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All.
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Welcome to Sibling Watchery. Surprise, surprise, surprise. The iconic Naomi Smalls. Everyone's favorite sibling is on the pod.
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Your favorite last minute stand up.
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No, I think I want to go on record. I think you are the person that they request the most whenever it's you. Because I have something we get and we get a lot of shady comments, but you, every time it's you, everyone is very happy to like.
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Thank God.
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More Naomi, please.
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Oh, yeah. You know, I love to be here. I love to be here. I love you.
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Do you like being here with more with me or more with Bob?
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It really is two different vibes. It really is two different vibes. I think, I don't know. I think that we probably now that like you and I have known each other for so long and Bob and I have known each other for so long, but I think that we. We have equal amount of like recording and working together. So I don't know. Well, it's less chaotic, I think with you.
A
Yeah.
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Cause Bob more chill.
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Always 100% Bob is trying to get you to say something shady. It's always a thing.
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You know what? Actually I. Bob doesn't try. I. There's something about being with Bob that I just feel like I can say whatever because I know he just says whatever.
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Yeah, he's just a shit stirrer.
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But I Had, like, we just filmed doing your makeup, and that was, like, so chill.
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It was great.
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The fastest for me. Four hours that ever went by, and
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I looked really good, girl.
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Oh, yeah.
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I've been trying to replicate the nose contour. I have not been successful.
B
Oh, really?
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Yes. I have not been successful.
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Oh, my God. That's like. That was the easiest thing to do on you, too.
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Well, maybe I need, like, a one on one. Like, Rakakao.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I think. I think. I think I need a one. Or I can tell Byron to, like, just send me the clip of the note.
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Just zoomed in.
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Zoom in.
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Alex said to me. But enough about that. We are here to talk about RuPaul's Drag Race. All Star seasons 11 episode 11 we're almost at the end of this All Stars. And, Naomi, how have you felt about the whole season so far?
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I think this was a really good. I think there's still shenanigans and whatnot with this whole bracket, whatever, but I think the queens really brought it. I think it was a good mix of everybody.
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Yeah. Do you think this overall bracket style was better than season 10 or season 10 better? I think season 10 was better because of the Mistress drama. Mistress has so much drama, and I like drama in my Drag Race.
B
I think this one's better.
C
Really?
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Yeah, I think. Is it the talent in terms of talent and looks and.
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Oh, the looks. Yeah, maybe.
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I think people are the queens here beside me, and obviously Mistress played the game last season, but I think that all the queens are playing.
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Are playing. That's a good point.
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Silky's really in it. Jasmine's really in it. Really in it. Selena was, like, in it. Two in it.
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Yeah.
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Also Kennedy, like, I liked that. I mean, I do think some queens are being. I was surprised that Kennedy was not. The shenanigans were not in her favor.
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Oh, like, like, like, you, like, you should, like, you act that she went home.
B
Yeah, yeah. At that point, I think she at least would have made it as far as she possibly could have.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Because she, like, she normally does, and every other season of Drag Race she's done. She makes it to the top. Whatever.
B
I mean, Deborah Cox, Kennedy Davenport, and she went home. That's crazy.
A
That's what I said. But on. But on the Pit Stop, people like, Monet, you fucking idiot. At least a double Shantae. But Kennedy winning on her own. Are you stupid? I'm like, she is. I've seen Kennedy do every type of lip sync, and she kills it every time. And I Thought she killed that too.
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Oh, to me, she won with the woo.
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The passing out.
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And that was, like, so early into the lip sync, and I was like, yeah, she won. Yeah, but.
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And I'm sorry, but wig reveals after Roxy Andrews.
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Oh, like, it better be stunty country. I like that it was the same color because she went from black to black. I think that's, like, the number one with the wig reveal, because you know how roxy did a 27 to 27. Yeah, but Roxy did a 27 stack synthetic to a stacked 27 human is crazy, which is cunty. And it was like. It was long, but we're doing, like, a stacked synthetic pageant due to a. I not. That's not even a bus driver wig. That's like a. Like a base wig that's, like, got cut a little too short and it can't go into a ponytail.
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Yeah. You know, it wasn't country girl, and it was lifting, and I didn't mind my wig. But it was the same things they're saying. There was a joke. It was like, the same things are the same thing. Like, that's dumb. You know what I mean?
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But anyway, I know these. These kids are like.
A
Well, you said about wig reveals in 2015.
B
Is it different than what you're saying? Yeah, it's. It's specific to the situation.
A
Yes. And the girls. And the girls are echoing the same sentiment. Everyone is like, gag that Kennedy went home because talent wise, I think she was a front runner. I think she did, like, in some of the runways, but I think she in. In overall, I think her talents in comedy, in the performances, she was who? Kennedy Davenport.
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Up until that comedy challenge, up until
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the storytelling, the storytelling thing.
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I understand why she went home.
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It was a weird challenge. I'm. I'm so happy to have to do no dumb ass challenges like that. On Drag Race, she.
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Jasmine mastered, which, like, I think she went in with, like, no plan.
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Oh, you think so?
B
I think she kind of, like, just went in being like, they love me. They're gonna laugh regardless.
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Yeah.
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And I don't think she had, like. I think she cracked a little bit, you know, so probably, like, towards the end. Yeah, I know this isn't last week's episode. Yeah. But towards the end, she was like. Of her set, she's like, and that's why I'll be winning. And it's like that. That, to me, is like, not a planned thing. That was like a. I'm cracking, but I want.
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You guys probably did that. That makes sense. That makes sense. Because It. It didn't make sense. It didn't make sense that she was so bad. When we know her to be. She don't think these things were.
B
But let it be known.
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What?
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Love. Love, Kenny.
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Oh, yeah, same. Love her too. Love.
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Love. She had a moment, but yeah. Yeah, I love her so much.
A
So Joey J was second to win via Raider Queen, which I agree. I. I thought Joey J should have won the whole thing, but knowing that
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she was like, this is a storytelling.
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Yeah, the storytelling thing.
B
Yeah, I think she should have won
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the whole thing too. Joey also rated Kennedy High just in case she ended up in. So she would have to lip sync against her, which I think doing the raid of Queen in a way that benefits you, I think is smart people who don't want to play that strategy. You're a loser. You're whack. Play the game to win, for sure.
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No, I mean, we. We know that. I think we might be one of the few that know that you go in there and you play it for
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yourself and people were mad at you for years. People are still mad at you for
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playing strategy when they should have been mad at us.
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So Silky also voted strategically, and Akira was seventh place. And Silky reads the now knowing that we have beef. When I know you're getting to my results, I'm like, can someone else read it?
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I don't.
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Don't.
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You're not going to have the joy of saying out of your lips that I was last. I'm not agreeing. I'm not consenting to that.
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This beef feud could have been so much more than it was. I feel like they just really needed to lean in. And I totally understand, like, you don't want, like, your personal shit on camera. Yeah, but, like, I think they made. They made it a little uncomfortable for everyone else in the room.
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100% that.
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That shady fake bitch down there. And it's like, that's my friend. Yeah, but.
A
Well, I mean. And like, we kind of talk about the beef. Like, I don't. I still don't really understand what. Someone stole something.
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I. I have a more extensive recap for this untucked as well, but.
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Okay, so we'll get more into that on a Zuckerberg. Okay. Yeah. I would not want this bitch to read my results. So you. And to your point, the next day, it gets really weird in the room because a', Keria, I think this is like, the first time we've seen a', Keria, like, address Silky in some way. And she says, yeah, her fake ass down there. And she also says she knows she's a liar. And then silky's not with the clapping back, which. This is so different to me than season 11 silky, because season 11 silky was ready to take off her clothes and if I want to motherfucking. But this. She says she's not reacting to a', Keri, which I find very strange.
B
I know. Actually, I thought that was weird, too, because I feel like silky would just be down to make tv.
A
Yeah.
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No matter what, you know?
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Yeah.
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So this is, like. There's definitely some real deep.
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Yeah.
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Shit going on between them.
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So now Drew comes in and announced the Dr. Rhonda's mini challenge, where the girls have to get in quick drag, then lip sync while being sprayed with liquid soap. I have to tell you something that I am not interested in in my drag. I am not interested in. In getting it. First of all, I'm not interested in getting in quick drag for anything ever again. And I'm not going to go on TV and get sprayed with soapy water in drag on television.
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I wonder how their eyes right after this.
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Like, I'm just not interested in that being part of my drag.
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Okay. So I was interested in it because the budget for this set.
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Oh, well, that's the process money, though.
B
What. What's the company?
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Dr. Bronner's.
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Oh, Dr. Bronner's. That. Yeah, it's like the.
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Like the dish soap. It's like dish soap, but also bath soap foot. So it's toothpaste.
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It's a. It's three in one. Yeah.
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Girl 12 and one white. White vegan crossfit. People love telling you how they use drops of brownies for everything.
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Oh, it's like my nightmare when I go into a hotel and I see it's like shampoo body wash in the shower. Like, as a one. Oh.
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Not even the three. Just the one.
B
Just one. And then conditioner. I mean, if anyone is using a shampoo conditioner one, it's. It's not real. You can't cleanse your hair and condition at the same time. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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To me, I. I do it, and I seem to be doing fine. But don't take my experiences as y', all, but I seem to be doing okay. But I thought that. I thought Sam Star killed this challenge. I thought she was the best one in the challenge. Like. Like, she was. She was really into it. Like, the whole ponytail thing was dope. She was. She knew every fudgeing word to that song. She was mugging the camera down. I thought Samsar by far killed it.
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I mean, she looked great doing it. I think I liked Jasmine because she just looks so awful, like, for her. And like, she looks. She kind of was giving sadness too, right? She's like, in a little blue. It always comes back to her. Mona Lisa. Yeah, she was. She just looked a mess, and I love that. I feel like quick druggie. Supposed to. I remember the first quick drag they threw at me.
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I was like, yeah, that was it. Was it Cha Cha?
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Was it Cha Cha?
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I feel like Chacha was yalls first one.
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Oh. I was gonna.
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I was like, don't get me. Are you. You.
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It was your experience.
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I probably. I'm probably wrong.
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You're probably right, actually. And I think that that was my. Me giving effort. And I think I just put red lips on.
A
Just red lips. I remember you looking wild.
