The One With Peaches Christ

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry – The One With Peaches Christ

Release Date: November 29, 2023
Hosts: Bob the Drag Queen & Monét X Change
Special Guest: Peaches Christ

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Episode Overview

This episode of Sibling Rivalry welcomes San Francisco drag icon Peaches Christ for a lively, candid conversation with Bob the Drag Queen. The episode dives deep into queer drag history, pays tribute to late drag legend Heklina, covers wild showbiz stories from Provincetown and beyond, and features tons of laughter and heartwarming moments about chosen family, drag lineage, and the evolution of the art form. Peaches and Bob swap tales from their years performing together, including Bob's adventures touring with Madonna, legendary drag shows, and the hilarious, sometimes chaotic, reality of drag life on the road.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Remembering Heklina and Drag Family

• [03:43] Peaches discusses her decades-long partnership and friendship with Heklina, their bond, and the void Heklina’s passing has left in the San Francisco drag community.
  • “I moved to San Francisco and met her immediately and we started working together. So that was in 1996.” – Peaches Christ (04:21)
  • Peaches was offered some of Heklina's ashes but declined, preferring to remember her through memorabilia.
  • Bob and Peaches riff on whether they would want each others' "cremains" or just the costumes when they pass.

2. Bob’s Adventures on Madonna’s Tour

• [08:47] Peaches expresses pride and joy at seeing Bob perform with Madonna, reflecting on what Madonna meant to her as a queer icon.
  • “It brings me so much fucking joy to see you on tour with Madonna.” – Peaches Christ (08:16)
• Bob describes the spectacle of the tour, including wearing the Marie Antoinette outfit and handling an original Gaultier cone bra.
  • “At the top and the end of the show, I'm wearing her infamous Marie Antoinette outfit, which, by the way, Glenn Close wore before she did.” – Bob (09:59)
• Discussion about the cultural impact of Madonna, her advocacy for queer communities, and her unapologetic approach to controversy.
  • “She put queer sissies of color on stage with her prancing around at a time when no one was doing that.” – Peaches Christ (13:49)

3. Drag Lineage and Mentorship

• [18:31] Bob discusses her 'drag aunts and sisters' (Peppermint, Sherry Vine, Bianca Del Rio, Bebe Zahara Benet) and why she never had a drag mom.
• The origins of Bob and Peaches’ working relationship, starting with Peaches casting Bob in “Return to Grey Gardens” and a mutual admiration for comedic, smart drag.
• Peaches explains her approach to queer parody and being authentic to her own drag storylines, including why she didn’t parody The Color Purple.

4. Legendary Drag Parody Shows

• [23:20] They reminisce about San Francisco drag, Peaches' "Midnight Mass" series, and her tradition of writing queer parodies of cult films.
  • Notable productions they collaborated on:
    • Legally Black – Bob insisted on the title and pushed for a bold, Black perspective on Legally Blonde.
    • Hokum Pokemon – Custom-written for the cast, famous for the number “Black Cat, Black Broom,” which Bob rapped live.
• Peaches is acknowledged as a launchpad for many drag and theater creatives, and her influence on the careers of queens like Trixie Mattel.

5. Community, Generations, and Drag Herstory

• [32:15] Peaches shares her feelings about nearly 30 years in drag and how quickly time passes.
  • “I don't feel this old. I don't feel like I'm turning 50 years old.” – Peaches Christ (32:33)
• They touch on generational shifts in drag and pay homage to icons of New York’s drag scene: Jackie Beat, Varla Jean Merman, Lady Bunny, Mona Foot, and more.
• Stories from Wigstock and the dynamics between “old school” and younger drag queens.
  • “They cut [Princess Deandra] but they let this go…” – Bob (38:03), reflecting on drag hierarchy and style clashes.

6. Tales from Provincetown Drag Summers

• [40:11] Hilarious stories from performing and living together in Provincetown:
  • Bob’s pranks on Jinkx Monsoon, running fake retirement stunts to sell out shows.
  • Competitive (and comical) flyering ("barking") on Commercial Street to fill venues.
  • The infamous “Bike Incident” with Darren Stein, resulting in one of the episode’s most memorable reenactments:
    • “Darren is being read so hard that the clothes just fly off his body. And he's just standing there naked, shivering, cowering, and Bob's just going at it.” – Peaches Christ (50:59)
• Tales of naked beaches, wild drag roommate drama, and Bob outing Trixie Mattel for bringing a "friend" from Grindr.

7. Backstage Drama and Legendary Mishaps

• Backstage politics and drama in small venues, including the legendary tale of Trixie being outed as an All Stars contestant to a live audience.
  • “Thank you for spending money on an actual talented queen ... Unlike these Drag Race girls ... like Trixie Mattel, who apparently just filmed All Stars.” – Peaches (as told by another queen) (56:20)
• Jackie Beat’s infamous mid-season quitting of Provincetown, the realities of working in tiny, cramped venues, and, in a classic showbiz moment, Jimmy James once being doused in Varla Jean Merman’s … “cooler mishap”.

8. Heartfelt Reflection on Chosen Family and Legacy

• Peaches praises Bob’s talent—on stage, camera, and off—and her pride as a “drag mom” to both Bob and Jinkx.
  • “Both of you have made me so proud over the years. And one thing I want to say to you is, you are so good on camera.” – Peaches (66:31)
• Bob acknowledges Peaches’ generosity and foundational support before Bob’s rise to fame.
  • “You’ve always been very sweet to me when very few people knew who I was.” – Bob (68:43)
• Plans to connect again soon in SF for shows and celebrations.

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Memorable Quotes

• On Drag Family:
  “…would you want her cremains?”
  – Peaches Christ [07:26]

• On Madonna as a Queer Icon:
  “The Blonde Ambition tour … was the first time my young queer ass ever saw any pop star ... come out and say unapologetically that there was nothing wrong with being queer.”
  – Peaches Christ [13:49]

• On Drag Lineage:
  “I did learn from four specific drag queens who I call my drag aunts or my drag sisters …”
  – Bob the Drag Queen [15:57]

• On Drag Show Rivalries:
  “As Bob is reading her, Darren is being read so hard that the clothes just fly off his body. And he’s just standing there naked, shivering, cowering, and Bob’s just going at it.”
  – Peaches Christ [50:59]

• On Legacy:
  “When you sit back, I think at the end of your career….you will be able to be like, I have accomplished so much.”
  – Bob the Drag Queen [68:17]

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Notable Segments and Timestamps

• [04:21] – Peaches recalls arriving in San Francisco, meeting Heklina.
• [08:16] – Peaches expresses joy seeing Bob on tour with Madonna.
• [09:59] – Bob describes Madonna tour costumes.
• [13:49] – Peaches on Madonna’s impact on queer people.
• [18:31] – Bob on drag lineage and mentors.
• [23:20] – Introduction to Peaches’ parodies and “Midnight Mass.”
• [32:33] – Peaches reflects on 30 years in drag.
• [38:03] – Princess Deandra and Dina Martina story at Wigstock.
• [40:11–42:59] – Provincetown, barking, bike incident stories.
• [56:20] – Trixie All Stars outed on stage.
• [66:31] – Peaches on Bob and Jinkx as proud drag children.

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Upcoming Projects and Where to Find Peaches Christ

• Royal Albert Hall Show (London), Dec 12, 2023
• San Francisco Symphony Holiday Show, Dec 15, 2023
  Guests include Bianca Del Rio and Dylan Mulvaney
• For news and tickets: peacheschrist.com (also via her linktree)

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Episode Tone

The episode is heartfelt but hilariously irreverent—full of genuine affection between drag family, raw honesty about queer history, inside jokes, and the occasional lovingly savage read. Both Bob and Peaches are candid, self-deprecating, and quick to lift up their peers as they riff on everything from drag drama to madcap travel to showbiz mishaps. The conversation is engaging, warm, and offers a living oral history of contemporary American drag culture.

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This summary covers all major topics and key moments for listeners who want the highlights or deeper context before diving in.

