The One With Bruno

Summary

Sibling Rivalry – "The One With Bruno" (Jan 26, 2026)

Podcast: Sibling Rivalry
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Guest: Bruno Alcantara (RuPaul’s Drag Race Pit Crew)
Producer: Studio71 & Confetti Cannon

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Overview

In this vibrant and laugh-filled episode, Bob and Monét welcome the "fierce, talented, and funny" Bruno Alcantara, beloved member of RuPaul’s Drag Race Pit Crew, for a candid, playful, and heartfelt conversation. The trio dive into topics ranging from Brazilian culture, Bruno’s journey from Bahia to LA, life on Drag Race, Brazilian fandom, representation and beauty standards, to subcultures and dating in the LGBTQIA+ world. The episode offers an engaging blend of humor, flirtation, and genuine insights into queerness, visibility, and the unique challenges (and perks) of being a queer celebrity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Portuguese Language Challenge & Bruno’s Roots ([01:14]–[03:23])

• The episode opens with a playful Portuguese word game, showing the trio’s fun chemistry.
• Bruno shares he’s from Bahia, Brazil, known for its rich Black culture and Carnival.
• “Bahia is the biggest black community outside of Africa. Oh, so full of flavor. Best music, best carnival.” – Bruno ([02:56])

2. Bruno’s Move to the US & Drag Race Journey ([03:29]–[04:18])

• Bruno originally came to LA for a 3-month English course in 2014, not speaking English.
• Through connections (noted especially via the Madonna tour), he ended up getting called for the Pit Crew via Michelle Visage’s contact ([22:31]).
• “I actually came just to English school for three months, and I was gonna go back to Brazil.” – Bruno ([03:54])

3. Charm, Positivity & Energy – Bruno’s Secrets ([04:19]–[06:02])

• The trio discuss Bruno's positive and charming aura:
  • “Part of what makes people so attracted to you is you seem so happy and almost oblivious to the fact that you’re really attractive.” – Bob ([05:00])
  • Bruno credits intentional positivity: “I choose to be as nice as I can...life is tough.” ([05:29])

4. Friendship, Recharging, and Social Energy ([06:52]–[07:57])

• Bruno and the hosts discuss needing downtime to recharge after social events; Bruno admits to loving his alone time in order to recover social energy.

5. Pets, Personality Types, and Bob’s Animal Theory ([09:03]–[09:58])

• Light-hearted debate about whether people are more like dogs, cats, or even bugs.
• Monét: “I think you’re a dog, girl.”
  Bob: “No, I’m a cat because of my, like, not niceness and my grumpiness...a cat would be like, I don’t fuck with you anymore.” ([09:22])

6. Plastic Surgery, Medical Tourism & Body Positivity ([10:06]–[11:13])

• Conversation turns to plastic surgery and the culture of "getting work done" in Brazil and Mexico.
• “I mean, I’m a fan of plastic surgery.” – Monét ([11:08])
• Concerns about language barriers and safety when traveling for surgery.

7. Brazilian Fandom & National Energy ([11:43]–[12:55])

• Discussion of the passion and intensity of Brazilian fans, especially at big events.
• Bob shares an overwhelming experience during Madonna’s Rio show: “...they had to build a bridge from the hotel to the beach because we couldn’t walk on the street.” ([12:31])
• Bruno cites Brazilian passion for celebration and happiness despite hardships.

8. The Obsession with Big Brother Brazil ([13:07]–[14:24])

• Bruno’s dream to be on “Big Brother Brazil,” emphasizing its cultural impact.
• Describes the intense audition process—being isolated for 10 days before entry.
• “I would love to work more in Brazil and...Big Brother is one of the biggest shows.” – Bruno ([14:03])

9. Celebrity in Brazil & Self-Perception ([14:27]–[15:53])

• Bruno humbly downplays his celebrity, yet acknowledges being recognized on the streets.
• “I just want to have fun. I’m Brazilian, so this is my thing.” – Bruno ([14:45])

10. Brazilian Beauty & Sexual Energy ([15:15]–[15:53])

• Bob and Monét marvel at how "sexy" Brazilians are. Bruno credits the energy and zest for life.

11. Drag Race Pit Crew – The Celebrity Experience ([20:00]–[22:31])

• The trio highlight that Bruno is one of the only Drag Race queens or crew ever to sit on the judges panel, a fact that makes many queens jealous.
• On RuPaul: “RuPaul, like, loves you.” – Bob ([21:24])

12. Working with Madonna; Showbiz Connections ([23:01]–[23:52])

• Bruno’s chance to work with Madonna through hairdresser Andy Lecom, and his time doing production in Brazil.
• “I did work in production before. When it came to the chance to work with Madonna, what I did not expect at all.” – Bruno ([23:18])

13. Dating, Attraction & The Sibling Rivalry Dating Game ([24:18]–[28:06])

• Bruno describes his ‘type’: self-awareness, confidence, and a “little obsession for me.”
• Bob and Monét engage in a hilarious, faux-competitive dating Q&A, complete with sexual preferences and emotional healing journeys:
  • On healing: “My mother passed away...and I processed it by talking about my feelings...” – Bob ([29:18])
  • “I am not a final lip sync. I am more than that. I am a fierce queen.” – Monét ([30:24])

14. Joy, Gratitude, and Simple Pleasures ([31:06]–[32:36])

• Bruno shares a favorite inspirational book: “The Daily Book of Positive Quotations.”
• They reflect on life’s small pleasures and what truly makes them happy.

15. Drag Race Pit Crew – Behind The Scenes ([35:29]–[40:21])

• Pit Crew logistics: covering for FCC rules, how casting works, who gets called, and seniority.
• Bruno describes being scouted via connections and test shoots.
• On career longevity: “When do you stop being, like, the sexy person on camera? Or...what’s next?” – Bob ([40:21])
• “That’s why I’ve been trying to do new things...being on Drag Race, people don’t get to see all the sides.” – Bruno ([40:52])

16. Queer Subcultures: Daddies, Twinks, Wolves & Cross-Cultural Terms ([41:33]–[46:55])

• The hosts explain gay subcultures, and Bruno shares that most terms exist in Brazil, usually in translation.
• “Ursos are bears, for sure.” – Bruno ([47:02])

17. Celebrity, Social Media, and DMs ([49:01]–[52:22])

• Bruno reveals the wild world of DMs: “Sometimes it’s like, wow, you really went all the way, huh?...Have I ever used Instagram to have a hookup? Yes, I have.” ([50:04], [50:14])
• Discussion of Grindr woes, fan encounters, and proof-of-identity struggles:
  • “The amount of proofs you need to give is so annoying.” – Bruno ([51:12])
  • “I’m not justifying this behavior by rewarding you with your request.” – Monét ([51:29])

18. How to Shoot Your Shot with Bruno ([52:50])

• Bruno: “I love a guy with attitude. I love when somebody actually have the audacity to say, I want you. I’m into you now. You have to feel it later on, because what is this about, right?...Is it the idea you have of me?” ([52:50])

19. The Sibling Rivalry Dating Game—Dating Scenarios ([53:23]–[56:50])

• Bob and Monét perform flirty, hypothetical pick-up scenes.
• Bruno affirms, “They’re both very authentic...You want to let me know that you want it.” ([56:54])

20. Reality TV Talk: Traitors & Big Brother ([58:01]–[60:19])

• Discussion of "The Traitors" and why Bruno would be both loved (and at risk for that reason) on competitive reality shows.
• Bob: “…on the Traitors…if you’re like someone who would never be voted out…they will just—the Traitors will murder you…” ([58:33])
• Bruno: “I avoid drama as much as possible.” ([59:14])

21. Favorite Drag Race Queens & Friendships ([61:38]–[62:46])

• Bruno mentions affection for queens like Morphine, Vanjie and especially Valentina.
• Bruno: "I love Murphy. I love Latina…Vanjie too, of course. Valentina!" ([62:07])

