Brother the Cloud

Summary

Single Podcast Theory - A Pearl Jam Podcast

Episode: Brother the Cloud
Hosts: Brad Lyons & Brad Blazek
Date: February 2, 2022

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Brad Lyons and Brad Blazek reunite after a short hiatus to discuss "Brother the Cloud," a new single from Eddie Vedder’s solo album Earthling. The Brads catch up on recent job changes, personal anecdotes, and listener mail before diving deep into the new song—covering its musical style, emotional weight, production, lyrics, and possible inspiration. They speculate about the song’s connection to Chris Cornell, reflect on grief, and ruminate on the evolving Pearl Jam universe. The show maintains its signature warmth, honesty, and camaraderie throughout.

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Episode Breakdown

1. Personal Catch-Up & Banter (00:00–12:00)

• Brad Blazek shares a major life change: Lowe’s, his longtime employer, eliminated box truck delivery, thrusting him into an uncertain position. Ultimately, he secures a transfer to another store, preserving his job but at a financial and emotional cost.
  • “Basically my job is gone. So I’m just like an extra body…” (03:38)
  • “The upside is Monday through Friday, weekends off. Ok, I’ll be the only driver…” (04:44)
• The hosts reflect on work upheaval and empathize with displaced coworkers.
• Brad Lyons recounts having a mild, asymptomatic case of Covid:
  • “I went and got tested, just thinking, well, I definitely don’t have it. And then, positive…” (06:56)
• General chit-chat about music production, podcasting workload, and why recording has slowed (“December’s always dead, then you get slammed in January” – 08:57).

2. The State of Pearl Jam & Podcasting (09:28–13:00)

• Discussion about the Pearl Jam touring status, awaiting news after cancellations.
  • "They sent that message out...saying, like, yeah, we're gonna reschedule and we'll let you know." (09:51)
• Birthday well-wishes and aging humor: “Once I hit 40...I have to do the math in my head.” (11:03)

3. Listener Emails & Tattoos (14:06–24:29)

• Read and discuss listener emails:
  • Chris Thomas shares a No Code-inspired tattoo:
    • “That’s kind of cool that, like, we inspired him.” (16:12)
  • The Brads exchange tattoo stories; Brad B forgets he already has a stickman tattoo.
• Other topics:
  • Longtime listeners send updates, including podcasting ventures inspired by Single Podcast Theory.
  • Discussion about the logistics of podcasting, time constraints, and the hope of ramping up once Pearl Jam tours resume.

4. Social & Cultural Digressions (25:00–38:00)

• Banter about current events, “First Amendment auditor” YouTube videos, and frustrations with modern public discourse.
• Brief conversation about the Neil Young vs. Spotify controversy, freedom of expression, and media polarization:
  • “It feels like we’re always having the wrong conversation.” (29:14)
  • “People are so unwilling to listen to people that don’t think the same way they do.” (31:46)

5. Listener Appreciation & Pearl Jam Community (38:00–39:31)

• Thank-yous for donations to MusiCares and a new Patreon supporter (Hans Burkhart).
  • “Thanks, Tom. We really appreciate it. It means a lot. For real.” (36:09)
• Brad B gets emotional about a Rearviewmirror + rave dancer meme video.
• Appreciation for the tight-knit Pearl Jam fan community.

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Main Segment: Eddie Vedder's "Brother the Cloud" (39:31–57:00)

Album & Band Context (39:36–42:33)

• Discuss Vedder’s upcoming album, *Earthling *, and its all-star band: Chad Smith (drums), Chris Chaney (bass), Josh Klinghoffer and Andrew Watt (guitars/producer).
• Mention of possible future Pearl Jam recording with Andrew Watt (“Justin Bieber producer” clickbait headlines).

Song Reactions & Listening (42:33–47:18)

• Immediate positive reactions from both Brads.
• Live listening session:
  • Praises for dynamic “quiet-loud” structure and “big Eddie chorus” (43:39).
  • Brad B admits he hasn’t always connected with Eddie’s solo work but “this stuff is awesome. This is like a rock band.” (44:35)

Lyric and Emotional Analysis (49:23–56:43)

• Discuss potential inspiration: grief over Chris Cornell’s suicide.
  • Refer to a recent NYT interview where Eddie is guarded but transparent about the song’s origins (“It’s kind of obvious what it’s about...” – 50:34).
• Explore stages of grief and catharsis in the lyrics:
  • “It goes from being kind of like love sick for your friend and sad to...it’s the anger stage.” (52:26)
  • Discusses lines: “Promises even to yourself can’t be kept” and the gut-punch of “Safe for me. F--- you.”
• Personal stories about loss, relating to the song.
• Praises vulnerability in songwriting: allowing space to be publicly angry at a lost friend is both rare and emotionally honest.

Musical Discussion (56:46–59:58)

• Brad B: “It’s rock. These are rock songs. It’s a band.”
• Contrast with Pearl Jam’s sound: Chad Smith’s drumming and Chris Chaney’s bass provide a different feel, even if the core songwriting is Vedder-esque.
• Note the song’s structure, the journey of melody and arrangement, the “twists and turns.”
• “Not drenched in some kind of weird self-pity...it rocks.” (59:48)

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Album Anticipation & Collaborators (60:04–63:14)

• Excitement about other collaborations on Earthling: Elton John, Stevie Wonder, Ringo Starr, and rumored use of audio from Eddie’s father.
• Reflection on how the three singles released so far are all different, raising anticipation for the full album.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On job loss and change:
  “Basically my job is gone. So I’m just like an extra body or...go spend the day in f---ing tool world. Something I have no idea about.” (03:38) — Brad Blazek

• On Eddie’s songwriting:
  “From a songwriting standpoint and from like a human standpoint...to see him be vulnerable enough to let that anger out, I guess, kind of publicly in a song...says a lot.” (55:05) — Brad Lyons

• On the community:
  “Getting messages like this really make me feel. Feel really good. Make you feely feely? Yes. All the feelings.” (36:09) — Brad Blazek

• About "Brother the Cloud" lyrics:
  “It’s almost like this song has like a couple bridges...there’s no previous reference for this level of pain. God damn, that verse.” (53:09) — Brad Lyons

• On media polarization:
  “People are so unwilling to listen to people that don’t think the same way they do. And it’s just automatically, if you disagree with these couple things, then you’re an evil… but I’m not gonna talk to you about it.” (31:46) — Brad Lyons

• On Eddie’s creative age:
  “He became the wise, not old man, but you know what I’m saying? The wise old timey.” (56:29) — Brad Lyons

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Brad B's Work Situation: 00:55–06:17
• Covid & Personal Updates: 06:21–09:28
• State of Pearl Jam (Tour News): 09:36–11:59
• Listener Emails and Tattoos: 14:06–18:51
• MusiCares Donation Segment: 35:01–36:16
• "Brother the Cloud" Song Discussion: 39:31–57:00
• Lyric Analysis: 49:23–56:43
• Album Anticipation: 60:04–63:14
• Humorous Domestic Clatter (“quality control”): 63:45–64:43

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a heartfelt, sometimes hilarious, but always sincere celebration of Eddie Vedder’s new release and the enduring power of the Pearl Jam community. The Brads’ discussion of “Brother the Cloud” is both a technical and emotional deep-dive, capturing how Vedder’s songwriting grapples with loss, anger, love, and remembrance. Anyone curious about the song—or wanting to reconnect with the Pearl Jam podcasting world—will find this episode a rewarding listen.

Transcript

[Brad Blaszek]

And then they saw me in a.

[Brad Lyons]

Bra, and that was it. What's going on? Pearl Jam nerds. You're listening to single podcast Theory. I'm Brad Lyons.

[Brad Blaszek]

And I'm Brad Blaszek.

[Brad Lyons]

Hey, bud.

[Brad Blaszek]

What's going on, man? It's good to hear your voice.

