings Sticking Together: Monét recalls elaborate schemes with brother Justin to cover up mischief—broken objects, holes in walls—highlighting a code of loyalty. (27:00)
  • Mother’s Quick Wit: Bob credits his sense of humor to Martha. She says: "I get a lot of people tell me I need to be in stand up." (18:04)
  • Generational Shifts: Discussions about being a Boomer or Gen X, family migration through various Southern cities, and what counts as "from Atlanta." (16:54)
• Speech Impediments and Owning Flaws
  • Bob: "My speech impediments do not define me. I define them." (15:29)

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3. Cultural Foodways & Cooking Traditions

• (09:29–15:06, 65:06–66:30)
  • West Indian/Caribbean Roots: Cassava, breadfruit, and pemmy pammy are discussed ("our version of a tamale"). (10:43)
  • Family Cookbook Ideas: Monét jokes about a "Sweet as St. Lucia" cookbook. (09:39)
  • Household Cooking Habits: Bob and Monét compare how they learned (or didn't learn) to cook. Martha confirms she's a good cook "but won't do it every day.” (66:25)
    • Bob: "When I cook, I just cook by feeling. I don't ever use instructions." (65:24)
    • Monét: "I like ordering food for people and watching them enjoy what I order." (65:53)

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4. Drag Race Memories & Industry Shade

• (12:17–13:48, 20:47–22:04, 38:51–39:35)
  • Recollections about All Stars, differences between queens, mom’s opinions on Drag Race appearances.
    • "I'm done, Ma. I'm done. I'm not doing that show ever again." (38:41)
  • The duo roast fellow queens (Trinity, Thorgy), and shade their own social media habits.

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5. Cats, Phobias & Hilarious Animal Tales

• (44:20–47:48)
  • Paralyzing Fear of Cats: Martha details being "trapped" in her house by a cat: "I am trapped in my house. I'm an hour late for work...there's a cat on my porch." (44:24–44:43)
  • Junior’s Cat Chase: Her adult cousin, Junior (28, 6ft), was chased by a cat—and it’s caught on video. (46:26)
  • Bob: "These cats will turn on you and they will like, dig their claws into you. Now this cat is latched onto your side, you can't shake it off you." (46:35)
  • Monét's Cat Dissed: When shown a photo of Monét's hairless cat:
    • Martha: "I promise you that cat ugly as hell. I can't even stand to look at it!" (47:17)

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6. Black Family Reunions & Kinship

• (64:45–65:15)
  • Hundreds at Reunions: "It'd be over 100 people…sometimes be almost 200." – Martha (64:54)
  • Traditions: Everyone brings food; not everyone is a chef. (65:11)

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7. Sibling Rivalry & Childhood Mishaps

• (28:07–29:02, 43:18–43:42)
  • Bob reveals he once got five stitches after his brother sliced his finger—with a sense of familial secrecy about the real cause.
    • Monét: "Were you not telling ‘cause you were afraid of him getting in trouble?" (28:29)
    • Bob: "I didn't want him to get in trouble." (28:35)
  • Martha tells a story of running track as a surprise talent after being convinced to try out: “I made the track team, and she didn’t…fastest girl on the team.” (31:56)

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8. Roasting Each Other & Memorable One-Liners

• Bob and Monét bring their signature banter, but Martha jumps in:
  • On being tired: "You act like you're sleeping, Monet. What's up? You acting like you're tired." – Martha (61:20)
  • On looking rough: "Yeah, let's talk about the bags under the eyes." – Monet (61:28)
  • On Monét's cat: "That cat ugly as hell." – Martha (47:17)
  • On Drag Socials: "You look like a black Republican." – Monét to Bob (02:14)
  • On broken objects: "Me and Justin would collude, kahoot, and work together to hide everything from our mother." – Monét (27:00)
  • On family communication: "[In this family] Everyone just sits in the same room, talk on the phone, talk to different people. And I don't know how they're able to even process like that. It's a lot for me." – Monét (57:14)

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9. Parenting and Sacrifice

• Martha discusses how she was a working mother with several jobs, and how Monét lived with aunts and uncles during different school years (67:15–68:02).
• The episode ends with both drag queens expressing love and gratitude to their mothers for unconditional support—even when their own social media is "a little salacious." (68:54)

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• Bob: "My speech impediments do not define me. I define them." (15:29)
• Monét: "This could be my hair." (about her mom's wig, 19:28)
• Martha (on Monét's cat): "That cat ugly as hell." (47:17)
• Bob (on being a top 0.01% earner): "I, as the top .01% in this country, am willing to give up 2% of my earnings for these fucking weak, poor bitches." (08:20)
• Martha (on growing up with many siblings): "If you could find a corner...lay down and go to sleep. Lights could be on. People be in the room talking. I don't care." (57:49)
• Monét (on family phone chaos): "Everyone just sits in the same room, talk on the phone, talk to different people. And I don't know how they're able to even process like that." (57:14)
• Bob (on his family hiding mischief): "Me and Justin would collude kahoot and work together to hide everything from our mother." (27:00)
• Martha (on family secrets): "You don't even see Monet on tv." (38:30)
• Martha (on family cooking): "Yeah. I won't do it every day, though." (66:25)

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Segment Timestamps

• SAG-AFTRA strike, labor, and industry greed: 06:00–08:15
• Intro of Martha Caldwell, family background, generational humor: 15:52–21:20
• Food and family cooking, cookbook idea: 09:29–15:06; 65:06–66:30
• Sibling secrets, growing up, discipline: 27:00–29:02
• Family migration, Southern Black culture: 42:44–43:42
• Roasting Monét’s (hairless) cat: 47:07–47:51
• Martha's stories about track & childhood: 31:56–32:08
• Phone chaos and family togetherness: 57:14–58:07
• Closing reflections & banter: 68:54–71:37

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Tone and Takeaways

• Warm, teasing, unfiltered, and affectionate.
  • No subject is off-limits; self-deprecating humor and family love dominate.
  • Martha Caldwell is the MVP guest, quick with jokes and the wisdom of lived experience, holding her own with two expert comics.
• For Listeners: If you want an authentic portrait of Black family humor, Southern traditions, and queer kinship—with sharp wit and genuine warmth—this episode is essential Sibling Rivalry.

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For Fans / First-Timers: Why Listen?

• Get unfiltered tales and social commentary—with an extra helping of maternal shade.
• Laugh out loud as Bob, Monét, and Mama Caldwell roast each other, reminisce, and reflect on everything from drag to growing up Black in the South.
• The episode is a masterclass in comedic storytelling, generational dialogue, and the universal language of sibling and parent-child rivalry.

Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Martha Caldwell]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Martha Caldwell]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

that I wouldn't get my new contacts

[Monet X Change]

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[Martha Caldwell]

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[Monet X Change]

I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, sorry.

[Martha Caldwell]

Namaste.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Monet X Change]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm Monet X Change. And this is sibling rivalry. On today's episode, we talk about the SAG AFTRA strike.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We chit chat with Bob's mom.

[Monet X Change]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My speech impediments do not define me. I define them. Okay. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Monet X Change]

Junior is 28 years old, 6ft tall, running from. Running from a cat. We found out what made my mom say this.

[Martha Caldwell]

You act like you're sleeping. Monet. What's up? You acting like you're tired.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made my mom. Oh, wait, she's not here. So there's this. So the fans do this thing where they will combine our talking heads from Drag Race. Who is your thoughts combined with Thorgy?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, how?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think I've probably seen. I don't remember it, but they put mine with Eureka. And I think this shit looks so crazy.

[Monet X Change]

You look like a black Republican. Tell me that nigga's not a black Republican. Tell me that it's not a black Republican.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl. Marika said blue lives matter, honey.

[Monet X Change]

Marika. I can't find mine. One of my friends sent it to me a while back and I remember, like. I remember like, getting and being like, oh, Lord, not this, but yeah, I always get combined with Thorgy, and for whatever reason, people get a tickle out of me as Thorgy or. I don't know if it's Thorgy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it cute?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, not really. I mean, I wouldn't want to look like this in real life. You know what I mean? But if there is a person out there who. Who happens to look like that, I just want you to know that you're beautiful in your own way. I just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to be your own way. Not in your own way. Just.

[Monet X Change]

Just not for me. I. I just don't personally want to look like I'm trying to find it, but it's going to take me forever to find it. But you can keep talking about why I try to find it. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of that picture. I think. I mean that. I mean, eureka. All of them always look so. So interesting. But that one is like, woof, girl. I can't.

[Monet X Change]

I think I. It is the. What do you call it? The. When it's the uncanny valley.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's that again? You explain uncanny valley when it looks

[Monet X Change]

like it's real, but it's not like it, like. Like a robot. Like if a robot looks a little too human. That's when you get into the uncanny valley.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love when you said on the podcast and people, everyone was like, duh, Monet. Like, I should have. Like, I should have heard the term uncanny valley before. That's not something you hear every day.

[Monet X Change]

Well, people on the Internet like to act like. Because they know something everyone in the world should know. I mean, you know how people be. Girl, folks be acting like they know what I hate when. When someone gets wind of a word or a term for the first time ever, and they act like they've always known about it. They use it like. Like it's been part of their vocab since. Since day one. That drives me. I don't know why I hate that so much, but it drives me crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And half the people that probably. They probably heard you say in the podcast, and they looked it up and they were like, duh. Everyone knows that. You didn't know it. Don't be lying.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I cannot find the picture of me and Storey. I'm sure the fans are going to all tag. Tag me and the. The Borgi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Borgi.

