The One With Peppermint

Summary

Sibling Rivalry | The One With Peppermint (Nov 2, 2022)

Episode Overview

This episode reunites the dynamic drag duo Bob the Drag Queen and Monét X Change with special guest Peppermint: beloved performer, trans activist, and RuPaul’s Drag Race alum. The trio delivers their signature mix of irreverent humor, candid storytelling, and inside looks at queer nightlife. Centering on Peppermint's new R&B "Lovers Live" tour and her creative evolution, the conversation zips through tales of NYC cabaret, wild nightlife exploits, drag industry observations, and the power of authentic storytelling through music and live performance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Peppermint’s Viral Outfits & Instagram Shopping (02:22–05:18)

• Peppermint describes how an outfit she wore to "Queer Black Man on Broadway" drew major social media attention. She shares a love-hate relationship with Instagram as a shopping platform—praising indie vendors but warning of sketchy sellers.
• Bob the Drag Queen adds, "Instagram is actually better because you can buy from small businesses... but some of those small businesses are not real businesses." (03:17)
• Monet jokes about fans bringing bootleg merch to shows and the odd industry around unauthorized drag queen merchandise.

2. VMAs Adventures & Reality TV Section (08:03–14:29)

• The trio recounts their experience at the VMAs, where they were grouped in the "reality TV" section—physically behind the main stage with obscured views.
• Memorable Moment: "They reeled out a TV and plugged it in and said, this is what it looks like. Complete with commercials." – Peppermint (10:13)
• Despite the seating, Bob excitedly recounts being emotionally moved by Nicki Minaj’s set and admits to crying during "Moment for Life." Pep’s quick to document the moment on video (13:13).
• The group raves about the unexpectedly fantastic chicken tenders at the Prudential Center.

3. Documenting Drag & Social Media Struggles (13:40–15:47)

• Peppermint describes the pressure and intention behind documenting events for social media, noting it can be draining despite appearances.
• Monet praises the ease of voiceover video trends—making brand work more manageable.

4. Cabaret: Histories, Memories & NYC Nightlife (17:28–28:51)

• Bob launches into a playful “Cabaret” musical reference, leading to stories about the iconic musical and NYC’s famed nightlife.
• Pep talks about working at the Kit Kat Club and partying at Studio 54, providing a vivid snapshot of ‘90s nightlife, drag, and the building’s transformation from derelict warehouse to club mecca.
• Notable Quote: "Bunny had a DJ booth on her own... the rumor was she had an ad in the back of the Village Voice... 'the DJ with the BJ’s'..." – Peppermint, on Lady Bunny’s legendary status (20:56).

5. Peppermint’s “Sex Tape” Story (22:45–24:19)

• In a standout, candid story, Peppermint reveals she unknowingly ended up on a new club surveillance camera during a steamy stairwell hookup:
  • "I didn’t know there was a surveillance camera... I was going to town. And I was like, I had a sex tape. I made a sex tape. I couldn’t believe it. Never again." (22:51)

6. Explaining Cabaret & The Box (25:55–31:16)

• The conversation shifts to what defines cabaret and the unique, edgy acts at NYC institution, The Box.
• Bob details a jaw-dropping act by Rose Wood, involving a massive prop and fearless performance art. “When she stood up, everyone was like, oh. And she was on it the whole performance.” (30:19)

7. Notorious Performers & Cabaret Legends (31:49–36:07)

• Discussion of cabaret artists like Narcissister, who was rumored to never show her face and performed an act dressing herself entirely onstage from hidden places: “She would fully accessorize, and she’d start completely naked and be fully dressed... coming out of her body in different places. And it’s genius.” – Peppermint (35:56)
• The trio joke about the secrecy, mystique, and rumors surrounding such queens.

8. Peppermint's Music & "Lovers Live" Tour (36:42–53:23)

• Pep explains "Lovers Live" focuses on live R&B—eschewing typical drag spectacle for musical authenticity and stories of Black trans love and joy.
• "All we hear is trauma. Let’s sing about us being loved... I wrote music about a relationship that was beautiful and healthy." (38:20)
• The tour supports the trilogy "Letters to My Lovers," with each album exploring relationship narratives and self-acceptance.
• Peppermint reveals the opening acts for the November tour, extolling her collaborators and reminding listeners where to get tickets.
• Bob and Monet celebrate the growth of R&B within the drag community and advocate for more genre-diverse drag tours.

9. Drag, R&B & Creative Identities (41:43–44:58)

• They contrast the fun but surface-level club tracks with the emotional depth of R&B songwriting.
• Bob credits Peppermint for being a “great lyricist,” highlighting her song "Best Sex" and “A Girl Like Me," hailed as a moving anthem for queer love and resilience.

10. Microdosing, Psilocybin & Gift Suites (55:04–58:46)

• A spontaneous tangent: Monet shares a story about legal psilocybin (mushrooms) in Vancouver’s gifting suites.
• Pep and Monet reminisce about ransacking event gifting suites, from Kindles to luxury weighted blankets.

11. Friendship & Working Chemistry (58:27–61:07)

• Heartfelt banter emphasizes the fun and synergy Peppermint brings to gigs ("one of the funnest people to work with"), and Bob and Monet’s desire to collaborate more often.

12. Name Origins & Drag Family Ties (59:47–60:49)

• Peppermint details her evolution from “Peppermint Gummy Bear” to “Peppermint,” recalling her “divorce” from her former stage name and adjusting her persona accordingly.

13. Childhood, Family, and Pranks (62:12–68:40)

• The talk turns to family, childhood antics, and Black family norms around pranks (or the lack thereof). Peppermint shares a traumatic-but-funny story about being terrorized by her babysitter after watching the "Thriller" video.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On bootleg merch: “Cease to sell, but don’t desist. Give it to me, bitch.” – Bob the Drag Queen (05:07)
• On the VMAs seating: “They wheeled out a TV and plugged it in and said, this is what it looks like. Complete with commercials.” – Peppermint (10:13)
• On viral club hookup: "I didn’t know there was a surveillance camera… I made a sex tape. I couldn’t believe it. Never again." – Peppermint (22:51)
• On cabaret: “Cabaret relies on the back and forth between the audience and the people. There’s actually cabaret awards in New York.” – Peppermint (26:23)
• On the “Lovers Live” tour: “It’s not a drag show. It’s about the music… straight up R&B, live music with a band. That’s what it is. It is cabaret.” – Peppermint (36:42)
• On R&B and drag: "I would pay money to go to a drag show, a tour that is just R&B groovy, like vibey music. I would love that." – Monet X Change (42:37)
• On Peppermint’s lyricism: “You’re a great lyricist. You have some really great lyrics. I really, really love your song Best Sex.” – Bob the Drag Queen (44:58)
• On the surprise of gifting suites: “We got Kindles. Girl, we got… weighted blankets—like $820 for this blanket!” – Monet X Change (57:27)
• On childhood pranks: “No, no, we never had pranks. I was just sitting there talking to myself in the corner.” – Peppermint (63:26)
• On name changes: “Peppermint Gummy Bear was my last name in the ’90s… but I wanted to be, like, a little sexier, you know, after that blowjob in the stairwell.” – Peppermint (59:47)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Peppermint on viral Instagram outfit: 02:22–05:18
• VMAs reality TV section story: 08:03–14:29
• Cabaret and NYC nightlife legends: 17:28–28:51
• Peppermint’s “sex tape” story: 22:45–24:19
• The Box and Rose Wood performance: 28:51–31:16
• Narcissister’s magic act: 31:49–36:07
• Peppermint’s “Lovers Live” tour details: 36:42–53:23
• Psilocybin/gift suite story: 55:04–58:46
• Name change & drag history: 59:47–60:49
• Family and childhood pranks: 62:12–68:40

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Summary Tone & Language

The episode is heartfelt, raucously funny, and fiercely queer, with the trio riffing off each other in their characteristic styles. Peppermint is open and witty, Bob is sly and playfully critical, and Monet’s quick with a joke and the occasional shade. They move effortlessly from industry commentary to deeply personal stories and hilarious nightlife memories, always in the spirit of community and celebration.

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For New Listeners

This episode offers a spectacular balance of drag industry revelation, nightlife history, hilarious mishaps, and sincere reflection on queer artistry. Whether you’re a Drag Race devotee, NYC cabaret enthusiast, or someone curious about the intersections of drag, music, and personal expression—this conversation will leave you both laughing and inspired.

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Peppermint’s “Lovers Live” tour runs throughout November, with ticket links at Peppermint’s socials and peppermintonline.com/events.

Transcript

[Bob the Drag Queen]

My name is bob the drag queen.

[Monet X Change]

And I'm monet x james.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And this is sibling rivalry.

[Monet X Change]

On today's episode, Peppermint tells us about that time she made a sex tape.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We talk about cabaret, and we find

[Monet X Change]

out what made Bob say this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, was it Girl Scouts being like, buy some psilocybin so we can go camp? Like, what was it?