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A mess, but you supposed to look a mess, though.
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Bob just looked like himself.
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I mean, with.
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I feel like a mole and a cigarette, if I remember.
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And like a short gray wig and
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a short gray bus driver wig with, like, a flat
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Ms. Bojangles.
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Okay, so the maxi challenge this week is the talent. I have to tell you, I think this is one that they can never abolish. Like, I'm all about getting rid of the Snatch Game sometimes, which they did this season, thank God. Challenges. I think the talent show, in my opinion, is one of my favorite daggers challenges because it shows me when I. If I come see your show, what I could maybe be in store for. And I think you get to, like, write, direct, choreograph, create your own thing and present it to us. As a fan. So it's my favorite challenge. I think it should be done every season. It's my favorite challenge.
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Do you like the positioning of it this season? Like, where it's like, later in the season, or do you like it when it's, like, early? Ooh. But you also did like winners where it was, like, at the very end, right?
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Yeah. So all ours was first, and I did winners. It was the end. And I think. I don't know, Naomi. I like. None of them bother me. I think maybe I liked all winners for. I like it being at the end because it felt like a culmination of your whole experience.
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Did you guys rate each other on winners or no?
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We did it. We know we didn't.
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That's the gag.
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I wish we did. That would have been eight. That would have been good.
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I mean, that would have been good. Yeah, you guys did.
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We were out. Do we wait on ours? No, no. Raider Queen didn't exist yet when we did.
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It's crazy. Like on All Stars 4, which doesn't feel like that long ago, but, like, we had a fucking, like, Runway after. Like, we just, like, did our judges
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deliberations in our town, in our talent show off it.
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Which is crazy because that's when you
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had the balls, bitch.
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I was Donald Trump. I was doing, like, a comb over with, like, my sunglasses to try and cover my, like, bald cap line seam. Yeah. It would have been nice to have been able to, like, get out of clown drag.
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Yeah. I was up in there after. After Michelle at me and said, no more sponges, you dumb. I was sitting there with my sponge outfit on, like, you're like, no more
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gray streaks in your hair.
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Oh.
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I guess I didn't realize because now the girls in the work are talking about what they're going to. What they're going to do for the talent show. And I never realized that Jasmine was this, like, known cheerleader. Did you know? Did you know? Was this a talent of hers that everyone knew that she had? I mean, everyone made it so, like, like, they knew, like, we should all know.
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A cheerleader she talked about in her story last week.
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Oh, I didn't.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
I guess I was not.
B
That was part of her.
A
Like, was that. Was that what her story is about?
C
But no, it was like a. A joke to the intro. She's talking about how she came out as trans or came out as day before she came out as trans. But she was also like. And I was a cheerleader, so everyone kind of knew.
A
Oh, okay. Work.
B
Oh, yeah. Kyle to be Jasmine.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah. I worked with her in Vegas and I knew her as a tumble queen.
C
How.
A
How is she in Vegas?
B
Is she herself really so much?
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I can't tell if she's. If she's one of these queens I'll be so irritated by or, like, I would be obsessed with.
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I think she is, like, perpetually, like, going to be that little sister role where you feel both vibes. And I think that was, like, me on guard at first, but then, like, it just realized she's so herself. Like, she has. Doesn't have, like, a mean bone in her body. Good. And I think she's one of those, like, younger queens that gives you your flowers, but not in, like, a way that's like, got it. You know? And it's like, it's like coming from a genuine place.
A
Okay.
B
And she just wants to better her own drag, so. Thank you. Yeah.
A
Which I think she's definitely level up her drag from her original season to now. I think she's done some amazing things. That that gilded age thing I think
B
was such a. Yeah, gorgeous, beautiful, gorgeous, beautiful, beautiful. Yeah.
A
Bianca didn't like it because Bianca don't have no taste.
B
I bet you Bianca hate. Did she hate the hair?
A
She hated the hair.
B
Yeah, she hated the hair.
A
Yeah, she did not like the hair.
B
I could see that.
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You know her so well and I
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love her so much.
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Hate her.
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A' Keria is doing a talent she's never done before and still has to make parts of. I just don't get the rationale of coming on TV and trying something for the first time. It would never. I will never get it. It will never make sense to me.
B
She is that girl, though. From, like, what I've heard, she's, like, traveling to the gigs with the sewing machine with the hot glue guns. Like, I think there's some people, I've realized, and this is like, even before Dragon, they need the chaos in their life to feel the calm or they need the chaos to feel the ooh.
A
It makes them feel alive.
B
Like, they need to be, like, gluing that nail up into the last second of stepping on stage to be like, you know, I think is actually very. That I noticed, like, Rose's, like, all about the showtime, you know, and I think that Kiria is a version of that as well.
A
Well, in creating drag, yes. But like a puppet challenge and, like, it's something that, to me would require you to work out some kinks. You know what I mean? Like, you're in charge of three, which we. Spoiler alert. It kind of. She didn't work them out, so it kind of fucked up a little bit. But, yeah, going on TV to try something for the first time is wild to me. But God bless her.
B
I mean, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. And the taxual talent show.
A
Crystal is doing an interpretive dance about global warming, which is. I thought was. I was like, oh, that's interesting. Interpretive dance as a talent, which is. I guess it works.
B
It works like Willow.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Like interpretive. Something interpretive.
A
Yeah, true.
C
I didn't think about that.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, I'm trying to think. No one has ever done it as good as Willow since the interpretive girly dances. Yeah. Am I bugging, right?
B
I mean, I'm trying to think of another version.
A
I know the. The toaster bathtub thing, it was just so.
B
Oh, the cocoon. The Sierra Mist cocoon was. I guess that's poetry. I don't know, girl.
A
And then what? I was. Oh, oh, oh. So when they're rehearsing their. Their. Their things, I find it interesting that they're doing it in partners and like, you giving your peers feedback. I kind of like that. Although I don't trust Depending on who I had.
B
Right.
A
If I had you, I'd be like, oh, yeah. I feel like maybe we'll give me honest feedback.
B
Right.
A
If I had, like, I don't know, Trinity. I think Trinity. Well, All Stars for Trinity would not have given me.
B
She would have been like. If it would have been good, she'd have been like, ah, very that until you landed on something that was mediocre.
C
Yeah.
A
Yes. Today, Trinity would give good advice.
B
Yeah. But also, cuz, y' all been through it.
A
Yes. Y' all don't know if that was. She was cutthroat in All Stars.
B
Well, she was. I mean, she is just such a good competitor.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, on and off screen.
A
Yes.
B
It's a whole thing.
A
It really is. She, like, really committed to the bit of, like, I am competing.
B
Yeah.
A
And she's not.
B
And it worked. It did work for y'. All.
A
Okay. So it's a new day to work around a curious.
B
I also think her daughter is just like her in that same way. Sam Star is, like, that same personality type who I think is, like, always, like, aware of all the things the competition.
A
Yeah. Well, I think that Trinity was here and she was saying, like, Sam Star could be aborted.
B
She did not claim her.
A
She was not going. I know. Look, I think she was saying that, like, Sam Star has the potential to be better and do more stuff, but at her age and where she has, like, with Drag Race, she's just more. She's just boy crazy. So, like, the boy crazy is more important than the other things to make, like, a drag fiercer, which. How old is that? But she. She can't be more than 25 years old.
B
She's got to be 27.
A
No, 27.
B
That's my guess.
A
No, I'm going to say 20. I'm going to say 25.
C
26.
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Oh, right in the middle.
B
Wait, so who won? If we're on Price, I think Price is right.
A
I would win. Yeah.
B
Again. Dear God.
D
Yeah.
A
So, you know, I guess. I mean, yeah, I was boy. I. I've never been boy crazy, though, like that.
B
I'm. I'm still a boy crazy.
D
Really?
A
Like, boy crazy where it's like, destruction, like, your work?
B
No, same. Yeah. No, but, like, what does she mean by that? Like, I don't know.
A
She didn't elaborate.
B
She needed. She was focusing on so many dicks that she was like, I'm just gonna bring so many cowboy hats. Like, that's, like, the distraction.
A
I don't know. Another cowboy hat. I talked about this last week. Everyone made me sound like I was crazy. Y' all see, I know that we'll get to the runways, but, girl. So as a new day in the work room, in a query, Aquaria A' Keria is still making these fucking. These fucking puppets. And I do, again, I am a big Akira fan. I, you know, I didn't like her Mugler recreation and everyone act like I was. I'm public enemy number one for Kira. No, I love Akira. I think she is. She is so creative. She's. She's dope at making things. I just didn't like that one outfit. So. I know Akira has the chops, but it's giving me so much anxiety watching this. The morning of trying to sew these puppets together for the challenge.
B
Yeah.
A
And you slept. She still don't have the sticks on them. And it's the morning of the show. That's crazy.
B
I understand not packing them for the show, though. Like, I'm sure you, like. If you. If you brought, like, some crazy, like, big feather headdress, you're going to have to assemble it there, you know, or like some backpack or something.
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I'm not good at that. I'm not good at that. You're so on all sides for. There were. There were certain aspects of your costumes, like the. The pie. Didn't you, like, assemble the pie there?
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Oh, no. The pie was so sad because I was keeping it at the hotel in hopes to, like, not spoil it with the other girls. Like just having it in the workroom and, you know, we just, like, walk around and touch each other's stations that I left it in the hotel and the fucking maids, like, broke it. Yeah, whatever.
A
And then dawn does something interesting to me. Dawn says she's intimidated that people are bringing talent to the talent show, which makes me realize that I don't think she's very. She's very confident in her burlesqueing talent, which would get there. Cause I have some. I take some issues with her, with her burlesque. So I'm like, it's interesting that you would be nervous that people are gonna have talent. Talent. So, yeah, like, you're supposed to bring something you're talented doing, which I'm like, she's a great seamstress. Maybe she should have did something around. Like.
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Like, like making.
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Making.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, I know we've seen the Ro. Make a dress and whatever. Maybe there's. Think out the box, something outside like that you're really good at. That's your.
B
Make some Keebler cookies or something. In a minute.
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And Joey J. Is nervous that because of how she played the ratings last time, that it's not the top, she will be bottoming. And I'm like, yeah, but it didn't end up being that way. But that's a big concern.
