The One With Naomi Smalls (Re-Release)

Summary

Sibling Rivalry: The One With Naomi Smalls (Re-Release)

Release Date: July 10, 2023
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Special Guest: Naomi Smalls

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry features the iconic Naomi Smalls alongside Bob and Monét for a highly entertaining, shade-filled extravaganza. The trio kiki about everything from RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 10 finale looks, industry drama (featuring Azealia Banks), Twitter beefs, DragCon disasters, and the subtle politics of meet-and-greets. Packed with quick wit, honest critique, personal stories, and inside tea, the conversation is a hilarious testament to the queens’ enduring chemistry, peppered with spontaneous reads and classic drag humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Classic Sibling Banter & Naomi’s Introduction

• The episode kicks off with the hosts and Naomi playfully bickering about proper introductions and the running order of their names.
• “[Introducing me]—y’all must be sisters because y’all have bad manners.” - Naomi (02:46)
• Lighthearted jabs about Monet’s busy schedule, Bob’s “attitude”, and Naomi’s patience as a guest set the tone for the episode’s banter.

Naomi and Monét: Have They Worked Together?

• The group realizes that, while they often cross paths, Monet and Naomi haven’t yet performed at the same gig, but they hope to change that soon (03:30–03:47).

Monét’s One-Woman Show & UK/Ireland Mix-Ups

• Monét announces her upcoming one-woman show, “Call Me By Monét,” with dates in NYC and the Midwest, plus a UK/Ireland tour (03:55–04:19).
• Hilarious confusion ensues over the distinction between the UK and Ireland as they try to clarify geography and avoid offending fans—serving classic drag ignorance-meets-humor realness (04:19–05:16).

Website & Drag on a Budget

• Monét and Naomi gush over Naomi’s website and an iconic cheap-but-glam photoshoot. Naomi reveals her fan-favorite look was made with a "$3 bra, $4 pair of panties, and a $10 wig." (06:28–06:36)

Pose, Representation & Auditions

• Discussion about the groundbreaking show Pose, the rarity of casting Black trans women over 40, and Monét’s audition story for Marsha P. Johnson (06:53–07:54).
• “Could you imagine? They’re like, alright, we need a legendary mother of the house. So we need a woman. Okay, you just knocked out half the actor. Trans woman… Black trans woman… Black trans woman over 40. There’s probably three people to pick from.” - Bob (07:20)

Drag Race Entrance Lines, Makeovers & Memorable Moments

• They dish on iconic and questionable Drag Race entrance lines and exits, poking fun at each other's ("I'm here to sweep up the competition") and debate what would have been better (08:06–09:10).
• Stories about beauty challenge mishaps, including Naomi’s well-intentioned but awkward comments to her makeover partner (09:46–10:59).

RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 10 Finale: Runway Critiques

• The bulk of the episode has the trio critique the Season 10 finale runway looks queen by queen, with classic Sibling Rivalry “toot or boot” energy and wildly honest opinions.
• Highlights & Notable Quotes:
  • “Pandora Box is shaped like Wendy Williams. Like, what is going on here?” - Bob (13:45)
  • “Sasha Velour… I just don’t get what the bird has to do with the whole thing, but it’s cute.” - Monét (15:35)
  • “That outfit is 100% from Amazon. I’m not lying. That’s not a joke.” - Bob on Akasha (16:48)
  • Monét on sponges: “I love my little sponge outfit.” (21:23)
  • A hilarious debate erupts on whether Monét’s finale outfit was “fully stoned” (21:39–23:13)
  • Playful shade on reveals: “The big reveal was when she opened a suitcase. It wasn’t nothing but fabric in it.” - Bob about Monique Heart (20:47)

DragCon Disasters & Booth Trauma

• They recount DragCon woes: unfinished booths, lost stones, the drag queen struggle, and Monique Heart’s epic Instagram Live read of booth designers—including phone number callouts (46:03–47:26).

Social Media and Twitter Beefs

• Discussion about Monét’s Twitter feud with Azealia Banks, RuPaul’s disputed “Call Me Mother,” and the broader relationship between Azealia and the LGBTQ community (27:36–31:46).
  • “If you’re on your 10th apology, something tells me you’re not fucking sorry.” - Bob (29:18)
  • “The gays are in an abusive relationship with Azealia Banks.” - Naomi (29:47)
• Bob hilariously recounts recognizing one of his Twitter trolls as a past hookup (32:40–33:32).

Hookup Confessions & Safety Paranoia

• Naomi and Monét swap stories about hooking up while on tour and the perils that come with fan encounters—lost cash, being recognized, and the unique hunger for McDonald’s overseas (33:42–36:29).

The Fan Experience: Meet & Greets & Wild Gifts

• The queens discuss the sometimes discomforting honesty of fans at meet-and-greets—including Bob’s dramatic rejection of a “shady” flower bouquet (37:24–37:56).

The Power of Drag Icons & Beauty Trends

• Monét praises Naomi for setting a makeup trend post-Drag Race, specifically the “Naomi brow.”
  • “How does it feel to be a beauty icon?” - Monét (49:04)
  • Naomi reflects on her influence, saying, “It’s kind of like hurtful to see, like, these young kids who look way better than me because they have no pores and they haven’t gone through anything in life yet. … It’s an honor, but I’m always trying to change it up.” (49:17–49:46)
  • Playful back-and-forth about Naomi’s “long-ass” brows and Bob’s makeup, in classic rival style (49:47–50:27).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Instagram Live Reads:
  “She put their phone number out there, she called out addresses, she gave their blood type, she gave their mother’s maiden name, the last four of their social.” – Bob (47:14)
• On Drag Race Finale Outfits:
  “This is not fully stoned. Are you still standing by that’s fully stoned?” – Bob (22:16)
  “Yes.” – Monét (22:31)
• On Azealia Banks’ Drama:
  “Do you not realize that the LGBTQIA community is the only reason you have a career? The hetero community wasn’t checking for your ass before this debacle, and they won’t after. Obscurity is where you shall exist.” – Monét (30:38)
• On Meet and Greets:
  “You paid to stand in a line to meet me. Why do you think you could talk to me?” – Naomi (38:17)
• On Being a Beauty Reference:
  “Everyone tried to do the Naomi brows and Naomi eye. How does it feel to be a beauty icon?” – Monét (49:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Naomi’s Introduction & Early Banter: 01:21–03:25
• Monét’s Show & UK/Ireland Geography Comedy: 03:51–05:16
• Pose Casting & Audition Stories: 06:41–07:54
• Drag Race Entrance/Exit Lines & Makeover Challenge: 08:06–11:16
• RuPaul's Drag Race Season 10 Finale Look Critiques: 12:05–26:10
  • Notable shade, runway opinions, and look breakdowns with timestamps per queen
• Twitter Drama with Azealia Banks: 27:36–32:14
• Bob’s Twitter Hookup Confession: 32:40–33:32
• Meet & Greets, Fan Stories & Gifts: 37:24–38:25, 43:33–44:24
• DragCon Booth Fiasco: 46:01–47:26
• Being a Beauty Icon & Naomi’s Influence: 49:13–50:27

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Episode Tone & Vibe

The tone remains playfully cutting, brutally honest, and wildly engaging throughout. Listeners can expect relentless reads, faux-arguments, and affectionate roast-style humor, seasoned with genuine insight into drag culture, fan dynamics, and peer relationships.

