The One With Bob's Mom (Re-Release)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – The One With Bob's Mom (Re-Release)

Release Date: May 18, 2024
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Special Guest: Ms. Martha Caldwell (Bob's mom)

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Episode Overview

This raucous, laughter-packed episode reunites drag legends Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change, welcoming an extra-special guest: Bob’s mother, Ms. Martha Caldwell. Together, the trio explores hilarious family memories, generational quirks, the SAG-AFTRA strike, and cultural touchstones. The chemistry is infectious as they roast one another, dish on Drag Race legacy, and share insights on family, queerness, and Black Southern life.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. SAG-AFTRA Strike & Industry Greed

• [05:27–07:28] Both Bob and Monét express support for the Hollywood strikes, criticizing studio greed and the minimal (yet impactful) financial demands at stake.
  • Quote [07:28]: Monét: “It’s so infuriating, it’s so maddening that these fucking people just want to be greedy.”
  • They joke about being “part of the 1%” and mockingly offer to help the “weak, poor bitches” (07:49).

2. Memes, Mashups & Social Media Culture

• [01:14–03:46] The hosts discuss fan-created meme mashups from Drag Race, with Bob’s image merged with Thorgy Thor and Monét’s with Eureka.
  • Bob riffs on the “uncanny valley” concept and teases Monét for being unfamiliar with the term.
  • Quote [03:15]: Bob: “People on the Internet like to act like because they know something, everyone in the world should know.”

3. Drag Race, Competition, & Friendship

• [12:11–13:12] Monét opens up about her evolving friendship with Trinity the Tuck, from tense competition on All Stars 4 to real camaraderie post-show.
  • Bob reflects similarly on tension and personal growth with other queens like Thorgy.
• [38:00–38:42] The group wonders about future Drag Race hosts, debating who’d beat whom if they competed to replace RuPaul.

4. Family & Black Southern Upbringing

• [15:00–21:12] Ms. Caldwell joins, sparking stories about Southern childhoods, generational differences (Boomer vs. Gen X/Z), and family dynamics.
  • Ms. Caldwell's wit and warmth shine, prompting hilarious anecdotes about food, sports, and sibling mischief.
• [29:27–32:24] The hosts and Ms. Caldwell recall sibling pranks, discipline, and wrestling with how childhood games could tip toward violence—often with hindsight humor.

5. Wigs, Weather, & Beauty Rituals

• [18:36–20:55] The complications of wearing wigs in hot Southern climates come up, drawing laughs and shared commiseration.
• [18:48] “In the summer when it’s hot… I would go crazy if I had to have a wig on my head.” (Monét)

6. Generational Attitudes: Substance Use

• [22:10–24:59] Ms. Caldwell candidly addresses her near-teetotal life—never a drinker, with hilarious stories about “two daiquiris” making her silly and a brief, anti-climactic foray into weed as a teen.
  • Bob: “One daiquiri had Ms. Caldwell loose, honey.” [23:09]

7. Sports, Unused Talents, & Paths Not Taken

• [31:15–33:54] Bob’s short-lived basketball glory, Monet's attempts at netball and junior football, and parents’ gentle regrets about “what could have been.”

8. Queer Family Legacies

• [39:55–41:21] Ms. Caldwell reflects on her brother’s struggles as a gay athlete in earlier, less accepting times, underscoring generational progress—and lasting prejudice.

9. Rats, Mice & Urban Survival

• [48:02–51:07] Real (and real funny) stories about rodents in homes and city life, from Georgia to NYC.
  • Quote [49:37]: Bob: “I was like—I got it, honey!” (picking up a mouse at 6 years old)

10. Family Noises, Boundaries, & Household Chaos

• [53:38–56:57] Bob describes the “beautiful chaos” of big Southern Black families: people talking over TV, answering phones in the same room, and never lacking for company or commotion.

11. Social Media Posts & Parental Reactions

• [68:20–70:09] Bob scrolls some of Monét’s more risqué Instagram posts past Ms. Caldwell for on-air judgment, prompting good-natured laughter and gentle chiding:
  • Ms. Caldwell [68:57]: “I’m seeing too much booty and some shoes… giving some Martian love or what!”
  • [69:56] “She more than a baddie. She try to get up there with Megan Thee Stallion!”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Speech Empowerment [00:58 | 14:42]
  • Monét: “My speech impediments do not define me. I define them.”
• Cat Adventures [43:51–45:43]
  • Bob: “Junior is 28 years old, 6ft tall, running from a cat.”
  • Ms. Caldwell: “He was sitting on my bed. I said, ‘You gonna kill him because he’s sitting on your bed?’”
• Family Cooking [64:31–65:22]
  • Monét: “I cook by feeling, never instructions. I know how to make chicken delicious, mac n cheese, sweet potato casserole…”
  • Bob: “No, I just don’t get any joy from cooking. Cooking’s not fun for me.”
• Parental Roast [60:28 | 60:46]
  • Ms. Caldwell: “You act like you’re tired… You seem like it.”
  • Bob: “Yeah, you look it. Read her, Mom!”
• Podcast Energy
  • Bob and Monét’s sibling-esque bickering is relentless, often dissolving into mutual giggles, especially as Ms. Caldwell joins in the roasts.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|----------------------------------------------| | 00:29 | Intro & Episode Theme | | 05:27 | SAG-AFTRA Strike & Industry Talk | | 14:41 | Monét’s Speech on Self-Definition | | 15:00 | Mrs. Martha Caldwell Joins | | 22:10 | Drinking & Substance Stories | | 29:27 | Sibling Rivalry & Childhood Pranks | | 31:15 | Sports, Tall Genes, and ‘What Ifs’ | | 39:55 | Queerness in the Family (Uncle Steve) | | 48:02 | Rodents: Mouse & Rat Stories | | 53:38 | Family Dynamics: Chaos & Communication | | 64:31 | Who Cooks, Who Doesn’t | | 68:20 | Social Media Roast & Parental Judgment |

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Episode Tone & Highlights

With classic Sibling Rivalry sass, candor, and improv, the episode blends poignancy and riotous banter. Ms. Caldwell’s presence deepens the family warmth, adding Southern storytelling and maternal shade. The trio’s rapport explores generational change, Black family traditions, LGBTQ+ acceptance, and the subtle art of drag-family roasting.

Perfect For:

• Fans of Drag Race lore
• Listeners seeking intergenerational Black queer stories
• Comedy lovers who appreciate heart with their humor

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Standout Exchange

[60:28] Ms. Caldwell: “You act like you’re tired…”
[60:36] Bob: “Yeah, you look it. Read her, Mom!”
[68:57] Ms. Caldwell: “I’m seeing too much booty and some shoes. I don’t know if he giving some Martian love or what!”

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a joyous, wide-ranging ride through drag culture, Southern Black family, intergenerational quirks, and heartfelt acceptance—with cackles and shade mixed in at every turn. Ms. Caldwell delivers stand-up-ready punchlines and realness in equal measure, making her a clear fan favorite and an integral piece of Bob's story.

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Transcript

[Monet X Change]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen

[Monet X Change]

and I'm Monet X Change.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is simply rivalry. On today's episode, we talk about the SAG Aftra strike.

[Monet X Change]

We chit chat with Bob's mom, and

[Bob the Drag Queen]

we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

My speech impediments do not define me. I define them. Okay. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Junior is 28 years old, 6ft tall, running from. Running from a cat. We found out what made my mom say this.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

She like, you're sleeping, Monet. What's on you acting like you're tired?

[Monet X Change]

And we find out what made my mom. Oh, wait, she's not here. So there's this. So the fans do this thing where they will combine our talking heads from Drag Race. Who is yours? Always combined with Thorgy. Oh, how is. I don't think I've probably seen. I don't remember it, but they put mine with Eureka. And I think this shit looks so crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You look like a.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You look like a black Republican. Tell me that nigga's not a black Republican. Tell me that is not a black Republican, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Maureka said blue lives matter, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Marika, I can't find mine. One of my friends sent it to me a while back and I remember, like. I remember like, getting and being like, oh, Lord, not this, but yeah, I always get combined with Thorgy. For whatever reason, people get a tickle out of me as Thorgy or Thor. I don't know if it's Thorgy.

[Monet X Change]

Is it cute?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, not really. I mean, I wouldn't want to look like this in real life. You know what I mean? But if there is a person out there who. Who happens to look like that, I just want you to know that you're beautiful in your own way. I just.

[Monet X Change]

I just want to be your own way. Not in your own way. Just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just not for me. I. I just don't personally want to look like I'm trying to find it, but it's going to take me forever to find it. But you can keep talking about why I try to find it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Of that picture. I think I Mean that. I mean, eureka. All of them always look so, so interesting, but that one is like, woof, girl. I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I. It is the. What do you call it? The. When it's the uncanny valley.

