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my name is Bob the Drag Queen.
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And I'm Monet X James.
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And this is sibling rivalry. Everyone. You have heard about this icon, icon many times on the podcast. This is my roommate, chef, vegan activist, animal rights activist, performer, and legitimately one of the funniest people I have ever met in my life. Ben Straussman, AKA Hunter, Bronx Monet. This is a mediation. But this money, this has been a argument for probably 15 years now.
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Has it been? I haven't brought it up in 10.
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I'd say, well, honey, honey knows better than anyone. Bob will argue with the sun for shining that day.
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So let's just say if the sun's arguing back, I never argue by myself.
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But I just interject that when I lived with Bob, I told him this. And granted, this is before Bob was world famous. So I think at this time, I still knew more people than him because I'm older. But I'm like, bob, I'm trying to explain something to you. You have a style of arguing that I've. Monet, girl, you have a style of arguing that I've never encountered before. And it doesn't matter what I say or how factual my response is when I tell people about Bob, I say this of him. I'm like, if Bob murdered my family in cold blood and I told him, I really don't like that you murdered my family, he would have a counterpoint that has me apologizing for bringing it up. And you know you would. And I also, if I have the opportunity. First of all, I do not appreciate how you Two started a podcast just so you could air my dirty laundry.
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Okay.
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And not pay me for it. But if you're going to actually bring me in on, I have to say there was a time when me and Caitlin and Coleman were all in a support group. Well, that's the joke. We were all standing around and like, wait, only the three of us? And now I suppose Jacob can back me up in this. We're like, only the three of us can ever understand what it was like living with Bob. And what I say when I tell people living with Bob is exactly what you'd imagine. It's like you're on Pee Wee's Playhouse. It was just the. The four best years of my life, Bob. But there is a certain thing that you have to learn to put up with. And honest to God, it's like, it's. He. He's worth putting up with that, you know, but. Oh, my God.
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Okay, wait.
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And I know Monet is not chiming in saying, but whatever are you talking about? What would you possibly mean?
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I mean, I. I practically.
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I practically live a Bob's.
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You never had of living with me anyway, so.
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Okay, wait. So before we get into the room. So, y'.
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All. How did y' all be.
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How did y' all become roommates? Like, how did y'. All. Did you answer an ad, or was
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it through the program? So it started with me, and then I let honey jump in. So Michelle was my roommate before.
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At 945 at Amsterdam.
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Yes, 9, 4, 5Amsterdam. So I. Michelle was rooming with this girl, and then this girl that she roomed with moved out. This apartment was dirt cheap. It was $1,100 on the. At 106 in Amsterdam. It was a fourth floo. Fourth floor walk up. It was technically two bedrooms. One of the bedrooms was very small.
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Like, Yalls apartment was comically small. It was a tiny apartment, though, y'.
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All.
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My bedroom was just big enough for a twin mattress and room to walk to it from the door.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, like, it touched all three. My bed touched three of the walls.
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That was correct.
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And then my bedroom didn't have a wall.
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And when I say there are no closets in the apartment, when I say there were no closets, I don't mean the closets were small. I mean, there wasn't such thing as a closet. Two drag queens, one apartment, zero closets
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in their living room.
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That's how they got all their drag. Y' all put all your drag in the living room, right?
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Well, eventually. Now, my bedroom had no door. So my bedroom was kind of like an extension of the living room, but there was like a doorway, kind of like a double wide doorway, but there was no actual door there.
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And that was also a bone of contention when I moved in.
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Yeah, which you were crazy and you admit.
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Listen, if we're going to litigate, we're going to. We need. If you want to, we need a whole people's court episode on this. But Monet, am I crazy? I asked Bob. I'm like, so would you like me to like, build you a door or a drape or something? He's like, no, why? And I'm like, you sleep in that room. He's like, huh? And I'm like, that room is entirely visible from the living room. Uh huh. What if I want to have a friend over one day? He's like, I don't care if people see me sleeping on my bed. I'm like, you're just not getting it.
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No.
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It's like in Gray Gardens when big Edie, her top is falling off. And little Edie is like, mom, your top is falling off. She's like, well, I don't have any warts on me. She's like, that's not the point, Mother darling.
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He made a point. No, Honey said so. Anyone who's ever lived with me knows this. I genuinely do not care what you do in any of the comments, but you can rearrange the entire. I'm telling you, I have practically no opinions about the comment. You can build a. For as long as it's not absolutely insane, you can do anything you want. So when. So when Honey Bronx moved in, Honey wanted to redo the entire home. And I said, go for it. I'll even pitch in. Honey went and did the bathroom, she did the kitchen, she built a bike rack. She had a lot of really great ideas. And then this bitch turned to my mother fucking bedroom and was like, here are my plans. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, baby. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Honey, you can do anything you want in the rest of the house. I don't care. You're not changing my room. I did end up putting up a curtain. I did. We ended up having a conversation. And I did end up being like, well, I can see now because at first it wasn't presented as I can see you. It was like, I have a problem with your room. And then I ended up putting. When I say curtain, I mean, we went to the fabric store, bought some blue, yellow. No, blue, white and black and white.
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Blue, black and white. You later made a Dress for me out of it. Like Maria Von Trapped. Yeah.