[Monet X Change]

The Borgi picture. But it's. It's somewhere on the Internet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thor.

[Monet X Change]

It exists. If. If. If you. If you really want to find it bad enough, you. You will find the picture of me and Thorgy as one unit or whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Remember this dance? Is this a cabbage patch?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, that's a cabbage patch. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't. What?

[Monet X Change]

Yo, you were thinking about old dances. Can y' all see that? I can see it. I'll send it to you in the group chat. Honestly, this is low key. Funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's cute. Like dances from the 90s. Like, who was like, okay, this is the new dance.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know if the cabbage patch is from the 90s. Is it from like the. I feel like the cabbage patch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

80s, 80s, maybe.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, I don't. To be honest, I don't. I don't actually know when the cabbage is from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But the Running man actually looks cute. The chicken noodle soup is a fun dance. The Harlem Shaker is a good one. But like, like, you remember, like the ones from the 50s, like the washing machine.

[Monet X Change]

Like, why would I. Why would I remember? I'm like, okay, I'm kidding. When I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you get this not. Not look like you back in the day? You remember. Y' all remember old podcast. But this is Bob every five minutes.

[Monet X Change]

It wasn't that long ago. But yeah, sometimes the focus. So you put your hand by the camera and then you just. You have to slowly pull your hand back and you have to like, meet your hand. So the camera focuses on both you at the same time. It's usually because there's something behind you that the camera's trying to focus on. So I think also if you sit directly in front of this drawing, it'll probably stop happening.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the other day Bob and I went. We went protesting. Cause we're both sag. And afterwards we took a picture. And I will say this is one feature that the Android has that I do think is very cool. Because we were taking it on the thing. We put the camera on the thing. Well, no one compressed the thing. So you go like this and it takes a picture for you. That is a very cool invention. I think it's very cool.

[Monet X Change]

I have a Samsung phone and an Android phone. I think that also I want to be clear that everyone. I don't know what I said the other day where someone was like Bob admitting to scabbing. I was not. I was not doing a. Whatever I said I was doing. I was. I was not. I was not doing a union gig. I was not in these streets doing any union gigs. I have. I'm there. There are no. There are no union gigs right now. There. There are no. I was not filming any union gigs. So, no, I was not scabbing everyone. Have you heard that a 24 is the only. Have you heard that at 4 is the only studio that has accepted the union?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean Jenny. And they are a small company and do you know, for these fucking executives For Disney and all these people to meet the demands of SAG and Wigga. Oh, my God, not Wigga. WGA. That they only have to give up 2% of their earnings. 2% of their earnings?

[Monet X Change]

Well, when you're making billions, that's a lot to you. Two percent of a billion. Hey, Google, what's 2% of a billion?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's 2. It's $2 million, girl.

[Monet X Change]

That's a lot of money. I mean, but if you have a billion, though. No, it's 20. 20 million is 2% of a billion. That's wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they can't give. But I'm saying you can give up.

[Monet X Change]

I agree, I agree. Give it up. But I'm just like, that's so much money and it's so little. It little to them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's fucking infuriating. It's so infuriating. It's so maddening that these fucking people just want to be greedy. And, you know, they were like, oh, we're just, we're just. We're going to hold it out until. Until people are losing their houses and they. And they can't afford food. We're just going to. We're just going to. We're just going to wait it out

[Monet X Change]

as part of the 1%. Do you have any messages for the other members who are being ridiculous?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen, guys, we have enjoyed our wealth and our riches for far too long. I, as the top.01% in this country, I am willing to give up 2% of my earnings for these fucking weak, poor bitches. And you guys should too.

[Monet X Change]

I was just watching the Sweetest St. Lucia video and I realized you low key paved the way for Rihanna. Do you remember the video of Rihanna being like, trans, non, binary? All the gender appropriation?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't remember. I've never seen this video.

[Monet X Change]

You ever seen Rihanna saying trans, non, binary? All the gender appropriations? You never see this video?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

It just reminded me of when you won St. Lucia. You said, whether you gay, straight, whatever that is, that both men and women and non binary people of all gender appropriations. And the pronouns, everyone is included.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I design.

[Monet X Change]

Can you bring up Monet saying whether you gay, straight? Monet, Listen. Okay, first of all, have you still not sold sweet St. Lucia shirts?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I have my Monat, bitch. I have a Monet. My Monat inserts went popped off. Honey, we sold out in less than 24 hours.

[Monet X Change]

It's a cookbook, okay? You do a cookbook of St. Lucia recipes and you call it as sweet as St. Lucia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ooh, that sounds fun.

[Monet X Change]

What is the St. Lucian dessert, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a good idea. St. Lucia dessert.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think we have. I mean, Jacob will be collecting a percentage. We have. We have it right here on camera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you steal his idea about Saint Lucian dessert, I think it's more like West Indian dessert. They're not. I don't know what a traditional Saint Lucian dessert is. I mean, what's the West Indian dessert? We love a lot of, like, cassava and stuff like that. We love candy. Cassava is like a. It's a. It's a ground provision. But you can make it. They make it like a.

[Monet X Change]

Like a ground provision.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ground provisions. Like breadfruit and.

[Monet X Change]

What's a breadfruit?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're ground provisions, Mona.

[Monet X Change]

You can't. I don't know what a ground provision is. So when I ask you what a ground provision is, and you say it's a dasheen, and they ask you what a dasheen is, you say it's a ground provision. You gotta give me something more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're like. They're like starches. They'll think of, like, potatoes, like, from. Like, they're stuff like, from.

[Monet X Change]

Is it like a plantain?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Plantains are not from the ground. They're grown on trees, like bananas.

[Monet X Change]

They're starches.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but plantain is grown. It's not a grown provision.

[Monet X Change]

It's like a yucca.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, yucca. Well, y' all call it yucca. We call it yucca. We have, like, Pemmy Pammy is like our version of a tamale.

[Monet X Change]

Like. Like it comes, like, in a husk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, no, it doesn't come in. You cook it in that. You. You get.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, you cook it in a husk. Everyone, tamales don't grow on. In corn husk. I don't know if you know. Well, I mean, to our listeners, tamales do not grow in corn husk. You cook them in a corn husk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. A St. Lucia recipe. Cookbook bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a good idea. Food Network. What's up?

[Monet X Change]

What percentage are you gonna give him, Jacob? Nah, nah. Joe Rogan. Yes, Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll give him some. My thanks and my love.

[Monet X Change]

That doesn't seem fair. It doesn't seem fair. Yeah, that seems like Jacob gave you a really good idea and you're gonna pay him and. Huh. You sound like the Disney executives, quite frankly. Tilt your head one more time. If you fucking tilt your head one more time, I'm gonna go through the screen and fucking grab you by your throat. Why do you hate when I tilt

[Bob the Drag Queen]

my head because it is maddening to me.

[Monet X Change]

Also, when I watched the episode with you and Trinity, the fact that she still does that head thing is so funny to me.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

Like, is she aware of it or is she doing it, like, intentionally now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I think. I think it's a tick. I don't think she's aware that she does it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, girl. Oh, yeah, girl. That is so hilarious to me. I live. Trinity has some of the funniest just isms and tics. They're just so funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said this on the podcast and I said it to you before. I really have grown to really enjoy, and I really like Trinity as a person. She's great. I really enjoy Trinity.

[Monet X Change]

How did you feel about her?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How?

[Monet X Change]

What? How'd you used to feel about her?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think when All Stars 4. Like, we didn't. We, like, we got to know each other during All Stars 4. But I thought. I think at our first meeting, competition got the best of Trinity. I think Trinity's aware of that. And I think that, you know, we didn't have the best rapport in doing All Stars, but when All Stars was airing and afterwards, we've been great. But while All Stars was going on and, like, while it had just started airing, we were not.

[Monet X Change]

We were like, let's talk about Thorogy. I feel like when we were together, the competition got the best authority, and then afterwards, the alcohol got the best authority, and then that age got the best authority. Age alcohol. Between age alcohol and then the bitterness. I thought you said. I did not say that. I didn't say that. That's not what I said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know.

[Monet X Change]

I just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Listen.

[Monet X Change]

That's not what I said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I thought. That's what I thought.

[Monet X Change]

And I. But. But I'm just. Just to be clear, I didn't say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be fair, I did a podcast with Lady Bunny, who would work it into almost every bit.

[Monet X Change]

She's wild.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Lady Money is wild. Harvey, do you. Do you follow on Facebook. I mean, Instagram?

[Monet X Change]

What in the. What in the. Auntie and uncle Facebook.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, I might go back. I might go back at this point,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

because I'm on there. I started going back.

[Monet X Change]

Twitter is called X now. I can't. It's a wrap.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, I know. Twitter is. Twitter's wild. That's why I'm like. I thought, oh, my gosh, should we. Should we. Should we have assisted pact and deactivate our Twitters together?

[Monet X Change]

I'm not there yet, but honestly, I'm not far. Let Me post a few more threads. All right, we're gonna take a break and then we'll be back with a very special guest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, they know who it is. They see what the title of the episode.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I'm just. I didn't say Secret Guest. I just said special guest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I want to introduce her.

[Monet X Change]

This ain't like, you know, y' all did this. Y' all did this for a whole season on Secret Celebrity Drag Race, y' all had Loretta Devine talking about something. Hey, everybody. So we can't do it here on the pod. Go ahead and introduce her mom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're not. Ladies and gentlemen. You know what?