Transcript

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hey, guys. Again, Bobby Drag Queen. I'm going to be in Atlanta at the Atlanta Symphony on December 30, the eve of New Year's Eve. Please spend your time with me. You can go to seethedragqueen.com to hear some hilarious jokes, and maybe I'll wear, like, a festive Christmas outfit. And, guys, you can catch me in Orlando and Tampa. I'm going to be at the Orlando improv on December 6th and the Tampa improv on December 7th. So if you in Florada, come see your girl, Monet X Change, because I'm retiring these jokes, y', all this year. This is the last time you can hear these motherfucking jokes. So come see me do these jokes in Orlando and Tampa. And y', all, Sibling Rivalry Live is coming to San Francisco at the Castro Theater on January 5th. Now, I know we have had. We swear. We swear this is the final date. We will be in San Francisco on January 5 for sibling rivalry Live. So snatch up these last tickets and sell us the out. My name is Bob the Drag Queen, and I'm Monet X Change, and this is simply rivalry. On this week's episode, we welcome drag legend Peaches Christmas, where I grilled Bob

[Peaches Christ]

all about working with Madonna, and we spilled the tea on what it's like to do Dragon Provincetown.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we found out what made Peach's Christ say this.

[Peaches Christ]

Darren is being read so hard that the clothes just fly off his body. And he's just standing there naked, shivering, cowering. And Bob's just going at it. And we find out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And her, like, hand was to her mouth and her eyes were wide. And she was like. And I was like, oh, wow. Wow. Nene. We are so lucky to have on the Sibling Rivalry podcast today the San Francisco icon. She is the one and only Miss Peaches Christ.

[Peaches Christ]

Hello. Thanks for having me. It's a thrill to be here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're all Dolled up. What are you all dolled up for?

[Peaches Christ]

For you. Because, you know, I. I thought I owed it to you to come in full geese to be on the Sibling rivalry podcast. I've been waiting for years and years to be on this show, so. But the actual truth is I have to do some videos after this to promote some shows.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, you remember you and I did. You and I did a Patreon exclusive years ago. It might have been during the pandemic. You and I did, like a Patreon exclusive audio only podcast. Yes, the. For the. For. So if those of you who are real, true silver friends, you can go back into the. The deep annals of Silver rivalry and get an audio only version version of the podcast between me and Peaches. For those who don't know Peach's Christ is. I'm gonna go ahead and say the most. You are, I would say. I say you're the San Francisco drag queen.

[Peaches Christ]

I say now that you know, Hecklina died.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My God. Jesus Christ.

[Peaches Christ]

I mean, it's not really a question anymore, you know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So for those of you who don't know, there was a moment where you could make an argument that the Sarasota drag queen was Hecklina. Hecklina did meet her untimely demise. She was besties with Peaches. Christmas for years. Very much. You know, Jinx and Dela, Heidi and Jada, Bob and Monet, Peaches and Hecklina. And how long were you two, like. How long were you two, like, professional buddies?

[Peaches Christ]

Well, I moved to San Francisco and met her immediately and we started working together. So that was in 1996. Wow, that's a long time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And you're. You're from Pennsylvania, right?

[Peaches Christ]

No, I grew up in Maryland. I went to school in Pennsylvania.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's right. University of Pennsylvania, right?

[Peaches Christ]

No, that's where. That's where the smart people go. I went to Penn State University.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Isn't Penn State a really smart college, too? I went to Columbus State University. I can't talk shit about nobody's school. I didn't even finish.

[Peaches Christ]

I mean, it's not. It's so University of Pennsylvania is like Ivy League. And Penn State University is considered a very good state school.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And that's like, where all the football players are. But there was, like, a whole thing with the. There was like a whole thing.

[Peaches Christ]

Yep, that's right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

With the coach and the players. Right. Like something weird.

[Peaches Christ]

There was some molestation.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. Penn State got to get their shit together, honey. Ever since you left, it's been downhill. Ever since you left in 96 that's true.

[Peaches Christ]

When I was there, things were fine. And then when I left, it all went to shit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Peaches, Christ, her best friend, Heck Lena, passed away just this year, actually. Just this year. And you two were on. On tour together in the UK at the time?

[Peaches Christ]

Yes. I mean, do you want me to tell you the story?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, of course you can. I mean, I don't want you to relive anything that you're not comfortable reliving, obviously.

[Peaches Christ]

Well, I mean, you know, it's. I. You would think that I would get asked about this all the time because it was such a big sort of event, not just in my life, but, like, you know, it was like a newsworthy event. But I think because death makes people uncomfortable for obvious reasons, people don't really ask me about it, and I don't mind. Certainly you and I talked about it, you know, right when it happened, and I talked to close friends about it. But the truth of the matter is, to this day we still don't have a death certificate from London, so we don't. Actually, I can't tell you exactly why she died because they're still determining that, which seems odd to me and strange. She died in April 3rd and it's now almost December. Right. So that seems crazy, but basically I was. What's that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Where's her body?

[Peaches Christ]

She was cremated in London and brought back. So her ashes, her cremains are here in the States and they were divvied up amongst, you know, different loved ones.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you have any?

[Peaches Christ]

You know, I didn't. I didn't take any. I was offered them, but I just didn't. I don't know, I didn't feel like I needed that. And I felt like it was kind of. Kind of like an extra burden. And honestly, I have so many amazing, you know, things that remind me of Heck Lena. You know, costumes and artwork and show posters and photos and videos that I just. I don't know, it kind of creeped me out a little bit. What would you like? Let's say you found Monet dead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Fingers crossed. No, I'm kidding. Kidding.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah. Would you. Would you want her cremains?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No. I don't know that. I don't know that I would want her cremains, but I would definitely want to. I do feel like I should have first dibs at all of her costumes. I honestly, in my heart of hearts, feels like I should, like, legally have first dibs at any of her costumes that I want to keep as keepsakes.

[Peaches Christ]

Would you say that? Would really up your wardrobe.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You know, if I'm being fully honest, me and Monet are not quite the same size anymore. She has gotten quite skinny, so it would just be for. It would just be for memory's sake. But any of her stuff back when she was thick, yes, I would take those things. Anything she wore on Drag Race I could fit. I'm sure. But she is a whole new woman. Honey, I'm working it out. I'm trying myself. I'm trying here.

[Peaches Christ]

I mean. Okay, can we just. I know that you're talking to me and asking me questions, but I just want to say to you and to the listeners, as someone who's loved you for a long, long time, it brings me in such a rocky year that I've had. Speaking of, heck, Lena's death, you know, it's been such a year of ups and downs. But it brings me so much fucking joy to see you on tour with Madonna. It's surreal. I'm still not used to it. It's so wild and like, where are you now and how's it going?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm in Milan right now, which is a show. We haven't. We haven't done a show yet. But I've been looking forward to the show because Italians go crazy for Madonna. They love Madonna. Madonna. So I'm told this is going to be our craziest show yet, which I'm very excited about. I'm excited to see the fashion here in Milan, I would say. When I walked the streets of Paris, I was like, wow, these people really look like, like, like fashion. Like everyone. They all look like fashion students and like, you know, some sort of a upper crust people, just a normal people walking the streets. And you're coming to see us at the Chase arena, right?

[Peaches Christ]

Yes. Yep. Have our tickets and everything.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, I can't wait. Oh, this is going to be. And I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to talk to you backstage before the show. I cannot. I can not wait for you to see this show. I'm so, so proud of it, and I'm really proud of the show. Really.

[Peaches Christ]

It looks okay. So I've been kind of, like, not wanting to look at clips because of spoilers, and I, you know, know that I'm going to go see the show. But of course, there are things that come across my feed where I see you out there with Madonna, who is so teeny tiny, and then standing next to you. It's kind of hilarious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she is this big, especially, I mean, spoiler Alert. At the end of the show, I'm wearing at the top. And the end of the show, I'm wearing her infamous. Her infamous. Her famous Marie Antoinette outfit, which, by the way, Glenn Close wore before she did.