[Brad Lyons]

Good to hear your voice too, bro. What's been going on with you?

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, my God. Do you want to try to keep it short story? I'll try to keep it short.

[Brad Lyons]

Try. Try Lowe's.

[Brad Blaszek]

You know I work at Lowe's. Everyone knows that, right? Pretty much.

[Brad Lyons]

Yep. Yep.

[Brad Blaszek]

So that's my job. My work. They dropped a major bomb on us. You know, I work in delivery.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. 20. Over 20 years.

[Brad Lyons]

Yep.

[Brad Blaszek]

What have I done with my life? So don't do that.

[Brad Lyons]

Dude.

[Brad Blaszek]

They can. They. They sat us down, each driver, and told us that Lowe's is doing away with box truck deliveries all together.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, wow.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, so. And now I'm. I'm in a weird position. I have a cdl, you know, license. I can drive. Drive the big rigs, right. We have a big, big flatbed truck, but we have another driver that. That does that Monday through Friday, right? So they told me your. The other two guys that drive the box truck, they're like, they can quit or they can stay in the store and work in a department. In the store, you have a CDL license, so you will technically still be in delivery, but you won't be driving the truck, because the guy that does it now, Monday through Friday, he's going to keep his job. So you will just be like. You pull stuff for him. But we have, like, two other load pullers, right? So they're like, we'll. We'll find stuff for you to do. Don't worry about that. And your schedule, you'll probably be coming in, like, normally I come in like six to three every day. Yeah, your schedule's gonna be ten to six.

[Brad Lyons]

And you don't like that, do you?

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, no. And it's not like. It's not Monday through Friday. It's every other weekend off. So I work seven days in a row, including the weekend.

[Brad Lyons]

The.

[Brad Blaszek]

Then I'm off Monday and Tuesday, work three days, and I'm off the weekend. Then it's seven days in a row.

[Brad Lyons]

Wait, that's what you're doing right now?

[Brad Blaszek]

No, that's what the new schedule would be. Oh, right now I'm on this weird. I can't even. You don't even want me to explain it to you?

[Brad Lyons]

Okay. Yeah, I don't get a headache.

[Brad Blaszek]

I work like one week. I work six days in a row and then it's like two days off. Work three days, two days off work. Work four days. Then I'm off like Sunday and Friday. You know what I mean? So it's like a. It's just a rotating schedule. But this new schedule would. Would suck because I would be coming in at 10 and they would be like, everything's pulled because the load pullers come in at 6am, right.

[Brad Lyons]

So they're just gonna stick you on the floor.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, yeah. Why don't you go out back and clean up the pallet trailer.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

Where everyone just throws shitty pallets. Why don't you go out and paint the lines in the parking lot? Hey, we need you to go clean up the bathrooms because basically my job is gone. So I'm just like an extra body or. Yeah, go spend the day in fucking tool world. Something I have no idea about. Like, you know, where's the. Where's the claw hammers? I don't know. So. But.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, man.

[Brad Blaszek]

But flip side, if. If anyone remembers, I used to work. Right? Now I work in Paris, two miles from my house. But for like the previous 10 years, I worked up in Kentucky, like 20 miles away.

[Brad Lyons]

Right?

[Brad Blaszek]

That store does not have a CDL driver. They haven't had one for like six months. So I guess I'm going back to the Kentucky store.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, wow.

[Brad Blaszek]

Which. Which has its pros and cons. The biggest thing is Tennessee does not have a state tax, but Kentucky does.

[Brad Lyons]

Right?

[Brad Blaszek]

And they also have a city tax in the city that I'm going to. So my pay is going to stay technically the same, but I'm going to be taking a pay cut by way of taxes. So that kind of sucks. But the upside is Monday through Friday, weekends off. Ok, I'll be the only driver and I'll be on the flatbed truck, which is like. It's got its ups and downs, but it's. It's a lot physically easier than.

[Brad Lyons]

That's good.

[Brad Blaszek]

The box truck. So was that. Was that long enough explanation? But that dude, that just like that. That day when they told us that was just crazy. It was just one of those, like, you're out. Out of body experience all day trying to figure out what the.

[Brad Lyons]

What we're gonna do.

[Brad Blaszek]

Because the dude I'm driving with is like, he doesn't have a. He kind of doesn't have a job anymore unless he stays in at Lowe's. Like, they wanted him to be like in lumber. Just being A lumber associate. And those. Those dudes, like, they'll close, they'll open. They'll have, like, a crazy schedule. So all in all, I kind of came out pretty good compared to these dudes, but, like, I just feel terrible for them.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

So anyway, that's how my last few weeks have been going.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, man, that's a lot of change in the job world.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Well. So everything else good, though?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, cool. Actually, yeah. Everything's pretty good.

[Brad Lyons]

Awesome. Yeah, man. Well, let's see. I. I got Covid. Since we talked last.

[Brad Blaszek]

Did you really? Did I know this?

[Brad Lyons]

Probably not, because I didn't. I didn't really have any public symptoms. No, I didn't. I didn't, like, get sick. I should stop saying I was asymptomatic. But, I mean, I had. I went out of paranoia because it.

[Brad Blaszek]

Was the week between.

[Brad Lyons]

Christmas and New Year's and everyone had gotten it, and.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

And so I just was like. Because I'm around my parents a lot, and I went and got tested, just thinking, well, I definitely don't have it. And then positive, two tests, a PCR and a rapid. Came back. Yeah, positive. So I tested positive on Wednesday, and then I tested again on Sunday, and I was negative. So. Wow. It, like, went right through me without any, you know, I didn't have any fever. I didn't have any aches. I had, like.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, that's good.

[Brad Lyons]

I like some sniffles one day, but I just thought it was, like, allergies because it had gotten up to, like, 70 degrees down here.

[Brad Blaszek]

Right. Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

You know what I'm saying? So.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yep.

[Brad Lyons]

Anyway, so I'm totally fine, you know.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, good. That's. I'm glad to hear that you had it, and it was. It worked out good.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. So, I don't know. Just been making records, mixing records. Yeah, works.

[Brad Blaszek]

Have you been playing?

[Brad Lyons]

Have you. What? What do you mean?

[Brad Blaszek]

Like, have you been playing live? I know you played a bunch. It seemed like you played a bunch of shows a couple months ago.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. And then. No, I haven't been a lot of that stuff. I mean, there are shows going on down here, but it kind of took a dip again. And I've just been. Yeah, I've just finished mixing and producing and mixing two records and have just started two more.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, yeah, dude, I see you. I see you on Instagram all the time. Like, man, this motherfucker's working.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, working. I mean. Yeah, this is good. Yeah, totally. The podcast. Because I run all the podcasting here at the studio, and. Yeah, the Ones I produce have been, you know, just busy going well.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Like every week type of thing. So the work side, it's. It's all good, which I'm super thankful for, because December was. I. I know this, too. Every December for me is there's no work, you know.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

And then, you know, about a week and a half into January, it always, like, you get slammed, you know.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

So it's like, I've had records going on, all these podcasts going on, and then got hit with some, like, commercial work that was unexpected, which is great. I don't say that as a complaint, but, you know, you go from, oh, my God, am I a loser that doesn't ever do anything to. Yeah, can I give some of this stuff back?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

So. Which is a good problem to have, but. Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, I guess that kind of goes into, you know, why we haven't been. Been recording as often as we like to.

[Brad Lyons]

It's just not, you know, we've talked about before, but it's just like, not a whole lot of Pearl Jam stuff going on.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, that's part of it, too.

[Brad Lyons]

And I guess not really until whenever they say the tour is back on.

[Brad Blaszek]

You know, right at the time of this recording, we're still. We're still waiting, guys. They sent that message out and it was right before Christmas saying, like, yeah, we. We're gonna reschedule and we'll let you know. They said early in the new year.

[Brad Lyons]

Cool.

