Watchery AS 11 Ep 12 "Disco Smackdown for the Crown"

Summary

Podcast Summary: Sibling Rivalry Watchery AS11 Ep 12

Episode Title: "Disco Smackdown for the Crown"
Date: July 22, 2026
Hosts: Monét X Change & Bob The Drag Queen

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Main Theme

This episode of Sibling Watchery covers the grand finale of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars Season 11. Bob and Monét break down the disco-themed LaLaPaRuZa lip sync smackdown, give their opinions on the structure of the finale, critique the queens' performances and production choices, and discuss broader topics like reveal culture, race conversations, and identity within drag. Their signature chemistry leads to hilarious bickering, drag wisdom, and plenty of memorable quotes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Structure of the Finale

• Anticlimactic Finale Format

  • Both hosts express frustration that All Stars finales now happen on the main stage instead of a theater.
  • Bob: "Finales need to take place in a theater, not the main stage of graduation. I think they should be in front of a live audience. You get to see high horror drag and multiple looks." [04:37]
  • Reveals that production often uses generic disco tracks because MTV owns music rights for multiple shows, which impacts the energy of the lip syncs.

• Production Costs/Choices

  • Licensing songs costs at least $20K per track.
  • Bob questions whether that money would be better spent creating a theatrical experience for the queens and the audience.

Queen Drama & Ratings

• The queens' rankings from the episode are fiercely debated, with confusion and bickering over who placed where in the raider queen numbers.
  • Bob and Monét get into a hilarious back-and-forth:
    • Monét: “There’s no Sam. There’s only five, babe.”
    • Bob: “You stay wrong… How many times you want to be wrong? How many times you going to suck my dick?” [10:37-11:48]
  • The duo reflects on strategies for rating each other—should queens be judged by effort or just by what hits the main stage? Consensus: what happens on stage is what counts.

Talent Show Debates

• Jasmine is mad Crystal recycled a known act.
• Monét references Naomi’s take: "Take those same mechanics and make it for this. Be a kangaroo or another animal. Not clearly ripped from another number." [08:04]
• Bob doesn't mind since most people haven’t seen every club number: "I’ve done a number with big wings before on different stages. The mechanics are the same, but I updated the look.” [09:00]

Finale Workroom Drama

• The show made queens submit anonymous questions to spark drama (“Who is least deserving of the crown?”)
  • Tensions rise as Jasmine calls out A’Keria, and Don is accused of low-key campaigning against the girls she doesn’t get along with—particularly Silky and A’Keria.
  • Bob observes: “For whatever reason, it seems like Don does not live for Silky and A’Keria. She does not feature these girls.” [21:24]
  • Monét retorts: "Girl, Jasmine is always trying to start... every episode." [24:44]

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Detailed Lip Sync Smackdown Breakdown

Judges' Looks & Setup

• The group laments requiring queens to parade “reveal coats” that don’t hide anything, and the "all white except RuPaul" funny fashion moment.
  • Monét: “The memo was everyone wear white except Ru, clearly.” [32:42]

Lip Sync 1: Silky vs. Dawn (“Star Love” by Cheryl Lynn) [33:09 – 37:03]

• Silky is confident and a little shady (“getting in front, arms up”).
• Monét: “Silky's reveal was cute, but I’m kind of over props for props’ sake. Twirl those goddamn batons!” [35:39]
• Bob agrees Silky won, but “it was not a full sledge. Dawn didn’t get scrubbed into the earth.” [36:20]

Lip Sync 2: A’Keria vs. Joey (“The Boss” by Diana Ross) [40:58 – 43:50]

• Anticipation over unused reveals lets A’Keria down.
  • Bob: “There’s something unsettling about watching a lip sync when you know a reveal is coming and it doesn’t happen.” [42:33]
  • Both hosts agree Joey J. performs well and wins, especially by nodding to RuPaul’s iconic VH1 Diana Ross tribute look.

Lip Sync 3: Silky vs. Joey J. (“White Girl Song”) [45:21 – 49:08]

• Silky attempts to pick the song, not Joey herself, but the strategy fails.
• Silky’s confetti is mistimed and her prop work is awkward under pressure.
  • Monét: “Going upstage to reveal those five little confetti things sent me… Girl, do it at the front!” [48:06]
• Joey cleverly throws money during the long note, and wins.
• Silky’s body language stings:
  • Bob: “You can tell Silky knows she lost. She looked like she was fighting back tears.”
  • Monét: “She didn’t say goodbye to Ru… She was pissed.” [49:52–50:51]

Lip Sync 4: Crystal vs. Jasmine (“Knock on Wood” by Amii Stewart) [52:13 – 56:58]

• Both queens’ reveals are unoriginal and visible.
  • Bob: “Why even have a coat if I can see your whole outfit underneath?” [54:05]
  • Still, Crystal edges out Jasmine with more creative potential for the finale.

Final Lip Sync: Crystal vs. Joey (“MacArthur Park” by Donna Summer) [57:10 – 60:40]

• Both deliver inventive, high-energy performances—Crystal’s triple-reveal genuinely surprises the hosts.
• Monét: “I did not see her third reveal coming.” [59:08]
• Bob muses about lighting effects and smarter color reveals.

Winner & Representation

• Crystal Method wins All Stars 11!
• Crystal’s speech: "I feel so proud to represent for Latinas, and I'm also dedicating this to all you weird… All you weirdos out there. Life is about coloring outside the lines..."
• The hosts discuss conversations around authenticity and “not being Latin/Hispanic enough”—both are annoyed by these identity gatekeeping debates.
  • “If they can reuse Queens four and five times, we can do a song twice.” – Bob [53:06]
  • On speaking Spanish as part of Latina identity: “Is it her fault that she doesn’t speak Spanish?” – Bob [62:04]
  • Monét: “It’s so weird to judge someone’s blackness, or Latina-ness, or whatever. I hate those conversations.” [62:29]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Bob bickering with Monét over stats:
  "You stay wrong... How many times you want to be wrong? How many times you going to suck my dick?" [11:01]
• On production laziness:
  Bob: "This finale feels so fucking lazy to me. Can they go back to doing that [theater]?" [04:08]
• Shade on reveals:
  Bob: "Why have a coat if I can see your whole outfit underneath?" [54:05]
• Crystal on her win:
  "Life is about coloring outside of the line. So get out there and get wild." [61:10]

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Important Timestamps

• 04:37: Bob and Monét critique the finale format and call for a return to live theater finals.
• 13:31–14:27: Drama over rating system, workroom alliances, and bickering about strategy.
• 33:09–37:03: First lip sync (Silky vs. Dawn) analysis.
• 40:58–43:50: A’Keria vs. Joey—the RuPaul look, reveal rollout, and Joey's surprise win.
• 45:21–50:51: Silky vs. Joey: prop mishaps, Joey’s cleverness, Silky’s visible frustration.
• 54:05: Both hosts debate "reveal coats" being too obvious.
• 57:10–60:40: The grand finale lip sync and crowning moment.
• 61:10: Crystal's heartfelt, quirky winner's speech.

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Final Thoughts

The episode is packed with insightful and comedic analyses of both drag artistry and television production. Bob and Monét's open banter keeps the episode lively—even as they disagree and drag each other. As always, their dynamic delivers both fan-insider tea and big-picture discussion about what makes drag (and Drag Race) special. The celebration of Crystal Method’s win is heartfelt, and their discussion of representation, language, and gatekeeping adds real value beyond mere recap.

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Transcript

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Why do you always want to. Why do you always want to start the thing first? I promise I'm not trying to do a thing. Why do you always have to rush?

[A]

Hey there. Hey everybody. I take initiative, mon. I'm. I am not a back. I'm not a passenger in life. I am an initiative taker. I am someone who's like, if there's. If there's someone. If it needs to be done, I'm the girl who's gonna do it. Try being a collaborator.

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Try being a collaborator. How about that? Try collaborating. Yeah. Scratch, scratch, scratch them newfound follicles. Hair.

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My hair.

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My hair, bitch.

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My hair. I'm stimulating my follicles.

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Hair.