[Monet X Change]

Don't take out the. I was going to say what I

[Martha Caldwell]

was going to say.

[Monet X Change]

I was going to take out the one when she stuttered. Keep the stutter in listen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Keep that old take in listen. Myself keeping the Queen's speech. My speech. Impediments do not define me. I define them. Okay, we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to have our extra special guest, which is Ms. Martha Caldwell.

[Martha Caldwell]

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[Monet X Change]

And we're back and black. So we have a special guest in with us today. So I'm in Atlanta at my mom's home, and we are joined by the one and only Ms. Martha Caldwell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ms. Caldwell.

[Martha Caldwell]

Hey, how are y' all doing?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're doing great. We're so happy to have you on a podcast. Can I tell you, we have begged me, as a co owner of this podcast and a fan of you and Bob, we have been begging to have you in the podcast. So this is nice that we finally get to have you.

[Martha Caldwell]

Well, thank you. Thanks for inviting me.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I've had my mom on my YouTube page before if you all want to see me and my mom watch WAP Together.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yes, I remember that. That was a funny video.

[Monet X Change]

We watched WAP Together, which was exciting, right? And if you want to see. If you want to see my mom's reaction, I mean, are you a boomer? Can you Google the year of Boomers?

[Martha Caldwell]

Am I I didn't know I was a boom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought maybe your mom is Generation X. I think generation is Generation X. I think Generation X. I'm more than

[Martha Caldwell]

Generation X. I thought I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think they're the same thing.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh, I guess I'm a boomer.

[Monet X Change]

What year were you born? Okay.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh, that was the years he was talking about.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the. If you're born in those years.

[Martha Caldwell]

Wait, 4000, 664. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

You just. You just made it. You just made it to the. To boomerhood.

[Martha Caldwell]

So.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. So your mom is like me. I'm like. I'm kind of Gen X. I'm kind of. I'm Gen Z and Millennial. Your mom is like Boomer and Gen X.

[Monet X Change]

But. But the. The Gen. The Gen Z's have been dragged. Every time Monet tries to claim to be a Gen Z, they drag her through the. Through the Millennial coals.

[Martha Caldwell]

What's a Gen Z?

[Monet X Change]

Do you know? It's a Gen Z camion.

[Martha Caldwell]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Nevaeh is a Gen Z. Avante is

[Martha Caldwell]

a Gen Z. Oh, no, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't Nevaeh the Generation Alpha? How old is she?

[Monet X Change]

Thirteen, I think that's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's. No, she's Alpha.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know. Is this too much for you?

[Martha Caldwell]

Put it too close to my mouth?

[Monet X Change]

Well, no, you got to be close so they can hear you.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh, okay. All right, I'll speak up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ms. Caldwell, do you think that Bob gets his funny from you?

[Martha Caldwell]

Everybody say that.

[Monet X Change]

It has to be close to your face. Ma.

[Martha Caldwell]

Everybody. You putting too close.

[Monet X Change]

I don't know what to tell you. The mic has to be. See how close it is to my face. The mic has to be close to your face. I love what you say. What?

[Martha Caldwell]

I would take a lick. You take a lick?

[Monet X Change]

Well, you have to hold the mic close.

[Martha Caldwell]

Well, what. What was your question?

[Monet X Change]

Do you think that people. You get my. I get my sense of humor from you.

[Martha Caldwell]

Yes. I get a lot of people say, not that Chris get my sense of humor from me, but I get a lot of people tell me I need to be in stand up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You. You. I feel like you would have been a funny comic anytime I've. I've been with you. You've. You've. Been. You've made very funny jokes, especially my favorite one is about me and watermelon. Oh, Lord, this boy in black who ain't black.

[Monet X Change]

No, because Monet don't like watermelon.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh. I said the same thing about Chris.

[Monet X Change]

I ate watermelon. Oh, I eat it now. I Didn't when I was a kid, though.

[Martha Caldwell]

When he was a kid, he eat watermelon.

[Monet X Change]

I just didn't like the way it tastes.

[Martha Caldwell]

Sweet potato pie either.

[Monet X Change]

I know. I've always eat sweet potato pie. I love sweet potato pie.

[Martha Caldwell]

One of y' all didn't eat sweet potato pie.

[Monet X Change]

That must be your other son, who also don't eat. Who don't eat fish either. Just learning catfish.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love a good fish. See, I don't like catfish. Catfish is a weird fish. I like a salmon. I like a whiting. Bob, what's the inspiration behind this wig today? Why? Why. Why are you getting wiggy with it?

[Monet X Change]

So I got my mom this wig years ago, and she never wore it. She doesn't seem to like it. But then I put it on, and honestly, I think I look really cute in this wig. This could be my hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm into it. But the thing about, like, in the. In the summer when it's hot, like, I think about if I had to wear a wig every day, like, you know, like my mom or my grandma, when they were, like. When it's like. Especially in New York City, it's so hot, I would go crazy. If I had to have a wig on my head, I would go crazy. I already sweat so much as a normal person.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you can also wear your hair. You can wear your wig back so it's not all over your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it's this. It's just this on the head, I feel like is too much.

[Monet X Change]

Well, my mom was just saying. My mom was just saying that she. That she felt. What were you saying about how you felt?

[Martha Caldwell]

Other wigs are too hot outside, and we was too hot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I was just in. I was in. In. In New Orleans. I feel like every time I say New Orleans, I say, like, a freaking. Like, so I'm like, new Orleans.

[Monet X Change]

Is that how you think Southerners say New Orleans?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, they said New Orleans.

[Monet X Change]

No, Southerners say New Orleans. New Orleans. People from New Orleans say New Orleans, but people from. How you say New Orleans, man?

[Martha Caldwell]

New Orleans.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. People from. People from the south say New Orleans, but people from New Orleans say it differently.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, when I was in New Orleans, it was so hot, and it was the Essence Festival, so there are lots of beautiful. I mean, a lot of black people live there, regardless. But specifically at the convention center, like, I mean, it was like 110 degrees. Like, legitimately. 110 degrees. I mean, people had hair. I was like. I could not imagine. I'm seeing, like, the sweat dripping down people's Neck. I'm like, I would have to throw myself into traffic.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I've seen you outdoors in 100 degrees in corset pads, hair, heels.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How often am I in that temperature in drag?

[Martha Caldwell]

Seldom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's only for, like, a second.

[Monet X Change]

I'm assuming those people at the Essence Festival were just, like, trying to look their best.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, absolutely. And I admire it.

[Monet X Change]

But maybe not that often in that kind of weather. Like that, though. I mean, I imagine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I mean, my mom wears a wig to work every day, and she's at work for eight hours a day.

[Monet X Change]

How hot is it in St. Lucia?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

St. Lucia gets hot. It's an island. I mean, you get Island Breeze, so it's a little different. But St. Lucia is hot.

[Monet X Change]

It's not like a drink. Let me get an Island Breeze. Oh, my God. What's in an Island Breeze? Rum.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's like, some type of punch, I

[Martha Caldwell]

think there is a. What they call those things? Waiku name? Island Breeze.

[Monet X Change]

There probably is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There probably is a drink. Let's look it up. I'm looking up the Island Breeze. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

See if you can guess what's in the fridge. Wait, before you. Before you say what it is, I think that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me pull it out first.

[Monet X Change]

An Island Breeze is going to have rum. Is going to have coconut water or. Yeah, coconut water. A splash of pineapple juice and. And. No, pineapple juice and a splash of cranberry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're pretty off.

[Monet X Change]

What. What island breeze.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, it's vodka.

[Monet X Change]

What? In the Island Breeze.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, it's one to two ounces of vodka. Oh, there we go. Vodka, pineapple juice. Oh, no, you are. Vodka, pineapple juice, cranberry juice, and a moschino cherry. I mean, I'm sorry.

[Monet X Change]

Hey, let me get the Gucci cherries. Let me get the moschino cherries.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A maraschino cherry. Ms. Caldwell said you used to own a bar, so did you ever drink?

[Martha Caldwell]

No, I. I've never been a real drinker. I just drink kalu and milk. That was about it. Milk.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it looks not bad, actually. It's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like.

[Monet X Change]

It's like. It was like a coffee kind of.

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah. You drink milk and. Not milk and peach snobs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, milk and peach knobs.

[Martha Caldwell]

No, not milk, Peach knob. Just peach knobs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Yeah, I see that on ice.

[Monet X Change]

One time when I was in high school, my mom came home and she was being so silly, and I was like, mom, what's going on? Like, I have never seen her act that silly. She was just around the house Just like, being goofy. And then she, like, bumped into something. I said, mom, what is happening? And she was like, okay, I had a daiquiri. The way she was like, all right, I had a daiquiri. One daiquiri. Got Ms. Caldwell loose, honey.

[Martha Caldwell]

She was not one, it was two.

[Monet X Change]

I had a decor.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You remember that day?

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, I remember that day. I think it was your birthday.

[Monet X Change]

Why would you drink a decorate.

[Martha Caldwell]

I've been celebrating your birthday. Huh? I don't know. I just did after work one day.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I. I tried to get my mom to. When I was bartending at. At Ruby Tuesday in Columbus, Georgia, at the mall, I was trying to get my mom to drink with me or just have a drink at the bar. And she would. She would never. I think I got her one drink and she pretended to drink it, probably. But I've never seen my mom. I've never seen my mom finish a meal. I've never seen my mom drink. Well, I've seen her take a sip of a drink before. I've never seen her drink a full drink. I've never seen my mom drinks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My mom drinks like we like. It's also just part of the culture. There was just St. Lucia Carnival, and my mom, she has like a whole costume and everything. And they like. They're in the parade with their drinks and everything. My mom is. My mom is a drinker.

