Addiction treatment has not always been designed with women in mind—and that can profoundly shape how women experience recovery. In this episode of Sisters in Sobriety, Sonia is joined by Dr. Stephanie S. Covington, internationally recognized clinician, author, and pioneer in addiction and trauma treatment, whose groundbreaking work includes A Woman’s Way Through the Twelve Steps, Helping Women Recover, Beyond Trauma, and Awaken Your Sexuality.

Why do traditional addiction treatment and Twelve Step programs sometimes fail to reflect women’s actual experiences? How are trauma, relationships, sexuality, shame, and addiction connected? Dr. Covington examines why recovery can look different for women, what conventional relapse prevention may overlook, and why community and connection are so essential. She also discusses the gaps in addiction treatment within jails and prisons, the importance of continuity of care after incarceration, and why she prefers the term “criminal legal system” over “criminal justice system.”

The conversation breaks down the relationship between childhood trauma, genetics, emotional development, substance use, and relapse. Dr. Covington explains when trauma and addiction may need to be treated simultaneously, the difference between trauma-informed, trauma-responsive, and trauma-specific care, and the powerful shift from asking “What’s wrong with you?” to “What happened to you?” She also offers a gender-responsive perspective on the Twelve Steps, reframing concepts like the Fourth Step in ways that can reduce shame and help women see themselves more clearly in recovery.

Sonia also gets personal about working the Twelve Steps nearly nine years into sobriety, feeling disconnected from the male-centered language of traditional AA literature, dating and having sex sober for the first time, and navigating conversations around “Cali sober” and mindful substance use. Dr. Covington shares her own early experiment with moderation, why she has no desire to test whether she could drink again, and a surprisingly simple “green beans” test that can reveal just how much power alcohol or another substance has in someone’s life.

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Highlights

00:01:00 – Meet Dr. Stephanie Covington and the personal recovery story behind her pioneering work

00:02:20 – What early addiction treatment and Twelve Step programs got wrong about women

00:03:35 – Why women-only recovery spaces can create greater safety and vulnerability

00:04:00 – Addiction, incarceration, and the lack of real treatment inside jails and prisons

00:06:00 – Medication-assisted treatment, Twelve Step access, and what is missing behind bars

00:07:00 – Why recovery community can be critical for successful reentry after incarceration

00:08:35 – Sonia shares that she is working the Twelve Steps nearly nine years into sobriety

00:09:20 – Why A Woman’s Way Through the Twelve Steps reframes recovery through women’s voices

00:10:00 – Reimagining the Fourth Step as a compassionate “spring cleaning” of the self

00:14:00 – Should AA literature change, and why Dr. Covington focuses on the Twelve Steps over the Big Book

00:16:00 – The Twelve Steps as tools for living, not simply tools for stopping drinking

00:17:00 – Why meetings, connection, and community strengthen long-term recovery

00:18:30 – How trauma and addiction become intertwined and why genetics is only part of the picture

00:21:00 – When trauma and addiction should be treated together rather than sequentially

00:23:30 – The three major relapse risks for women: trauma, relationships, and sexual issues

00:25:30 – Why childhood trauma can have a particularly profound developmental impact

00:28:00 – Big-T versus little-t trauma—and why comparing trauma can be misleading

00:30:00 – Relationships, sexuality, shame, and the overlooked realities of women’s recovery

00:33:00 – Sonia opens up about dating, intimacy, and having sex sober for the first time

00:37:00 – Trauma-informed, trauma-responsive, and trauma-specific care explained

00:39:00 – The origin and power of shifting from “What’s wrong with you?” to “What happened to you?”

00:44:00 – Cali sober, switching substances, moderation, and whether addiction can be “transcended”

00:49:30 – Dr. Covington shares her own failed experiment with having “just one” drink

00:50:30 – The 30-day experiment and the unforgettable “green beans” test for evaluating alcohol’s role

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https://www.instagram.com/stephaniecovingtonofficial/

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