[Monet X Change]

What's that again? You explain uncanny valley.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When it looks like it's real, but it's not. Like it, like. Like a robot. Like if a robot looks a little too human. That's when you get into the uncanny valley.

[Monet X Change]

I love when you said on the podcast and people, everyone was like, duh, Monet. Like, I should have. Like, I should have heard the term uncanny valley before. That's not something you hear every day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, people on the Internet like to act like because they know something everyone in the world should know. I mean, you know how people be. Girl, folks be acting like they know. What I hate when. When someone gets wind of a word or a term for the first time ever, and they act like they've always known about it. They are using like. Like it's been part of their vocab since. Since day one. That drives me. I don't know why I hate that so much, but it drives me crazy.

[Monet X Change]

And half the people that probably. They probably heard you say in the podcast, and they looked it up and they were like, they, duh. Everyone knows that. You didn't know it. Don't be lying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I cannot find the picture of me as Thor, G. I'm sure the fans are going to all tag. Tag me and the. The Borgi.

[Monet X Change]

Borgi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Borgi picture. But it's. It's somewhere on the Internet, Thor. It exists. If, If. If you. If you really want to find it bad enough, you. You will find the picture of me and Thorgy as one unit or whatever.

[Monet X Change]

Remember this dance. Is this. Is this a cabbage patch?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's a cabbage patch. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What. Yo, you think about old dances? Can y' all see that? I can see it. I'll send it to you in the group chat. Honestly, this is low key. Funny.

[Monet X Change]

It's cute. Like, dances from the 90s. Like, who was like, okay, this is the new dance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if the cabbage patch is from the 90s. Is it from, like, the. I feel like the cabbage patch.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

80s?

[Monet X Change]

80s maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Philly. I mean, I don't. To be honest, I don't. I don't actually know when the cab charge is from, but the running man actually looks cute.

[Monet X Change]

The chicken noodle soup is a fun dance. The Harlem shake was a good one. But like, like, you remember like the ones from the 50s. Like the washing machine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, why would I. Why would I remember? I'm like, okay, I'm kidding. When I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[Monet X Change]

How do you get this not. Not look like you back in the day? You remember? Y' all remember old podcast. But this is Bob. Every five minutes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It wasn't that long ago, but yeah, sometimes the focus. So you put your hand by the camera and then you just. You have to slowly pull your hand back and you have to, like, meet your hand so that the camera focuses on both you at the same time. It's usually because there's something behind you that the camera's trying to focus on. So I think also if you sit directly in front of this drawing, it'll probably stop happening.

[Monet X Change]

So the other day, Bob and I went. We went protesting for. Cause we're both sag. And afterwards we took a picture. And I will say, this is one feature that the Android has that I do think is very cool because we were taking it on a thing. We put the camera on the thing, and no one compressed the thing. So you go like this and it takes a picture for you. That is a very cool invention. I think it's very cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a Samsung phone and an Android phone. I think that also, I want to be clear that everyone. I don't know what I said the other day where someone was like Bob admitting to scabbing. I was not. I was not doing a. Whatever I said I was doing, I was. I was not. I was not doing a union gig. I was not in these streets doing any union gigs. I have. I'm there. There are no. There are no union gigs right now. There are no. I was not filming any union gigs. So, no, I was not scabbing everyone. Have you heard that a 24 is the only. Have you heard of the. HBO is the only studio that has accepted the union.

[Monet X Change]

You mean Jenny. And they are a small company. And do you know, for these fucking executives, for Disney and all these people to meet the demands of SAG and Wooga. Oh, my God, not Wigga, WGA. That they only have to give up 2% of their earnings. 2% of their earnings?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, when you're making billions, that's a lot to you. Two percent of a billion. Hey, Google, what's 2% of a billion?

[Monet X Change]

It's 2. It's $2 million, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's a lot of money. I mean, but if you have a billion, though. No, it's 20. 20 million is 2% of a billion. That's wild.

[Monet X Change]

And they can't get. But I'm saying you can give up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I agree. I agree. Give it up. But I'm just like, that's so much money, and it's so little. It little to them.

[Monet X Change]

It's fucking infuriating. It's so infuriating. It's so maddening that these fucking people just want to be greedy. And, you know, they were like, oh, we're just. We're just. We're going to hold it out until people are losing their houses and they. And they can't afford food. We're just going to. We're just going to. We're just going to wait it out

[Bob the Drag Queen]

as part of the 1%. Do you have any messages for the other members who are being ridiculous?

[Monet X Change]

Listen, guys, we have enjoyed our wealth and our riches for far too long. I, as the top.01% in this country, I am willing to give a 2% of my earnings for these fucking weak, poor bitches. And you guys should, too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was just watching the Sweet of St. Lucia video, and I realized you low key paved the way for Rihanna. Do you remember the video of Rihanna being like, trans, non, binary, all the gender appropriation?

[Monet X Change]

No, I don't remember. I never seen this video.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You ever seen Rihanna saying trans, non, binary, all the gender appropriations? You never seen this video?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It just reminded me of when you won St. Lucia. You said, whether you gay, straight, whatever that is, that both men and women and non binary people of all gender appropriations. And the pronouns, everyone is included. I design. Now, can you bring up Monet saying whether you gay, straight. Monet. Listen, okay, first of all, have you still not sold sweet St. Lucia shirts?

[Monet X Change]

No, I have my Monat. Bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a Monet.

[Monet X Change]

My Monat inserts went popped off. Honey, we sold out in less than 24 hours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a cookbook, okay? You do a cookbook of St. Lucia recipes and you call it as sweet as St. Lucia.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, that sounds fun.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is the St. Lucian dessert, Jacob?

[Monet X Change]

That's a good idea. St. Lucia dessert.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think we have. I mean, Jacob will be collecting a percentage. We have. We have it right here on camera. If you want to steal his idea

[Monet X Change]

about Saint Lucian dessert. I think it's more like West Indian dessert. They're not. I don't know what a traditional Saint Lucian dessert is. I mean, what's the West Indian dessert? We love a lot of, like, cassava and stuff like that. We love candy. Cassava is like a. It's a. It's A ground provision. But you can make it. They make it like a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like a ground provision.

[Monet X Change]

Ground provisions. Like breadfruit and.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's a breadfruit?

[Monet X Change]

They're ground provisions, Mona.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't. I don't know what a ground provision is. So when I ask you what a ground provision is, and you say it's a dasheen, and they ask you what a dasheen is, you say it's a ground provision. You got to give me something more.

[Monet X Change]

They're like starches. They'll think of, like, potatoes, like, from. Like, they're stuff, like, from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it like a plantain?

[Monet X Change]

Plantains are not from the ground. They're grown on trees, like bananas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're starches.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, but plantain is grown. It's not a ground provision.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it like a yucca?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, yucca. Well, y' all call it yucca. We call it yucca. We have, like, pemi. Pemmy is like our version of a tamale.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like. Like, it comes, like, in a husk.

[Monet X Change]

Well, no, it doesn't come in. You cook it in that. You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You get. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah, you cook it in a husk. To be clear, everyone, tamales don't grow on. In corn husk. I don't know if you know. Well, I mean, to our listeners, tamales do not grow in corn husk. You cook them in a corn husk.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, My God. A St. Lucia Grecy Cookbook.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch. Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

That's a good idea. Food Network. What's up?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What percentage are you gonna give him?

[Monet X Change]

Jacob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nah, nah. Joe Rogan. Yes, Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

I'll give him some. My thanks and my love.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That doesn't seem fair. It doesn't seem fair. Yeah, that seems like Jacob gave you a really good idea and you're gonna pay him and.

[Monet X Change]

Huh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You sound like the Disney executives, quite frankly. Tilt your head one more time. If you fucking tilt your head one more time, I'm gonna go through the screen and fucking grab you by your throat. Why do you hate when I tilt my head?

[Monet X Change]

Because it is maddening to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, when I watched the episode with you and Trinity, the fact that she still does that head thing is so funny to me. Oh. Like, is she aware of it, or is she doing it, like, intentionally now?

[Monet X Change]

No, I think. I think it's a tick. I don't think she's aware that she does it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, girl. Oh, yeah, girl. That is so hilarious to me. I live. Trinity has some of the funniest just isms and tics. They're just so funny.

[Monet X Change]

I said this on the podcast, and I said it to you before. I really have grown to really enjoy, and I really like Trinity as a person. She's great. I really enjoy Trinity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How did you feel about her?

[Monet X Change]

How?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? How'd you used to feel about her?