[Monet X Change]

Turned up turnt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My mom doesn't get silly. She doesn't. She. She's not like. She's very composed.

[Monet X Change]

What's her drink of choice?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think nowadays it's. It's very standard in St. Lucia. It's like a Roman Coke, a Chairman's and.

[Monet X Change]

Coke a Chairman's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Chairman's. It's like the local rum there, like, that's brewed, that's made in St. Lucia.

[Martha Caldwell]

I tried to drink and never acquired taste for liquor or beer. I tried when I was a teenager.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I don't like beards, but my

[Martha Caldwell]

mama beat that out of me, you

[Monet X Change]

know, cigarettes or weed.

[Martha Caldwell]

Well, I tried weed one time too.

[Monet X Change]

What. What can you tell about your weed experience? Well, how old were you?

[Martha Caldwell]

I was a teenager who was at a house party, and the girls said, try this, try this. She said, you're gonna really love. You're gonna really be. All they do is make you feel real hungry. And I took two puffs off of it, and I never really got hungry, so I thought, this ain't worth it. So I just didn't even do it anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Did you inhale it?

[Martha Caldwell]

I puffed on It.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you have to. You have to take it into your system.

[Martha Caldwell]

Well, I probably know that part. I just. I just. That's all. I just.

[Monet X Change]

Did you feel. Did you. Did you feel cool when you was doing it?

[Martha Caldwell]

No, I felt scary and hope my mom wouldn't catch me. That's what I was feeling.

[Monet X Change]

Did any of your siblings smoke weed when you were younger?

[Martha Caldwell]

No.

[Monet X Change]

No one smoked weed. Oh, wow.

[Martha Caldwell]

Steve probably did. He probably was the only one adventurous enough to do it.

[Monet X Change]

One of my siblings smoke weed.

[Martha Caldwell]

You ain't got but one other siblings. That's your brother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Justin smoked weed when I was joking.

[Monet X Change]

One of my siblings smoke weed. I ain't gonna say who. I ain't no rat, so I ain't gonna say who. But I will say one of my stupid. I grew up with.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Smoke some weed. Were you a rat as a kid? Did you rat out Justin a lot?

[Monet X Change]

No. Me and Justin were thick as thieves. We never ratted on each other.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We.

[Monet X Change]

Me and Justin would work together. We would collude kahoot and work together to hide everything from our mother. We hid that. I broke my bedroom door in Phoenix City until we moved. She didn't know about that until we moved. She didn't know that Justin. One day, Justin was vacuuming, he tripped and his elbow went through the wall. So then me and Justin had to come up with a plan. So we just covered his. So Justin used to love Source magazine, so we just. We just took Source magazine, but the elbow. But the hole was elbow height, so obviously why would one picture be down there? So me and Justin decided to. Came with a plan to just put posters everywhere. I mean, we just ripped up the magazine and put pictures of wrappers and shoes and clothes on every, like random heights of the room. So that. And my mom didn't know until Justin moved out of the house.

[Martha Caldwell]

You talking about when we moved from. When we all moved from Phoenix City?

[Monet X Change]

No, from Cobblestone.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh, from Cobblestone. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I broke one of her. You remember them blue candle holders you used to have? They used to be on that lawn. They had these blue and white candle holders.

[Martha Caldwell]

I can't really remember.

[Monet X Change]

Well, we broke those, glued it back together. You probably never knew about that.

[Martha Caldwell]

All behind my back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

We did not write each other out. Me and Justin were. We were working together. Did you and your brother write each other out?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, he didn't really, but I. I mean, I told you, he like literally sliced my finger open. I had to go to the hospital and get five stitches. And I never told Anyone that he sliced my finger open.

[Monet X Change]

What did you say happened?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like. I said, oh, I was trying to open a can with a knife, and my. And my hand slipped. When he fully had the knife on my finger, I was like, don't move. And then I moved, and he.

[Martha Caldwell]

Like, that was a bit of an ass whooping right there.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Was he. Was he, like, threatening you or, like, were you. Were you not telling him because you were afraid of him or. Or because you were afraid of him getting in trouble?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want. I didn't want to. I did not want him to get in trouble.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you were also low key afraid of him too. I mean, he did. He did have a knife to you and cut your hand open.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, he was playing around, like we were playing around. He was like.

[Monet X Change]

He, like, hilarious. I love your games. Y' all games sound fun. What. What else. What else did y' all play? Punch my brother? Stab my cousin?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, Justin, didn't Justin used to beat you up?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You used to beat him up. Cause you were bigger than him.

[Monet X Change]

No, Justin and I didn't really feel fight.

[Martha Caldwell]

Well, Justin mostly just would try to do stuff to Chris, but Justin would do stuff like. I get y'. All. I think I may have told y' all this story, but if I did, I'll tell you again when. Just when this is the Christmas. Little kids. I don't know what was going on with Justin, but one time I was downstairs, I was cooking. I kept hearing something like, oh. And then I said, what in the world is that? So I just kept on cooking down here. Something. So I said, let me go find out what that is. So when I go. I go up the stairs. When I come around the corner, I see Justin smothering Chris, talking about some. Talk about some, stay on my bed. But what I was hearing was every time Chris pushed just enough off him, that's when he was getting his win to scream. And then put the pistol back down on his face. And then Justin pushed the pillow back. Chris push the pillow back up. So every time I hear, oh, that's crystal, I got to pull off his face to scream. So Chris just was trying to kill Chris. I said, so I said, what are you doing? But I was cussing. I said, what are you doing, Justin? He said, he was sitting on my bed. I said, you gonna kill him because he's sitting on your bed? He got a woman for that.

[Monet X Change]

See, we used to play fun games, too. My name, I want to say over

[Bob the Drag Queen]

my finger, was crazy. Justin was Literally smuggling you.

[Martha Caldwell]

He was smothering him.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah. You. We smother your little brother. Yes, Well, I was too young to fight back then. This. I must. How was I.

[Martha Caldwell]

Probably then you might have been five

[Monet X Change]

and Justin was seven. But by the time I got bigger than Justin. Justin. Justin never tried, like.

[Martha Caldwell]

But Justin, because he's three years old,

[Monet X Change]

Justin would do things. He's two years older than me. Justin, he's born 84. I'm born in 86. So it's like two years and six months.

[Martha Caldwell]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Because Justin was born. Justin's born basically at the beginning of the year. My brother's birthday. My brother's birthday is January 2nd. So Justin's born literally at the beginning of the year. And I'm born right in the middle of the year. My birthday is June 22nd, so I'm born, like, almost right in the middle of the year. And Justin's birthday is right at the beginning of the year. But Justin, when we get older, he would do stuff like hit me and run. Because Justin. Justin was lightning fast. I mean, Justin was just. My mom also, too. My mom was the fastest track student or track star at. In the entire state of K. Track star in the 70s or 80s? 70s.

[Martha Caldwell]

It was in the 80s.

[Monet X Change]

In the 80s.

[Martha Caldwell]

Why you trying to make me older than I am?

[Monet X Change]

No, because then if. If, if, if you were 24 in

[Martha Caldwell]

1986, I was not in high school then.

[Monet X Change]

I was in college. You as a track star?

[Martha Caldwell]

No. Well, when I. What it was, was when I was in junior high, at that time, they had something called junior high. I had. I was in junior high. I was in eighth grade. One of my friends asked me to go out for track, and I said I didn't want to, but then she was telling me, come on, just go out with me. I said, okay, I'll go out with you. And so I was. I made the tracks team, and she didn't. And not only did I make the track.

[Monet X Change]

Her.

[Martha Caldwell]

Not only did I make the track team, I was the fastest girl on the track team. So I ended up being the head of the track team, the fast girl. I didn't know I could run. That's the crazy part about it.

[Monet X Change]

What year did you go to high school?

[Martha Caldwell]

82, 81. 82, 81.

[Monet X Change]

And then you had me five years later. We're gonna go to break. You want you to tell them we're gonna take a break?

[Martha Caldwell]

All right, y', all, we're going to a break. Be right there when we get back, okay?

[Monet X Change]

Okay. And we Are back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My mom played sports. My mom played netball.

[Monet X Change]

Can you just, can you tell you know what that is?

[Martha Caldwell]

What in the world is netball? Is that volleyball?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, it's like. So it's basically basketball without the backboard. So it's like a pole, and there's like a ring around the pole.

[Martha Caldwell]

How you do it get past.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You gotta, like, get it in there.

[Monet X Change]

So every shot is nothing but net.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nothing but net.

[Martha Caldwell]

Make it in or. No, you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you can, you can take it

[Martha Caldwell]

on what you banking it on the pole.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, if you like, like dunk it.

[Monet X Change]

That's not bank.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh.

[Monet X Change]

What's banking is when you hit it off the backboard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, you will know you can't do that.

[Monet X Change]

Can you play basketball on there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I can't even dribble. I try. I, I, I know I'm just meant to be a. Because I just, I cannot do any. I cannot.

[Martha Caldwell]

Straight men can't dribble and play basketball. Justin straight. He can't do a ball.

[Monet X Change]

No, just Justin can play basketball.

[Martha Caldwell]

I said throw a song.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, oh. Softball. Well, I can throw a saw. My mother's gonna have throw softball. I will say this so, you know, I, I feel like I have memories, and Justin will probably deny this, but I feel like I have memories of being better at basketball than Justin was.