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Conclusion

This episode is a must-listen for Drag Race fans who love the dynamic, no-holds-barred chemistry of Bob and Monét—now with an extra dose of Naomi Smalls’ wit, beauty, and candor. From runway critiques to industry tea to classic fan interactions, the queens keep it raw, funny, and fiercely entertaining from start to finish.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

name is Bob the Drag Queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm Monet X Change. And this is Sibling Rivalry.

[Naomi Smalls]

This week we discuss the Runway looks from the RuPaul's Drag Race season 10 finale.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We discuss Azealia Banks.

[Monet X Change]

And we found out. What made me say this. Oh, girl, it literally gives me. I can't even watch him do it.

[Naomi Smalls]

Hello, this is Naomi Smalls, and if you enjoyed Sibling Rivalry with Bob the Drag Queen and Monet x Change, please give them a five star rating on itunes.

[Monet X Change]

Sorry, you have to do that again because my name goes first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't. Don't ignore that. All right, we are back, back, back again.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so now you want to switch it up? No, you want to switch it up. Just two seconds ago you had all the attitude, and now you started pressing record. Now she want to fix her tone. You are so full of shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, and you still crunchy while you talking listeners.

[Monet X Change]

Bob had the only attitude he was. He all up in his attitude. But now she recorded, and now she know y' all listening. She want to be on Nice and Shit. Ooh, you are so full of shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, first of all, I do have an attitude. I'm the vixen. I came to fight. But two, I want all the fans to know the reason we have not been able to record in a while is because Monet's crunchy ass was like, I can't. I have to. You don't know how Monet had the audacity to say to me you don't know how tough it is to do the reunion. I said, okay, first of all, this thing.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay, the audacity. The audacity is that I have been here and no one has introduced me. Okay, y' all must be sisters because y' all have bad manners.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we please introduce our guest this week? Please make some noise for Ms. Naomi Small.

[Naomi Smalls]

This is episode I could be doing with my house. I know. Thank you for having me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I bet you did, Re.

[Naomi Smalls]

Naomi, I peel part of the triplets now. Have you got, like, a curly wig on top of my head and a sponge outfit just on top of my head.

[Monet X Change]

First of all, it's not a wig. It's called a poof, bitch.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's called a toupee.

[Monet X Change]

A Brillo toupee.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Have y' all two worked together yet?

[Monet X Change]

No, we haven't worked together yet.

[Naomi Smalls]

I always see you when you're at the end of a show at a diner or.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, Monet, always. Oh, that's a re. That was a re.

[Naomi Smalls]

It sure the hell was. Or like the premiere or like the red carpets or something like that. But we've never actually had the chance to be at a gig together.

[Monet X Change]

I hope it happens soon.

[Naomi Smalls]

Me too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Monet thinks she's fierce. Cause Monet's doing her one woman show. Call Me by Monet.

[Monet X Change]

I am doing my one woman show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And where are you doing it at, Monet?

[Monet X Change]

I'm doing it. I'm starting off at the Laurie Beechman Theater in New York City, the 20th through the 23rd of September. They were going through the Midwest, in Nashville and in Kentucky. We're doing about eight dates in the Midwest, and then I'm taking it to the uk, Which. Bob, by the way, when I went to the UK for work the world, we have a lot of listeners for sibling rivalry in the uk.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, well, shout out to the uk. And Monet has learned her lesson about Ireland.

[Monet X Change]

Girl, don't call it the uk. We have it. I was like, I apologize. UK and Ireland. I did not know that. I don't know all of the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Northern Ireland, okay? There is Ireland in the UK and there's in Britain, and then there's Northern Ireland, which is not part of Britain.

[Monet X Change]

No, you're wrong, Bob. No, Northern Ireland is part of the uk. Dublin is in Ireland, and that's not part of the uk. So you just fucked it up again. So make sure y' all hatonequeen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think you're right.

[Naomi Smalls]

There's plenty of Drag Race alumni that go over To Dublin and what's up, uk?

[Monet X Change]

And they're like, right?

[Naomi Smalls]

And then. No, sweetie, the leprechauns are not having it. Naomi, Is that Irish?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, leprechauns are from Ireland. Yes,

[Monet X Change]

Victoria listeners. That was aomysmals who just said that. So y' all better.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my gosh. I can't say shit on here, huh? This is why I don't talk. I just look pretty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, let me run out. This is not. What's the tea with RuPaul and Michelle massage? This is not.

[Naomi Smalls]

Let's talk about Squarespace.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. First of all, the biggest difference is we don't have sponsors. I think the biggest difference between us and RuPaul and Michelle is we don't have no fucking sponsors. So we can say whatever the fuck we want to say out our mouths. Ain't nobody business, but ours is cool.

[Monet X Change]

Well, to invite the spirit of Naomi Smalls upon me, I am currently on your website, which, I mean, there are websites and there are websites. This is just. I mean, this is the work of our girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, thank you. Thank you. There's no sponges. I'm so sorry. I can't soak up those followers.

[Monet X Change]

My favorite one. I think my favorite one is the one with you. It's so simple, but I don't know, I just love it a lot. It's the one in you laying down with the long blonde hair, and you have, like, the tan or blonde bikini on or underwear.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's so crazy. People love that shot. And it's like a $3 bra, a $4 pair of panties, and, like, a $10 wig.

[Monet X Change]

Really?

[Naomi Smalls]

But that's true beauty. Sweet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you get your entire drag from Family Dollar and you still look like Ledger Evangelista, that's when you know it's on and popping. Speaking of House of Evangelista, have you been watching Pose?

[Monet X Change]

I haven't seen it yet. I feel like a bad guy.

[Naomi Smalls]

Bob and I were watching it last night.

[Monet X Change]

Is it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you. I mean, I'm. Go ahead. Is it good? I like the themes of this show. All the acting doesn't particularly speak to me, but I just love the theme of the show so much. I mean, I'm watching. I'm gonna watch every. I already bought the whole season on Amazon.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, work.

[Naomi Smalls]

Bob had a good point, though, that the casting is probably hard for that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. I mean, could you imagine? They're like, all right, we need the legendary mother of the house, so we need a woman. Okay, you just knocked out half the actor. Trans woman. You just knocked out 90% of those actors, a black trans woman. All right, you just knocked out, like, you know, two thirds of that. A black trans woman over 40. There's probably three people to pick from.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, totally.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Well, do you know, I read for a role for Pose.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What role?

[Monet X Change]

It's not. It's not out. I guess she's gonna be in the season at some point, but I read for Marsha P. Johnson and Pose.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, work. I thought you read for, like, a janitor or something.

[Monet X Change]

Naomi.

[Naomi Smalls]

No, that was her wife.

[Monet X Change]

Naomi. Don't laugh. That's not even a funny joke. Bob thinks he's funny. He's not fucking funny.

[Naomi Smalls]

How'd that janitor reveal go, Monet?