[Peppermint]

And we find out what made Monet say this.

[Monet X Change]

They're like, don't worry, you guys will have an earpiece. And then someone that you don't know, we'll let you know. But these faulty earpieces from 1972, they would snap, crackle, and pop, and we could not hear what.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Let me find out what made Peppermint say this.

[Peppermint]

I didn't know there was a surveillance camera. They had just installed surveillance cameras in the hallway.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're starting. So you guys know Monet and I just recorded an ad and there was a. So when you use Riverside, there's a timestamp in the corner. Once you stop recording, it does the O. And I got confused. I thought we were still recording. I thought we had been recording still.

[Peppermint]

Heaney.

[Monet X Change]

We have not. Roberta and Peppermint, we are all. The last time we were all three together on Civic rivalry, it was around the time of the election, right?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't remember.

[Peppermint]

Oh, gosh, could that be true? No, it was. It was like 20. No, I feel like I've been on here in 20, 21.

[Monet X Change]

I was still in New York. I was still in New York when we did our last episode. Yes, I recorded all my.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I was in New York, too. Last time.

[Peppermint]

We were both in New York. If it was around the election.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I was in. I was in LA for the election.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, you were in LA for the election. Because. Remember? Because then I. And I took my wand, my J.K. rowling wand, and I snapped it off.

[Peppermint]

Oh, I remember that. I remember that.

[Monet X Change]

Ooh, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we not jk ing Ms. Rowling.

[Monet X Change]

Pep, I always love your background. Your background always feels so ethereal, like you're in, like, some. Like, she's in heaven.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She's floating in heaven.

[Peppermint]

I am.

[Monet X Change]

I die.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Our angel in heaven. Honey, I'm dead. I am dead. Honey.

[Peppermint]

I came back for the podcast.

[Monet X Change]

Pam, I have a question. Do you get into, like. Do you feel. Do you keep up with, like, the Gen Z language Only fans?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, after that. Well, you kikiing. But after what you wore to Queer Black man on Broadway, Miss Thing, you turned Twitter upside down. You turned Instagram into of honey and

[Peppermint]

I'm not gonna be. I'm gonna say I'm not necessarily mad. I'm mad, but I'm also not mad at Instagram, slash Facebook, who owns Instagram. Because that top I wore is something I bought on Instagram. I saw it. It was like, girl. And then I was like, oh, right, click. And I. Okay, now. And I.

[Monet X Change]

Did it show up? Did it. Did it look like what the pictures were? You know, I bought stuff on Instagram that it does not.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Girl, they will like.

[Peppermint]

Instagram is the new wish.

[Monet X Change]

Hello. Girl, I wish I could buy that shirt.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It did look.

[Peppermint]

It did look like it. But I did have to get it. Like, I had to take my clothes, take it to get altered, which is normal.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Taken in, if you will. No, well, I will say this. The thing. Well, the thing about make Instagram actually better is that Instagram has independent merchants. So a lot of the ordering from Instagram is actually, like, actual, like, people. Yeah. So you can Mindy Lamore from, like. Yeah, you can buy from, like, small businesses and people, but some of those small businesses.

[Peppermint]

Some of those businesses are not real businesses.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, maybe sending you crazy stuff, but I've gotten some really, really cool stuff from Instagram as well.

[Peppermint]

I have to. Oh, God. Instagram is the new. It's the new Wish. And it's also the new Amazon. Yes, I do keep up with the. No, I don't keep up with what these kids are saying. What am I saying? Yes.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, do you know there's a picture in my bathroom that I got off Instagram and it just says.

[Peppermint]

It just says.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

It's just like a. Like, words, typography or whatever. And it just says, I have to disagree with Michelle. And it is one of my favorite things in my word.

[Peppermint]

What is that?

[Monet X Change]

Michelle Visage?

[Peppermint]

No, I know, I know, but like, a Drag Race creator did that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I don't know who made it. I just saw it and I was like, this is.

[Peppermint]

People in Taiwan are quick, honey. They will put a quote unloaded.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm just saying I have to before the sentence is finished, you know?

[Monet X Change]

Can I tell you the amount of times I've gone to, like, one of my standup shows or whatever, and fans come with my merch? And I'm like, bitch, I didn't make that shirt.

[Peppermint]

Bootleg ass thing.

[Monet X Change]

I didn't make that sponge. I didn't make that holy. That angelic white. And they'd be like, monet, I got your shirt. I'm like, bitch, if you didn't get it from my website, I Didn't make. I did not make. Why?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You sound like Monique at the end of Precious. See, she got your fucking shirt. You fucking do everything.

[Peppermint]

Who's going to love me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Who's going to shop on my site?

[Monet X Change]

Girl, it happens all the time. And then sometimes it'd be really cute and I'm like, damn, I should have.

[Peppermint]

Damn.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know you can be like, cease, don't desist. Send me a shirt. Cease to sell, but don't desist. Give it to me, bitch.

[Peppermint]

Wait.

[Monet X Change]

What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you see how. Okay, cease. Wait, wait. Cease means stop. What does desist mean?

[Monet X Change]

Desist means cease means stop. Desist means making more.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Is that what desist means?

[Peppermint]

Mm. Oh, no. Stop.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They just made.

[Monet X Change]

I couldn't even keep serious.

[Peppermint]

Cease and desist means stop. And stop really means stop, stop and stop. But stop. And don't do it again. Like, stop what you're doing now. Like Paul. Oh, it really, like pause and abstain. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Which means don't do it in the future. And desist means abstain.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But. But also, when you look up the definition of desist, it says cease. Like, it says. Okay. Me and Monet are constantly showing that we do not know what any words mean on this podcast. Like, that is we. Me and money have made up words.

[Monet X Change]

We and you and I. You and I. Of all. We should definitely what cease and desist means. Because we. We had. We've had to.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Hello.

[Peppermint]

I know y' all have received a few letters or sent a few. Probably received a few.

[Monet X Change]

Did you see that? Dylan o' Brien loved your outfit.

[Peppermint]

Who's Dylan o'?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Brien? Wait, is Dylan Pep?

[Ad Read Announcer]

What?

[Peppermint]

Pap. What is going on? Pap.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This is your chance to read Dylan.

[Monet X Change]

Dylan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's from that show. This it is what he's doing Outfit.

[Monet X Change]

He has that movie.

[Peppermint]

My Outfit.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, Dylan o'. Brien. Dylan o' Brien has that movie. Oh, shit.

[Peppermint]

From. That. From not okay. What's the name of it? Is it good? Is it not okay? Not okay. Is that the name of it? You bitches. You trapped.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He was in the. He was in the. He was in the hit with the song. It's not right, but it's okay.

[Monet X Change]

He's the one.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

He's the one where she goes to that. Oh, my God. Wait.

[Peppermint]

Wait a minute.

[Monet X Change]

Wait. Drama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, it was okay.

[Peppermint]

Sad.

[Monet X Change]

No, I.

[Peppermint]

The one that you have the other night.

[Monet X Change]

I was just in a bit. He did it. I would just see.

[Peppermint]

Oh, bitch. You bitches.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You would not know Dylan o' Brien if he walked up and drop kicked her in the left titty. She'd be like, who is this stranger

[Monet X Change]

who just kicked me?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This complete. This complete non famous stranger.

[Peppermint]

Oh, my God. Dylan o'. Brien. I love him. Monet.

[Ad Read Announcer]

Bitch.

[Peppermint]

You didn't know who he was either, bitch. So shut up, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, so now Pep and I are together. Simpsons. So we were on this red carpet for the VMAs and they. The team at Fairmont, which we're friends with Joe Gerbino and them. And they're like, don't worry, you guys will have an earpiece. If there's someone that you don't know, we'll let you know. But these faulty earpieces from 1972, they were snap, crackle and popping. We could not hear what was going on. But they're like, loud. Yeah, they're like, it's. And we're like. We couldn't hear. So that's why we fucked up on the wall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And to be clear, he's Teen Wolf, right?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, he's on Teen Wolf.

[Peppermint]

Yeah, but he's really the Maze Runner.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, I see.

[Peppermint]

That's what I know him from. So I'm looking a little younger, obviously. That was like 10 years ago. Maze Runner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not okay. Is the movie not okay.

[Peppermint]

That's that movie. And I had it right. But it had just dropped, girl. It had just dropped. Like nobody knew.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, God. Oh, my God.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We had.

[Peppermint]

Next subject.

[Monet X Change]

We all had so much fun at the VMA together. We like. But I will say so Bob Pepper and I were all at the VMAs, sitting down, watching the show. And I genuinely thought they were gonna have us up there with Saucy and Taylor. Bitch. They had us with the most obstruct.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So we were.

[Peppermint]

Okay, don't, Monet, don't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, I'm gonna. On. On. On this podcast, we say the truth. So me and Monet were in. Me, Monet and Pep. We were in the reality TV section. It was me, Pep, Monet, Carrie, Kobe, me from Catfish. The host of Catfish. Were all.