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I made a curtain. I made a curtain. Or maybe Honey made it. One of us made a curtain, and we hung it up in the living room. By the way, the edges weren't done. Raw edges.
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Oh, it was just like your dresses. Here's the thing about Bob. He would make a dress. I'm like, that's gorgeous. I'm impressed. Do you want to hem the edges? And what I love about Bob that's very different for me is Bob was like, we got 85%. We're good enough. Let's hit the stage. And I'm like, I'm gonna wait till I'm at 100%. Cause I don't wanna. I don't wanna go out on stage. It's not finished. The only area where he would not do that was the performance itself. We were gonna do a number once, a Christmas number, and he's like, I'm close enough. I am not ready to perform it today. I will have it 100% by tomorrow. So that I appreciate.
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Oh, and we had our matching Christmas dresses.
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Yes, we did.
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Yeah.
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They're very, very cute.
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I did not think I would feel re. Traumatized being effectively back in an argument about an arg. I am feeling myself making myself small. Like, I'm feeling my. My therapy is unraveling.
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Okay, wait.
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Okay, wait.
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So then y' all and I have three therapists.
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Like, honey LeBron thing I have ever heard. What is it? Did you fire one girl? I thought you.
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Well, no, I have a regular therapist, an ADHD therapist, and then a DBT therapist.
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Dbt?
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What?
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Dbt?
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Can I ask?
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Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. It's. It's. Look it up, Google it. It's fascinating. It's like the rule book that humankind never got for, like, dealing with everything that comes up anyway, to give you
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all the context for the kind of person Honey Bronx is. Honey Bronx is legitimately what I have never in my life spent more than. Unless we were, like, grieving. Strongly grieving. Something. I've never spent more than five minutes around Henry Bronx and not laughed very loudly. Like, he's legit. One of the fucking funniest and ballsy. This bitch has some mother.
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I agree with that nerve.
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Heidi lebron. This is what. When I used to hate this. Heidi LeBron is a fierce animal rights activist.
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Yes.
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We would go to the diner, and if you ordered a burger, Honeyland Bronx would play the sounds of cows mooing on her phone full blast while eating her vegan meal. And Just keep and not give a fuck, y'.
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All.
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Every single time, girl. Not every time, every time, but like. But like three times out of five. Often, often, often, often.
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Just on full blast and just eating
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her and be like, yeah. I mean.
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Monet. Monet.
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Yes.
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Why do you have a vegan talk show?
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I don't. I did. I don't anymore. Sure.
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You sure did.
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I did.
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Okay, but did you watch it? The premise was I am not vegan.
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I watched it.
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I tried to learn about veganism and not even vegan, about being plant based and if it was applicable to my life and hear people's experiences. I never said I was vegan. I was engaging in the discourse of vegan.
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Bob, can you do that thing where you argue with her and make her feel small?
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Oh, that's the premise of the podcast.
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Okay.
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By the way, I just want to say I do not appreciate. Like, listen, I want to be culturally sensitive here, and I'm going to demand the same. My people are colonizers. Okay. If I come to your apartment. Yes. I'm going to redo the kitchen in my room. Your room is partly mine. Now do you get that?
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That is crazy.
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Y'.
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All. This is y'. All. And to give you an idea of who the hunter Bronx is hunting, the Bronx is like, Bjork's biggest fan. Highlander. Bronx loves Bjork so much. This bitch learned Icelandic.
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Did you really?
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Can I tell you? I met her in 2016. I was doing the Reykjavik Pride drag show. She was at the show, but she left it intermission, so she did not get to see me outside of the theater after it's done and it's packed up. I see that when people say full drag. There's no such thing as full drag. There's drag, there's no half drag.
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There's no thank you.
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And this, like, person walking down the street towards me has, like, this Zorro mask on and like this black lace veil. And I'm like, do drag or don't. You're not one of us. Don't. Anyway, she comes up to me and she says, which means, excuse me, is it over? And I said, yaof Sininkarbon. Yes, the show is over. This woman continues speaking in Icelandic, and I recognized Bjork from her jawline, of all things. And I said, I just realized who I'm talking to. Oh, my God. I just need to say one thing, which means, you are the reason I speak Icelandic. She will never forget me.
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Now, wait. I don't want to sound culturally insensitive. Because I've never been Iceland. Are there a lot of Asian people in Iceland? She's not Asian. Bjork's not Asian?
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No, she's a white lady.
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Is that crazy white girl Bjork is not Asian?
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No.
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She just. Her eyes happen to be shaped that way. You've seen white people with eyes shaped that way. And she's got dark hair.
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Black people with eye shape that way.
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Someone, y' all in the chat. Please tell me I'm not the only person who thought Bjork was Asian.
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I, I don't.
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I think Bjork exists in this fuzzy gray zone where she's a white lady who can get away with stuff white ladies can't because she's Bjork.
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I, I, I also, I just so you know, honey, I am because of you. Is Bjorkwasian is the top search because of you. Whenever someone says her name, I go, it's pronounced Bjork.
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Everyone's like, oh, I noticed you were saying it right there.
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Thank you.
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On the O, Honey, her name is. You learned Icelandic just because you're a fan of an Icelandic.
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Well, she has this one, one off jazz album that was entirely in Icelandic. And like, I've been, I'm a fan of Edith Piaf. I've never thought I need to learn French.
