The One With Ezra Michel

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: "The One With Ezra Michel"

Podcast Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen
Guest: Ezra Michel
Date: November 3, 2021
Main Theme:
A riotous, candid, and chaotic discussion about life and queer experiences in Los Angeles, featuring a deep dive into personal journeys, city culture, LGBTQ+ relationships, and—most importantly—the differences between LA and New York, with musician Ezra Michel joining the iconic duo.

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This episode features Bob The Drag Queen and Monét X Change, joined by LA-native singer-songwriter Ezra Michel, for an energetic, humor-filled conversation about living in LA versus New York, queer nightlife, dating, and evolving perspectives as creatives and partners. Along the way, expect typical Sibling Rivalry banter, shade, and plenty of drag wisdom.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

1. Podcasting, Mics, and Friendly Competition

• Monét and Bob compare podcast gear and show quality, with typical playful one-upmanship.
  • [00:53] Bob: "Sure. Mics are everything. I use them on my podcast with Lady Bunny and they're great."
  • Monét: "Do you think your podcast is better than—"
  • Bob: "Oh, for sure."
• Discussion about the best mics and podcasting setups shifts into their relentless mutual drag and support.

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2. Elon Musk, Wealth, and 'Trickle Down' Economics

• A playful yet incisive debate about the influence of billionaires like Elon Musk on everyday life and the economy.
  • [01:24] Monét: "We're all affected by Mr. Musk."
  • Bob: "By the amount of Teslas you see in Hollywood?"
  • Monét: "No, it’s just the amount of money he has and the amount of taxes he’s not paying. I think that we're all directly affected."
• They riff on the uselessness of trickle-down economics, the misuse of statistics, and how people love to throw out fake stat-facts.
  • [03:24] Monet: "Most statistics I hear, I don’t believe them."

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3. Health, Fitness, & Gym Culture

• The hosts discuss health routines, gym motivation, and the classic struggle to prioritize fitness amid busy schedules.
  • Monét shares plans for a "10 week transformation."
    • [04:32] "I'm doing a big reveal... my 10 week transformation."
  • Bob: “For the month of October I'm giving up alcohol, cheese. I'm going to [work out] twice a day.”
  • Playful debate about how much time going to the gym ‘actually’ takes, and the importance of convenience, accountability, and workout partners.
    • [06:27] Bob: “It’s a negligible amount of time.”
    • Monét: “I disagree... it’s literally, literally 40 minutes of travel...”
  • Discussions about working out with friends vs solo, and the accountability of a good workout buddy.
    • [08:38] Monet: “I’ve only found legit two people [...] that I like working out with.”

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4. LA vs. New York: Where's Home & Who's Got the Best City?

• Each shares their moving history and weighs in on the classic LA vs. NY debate—including the cultural obsession both cities have with each other.
  • [22:29] On how long you need to live somewhere to "have lived" there:
    • Bob: "Once you're getting mail there, you live there."
    • Ezra: “Once you start renting a place, you live there.”
  • Ezra shares their California roots; Monét and Bob rattle off their own nomadic moves around the country.
  • Classic Sibling Rivalry shade about who is a "real" New Yorker and regional stereotypes.
    • [30:11] Bob: "I am a New Yorker, unlike you. You're a fake New Yorker."

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5. On Queer Nightlife & Drag Shows

• Monét recounts NYC nightlife connections, Bob pushes Monet to throw her signature party “Bloodbath” in LA, and they reminisce about the logistics and hustle behind nightlife events.
  • [13:04] “I've done the creme de la creme…”
  • Monét: “I had a lot of connections and nightlife in New York City.”
  • Banter about who has more Hollywood connections and the difference in producing nightlife shows LA vs NY.

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6. Required Viewing & Pop Culture Preferences

• Monét insists loved ones watch "The Color Purple" and jokes about being a stern but loving media curator.
  • [16:47] Monét: “Color Purple, which is required viewing for me, for people in my life.”
  • Bob: “Would you say ‘required’ means you have to do it if you’re going to be my friend?”
• The trio reminisce on Power Rangers, X-Men, musicals, and cultural touchstones that defined their youth.

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7. Growing Up Near Oprah & LA Myths

• Ezra tells the infamous story about Oprah’s rumored iPod Halloween giveaways in the 2000s and growing up in Santa Barbara.
  • [17:56] Ezra: “The line for trick or treating at Oprah’s house was always way too long... There was always this rumor that she handed out iPods during Halloween. I never met a single person who got an iPod.”

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8. Dating in Los Angeles, New York, & Beyond

• Explores queer dating culture, polyamory, and first meetings.
  • Monét and Ezra discuss their own romance origins:
    • [51:05] “In the beginning... I thought we were going to go to dinner... then you just sent me the address to your hotel room.”
  • Bob shares his current romance is “very romantic,” but keeps further details private.
  • Ezra prefers long-distance dating:
    • [55:18] “I keep finding these like long distance people and I prefer it that way. [...] I find the idea of like dating somebody else like in person would be just a lot.”

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9. Interpersonal Dynamics & Family Interactions

• The trio play out a hilarious improvised role-play on talking to young children, revealing deep discomfort, comedic improvisation, and the queer uncle/aunt approach.
  • [43:49] Bob: “I feel like you’re that gay uncle that picks them up and you’re like (mimes bland greeting).”
• Discussion on the weirdness of being handed the phone at family gatherings, and the etiquette of holding conversations with toddlers.

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10. City Life: Pace, Smell, Weather, & Transportation

• A deep dive into urban experiences, with plenty of metaphors and sass:
  • Bob struggles with LA’s “slow” pace versus New York’s urgency.
    • [32:27] "People are just moving... like people are in front of the line, just sitting there... get your [order] and move."
  • A debate on the (in)famous LA smog, New York’s garbage stench, and claims that "the city just smells."
    • [59:21] Monet: "In New York City, there's just like piles as high as an elephant's eye on the street, and you can just smell [...] on one block you will smell 10 things and only one of them is good."
  • LA’s mild, overcast winters vs. the relentless grayness of Portland and the Bay Area.

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11. Notable Quotes, Zingers, and Memorable Moments

• On Verifying Facts:
  • [14:00] Bob: “I just want to hear you say it on the record.”
• On Kindness:
  • [15:27] Monét: “I am a kind person. I am kind. You think I'm kind?”
  • Bob: “You're...You're like a Sour Patch Kid.”
• On Broadway:
  • [34:47] Monet: “Nothing compares to the production value of a Broadway show.”
  • [34:53] Ezra: “I saw the Beatles Love show in Vegas and that was exciting.”
• On Relationship Texting:
  • [53:14] Bob (mocking): “The poem was like a haiku. Like, ‘hey, your eyes are blue. I want to fuck you. Come take me, please.’”
• On Dating Digital Privacy:
  • [54:20] Monet: “If Jennifer Lawrence buk hockey pictures can get leaks, I gotta film that. Ezra Michel's iPhone is not the Pentagon.”

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TIMESTAMPS FOR MAJOR SEGMENTS

| Timestamp | Topic / Segment | |-----------|------------------| | 00:50 | Oprah’s Halloween & iPod Myth (Ezra’s childhood) | | 09:00 | Gym accountability, gym partners, and routines | | 16:47 | “Color Purple” as required queer culture | | 22:29 | How long you need to live somewhere ("lived there" debate) | | 29:15 | LA vs New York stereotypes and the 'city wars' | | 34:47 | LA’s slow pace, Starbucks lines, culture shock | | 42:41 | Talking to kids and familial phone etiquette | | 49:04 | Dating in LA & Monét/Ezra’s first date story | | 54:20 | Digital privacy in queer dating culture | | 57:33 | The ‘myth’ of LA smog vs. New York garbage | | 59:21 | The smell of New York vs. other cities | | 61:37 | Where to find Ezra, Bob, and Monét online |

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FINAL REFLECTIONS

Theme Recap:
The episode is a comedic snapshot of queer life, with a focus on how place, community, and culture shape experience and identity. Whether dissecting the subtle cultural differences between LA and New York or poking fun at drag nightlife and queer romantic customs, Bob, Monét, and Ezra provide warmth, wit, and a dose of realness.

Speaker Tone:
The episode is playful, sarcastic, open, self-effacing, and unfiltered. The conversational energy bounces between intense teasing and honest personal sharing, with each host and guest displaying their signature humor and authenticity.

Memorable Sendoff:

• [62:58] Ezra: “Thanks for having me.”
• [62:54] Monét: “Thank you so much for joining us on our podcast today…”

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WHERE TO FIND THEM

• Ezra Michel: @EzraMichelMusic on Instagram & TikTok
• Bob The Drag Queen: Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, and on the vodka aisle drinking Serve Vodka
• Monét X Change: All major socials and, perhaps jokingly, "in the gutter after you hear this vod."

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LISTEN FOR:

• Hilarious, honest anecdotes about queer life and nightlife
• The difference between LA & NY, told through the eyes of actual insiders
• Playful and shameless drag queen banter that makes Sibling Rivalry a perennial favorite

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Sibling Rivalry’s "The One With Ezra Michel" is a must-listen for fans of candid queer culture, drag royalty, and anyone who loves a good argument about the merits of LA versus NYC.

Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sam. On today's episode, Bob the Drag Queen pulls the plug On Bloodbath la, we

[Monet X Change]

welcome Ezra Michel to talk about Los Angeles, California.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we find out what made Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

Bitch, what have you done in la?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nothing.

[Monet X Change]

We find out what made Monette Shane say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like you're that gay uncle that picks them up and you're like. And we find out what made Ezra Michelle say this.

[Ezra Michelle]

The line for trick or treating at Oprah's house was always too long.

[Monet X Change]

I listened to your advice and I got the short mics.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sure. Mics are everything. I use them on my podcast with Lady Bunny and they're great.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think your pocket is better than.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, for sure.