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Oh, wait, did I tell you I

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was someone recently, and I said the word bear and I finally heard it, and it was very funny. I was like, oh, my God, I finally heard it.

[A]

You didn't hear when you said. When you said Nair tears on the

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podcast, because somebody in the room was like, wait, bears?

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I was like, yeah, the bears.

[B]

And they were like, bear. Like, do you want something to drink? I was like, no, like the animal.

[A]

A bear. No, it is a bear, Monet, Are you on crack? It's a bear. The animal's called a bear. Right?

[B]

That's what I said. Yeah.

[A]

No, but you probably said beer because you do them both. You call these earrings? You say my. I can't. Like, oh, wait, like, you say, like, I need new earrings for my. Here. I need new earrings and a new set and some more.

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Here is what you say anyway. Hey, y'.

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All.

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Welcome back to Sibling.

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Always want to start the podcast. Why you always.

[B]

We are here at the grand finale of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars Season 11. And this is the big kahuna. I mean, I said this before, and I'll stand on it. I really feel like the Lalaparuzas. Yes, there's a cli. They are the end. But it just always feels so anti climactic to me. I'm like, I like when it's like a. Like The All Stars 4 1. When we do the lip sync and we're, like, recording the video, like, it feels like it really culminates to something. This feels so fucking lazy to me. And I'm like, can they go back to doing that?

[A]

What do you think? Well, I personally think that finales need to take place in a theater, not the main stage of graduation.

[B]

All Stars. Never has.

[A]

I think that they should, though. I think that All Stars finales should take place in front of a live audience in a theater. Um, I think that you get an opportunity to see high horror drag. You get an opportunity to see multiple looks that are not meant to disguise your other looks. Like, I mean, I, I, I will say this. I, obviously, I'm a big fan of classic drag tropes, but, like, I don't want to see you come out here looking like a Chipotle burrito I don't want to see you come out here, you know, wearing five outfits, wearing five out outfits, and I can see the, the, the next one on every single reveal. I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm not interested in, like, anticipating the reveal that we all know is coming.

[B]

It just doesn't.

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I don't know if it's lazy.

[B]

Not on the girls, on production.

[A]

No, I understand. I don't know if it's lazy, but it sure as hell is expensive. I'll tell you that.

[B]

It's expensive. Finally, like this.

[A]

Those songs are minimum $20,000 each.

[B]

Oh, for the girls.

[A]

So. So what I'm saying is, like, it's $20,000 each. Minimum. Per song. Minimum.

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Oh, songs, songs, song, songs. Got it.

[A]

Yeah, got it. So I'm like, you know, take that money and rent a theater.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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Yeah.

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And let the girls show off their looks and, and come up with. With talents. Individual talents. But that being said, I mean, I'm gonna watch.

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If it was the finale, they would be paying for those songs anyway. So they're like, we're, we're gonna. They would be paying for those songs anyway.

[A]

But, but I mean, I used to, like, make the songs. You know what I mean? It probably don't cost 20k to make the songs. I don't know. I'm assuming they're just that this, that this person is salaried or they're probably not paying. Like, they probably weren't paying Leland and what's his name, 20k per song. You know what I mean?

[B]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[A]

So I think that I. I think I would rather. I just. I just. I think the finale should be in a theater. And I know that All Stars has never been in a theater, but I, I think it should be still Johnny

[B]

Tsunami said Jay will decide that on copyright. Since it's mtv, if they have copyright for a song, usually they can use

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it on multiple TV shows.

[B]

So it's not exclusive only to Drag Race.

[A]

So that's why a lot of times those songs are, like, kind of weird

[B]

because MTV already owns the rights, so these are the songs they're letting them use. Well, I don't know if that's true because.

[A]

Well, I hope somebody's doing Knock on Wood over on Love island or whatever show Paramount.

[B]

Well, I don't know if that's true because they don't even play those same songs in Untucked. Like, when you listen to Untucked, they always have to do a different song. That's not what they're saying to listen because I assume it's cause they don't have the rights to.

[A]

That being said, this is not sibling legalry. This is sibling watchery. And we are going to talk about what's happening. So top of the episode, Akira is sending the girls home. Akira just sent home Sam Star.

[B]

Ayya Ayia is hilarious.

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A' Keria has just sent home Sam Star. And Jasmine is mad that Crystal's talent show wasn't brand new. Like, she's annoyed that we've seen this before. Um, how do you feel about that, Mom?

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Like, what do you think about it? Naomi robbed about it ad nauseam last episode.

[A]

I don't. What was Naomi's take? I didn't get to watch it.

[B]

Naomi was like. Like, if you're gonna do. Like, this is clearly her number from the Christmas Queens. Well, a drag queen Christmas. And Naomi was like, if you're gonna do it. Like, she. She brought up a good point. She was like, you can take those same mechanics for a number of. Because it was like so specific to Christmas. She was a snowman, obviously. She's like, take those same mechanics and make it for this. Be a kangaroo or be another animal. Be something else that is not clearly ripped from another number. And she was also annoyed that people gave Nini Coco shit. Who she was not a drag race girl for doing her number. Remember her praying mantis? Everybody kind of gave her shit. Cause she did it before. Those are her two her takes.

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Yeah. I feel like I don't mind it because a lot of people have not seen that. You know, a lot of people did not get to go to work Christmas Queens or didn't see the clips online. Passing. It's Christmas Queens, right? Drag Queen Christmas.

[B]

What is it? And maybe everyone. Everyone didn't go see Work the Christmas Queen.

[A]

No, I started saying work the world and I realized it wasn't work the World. But yeah, I mean, long story short, like, I don't mind it. It is her number. It's her idea. And if she wants to. Like, I mean, I have done a version of that. I did my like big wings on Work the World and then I went back on Legendary and I did rework it. I had new wings made, new costume made, but it was the same mechanics. Two guys puppeteering, though. No, it wasn't. But I'm just saying. But it's the same idea. I come out giant wings 20ft long, floating behind me. But I did rework it also because my old rings was raggedy.

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I forgot if this is happening. Have you done a number that you've already done before and we're here?

[B]

Yes. Have I tired.

[A]

What number?

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I don't know. I was trying to figure out.

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No, Monet's the one saying yes and I'm waiting for her.

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Literally thinking.

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You don't even know. Just talking. Just saying shit.

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You talked about it a lot, but I don't know if you ever executed it before. We're here. The one with your niece. I remember you talking about it like years before the thing. I don't know if you ever did it.

[A]

Oh, you're wrong. Every number I did on We Were Here was completely unique and new and I had never done them before, so. Yeah, yeah, tilt your little crooked ass head. I'm sorry.

[B]

This bitch got three fucking new follicles on her head. Now she wants to talk about people's heads, so now she want to talk about hair.

[A]

Anyway. A'. Keria. So here's the rundown from the Raider Queen. Number one is Jasmine. Number two is Dawn. Number three is Joey. Number four is Silky. Number five is Sam. Number six. Six is.

[B]

There's no Sam. There's only. There's only five, babe.

[A]

They didn't. They had to rank was ranked. No, but they still ranked her Mo. They rank because they're rating from the week. Yeah, you stay wrong.

[B]

But they. When the girl.

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They did not mon. You think I made this up? They wrote this. I wrote this for the show.

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Jasmine, Dawn, Joey and a'. Keria. And then I guess Sam would be six.

[A]

No, Monet, they ranked them based on where they were. She like, she read all the. All the receipts. Number one was Jasmine. Number two was Dawn. Number three was Joey. Number four was Silky. Number five was Sam. And a' Keria was dead last because everyone put her in fifth place.

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I'm sorry, I really don't want to nitpick on that, Jake, because I wrote it down too. And I.

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You are as wrote it down and I said.

[B]

And I put everyone. I said, I said, I said everyone put Akira at 5.

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Yes, that is.

[A]

Yes. But because everyone put her at five, she ended up at the last because some people put Sam higher. So Sam was at 5 and Akira was at 6 because she got the most low ratings. But ev. Because everyone put her at five.

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Yes, that is correct.

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Oh, okay.