[Monet X Change]

I have. You know, it's one of the most iconic entrances in Drag Race herstory. In my mind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is time, Monet, your little. I'm here to sweep up the competition was not one of the most iconic entrances in drag racing. Also, I told Monet and fans, tell me if you agree. I. I told Monet that she should walk in and say, looks like the exchange rate just went up.

[Monet X Change]

No. Okay, you are. Bob, why are you lying so.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my God, Monet, I. No, no, no, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

Truly lie. No, no, I'm not gonna lie. You said. I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We were.

[Monet X Change]

We were at your apartment. We went back and forth between, like, nine different things. I said. I mean, you. You said your exchange rate, something, something. But you did not say about. About to go up. You had some other crunchy ass thing, and I came up with about to skyrocket or something like that. But you did say your exchange rate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not say about to skyrocket because that is some Disney Channel bullshit that I wouldn't have said. I said, it looks like the exchange rate just went up. That is lit. But you know what's not lit? I'm here to sweep up the competition.

[Naomi Smalls]

If you could, would you redo your entrance line, Bob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, when I walked in, I didn't say anything. I just said, well. And I put my hand on my head, right?

[Monet X Change]

That fucking crunchy ass entrance. That ain't. That ain't. Nobody gets.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'll tell you what, I may have had a cringy entrance, but I didn't have any kind of an exit, bitch. Boom.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, shit.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay, Monet, you're the one who had your makeover there. Talking with you, right? For your exit. Yes.

[Monet X Change]

They were coming for me in my makeover.

[Naomi Smalls]

I would have hated that. I would have hated that. I'd be like, get the fuck out of here. This Is my moment.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, he was with you during your exit?

[Monet X Change]

The one in the workroom? Yeah, I was. I was. I was a little over it. Cause you can tell. I mean, not. I wasn't over Tyler. I was just over the whole thing because I. Cause I felt like ours wasn't that bad. And then, like, I'm trying to do my little thing, and he's, like, hugging me, and you can see there's, like. There's, like, a gif or a screenshot someone did of me, like, literally, like, pulling my head back away from him, like, in, like, such an. Which I wasn't trying to. I wasn't mad at him. I was just like, ugh, whatever. This is happening right now.

[Naomi Smalls]

You're just done.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They didn't air this. And I probably shouldn't say it. Maybe I'll edit it out if Naomi wants me to. But during our makeover challenge. Naomi. Okay, first of all, we were making over. Over little people, right? And Naomi kept patting her little woman on the head,

[Naomi Smalls]

who was like a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she kept saying stuff like, oh, my God, you're so adorable. I want to put you in my pocket.

[Naomi Smalls]

You are my Polly. You're like my little Polly Pocket doll.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then I specifically remember that woman looking at Naomi and being like, I have a daughter your age,

[Monet X Change]

Naomi.

[Naomi Smalls]

I was coming from a place of, like, love and, like, cuteness. I wasn't trying to be, like, demeaning to her. I've just said, never been around someone so small in my life.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like. I was like. Ever since. When the little woman came through, I was like, oh, shit, Layla. McQueen's back work. I still think the best makeover challenge, the best makeover idea, was having them makeover all the eliminated queens.

[Naomi Smalls]

That for season seven?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, wait. Season seven, they did that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. They brought back all. They. They sent home half the queens. Brought them all back. And then that was the makeover challenge.

[Monet X Change]

I don't remember that. Season seven was so whack. I literally don't even remember that happen. And that sounds like it would be really fierce.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's crazy because season seven is one of the least talked about seasons, but it has, like, the best runways.

[Monet X Change]

Are you joking? No, it does. Yeah.

[Naomi Smalls]

They had Violet. They had fame.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you mean. You mean, like, people? I thought you meant, like, categories.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, no, but, like, just, like, actual looks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Since we're talking about Drag Race, can we please have a quick discussion about the looks from the finale of RuPaul's motherfucking Drag Race? I have the WOW report pulled up. We will go through them all one by one.

[Monet X Change]

Our producer didn't send me this link, so can you tell me how do I access that? Please?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Go to wow.

[Naomi Smalls]

Go to Instagram. Type in wow report.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You better read her now. You better read her, Naomi. So we're gonna start with my side,

[Monet X Change]

not fucking Bob's side.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. Oh, my gosh, you're so right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Naomi, you are my team. What is this? Eliminated ass season.

[Monet X Change]

Tanqueen. Wait, can we talk about how much weight Madame laqueer lost?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, Madame laqueer went on the fucking swan.

[Advertisement Voice]

Okay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Madame laqueer got braces. She had a mole removed. She had a whole person removed. She lost a lot of weight.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. She came up. She came up to the mic, and Ru was like. And then she said her name. And then. And Ru was like, oh, my God, you look so good, girl. And then she tried to make a joke that didn't land. Not Ru. Madame Lacquer did. And Rue. And you could tell Rue had that face like. All right, ask the question, girl. I gave you a five seconds. Ask the question.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love. I love Ru. And she's like that.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, same.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, okay, so what do you think about Madame Laqueer Tudor boots?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, boot girl. The house down combat boots.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the house. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

All right, so nique

[Bob the Drag Queen]

yellow cow.

[Naomi Smalls]

Stunning in a different color, right? Maybe like a solid or something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I love Sonique, but I can't vibe with this outfit. I can't give this outfit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I just opened it up even. But yeah, no, that's a bunch mood

[Bob the Drag Queen]

for me now for the fans, Sonique is wearing a, like, a yellow cow

[Naomi Smalls]

print spongebob, honestly thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, let's go to Pandora Box, who's shaped like Wendy Williams. Like, what is going on here?

[Monet X Change]

Pandora boxing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Am I lying or am I telling the truth?

[Monet X Change]

She's shaped like Wendy Williams in this photo.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Am I lying or am I telling the gods?

[Monet X Change]

I think it's the way that she's standing and she's posing. That's why it's, like, throwing it off. Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bebe's a harbor nade. I think she looks great.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love her hair. I.

[Monet X Change]

You don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna toot it.

[Monet X Change]

Bibi always wears questionable.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So Naomi's a toot or boot I'm gonna boot.

[Monet X Change]

Bibi always wears questionable fabrics.

[Naomi Smalls]

Always. Okay, James, you can't talk about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let's go to James man's. No, let's go to this dress is ill fated.

[Monet X Change]

No, let's go to this beautiful black man, Jeffrey Jeffrey Chapkin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm only talking about. I'm only talking about queens. I'm skipping over all the. Yeah, he's gorgeous. He's stunning. He's absolutely beautiful.

[Monet X Change]

I want him to put his penis on my face and rub it around.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds like it'd be a good time.

[Monet X Change]

To be honest, I'm not gonna lie.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm glad that I thought Akasha was Asia.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You thought Akasha was Asia? Okay, we're hopping around. Let's go. We're only doing queens. Jaymes Mansfield.

[Naomi Smalls]

Akasha is a queen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we're going in order.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, James, man. No, no, no, ma'. Am.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you don't like Jayne Mansfield's outfit?