[Peaches Christ]

Wait, but you're not wearing the actual

[Bob the Drag Queen]

one, Peaches, come on. Of course not. Fun fact. That dress is like, they don't know where it is. It got sold at a private auction, so no one knows where it is anymore. And they tried to get it back. They tried to get it back for this tour to look at, but the guy. Just. The guy could not be contacted. What's up, Jacob? Can you tell Peaches about the cone

[Peaches Christ]

bra for the Pride show?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because that was wild. Oh, so. And by the way, we will get back to heckling and pay our respects to her. But as you can see, Peaches and I both go on tangents. So when we did the Pride show, I had an original Gaultier bra that I was using as a prop. And they were like, just put it in your suitcase. They're like, but. They were like, but don't leave my. I had a suitcase prop, too, but they were like, but don't leave your props overnight. So I had an original Gaultier bra in my hotel room, just sitting there

[Peaches Christ]

with one that he designed for her

[Bob the Drag Queen]

with the tag in it still.

[Peaches Christ]

So why did you have it? I mean, obviously, I was using it

[Bob the Drag Queen]

as a prop during. During the thing. I opened a suitcase and I pulled out, like, a bouquet of flowers. I put out a veil. I pulled out the cone bra. I pulled out a banana. Things that, like, have signify. An eye patch thing that signify, you know, Madonna from. From throughout the years.

[Peaches Christ]

Right, right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pulled out the. The. I don't know if it was the original, but it was one of the original cone bras. Like, it was. It was older than me.

[Peaches Christ]

You know, that's something I actually have seen in a museum, because here they did it all over the place. But there was a Gautier exhibit, and at the end, there was a whole section on Madonna, and they had, you know, different comb rolls and things that, you know, he had designed. So, like, you were kind of. It's almost like you were carrying the. The holy grail of gay artifacts on your body.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I met Gaultier because Gauthier was our guest in France, in Paris. He was. He was. He was a guest on stage. And honestly, he was. It was just amazing. And. And I. I'm not even kidding. I think that Gote may have done his best work on. On this tour. If you look at the outfit that Madonna's wearing for Vogue. She wears like a. I think she has, like, three or four that she's done now. They keep rolling out this. These outfits that she's wearing for Vogue. Are I legit? When you get up close, there isn't. When you see, like, like, true. Like, hot couture. Like, when you see, like, true. Like, when you get this close to it, you're like, oh, this is literally on a different level. Yeah, this is like. This is like. I've literally never seen clothes like this before. It's that. It really is that crazy.

[Peaches Christ]

Well, Bob, I have to tell you, truth or dare, like, seeing this happen for you and being, you know, close friend of yours has been so. Just been so incredible because. And I'm older than you, so I know that you and. You and I have talked about this a lot. Like, our pop culture references are different. The thing about Madonna is that she spans so many decades, right? So for me, you know, her doing like a prayer and me growing up Catholic and her being banned by the Catholic Church and being fired by Pepsi three times, you know, yeah, she kissed a black saint in a music video. And all of that shit was amazing. And then that tour, that Blonde Ambition tour, which, of course is documented in Truth or Dare, was the first time my young queer ass ever saw any pop star, any queer icon, anyone of her level, of her stature come out and say unapologetically that there was nothing wrong with being queer. And not only that, but she put queer sissies of color on stage with her prancing around at a time when no one was doing that, nobody was doing that, you know, and she's a hero, you know, to me especially. So to get to see you perform alongside her is just, you know, it's just amazing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're right. I. I'm. I've been seeing her impact as I. As I travel the world with her and recognizing some of the truly. And I guess it's going to end up being the one about Madonna, the truly remarkable thing that she does. You know, there's this old clip, this guy, this guy. She's, like, doing some news or, like, with something with mtv, and she walks into a record store, and this guy, this random guy, just goes, hey, you're Madonna. And he's like. She's like, yeah. He goes, I have some nude photos of you. Like, I have, like, your nude photos from when you were, like, 16. Do you want. Do you want. Do you want. He was like, do you want to buy them from me? And she was like, no, not really. He goes, but what if I release them? And she was like, well, then maybe you can make some money, but I'm not going to buy them. I'm not going to buy them off you. And then I think like the next year she was like, if you're in a threat and release my nude, I'm going to fucking do a whole book. I'm going to release my own nudes, right? I'm going to, I'm going to take pictures of my own pussy. I'm going to put pictures of my pussy and I'm going to monetize it. I'm going to sell it and it's going to be like, it would have been like, I think, like it would have been a New York Times bestseller book. They weren't allowing it to be sold in New York Times. It was like, it was like a whole thing.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And she, and she also was the first person to release a music video on VHS because. Because MTV refused to play the video. They just would not play it.

[Peaches Christ]

Guess who was first in line to buy that VHS tape?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Peaches girl.

[Peaches Christ]

And I had to hide it from my mother.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm screaming, I have two copies of Madonna's sex book and I need to get her to sign it eventually. I haven't. They're back at home. They're back. Jacob has them.

[Peaches Christ]

You know that like people like me are going to annoy you for the rest of your life wanting you to talk about this experience.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know, I'm happy to talk about it. I mean, it's terribly exciting for me. I'm more than happy to talk about this. So fun fact for you all. So I grew up a wayward drag orphan, so to speak. I didn't have a drag mom, but I did learn. I want to say out loud that I did learn from four specific drag queens who I call my drag aunts or my drag sisters. Peppermint Sherry Vine, Bianca Del Rio and Bebe Zahara Benet. I watched these queens in New York City and just took in everything. I mean, I learned a lot about how to just put on a kick ass show from Peppermint. I learned how to deliver a joke and truly do a level of professionalism from Sherry Vine. I learned how to be cutting and biting from Bianca Del Rio. I learned how to be a diva from Bebe's a Harborne. But I never. But neither of them were ever my drag moms. In fact, you know, I'll tell you more about my relationship with these women after this break.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, so we're back. So, so. But I never asked anything to be my drag. Although, although BB will. BB nowadays will like say that she's my, my mom, but I know. Hear me out, Peaches. Hear me out before you, before you, before you go. Go fight her. But, but you know, Bianca, Sherry and Peppermint really are my, my. My. My older sister. They are my, my Dr. I mean Pepe is not much older than me actually. Bianca and Sherry considerably older.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, considerable.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Considerably older than me. But when I was on the tour with Peaches. So first time I worked with Peaches, Christ was for Return to Great Gardens with Jinx Monsoon. This is before I was on Drag Race. Did you hear about me, by the way?

[Peaches Christ]

I heard you on the Feast of Fun podcast way back when.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, Feast of Fun.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, it was a long time ago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Wait, did you ever take my drama with Feast of Fun?

[Peaches Christ]

You told me about it. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know if I ever aired out. I don't know if they know that. I. So when I was preparing for RuPaul's Drag Race, Feast of Fun was doing a show called Cooking With Drag Queens, and they wanted to come to my house and do Cooking With Drag Queens with me. And I was like, sure, but I gotta let you guys know, I'm really busy. Like, this is, like, as crazy I was preparing for Drag Race, I didn't tell them. I was like, this is the busiest I've ever been in my life. So my home was in shambles. And then they went back to Chicago and told everyone that I was a hoarder. Like, several people came up to me, were like, oh, yeah, Mike and Fausto told me you're a straight up hoarder. And I was like, yeah, my apartment was crazy because I made, like, 23 costumes in two weeks while preparing all this stuff in wigs. Yeah, my apartment was crazy. But I didn't think they were going to go back to Chicago until everyone, I was a hoarder. So I haven't spoken to them since then.