[Monet X Change]

Yikes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know the new Venom movies coming out?

[Monet X Change]

I do know. There's posters everywhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you watch the first one?

[Monet X Change]

I did watch the first one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did you like it?

[Monet X Change]

You know, the, the Elon Musk character was really too close to home.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know Elon? Why do you personally. Triggered by Elon Musk?

[Monet X Change]

We're all affected by Mr. Musk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, by. Sure. Indirectly.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, no, no. I would say Elon Musk is directly affecting us. How?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

By the amount of Teslas you see in Hollywood?

[Monet X Change]

No, it's just the amount of money that he has and the amount of taxes he's not paying. I think they were all directly affected

[Bob the Drag Queen]

in a trickle down effect. Not directly. That is definitely indirect.

[Monet X Change]

Indirect. I think it is direct. I think that when you have that much money, the, the action that you make really affect basically everyone in your. In the economy that you stimulate in

[Bob the Drag Queen]

a trickle down way.

[Monet X Change]

Do what?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not directly. Like there's like, how. How is Elon Musk? How is Elon Musk?

[Podcast Announcer]

Is this.

[Monet X Change]

So the thing about trickle. The thing about trickle down economics is that it's been proven by lots of financial people that it doesn't work and it's not a thing. So it's not like trickle down economics.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Some financiers believe, yes. That to be true. Some also say, no, that's not true.

[Monet X Change]

But. But for example.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But among financiers, they're debating on the validity of that statement.

[Monet X Change]

It's kind of like there are a few scientists saying that global warming is a thing, but the overwhelming majority of scientists all agree that global warming is negatively impacting the planet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For sure.

[Monet X Change]

But there are indeed a few scientists who are like, I don't know, Jesus and stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But the same is not for financiers.

[Monet X Change]

It is though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is not. What is this? You know What I want Oculaproo. And if you read the ocular proof, I'll be like, bob was right. But that is not true.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, you know, you caught me more. I did not come into this conversation being prepared to talk about you never do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ain't stopped you before.

[Monet X Change]

So, I mean, maybe one day I'll, I'll find some statistics on, on, you know, statistics.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love when people say statistically speaking. I just love when people come with us. That shit. I'm like, it just feels like a whole gathering. Statistically speaking. The, the, the.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I just did it. And you were like, no, no, but

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you, first of all, you didn't say statistically speaking. And normally these people with the statistic, oh my God, I can't, I cannot.

[Monet X Change]

You've never spoken statistically.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Statistically speaking, they come, they come, they are ready to go.

[Monet X Change]

I don't feel like most of most statistics I hear, I don't believe them. It just, it sounds like people just saying numbers. You ever heard the expression like 98.4% of all statistics are made up on stock? Like, it's insane. People are like, well, actually statistics say that BBD bop born. I'm like, you don't have that locked in.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Loaded. Well, are you a statistician?

[Monet X Change]

A statistician?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I, I can't say these words. It's so many S's and T's. I, I have a fat tongue. I can't.

[Monet X Change]

Is your tongue bigger than most? I was hearing someone in their last I'm juicy mouth.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did we talk about this?

[Monet X Change]

I think that's one reason they were like talking. They took their tongue out and I was like, your tongue is completely scalloped.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ew. Oh, not ill. I got seen that. I don't, I don't defend anyone to scallop tongue, but when you meet a scalloped tongue, it's always like nine.

[Monet X Change]

Monet canceled.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But they say that your tongue gets scalloped because you don't drink enough water.

[Monet X Change]

I just tweeted out today, no matter what you tell your trainer, they will say, are you drinking enough water? I could snap my leg falling off a mountain and be like, well, how much water are you drinking? Like, everything is like, Rich is going to see this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Rich is going to be like, bob, I can see the fucking Dorito dust on your top.

[Monet X Change]

I have not eaten any Doritos today. I have been eating actually very healthy today. I'm doing a big reveal on December 6th of my 10 week transformation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, for the month of. The month of October. I'm giving up alcohol, cheese. I'm going to. Twice a day.

[Monet X Change]

What is twice a day?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Insanity in the morning and training and being.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you're working out twice a day? Yeah. For the whole month of October.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whole month of October.

[Monet X Change]

Every single day. Every.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Every single day.

[Monet X Change]

41 days. You're going to work out 62 times.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's my goal. I used to. Like, back before I. Like when I. Before, like, right before I met you, like, right after college, when I, like, lost a whole bunch of weight, that's what I was doing. Well, not the dairy and alcohol, but I was doing twice a day.

[Monet X Change]

You were like. You were. You were, like, 21 years old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, but I was doing twice a day, bitch. I was getting. I was getting it in. I wanted to give up dairy for a while because I've heard how dairy negatively impacts. Even though you don't realize it or not, even though you don't get the bubble guts and shit, dairy's still not good for your diet.

[Monet X Change]

Well, everyone's lactose intolerant. Right. I feel like that is a really, really lofty goal. And I think that maybe you're setting the bar really high.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Because you have also work to do. That's. That's one thing I've realized. Like, trying to work out and stuff and, like, work as well is a whole thing. Like today I had. I was just sitting here in this room, just doing interviews. I kept. I was. I was like, I gotta go to Running Canyon. And I'd ended up having. I made one little mistake. I went to the doctor's office and I left my medicine there. That would have been the time that I could have gone to the gym or go to Runyon Canyon. And I ended up just not being able to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, we had a whole. Back when we had a whole conversation about you allocating your gym time. Remember this conversation we were talking about. You remember, Jacob? We were talking about you setting time to go to the gym. And I was like, bob, the gym

[Monet X Change]

is right around the corner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, yeah, Wendy, but I could just work out at home. I was like, but the gym is, like, five minutes from your house. I was like, yeah, but that's five minutes walking there. That's five minutes walking back.

[Monet X Change]

I think going to the gym. Going to the gym.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was a very funny conference.

[Monet X Change]

Well, going to the gym takes time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It does, but, yeah, it takes. It's.

[Monet X Change]

It's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's a negligible amount of time.

[Monet X Change]

I disagree. For example, I go to the gym three times a week now. And it's literally, literally 40 minutes of travel that is not to and from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

That is not negligible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you're into 24 hours in the day. That 40 minutes is negligible.

[Monet X Change]

So do you think I'm awake for 24 hours? I'm asleep for like eight.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You don't sleep for eight hours.

[Monet X Change]

I often do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You often sleep six. Maybe six.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so let's say six. I am now down to. I don't want to do math. 18 hours. And then I have spent 40 minutes

[Bob the Drag Queen]

going to the gym.

[Monet X Change]

40 minutes just going to and from the gym.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so now you have. How much is that? 15 hours and 20 minutes left.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, then I also have to work. I have. I. I work more than eight hours a day. Every single day, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I'm saying. So let's say gym to and from the 20 minutes you were in an hour.

[Monet X Change]

But also, not to mention everything else I'm doing too. Like, for example, I went to the doctor's office today.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So that's an hour and 40 minutes.

[Monet X Change]

I spent two hours going to and from the doctor's office today.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right.

[Monet X Change]

Two entire hours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, it's also the gym you pick. You can pick a gym that's closer to you. There's a, there's an LA Fitness, literally two minutes on the road.

[Monet X Change]

But I work out with someone at the gym that I go to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but, but I'm saying there are, There are ways that you could fudge things to make them more convenient for you. So instead of taking the 20 minutes to go to the gym, you can call. Cost you five minutes and that's 10 minutes.

[Monet X Change]

But then who am I working out with? What. What is the quality of my workout?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yourself.

[Monet X Change]

I like my trainer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you, before your. We're talking about before your trainer. You, when you were.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I wouldn't go to this gym if Rich wasn't working out there. I don't even have a membership with this gym.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm saying back when you were watching Heights, when we had this original conversation, which.

[Monet X Change]

I used to go to the gym around the corner. LA Fitness. No, I used to go to Planet Fitness.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's what I mean.

[Monet X Change]

That gym was much closer. The reason I went to that gym, I didn't even love that gym. But it was just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't either.

[Monet X Change]

It was convenient, but it was walking distance. Now, back when I had just gotten off a drag race, I used to go to David Barton.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's crazy. People who travel, who travel on the train to the gym. I'm like, that is literally.

[Monet X Change]

Did you know why I went there was the cause. I was working out with my friend Matt Griffin, and I liked working out with him. So I was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is there any relation to Peter Griffin?

[Monet X Change]

I haven't asked, to be honest, and I don't want to make him feel bad about his famous relatives. Right, right. But I was working out with someone that I like working out with, which is very rare that I find someone I like working out with. I've only found legit two people since I have been working out that I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like working out with.

[Monet X Change]

Ridge and Matt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, also, you have this thing about, like. Like, when you people go to the gym together, it's like, we're going to the gym at the same time. We're not working on it. We're not side by side on the treadmill. We're not side by side lifting the weights. You just. You just know that someone is keeping you accountable that you're going to the gym with every day.

[Monet X Change]

I don't like that, though. I like. I like working out with someone. Like, we're doing the workouts and talking and, like, kind of hanging out. I hate that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like my music in the gym, but there.

[Monet X Change]

I don't listen music in the gym or podcast. I listen to podcasts in the gym. When I was. So when I. When I was in Berkeley, I was going to the gym by myself pretty frequently, actually. And I would listen to Inside the Closet with Mateo Lane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ugh. I'm kidding. Love that podcast. I'm kidding. I love.

[Monet X Change]

And Emma.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Emma, every time I say something slightly,

[Monet X Change]

Mateo will crawl you and cry. Oh, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mateo would be like.

[Monet X Change]

He's very sensitive.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would get a call. I'd be like, Mateo. So you think that I. That I.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you mentioned that someone was handsome on the podcast and Mateo had a wreck.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, the person is. The person is beautiful. Like, what the fuck?