[Brad Blaszek]

So I expect, like, January 1st. That's early to me, because our tickets.

[Brad Lyons]

Were supposed to be in April originally. Right. Is that when it was?

[Brad Blaszek]

No, March.

[Brad Lyons]

No, April. No, it was April.

[Brad Blaszek]

I think it was April.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, it was like, mid. Early April.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, they better get on it because they said it's going to be in May, and May is three months away.

[Brad Lyons]

Isn't that crazy?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, hopefully they're really hoping something soon.

[Brad Blaszek]

What is that called when you. You speak it out to the world, you just say, like, crazy stuff.

[Brad Lyons]

Manifesting.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes, I'm. I'm manifesting. The Nashville show is going to be on my birthday. May 14th.

[Brad Lyons]

Hell, yeah. That'd be pretty dope. That would be cool.

[Brad Blaszek]

Speaking of birthdays, Happy birthday, buddy.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, it was my birthday.

[Brad Blaszek]

Birthday on Sunday.

[Brad Lyons]

Saturday.

[Brad Blaszek]

Saturday, man. Nice.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, dude. Feel exactly the same. Everything's cool.

[Brad Blaszek]

I was talking to my buddy Don, and he. We were some. Something came up about our ages, and I'm like, I don't know how old I am. Like, I forget he was giving me shit. But, like, once I hit 40. Like I just, I have to do the math in my head, right? Like 75. Okay, 25. 40 is 2. 2. That's 20. 20. You know, like, okay, 40. I think I'm 46.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, I'll be.

[Brad Blaszek]

I just. It's just a weird thing.

[Brad Lyons]

Yep. Yeah. I don't ever think about how old I am. Maybe I should more. Maybe I should realize that I'm much more of an or supposed to be much more of an adult than I am sometimes. But. Well, yeah. So anyway, all that to say, but we wanted to check in. There's a new Eddie single that came out recently. So we wanted to use as an excuse to get together and record something and, you know, talk about this new.

[Brad Blaszek]

Song, which new album coming out y.

[Brad Lyons]

With a badass band. But before we get into that, we should probably go ahead and do some emails.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes, sir.

[Brad Lyons]

You're up first. Huh?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes. Excuse me.

[Brad Lyons]

Gross.

[Brad Blaszek]

Dude. I had a long fucking day.

[Brad Lyons]

I know, I'm sorry, but.

[Brad Blaszek]

Long day. It was one of those things where we didn't have a lot. We had five or six stops. Couple refrigerators, couple easy ones. Call this lady first thing in the morning and tell her we're going to be there between like 9 and 10. Well, I told them you can't come till 5pm and that's late. Like, we usually get off at 2 or 3.

[Brad Lyons]

Right.

[Brad Blaszek]

And just, long story short, went back and forth with her and we, we, we were done with everything at 11 o' clock and then we just sat for four hours.

[Brad Lyons]

God, I don't miss retail at all. Holy shit. Dude.

[Brad Blaszek]

So, which sounds great. Like, hey, you get paid to just sit on your ass for three hours. I mean, that, that's kind of cool, but it's so boring. And it was just sitting there and it's like I kind of would rather just get it done and go home early.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

But we didn't. We had to just sit because I'm not going back to the store. I hate working the store. Yeah. So then we get there and the husband's been home all day, just sitting around eating Cheetos, playing video games. But she had to be there.

[Brad Lyons]

Them. Yeah. Oh, dude. Oh, dude, that's the worst, man. Well, I'm glad that for a minute there when you were telling like the tale of what's going on at work, it sounded like you were just going to be like, you know, like the homeless guy. That's nice. That just keeps showing up at a place and. You got anything I can do? You know, Can I wash the windows.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. $10, 60 year old Walmart greeter. The Lowe's greeter.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. They're sending you out to do all the jobs no one else wants to do.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

We got trash to take out. Yeah, man. So I'm glad it didn't work out that way.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, it's gonna be good. It's gonna be all right.

[Brad Lyons]

All right. Anyway, back to the emails.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes. Chris Thomas writes in Tattoo. Hey, guys. I wanted to share this with you because you were a big part of the inspiration for this. I was driving home with my wife between Kansas City and Milwaukee back in July. My 40th birthday was coming up in October, and I suddenly had a thought of what I wanted to do. Getting a tattoo was something I had always considered but never committed to it because I had no idea what. I knew I wanted something Pearl Jam related. So my epiphany was due to my love for the album artwork on no Code. After listening to both of your opinions on no Code, it brought me much closer to the record. So this image came to mind and I told my wife, this is what I want for my birthday. I had a schedule at a month after my birthday, but I got it done yesterday, and I'm very happy with the results. Forced to endure what I could not forgive Chris, and obviously he sent a picture.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, yeah. Man.

[Brad Blaszek]

Of a fucking killer. No Code. It's the, like, triangle with the circle in it with the square around it. It's pretty cool. I would, if I was to get another Pearl Jam tattoo, I'd probably go with something like that.

[Brad Lyons]

You think so? Yeah, I mean, sometimes I forget that you have the stick man, dude, I do too. On your.

[Brad Blaszek]

I think I told the store. I think I told this story, but I'll tell it again. I don't know, six months ago, maybe last year, I'm sitting watching TV and there was. Somebody had tattoos. And I started thinking, like, yeah, I got. I got that ghost tattoo. I've got my daughter's handprint when she was like 3 years old. I've got this awful flame thing. Why don't I have a Pearl Jam tattoo? I should get a Pearl. You know what would be cool? If I got a Pearl Jam tattoo. I had that thought and then for about 30 seconds, and then I like, kind of glanced down and there's the stick man waving up at me.

[Brad Lyons]

From your calf?

[Brad Blaszek]

My calf. I'm like, yeah, aisle calf.

[Brad Lyons]

Hello.

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, my God. Yeah. I'm getting old.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, you are. Thanks for the email, Chris.

[Brad Blaszek]

That's killer. That's kind of cool that, like, we inspired him.

[Brad Lyons]

Hell yeah, man. No code. Our love for no code.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, I have the, like, ultimate Pearl Jam logo, right?

[Brad Lyons]

Mm.

[Brad Blaszek]

But so if I was get to get something else, the next logical step would be something no code related because that's my favorite album. So. Yeah, I like it.

[Brad Lyons]

That's fair. I need another tattoo. Yes. I gotta get this one finished. I'm. I'm so. To that guy. I've had this tattoo for like five.

[Brad Blaszek]

Years, and what is it that needs to be finished? The one.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, I guess I just wanted to add to it. I started okay with just this basic image, and then now. Now I know kind of what I want to add to it.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Anyway, it's just, you know, a time and money thing.

[Brad Blaszek]

I still going way back. I still want the nacho cheese man. Nacho chip, man.

[Brad Lyons]

You should get the Kool Aid, man. Oh, yeah. Busting through a wall on your other calf.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, that would be. No, you should get it, like, really big on your back.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The full back tattoo.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. What if I got. Have you ever seen Steve? Oh, got like his self portrait. What if I got. Yeah, but, like, got like Napoleon Dynamite. Just his giant face.

[Brad Lyons]

No, it should be. It should be baby Brad in the diapers eating flour.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

A full size back tattoo.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes. Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

I think that's the winner. I don't know.

[Brad Blaszek]

Shout out to Jeremy Poulet.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, that's right.

[Brad Blaszek]

How do you say his name? You think? Is it like, French Poulet?

[Brad Lyons]

How about how we'll go Southern with it and say pool it?

[Brad Blaszek]

Did you see that thing I put on Instagram about Paris, Tennessee?

[Brad Lyons]

I don't remember.

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, man, there's a comedian talking about Paris, Tennessee. It's so funny.