[Monet X Change]

No. Girl, that looks so tacky. Wackety.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. It's not cute. I can't.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's not like it's bad. It's just like she's too young.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

To be dressed in this all.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. It really ages her.

[Monet X Change]

It really does.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I don't like that.

[Naomi Smalls]

And not in like a cute, like, pinuppy way. And like a pork chop with.

[Monet X Change]

All right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Sasha. Oh, my God. Sasha Velour.

[Monet X Change]

Sasha Velour. This was cute. I don't get what the bird has to do with the whole thing, but it's cute.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she loves to put stuff on her head.

[Monet X Change]

She will put anything on her head. But I mean, the whole outfit is obviously, it's very well made. You can see and it's. But I just don't get the bird. Do you get it?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm not crazy about the bird. I wish it was just a feather, not an entire bird.

[Monet X Change]

Right. Is she supposed to be like a.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You have a huge crush on. Wait, wait, wait. Pause, pause. Get close to my. You gotta get close to my mic.

[Naomi Smalls]

I'm sorry.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you have a crush on Sasha.

[Naomi Smalls]

I have a crush on Sasha. I think she's just so hot.

[Monet X Change]

Do you really like as a guy?

[Naomi Smalls]

Both. Yeah. Sasha in all forms, I think is so hot.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, wow.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Sasha is. I will say this. Sasha is a good looking guy. I think Sasha's cute too.

[Naomi Smalls]

So charming and like the way he talks to you is like sex.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like you want to suck your dick.

[Naomi Smalls]

I know. I would definitely not turn it away, though.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her look looks a lot like her look from the red carpet last year, but toned down.

[Monet X Change]

Wait, the red carpet last year? What is she wearing? Oh, oh, that blue and white thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the doily.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. So then that's the boots. That's the sleeve.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I can see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Akasha, this outfit is 100% from Amazon. I'm not lying. That's not a joke. That outfit. I've seen it. It is 100% from Amazon.

[Naomi Smalls]

Is it stones like that on Amazon?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, it is.

[Naomi Smalls]

Gag. That's like some AliExpress shit.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Naomi Smalls]

Like, these queens can just go on AliExpress and get, like, a fully stone tassel ostrich moment.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it isn't. But it's not a bad outfit. I just don't know if it's right for this occasion or that. She looks very good in it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, she did have those, like, those, like, those gold Balenciaga boots, which were. Which are everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I'm obsessed with Porkchop's outfit.

[Monet X Change]

What does it say?

[Naomi Smalls]

I love. Says dragcon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just a big. I think she just wore her Drag. No, it's Ms. Dragcon because she won Ms. Dragcon and it's got a big

[Monet X Change]

painting of her on it. I love it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't care what you guys say, I fucking love it.

[Monet X Change]

Cause Bob, you. I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, this is a lot of queens. We gotta start skipping. This is too many folks.

[Naomi Smalls]

Well, we can do Vanjie. She's important.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, let's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, okay. Vanjie's outfit was really fun.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, it was everything. I love it. And her hair and everything. It was just. It was just. Wait, wait, girl. Wait till you see her fucking reunion outfit.

[Naomi Smalls]

She loves. She loves that hair.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It looks a little bit like it's made out of curtains A little bit. I'm not gonna lie. Like, some really nice curtains.

[Monet X Change]

I can see that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or like, a duvet cover.

[Monet X Change]

This is like. These are curtains in, like, a really rich white woman's house on the Upper east side. And.

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But.

[Monet X Change]

But she's. But she's old as hell.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm so here for Mayhem's outfit.

[Monet X Change]

Well, you skipped. You skipped someone, and I skipped a

[Bob the Drag Queen]

couple people because some we can't.

[Monet X Change]

No, no calorie. You missed calorie calories before Mayhem.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't. I didn't miss her.

[Naomi Smalls]

He was trying to be nice.

[Monet X Change]

What did.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's fine. It's fine. I mean, it's not. I'm not blown away. It's a. It's a pretty dress, but it's fine.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, Okay.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, are you blown. Are you blown away by this dress?

[Monet X Change]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you just had to stop the whole podcast talk about it.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's very, like, corn Con dress, Red car, they have.

[Monet X Change]

Looks beautiful.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love you guys. Make sure you talk loud and Close to the mic, Monet. Because me and Monet are screamers. Okay, we gotta. Oh, okay. This is the best Monique Heart has ever looked.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Wait, okay. Dusty Ray bottoms. You're not doing Dusty.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I'm not skipping anyone on accident. Just so we're clear, Dusty looks okay. Dusty looks good, actually. I actually like the way she looks.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, no. This is.

[Monet X Change]

You're understanding this outfit is beautiful. This ground was incredible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What? What? I mean, I think she looks good. I like it. I mean, I don't think I'm going as crazy as you're going, but I like it, though.

[Monet X Change]

Maybe in person it read better, but it was beautiful. It's gorgeous in person.

[Naomi Smalls]

Do you genuinely like it or do you like it for Dusty?

[Monet X Change]

I genuinely like it. Like, I would have worn that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Cause I think that's what we always tend to stray away from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is.

[Naomi Smalls]

Is it an actually good garment or is it just like, they look good in it?

[Monet X Change]

No, it's actually. This is a good garment to me. I think it's gorgeous.

[Naomi Smalls]

Honey.

[Monet X Change]

It was, like, fully stoned. Monique. Oh, Monique.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can we. Can we move? What do you mean? She looks beautiful.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, it's good. She. Wait till you see the episode is what I'm saying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I'm assuming that knowing Monique, she threw this big fur on because she didn't finish the top of the outfit. Monique was probably hopping out the cab. Like, just throw on a big ass fur, girl. You know, I can't finish the top.

[Monet X Change]

No, it's. It's.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, brown. Stunning.

[Monet X Change]

It's a reveal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I like it the way it is. Is the reveal fierce or no?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's fierce.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You just afraid to get ready.

[Naomi Smalls]

Sasha Velour just made it like, everyone has to do a reveal.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's kind of been Monique's whole gig. The whole season. She had like eight reveals on the

[Naomi Smalls]

Runway and only, like, two costumes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The big reveal was when she opened a suitcase. It wasn't nothing but fabric in it. That was the big reveal.

[Naomi Smalls]

She probably put almost bolts of fabric in her suitcases on the way out. No.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, no, she did. When Monique got kicked off and she was in the work room packing up, Monique was in a mood wall just like Thorgy Thor and took some fabric with her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That is so shady. I love Blair St. Clair's outfit.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I loved Blair's too. It was very beautiful.

[Naomi Smalls]

I would have loved if she was in, like, a black updo. That would have been everything.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, a lot. Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Macaroni exchange. Monet X change.

[Monet X Change]

I Love my little sponge outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I like the outfit. I want more drama out of it. If you're gonna come back in the motherfucking sponge, come back in the motherfucking sponge. But you look good in it. You know what I mean?

[Monet X Change]

This is fully stoned. What do you mean, more drama? What do you want me to be flying on a fucking.

[Naomi Smalls]

Did you say fully stoned? Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't throw around the words fully stoned. You can't tell there's a trail of stones going across your titty, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

No, it looks like that, but that Patty and Taylor did this for two days. I'm telling you, in this picture, you can't see it. This outfit is fully stoned.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. This outfit is not fully solid. I'm telling you what.