[Ezra Michelle]

You look.

[Monet X Change]

You look relaxed in a. It's like. It's like this. It's like this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What are you doing? Jacob? Is this true?

[Monet X Change]

Like, I feel like normally we're like this kind of. And today you're kind of like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, because I've seen other. I've watched episodes, and when I sit like this, I don't like how I look like that. So I'm giving you.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, she's turning the profile.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I'm not.

[Monet X Change]

I was wondering if you were drinking

[Bob the Drag Queen]

some Green Apple serve vodka, which is available everywhere. Everyone should purchase Monet Exchange Green Apple Serve Vodka. It's, you know, you don't I heard you were drinking blood orange Candy Views posted. She was like, I'll have every flavor except blood orange, please. And then some fool on Twitter is like, literally, this dissertation, like, well, I'm not getting it. Because when you buy it, they all get a cut and then it, like, breaking. I was like, first of all, what the fuck are you talking about?

[Monet X Change]

You literally. Contract leaked. Contract leaked.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You literally know nothing.

[Monet X Change]

You're literally making it up. Contract leaked. Exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exposed. So these people are making their own fan fiction about how the proceeds are being split. I'm like, no, bitch, my fucking money is my money. You don't. The fuck you're talking about, like, dumb.

[Monet X Change]

So you think your fans are dumb?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He wasn't my fan. He's a fuck. My fans aren't idiots. He's a fucking idiot.

[Monet X Change]

You think you have any fans that are idiots?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

What is an idiot? Who is an idiot?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That guy.

[Monet X Change]

I was talking to somebody.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm about to read his app.

[Monet X Change]

You will not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will.

[Monet X Change]

Monet. We bleep out everyone's name. Not a. Now you're going to call out a stranger? We're not in the business of cyberbullying Monet at. Let me see. Let me see it at Sharon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's how I sound. Like that.

[Ezra Michelle]

Because.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you seen the other jobs? You and I look wide as. We look wide. Wide as hell. What do you mean?

[Monet X Change]

Speak for yourself, bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I see you too.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. I cannot. But I'm so mad we didn't tell Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

I tried to remind us to tell Monet to bring her corset because today was the day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, you were gonna put on

[Monet X Change]

the fucking alien costume.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Somebody tells you I'll be back here very soon.

[Monet X Change]

I'm trying to do it before your 85 workouts in the month of October. Don't be trying to do it on Halloween when you feeling slim and trim up in this bitch.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How come you should have planned a bloodbath in la? You still can't? No, there's not enough time. You know, just say you hate la. You don't want to give a lay the bloodbath experience. So rude.

[Monet X Change]

I do not hail. I do not hail. But I had a lot of connections and nightlife in New York City.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob, you can get connections, too. You can do it at Precinct nightclub.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway, from working in LA, in New York City for 12 years, I had a lot of connections to a lot of bar owners, a lot of venue owners.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did it at stage 48.

[Monet X Change]

I did it also at the Copacabana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who you know at the Copacabana?

[Monet X Change]

Now? I know somebody at the Copacabana. I. You look like I was some nobody bitch in New York City.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm saying. I'm saying.

[Monet X Change]

But the question is, who do you know as a couple? Let me say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was back before you went on tv.

[Monet X Change]

No, I wasn't. Bobby, you ever. No, I wasn't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your first bloodbath. You were not on TV yet. You were not at TV on your first bloodbath. I was.

[Monet X Change]

Because the first kiss at Blood Bath was Kim Chi.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, now you are on fucking HBO and all your shit. You.

[Monet X Change]

Something tells me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Something tells me you can get more connections now than you did back then. Can you just say that you have a. I have a sneaking suspicion that you can get more connections to the account.

[Monet X Change]

What have you done in la? I don't. I don't. Nothing. Oh, but Monet, you've been on TV twice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nothing. I did Mickey's. We home.

[Monet X Change]

Honey, this is Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've done the creme de la creme.

[Monet X Change]

I'm with you. We were there together, Monet. Doing it together.

[Ezra Michelle]

Right.

[Monet X Change]

This is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But don't talk about how my connection got you that gay.

[Monet X Change]

This is Monet. Exchange from. What was that show you did on HBO with Shangela?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Deathly Hollow?

[Monet X Change]

No, the show you did with Shangela on hbo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't recall.

[Monet X Change]

What is it, baby?

[Ezra Michelle]

Lovecraft.

[Monet X Change]

Lovecraft Country. Monet from Lovecraft Country. Monet from Surbaca.

[Ezra Michelle]

Exactly.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is servbacca. They're available everywhere. Agree.

[Monet X Change]

Get a gig in la.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a question.

[Monet X Change]

Don't be judging. Something tells me you can get a gig in la.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't want to throw a party in la. Bloodbath.

[Monet X Change]

Is that. I did not say I want to throw a party. I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've done it for years.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I threw parties. So me and Mitch were. I was more into shows. Mitch was into parties. So we would do shows and parties. And usually if we did a party, it was Mitch's idea and we did a show. It was my idea.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So what's the tea on Bloodbath? Can I get an answer, Monet?

[Monet X Change]

I'm not doing one. You know I'm not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know.

[Monet X Change]

Yes, you did know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just want to hear you say it on the right.

[Monet X Change]

You know how I know you know? Because you asked me why I wasn't doing a bloodbath. So you fully adm. You are a lion ass. I'm so glad I Got that video of you. Oh, my God, I'm so glad I got the video of you on my. If y' all want to go check it out, it's on my tick tock right now. Is the video of Monet saying something and then saying she didn't say it. And then I told her she said it and then Monet was like, well, whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's fully also recognized that they want about conflict resolution. You moment your way through a thing, then say you said it. But all the fans are like, I did say it. No, not all the fans, okay? The majority of them are like, bob didn't say it. Statistically speaking. Bobby didn't say it.

[Monet X Change]

The main comment said Jacob. The main comment with the most like says, Bob did say it, but he mumbled. Exactly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mumbled.

[Monet X Change]

But you're saying I didn't say it. You're saying everyone's had it say it. Which is not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm supposed to decipher what your mumble is saying.

[Monet X Change]

I'm like yours.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The hell you do.

[Monet X Change]

I decide for your little.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Apparently you don't.

[Monet X Change]

I decide your little moments all the time. I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't. The same is not for me. For you.

[Monet X Change]

See, you said the same is not for me. For you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Monet X Change]

See how I deciphered that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. So the point is we have both. We are both guilty.

[Monet X Change]

Don't try to turn the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we're both guilty of saying that we same things on the podcast that we did not or mumbled through.

[Monet X Change]

Caught Lacking. I will say this. The comments on the video I post is like, this is a constant pattern for more than X. Ok. And what

[Bob the Drag Queen]

are the constant patterns of you kindness?

[Monet X Change]

Putting up with you bitch. Having great ideas.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If your virtues are heavy in the kindness area, they need to be recalibrated.

[Monet X Change]

You don't think I'm kind?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

You don't think I'm kind?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, you're a kind person.

[Monet X Change]

I am a kind person. I am kind. You think I'm kind?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're. You're like a Sour Patch Kid.

[Monet X Change]

I am very kind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a sour Patch Kid.

[Monet X Change]

What'd you try to get me on? Those bitter cabbage children. It's like. It's like the knockoff of Sour Patch Kids. Those. Those sweet treats. The name. No, you. You're the one. I ate them at your house. Smart snack.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, smart. Sweet.

[Monet X Change]

And it's called like, sweet Smart like children.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I never. I've only had the watermelon once. I don't know what that is.

[Monet X Change]

It's Called, like children with behavior problems who are salty or some shit. All right, we'll be back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll take a break.

[Monet X Change]

So, Monet, are you going to behave yourself today?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are you going to be not a bitch?

[Monet X Change]

Probably not. You just told me right before the break that I was a nasty, mean black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I didn't say the part. I said all the other ones. So you are nigger. We.

[Monet X Change]

We have in the studio with us Ezra Michelle, who was born right here in Los Angeles, California. Los Angeles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Angeles. Because they were talking about Los Angeles.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. And as City of Angels and we all hung out the other night.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, you watched the Color Purple.

[Monet X Change]

And Color Purple, which is required viewing for me. People in my life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We almost makes people in your life. They have to watch a color.

[Monet X Change]

I don't have to. I recommend it to everyone.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, it's been on the list since we started dating.

[Monet X Change]

I don't make anyone do anything. I often.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you say required. That means you have to do it if you're going to be my brother.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. It's also more of a euphemism.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. I mean, I was. I was getting clarity, and you clarified it, and we moved on. But then you double back.

[Monet X Change]

You came back, you're like, I don't

[Bob the Drag Queen]

make anyone do anything.

[Monet X Change]

Why are you hitting the table? We have our microphones.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

These are sure mics. You never had a sh. Mic before.

[Monet X Change]

How many you have?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have two.

[Ezra Michelle]

I have one. I just bought it today because what we.

[Monet X Change]

Today. And because we're dating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have four. Not how that works.

[Ezra Michelle]

Oh, is that how it works? So I have four, too.

[Monet X Change]

We. We.

[Ezra Michelle]

We both have four.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So now you have ownership over. Got it. Work. Interesting.

[Ezra Michelle]

What's mine is yours.

[Monet X Change]

There it is.

[Ezra Michelle]

There we go.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you're born in LA County.

[Ezra Michelle]

I was born in Culver City, Louisiana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, County. How's it going to high school here? I feel like it's.

[Ezra Michelle]

I didn't go to high school here. I was raised in Santa Barbara. I was born here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Next. Next to Oprah.

[Ezra Michelle]

Next to Oprah, yes. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

The line for trick or treating at Oprah's house was always way too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I couldn't. Are you being serious?