[Ad Read Announcer]

All the.

[Peppermint]

Somebody's agent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, yeah. All the reality TV people were all. So when we. When you go to the VMAs, there are three stages. There's. So let's say the best seat in the house. If you have the best seat in the house, there's a stage there, there's a stage there, and there's a stage there. Now, if you have, like a kind of crummy seat, there's a stage here. Here and there. Because you're next to a stage. Bitch. We were behind Literally behind the main stage. Like, we didn't know we were behind it until the show started.

[Ad Read Announcer]

And.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And we didn't realize the show started.

[Peppermint]

We couldn't see anything. They reeled out a TV and plugged it in and said, this is what it looks like. Complete with commercials. So when we couldn't tell what was going on, they were showing commercials. But we were closest. We were the closest. Let's be. I think for our section, not obviously the whole building, but for, like, the celebrities, the people who got free tickets section. We were the. We were the closest to the concession stand

[Bob the Drag Queen]

because, oh, my God. Can I tell y', all, the Prudential center has amazing chicken tenders. I'm. Right now. I'm not going to hold you, girl. Those chicken. So me and Monet went to. Went to go see Lizzo at the basketball arena in Indianapolis. I don't know what team it is.

[Monet X Change]

The Timberland.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That's Minnesota.

[Peppermint]

That doesn't sound right.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Anyway, whatever the basketball team is. Those chicken tenders. I can barely.

[Peppermint]

The werewolves.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The werewolves.

[Monet X Change]

They were not good.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I cannot in your face tell you. Those chicken tenders. Them chicken tenders, damn. Chicken tenders were terrible. Terrible. But bitch, the Prudential censor. I will go back just for the tenders.

[Peppermint]

Bitch, I will go back juicy. They were baked just at the right. They was, like, fried and baked. Yes, Yes. I don't know what was going on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm getting tickets to a Jon Bon Jovi concert just to get the chicken tenders.

[Peppermint]

I had one chicken tender, and I was like, jake, you gotta go back. You need to go back there. Or Patty or whoever had them chicken tenders. I was texting everybody in the group. Everybody bring back chicken tenders also.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So I was so excited. I was, like, most excited about seeing Nicki Minaj. And I made this. I was joking because Monet went to the concession stand, and I was like, monet's gonna watch. Nicki's gonna start while Monet's gone, bitch. Nicki was waiting for Monet to leave. Monet rounded the corner, and we heard Nicki Minaj start doing. Which song did she start? I can't remember which song she started with.

[Monet X Change]

She started with Roman's Revenge.

[Peppermint]

It was like, oh, yeah.

[Monet X Change]

But here's the thing. But here's the thing.

[Peppermint]

But you were right around the corner.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. So where we were sitting, like, Nikki ended up on that stage where the concession stand was a little bit. And a little to the left of the concession stand, you could fully see the other stage. So I Saw, like, we heard and heard them announce her, and we. Myself and I forgot who I was with Kennedy. We saw, like, her first bit, then we kind of walked with her, and we saw the end of it. But so I saw her.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was really.

[Peppermint]

You were in that seat. By the time Super Whatever came on,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

y' all were officially in the seat. She did all Nikki. Nikki traveled to all three stages, and Monet was there. By the time Nikki got to the second stage, which we literally couldn't see, we were watching on the screen. But I also was really embarrassed because, like, I was just so excited to see Nicki Minaj that I, like, started crying while doing these songs. But. But then I see Pep, and, like, Pep was like. I didn't want Pep to see me crying because I was crying to, like, Moment for Life.

[Peppermint]

I got it on video, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, is it?

[Peppermint]

I was like.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I was like, I could have this.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, my God.

[Peppermint]

Pep, for life. For a life.

[Monet X Change]

You have to give me a. I

[Peppermint]

will send that video, please.

[Monet X Change]

We're gonna put it in the podcast.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And I was like, I don't want Pep to see me crying to Moment for Life. And then I looked over, and I was like, oh, my God.

[Peppermint]

And then I was like, let me

[Monet X Change]

tell you that Peppermint will get a moment. Pep. Pep always got that phone getting a picture or a video or something. Pep is documenting a nice.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But it's like an auntie. You know, when your auntie take a picture, that picture will never see the light of day. Pep is always.

[Peppermint]

I don't take pictures to share them. I just take pictures and keep them Peppy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Be in her house was like, pepe in the house. Like this. It's true, Pep. But you did do a good job documenting Black Queer Night on Broadway. You and Mila both y' all turned those reels around so fast. I was gagged.

[Peppermint]

I was like, well, that's because I intentional. I was, like, very intentional about it. And I don't, like. I realize I don't like doing that, but I was like, let me go ahead and, like, okay, let me take video of this. Let me take a video. And I was, like, trying to push that together. And, you know, it wasn't so bad, you know, but I don't have energy. For real.

[Monet X Change]

The people who. I really do commend people who. Cause do you know how many times I have tried? I'm like, ooh, I'm gonna reel this trip. Whatever. Like, I'm gonna do me getting out the house and getting on the plane and Going to the gig and da da da, bitch. By the time I get to the plane, literally leaving la, I have already forgotten to. To take half the videos I already said I was gonna take. And I'm so bad at it. It's so. My brain is just so shitty. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You look up and you realize I missed a chunk of the narrative. So then all of a sudden it's like, try going shoes. And then you're in the Bahamas, you

[Peppermint]

know, and then you gotta find some way to stitch it together. I can't do it, honey.

[Monet X Change]

I will say this. I love this new trend. So obviously a lot of us do brand stuff and stuff to pulls I love. So back in the day. Well, not back in the day like when brand. When I first started doing brands. My day back when I first started doing brands. So like after season, season 10, like when you had to do videos, you had to make sure you said, like, all the audio and the video. But now the trend is now, like, having the video of you doing the thing and putting a voiceover. And that makes that much easier. So much easier. It's so much better. Cause then if you do the video and you in drag and you already recorded the thing and you forgot to say the thing, you're like, fuck, I had to get and drag and do it again. But now you just have the video, mute the audio and just put the voice over on top of it. And it's way better.

[Peppermint]

It is better. That's true.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I have a question I want to ask you both, but I have to ask it after this break.

[Peppermint]

Okay. I'm Kiana, and I leveled up my business with Shopify. Once I figured out that Shopify was a thing, I never turned back. I can create a site with my eyes closed. Shopify thinks ahead of us, you know, and it thinks about the customer more than anything. Every day I'm thinking about some other new business, but Shopify is doing it to me because it's so easy to use. It's like, I can't stop. I'm addicted.

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[Bob the Drag Queen]

Close your eyes, exhale.

[Peppermint]

Feel your body relax, and let go

[Bob the Drag Queen]

of whatever you're carrying today.

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[Peppermint]

And breathe.

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[Monet X Change]

Visit 1-800-contacts.com today to save on your first order.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

1-800-contacts.

[Peppermint]

All right, we're back.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So here's a real question. What good is sitting all alone in your room?

[Monet X Change]

I can't, I can't.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, I mean, if you're gonna do anything, come hear the music play, you know? I mean, life is a cabaret, old chum. Come to the. I call me chum.

[Monet X Change]

You are so silly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

First of all, do you have any connection, if you have any particular connections to that film or the stage?

[Monet X Change]

Boy, I've never seen it.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, wow.

[Monet X Change]

I've known the music from just being in nightlife and working in drag and being queer. I know, like, not all. I know some of it, but I've never seen the show. I know, like, the, I know the Liza part. I know the Alan Cummings part. Not know them like, I know the big songs from those roles, but I've never seen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not when I say I know the track. I can go in.

[Monet X Change]

What is, what is. What is. Alec Cummings. He's the, he's the, not the, not the Matrix.

[Peppermint]

He's the mc.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And Liza Minnelli is Sally Bowles.

[Peppermint]

Sally Bowles, Yeah. Yeah. I did see the revival on Broadway with Michelle Williams.

[Monet X Change]

She was Sally Bowles.

[Peppermint]

I, I, I don't remember who. It must.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

From Destiny's Child.

[Peppermint]

Understudy.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not from Destiny's Child. Oh, the Broad, the Broadway. The Broadway actor Michelle Williams, but also Michelle Williams from Destiny. Chow has also been on Broadway several times, but not.

[Peppermint]

She was an Aida. Yeah, yeah, I saw it in. That must have been 2000, 1998, I think, or 9. It was probably 1999. And then I started working at the Kit Kat Club because they would. It was so bizarre when it was at the Round, like at the Roundabout, they. In Germany? No, in New York, at the Roundabout Theater Company. They were at the club where they were doing the show. The Kit Kat Club. Yeah, but it wasn't really the Kit Kat Club, but that's what they call the Kit Kat Club, the theater in New York that had the performances where the show takes place.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

This was February 1998.