B
Do you think she was playing the game? Or maybe she was playing the game, but, like, when she was saying, like, well, I didn't think it was gonna be. I didn't know I could put people in the top two places.
A
She's full of it. Full of it. I'm a big JoJo fan, though. I like her a lot.
B
Yeah. Yeah, me too. This season, she came, like, right, Locked and loaded.
A
That shows that you could be. I mean, maybe. Maybe if. If Victoria Pork Chop Parker came back, maybe she would be so funny and so good at drag.
B
And she was commercially attractive and 30. I don't know, maybe that might help.
A
Georgia is a conventionally. There you go.
B
Conventionally attractive.
A
Yeah. Skinny little white swank. Yeah, for sure.
B
Yeah.
A
Shall we get into the talent show?
B
I'm scared.
A
Okay, overall, from. Think of all the. All the talent shows you've seen from a scale of one, being, like, the worst, having the best. Where would you rate this talent show overall?
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I want to say it was pretty high because of the fact that people brought what Dom was saying where she was like, I'm intimidated that people were bringing talents. I think it was an okay thought for her to have that with the way that Drag Race has been with so many lip sync with so many. Like, what was that one season where they would just did like, it was. I think it was, like, top 40.
A
I think it was last season. I think. I think it was last year, the season before that. But it was so many lip sync, like, drag Queen number things. I was like, jesus Christ.
B
Which love. That's what I do. Like, I love a lip sync. No, it's just hard on Drag Race when it's. You're supposed to bring something that's, like, so original, something we've never seen, and then you're doing, like, Deborah Cox also no shade.
A
If you ever seen Obi Smells live, Naomi always finds some aspect to up the ante of what the thing is. Like, either she's traveling with fucking glow lights. At a certain point, she's hired the entire staff to, at this moment, everyone put the lights in the bar office. You find aspects to. Do you know what I mean?
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Up the answer, which is so hard to do in a minute. It's so hard to do that all in a Minute.
A
Fair, fair. Fair point. Okay. I think RuPaul looks so hot.
B
So fucking hot.
A
So sexy.
B
I need that dress, right? I need that dress.
A
Was it like a mirrored or like. It was like a sequin. I don't know what it was.
B
It almost looks like it was, like, long, rectangular, thin sequins, like, all stitched together in a way that kind of looked like broken mirror, but like, this, like, underbelly of an octopus on her chest. So random, but so perfect. Earrings, everything. She looks hot.
A
She looks so, so, so good. RuPaul looks great.
B
Michelle looks hot, too. That, like, Kime Bang.
A
And I love when. I love when RuPaul wears just. Just a short, slutty dress. And I want to know the story behind this now. I. I'm genuinely. I'm curious.
B
I know. I would love to know, like, was
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like, she has arthritis.
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Was it the introduction of, like, the other, like, hosts doing it that she was like, let me, like, remix it or, like, let me do it, like, the nonchalant way, you know?
A
I'm dying to know.
B
Me, too.
A
I just saw a video of her. She was at the Stampede. I'm like, how great it is to be, what, 68 years old? Just wear your little white outfit, which
B
is playing your music for, like, 25,000 people. Like, forcing them to listen to whatever the fuck you want to listen to. Love it. Love it.
A
I love that shit.
B
Speaking of, I had to listen to so much Kesha last night on Bob's DJ set.
A
Oh, God. Does he have a lot of cash?
B
A lot of cash, but, like, cash. Is that from, like, so long ago, you know?
A
Yeah, yeah, Well, I saw. I saw. He was in Toronto, I think, a year, and someone. People love seeing videos of olives, which. I love it. And then he gets on the mic before he starts to say. He was like, just so you know, I'm not, like, gonna dj. I'm just like. I'm just like your best friend at party. Just got the ox chord, which is always him.
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You have to hear this song. You have to hear this song. And then staring at you, watching Sarah got you listening to it and then rewinding it to get his favorite verse to let you know that he knows that verbatim. Yeah. Oh, Bob.
A
Okay, up first, we have Sam Star. This. That's about the look. I think this look is perfectly fine. It's just a. She's like a. She's supposed to be, like, a straight A student. So she's like a slutty school girl.
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Yeah, I'm over it. I'm over it. I want more for her.
A
Yeah.
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Like, and of course, like, we're like,
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stop with the cowboy.
B
But like, I feel like she could have done something.
A
Like, but she did last time. Her last time.
B
She, like, did the death drop off the bail. Hey, yeah.
A
She was like, all countries. I think she wanted to, like, change it.
B
Maybe like, hog tie a pit crew member or like, I don't know, something a little like, I'm a teacher. Okay. So there's like this thing with white people where, like, I know, I know some love them, love them, love white. But when you're like, thing is.
A
Jk, can we see the comments?
B
I'm white.
A
Uh huh.
B
And there's no, like, I'm corny and white or like, I'm silly and white or this is like, so, like, white that it's ignorant. I don't know. There's like something where I wish she's painfully white. Painfully white.
A
And it's like this, like. And I'm not saying she should apologize. Honestly.
D
Yes.
A
White people need to be apologizing for whiteness.
B
There just needs to be a little wink, wink, nudge, nudge with that.
A
Yeah, I would agree. I said, again, it's just a lip sync performance track. And I will say this, whoever auto tuned her vocals. It sounded like a professional song. I was like, yes, professional. But it sounded like, I don't know, it sounded like really, really, really good. But other than that, I thought it was so fucking boring. It is. It's almost pretty much exactly what we saw two years ago when she did. When she was Original season. Season 16. She was, and it was just boring. Like, you just did another lip sync song. Like, also because her last one was so recent two years ago. You're coming back to All Stars and
D
you haven't had that.
A
You haven't had that much time to bake.
B
Yeah.
A
But at least, like, try to up the ante and do something different. You just did. You just did another lip sync performance track.
B
And like, it's not a flex to be a teacher's pet. It's not like, I don't think that,
A
but that ties into her.
B
Like, I don't think when Rue was calling her that, it was a compliment.
D
Right.
B
I was like, but you're.
A
But she. But that's what she heard.
B
I know. Well, it's like, it tells you everything. It's so hard when you're on Drag Race. It's like, they say one thing and you're like, I got some legs forever. Actually, I'm okay with that.
A
I mean, maybe she's a Christian or something. I don't know.
B
Oh, my gosh. You know, Delta work is actually, like, my favorite. I got, like, a voice, like, I love Delta. So, like, when I got a voice note from her being like, you're so spot on with that. Is she Christian or something? Like, maybe it's okay to run my mouth.
A
Yeah, we always want you to run your mouth. It's so poignant. It is so good. But, yeah, I thought this was boring. And I was like, this is just. It's too reminiscent of what she did before. And the most basic things can come onto Drag Race and do. She did it.
B
It's also very reminiscent of. I don't know that. The music video. But didn't Trinity do, like, a school girl?
C
Like, oh, Britney Spears.
B
She did Britney Spears music video once upon a time, probably. I think she was in, like, pigtails,
A
but, like, that sounds familiar.
B
Maybe she was more of a nerdy girl than, like, actually. Do they have a. A Trinity? The tuck, baby.
C
One more time.
B
But do they have a Trinity? The tux?
A
Yeah. Trinity did this.
B
Yeah, she did, like, a music video.
C
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I call shade.
A
Oh, I call shade. Is this.
B
Is that when, like, a Kimora Kanahal is like, a dodgeball player or something like that?
A
No. Oh, yeah.
C
She's like a nerd. And then she becomes hot. But we can't play it because.
A
Got it for copyright.
B
All right, we can afford it.
A
Let's go on next to Joey J. The gay Joey J. Now, I love Joey J. There's something about this that is so tacky, though. The lip. The cheetah with the blue is crazy.
B
It's very dry drag.
A
Very dry.
B
There's some drag costumes you look at, and you're like, damn, you spent money on that. Like, you spent money rhinestoning that. But the. The leopard on this is so good. Like, the rhinestone is so good with the blue.
A
I'm like, why the blue? And I will say her hair is. She'd be killing the hair game.
B
Okay, I have this I like now. Okay. Because I filmed that from head to toe. That hasn't. But it's old news, but a lot. Joey. Yes. Love the wigs. Like, I love that she's wearing wigs, but if every wig.
A
This is what I crave. Naomi, y'. All. Y' all notice Naomi is a stickle. Naomi is so wig. Well, first of all, the entire. Everything is so aesthetically done, but especially wigs. Naomi will go in all the way.
B
I love wigs. I love wigs.
A
So tell us. Tell us.
B
So, like, like, I love that she's wearing wigs. She always needed to wear hair. We all need to wear hair. We all need something, something, something, something. But, like, gorgeous hairlines. She glues the nape down every time. But if every wig is just like something out of your face and hard or out of your face and a pony, it's. It's low key. Like, you're not wearing hair. Like, obviously you're wearing hair, but when you're wearing it, you don't feel like you're wearing.
A
That's what you're saying.
B
Like, when you have it on your head, it's like you just put it on about it, right? Is it so much to ask for, like, something to fall on your face or like a little, like, you know, something a little like, romantic soft, like touchable instead of like a helmet, a structure. And I mean, this is obviously a ponytail that's whipping around with her and obviously it looks gorgeous. Just remember this note for the Runway.
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C
her fault or the dancers?
A
I don't know. But. Well, here's the thing though. If we, we everyone in this room knows this. Y' all probably knows by now too. They do it twice. So did it happen both times?
B
Right? Like it Took me until the judges said it for me to even notice it. Really? Maybe I wasn't watching.
A
It was a pretty glaring girl. She was on all fours.
B
But I was also embarrassing. Impressed. Yeah, I was. I was actually also, to go back Sam Star. I was so impressed that you could even be, like, thrown around like that.
A
Yeah, that's.
B
As a huge dude in a wig, I could never.
A
I could never relate to that. Although she kind of stole Jorge's move at the end. That was on the. On the Pinterest. That was on the mood board. I want the Georgia slide at the end.
B
Right.
A
Which to me is a little, like, girl. Really? Think of you. You're a ballroom dancer. Think of, think of. Do a fox try.
B
I will say I was way more. Way more surprised and impressed with how she was moving.
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I was, because I didn't know she was. I've never seen this perform.
B
Yes.
A
Irl.
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Same. And also, Sebastian looks so hot.
A
Which one is Sebastian?