[Brad Lyons]

I don't. I don't think I saw that. I'll have to check that when I get home.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

All right, We've got a YouTube comment up next from Bill. This is Brad, and Brad came across your podcast and have not stopped listening. PJ is by far my favorite band, but. But to be honest, I hadn't listened to them in depth for a few years for no particular reason. I did start putting down my favorite 12 to 14 songs. And honestly, it's all personal opinion. It's a pretty hard task as their catalog is immense and beyond comparison. I'll submit once I get it figured out. Do it, man. Thanks, Bill. Thanks for listening.

[Brad Blaszek]

See?

[Brad Lyons]

What comment was that on? Oh, my God. We were wee Little lads.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Is that the one? That was the one. Oh, that was the one where I almost like quit the show. Not quit the show, but like after.

[Brad Lyons]

We remember that at all.

[Brad Blaszek]

No, not in a bad, like, not like drama wise, but I felt like, I felt like I didn't do my homework. I wasn't ready. And I was like, I'm never gonna do that again. And I, I, I don't remember if I told you all this and was like, we just, we need to re record. We need to scrap that whole episode and redo it. Because I was like, this is awful.

[Brad Lyons]

I probably laughed. I was faithful.

[Brad Blaszek]

I can't.

[Brad Lyons]

Huh. I probably laughed in your face that we were recording that six epis.

[Brad Blaszek]

Talk about overthinking a little bit.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, no joke.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, I was like, this is. It was all me, dude. I was all like, this is. Oh my God, I can't do that again. That was, I wasn't ready. I was terrible. And then I like listened back to it and it sounded like the first five episodes.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Brad Blaszek]

I don't know. I don't know what that means, but yeah, it just, I don't know why. That just, Just like reminded me like I just had like a huge flashback of like such self doubt.

[Brad Lyons]

You. Me. Yeah, that doesn't sound like at all like either of us. All right, all right. Well, thank you, Bill.

[Brad Blaszek]

John Cell. This is an old, old listener. Old timey. Old.

[Brad Lyons]

Old.

[Brad Blaszek]

That's a name for the past. That's all I meant.

[Brad Lyons]

I'm sure John appreciates that.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

Old timey.

[Brad Blaszek]

I was working with some dude the other day and I said, how old are you? Because whatever he was talking about. Oh, he said he went to see. He saw Rush. Like his first concert was Rush. And I'm like, oh, cool. I saw them once. He's like, yeah, it was 1981. And I was like, what? Like, how old are you, dude? And he was, he said, I'm 53. And I'm like, oh, man, you don't, you don't look that old.

[Brad Lyons]

Wow, that's. And I was. That's a compliment. Other.

[Brad Blaszek]

I said it. I was like, oh, I didn't mean it. I did not mean it like that.

[Brad Lyons]

But old John Sill here, he's old Tommy.

[Brad Blaszek]

Old time judge. So saying hi, checking in. Happy New Year, yo. Bees. Gentlemen. How the hell are you? Just dropping y' all aligned to see how it's hanging. I hope you and yours are faring well these days. I get why Single Podcast theory is on hiatus. Nothing really to gab about with everyone, quote, in hiding.

[Brad Lyons]

Winky face.

[Brad Blaszek]

Wondering, though, if you guys ever pursued your secondary podcast. Thought of that the other day and was curious to know if you ever got to publishing that one. Me and my bud Jimmy have got one of our own and it's been a fun hobby, especially during COVID Nonsense. What can I say? You guys inspired me. You'll find us on most platforms these days. We're called Guys Our Age. Anyways, just wanted to drop. Drop you a line, make sure all is well and wish you guys a merry new year. My best to you both, John.

[Brad Lyons]

Thanks, John.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, John. I'll. I'll check that out. Guys. RH so what is happening with our secondary podcast?

[Brad Lyons]

We just need to record some more. Yeah, really.

[Brad Blaszek]

Get some. Get some more. We did. Yeah, we did. This is where I, like, overthink it. And I feel bad because I know we've said it, like, we're gonna do this. We're gonna try that. And then we. We. We have started it, but we haven't really, like, finished it and got anything out.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, well. Yeah, there's a. Yeah, I. Well, yeah, I don't. I definitely couldn't keep up doing. Because that's the thing. We're going to pick this way back up once the tour happens.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

You know what I mean? Like, there's so many shows to talk about and. And all that kind of stuff. And.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, it. Dude, it's. I'm going to sound like a. Sound like a whiny. But like this. This part us sitting here talking is awesome and easy and fun.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

But it's hard to get to this point. It's to. To like, to get us both, you know, at a point where we can sit down and do it.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, yeah. Like, schedule.

[Brad Blaszek]

And then. On your end. On your end. Yeah. I mean, all the, like, stuff you do to get it out.

[Brad Lyons]

Right.

[Brad Blaszek]

It's not simple.

[Brad Lyons]

No.

[Brad Blaszek]

I wish we could both quit our jobs and just do this.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, right. Yeah. I don't want to quit my job. I mean, I'd love doing this, but.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

I mean, I love my job, so.

[Brad Blaszek]

That's true.

[Brad Lyons]

We got one more.

[Brad Blaszek]

I'll quit. I'll quit my job. I'll move there.

[Brad Lyons]

We'll just podcast, bro. We'll just podcast all day long.

[Brad Blaszek]

If you. You could teach me and I'll be like your little studio.

[Brad Lyons]

I was thinking words like Gopher assistant. You went with.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. You can be my. Okay. I mean, it's kind of hold my pocket. These will Be dynamics we're comfortable with already. So. Yeah, you're already kind of a blazey. That's true. That's not true at all. Anyway, we got one more email.

[Brad Blaszek]

Thank you, John.

[Brad Lyons]

Before we. Yeah, thanks, John. Before we talk about the TJ Eddie Vedder song. Familiar name from way back in the day. Been around.

[Brad Blaszek]

Might say old timey.

[Brad Lyons]

Old timey. Another old timer.

[Brad Blaszek]

That's what I was trying to say.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, that's even worse.

[Brad Blaszek]

Is it?

[Brad Lyons]

Old timey is kind of like, am.

[Brad Blaszek]

I trying to style. I know, I know.

[Brad Lyons]

But the old timers, like, you're old motherfuckers.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, well, what am I trying to say?

[Brad Lyons]

Loyalty. Loyal listeners. Been around for a long time.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, that's all those things is what my brain was wanting to say, and old timey is what came out.

[Brad Lyons]

That's great. That's so much insight into your brain. But anyways, Jason Barker. What's up? Jason Barker. All he says is, I'm still around and still listening in. Be safe, be kind, and if you can't be good, be good at it, bro. Hugs J out. Thanks, Jason. Miss you, man. Good. Good to hear from you, Barker. How's it going up there in Canada? Canada land. He's right.

[Brad Blaszek]

They're having some trouble. Yeah, they're having some real troubles, aren't they? I don't follow, man. I don't follow the news that much, but I heard. I heard Trudeau has Covid. He went into hiding, and all the truckers are, like, stopping their trucks.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, man. See, I mean, I should know that. But for mental health reasons, I've been trying to stay as far away as, you know, to anything not essential as far as news goes, because I'm just fucking sick of it.

[Brad Blaszek]

I've been trying. You know what I've been doing lately? Rabbit hole. I watch these YouTube videos of these people that are, like, First Amendment auditors, okay? And they go around, like, recording the police in public.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, those annoying people that.

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, dude, they're the. They're the biggest assholes in the world. But they are, like, legally, they're correct. Like, cops ask them immediately for their id, and they're like, I don't have to give you my id, Right? And the cops. They're cops and they're assholes, too. Yeah, you do. It's the law. You're. I'm gonna arrest you for refusing to identify yourself. Well, that. Tell me where. That's the law. I can't get enough of it. I cannot get enough of those people.

[Brad Lyons]

Those videos drive me Crazy. I can't watch them, dude. It's just. That's another one of those things that's just like, oh, my God, we're all so fucked.

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, yeah. Well, I'm like, you know me. I'll get real passionate and real emotional, and, like, if I get in an argument, I cannot argue articul. Articulately.