[Peppermint]

The Kit Kat Club. Yeah. They would open up and turn into a nightclub at night because they really. It was really like a kick. It was really like a nightclub. And so we would go in there and kiki at night and do our party. I can't remember what the name of the party was that was there, but it was really neat because they had the picture frame with all the light bulbs in it. And you just had to look up and you could see, like, all of the set pieces and everything were above the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, that Studio 54.

[Peppermint]

Yeah, Studio 54.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, work. The legendary club. Like, one of the most iconic clubs in the history of New York City. I would say probably the most iconic clubs in the history of New York City. From. From being, like, an outsider who has. Who wasn't there my whole life. But by the time I showed up, what I hear about is Copacabana, Studio 54, the Pyramid, the Limelight.

[Monet X Change]

The other one Bunny talks about all the time.

[Peppermint]

Not Tunnel.

[Monet X Change]

The Tunnel?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, the Tunnel.

[Monet X Change]

The Tunnel. There's another one Bunny talks about all the time. Oh, no, I think it's Pyramid Bunny always talks about.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, that's the bathroom. No, Bunny's talking about the bathroom Bunny talks about.

[Peppermint]

Bunny didn't use the bathroom. Bunny had a DJ booth on her own. And the rumor was that she had an ad out in the back of the Village Voice, which was a free paper. And the ad said, come to see Lady Bunny DJ. The DJ with the BJ's. And you would. And she would, like, say, come on through. And you would just. I guess if you were some guy that wanted a blowjob, you would go back and, honey, it was the Kenny Scharf Room, which is a small dance room. It's where most of the gay stuff was happening. And then the DJ booth was in the corner. And right behind the DJ booth was the emergency. The double doors that would either go outside or you could go up to the offices from there, whatever. But it was like, this was in a warehouse. Like the biggest warehouse back in the 90s in New York City. The building would be the entire building. And because things were so poor in the 80s, entire buildings would just shut down. And then nightlife people would come in and put a nightclub in the building, but they wouldn't need or use the whole building. So, like, the office would be on, like, the Eighth floor. And, like, the nightclub was the first two floors, and then there'd just be, like, dead floors in between and hallways that were, like, deserted. So she would take people back into that hallway, the staircase, all the time. And, girl, I told this story. I was like, well, shoot, I'm gonna do that one day. And I met this hot guy, and I was like, honey, we are going back into the stairwell. And I had this lipstick, this bright red lipstick on. And first we went under the stage. Cause, like, the stage was, like one of those big platform stages, but it was always up. So, like, you could go under the stage. And at first we tried to go under the stage, but then, like, people were jumping on it, and it was, like, creaking. And I was like, we're gonna die, so let's go back into the hallway. So I went back behind the DJ booth into the hallway, and, girl, we had a little time. And he was really into, like, my lipstick coming off of my mouth onto something else. And I was like, oh, my gosh. And I was, like, so excited. And then, girl, I went up to get paid later at the end of the night, at, like, 4:00 clock in the morning, I'm rolling up, and of course, no lipstick on. And people were like, oh, girl, did you have a good time? And I was like, no. I just took off my lipstick. And they're like, no, we saw how it came off. I didn't know there was a surveillance camera. They had just installed surveillance cameras in the hallway, on the staircase. Girl, I was going to town. And I was like, I had a sex tape. I made a sex tape. I couldn't believe it. Never again.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That. Is that Pep.

[Peppermint]

They got me. All of them. The security guards, everybody, the manager.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Pep came out and everyone faced the door like this.

[Monet X Change]

I must say, I said, after that video, I was like, I know how she working on Monday.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She working. They said, honey, we know you can. They said, we know you can sing and dance, but, baby, we didn't know you could do all that, honey.

[Peppermint]

But anybody that sees him, y' all would have been like, oh, good girl. Cause he was. I was like, oh, no, we're going. That was usually my tea, but I was like, come here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not Pep. The mouth of Sal Ferry.

[Peppermint]

Not South Fairy. Let me find this video.

[Monet X Change]

Well, wait, is. Bob, what is your connection to Cabaret?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You mean, like the film or just cabaret in general? I mean, I was mentioning the film because I would want to talk about. Oh, I mean, my connection to the film is that obviously I've Seen the film. I wish I could have seen it on Broadway. I don't think I was even living in New York City at the time. I thought they did a revival.

[Peppermint]

It was 1998 that it opened.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know when it closed.

[Peppermint]

It might have been 97.

[Monet X Change]

Do you think you could be.

[Peppermint]

It closed in like 2000.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Could I be the MC? I don't think I'm. I'm. I'm probably appropriate for the mc, because mc. I think the mc, like, I don't know if the MC has to be white German, but the MC is like a German with like a whistle accent.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But I don't know if there's a role for me in cabaret, but I do, obviously. I love the music. I love the show. I really like. Like, it's just a really, really good show. There was a controversy because they say that that was the year that the. That Ms. Donna.

[Peppermint]

Not Donna.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Jesus Christ. That Ms. Diana Ross was supposed to win the Oscar. I believe I might be getting this right. I believe the year that Liza Minnelli won the Oscar for Sally Bowles was the year that Diana Ross was nominated for Lady Day Sings the Blues. Or is it Mahogany?

[Monet X Change]

No, no.

[Peppermint]

Lady Sings the Blues.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, Lady Sings the Blues. It was later and everyone was like, she should have. She should have won. And. But then they were like, this was her chance to win and she did not win, you know? You know. Yeah, but that's my connection. Do you consider yourself. Do you two consider yourself cabaret artists?

[Peppermint]

I've definitely done stuff in the cabaret scene.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, I've done stuff in the cabaret scene. I wouldn't call myself a cabaret artist. I would fancy myself as a one woman shower. But not a cabaret. I think cabaret is a little cabaret to me is more of the. I mean, I don't know what the exact definition of cabaret. When I think of a cabaret, I think it's one person and it's very. It's like heavily, like singing with live music for a cabaret. And I don't think I do that.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

A whole bunch of like, who's a cabaret?

[Peppermint]

It is, it's. It's. It's a cabaret. I mean, essentially the cabaret scene is. Is live nightlife, you know, and cabaret is. It compasses many things and it's changed over the years. But it was like a cabaret was the. Was where you would go to hear live music, which was the only kind of music that, you know, they didn't have digital music and they invented the word cabaret. So, like, you would go to hear music in a small setting where there was drinks and kind of spend in the evening because they weren't doing like full dance clubs. So lots of stuff was a cabaret back then. But now, these days the cabaret scene, like by modern definitions is like, you know, live music by a singer. You're right, definitely. Singing, telling jokes and kind of. And it's not necessarily like a full fledged concert. It's an act that really relies on the back and forth between the audience and the people. And there's an entire scene. Cabaret scene of people who. You know. And there's actually cabaret awards in New York anyway.

[Monet X Change]

Oh, really?

[Peppermint]

And these are. Yeah. And it's small houses, like theater. Small, small houses. And it's not quite theatrical seating. It's not like where everybody's just a bunch of chairs looking at a show. Tables.

[Monet X Change]

It's tables. Tables. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like 54 below. The Lori Beachman Theater. Yeah.

[Peppermint]

Joe's Pub.

[Monet X Change]

There's that one uptown where it's like on 72nd Street. Crack.

[Peppermint]

Yeah. Not stadium. Try it. Yeah. The Triad. I shot a music video there.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The Prudential. No, I'm kidding.

[Peppermint]

Because I couldn't afford the box. So we shot at.

[Monet X Change]

I have never tried a box and I'm so. I cannot believe I've lived.

[Peppermint]

It looks just like the Tri or it did look just like the Triad.

[Monet X Change]

And I've heard of these crazy acts that would happen at the Box and like these really subversive, like crazy things. But I've never been.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've been to the Box.

[Peppermint]

The Box is true Cabaret. Like the Box is true Cabaret. Because there's like crazy things happening. Crazy. I'm not saying that the other things aren't, but like you would go there to see, you know, somebody do something like sexual and kind of pushing the envelope and inventive or extremely artistic that's like, whoa, kind of trippy. And then obviously have a great voice singing while doing it. And so the Box is like definitely part of the cabaret scene.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. So there is a performer. I believe I'm going to get her name right. I think her name is Rose Wood. And Rose A. Ms. Rosewood is a, like she is a, A, A pillar at the box. So Ms. Rosewood has a very interesting appearance. She is very like, like jacked. Like she is like defined. And she also has a. Like her. She, like, she shaves her hairline back like really far. Like if you think Divine's hair is far back, Ms. Rose would shave her hair like even further back, like halfway through her head.

[Monet X Change]

How do you. Is it spelled, like, rose and the word wood.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yep. Just one word. Type in Rosewood Drag or Rosewood Cabaret or something like that. Or Ms. Rosewood. And she. I will describe the act that I saw Ms. Rosewood perform, and it is truly one of those, like, performances. You're like, oh, my God. So Rosewood comes out and she's.