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Now.
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Something about this language just struck me. And I remember asking myself, do I bother to learn the songs and translate them so I know what she's singing about, or do I just let it go and listen passively like, it's oper. And the next thought that I had was, ben, four year olds know what she's singing about. That was the thought that popped into my head. Now, granted, Icelandic four year olds. But I figured I'm like, I guess we're learning icelandic. That was 2002, and there were no resources for learning it, so it was very. Anyway. Yeah.
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How long did it take you to learn it?
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Oh, I mean, I'm still learning. I mean, what bothers me is I go to Iceland and there's these little, you know, teenage motherfuckers. I'm like, I've been speaking Icelandic since before you were born. But granted, you speak it better than me, so. But I would say by, I would say it probably took me like about a year or two to sort of like. I mean, if you dropped me off there and I lived there for six months, I would be able to, like, keep up. It's just, you guys might know this. When you study language, how you learn a language and how you Hear it in your head compared to how the people actually speak it. You know, like, and like, just quickly, it's, it's really hard. I tell people, I'm like yagitanadislands kabetr and you get still yida easily. I can speak it a lot better than I can understand it. And I have this problem with learning languages where I can pronounce things so well. People who speak Spanish will like give me a double tick and like, they don't, like, they think I'm as Hispanic and I'm like, I don't understand it that well. I just speak it well. And I. And I can pronounce it well enough that you would think I'm local.
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That's because you're an opera fan and that's opera fans are normally not fans, but people who studied opera, they are good addiction.
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I'm on that with you.
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I was good at this.
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I was good at this. Before opera, it started in Spanish class. It started because my teacher was so over at teaching Spanish in seventh grade. And before her I had Hola, yo me llamo senora Urban. I'm like, exactly. And she's no accent. And then it was Senora Bravo Brenda de Capper or Brenda Bravo de Capper. And she'd be like, hola, clase esto no eso. And I'm like, I love what you're doing and I recognize that it's also part of the language. So I just, I figured if I'm gonna learn the language, I'm gonna to say it the way they're saying it.
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I'm. I'm very. Because normally people always say I can understand it better than I can speak it. I've never been able to understand Spanish. I can speak it much better than I can understand it anyway.
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I think that's pretty common. And how long, how long did it take you to learn Ebonics, Ben?
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I don't think I've ever heard.
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Bob. We lived together for four years.
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I don't think I've ever heard.
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I would say I still do not understand.
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To get serious for a moment is. In the four years of living with Bob, I did learn a whole lot about myself and a whole lot about racism. And I made this apology to Bob over the phone a while back. But I will say it again when I look back at living with Bob, I think of so many, and I hope you don't remember all of them. I think of so many things I've said I did that I now realize are profoundly racist. And I remember him correcting me at times, but I'm like, you must have had to. For every time you made a correction, there must have been 20 that you let go and just, just figured like, I'm just, it's not, it's not worth it. I'm gonna let it go. And the fact that you even saw me as worth taking the time to teach me, I am very humbled by and very grateful. Want you to know that that didn't, that didn't fall. That fell on fertile soil. Like, I've taken that and I've been working with that. I just got back, I did my first drag performance in four years. I just have not. I've had hip surgery.
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I wasn't ready.
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Wait, what hip surgery?
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I told, I, I told you this. When did you tell. Read your texts. Read your texts. Yes, in 2023 I had hip surgery. I have to have another one in September.
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Oh my God.
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Texts.
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You gotta read your text.
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You know my phone call girl.
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No. Okay. I, I, I, I hang show up in Springfield, Vermont and it was a 45 minute set and I basically did a show. I just started with a number that was up just the fabulous baby from, from Sister act. And and then I basically talked about like, hey, that was pretty fierce what I did. Right. Wouldn't have been too fierce when I was five doing that in the living room. Went on to a talk about sex and gender and my habit, my practice of putting myself in other people's shoes and imagining what must the trans experience be like. Right. And it was a long talk. I'm not gonna re give it here, but I talk about how I came to understand things. So then I went into a song about let's make over the rainbow to the tune of over the Rainbow. Let's make over the rainbow with black and brown, with white, green and pink. And then I went into, oh, let's slip into something more uncomfortable. Let's talk about racism now. And I talked about a lot of the things that learned about racism and what white privilege looks like, etc, and then I did my white privilege song and then I went into animal rights and then I brought it home with my tofu song. But like, what I mean to say by all of that is like, I have like all of those lessons were enough to get me started so that I can now start teaching myself. And a lot of it is just like, oh, if you sit down and bother to think about it, you'll figure it out. And it's just stuff that I've never thought about that way. And, and yeah, I have a lot of apologizing to do because I.
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Okay, me next.
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Apologize to me anyway. Well, honey, you're great with accountability in my opinion. And I always, and I'm very grateful that you and I did spend the time that we spent together. You're one of my favorite people on the entire planet, easily. And he's not just saying that.
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He does say that often. I feel like anytime you come on
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a podcast, I thought you were going to say one of my favorite people on this episode.
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Well, I mean, that'll probably be true. I love everyone in this episode. These three people here with me right now are just some of my favorite people on the planet, that is.
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Hi, Jacob.
