On this episode: Lucy Lopez, Elizabeth Newcamp, and Zak Rosen are joined by Austin Kleon. He’s the author of books like Steal Like an Artist and Show Your Work! Kleon has a new book out in June called Don’t Call It Art: 10 Ways to Create Like a Kid Again. He joins the ‘Rents to talk about rediscovering your wildness, how screens can actually help kids create, and how to cultivate a creative space for yourself and your littles.

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