22. Final Decision—Sibling Rivalry Dating Game Finale ([63:23]–[64:16])

• Bruno, after consideration, “Well, listen, I heard amazing things from you, but I know you’re about to get married. You are not single. And that’s gonna be my—my right here. You lose.” ([63:42])
  THE WINNER: Bob (by default!).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On attitude and attraction:
  “I love a guy with attitude. I love when somebody actually have the audacity to say, I want you. I’m into you now.” – Bruno ([52:50])
• On positivity:
  “I do have intention to show up with the best energy possible wherever I go.” – Bruno ([05:22])
• On Brazilian fandom:
  “The fandom was so wild, they had to build a bridge from the hotel to the beach because we couldn't walk on the street.” – Bob ([12:31])
• On healing:
  “My mother passed away...and I processed it by talking about my feelings...I think that was probably my biggest healing I’ve ever had to do.” – Bob ([29:18])
• On resilience:
  “I am not a final lip sync. I am more than that. I am a fierce queen.” – Monét ([30:24])
• On self-awareness:
  “Self-awareness, confidence. A little obsession for me.” – Bruno on what he wants in a man ([24:18])
• On being a queer icon:
  “You have a beautiful smile...do you like, use your sexiness to get you things? I would.” – Bob ([04:22])
• On body positivity & aging:
  “I’ll be that, showing my body forever, as long as they want me.” – Bruno ([41:20])
• On social media flirtation:
  “Have I ever used Instagram to have a hookup? Yes, I have.” – Bruno ([50:14])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction & Portuguese Language Challenge: [01:14]–[03:23]
• Bruno’s Journey to LA & Drag Race: [03:29]–[04:18]
• Charm & Positivity: [04:19]–[06:02]
• Brazilian Fandom & Energy: [11:43]–[12:55]
• Plastic Surgery & Medical Tourism: [10:06]–[11:13]
• Dating Game & Emotional Healing: [24:18]–[30:41]
• Pit Crew Secrets & Casting: [35:29]–[40:21]
• Queer Subculture Terms in Brazil: [41:33]–[46:55]
• Celebrity DMs/Hooks-ups: [49:01]–[52:22]
• Shooting Your Shot with Bruno: [52:50]
• Sibling Rivalry Dating Game (Roleplay): [53:23]–[56:50]
• Reality TV, Traitors & Big Brother: [58:01]–[60:19]
• Bruno’s Favorite Queens: [61:38]–[62:46]
• Final Dating Game Results: [63:23]–[64:16]

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Tone & Vibe

The episode is characteristically jovial, irreverent, and sincere. It blends rapid-fire humor, raunchy banter, and meaningful conversation about growth, healing, fame, queerness, and finding love. The chemistry between Bob, Monét, and Bruno keeps the episode engaging and personal—offering both laughs and cultural insight throughout.

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For More

Follow Bruno Alcantara on Instagram:
@brunocalcantara ([64:40])

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

My name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[C]

And I'm Monet X Change.

[A]

And this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, we invite Bruno to the podcast, we break his heart, and we find out what made Bruno say this.

[C]

I don't see myself this way. We find out what made Bob say this.

[B]

I mean, people didn't like me. And we found out what made Monet say this.

[A]

I mean, I'm a fan of plastic surgery.

[B]

First, we're gonna start by doing. We're gonna go word for word and see who knows the most Portuguese.

[A]

I only know two things.

[B]

Okay. I'm gonna say obrigado.

[A]

I know obrigado as well.

[B]

You can't use my word.

[A]

Cra. Kura.

[B]

I just taught you krakura.

[A]

You did not. I told you about cr.

[C]

I can be watching you guys all day.

[B]

I learned kakura from Alaska.

[A]

Oh, my God. Alaska told me too, when I did Brazil with her.

[B]

Pasifona.

[A]

Pasivo.

[C]

Pasivo.

[B]

Alo. Alo.

[A]

Joao.

[C]

Joao.

[B]

Who has the best Brazilian accent of you two?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, give me one more. What about I give you a word and then you both.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[C]

Let's say saudaji.

[A]

Saudaji.

[B]

Saudaji.

[C]

That was very.

[A]

Italian. You don't get to go twice. Gustozo.

[C]

There was a tiny thank you.

[B]

What she learned from my mistakes.

[A]

And ladies and gentlemen, we. This is a cold open for our very.

[B]

You don't have to tell him. It's a cold open name.

[A]

Well, Bob, you started podcast before even introducing anyone.

[B]

You don't have to say.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have the very gorgeous, fierce, talented, and funny. And funny Bruno Alcantara.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

How was that pronunciation?

[C]

Alcantara. Oh, Alcantara for Americans. But you're almost a Brazilian at this point, so.

[A]

Hey, I want to go to Brazil more. I've only been once. I want to go more. Yeah.

[B]

Where you from in Brazil.

[C]

I'm originally from Bahia. Bahia. So Bahia is the biggest black community outside of Africa. Oh, so full of flavor. Best music, best carnival.

[A]

Okay. So my. Me. So my best friend and my best friend Dwan, we went to Brazil together, and we were going to go to Carnival next year in Bahia, but it was. We started doing it too late, and we're going to not have. So we. We need more planning time because apparently it's the best carnival in the entire country.

[C]

I mean, that's. Everyone says that's when I feel the happiest in my life.

[B]

When did you move to L. A?

[C]

2014.

[B]

Oh, so you, like, so what, nine years ago? 11.

[C]

Almost 12.

[B]

I can do math, I swear.

[A]

You do math very well.

[B]

When you came. When you came to the States, were you, like, I'm going to be on tv, I'm going to get into acting, or did you, like, trip? How did you end up on Drag Race?

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

You clearly don't watch the Monet Talks episode of Bruno.

[B]

I don't watch Monetize.

[A]

Clearly.

[C]

I actually came just to English school for three months.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[C]

And I was gonna go back to Brazil.

[B]

Did you speak English when you came here?

[C]

No.

[B]

Not at work. Nothing.

[A]

That's fierce. I. I feel like if I was. I mean, I guess if I was. If I went to a country and I. And I did, like, let's say they put me in Japan. In Japan, you kind of just. You, You. You either it's fight or flight. Either you learn it or you go home. Or you're just a mess.

[B]

Or you take the lesson. He took the lesson.

[C]

Or you just smile around and you're like, yeah.

[B]

I mean, you do have a. Does your smile get you out of a lot? You have a beautiful smile. You always seem so happy. Have you ever, like, used your smile to get out of stuff?

[C]

I mean, I've been doing this for years, right, the smile.

[A]

That's why I'm like.

[C]

I have no idea what they're talking about.

[B]

But, like, do you, like, use your sexiness to, like, get you things? I would.

[C]

I think the intention behind is not like, you. I mean, I'm just. This way. I'm the way I am. I don't think I. Okay, I'm gonna play sexy so that way I can get this. Not really.

[B]

Part of your. Your appeal, too, is that you. You don't show sexiness in a way that's like. It's like a very, like, charming. You're smiling a lot. It's not like mugging and serving I think part of what makes people so attracted to you is that you seem so happy and almost oblivious to the fact that you're really attractive.

[C]

Oh, thank you for that. I do have intention to show up with the best energy possible wherever I go.

[A]

I mean, if I feel that, I.

[C]

Think, you know, life is tough. And I think I really appreciate people that they show up very kind and present and. Because I know so that it's not because their life is perfect, but because they are choosing to be this way. And I choose to be as nice as I can.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And, you know, and I think his mining can make a big change and.

[A]

Well. So you and Bobby. I just did that. That. That drag stars cruise together.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Was it cute?

[B]

I mean, people didn't like me because I'm not as happy and smiling.

[C]

What do you mean?

[B]

Well, everyone's like, I was mean. People said I was mean. And I was like, I mean, I guess I'm not smiley. I'm not like, you know, I don't smile as much as you do. I'm not like, hi. And people were like, bob, is anyone tell you that I was mean to them?

[C]

I mean, I did not hear that. But, yeah, everybody was there to see you. Come on. I was there in the theater, and.

[B]

I. I think I'm actually a pretty nice. I'm not. I'm not overly nice. I was watching Dick Van Dyke. He just turned 100 yesterday.

[A]

Oh, Dick Van Dyke is still alive?

[B]

Very much so.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Very much alive.

[A]

God bless him.

[B]

And he was like, you know how I live this long just being nice. And I was like, I'm. I'm cooked.

[A]

You're one from the grave, girl.

[C]

You don't think you're nice?

[B]

I'm nice enough. I'm like, as nice as the next person, but I'm not. I'm not overly nice.

[A]

No.

[B]

I don't have it in me to be, like, super nice. I just don't. It seems exhausting. But you don't seem exhausted at all.

[C]

I mean, I do need time alone a lot. And, like, I don't want to interact with people, see people sometimes.

[A]

I was gonna say, how do you recharge? I think for me, how I, like, recharge is being alone and not talking to anyone. Even like, after. I just had an engagement party at my house, and a lot of people came over the next day. I didn't want to see her talk to anyone, even Andy. I was like, do not go to the other room. Do not talk to me. I just. Because I feel Like, I gave out so much energy of.

[B]

Hi, how are you?

[C]

Good.

[B]

I can't. I don't. I don't have all this. So tell me about the party. I. I heard that some. That there was a ceremony between the. The animals.

[A]

So I had an engagement party.

[B]

When I had an engagement.

[C]

No, no, no. Congratulations.

[B]

Thank you. I also didn't get an invite.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

It's true. We didn't get invites. Can you acknowledge that? Anyway, you acknowledge our feelings, please.

[A]

I'm moving on. So, Bruno.

[B]

See, Bruno's hurt. Look at that.

[A]

BMIP has a day. And then. So I have a cat and he has a dog.

[B]

I just wanna. Do you have Bruno's phone number?

[A]

Actually, I know I don't have Bruno's phone number.

[B]

No.

[A]

We need to text more. I don't have your number.

[C]

I think I have yours. I mean, I have to check.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Bruno.

[A]

You do not have my number. Bruno.

[C]

No.