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Okay, wait, about the broom.
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Okay, about the broom.
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You move into the apartment, and you bring your favorite broom that's been handed
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down to you from Generation Don't Ask Monet. Jacob, either you're gonna do it normal or Jacob's gonna do it.
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Okay, I don't.
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Don't do the bullshit.
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Okay. You move into the apartment with this broom, and Bob also has a broom. And y' all put the broom. They occupy the same space in the apartment.
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Behind the trash can.
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Behind the trash can. So then.
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So then, from my experience, what happened was I'm letting Honey have free reign of the home. Honey is navigating the home. I'm also. I'm also helping when I can. Honey is much more skilled at homemaking and building. Honey is a great craft. It is true. Like, Honey built that. You know that desk I used to use down in my basement? Honey built that desk.
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Oh, really?
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That was a. That was made out of MDF particle board. It was wobbly. I did not know what I was doing back then. I have built a cabinet that sold for over a thousand bucks to a client. It's very gorgeous, but, like, it.
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It made the move. It made it all the way to the height. So anyway, Honey's doing stuff. I'm helping out where I can. I'm not. And then Honey makes her way to the kitchen. Honey's hanging a bike rack. Honey's moving things. This works better, I think. I think Honey might have been studying feng shui at the time. I can't remember. Maybe I made that up. Maybe I was setting feng shui, studying. And then Honey turns her fucking head to the trash can, and she spots a. Like a mop. Like a Swiffer mop. And then a broom and then another broom. Honey comes to me and is like, we have to. I think we should get rid of one of these brooms. We don't need two brooms. And then I was like, okay, you gonna get rid of your broom? And Honey was like, no, I think we should get rid of your broom. And I was saying, I don't think these brooms are taking up that much space. They're behind the track. You know when you put your trash. The trash can was a circle. It was a metal trash can, and there was a little. A little triangle with a rounded edge on it. And all of the floor, mopping, sweeping stuff fit firmly behind it. All three of them. One mop, two brooms.
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It looks like the kind of trash can you Would see out on this, like, Oscar the Grouch trash can.
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I remember.
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I loved it, but it's not something you see in a home. I love this.
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It was literally.
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I love that we're talking about the broom and not the fucking cotton.
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Well, I got rid of the cot. I got rid of the cot, so.
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You sure did, eventually.
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So. The what?
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While I lived there, there were mice in the cot. Okay, wait, mice in the kitchen? And by the way, when I told Bob one day, I'm like, hey, we have. First of all, there was a. I heard. You know how when you hear a noise, but it's. It's. It doesn't happen often enough that you can't tell where it's coming from? I heard this noise. I finally realized there was a paper grocery bag, like a Whole Foods bag on the kitchen floor, and there was a mouse inside of it, jumping, trying to get out. Bob happened to be outside. And as I'm leaving the apartment, I see Bob. I'm like, oh, there's a mouse in the kitchen. He's like, yeah, I know. And I'm like, what do you mean, yeah? You know, he's like. And I said, I'm like, we have to do certain things. We have to patch up the holes in the kitchen. He's like, well. And then he was just like, they're mice. They'll eventually go away. By the way, we once had bedbugs. I didn't know that I saw a bed. Now, I had bedbugs before I lived with Bob. So I've been. It is trauma. I found a bedbug in my room. I quickly grabbed it, threw it in a Ziploc bag, and I'm like, okay, this is okay. And then, like, a week later, I found one more, grabbed it, threw it in the Ziploc bag with his brother. And I go to Bob, and I'm like, bob, we've got bedbugs. It doesn't seem like a big problem right now, But I found two. If we have two, we have 200. That is how this works up and down this road. We need to hire an exterminator. It is going to cost, like, $3,000. I mean, because. Because what they can do is they can, like, heat treat or, like, freeze spray the apartment, like, and the electronics, everything, and it will kill them. Bob said, I'm not spending 3,000. I'm like, you don't understand. If we don't spend $3,000, we're gonna have to replace everything that we own. And Bob's like, They'll just go away. And I'm like, you don't understand. That's not how bedbugs work. Kevin, guess what happened?
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What?
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They went away. They went away. Did they really? Because there were only the two bedbugs that I found. There were never any more. And how. Yeah, they just.
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How did I feel in that?
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They just went away.
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I don't know if bedbugs go away like that.
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They don't. But what I hate about that is Bob got to be right about something you're not supposed to be right about. Girl, that would be like saying like, oh, I got syphilis. Oh, don't worry. It'll go away.
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No, you.
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I think you need to intervene. But guess what? It went away because Bob said it would.
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And let me tell you something.
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That is. That is fucking a silver bullet in Bob's gun. Give him that. I am right, girl.
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At the time, I was like, I just don't have 3,000. Like, I remember being like, I literally do not have the money to address this problem. All I have is just be like, well, I hope it works out. And honestly, it did. Now back to the thing. So I eventually threw out the cot because something I learned, by the way, you should be thanking Honey lebrunks for the work she did in our friendship. Before I got to you, I learned. I learned to say you're right about something. When you're right, you're right. Is something I started saying when I.
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When we were.