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

There was a line for church.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, okay, so there was always this rumor that she handed out ipods during Halloween. I never met a single person who got an ipod. But, like, that was the rumor around town, so. But the way.

[Monet X Change]

And the crazy thing is, this is in the 90s, right?

[Ezra Michelle]

Oh, my gosh, no. I wasn't trick or treating in the 90s I was.

[Monet X Change]

Don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What year were you born?

[Ezra Michelle]

I was four in 1999. I was. I was born in 95. 95.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whoa, money.

[Monet X Change]

You were 1990.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. That's five. Anyone?

[Ezra Michelle]

You're young.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyone who's born.

[Monet X Change]

Everyone on the podcast is young. All three of us.

[Ezra Michelle]

We're all young.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly. All three of us are very young people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

95. In 95, I was five years old. That's probably. I started just watching Power Rangers at that point.

[Ezra Michelle]

That's pretty cool of you.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love Power.

[Ezra Michelle]

Which one was your favorite color? Power Ranger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't have a favorite color. I just like them all.

[Ezra Michelle]

What? Whoa.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would have, like, a favorite one.

[Ezra Michelle]

You're subversive.

[Monet X Change]

But they all have such distinct personalities.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just liked. I like the fantasy of it all. I wasn't focused on one individual like

[Monet X Change]

all the X Men.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I did like Storm. I like Storm and Wolverine the most.

[Monet X Change]

I liked Billy the Blue Ranger.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Billy the Blue Ranger.

[Monet X Change]

You wear glasses, and everyone was. Whenever we play Power Rangers, everyone, you have to be Billy because you wear glasses.

[Ezra Michelle]

And then you were like, I like Billy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's fine, because you were Chippy Blackie Blindy.

[Ezra Michelle]

Whoa.

[Monet X Change]

Wow. Only avid podcast listeners come to work to get bullied.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Only people who listen to the podcast would get. Would get that. So, Ezra, you get it, right?

[Ezra Michelle]

I. Oh, well, actually, I don't listen to this podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you're coming clean, which is nice.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm gonna be honest with you, and I don't feel bad about it. I talk to you all the time.

[Monet X Change]

You do?

[Ezra Michelle]

And I honestly don't want to hear you fight with someone.

[Monet X Change]

Well, we don't. Okay. Our podcast is about more than fighting.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we don't really fight. Lots of things. We. We love each other here. We hug, we cry, we do many things. It's. It's almost like we're humans. We experience so many different.

[Ezra Michelle]

I mean, that's just. That's what. That's why I don't gravitate towards it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, you know, I feel you.

[Monet X Change]

Well, it's all.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyone who's listening, brand new.

[Monet X Change]

We do a lot more than fighting here. Every podcast, we are. We are a family.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like a giant tree.

[Monet X Change]

Name that movie.

[Ezra Michelle]

We are RuPaul's Drag Race.

[Monet X Change]

There was a Chuck Turner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, shut up, you chunky whore.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Ezra Michelle]

Everything.

[Monet X Change]

There's like, they're all.

[Ezra Michelle]

I recommend this podcast. I really do, and I'm an advocate for people to listen to it. I'm a big fan of yours. I'm a big fan of yours. I follow you on Instagram now.

[Monet X Change]

Do you follow each other?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We don't follow each other.

[Ezra Michelle]

No. You don't follow me back. It's fine.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't know you follow me.

[Ezra Michelle]

It's okay. I. I didn't take it personal. I did. I notice. Yeah, but. But it's okay.

[Monet X Change]

Is there a reason you don't follow Ezra on Instagram?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I didn't. I don't think I've ever seen your profile before.

[Ezra Michelle]

It's okay. I recommend it.

[Monet X Change]

But then again, like, I've tagged Ezra

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and Loz, but do you recommend your profile more than our podcast?

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Monet X Change]

So do you think you could follow Ezra now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe?

[Monet X Change]

Like, now, like, what are you doing now?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll do it on my own time.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, do it on your own time. There's no pressure. You're missing out on some pretty sweet content. I mean, I'm sure, but I don't

[Monet X Change]

like your new angle.

[Ezra Michelle]

It looks good on the camera.

[Monet X Change]

I know, but it's like no one is doing that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you are projecting. What do you. What you think you projecting that weird TikTok shit? That's what you're doing.

[Monet X Change]

Los Angeles County. Okay, first of all, I have been living in LA for a little over a year now, which feels wild to say, really? That it's been like. It doesn't feel like it's been a year, but it has been over a year. I've been here for over a year in this town.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm pretty nomadic. I never feel tied down to one place. Like, if I could, like, pack up on my shit and move to fucking Portland tomorrow and I'll be like, where I did that?

[Monet X Change]

How many places have you lived it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I lived in St. Lucia, I lived in Atlanta. I lived in Brooklyn and then moved to Princeton, moved to Portland for two years and back to Brooklyn and then Harlem, the Bronx, Harlem, and now here.

[Monet X Change]

How long do they live somewhere to be somewhere to say you live there. What is the amount of time I think once you're getting mail there, you live there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I would agree with that.

[Ezra Michelle]

Once you start renting a place, you live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you live there.

[Ezra Michelle]

I lived in Sacramento for two months of the pandemic, and I. I got mail there. I lived there, you know? Yeah, two months I lived there.

[Monet X Change]

I have lived. Have you live.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have you ever lived outside California?

[Ezra Michelle]

Never got it. I've always.

[Monet X Change]

I never lived outside of California.

[Ezra Michelle]

No, I've. I've lived in la, Santa Barbara, Humboldt county, which is like the stoner Capital of California. Like, up at the top. I used to. Humboldt County. I lived in Oakland.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oakland.

[Ezra Michelle]

Oakland's great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In the Bay Area.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah. That's where I started. My transition is Oakland.

[Monet X Change]

I saw barely any oak trees in Oakland.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Huh. Is.

[Ezra Michelle]

There's a few.

[Monet X Change]

It's Oakland.

[Ezra Michelle]

It's the. The emblem. The symbol is a big. The big tree. Big oak.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't really go looking for oak trees.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How much time did you spend in Oakland?

[Monet X Change]

Well, I was in Berkeley, so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, but did you spend a

[Monet X Change]

lot of time in Oakland sometime? I didn't spend. Like, I was probably. I probably spent more time in Oakland than you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think you have. When I was dating the guy who

[Monet X Change]

lived

[Bob the Drag Queen]

well, like, we would spend time. A lot of time in the Bay Area that time. Like, I was. Spend time in San Francisco a lot. Oakland.

[Monet X Change]

I just. I just don't feel like you were spending more time in the Bay Area than I did when I was living there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. But. Okay. How much time would you say you spend in Oakland?

[Monet X Change]

I probably went to Oakland maybe once every two weeks or maybe sometimes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To do what?

[Monet X Change]

To go to the bars, because there's not a whole lot of nightlife in Berkeley, so there's more going on in Oakland than there is in Berkeley. And I wasn't gonna go all the way to San Francisco. You have to, like. It is.

[Ezra Michelle]

That's a whole track.

[Monet X Change]

Going to San Francisco from East Bay is a journey. So to do stuff, you go to Oakland.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah. Even though it's like 15 minutes on BART, it still feels like this, like, massive track.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I maybe spent, like, a day in Vogue.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

I've definitely spent a lot more time,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, half a day.

[Monet X Change]

Even more time than you have in Oakland. And I used to live in the East Bay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God. We've got to use this. You. You love saying to everyone you live the. The Bay. You love it. You can't stop. You said it 18 times on this podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Well, we're talking about where we lived. I had a chance to mention.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, you said I used to live in the bay. I lived in East Bay, Moni. I lived in the bay. You said it three times the past two minutes.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you had a chance. I say where. You haven't had a chance to say where I live yet. So I've lived.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so your places.

[Monet X Change]

Columbus, Georgia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob can't even stomach it anymore.

[Monet X Change]

City, Alabama. LaGrange, Georgia. Corinth, Mississippi. Atlanta, Georgia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're gonna mail at all these places?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Minneapolis, Minnesota. Missoula, Montana.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That doesn't even sound like a real place.

[Monet X Change]

Missoula.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That just sounds like a bullshit place. That's where the University of Montana is. I'm sure. Missoula, Montana just sounds like a made up place.

[Monet X Change]

It's very real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It sounds like Never Never Land.

[Monet X Change]

It is very, very real.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it.

[Monet X Change]

I was in. And then I moved to New York. I said New York City. I lived in Queens, Manhattan. The East Bay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You lived in New York Bay? What the fuck is the East Bay? Oh, like East Bay, like out in Queens.

[Monet X Change]

Did I just tell you the East

[Ezra Michelle]

Bay is like the Bay area?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All the East Bay. Got it. But it's also this east. The East Bay side.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, you live all the way

[Bob the Drag Queen]

out there in Queens.

[Monet X Change]

I lived in Ozone park, though, which is pretty. That's damn near East Bay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, East Bay is north east where you. That's like near.

[Monet X Change]

Far Rockaway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that's.

[Ezra Michelle]

Are you talking about a different East Bay you went live.

[Monet X Change]

No, I know now Ozone park is not Far Rockaway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ozone park. It's near Far Rockaway.

[Monet X Change]

1. It's one train stop away from the Far Rockaway. It is literally one. Because I remember one time, if you fall asleep on the train, you wake up in Far Rockaway. So if you. If you go over. If you take the A train all the way to Ozone park, then you go over Jamaica Bay, and then you wake up on the other side. You're in Ozone. You're in Far Rockaway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I. I used to a guy in Ozone park, he was this beautiful, beautiful, beautiful dude. And we used to have. He was very deep in the closet. Used to have great sex. Well, okay, not great sex. It was fine sex. But he was like, so deep in the closet, even he still texts me to this day. His name was Kenny.