[Martha Caldwell]

You were.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you dribble?

[Monet X Change]

I can dribble, Yeah, I can dribble.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can really, like, like through your legs and stuff?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Martha Caldwell]

They really wanted Chris to do better and be on a basketball team, but he didn't want to.

[Monet X Change]

I was the president of the drama club,

[Martha Caldwell]

and Chris was in the middle of school. He. Paula basketball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, you were so tall. Yeah, that would probably.

[Monet X Change]

Or volleyball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You'd probably be like a really valuable volleyball because you're tall.

[Monet X Change]

We didn't really have a volleyball and we had a volleyball team, but no one really, like, I feel like it. I mean, actually, I can't speak for all black schools, but I feel like volleyball wasn't really a thing in my school was football. There was a volleyball team. There wasn't that. We had all the teams. The only thing that people really focused on were the best team, the, the football team and then the band. The marching band.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Martha Caldwell]

I mean, basketball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Say it again.

[Martha Caldwell]

I think Chris could have been real good in basketball. I think he would have went far. But he didn't want us to practice him. He didn't want us to do anything. But they had a little tournament when he was standing zo. He won the tournament. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I Won a three. The three point tournament.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I would have been a good football player. I did. I did JPD football, junior play development football. And I was good. I just didn't. What is that? It's like a thing that the pal. The police something alliance.

[Monet X Change]

You just keep throwing out letters. Oh, it's well, the qvc. Well, when you go by the gop, the DDP will team up with Elementop and then do the GBG gummies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's something that the police did in inner city for inner city youth. For inner city youth to keep us off the street.

[Monet X Change]

How come they play on the blue ass manatee? Why you want to bless? You know, I have an aunt. I have an aunt who's Monet has. Monet's brother. I have an aunt who's a cop too. My father sister. Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you are really. Blue lives matter. Like that's even. That's really. Blue lives matter how?

[Monet X Change]

The fact that my aunt is a cop and your brother's a cop. How is my aunt being a cop more?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, because I'm gonna spill the tea. How your aunt got you out of jail that time.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I must say, I've never been to jail. That's not true. But I've been to jail. My aunt did not give me actually. Your brother got you out of jail. Are you talking? Why you talking?

[Martha Caldwell]

You switched it on.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Monet got arrested. It was also. It was shady. It was racist and it was. It was very racist. It's this guy in. In the Hell's Kitchen. I'm not gonna say his name because honestly, I'm actually legit. I think he's mafia connected. Girl. I. I don't. Hell's Kid. Well, the neighborhood near, it's not as

[Martha Caldwell]

dangerous as it TV show.

[Monet X Change]

No. So Hell Kitchen. So Monet was. There's this guy who owns a lot of places in Hell's Kitchen, and he's a straight guy, but he owns all these gay bars. Like, he owns all these gay bars and in gay restaurants.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You get it? You have an album stream Gay Bars by Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on. Someone's calling me again. Sorry. Hello? A red flag for me. If anyone calls me and it's starting trying to talk to Chris, it's a red flag, right? If you try to speak to Caldwell or you try to speak to Bob, then I know you know me or you know someone who knows me. But if you're calling me and saying, hi, is Chris there? I'm like, you don't know me unless my mom gave My number. You don't be giving me my number. My mom does try to trick me into meeting fans, though.

[Martha Caldwell]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

How so? My mom. One day, my mom. My mom picked me up from. And she was like, oh, we gotta stop by Walmart real quick. And I was like, okay, let's. Let's just go by Walmart, which is pretty standard in Georgia. You go to Walmart on the way, you pick up stuff. And then my mom was like, let's just go over to the. The cake section or the butcher section. Butcher, yeah, let's go to the deli. And I'm like, okay. So my mom just standing around the deli. By the way, my mother doesn't really buy meat from the deli. She usually. We usually buy like the. The other stuff. We don't. Not normally have to ask them for, like a hog head or anything. So I was like, okay, you know, maybe Uncle Steve wants some meat. Justin needs. Justin needs me. He was just living with my mother at the time. They lived together, should I say, at the time. And. And so I was like, it could be anything. It could be any host of things. But then all of a sudden, my mom's looking around looking for people. And then also my mom's wearing this shirt, by the way, the Bob the Drag Queen shirt. And then she bought a shirt, and then she was like, this is my son. So then my mom's talking to this gay guy who works at the deli, and he's like, oh, my God, it's Bob and Drag Queen. My mom took me to a meet and greet. It's Bob the Drag Queen. So my thought process was too. How did it come up to the guy at the deli that I was. That I was your son? Like, you like, did you see a gay guy? You was like, the shirt.

[Martha Caldwell]

Some people seen me from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

From tv.

[Martha Caldwell]

What you call. I guess he seen me on tv.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, the episode.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And people remember that.

[Martha Caldwell]

You Bob. You, Bob, Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

You don't even see Monet on tv.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh, God, we'll see Monster. They on TV so much.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, when they g. Oh, you better not.

[Martha Caldwell]

I better not see you on. On Drag Race no more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm done, Ma. I'm done. I'm not doing that show ever again.

[Martha Caldwell]

Hey, ain't no more dragging you can do unless you take. Unless you take RuPaul play.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's what I'm saying. I think that they might do a competition for the new host.

[Monet X Change]

Would you compete against me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Would you win?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

Aspen's called what? Who do you think will win? If me and Monet were competing, they gonna RuPaul's Drag Race. Who do you think will win?

[Martha Caldwell]

I pray they do. The same way they did her and the other guy they made y' all do over.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, mom, something tells me. Well, I think that Drag Race really lost her opportunity to have me and Monet go against each other. Monet's obviously. I can't think of a scenario where Monet would ever even be invited back to Drag Race. But then I said that after all stars and then, Lord and behold, you know what I mean?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Wait. Oh, okay.

[Monet X Change]

She was just repeating what I said.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was going to say, like, I think about that often. I'm like, I started going back to the sports thing. I'm like, imagine if that God had different plans for us, right? Like, what if you were meant to be a big basketball star? What if I was supposed to be like a football or not even. Like, what if we went down at such a different path? We would be so different. People would be very different right now.

[Martha Caldwell]

Right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. I mean, well, okay, so my Uncle Scotty, I'm actually. I'm actually kind of short compared to. Not short, but I'm a little bit shorter than my Uncle Scotty. A little bit. My uncle Scott's like 6, 4, 6, 3. My uncle Steve's probably 6, 4.

[Martha Caldwell]

I think to me, y' all like, y' all the same height, but you said you shorter.

[Monet X Change]

A little bit. Not much, though. I mean, Uncle Steve is definitely taller than me.

[Martha Caldwell]

I don't know, I can't remember.

[Monet X Change]

But if you want, I will show you Uncle Steve, too. My Uncle Steve. You go to Patreon, I think I'm doing a little Patreon exclusive interview with Michael Steve today. I. I am. I really think I'm a spitting image of my Uncle Steve.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think so. I don't see that. I see you. You like your mom.

[Martha Caldwell]

I see both of y' all dark skinned. That's about it.

[Monet X Change]

And tall and bald.

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, that's it.

[Monet X Change]

And.

[Martha Caldwell]

Gay. I'm going to tell you something. When my brother was gay, it was harder to be engaged in.

[Monet X Change]

He's still okay today.

[Martha Caldwell]

I'm saying, like, I'm talking about when he was young. Like when he was like, y' all age and he was younger.

[Monet X Change]

Can you get the picture of Uncle Steve off the.

[Martha Caldwell]

The bookcase being gay then? He, he had so many people picking on him when he Was a kid, he had so much. He had so much he had to go through. Same thing Bunte had to go through. And I got.

[Monet X Change]

I got a whole gay family. Well, my Cousin Avante is 19 and he. He just moved to Atlanta.

[Martha Caldwell]

Get a new frame.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, we'll get a new frame. And this my Uncle Steve, y'.

[Martha Caldwell]

All.

[Monet X Change]

This is probably. He was my age. He's probably younger than me in this picture.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Uncle. He would have come on with it with his contacts. Yes, that's Uncle Steve.

[Monet X Change]

We should have Uncle Steve recreate. Say again. Is it outback? Yeah, it's my mom's.

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But was I just saying. Sorry, I was just. I got distracted easily.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

About Uncle Steve. You and Uncle Steve look alike. No, your mom was saying it was hard for Uncle Steve being to be gay back then.

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, because he used to. So he had to fight so much in school. He played basketball and he was really good in basketball. He was on the starting team and you know, he really did great basketball and things. But he just had to fight a lot when he was a kid because people picking on him for being gay. And then at night time they'll try to get with him.

[Monet X Change]

Get with him. Like get with him. Oh, also, I think that that is. You know, I was talking to my cousin and it seems to be still the case in. I think it's a lot. A lot of it might be current too. You know, I was lucky enough to grow up in. I know I've said this before, but if anyone's new, I grew up all over the south. But I say I'm from Atlanta. I was born in Columbus. I moved Phoenix City, I moved to lagrange. I moved to Mississippi. Then I moved to Atlanta. Not quite in that order. X Where she grew up. Monte. That's where you grew up.

[Martha Caldwell]

Corinth, Mississippi. But I was sent to Indiana. Indiana, Indianapolis. To live with my uncle for about a year or so. And then.

[Monet X Change]

Which uncle?

[Martha Caldwell]

Uncle Wilson. And then I went back to. I was just missing my mom. I went back to Mississippi and. But she sent me up there for better opportunities. But then I moved to Columbus, Georgia and then.