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When we were roommates. When you're right, you're right. And I remember the. The really big one was the cot. The cop was like, I want to keep the cot. I want to keep the cot. The cot was big. It was taking up space. It was getting splashed on. It was by the sink. It was just. It was then. And then the mice infested the cot. The mice. I remember one day, Ben opened the cot, and they were like, mouse droppings in the cot. I was like, okay, girl, get rid of the cot. Let's throw the cot away. And I was like, when you're right, you're right. You were right about that. Because Ben would often say to me, well, you're right. When you're right, you're right. So you were right. And I'd be like, hey. So I learned that from Ben, and it was about the bedbug thing. Now, when it came down to the brooms. When it came down to the brooms, Ben was like, we should get rid of one of these brooms. It should be your broom. I was advocating, if you want to get rid of a broom, it should be your broom. You're the one who has a problem with the broom. And also, one of my main points was, while I love you very much and I want to live with you for a long time, because we have literally just started our friendship, and I think honey is actually the longest roommate I had in New York City out of all of them, actually. Um, I mean, the other ones weren't roommates. They were fucking couch suffers. The other ones were girl squatters.
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Like, we could do a book or a sitcom about the squatters we've had.
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Yes. And then. And I kept saying, well, Ben, one day we won't be living together, and I don't want to go buy a broom. I already have a broom. Now when we part ways, you won't have to go broom shopping because you will have a broom. I was like, now if when we part ways, you're willing to give me your broom and then you go buy a broom, that is the most Bob
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shit I've ever heard.
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Otherwise, I'm not throwing my broom away.
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No, that is so Bob logic.
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That is Bob Honestly. That is fair. I was like, if you're willing to give me your broom when we part ways or throw your broom away, we can get rid of the broom issue.
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The broom issue. My argument was. Mine was a better broom.
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That's what I said earlier. I said, bob, where these brooms created evil? And I said, I don't think it is a better broom.
B
It was a better broom. It was structurally better. It was newer. I forget why, but it was a less broken, less busted.
D
That's what I thought.
B
Better broom that did a better job of sweeping.
A
If I recall correctly, my broom was green with yellow bristles, and Ben's broom was blue with a white plastic part and blue bristles, if I recall correctly. Now, in Ben's. Is that. Does that sound right to you, whether
B
you recall things correctly? I'm not the arbiter of that, but.
A
But I do. What I do remember specifically is that my broom, the pole was aluminum. It was not a wooden pole. And there was a. A. Not a bend, a dent. There was a dent in my broom, which, if neglected over time, could become a bend. And at some point. But I will say with y' all this right now, that broom made it all the way to Washington Heights. I think there's a small chance that broom might have made it to Los Angeles, California. There is a very real chance that broom has been with me, because that broom Became such a. I felt like fucking alpha. That broom became such a thing. I was like, I'm not letting. I fought for this broom.
B
Kevin, do we have a stenographer or anyone take recording the minutes of this? I want for the record to point out I conceded this whole thing.
A
This is true.
B
I conceded. I said, okay, I see your point. We'll keep the broom somehow. I'm on a podcast 10 years later litigating this again. So really, who is the one here? Which one of us is crazy?
A
Well, I don't know how the broom came up. I think I bought the brew. Something happened at the end of the podcast. We're talking. I don't know what we're talking about. I don't even know what the hell we're talking about.
D
I forgot either. I forgot to end up coming up.
B
Well, then I'll take that opportunity as well to mention when we had mice, I was like, girl, we're going to need a vacuum cleaner because we have mice. We have mice dropping. You have to sweep them. You have to back and like just there was glitter. We needed a vacuum more than anyone's ever needed vacuum. And he's like, I don't want to buy a vacuum. I'm like, we need a vacuum. He's like, go buy a vacuum. I'm like, will you just be a roommate with me and meet me 50 50? And then he's like, I don't see anything you can do with a vacuum that you can't do with a rag and soapy water. I'm like, I don't see you doing anything with a rag and soapy water. It's the problem. Anything. I mean, I would sweep anything.
A
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B
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And breathe. Oh, sorry.
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I almost couldn't breathe when I saw
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Oh, sorry. Namaste.
D
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Can I also say one day? One day. One day. I was at the Duane Reade. That's Walgreens for the rest of you. And I got some dish soap. Cause we had run out. It was $3. You will remember this, Bob. And this is the day I learned a valuable lesson. Do you want to say something before I go in?
A
No, no, no, go ahead. I have another story.
B
I came home and I'm like, hey, I got dish soap. You owe me a dollar fifty. And he said, and this is one of those arguments I can remember verbain. He said, no, I don't. And I'm like, but you do. We ran out of dish soap. I got more. You're welcome. I got more. This is before Amazon. This is back when you had to make a pill, a field drip, to go and get the thing. And I was like, we were out of soap. So we now have soap again. Because I got it with my $3. I'd imagine you're going to use this soap. And he's like, I Don't know. And he's like, if money. And you were right. He's like, if money is going to leave my pocket, I should have a say in the matter. And I kind of wanted to be like, you had a say in the matter when you used the dish soap. So. And then, I don't know. I could go into so many arguments, but eventually we overcame it.
A
I think what I probably did in that case was either I probably went and bought a separate thing of dish soap, or I eventually agreed to give the money. But I was like, but I was saying, when you were roommates, before you buy something for the house, even if it's small, you need to be like, I'm buying this. Are you in?