[A]

No, I don't think so. I would like for us to have numbers.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

No, I would give you.

[B]

So maybe Bruno can get invited to the wedding. Maybe.

[A]

Absolutely. Bruno's. Bruno's definitely Bruno. Can you officiate my wedding? Oh, my God.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And get a good rate.

[A]

That's a no. Bruno said, wow.

[B]

And get a good rate.

[C]

I mean, it's a bigger responsibility. I have officiated a friend's wedding.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[B]

A friend. One who invites him to the engagement party.

[A]

Anyways.

[B]

So you want Bruno to come as a servant to your wedding?

[A]

So. And my fiance had this idea where he wanted to put his dog in a tuxedo and my cat in a wedding gown, and they have a thing at the party where they. I don't know what the fuck you're gonna do.

[B]

I can't imagine Colleen participating.

[A]

Exactly. Colleen, she doesn't like putting clothes on.

[B]

She doesn't like being around people.

[A]

No, she was actually mingling. She was outside. She was on the roof at one point. Colleen got on the roof? How? I don't know.

[B]

Cats can go in. That's the difference. Cats and your dog. If you put something on the counter, you have a small dog. They can't get up there. Your cat can go anywhere. Your cat can get on the roof. If your cat wants to hell out, you can't get on the ceiling.

[A]

Exhibit A. Yeah, she's walking on the ceiling.

[B]

Cats open doors.

[A]

Yeah, my cat opens doors.

[B]

It's too much.

[A]

Do you have a pet?

[C]

I. I am the pet. Yeah. I need to be pet.

[A]

Bob has this theory that everyone's an animal.

[B]

Yeah, you're you're definitely a dog. Definitely a dog.

[A]

And what are you?

[C]

So I heard.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I'm. I'm a cat.

[A]

I don't. I. I disagree. I think you're a dog girl.

[B]

No, no, I'm a cat because. Because of my, like, not niceness and my kind of grumpiness and my directness and. Whereas a dog is, like, smiley, and they're just so forgiving and, like, you can't do a dog wrong. The dog will always forgive you. And the slightest inconvenient. A cat would be like, I don't fuck with you anymore.

[A]

But you also think some people are bugs as well.

[B]

Yeah, well, they know everyone looks like an animal. Oh, so you're. What's his name? Dalton. Is a bug.

[A]

Looks like a bug. Yeah.

[B]

You're kind of a bug, too. It's not a bad thing.

[A]

No, you can be a dog, a bug.

[B]

You can be a bug and be beautiful. It's because you have big eyes.

[A]

You have big. I wish I had big eyes. So I started surgery to get bigger eyes. Oh, no.

[C]

Really?

[A]

I know.

[B]

I think it's time to slow down.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's time to.

[A]

I want to get rib sculpt to bring my ribs in. I want to get my eyes hurt to get my eyes bigger. I mean, I'm a fan of plastic surgery.

[B]

You know what? It's your body.

[C]

You got a little. You got to go to Brazil then.

[A]

Because, see, but I'm afraid of getting plastic surgery in a place where I don't speak the language, like, primarily to me, like, that. That gives me anxiety.

[B]

We have very good doctors.

[A]

Oh, I know. I know. But I'm just. It's my own thing of, like, I just want to make sure I speak because, I mean, Trinity goes to Mexico a lot. She gets a lot of her surgeries done in Mexico.

[B]

That's. I just saw a whole thing online. A lot of people who are going to. They're crossing the border. They live in. They live in, like, South Texas. They're crossing the border to get their teeth done because they can't afford what would cost $3,000 here, 800 bucks in Mexico.

[A]

That's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.

[B]

I mean, I.

[A]

My.

[B]

My. My. Silas got his teeth done in Brazil when we were there for. For the Madonna.

[C]

Brazil is very good for all of the changes. You want to wait where.

[B]

I've been to Sao Paulo, which is the capital.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[C]

I mean, not the capital, but it's the biggest city.

[A]

Rio is.

[B]

No, no. Rio is not the capital. Brazilia.

[C]

Brazilia is the capital.

[B]

I've been to Brazil. I've been to Sao Paulo. I've been to Rio de Janeiro. I went to some other town. It's like. They say it's like Palm Springs, but. But in Brazil, it's like, Some be. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's like, beachy. So it's not Palm Springs. I guess it's like Florida, but I.

[A]

Guess all of Brazil is beachy.

[B]

No, not all, I guess, but a.

[C]

Lot of Brazil is by the beach.

[B]

There was some town that was like. I can't remember the name. I've done five town, five stops in Brazil.

[C]

How'd you like it?

[B]

I gotta say. Can you tell me what it is about Brazil? Like, what is up with the fan culture in Brazil? Like, y', all. When y' all love someone, it's crazy. It's like. I've never seen anything like it ever.

[C]

We are very passionate people.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And we love to celebrate life.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

The energy. So is different, I think.

[B]

When I went to Brazil with Madonna, I got literally over 200 messages on Grindr. None of them were to have sex, by the way.

[C]

Oh, that's sad.

[B]

Now. I hooked up with one guy. I hooked up with one guy. He was super hot. But they were all. It was all in reference to a joke I made on this podcast.

[C]

All.

[B]

Every message said, now clap.

[A]

Now clap.

[B]

And I'm not kidding. Over 200 messages that all said, now clap. And the fandom was so wild, they had to build a bridge from the hotel. They built a bridge from the hotel to the beach because we couldn't walk on the street. So we went. We went upstairs, crossed the bridge, went down, and they tore the bridge down when we were gone. It was insane. Have you ever been to one of those?

[C]

I was definitely for the show. I saw watching you.

[A]

Wow. And you. You didn't. You didn't invite Bruno on stage.

[B]

I didn't know Bruno was there. We don't have a telephone number.

[A]

Why don't you text him?

[C]

I mean, now.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

We're gonna fix this.

[A]

We'll fix that today.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So, Bruno. Okay. So. So big picture, right? Let's say, because I know you've.

[B]

You.

[A]

You've auditioned for Big Brother Brazil a few times. I have.

[B]

And they didn't have you.

[C]

That's so crazy.

[A]

Fools. Like, that's so crazy.

[C]

I'd be waiting.

[A]

Yeah. Fools. I mean, but, like, what about Big Brother? Do you like that competition show? It seems. Cause So I have A friend who did the show, and apparently Tiffany, who was on Traitors. And to get to do the show leading up to. To condition you to get into the house, you have to spend 10 days in a hotel with no human contact. You don't get anything. No, but you don't have a tv.

[B]

You don't have anything.

[A]

You're just in a room with and you get one book for 10. That would drive me crazy. I cannot do that.

[B]

What book would you choose?

[A]

I don't know what book I would choose.

[B]

Well, Bruno brought me a book today.

[C]

Yeah, it's my favorite everyday book.

[B]

Can we read one?

[A]

Yes, yes. Wait, wait. Can I, Can I, can you? Like, why, why, why? Why do you want to be on Big Brother so bad? Like, why? Why is that? Why does that show sound good to you?

[C]

Well, first, I'm very proud to be Brazilian, and I left Brazil for like so many years now, and I am still very connected to my country and I would love to work more in Brazil and to. And I think Big Brother is one of the biggest shows.

[A]

Is it?

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Was it the Madonna concert last time you were back?

[C]

Is what.

[B]

When was the last time you were back in Brazil?

[C]

I was there for Carnival, February.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Are you a celebrity? You must be a celebrity in Brazil.

[A]

Of course.

[C]

Well, I wouldn't say that. I mean, people watch Drag Race everywhere in the world, so, I mean, if.

[B]

They know me, they know you. I was on Drag Race 10 years ago. So do you get like. Do you get like, people stopping you on the street and stuff when you go back to Brazil?

[C]

Sometimes. It depends what I am.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How do you. How do you feel about that? How do you like that?

[C]

I got used to it now. Yeah. You know, I don't see myself this way, first of all. And when I go to Brazil, I just want to have fun. I'm Brazilian, so, like, this is my thing.

[B]

Well, you want to have fun everywhere.

[C]

Well, also.

[A]

But the energy in Brazil is just so dope. Like how, like, you just add up a street party. People just come up to you and make out with makeup. Like, have you been to any street parties in Brazil?

[B]

No.

[A]

I did a few when I was there and it's just like, I can't. I've never experienced that anywhere else in the world. You just. At the street party, you're having a drink, someone walks up the street, make eye contact, and they come up to you and just start making out with you.

[B]

Well, I want to ask a question and tell me if this is offensive or not, but like, why are Brazilians so sexy? Everyone's. Everyone says this, right? Like, Brazilians are so attractive. Like, not just physically, but, like, they're just, like, sexy.

[C]

I would say it's the energy. It's. I don't know. I agree with you. I think Brazilians are very sexy.

[B]

Like, like, like, it's kind of crazy. I. I was in Brazil. I don't even like the beach, but I was like, I'm gonna go to the beach, because these are the hottest people I've ever seen in my life. The way they're walking around, the way they're talking, the way they're dressing and just everything. They're just like, the sexiest people. Like, it's crazy.