B
Mustache in the back.
A
Oh, word.
B
He's so hot. Work.
A
Also, these good dudes want to be short because Joey J, I'm assuming, is a tiny lady, and they're shorter than her.
B
Oh. I mean, Joey J can't be more
A
than out of dress.
B
She's tiny. Yeah, she's a.
A
And look, these are on her shoulders,
B
you know, like, when she saw Candy Mew, she was just like, I'm scared
A
it's gonna eat me. But, yeah, but I think that it was good, besides the little stumble. And I like that she brought something different that wasn't just lip sync some samsar.
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Whenever I see, like, queens who have, like, such reliance on. I mean, same like, with. It's like, the same with, like, you're relying on, like, the tech operator or the person playing your music. It's legit. I always think of, like, a Shamu. Like, you're trusting this, like, force to help you with your performance, and it could go either way. So whenever I think I see dancers, I'm like, oh, that's like four killer whales with her. Terrifying. There's so much trust, so much unwavering trust. And they fucked her up. They did.
A
They did her up.
B
They blackfished her up. Yes.
A
Let's go on to Jasmine Kennedy. Jasmine Kennedy doing an original cheerleading song and performance. And she opens up with RuPaul's phrase.
B
Oh, yeah. Oh, is that this performance? A little White Brewster project?
A
No, she said. What did she say? Damn. I should have wrote down what the phrase was. But I wrote down. I wrote down opening up with RuPaul's. Phrase is crazy.
B
Was that not this one? Or was that the. Wasn't that the Joey J one?
A
No, it was this one.
C
I think it was a different one. Let me look into it.
A
Did y' all hear it too? She.
B
She.
C
She did.
A
Because I. I listen. I was like. I was like, what? I was like.
B
I remember hearing that.
A
But, yeah, I was like, girl, you have. You have. She actually has an iconic thing from Untuck.
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Open up.
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Make your own thing.
B
Yeah. Not RuPaul's friends for your moment have it.
A
Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, girl. Flats.
B
I know.
A
How do you. How do you feel about the flats?
B
I mean, can't I. Could she do all that in heels? I don't think at least a.
A
A little Beyonce.
B
She needed scooty booty. She needed that, like, Isabelle Morant. Stacked little wedge.
A
What's that girl name? The girl that did this flips.
B
Maya.
C
Maya. Mon le.
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Maya Monage.
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She doesn't heal.
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Oh, what's her name? The other one. Jax. Jax will come with a little wedge.
B
Jax. Jax would do it and heal. But, like, when they're doing this thing, like, when they're lifting them, I can't even imagine, like, a stiletto, like. Okay, well, I think that sneaker wedge would have been perfect. That very, like, Nikki 2007. Stacked little wedge.
A
And so I'm gonna let it slide because it is cheerleading and it's not so distracting. But you in flats.
C
Oh, it was so. It was the Jimmy Kimmel drag queen. Drag queen. I'm a queen of drag. Yes.
A
Yeah. That was a girl. That's RuPaul's phrase.
B
Unpopular popular opinion.
A
What?
B
Oh, I mean, I love her, but, like. And I think she's so talented. I don't want to hear joelipuss's voice. I don't. Maybe it just takes me back to a time in drag where I'm just like, stop. But like, joel, then we are gonna chat for you. Like, I'm actually shocked that we're still doing that.
A
Yeah, Yeah, I would. I just asked Bob about Joel, like, last episode.
C
I think Joella did a remix for Bob, and it was. She used it. He used it to intro all of his shows. And it was like, Bob the Drag Queen. Bob the Drag Queen. Bob the Drag Queen. Ladies and gentlemen, Bob the Drag Queen is here. And he had that in his. As his alarm for, like, a year. And it was.
B
That's so Bob.
C
So bad. I would wake up to that every morning in such a bad mood, and
B
it brings back a lot of good memories. Too like work the world and all that.
A
Yeah.
B
Bring back my intergalactic.
A
Oh my God. Best forever. I thought this was great. I thought it was very creative. And I, I Her, her, her little. When they lifted her up and the judges commented too. When they lift her up, she do goes like. But other than that, I thought it was, it was cool.
B
I hate that they were trying to use that as like a. That's why you didn't. That's why you're not in the top. Because you're like, you had a moment your dancer and you were like fighting gravity. Like that is cheer.
A
Yeah, sure.
B
I think she brought a talent. I totally understand why she's in her feelings. Like, yes, the shoe, whatever. But like I, I couldn't do that in a flat. I'm sure no one else there couldn't do that in a flat. I'm sure these dancers behind her couldn't do that. So I better hair.
A
That's the only thing that's cheer here though.
B
That doesn't mean it's cute with drag, it's like, okay, yes. Because Minnie Mouse has shoes that are clunky, as if I'm doing a drag version of it. I don't need to have clunky as fuck shoes. They can just be a yellow cunty shoe. Like you can like, you can finagle things to make it cuntier. For the mainstay stage,
A
let's go on to Dawn. Up until Dawn. Okay, what do you think about Dawn? I think she looks incredible.
B
She looks gorgeous.
A
Always.
B
Yeah, always.
A
She's. I think this always looks perfect. Near perfect to me every time. Her proportions always right. Girl getting the, the, the, the, the body stocking to match the makeup so well. Like, she's just so dope.
B
Yeah, for sure. What was her story? It was about like getting her ears right.
A
Yeah, it's like, like, like I'm doing all this, but people just want to talk about my ears.
B
This was hard after the monologue challenge from last week or the story time challenge. Cuz we just like, we heard her voice at length kind of talking somewhat similar to this. Similar, similar tone, different story.
C
But like, I think it's also cuz on her original season, Michelle kept on coming for, for years being like, don, I hate these ears. Like, so Don would do stuff and then walk the Runway and Michelle would be like, I don't like these. So I think it was, it was
A
tied into that this might be an unpopular opinion. And like I've said this, dawn is one of my. I'm Obsessed with her as a drag queen. I love Dawn. However, I think we need to really, like.
B
I feel like people just bring back bullying.
A
I think people like to throw the word burlesque when they're taking clothes off. When the art form of burlesque is more than just taking things off. Like. Like the art of the reveal is a real thing.
B
Yeah.
A
I think when you just say, yeah, I'm gonna do a burlesque number, like, you. Like, just because you can. Just because you're. You're showing us an ear and you're like, take a. Take a corset off in a broad. It doesn't. That doesn't mean you're doing burlesque.
B
Yeah.
A
So I'm like. Like, just saying I'm doing burlesque. Like, really, like, kind of. I was like, that's not what you're doing. You just. You're just. You're doing this thing around you about your ears.
B
I also. If it's gonna be burlesque, I want to see tits and ass.
A
Like, it has to be sexy.
B
I want to see tits and ass.
A
Yeah. So that. She missed.
B
She.
A
She. She. She did it. She missed a mark for me with the burlesque thing and, like. Like, I get the air thing. I didn't think it was that funny, but I do think she looks amazing.
B
Cool cage. I think they lifted her really well, too, right?
A
They did lift her. That was cool. She.
B
These girls are tiny. Sam, Jasmine, and Don are all teeny tiny.
A
Yeah. Dawn is, like, five, seven. She's a short. She's a short. A small girl. Let's go on to Crystal Method, who's in her global warming interpretive dance number. I think she was. She wore. I think this is her. Her drag queen Christmas costume. Costume, I think.
B
Or. Yeah, like a version.
A
Yeah, version thereof. Yeah.
B
It's so interesting on this show, this competition. I hate calling it a show because it's a competition.
A
It's a competition how?
B
Like, we didn't, like, last season because now just, you know, like, when you do this, you have to be so glued into the show. Like, you have to be so glued into the show. So it's hard not to think, like, like, so Nini Coco, last season as a first entrance queen on this competition was dragged so hard for, like, doing something in her talent show that was something she's performed before.
A
Oh, oh, the. She did. She did the. The.
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The Mantis prank.
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Mantis, which I thought was, like, you go in and you, like, show off.
A
Yeah. Like something that you're.
B
You're the best to do. But, like, like, there's no mention of this being like a crystal pass number that she brought for the talent show. Like, no mention even. Maybe it was mentioned and they just didn't air it. You know, this from our Christmas tour. This is from her Mar and Peter Christmas tour. Like a re number. Yeah, for this.
A
Yeah.
B
Which, I mean, it's great. It's very Jimbo esque, very jumbo. You know, I can see that. But I hate that it's like, let's keep that same smoke for everybody. Especially for All Stars.
A
Yeah, exactly. Like original season. I have more graceful All Stars especially.
B
Yeah.
A
Because you, you don't did this from, from, from, from C to 36 cities across America.
B
And I'm saying I understand doing this and I think that this is an amazing routine. But, like, why? I think it's just like, wait, like, we really want her in the top that bad. And like, I think she's anime. I love her. Love her. But come on.
C
I. So I'm not sure about the full nene discourse. I think another part of the knee discourse is that for the music she used, like, for her mix when she was making it for the club, she used somebody's music. But then Drag Race didn't want to pay that, so they had somebody else re record it. And like, they, they made a mix of basically ripping off somebody else's track so she could have it for her mix.
A
Got it.
B
I mean, that's drag.
A
Yeah. I mean, but I, I was kind of in the middle of this number. I wasn't impressed by it. I didn't, I didn't hate it. I didn't love it. I was kind of just in the middle of it. Like, I, again, I feel like, I mean, she called it an interpretive dance. Her was. Her was in burlesque, whatever. But I just, I, I, I, I, I feel like it could have had a better, like, beginning, middle, and end for me personally. And I still think that, like, it left me to be like, I get the joke of pulling the ass. The carrot out of your. Out of your hole and being your dick. But I don't know. I just.
B
It's also July. Like, come on, in December.
A
I would think I'd appreciate this number more.
B
Yes, I would, actually. I would. I would. For the Hollis Sleigh Spectacular. This is perfect.
A
That's a good point. I'm like, I think maybe that's where I was. Like, we're just popping out with a Christmas number. Maybe that's why I felt like, so detached from this number. I didn't think about that.
B
Yeah, it's also like, this could have been. You could have done a hippopotamus version of this. Or like, you could have done it as like, something not so specific to.