[Peaches Christ]

Well, you know, I, I, I actually have no clue about that because they never said that you're a hoarder to me. But, but, but besides that, I'll always be grateful to them because they were introducing me to all these people, you know? You know, because they interviewed so many different queer folks. This is before Drag Race. Before, you know, a lot of the Internet had as much queer connection as it does now. And so you were on their show, and I remember listening to you and just being like, this is smart and funny and clever, and I want to work with her. And I basically just reached out to you shortly after that and said, hey, I'm coming to New York with Jinx Monsoon, and are you available to play a Jackie Onassis type in this show? Basically, you played Bob the Drag Queen, but it's as if you're the Jackie O, you know, archetype in the show. And of course, you showed up. You were a total pro. And I felt this sort of easy, I don't know, connection to you pretty immediately. Like, I just, I knew I would like you, and then I fell in love with you, and then. And then the rest is history.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, we got along like gangbusters pretty much immediately. And, yes, you're right. Malcolm Fausto interviewed a lot of queer people. They're great. Yada, yada.

[Peaches Christ]

His name is Mark. Not Mike.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Mark. Mark Fillion and Fausto Furnace.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mark Fillion. Yeah. And Fausto Furnace. You're right. They are. They. They have done. And because, you know, I actually learned about a lot through them as well, including my dear friend Matteo Lane. I. I found out about Matteo Lane through the Feast of Fun podcast because Mateo's from Chicago, and. And I reckon they knew each other from. Because, you know, Mike and Fausto are. Mark. You saying Mike, Mark, Fausto are Chicago gay royalty. Yada, yada, yada. Anyway, that being said, after that, I got pretty much short. Shortly after we worked together, maybe like a year later, I got cast on RuPaul's Drag Race. And then I. I was. The first show I did with you, was it Hokum Pokemon?

[Peaches Christ]

No, I don't remember if it was Hokum Pokemon first or Legally Black, which.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which, by the way, Peaches did not want to call it Legally Black. I demanded. Peaches was like, we have to call it Legally, Legally Bob. And I was like, no, Peaches. I'm only doing it if we call it Legally Black. And Peaches had to go out and be like, just so you guys know, this is Bob's.

[Peaches Christ]

That's. You know, you were right completely. But there were a couple things that you were pushing me to do. Okay. Just so the listeners know, when Bob and I were discussing me creating a show for Bob, which is like, you know, there's queens that come along that I'm so inspired by.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We should tell them. We should tell them, like, your. Your main thing in San Francisco. For people who don't know, the Peaches, like, is most known for two things. Midnight Mass, which is these midnight showings of horror films at the. At the. The.

[Peaches Christ]

The Castro.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Castro Theater. And also these parodies of shows. She would do these, like, write these gay parodies of shows and then cast, you know, basically queer celebrities in them. Everyone from. Everyone from Bob the Drag Queen, Jinx, Monsoon, Mink Stole. Have you had Margaret? Margaret Cho, Steve? I mean, everyone you've had. You've had. You've had them all.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah. So I was gonna write a show for you, and we were tossing around ideas, and I'll never forget, like, you wanted to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah.

[Peaches Christ]

You wanted the Color Blurple. And I was kind of like, okay, you should do that show. I just don't feel like I. You know, and I genuinely obsessed with the Color Purple. Like, I totally, totally love both the book and the movie, and I actually love the musical, and they're making a movie of the musical, but I feel like some of the stuff, what I do is. Is tend to take things that are transgressive and. And underground and kind of make fun of them and warp them and queer them with the Color Purple. One, it's, you know, not really my story to tell. Two, it's already queer. You know, it's about a queer woman. And three, it's subject matter is too serious.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, very dark.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, it's too dark for me to

[Bob the Drag Queen]

kind of make it clear. It's like a black camp. Classically. It is camp.

[Peaches Christ]

It is.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It is sad, but it is so camp. And I have a friend who watched Color Purple for the first time and was like, the way that black people talk about it, I thought it was the comedy. Because black folks are always saying, like, you show is ugly. You told Hopo to beat me. And they were like, I didn't realize it was a. It was my. My mom watched Rent. She said, I watched a trailer. The trailer for the Rent movie was singing. They were like, who? Hey. Oh. And she's like, I watched it. And I was like, this is sad. Everyone's dying of aids. This is crazy.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But Peaches very wisely was like, do the Color Purple on your own.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes. But then I pitched the idea of doing Legally Bob to you because a bunch of people had asked about Legally Blonde. And I rewatched the movie, and I remember saying to you, that movie is so white. Like, it is just so white. What if we did something, you know, kind of transgressive, where we retold it, but through a different lens? And then you, of course, said, I insist that. That we call it Legally Black.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And honestly, it was honestly one of my favorite shows that we. That I've seen. I mean, I'm Maybe I'm biased and I've seen a lot.

[Peaches Christ]

No, me too. I love that show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So fun. And by the way, I. Peaches is here to let you all know because. Because a couple of episodes ago, Kim Chi swears I've never called her and wish her happy birthday or anything. Which is crazy because I've been at like two of her birthdays in a row, back to back. And then one time, I literally just of my own volition, flew to Portland, Oregon to. Just to. For surprise. I surprised Kimchi. I only told Peaches I surprised Kimchi to watch her and Willem and who else?

[Peaches Christ]

Laganja.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Laganja do mean gays or what?

[Peaches Christ]

I can totally vouch for you. You and I were talking a few weeks ago, and you said that I don't remember what you said, but basically that Kim, she was like, acting like you're, I don't know, selfish or that you haven't done anything to support her or something. And I am the first to say, Bob is so sweet. And it. And that was really for Kim. You kind of made it clear. You were calling me, going, like, I'm thinking about flying out there and surprising Kim. And you did it. You flew out to Portland, you know, from wherever. I don't remember where you were coming from.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was in New York City at the time.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah. And you put yourself up and you came to the show. So Kim really owes you an apology.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. Thank you. And Monet was just up in here.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Queen and her. And I was like, y' all is wild. They are, like, wild for that. But that aside. So after traveling with Peaches Christ. Because we. We did travel together, me, you, and Jinx. Because you do. If I recall, your circuit used to be. You do a weekend run in San Francisco and then we go to Portland

[Peaches Christ]

and then Seattle and then la. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In la. Yes. And we did. We were doing a run of Hokum Pokemon, which was also very fun. It was me, you, and Jinx. Such a great. That was a great cast. You've done this show several times with several different. With a few different casts.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah. But, you know, you. I rewrite it for whoever's doing it. And you have one of the best numbers of any iteration of Hokum Pokemon. Because we did curse first.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Curse first. Yes.

[Peaches Christ]

And I love that number.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I need to release it for like, Black cat, Black broom.

[Peaches Christ]

Yep, you do. For Halloween, girl.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I just remember doing writing Black cat, Black broom, Black broom, you fly to the room. Honestly inspired. Truly inspired. And I. And I wrapped it live, which was hard because. Which I don't know why insist on rapping it live, because when I wrote Purse first, I didn't consider. Because I was lip syncing. You can't. There's no breaks. It goes straight from chorus to verse to chorus to verse to bridge. There's nothing. So I was. I remember being so winded. And I'm up there dressed like Kathy Najemi.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

In a corset. Which, by the way, you work with a couple of different people.

[Podcast Advertiser]

Who are the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who are the designers you work with?

[Peaches Christ]

Well, at that time, I think that show was done by Amy Sarazan, who's now gone on to be the full time employee of Trixie Mattel's Sweatshop. So, you know Amy. I lost Amy to Trixie. But at the time, Amy had done Hokum. Hokum.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I feel like you've launched a lot of careers for. In terms of like. And also one of your Light guys works for Obsessed now.

[Peaches Christ]

Oh, really?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What's his name? The one who always wears the tiny shorts and he does the lights.

[Peaches Christ]

Oh, yes, Ray Light.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Ray Light, who wears. By the way, I don't care what. It could be December in. In Norway, Ray Light is going to wear these. Get it? Girl shorts.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes, yes. She. She's always in like tiny little hot

[Bob the Drag Queen]

pants and now she's fucking doing lights for Obsessed. Who. Who did me and Monet's tour. So Red Light did the lights for Sibling Rivalry. We went on tour and does the lights for Trixie and Katya and. And just Trixie just stealing all your. Stealing the big blonde hair, the big makeup. It's. Yeah, we need to send a cease and desist. It's getting kind of creepy.