[A]

How many times you want to be wrong? We haven't even made it out the fallout yet. Shut your.

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How many times you going to suck my dick?

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To quote big gamer Monae, stay. Not watching the show.

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I watch Thick Camera, shut your thick ass up.

[A]

I'm sitting here. Read my. This. This is what I deal with. This is what I deal with, y' all anyway. And y' all wonder why. Y' all wonder why I'm grumpy all the time? Cause this. This. This bitch.

[B]

We finally see Silky talk to Aquaria A'. Keria. I was like, oh, a conversation. And she said that she put her. Like, she's explaining why she put her last. I'm like, of all the things you

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could have said to me on this

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All Star you talking about, you wanna tell me why you put me last, bitch, there's. There's way other. More conversations we could have had not talking about, tell me why you fucking put me last.

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Well, the. Okay, so here's what. Here's the thing. I agree with Dawn. I would vote the way that dawn was voting. She said, I. You can't. Like, they were saying they put a' keria last because she was working on her puppets last minute. I agree. I would be ranking by saying not what. How. How hard you worked or how early you worked. I would just be ranking on what happened on the stage, which. When Jasmine Streets be like, well, I still didn't like it. Which I agree. Akira was like, well, then just say that, right? But that being said, you can vote. How? You can vote because you don't like my earrings. You can vote because you don't like me. You can put me wherever you want to put me. It is your vote. You're allowed to do it if you want. You can vote for Jill Stein. That is your business. You know what I mean? But I would have been. I would have done. I would have done it the way I would have had the same mentality as Don in that moment. I'm not raking you based. I don't care if you worked. Like, this happened on my season of Drag Race. They felt like Chi Chi because she took a nap in the workroom because she did all she need to do during the wizard of Oz challenge. And she was like, I did it. What else? Y. Y'. All. Y' all want me to keep gluing and I'm done gluing.

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And.

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And Thor was like, she's over there sleeping. Okay. Why do you care if she's sleeping? She did what she did, and she did it quicker than you did yours. Let it go.

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Yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean, Thorgy will harp us. Thorgy will make something not her problem, her problem every time.

[A]

Who? Thorgy?

[B]

Yeah, I agree. I think that I. I like The

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Jasmines reading my notes.

[B]

Bitch, give me a second.

[A]

But you sound like Corbin from Love Island.

[B]

Jasmine also says that she's seen. She also said in her explanation and in her explanation that she's seen Crystal's number before. I mean, she's seen Crystal's number before. I'm like, but, Jasmine, you cheerleader. She's acting like. She Acting like she invented cheerleading for this talent show. Like, why this girl acting like no one has cheerleaded before she did.

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Well, I don't. I think. I don't think. I think what she's saying is, we've seen you do that exact number, not we've seen you do a talent similar to yours. Now, to my acknowledge, we've not seen Jasmine do cheer on Drag Race or any live. We've seen her tumble, but we haven't seen her do, like, a cheer routine. I think. I think that's what she's saying.

[B]

Oh, all right.

[A]

So the next day, they come into the workroom. That's so good.

[B]

I love her little workroom outfit. It's very, very classy.

[A]

I didn't note it. I don't remember what. I didn't take note of it. She looked beautiful. So they have this thing now, Drag Race. I think this season was like, we really need to crank up the drama. So they had the girls ask each other questions. You can either ask the group or you can ask someone specifically. They only specify one question was Jasmine. Everyone else, like, we don't know who wrote it, but Jasmine said, who is the least deserving of the crown? And so Jasmine says, Aaria, because she was in the bottom twice. Dawn says Joey because she's a wild card. And Joey says Jasmine because she feels like she got sympathy points going into the semifinals.

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Yeah, and someone said. Yeah, someone said Joey. I forgot who, but someone said Joey because she was a. She's like a wild card, so she shouldn't, like, technically be there.

[A]

That's what I just said. Don, are you listening to me? Are you. I know you and Naaman went out last night. You with me? Waiting for the studio. When you not with me. You not. Is there a car driving by the window?

[B]

Bitch, shut the fuck up. Well, thick thick, here come thick gamer. When production has. Damn, this chat is moving fast. When production has to give them topics to talk about. Come on, Nya.

[A]

I don't think.

[B]

I don't think it's giving them topics. I think they want drama. Asking the girls to put questions into the thing is not about. They have to get on top. Is to create drama and create calamity and create. It's the last episode. The last episode's always famously boring. They gotta like, give us something.

[A]

Also, shout out to all of our patrons at our top tier. If you would like to join our watch us review Drag Race and do some of our episodes of Rivalry Live, you can join our patreon. Go to patreon.com, type in sibling rivalry podcast. And if you join at the top tier, you can actually watch us do it live. Shout out to all of our top tier, our stepdads and our cool aunts. So the next question is, who do you want to win the whole thing besides yourself? And Silky says that she wants Crystal to win it. And then she also said Joy cuz it would be wild. I, I like. That's the most backhanded compliment. Oh, you, your ring. Like, I want Joy to win because wouldn't it be weird? But maybe that's just me being like, why it got to be all that? Why can't. Why can't you just be the winner?

[B]

Because it's silky and she's a little. I think, I think, I think silky something's very. She's socially unaware. Like, I, I don't think she meant it to be, to be shady. She. I think she really thought she was saying, like a nice thing.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I think I, I can't. I mean, I know Silky not super well, but I think sometimes silky's. I think Silky's not processing it all the way and she's just saying it. And now that she's famous, she's dealing with the kickback of saying it without thinking about it too much. You know what I mean? Support for today's episode comes from Square, the business platform that helps sellers become neighborhood favorites. Payments, pos, online orders, inventory, staff, all in one place. So you can focus on your customers instead of your to do list. Now, people don't always think of it this way, but a drag queen on tour is a small business on wheels. Or should I say, it's in heels with the product, the CEO, the inventory manager, and the girl at the merch table. Every night, I'm in a different city. And when you're on the road like that, Square is simply the best way to sell your merch. Full stop. Because here's the reality of tour life. The show ends at 11. There's a line at the merch table. Everybody wants a shirt or a fan, and nobody has cash. Maybe it's 2026. We're not carrying cash no more. With Square, it's a tap, done, receipt texted. Next. The line moves, the money's tracked, and we actually get to spend time with the fans instead of fumbling with a cashbox. New city every night, doesn't matter. The whole setup travels with us. The reader fits in a little makeup bag. Same system in Boise as I use in Brooklyn. And Square keeps track of the inventory as we go, so we know exactly what's sold in every city and what's left in the suitcase. No more landing in the next town and discovering we're out of larges. When the tour ends, the business doesn't. Square runs our online store too, so the merch keeps selling while we're home recovering in person online. Combine both one system and it grows with you, whether you're selling 10 shirts out of a duffel bag or stocking a whole tour. Simple transparent pricing. No hidden fees, no locked in contracts, no surprise costs. So if you got a business or a hustle that travels, do what we do. Square helps you run your business more smoothly, bridging payments, operations and insight together in one place so you're ready for whatever's next. Right now, listeners can get up to $200 off square hardware when you sign [e-mail] go run. That's s q u a r e.com go rivalry. Get started with Square and build a setup that works the way you do.

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[A]

then, any secret alliances? That one's kind of boring actually. The question was boring, but it got kicked up because now Jasmine is turning on dawn and she's like, don't try to act like you're not the reason why we don't act like you're not the reason why Akira is in the bottle because you went around campaigning to get. It seemed like for whatever reason, it seems like Adawn does not live for. Specifically Silky and Akira. She. She does not live for these girls. She does not feature the. The. The. The black divas. She is. And I don't think it's because they're black, actually. I don't know why it is. But these two girls, she does not feature them. Like, she does add it all.

[B]

Bunch of spikes.

[A]

No, I just said they are the black divas. I didn't say all black divas. But she did not feature these two. She doesn't feature these. Silky.

[B]

Not dealing with.

[A]

Thinking about what she's saying.

[B]

Nigga, you. Now someone's got a clip. Come got a clip. Dawn does not live for the black divas. That's what you just said.