[Monet X Change]

I think when All Stars 4. Like, we didn't. We, like, we got to know each other during All Stars 4. But I thought. I think at our first meeting, competition got the best of Trinity. I think Trinity's aware of that. And I think that, you know, we didn't have the best rapport in doing All Stars, but when All Stars was airing and afterwards, we've been great. But while All Stars was going on and, like, while it had just started airing, we were not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were like, let's talk about Thorogy. I feel like when we were together, the competition got the best authority, and then afterwards, the alcohol got the best authority. And then. And then I said, age got the best authority. Age, alcohol. Between age, alcohol, and then the bitterness. I thought you said. I did not say that. I didn't say that. That's not what I said.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just. Listen, that's not what I said.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I thought. That's what I thought.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I. But. But I just. Just to be clear, I didn't say that.

[Monet X Change]

To be fair, I did a podcast with Lady Bunny, who would work it into almost every bit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's wild.

[Monet X Change]

Lady Money is wild. Harvey, do you. Do you follow on Facebook. I mean, Instagram?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What in the. What in the. Auntie and uncle Facebook.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly, I might go back. I might go back at this point,

[Monet X Change]

because I want there. I started going back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Twitter is called X now. I can't. It's a wrap.

[Monet X Change]

I know, I know. Twitter is. Twitter's wild. That's why I'm like. I thought, oh, my gosh, should we have a sistapact and deactivate our Twitters together?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not there yet, but honestly, I'm not far. Let me post a few more threads. All right, we're gonna take a break, and then we'll be back with a very special guest.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, they know who it is. They see what the title of the episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm just. I didn't say secret guest. I just said special guest.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I want to introduce her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This ain't like, you know, y' all did this for a whole season on Secret Celebrity Drag Race, y' all had Loretta Devine talking about something. Hey, everybody. So we can't do it here on the pod. Go Ahead and introduce her mom.

[Monet X Change]

Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to. Ladies and gentlemen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, don't take out. Don't take out the. I was going to say what I

[Monet X Change]

was going to say.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was going to take out the one when she stuttered. Keep the stutter in.

[Monet X Change]

Listen. Keep that old take in. Listen. My speech.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Keeping the queen's speech.

[Monet X Change]

My speech. Impediments do not define me. I define them. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break, and when we come back, we're gonna have our extra special guest, which is Ms. Martha Caldwell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we're back and black. So we have a special guest in with us today. So I'm in Atlanta at my mom's home, and we are joined by the one and only Ms. Martha Caldwell.

[Monet X Change]

Ms. Calma.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Hey, how are y' all doing?

[Monet X Change]

We're doing great. We're so happy to have you on a podcast. Can I tell you, we have begged me, as a co owner of this podcast and a fan of you and Bob, we have been begging to have you on a podcast. So this is nice that we finally get to have you.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Well, thank you. Thanks for inviting me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I've had my mom on my YouTube page before if y' all want to see me and my mom watch WAP Together.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes, I remember that. That was a funny video.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We watched WAP together, which was exciting. And if you want to see. If you want to see my mom's reaction, I mean, are you a boomer? Can you Google the year of Boomers?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Am I? I didn't know I was a boomer.

[Monet X Change]

I thought maybe your mom is Generation X. I think generation is Generation X. I think Generation X. I'm boomer than

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Generation X. I thought I was.

[Monet X Change]

I think they're the same thing.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Boomer is 46 to 64. Oh, I guess I'm a boomer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where were you born?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Okay. Oh, that was the years he was talking about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the year you're born in those years. Oh, yeah.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Wait, four, six. Six, four.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you just. You just made it. You just made it to the. To Boomerhood.

[Monet X Change]

So. So, so your mom is like me. I'm like, I'm kind of Gen X. I'm kind of. I'm Gen Z and Millennial. Your mom is like Boomer and Gen X.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

But.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But the j. The jinzies have been d. Every time Mona tries to claim to be a Gen Z, they drag her through the. Through the Millennial coals.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

What's a Gen Z.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know who's a Gen Z? Camion?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nevaeh is a Gen Z. Avante's a

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Gen Z. Oh, no, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

Isn't Nevaeh the generation Alpha? How old is she?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thirteen.

[Monet X Change]

I think that's. No, she's Alpha.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. It's just too much for you.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You put it too close of a mouth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you got to be close so they can hear you.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Oh, okay. All right, I'll speak up.

[Monet X Change]

Ms. Caldwell, do you think that Bob gets his funny from you?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Everybody say that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It has to be close to your face, Ma.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Everybody. You put it too close.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know what to tell you. The mic, it has to be. See how close it is to my face. The mic has to be close to your face. I love what she said.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I'll take a lick. You take a lick.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you have to hold the mic close.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, well,

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

what was your question again?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you think that people. You get. I get my sense of humor from you.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yes. I get a lot of people to say, not that Chris get my. But I get a lot of people tell me I need to be in Stand up.

[Monet X Change]

You. You. I feel like you'd have been a funny comic. I mean, anytime I've. I've been with you, you've. You've. Been. You've made very funny jokes, especially my favorite one is about me and watermelon. Oh, Lord, this boy in black who ain't black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, because. Because Monet don't like watermelon.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Oh. I said the same thing about Chris.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I ate watermelon. Oh, I eat it now. I didn't eat when I was a kid, though.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

When he was a kid, he. Watermelon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just didn't like the way it tastes.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Sweet potato pie either.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. I've always eaten sweet potato pie. I love sweet potato pie.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Why y' all didn't eat sweet potato, bruh?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That must be your other son. Who also don't eat. Who don't eat fish either. Justin don't eat catfish.

[Monet X Change]

I love a good fish. See, I don't like catfish. Catfish is a weird fish. I like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like.

[Monet X Change]

Like a salmon. I like a whiting. Bob, what's the inspiration behind this wig today? Why? Why. Why are you getting wiggy with it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I got my mom this wig years ago, and she never wore it. She doesn't seem to like it. But then I put it on, and honestly, I think I look really cute in this wig. This could be my hair.

[Monet X Change]

I'm into it. But the thing about, like in the summer when it's hot, like, I think about if I had to wear a wig every day, like, you know, like my mom or my grandma, when they were, like, when it's like. Especially in New York City, it's so hot, I would go crazy. If I had to have a wig on my head, I would go crazy. I already sweat so much as a normal person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you can also wear your hair. You can wear your wig back so it's not all over your.

[Monet X Change]

But it's this. It's just this on the head, I feel like is too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, my mom was just saying. My mom was just saying that she. That she felt. What were you saying about how you felt otherwise?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Too hot outside. See, it's too hot.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I was just in. I was in. In. In New Orleans. I feel like every time I say New Orleans, I say like, a freaking, like something. I'm like, new Orleans.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that how you think Southerners say New Orleans?

[Monet X Change]

No, they say it New Orleans.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Southerners say New Orleans. People from New Orleans say New Orleans, but people from. How do you say New Orleans, Mom?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

New Orleans?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, people from. People from the south say New Orleans, but people from New Orleans say it differently.

[Monet X Change]

Well, when I was in New Orleans, it was so hot, and it was the Essence Festival, so there are lots of beautiful. I mean, a lot of black people live there regardless. But specifically at the convention center, I mean, it was like 110 degrees. Like, legitimately. 110 degrees. I mean, people had hair. I was like, I could not imagine. I'm seeing the sweat dripping down people's neck. I'm like, I would have to throw myself into drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I've seen you outdoors in 100 degrees in corset pads, hair, heels.

[Monet X Change]

How often am I in that temperature and drag?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Seldom.

[Monet X Change]

It's going to be for like a second.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm assuming those people at the Essence Festival are. Or we're just, like, trying to look their best.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, absolutely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I admire it, but maybe not that often in that kind of weather. Like that, though. I mean, I imagine.

[Monet X Change]

No, I mean, my mom wears a wig to work every day, and she's at work for eight hours a day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How hot is it in St. Lucia?

[Monet X Change]

St. Lucia gets hot. It's an island. I mean, you get island breeze, so it's a little different. But St. Lucia is hot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's not like a drink. Let me get an island breeze. Oh, my God. That. What. What's in an island breeze? Rum there's rum.

[Monet X Change]

There's, like, some type of punch.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I think there is a. What they call those things? Waku name. Island breeze.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It probably is.

[Monet X Change]

There probably is a drink. Let's look it up. I'm going to look up the island breeze. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See if you can guess what's in before you. Before you say what it is. I think that.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Let.

[Monet X Change]

Let me. Let me pull it up first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

An island breeze is going to have rum. It's going to have coconut water or. Yeah, coconut water. A splash of pineapple juice and. No, pineapple juice and a splash of cranberry.

[Monet X Change]

You're pretty off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is an island breeze?

[Monet X Change]

First of all, it's vodka.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What, in the island breeze?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's one to two ounces of vodka. Oh, there we go. Vodka, pineapple juice. Oh, no, you. Vodka, pineapple juice, cranberry juice, and a moschino cherry. I mean, I'm sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, let me get the Gucci cherries. Let me get the moschino cherries.