[Peppermint]

She's just.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

She has her. She says, like, I think I might be getting. I feel like she has a towel over her chest and a towel on her head, and her face is covered in, like, I think maybe shaving cream. And she shaves it all off. And her presentation is very feminine. And then she takes off the towel, but her chest is traditionally masculine. And then she takes off the thing.

[Peppermint]

And then she.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Her hair is traditionally feminine. And then she. She's saying. I think she. I think she's lip syncing to natural woman. And then she stands up. She's been sitting the whole time. She's sitting on. I'm not lying. This dildo must have been on the smallest side, a foot long, and on the skinniest side, the size of, like, the. The bottom half of a McDonald's. You know, those cups, they're big and they're a little bit smaller on the bottom. The part that goes in the cup holder that wide. When she stood up, everyone was like, oh. And she was on it the whole. The whole performance. Then she stood up and it was like. And it was just like. I cannot believe she was sitting on that. That was.

[Peppermint]

That's insane.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was insane.

[Peppermint]

That was at the box.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

At the box.

[Monet X Change]

Wow.

[Peppermint]

Yeah. The box had. I mean, you had to, like. That's why the box is really exclusive with, like, who they would. You couldn't have phones, like, camera phones, when that became really big. And I don't really know about now,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

but that's why they didn't let Monet in.

[Peppermint]

Was Raven the mc?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't think it was Raven. I think I would've remembered if it was Raven.

[Monet X Change]

Raven Drag Race Raven.

[Peppermint]

No, Raven O. Raven O. O. I've

[Bob the Drag Queen]

met Raven before Monet. Expand your mind, please, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Expand your mouth to close. How about that?

[Peppermint]

The. There's also really another. She's kind of similar to Rose in terms of, like, aesthetic. And look, her name is Narcissist. I'm not sure if she's still performing in the boy scene.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Baby, baby.

[Peppermint]

I love Narciss Sister.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Didn't she date Marilyn Manson for a while?

[Peppermint]

I don't know.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think I want to Google this. Jacob, he Googled that. I think Narcissistic dating Marilyn Manson. Narcissa's sister did an act where this is all hearsay. I've never actually seen the act, but apparently Narcissist, she wears this mask. She did a very kind of talent, too. She wears this, like, mask. She's like, a black. Black person, and she wears a mask. I don't know what she looks like, actually, but she's really.

[Peppermint]

She's gorgeous.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, she has. She has it. You seen her face before?

[Peppermint]

Who?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You've seen her sister's face?

[Peppermint]

Me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, girls. I used to book her at my shows. She'd show up and then get dressed.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I heard the rumor is that she. The rumor that I heard was that no one ever saw her face. She only took electronic payments. She would get in the car, do her numbers, and then leave.

[Peppermint]

Girl, when I was booking her before, we had electronic payments, like, before we had electricity.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, I heard nurse's sister would, like. Would only show up. Like, she would, like, like, walk from the cab to the door to the show, back into the cab and pull off and, like, no one ever. That's, like, the rumor that I heard about her. What's up?

[Peppermint]

So. Well, on Wikipedia, Narcissist was also asked to be the date and accompany Marilyn Manson to various events surrounding the screening of his film Born Villain. So I'm not sure if they were actually a couple or if he was just sort of bringing her along to, like, as part of his entourage.

[Monet X Change]

Well, let's take a break, and let's talk a little bit about how narcissistic that is, I think, to hide your face.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

So the last thing I'll say before we end the Rebecca. The last thing I'll say is, like, she's through this act. I don't want to bury the lead here, but I don't think she does it anymore. Maybe she still does. She would come on stage naked, and then by the end of the show, she would pull a.

[Monet X Change]

Is Bob frozen for you too?

[Peppermint]

Yeah, he froze. Give it a minute. It's nurse's sister saying, don't you expose my act, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Also, but just the way that it paused, that is hilarious. Literally, as he was saying, take a picture of it. That picture we'll never see. We'll never see this picture.

[Peppermint]

I'll text it to you right now, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

That is hilarious. Literally, that is. So he's, like, pulled a dress out of her.

[Peppermint]

Out of her.

[Monet X Change]

So y'. All. Bob is in the Upside Down. Bob has. He always has. Y' all know this. Y' all are not New to this. Y' all are new. I'm Matt Bob, always.

[Peppermint]

Oh, bitch.

[Monet X Change]

Now you froze, as per usual. She gone.

[Peppermint]

Is it true? What is that, like some kind of murder mystery where, like, it's.

[Monet X Change]

You were just frozen. I was like, oh, my God, I'm talking to Bubba.

[Peppermint]

You were just frozen.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like I was saying.

[Peppermint]

Can you hear us? Yes, I can hear you. Yes, I hear you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yes, I hear you, Bob.

[Monet X Change]

Hear you.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You can't hear me.

[Peppermint]

Yes, you can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Peppermint can say she can hear me, bitch. Anyway, what I was saying, y', all, we just. We just had a. Y', all, I have just disappeared for, like, 10 minutes in the time space continuum. But what I was saying was Narciss's sister used to do an act where she pulled a dress out of her pussy. That was. That was the. That was the whole story.

[Monet X Change]

The gag was it literally. It literally is like. You were like, narcissist used to do an ax. She would be butt naked. Then she would pull a dress out of her,

[Peppermint]

and you froze. And we all stood there for at least a minute thinking. You were, like, making it dramatic.

[Monet X Change]

I was like, I see Bob Kaminsko a bit. This is ridiculous. I was like, girl, pull it out of wear.

[Peppermint]

Well, it's more than she. I mean, gosh, she would get completely dressed, but it wasn't like she would just pull a dress out of her. That was the last thing she did. She.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I pulled it down because of all the technical difficult. There was the shoes in the hat. There was a cigarette. There was the whole thing.

[Peppermint]

She was fully. She would fully accessorize, and she'd start completely naked and be fully dressed with accessories that were coming out of her body in different places. And it's genius.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. She would do a BLEEP out of the bleep, a bleep from the bleep, a bleep from the bleep. Do a BLEEP out of the bleep, a bleep from the bleep.

[Peppermint]

Don't tell every piece.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Damn, Bob.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I don't know. I don't know if she still does it. You know what it was. Well, not today.

[Peppermint]

Not after this day.

[Monet X Change]

Do the bleeps, y'. All.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Whoever's edited, do a BLEEP out of the bleep, A bleep from the bleep, a BLEEP from the bleep. And then y' all get to go figure out what.

[Peppermint]

Okay.

[Monet X Change]

What you saw, then nobody. So do you. With your. With your new show letters, your new tour Coming out. Are you. Would you still say that you. That you. Is it a cabaret show? How would you describe it?

[Peppermint]

I'm pulling a dress dildo out of my. I'm pulling a dress out of a dildo. What's the question? Is it a cabaret? Yes, it is cabaret. Yeah, it's cabaret. And I think a lot of people, especially those who are Drag Race fans, aren't necessarily used to seeing A, their drag entertainers sing live while they're in drag, but B, aren't used to going and hearing live music that's not like house or techno or electronic. And so this is not. This is none of those things. Obviously, me and jujubee, you know, people know us from Drag Race, but it's not a drag show. It's about the music. It's, like, about straight up R and B, live music with a band. And that's what it is. And so it is cabaret. Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Traditionally, we have not seen drag artists, like, I do make R and B music, and I'm working on an R and B album. You don't see drag artists doing R and B. So I find this to be very exciting.

[Peppermint]

I hope so. Yeah. I'm excited. And this is obviously the music that we love, but we don't really get an opportunity to sing and perform it in these spaces with these folks that hopefully will come and, you know, hopefully buy tickets to come and see it, you know, so please buy tickets.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Are all the songs from your new album are doing any throwbacks? Are we gonna get any. Any Black Pepper? Are we going to get any Dolly My Titty? Are we going to get any Working Girl? Like, are we going to get any of that?

[Peppermint]

There's no Turn Up. There's no, like. There's no, like, oh, this is a banger. No, unfortunately. So the songs that I did that are about, like, strutting and sashaying or look at My Shoes or like, how much money. Unfortunately, I'm not doing those songs. I'm doing stuff. This is really about, like, oh, my gosh, trans. Black trans people are under attack and all we hear is trauma. Let's sing about us being loved. Because nobody ever talks about how much they love black trans people. So let me actually talk about a relationship that I was in that was beautiful and present and healthy, and I wrote music all about it. And on the album there are some covers, some stuff I didn't write, like Will youl Still Love Me Tomorrow? Which is a Carole King song that the Sherrells did and then Roberta Flack did. And so Many people have recorded it. Also, I do a Stevie Wonder song, I Believe When I Fall in Love. There's. So there's a couple covers on the. On the albums. It's three albums. The third one's not out yet. It comes out soon. It's the Letters to My Lovers series. Three albums. And the first one is A Girl Like Me. The second one is Moment of Weakness, and the third one is Validation, and so I'm doing music from those albums.