[C]

It must be the water.

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[B]

Who's the most famous Brazilian? What's that lady's name?

[A]

No, Rosa.

[B]

Sorry, no, what's her name? She was at the McDonald concert. She came out.

[C]

Pablo Vitar. Anita.

[B]

Anita. She's, like, massive, right?

[C]

She's huge. She's the biggest.

[B]

She came out. It was. When. When she came out, it was in. Because I didn't know who Anita was. I never. I had never heard of Anita. But, baby, they don't around about Anita.

[C]

No, Anita is big queen.

[B]

Yeah, she's like the Madonna of Brazil.

[C]

I mean, pretty much.

[B]

Probably a little younger.

[A]

She's way younger. Way younger than Madonna.

[B]

In her 40s, maybe.

[A]

No need.

[C]

Is like 20, like.

[A]

Yeah, she's young.

[C]

I don't think she studied it.

[A]

Yeah, she's young. Young girl.

[B]

And Papa Vitar, another one. So sexy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, she's amazing.

[A]

Bruno, you know, a lot of Dragons girls are jealous of you. Really? Because Anita's 32. She's 32.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because, Bruno, you got to sit at the judges table, which is something that girls have never done. You got to judge the girls on Drag Race, and a queen besides Rapal has never been there. So girls are like, damn, Bruno, is.

[B]

Is that true? One queen's been there?

[A]

Who?

[B]

Candice Cain.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Candace Kane did judge on Drag Race years ago. I want to say it was Bianca season.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

But that's the only queen I know of who's ever been on the judges panel.

[A]

So. You're better than all of us, Bruno. Just know that.

[C]

I mean, I just feel lucky to have the chance to do that.

[B]

RuPaul, like, loves you.

[C]

I mean, I love RuPaul back.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, do you go to her. Her super secret parties?

[C]

Nobody.

[B]

Wait, not really, no. You're not allowed to say. Did you get in trouble?

[C]

No, I. I don't. Do not go to any secret parties.

[B]

Are there secret parties? Oh, you go to the public parties. I mean, have you ever been to her house?

[C]

No.

[A]

So allegedly, this is all. Allegedly, RuPaul has these iconic games. Cause, you know, he likes to play games. That RuPaul has these, like, big game nights at his home. And it's very secret, like, invite only. No one talks about it. No one takes pictures. No one says it's like Fight Club. No one talks about it. No one says they go.

[B]

So maybe Bruno's not allowed to say.

[A]

But Bruno actually went, maybe.

[B]

And we don't want to put you on the spot. We don't want to get you in RuPaul's back races. I'm already there.

[A]

Rupaul likes.

[B]

I think.

[A]

No, he likes you.

[B]

RuPaul likes you.

[A]

You just did something on the show, like last season, two seasons ago.

[B]

Oh, yeah, on All Stars 10.

[A]

Nine.

[B]

Nine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

So, yeah, so. So, Bruno, you on season 10 was your first season of Drag Race, right?

[C]

Season 10, American season, I think I would say 11. Season 11. And All Stars 4 also.

[A]

That's. Yeah, that's what it was.

[B]

So I was asking, how did you get on? Like, how did you end up on RuPaul's Drag Race?

[C]

A friend of mine, he connected me to the show, to the production of the show. He's very close with Michelle Visage. And then he kept telling. He actually was working with me on Madonna Store. Oh, is it Jimmy Larita?

[B]

Oh, I thought it was the hairdresser.

[C]

Well, the hairdresser. He connected me to Madonna's tour because I was dating him. And his name is Andy Lecom.

[B]

Andy the hairdresser. He's like a famous character. He owns a salon here in. In weho.

[A]

Like Lacombe. Like the famous, like Lacombe.

[C]

And yeah, he.

[B]

He's a pretty famous hairdresser.

[A]

But I say like Lacombe product. Sounds like he has products and everything, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, no, I'm thinking Lancome.

[B]

Because you did. Because you did hospitality. No, yeah, I did.

[C]

Had dressing room. I was doing her dressing room.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God, you have done everything.

[C]

Well, I. I did work in production before in Brazil.

[B]

Uh huh.

[C]

So when it came to the chance to work with Madonna, what I did not expect at all.

[B]

So you met her a couple times?

[C]

Oh, yeah, many times.

[A]

I think everyone here has met Madonna.

[B]

It's true. Well, you first. What year did you meet her?

[A]

What year?

[C]

2016.

[B]

And when did you meet her?

[A]

I met her 2000, I think.

[C]

16.

[B]

Oh, they all.

[C]

Oh, that's me and Madonna.

[A]

Oh, work. Bruno. Bruno the banana.

[C]

Your pants. The unapologetic bitch on stage. And I. Mr. Dan.

[A]

Wow, Bruno, you have done so much.

[B]

Stuff in your career.

[C]

Hey, man. And I'm waiting for more.

[B]

Are you dating right now?

[C]

Dating?

[B]

Yeah. No, no.

[A]

Why?

[C]

So single?

[B]

But is that by design? It's gotta be.

[C]

I'm open now for a relationship. But you were focused on not desperate, though.

[B]

But I think you have, you have. You can be choosy.

[C]

Yeah, but I do want a relationship. I think it's.

[B]

What do you look for in a man?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Self, awareness, confidence.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

A little obsession for me.

[A]

Bruno. Okay, Bruno, you want your man to be obsessed with you? Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

In what way? In a light way.

[C]

Like, nobody says that he want to kill me.

[B]

We're gonna have you interview me and Monet. Ask us questions you want in a partner, we're gonna answer, and then you're gonna have to pick between us based on our answers.

[A]

Okay. Which sibling would be better? Would be a better partner for you.

[C]

Okay. So, Monet, what do you need to see in a man?

[A]

I need to see confidence. I need to see someone who has good hygiene. I need to see someone who goes to the gym. Cause I like to go to the gym together. I need to see someone who has the potential to be on the Pit Stop on Drag Race. Like, I feel like, to me, that would be a good fit for me.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Bob. I love someone who laughs. I love a good smile. I love someone who lights up every room they walk into. I love someone who's got their own thing going on. Like, it's not. It doesn't have to be about me. And honestly, what I really want to do is be able to support my man and what he's doing. So if you got something going on, I want to know, can I go to your shows? Can I tell my friends about your TV shows you're working on? You know, do I know a producer at Brazilian Big Brother?

[A]

You get to ask us three questions.

[C]

Another one?

[A]

Yeah, another one?

[C]

Yeah. All right. What turns you on sexually?

[A]

Me first. Sexually. I think I definitely like someone with height. Or height, as Latoya Jackson would say. I like someone.

[B]

Y' all go watch Latoya Jackson vs.

[A]

Nene Leakes on the Apprentice.

[B]

You will not regret it.

[A]

I like height sexually. You know, I tend to find myself in a more submissive role. Even though I do identify as a versatile character, I find myself being more submissive and in the placebo role, which I gladly take. But I like someone who likes to flip it around. If you're having sex with this person forever, you gotta change it up and engage and be different sometimes. You know, I also like someone who is sensual, but also a little rough sometimes. And someone who's a good kisser. A bad kisser will ruin the entire thing. If you're a bad kisser, I don't want to be with you.

[B]

I like two ends of the spectrum. I like really nice guys. Like, nice, passive guys. But I also love, like, a. Like, if you're kind of a bitch and no one likes you. And I think you've seen this with my partners in the past. They're either really nice and everyone likes them or they're like, kind of a bitch and like, no one likes them. And I am attracted to those things. I do not know why. Well, I know I like nice guys. I don't know why I like. But I. Most guys I date for long term tend to be really, really nice, physically speaking. I like. Well, I like short, but I also like tall guys too.

[A]

I like.

[B]

I like tall guys.

[A]

Every party you're with right now.

[B]

But, you know, I've hooked up. But, you know, you've seen the tall guys that I've hooked up with and. And had relations with. I. I am not versatile. I'm not versatile at all. I. I'm a top. And I don't have. I don't have. I don't have the capacity for what. What it. The. What it takes to be a good bottom or.

[C]

You haven't found the right person yet.

[B]

Maybe I haven't found the right person. I'm willing to try again.

[C]

We love some openness, right?

[B]

It's been. It's been a minute. It's been a minute since I've been in these bottom streets. Last time. Last time I tried was the night we did that. Well, not we, but I did that when I did that. That str viewing on Broadway.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

In New York City. This guy. This guy was like 6 foot 8.

[A]

Oh, that's so. Wow.

[B]

He was 6 foot 8. But it wasn't. It wasn't working.

[C]

What was the problem?

[B]

You know, I don't think I have the physical capacity to accommodate what he was bringing to the table.

[A]

I see.

[B]

But I did. I did give it. I gave it an earnest effort.