[Monet X Change]

A maraschino cherry. Ms. Caldwell, so you used to own a bar, did you? So did you. Did you ever drink?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No, I've never been a real drinker. I used to drink Kahlua and milk. That was about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Kahlu and milk. Yeah, Kahlu. Milk's not bad, actually. It's like Kahlua's like a coffee kind of.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I drink milk and. Not milk and peach snobs.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, milk and peach knobs.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No, not milk and peach knob. Just peach snobs.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. Yeah, I see that on ice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One time when I was in high school, my mom came home. She was being so silly, and I was like, mom, what's going on? Like, I have never seen her act this silly. She was just running the house, just, like, being goofy. And then she, like, bumped into something. I said, mom, what is happening? And she was like, okay, I had a daiquiri. The way she was like, all right, I had a daiquiri. One Daiquiri got Ms. Caldwell loose. Honey, she was not one.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

It was two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I had a daiquiri.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You remember that day? Yeah, I remember that day. I think it was your birthday.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why would you drink a decorate.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I've been celebrating your birthday. Huh? I don't know. I just did after work one day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I. I tried to get my mom to. When I was bartending at. At Ruby Tuesday in Columbus, Georgia, at the mall. I was trying to get my mom to drink with me or just have a drink at the bar, and she would. She would never. I think I got her one drink and she pretended to drink it, probably. But I've never seen my mom. I've never seen my mom finish a meal. I would have seen my mom drink. Well, I seen her take a sip of a drink before. I've never seen a drink, a full drink. I've never seen mom drunk.

[Monet X Change]

My mom drinks like we like. It's also just part of the culture. They were just St. Lucia Carnival, and my mom, she has like a whole costume and everything. And they, like. They're in the parade with their. With their drinks and everything. My mom is. My mom is a drinker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Turned up.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Turned.

[Monet X Change]

My mom doesn't get silly. She doesn't. She's not like. She's very composed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's her drink of choice?

[Monet X Change]

I think nowadays it's very standard in St. Lucia. It's like a Roman Coke, a Chairman's and. Coke.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A Chairman's.

[Monet X Change]

Chairman's. It's like the local rum there, like, that's brewed, that's made in St. Lucia.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I tried to drink and never acquired taste for liquor or beer. I tried when I was a teenager.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't like beards, but my

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

mama beat that out of me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, cigarettes or weed.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Well, I tried weed one time too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What. What can you tell about your weed experience? Well, how old were you?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I was a teenager who was at a house party, and the girls said, try this. Try to. She said, you're gonna really love. You're gonna really be. All I do is make you feel real hungry. And I took two puffs off of it, and I never really got hungry, so I thought, this ain't worth it. So I just didn't even do it anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you inhale it?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I puffed on it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you have to. You have to take it into your system.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Well, I probably know that part. I just. I just. That's all. Just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you feel. Did you. Did you feel cool when you was doing it?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No, I felt scary and hope my mom wouldn't catch me. That's what I was feeling.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did your siblings smoke weed when you were younger?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No one smoked weed. Oh, wow.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Steve probably did. He probably the only one adventurous enough to do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One of my siblings smoke weed.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You ain't got with one other siblings. That's your brother.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Justin Spokesman.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was joking. One of my siblings spoke with. I ain't gonna say who. I ain't no rat, so I ain't gonna say who, but I will say one of my siblings I grew up with.

[Monet X Change]

Were you. Were you A rat. As a kid, did you rat out Justin a lot?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. Me and Justin were thick as thieves. We never ratted on each other.

[Monet X Change]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me and Justin would work together.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We would collude kahoot and work together to hide everything from my mother. We hid that I broke my bedroom door in Phoenix City until we moved. She didn't know about that until we moved. She didn't know that Justin. One day, Justin was vacuuming. He tripped and his elbow went through the wall. So then me and Justin had to come up with a plan, so we just covered his. So Justin used to love Source magazine, so we just took Source magazine, but the elbow. But the hole was elbow height. So obviously why would one picture be down there? So me and Justin decided to. Came with a plan to just put posters everywhere. I mean, we just ripped up the magazine and put pictures of wrappers and shoes and clothes on every, like, random heights of the room. So that. And my mom didn't know until. Until we. Until Justin moved out of the house

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

when we all moved. From Phoenix City?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, from Cobblestone.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Oh, from Cobblestone. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I broke one of her. You remember them blue candle holders you used to have? Used to be on that lawn to have these blue and white candle holders?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I can't really remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, we broke those, glued it back together. You probably never knew about that.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

All behind my back.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We did not write each other out. Me and Justin were. We were working together. Did you and your brother write each other out?

[Monet X Change]

No, he didn't really. But I mean, I tell you, he like literally sliced my finger open. I had to go to the hospital and get five stitches. And I never told anyone that he sliced my finger. Finger open.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What did you say happened?

[Monet X Change]

I was like. I said, oh, I was trying to open a can with a knife and my. And my hand slip. When he fully had the knife on my finger, I was like, don't move. And then I moved and he like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, was he. Was he like threatening you or like, were you. Were you not telling him because you were afraid of him or because you were afraid of him getting in trouble?

[Monet X Change]

I don't want. I didn't want to. I did not want him to get in trouble.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you were also low key afraid of him too. I mean, he did. He did held a knife to you and cut your hand open.

[Monet X Change]

Well, he was playing around like we were playing around. He was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He like, hilarious. I love your games. Y' all games sound fun. What else did y' all play? Punch my brother, stab My cousin.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, Justin, didn't Justin used to beat you up? No, he used to beat him up. Cause you were bigger than him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Justin and I didn't really fight.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Well, Justin, mostly. Justin would try to do stuff to Chris, but just would do stuff. Like, I get y'. All. I think I may have told y' all this story, but if I did, I'll tell you again. When, just. When just was little kids, I don't know what was going on with Justin, but one time I was downstairs and I was cooking, and I kept hearing something like, up, up. And then I said, what in the world is that? So I just kept on cooking. Now, here's what I'm saying. So I said, let me go find out what that is. So when I go, I go up the stairs. When I come around the corner, I see Justin smothering Chris. Talking about some. Talk about some, stay on my bed. But what I was hearing was every time Chris pushed just enough off him, that's when he was getting his win to scream. And then put the pistol back down on his face. And then Justin pushed the pillow back. Chris put his pillow back up. So every time I hear, oh, that's crystal, I got the pillow off his face to scream. So Chris just was trying to kill Chris. I said. So I said, what are you doing? But I was cussing. I said, what are you doing, Justin? He said, he was sitting on my bed. I said, you gonna kill him because he's sitting on your bed? He got a woman for that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See, we used to play fun games, too. My name I want to say, but,

[Monet X Change]

yeah, a knife over my finger was crazy. Justin was literally smuggling you.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

He was smothering him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah. We used to smother your little brother. Yeah, well, I was too young to fight back then. This I must have. How was I probably then you might have been five and Justin was seven. But by the time I got bigger than Justin, Justin. Justin never tried to like.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

But Justin, because he's three years old,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Justin would do things. He's two years older than me. He's born 84. I'm born 86. So it's like two years and six months.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because Justin was born. Justin's born basically at the beginning. My brother's birthday. My birthday is January 2nd. So Justin's born literally at the beginning of the year. And I'm born right in the middle of the year. My birthday is June 22nd. So I'm born, like, almost right in the middle of the year. And Justin's birthday is right at the beginning of the year. But Justin, when we get older, he would do stuff like hit me and run. Because Justin, Justin was lightning fast. I mean, Justin was just my mom also, too. My mom was the fastest track student or track star at. In the entire state of Corinth. In the 70s or 80s? 70s.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

It was in the 80s.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In the 80s when.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Why are you trying to make me older than I am?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, because then if, if, if you were 24 in 1986, not in high school, then I was in college. You the track star?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No. Well, what I, what it was, was when I was in junior high, at that time, they had something called junior high. I had. I was in junior high. I was in eighth grade. One of my friends asked me to go off a track, and I said I didn't want to, but then she was telling me, come on, just go out with me. I said, okay, I go out with you. And so I was. I made the tracks team, and she didn't. And not only did I make the track, her, not only did I make the track team, I was the fastest girl on the track team. So I ended up being the head of the track team. The fastest girl. I didn't even know I could run. That's the crazy part about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What year did you go to high school?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

82, 81. 82, 81.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then you had me five years later. We're gonna go to break. You wanna tell them we're gonna take a break.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

All right, y', all, we're going to a break. Be right there when we get back. Okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. And we are back.

[Monet X Change]

My mom played sports. My mom played netball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you just, can you tell you know what that is?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Ma, what in the world is that? Ball. Is that volleyball?

[Monet X Change]

No, it's like. So it's basically basketball without the backboard. So it's like a pole. There's like a ring around the pole.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

How you do the ball if he get past?

[Monet X Change]

You got to, like, get it in there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So every shot is nothing but net.