[Brad Lyons]

Is that a word?

[Brad Blaszek]

Is that okay? And I just can't. I can't get, like. I can't like, just, like, fall over my words and get tongue tied. These dudes, they know their rights and they know exactly how to answer.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

I just love watching these people argue.

[Brad Lyons]

They're trolling. Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

It's so great, man.

[Brad Lyons]

Can't. Can't listen to Neil Young anymore. Or Joni Mitchell.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. You know what's so funny about that? Like, I don't ever listen to Spotify.

[Brad Lyons]

So stupid.

[Brad Blaszek]

Because I have Apple Music, right. And I got Sirius XM a couple months ago because it was like, they had some offer, like, five bucks a month for a year. I'm like, all right, cool. So all this Neil Young stuff came out, and I, like, turned on Sirius, and this, like, giant ad popped up, and it was like, the Neil Young channel is back.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

These guys are totally trying to capitalize on the whole Spotify Neil Young thing.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, it's just. Yeah. I mean, the whole thing is just so stupid, you know? It's like. It's like. And I. I'm a huge. Everyone knows I'm a huge fan of Neil Young. I'm a. I might almost say that I'm a bigger Joni Mitchell fan than a Neil Young fan, but what a. Like, this isn't the 60s, right. It feels like this really outdated, like, bringing a 60s, like, protest concept to the digital age, and it's just kind of like, huh?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

What?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Okay, so you're gonna pull your music off. Who's that gonna hurt?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

The people that love your music.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Not Joe Rogan.

[Brad Blaszek]

Right. What the. Right.

[Brad Lyons]

It just doesn't. I'm sorry. It doesn't make any sense. And then I feel like I get in these positions where it feels really weird to. To, like. I mean, I like his podcast, but it feels weird to defend him, you know what I'm saying? Because he's such, like, a polarizing figure.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

And he's one of those people where one of the reasons I didn't used to listen to his podcast was more because of his stereotypical fans.

[Brad Blaszek]

You know what I mean?

[Brad Lyons]

That's kind of like Bro heads, you know, but then you realize that, like, he has some pretty great guests on.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, there's some great conversations going on on there. And I mean, I love it when he has scientists on psychologists, all that, you know? Yeah. Other comics, obviously. I love stand up comedy. Always have. So that's always fun. But I don't know, it's just like I feel like we're always having the wrong conversation. And I don't mean that in a way of like, that I've got figured out, but it's like, first of all, all the people. Because I have listened to his podcast. It's like the people. It's like the Dave Chappelle thing too. It was like when he got in trouble again with, you know, the trans community. It's like, no, these are people that don't understand comedy. Right. Because he's not making fun of them.

[Brad Blaszek]

No, no.

[Brad Lyons]

He's actually telling, like really kind of tender stories and there's jokes in there, but none of it's like these people. Yeah, right. But that's what the headlines are, right?

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, they twist everything these people say.

[Brad Lyons]

Right. And it's like, the thing is, is I've never heard. Now I have not listened to all of his podcasts for sure, but like, I think he gets really misrepresented too. I just hate it when people get. It's all headlines and that creates everything.

[Brad Blaszek]

Mm.

[Brad Lyons]

Right. Like, yeah. It doesn't mean there's not truth in it, but it's causes these kind of, like, fights that.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Don't make any sense.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

People are so unwilling to listen to people that don't think the same way they do. Mm. And it's just automatically, it's. If you're. If you disagree with this, these couple things, then you're an evil.

[Brad Blaszek]

Right.

[Brad Lyons]

But I'm not gonna talk to you about it. You know what I mean? Like, like that's what should happen. Neil Young should go on the Joe Rogan podcast.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

And they can fucking talk about it.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

You know what I'm saying? And then if he still wants to, if, if it goes sideways, he can still pull his music. But it just. Am I sounding crazy because it makes me feel crazy?

[Brad Blaszek]

No, no, no. Because it's like, I think the majority of people don't feel like, don't agree with the very small amount of people that have the loudest voices.

[Brad Lyons]

I know. Right. Well, that's the other big problem.

[Brad Blaszek]

But. But yeah, that's the. The problem is this very small amount of people are heard because the rest of us aren't saying all these crazy things, but we hear these crazy things, and because of something in our brains, we think, well, oh, everyone must think like that.

[Brad Lyons]

Right?

[Brad Blaszek]

This crazy thing.

[Brad Lyons]

Right.

[Brad Blaszek]

But I don't think like that, you know?

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

So I don't know.

[Brad Lyons]

I don't.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, it's.

[Brad Lyons]

But it's. It's one of those things, too, where it's like a lot of the podcasts I listen to, I don't agree with. Like, I try and listen to people that I don't agree with. Maybe that's uncommon or something. But, like, I don't listen. I don't. What's an example? Oh, I'll listen to Ben Shapiro sometimes. You know how much I line up with him? Not a whole lot.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

You know what I mean?

[Brad Blaszek]

But it's.

[Brad Lyons]

But he's at least sincere, it seems. Right. Like, these are things he's thought a lot about. Right. But it's like, you're not supposed to do that. It feels like you're supposed to be on your team.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. I was gonna say you're supposed to be on this side. And anything anyone says against your side.

[Brad Lyons]

Super creepy and weird dude demon.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

It almost feels like a weird, like, religious kind of mentality. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Well, I think those certain groups, they, like, people will be like, well, that's. My whole identity is aligning with those thoughts.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

So I can't go against that because that's my whole identity.

[Brad Lyons]

Right. Well, it's like. Yeah, never mind. We are so dude in the weeds right now.

[Brad Blaszek]

Let's talk about fun stuff.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, my God.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, we got a couple things. Thomas Lee leehee Leahy.

[Brad Lyons]

Yep.

[Brad Blaszek]

He. Did you see this?

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

Pretty cool.

[Brad Lyons]

Hell, yeah, man.

[Brad Blaszek]

I think this is. I meant to look it up. Now I feel bad.

[Brad Lyons]

Crap. What?

[Brad Blaszek]

This is like his third. Third time.

[Brad Lyons]

I believe it is the third. You're right.

[Brad Blaszek]

Okay.

[Brad Lyons]

Could be wrong, could be fourth, but I think it's third. Yeah. It made a donation and single podcast Theory's name to Music Cares, which is an organization. If you don't know. We've talked about it before, but if you don't know, it helps working musicians that don't have basically good mental health care. If you need things like rehab for alcohol or drug addiction, depression, all that good stuff that we love so much as musicians that we all kind of get. I don't know. There's just a high rate of all that kind of stuff within the musical community of musicians. So they will donate money towards people that need help financially to get help with mental health issues, alcohol, drugs, all that stuff. So thanks, Tom. We really appreciate it. It means a lot. For real?

[Brad Blaszek]

Totally. Totally. Yeah, he just. He sent a note, said, tough year, keep going, you're still doing great. So it just. I know we're not doing this every week, but getting messages like this really make me feel. Feel really good. Make you feely feely? Yes. All the feelings. Oh, my God. Dude, I saw something on Reddit. It was just a, like a 10 second clip of these girls dancing. Like, like a rave kind of thing. But the one girl is like, she's dancing but she's like crying and then she's smiling and then she's like crying and trying to hold it back, you know?

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, and I know what you're talking about. I saw someone do like a rearview mirror thing.

[Brad Blaszek]

That was me. I was. That. I saw the. Yeah, I saw the video and I started and there's no sound. And I see this girl and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I'm getting all the feels. Like she is into it. I don't know what she's going through, but she is feeling all the feels at once and dancing.

[Brad Lyons]

Right?