[A]

Do you know what I found out recently? And I learned this. I mean, TikTok Medical school, but apparently, you know. Cause we. We all obviously have anuses and butts, but we all slightly vary. Like, some of us curve in different ways. And you can have a partner that has an anatomy that just does not work with your. With how you're built. It's not often that it'll happen. Like, for, like, generally, it all works together. Like a penis and a hole. It works, but some people just have a slightly downturn. Some guys, dicks curve in a way that it just. It physically cannot work with your anatomy.

[B]

This guy was straight as an arrow.

[A]

Maybe you're a little curved in there.

[B]

Maybe I'm a little curved.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So based on those questions.

[A]

Wait, there's one more question. Wow.

[C]

Let's go emotional now. What is the biggest healing you've done in your life? Like the biggest emotional challenge that you had to get over. And how did you do that?

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

I'll go first on this one. You know, my mother passed away on Mother's Day last year, and then I had to immediately go into filming the Traitors. It was really emotional, and I processed it by talking about my feelings. I talked about it with my friends. I communicated with my friends whose moms had also passed away in their 30s or 20s, and I talked about it on stage a lot. I use humor. I just remembered my mom a lot. I think that was probably my biggest healing I've ever had to do in my life. And I'm still working on the healing process for sure, but that was definitely my biggest healing that I've done, 100%.

[A]

I think the biggest healing I have done was I was a contestant on a show, and I made it all the way to the end, and I did a killer lip sync, and I still didn't get the crown. And I think after that, I felt defeated, I felt dejected, I felt betrayed, I felt scandalized. I think after that and talking to my friends and confiding in my friends about my feelings and working through that, I was able to realize, you know what? I am not a final lip sync. I am more than that. I am a fierce queen.

[B]

And I may not be a singer.

[A]

I may not be.

[B]

I may not be a damn seamstress.

[A]

But I'm a fierce queen.

[B]

But I'm a fierce queen.

[A]

So I healed and grew from that, and I think that helped me on stage. It helped me to pivot. Not pivot my career, but try new avenues in my career that have all been shining and blooming. And I'm very happy with where I am now. Yes.

[B]

And now we must make a choice.

[C]

Oh, God, do I.

[B]

Can I take both? No.

[A]

But he's polyamorous. I'm not.

[C]

Listen, I have a big heart, Bruno.

[A]

You gotta choose one.

[B]

You know, we'll give you.

[C]

Give me a minute.

[B]

Yeah, we'll do more podcasting, because a lot will be revealed. So Bruno came in and gave me this book. It's called the Daily Book of Positive Quotations by Linda Picone. What do you love about this book so much?

[C]

Well, it helps with my everyday reflections, and I think it really helps me to ground myself. So I try to every day, usually in the morning, to just open a page and think about it.

[B]

What's today's date?

[C]

And I actually got to post sometimes on my social media. Today is December 15th.

[B]

Yeah, you say you're posting on social. You posting? You're closing your social media.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Today it is sweet, simple things. I am beginning to learn that it is the sweet, simple things of life which are the real ones after all. By Laura Ingalls Wilder the Barefoot Contessa.

[A]

Yeah, that is.

[C]

Are you December 15th. That isn't that Little House no Prairie.

[A]

Oh. Oh. I thought it was a deb contest as well.

[B]

What's her name in AA Garden. Ina garden is the Barefoot Contessa.

[A]

Why did I think it was wild too? Who's the wallet?

[B]

Because of something that Nick said. Because. Because. I know. Oh. Anyway, so a baby's giggle, the warmth of a flannel of flannel sheets, a favorite meal. The simple things can bring us much happiness. We enjoy these simple things for what they are, but also for what they evoke. People are people. We are. We have love. Times of peace and content. The promise the future holds. If I make a list of things that make me happy, few of the items will be extravagant.

[C]

I love that.

[B]

That is nice. Can you make a list of things that you make? Can you name a few things that make you happy? Real quick?

[A]

That make me happy? Yeah. My cat, my drag, my home, my friends and family.

[B]

How about you, Bruno? What is the thing that make you happy?

[C]

Having health. Being at peace when I'm at home. At home and at peace, I love it. I'm like, oh, my God, it's so good to be here. And, you know, my family makes me happy when I think about them.

[B]

Yeah, man. I think it was kind of materialistic. I literally said friends of family, my drag, my home. I said, my friends, my family, my drag, my home. Anyway, I'm just saying, it's just because it said a few of the items will be extravagant.

[A]

You were like.

[B]

You were like my multi million dollar house.

[A]

I know something that pisses me off off right now, and it's you.

[C]

Well, Mon, that's not the list.

[A]

Well, I'm taking my other list. And you regret the top of it.

[B]

The thing that make me happy is my partners, my best friend, having a wonderful guest like this on our podcast, sometimes driving to work and listening to npr. I love the time. I do love these things. You think driving to work, listening to NPR makes me very, very happy. Getting to sleep. Getting to sleep is great. Waking up, not so much, but getting to sleep. And I'll tell you more about this after this break. Y', all, if you do not want to see this break, you know, you don't have to live like this. You can go over to the sibling rivalry Patreon right now. Go to Patreon. Type in sibling rivalry podcast and you'll never have to hear me say this and you'll never have to hear another ad again. All right, here comes some ads. Healthy doesn't have to mean perfect. And with Thrive Market, it doesn't have to be hard. I've been using to make small smart swaps that actually stick. I swap out my usual snacks for ones without seed oils, replace pantry staples with low sugar, high protein options, and found GLP1 friendly meals without having to dig through every label. The best part, I didn't need to become a nutritionist to do it. Their 90 plus filters make shopping fast and the AI powered cart learns what I like. So reordering is basically automatic. It feels less like managing a diet and more like upgrading my normal. The ingredients are all vetted, no guessing, no sketchy additives, and everything shows up at my door. If eating better has ever felt overwhelming, Thrive Market is the tool that makes it doable. I use it and you should too. Join Thrive Market with my link thrivemarket.com rivalry for 30% off your first order plus a free $60 gift.

[A]

Okay, Bruno, can you please wake this conversation up? Because there is A lot of people have been talking about this and I want. And you. You probably only. The only person who can really. The real tea. Is Bryce gay?

[B]

I think Bryce could answer it too.

[A]

True. Bryce is not. He's straight.

[C]

Bryce is straight.

[B]

I thought Bryce was. I think Bryce was joking one day and he was like, yeah, I'm gay or something.

[C]

No, I love Bryce.

[B]

Bryce is lovely.

[A]

It's trick.

[C]

And he just got married.

[A]

Did he really? Yes. Oh, my God.

[B]

Congratulations, Bryce. If you're watching, congratulations, Bryce.

[C]

We love Bryce.

[A]

I love Bryce.

[C]

Bryce is.

[A]

Bryce is one of the. He's not on Dragus anymore.

[B]

Is he done?

[C]

I mean, he.

[A]

No, he is.

[B]

The erasure is crazy.

[A]

I think. I haven't seen him in so long.

[B]

Is there. Can I ask a question? So based on like FCC regulations, you guys have to like, cover your penises when you're in the pit crew underwear. You can't just. You can't just have cloth to meet, right? Well, because you have to like, put something between your penis and the thing. Am I making that up?

[A]

I have no idea.

[C]

Well, we cannot show the.

[B]

The shaft.

[C]

Yeah, the line.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Whatever it is you have, you need to be smooth. Otherwise the. The channel could cut and you could not be on the show.

[A]

So.

[B]

So they have to cover. They have to put like a panty liner or something.

[C]

You Just need to make sure it's a smooth, like.

[A]

Like. Like a cup. They'll probably put those little, like, the cup on cups on it. Okay. And another question that people probably. That I didn't ask when you did Monet talks. Is there, like. Cause, you know, you work at a job for a long time, there's, like, seniority. Right. So is there, like, a ranking of.

[B]

I think Bryce is the. Bryce is the oldest, is the longest.

[C]

Lasting, or right now he is. Yes.

[A]

Well, in terms of who they call to the show, like, how does that work? Is Bryce always invited, and if he's not, it goes. Or is it like, they kind of pick and choose? Oh, this episode, we want xyz. Or is it who's available? Like, how does that work?

[C]

I would assume so that he is always called to do the show.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

But sometimes I do an episode by myself, or he can do an episode by himself, so. Or somebody else.

[B]

You know, you've become, like, the fan favorite pit crewman. Like, you are, like, if you. It would be so weird to see a season of Drag Race without your, like, big, lovely smile there.

[A]

I would agree.

[C]

I take that and all the love that is coming. Yeah.

[B]

There was a photo of me and Bruno on this cruise.

[A]

What happened? Let me see.

[B]

It's just us, like, side by side. I think Bruno posted it, and the comments I was getting were like, how giant is buff it is.

[A]

Why were you, like, towering?

[B]

I mean, I'm a little taller than Bruno, and I'm not. I'm not tiny. Right. And Bruno is also not tiny. So people kept being like, jesus Christ, how giant is Bob the Drag Queen? But we're similar. We're very similar in size.

[C]

You were taller?

[A]

Not much.

[B]

How tall are you?

[C]

Six, three.