[Monet X Change]

Question. So this lover that you're writing about, have they hit you up?

[Peppermint]

Like, no. Like, this is the thing. I mean, hello, these. This. We got disconnected. We broke up. And so we were like. I was not in contact with him for a minute, and he changed his Instagram name. Like, we had no contact. He changed his Instagram name so I couldn't find it, but this was still following me. And so he's seeing everything I'm doing, and I'm like, that is not really fair. I finally found him again, and we are amicable. There's no bad blood. But I did tell him initially, like, years ago when I first started writing this stuff a couple 20, 20, 2019, that I was writing, working on some music. I was going to be telling my side of the story and just tell me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And if you want to do one, you can make an album too.

[Peppermint]

If you want to clear, honey, do yours too, honey. It'll be. It'll be all what you got to say, what you got to say. I did talk to him, and he was like, recently, he was like, oh, you know, when we broke up, we had all these fights, and I was like, we did not fight. So he has a different side of the story, but mine is the truth.

[Monet X Change]

Can you imagine? He puts out. You remember when it had no scrubs and no pigeons? He does his whole wrapping bars. Bars to my lovers. He like, yeah, let us.

[Peppermint]

To my sex. It's just like, what? Yeah, worst sex. I don't know. Um, but we. Oh, yeah, go ahead.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, I want to talk about your, like, your.

[Monet X Change]

Your.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you still. Cause we were. We were talking to Todrick recently, and, you know, Todrick was saying that he didn't really. That he didn't necessarily, like, love his. His, like, Strut Fierce Miss Mama music as much as he loved his other music. Do you, like, have the same love for both of your, like, styles of songs? Do you, like, love them both or.

[Peppermint]

Oh, yeah, in two different ways. Like, I mean, I do that other stuff is. It's pretty. It's lots of fun. It's simple. You don't have to think about it. It's just put it on. I like the beat. You know, half those songs, you probably don't even know what I'm saying other than like one or two words. And so, like, that's fun. But I remember when we were working on a lot of that music, I wanted to talk about, like, real stuff, my feelings and what I thought about stuff. And I was like, you can't do that in a song that's about shoes. Strut, work, feel fierce. You know, it's just like, I'm cute, I'm cute. And then the song's over. And so, yes, I'm cute. But I want to talk about how I feel. Not just about how things, how I look. And so I realized I needed to do some music that has more words in it that describes the stuff, describes what I'm feeling. And I feel like R and B is really the best place for that. For the most part.

[Monet X Change]

I love that. And you know, what I feel about that is that I feel like the more queens, the more drag artists that we get to start doing R and B. Like, we have Peppermint Jujubee. Shay's doing a bunch of R and B music as well. Myself, like, the more that we have more artists doing that kind of stuff, we can start creating tours that are these R and B tours, you know? Cause first, the first one, right? And I love going to the big shows and to a Todrick show and me and Bob show and hearing like the really high energy stuff. But I would also pay money to go to a drag show, a tour that is just R and B groovy, like vibey music. I would love that. So I'm so happy that you and Jujubee are starting it. And hopefully there are more drag artists doing that type of vibey R and B music and we can start doing those tours and fans, because fans, a lot of fans. There is a lot of intersection with fans who, like, listen to Summer Walker and Tank and SZA and who listen to.

[Peppermint]

If you listen to all those artists, we are inspired by them too. And we're inspired by the people that inspired those artists. And so this is, you know, it was a risk and a gamble because, you know, it's not so automatic for people to, like, want to go to this show. They're like, well, are you gonna have voguing?

[Monet X Change]

Right?

[Peppermint]

No. Well, you know, so like, it's an automatic no for a lot of people, but for the people who really do enjoy this kind of music, and really have. I think the people who have been in this situation where they've been in a small room and heard a live band where every single element is being created in that moment on stage, and the person singing and understanding how different that feels than just pressing play on an MP3, I think those people will really appreciate this.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I think that in the same way that when Bianca De Rio started touring doing Strictly Stand up, no numbers, no nothing, that was probably really wild for a lot of fans of drag. Not just Drag Race, but drag in general, being like, wait. She's. Wait, there's no. There's, like, not even a single song. And they're like, no. She just comes out and talks and. I know. And I just want to point out that Bianca Darrell did not invent this. Coco Peru does shows like this. There are. There are lots of queens who do shows like this. I want to make that a big, abundantly clear, distinctly clear. I don't know if I'm using that word right still to this day. Distinctly.

[Monet X Change]

Whatever.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Distinctly me and Monet had to think about distinctly and distinctively anyway. But, you know, I think something about Bianca doing these massive venues, doing just stand up did actually pave a way for other queens to go into these things and do just stand up and not. And not do. So I think that, you know, Peppermint has always been ahead of her time and right on time and right on time at the same time. And also, I think, Pepper, you're a great lyricist. You have some really great lyrics. I really, really love your song Best Sex. It has great lyrics. It is also just a great bop in general. The whole album is good. I have it on vinyl in my living room. Jacob, can you grab the vinyl and show it? I have it on vinyl. Are there still vinyl copies available, or do they all get sold?

[Peppermint]

There's a few vinyl copies left. Yeah. There's not a whole lot, but there's a few.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I recommend you get it.

[Monet X Change]

Vinyl is dope, and I love that artists sell vinyl. I just don't have a record player, and I don't. What I don't want to do is purchase vinyl because I feel like I won't use it.

[Peppermint]

It's more collectors.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Collective and commemorative thing to have in your home. Home. And to hold it. Yeah.

[Peppermint]

But you can play it. There it is.

[Monet X Change]

Yes. Letters to my lovers. A girl. Like, honestly. Yeah. Oh, I. I also want you to do letters to some. To y' all whack ass. And all the ones that have really got.

[Peppermint]

Oh, honey. Well, there's songs for them on to them on there. Trust me. Yeah. That's why it's not just one lover. It's all my lovers. And lovers means anybody I had sex with or who tried to talk to me between 2019 and 2022.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Do you consider yourself. I saw y' all on blast. Do you consider yourself a lyricist, Pep? Cause I consider you a lyricist. I'm looking at some of your lyrics right now from some of your songs and I'm like, this is so great.

[Peppermint]

Thank you, girl. I don't really consider myself a lyricist, but I do consider myself a writer and I co written. Most of these songs are co written but like I'll come up with the idea. I'll come up with like the basics and then the fine tuning, you know, like I'm, you know, every single point of it, I'm like, okay, we have to add this, we have to take this out. And so yeah, the moment that I was like, oh my God, something I wrote really turned into something so beautiful was the song A Girl Like Me, which is basically about like, you know, wanting to. Everybody wanting, understanding the feeling of wanting to be loved and then also wanting to share that love and, and also being deserving of it. Especially queer people, trans people. Because we haven't really been taught how to be in relationships the way that they are today. And so when we were sitting down writing that and it was remotely on Zoom or Skype or one of them things and we wrote the music and then I sang through it and at the end of it we were both in tears, me and Adam Joseph who co wrote it with me. And I was like, okay, we're onto something.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

If any of you want a sneak piece or a taste of how great this music is, Pep did a. I mean a gut wrenching and absolutely beautiful rendition of. Of a Girl like me on the first Black Queer Town Hall. And it is like from her living room. It is just. It is available online. You can go check it out right now. It's on, it's on the first, the first like 2020 Black queer town hall the third day. So there's a three day event, 2020 Black quick town hall, third day. You can skim through and see. Honestly, don't skim through. Watch the whole thing. There's some amazing performances from. She had Diamond Peppermint, Mona X Change, Money Exchange, Todric Hall.

[Peppermint]

Did I do.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh yeah, I did a lip sync.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Oh, this is a U haul. Okay. So Pep, so when, when, when. What are the days of the tour where can we get tickets?

[Peppermint]

It's the whole month of November, people. You can get tickets at my link in bio on my socials or peppermint online.com events. And it's basically the entire month of November. We're not going to every city in the country, and it's just a US Tour, so United States only right now. But it's. We're doing a few cities on the east coast, few cities on the west coast, and Chicago.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What if you did every city in America in the month of November? That'd be insane.

[Peppermint]

Oh, my God. There's not even. There's like.

[Monet X Change]

You have to do, like, two. Some shows have to be two. I mean, Pep is ahead of her

[Bob the Drag Queen]

time and can do anything. Let me put it that way.

[Monet X Change]

You could do. You could do it. You could. You could. Like, you could do Spokane, which is in Washington, and Idaho. Curd or whatever. Because they're like 20 minutes apart. So some states you could do two in a day.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, just run.

[Peppermint]

Run for shows at 10am no, we were not happy with that last.

[Monet X Change]

That's kind of a fierce idea, y'.

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All.

[Monet X Change]

I think someone who did 50 shows in a month, like, in every state, I want to do that.