[Peaches Christ]

Well, you know, I met Trixie when she was just a little child. She was 18 years old. And we went to Milwaukee to do all About Evil. When I made my movie, I went on this sort of cross country tour with the movie. And so Mink Stole and me and a bunch of people went to Chicago and Milwaukee and in Milwaukee, we were working with. At the. At the Oriental Theater, I think, and we were working with the Rocky Horror cast. And there was this kid in the cast dressed as this mummy and was in our show. And I remember, like, compared to the rest of the cast, she had the most talent. And so I was like, what's your name? And she said, trixie. And then we became Facebook friends and I'll send you the picture. But there's this insane picture of she and I backstage and. And she's barely wearing any makeup. And I said to her, you need to wear more makeup and the rest is history. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

How does it feel? Okay, I have a question because I'm not quite at your level of queens who are solidified in their not quite as you because you're really like a woman of a certain age.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes. Okay, I see you're not quite as

[Bob the Drag Queen]

old is what you mean, but I'm not quite as young. And I realized that when I go back to New York City, a lot of folks who were like, oh my God, Bob the Drag Queen. And I. Or I go to these bars and I realize, like, I only. I only know one person who works there now. You know what I mean? And like, there's. There's all these drag queens. I don't know, I, like, don't know any of them. Is there a moment for you when you are like, I have been doing this fradel. How long you been doing drag?

[Peaches Christ]

Well, since 95. So it'll be 30 years soon, next year.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's wild. One, two years. That's. That is wild. That, like your 30 year drag reunion. Like, how does it, how does that feel to you? Are you, Are you, like. Yeah, that's pretty par for the chorus, I think.

[Peaches Christ]

It feel like, you know, you grow up and you hear old people talk and they always say these things that are like, you know, I don't feel old and I can't believe, you know, life is, you know, wasted on the young and, you know, things, you know, move as quickly, I don't know, the blink of an eye and all that shit that you hear, but when you're young, you just hear it. And then when you get my age, you go, oh, my God, it's all true. This is so weird. I don't feel this old. I don't feel like I'm turning 50 years old. You know, I mean, I did start doing drag in college, so I was pretty young, you know, so I'm not quite as old as, you know, some of the people. I get Jackie V. In a flattering way. You know, I'm lumped together with people like Jackie and Varla, but they're actually about a decade older than I am

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and will always be. And we'll talk about that when we get back. And that's on period. Honey.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

So when I think about the queens who are, like, from this certain era and. But you're all from a kind of a similar era. Even though some of you are, like, literally, like RuPaul is about 15 years older than you.

[Podcast Advertiser]

You.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you're kind of from a similar era, which is funny because even though I. I'm 37, you're 4. How old are you? 48, 49.

[Peaches Christ]

I'll be 50 in a few weeks in January.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I'm so. So I'm about 10, roughly, like 10, 12 years younger than you. But we have, like, an overlap. But because you're a little bit older, you and, like, RuPaul and Jackie beat have this overlap. Oh, my God.

[Peaches Christ]

You're.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're the Gen X. You're. You're. You're. You're. You're. No. Yeah. You're a Gen Xer, right?

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, so I'm a younger Gen Xer. So, you know, Jackie Varla. I mean, I'm definitely Gen X, but culturally, and. And, you know, that's the. The. The generation I for sure identify with. You know, I grew up grunge, and even drag was grunge, you know, when I started. But I idolized, especially because I grew up on the East Coast, I idolized. Well, first I was, you know, introduced to drag through Divine, you know, growing up in Maryland and Frank N. Furter watching the Rocky Horror Picture Show. But then when I was, like, trying to find drag queens that were doing stuff, I found Jackie Beat, Lady Bunny, Flotilla DeBarge, Floyd. I don't know if you know who Floyd is, but Mistress Formica, you know, they were all the New York queens.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mona Foot.

[Peaches Christ]

Mona Foot. Oh, my God. Rest in peace. All right. Yeah. We lost Mona Foot during COVID Yeah. You know what, Bob? You were there. I idolized those queens so much. And then I've had the pleasure of getting to work with a bunch of them and be friend. Be friends with a bunch of them. But there's some that I'd never met. I'd never really gotten to work with them or we met in passing, but something really cool happened, and you were there for it, which was the. The sort of remount that Neil Patrick Harris did of Wig Stock in New York with Bunny. And that was amazing because everyone was there. You know, all of those people. Lip Synca was there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that was iconic. Can I tell. Can I tell us? Can I tell a story? So at Wigstock, some of the earlier girls had gone over. Jackie Beat, some of the earlier girls had gone over. So the girls who were later in the show, their time was getting significantly shortened, and they kept coming back to Heck Lena, Rest in Peace and Peaches Christ and being like, we're pushing you back. We're shortening your time. We're pushing you back. We're shortening our time. We're pushing you back. We're shortening your time. They even cut the mic off on Amanda Lepore. Amanda Lepore is in the middle of her song. You can find the video. She gets so mad, she just throws the mic in the air and it just lands behind her, right? And. And they end up cutting completely. This legend in New York City, her name is Princess Deandra. She is an absolute. I mean this.

[Peaches Christ]

She is legendary.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Truly. Like when you think of a drag queen, it's her. This is. This is who you're talking about?

[Peaches Christ]

Well, like flawless old school. And I mean that in the best way. But like flawless old school drag, incredible.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She also is quicker, is just the quickest wit. She would. She had some shoe wearing lucky Changs. And so, so many of the saying that we said lucky Changs are all stuff from her. She would say. She would always say, what can I get you all to drink today? And don't ask for nothing hot. Don't ask for nothing. No, nothing hot. Nothing cold. And don't ask for no goddamn mojitos. That was like an official saying at at Lucky Chains. Nothing hot, nothing cold. And don't ask for no goddamn mojito. And she would always. Whenever she wanted to get paid, she'd go, I need my shekels. Run me. My shekels and vittles. My shekels, my vittles. She was. She really coined that phrase. But anyway, they cut her.

[Peaches Christ]

Were you there for the showdown around all that, baby?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Was I there? So they told her that she wasn't going to get to go on. She is over it. She's had it. She's letting. She's calling them everything but a child of God. Left, right and into her defense fair. She had been there. She'd given her whole day to this. Yeah, she giving her whole day to this. But then when they get down once the. What's that queen's name from. From. From P Town. The really messy one who's. Her whole thing is being messy.

[Peaches Christ]

Liza.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she's like. She wears. She always has her backs busting out. Oh, Dina Martina, Dina, Martina, Dina Martina goes on and does a bit. That's like 10 seconds.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She goes, some say love it is the road. That's like the whole bit.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah. Then she goes, thank you and walks off.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. And then. And then Princess Deandra goes, they cut me. But they let this go. And she points to Dina Martina, who by the way is Dina Martina does skag drag. It is intentionally skag drag. It is booger drag. It is just like. It's intentionally ugly drag. So you have this like flawless diva being like, they cut Me for this. And the in. If it was the office, the camera would pan over. Dina Martin would be like. And y' all just Google Dina Martina. Put a picture of Dina Martina up on the screen and you will get an idea of why it is just such a hilarious visual.

[Peaches Christ]

And Dina Martina obviously is completely in on the joke because, you know, the whole character is ridiculous by design. But the thing is, is that character and what Dina does, in many ways, is as bizarre as it sounds. It is elevated drag. It is. She's operating on a totally different level, you know, in plays to really brilliant, smart audiences. But I love the idea of Diandra not really being familiar with Dina Martina and just looking over and seeing that come off the stage, you know,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

like, what the fuck is this? So I've been trying to say this while. So when we were on tour together, I. This was on the Hokum Pokemon tour. And I love me and Monet both. One of our favorite pastimes is getting Jinx Monsoon riled up. It's so easy. It is so easy. So we shared a dressing room in Not Fire island in P Town for a summer. Me, Peaches and Jinx and. What was that? That buff, good country singer's name?

[Peaches Christ]

Oh, my God. It'll come to me in a minute. Steve.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, he's this, like, buff country singer.