[Naomi Smalls]

This night was coming for like a year, Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I am looking at the outfit. There's titty, there's. Your entire left shoulder is stone. It goes over half of your titty across your waist. The bottom of the peplums are stone. There is a one inch stone going across your thick ass, thighs, and then the stone. But it's not. But you cannot say fully stone the outfit that Roxxxy Andrews did Reggie Rochu in that was fully stoned. This is not fully stoned. Are you still standing by that's fully stoned?

[Monet X Change]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm gonna take pictures and post them when I get. When I see.

[Monet X Change]

Okay? Okay. I can't wait for you to fucking see it. It is fully stoned, bitch.

[Naomi Smalls]

Did you get in a Uber plus Monet?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This outfit is.

[Monet X Change]

I'm looking at it. You know what you'll see at the finale? Moving on the vixen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you better. You probably gonna be trying to add more stones to it before I see it in person.

[Naomi Smalls]

You're goo it on the plane, glued in first class like, I hope the E6000 doesn't bother you guys.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I want to see your Amazon shipping order. Also, what is the point of stone that you can't see? That's like when someone's like, oh, there's onions in it, but you can't taste it. Then get rid of those motherfuckers, Bob. That's you.

[Naomi Smalls]

Okay?

[Monet X Change]

Don't act like you just started doing drag. You know that when you take pictures, stone, you can see stoning in video and not in pictures. Don't act like you just started doing drug yesterday, bitch. Don't even try it, baby.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Your channel's dog, baby. Yours squabble.

[Monet X Change]

Stop trying to put on in front

[Bob the Drag Queen]

of your little friends.

[Naomi Smalls]

You Order your stones from China.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Now let's go over to Cracker. I love Cracker's look.

[Monet X Change]

I did, too. It was pretty.

[Naomi Smalls]

What is? Oh, the morning one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then last but not least. Well, not last. Let's get three more. How about Cameron?

[Monet X Change]

Cameron Michaels.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's cool. It looks. It looks. Here's the thing.

[Monet X Change]

Cameron loves to wear his. This outfit would have been stunning if he had an updo. Like, if he had it, like, snatched

[Bob the Drag Queen]

into, like, a hair. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And he loves to put on, like, a crown and put something on his head, which I don't understand why he does that.

[Naomi Smalls]

What? You're like sisters with him. What is Cameron's drag style like? What is he, Cosplay queen?

[Monet X Change]

Video games. It is very inspired by video games. But he loves to throw. If you look at all of Cameron's pictures, he always has to throw something crazy on his head. A fucking tiara or some crazy shit. I don't get it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I'm just not here for this. I think it's the hair making me not, like. Because the dress is pretty.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, the hair is, like, crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay. Eureka. Looks like ginger minj.

[Monet X Change]

Eureka. I did not like this. I thought this was so basic and so ugly. I did not like it. This at all, especially. It was just like a hair too high.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I like it, actually.

[Monet X Change]

It was like a hair too high. And when you have on a big hoop skirt like that, it has to touch the floor or else it looks crazy.

[Naomi Smalls]

I never want to tell that you're wearing a hoop skirt.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly. And. Exactly. And so she didn't have enough crinoline between the outer layer of the skirt and the hoops, so you can see the four hoops. And I'm like, I hate that.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't mind it, but she does. But I'm not crazy about it.

[Monet X Change]

All right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just can't. I can't, like, what ages want.

[Monet X Change]

I can't. Queen Amidala girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's like, no, that's Queen Cost a dollar is what this shit is, girl.

[Monet X Change]

Oh,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

do you like this?

[Naomi Smalls]

No, I don't really like the stuff that she wears, though. I can appreciate that. There's so much effort and so much time that goes into these costumes, but I never really care for her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mon, yes or no?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I don't really think it speaks to who Asia is. I don't get it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet. You're not answering the question. Do you like this outfit, yes or no? Yeah, I like it. You are up to your elbows in shit. You afraid she's gonna read you on her Instagram store?

[Naomi Smalls]

You still read Reddit, don't you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you like this outfit? You think she looks fierce in it? Yes, I do. Monet, you are so lying. Are you scared of Asia? You can say it.

[Monet X Change]

I'm not lying. Asked me a question. I said I like the outf.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, do you think Asia looks good in this outfit?

[Naomi Smalls]

Bob, now you're bullying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So you do?

[Monet X Change]

Yes, I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, you are so full of shit. You are laughing through the answer. Cause you know you lying.

[Naomi Smalls]

The truth.

[Monet X Change]

I like the outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, last one is Aquaria.

[Monet X Change]

Aquaria. I like Aquaria's outfit. Her mask thing was really cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I love it. I can't even deal with you anymore, Thomas. You like AJ's outfit? You know you lying. You know you lying. You think she lying? May over.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, the fact that she's still laughing about it uncomfortably just shows that she's lying.

[Monet X Change]

I'm literally crying. I can't. Y' all are so silly anyway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Cause you scared AJ gonna stand in your line at DragCon and say something mean about you.

[Naomi Smalls]

Maybe she'll release a bunch of flying something at you or non flying. My bad.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Naomi Smalls]

Take the life out of you,

[Monet X Change]

Leiobi.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

All right, so this week in the drama. So, Monet, we haven't talked since you and Azealia Banks got into your Twitter war.

[Naomi Smalls]

Monet, you did. You got in a feud with Naomi.

[Monet X Change]

Where the fuck have you been? Of course I did, girl. I had to let that bitch have it.

[Naomi Smalls]

Why? Well, give me. I'm sorry, I don't know the tea. I kind of. Stay out of it.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, so you know, Ms. Azealia Banks has been. Has been talking about. She's trying to sue RuPaul because he stole. Call Me Mother. Like he. She stole the beat and the inspiration from her song the Big Beat, and she tried to Sue RuPaul and she got his songs, like, removed from Spotify and. Or Apple Music. I think. But after like, two days, Spotify. And so they. They investigated or whatever, and they're like, no, this is bullshit. And they put RuPaul songs back. So then Azealia Banks put up a tweet. Let me, let me, let me bring up the receipts. Twitter, so I can read it, because I don't want to misquote First Lady Banks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you're gonna have to find an article about it because she got banned from Twitter after.

[Monet X Change]

No, but it's still, it's still. Oh, yeah, you're right. I can't. I won't be able to see it that way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, you have to find, like, an article where people did screen grabs because that was her. So, you know, Chibi Xo wasn't her first Twitter name. That was her second one after her first one got suspended.

[Naomi Smalls]

I feel like she's on, like, her fifth. Honestly, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, like, honey, because, like, whenever

[Naomi Smalls]

I check it, I always have, like, more followers than she does. And that's stupid. I think she, like, just started it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm always like, girl, take a note from fucking Elsa and let it go. Become one with the wind and sky. You gotta let it go, girl. And then so I. I came out and I was like, don't be talking about my little chunky ass sister. I got something to. So then I came forward.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you had to stop me, didn't you?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, Monet, I do. And then someone was like, nah, there were a lot of people saying that I was misogynistic. I was being misogynistic because I was calling out Azalea Banks. Exactly. But I just think that Azalea Banks has been problematic toward the gay community for a very, very, very, very long time. And folks like, but she apologized. She keeps apologizing. She keeps apologizing. If you're on your 10th apology, something tells me you're not fucking sorry.