[Monet X Change]

Nothing but that.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Can't bank it in or nothing.

[Monet X Change]

You.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, you can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can bank it on what?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

What? You banking it on the pole.

[Monet X Change]

Like, if you, like, like dunk it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not bank, bank.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, what's banking?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's when you hit it off the backboard.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, you. Well, no, you can't do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He played basketball on there.

[Monet X Change]

No, I can't even dribble. I try. I, I, I know I'm just meant to be a. Because I just, I Cannot do any. I cannot.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Straight men can't dribble and play basketball. Justin straight. He can't throw a ball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, just. Justin can play basketball.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I said throw a softball.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, softball. Well, I can throw a softball. My mother told me how. Throw a softball. I will say this so I, you know, I. I feel like I have memories and Justin will probably deny this, but I feel like I have memories of being better at basketball than Justin was.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You were.

[Monet X Change]

Can you dribble?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can dribble. Yeah, I can dribble. I can really, like.

[Monet X Change]

Like through your legs and stuff?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

They really wanted Chris to do better and be on the basketball team, but he didn't want to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was the president of the drama club.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Chris was in the middle of school. He could. Paula. Basketball.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, you were so tall. Yeah, that was probably.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or volleyball.

[Monet X Change]

You're probably like a really valuable volleyball because you're tall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We didn't really have a volleyball and we had a volleyball team, but no one really like. I feel like it. I actually. I can't speak for all black schools, but I feel like volleyball wasn't really a thing in my school.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Was football.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, there was a volleyball team. There wasn't that. We had all the teams. The only thing that people really focused on were the basketball team, the. The football team, and then the band. The marching band.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I mean basketball.

[Monet X Change]

Say it again.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I think Chris could have been real good in basketball. I think he would have went far. But he didn't want us to practice him. He didn't want us to do anything. But they had a little tournament when he was standing with his uncle. He won the tournament.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I won the three. The three point tournament.

[Monet X Change]

I think I would have been a good football player. I did. I did JPD football. Junior play development football. And I was good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What is that?

[Monet X Change]

It's like, it's. It's like a thing that. The. That the pal. The police something alliance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You keep throwing out letters with the qvc. Well, when you go by the gop, the. The DDP will team up with Elemental P and then do the GBG gummies.

[Monet X Change]

It's something that the police did in inner city for inner city youth. For inner city youth to keep us off the street.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They play on the blue ass battle. You know, I have. I have. I have aunt who's. I. Monet has brother. I have an aunt who's a cop too. My father.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Sister.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Monet X Change]

So you are really. Blue lives matter. Like that's even. That's really. Blue lives matter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How the fact that my aunt is a cop and your brother's a cop. How is my aunt being cop more?

[Monet X Change]

Well, because I'm gonna spill the tea how your aunt got you out of jail that time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I must have never been to jail. That's not true. But I've been to jail. My aunt did not give me. Actually, your brother got you out of jail. Why are you talking. Why you talking?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Switched it on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Mon, Mon, Mon got arrested. It was also. It was shady. It was racist, and it was. It was very racist. It's this guy in. In Hell's Kitchen. I'm not going to say his name because honestly, I'm actually legit. I think he's mafia connected.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I don't.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Hell's Kitchen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hell's Kitchen. Well, the neighborhood near. It's. It's not as dangerous as TV show. No. So Hell Kitchen. So Monet was. There's this guy who owns a lot of places in Hell's Kitchen and he's a straight guy, but he owns all these gay bars. Like, he owns all these gay bars and gay restaurants.

[Monet X Change]

You get it? You have an album Stream Gay Bars by Bob the Drag Queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hold on. Someone's calling me again. Sorry. Hello? A red flag for me if anyone calls me and it started trying to talk to Chris. It's a red flag, right? If you try to speak to Caldwell or you try to speak to Bob, then I know you know me or you know someone who knows me. But if you're calling me and saying, hi, is Chris there? I'm like, you don't know me either. Unless. Unless my mom gave me my number. You don't be giving people my number. My mama does try to trick me into meeting fans, though.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How so? My mom, One day, my mom. We were. My mom picked me up from. And she was like, oh, we gotta stop by Walmart real quick. And I was like, okay, let's. Let's just go by Walmart, which is pretty standard in Georgia. You go to Walmart on the way, you pick up stuff. And then my mom was like, let's just go over to the. The cake section or the butcher section.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Butcher.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, let's go to the deli. And I'm like, okay. So my mom just standing around the deli. By the way, my mother doesn't really buy meat from the deli. She usually. We usually buy like the. The other stuff. We don't not normally have to ask him for like hog head or anything. So I was like, okay, you know, maybe Uncle Steve wants some meat. Justin needs. Justin needs me. He was. Justin was living with my mother at the time. They lived together, should I say, at the time? And. And so I was like, it could be anything. It could be any host of things. But then all of a sudden, my mom's looking around, looking for people, and then also, my mom's wearing this shirt, by the way, the Bob Drag Queen shirt. And then she bought a shirt, and then. And then she was like, this is. This is my son. So then. So then my mom's talking to this. This, like, this gay guy who works at the deli, and he's like, oh, my God, it's Bob. My mom took me to a meet and greet. It's Bob the Drag Queen. So my thought process was too. How did it come up to the guy at the deli that I was. That I was your son?

[Monet X Change]

Like, you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, did you see a gay guy? You was like, the shirt.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Some people seen me from.

[Monet X Change]

From tv.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

What you call. I guess he seen me on tv.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, the episode.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right.

[Monet X Change]

And people remember that.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You Bob Drag Queen, mom, you don't

[Bob the Drag Queen]

even see money on tv.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Oh, God. We'll see Monet on TV so much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Oh, you better not. I've been. I see you on. On Drag Race no more.

[Monet X Change]

I'm done, Ma. I'm done. I'm not doing that show ever again.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Hey, ain't no more dragging you can do unless you take. Unless you take. RuPaul plays that's what I'm saying.

[Monet X Change]

I think that they might do a competition for the new host.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you compete against me?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you win?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Aspen's called. What? Who do you think will win? If me and Monet were competing, they gonna RuPaul's Drag Race. Who do you think will win?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I pray they do. The same way he did her and the other guy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know, mom, something tells me, I think that Drag Race really lost their opportunity to have me and Monet go against each other, because Monet's obviously. I can't think of a scenario where Monet would ever even be invited back to Drag Race. But then again, I said that after All Stars and then Lauren B. Holtz. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Wait. Oh, go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was just repeating what I said.

[Monet X Change]

I was going to say, like, I think about that often. I'm like. I started going back to the sports thing. I'm like, imagine if God had different plans for us, Right? Like, what if you were meant to be a big basketball star. What if I was supposed to be like a football or not even. Like, what if we went down at such a different path? We'd be so different people. We'll be very different right now, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I mean, well. Okay, so my Uncle Scotty, I'm actually, I'm actually kind of short compared to not short, but I'm a little bit shorter than my uncle Scotty. A little bit. My uncle Scotty's like 6 4. My uncle probably 6 3. My uncle Steve's probably 6 4.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I think to me, y' all like y' all same height, but you said you shorter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A little bit. Not much though. I mean, Uncle Steve is definitely taller than me.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I don't know, I can't remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But if you want, I will show you. I'm Uncle Steve too. My Uncle Steve. You go to Patreon? I think I'm doing a little Patreon exclusive interview with Michael Steve today. I. I am. I really think I'm a spitting image of my Uncle Steve.

[Monet X Change]

I don't think so. I don't see that. I see you, you like your mom.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I see both of y' all dark skinned. That's about it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And tall and bald.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, that's it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

And gay. I'm going to tell you something. When my brother was gay, it was harder being gay then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's still gay today.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I'm saying, like, I'm talking about when he was young. Like when he was like y' all age and he was younger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you get the picture of Uncle Steve off the bookcase being gay then.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

He had so many people picking on him when he was a kid. He had so much he had to go through. Same thing Bunte had to go through.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I got a whole gay family. Well, my Cousin Avante is 19 and he just moved to Atlanta. Yeah, we'll get a new friend. And this Uncle Steve, y', all, this is probably. He was my age. He's probably younger than me in this picture.

[Monet X Change]

Uncle. He would have come on with it with his contacts. Yes, that's Uncle Steve.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We should have Uncle Steve say again, is it outback? Yeah, it's my mom's. Yeah, but was I just saying. Sorry, I was just. I got distracted easily.