[Brad Blaszek]

So then I'm like, you know what that makes me feel like in the. After the bridge of Rear View Mirror, when it's live.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

And. And Eddie's screaming saw things once. You were in my rear view mirror. So I put that clip of music onto this clip of this girl dancing and. Dude, I'm at work. I'm in the truck. Did you go viral? No, no, I'm kidding. I'm just saying I'm watching this and trying not to just break down crying. Oh, really? In the truck with the dude that I work with? Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, my God. Dude.

[Brad Blaszek]

Just watching this girl, like, losing her mind with the. With live rearview mirror underneath it, sitting.

[Brad Lyons]

There fucking feeling all the feelings. I was.

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, man. Well, this is the other thing. Like this dude I work with, he. This. Today was his last day because he's one of the ones that's like, he's gone. He doesn't have a job anymore unless he stays in the store. But he got on with a company that his wife works for.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, okay.

[Brad Blaszek]

We've become like, huh.

[Brad Lyons]

So he's not unemployed, right? Okay.

[Brad Blaszek]

But it was his last day at Lowe's.

[Brad Lyons]

Got.

[Brad Blaszek]

Me and him have become like, really good friends the last, like, year or two.

[Brad Lyons]

Right.

[Brad Blaszek]

Like, since I transferred to this store, taking.

[Brad Lyons]

And man, you're Right. Like taking shits and crisprs together. Yeah, that was kind of your thing, right? You guys did that a lot together.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

Crispr drawer shits.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, no more, you know, no more of any of that.

[Brad Lyons]

Does he also like to eat raw flour?

[Brad Blaszek]

No, we didn't. We never got to that point.

[Brad Lyons]

I gotcha. You got anything in Patreon world, Brad B.

[Brad Blaszek]

We did get a new patron.

[Brad Lyons]

Thank you so much, dude.

[Brad Blaszek]

Hans Burkhart.

[Brad Lyons]

Hans shouts out to Hans.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes. Thank you, dude.

[Brad Lyons]

Really appreciate it, man.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, totally.

[Brad Lyons]

And we appreciate everyone that supports us on Patreon. If you would like to check that out, you can go to patreon.com singlepodcast theory P-A-T-R-E-O-N.com and all that information is there. Now. Should we talk about the song now?

[Brad Blaszek]

Let's talk about Brother the Cloud.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, so let's. I kind of want to listen to. To it together and then talk. Okay. You know what I'm saying that.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

So this is off the upcoming release from Eddie called Earthling. Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

Do you want to talk? Can we talk about Earthling real quick?

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, for sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes. So, yeah, they announced. I don't know, a few weeks ago, Eddie announced this new album coming out called Earthling. It's a solo project, but, man, it's. He's. It's like the All Star Band.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. No.

[Brad Blaszek]

Chad Smith, drummer from Chili Peppers, and we went through it all. The Chaneys. Lon Chaney.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, yeah. Chris Cheney on bass.

[Brad Blaszek]

From Jane's. Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Josh Kling offer on guitar.

[Brad Blaszek]

And then is it Andrew. Andrew Watt?

[Brad Lyons]

I think, yeah. On guitar.

[Brad Blaszek]

Who is. I think. Yeah, he. And I think he's the producer.

[Brad Lyons]

I think so.

[Brad Blaszek]

Of the album.

[Brad Lyons]

Right. That's what I.

[Brad Blaszek]

Those dudes are.

[Brad Lyons]

Anyway.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, those dudes are going on. On a little tour.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh.

[Brad Blaszek]

And of course, I think actually it's.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

I think. But it's Glenn on this record. I think so.

[Brad Lyons]

Okay.

[Brad Blaszek]

I think so.

[Brad Lyons]

That'd be a great show. Dude.

[Brad Blaszek]

Dude, I want to go so bad, but he's not coming anywhere near here.

[Brad Lyons]

Of course not.

[Brad Blaszek]

And I think this. I. You know what?

[Brad Lyons]

I'm.

[Brad Blaszek]

The show might start the const. Oh, God.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, wow.

[Brad Blaszek]

The tour might start, like tonight or in the next few days. Maybe it's next week. So.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

But this Andrew Watt. Did you see this? Like, I'm sorry I cut you off.

[Brad Lyons]

Sorry.

[Brad Blaszek]

Andrew Watt. I guess there was an interview somewhere and they said, like, they mentioned that after the tour ends, they're going to Be recording with Andrew Watt.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, cool.

[Brad Blaszek]

And all the headlines were like, pearl Jam going to record with a new. A new album with Andrew Watt. And then it said, like, justin Bieber producer. And I'm like, that's gotta be like clickbait to get people, like, nuts, right? Like, oh, Pearl Jam and Justin Bieber.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, well.

[Brad Blaszek]

And I'm like, andrew Watt is recorded with, like, Ozzy.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

And somebody else. I'm like, he's a record producer.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

Like, what the.

[Brad Lyons]

What all the good ones tend. A lot of the good ones tend to work with, you know, different.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Or whatever.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

So.

[Brad Blaszek]

But I just. I thought that was, like, stupid slash funny clickbait dude.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, all right, so just a basic. Before we listen to the song and then chat about it. Is this a thumbs up. Thumbs down. Thumbs in the middle for you.

[Brad Blaszek]

Thumbs up. Thumbs way up?

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, way up for me, too.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

All right, I'm going to play the song now then. All right. I mean, right off the bat, I love that guitar.

[Brad Blaszek]

That's a cool guitar.

[Eddie Vedder (song vocals)]

And now my brother is gone oh, I search the sky For a glimpse of his blue eyes and there I find his image in the clouds.

[Brad Blaszek]

If.

[Eddie Vedder (song vocals)]

I could wish wishing away I would bleed out my knees and pray if.

[Brad Lyons]

I could get one of those Big Eddie choruses.

[Brad Blaszek]

Totally.

[Brad Lyons]

Like in a stadium, kind of. Not. Doesn't sound like it, but just like that Springsteen energy.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

You know.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. The. The quiet.

[Brad Lyons]

Loud.

[Brad Blaszek]

Quiet. Yeah, it's. It. It works really well in this song.

[Eddie Vedder (song vocals)]

It was not easy for my friend Even do yourself cannot be kept Enlarged a hole in my heart Rising river in the darky Road to shore Till our shores were far apart.

[Brad Blaszek]

And, I mean, I've been pretty. I don't know, honest about some of the Eddie solo stuff. I don't really care.

[Brad Lyons]

For sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

Like the ukulele stuff and.

[Brad Lyons]

Right.

[Brad Blaszek]

Even the. What's the movie soundtrack. Into the Wild. I don't love that stuff, but this stuff is awesome. This is like a rock band. It's not Pearl Jam, but it's definitely. Is definitely Eddie.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, for sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

And it's like a. It's, you know, it's rock. It's rock. These are rock songs.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. It's a band.

[Brad Blaszek]

It's a rock band for sure. Yeah. And that part of it is what I love so much. Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

And I like the production of it, too. Sounds really cool.

[Brad Blaszek]

Sounds like Justin Bieber.

[Brad Lyons]

Sounds like Bieber. Are you a Belieber, bruh? I'm so a believer Baby, baby, baby.

[Eddie Vedder (song vocals)]

Baby if I could Wish, wish it away I would bleed out my fe. And pray if I could get all that I have to bring back just to death these are the dreams the sa. They never go away these are my dreams the silence.

[Brad Blaszek]

Now Is this. Is that a key change?

[Brad Lyons]

It's just a. I think it's a key change. It's just. New section of the song, kind of.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

A bridge type section.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. I love this.

[Brad Lyons]

The attitude.

[Brad Blaszek]

Do whatever you call it.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. I can't wait to talk about these lyrics.

[Brad Blaszek]

I'm just gonna say, dude, talk about the. Feels, right?

[Brad Lyons]

Very. The. The way he ended that vocal at the end of the song reminded me of Last Exit because he kind of.

[Brad Blaszek]

Goes into a talk, you know? Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Singing anymore.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, dude.

[Brad Lyons]

Okay, so first of all, I just want to be clear. I love Justin Bieber, and I don't give a.