[B]

I'm six two.

[C]

Hey, don't do that now.

[B]

After so many years.

[C]

Six, three.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[C]

Maybe two. Almost three.

[B]

I'm six, five.

[C]

All right, so there we go.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I've always said this, and I don't know. I mean, you know, World of Wonder does what they do, what they do they should do, even if it's just it only exists on Wild Presents. Plus a pit crew competition show. Like, people auditioning or trying to become pit crew members. I think as a fan of Drag Race, I would watch this, like, spin off show of, like.

[B]

Did you have a show?

[A]

No, no, no. But like, a show, like competing. A competition. Like competing to get to a reality show.

[C]

Pizzcrew Race.

[A]

Yeah. Something like. I feel like I'm like, why don't, like, I feel like, it's a no brainer. It was. They could do it right in the basement over there.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It'll be fierce.

[B]

I mean, and you could be the.

[A]

Host of it, literally.

[C]

I mean, I can. I'm ready.

[B]

What? Okay. What is it? Okay, what is the audition like? What was it? Do you just show up? Do you send the headshots? Is there an audition? Or do you just send like a headshot and a resume? How do you get. If I'm watching this right now, I want to be on the pit crew. I want to be the next Bruno. I want to be the next Bryce. How do I become a pit crew member?

[C]

I think they reach out to people in different ways, you know?

[A]

Okay.

[C]

So sometimes in person, sometimes on social media. So it can change from one person to another.

[B]

Did you have to do a screen test or anything?

[C]

I did not. As I said, a friend of mine connected me to the production of the show. They called me and they invited me to do a gig that was a music video for Elton John for the Bitch is Back.

[A]

Oh, work.

[C]

There was a music video that they had. Drag queen. And then at that moment, Bryce and Jason, there is two on the show. So I met them and I met some queens. And I knew that was the real test. That was a casting for me, you know, because they were, like, looking at me and taking pictures. And I'm like, okay. I didn't know anyone before that and then. And I knew that that would be the connecting points to get to the show.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And after that gig, that's when they call me and say, they said, we might use you for one episode or two. I'm like, okay, I'll do that. And then I sign a contract. And they're like, you know what? Maybe you sign a contract because if we want to use you for more than three, then you need to have a contract. I'm like, okay, that's a good sign.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And here I am. And here you are seven, eight years later.

[B]

Is like, is in your mind. Because, you know, my career isn't really, like, attached to being, like, conventionally attractive for me. My career is really attached to being humorous and being. And being relatable. Is there a party that's like, like, like, when do you stop being, like, the sexy person on camera? Or is there you like, like, what's next? Or how does that work for you?

[C]

Well, I think that's why I've been trying to do new things. Like, I have a new show now where I get to show a little bit of My personality and like, podcasts like this and, you know, being a drag race, people don't get to see all the sides of Bruno. Yeah. And then. And it's okay. That's what the job is.

[B]

And, well, also, luckily, daddies are in, so if you, you know, if you go a little gray, I think. I don't think anyone will begrudge you.

[C]

I mean, I'll be that. Showing my body forever, as long as they want me.

[B]

I mean, you're kind of daddy right now. I mean, but like, like, baby daddy. No, not baby. Like a young daddy. Like, you're not.

[A]

Like, you. Would you identify as a daddy? I would not give her a daddy.

[B]

You must have been called daddy. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Well, yeah, for sure.

[B]

Because you.

[A]

You.

[B]

You have daddy vibes. But like a sweet daddy. Like a. Like, not a sugar daddy, but like a.

[C]

Like a daddy with a heart. Yes.

[B]

Like. Like, I think about. Like, there's. I think there's different kind of daddies. Like. Like Johnny McGovern is. Is like quintessential. Like, when you think of a daddy, you would envision Johnny McGovern.

[A]

He's such a tall man. I didn't realize he's like, six, five. I saw. I saw Johnny McGovern. He hosts the show. What's the. What's the name of the show? Hey, Queen.

[B]

Hey, Queen.

[A]

He For a while, and I seen him do the show online, and I saw. I've watched interviews when he did Bob when he had the show, whatever. And I was like, oh, whatever. When I saw him in person. He is a mammoth of a man. He's like six foot five.

[B]

Six five.

[A]

I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He's hiring everyone. Johnny McGovern is a massive dude.

[B]

He has, like, such a deep voice. So the. The daddy spectrum is pretty wide. And I think you're more on, like, the soft daddy side.

[A]

What's a wolf, then?

[B]

A wolf is like a muscly guy with gray hair. Like, black and white hair. Because wolves are gray.

[A]

No, wolves are not always great, babe.

[B]

But this is the idea of what it is when you think of a wolf. You know what I'm talking about?

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

Wolves can be white, Wolves can be brown, but a wolf is like a hairy, muscly guy. And I think if you have the gray, you're like a husky.

[A]

I think of Twilight and there was, like, brown wolves. I do not associate wolves of being, like, gray. Like animals. Is that a thing?

[B]

They're definitely hair. Wolves are hairy. Like, like, what's his name would not be a wolf. In the real world, the guy who was the wolf. Taylor.

[A]

Taylor Lautner.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He's not a wolf, he's a twunk.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And I have a question. So when you say daddies or twinks or wolves, it doesn't necessarily imply what they do sexually in bed? No, it's just how they look.

[A]

Like, I think yes and no. Like, I think if you think of a twink, generally, I think you're thinking of someone who is submissive and is a boss.

[B]

But a twink is exclusively about how they look. You can be an evil twink, I know you can be a demon twink, but I think twink is Twink. Bear and Daddy are specifically connected to how they look.

[A]

And also with that look, you're associating with them with being a specific role in the bed, in my opinion. Like, when I think of twinks, of course I know there are twinks out there. All you twink toppers out there. I know y' all out there who are aggressive. I know they exist. But when I think of a twinkle, I think of someone who looks a certain way and is a bottom and is and is passive.

[B]

But Bear doesn't say what you do Bear, just your body.

[A]

I was talking about Twink specifically. I think Twink is the only one that I get that association. To me, I don't know.

[B]

I feel like twinks can be tops. I don't think twink is necessarily. I mean, I think. I think most twins are tops, but not all tops are twins. It's really about more like how you look. Are you hairless, are you skinny? You can't be too tall. Although you can be a tarantula twin.

[A]

Like, yeah. Nick Smith used to be a tarant. I think a little younger. Nick Smith was a tarantula Twink.

[B]

No, for sure. He's our friend.

[A]

He's like six' four and he's very skinny and he's very hairless.

[B]

Yeah, very, very.

[A]

Okay, Bruno, I know you've been thinking about the Dating Game, and I just want to remind you, you have to pick one of us.

[B]

So you can just by the end of the episode. But there's no rush right now. There's no rush right now. Just keep these things in mind.

[C]

I'm a Libra.

[A]

It's very hard to decide the scale. The Libras and scales.

[B]

Do you have an Ultimate Diva?

[C]

I mean, I do. I do love Madonna.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Brazilians. When I tell you Brazilians, don't fuck around about Madonna. When we got to the airport, the airport was Madonna. Themed, like they were playing all Madonna music. I mean, at the airport it was all Madonna music. There were Madonna banners in the airport, big Madonna posters, and like life size Madonna kind of cardboard cutouts. Like the whole town was Madonna. Why do Brazilians love Madonna so much?

[C]

I mean, it's not only Brazilians, right?

[B]

No, I mean, world. I mean, when we. Italy, they love Madonna. In Mexico, they love Madonna. I mean, everywhere we went, they love Madonna. But Brazil, nowhere turned the airport. The airport was only. It was Madonna Rama. It was all Madonna music. From the moment we got the plane to the moment we got back on the plane, it was all Madonna.

[C]

The passion we have was amazing. I mean, whatever we decide to love, really love. Yeah. Well, to me, she has a very. A huge impact on my life. You know what I mean? Like, you're working with her and getting to see it, and you can't help but like think about what. What can you take with you for life? And she's very inspiring and she works very hard and crazy hard.

[B]

I've never met someone who works harder than Madonna ever.

[C]

So. Yeah, so it was very inspiring to me.

[A]

And.

[C]

And you know, the chance I had to be so close. And I think. I think it's amazing everything that she represents and she stands for.

[A]

Yeah, I wanna. I wanna. Sorry, go back a little bit. So I know we have the gay subcultures. We have like bear, twink. Bear, bear, twink. All these things in the States. Is there equivalent in Brazil? Like, do they have. Do they have gay subcultures in Brazil?

[B]

How do you say bear in Portuguese? How do you say bear in Portuguese?

[A]

Oh, it's the same one, just different.

[B]

And they call them. They do have otters. I. The skinny hairy guys.

[C]

I mean, I don't know how to say that right now, but they have all of it and they.

[B]

And they just translate it all to Portuguese kind of.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What's twink they have.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

In Portuguese.

[C]

Ursos are bears, for sure.

[A]

Bears.

[C]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't know to say all of them. Shame. It's okay.