B
Right? And when I called you and then texted you from the Duane Reade and you didn't answer, I asked you later, when you don't answer, what should I do? Are you really expecting that I wait until the next time I see you? And he's like, yes. And I'm like, I'm here. We need dish.
D
So, Monet, I will say, though, I will say I've had roommates, too, but a little charge is like $1.50. I will not have charged someone for it. But I understand why you did.
B
I was trying to set a precedent because I was kind of noticing this thing happened. And by the way, one day Bob asked if he could use my printer. And I'm like, will you reimburse me for the ink? And he got so up in arms about that. And I'm like, well, bitch, I am just trying to draw the same line you're drawing.
A
Where does that. Well, it's because as drag sisters, I would give Honey, like, fabric and glitter and stuff. And I was like, I'm not asking you to reimburse me for the hairspray that we use for the thing now. I would tell you the broom was not our biggest argument. The biggest argument that we ever had in that apartment, easily, hands down. And wait, where are your hands? Okay, so what happened was, I think a lot of these things were. I just didn't have as much money as Honey LeBron's had at the time. I just didn't. Not only was I. Not only did I grow up poor, I was living like, there wasn't. It wasn't even because I was a waiter. It wasn't even paycheck to paycheck. It was shift to shift. I just did not have enough money to cover anything. So when. When the conversation about vacuum cleaning comes, I'm like, Girl, I literally can't afford it. I would rather get that on my hands than easy clean than go buy a fucking vacuum. I just can't afford one. But maybe my pride at the time wouldn't allow me to say, I can't afford it. It was just, I don't wanna pay for that. Cause I can't afford to do it.
D
Right?
A
So. So our biggest argument, and this is something I still do to this day, and I can see why. I don't know who you're texting. Monet, but it looks shady.
D
I'm not texting anyone.
A
You're texting one of these two.
D
No, I'm not. I'm really not. I'm really not.
A
So one day, the.
B
We.
A
I think me and Honey used to share, like, a shower.
B
Is this the soap?
A
Yes.
B
Is this about the soap?
A
We would share.
B
Is this about the soap? Cause you were talking about dish soap, and I'm like, bitch, don't you start talking to me about soap.
A
We would share shower gel. We would have, like, one shower gel. We'd use the same shower gel, and we. I remember the shower gel running out when I went to go use it. And I was like, but I'm already wet. I can't go get more shower gel. So I just reached over to the sink, grabbed the hand soap, pulled it into the shower, and used it. And then I left it in. I left it in the shower. I didn't put it back. I left it in the shower. And then I come back, and then Hunley Brooks moves it back to the sink. And then Squirt Squirt uses it. And then I come back the next day. Neither of us had purchased shower gel, but this one. We had already had a system of buying things for the home. I was like, oh, shit, I'm wet. I'm in the shower. Because I was like, you know, for me, I. When I'm getting ready, I like, if I have to be. If I leave the house in 30 minutes, I'm like, it's all happening in a. It's all happening in the same. I'm usually on time for stuff. It happens right then and there. I don't shower in luxurious. I shower, put on my shoes, and I go. So I'm like, I'm showering. I don't have time. I grab the shower, the hand soap, squish, squish. This goes on for maybe like two or three times. Then eventually, if I. And I might get this a little mixed up, eventually, at some point, I go to grab something that we do not share. Something that we. Something in the kitchen. Like either my 2 in the. In the bath, either my toothpaste or a. Something that we do not share. And it was not there. Whatever the thing was, it wasn't there. Honey. LeBrunks had moved it from the medicine cabinet to this shelf above the toilet. But I did not know it was there.
B
All I did, I made a shelf. I made a shelf above the doorway. So when you enter, there's a little extra storage. I can correct you a little bit. It wasn't that you went to the kitchen for something. We shared. The problem here, Monet, because I hope you're the one keeping score. And. And I really would love to have a private conversation with Jacob about all of this afterwards. To be like, I need to know that I feel seen. I need to know that I feel seen. Listen, speaking of Jacob, when I lived with Bob, I remember telling him, like, bob, I am living with you. And so that's sort of a partnership of sorts, right? One day you're gonna find someone and fall in love with them. And a lot of these things that are happening here with me is just a roommate, right? Those are gonna be problems. And I'm hoping that you can learn from these so that one day you'll be able to be, like, a better boyfriend. I don't know that any of those lessons got through Jacob. If they did, you're welcome. But here's the thing about the soap. After Bob would take the hand. There was the shower soap and the hand soap. Bob would take the hand soap from the thing and use it and then leave it on the shower ledge in the windowsill. But he would not then put it back. So now every time I go to the bathroom and I wanna wash my hands, there's no soap. And I need to go and hunt for something.
A
So.
B
And so, finally. Finally, before I moved. Before I moved the thing. Before I moved the thing, I remembered thinking, you know what? Because I was like, can I? Can I. Can I. Can I let this go? And so what? And I would take it. I would move it back. I would take it. I would move it back passive aggressively. I was like, do you notice that I keep moving it back? And then one day, I just decided, oh, you know what?
C
What?