[Monet X Change]

How do you get closet that deep

[Bob the Drag Queen]

in New York City? His name was Kenny Bobby. He still texts me like, hey, you're. Hey, what's up? You're around. I'm like, bitch, this is like 12 years later. Like, what the fuck?

[Monet X Change]

You must have put it on him.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, I put that brown round.

[Monet X Change]

Throwing down that brown round. Throwing that brown round. All right, so anyway, so now all three of us live in Los Angeles, California. And this is Drag Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacobson.

[Monet X Change]

They're like, so whenever Peppermint comes to visit, all she does is talk about how much she does not like la.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, and what are her reasons?

[Monet X Change]

I think part of being a New Yorker.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

A part of your identity.

[Ezra Michelle]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Is. Well, let me talk about my. I know you want my experience As a New Yorker, you don't mind if I talk about my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, okay. So it used to take part of being a New Yorker for me.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, Monique. Oh, my God. You're ridiculous. I think a big part of being a New Yorker is your identity specifically tied to one, New Jersey and two, Los Angeles. A lot of New Yorkers have strong opinions about New Jersey and Los Angeles. Los Angeles.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you? Is that your perception of New Yorkers?

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, definitely. It seems like y' all New Jersey, but no, I don't know about that. But, like, I feel like with people who live in New York or are from New York, they often have feelings about LA people, but LA people are just like, oh, New York. Oh, that's a really cool city.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

True.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not true. LA people love being like, New York is just too congested. Like, everyone in New York just. They love that they can walk and get pizza. Like, girl, it's cold.

[Monet X Change]

That is okay. You're literally just talking about Kim. You're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're literally not talking about LA people. Just tonight. Just tonight. Godoy, Michael.

[Monet X Change]

We were all bleep these names.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were all having dinner and I think it. Maybe it was good you were with

[Monet X Change]

Kim and Kim's always bringing up New

[Bob the Drag Queen]

York with Kim, though.

[Monet X Change]

Kim's favorite pastime is trash in New York City. It's a very weird shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, Kim is not. Kim was doing that before she lived in la, when was she still in Chicago? So that's just a Kim thing.

[Monet X Change]

But I'm not blaming LA people. You're blaming LA people. I'm saying it's a Kim thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I think. I think LA people have that same feeling about.

[Ezra Michelle]

My experience is that they don't work. So, I mean, that's been a common thing.

[Monet X Change]

It does seem like New Yorkers have more opinions. In my experience, the New Yorkers have more opinions about LA than LA people have opinions about New York, for sure.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's very. It's very similar to the iPhone Android thing. People swear, yes. IPhone people say something about Android. Android people become. Ask the iPhone too. It's. I think it's very symbiotic in that way. I think it's also a coastal thing. It's just like a territorial thing. Are you like my.

[Monet X Change]

I like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just love in California, I can, like, drive to the beach and I can, like, have my car in New York. I could never do that.

[Ezra Michelle]

I feel like people from LA also acknowledge the bad things about la, whereas in New York they're like, yeah, there's like Rats and stuff. But it's, like, a beautiful city, and it's like, whatever. Like, I feel like they don't really.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'll say. All New Yorkers do is complain about New York City. No one knows then.

[Ezra Michelle]

You always end the sentence with but it's just amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, that's true.

[Monet X Change]

It is.

[Ezra Michelle]

Love it.

[Monet X Change]

Well, it is. It is a really great place. Like, it is a.

[Ezra Michelle]

Tell me again.

[Monet X Change]

It is a. I mean, tell me again.

[Ezra Michelle]

Tell me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all got yellow.

[Monet X Change]

The.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Y' all don't got no Broadway, anybody. Like, y' all got no art in la.

[Ezra Michelle]

Like, I'm not being like, oh, my gosh. But, like, LA is amazing. I'm like, yeah, you're right. We.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love la.

[Ezra Michelle]

We don't have it. We don't have Broadway. We don't have Broadway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know. Have you ever seen a musical?

[Monet X Change]

Monet? You don't even like Broadway that much. What do you think?

[Ezra Michelle]

I haven't seen a Broadway show.

[Monet X Change]

How many shows have you seen?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe seven, eight. How long you live in New York City? Doesn't mean I don't like Broadway, though, just because I don't see a lot of Broadway.

[Monet X Change]

I'm just asking questions.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm 31 years old, so I lived in. 30. 31 years I lived in New York. Well, 30.

[Monet X Change]

What about the two hard years you did in Portland, St. Lucia? You're lying about something. 20 years sitting across from you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am born and raised. I am born in Brooklyn, so I am a New Yorker, unlike you. You're a fake. New Yorkers, you move there from. From Missoula. Kalamazoo, Boobity boppity skibidy. Cat. Cat. Atlanta.

[Monet X Change]

I moved from Columbus, Georgia.

[Podcast Announcer]

Jacob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Tr. Good.

[Monet X Change]

Not. Not Missoula.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Missoula.

[Monet X Change]

Anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you never seen a Broadway show?

[Ezra Michelle]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Work. Have you ever seen a musical, though?

[Ezra Michelle]

I mean. Yeah. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What. What musical?

[Ezra Michelle]

Like, I've seen musicals, like, at high school, but never a professional.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no. Like a professional musical.

[Ezra Michelle]

I feel like I must have.

[Monet X Change]

I have to take you to see a musical.

[Ezra Michelle]

I mean, do I need to go?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would say seeing a musical, like seeing a fully staged musical. At least one in your life as

[Monet X Change]

an actor and a musician. You should see a musical.

[Ezra Michelle]

Let's go to Wicked. Because Alex Billings is

[Monet X Change]

Madam Marbles. Yes. She's the one who walks out and throws marbles. And then Elphable goes, whoa, whoa. And then she falls, and then that's the whole metal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Marbles. Throws the marbles. Meta Marbles.

[Monet X Change]

No. You should see. You certainly should. See a professional.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm interested. I'm sure it'll be cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say moving here from New York, what something that I that is taking the longest to adjust to is the pace. Like, people here just move really slow. Like I go to. I go to like Starbucks and shit. People are just moving. Like people are in front of line. Like just sitting there like, well, I didn't. I'm like, you. This cannot be your first time at Starbucks. You know what the. You want. Get your. And move.

[Monet X Change]

Well, I'm from Georgia, so this doesn't seem that slow to me. Like I've been in places that are. That are like, yeah, this is. I'm like, this is crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Crazy here in la, you mean?

[Monet X Change]

No, not in la, but like in Alabama.

[Ezra Michelle]

Portland's like that too, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Portland there so slow.

[Ezra Michelle]

Oh my gosh, like comically slow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's ridiculous. Like a sketch.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, absolutely. It's bizarre.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. People here move like that.

[Ezra Michelle]

To me, I feel like Portland's a little slower.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like some, some places they do.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm used to the pace here, but like, I just visited for the first time a couple weeks ago and I was like. I was like, oh my God, they're just so not in a rush. It's amazing. Like, there was a line behind me at a coffee shop and the. And the barista was like striking up a conversation with me and I was like, stressed because there was a line and they just seemed like totally relaxed.

[Monet X Change]

What does weird me out here is like People don't honk at you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I honk.

[Monet X Change]

If you're like stalling a ball, bitch, I honk. In la, you get a legit, like, five second grace period. No, before, someone's like, tap.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not with me on the road, bitch. Coming here today, this guy, I want to say the street, this guy was at the light and the light had turned green. It was like two seconds. I was like, like, come on, the light is green. What are you waiting for?

[Monet X Change]

Go. Well, he's probably looking at his phone or.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you shouldn't be looking at your phone and driving. So you should get. Turn the corner, park and look at your fucking phone. If you can't multitask and do both of them.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you know, multitasking is very illegal, particularly in the state of California.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If they catch you.

[Monet X Change]

That's not how illegality is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If they catch you. If they don't catch you, who knows? It's like if. If a tree falls in the woods, did it really fall? Yeah, it fell, but no one heard it or saw it. So maybe it just. Maybe it just came off the ground and it laid there. It's laying, it's not falling.

[Monet X Change]

There's a chance, but statistically speaking, that's probably. We all know that's probably not true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, who knows?

[Monet X Change]

But I'm gonna go. I'm gonna stick out on that limit. Say, probably not. I've seen a few musicals here in town. The production value, and it's not because I will say this, the cast were very talented, but, mama, the production value of a Broadway show. I need to take you to see it. We have to go see a Broadway show. Like, honestly, with the exception of maybe a Cirque du Soleil show, nothing compares to the production value of a Broadway show.

[Ezra Michelle]

I saw the Beatles Love show in Vegas and that was exciting.

[Monet X Change]

Is. I mean, there's. There's so much production in them.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, it was amazing. I cried like, several times. I was 15. I was 14. It's for my 14th.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You used to be obsessive Beatles.

[Ezra Michelle]

I was obsessed when I was.

[Monet X Change]

Story about when you tried to.

[Ezra Michelle]

Oh, my gosh. So I was on. I was on a cruise and I was probably like 15 years old. I had just come out as a lesbian, but I still liked guys. But I was, like, secretive about it because I was a lesbian and I saw. So the cruise ship had, like a Beatles impersonator band, whatever. And the Paul McCartney impersonator was, like, really handsome. And he looked exactly like Paul McCartney and he was my Favorite. And so one night I got dressed up and I went out by myself, and I found him at the bar, and I, like, 15. I was 15.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Work.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So we say you got dressed up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you mean?

[Monet X Change]

What do you mean, dressed? That. What were you wearing?

[Ezra Michelle]

Okay, I was dressed up as, like, a. Like a. I was wearing my sister's romper. It was a tube top romper that was, like, short, and it was black, and it had, like. It was, like, scrunchie up here and red lipstick, and I had, like.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not trying to. I'm trying to envision this because I know your sister's ample.