[B]

It's okay. We're not judging you.

[C]

I. I haven't been so present. What we have is in Portuguese.

[B]

But wait. Okay. Can you. Can you say this for. Can you play it? Jacob? Can you. Oh, no, don't play it. I want. Can you say that for us?

[A]

That's. That's Spanish.

[C]

That. It doesn't sound like it could. The Portuguese could also be Portuguese from Portugal.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

And this one shows the Portugal's flag Got it?

[B]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I will say one thing that I noticed when I went to Brazil. Like in most other countries, like, you go that there's another language. Like, you meet people, they'll speak English a little bit or they try whatever. In Portuguese, people are only speaking Portuguese. You would talk to someone and they will look at you like, no, bitch, I am saying this entire sentence in Portuguese. You need to learn the language. Which I was like, fierce.

[B]

I don't know if I've had experience.

[A]

That was my experience.

[B]

That's why that was in Italy and in France. Italians, they will look, they. They are like, mad at you for not speaking Italian. Like, they are like, angry at you. They're like, they. And they communicate with you in Italian and you're like, I don't know. And they're like, well, learn, basically. And France too.

[C]

Yeah, I experienced that in France.

[B]

Yeah. The French are. They don't around about you by you not speaking French. They don't care. They. And they're good. They're just going to talk to you.

[A]

I think the French accent is so hot. I love a French accent. Oh, a French accent is so hot to me. Do you like. Do you like French accents?

[B]

Do you like French accents?

[C]

I mean, yeah. I dated a French guy before.

[B]

Oh, did you? Yeah, I think it's hard here in the States.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, talk to me in French, open my mouth, spitting it. Like, obsessed with a French accent.

[B]

Do you find that because you're like a sex symbol, do people treat you in a sexual way that feels uninviting sometimes?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, are people like, grabbing on your body and like, oh, God, I could.

[C]

Imagine they're different things. It could be that they feel like they can relate to me for some reason, for their own minds, because I'm very approachable. So I. I don't see this thing of like, I'm very accessible and. Or it could be because they just think of me and this sexual thing and they should to touch it and have it.

[B]

How are your. Your DMs are got to be crazy.

[C]

Not enough. It depends what we're looking for, right? Like, but I do, I do receive some interesting videos and pictures and Are.

[B]

You, Are you like, Are you welcoming? Are you like, Jesus Christ?

[C]

Sometimes it's like, wow, you really went all the way, huh? Sometimes I'm like, that's beautiful. And sometimes I wonder if, if I answer, they're gonna be like, oh, you didn't you like that?

[B]

Huh?

[C]

Right?

[B]

But you answer some of them. I do. Sometimes I'M like, has it ever come to fruition? Has it ever led to a little more?

[C]

Have I ever used Instagram to have a hookup? Yes, I have.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Have you, Monet?

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

I mean, I have, too.

[A]

I was gonna be like, of course I have.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Why not? Hey, do you wanna have a coffee? Hey, I'm here.

[B]

Well, gays can turn anything into a hookup app. We famously have a friend who uses Uber Eats as a hookup app. You know who we're talking about?

[A]

I know.

[B]

Yeah. He doesn't. He just. He will just turn. He will turn. What he does, he opens the door, and then when the guy leaves, he just says, is there anything else I can help you? They go, anything else? He goes, no. Is there anything I can help you with?

[C]

Oh, it's like, what are you eating first?

[B]

Literally, What?

[A]

Okay, what's the real hate? Do you. Do you hate using Grindr?

[C]

It's a lot of hate relationship.

[B]

Because it's some getting fan stuff, too, right?

[C]

So much. Oh, a lot of people, they think, I am not. I'm fake profile.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So sometimes the amount of proofs you.

[A]

Need to give, it's so annoying.

[B]

Are they like, yeah, this is Bruno. Sure.

[C]

Yeah. No, no, that's terrible. To use somebody else pictures. Oh, my God.

[A]

It's like, that happens. Well, it's also crazy when they ask you to jump through all the hoops. Okay, well, send me a picture of you holding up your two fingers. I'm like, which I'm not doing.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

I'm like, half of me. You're hot. And I want someone like, I'm not justifying this behavior by rewarding you with your request.

[B]

My new thing now is when they ask me for proof, I go, okay, of course I can prove it to you. Just send me your Instagram, and then I'll show you through there. And they send me Instagram, and then I block them. I'm like, do you believe it's me now? And then they go, you block me? Then I block them on a Grinder.

[A]

Oh, you block them on Instagram.

[B]

I blocked them on Instagram. And then I blocked. And then I blocked. And then they. You blocked me? Then I go. And then I. Then I go. Exactly.

[A]

Then I block them on Grindr 2. That's good.

[B]

See, that's not nice, though.

[C]

But you won't get to have it, right?

[B]

I know, but I'm annoyed by them at this point. Now I'm annoyed because, again, I've had to show you three forms of id. I've had to use the captcha. I've had to prove that I'm a human. I've had to pick which parts have the bicycle in them and which ones are traffic lights. And at this point, it's a wrap. I don't want to have sex with you anymore. I'm just going to move on to someone who maybe as hot. Less hot, less compatible. Just because I don't want to go through the loops. If someone wants to date you, what is the best way to shoot your shot with Bruno? If someone's like, I want. Like, what if someone's seen you? Like, I actually think Bruno might be my soulmate beyond just like, his beauty. But I think that Bruno might with it. Like, I read this. I read that book. I'm from the same town in Brazil. I love Madonna. How can someone shoot their shot with Bruno? Can you tell the camera right there?

[C]

I would just know. Try it. I love a guy with attitude. I love. I love when somebody actually have the audacity to say, I want you. I'm into you now. You have to feel it later on, because what is this about, right? Like, is it the idea you have of me? You know, is this.

[B]

Can we both hit on you real quick and see which one you like more?

[A]

No. Yes. He.

[B]

How many. How many tests is Bruno gonna do?

[A]

Well, this is part of this.

[B]

Part of this is leading up to the thing. Okay? So you'll. You'll. You'll approach Bruno and then I'll. Do you want me to go first?

[A]

You go first.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't even know, like, what this.

[B]

We're. Jacob, what's our scenario? Where are we at? We're standing in line at the movies. So the movie's about to start. We're both trying to get popcorn from the theater.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Are you Bruno?

[C]

Oh, I am Bruno.

[B]

Oh, my God. My name is Caldwell. Nice to meet you.

[C]

Nice to meet you.

[B]

You're from Brazil, right? Oh, my God, your hands are so strong.

[C]

Oh, Jesus.

[B]

And they're really soft. I thought you'd have, like. I don't know, like, like, like, like. Cause you. Because maybe you lift weights, right? Yeah. So I thought you'd have, like. But they're so soft and really, really strong. Have you seen Wicked yet? Or is this your first time seeing it?

[C]

Yeah, it's my first time.

[B]

Did you like the first one, too?

[C]

It was great, right?

[B]

I mean, I identify with so much from this movie, I have to say, by the way, you have really beautiful eyes.

[C]

I appreciate that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really, really Beautiful.

[C]

Who are you here with?

[B]

Oh, just a couple of friends. They're already in there. I'm picking popcorn.

[C]

Are you single?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

No. He has two boyfriends.

[B]

I'm single. He doesn't know what's going on with me. What are you doing after this, by the way?

[C]

I don't know. I have no plans.

[B]

There's this little bar right down the street. They have amazing drinks, like, really good drinks, but it's not gonna, like, knock you off your ass, but just enough to, like, keep, you know, the fun going. Do you think maybe we could go there after this?

[A]

Sure. He's sober, by the way. He's sober.

[B]

Can I get your number?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Oh, thank you. Five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five, five.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Enjoy the movie.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

How do you know about the drinks?

[A]

You're sober.

[B]

Enjoy the movie.

[A]

Movie. Y.

[C]

Enjoy the movie. You too, girl.

[A]

That was Bruno. He's sober.

[B]

You're sober. Stop trying to block the. Is wrong with you. All right, now you. Now you talk.

[A]

Now you're. Okay, so now we are. Our scenario is we are at a party, we're at a festival, and. And. And Diplo is DJing, and we're in the same area, and we're dancing. Okay? Yeah.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Hey, are you Bruno, right? I am.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Is this your first time here at acl?

[C]

It is my first time.

[B]

It's.

[A]

Diplo is killing it. This. It's such a vibe.

[C]

I love it. So good.

[A]

What do you like?

[C]

I love good kisses.

[A]

Oh, I like good kisses, too. Especially, like kissing at a festival and just, like, chilling, like when the vibe is good and the music is good. Feels so good.

[C]

Are you single?

[A]

I am very single. What about you? Yeah, maybe we should. Maybe we should even kiss right now just to see if the vibe is even right.

[C]

I mean, do you think you have a good kiss, though?

[A]

Oh, yeah. I have a great kiss. Honey, look at these lips.

[B]

Honey, just to be clear, she's wearing Invisalign, so it's gonna be. It's gonna. They're full of blood. They're literally full of blood. And she's engaged.