[A]

I did not mean Don. I don't know how Don feels about black folks. I don't know that bitch like that. I've met Don twice. I've seen Don twice in my life. Maybe. But what I meant was the black. Like these two black divas. Not the black divas Umbrella. These two.

[B]

God, this podcast gets messier and messier as this side goes on.

[A]

But, I mean, I say don't live for black divas. The two that are on this episode of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 11.

[B]

Um, I mean, but her. Her rationale wasn't terribly wrong. She was like, they keep going at each other. They, like, have this thing. Let's just put. I mean, I kind of agree. I mean, could you imagine how satisfied us as the audience would have been to see a Silky versus a' Keria lip sync? We didn't get it the entire season. I'm so. I'm so surprised production didn't give that to us.

[A]

Well, I mean, they. They. They. They couldn't. Cause the girls were picking themselves, so they couldn't. I mean, I guess. And the girls were ranking. So we. They.

[C]

The.

[A]

The production didn't have the ability to actually pit them against each other. Cause the girls have chosen everything.

[B]

I mean, really.

[A]

But dawn tried to. Dawn tried to make it happen. Dawn did her best to produce a fight between A' Keri and Silky, and we did. It did not manifest as. We'll talk about me untucked later. Cause that was. That shit was awkward. As

[B]

I wanna remind you guys that I am on tour for a few things. Number one, I have a little pop up show at the Belly Room in California on August 19th. I'm in California in Los Angeles on August 19th. You wanna come see me in the Belly Room? I think we're like pretty much almost sold out. So there are a few last minute tickets there. And I'm gonna be in San Francisco on August 21st through the 23rd doing standup comedy at. What is it called?

[A]

Bob, I don't know where you doing your show? Your website don't work. I'm scared to go to the website. You might have a virus on your website.

[B]

Shut the fuck up. At Cobb's Comedy club on Saturday, August 21st and 22nd.

[A]

So before we get ruined, I want to talk about this. Like, dawn is fighting everybody. So Don. Don is going. So dawn has beef with A' keria and not beef, but dawn doesn't live for A'. Keria. Dawn doesn't live for Jasmine. Don doesn't live for Silky. So it seems like Don's only connection right now is either is Crystal and Joey. Cause her and Jasmine have a. Is. Is. I mean, I think that dawn is a little bit shady, but like she is doing so much with Jasmine, A' Keria and Silky that I feel like she's not focusing on her own game.

[B]

But she's not doing anything with Jasmine. With Silky and A'. Keria. Jasmine's making it an issue. Dawn was just like, oh, he's put him in the bottom. Then Jasmine's making it a whole thing. It is, But Jasmine, dawn has to

[A]

have some part in it, right? She just said Jasmine ain't fighting. But Jasmine's not fighting by herself.

[B]

Girl, Jasmine is always trying to start every episode. Jasmine's like, well, girl, you should have every episode. What are you talking about?

[A]

I don't think Jasmine talks like that. She gets double call.

[C]

It's not.

[B]

Not bad.

[A]

So root into the workroom. Norvina tells her, girl they're gonna get a collab with Anastasia Beverly Hills. And then, and then she says that, I wonder if. I wonder if they're actually paid extra to do that. I wonder if that's like a paid collab or if it's part of the package.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, I wonder. And then Ru announces there's gonna be a disco lip sync smackdown. So it's gonna be a disco. A lot of perusa, but it's all disco all the time. And Joey is nervous because she has lost both of her lip syncs. She's only done two. Silky is very confident because she has done more lip syncs than anyone on Drag Race. And she is. Is that not. Is that not wrong?

[B]

No.

[A]

And then she said.

[B]

She said I gagged the dislike. She said I made the lip sync lollaparooza popular.

[A]

She said what she said.

[B]

Do you agree?

[A]

I think that Silky's lip sync lalaparuza is probably one of the most talked about lollaparoozas from the se. From the series. I can't think of another one. But hers also was. I don't think hers was a lollaparooza. Hers was over the course of the entire season. So it. Actually, I don't. I don't. Was hers called a lollaparooza?

[B]

It was not. I think, like, the lollaparooza started. And y' all correct me if I'm wrong, I believe they started All Stars 4 with Naomi Smalls and Gia. Remember, that was the iconic Naomi Smalls and Gia Gunn Adrenaline. When Naomi did the black, the back Ben with her 42 inch wig to the floor, that started a lot of peruses.

[A]

But, yeah, I think Silky's. Buddy, please remind us. Talk about Gia Gunn in the. In the Untuck, because this bitch has gone off the rail.

[B]

I'm upset. I don't know.

[A]

She doesn't. That's your queen.

[B]

She's. She. I want her on Drag Race. I want her back on Drag Race so bad. Oh, it was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Bunny Rancher said it was called the. The Redemption Games. Yeah.

[A]

Cause it wasn't all perugia. But I think what she. I think what she's saying is that the. The Lip Sync Battle popular. No, I think what she's. I think what she's saying is that her Lip Sync Battle was spoken about a lot and people liked it. I think. I think that's what she's saying. She did choose some wrong words. She did. Bob, I cannot.

[B]

I cannot decipher what she. What I think she said. I can. I can tell you what she did say. And she said I made the lip sync lalaparuza's popular. No, you didn't, bitch.

[A]

You would have beat me so bad. I don't know. Bitch. I don't know what you meant. All I know is what you said. That's what I would say. I don't know what you meant. All I know is what you said.

[B]

That's what you said.

[A]

So. But yeah, Silky, I think I saw somewhere on Reddit when I was ciphering through all the Oreo hate that. Silky has done more lip syncs than anyone on RuPaul's Drag Race, and I think she has the most wins out of anyone in the history of. No, Trinity has the more challenge. Has the most challenged wins.

[C]

Trinity also maybe had the most lip syncs, but after this season, it's after this season.

[B]

Right, right, right.

[A]

Trinity has the most challenge wins of anyone in Drag Race, and I think Silky has the most lip sync wins of anyone in Drag Race. Now, Don is acknowledging that she is not. Dawn knows that she's not good at lip syncing. The world untold her.

[B]

She.

[A]

RuPaul done told her every time she ever put her lips together to. To. To push air past them. So dawn is not feeling good. She didn't. She. I'm talking about RuPaul.

[B]

RuPaul literally, like, bitch. RuPaul basically said, you're bad at lip syncing.

[D]

And Dawn.

[A]

Dawn's like, is she. Did she lie? Um, Now, Crystal points out that she is the only queen in the work room to be eliminated in her living room. I mean, I will say this. Is it less embarrassing? I mean, I'm not trying to do a funny thing, but, like, I've never been eliminated from Drag Race. I feel like the walk back to the workroom when the camera's in your face feels embarrassing because you're trying to process your emotions, and there's, like, this big straight man, like, you know, Blair Witch footaging you. Um, but at least she can just be, like, laptop closed and then, like, just sit by herself, you know?

[B]

No, Bob, I think it happened. They probably kept their ass on the thing. They probably asked. No, no, I guess they didn't do, like, exit questions. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

[A]

But it's still. But it still ain't a bunch of people. And then you got to get a ride back to the hotel, and then. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. I've been eliminated from Drag Race once like that, and it was. You know, we saw how that worked.

[C]

You know, I went back and watched the footage, though, and you were serving puss the whole time.

[B]

Thank you. Thank you, Jacob. All right, shall we get into little things?

[A]

I forgot that. I forgot that Akira refused to lip sync on All Stars. I completely. That has completely scrubbed my mind. So when Silky did her redemption smackdown. Bitbot. Boop. I forgot that Akira just chose not to lip sync. She was like, I'm. I don't want to lip sync. I don't want to fight for my life.

[C]

The tea is at that point because they were BFFs at that point and she didn't. She wanted to go and succeed and she was like, you know what? I wish the best for you.

[A]

I hope you get it.

[C]

I don't want lip sync against you because you're my best friend and I'm happy to just give you this.

[A]

Win that age like fucking yo Greek yogurt. So last also too, was there a clutch glue ad in this fucking?

[B]

Of course.

[A]

I wish.

[B]

I'd never heard of clutch glue, by the way. Have you?