[Monet X Change]

What year was that?

[Martha Caldwell]

Whenever you're your brother.

[Monet X Change]

Born 84.

[Martha Caldwell]

And then I moved from Columbus, Georgia to Phoenix City, Alabama and then back to Columbus and then to Atlanta to. Then to Decatur, the entailing wood. Then back to. Then back over to Stockbridge.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See.

[Monet X Change]

And now we live in Harry county, which is. So for those you don't know, we're subvert.

[Martha Caldwell]

All those are suburbs in Georgia. I mean In Atlanta area.

[Monet X Change]

I try to describe it someone a thousand times. I try to tell Monet and. And some of our lists who don't know Atlanta very well. But, like, most people who live in Atlanta live in the suburbs. Everyone. Everyone in Atlanta lives in the suburbs.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I used to live in Atlanta. I get it. I use. I. I used to live in Gwinnett County. I went to Bethesda Elementary School in Gwinnett county for a year.

[Martha Caldwell]

Right. I did used to live in Atlanta at one time, but in the house over by the.

[Monet X Change]

Where you got trapped by the cat.

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah,

[Monet X Change]

my mother's afraid of cats.

[Martha Caldwell]

I was trapped.

[Monet X Change]

Like, when I say afraid of cats, I don't mean, like, oh, no, a cat. Like, okay. So one time my mom called me, but I'm in college, and I was like, what is happening? She was like, chris, I am trapped in my house. I'm an hour late for work. I said, what do you mean? You tr. No, that's not. What happened was. No, that's what happened. I came over to the house. I came in.

[Martha Caldwell]

I came over there. You was on the phone.

[Monet X Change]

No, no, this is. This is a different. Because I remember because there was two times you called. My mom called me. She was like, I am trapped in the house, and I don't know what to do. And I said, what do you mean, trapped in the house? She goes, there's like, there's a cat on my porch. And then when she tried to sneak around the back, the cat would. Would peek around and look at her. So then she would run back in the house. So my mother was an hour late for work at a school, trying to. Trying to get to her car because this cat was just thinking about me,

[Martha Caldwell]

probably, but I thought he was thinking about me.

[Monet X Change]

So then I would. So for like a year after that, anyone who come over to the house, she'd be like, run. Run in the house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hurry.

[Monet X Change]

Running. And we're like, running and watch go. The cat. The cat is trying to get in my house. I was like, well, this cat is. This cat is.

[Martha Caldwell]

I can't only care level dead red on my front porch. I mean, he. Like you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They do that to. As an offering to, like, show you that they're.

[Monet X Change]

They're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're thinking about you.

[Martha Caldwell]

Well, I don't want him thinking about me. I don't need that.

[Monet X Change]

But that's why I don't have an outdoor cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why I keep my cat.

[Martha Caldwell]

Then the cat ran junior around the house. I wish I still had that video in this house. This house here? No, he wasn't in the house. He was outside. He ran Junior around the house, but some of those reason. Cat must have been crazy. Some, I don't know. But anyway, the cat, Junior came home from work one night, my cousin, and he walked down the driveway, he seen the cat sitting in the chair. So Junior told the cat to go on about his business. You said cat jumped down. So, Jesus. He turned around and walked back to the front door. He said he seen the cat come out there, so he started running. He said he looked back, the cat was still running. He said, cowboy beat him to the front door so he could put the code in time in the door, so he had to run back around to the other side. I see Junior on the damn video saying, oh, shit.

[Monet X Change]

Also, the bear in mind to you, my cousin Junior is grown. This is not a. This is not a. Junior is 28 years old, 6ft tall, running from. Running from a cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But the thing about these cats, you see these videos online about, like, these people trying to, like, put these, like, help them or whatever, and these cats will turn on you and they will like, sing their claws into these people. And then now this cat is latched onto your side. You can't shake it off of you.

[Martha Caldwell]

That's why I don't like kids. I seen a cat jump straight off the ground on somebody and just in seconds.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, no, no, I didn't.

[Martha Caldwell]

Got a little bit of the cat business attack you. Yeah, they're a little bit going, that won't be me. This is.

[Monet X Change]

This is Monet exchanges cat. Colleen.

[Martha Caldwell]

I seen that cat before.

[Monet X Change]

Can you rate this cat on a scale of 1 to 10 and beauty, 10 being the most beautiful cat.

[Martha Caldwell]

I like you and everything. I promise you that cat ugly. Hell, I can't even stand to look at it. It made me just crawl.

[Monet X Change]

Also, I. I stand firmly on this. Someone scammed Monet. Someone just shaved. A regular cat girl sold Monet a hairless cat. This is. This cat got more hair on her head than Monet do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, my cat has so much hair, it's so annoying.

[Monet X Change]

You're the hairless cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I got Laz.

[Martha Caldwell]

I literally have less than.

[Monet X Change]

Monet's cat is literally covered in hair,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but it's not long hair.

[Monet X Change]

It's like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like a very. Like a peach fuzz.

[Monet X Change]

Is it peach fuzz?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her tail is here.

[Monet X Change]

No, peach fuzz is like the hair on people's faces. That's peach fuzz.

[Martha Caldwell]

If you look and you can kind of see how there's Some hair.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I see some hair. There's hair all over the entire cat.

[Martha Caldwell]

That's regular hair.

[Monet X Change]

Someone scammed Monet. Someone sold Monet a big rat. Someone sold Master Splinter to Monet and told him it was a cat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was in New York. I had to go on the subway today to go to a fitting uptown. And I was on the a train at 34th Street. And when I tell you, I was like, New York is literally just like 12 rats just running around and thinking. I'm like, I like, New York is crazy. I cannot believe I used to live here. New York is crazy.

[Monet X Change]

Oh yeah, man. The rats have Metro cards. Yeah, the rats be using Apple pay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The rats.

[Martha Caldwell]

Like, hold on. Hey, play.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on. Hey, hey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We gotta get an expression.

[Martha Caldwell]

We was a kid, when Chris was a kid. We had got a rat in our house.

[Monet X Change]

I remember that.

[Martha Caldwell]

And I brought a rat trap. It wasn't really a rat, it was a mouse. I went out and brought a trap and it caught it and I was so scared of that thing. I don't know what to do. Chris goes in there like he a grown man, but he's a little bit of kid side.

[Monet X Change]

I was maybe like 6 or 6 years old.

[Martha Caldwell]

Picked it up.

[Monet X Change]

It's a casino, right?

[Martha Caldwell]

Hey, pick it up.

[Monet X Change]

Or Victor, it's on Victory Drive.

[Martha Caldwell]

Pick it up and take the trash. Take the rat down to the dumpster. Like it was nothing. I mean, he picked a rat up. I was like, oh, I can't take it. Jesus. I mean, I was just locked in a corner. Everybody probably steal everything. Somebody else moved in that apartment.

[Monet X Change]

But also for a 7 year old, that was pretty fierce. So what happened was we caught the mouse and me. So me and Justin were like in our room and then we just hear this noise and it's like woo. And we're like. So me and Justin rush in and she. So my mom is literally like she said, in the corner. And the mouse is dead, by the way. So we're all just standing around. Well, me and Justin are standing over this mouse strip.

[Martha Caldwell]

He was.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, it was kind of twitching a little bit. So me and Justin are standing over the. Over this dying mouse and my mother is in the corner and we're figuring out how to get it to the dumpster. And I was like, well I, you know, I think I just have to, I have to do it. Otherwise we're gonna have to just live with this mouse forever. Justin wouldn't do it. So I just picked up the whole mousetrap and I was holding. I Was. I was actually very proud. I was like, I was like, I got it, honey. And I just walked over to the. Because mice are kind of. Mice are kind of cute a little bit. They're low key cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you weren't holding like the. But you were holding like the trap.

[Monet X Change]

You weren't holding like the body, the only tail, the other. The trap. Yeah, I was so young.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Like, because when it's dead, it's like lifeless and the body's probably all squishy and warm. That's gross. But holding the trap, that's a little

[Monet X Change]

less like I caught a mouse in my New York City apartment in a sticky trap. By the way, if you're not willing to kill a mouse, don't use a sticky trap. Because the sticky traps do not kill them. If only use a sticky trap if you are going to watch the cat struggle and you are dedicated to that life. So I was in my apartment with this cat. I'm with this rat. I have to get my superintendent everything online, you know, all things online said everything online said, you, you, you take a broomstick and stick it to the stickiness so the whole thing is stuck. And then you just put it in a bucket of water. You drown the mouse. I did not have it in me to drown this mouse because the sticky traps do. So then when, when, when my old roommate used to live there, he would take the mice. He, I mean, you know, he was vegan. He used to take the mice to Central park and Ben used to take the mice to Central park and put oil on them and release them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love being oil on the trap.

[Monet X Change]

You put a little bit olive oil on the trap and then the mice just run away. Now Ben is, Ben is one of my friends, one of my lifelong friends that I've had not lifelong in my early 20s that, that has become good friends with Martha Caldwell and they hang out but also think about babe. Y'. All. Y' all don't know Honey LeBron. One day we will have Honey LeBron in the podcast and y' all get ready because, honey, you don't have a

[Martha Caldwell]

chance to say nothing.

[Monet X Change]

Honey LeBron is one of the most interesting people I have ever met in she's wild. But she Ben troffman behind the LeBron and my mom are good Judies. If Ben is coming through Atlanta, they

[Martha Caldwell]

live with me stay. He come stay with me every time he come here.