[Brad Blaszek]

Okay, okay.

[Brad Lyons]

All right. I mean. I mean, I was joking in the song, but I guess technically I am a believer. Wow.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, I am.

[Brad Lyons]

Got some good songs, man. It's got some good songs, but if you're not into pop music, then I get it. That's fine.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, I mean, I'm of the. Of the. Whatever. The thing of. If a song is good, it's good.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure. You just have. So there's that one yet, huh?

[Brad Blaszek]

Not with him.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

No, I. I can't get into him. And part of it is, like, in real life, he's just a little douchebag.

[Brad Lyons]

Okay, we're gonna get back on topic, but okay.

[Brad Blaszek]

I will say I should separate from his music.

[Brad Lyons]

Right.

[Brad Blaszek]

But like, man, when he. You see him out in public and some of the things that he's done, maybe, okay, he's a kid, but still, he's a man. He's a real asshole. So that's just my take, bro.

[Brad Lyons]

I think you would be too, if you grew up, started being famous when you were fucking 12 years old or whatever it was.

[Brad Blaszek]

Okay, I'll give you that. But that doesn't mean. That. That doesn't justify it.

[Brad Lyons]

No, I'm not saying that. Get it.

[Brad Blaszek]

Doesn't justify it.

[Brad Lyons]

That's Justin Timberlake, by the way. Not. Not. Not Bieber. Well, you were talking about justified reference.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, that.

[Brad Lyons]

You're saying.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, Justin.

[Brad Lyons]

That's Justin Timberlake.

[Brad Blaszek]

I mean, his name's Justin.

[Brad Lyons]

I don't understand you sometimes, Brad.

[Brad Blaszek]

What's, like, his big. What's a good song by him that I might know?

[Brad Lyons]

We're not gonna do this right now. I'll send you some links, some Apple Music links. All right, so let's talk about this song.

[Brad Blaszek]

He's not on Spotify, is he? Because that don't send me no Spotify links.

[Brad Lyons]

Don't you spend me no send me no Spotify. All right, let's do this for real. All right, so talk, talk to me because I intentionally, with this song, once I read through it with a lyric, did not look up any interview stuff. And I heard that you did, so I did.

[Brad Blaszek]

He was. Do you want me to talk about that real quick? Because it's not. Yes, talk about it.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, go for it.

[Brad Blaszek]

New York Times magazine had an interview with, with Eddie and he. They bring up this song and the interviewer is very like. What's the word?

[Brad Lyons]

Bold? Persistent?

[Brad Blaszek]

No, the opposite.

[Brad Lyons]

Snarky?

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, no, no, not like the total opposite.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, like gushing about it. What?

[Brad Blaszek]

No, like he wants to just be like real like. Do you want to talk about this or should we not talk about this? Got sensitive. Yes. And. And Eddie is like, yeah, I don't want to really talk about it, but it's kind of obvious what it's about.

[Brad Lyons]

It's got to be Chris.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, totally.

[Brad Lyons]

Okay, cool.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, but he doesn't say that.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure, but.

[Brad Blaszek]

But it's got to be. Yeah, totally. It is. I mean, the way he's answering these questions, it's. It's obvious that what he's talking about, but I don't think he wants to get too deep into it because he can't. He'll probably break down the interviewer. The interviewer mentions that he had a friend who, who died from suicide. And Eddie's like, oh, can I ask you about it? And the interviewer's kind of taken aback, like, yeah, yeah, you can. I don't know that I can talk about it either. And Eddie starts like interviewing this dude. It's. It's kind of like super interesting.

[Brad Lyons]

Is he being a smartest?

[Brad Blaszek]

No, no, he. No, he's. He wants help. He wants help from somebody else that's experienced, that has gone through this. Yes, totally. And he's like asking him, like, does. Do these feelings, like, go away and how long does it take for you to not get over it, but like to have like. I should have like wrote notes, but.

[Brad Lyons]

Just like freedom from it.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, yeah. And it's real interesting because then the interviewer is like, like answering him, you know, honestly. It's. It's an interesting interview.

[Brad Lyons]

Okay, I'll check that one out. But.

[Brad Blaszek]

But yeah, they don't go too much. It's a long ass interview, but it's real in depth and super interesting.

[Brad Lyons]

That's cool. Well, yeah, dude. I mean, these lyrics, dude, I mean, it goes. What I like about it too is that it kind of goes from being kind of like love sick for your friend and sad to. By the end, he's like, it's the anger stage.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

You know, which is. Yeah. Totally understandable.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. All those emotions, like, come out in this song and he's telling him, like, I understand, but like, also then at the same time, like, why didn't you tell me? Kind of thing.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

You know.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, there's that one. That one verse that understand it was not easy for my friend. Promises even to yourself can't be kept. It's like, God damn, dude. That's. It's almost like this song has like a couple bridges. I feel like.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

It's not like a traditional arrangement.

[Brad Blaszek]

That's why.

[Brad Lyons]

I guess that's what I'm saying.

[Brad Blaszek]

That's why I thought maybe that second bridge was a key change. I'm not a musician, so I don't totally understand key change. But that section of the song kind of takes such a drastic turn. I thought maybe that's what it meant.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. I mean, I haven't learned the song. I don't think it's a key change. I think it's just a kind of a change in chord progression or whatever. Yeah. But. Because that first part that I kind of feel like is separate from everything, which is the. There's no. There's no previous reference for this level of pain.

[Brad Blaszek]

I was gonna say.

[Brad Lyons]

God damn, that verse. Yeah, Yeah, I feel that. That's like chills.

[Brad Blaszek]

I mean, you've probably had friends that passed away early.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

Maybe not suicide. I haven't had anyone die from suicide. But I've. I've. Like. One of my best friends was killed by a drunk driver. And so, like, this kind of is. I kind of relate to that, to this song because of that.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

You know, it's not the exact same, but a lot of the same emotions. The anger isn't there, obviously.

[Brad Lyons]

Right.

[Brad Blaszek]

For him, but the rest of it, you know, someone who dies suddenly at a relatively young age, like, you can really relate to this song.

[Brad Lyons]

Right? Yeah. I mean. And then, you know, the other. The part of the song you're talking about, the lyrics there with the, you know, he's asking someone if you're going to go early too. Then when you get there, put your arms around my friend. Which all sounds so sweet, you know, I mean, like, hug him for me kind of thing. And then it's ended with Safe for me. Fuck you. You know, it's like.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, I love.

[Brad Lyons]

I mean, it's all terrible. It's all terrible that the song even has to exist. Right.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

But from, like, a songwriting standpoint and from, like, a human standpoint, it's like to see him be vulnerable enough to kind of let that anger out, I guess, kind of publicly in a song. Yeah. I mean. Yeah, I think says a lot. Not just about the amount of suffering he probably feels for this loss, but also that he's able to be angry at him too. You know? I mean.

[Brad Blaszek]

Right.

[Brad Lyons]

If it is what we think it's about, but. Which is a really common. And, you know, it sounds weird to say again, but like a healthy part of dealing with losing someone to suicide. You know what I mean?

[Brad Blaszek]

Right. Well, let me. I'll read you this. This was the question to Eddie. He says, of course, you go down the rabbit hole of, why didn't he call that day? What if I'd call that day? But that'll drive you crazy. It's not fair to beat yourself up about that. Is that what you've been doing? And Eddie says maybe that's why the song was there waiting to get out. The music goes where it goes.

[Brad Lyons]

He's like a 90s Buddha still.

[Brad Blaszek]

Right? Totally.

[Brad Lyons]

You know what I mean?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

He's like a. He became the wise, not old man, but you know what I'm saying?

[Brad Blaszek]

The wise old timey.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, the old timer. The wise old timer. He's still out there crushing it.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Okay. Well, we just talked a lot about the lyrics, but musically, I love it, too.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Like I said, it's. It's. It's. I could see this as a Pearl Jam song.