[Monet X Change]

Exactly.

[Naomi Smalls]

My favorite tweet is when it says, the gays are in an abusive relationship with Azaria Banks.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, they keep fucking coming back. And has there been any other drama this week that we missed out on that?

[Monet X Change]

I don't think so. But let me just get. Let me say what I said to her. I had said to her. So she said, naomi, that she doesn't want any. She don't want no more drag queens performing her shit anymore. All of us are. All of us got broken pussies and we. And just, just, just gotta come for drag queens. Like, just drag queens as a whole. And I said, I will no longer perform Azealia's Azealia's music ever. She's rotted trash. And then she said something about me. She tried. I can't see it, but I had said, good one, Azealia. Gotta love a tired bitch with preschool reads. Do you not realize that the LGBTQIA community is the. The only reason you have a career? The hetero community wasn't checking for your ass before this debacle, and they won't after. Obscurity is where you shall exist.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That sounds like a read from Pose.

[Monet X Change]

No, that sounds like some fucking Scandal shit. And you, Mr. President, need to go to the bathroom. Cause I have to pee. And if I have to pee, then you. We all have to pee like it's some Scandal shit. Some Shonda Rhimes.

[Naomi Smalls]

Come on, Kerry Washington.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think you did something between Scandal and hidden figures out of a pot none of you wanna touch.

[Monet X Change]

I know that's some good shit. But anyway, are you. Were you ever a big Azalea fan? Naomi.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love her music. Yeah, I love her music. I used to really love performing to it. And I did not know about this drama. I did not know. She said that, like, she didn't want any drag queen performing her song.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that's recent. Yeah, this is recent.

[Monet X Change]

Like a week old.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, there's old pictures of Azealia Banks cheesing all up in RuPaul's face. And then she was like, I will say this. I wouldn't listen to this. Everyone was like, how are you defending RuPaul? First of all, I didn't defend RuPaul. I can listen to some. They do sound similar.

[Monet X Change]

They sound very similar.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But that does not. That has not. That's not what I was talking about. I was like, you made fun of Monet and you hate gay people all the time. So I. I don't fuck with you no more. And then someone's like, you shouldn't want her to. You shouldn't try to ban her. I said, I'm not trying to ban her. I don't care if people listen to her music. Listen to her music all fucking day. I don't want Azealia Banks to go broke. I don't want anyone to go broke, let alone another queer black person. But I don't fuck with her.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, Agreed.

[Naomi Smalls]

Gosh. Twitter beef, man.

[Monet X Change]

I know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Twitter is.

[Naomi Smalls]

Twitter is all about the beef.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, you know what he said?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That food is the land of X

[Monet X Change]

Men now that a bitch is verified and shit. I love my favorite thing to do. Is when I have a salty or bad experience with something, like an airline or something. I just put a nice little tweet and I mentioned them. Oh, damn. They're quick to fix it because I got a little blue check marks.

[Naomi Smalls]

That's so wild, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, so here's the thing. One day, so I got. I got into it with a guy on Twitter, an Azalea Banks fan. And then because he was. He was saying. He called me. He was like. He called me Bob the Clown Queen.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yes. I remember this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I looked at his picture and I was like, this is a guy I hooked up with once.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, yeah, I saw that. And I didn't know if you were joking or not. Did you really fuck this dude?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we hooked up. 100% hooked up. And then he. Then he said on Twitter, someone was like, these hoes ain't loyal. Something like that. And he goes, me having my. But my dick in Bob's mouth does not merit my loyalty. To which I responded, your lamp, musty dick that you brought to my house, that you delivered here. I said, I ordered you, like, grubhub. Except when I ordered it, when it showed up, it wasn't what I fucking ordered. And it was like a whole debacle.

[Monet X Change]

I saw that. I saw, like, missing a piece of it. But I didn't know if you were, like, doing a thing. I didn't know you really was. I mean, so. Okay, so be honest. Was it, like a bad lay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

His. Everything I said was Shay's dip. His dick was limp. I was like, you had a limp

[Naomi Smalls]

dick, Monet, have you had any road experiences after Drag Race?

[Monet X Change]

Yes. So I was recently in Belfast in Northern Ireland, and this is the first time I've gotten inundated with fans. So I went. I normally don't use my actual picture. Cause I just don't want to deal with that. And I was like, you know what? I'm in a different country. I'm out of the US I'm gonna put my actual picture, Monet X Change well, Kevin. And then. Cause all the fans like, oh, my God, is this really Monet? I'm like, yeah. So there was one. So then took the picture off, and I cropped it, and I just put like, half my chin and my shoulder in it. So then he responded and he was like. He said something, something, something. And then I blocked him because he kept on asking questions about Drag Race. And then later on after. After the gig, we went to the club and then he. I guess he made a new profile. And he messaged me. He's like, hey, I see you're at the boombox. I was like, oh, my God. Let me see if this guy really looks like his picture.

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, my God.

[Monet X Change]

And I found him in the club, and I brought him up into vip and he was talking, talking. And I was trying to fall asleep. I was like, I'm about to go back to the hotel. Are you coming with me? He's like, yeah. So then we get outside. I was like, first, I want some McDonald's. So then we went to go get some McDonald's. He paid for it. Cause he's a gentleman. And then he's talking, talking, talking. We went back to the hotel, and he keeps on asking questions about Drag Race while we're in the room, while I'm in the bed, like, about to go to bed. So then finally, I was like, look, are we gonna have fun or are you just gonna talk about Drag Race? Cause it's so. You have to leave. I took a page from Bob's. From Bob's hookup. Textbook. And then he's like, yeah, yeah, I'll hang out. So we did the do, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Naomi Smalls]

But the real question is, how many sauces did you get at McDonald's?

[Monet X Change]

I gotta say that McDonald's. Cause, okay, Ireland is great, Northern Ireland is lovely, but the food is not necessarily things that I'm accustomed to. So I was very. Well, not the UK as a whole, just Ireland. I feel like breakfast was, like, baked beans and, like, black pudding. I was like, I don't eat this stuff.

[Naomi Smalls]

My big thing that I get scared about with, like, having anyone come back to my hotel rooms is like, they could rob me or do something. Like, if I even go in the bathroom, I can come back out and like, oh, you think so all my shit's gone. Yeah. Cause I think that happened to Katya in Brazil.

[Monet X Change]

Shut up. You are afraid to hook up because you feel like they're gonna, like, rob you in your room and shit.

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, everyone's afraid to hook up for some reason, but it doesn't stop us. But, yeah, I heard Katsuya had someone, I think, in Brazil, and she hooked up with them. And she came out of the shower and, like, he was gone. And all her cash and stuff was gone, too. Work.

[Monet X Change]

Well, that's stupid.

[Naomi Smalls]

Blonde bang wig is still there. Obviously. She just had her comeback. That's kind of drama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The only thing left in the room was. Was one blonde bang.