[A]

I had never.

[C]

I.

[A]

It really just threw. I was like, what's. I was like, what's happening? All of a sudden, out of nowhere, at the very end of the workroom, she goes, my boobs won't slide with this. Thanks, clutch glue. And I was like, what the fuck was that?

[B]

Honestly, that was good. Good, good, good marketing, good at good advertising. Because now I looked it up, I'm like, ooh, maybe I need some clutch glue.

[A]

Does your brassiere move around when you're doing stand up?

[B]

It's not only for bras, Bob Klutch glue. As now I am a Klutch glue ambassador. Clutch glue is grew for many things. You can use it for eyelashes, you can use it for garments, you can use it for nails, you can use it for.

[A]

Is that true? Can you use clutch glue for your eyelash? Are you just giving out bad advice? Yeah, you just. This is the episode where you can. We call this in. The one where Monet just says shit. The one where Monet just says shit.

[B]

Oh, so Johnny Tsunami and J9542 and all these. They could just say anything, but I can't say anything. Got it.

[A]

Yes. Yes. That's how that works. So on the main stage, Crystal and Jasmine get to skip round one because they have the highest scores.

[C]

Wait, sorry, we have the judges looks first.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ok. Jacob, you know, Bob, can we go in order of the episode, please?

[A]

Okay, Monet. Yeah. I don't know what Monat's going through today, but it's. But to quote Christopher Versace is something fierce. Okay. Something fierce.

[B]

So I guess the memo was everyone wear white except RuPaul clearly, right? They all were told to wear a white suit. And so RuPaul is there.

[A]

I once went to a party for Bibi Zahara's 30th birthday party and she told everyone to wear like some color. She's like, the theme is red. Or something like white. Everyone wear this color. And we were all told to wear this. It was at XL nightclub over by the west side Highway. And then she showed up. I think she told us to wear white and then she showed up in like red. So she was the only one in the party wearing red. And I was like, this is, this is so bebe's harp.

[B]

It's so fierce, though. It's so fierce.

[A]

They look great. And I love this little tinsel. RuPaul's in her glove era. Is she?

[B]

She wore gloves twice this season. What do you mean? Somebody who did something once. Bobby, Like Monet is in her office era.

[A]

Look at her in her office. I don't know that. I don't know that it is once, though. I mean, I don't have all of her looks lined up side by side, but I feel like I've seen RuPaul in these like long, like leathery or like this, some sort of a long leathery glove more than once this season. And because it's such a big. Because it's such a bold thing, I was, I took note of it. It's not like her wearing earrings. It's like her wearing like these specific, like big ass gloves, you know, they look cute, though. I like them. I'm not very cute.

[B]

I like them. I like this tinsel dress as well. I love, I love that. I love. Carson's suit is like, it's like a. It's like a doy. Oh, no. Sorry. Carson. Why does he say Carson? Ross. Ross is like doily suit. That's kind of cute.

[A]

So let's go on to the first lip sync. It is silky versus Dawn. So Silky's ball is chosen. So she chooses her opponent. She chooses donuts.

[B]

Yeah, go ahead.

[A]

And dawn chooses Star Love by.

[C]

She's worn these gloves twice this season.

[A]

Twice. Yeah, I'm saying that that's, that's. Those are really big. Like, those gloves are super specific. I'm like, it's just.

[B]

That's not an era. Someone do something. Twice out of 12 episodes is an era.

[C]

She wore the gloves on episode three as well.

[A]

Right, Monet? You know, listen, just because you've been wrong for the first 15 minutes, don't try to act like I'm crazy, okay? No, but this is. You spent the first 15 minutes of the thing spreading misinformation. Don't act like I'm crazy, okay? Wake that up.

[B]

Shania A. Martin, 8761 says, like black people say you wear what black people see you wear something Twice. You love that sweater,

[C]

girl.

[A]

You love that sweater, don't you? So Silky's Ball is chosen. She chooses Dawn. Dawn gets to choose Star Love by Cheryl Lynn. Um, I've actually never heard this song. Have you heard the song? What, bitch? I love this song.

[B]

I have a. I have this song. Like, to do it as a number, and I was always afraid to do it because I was like, this is such a big song. I made this mix to do the Sheryl and Starlove number for like eight years. Sorry, sorry. Since, like, back when we were at. I was gonna do it at Look Queen one night. And I was like, no, this is a big song. And I would listen to it all the time, but never performed it. But I felt love this song.

[A]

Wait, Diego. Diego. Diego. Diego. Love Bug said Jacob. Check season 18 too. I've seen these gloves. Anyway, so little does dawn know this is actually one of Silky's staple songs. So Silky is feeling very, very confident. Obviously Silky's a very good lip syncer, but she is. Silky is in this one. She's a bit of a shady lip syncer.

[B]

Why? Why is she shady?

[A]

Like, like the getting, like the getting in front, arms up, move.

[B]

Because that's. Cause dawn kept cutting her off, though.

[A]

Oh, I, I, I, I can't remember. I just remember they got real close and then Silkie put her arms up and I was like. And then dawn did it back in the end. But I just feel like if it's gonna be like a take up space, dawn, you're too small to be trying to get anybody's way. I would just stand behind you. Are we okay?

[B]

I will say also, like, Silky's reveal was cute. Whatever. And the batons, like, I'm kind of over just having props for props sake. Like, she did like a little bit. She twirled the batons for maybe like two measures and then that was it. I was like, bitch, if you're gonna pull out fucking batons, twirl those goddamn batons. Give us like a fucking fantasy with them.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. I think that the thing is that Silky's probably not proficient in the batons. I will say I did not see the. Where she hid them. Nobody knows. I mean, she's not proficient in baton twirling. I feel like, I feel like Silky won, but it was not like a full sledge. Like, dawn didn't get scrubbed into the earth. But I do think Silky won that lip sync. What do you think?

[B]

Well, Dawn's thing, she was like, I know I cannot out. She, she says she says I I can't out lip sync her but I can't and I can't out prop Silky but if he I she's like I think I can out funny her and I just think dawn didn't glean into

[A]

I think she said stupid which you know drives me crazy. I can also write her stupid stupid.

[B]

Yeah and but I think that if dawn really wanted to do that, she should have really leaned more into like because this song is so camp. Sherilyn does these crazy vocal vocal things. There were so many like fun vocal. Like she could have mimicked some of the vocalises in this song to make it more stupid. But I don't think she went in farther enough and I do think Silky did beat her.

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[A]

How do you feel about Sookie being like, I'm going to take it easy, Dawn. How would you take that if someone said that said that about you and was that ass serious?

[B]

Oh, I would be so offended. But I also don't.

[A]

But then, but then what if they actually. But then she got beat? So, like.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I also. Wait, Dawn. Stealing Megami's line. What was Megami's line? Did you get this? Bob?

[A]

No. No.

[B]

I don't know either. Yeah, I think Silky did beat her. And saying that I'm gonna take it easy on you and she doesn't end up beating you, I would be offended. But Silky could never say that to me. Cause I don't think Silky could beat me in a lip sync. Do you think Silky could beat you in a lip sync?

[A]

Bob I think there's probably a song or a world, but I, even though I don't do a ton of lip syncing anymore, I think a lot of people probably don't know that I, I'm like a really good lip synchron and I was kind of, I was known for my comedy chops and my really specific and unique and tight lip sync in New York City. But a lot of people don't really know that about me. So I think I actually might be like a lip sync dark horse on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[B]

You know, also, people should YouTube your older stuff, like, saved people who, who

[A]

have all of my. Like, there's a few people who like, have seen my Look Queen videos and my Barracuda videos. But I was, I really, I really am. I really am. Not. Not to toot my own horn, but toot, loot. Toot, toot. I really am that lip sync girl.

[B]

You are.

[A]

I'm a little out of practice. I'm a little out of practice. Not gonna lie.

[B]

The knee's a little older than I am.