[Monet X Change]

About Uncle Steve. You and Uncle Steve look alike. No. Your mom was saying it was hard for Uncle Steve being to be gay back then.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, because he used to. So he had to fight so much in school. He played basketball and he was really good in basketball. He was on the starting team. And you Know, he really did great basketball and things, but he just had to fight a lot when he was a kid because people picking on him for being gay. And then at night time, they'll try to get with him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Get with him. Like, get with him. Oh, also, I think that. That is. You know, I was talking to my cousin and it seems to be still the case in. I think it's a lot. A lot of it might be car rent, too. You know, I was lucky enough to grow up in. I know I've said this before, but if anyone's new, I grew up all over the south, but I say I'm from Atlanta. I was born in Columbus. I moved Vin City. I moved to La Grange. I moved to Mississippi. Then I moved to Atlanta. Not quite in that order. X. Where she grew up. Montague. That's where you grew up?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Corinth, Mississippi. But I was sent to Indiana. Indiana. Indianapolis. To live with my uncle for about a year or so. And then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which uncle?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Uncle Wilson. And then I went back to. I was just missing my mom. I went back to Mississippi and. But she sent me up there for better opportunities. But then I moved to Columbus, Georgia, and then.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What year was that?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Whenever your brother was born.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

84.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

And then I moved from Columbus, Georgia, to Phoenix City, Alabama, and then back to Columbus and then to Atlanta and to. Then to Decatur, then Tallinnwood, then back to. Then back over here to Stockbridge.

[Monet X Change]

See?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And now we live in Harry county, which is so, for those you don't know, weird.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

All those are suburbs in Georgia. I mean, in Atlanta area.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I try to describe it to Monet a thousand times. I try to tell Monet and. And some of us who don't know Atlanta very well, but, like, most people who live in Atlanta live in the suburbs. Everyone. Everyone in Atlanta lives in the suburbs.

[Monet X Change]

I used to live in Atlanta. I get it. I use. I. I used to live in Gwenette County. I went to Bethesda Elementary School in Gwenette county for a year.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Right. You. In Atlanta. I did used to live in Atlanta at one time, but in the house over by the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where you got trapped by the cat? Yeah, by the cat. My mother's afraid of cats.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I was trapped.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, when I say afraid of cats, I don't mean like, oh, no, a cat. Like, okay. So one time my mom called me, but I'm in college, and I was like, what is happening? She was like, chris, I am trapped in my house. I'm an hour late for work. I said, what do you mean, you tra. No, that's not what. What happened was. No, that's what happened. I came over to the house. I came.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I came over there. You was on the phone.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, this is. This is a different. Because I remember because there was two times you called. My mom called me. She was like, I am trapped in the house, and I don't know what to do. And I said, what do you mean, trapped in the house? She goes, there's like, there's a cat on my porch. And then when she tried to sneak around the back, the cat would. Would. Would peek around and look at her. So then she would run back in the house. So my mother was an hour late for work at a school, trying to. Trying to get to her car because this cat was just thinking about me

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

probably, but I thought he was thinking about me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So then I would. So for like a year after that, anyone who come over to the house, she'd be like, run. Run in the house.

[Monet X Change]

Hurry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Running. And we're like, running and watching with the cat. The cat is trying to get in my house. I was like, well, this cat is. This cat is.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I can't hold a cat level dead red on my front porch. I mean, he. Like you.

[Monet X Change]

They do that to. As an offering to like, show you that they're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're.

[Monet X Change]

They're thinking about you.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Well, I don't want him thinking about me. I don't need that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's why I don't have an outdoor cat.

[Monet X Change]

That's why I keep my cat.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Then the cat ran Junior around the house. I wish I still had that video in this house. This house here. No, he wasn't in the house. He was outside. He ran Junior around the house. But some of those reason. Cat must have been crazy or something. I don't know. But anyway, the cat, Junior came home

[Bob the Drag Queen]

from work one night, my cousin.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

And he walked down the driveway, he seen the cat sitting in the chair. So Junior told the cat to go on about his business. You said the cat jumped down. So Junior said he turned around and walked back to the front door. He said he seen the cat come out there, so he started running. He said he looked back, the cat was still running. He said cowboy beat him to the front door so he could put the code in time in the door, so he had to run back around to the other side. I see Junior on the damn video saying, oh, shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also to bear in mind to you, my cousin Junior is grown. This is not a. This is not a. Junior is 28 years old, 6ft tall, running from. Running from A cat.

[Monet X Change]

But the thing about these cats, you see these videos online about, like, these people trying to, like, put these, like, help them or whatever. And these cats will turn on you and they will, like, sing their claws into these people. And then now this cat is latched onto your side. You can't shake it off of you.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

That's why I don't like, k. I seen a cat jump straight off the ground on somebody and just in seconds.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, no, I. I didn't.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Got a little bit of the cat business attack you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they're a little vicious going.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

That won't be me. This is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is Monet exchanges cat Colleen.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I seen that cat before.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can. Can you rate this cat on a scale of 1 to 10 and. And be beauty, 10 being the most beautiful cat.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I like you and everything. I promise that cat ugly. Hell, I can't even stand to look at it. It made me just crawl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, I stand firmly on this. Someone scammed Monet. Someone just shaved. A regular cat girl sold Monet a hairless cat. This is. This cat got more hair on her head than Monet do.

[Monet X Change]

Honestly, my cat has so much hair. It's so annoying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're the hairless cat.

[Monet X Change]

I got laser. My who.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I literally have less.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet's cat is literally covered in hair,

[Monet X Change]

but it's not long hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like.

[Monet X Change]

It's like a very. Like a peach fuzz.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it peach fuzz?

[Monet X Change]

Her tail is here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, peach fuzz is like the hair on people's faces. That's peach fuzz.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

If you look and you can kind of see how there's some hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I see some hair. There's hair all over the entire cat.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

That's regular hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Someone scammed Monet. Someone sold Monet a big rat. Someone sold Master Splinter to Monet and told him it was a cat.

[Monet X Change]

I was in New York. I had to go on the subway today to go to a fitting uptown. And I was on the a train at 34th Street. And when I tell you, I was like, New York is literally just like 12 rats just running around and thinking. I'm like, I like, New York is crazy. I cannot believe I used to live here. New York is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, man. The rats have Metro cards.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The rats be using Apple pay. The rats like, hold on.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Hey, player.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hold on. Hey, hey, hey.

[Monet X Change]

We gotta, gotta express your aim.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

We was a kid, when Chris was a kid, we had got a rat in our house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I remember that.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

And I brought a rat trap. It wasn't really a rat. It Was a mouse. I went and brought a trap and it caught it and I was so scared of that thing. I know what to do. Chris goes in there like he a grown man but use a little bit of kid s. I was might be

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like 6, 6 years old. Picked it up, took Casita road, right?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Hey, pick it up or victory.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's on victory.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Drive, drive. Pick it up and take the trash. Take the rat down to the dumpster. Like it wasn't nothing. I mean he picked the rat up. I was like, oh, I can't take it. Jesus. I mean I just locked in a corner. Everybody probably steal everything. Somebody else moved in that apartment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also for seven year old that was pretty fierce. So what happened was we caught the mouse and me. So me and Justin were like in our room and then we just hear this noise and it's like woo. And we're like. So me and Justin rush in and she. So my mom is literally like she said in the corner. And the mouse is dead by the way. So we're all just standing around. Well, me and Justin are standing over this mouse strip. Oh, it was kind of twitching a little bit. So me and Justin are standing over the. Over this dying mouse and my mother is in the corner and we're figuring out how to get it to the dumpster. And I was like, well I, you know, I think I just have to, I have to do it. Otherwise we're gonna have to just live with this mouse forever. Justin wouldn't do it. So I just picked up the whole mousetrap and I was holding. I was, I was actually very proud. I was like, I was like I got it honey. And I just walked over to the. Because mice are kind, of. Mice are kind of cute a little bit. They're low key cute.

[Monet X Change]

But you weren't holding like the. But you were holding like the trap.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You weren't holding like the body. The trap. Yeah, I was so young.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Like, because when it's dead it's like lifeless and the body's probably all squishy and warm. That's gross. But holding the trap that's a little

[Bob the Drag Queen]

less like I caught a mouse in my New York City apartment in a sticky trap. By the way, if you're not willing to kill a mouse, don't use a sticky trap. Because the sticky traps do not kill them. If only use a sticky trap if you are going to watch the cat struggle and you are dedicated to that life. So I was in my apartment with this cat. I mean with this rat. I have to get my superintendent everything online. You know, all things online said. Everything online said.

[Monet X Change]

You.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You take a broomstick and stick it to the stickiness so the whole thing is stuck. And then you just put it in a bucket of water and you drown the mouse. I did not have it in me to drown this mouse because the sticky traps do. So when my old roommate used to live there, he would take the mice. I mean, you know, he was vegan. He used to take the mice to Central park and Ben used to take the mice to Central park and put oil on them and release them.