[Brad Lyons]

Totally.

[Brad Blaszek]

But it's not like. It's just not. It's. It has different players on it, and it sounds different than a Pearl Jam song with it, with Eddie singing. And it's cool. That's what I mean. Like, that. That part. Like, really, I was not very excited. Like, oh, there's a new. So Eddie solo. Like, all right. I mean, I'll check it out, of course.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

But when I heard this, I'm like, oh, this? It's like Eddie doing Bruce Springsteen. Kind of like what you said, you know, it's Eddie doing a separate but also Pearl Jammy type stuff. And I'm like, I'm here for this.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, and the thing, too, is, like, it. I think Chad Smith makes it feel not like Pearl Jam, you know, it's like. Because if Matt was on that track, it would just sound like Pearl Jam.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

Right. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. As far as guitar goes, it's nothing. That's like out of the realm of possibility to be on a Pearl Jam song.

[Brad Blaszek]

Right.

[Brad Lyons]

It's not so different or whatever, but having.

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, the bass kind of. Yeah, the bass kind of stuck out to me too. It's kind of got like a buzzy drone to it.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. Well, and if that's Chris Chaney on the record, then that's why that is a badass.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Trying to remember what else stuck out to me about the music. Well, I'll say this. It doesn't feel like as long as it is, it doesn't feel like a five minute long song.

[Brad Blaszek]

Is it five minutes?

[Brad Lyons]

I think so. Let me look this up real quick. I remember looking at it going, oh my God. I don't feel like I've been sitting here that long. Let's see here. Well, it's four and a half. Four and a half. That's still kind of a long song.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

You know, most things these days are clocking in at around 3, 3:30.

[Brad Blaszek]

Right.

[Brad Lyons]

So. Anything?

[Brad Blaszek]

Well, no, it's got that like different slower intro with that cool guitar tone. Like you were saying. It's got the weird kind of left. Not left turn, but the, the. The second bridge is kind of out there. So.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, it's very. There's very much like a twist and turn journey to the right. The sounds and the arrangement of the song, you know, the first time you hear.

[Brad Blaszek]

Which is cool. That's like.

[Brad Lyons]

I like even if, if chord progressions are repeated, he's changing melodies up a ton, you know.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

I don't feel like, even for like verses and stuff. There's one that's exactly like the other, you know. Right. But keeps it interesting without feeling kind of like it's just meandering.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. You know, and I, I like that it's, you know, it's a rock song.

[Brad Lyons]

Sure.

[Brad Blaszek]

It's not this like sad, dirgy, I'm so sad song. It rocks, you know, like ass.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. It's not drenched in some kind of weird like self pity or something.

[Brad Blaszek]

Right.

[Brad Lyons]

Man, I'm excited to hear the rest of the record. I mean.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, me too.

[Brad Lyons]

That's. That's the other thing. This is. There's gonna be some crazy collaborations on this too, isn't there?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, I, I did not realize that until today. I mean the announcement came out like a month ago, but yeah, it was Elton John.

[Brad Lyons]

Yep. I Knew that was the only one I knew about.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Because they talked about that.

[Brad Lyons]

I've seen some, like, clips online or something of him.

[Brad Blaszek]

I think Elton John popped into the Metallica interview on Howard Stern and mentioned like three or four songs that are. That he was recording with three or four, like big stars and Eddie was one of them.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah.

[Brad Blaszek]

But yeah, Elton John, Stevie Wonder.

[Brad Lyons]

Yep. Who's the other big one? Who was the other big one? God damn it. Hold on.

[Brad Blaszek]

Justin Bieber.

[Brad Lyons]

Justin Bieber.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah. Oh, and the other thing. I won't even talk about the clickbait headline, which was. So I think I sent you this. The clickbait headline. But I won't say it. But apparently Eddie has gotten some audio of his father and that's gonna be included on one of the songs.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, no shit.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, that's pretty. Which, if you remember, he. He talked about it a couple years ago about meeting some guy at the baseball fantasy camp and this dude was like, oh, I knew your dad and I've got some tapes and he's crazy, Eddie's dad, like kind of talking to him from the grave kind of. You know what I mean? Like, whoa. He said he kind of felt like he was talking sort of about his son, his young son and recorded these songs and apparently that's on the album.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, that's heavy.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Well, I'm definitely interested to hear the rest of this record. Yeah, we already covered Long way, right?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, man. Well, I think this is not. No, you know, I. I love Eddie better.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

I've never loved. I don't know. Pearl Jam is my. And I like a lot. I mean, I definitely like more than you do as far as the Eddie solo stuff.

[Brad Blaszek]

But yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

Sometimes I get a feeling of like when some stuff's released and it depends on what's going on with me or what's going on in my life too. But like, it's like, I'll get around to it, but this is like. I'm really excited to. To hear what's on the rest of this record because. Totally.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

What? The three singles that they've released are all pretty different from each other.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

You know?

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah.

[Brad Lyons]

So should be fun. Which, you know, you gotta expect that with all those players. Yeah, that's a pretty kick ass band.

[Brad Blaszek]

Ringo Starr, you might have heard of that.

[Brad Lyons]

That's who I was. Yeah. Yes, he is in a band once.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yes.

[Brad Lyons]

He was.

[Brad Blaszek]

Ringo Star and the All Star Jam Band. What is his. What does he call his little get together? I don't remember it's something like that.

[Brad Lyons]

You need to get in there and help her with the dishes, dude.

[Brad Blaszek]

Dude, I'm sorry, man.

[Brad Lyons]

I love it. It's just like, clank, clank, clank.

[Brad Blaszek]

I know.

[Brad Lyons]

It'S amazing. That's. You know, it's the quality control that people and type of experience in general that people have come to expect from single podcast theory over the last few years.

[Brad Blaszek]

What are you cooking up in there? Hamburgers.

[Brad Lyons]

Oh, is that what it is? It's the sizzle of the pan.

[Brad Blaszek]

It's the sizzle of.

[Brad Lyons]

I thought it was the running of water.

[Brad Blaszek]

Yeah, that's funny.

[Brad Lyons]

I was just picturing Susan in there, like, in the same room as you, just washing dishes.

[Brad Blaszek]

She's. It's just the next room over. She's making cookies too, so. Oh, I can't.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, some cookies. Yeah, you need to keep your mouth shut, dude. Yeah, well, maybe we'll talk about the halves or something next. Okay.

[Brad Blaszek]

Maybe there'll be a new single.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, that's true.

[Brad Blaszek]

Did you hear her?

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah, I heard her.

[Brad Blaszek]

She said, sorry.

[Brad Lyons]

Sorry, man. You gotta get you those cookies, dude.

[Brad Blaszek]

Dude, when she gets hungry, she don't give a. We're recording. She's like, it.

[Brad Lyons]

Fuck it. I'm hungry. Speaking of bug it. Let's get out of here, dude.

[Brad Blaszek]

All right.

[Brad Lyons]

All right, bud. We'll. We'll be back soon, guys. And until next time, I'm Brad Lyons.

[Brad Blaszek]

And I'm Brad Blazik. Saying if I could give all that I have to bring him back today.

[Brad Lyons]

Rip Chris. You know what I'm saying? I've been listening a lot of Chris Cornell lately, actually.

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, really?

[Brad Lyons]

I've been digging back into, like, some super unknown, and I need to get.

[Brad Blaszek]

Back into them because I've been on, like, a huge Black Sabbath kick.

[Brad Lyons]

Yeah. And I know. On your Instagram.

[Brad Blaszek]

Oh, man. Some of their. Some of Sound guard.

[Brad Lyons]

I think I just said I've seen. I think I just said I seen that.

[Brad Blaszek]

I seen that. I seen that.

[Brad Lyons]

I seen that on your Instagram. We got to get the out of here. Bye. Bye. All right.