B
I'm just going to get a second one. It was a little hand sill pump dispenser, right? I got one for the windowsill. I got one for the windowsill, and I got one for the sink. And I was like, look at me. Problem Solved, and peace was restored to Hyrule. And guess what? The next day, I go to get hand soap. There's no hand soap. There's two hand soap dispensers on the window, silly. In the shower. And that is when I took Bob's. I took both of the hand soaps, and I hid them up on top. And then Bob was. The next day, Bob was like, where's the hand soap? And I'm like. And I walk quietly into the bathroom as if to indicate. Follow me. And I take it from up top. And I put them both where they go. And then the next day. What was it, Bob? There was something of mine I was looking for.
A
So what happened was. This is what happened, but also, why
D
did you buy two hand soaps? Why did you. Why don't y' all just. Why don't y' all just buy a new shower gel?
A
Well, no, I can't remember. It doesn't matter.
B
But they were the same liquid. Basically, they were both dish soap.
D
Basically, y' all using dish soap in the shower.
A
No, it was makeup. It was. It was. I don't know. It doesn't matter. It was soap.
B
That doesn't matter at this point. Go on.
A
So I will say what we. I. I did not realize that this was an issue because I was just moving soap. I didn't know Honey lebron was having this. This whole ordeal. I was just. Just moving the soap I had. Then I just saw a second soap, and I grabbed it. So then Honey snapped when she saw both the soaps in the shower.
D
Pissed me off, too.
B
It wasn't an ordeal. It was that I mentioned why it was a problem, and you couldn't hear. I mentioned, like, hey, when I go for the hand soap, it's never there, and I have to get it from there. And you're like, well, why can't you just put it back? I'm like, bitch, why can't you put it back? Because the one that moved it.
A
You missed the thing where Hunter Brock said, and I'll never forget this. This. She was like, it made me late for work or late for something because I couldn't, by the way, the soap. Y', all, when I tell you this bathroom, this apart, you could touch every. If you did this, every wall in that.
D
It was also the bathroom that they had to have a umbrella in the shower.
B
You couldn't even do that in the bathroom. We had an umbrella in the shower because it made it.
D
And they used to like themselves in the. In the.
B
It was over the toilet. Yeah. The sh. There was an umbrella over the. The ceiling leaked. And if you're sitting on the toilet. Well, right, but the whole ceiling leaked. So if you are sitting on the bathroom on the toilet, and they flush upstairs. Not every time. Not every flush. But sometimes it'll start gushing water down on you. And I don't know what kind of water that is, but I don't want it. I didn't ask for it. So what we did is just wedge an umbrella over the toilet so when it happens, it's kind of raining around you. And here's the thing. We got so used to it, we didn't notice it. And people are like, why is there an umbrella over the toilet? And I thought it kind of adds, like, a little tiki lounge kind of vibe. And so I kind of liked it. And when we got rid of it, I was like, this bathroom is missing something. I think we need a jacket here.
A
You know, I forgot about that.
D
Also, also, if you.
B
But also, that water went through the boob light in the ceiling, and that somehow touched the. The curtain rod. So the curtain rod. Because the curtain rod was hooked up to the ceiling as well. So if you were in the shower and the lights were on and you touched the shower curtain rod or the shower curtain things, you would get electrocuted. Bob and I were very used to that.
D
Yeah.
A
And one time I come to your
D
fucking apartment to shower in there, and I literally got electrocuted in your fucking bathroom.
B
Yeah. And we were basically like, you get used to it. And people. Alan. Alan came to live with us rent free when he had nowhere to go.
D
Who's Alan?
B
And he was, like, screaming at us. He's like, you can't. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And we're like, yeah, it's.
D
It's.
B
It's a problem. We've learned to live with it. We can't get it fixed. He's like, well, you have to. I couldn't believe. I was like, bitch, your rent is $0.
D
Literally.
B
I don't get a say.
A
I would say. Now, there were times where me and Ben would. We would team up on someone. We were like, don't come for our fucking apartment, bitch. Yeah, it's raggedy. Yes, we have mock. Yes, we get electrocuted. Yes. When you. It rains on your head. When you walk into the bathroom and you step on the tiles, the tiles would come off the ground, hit the tiles, break, split.
B
They weren't floor tiles. They were wall tiles, which are not designed to be walked on. They're just decorative. And when I told them, hey, guys, the floor tiles are. Because the tile. They weren't. Even though they were wall tiles, they weren't set with grout. They weren't set with any kind of adhesive. So they were just loose tiles just laid down on the floor. And when I told them, guys, the towels are. The tiles are breaking. We need them replaced, they just came in and laid down new tiles. And I'm like, no, no, you need to grout them. I don't even know how to grout something, but I'm like, you got to grout. And then they came and they grouted them. But the problem is they're still wall tiles, so they still break when you step on. Well, oh, my God. The things that we put up at 945Amsterdam. The things that we put up with.
D
Well, I guess. I think. I think I would like to know. So can we. Can we call this broom incident? Bob, do you agree to let it go and not speak about it and bring it up again to. To really get the pass? Can you move on from this broom event?
A
Well, to be fair, when I brought it up, it wasn't because I was. I brought it up because it's a. It's. I enjoy reminiscing about these things. Obviously, me and Honey have literally no beef. Honey's. I love Honey LeBrunk so much. So for me, it was more like.
D
Like.