[Ezra Michelle]

She. Yeah, but it was tight on the bazoo, and my busty bazookas were really small.

[Monet X Change]

So, like, were you, like. Was it like, a saggy.

[Ezra Michelle]

No, no, no. It was tight. It was tight and it was like, y.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, it, like, forms to your body.

[Ezra Michelle]

Like, it was like a stretchy moment.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, one of them has, like, the ribs.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, it was scrunchy. Stretchy. I don't know how to explain it. Jersey material, red lipstick. And then I had a Justin Bieber swoopy haircut. But I, like, parted it and tried to, like, put a clip in it to, like, fem it up. This was me, like, it was like. I was like. I felt like I was acting kind of.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Ezra Michelle]

With the full intention of finding this man. I found him at the bar. He was alone, and I, like, slid up next to him and like, ordered, like, a Shirley Temple or something because.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because you can't get liquor on a boat.

[Ezra Michelle]

I was 15 years old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Surely.

[Monet X Change]

Sunny D, please.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Shirley Temples are so gross. That red cereal, it was so.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, well, I mean, it. Whatever. I was a kid. I was a kid, though.

[Monet X Change]

Drag.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jacob's dream choice. Oh, really? Like a Shirley Temple. Another. Not like Shirley Temple.

[Ezra Michelle]

I didn't mind it. I mean, I. I don't like that. All that sugar. But when I was 15, like, I. I like.

[Monet X Change]

And what are you trying to get

[Ezra Michelle]

with as a child? Yes, I liked sugar, and I was a child back then, and.

[Monet X Change]

And you got him on a. Wow.

[Ezra Michelle]

I was really.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been drinking beer since I was 12. Girls.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, same. I mean, yeah, I started. I started with beer real young.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right.

[Ezra Michelle]

Mexican.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Right?

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, but I. I was really smooth. I was surprisingly, very smooth. I was smooth talker. No, but he was flirting back with me. I don't think he knew how young I was. I think I was. I think I, like, tricked him. And we were flirting.

[Monet X Change]

We found out on the podcast that Monet was engaging in full sexual activities at a very young age. Younger than 14?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

15. 12.

[Ezra Michelle]

You were 12?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Someone, but someone my same age.

[Ezra Michelle]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Experimenting and doing.

[Ezra Michelle]

You know, that's nothing. I mean, I was 13 when I gave my first blow job. Right. I had braces.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no, that sounds dangerous. And braces and a blowjob and.

[Ezra Michelle]

And like a palate expander. So it's like the. The metal thing on the roof of

[Monet X Change]

your mouth and headgear, I think. And I think maybe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe it was. Maybe it felt good.

[Ezra Michelle]

Maybe it was like a fetish.

[Monet X Change]

No, I had braces, but they were

[Bob the Drag Queen]

trying to do a bit.

[Ezra Michelle]

Just saying braces on my feet or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bidding.

[Ezra Michelle]

Anyway, I don't know why he stuck his dick in my mouth, but. What?

[Monet X Change]

Paul McCartney?

[Ezra Michelle]

I wish. Oh, I wish. I still think about that.

[Monet X Change]

He's probably. He probably listens to our podcast.

[Ezra Michelle]

You think so?

[Monet X Change]

This is a very popular podcast, Izra.

[Ezra Michelle]

Excuse me.

[Monet X Change]

What? That's a very popular podcast for people who aren't.

[Ezra Michelle]

I love you guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, so. So back to the L. A thing. So you never lived in anywhere. Excited. Is there anywhere outside of Los Angeles you would want to live?

[Ezra Michelle]

Portland. I would live. My girlfriend lives in Portland. I just visited for the first time,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and I thought you were visiting your girlfriend. Yeah, got it. Yeah, got it.

[Ezra Michelle]

Okay. But. Okay. Also, I. So she found. So she was watching the boyfriend's video between you, me, and Jacob, and just to, like, just like, see how we interact because she's never hung out with the three of us yet. And you said. You said a joke. It was a bit. And you said. When I was talking about my other girlfriend at the time, you said, oh. And she's like, she's got chickens and she lives in Portland. You, like, started riffing about. About my. My, like, other partner and.

[Monet X Change]

Is your girl your current girlfriend?

[Ezra Michelle]

No, before I started dating her, like, this was. Well, before Jenny, who is your partner? It was Rose. But you were just like, chickens. No, you were just joking around. Because I was like, oh, yeah. She's like this. Some. Some. She lives somewhere else. And you're like, yeah, she lives on some compound in Portland.

[Monet X Change]

You were. You were dating Rose, was it?

[Ezra Michelle]

I wasn't dating Rose yet. Oh, I was dating Yari. No.

[Monet X Change]

Who had no chickens. No, no, actually, maybe she has. I don't know. Maybe.

[Ezra Michelle]

Okay, I remember what it was. I was. I was talking about my girlfriend before. And then you started riffing on it and saying. And she lived on account a compound in Portland.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And does she Live in Portland.

[Ezra Michelle]

Who?

[Monet X Change]

Rose?

[Ezra Michelle]

No, no, no. This was. This was someone else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So. So anyway, so your current girlfriend.

[Monet X Change]

What are you gagging at? Is that you were foreshadowing. I'm a soothsayer.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, got it.

[Ezra Michelle]

He was telling the future.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So is your current girlfriend upset about that?

[Ezra Michelle]

No, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

She gagged because.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it, got it, got it, got it.

[Ezra Michelle]

Because she was watching it and just being like, what the fuck? Like a compound in Portland.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Does she live on a compound in Portland?

[Ezra Michelle]

She lives on. She lives on a really big house with chickens and ducks on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's she doing for a living? She want to come sponsor?

[Ezra Michelle]

She's a hairdresser.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. And if you want to go to patreon.com podcast money. How is dating in LA?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Dating. LA is good.

[Ezra Michelle]

Specifically.

[Monet X Change]

And thank you for coming on TED Talking. Let's take a break. This is a podcast. Elaborate. It's good. What the Is wrong? What. What kind of answer is that? Great. This is like when I used to have my. Whenever my mom would talk to my. Whenever I would get my cousin the phone. He was very young, and they would ask him questions, and he would just go, you know that thing? He would shake his head. It would be like, junior, this is a phone call.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Junior, do you know that thing when black parents. When. Like, when you call black families. I don't know, maybe Mexican families, too, but you call and then they pass the phone around to everyone in the house.

[Monet X Change]

Absolutely.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Uncle Louie, Cousin Skeeter, Aunt Mabel, your nephew. I'm like, I don't. I have not seen these people in years, and I have nothing to say to them. Be like, yeah. Hey, Uncle Joseph. Hi.

[Monet X Change]

The worst is when someone gives a phone to a. Like, someone under the age of five. I'm not talking to someone three years old. If you're going and gooping and mapa gopping, what the are we gonna talk about?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is so annoying.

[Monet X Change]

It drives me crazy. Hey, Uncle. What? Give. And I'm. And I'm like, screaming, give my mom the phone. I hang up the phone, give my mom the phone. They're like, I'm like, give. I'm just, like, screaming.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I hang with the phone immediately. And then when they call me, I don't answer because I'm like, y' all did this. Y' all chose this for us.

[Monet X Change]

You drove me away.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wow.

[Ezra Michelle]

I, like. I asked to speak to my young cousins because I want to say what to them?

[Monet X Change]

How young?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What do you say? What is. What is the conversation?

[Ezra Michelle]

Check in with them.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was on about what, like four?

[Ezra Michelle]

How is four or five?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How was preschool?

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, they can, they can talk. I, I like to give children more dignity than that. I feel like they can, but I

[Bob the Drag Queen]

definitely feel if you have children, you should. I, I don't like when people baby talk to the kids.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, I don't do that now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You talk to them like regular people.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, they, they appreciate it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And there's a lot of research about the way you do that, that kids, they, they, they, they learn better.

[Monet X Change]

As a rule, I don't speak to kids. So they turn 18. That's the youngest kid. Wow. No, I, I do have a very hard. I, I don't, I will say this, I don't like talking to three year olds. If you're three or younger, we're not talking on the phone. I want to talk to you in person, but I'm not holding a phone conversation with a three year old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I cannot see you engaging with a child.

[Monet X Change]

It's not a hard rule, but it's just not fun.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, you just sound, you sounded like you were really claiming a hard rule there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I can't even see you engaging with children in real life. Like Bob. You just seem like the not child engagement. I'm sure he is, but I just cannot see Bob.

[Monet X Change]

He'll be like, like, I don't like kids like children.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like you're that gay uncle that picks them up and you're like, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

That's what I just say for you. I say, hey, hey, Nevaeh and say, well, Nivea, how are you today? I love your, your recent TikTok post. It looks really great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Nevaeh is, I'm talking about. How would you, how would you say.

[Monet X Change]

It wasn't born 11.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, okay. I'm sure she didn't have a TikTok at three. So how would you engage a three year old? Currently there's a three year old child. I have brought the three year old child here. I hand it off to you.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'll be the three year old.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, you're the three year old and I say, oh, hey, how are you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How are you?

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm three.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, okay. What's your name?

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, what's your name?

[Monet X Change]

Your name is Will. Okay, wait, your name. Let me talk to the kid.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you know, this baby, this is not a new baby.

[Monet X Change]

Your name's Will.

[Ezra Michelle]

Maybe. Do you want it to be.

[Monet X Change]

Oh my God. Where are your parents?

[Ezra Michelle]

I thought you were my daddy.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not your, I'm not your. I am certainly not your father.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, and yes and

[Ezra Michelle]

yes. And me daddy,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

the queen of. The queen of improv. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

And bitch, I'm doing the Monet Sage method. No, but. Okay, wait. We'll do a real scenario, all right? Who's. Who's gonna be the kid?