[Peaches Christ]

Very sexy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And. And we were sharing this room with him, and Peaches was actually in, like, another room. So me and Jinx were never in the room at the same time unless we were, like, crossing over. And like, this one, Jinx was, like, not doing well. She was like. She was. She was like. She was probably a little too much. Do you remember one time, volunteer, she goes. She goes, well, I figured out the problem. I just don't. I just don't drink anymore. And then she goes. This time it'd be easier because I don't. I don't drink anymore. And. And then someone goes, well, you had a drink during the show. Yeah, well, if someone buys me a drink, I'm going to have the drink. And you also had a. You had a drink before the show. Well, I have to have a pre show drink. So I do drink once before each show. And you're drinking right now? Well, I drink after the show.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So it went from, I don't drink anymore.

[Peaches Christ]

That's because Varla, much like Bianca, is from New Orleans. And so their concept of drinking is so different than any other person's. If you're from New Orleans, your. Your idea of what it means to be drinking is different than the average person.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That tickled me. So Jinx was. Jinx was not in a good mood. And, like, even just the fact that we were just laughing, she would get. If we were just laughing, she would just get so irritated. So one day it was. I was doing three shows a week while Jinx was doing, like, five. She was doing, like, two with Peaches and three by her. Three individual shows by herself.

[Peaches Christ]

So she.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She had, like a Monday through Friday schedule, basically, but it was probably, like, Saturday, Sunday, who knows? Five shows a week. I was just doing three. So my shows were all selling out. We were in the same theaters that it was at the Art House. It's this. It's this dual. It's like an old movie theater. It has two theaters in it, and they're both going on at the same time, actually. Or I was, like, slightly staggered.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And my shows are always sold out because I was doing barely any. I was doing just doing three shows a week. So they were all sold out. But then. So they were like, if. If the rule in P Town is if your show is not, like, 95% showed, you have to go paper, which means you. You hit the block and they call it.

[Peaches Christ]

It's so far. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You go out there and you bark and you have to fucking. You, You. You. You see drag queens, burlesquers, strippers, singers, comedians, all on this. On the avenue, handing out, trying to, you know, barking. Trying to get. Come to their show. Lady Bunny famously will not bark. She will hire someone to bark for her, but she will not bark on her own. And then I never had to bark. But one day I was like, I'm gonna go bark. I sold, like, 95%. I want 100% sold. So I went on the. On the Avenue and I'm handing out flyers, and I got in front of Jinx and I told her when I said, hey, guys, today's my last show. I'm quitting drag today. This is literally my last show. Everyone goes, you're going to quit each other? Yeah, I got. I'm actually going to law school. I got accepted into law school and I'm quitting drag, so I'm not doing drag anymore. So, guys, if you want to see my last ever show, please come. So by the time they're getting to Jinx, Jinx, like, come to my show, and they're like, I would, but this is Bob's last show. Yeah, they're all. And they all keep saying Jinx. I would come, but this is literally Bob's like, last show, she's doing her show, the Ginger Snaps. I always remember the show she was doing. And then she. So. She's so. She's so furious. And then I did my entire show.

[Peaches Christ]

That I remember.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, yeah? Do I remember? Yes, she. Because we were in that. We were. We were in the dressing room laughing because we thought it was funny.

[Peaches Christ]

I got, like, roped into it, thanks to you, because you and I were kind of cackling about everything. And, like, I got in trouble. Like, guilt by association.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, me, you, and Kani, we were all laughing about it. And I think it was our. By the way, I just want to point out to everyone that Jinx's show was still sold out. Jinx. It was not. It was not an empty crowd. Jinx was doing perfect. I did not hurt her business. I mean, each room holds, like, 100 people, maybe at the max. And then so she got mad at us. We kept laughing. I was telling the story because I don't think Peaches was there when I was telling Peaches the story. And then we were just cackling about it. And Jinx is like, well, get that guy. So fucking funny. And we were like, whoop. And then she got so mad because her show goes on before mine. I think she must have said this or heard this, but after my show, at the very end, I was like, the crowd. I got, like, a standing ovation. I was like, honestly, you guys are such a great crowd. I can't quit. I'm coming out of retirement. I said, you know what? You guys are such a great crowd. I'm going to come back and do it again tomorrow.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes. She was really, really over you. Like, not in a joking way.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, she was not joking.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah. She yelled at you? She yelled at me. Oh, Lord.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we continued harassing Jinx when we did the Hokum Pokem tour. And this is what really got Jinx crazy, because I kept being like, jinx, who's your drag mom? And Jinx was like, I don't have a drag mom. I mean. I mean, Peaches is kind of my mom, but I don't really have a drag mom. And I said. And so I went to Peaches. I said, oh, you're Jinx's drag mom. And Peaches said, well, she's never formally asked me. And I said, well. So I kept egging. I said, well, Jinx, you're not her drag daughter. Like, you have to ask. That's how everyone knows. Everyone knows how drag works. You have to ask someone to be A drag mom. So if anything, you're kind of just like a. Like a weird kid in the neighborhood who won't leave the house. Like, you're not really her drag daughter. You're kind of like. Just like an annoying kid in the neighborhood. And Jinx can be like, I'm her drag daughter. And then I asked Jinx to be my drag mom, and then Jinx said, you know, Peaches. I asked Peaches to be my drag mom also. Because I truly. Because I admire your work and what you. And the way you were able to create these. You're a true workhorse. So. So then I was telling Jinx. I was like, well, actually, Peaches is my dream.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If Peaches would come out and be like, it is true. Bob is my drag daughter.

[Peaches Christ]

Oh, my God. Yeah. But that's not. What put it over the top was when you declared it on Twitter and pointed out that Jinx was not officially my drag daughter.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What a troll. What a troll. But then. But then. Then she did officially put in an offer. Peaches, were you present for the prom?

[Peaches Christ]

The Provincetown bike incident? Yes. Yes. That was with my friend Darren Stein. I was actually very involved in all of that because I had asked Bob if we could borrow. If we could borrow Bob's bike. Bike. While Bob was, I guess, away briefly. Like, Bob left Provincetown to go do another.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was just there Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, and I would come. I would come back every Tuesday, every Monday night, and I would leave every Friday morning.

[Peaches Christ]

Okay. So. So basically, Darren Stein, the writer and director of the movie Jawbreaker, amongst other movies, is a dear, dear friend of mine. He also produced my film All About Evil. And Darren was visiting me in Provincetown, and Bob was leaving, and so I said, oh, could Darren use your bike while. While you're gone? And Bob said, yes. And so Darren. And Bob also picked up on the fact that Darren. Do you remember that, like, you. This is so fucked up. You were walking with Darren on Commercial street during Carnival, which is like this crazy parade, and you would, like, hold his hand, and if he, like, sort of pulled his hand away, you would. You would do this thing where you kind of sort of snap and look at him and be like, are you embarrassed to hold my hand in public? What's wrong with you? You don't want to hold my hand? Do you remember that?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Peaches Christ]

You are. You are a terror. And then Darren did break your bike, and I guess he didn't really tell us that he broke it. And then you came back and the conference the showdown between you and Darren, really just you confronting him was one for the history books.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, all these stories made me sound crazy, which I'm not saying I'm not crazy, but what happened was Darren. Darren borrowed my bike. And in. In borrowing the bike, he broke my bike. Broke the seat. By the way, I'm renting this bike. This is not my actual bike. This is a bike that I'm renting from this bike shop in town. I've rented it for the whole summer. And when I got back, my seat was, like, fucked up. I couldn't even sit on it. It was, like, wobbly. I mean, it would, like, fall over and fall off. I was like, oh, my God, my seat is broken. And then I text Darren. I was like, darren, did you break my. My. My. My. My bike? Did you break the seat of my bike? And he was like. He was not responding. And I was like, tell me, did you break my bike? Like, I'm the bike. I met the bike and it's broken. Did you do this? And he would not respond. So then I found out that he was at Jinx and Kenny's place watching a movie. So I am, like, riding my bike furiously trying to find this place. It is raining. I can't even sit on the bike. The bike is broken. If I sit on it, it's going to ride up the old Bibli Bobbly. So I am in the rain, pedaling, trying to get this bike, and I walk into the house, and I was like. I remember. I remember they were all eating ice cream or you guys are eating ice cream or something.