A
Like when I talk about the shower or I mean, also shout out rip to Mike the super. Was Mike a good super? Probably not. Was Mike a lovely guy?
B
Lovely guy. Lovely guy. As I like to say, our super isn't.
A
Yeah, yeah, He. He lived in the base. In the. In the. Not the basement. The first floor apartment. Under. Under the stairs. Lovely guy. But our. Yeah, our apartment.
B
Well, that's the other thing. Because he could not do. I think at his age and just his physical condition, he couldn't do any of the things. So he literally hired the neighborhood drunk slash crackhead, who would be drunk or high or both when he came over to do these things. So even after he came to fix them, we would then still always need someone to come and fix them. And this is why I became a handyman. Cause I'm like, you know, who's probably gonna do a better job as me?
A
Were you there for the British lady who would. Who lived. Who lived. Lived upstairs?
B
No, she lived on our floor at the end of the hallway. Julia Beltsieu lived upstairs from us. And I one day tracked her down and found her because I got a Piece of mail of hers. And we had a lovely conversation. Oh, and she told me some tea about the people that used to live up there. It's crazy. I forget it now, but yeah, there was this British lady at the end of the hallway. Remember that young gay twink that moved in with her? And we were trying to be like, if you're okay with it, I'm okay with it. I'm not gonna say anything. It's like, someone today told me they went to amda. I'm like, okay, you went to amda? People go to amda. That's the thing.
A
We were like, giving off run girl run vibes. But if you. Cause one time her and her husband got into this huge fight and she came outside and she was like. And then he was like, she's trying to. She tried to kill me. And I, I can't. There was either he had blood on him or something. Like, she, she physically assaulted him and he was like, bloody. And then they got into this huge fight and then he just went away. And we used to joke that she killed him.
D
We don't know that.
A
But, but one, like one day, like, like one day, her husband. We never saw this man again. Ever saw this man again.
D
Work. Yeah.
B
By the way, I'm gonna take this opportunity to give myself a shout out. If anyone is in New York City and needs a gay handyman, look at handy homo nyc on Instagram or handyhomonyc.com
D
oh, do you, you do a lot of handiwork. I didn't know you do that.
B
I am doing handyman work now. I just, during the pandemic, I didn't like, I, I, I took a pandemic job so I could just work remotely. Here's my thing. I don't feel ready to do shows in bars where the audience are people who are going to shows in bars. That math is exponential compared to, I'm working one on one. I live remotely. Even the show I did in Vermont, it was a one off. It was a small audience. The idea, like, I've been really reluctant to get back out there and start doing it again. And prior to the pandemic, what I was doing was touring full time for two years. And when I was touring, I would go anywhere in the United States. And I was like, people love drag queens. Everyone loves drag queens. We're like clowns nowadays. The idea of, like, I'm just going to get in my car and drive down to Greenville, South Carolina. I'm not so sure, you know, you have a car. No, I Would I rent a car when I tour?
D
Do you still have my white gown
B
somewhere? Yes, I think I still have. Did I get. I recently did a big purge. I'm not sure if I. Girl, you could.
A
You could go into Monet's closet and take her crowning gown and take it to the Goodwill and Monet won't care. I have never seen someone so deep.
D
I'm not that precious about it.
A
From custom clothes that were, like, in big. I'd be like, I don't give a. What happened? I had to, like, I had to threaten to go and buy everything on Monet's depop so she wouldn't sell her entire season seven All Stars package.
D
It was All Stars four. You already said.
A
Whatever it was.
B
This is what people do when they're bored.
D
Anyway, honey, it was a pleasure to have you on the pod. This was a blast. I love you. You're very funny. And thank you for. Thank you for coming in here and being someone. Because you know what it is like to engage, argue, love, fight, everything with this bitch that I.
B
When I listen to this podcast, Monet, I just want you to know you are seen. I see you.
A
And I want you to know Monae Arcy is going to be on next week, and then we're going to reminisce on how messy and criminal and horrible and lovable you are. So, Aria, I'll see you next week.
D
This was incredibly validating. Honey, thank you so much. I love you very much, Thea. Right, the.
B
Thank you guys for having me.
D
All right, girl.
C
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This episode of Sibling Rivalry is a comedic deep-dive into the chaotic, beloved, and often absurd experience of living as drag queen roommates in New York City, as told by Bob the Drag Queen, Monét X Change, and special guest Honey LeBronx—a vegan chef, animal rights activist, drag performer, and Bob’s long-time friend and former roommate. The trio relive their most legendary disputes (the infamous broom argument), disasters (bedbugs, mice, collapsing apartments), inside jokes, shared lessons, and the enduring bonds built along the way. It’s about friendship, growth, being "seen," and, above all, surviving with humor.
The tone throughout is classic Sibling Rivalry: rollicking, affectionate, and gloriously petty in recounting epic roommate disputes ("keeping it real" but always with love). There’s genuine respect beneath the shade and chaos, matched by honesty and vulnerability about personal growth. The episode’s best feature is the tangible sense of history, love, and the kind of laughter that comes only from surviving the worst parts of life—together.
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Expect stories that are as outrageous as they are heartwarming, proof that chosen family, even when squabbling over brooms and bath soap, is real, resilient, and often sanctified by shared survival in the world's worst NYC apartment.