[Ezra Michelle]

But I don't want to. I don't want to be the kid because I'm just gonna make it sexual and.

[Monet X Change]

Do you want to be the kid?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, I'll be the kid.

[Monet X Change]

How do I know. How do I know this kid?

[Podcast Announcer]

You. You.

[Monet X Change]

You'll set the scene. How do I know this kid?

[Ezra Michelle]

All right, you know this kid? This kid is your. You're a real estate agent, and you sold a house to this kid's parents.

[Monet X Change]

Got it. And the parents in the bathroom. And now it's just me and the kids.

[Ezra Michelle]

It's just you and the kid in the living room.

[Monet X Change]

You're.

[Ezra Michelle]

You're still selling. You're still trying to sell.

[Monet X Change]

I haven't sold the house.

[Ezra Michelle]

You haven't sold the house?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How old am I?

[Ezra Michelle]

You're showing the house.

[Monet X Change]

Citizen couple. Ezra setting up the scene.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm the house plan.

[Monet X Change]

E doesn't want to do it because he's gonna be. He's gonna make it sexual.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm gonna make it too weird.

[Monet X Change]

So how. How old is. How old is this kid?

[Ezra Michelle]

This kid is three years old. You're. You're your worst age.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. All right. Oh, so your parents just went to the bathroom.

[Ezra Michelle]

Hi. Hi.

[Monet X Change]

How are you? I'm. You have a really interesting way of talking.

[Ezra Michelle]

Three year olds can say words. I'm just gonna say that.

[Monet X Change]

What are you asking for? Are you wanting, like, a hug or something? I have to sanitize my hands

[Ezra Michelle]

because of coronavirus.

[Monet X Change]

I can't hug you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm a cat child.

[Monet X Change]

Were you a cat? Wait, you're. I don't understand what's going on here. I'm just gonna. You know what? Why don't you hang out here for a second, because you.

[Ezra Michelle]

Now you hear. Now you hear sounds from the bathroom. The parents are fucking on the sink. Now you have to distract this child because this child is walking over to the door. What are you gonna do?

[Monet X Change]

Do you have someone you can call? Do you have someone you can call to come pick you up?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

No, no. Do you have, like, an uncle or an aunt? No. Grandparents? Dead. Everyone's dead. I'm so sorry to hear that. That sounds really tough stuff. I'm gonna go ask your parents to. They're doing. They're making a lot of noise in there. Is that common.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right.

[Monet X Change]

I'm gonna go find out why they're doing that. Hey, now you're the. Hey.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, hold on one second. I'm. I'm pooping.

[Monet X Change]

Oh. Oh, that's pooping in the same toilet. No, I understand. Well, as long as you're going one at a time, I just want you to know that your child is growing. Crying.

[Ezra Michelle]

I think he does that.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

All the time. He. He just can't stop. He doesn't stop crying.

[Monet X Change]

And I would like for you to maybe come comfort the child because he's. He really. He seems.

[Ezra Michelle]

One second.

[Monet X Change]

So I'm gonna. So your. Your mom is coming soon, so I can't hug you.

[Ezra Michelle]

You know, three year olds say words.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Too bad.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm just gonna say that they start talking before two.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not to start talking. Do people talk at three?

[Ezra Michelle]

Before two. They start talking really when they're one and something.

[Monet X Change]

You know, you're three, you're half the height you're going to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's why. No.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. A three year old is about to your hip, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, they are not.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. How tall? Google the height of an average three year old. A three year old is like three feet tall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No.

[Monet X Change]

Or two and a half feet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Three years. No, Bob, that's like five.

[Monet X Change]

No, five and five.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's like, that's pre K. Like pre K is like this tall.

[Monet X Change]

5 year olds are a lot tall, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I taught K through 5. Kindergarten is like this small at this.

[Monet X Change]

I'm telling you three. You're about. You're about half height. You're going to be.

[Ezra Michelle]

Oh, I'm so sorry. It just happens all the time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you listen? How would you know? Listen. How would you know?

[Podcast Announcer]

I just.

[Ezra Michelle]

I know that much. Oh well, because I'm. I'm the. You and our relationship. I. I say facts that aren't true and then he disputes them. And he's also always right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, maybe that's your situation. That's not. That's not my lived experience, you know.

[Monet X Change]

Well, it was the lived experience in this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was, it was.

[Monet X Change]

But so it is your lived experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Statistically speaking, though many. Dude, did I say the word right? Statistics.

[Monet X Change]

Statistically speaking, statistically speaking, most girls are about half. I'm going to be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if that's true.

[Monet X Change]

We just had statistical proof. Monet, you never talked about dating in la. I'm not going to accept that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Big dating in LA is fine. I'm currently dating someone and it's growing. Great.

[Ezra Michelle]

How long have you been dating?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I Don't talk about my relationship.

[Ezra Michelle]

Have you met their parents?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have not met their parents, though.

[Ezra Michelle]

Do you know the parents names?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

Are you done talking about this?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

Okay. What? I wanna. I wanna respect you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I appreciate you see, Ezra. We should have Ezra Moore on the podcast to mitigate that.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, I'm good with one episode for now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, damn. I'm not coming back. Jesus. No, but dating LA is great. I've dated a few people in la, but this one is great.

[Monet X Change]

So I have done some dating in la and.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you hate it or do you love it?

[Monet X Change]

So when I started dating in la, I wasn't living here and Ezra and I. I was like, visiting.

[Ezra Michelle]

Oh, you're talking about me.

[Monet X Change]

I dated. I've also dated other people in LA too. Not a lot, but like, when you

[Bob the Drag Queen]

guys making faces, all the workers are making all the faces. I'm sitting here like.

[Monet X Change]

I just want to point out that I didn't start coming to LA when I met.

[Ezra Michelle]

So you admit it.

[Monet X Change]

I do want to point out that I have been coming to LA before I met either one of you.

[Ezra Michelle]

So you admit it?

[Monet X Change]

I do admit. Well, that I have had a full existence.

[Ezra Michelle]

So you've been here and you didn't tell me you were here?

[Monet X Change]

You weren't even here at the time. You were in Santa Barbara when I first got here.

[Ezra Michelle]

So you admit it?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I do admit it. But my dating experience in LA has been really interesting. Not much different than dating in New York City, obviously. Me and Ezra lasted a lot longer than a lot of my other relationships. Is these California. The California guys, the guy that met in Cali really kind of stuck for whatever reason. And I think that I feel like. Do we have. Do you have like a typical LA dating experience?

[Ezra Michelle]

No, I don't think so. Well, we didn't really go on dates

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, we went on dates.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, in the beginning it was. Well, I thought when we first were gonna hang out, I thought we were actually gonna go, like go to dinner or something. And then you just. You sent me the address to your hotel room. And then I was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, wow, the queen of romance dinner.

[Monet X Change]

Because we couldn't be me.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, because we had talked. Because we had talked about. About potentially hanging out. I just didn't assume that we were gonna go straight to. To hotel rooms. I just didn't know the vibe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I. Well, I will say the gentleman that I'm currently dating, that's what I like most. He's very romantic.

[Ezra Michelle]

Oh, yeah, I see.

[Monet X Change]

I'm talking about your day.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm super sappy and I love romance.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm very.

[Monet X Change]

Please don't talk about dating.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You did not get to have that experience.

[Ezra Michelle]

Okay. I. I just. I really appreciate the way it happened, but, like, it was certainly not what I thought it was gonna be.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it. You know, you thought it was gonna be a romantic experience. He was like, oh, yeah, here is. Here is. Here's. Here's the address.

[Ezra Michelle]

Here's the address for the hotel. And then we. We talked about for like maybe 10, 15 minutes before we started hooking up.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not complicated.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is. Bob.

[Monet X Change]

I have. I'm.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm really stuck in this conversation. I can't believe Eris was trying to get romantic and you were just like.

[Monet X Change]

I was romantic.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We had a very romantic evening.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, we did. So then. So we. We were intimate, did the deed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Ezra Michelle]

But then. Then he suggested that we cuddle. And I wasn't expecting that at all because of the texting that we had had prior.

[Monet X Change]

I think Jacob came into the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're a little soft and squishy. Why?

[Monet X Change]

To cuddle.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think Jacob.

[Monet X Change]

This is like. I like to hook up right away. Like, get to it off the bat. I mean, I actually met them both downstairs.

[Ezra Michelle]

Downstairs where?

[Monet X Change]

In the hotel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At the same time?

[Monet X Change]

No. When I met Jacob, I had out of the elevator and I was like, come on over. You have to get really close to the mic, baby. You have to get like, in the mic.

[Ezra Michelle]

We also met at 3 in the

[Bob the Drag Queen]

morning and we had no previous correspondence, so I think we all knew what was happening.

[Monet X Change]

I wrote you a poem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, but no previous correspondence. Okay. The poem was like a haiku. Like, hey, your eyes are blue. I want to fuck you. Come take me, please. It was.

[Monet X Change]

That wasn't like a. Oh, so now you're. Now you're. Now you're a literary critique.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because you're acting like you work. You work. You're on a fucking Shakespearean.

[Monet X Change]

Fucking cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Ezra Michelle]

I think that's really cute.

[Monet X Change]

I wrote a poem for my partner that was strong enough.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Then you wrote a poem.

[Monet X Change]

It was strong enough to woo him to my hotel room.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Huh?

[Ezra Michelle]

You are very charming.

[Monet X Change]

And the dick pics. Okay, I'll send the pics.

[Ezra Michelle]

No, you don't send. You don't send pics. I have requested them and I don't get them.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm currently.