[Peaches Christ]

We're watching a movie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Watching a movie and eating ice cream. And I swear. And I was like. I was like, darren, did you break my bike? Like, did you break my bike? And just put it back without saying anything? And he was like. I was like, did you? Because my bike is broken. And you did not say anything. It's like. So you. You knew my bike was broken and you did not say. You just put it back? Were you ever going to tell me? And I don't think he ever said a word. I think he just was just kind of just standing there.

[Peaches Christ]

It was like, you know, when someone. It was. It was as if Bob marched into that house. All of us were like, kind of like. Because it was, you know, this, you know, like the door, you know, flew

[Bob the Drag Queen]

open and then crashes.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, lightning's crashing. You know, Bob's covered in, like, rain and, you know, grime and grit and, you know, the wind is howling outside and poor Darren, like, stands up and is cowering, you know, And Bob is like, did you break my bike? And as Bob is reading her, Darren is being read so hard that the clothes just fly off his body. And he's just standing there naked, shivering, cowering, and Bob's just going at it. And finally Darren just flew through the wall and was, like, laying on the lawn outside.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And then. And then I finished the movie in his place and finished his. His Chunky Monkey ice cream. I think me and Darren are cool. And I saw him somewhere recently. Wasn't it somewhere with you or maybe somewhere. No, At Bianca's, maybe.

[Peaches Christ]

I feel like we did. And, you know, I.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He.

[Peaches Christ]

I will say this. I don't bring up the bike incident to Darren. I think it gives him ptsd. I think I brought it up once and I could tell that it wasn't something. He's still not ready to joke about

[Bob the Drag Queen]

it, but he was probably like, bob, you know what? I have been called confrontational by many people, but in my defense, he broke my bike. And I. And I think. I think I ended up paying for it or fixing it or something. I don't remember. Maybe he offered. I can't remember it. I was. I was so annoyed that my bike was broken. I was like, this is so upsetting. It's so fudgeing. Annoying.

[Peaches Christ]

You remember? There was something else. I just popped into my head in P town when you and I. And maybe it was Luis, I don't remember. But we were going to, like, a beach, and we got caught in this sort of, like, tidal pool that came up around us, and we have to carry our stuff over our heads.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I wasn't there for that one. That was. That was. That was because Luis was hanging out with you all. Because I didn't go to the bog or walk through this.

[Peaches Christ]

I have a video of you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was there for this one.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes, I have a video. I'm gonna send it to you. I have a video that I took of you. Of you, like, trying to get through this marsh.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, no. Yes, I know. I remember going through. I remember going through the marsh. That I remember vividly.

[Peaches Christ]

Okay. Yeah, it was like. Like a crazy adventure. All because we were heading to the beach where there were, I guess, naked people.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, the naked beach. Yeah, I remember going to the naked beach one time. And do you remember? I might be. I might be doing too much here. I think I'm doing too much here. Do you remember Trixie's friend?

[Peaches Christ]

Which one?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That guy. Trixie was like. Trixie was. I probably shouldn't be saying this was

[Peaches Christ]

it when I was living with Trixie.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Maybe I'll tell the story and then we'll decide if I should keep it in. So we got there, and Trixie was like, oh, this is. This is my friend. And I was like, oh, okay. How do you guys know each other? And she's like, we went. We went to college together. And I was like, you guys went to college together? Because he was older than her. I was like, you guys went to college together? And she was like, yep. And I was like, oh, okay, sure. And then I asked him. I was like, what do you do for a living? He was like, I'm a lawyer. I was like, you're a lawyer? You went to the University of Wisconsin? Do they have a law program? And he was like, yeah, yep, I'm a lawyer. And I went to school with Trixie. And I was like, okay, you know what? Sure. I don't go to that school. Maybe they did. So I just kind of, like, let it go. We kind of beep, beep, boop. Then we all went. Decided to go to the beach. And then Trixie left, but her friend was still with us, and we gave him our information. We're like, okay, we'll give you. You know, send us your information. Like, give me. I traded numbers with him. I was Trixie's friend. I'll trade numbers with him. And then down the line, I found out that that was not Trixie's friend. That was a guy she met off Grindr. But she was too embarrassed to say it, so she was just like. So she was like, he's my. He's my friend. So now there's just this, like, random guy who ended up being like a. Like a drag race. Like, has my number to this day. He's probably listening to this podcast. And I was like, trixie, why didn't you just say. She was like, I was embarrassed.

[Peaches Christ]

Oh, my God, I do. I forgot about that until the. The. The punchline. Yeah. You know what? It's funny about Trixie. For as outrageous as she is, and she is. And she's so hilarious and crazy, she also could be, like, a little bit shy and conservative, you know? Yeah.

[Podcast Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She was like. I was just. I was just too embarrassed. One of my favorite beautiful stories. I was not there for the story, but would you please tell the story of Jackie Beat forcing you to get tickets to her show?

[Peaches Christ]

Oh, my God, no. I'm going to get in trouble. I'm not telling that story. No, I mean, I. My favorite story. And I'm. I'm completely deflecting my favorite story. And you're such a bitch, because you know that's going to get me. That would get me in trouble. My favorite story related to P Town and Trixie, or maybe one of my favorite stories of all time is the story of when Trixie was performing at the Post office. And the older queen that was doing a show before Trixie's talked about just shit about Trixie and then proceeded to open the curtain. And this venue, the dressing room is right behind the curtain. So Trixie is sitting there shirtless, putting on her face. Queen is talking about her. She's sitting there going like, God, that kind of sucks that she's talking shit about me. And the Queen is saying things like, thank you for spending money on an actual talented queen who's put her time and energy into the business and has earned her, you know, her reputation as a. As a professional drag entertainer. Unlike these Drag Race girls who go on Drag Race and, you know, become famous overnight. You know, like Trixie Mattel, who apparently just filmed All Stars, which of course, you know, you're not supposed to talk about at all. And Trixie's, like, fresh return from shooting All Stars. It's not out in the public yet that she had shot this show. So that's. That's like faux pas number one. Then the Queen says, hey, you want to see her? She's here. She's just sitting right back here. And the Queen pulls back the curtain, and Trixie turns and looks and is, like, watching the audience who are staring back at her, putting on her makeup.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Mortified. Yeah, I would be mortified.

[Peaches Christ]

You've heard that story though, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, Trixie's told me. The story is so good. Trixie, the way Trixie, she was sitting there just like.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hunched over, shirtless in panties, like, what the fuck is going. P Town is such an odd place. There's an old video years ago on Jimmy James's YouTube page of Jackie Beat quitting P Town in, like, the middle of the night.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, she snuck out, and I think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think it was on Jimmy James. I can. I cannot find this video anymore. But it's Jackie B. Be like, I'm done. I'm done. I don't need this. And it was back when she had. When she had her waddle before the hip surgery. And just watching Jackie Beat, like, I just remember being like, P Town is going to be. Because it was either like, Fire island or P Town. Fire island is a much more.

[Peaches Christ]

No, it was P Town, it was legit. That was a legendary thing. And that's why when Jackie Beat went back to P Town, years later, her show was called Never say Never.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm screaming. And is this a show where you may or may not have.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, that's the show. Okay. One other thing about that venue, the Post Office, where Trixie was with the Queen. Reveal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's called the Post Office because it used to be the actual post office.

[Peaches Christ]

It's a teeny, tiny venue. I mean, all the venues in P Town are small. And that venue in particular is a very small one where it's basically one room. It's upstairs. The dressing room is behind the stage.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You.