[Peppermint]

It's like a marathon.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

That was my goal a while back. A while back, I was like, I want to do. I want to do 50 shows in 50. 50 shows in 50 states in 50 days. And like, just. Oh, my God, do ever. And end in Hawaii or start in Hawaii and end in, like, I don't know, Pensacola, Florida. Oh, God, that was like. That'd be so much fun.

[Monet X Change]

And you wait. And you do have opening acts for some cities, right?

[Peppermint]

We do have opening acts. I'm gonna announce them right now for the first time ever in public. So the opening. The first night, which is November 2nd in Seattle, we do not have an opening act, and we don't have an opening act on. There's two shows that we don't have open acts. But I'm really excited about our opening acts. They are. I'm announcing them right now. I mean, I'm fighting. Here we go. And so in Los Angeles, we have an artist named Swish. San Francisco, we have Bomb Snacks, which is a group. In Portland, we don't have an opening act. And then in Atlanta, we have a group called Alto Moon. They are fantastic. In Chicago, we have one up duo featuring Jerome Belbastian, who's on the album. He sings Broken Home with me.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, that name sounds familiar.

[Peppermint]

Yeah, he was one up duo performed on America's Got talent as well. In Boston, we have Yavin, and in Philly, we have Joey Cathos. And in New York City, we have DJ Skife. And DJ Skife. Oh, my God. Like I should be opening for DJ

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Skive was Jerome Belbastian. He was in part of your show in New York City when I came, right?

[Peppermint]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jerome sang. Yeah, he sang on stage with me, the song that we have together called Broken Home. And so he came out and sang in the New York City show.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And me and a couple of friends went to go see. I bought a whole table and then just invited my friends to come join me. It was. It is a really, really good show. And then Jacob's mom went to go see it the next day. Jacob's family went to go see it the next day and affirmed everything that I said. We gave it very similar glowing reviews because it really is. And I got to see, like, a rendition of it again in LA at the Soho House. It was like a mashup. He did a la this time that

[Peppermint]

was like a CliffsNotes version, like, you know, a promo version. But it's the same show. It's essentially the same show. So anybody, if you saw it in New York this time, we're adding jujubee to the show. She has her. It's a double headlining show, so she has her album and her songs that she's gonna sing. And then me with my Bad Juju. Good Juju.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't know. Put you on the spot. But what is. Do you know much about what Juju's doing on her side? I don't know. Put you on the spot and be like, what's everything she's doing. But do you know much about what Juju's doing in her set?

[Peppermint]

I don't know. I don't have her set list committed to memory. But it's songs from Good Juju, which is her album, volumes one and two.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Nice.

[Peppermint]

And so she's got some. I mean, she's got some really great music, and there's actually a song that we're working on together that we're going to surprise. I mean, it's not surprise if I say it, but we're doing a song together from her album.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Don't tell me anything else. I was going to say what's the name, but don't tell me anything else. I'll wait and see. Because that sounds. That sounds incredibly exciting.

[Monet X Change]

Can I say this is the entire time of this podcast? Those boxes behind Bob's head, don't they look like they're like their frames. No, they're. Are they actual. They look like they're flat. Like they're. No, they're just drawings on the wall.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

They're not actually, like. They're just completely.

[Peppermint]

Oh, that's a drawing.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah, it's just. It's just drawings on the wall. No, they're just drawing.

[Peppermint]

They're not the plan.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

The plant is also a part of the drawing. It's a paint. This is the picture.

[Monet X Change]

He's not. Bob. Touch it. Do. Do it. No, you're lying. You're not. You're lying.

[Peppermint]

Listen, you're lying. Pick up the plant.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I know.

[Monet X Change]

It's a mind. Like, the whole time I was like, is that a. Cause it looked like it could be a drawing or it could be just one D. Or it could be. It was fucking me up the entire time. I didn't take any mushrooms today either. I'm not microdosing. I'm truly tripping out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet be microdosing sometimes. How's that been working out for you, Ma?

[Peppermint]

Great.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't.

[Monet X Change]

Miracles.

[Peppermint]

Tell him about it.

[Monet X Change]

I never microdosed. I went to Vancouver.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

When you talked to us today, you said you were microdosing.

[Monet X Change]

Well, okay. I went to Vancouver. I did a. Just for Last Vancouver. A comedy festival there. And they had. Because psilocybin is legal in Vancouver. So, like, at the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Psilocybin.

[Monet X Change]

Psilocybin. Psilocybin.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

What the hell is psilocybin?

[Monet X Change]

That is a drug that makes you. That's. That's in mushrooms. That makes you hallucinate.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay.

[Peppermint]

Oh, yeah, I've heard about it.

[Monet X Change]

Yeah. Psilocybin is mushroom. Mushroom psilocybin. It's interchangeable. So they were selling packets of mushrooms with venue?

[Peppermint]

Like, at a vending machine place?

[Monet X Change]

No, they were, like, for the talent.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like, were the Girl Scouts selling them? Like, was it Girl Scouts being like, buy some psilocybin so we can go camp? Like, what was it?

[Monet X Change]

It was in the gifting suite. So when you do an event, it's a gifting suite for other artists working the event. There's a gifting suite. You can go and just get free stuff.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Can I get their names in contact? These people giving out drugs? Can I get their names in context, please?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, it's called the province of Vancouver. The whole province.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Monet X Change]

Gifting suite.

[Peppermint]

Like when we went in after Jingle Jingle, Jingle Bells or Jingle Balls.

[Monet X Change]

Okay, I gotta talk about that. So we. So Pep and I, we did the Jingle Ball. Together.

[Peppermint]

And then.

[Monet X Change]

So they had us in this, like, holding room. So Web and I in this holding room. And, like, they're holding forever. Forever. And we're like, we want to. We want to, like, get. Because we know that at these events, they have these gifted suites and. Bitch, you get everything. You can get, like, a MacBook, clean house, get a phone. Like, they give, like, these celebrities, like, these really crazy gifts. So then when they. So that. I think they told us about the gifted suite. And when Pep heard that we were allowed to. Cause, like, girl, move. We're going now.

[Peppermint]

And we was at the end of the thing. I didn't know we could go to the gifting suite. And nobody told us that there was going to be a gifting suite. Everybody else was coming in and out with their Lamborghinis and Porsches. And I'm like, well, what are we eating? Like, chopped liver? We're just sitting in the room having some tea and crackers. Where's the gifts? And so finally. And it was Christmas, like, jingle bell. Like, there's gifts. So we finally went over. Girl, we got Kindles.

[Monet X Change]

What else?

[Peppermint]

Girl, we got.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Everything we got.

[Monet X Change]

We had. It was this, like, weighted blanket. And I didn't realize. I looked up that weighted blanket cost, like, $820 for this weighted blanket that was, like, this fancy.

[Peppermint]

I gave mine away. Cause I already have mine.

[Monet X Change]

I gave mine away, too. I didn't realize.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

And those of you who don't know, like, Pep is a tornado of a woman. Like, when Pep comes into a room, Pep is like, bags. She's like. Like, she comes in like. Like, Pep is like. She's. Wherever she's coming from, she's, like, running there. She's like. Then she, like. But then you get in the center of the tournament. It's all very calm. But then when it's time to move again, Pep's like, let's go. Pep's like, you, this. Give me that here.

[Monet X Change]

Hold on.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Call someone. Google do this. You pick up that.

[Monet X Change]

You over there.

[Peppermint]

Come here.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You grab this thing over there. It's like people swirling around her. You're whipped in. You're like, oh, girl, what's going. Your wig gets snatched off.

[Monet X Change]

But Pep and I. Anytime I do a gig with Pep, I had to. Anytime I do a gig or an event or something. Peppermint is truly one of the funnest people to work with Pep correctly.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, a key. It is a key.

[Monet X Change]

One of the greatest. Anytime I see Abdulloh Pep, I'm like, thank God. God. It's going to be a Fucking Kikiana. Every time.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I always tell folks there are. People ask me how I want to work with. I'm telling you, I practically only say two queens. I say Peppermint Monet. Peppermint Monet. These are things I say every single time when anyone's like, who do you want to work with on this thing? And I say, Peppermint Monet. End of discussion.

[Peppermint]

I don't usually get the choice. I'm a little lower on the ring, on the rung. So they're like, you show up, whoever's there is there. And I'm like, damn.

[Monet X Change]

Bob just called me no Mae. Did you realize he was calling me nomay?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Did I?

[Monet X Change]

Yeah, because you were saying Peppermint. You said. You said. Yes, he did.

[Peppermint]

He's the Peppermint.

[Monet X Change]

He said Peppermint and Nome. Peppermint and Nome.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I don't feel like I said that,

[Monet X Change]

but I kind of like it. I kind of nome no me.

[Peppermint]

Hey, no, Mae.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're still waiting on the emergence of mistake. You have a lot of names that you've been. That you've been trying to. Well, Pep. You changed your name, right? Pep. Did your name used to be, like, Gummy Bear?