[Monet X Change]

And then really my mom once met him at the airport me.

[Martha Caldwell]

Every time he always let me know he gonna be at the airport and I Come and get him. And then he stay with me a couple of days, him hang out, talk without me.

[Monet X Change]

I don't even be knowing about it. I just. I hear about it afterwards. I'm like, oh, you know Ben. Ben got a. Ben got a real job now.

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really? What does he do?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I don't. Some. Some nine to five something girl. Ben is like living the that. Because Ben was a Hus, y'. All. When I say a hustle culture. Ben was doing headshots. Ben was. I mean, Ben is like a New Yorker through. And imagine this real New Yorker with a thick midwestern accent. That is who Ben Straussman is. Like, Ben kind of epitomize what New York City is

[Martha Caldwell]

because. Yeah, his family owns cheesecakes. Cheesecake business. I said, oh, I've seen these before because I had the Cheesecake factory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ben owns a cheesecake Factory?

[Martha Caldwell]

No, the cheesecake they buy. You buy them in the grocery stores.

[Monet X Change]

Some cheesecake like Straussman's. They're real expensive, like Straussman's cheesecakes or something.

[Martha Caldwell]

They real obviously been their own cheesecake. Because when I got a shot, they sent me a whole big old variety pack. I was like, oh, do you find

[Monet X Change]

straws cheesecakes, Bob, have you tasted the cheesecake? Yeah, when we lived together, I used to have them. Yeah.

[Martha Caldwell]

Either Ben Mesa. My mother sent you those. I said, oh, okay.

[Monet X Change]

Because he's vegan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Susie's. Susie's cheesecakes.

[Monet X Change]

There it is. Yep. Ben doesn't advocate for the cheesecakes because he's vegan. So he doesn't. He doesn't approve of his family's business.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Really.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he does not. That's why. That's why. That's why Ben was a hustler. Because he doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He will not. Ben is a hardcore vegan. He will not take any money from the cheesecake business because he was.

[Martha Caldwell]

He just.

[Monet X Change]

That is also the one when like

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you, he would eat a burger in Bob's house, he would start playing mooing sounds of cows.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly. Low key, iconic. Low key, iconic.

[Martha Caldwell]

I can't come. Here we go. Stay on. We go to dinner together and stuff. But being can talk now. If there's a show on, you don't look at the show. But being gonna talk right through the whole show. Like, okay, I'm just sitting here listening to me and talk.

[Monet X Change]

I want to talk about things that. Things that our family do that drive us crazy while we're here. One thing My family does that. I. I do not. I. I can't figure out how they all do this. First of all, my whole family, they will. Monet knows this. If we're, if we're watching tv, if we want to talk, we need to pause.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're the. Because you don't. You don't follow that rule.

[Monet X Change]

No, I pause it. I pause to speak words. I'm the one who will. I pause. Even if, Even, Even if I'm saying one second of a word, I pause it. I've been accused of pausing way too much. Not if we're in a movie theater. I can't pause in a movie theater. I can't pause in the movie theater. Obviously, this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is us at a movie. At a movie with Bob over there. Now she knows she's not over there. Rich. Am I right? Okay. I'm like watching the movie, please.

[Monet X Change]

But I think of funny things I want to say, and I want to tell the joke to you. So I think when they would appreciate my jokes, I feel like, girl, she looking like the Scarlet Bitch. If anything,

[Martha Caldwell]

Chris has always been that way. Chris has always. Could never stop talking.

[Monet X Change]

My family, they will talk through the show. They will play shows in the background. Also, everyone in my family is always getting calls from everyone in my family. If you guys don't know. I have 13 uncles and aunts. My mother has eight siblings, my brother has five. So I. I have 13 uncles and Aunts, right? And then, not to mention, some of them are married. So. So I have even more. If you think about the. The people they're married to. You know what I mean? So I. I have all together, probably almost 20 uncles and aunts, and it's. And so they're always constantly calling each other. And not to mention, I have some. I have a few. One, One cousin who's. We're cousins on both sides, meaning our mothers are sisters and our fathers are brothers. Because my mother and her sister were dating my father and his brother, so. So me and my cousin Angela are related on both sides of the family. Does that make sense?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Martha Caldwell]

They double cousins.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Because. Because our moms are sisters and our dads are brothers.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

It'd be like if. If you and your brother start dating two siblings.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, so. So the. So the families are all interweaved. We're always calling each other, but they would just answer the phone in the middle of the room, like. And Uncle Steve's phone is very. I don't know what this man's phone is, but this Mug is like they're wrecking ring. So Uncle Steve keeps his ringtone at maximum volume. So everyone's talking. It's like, hello, MOT.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then.

[Monet X Change]

And then he has the phone, and then my mom gets a call. So he's talking about Lisa. My mom's talking to my Hazel. And then my niece is on FaceTime with her, with. With her friends. And then they're all in the same room. No one leaves to do their calls. Everyone just sits in the same room, talk on the phone, talk to different people. And I don't know how they're able to even process like that. It's a lot for me.

[Martha Caldwell]

Process. It doesn't bother me. When you raise around a lot of people. Like some people say, well, I need this and I need that to go. Sleepy room got to be dark. This got to be that. The smack got to be this.

[Monet X Change]

Just Jacob.

[Martha Caldwell]

I don't need all that. I was raised with nine other people. If you could find a corner, lady, I go to sleep. You just found a corner. Lay down and go to sleep. Lights could be your own. People be in the room talking. I don't care. It could be sunshine and night time. It doesn't matter to me. I can go to sleep. But nowadays, people need to have so many preferences.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Jacob. Jacob. Really? Me and Jake were laying down last night talking, and Jacob was just like, it just is wild to me that you have so many cousins, so many first cousins. And I was like, Yo, I have 13 uncles and aunts, so, yeah, I'm gonna have a lot of first cousins. And I'm also not really under. Like, I don't. So, okay. Avante is my cousin. He's 19. His mother is my first cousin.

[Martha Caldwell]

Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was he named after the singer Avant?

[Martha Caldwell]

No.

[Monet X Change]

No. I don't. I don't know what Amanda was. Was. I don't know how Amanda came up the name of Monte.

[Martha Caldwell]

I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Martha Caldwell]

Came up with him, though.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Yeah. But I think that's. Imagine how a lot of people came over there.

[Martha Caldwell]

How did you come up with.

[Monet X Change]

Your names are Chris and Justin?

[Martha Caldwell]

I came up with Justin's name. I just always like the name. Well, I'll try to make Justin's first name be Blake. That's what I wanted his first name to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Blake. I like Blake. That's a nice name.

[Martha Caldwell]

So I could never find a second name. So I was going into labor that day. I said, I gotta find a name. So where my finger dropping this book. That's what it's gonna be. His name. So my finger dropped on the name Justin. So then I said, name him Blake Justin. That didn't sound right. So I named Justin Blake. And I always like to name Christopher, so I want to name him Christopher, but I couldn't think of a middle name for Christopher. And so me and his Auntie Lisa was riding around, and we tried to think of a name. Then we seen this building in Columbus, Georgia, an apartment building. He had the name of Del Mar on it, and Del Mar Apartments. That's gonna be his name right there. Del Mar. So we named out the apartment building Crystal Dell. Mark Haldwell.

[Monet X Change]

So I used to drive by the apartment building all the time as a kid and be like, oh, my God, this building has my name on it. And then one day, my mom was like, yeah, you're named after that building, the cdc. By the way, it wasn't like a particularly nice building. It was just like a regular. It wasn't like, ooh, what a fancy building. It was just a regular old apartment building that said Del Mar on it. So. And you know Del Mar means from the sea in Spanish.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of the sea.

[Monet X Change]

It can be from the zero of the sea. They, you know, of and from are the same in Spanish, but. But then we added an A to the middle, so it was. But it's still pronounced Del Mar. It's D E L A M A R. Del Mar apartment. Is that it?

[Martha Caldwell]

Look like that.

[Monet X Change]

It was bigger on the building, though, wasn't it?

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, it was a bigger sound. It's probably multiple sides around it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Del Mar. Delamar.

[Monet X Change]

Can you Google rent in the Del Mar apartments? You two could live in my. My namesake. You two could live in the building that I was named after for a small fee if you want to live on this. Is it on the south side of Columbus?

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah,

[Monet X Change]

it was probably the same as it was forever. All right, Moni, you have any final questions for Mother before we vanish her?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I love. I love spending time with what's called. Say it again.

[Monet X Change]

I said vanish. I meant to say vanish like you're sleeping, Monet.

[Martha Caldwell]

What's on?

[Monet X Change]

Drag her.

[Martha Caldwell]

No, you act like you're tired.

[Monet X Change]

Drag her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not tired.

[Martha Caldwell]

You seem like it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you look it. Read her, Mom. Read her down. Yeah, let's talk about the bags under the eyes. Let's talk about the bags under the eyes.

[Martha Caldwell]

I'm saying.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, we're ignoring the bags of the eyes.

[Martha Caldwell]

I ain't saying you got bags on your eyes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If there were.

[Monet X Change]

We're not talking about Them, I'm saying,

[Martha Caldwell]

you just look like you're tired.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm here.

[Martha Caldwell]

You like you're disinterested.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. This is what I deal with every time on the podcast. Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what it is?