[Peaches Christ]

You have to get into the dressing room, like, before the show, before you starts, or else you're not getting into the dressing room. And once you're in the dressing room, there's no bathroom back there. So there's another great story from years before where Varla, Jean Mirman and Jimmy James were sharing that space. And Varla was on stage and Jimmy went to get something on a shelf and didn't realize Varla had pissed in a. In a cooler. And Jimmy knocked the cooler over on herself and doused herself in Varla's urine and then was stuck back there covered in Varla's piss.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, my. That's crazy. Gina Merman is, like. She's, like, known for singing opera and hitting the high notes. And Jimmy James is known for two things. One, a Marilyn Monroe impersonation that was apparently impeccably flawless. And also the. You may have heard the song Everybody Line Up. The show was about to start and it goes. Sean John Calvin Klein, Donna Karen's fashion line. That's. That's Jimmy James, the song Fashionista. No, that is. That is. That's disgusting.

[Peaches Christ]

That's show business, darling. People think that it's, you know, all glamour and being on tour with Madonna, but the reality of it is some of us have to really get down and dirty and work in the trenches.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

One time we were doing some. Maybe like a drag queen Christmas tour or something, but me and Naomi were on tour together, and Naomi was, like, sick to the point where she couldn't swallow. You ever had a throat. Your throat was so. So you couldn't swallow? Yeah, so she just could not swallow or just hurt. She had a sore throat and it hurt to swallow. So she. She was, like, spitting into this starburst bag. Like, she kept spitting into this bag over and over and over again because she couldn't swallow. And she was carrying it around. And then I. I was like, oh, girl, we have some candy. I said, oh, let me have some of these. I grab the bag and it just oozes. I mean, sinus infected, just like all over my hand. And she was mortified, but I was like. I was like, girl, don't worry, I got you. I took it, I threw it away. I washed my hands, I cleaned the area. I said, baby, feel better, baby. She was. She was mortified.

[Peaches Christ]

At what point did you realize what it was?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It was. It was when I looked back at her and she. And her, like, hand was to her mouth and her eyes were wide and she was like. And I was like, oh, wow. Wow. We should one day do a screening of one of your films on the Patreon or one of the live. Or even one of the live shows. Maybe. Maybe.

[Peaches Christ]

You know what movie we should do, Bob?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What movie?

[Peaches Christ]

I don't even know if you know about this one. I have a Truth or Dare parody film.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I did not know about this. You mean.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes, I made it years ago. It's called Spin the Bottle and you know it's a parody of Truth or Dare. I wonder if you would. I wonder if. I don't know. I don't know. I'll send it to you and you let me know what you think.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Work. You know, we recreated the Truth or Dare spin the bottle scene. It was me and a bunch of other celebrities and I didn't even know what was happening. Madonna just kind of like.

[Peaches Christ]

Was that the thing with Amy Schumer?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was the thing with Amy Schumer, yes.

[Peaches Christ]

Awkward.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Amy Shimmer. She was there. That is true. She was right there. Right there next to me. She was across from actually. But also we could probably show them to Bring It On Queen.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you see? You have. You have versions of all your. All your.

[Peaches Christ]

I do, yes. I love that show. That's one that we did with Monet. That was the first time I ever worked with Monet was for Bring It On Queen, which was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was a good. That was a really good show.

[Peaches Christ]

It's a really, really fun show. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Would you ever do that Little Shop parody that I wrote and sent to you years ago?

[Peaches Christ]

Yes, I think we should. I would love to co write a show with you. I think that would love that. Let's do Little Shop. The, the, the, the. The reason I'm reluctant to do parodies of musicals is because it gets tricky. Legally, it's harder to make them true parodies because you're using the music, and you're parodying the music. Whereas for my shows, I'm parodying a movie. I'm using a bunch of different pop music that were, you know, lip syncing or singing, you know, but when you do a musical, it's a little tougher.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, Peach, thank you so much. Oh, is there. Is there anything you want to let us know? How. How is. How are things going with your endeavors? Where can people find you? What's going on with. With. With Peaches Christ right now?

[Peaches Christ]

Well, I'm actually getting ready to. I just finished writing the script for our show at the Royal Albert hall in London, which is insane that I do a show at the Royal Albert hall with conductor Edwin Atwater. It's the same show that you've done with us in San Francisco, but we're doing it in London on December 12th. So if you're in London and you can join us, it's with myself, Legateau, Chocolatier, Bag of Chips, Carrie Ellis, Anna Lapwood. It's gonna be fantastic. And then we do this, the San Francisco version of the show with your drag and tea, Bianca Del Rio, and with controversial trans superstar Dylan Mulvaney. Although I don't think she. I don't find her controversial.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought you were gonna. I thought you're gonna say someone else. I was like, oh, God. We said controversial. I was like, oh, God, I wonder

[Peaches Christ]

who you thought it was.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I thought you would say Sharon Needles. I was like, what?

[Peaches Christ]

No.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus Christ.

[Peaches Christ]

I mean, I guess. Would you. I don't even want to say controversial. Dylan Mulvaney is not controversial. That's the thing. That's what's so ridiculous about it all. You know, these idiots.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She sparks controversy.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes. Anyway, so Bianca, Dylan, and I do. And Edwin and a bunch of other people. Sister Roma, Kylie Menono, we do our San Francisco Symphony show on December 15th. So those are the things I have coming up.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So, yeah, go check peacheschrist.com.

[Peaches Christ]

yes. Actually, that's where you want to find me. Peacheschrist.com.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

yeah. We're going back to websites. No one's doing social media anymore. We're all going back to websites now.

[Peaches Christ]

I know, it's interesting. I'm actually getting mine overhauled yet again. I do find. You know what I use a lot is link tree. Because if you go to my link tree, the link tree will have the direct link to, like, you know, Royal Albert Hall, San Francisco Symphony, you know, just everything is there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Also, you all doing the show with you is how I ended up kind of. I Think it might be a part of how I got on the show Tales of the City.

[Peaches Christ]

Oh, really? Oh, that's amazing. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because when I. So I wrote a poem called Sandra Claus.

[Peaches Christ]

Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I performed. And I also did a little bit of conducting.

[Peaches Christ]

Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Armistead Maupin was there, and Armistead Maupin wrote Tales of the City. And then, like, less than a year later, I was cast in the Netflix reboot of Tales of the City with Olympia Dukakis, Laura Linney and Elliot Page and Fortune Feimster. Yeah.

[Peaches Christ]

And I will say, there's a lot. I will say this. I have. I have more drag children than just you and Jinx. But, of course, you and Jinx are the most famous. And both of you have made me so proud over the years. And one thing I want to say to you is, you are so good on camera. Like, you are so good and on stage. I mean, and everyone thinks of you as comedy. But I got to see you in Angels in America, and, like, you're just so talented, Bob, and I'm so proud of you, and I'm so excited for your adventures. And I know that I tease you a lot, but I just wanted to say how much I love you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love you, too. You're very sweet. And you have honestly extended a very generous hand to me when very, very, very, very few people knew who I was, which I greatly appreciate. I think that your show might be the first big crowd I ever performed for in drag. I think your show at that college we did, Baruch. Yeah. Was the first big show, like, theater show I'd ever done in full drag. So thank you for that. And I know I've told a lot of stories about me teasing people, but I'm really not that bad of a person. I swear, the more I tell all my stories, I'm like, I am. Am I the drama? Am I the drama? So I love you. I'll talk to you soon, Peaches.

[Peaches Christ]

Bob, one last thing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes.

[Peaches Christ]

You're going to be in town the Madonna concerts at the same time as our revival of the Terror Vault show the Initiation. So we're doing that at the same time. So there's a way to get you to come see our show. Let's. We'll talk offline with Jacob and everything, but I would love to see if we can't make that happen. I want you to see the show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I would love that. Because I've never got to go to the Terravault or so. Yeah. Peaches is y'. All. Peaches is honestly, doing so much stuff, it's kind of crazy when you sit back, I think at the end of your career, which will probably be soon, at the end of your career, you will be able to be like, I have accomplished so much. All right, Peach, thank you so much for joining me today. I love you so much. Thank you for being you. Just, you've always been very sweet to me. You've always been kind to me when very few people knew who I was. So thank you so much.

[Peaches Christ]

Thank you, darling. Love you.

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