[Peppermint]

I didn't. That wasn't my first name. I changed. I got a divorce. I like to say Peppermint Gummy Bear was my full name. That was my last name, Gummy bear in the 90s before we had everything we have now, before Google. And it was just like. I was like. It was like candy. Ish. It was all cutesy at first, but I was like, nah, I want to be, like, a little sexier, you know, after that blowjob in the stairwell. And so I was like, let me drop. Drop. I'm a woman. Let me drop the Gummy Bear part. And I should have kept it. Cause it makes it so much easier, you know, but got it. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Peppermint Gummy Bear. When I moved to nxt, there were still some people calling you Peppermint Gummy Bear. There are still a few of the queens who are slightly longer in the tooth, referring to you as Peppermint Gummy Bear. And I was like, who is this Gummy Bear y' all talking about?

[Monet X Change]

Can I say something? I've been trying not to say this because I've been trying to not be my feelings, but I feel some type of way that Bob the Drag Queen and Peppermint Gummy Bear. That's your real name. Never invite me to y' all little game nights, y' all little video Games, parties. I'm never invited. I've never.

[Peppermint]

Wait, didn't we invite you to the smackdown? That was the last time I did.

[Monet X Change]

I was there. That was. And y' all only did that because y' all was trying to do it because it was on social media, but y' all be doing your little private ones. I have not been invited to Pep,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

and I've only done, like, two. We've done, like, one or two private game nights. There have been one or two times where me and Pep play games privately, and it was that Pep could practice for the. For the dis.

[Peppermint]

For the big one, so I can learn how to turn on the box. It really is between me and Jacob. It's more a thing between me and Jacob than it is between Bob. I can.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

We're gonna send, like, some little techie nerd to Pep's house to be like, click, click, click.

[Peppermint]

I don't do tech. I just don't play game things. And so, like, the buttons are so messed up, you know? Like, I don't like this anyway, But,

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet, you got some nerve talking about nine people places. You really got some nerve to either fix your lips or say those words. We're not gonna.

[Monet X Change]

We're not gonna do that. I literally invited you. I literally invited you to the Halloween party that Halloween. A little Halloween. Get.

[Peppermint]

I'm in Atlanta.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Okay, I do know I'm in Atlanta.

[Monet X Change]

I know you're invited, though. But you were invited is the point.

[Peppermint]

You're in Atlanta right now.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. I'm surprising my mom. It's her birthday. My mom's birthday's today. My mom's turning 60. Y' all listen to this much later, but on October 30th, my mother, the lovely Ms. Martha Caldwell from Corinth, Mississippi, turned 60 years old. So I'm gonna go pop up at her house and be like, happy birthday.

[Monet X Change]

And I called her before we started podcast. I called her and I said, happy birthday. She was like, thank you, Monet. Monet, can I tell you something? I was like, what's up? She's like, you called me before my. Before my own son did. I said, that is crazy. I can't believe that he did not call you. I said, he sure. He probably will, though. He probably just waking up. She's like, yeah, I hope so. I was like, I hope so, too.

[Peppermint]

Oh, now I want to call my mama.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You should have been like, I haven't heard from him in weeks.

[Monet X Change]

No, I'm kidding. That's not funny.

[Peppermint]

I know it's her birthday.

[Monet X Change]

But Right. That is not funny, mom.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, I didn't really come from a prank household. If you come from like a house where you play like pranks on each other and stuff.

[Peppermint]

No, no. I'm an only child.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

But you and your parents didn't do like maybe a little salt in the pepper and sugar thing or a little.

[Peppermint]

No, no, we never had pranks. I was just sitting there talking to myself in the corner.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I've realized that a lot of only children talk to themselves. That is quite common amongst you only childreners. I've noticed that

[Monet X Change]

I. In my house, when I go on TikTok and I see, I just don't feel like pranking is like, okay, maybe it's not a race thing, but when I see these, like black kids pranking their parents on.

[Peppermint]

That doesn't seem normal.

[Monet X Change]

I could not imagine pranking my. Maybe it's just how I grew up. My mother would.

[Peppermint]

It's because they have a camera and they're stage. Yeah. Back you'd see my mom jump and then all of a sudden you'd see a hand come towards the camera.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like Blair witch found footage.

[Peppermint]

Yeah.

[Monet X Change]

Right. Yeah.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not me with the update. Current reference.

[Monet X Change]

Right. My favorite ones is when, like, the kids are like, planking their African parents. Because African parents are not planking.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Not planking.

[Monet X Change]

Planking. Pranking African parents. I think it's very funny.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Well, there's this group online that they put balloons around their homes and the balloons are filled with like, foam and stuff. So like, the guy would just be sitting on the couch and then his wife will walk under the doorway. And then he takes a pellet gun, he shoots the balloon, the balloon explodes, and then all the shaving cream lands all over his wife. And they do these together where she'll, like, they have pellet guns and they just have balloons planted all over their homes. And they get very creative whenever she does it. She, like shoots with a gun. The shaving cream goes. And then she does a confetti cannon. So he's covered in confetti. It is like. It is. I mean, it seems like too much to clean up, but then shaving cream

[Peppermint]

goes all over the house.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I mean, wherever they're standing. I don't. It's not. It's not a shaving cream grenade. It's just like a little.

[Peppermint]

I'll tell you. Am I clipping? I'll tell you. It was October. Since it's nearly October, just Halloween just passed and Thriller came out. This was very long time ago. Thriller by Michael Jackson. The music Video came out.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Thank you. I thought you meant Thriller by Ariana Grande for a second Thriller by Michael Jackson.

[Peppermint]

And for the. There might be plenty of people who've not seen the video.

[Monet X Change]

I've never seen the video. What?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

You're lying.

[Peppermint]

Monet's lying.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Monet's doing a bit. Monet's doing a bit. There is no way you've not seen thriller.

[Monet X Change]

You are 90s. I'm from the.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I'm from.

[Monet X Change]

I'm born in 90 girl.

[Peppermint]

This music video was the most popular music video and through the 90s.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Yeah. And yeah, I must say, yeah. Cuz bet said every year do a countdown of the. Of the top music videos. And every year Thriller was number one. Then one year it was one year it wasn't Thriller. Because the video you watch, you would. You would watch this countdown. The top 100 music videos of all time. And their one time thriller was number two. And everybody was freaking out. And number one was Scream. Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Scream.

[Monet X Change]

Oh.

[Peppermint]

Anyway, the video come out and it's a zombie flick. It's like a mini short film. And we watched it and it scared. It was scary to me. And my. I was with my babysitter, her name was Sherrelle. And we watched the video and it was time for me to go to bed. And she's like, okay, go into the bathroom, brush your teeth, do what you need to do and then you'll go to bed. And so I was in the bathroom, brushing my teeth, doing whatever, getting ready. And all of a sudden I heard a noise and I was like, oh no. And I opened the door. What kind of noise?

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Like a knock or a howl or

[Peppermint]

a scratch or a thump. A thump. And then I opened the door and I was like, sherrell, Sherrell, Sherrell. And she did not answer. And then all of a sudden I hear these footsteps real slow. And I was like, what's going on? And I start to go out and just as I start to go out down the hall and Sherrell turns the corner and she's like. Like a zombie coming towards me. And I was like, four, five. So she was scared the hell out of me and she did not give it up. And I like was. It was straight up out of the music video and I was like backing up and I was like, no. And I was like crying. I was really traumatized. I thought she was gonna get me and I thought something happened to her and I was so scared. But she. And she came like right up to me and then she started laughing. It's exactly what Michael Jackson basically does in the music video.

[Monet X Change]

I'm a fun babysitter.

[Peppermint]

No, she was terrible. Don't do. Scared me. I still get, like, heart palpitations.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Oh, God. That sounds. No, that sounds. I was a very. The movie ghost scared me. That was a scary movie for me as a child. I was scared.

[Monet X Change]

Well, listen, y' all guys, I think we heard.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

No, no, no.

[Monet X Change]

I said, well, listen, guys, we have reached the end of our time with our.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

Because I said so honorary sibling because I. Because I proclaimed it.

[Monet X Change]

Make sure y' all go to Peppermint Online now and get tickets to. Well, the tour is called the Lovers. Is it called Letters to My Lovers tour? It's not.

[Peppermint]

It's called Lovers Live because I'm so inspired by Sade. She had a. Her album was called Lovers Rock and then the tour was called Lovers Live. So that's just my little paying homage to Sade. So that album is Letters to My Lovers, but the tour is Lovers Live.

[Monet X Change]

So make sure you go to Peppermint Online, get tickets to Lovers Live to see Peppermint and Jujubee live in your town. Dawnning for some true R and B singing. And I can't wait. I'm definitely gonna be at the LA show and bought my tickets and I'll see you there, hopefully.

[Peppermint]

Just kidding.

[Bob the Drag Queen]

I love you so much, Pep. I love you very much. Ms. Min and Monet, we've shared not sat.