[Monet X Change]

I love being oil on the trap.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You put a little bit of olive oil on the trap and then the mice just run away. Now, Ben is. Ben is one of my friends, one of my lifelong friends that I've had not lifelong since I was in my early 20s that. That has become good friends with Martha Caldwell. And they hang out, but also think about babe, y' all don't know Honey LeBron. One day we will have Honey LeBron in the podcast. And y' all get ready because, honey,

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

you don't have a chance to say nothing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honey LeBron is one of the most interesting people I have ever met in he's wild. But she LeBron's and my mom are good Judies. If Ben is coming through Atlanta, they live with me.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Stay. He come stay with me every time he come here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And really, my mom once met him

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

at the airport stay with me every time. He always let me know he gonna be at the airport and I come and get him and then he stay with me a couple of days. Me him hang out, talk a without me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't even be knowing about it. I just. I hear about it afterwards. I'm like, oh, Ben, you know Ben. Ben got a. Ben got a real job now.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, I know.

[Monet X Change]

Really? What does he do?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I don't Some. Some. Some nine to five something girl. Ben is like living the. The. Because Ben was a hus, y'. All. When I say hustle culture. Ben was doing head shots. Ben was. I mean, Ben is like a New Yorker through. And imagine this real New Yorker with a thick midwestern accent. That is who Ben Stman is like. Ben kind of epitomizes what New York City is

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

because he had his family owns a cheesecakes cheesecake business. I said, oh, I've seen these before because I had the Cheesecake Factory.

[Monet X Change]

Ben owns a Cheesecake Factory?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No, the cheesecake they buy. You buy them in the grocery stores.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some cheesecake like Straussman's. They're real expensive, like Straussman's cheesecakes or something.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

They real obviously been their own cheesecake because when I got a shot, they sent me a whole big old variety pack.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, oh, did you find Strawsman cheesecakes, Bob? Have you tasted the cheesecake? Yeah, when we lived together, I used to have them. Yeah.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

He said, Ben. Ben said, my mother sent you those. I said, oh, okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ben doesn't advocate for them because he's vegan.

[Monet X Change]

Susie's. Susie's cheesecakes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There it is. Yep. Ben doesn't advocate for the cheesecakes because he's vegan. So he doesn't. He doesn't approve of his family's business.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He does not. That's why. That's why. That's why Ben was a hustler, because he doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't. He will not. Ben is a hardcore vegan. He will not take any money from

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

the cheesecake business because he just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is also the one. When like you, he would eat a

[Monet X Change]

burger in Bob's house, he would start playing mooing sounds of cows.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Oh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Honestly. Low key iconic. Low key iconic.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Come here. We used to go stay on. We go to dinner together and stuff. But Big can talk now. If there's a show on, you don't. You don't look at the show, but being gonna talk right through the whole show. Like, okay, I'm just sitting here listening to me and talk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to talk about things that. Things that our family do that drive us crazy while we're here. One thing my family does that I. I do not. I. I can't figure out how they all do this. First of all, my whole family, they will. Monet knows this. If we're. If we're watching tv, if we want to talk, we need to pause.

[Monet X Change]

You're the cause you don't. You don't follow that rule.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I paused it. I paused to speak words. I'm the one who will I pause. Even if. Even. Even if I'm saying one second of a word, I pause it. I keep pausing way too much. Not if we're in a movie theater. I can't pause in a movie theater. I can't pause in a movie theater. Obviously, this.

[Monet X Change]

This is us in a movie theater at a movie with Bob. Girl, why? Girl, why they over there? No, she knows she not over there. Which. Am I right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like watching the movie. Please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I think of funny things I want to say, and I want to tell the joke to you. So I think when they would appreciate my jokes, I feel like girl, she look looking like the Scarlet. If anything.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

That way, pretty always could never stop talking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My family, they will talk through the show. They will play shows in the background. Also, everyone in my family is always getting calls from everyone in my family. If you guys don't know. I have 13 uncles and aunts. My mother has eight siblings, my brother has five. So I. I have 13 uncles and Aunts, right? And then not to mention some of them are married. So I have. So I have even more if you think about the. The people they're married to. You know what I mean? So I. I have all together probably almost 20 uncles and aunts. And it's. So they're always constantly calling each other. And not to mention, I have some. I have a few. One cousin who's. We're cousins on both sides, meaning our mothers are sisters and our fathers are brothers. Because my mother and her sister were dating my father and his brother, so. So me and my cousin Angela are related on both sides of the family. Does that make sense?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

They double cousins.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because. Because our moms are sisters and our dads are brothers.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It'd be like if. If you and your brother started dating two siblings.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, so. So the. So the families are all interweaved. We're always calling each other, but they would just answer the phone in the middle of the room, like. And Uncle Steve's phone is very. I don't know what this man's phone is, but this mug is like they're wrecking ring. So Uncle Steve keeps his ringtone at maximum volume. So everyone's talking. It's like, hello, Moto.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Boom,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

boom. And then, and then he has the phone. And then my mom gets a call. So he's talking about Lisa. My mom's talking to M. Hazel. And then my niece is on FaceTime with her. With. With her friends. And then. And then. But they're all in the same room. No one leaves to do their calls. Everyone just sits in the same room, talk on phone, talk to different people. I don't know how they're able to even process like that. It's a lot for me.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Process. It doesn't bother me when you raise around a lot of people. Like some people say, well, I need this and I need that to go sleep. The room got to be dark. This got to be that. The smack got to be this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Just Jacob.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I don't need all that. I was raised with nine other people. If you can find a cor. Lay down, go to sleep. You just find a cor. Lay down, go to sleep. Lights could be your own. People be in the room talking. I don't care. It could be sunshine and nighttime. It don't matter to me. I can go to sleep. But nowadays, people need to have so many preferences.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Jacob. Jacob. Really? Me and Jake were laying down last night talking, and Jacob was just like, it just is wild to me that you have so many cousins, so many first cousins. And I was like, Yo, I have 13 uncles and aunts, so, yeah, I'm gonna have a lot of first cousins. And I'm also not really under, Like, I don't. So, okay. Avante is my cousin. He's 19. His mother is my first cousin.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Right.

[Monet X Change]

Was he named after the singer Avant?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no. I don't. I don't know what Amanda was. Was. I don't know how Amanda came up with the name of Monte.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I don't know. Yeah, he came up with him, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that's how a lot of people came over there.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

How did you come up with your dick?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our names are Chris and Justin.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I came up with Justin's name. I just always like the name. Well, I'll try to make just first name be Blake. That's what I wanted his first name to be, Blake.

[Monet X Change]

I like Blake. That's a nice name.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

So I could never find a second name. So I was going into labor that day. I said, I gotta find a name. So where are my finger dropping this book? That's what's gonna be his name. So my finger dropped on the name Justin. So then I said naming him Blake Justin. It didn't sound right, so I just named Justin Blake and Chris. I always liked to name Christopher, so I wanted to name him Christopher, but I couldn't think of a middle name for Christopher. And so me and his Auntie Lisa was riding around and we tried to think of a name. And then we seen this building in Columbus, Georgia, an apartment building. He had the name of Del Mar on it and Del Mar Apartments. I said, that's gonna be his name right there. Del Mar. So we named out the apartment building Christopher Del Mar Caldwell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I used to drive by the apartment building all the time as a kid, and like, oh, my God, this building has my. My name on it. And then one day my mom was like, yeah, you're named after that building,

[Monet X Change]

the cdc, by the way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It wasn't like a particularly nice building. It was just like a regular. It Was just. It wasn't like, ooh, what a fancy building. It was just a regular old apartment building that said Del Mar on it. So. And you know Del Mar means from the sea in Spanish.

[Monet X Change]

Of the sea.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It can be from the sea or of the sea. They, you know, of and from are the same in Spanish, but. But then we added an A to the middle, so it was. But it's still pronounced Del Mar. It's D E L A M A R. Del Mar apartment. Is that it, Ma?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Let me see.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was bigger on the building, though, wasn't it?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, it was a bigger sound. It's probably multiple signs around it. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Del Mar. Delamar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can you Google rent in the Del Mar apartments? You two could live in my. My namesake. You two could live in the building that I was named after for a small fee if you want to live on. This is it on south side of Columbus.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

On a stick.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If it was probably the same as it was forever. All right, Monet, you have any final questions for Mother before we vanish her?

[Monet X Change]

No, I love. I love spending time with Ms. Caldwell. Say it again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I said vanish. I meant to say banish.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

What's the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag her.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No, you act like you're tired.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Drag her.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not tired.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You seem like it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you look it. Read her, Mom. Read her down. Yeah. Let's talk about the bags under the eyes. Let's talk about.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I'm saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, we're ignoring the bags of that.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I ain't saying you got bags on your eyes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If they were. We're not talking about them.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I'm saying you just look like you're tired.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm here.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

He's like, you're disinterested.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, this is what I can deal with every time on the podcast. Monet. You know what it is, Monet? Someone pointed this out. I didn't realize that someone pointed it out. Someone pointed out. Now I can't unsee it.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Moan. Okay, I. Monet, do me a favor and do not lie to me. Do not lie to me. Hold your hands up like this so I know you're not lying. Grab your phone. Grab your phone right now. Take a picture of the screen. Take a picture of the screen.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Of the computer screen.