A
Yeah, like, honestly, for this, for the show, you know, you come and do this, take the same elements of this, but recreate it for something that feels not so specific to, like. And we know you just pulled it from your Christmas number. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah.
A
So she, like, to your point, made it for like a. A kangaroo or something.
B
Totally. Then they were like, okay, totally.
A
But you just like, repackage and redo
B
the number and it's low key. Jimbo's number.
A
And also this snowman. It's supposed to be like a sexy snowman.
D
I don't.
A
I don't want to. This snowman. I don't want to it. I don't want to suck it. I want to do anything to the snowman. This snowman is not sexy.
B
If the snowman pulled out that carrot and it was that size, I could have been interested. A big dick will get you far.
A
Honestly.
B
See, I still a little dick.
A
We're inclusive here. All dicks matter, guys. Let's go on to Silky.
B
Oh, yes.
A
Silky Nutmeg Ganache doing her majorette number.
B
Call me crazy, I thought she was gonna be in the top.
D
Really?
B
I thought she was gonna win.
A
Yeah, I thought. I thought her dancing was very good. And the only thing for me I felt that her dance was very good. And Silky has a lot of energy when she's performing, but I feel like one thing that was lacking for me, you've seen these majorette shows, you know, online, whatever, is the precision of the. Of all of them. That makes it really impressive. Like this, like, sequence of like six black girls. They're moving as one bitch drum line. One band, one sound. Yeah, they moving one thing. So that part was lacking a little bit for me, but I think. I think I like that it was different. I think Sapphira did a majorette number for her talent show, but she didn't have dances and stuff. So this feels like a fully realized moment. I just wish it was a little more precision, but other than that, I thought that she looked good. I think her dancing was very, very impressive. Because, you know, it take. It take a lot of momentum to bring her. Her damn her body, girl. And she getting up good up there. So it was impressive. You know, I'm.
B
Now that you're saying that, like, the precision and it's hard to, like, I'm sure she has way more training and step than the dancers do.
A
Yeah.
B
So, like, to rely again on these killer whales to be in unison with you. Like, same with Jasmine. Like, these don't cheat year. So to have them be like, so featured in your talent number is a risk in itself. But I loved seeing, like, I know we've seen these guys in like crop tops and skirts and whatever, but, like, I feel like they were extra faggy.
A
Oh, this number 100.
B
And I love that girl.
A
When you. When you. When you get to cosplay a fierce black, you're gonna feel more faggot girl. And she's a flag slots.
B
Yeah.
A
So. So you told me this couldn't do. Couldn't do this with a little scooty.
B
She. Okay. Maybe there's an only maker version of them out there or AliExpress version of them out there. Isabelle Marant, 3 inch hidden platform sneaker. If we must. If we must do it. I think that is the only acceptable. I think three inches and up, you have to have on Drag Race.
A
Grace, girl.
B
The arch is important.
A
Yes.
B
Yeah.
A
Anyway, let's go on to the Runway.
C
Do we not talk?
A
Oh, a kir.
B
Yes.
A
You know, okay. Why is she not wearing the same hair and dressed as the. As. As. As a group? Like, what?
B
See, I like that.
A
You like that.
B
I like that. I was like, yeah, I'm going to be blonde. I'm going be Beyonce.
A
No, but that's like going to see the Supremes or the Dreams and they all have the same thing.
B
Madonna. Diana Ross was like, always a. Like a little more rhinestones on her eyes. There's always something that made her like the one.
D
Yeah.
B
So I understand why she's blonde.
A
Yeah. I It. To me, it was strange that you're in a trio and you though you have blonde and you. And. And you have a different blue sequin fabric dress on. To me, that. That was strange. And that girl in the front, I obviously she was shorter because. Because she. So you can see Akira's face. And I think. What's her name? The girl from Draggers UK who won Blue.
C
Blue.
A
Hydra did something similar. But I've seen blue. Blue was not the first time I saw that either. I've seen it.
B
Yeah.
A
Shaquita in New York used to do it back in the day.
B
Like, blue invented y'.
D
All.
B
Low tion in Chicago. Shout out.
A
Yeah. So, y'. All. I saw this on Twitter. Not on Twitter, on threads. Blue Hydrangea did not develop this type of performance. This has existed for a long time. So Kiri did not mop it from blue. And I think and seen it before
B
the Drag Race brain girl, they think
A
if they have no drag Race, that's the only time.
B
Tunnel vision is actually crazy.
A
Yeah. But it was a little messy, cuz, like, the.
D
The.
A
The detached legs, the doll in the front. I don't get. How was she. How was she supposed to make the mouth move? Like, what was. What was the thing that there's both hands are here. Like, how are you making the mouth move in the front? There was so much engineering, I feel like, that will go into making this successful.
B
Yeah.
A
Working on it. The morning. The day before the morning of is crazy to me.
B
I loved this as a wide. Like, this number on stage with the dancers. It was a full production. It wasn't like, just something spotlit in the corner of the Runway. This was like, actually took up the entire stage, which I really enjoyed. Yeah, great idea. And also, I liked the track. Like, I thought the track was good, too. The track.
A
I wrote that down. I wrote that. That the track being different, the friend felt nice in the room.
B
I think also, like, it was the perfect amount of pandering to Ru for Drag Race. Like, obviously, this is a reference that is near and dear to Ru's heart, but she didn't, like, crown it up. And I'm the fiercest. I thought it was actually a really. Well, I don't think this was a bottom placement to me.
A
I think whatever, because I have my thoughts too.
D
I think that.
A
Honestly, I think when she was making this, she should have been like, you know what? These all ain't gonna work. Work. Rework my number, get rid of the dolls and me. Just me be the focal point. I had. Because the dancers look amazing with the feathered bows. Like, I would like. I think she's just.
B
Oh, you think that she should ditch the girls.
A
Completely ditch the girls and just do it as a solo and have the dances work around you like, like an. Like an old Vegas showgirl, maybe.
B
Like, I think she needed the puppets.
A
You think so?
B
I think she needed the. Well, to match the girl group track. I think maybe the dancers could have had a puppet each, like, maybe sacrifice two of the dancers and have them be the puppets. I don't know if that's, like, cheating, though.
A
Oh, I mean, no, it's your number. Do whatever you want.
B
Or, like, they're the talent.
A
No, but I'm like, two of y' all are puppets now. And honestly, bitch, she should have end of rehearsal. Be like, give me your measurements. You're. You're that dancer now.
B
No, because those heads are. What do they call that? A premature.
A
The baby. The. The dancer heads or the puppet head?
B
The puppet heads. No, I can see all the dancers heads.
A
Okay, so Caesar Salad27 said the track was AI. How do you know that?
B
Yeah, how do you know that?
A
I. I'm not even like, I'm genuinely curious.
B
How.
A
How do you know that the track is AI? Just from listening to it also go,
B
what's wrong with AI?
A
And I see is there police coming? Like, how do you. How do you know that it was AI? But y' all think about it. If she had cut the puppets and just had two dancers. I know. Yes. I know everyone hates the AI talk, but it's bitch. But how do you know it's AI? Like, how do you know? Did you work on the number Caesar
B
salad 27 pipa up.
A
Like, did you work on a number? Did you get com.
B
Like how we just say things now and they. I mean, the voices are loud.
A
I can't.
B
I. I just like.
A
Instead of just like. Cuz now you say this and like now because of think. Oh my God. Akira use AI. Then come to find out she doesn't like. We should have like definitively know before we just start saying something.
B
She.
A
She's AI. I'm so done. Oh, it's B. Says ignore. Ignore. Ignore the AI. Ignore the AI allegations. Monet Kira paid a producer and created it. We aren't going to do this, right?
B
No, it was too smart. Like, the track was way too smart to be written by AI to me.
A
Yeah.
B
In my opinion.
A
Okay, shall we go into the runways now?
B
Let's do it.
A
Sam Star. Sam Star giving.
B
She said this is crown queen.
A
This. Oh, yes, yes. The category was crown or I'm crowning queen.
B
Right? This is.
A
I crowned queen. You the one who wrote the chat? Because I want to know. Because I want to know.
B
Okay, So J for pay 44 is in here every week.
A
Oh, yeah, girl. Jay for pay is. Is loyal. We. We love jp.
B
I know that because I feel like I'm almost in here everywhere.
C
Well, also, again, like, these are. These are our highest subscribers. These are the people who are ride or die.
A
Yeah, they ride or die for. For us. They're not like the cousins. The cousins be messy.
C
I mean, there are some mess too, but.
A
Okay, so up first is Sam Star. She said this was Scaparelli meets the south and she's wearing a. Yet again another cowboy hat. And I. There Are elements of this. I like, I do. I think, I think her hair looks great. I love this white hair with this outfit.
B
When she took that hat off and it had like the like higher asymmetrical side, I was like that gorgeous. I've never seen that.
A
It was really, really, really nice. And I do like the black and gold and I love this stiff rope. Although I said. What did I say? I said, I say I was ready for the towel. Cuz she's coming out draped in a noose.
B
Let me celebrate this out with this new. I'm about to be attached to the back of a pickup truck. Right. You know what I'm saying?
A
Jesus, father.
D
Ow.
A
But I think the hat should have been bigger. Big girl. A little, A little bit bigger.
B
Yeah.
A
But I do like the elements of this. And she's paying homage to the south is fierce. But I think I'm kind of over the cowboy hat stuff still though.
B
I know. It's so hard. This is like, it's, you can plan it so much easier when you're going in for like a bracket system to be like, I don't want to repeat something that I wore two weeks ago or two episodes ago. And a hat is just, just like so specific. It's so specific also, like, is she about that life? Is she far? Is she like riding horses?
A
I don't know. Bob thinks that they don't have horses in Alabama. He said she's a hats apparently just for Texas.
B
But I feel like she also like Sam. Yeah, that's her. Sam Star strikes me as someone who, like, I mean, just based on that like, Teacher Pat thing with like, oh, you like this about me. I'm gonna do it all the time. Like, I'm gonna do it always, always. Because it works. It works for me. And that can be like, really limiting.
A
Yeah.
B
But I do enjoy, like, elements to this. I love this hand holding the star.
A
Really good. That's really good. And the way I didn't notice that until you just said that.
B
That's so good. Right? Like, I don't know if it's 3D or it's like her hand or whatever that is. Also. Is it pants or is it a gown?