[Monet X Change]

Monet? Someone pointed this out. I didn't realize that someone pointed it out. Someone pointed out. Now I can't unsee it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

Monat, do me a favor and do not lie to me. Do not lie to me. Hold your hands up like this so I know you're not lying. Grab your phone. Grab your phone right now. Take a picture of the screen. Take a picture of the screen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

Of the computer screen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of the computer screen.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Take a picture of the computer screen. One, two. Wait, let me make sure my flight's up. One, two, three. Now I'm gonna send you my picture. Now, I cannot confirm this or deny this, but a lot of the fans were like, monet's not listening to Bob. She's looking at herself. Monet's just looking at herself. Now, here's the thing. You'll notice on my screen, Monet is bigger than I am because I'm looking at Monet. I have a sneaking suspicion that Monet. That I am not big on her screen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're incorrect. I just literally said to the group,

[Monet X Change]

let me. Let me send it to the group.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's the one to you, Jay and Jacob. I didn't realize, but it's the same thing.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't know you. You know what, Monet? You ate that. But the one time the fans pointed out, the fans were like, monet is just looking at herself the whole time. I'd be in a deep story about my childhood trauma. Money be like, one time, there's this clip on the Internet.

[Martha Caldwell]

She was looking like she was doing something there. Like, she's not interested.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm here. I'm trying not to cut, because it's two of y' all on one side. I'm trying not to cut anyone off. So I don't want to, like, jump the gun and say something while you're talking.

[Martha Caldwell]

I'm saying, you don't. Not even looking.

[Monet X Change]

Once I. Years ago, I told my neighbors, you

[Martha Caldwell]

know when y' all said. Chris told me, he said whenever he came back from RuPaul, he said, we're probably looking right into that camera. So we stand over here. We're probably looking at the camera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Martha Caldwell]

That's what I said. I could tell that now that I look at it. Now that he's not actually looking at them.

[Monet X Change]

But when they training for the position music, though, there's a clip of me.

[Martha Caldwell]

She's looking down. While you're talking.

[Monet X Change]

There's a clip of me on the podcast talking to Monet. And I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I'm trying to get. Tell Monet about when I tried to buy you. You don't even know what is. My mother. My mother has lung damage, and I was looking on the black market trying to buy a lung on the black market. I went to this whole story about, about telling Monet about how I was. I was, like, sad, and I was, like, trying to buy this lung on black market. And then after this whole story of Mone goes, do you like my nails? That is not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is not true.

[Monet X Change]

So when I find it, are you. Are you gonna deny it? Once I find it. That is not true, Monet. When I find this video, are you gonna still deny it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ms. Caldwell? Anyway, so when y' all do the family reunion, do all these people come out to the family reunion? All these cousins and aunts and uncles?

[Martha Caldwell]

Yes, majority of them do. A lot of people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And where do y' all do it? In, like, a. In like, a. Cause that's, that's like, what, 50 plus people?

[Martha Caldwell]

Well, yeah, it'd be over 100 people.

[Monet X Change]

100 people?

[Martha Caldwell]

Sometimes be almost 200.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a lot of people. Also, to cater for that many people, who's cooking all that? Like, the aunts and uncles cook all that food.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, well, my whole family cooks. So everyone in the family is always something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everybody does a little something.

[Monet X Change]

That's not true. Not everybody. I don't cook. I, I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can you cook at all?

[Monet X Change]

I mean, I can cook, but, like, I follow instructions. I can't. I can't cook without instructions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't brunch food. When I cook, I just cook by feeling. I don't ever use instructions. Yeah, like, I just, like, I know a lot of the things from when I was a kid and my mom would cook, and I just kind of remember, like, I remember how to make chicken dewishes. I remember how to make Mac and cheese. I remember how to make sweet potato casserole. Like, I just remember how to make it.

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't. I don't. I also just don't get any joy from cooking. Cooking's not fun for me, really.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, like, making something for people and then they eat it, like, and see, like, they don't eat it. That feels good to me.

[Monet X Change]

I like ordering food for people and then Watching them enjoy the food that I order. That feels nice. Watching you know what I love to do? Walk around with my phone and getting orders for a breeze. What you want. Know what you want. Know what you want now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What you want of putting the work and the energy and the love into a meal and baking it and cooking and seeing someone like that tastes so good. I know that you put your heart and soul.

[Monet X Change]

I just told you, I don't get any joy from that. I feel like you keep asking me. I keep telling you I don't like it. It's not fun for me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ms. Calvin, do you like to cook?

[Martha Caldwell]

Yeah. I won't do it every day, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Martha Caldwell]

And I'm a good cook. Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why you making that face? Why are you making that face in the face?

[Monet X Change]

See, you are a rat. See, I. I don't believe you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He said you're.

[Monet X Change]

Your brother was snitch on each other.

[Martha Caldwell]

You are a rat.

[Monet X Change]

You're. You're a snitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why were you making.

[Monet X Change]

You're a tattletail. Why are we making that face? You're a tattletale.

[Martha Caldwell]

Thank you, Monet.

[Monet X Change]

You are a tattletale. See, this is. You know what? I'm about to put a knife to your finger right now and tell you not to move. I see why Sean did that. I'm team Sean. I'm team Sean. I see why Sean did that. You deserved it. You got what you deserve that day.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh, Lord.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow, my trauma. Thank you. Look at my finger. This is. This is. I still have the stitches right there. Well, the mark from the stitches right there.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I was saying that my. My mom. Okay, I was making the face because I don't know that my mom was like cooking a lot as a kid. But also, to be fair, my mother had several jobs. My mother had several jobs and was raising two kids and a dog when

[Martha Caldwell]

he was a kid. He, like, he missed any meals depending on what year.

[Monet X Change]

In seventh grade, I was real skinny, but that was. That was. I wasn't missing meals. I just happened to be real skinny.

[Martha Caldwell]

That's cause you was up living with skin Scotty then when you was in seventh grade.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Scotty fed a church of chicken every day, which I don't even know if those are still in existence anymore.

[Martha Caldwell]

I ain't with me then.

[Monet X Change]

No, I live with you. I live with you seventh. I live with you starting seventh grade. I live with Scotty in sixth grade. I live with you from seventh grade to 12th grade. I live with my aunt Hazel for fifth grade and my uncle Scotty, for sixth grade.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What you said is not there anymore. You said you, you don't know if that's not there anymore.

[Monet X Change]

Church's chicken.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, church. Yeah, Church's chickens. I've seen church's chickens around.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, that's my uncle.

[Martha Caldwell]

Church's chickens around here.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, right.

[Martha Caldwell]

They don't have church chicken and McDonald's.

[Monet X Change]

I, I, I hate church's chicken. I hate church.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just like Popeyes.

[Monet X Change]

It, that's, that's a falsehood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is false in my, in my opinion.

[Martha Caldwell]

Don't taste like Popeyes.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you, Mom. Sweetness or something too greasy.

[Martha Caldwell]

It's got like a greasy grease. Grease. Gre Grease.

[Monet X Change]

Mon don't have another fried chicken.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know that they put a levain in LA now?

[Monet X Change]

I heard it's a bakery.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A bakery.

[Monet X Change]

They sell like biscuit cookies.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, they're huge cookies. They're very good.

[Monet X Change]

All right, we have gone off track. We have pulled us real simple. Robert Monet, I love you very much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love you too, Roberta. Ms. Caldwell, I love you very much. It's always a pleasure having you on the podcast and thank you for supporting me and commenting on my post and even though sometimes my stuff is a little salacious, even though I be a little naked sometimes, I appreciate the support.

[Martha Caldwell]

No, you don't know. It'd be too much.

[Monet X Change]

Well, let's go through.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Monet X Change]

Let's, let's go through some of Monet's post and we can, we can rank them right now. Hold on. We're gonna go through some of these posts in this moment and we're gonna say we're gonna see if you think these posts are, are, are too much or not. Let's, let's, let's try this one. What do you think of this postman?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which one? Let me see.

[Martha Caldwell]

I don't know what he was trying to do right there.

[Monet X Change]

Let me see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which one?

[Martha Caldwell]

I don't know. What the hell you doing right?

[Monet X Change]

Can you, can you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which one?

[Monet X Change]

The viewers will know. You won't know, but the viewers will. What are you seeing in this post?

[Martha Caldwell]

I'm seeing too much booty and some shoes though. I don't know if he giving some Martian love or what are you giving try call the fuck to town.

[Monet X Change]

M. What do you think about not Uber Eats. O sorry. What about, what about this one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

M. You a guy when you actually click on your grinder, you.

[Martha Caldwell]

Oh, that's. Come on boys and get it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See.

[Monet X Change]

But I don't be posting stuff like this. Look at this mama What, Bob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you showing.

[Martha Caldwell]

What you trying to do? You trying to get on Monet? I am. All right? I am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. We got to go.

[Monet X Change]

Bobby, stop showing those pictures. Mother thinks she a baddie.

[Martha Caldwell]

She more than a baddie. She try to get up there with Mega Stallion

[Monet X Change]

money. Think she on love and hip hop or something. All right, so. Yeah, I don't post nothing like that.

[Martha Caldwell]

No, you don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me go on your Twitter and show your mom that picture you posted from Berkeley. I'll show you that picture that you put on Twitter. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Find it. No, I didn't post no nasty picture. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. The picture was not nasty. What was it? This is. This is pornography. I wouldn't even. I wouldn't let my niece see this. And she's. She's 30.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you lucky.

[Monet X Change]

I'm. I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm on your page. I'm trying. I'm trying to search Berkeley. I don't know what to search in my. This picture.

[Monet X Change]

We have to go. Thank you so much, everyone, for joining us on the podcast. We love you all. See you all next time.