[Monet X Change]

On the computer screen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes. Take a picture of the computer screen. 1. Let me make sure my flights are 1, 2, 3. Now I'm going to send you my picture. Now, I cannot confirm this or deny this, but a lot of the fans were like, monet's not listening to Bob, she's looking at herself. Monet's just looking at herself. Now, here's the thing. You'll notice on my screen, Monet is bigger than I am because I'm looking at Monet. I have a sneaking suspicion that Monetized. I am not big on her screen.

[Monet X Change]

You're incorrect. I just literally said to the group,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

let me. Let me send it to the group.

[Monet X Change]

It's the one with you, Jay and Jacob. I didn't realize I sent it to the wrong. But it's the same thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know you. You know what, Monet? You ate that. But one time, the fans pointed out. The fans were like, monet is just looking at herself the whole time. Monet be like, I'd be in a deep story about my childhood trauma. I'm gonna be like, one time, there's this clip on the Internet.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

She was looking like she was doing something else. Like, she's not interested.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm here. I'm trying not to cut. Because it's two of y' all on one side. I'm trying not to cut anyone off. So I don't want to, like, jump the gun and say something while you're talking.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I'm saying, you don't. Not even looking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Once I. Years ago, I told Monet, like, you

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

know, when y' all said. Chris told me that whenever we came back from RuPaul, he said, right there, camera. So we stand over here. We're probably looking at the camera.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

That's what I said. I could tell that now that I look at it. Now that he's not actually looking at them, but when they.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Training for the position years ago, there's a clip of me.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

She's looking down while you talking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There's a clip of me on the podcast talking to Monet. I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I'm trying to get. Tell Monet about. When I tried to buy you a. You don't even know what this. My mother. My mother has lung damage, and I was looking on the black market, trying to buy a lung on the black market. I went to this whole story about. About telling Mon about how I was. I was, like, sad, and I was, like, trying to buy this lung on the black market. And then after this whole story, when they goes, do you like my nails? That is not true.

[Monet X Change]

That is not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when I find it, are you. Are you going to deny it once I find it? That is not true, Monet. When I find this video, are you gonna still deny it.

[Monet X Change]

Ms. Caldwell. Anyway, so when y' all do the family reunion, do all these people come out to the family union? All these cousins and aunts and uncles?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Majority of them do. A lot of people.

[Monet X Change]

And where do y' all do it? In like, a. In like a. Because that's. That's like, what, 50 plus people?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Well, yeah, it'd be over 100 people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A hundred people?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Sometimes be almost 200.

[Monet X Change]

That's a lot of people. Also, to cater for that many people, who's cooking all that? Like, the aunts and uncles cook all that food.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, well, my whole family cooks, so. Everyone in the family is always something.

[Monet X Change]

Everybody does a little something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's not true. Not everybody. I don't cook. I. You cook at all? I mean, I can cook, but, like, I follow instructions. I can't. I can't cook without instructions.

[Monet X Change]

I don't. When I cook, I just cook by feeling. I don't ever use instructions. Yeah, Like, I. Like. I know a lot of the things from when I was a kid and my mom would cook, and I just kind of remember, like, I remember how to make chicken delicious. I remember how to make Mac and cheese. I remember how to make sweet potato casserole. Like, I just remember how to make it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I don't. I don't. I also just don't get any joy from cooking. Cooking is not fun for me, really.

[Monet X Change]

You know, like, making something for people and then they eat it, like, and see, like, they're eating it. That.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That.

[Monet X Change]

That feels good to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like ordering food for people and then watching them enjoy the food that I order. That feels nice. Watching. You know what I love to do? Walk around with my phone and getting orders for UberEats. What you want, know what you want, Know what you want, know what you want.

[Monet X Change]

But the joy of putting the work and the energy and the love into a meal and baking it and cooking it and seeing someone like, mmm, that tastes so good, like, know that you put your heart and soul into it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just told you, I don't get any joy from that. I. I feel like you keep asking me and I keep telling you I don't like it. It's not fun for me.

[Monet X Change]

Ms. Collins, do you like to cook?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Yeah, I don't want to do it every day, though.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

And I'm a good cook.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you making that face? Why are you making that face? Making the face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

See, you are a rat. See, I. I don't believe you. He said your brother was sitting on each other.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

You are a rat.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You are. You're a snitch. Why were you a tattletale? You're a tattletale.

[Monet X Change]

Why are we making that face?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a tattletail.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Thank you, Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You are a tattletail. See, this is. You know what? I'm about to put a knife to your finger right now and tell you not to move. Now I see why Sean did that. I'm Team Sean. I'm Team Sean. I see why Sean did that. You deserved it. You got what you deserve that day.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Oh, Lord.

[Monet X Change]

Wow, my trauma. Thank you. Look at my finger. This is this. I still have the stitches right there. Well, the mark from the stitches right there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I was saying that my, my mom. Okay, I was looking the face because I don't know that my mom was, like, cooking a lot as a kid. But also, to be fair, my mother had several jobs. My mother had several jobs and was raising two kids and a dog.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

When he was a kid, he, like, he missed any meals depending on what year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In seventh grade, I was real skinny, but that was, that was. I wasn't missing meals. I just happened to be real skinny.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

That's because you was living with Scotty then when you didn't sound great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Scotty fed a church of chicken every day, which I don't even know if those are still in existence anymore. No, I live with you. I live with you seventh. I live with you starting seventh grade. I live with Scotty in sixth grade. I watch you from seventh grade to 12th grade. I live with my aunt Hazel for fifth grade and my uncle Scotty for sixth grade.

[Monet X Change]

What you said is not there anymore. You said you, you don't know if that's not there anymore.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Church is chicken.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, church. Yeah, church. I've seen church's chickens around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's my uncle.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Church chickens around here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, right.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

They don't have church chicken and McDonald's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I, I, I hate church. Of chicken. I hate church.

[Monet X Change]

It's just like Popeyes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It, that's, that's a falsehood.

[Monet X Change]

That is false in my, in my opinion.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

Don't taste like Popeyes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you, Mom. Sweetness or something too greasy.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

It's got like a greasy grease. Grease. Gre. Grease.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mon. Fried chicken.

[Monet X Change]

Do you know that they put a levain in LA now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I heard it's a bakery.

[Monet X Change]

A bakery.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They sell, like, biscuit cookies.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, they're huge cookies. They're very good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, we have gone off track. We have pulled us real simple. Robert Monet, I love you very much.

[Monet X Change]

I love you too, Roberta. Ms. Caldwell, I love you very much. It's always a pleasure having you on the podcast. And thank you for supporting me and commenting on my post. And even though sometimes my stuff is a little salacious, even though I be a little naked sometimes, I appreciate the support.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No, you don't know. It would be too much.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, let's go.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's. Let's go through some of Monet's post and we can. We can rank them right now. Hold on. We're gonna go through some of Monet's post in this moment, and we're gonna say we're gonna see if you think these posts are. Are. Are too much or not.

[Monet X Change]

Let's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's. Let's try this one. What do you think of this postman?

[Monet X Change]

Which one? Let me see.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I don't know what he was trying to do right there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me see.

[Monet X Change]

Which one?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I don't know. What the hell you doing? Right? Can you. Can you.

[Monet X Change]

Which one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The viewers will know. You won't know, but the viewers will. What are you seeing in this post?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

I'm seeing too much booty and some shoes. I don't know if he giving some Martian love or what are you trying to call the fuck down?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mom, what do you think about not UberEats? Oop, sorry. What about. What about this one, Mom?

[Monet X Change]

You get a guy when you actually click on your.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

That's. Come on, boys and get it. Knock knee at that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't be posing stuff like this. Look at this, mama.

[Monet X Change]

What, Bob, what are you showing?

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

What you trying to do? You trying to get on Monet? I am. All right? I am.

[Monet X Change]

We got to go. Bobby, stop showing those pictures.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mother thinks she a baddie.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

She more than a baddie. She try to get up there with Mega Stallion.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mona think she on Love and hip hop or something. I showed her. All right, so, yeah, I don't post nothing like that.

[Ms. Martha Caldwell]

No, you don't.

[Monet X Change]

Let me go on your Twitter and show your mom that picture you posted from Berkeley. I'll show your mom that picture that you put on Twitter. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Find it? No, I didn't post no nasty picture. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. The picture was not nasty. This is. This is pornography. I wouldn't even. I wouldn't let my niece see this, and she's 30.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you lucky I'm on your page. I'm trying to search Berkeley. I don't know what to search upon this picture.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We have to go. Thank you so much, everyone, for joining us on the podcast. We love you all. See you all next time.