A
That's. I think it's a gown. Which. I like making these chaps. I, I, I personally think that's, that's, that's instead of just being like regular chaps again.
B
I love the, like, embellishment on that. That like liquid look. Organza is gorgeous with the. Yeah, it's, it's great. It's actually a great look.
A
Right.
B
It's just hard because we have seen so. So, like, not version. We've seen this collection. This. Her entire time on Drag Race.
A
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
B
I agree.
A
Okay, go on to the next. We have Joey J.
B
Wearing that wig.
A
Don't move stiff.
B
Wear the bowling ball. The bowling pin wigs.
A
The bowling pin wigs. So I saw. Who made this?
B
Art to fashion.
A
Art to fashion made this. I saw it on Instagram. And Art2Fashion is an amazing. This gown is Brooklyn, right? Like, a lot. Like, a lot of Canada's dragons.
B
That's a gag, actually. You are wearing a Drag Race Hosts designer as a competing queen on Drag Race.
A
That's where we are now.
B
That's a gag.
A
That's crazy.
C
That's.
A
That's a RuPaul. Only used Aldi RuPaul's. Like, none of you will be wearing my.
B
I mean, I get it. Yeah, I get it.
A
I think that this gown is beautiful. I think it's a stunning gown. This is that probably, like.
B
Like a.
A
Like. Like a taffeta.
B
Gorgeous.
A
It's beautiful. The stone beautiful on it.
B
The way it reflects with that blue and the purple.
A
I do wish your hair was different.
B
I like. That's.
D
That's.
B
I get it. Like, I understand why she's wearing this hair with it. I just want to see her in something a little bit, like, soft.
A
Well, I think a lot of her wigs always go like this. And I think for this, I would have liked to see a little more like. Like, size on the top, because we always see, like, a slick back into this.
B
Yeah, like the.
A
The wig by Hassan. Just like this. I'd like to see something maybe a little bigger just to give us a little more drama.
B
Just something that moves. Like, you're in motion.
A
You're on video.
B
So, like, having, like. Like, even one spit curl that just kind of, like, bounces with you going down the Runway adds so much, like, feminine energy. And as someone who, like, thinks. I mean, I'm guessing that Joey feels puss when she's in drag.
A
Yeah.
B
It just be nice to not be on a helmet every now and then.
A
And also, I don't know if that's the corset or the titty cup, but that.
B
Yeah, yeah, that cup peeking through. I don't know. You think that's attached to the corset or that's.
A
I think it's attached to the dress.
B
That's weird.
A
That is weird, right?
B
You could just go in and cut that out.
A
Yeah. So it's so maybe it's not then. Maybe it has to be attached to. Maybe it's her. Her undergarment, then maybe.
B
But also at the same time, why is she. No, I don't think so.
A
You don't think so?
C
If you look at the. The other side, you can. You can see the pad, the backing of the pad coming off her chest.
A
Yeah.
B
Also, I mean, I. I think with doing the. The look breakdowns, a lot of the time I'm saying it like, as these are things that you really, really only do on Drag Race. Like, if I was in the club, I probably would be fine with that cup.
A
Oh, yeah. For sure.
B
And like, with that lifted off my chest.
A
Yeah.
B
If I was on Drag Race, I would hope, like, I would have the sense to, like, cut the double side tape. Do it. Or alcohol your chest. Cut the double side tape in the strips that you want. Press. Cut this around because it' just like, it's forever.
A
Yeah, it's forever.
B
It's forever.
A
Forever.
B
Like when you're walking the Runway, it feels like, okay, yeah, this is going to be seen for the season that it's airing, but there's going to be Billy Bob in 20 years doing a Drag Race recap talking about this look. And their eyes are going to be even more trained than ours right now, 100%. But, I mean, don't give them a reason.
A
I think she looks funny. She looks beautiful. And it's gown. I would. I would. I would love to wear this distress.
B
I love the violet contacts, too.
C
Yes.
A
I just noticed that. You see, I didn't even notice that. She also does very beautiful makeup. I like. I really like her makeup. Let's go to our next queen, Silky Nutmeg Ganache. Talk to me about this hair. What do you think about this hair? Because I said somebody a few weeks ago, and Bob. Bob act like I was crazy.
B
He.
A
Why?
B
Do you like it or you don't?
A
No, I was like, you can't just slap a hard front on your cornrows.
B
I know.
A
I'm like, it's not giving the fan. Like, are you trying to get the fantasy that you had cornrows going into this? It's not giving. It looks like a mistake.
B
It's so hard because, like, no one would ever do that style. Like, no braid. No braiding.
A
No one.
B
But it's also drag. So it's like, no woman would wear hair this size, but a drag queen would. So I don't know. There's some styles where silky is wearing. I think it looks best when she has her braided leave out with a braided fall.
A
Yeah, that makes sense.
B
Looks at that. That looks.
A
But you can't take this curly boo and just. And like, it looks like your wig is sliding back. It doesn't look like it's intentional.
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel that.
A
And with this dress, we. She just wore this last week in black. It was a black beaded stone dress.
B
No, no, no.
A
You cannot. In the same neighborhood.
B
No, no.
A
For the same collection.
B
I mean, very, like pageant glamour, but, like, definitely a different party party.
A
Definitely not last week, Jacob. Sorry.
B
Like, she had the corkscrew black hair updo with the avant garden. She had, like, a feathered mermaid gown.
A
Did it.
B
Yeah. I thought it was all black, like, black feather mermaid. The week after that, it's like red carpet Runway.
C
Oh, gotcha.
B
Which, I mean, I love silky in these looks.
A
No, I think. I think silky has done a. Has done a really good job all season long with her looks. She's really turned the party.
B
No, not this yet.
A
Oh, it'll be in her bracket. Sorry, Jacob.
B
No, no. It was last week.
A
Wasn't it last week? I thought it was last week.
B
Episode 10.
C
Okay, maybe I just didn't have her in for some reason, and I pulled it up separately.
A
Well, it's all right. So. So maybe I'm forgetting. I'm forgetting the feathers. Then at the bottom, she had black feathers on.
B
I think it's. You're looking at the. The entrance looks, but.
A
Oh, there it is.
B
Is.
C
Yeah,
B
right. Different queen. No.
A
Okay, yeah, maybe different queen.
B
Like that. Like, I mean, I get what you're saying. Like, they are pageant gowns.
A
You know what I mean?
B
But, like, what did you. What did you want her to wear then for this? Like, something that was more crown, maybe,
A
like, give us more volume. I think silky always goes to, like, this silhouette down, maybe give us, like, volume. Like, we never. We've never seen that from Sil.
B
She has enough volume going on.
A
But, yes, I would again. I think silky has a. Silky is. Has such a beautiful face. Yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful face. I do like this gown. I just. For. For silk, I would have. Out of love, like, just a little more. Just something a little different.
B
A little. A train.
A
Yeah, train something. You know what I mean? Would have been a nice little change of pace, but it is a beautiful guy. I. I would want to wear this gown for sure.
B
I feel like. Yeah, there's probably some more defining that could have gone into this hair. Black is so hard because you just lose so much Detail with black hair.
A
Yeah.
B
But you could still structure in those Cs and those asses, and especially at her bang. Like, you never want your bang to go like, girl, straight down.
D
Because that's.
A
That's the bang right here, right?
B
Yeah, girl.
A
That's like.
B
You want that to be up, lifted, swooped.
A
Yeah. Mega stuff. I'm sorry, I just. Let's go on to our next queen, who is Jasmine Kennedy. I love this gown. I want to wear this gown.
B
I could totally see you in this.
A
I love that. When she walked out, I was like, oh, my God.
B
That is beautiful watercolor.
A
Yes. It's really stunning. It is very reminiscent of Monet, the painter.
B
Yes.
A
And I think I do want Jasmine to. I think she. But she seen herself on tv. I just. I feel like there was a. There was a cultification with her makeup that could happen that will send her into the. The next level.
B
She really does not need. She could wear less than plastique. She could wear less than, like, Gigi. Good.
A
That's what it is. I think she's wearing too much makeup.
B
She could be Britney Spears if she really wanted to.
A
Yeah. I don't think she needs. I think. I think this eye feels so heavy for her face. I'm like.
B
Yeah.
A
I'm like, I don't think you needed all that, girl. I think that Jasmine can get away with something that is so much more softer, and it would. Cuz, you know, it would. It would transform her into, like, the next level. I think she needed eyebrows too. Yeah. Because she probably tried to do, like, a blonde eyebrow.
B
And I like. I like. I like the idea of a blonde eyebrow for her.
A
That is not blonde. That. That is an invisible eyebrow.
B
But this hair is too draggy for her. It's just too drag.
A
It's really sue of it all.
B
I get it. We're on Drag Race, but, like, I think these women wigs that are just dip. They did a bath in Elmer's glue. Like, they are not moving. They have sat in a wig oven. They are rock hard. Why the. Aren't our wigs moving? Like, I think that this was like. Like a chignon with curls that, like. I'm thinking Julia Robertson, pretty woman. Like, I feel like that that version of an updo would have worked so much better for me.
A
That. That sounds cool in the. In the. In the red dress, right?
B
Yes. Like, something that's like, falling on your face and away from your face and still up and romantic and like, 100 off the shoulders, but just, like, a little. Just weren't touching. I just. I want to be able to. To, like, look at you and, like, feel you without actually feeling, you know? And when I look at her, I just feel like I'd be like, there's got to be flaking on my hands.
A
Yeah. I just feel like she could be. Oh, my God. That is the wig they won in the players club. The blonde ones. Very similar. Yeah. I just feel like there is, like, I just. I can't wait for her to realize because it's going to happen. Happen. She's gonna find this, like, next level to her. Her dragness and her identity as a person. I feel like it's gonna. She's gonna shut it down because she's so beautiful.
B
Oh, gorgeous.
A
She's so.
B
Suddenly, the moans are moaning.
A
The moans are moaning.
B
I mean, the moans are moaning. Before, she was on hormones. Yeah. Like, she is just. She's that girl.
A
Yeah. And when she do that. When she. When she does that. But she's gonna be unstoppable. It's gonna be everything.
B
I love her so much. I love her. So she's.
A
I've never met her.
B
I've never met this queen, but she's the best.
A
Yeah. Let's go on to our next queen, who is Dawn? Up until Dawn. What do you think about this look?