[A]

A little older. I am about 18 years older than I was when I started lip syncing. So let's go on to a' Keria versus Joey. So a' Keria gets to choose the song, and she chooses the Boss. This is one of my favorite disco songs. The Boss is easily, I think, my favorite disco song, which we could. They probably wouldn't do on Drag Race because it's mostly male led. And then this lady comes to the end is Relight My Fire. Relight my fire. Yeah. And then one question. She goes, I got to be strong enough to walk on through the night. Yeah. There's a new day on the other side. Yeah. It's like. It is a song that makes you warm. Like, you hear it and you're like, bitch. I am like, my blood is actually moving because of the song. Anyway, that being said, I love this song. How do you feel about this song?

[B]

I love the Boss. The Boss is a great, great, great, great, great song. Obviously, it always so warms my heart too, when a girl lip syncs a song and RuPaul like, is Lip syncing the words because he knows the music. You know what I mean? Obviously, RuPaul loves Diana Ross and he loves disco. So RuPaul knows a lot of these songs. I just love seeing old Ru being like. Like, she really gets into it.

[A]

Johnny's gentlemen said, we know Bob takes it seriously enough to deliver a body slam during the Lip Synchronous.

[B]

Hello.

[A]

Assaulting. He attacked me.

[B]

Assaulting a patron at a bar.

[C]

Girl.

[A]

I fought back. I defended myself.

[B]

I think it's a very good lip sync. And I was like, why doesn't a curia reveal? But then I realized, yeah, she's probably saving the reveal. She got to the next round.

[A]

But I gotta say, there's something really unsettling about watching a lip sync when you know a reveal is coming and not unsatisfying is what I'm looking for. When you don't get. Cause you can see she obviously has two reveals. She obviously is going to. You can see. You can see that her. Her headpiece goes into her wig. You can see the headpiece at the front of her wig when her wig slides back. And you can see her wearing the overcoat. And I feel like when you don't get that release, when you don't get that. When that. When that anticipation itch is not scratched, it feels unsettling. So I think that was part of. Probably part of her downfall. And, you know,

[B]

I also think Joey J. Did do a good job. I think that Joey J. Did a great job lip syncing as well. Like, I don't think it was Defaulted to Joey J. Because a' Keria's lip sync wasn't, didn't feel like, didn't settle you. I think it's because Joey J. Also did a really good job.

[A]

Also, RuPaul loves a nod to herself. And that is the dress that RuPaul wore to the Diana Ross tribute on VH1. Kinda ain't no kind of. That is the dress. I mean it's a recreation, it's not the dress. But she's doing her look, hair, everything. That is RuPaul's look. That is like the look.

[B]

No, RuPaul's hair. RuPaul's hair was big. And first of all, it was 627. It was big and it was like that. But the dress, okay, his hair was big too.

[A]

Jacob, go to, go to, go to Joey's Instagram and he's side by side.

[B]

It was a 16.

[A]

Go to Joey's Twitter and do a side by side.

[B]

Also, RuPaul's in a fur coat, not tinsel coat Mona.

[A]

Okay. It was not an exact record. It was obvious. And not only that, Joey RuPaul said to her, I wore that dress. So RuPaul saw it and I will.

[B]

And I listen to quote you and I don't know what you meant. I know what you said. You said that is the dress and it is not the dress.

[A]

Monet. Don't, don't be dense. You're being, you're being my friend. You're being intentionally obtuse. But she's doing, but RuPaul loves a nod. She love. And apparently she said to her, like, I wore that dress so. And so, so apparently me and RuPaul have better vision than you. And if you do it. And also now that it's the dress that RuPaul wore to the Dana Ross tribute and they're lip syncing to and then she, and she is doing it to a D. Ross song. So like, there's a lot of levels to why Joey Jay won that. I do, I, I, I feel like, I do feel like Joey Jay won this.

[B]

Yeah, I think so too. I, I think, I think a' Keri did a good job lip syncing but not getting the reveals, which is again, is so tough in this thing. Cause you wanna, you wanna, you know, you wanna give yourself room to grow later on. But it's like if you don't do it, then you, sometimes you don't move on.

[A]

Let's move on to Silky versus Joey J. So now Silky is put with Joey Jane. She picks Joey J because Joey J. So actually. It's actually quite smart, but it. But it didn't work out for her. She is actually not picking her challenger. She's picking the song she wants to do. Because Joey says she's going to choose all the white girl songs. And there's only one white girl song left. So she said that. There it is. Yeah, that's. That's the. That's a recreation. Anyway, um, so wait, go back. Wait, wait.

[B]

Jacob, go back to that. Still. A' Keria looks amazing there. A' keria looks like she's like a. Like. Like an angel coming out to.

[A]

That looks.

[B]

That is a great shot.

[A]

Is.

[B]

Is that an official picture? That's so good.

[A]

Might be a screen grab. Well, the thing is, someone told me this. If you wanna still focus, wear all white. Like, if you wear all white, you will still focus. Oh, that's what it was. We all. We all were red and. And BB Wore white. And I think that's where someone told. No. A costume that I told me. Or white. Just still. So, for example, there's a thing on. On in costuming where they. Do. They discourage you from wearing a white shoe if your outfit is not also white. Because everyone just looks down at your foot. Everyone. All your eyes. Your eyes are just trained to go toward, like, a big, bright thing. It's like when. It's like a fly flying toward the window. And if you want to pull focus, wear white and everyone will look at you. What? Why is that so funny?

[B]

Because Winning Rancher said it's. AI. I can't.

[A]

So Silky's choosing her song. I really love that fight moment they had. That was so. I thought it was really funny.

[B]

Yeah. And also Silky does this confetti thing. And I was like, girl, why didn't you put. But she didn't put the confetti out on the confetti line. I was like. She put it on, like, a random line. I was like, why wouldn't she do the confetti? When she says confetti, like, I was like, what? It was.

[A]

Well, she was trying to get to it. She was trying to find. I could see. I think. I think Silky was getting lost in the bits. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like. Because she was trying to get it out of her brassiere and she's walking upstage and, like, looking. Because, you know, you gotta. Y' all don't know this something about when you're on stage, I'm telling you right now, something as simple as, like, opening a hook when you're in your living room practicing when you're at rehearsal. And when I tell you it happens so easily when you're on stage, you have a brief moment of panic. Will I find the snap? Will I find the hook? Where is the glitter?

[B]

And you feel like if you don't get it in that moment, you'll never get it. You'll be stuck in this outfit forever. Your whole thing is you just start panicking.

[A]

Oh, girl, you start panicking. You ever really a dress, you'd be like. Like you're trying to get the hook. You'd be like, get that.

[B]

Oh, yeah, 100%. Because you took it out of here. You're going to fight or fly. You're like, if I don't find the hook now, I'm gonna be stuck here forever.

[A]

So I. I love that. I love that Joey. Oh, I love that Joey starts taking that money.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that was good.

[A]

During the long note. That's a great bit.

[B]

And another note in Silky, I was like, girl, going all the way upstage to reveal those five little confetti things sent me. It was like, oh, that girl do

[A]

at the front of the stage. I'm laughing at now someone says you're not. My dad says, now we gotta do a self checkout too, y'. All. We are clearly fighting for our lives. Go to the Patreon, click on the Google Slide and follow along. We are a small business. We're understaffed.

[B]

Now we got the self checkout. Y' all are so ridiculous.

[A]

Okay, but can I say real quick too, I. About this lip sync? I mean, I do think Joey did win this. I think Silky just got lost in the sauce of the bits. I think that she. I, I understand, like, planning them out, but maybe it wasn't rehearsed enough or she had that moment of panic we were talking about. But you can tell that Silky knows that she lost. Like, as soon as they're standing there, she is going through the motions. I actually feel bad for her. Like, she's. She is really, like, it looks like she's fighting back tears. You know what I mean?

[B]

Well, I don't because, like, no shame. But Silky went into this so confident. You going into this, you could not tell Tsilki that she was not going to be the lip sync champion this evening. So having it, like, I think the fact that it didn't pan.

[A]

I didn't.

[B]

She didn't look sad to me. I think she looked pissed. In my, in my opinion, I don't

[A]

have any qualms with Silky going in Confident. I have no qualms with someone being like, I'm about to. I'm about to slay you hoes. I'm about to slay you hoes down.