[Ezra Michelle]

It's really rare. Sometimes I'll get like an underwear picture and I'm like, oh, my God. Wow. She's feeling for risky, whereas I'VE made like full on videos.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

With production value.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

Like the lighting really wonderful.

[Monet X Change]

Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Why could you is at this point y' all are part girls. Why do you care?

[Monet X Change]

Okay. There's a lot of things involved in why I would not sense.

[Ezra Michelle]

I don't take it personal, by the way.

[Monet X Change]

It's not about me not trusting the person. Sometimes things get taken from you, from your phone without your permission. It's quite common. If Jennifer Lawrence buk hockey pictures can get leaks, I gotta film that. Ezra Michel's iPhone is not the Pentagon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm saying so I don't

[Ezra Michelle]

even have a lock on my phone. There's no passcode. So if it was stolen, like, I mean, it would be very easy to find my nudes, which I'm fine with my own nudes potentially leaking. I'm sure they're already on the Internet somewhere.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because you get an iPhone because you can send pictures and videos with, they delete. It's like a little like almost like Snapchat with iPhones.

[Ezra Michelle]

You gotta teach me that later.

[Monet X Change]

But I thought that we were. I thought we had a very romantic evening.

[Ezra Michelle]

No, we did. I just, I. I thought we were gonna go like, you know, go for a walk or something. But that is fine. That we didn't work.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

You know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How do you. How do you both currently find dating in la?

[Ezra Michelle]

I don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now that you have partners.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, so that's the thing. I don't really date in la. Like I keep finding these like long distance people and I prefer it that way because I. I think that like, because I'm so busy with like work and my relationship and friendships and stuff. Like, I find the. The idea of like dating somebody else like in person would be just a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say the past couple days in LA has been very overcast. I don't like it. Oh, like now I'm so used to the sunshine of the love. Like the past like three days has been really overcast in the mornings until

[Ezra Michelle]

like 1, 2, then I'm into it. I like a gray L. A Day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm excited for winter here in L. A. Yeah, very excited.

[Monet X Change]

I think the overcast is fleeting. This is, this will not be long.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It won't be at all. I think it's also probably something to do with the change in seasons. Now we're in fall and I'm sure in winter, like a lot of.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, coming from New York City, girl, overcast ain't shit. You will go weeks with barely seeing a ray of sunshine.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, wow.

[Monet X Change]

In New York City, for sure. It is like New York City. They really. It's kind of a gray city. It's not as great as London. London's like. There's like a greatness about London.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Portland is great. Seattle is great. New York is not anywhere close to those.

[Ezra Michelle]

The Bay is. The Bay Area is pretty gray.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is it?

[Ezra Michelle]

It's pretty overcast. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I will say, I love the way

[Monet X Change]

it's also literally foggy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're like, yeah, yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

It's kind of dreamy, though. I like it. I like an overcast day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Maybe I should move to San Francisco.

[Ezra Michelle]

But you said you don't like it overcast. You like the sunshine, but it's not.

[Monet X Change]

You are. You are experiencing what it's like to be on the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, every time I've been in San Francisco, it wasn't really that, like, foggy or missing. Like when we. When we did. I said Portland in Seattle, when we did the thing. Bring it on, Queen. We were there for like five days. It was nice weather, like, the entire time.

[Ezra Michelle]

Oh, wow.

[Monet X Change]

You know, there are sunny days.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I never spent more than. That was five days. And before that, I was there for like two days and then go fly away somewhere, you know, or a day.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, when I was living in the Bay Area.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Missoula. Missoula, Oklahoma, Alabama, when I was living in Berkeley.

[Monet X Change]

I think when you're in it, you're like, oh, it's not that. Like, it's not. It doesn't seem gray when you're in it. Like, for example, everyone talks about the smog in la. And I'm like, I don't see it. I don't see it. Like, maybe because I live here, and I'm like, I don't see any smog.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't see it either.

[Monet X Change]

Like, this is a very sunny place. I'm like, there's smog also. Living in New York City for 12 years, I'm like, bitch, this place is sunny as hell. Honestly, the sun is whooping my ass on a daily basis.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But even when visiting here and people say that, I would never see it. Only one time I remember flying into la, it was when I went to go film All Stars, actually. And I flying, I was like, oh, my God. Like, you could. You could see the smog from the city. Other than that, I've never seen it.

[Ezra Michelle]

If you go up high enough and you look over the city, there's like, there is that. You can see the smock.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But what's the difference between smog and Like a mist. Because that's what I remember.

[Monet X Change]

Smog is pollution.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, but. So I'm saying. But I.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, like, what does it look like? What's visibly the difference?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, because they look the same.

[Ezra Michelle]

I. I don't know.

[Monet X Change]

They don't think mist covers entire cities, but yeah. Also stays relatively low gray.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like a haze that's over, like, this city. I've seen that. I'm like, is that the smog people are talking about? Because it looks just like how it does when you look down from the. The mountains in Portland. Like that same thing. But Portland, maybe Portland, no, Portland.

[Ezra Michelle]

And also you can, like, smell the difference. I feel like when you go, people

[Bob the Drag Queen]

said about New York, people say, New York smells. I don't. Do you do. Do you smell?

[Monet X Change]

New York is a smelly town.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't smell.

[Monet X Change]

I mean, viciously smelly.

[Ezra Michelle]

I don't remember that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, pee. Like, you smell pee in the subway and. But like, when you're outside, people like, yeah, there's feces. When you. Outside.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, there's human feces. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like in the subways and shit, you smell people. Like when you're, like, standing outside in the street.

[Monet X Change]

Rats and pigeons and like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like when you're in Times Square or standing in our neighborhood, like, I don't. People like, oh, you smell that? I'm like, I don't smell it.

[Monet X Change]

Okay. I'm going to tell you why. That's what you're saying is wild. New York City is a very smelly town, mainly because they put the garbage on the street.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

So because the garbage is on the street, you're just walking down.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They put this garbage on the street here, too, in containers.

[Ezra Michelle]

But it's just in containment.

[Monet X Change]

In New York City, there's just, like, piles as high as an elephant's eye on the street, and you can just smell. Especially when you walk past the restaurants in Midtown and all their garbage, it's like it's oozing out of the bags and it's like the streets are crazy. So I would say New York City is one of the places where in one block you will smell 10 things and only one of them is good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. But like, for example, like, sometimes we would just. You would just be in a park with friends and people like, oh, the city just smells. I'm like, I don't get what you smell.

[Monet X Change]

I've never. I've never experienced that people saying it smells.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I've also.

[Monet X Change]

I'm also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you're walking by trash, you're One

[Monet X Change]

of those folks who's like. Who's like. It's one of those things that I say and it's a way to make fun of people who say it. And it is never not funny to me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What?

[Monet X Change]

I just gotta get out of the city. I just gotta get out of this. I had to get more. You hear more in New York City, people. Oh, my God. I just. I just had to get out.

[Ezra Michelle]

You don't relate to that at all.

[Monet X Change]

I really don't like getting out of the. Do you know how much time I spend getting out of the city? I'm always out of the city. Oh, well, that's being in the city. Like, when I finally get to be. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm in the city. This is great. But people were like, it's like my joke about go for a walk. Let's walk. Should we walk?

[Ezra Michelle]

Should we walk? We should walk.

[Monet X Change]

Let's just walk, get some air. Here's the people who like, like, you like going to go 10 blocks. Like, let's just walk it.

[Ezra Michelle]

You want to walk? It feels so good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like no one here in LA wants to walk.

[Ezra Michelle]

I walk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone wants to drive.

[Ezra Michelle]

I like walking. I mean, and I like getting out of the city because I don't travel as much as you do. So when I get to, like, get out, I'm like, I need that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Very judgmental about. You want to get out of city. I understand. It's a. I mean, live your life, girl. Get out the city.

[Ezra Michelle]

So handsome.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Get out the city.

[Monet X Change]

Are you telling us her to leave?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, get out of the city.

[Ezra Michelle]

I'm actually, I'm getting. Thank you. I will. I'm leaving November 7th to go to Portland again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Portlandia.

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Love Portland.

[Ezra Michelle]

Well, I really love it there.

[Monet X Change]

Thank you so much for joining us on our podcast today. Do you have. Do you have. You want to tell people where they can find you?

[Ezra Michelle]

Yeah, you can find me on Instagram at Ezra Michelle Music. You can find me on TikTok at the same handle. You can find me on Instagram.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Ezra Michelle]

At Ezra Michelle Music.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you know where to find his podcast?

[Ezra Michelle]

Sibling rivalry, podcast.commonet.

[Monet X Change]

where can they find you?

[Ezra Michelle]

Is that true?

[Monet X Change]

It is. It is. It is it really?

[Ezra Michelle]

Yes, I'm. Wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And if you want to support it,

[Monet X Change]

go to silverpodcast.com support and join our Patreon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

For sure. For sure.

[Monet X Change]

Where can we find you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can find me on Instagram, on Tik tok, on Twitter, on the vodka aisle. Oh, yes. Serve vodka make sure you get your serve. Vodka, green apple. It's delicious. I love it. Chilled or on the rocks. Would you try some if I gave you some?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, yes. Without hesitation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You heard it here first.

[Monet X Change]

That's right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bob is going to relapse on served. Vodka, green apple. Monex Sh.

[Monet X Change]

If you bring it, I will literally drink it. I'm letting you know if you bring

[Bob the Drag Queen]

it next podcast, I will literally. Perfect. Where can we find you?

[Monet X Change]

Well, probably in the gutter after you hear this vod. Losing everything. I've lost my home. But I can give you an honest review of your vod.

[Ezra Michelle]

It's great.

[Monet X Change]

All right, y'.

[Podcast Announcer]

All.

[Monet X Change]

We are.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you for joining us, Ezra.

[Ezra Michelle]

Thanks for having me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We'll see you soon. We show up. Okay. It.