B
I love. Never seen it before. She's like a mushroom come to life, slash algae, slash. What's that movie where they, like, ride the, like, butterflies and whatnot?
A
The Never ending story.
B
Is that what that is?
A
I think never.
B
It's, like, animated.
A
Oh, no.
B
Yeah. She gives me, like, a character in that. That.
A
Yeah. RuPaul nailed it. He said it. I think we all agree dawn is so unique in what. In what she thinks about her drag, how she. How she conceptualizes it, how she, like, puts it out into the world. It is. It is. She like, I've seen. We've seen alien queens. Alien queens. We've seen a lot of them, but none of them do it like her. And she does it so. So it's always unapologetically her in the most beautiful way. I think it's really dope, like these flowers emerging from this headpiece with this gray wig. And the proportions are right. And having, like, the perfect cup under the titties. It's just all these details are so, so, so good. It's. It's. It's. It's very stunning to watch.
B
All the textures, too.
A
Yes.
B
Like that white sequin. Like, I would never think to do that with that fabric.
A
Yeah.
D
Yeah.
A
And also like, how did she know that the blue. Because you can't plan this out, that the. The. This Runway ended up being when she was painted blue earlier. Otherwise, she would have to paint herself blue. Blue forward. Make it so it good for her.
B
I think the only thing I would change. I mean, not even. I mean, maybe two things, but only because I'm crazy. I think, like, yes, you have gorgeous blue eyes, but when you wear that much black eyeliner and, like, so much drag makeup, a contact in her eye color would have shut this up. Maybe we would just notice it.
A
Like, what color?
B
Like, her eyes just get a little lost, like, from the wise.
A
Like, brighten it up a little bit.
B
Just to brighten it up. That, like, even, like, if we want to go crazy, do an innocent white dossier. If you want to be like, you irresistible blue dossier. Like, just like. Like, that's her eye color, you know?
A
Yeah.
B
But it was just taking it to, like, a extraterrestrial world. Like, I'm guessing this wants to live in, like, as a drag queen.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. And then I would. If we're doing, like, the sequin bodysuit and I, like, this is. This is crazy. This might be crazy.
A
What, like, like, Bianca in the makeup?
B
Like, not Bianca, but, like, more Juicy Love Dion.
A
Okay.
B
Where it's like the. Like a. Like a coat.
A
Yeah, coat over the.
B
Just to, like, kind of match the matness of her face with the, like, that makes sense of her. I didn't think about that skin, but I love this, like, under titty, under boob. I love that blue tits.
A
It's great.
B
Gorgeous.
A
It's really, really, really beautiful. Up next, we have a curious to Davenport giving you a phoenix rising from the ashes. I think this gown is beautiful. The proportion of this gown are stunning. Stunning, stunning, stunning. I think she. I love everything about this, except I think the wig is too matchy matchy. I feel like the. The wig could have been a little different. Even. Even, like, same shape, but it's. It being the exact same, like, in black or even like a. A. A 627. I think it'd be nice. I think 613. We're. Sorry, we're saying wig number 627 is like a honey blonde. 613 is like a white blonde. Maybe 627, but I also. I'm. I. I'm partial. I love 627. I wear with everything.
B
I feel like I could have seen this, like. Like, black being the main color, and then pops of red and yellow and orange in the Wig, but. But it's so hard. Black hair is so hard on Drag Race.
A
I know, cuz you lose all like.
B
It would have looked good against the curtain, but it wouldn't look good against the main stage. Yeah, yeah. No, this is great. This is. She looks. Looks all star level. I wish that Kennedy was wearing this just for, like, the, like, trajectory of the Phoenix. It would have, like, really taken it. And yeah, I Not even mad at the hula hoop, like, skirt. It's. It's rare. It's rare that, like, when you see something and you, like, know the under structure of it to be so obvious that you're like, okay, I'm into it still. But I think Gia on her season, I think she had like a koi fish hula hoops on her original season. I think so. I think that's like the first time I remember noticing on Drag Race, like, a hula hoop bottom skirt. I don't remember dress. I also could be speaking out of my ass and just connecting her hula hoop entrance back. Yeah. Maybe that one.
A
That was a premiere for season six, I think.
B
Damn. Yeah.
A
You better know it.
B
I mean, this was when I was deep in it. This is when I was like, this show is my bible.
A
Yeah. But I do think a' Keria looks beautiful.
B
Gorgeous.
C
How is her reunion look?
A
Her reunion look?
B
Okay.
C
Ah.
B
Okay.
A
Yeah. The gown is beautiful and she probably made it herself. And. Yeah, I think it looks amazing. And again, the hair, I think it looks good. I just, like, this is like nitpicking, like, splitting hairs. I would have maybe changed her hair
B
a little bit, but I. I mean, if we are going to wear this wig, why the rhinestones?
A
The rhinestones. You don't need rhinestones.
B
And like, I get, you know, I. I've. I've evolved because at first I was like, stop putting fucking glue on your wigs. Now I'm like, I can see who does it really well. And then I see this where it's like, yeah. So far apart. It's like, I would see it, like, if we're going to do it, like, focus really heavily in on a part of the swirl or the ends or like, around your bang. Yeah, focus there. Instead of, like. I think with Dra. Like Drag Race, we get into that in drag in general, where it's like, we need stones. We need stones. But on camera, it just ends up looking, like, gross.
A
Or like, I say, like, I would have. I would have skipped the stones for tv. And then if you wear this to a gig where you're Going to be on stage with stage lights hitting you, then put. Throw some stones on there for.
B
Don't throw the stone. No.
A
Yeah. Not throw.
B
Strategically placing rhinestones. Rhinestones are so expensive. Wigs are so expensive. Like, I'm sure. Sure. I don't know if she styled this. She could have, but, like, I know who didn't.
A
Serena Chacha also, you know, Tina Burner is watching this episode kicking. Tina Burner is at home mad. She's like, that. That could have been me.
B
It still could catch up.
A
Okay, who.
C
Who.
A
Who's your favorite look?
B
My.
C
Oh.
A
Oh, I can't work again on Crystal Method. Crystal Method. This was. I mean, this is a confection of culture.
B
So good.
A
It's so good. The details of the. The. What's it called? What's this called again?
C
I don't know.
B
It's piercing, but it's a septum.
A
Septum with, like, the feathers going through it. The headpiece is so dope. This is really fucking cool.
B
It's so cool as a Runway look. It's so cool as her, like, like part of her package. There's so many details in it. That huge ass rhinestone is like, like multiple huge ass rhinestones. That's really taking the cake. And, like, to match it with this, like, Lemay wing cape thing just gives it even more drama. I love this. This is like something I could see Raja wearing.
A
Yeah, for sure.
B
I could see Rihanna wearing.
A
And I had no idea because I think we're trying to figure out what. What was her ethnicity. And she's Mexican. I think Bob Fletcher is Puerto Rican.
B
Maybe she's part of the, like, alliance that was like the, like, Latina la.
A
Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. We knew we. Well, we knew she was Latino. We didn't know what. Yeah. Like, where she was from. So, like, so. So paying homage to her Mexican heritage. It's so. It's so beautiful. And. And I'm not just saying it's beautiful because it's cultural, because y' all know me, I love to shit on someone's cultural. Shit on someone's culture. But this is.
D
Damn.
A
Sorry, are. But this is so beautiful. Like, I want to wear it. I. I shouldn't and I can't wear it. But I would love to. To wear this off. It's so. And her makeup, her face looks. It's hauntingly beautiful.
B
I love it upside down. Top lash as a bottom lash is so good.
A
So good.
B
And I'm like, She's, like, not wearing a wig, and I don't care.
D
Oh, yeah.
B
That's when you know it's real. That's when you know it's real.
A
Yeah, yeah. This is good. Wait, what? Wait, what did the chat say? Can I go to the chat, Jacob? Someone said, oh, this chat. I love this, y'.
B
All. She's happy.
A
Monet. Oh, my God. What did I say? Oh, shit. On someone's culture, probably. All right. Was that the last one?
C
Yeah.
A
Okay. Okay. My favorite look. I mean, I know it. Do you want to see it? On three?
B
Oh, my God. Wait, can I see them one more time, or am I crazy? Sorry. Sorry, Jacob. Okay. As a crown queen.
A
Crowning. Yeah, yeah.
B
Okay.
A
One, two, three.
B
Joey J. Oh, really? Yeah. As a crown queen. I mean, I love Crystal's look, too, but, like, where's the crown going?
A
Okay, I can see. I mean, it is. It is beautiful. Beautiful. It's beautiful.
B
Yeah. I mean, yeah. It also looks like something Brooklyn has already wore, almost.
A
Yeah, maybe.
B
I don't know. But why are you working in front
A
of his dress, Tamaru? You know, it's hard being on the stage of RuPaul's Drag Race. Tamaroo. She's trying her best.
B
Why is she walking on the front? Who?
A
I think Crystal.
B
Crystal.
A
A little bit.
B
Oh. Oh, speaking of walking on the dress.
C
Yeah.
B
My girl. Silk.
A
Oh, was she walking on it?
B
She was just wearing the most hit.
A
Oh, the shoe.
B
She wore him. Oh, she wore them for the deliberation after her butter look. Like, she wore these, like, really cunty shoes for her butter Runway. And then she wore these, like, suede. Jessica Simpson got it. Ish. Platform. They're very comfortable. I know they're comfortable. I know they're comfortable. But, like, if you're going to wear a ugly shoe underneath a stunning dress, this. That stunning dress needs to have, like,
A
weights so you don't ever see the.
B
Sewn into the bottom of the seam of the gown. So it just never kicks up when you're walking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On Drag Race. Lives forever for something that we're gonna see forever.
A
Forever.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay, so Crystal wins this week, and Jasmine is spooked, literally sobbing on stage because she's at. She's at her wit's end. She's like, I've tried. I did an actual. Wait, wait. With the line. She said, she said.
B
Which is iconic.
A
Iconic. I don't mean anything against Crystal, but talent show, which is the insinuation that I did an actual talent. This bitch did not. So how dare you not give me my flowers and we'll talk about it in a tuck. But I'm like, I get it. Points were made.