[A]

But anyway, go ahead.

[C]

Who are you here with?

[A]

I'm here with my friends. We come here every year and we saw Diploma's gonna be here, and I was like, we definitely have to go see Diplo. And also, Madonna's here, too. And I love Madonna. Madonna.

[C]

I mean, that's why.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I gotta see that.

[A]

Yeah, me too. So maybe we should go see Madonna together in. In the next Tent.

[B]

Madonna's in the next tent. Yeah, like, she's just in there hanging out.

[A]

She's doing her first shoulder in a tip. Yes.

[C]

And hey, we can do that.

[A]

Okay, that'll be great. Let me get your number just in case we get, like, separated. Look at your number so we can, like, text. Cool.

[B]

And scene. All right. How did those. How did you like those approaches?

[C]

I mean, they're both very authentic. I like the both, actually, because it doesn't matter where you are.

[A]

Right.

[C]

It's just like, okay, hey, I. You want to let me know that you want it.

[B]

Otherwise I will say Monet has some lies in hers as I don't know how authentic it was that Madonna's in the next. Doing your show.

[A]

You've never been to a festival before. Artists, they all do, like, as big as you are.

[B]

I have been to festivals. I've performed at festivals. I've.

[A]

I've worked the ACL festival. Acl. They do every artist performs on the really big tents in a tent. Yeah. I mean, they're huge. Like. Like 50,000 people can probably fit in this thing. Maybe that's a little exaggeration.

[B]

At Austin City Limits. Yeah, they're intense.

[A]

Some of them are. Some of them are intense.

[B]

Some of them are intense. You said all a second ago.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

I'm just noticing that you said all. Now you're saying some.

[A]

I'm just noticing the things.

[B]

That's just something to keep in mind when you are making your decision.

[C]

Okay, let's make a decision.

[B]

When you're making your decision out loud.

[C]

It's the hardest decision of my life.

[A]

Ok. Oh, so do you watch Traitors? Bruno, do you like the show Traitors?

[C]

I haven't seen the whole thing. I watched some clips, to be honest.

[A]

Well, I think so. This show has franchise like, it's blown up so much. I think it started out the Dutch one was the first one. Then UK did it, and now there's one in New Zealand. There's one in Australia. There's India, there's Ireland.

[B]

Canada.

[A]

Canada. I'm like, if they did a. Well, you haven't watched yet. If they did a Brazilian Traders, you should do it.

[B]

You would be so fucking good on the. I can't that. Well, you might get murdered, though. Why?

[C]

Why is that?

[B]

Because on the Traders. Something that they do on the Traders is if you're like someone who would never be voted out, meaning no one thinks you're a bad guy, they will just. The Traders will murder you. Because. So the way the show works is there's three people or four people who are the killers. And then the other like 18 people are all trying to find the killers, but. And then everyone votes who they think the killers are. So if you weren't the killer, people would just be the murders, the, the traitors would be like, Bruno's never going to get, get voted out.

[A]

You got it.

[B]

So we'll just kill him. So you have to end up being like a little bit nasty. Do you get nasty?

[C]

Oh, yeah. I mean, what were we talking about?

[B]

No, not nasty, like, no, no, no.

[C]

It can be a little, like.

[B]

A little.

[C]

I try, actually. I avoid drama as much as possible.

[B]

Same.

[A]

So are you, are you, are you a morning person? Like, do you, do you wake up happy, Bruno, or does it take you a while to get there?

[C]

I wake up happy. I don't like to wake up too early.

[A]

What's early?

[C]

Unless I really have to.

[A]

What's early?

[C]

6Am is early.

[B]

That's very early.

[A]

Yeah, I think.

[B]

Yes, I agree.

[C]

So I think 9am is great.

[A]

Okay. That's a little too late for me.

[C]

And I like to stay in bed a little. You know, I don't like to praise his name, like open my eyes and have to jump out of the bed and have a workout class at 7am I don't like it, but it doesn't mean that you cannot have. You do it.

[A]

Yeah, you do it. Yeah.

[C]

Unless I have to.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So when you tour and you have like call times and all that, so you have to manage to be able to work out or to be able to eat or to, you know, so then gotcha for a job. I think it makes sense.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But if I'm free, just show.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I love my own time.

[B]

I could really see you being on one of those shows like the Traders or like Big Brother. I think you'd fare better on Big Brother because. And I haven't watched a lot of Big Brother, but from what I understand, there are no bad guys. There are no designated bad guys. And it's just about how basically connections you make. Friend, the friendliness. It's kind of like Survivor. There's challenges, of course, but if you can be friendly with enough people, then no one will. Who would want to kick Bruno out of that? Who would vote Bruno out?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who would put Bruno on the chopping block? Who would put Bruno up for hospital, whatever, Elimination. What they doing Survivor? Like, could you, like, why would you do that?

[A]

I mean, I don't know. But you know what these games are. Sometimes there are no rhyme or reason to these games sometimes, because Bruno is everything he is. They're like, he has to go. He's too trustworthy. He's too kind. Like, you know, so they'll probably try to eliminate you.

[C]

Hey, I would try that. I want more tv.

[B]

So, hey, yeah, I mean, you just have, like. You are one. You know who you kind of remind me of?

[C]

What?

[B]

Cynthia Lee Fontaine. Cynthia Leaf Fontaine is, like, someone who is just so genuinely friendly. Like, she does not have a nasty bone in her body, except for the.

[A]

Except for Charlie. For Charlie.

[B]

So she can be from time to time, but, like, for the most part, like, she's just, like, a sweet, friendly person, and you can tell she's not being phony like it is. Yeah, it's real. You. You've done a few seasons with Cynthia, right?

[A]

Just one.

[B]

Just one All Stars, I think.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Are you allowed time ago. Are you allowed to have favorite queens? You can't do that.

[C]

I mean, RuPaul is my favorite queen.

[A]

Fair. Same.

[B]

But you can't. But you can't.

[A]

This is my favorite queen.

[B]

This is my favorite queen. But you can't have it. But you're not allowed to have favorites among the contestants.

[C]

I mean, it's not that I'm going to allow. I think. Think it's professional enough. I mean, I work with all of them.

[B]

So who's one of your favorites you've worked with outside of RuPaul?

[C]

Oh, my God. You and.

[A]

You and Morphine look like besties on social media.

[C]

I love Murphy. I love Latina. Look at me. I can't remember Vanjie. I love Vanjie, too, of course. But I want to keep it all Valentina.

[A]

Queen. Okay.

[C]

Oh, Valentina, Valentina, Valentina.

[A]

I like to keep it on place.

[C]

It was right when I started doing Drag Race, and then she was Latina, and I had that thing.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

You know, being from Brazil, Valentina speaks to people in a way that is, like, people fucking love her. And I like, once you work with her, you get it. She's so.

[A]

It's because she speaks in a very direct way, and she's so earnest in what she's asking for. It is not an act. It's not a gimmick. She is genuinely asking you to stop whatever you're doing, stop your life, and come and tie my shoe, because I really need you to, mi amor. And she's like, because you have to tie my shoe. I need you to do it right now.

[C]

I love the love part. You know, I was afraid of drag queens.

[A]

Same.

[C]

Same because drag queens, they can be so funny and so dry humor.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So I was always like, oh, my God, what are the questions gonna be about?

[B]

They're always nice to you, though, for some reason.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Well, Bruno, we're at the end.

[B]

We have come. So we do. We do want you to make a decision. There's no forcing. But I want you, if you feel comfortable enough right now, based on the answers we gave. We gave you, based on our us approaching you at the festival and the.

[A]

Movie theater, based on the amount of seasons of Drag Race we've done with you, you have to decide and choose someone.

[C]

Well, listen, I heard. I heard amazing things from you, but I know you're about to get married. Married. You are not single. And that's gonna be my. My right here. You lose.

[A]

He has two boyfriends.

[B]

I will end it with Jacob right now.

[A]

He has two boyfriends.

[B]

You have a boyfriend, too.

[A]

Not anymore.

[C]

I'm getting my heart broken in the middle of this episode.

[B]

All right, Jacob.

[C]

Do you see, guys, how you need. I need all of you. Just send a DM and help me.

[B]

If you're single and you're not getting married, you're not dating the producer of the show, please feel free to contact Bruno if you see him on Grindr, but be respectful and don't assume he's lying about who he is. Wow, wow, wow.

[C]

That's shocking. All the energy.

[A]

I told you all the questions.

[C]

Do you see how much time. Oh, no.

[B]

Bruno. Where can they find you Online? Where can they find you?

[C]

Please, please.

[B]

What's your Instagram?

[C]

Really? Please follow me on Instagram. Bruno C. Alcantara. And I'm casting, as you know.

[A]

Oh, those queens and Big Brother Brazil.

[B]

What is your problem?

[A]

You get Bruno now.

[B]

I'm waiting.

[A]

I'll be fierce. Thank you, Bruno. Bye, everyone. Bye, darling.