[B]

I'm not mad at it. I'm just saying, like, you. I was like. She thought she was going to. When she did it, she was like, she. I think. I think she gagged herself because Silky has, you know, to herself and to. Because she did so well in that last lip sync thing. And she fancies herself one of the best lip synchers from Drag Race. So the fact that Joey J, someone who has not worn a single lip sync all season, beat her. I think she was literally like, oh, my God, this white bitch just beat me.

[A]

I think you just got a little joy from watching Silky go home after all the drama. All the drama.

[B]

I was not in no drama.

[A]

Okay. You're not in the drama. Okay. Babala directed his drama. I said okay. I said okay.

[B]

Anyway. But she was so mad.

[A]

Go ahead, Go ahead.

[B]

So mad. After she got eliminated, she did not say goodbye to Rue. She did not do one last final bit. Bit. By the time she's just like, okay, and she walks off stage, I was gagged. I know, I know. She was holding back tears when Jay was at home. Like,

[A]

I think. I think she was holding back tears, to be honest. But then what makes it even crazy that, like, Suki goes and joins Akira and Dawn on the couch, and dawn and a' Keri are like, I'm so happy for Joey J. Oh, my God. She deserves it. Jesus Christ. When you're a queen like Joey, you deserve to be queens. Like Silky. I mean, they do all that, but it was like. And Silky was sitting there like, fuck my drag. Kennedy versus Crystal, who do Knock on Wood by Amy Stewart. Because their song is chosen for them, right? Because it's the last song and they are chosen as each other's challengers. It's like, it's. No, it's because. Did you watch the Bitch Shut the fuck up. Monet's Day. Not watching the show.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. I did not watch it at all. I did not watch a single part of this episode.

[C]

Can you talk a little bit about Drag Race reusing certain lip syncs? Like this one, specifically with Sasha versus Anitra for the finale, which was a really good one. Like, do you feel like they're doing a disservice to the queens by, you know, making them lip sync to these already iconic.

[B]

I don't think it does a dissociar To Queens. I'm like, there's plenty of songs that I've lip synced after, like, that people have done before me in shows. Not, like, specifically, like, in one show, but, like, I don't think draggers have to have a new lip sync for every episode of the show. Like, they're gonna have to reuse songs. And it's about. It's always also interesting seeing another person's interpretation of the song. So, like, for example, the Anetra vs Sasha Colby was a very different interpretation from what Crystal and Jasmine did.

[D]

Like.

[B]

Cause Crystal is such a different queen. Crystal is not like Anetra. She's not like Sasha. So she does. Her take on it is so different. So I think that's what's exciting, like, seeing the same songs done a different way. They did Mighty Real as well, right? Didn't you do Mighty Real?

[A]

Yeah, I did Mighty Real. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And it was a very different. I forgot who did it, but it was different than Bob and Derek doing it, for sure.

[A]

I mean, I will say this. If they can reuse Queens four and five times, we can do a song twice. You know what I mean?

[B]

Have we had a song three times yet? No.

[A]

Probably.

[B]

No. Let me not say no. They're, like, dumb when they use stupid. Yeah. Cause also internationally, in the uk, they do like American songs too. Like, have they had some of our songs? Our songs. Have they done repeats over there?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Monet said America.

[C]

In fact, I think. Bloop, bloop, bloop. One of the ones from this season, this episode, I think they've done Star Love across, but maybe it was a different one. I could be wrong.

[A]

Okay, so in this lip sync, Crystal says that she wants to take down Jasmine because Jasmine called her untalented. This is, like, probably the closest we're gonna get to shade from Crystal Method. And she even felt like she was like, oop, Did I just say that? Was I bad? Um, I will say this to both of them. Why even have a coat if I can see your whole outfit underneath?

[B]

Literally what I wrote. I said, Jasmine is already showing. Her reveal is wild.

[A]

Both of them did. Both of them did.

[B]

Yeah. But Jasmine was like, Blair, like, blaring. Crystal was at least, you know, a little.

[A]

Um. Yeah, I feel like, okay, what I'm trying to do that thing where I don't. I'm trying to. I'm trying to be a better person

[B]

is what I'm trying to do. Well, don't be. Say what? Say what the fuck you gonna say with your chest I feel like you

[A]

meant glaring and not blaring, but I was like, you're not gonna let it go, but you forced it out of me.

[B]

You know what, nigga? You do a little shit and I let it go all the time.

[A]

Do you know how many things I've let go this episode? Bitch, do you have any idea how many things I've let go this episode? Okay, that one. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna be better. So let's talk about this lip sync. K they are. Do I, I don't, I don't think either one of them is gathering. Like, no, no one scrubbed the floor with anyone. Um, and also, you're no shade. Neither of y' all coats is pretty enough to justify.

[B]

I like, Crystal coat was. Crystal's coat was pretty, but it looks

[A]

like a cover up. Like, like, for example, I'm trying to think about, like, RuPaul in that Diana Ross tribute. That coat looks like a beautiful accessory. It's not hiding something. It's. I think RuPaul's coat was adding to the garment. You know what I mean?

[B]

I was, I guess I'm not on the same. You, you have this. Really, you have a boner for a heyd reveal.

[A]

I, I, I'm not, I'm not on

[B]

it like, that way. Like, I'm like, I know it's because, because this is the lip sync Lala Peruza and I know these bitches are preparing for three lip sync puruza as well. And because I know these girls are trying to prepare and trying to win three lip syncs in a row. Like, it doesn't really bother me that you can see the lip sync. Like, the, like, like their reveal coats. Like, we've all been to shows. I will say how many times there are, like, in my opinion, there are like three reveal coats. You can do that. Don't look like reveal coats. Like, it just is what it is.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I think, I think there's ways to be more creative, but. And I just don't live for it. But that's just, it's just my personal opinion. Um, and Jasmine, I think Jasmine takes this loss very well. I, for me, honestly, if Jasmine won, if Crystal won, I'd have been like, neither here nor there. I will say this. I do think that Crystal just has more to offer the competition. I mean, it's the last episodes. I don't know how much she has, like, like, I don't think Jasmine's next lip sync would have been much different than her first one.

[B]

Yeah. I would agree with that. Yeah.

[A]

You know, not that Crystals was either.

[B]

This, this. This was to fit Gamer. That was Crystal. It was both their first lip syncs of the night. Oh, okay. Yeah.

[A]

So let's go ahead.

[B]

They let the girls change for the. Which they had. I don't think they've done. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think they've let the girls change for the final lip sync before, but they let them change this time, which is nice. So they can be, like, fresh and not in some thing they've been covering up for the past two lip syncs.

[A]

Yeah, I like that. And then you don't have to plan. You don't have to. You don't have to space out your reveals. You can just redo a whole different number. I like that they did that. I really enjoyed. So they do Crystal Method versus Joey J. They do MacArthur's park by Donna Summer. Donna Summers. Summers.

[B]

One Summer.

[A]

Donna Summer.

[B]

One Summer. It's One Summer. She's Donna Summer. One Summer.

[A]

Donna Summer. Yeah. And first of all, it looks like Chicken Little versus the Heat Miser. These outfits are sending me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know why.

[B]

Dressed like fire.

[A]

Because Crystal Method. Because. Because. Because Crystal Method. That's why. Can I ask you a question? I'm not trying to trigger you, but the. The runner up gets $20,000 for. For being a runner up on RuPaul's Drag Race.

[B]

I thought it was 2025.

[A]

For being a runner up on Rupaul's Drag Race All Stars. 11. And Monet is currently the least funded. Miss Congeniality. Were you watching that? Did you have a little. A little feeling when she said that?

[B]

To be honest, no. Like, I'm just so used to it. This. This show stays doing that to me. They did it to me on Miss Congeniality. They did it for me. For All Stars 7. I just. I. I don't know. I don't know what this. What this boner is. They have to not, not give me money. It's kind of gag. It's gaggy to me.

[A]

Do you think you know about your upbringing and that's why probably I don't want to give you any more money.

[B]

Probably. I would assume that's why.

[A]

Probably this lesson.