B
I understand. I mean, obviously she was hot and emotional, but. But, like, I get it. Yeah, I'd be. I. I mean, I would be that hot and emotional. I just wouldn't crack like that. But I respect her so much for cracking, saying exactly what she thought to
A
the judges, which I also love RuPaul. RuPaul was like, Jasmine, is everything okay? She's like, no, I'm fine. And RuPaul, go back and watch it. He smirks.
B
He smirks. Yeah. No, it's not.
A
I was like, damn, the smirk was crazy.
B
The smirk was crazy.
A
Paul was like an Emmy nomination.
B
And so I feel like she was having that reaction. And I feel like Michelle was, like, judging her.
A
Yeah. Oh, Michelle was absolutely judging.
B
Like, how dare you cry right now? I totally understand why she cried and I totally understand, like, it's a talent show.
A
Yeah. Yeah, I want to see. I did like, an actual talent, but,
B
like, that also has nothing to disregard. Crystal's win from last week. I thought she'd kill.
A
Killed it in the storytelling thing, the pirate one.
B
Her pirate, like, oh, yeah. Rationing granola bars and whatnot. Like, I think. I think Joey could have been up
A
there, but I think Joey was better than that. You don't think Joey's better than that? That's crazy.
B
I think. Yeah. I don't know. I think Crystal's story was really well done. And then I think that Joey's was like the perfect amount of stupid. So it's just too different. I don't know.
A
Akira and Sam were in the bottom and they lip sync to Girls who run the World. Girl, I remember where. I remember where I was when that video premiered. It premiered on mtv. It's tiara was still going on and I was in college and it premiered and I was like, this is because MTV still used to do.
B
This is like the big messy hair them underneath like a freeway passage or something like that. Right.
A
H love this song. And this was. I mean, I so Sam's little, like little front roll thing, it's so graceful. She did it twice. The way she rolled is like she's so in command of her body when she do. It's kind of fierce.
B
It's crazy to like do that in a wig.
A
In a wig.
B
In a wig. Yeah.
A
Says the who did a handset in her say that.
B
I knew you're going to say the moment I done that.
A
This is doing handstands with her 42 inch wig. I would pull my wig off every time.
B
Oh, I mean drag.
A
But yeah, I, I do think Akira got the best of her in the lip sync because Aura was like all over that stage.
B
I mean, the moment it started, I think everyone watching was like, o Got it. Got it. It's hard though. It's like I, on my, during my time on Drag Race.
A
Yeah.
B
It was always given to us the night before or the day before.
A
Yeah.
B
When they gave us the challenge, we knew what the run, the lip sync was gonna be.
A
Yeah.
B
What it would be.
A
And you get all of it at the beginning of the season on ipod.
B
You get all of it two months before you even show up.
A
Yeah. We don't know what it's gonna be for that episode like until the day before.
B
Yeah. So she knew know what was in store for her. It sucks.
A
It does suck.
B
It does suck.
A
I'm like at that point, you gotta just pull out. You gotta think of something, girl to try to get the best of this. Gotta think of something.
B
You grab a curious puppet every time.
A
I hate it. Every time. Oh my God. Every time. I hate these. I'm like, what would I have done to like best someone in a lip sync? And I, I, I wasn't. My brain didn't think of nothing for girls. I think I'll just have to do the lipstick.
B
And I'm sure it'd be kind of
A
no gigs, gimmicks or gags I could do.
B
I don't think it's so hard cuz like these are the songs I want to hear on Drag Race. But I also feel so bad for like the Dons who Get Body by Megan Thee Stallion. Or this one, you know?
A
Yeah.
B
Like, what's a song that would scare you? Like, what's a song that you'd be like, I'm throwing in my towel.
C
I think it's also a song and who you're against, right?
A
Yeah.
B
If you were against Bob Bob, what's a song you'd be like? Shots by lmfao.
A
Oh God. Shots by Olivio. That, that would be one, I think something super rappy cuz he, he loves girl rap.
B
Yeah.
A
Bongo Bongo. I didn't, I didn't even know that song. I only know it from him cuz he was obsessed.
B
Something like a drum. Yeah.
C
This tight. Like a nun.
A
There we go.
B
He loves that one.
A
So K wins sending Sam Star home. And you know what? I think Sam did a good job this season. She should be proud of herself. Maybe if you come back, because at this point they're bringing girls back. Eight, nine, ten times. You come back for All Stars. Leave the cowboy hats at home. Give us a new thing. Don't come back here. Lip syncing a song in a talent show. Give us some. Give us something different. Samuel.
B
Also, I mean, as I know it's been said a million times, like, it sucks that she had less time than everybody.
A
No, no. Why? She, she, she went. She had a whole year, right?
B
No, but she got like, I think someone couldn't do it. And then she filled in for them. Oh, I, I think she had like two weeks to prepare.
A
Oh, I didn't know that.
B
Instead of like the month that everybody else said everybody else had, everyone had. Okay.
A
Interesting. Those. Those are thoughts about the episode. If you want to hear our thoughts about Untucked, we're doing that right now only on our Patreon. Until next. Marketing is hard, but I'll tell you a little secret. It doesn't have to be. Let me point something out. You're listening to a podcast right now and it's great. You love the host. You seek it out and download it. You listen to it while driving, working out, cooking, even going to the bathroom. Podcasts are a pretty close companion. And this is a podcast ad. Did I get your attention? You can reach great listeners like yourself with podcast advertising from Libsyn Ads. Choose from hundreds of top podcasts offering host endorsements or run a pre produced ad like this one across thousands of shows. To reach your target audience in their favorite podcasts with Libsyn Ads, go to Libsyn ads.com that's L, I B S Y N ads.com today.
Date: July 15, 2026
Hosts: Monét X Change, Naomi Smalls (Guest), Miss Congeniality of RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 10 and winner of AS4; Bob The Drag Queen absent this episode
This week Monét X Change is joined by fan favorite Naomi Smalls for a deep dive into RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars Season 11, Episode 11. The episode centers on the highly anticipated Talent Show challenge and the bracket-style game strategy. They dissect contestant performances, runway looks, game play drama, and the evolving standards of All Stars, offering candid feedback with trademark humor and insight.
"It really is two different vibes... With you, it's less chaotic." – Naomi [01:40]
“Deborah Cox, Kennedy Davenport – and she went home? That’s crazy.” – Monét [04:21]
They note the discourse about wig reveals, lamenting that after Roxy Andrews, "it better be stunty." Naomi defends Kennedy’s lip sync prowess.
[07:06] Joey J’s strategy in rating queens to avoid strong competitors in the bottom is praised:
“Play the game to win, for sure. People who don’t want to play that strategy… You’re whack.” – Monét [07:10]
They reflect on fan backlash to strategic play and encourage strategic gaming.
[08:04] Naomi believes the feud between Silky and Akira was underplayed for TV. Monét finds Akira’s comments—"her fake ass down there… she knows she's a liar" [08:38]—out of character for Silky, indicating deeper tension.
[14:15] Discussion about Jasmine’s cheerleader talent and whether her personality might irritate or endear. “She just wants to better her own drag… she has no mean bone in her body.” – Naomi [15:07]
[20:22] Akira tries a brand new talent on TV—a puppet act—which the hosts say is wildly risky and perhaps unwise:
“Going on TV to try something for the first time is wild to me. But God bless her.” – Monét [21:12]
[22:16] Contestants rehearse by giving peer feedback—hosts like this twist, but wouldn’t trust everyone for honest critique.
“It’s almost pretty much exactly what we saw two years ago… boring.” – Monét [33:01] Naomi wants more self-awareness about Sam's whiteness:
“I wish she’s painfully white... there needs to be a little wink, wink, nudge nudge.” [32:49] They praise the professionalism of the vocals but find it uninspired.
“If every wig is just something out of your face and hard… it’s low key like you’re not wearing hair.” – Naomi [37:01]
“People just bring back bullying… I think people like to throw the word burlesque when they’re taking clothes off. The art form is more than that.” – Monét [49:04] They feel her routine didn’t showcase true burlesque or sex appeal.
“Let’s keep that same smoke for everybody. Especially for All Stars.” – Naomi [51:47] Both hosts feel this act would have landed better during the holidays.
“Call me crazy, I thought she was gonna be in the top… I thought she was gonna win.” [54:41] Monét loves the energy but wished for more precision with dancers; overall, they applaud Silky for pushing the number’s queer/femme energy.
“Working on it… the morning of is crazy to me.” – Monét [58:42] Naomi would have accepted two dancers pretending to be puppets as a cheeky fix.
“Just something that moves... like, even one spit curl that just kind of bounces with you going down the runway…” – Naomi [67:08]
“She could wear less than Plastique, less than Gigi Goode.” – Naomi [73:28]
“She like, I've seen... a lot of alien queens but none of them do it like her.” – Monét [76:26]
“This is so beautiful… her face looks hauntingly beautiful.” – Monét [84:09] Naomi loves the septum feather and the “bottom lash as top lash” makeup detail.
“I don’t mean anything against Crystal, but TALENT SHOW!” – Jasmine [86:46] Monét and Naomi defend her feeling, agreeing she made strong points about what constitutes “talent” on Drag Race vs. Drag Race talent.
Naomi on strategic gameplay:
“Play the game to win, for sure. People who don’t… you’re whack.” [07:10]
Monét on burlesque confusion:
“…people like to throw the word burlesque when they’re taking clothes off. The art form is more than that.” [49:04]
Naomi on Dawns look:
“She’s like a mushroom come to life… she does it so unapologetically.” [76:04]
Monét on Jasmine’s journey:
“I just feel like she could be… her next level is just around the corner. She’s so beautiful. Suddenly, the moans are moaning.” [75:41]
Naomi on wig stones:
“If we’re going to do it (rhinestones), focus really heavily in on a part… instead of all over.” [81:08]
Jasmine Kennedy's breakdown:
“I did an actual talent. This bitch did not.” [86:47]
This episode offered an incisive, funny, and sometimes biting run-through of All Stars 11’s Talent Show episode, blending fashion critique, game theory, and drag philosophy. Monét and Naomi’s chemistry anchored brutally honest yet sisterly commentary, providing both entertainment and valuable insight for Drag Race diehards and casual fans alike.
Missed Untucked coverage? The hosts continue an extended chat over on Patreon, inviting listeners for a deeper dive into the behind-the-scenes drama.