[Monet X Change]

Why does everyone hate. I think it's a cute wig. Why does Everyone hate this wig because

[Bob the Drag Queen]

you think Asia Ohara's outfit was fierce. So we can't. We don't trust you no more. You think the sponge dress is cute, you think Asia looks fierce, and you think the conscious blonde wig is slaying the game.

[Naomi Smalls]

I was having this conversation with Bob earlier. Like, I think it was yesterday. It must suck to be told that you only wear kitty cat wigs on Drag Race, because even if you're, like, in the biggest hair at the medium meet and greet, someone's gonna come up and say, kitty cat way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, girl.

[Monet X Change]

They do a ready to go. And I always say, and. And then if they. If they. If they try to be something shady and I come back and they do one of those, I will move them out of the way and I will not take a picture with you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I bet you won't.

[Naomi Smalls]

I have my favorites. Sassy meet and greet moments.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh. So one time at the meet and greet, this guy came up to me and Naomi. He walked in, up to Naomi and he handed some flowers to me. He had two bouquets of flowers. He handed one to me, and he said, these are flowers for the girl who won. And then he had. Do you remember this, Naomi? And he handed Naomi some flowers. He said, and for the girl who should have won. And then he looked for like he was about to take his picture. And then I took the bouquet of flowers that he gave me. Then I dropped him on the ground and I stepped on them.

[Naomi Smalls]

Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I picked him up and I threw them behind the step and repeat. And he was like, I'm just kidding. I was like, bye.

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Bye.

[Naomi Smalls]

It's so wild. It's like the fans think they can just walk up and read you.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, they really do. It really is a trip.

[Naomi Smalls]

You paid to stand in a line to meet me. Why do you think you could talk to me?

[Monet X Change]

Right? Shady ass hoe.

[Naomi Smalls]

We ain't friends.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We haven't. I'm gonna turn it the funny thing, because you better start touring with girls. Touring with girls is so much better than touring by yourself. Money, I can't even.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I love to work the world. Well, here's the thing. Brandon Random Foss gagged me and I didn't know this. This was a thing on the tour.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But no one wait to the fans who don't. To the listeners don't know. Brandon Voss is a promoter who. Who promotes Work the World. The Work the World. And he does the battle on the Diva Catwalk at each track on the Diva Catwalk. I don't know what's it called? Battle on the catwalk.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, Battle on the Runway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's it. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

And then, like, so on work the world, there are eight girls. So, like, everyone is in pairs of two. And then. So I didn't know, not because she's a bad person, but because she talks a lot, which I soon discovered they paired me to do to do. My meet and greet person was Sharon Needles. Sharon will have the longest conversation with the fans. I'm like, girl, we need to get through this meet and greet. So by talking so long by all the other girls, I finished with the meet and greet, and we are still like 14 deep. Oh, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sharon has full conversation. One time. One time we were at. In the uk, in London, and then at the Troxy, and then a fan came up to. Cause we all had our individual meet and greet lines. A fan walked up to Sharon, and then all I heard was Sharon going, no, no, no, guys, I don't want to hear any stories about anyone killing themselves or wanting to kill themselves. I'm very sensitive, and I can't listen to a bunch of suicide attempt stories right before I go on stage. I appreciate you, but please don't tell me you tried to kill yourself. Just not today. Oh, can I have a day without you telling me you tried to kill yourself?

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. Really?

[Naomi Smalls]

I mean, but I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But also, in her defense, I mean, you can she. How many stories can you listen to about someone killing themselves?

[Naomi Smalls]

And it's really not like, if you want to see me have a good show, you don't want to fill my brain with, like, all that dark shit before I go on. So. I totally understand where Sharon's coming from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, if she's saying it like that, she's probably been hearing it since she was on season fucking four.

[Naomi Smalls]

Could you imagine with her fans?

[Monet X Change]

All right, Right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yeah, I was. I was just like. I mean, you know, Poor girl. Poor girl.

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah. No, what's up?

[Monet X Change]

I was gonna say, have you seen Angels in America yet?

[Naomi Smalls]

I went and I saw Bob do Angels in America last night. It was so, like, I probably sound like a dork, but it was so cute to see Bob in, like, a different way of performing.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you.

[Naomi Smalls]

It was so cool.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I've heard Monet keeps saying she coming. Monet Been trying to figure it out. How to. Every time I say you come, she goes, I'm trying to figure it out. What you mean, figure it out? Buy a ticket and bring your ass to San Francisco.

[Naomi Smalls]

Monet. You procrastinate. Don't you?

[Monet X Change]

I procrastinate just as much as Bob does.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But, yeah. Naomi came to see me last night. It was very. I was happy to have her there. It was an honor. And Naomi was very cute. Before the show, Naomi said, so I. I, like, sit in the theater the whole time. I was like, yes, Naomi in the chair, facing forward, not using your phone the whole time. And then Naomi goes, is there like an intermission? And I said, two. And her face went, what? The show is three hours and 45 minutes.

[Naomi Smalls]

It was three hours and 45 minutes, but it actually went by really fast. I was surprised. I was a little. But it was because I was entertained. I would totally 10 out of 10 recommend go seeing Angels in America.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If you want to come see Bob the Drag Queen and Angels in America, we will be at the Berkley Repertory Theater Tuesday through Sunday until July 22nd. You can go to bobthedragqueen.com to get tickets. That's Bob the Drag Queen. Dot com.

[Naomi Smalls]

You hear that, money?

[Monet X Change]

Are they sponsoring us?

[Naomi Smalls]

You have all the info.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you know who ain't sponsoring us? Call Me by Monet. Well, we let you plug that. I heard y' all are gonna be doing a new show together called Call Me by Monaomi.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God. That is not even funny.

[Naomi Smalls]

Sponge World.

[Monet X Change]

Sponge World. But did you see that? Did you see that? Spongebob tweeted me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I saw that. It's so crazy.

[Naomi Smalls]

I actually saw that, and I was gagged.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was gagged, too, girl.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, SpongeBob and Patrick Gay asses. You know, they be sitting out watching Drag Race, honey.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, the sponge hasn't quite had the impact of Ms. Vanjie. Okay, is Ms. Vanjie dying out?

[Naomi Smalls]

Oh, yeah. Tell us. Was Ms. Vanjie really prominent at the reunion?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it was. There's like. I mean, not the reunion, the finale. There's, like, a whole thing about the finale, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And are the fans still featuring Vans?

[Monet X Change]

I think fans still are. I feel like, for us, like, we've been doing it since we recorded the show, which was back in October, so it was a little tired for us now, but I think the fans are still into it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, is Vanessa sick of hearing it yet?

[Monet X Change]

I'm sure she is, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you still love getting sponges?

[Monet X Change]

I do. I love getting sponges also, but I love the creative ways that people find things to do with it, which is the full gag. Someone made me a sponge cake the other day.

[Naomi Smalls]

Did you eat that?