[B]

I will say Crystals. I did not see her third reveal coming. Obviously, I knew the fucking.

[A]

Maybe I wrote that down too. Truly. I was like, oh, yeah.

[B]

I was like, oh, wow, that's good. And her body looks amazing. I think the outfit is cool. I do. This is such a Small detail. Right before, she was like a black flame candle, but then it became purple flames. That kind of bothered me. But that's literally. That's such a small, tiny detail that my brain, like, saw. Other than that, I think she looks pretty. She looks really good.

[A]

Yeah. I think actually would have been a really good progression if the. Cause, you know, as flames get hotter, they change colors. So like a. A cooler flame is like. Like a darker, like a orangey, and then it gets like a bright yellow, and then it turns blue. Blue, and then when it's really hot, it turns white. That actually would have been a really interesting progression if the flame got hotter. I don't know if the people would have picked up on it. But it's. But it's a really interesting. It's an interesting idea, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And I think Joey did a good job. I. This. This big chicken also. She said. She said chicken feathers. I'm like, those are not. Those are ostrich feathers, girl.

[A]

I think she was just doing a nod to her chicken feather thing, but it's just an odd.

[B]

It's just a nod. She. She wore chicken feathers on something.

[A]

Yeah, she. She came in and chicken feathers. And they all commented on how she had chicken feathers on her entrance on her first season.

[B]

Jasmine mentioned it in another episode too. She was, like, teasing her about it, I think. Yeah, I think I vaguely remember that. But yeah, I think it was a good lip sync. But I do think that Chris, that. Crystal one.

[A]

Crystal Method is. Do you want to induct your sister into the. Into the Drag Race hall of Fame?

[B]

Enjoying you, Crystal Method. On behalf of me and the rest of the girls sitting in the hall of Fame, welcome to the hall of Frames. It's very lovely here. We get bi weekly dustings, so make sure that your frame is ready to be dusted. Bi weekly. And what's her name? Sasha. Not Sasha. Colby. Jinkx Monsoon will be sending you your welcome packet.

[A]

So she said, I feel so proud to represent for Latinas, and I'm also dedicating this to all you weird. All you weirdos out there. Life is about coloring outside of the line. So get out there and get wild. Um, there's. There's been a bit of a conversation about how, like, how Hispanic and Latina she is.

[B]

I can't with that. I can't with that. I hate that conversation. I hate. I hate that. Really annoys me talking about how black, how Latin someone is.

[A]

Well, they feel. Some people feel like she's not Hispanic enough. I was actually Talking to Jill Sparkles the other day about it.

[B]

Cha cha cha Latin.

[C]

She.

[A]

She. Yeah, she's not a cha cha cha Latina. And I was talking to some Hispanic queens the other day about it, and I'm just interested in the perspective. Like, I think some people are just. I think some people are annoyed that she doesn't speak Spanish. And I'm like, is it her fault that she doesn't speak Spanish?

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I mean, yes.

[B]

I mean, Selena City doesn't speak. Doesn't speak Spanish.

[A]

I mean, I have a friend, Alfredo, my drag daughter, who's Puerto Rican and can't speak Spanish, even though both his parents speak Spanish. But he just. They wouldn't teach him Spanish. They just. They wouldn't speak Spanish in the house.

[B]

And I don't know.

[A]

I don't. I'm not Hispanic, so I don't really have a lot of skin in this game, but I feel like if I was a Hispanic person who didn't speak Spanish, it would probably annoy me.

[B]

It's. So. I just think it's a weird conversation to have about people, like, to. To. To judge.

[A]

Someone said Roxy about to call her oreo or whatever. Oh, God. Vanilla churro.

[B]

Isn't Roxy a Hispanic? Does she speak Spanish?

[A]

They said Roxy about to call her Hispanic.

[B]

Oh, God. Yeah. It's a weird conversation to have. Again, I'm not Latino, so I can't. I'm not part of it. But I am black, and when people discuss with people's blackness, I think it's so crazy.

[A]

Sabo kids or what is a sabo kid? No sabo kids. No sabo. What does that mean?

[C]

No sabo means I don't speak. So it is complicated that you're a child. You know, Latin does not.

[A]

It's the question is the language what makes you Hispanic? You know what I mean? Again, I'm not Hispanic. I don't know. I don't speak Spanish, you know?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Ooh. But honestly, a vanilla churro sounds fierce.

[A]

So the Pablitos sell strawberry churros, and they're delicious.

[B]

Churro de blanquito, churro de blanco.

[C]

Do you.

[A]

I don't think blanco is vanilla.

[B]

I know. I'm just saying. But in my mind, it's like. It's like a white churro.

[A]

I think it's vanille. I think it's vanille. I think it's vanilla. Do you have you.

[C]

Do you.

[A]

Do you eat at Pals?

[B]

Of course, bitch. Didn't I introduce. No, I think you introduced me to it.

[C]

Too.

[B]

No. You know, Tao introduced me to Pablitos, I think. And in honor of this conversation. Yeah, what's tal. In honor of this conversation, I think we need to have another Spanish teleprompter challenge. Jacob, can you bring up the Spanish teleprompter? Let's see how much bubbles.

[A]

We can't even get the visuals.

[B]

Yeah, that's not going to work.

[A]

I can pull it out, Bob. Now everyone's thinking about us.

[B]

Bob, you dated a Spanish speaker for a long time. Do you think your Spanish has progressed?

[A]

Okay, that was three years ago.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And his Spanish was as good as Valentina's.

[B]

Wait, it's the notion to be able to Is the nails and to learn another language and culture besides American and not being proactive to do so.

[A]

But, I mean, if you don't speak the language, does that mean you don't know the culture? So congratulations, Crystal. I will say this. I was thinking with this today, y', all, you know, do you want to talk about how RuPaul didn't walk down

[C]

and give her this episode?

[B]

I was just about to say that. I'm like the fucking pit crew. This new pit crew member that everyone's gagging over, like, good for him.

[A]

That's your co star from fucking Stop that Train.

[C]

Stop that Train.

[A]

Yeah, the other episode, I was Ginger Biloba. I'm not. No, you were in more of the movie than I was.

[B]

Anyway, I know.

[C]

This is.

[A]

You don't know.

[B]

Acting like, we were number one in two in the call sheet. I was. I filmed my thing. I was on set for eight hours. That includes getting in and out of makeup.

[A]

I wasn't on the call sheet. How did you not know this? Did you watch the movie?

[B]

Monet, he was a guest judge, so

[A]

how do you not know he. Monet, how do you where. What's happening between the ears?

[B]

He's a guest judge and a pit. Like, so. Wait, did he ask.

[A]

Wait, he's not a pit. It's a gag. He's not a pit crew member. Monet. It's just a gag. It was just a. It was like.

[B]

Has he been here all season?

[A]

What is. This is why I call you Slow Mo. Ah. All right, let's. Let's. Y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

This is the Internet. We'll. We'll. We'll go.

[B]

Wait, we're talking about. It's crazy that RuPaul doesn't give.

[A]

Like, can we talk about it untucked?

[B]

No, but this part of the episode.

[A]

Okay, go ahead. RuPaul, like, RuPaul like, is it so

[B]

crazy for RuPaul to take the sweatpants off and just come back on stage if we're not going to do it at the theater? Just come back on and just at least give me the scepter. Just at least the scepter.

[A]

No, it's going to be Rocky from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[B]

I don't get it because I've never seen that movie or the show because

[A]

Rocky wears gold booty shorts in the show.

[B]

Oh, got it. Rocky is the Ted Curry character.

[A]

I don't know who. He's a muscle. He's the guy. He's the blonde man with a tan.

[B]

Oh, got it, got it, got it. All right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right,

[A]

all right. So, yeah, we will see you all over on Untucked. If you want to hear our thoughts on Untucked in this week's drama and all drag news, you can join our patreon at all tiers and you'll get it. We do three podcasts a week over on our Patreon, so feel free to join us over there. We do Sibling Rivalry, Current Eventsary, Sibling Watchery, Untucked and. No, that's three. There we go. I got whatever money I got now. Now I'm stroking.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[D]

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