[Monet X Change]

Hell, no.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I eat that Shit,

[Monet X Change]

not in that way. I just. First of all. Cause, you know, you don't know how other people prepare their food. Have you ever seen that video of that lady making brownies? It's like this, like, viral video, this lady making brownies in her kitchen, and meanwhile her fucking sassy, the cat is all walking on the counter, all brushing his fucking tail on the fucking Saran Wrap like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, we will post the video of the cat on our Facebook page. Or Monet's Facebook page. It's called something.

[Naomi Smalls]

Monet will Instagram it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Exactly.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I probably will.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

There. Goddamn. There was something I really wanted to talk about just now, but I now edit around this chunk of me trying to remember what the hell I was trying to say.

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Keep it in.

[Naomi Smalls]

Keep it in. This is.

[Monet X Change]

Here's the thing, though. I mean, Bob loves to edit out all of his fumbles, but he keeps all of mine in there. So I look and sound crazy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, that is Monet.

[Naomi Smalls]

What else is he going to put in there?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If I take out your fumbles, it'll just be me talking to myself.

[Monet X Change]

You're not funny.

[Naomi Smalls]

Am I the first guest?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, our first guest was Mateo. Oh, you.

[Monet X Change]

No, you know. No, you're not. Noah and his boyfriend with our first guest.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that's right. Noah and Amadeus were our very first guest. Then Mato Lane and then you.

[Monet X Change]

No, we know we had someone else.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who?

[Monet X Change]

You know what? I'm thinking about all of the interviews we did. Nevermind.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We've interviewed most of the girls from the eliminated girls from season 10.

[Monet X Change]

We haven't got Monique or the vixen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monique or the vixen. Or Cracker.

[Naomi Smalls]

Why not? Or Cracker. Did they say no?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Or we just. Girl, I couldn't get fucking Monet on the phone until now.

[Monet X Change]

Bob, stop trying to make it seem like it's all my fault. Bitch, it be you too.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I didn't say it was all your fault. But you did forget your microphone yesterday. And then at dragcon, you was too busy stoning your. Completely covering your gown in stones. Every inch of your gown was covered in stones

[Naomi Smalls]

and every inch of your booth was covered in foil.

[Monet X Change]

Girl, Naomi. We were both in that same dragcon boat. Bitch.

[Naomi Smalls]

It was a lot, that dragcon.

[Monet X Change]

It was a lot.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, can we talk about the debacle of dragcon? Cause Monique Hart went on her Instagram live and was like, look at this.

[Monet X Change]

Did you see this, Naomi? No. Girl, she loves.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Talk to America. America. This is not stunning America.

[Monet X Change]

You know, with the whole debacle, the booths, how they would not done. So you. Like eight, nine of us had the same booth designers. So Monique, she had say their name.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Say their. No, she had too big. No.

[Monet X Change]

She had been told that her booth was not ready. So on on her way, walking into the convention on Friday night, she's like, america, I've heard that there's some shenanigans going on at my booth and trust and believe I will be going live to. To just let y' all know and voice my opinions about exactly. About how I feel. Sure enough, she got inside, and all she had was a red wall and a white table. She got on her. On her. On her. On her Instagram Live and be like. And she said the company's name, she said the CEO, the project manager. And she was being almost. It was everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She put their phone number out there, she called out addresses, she gave their blood type, she gave their mother's maiden name. The last four of their social.

[Naomi Smalls]

Instagram Live is something I never got into. And it's probably for the best. Cause I don't say the best stuff when I'm unfiltered.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, here's a great story. So we were being Facebook Live for the episode of, like, right before we post Drag Race, they were interviewing us. Can I tell the story?

[Naomi Smalls]

Yeah, you can tell it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And they were like. So at the very end of the interview, they're like, all right, so tell us about. So, thank you. So say goodbye. And I say, thank you so much. If you enjoy this. My name is Bibi Zahara Beney. And then Kim said, and I am Manila Luzon. And then Naomi Smalls said, and I am Sahara Davenport from the grave.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God, Monet.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everyone in the room just looked at each other like, what? We were like.

[Naomi Smalls]

I was young. I said a lot of stupid shit when I was young.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Me and Kim just stood up and walked away. Cause we did not know. We were like, we don't know what to say. We don't know what to do. We don't know where to go. We were so scared. Mom, I'm scared.

[Naomi Smalls]

They gotta be. Wait. I say really stupid shit under pressure. I don't know what it is. And that was like, just a night

[Bob the Drag Queen]

that I was like, there's a lot of pressure.

[Naomi Smalls]

There's a lot of pressure.

[Monet X Change]

Even right now. That's a horror devil.

[Naomi Smalls]

I feel like I'm not talking very natural, that is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, you're talking. But that was bananas.

[Naomi Smalls]

That was bananas. I'm so sorry to everyone had to hear that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, can we just give a big thanks to Naomi Smalls, for joining us on our podcast today.

[Naomi Smalls]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you for joining us.

[Monet X Change]

We love you. I have to say, I have to be honest. You are one of the girls. You are the Drag Race girls who, after your season, like, sponsored, I guess is the word. Like, a whole way of doing makeup. Like, for season nine, it was Valentina. I don't think we have one. Season 10, but you were definitely that the girl. On season eight, everyone tried to do the Naomi brows and Naomi eye. How does it feel to be a beauty icon?

[Naomi Smalls]

It feels great. I never thought that I have a face that's, like, really easy, I think, to replicate, and I think a lot of people caught on to that, but I don't, like. It's kind of, like, hurtful to see, like, these young kids who look way better than me because they have no pores and they haven't gone through anything in life yet. I do not. It's an honor, but. But I'm always trying to change it up, and it's kind of hard to do it when there's so many people that look like me.

[Monet X Change]

Well, Bob always. Bob loves to make fun of your eyebrows. How do you feel about that? Now is your chance to let him know how you feel.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What else about Naomi's eyebrows?

[Naomi Smalls]

That they're so long?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, they're huge.

[Monet X Change]

That they long and that they tie in the back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah, they meet in the back. Naomi's eyebrows say meet me at back. What did Naomi's eyebrows say? To the left one, Meet meow papa.

[Naomi Smalls]

And what did Bob's makeup say? Not me.

[Monet X Change]

I think that Bob's makeup is the first time someone's makeup hasn't ran away from their face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's so shady.

[Naomi Smalls]

Good makeup doesn't run.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is back to the crack. She's cracking. No. But thank you to Naomi. Thank you for listening, listening, and. All right, peace, everyone.

[Monet X Change]

Bye, Bob. You in that crunchy little kiss your finger peace sign thing. It is so old and so geriatric.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Bitch. You're old, you're crunchy, you're wacky.

[Naomi Smalls]

I love the gag that you knew exactly that he was doing it at that moment too.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, girl. It literally gives me. I can't even watch him do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, you're crunchy and lame. I don't have no time for you. I am lit, I am fierce, and

[Naomi Smalls]

I am fresh with your fully encrusted ass gown. I started Ornod in 2013, and we make bike apparel.

[Monet X Change]

The best part of Shopify for me is our ability to run the business

[Naomi Smalls]

as essentially non technical people. We're able to admin everything on the back end, front end and sell things online easily. If Shopify were a bike accessory, I think it would actually be the bicycle. It's the thing that you do the thing on. We run the business on Shopify. Start your free trial on shopify.com.