Podcast Summary: Slow Burn: One Year: Roots – The Saga of Alex Haley

Host: Josh Levin (Slate Podcasts)
Episode Date: August 12, 2021
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This episode explores the origins, success, and controversy surrounding Alex Haley’s Roots, a cultural phenomenon that transformed America’s understanding of slavery, genealogy, and Black identity. Through first-hand accounts, archival audio, and historical analysis, the episode unpacks the personal journey of Haley, the monumental impact of Roots the miniseries, and the debates about its historical accuracy.

I. The Night Roots Changed America (00:54–05:25)

• Personal memories from viewers (Zenobia Harper, Stephanie Dunn) of watching Roots as children, and the anticipation leading up to its nationwide broadcast.

• Roots depicted the brutal realities of American slavery and the journey of Kunta Kinte, laying bare a truth largely absent from American media.

• Impact was immediate and communal: families and communities gathered to watch, discuss, and process the series together.

• Quote:

  “After night one, it was like no one would dare be missing night two.” – Zenobia Harper [02:45]

• The series stood out for showing both the horrors and the pride, resilience, and survival of Black families through generations.

• Roots became the most-watched TV event ever at the time, seen by an estimated 130 million people [04:38].

• It was more than an entertainment event — Roots directly challenged textbook stereotypes and Hollywood myths about Black history and slavery.

II. The Roots of Roots: Alex Haley’s Quest (05:25–14:06)

• Alex Haley’s Background: Grew up in Henning, Tennessee, hearing family stories from his grandmother's porch.

• Family oral history about an African ancestor named “Kinte” who was captured while making a drum by the river “Camby Bolongo.”

• Haley’s journey from writing for pulp magazines and the Coast Guard to co-authoring The Autobiography of Malcolm X [09:42–10:07].

• The family stories become an obsession, pushing Haley to attempt the unprecedented: tracing his family’s origins back to Africa.

• Research obstacles: absence of official records for enslaved people, only numbers and ages in ledgers [12:19]; family stories are the only clues.

• Quote:

  “It just seemed to me that if you really knew the story behind us as a people ... every one of us ought to weep.” – Alex Haley [05:25]

III. Reconstructing the Past: Journey to Africa (14:06–18:08)

• Haley uses linguistic analysis to identify “Camby Bolongo” as likely referencing the Gambia River [14:54].
• Organizes a complex trip to Juffure, The Gambia, with interpreters and musicians for local griots [15:36].
• The emotional climax: meeting Keba Kanye Fofana, a griot who narrates the story of the Kinte family, confirming oral traditions that Kunta was lost collecting wood [16:33–17:13].
• Quote:

  “I knew at that moment that I had become ... the first one of the 22 millions of us who had been enabled, privileged, honored, missioned to cross that ocean ... and maybe to know something about us.” – Alex Haley [17:40]

IV. Writing and Filming Roots (19:08–25:42)

• Mai (Myron) Haley’s Role: Haley’s third wife helps him, speeding up the writing process and assisting with dialogue [20:40].

• Details on writing and producing under pressure as the miniseries was being scripted before the book was complete.

• Casting LeVar Burton as Kunta Kinte:

  • LeVar Burton describes the vulnerability, gravity, and privilege of being cast as Kunta Kinte [23:40–24:35].
  • Haley gives Burton a pre-publication manuscript, marking the harrowing middle passage sequence.
  • Filming evoked the ancestors and required great emotional effort.

• Quote:

  “I really feel like the ancestors came in and helped me get through those moments. Reliving those moments, reenacting those moments.” – LeVar Burton [25:30]

V. The Impact: Nationwide Awakening and Discomfort (26:14–33:01)

• Roots catapults Haley to rockstar fame; the book sells a million copies in months and the miniseries becomes a global sensation.

  • Fans clamor for autographs everywhere — even at urinals [26:47].
  • The miniseries fundamentally alters American television and spurs a dramatic rise in genealogical research among all Americans [28:38].

• Immediate public conversation:

  • Reactions from both Black and White communities. Some discomfort and heightened racial awareness in schools and workplaces [31:11].
  • Quote:

    “At school the next day — there was a lot of tension … kind of looking sideways at, you know, our white classmates and teachers.” – Zenobia Harper [31:11]

  • Some White viewers sent in letters protesting the portrayal of slavery, and prominent figures like Ronald Reagan expressed concern [30:11].

• Critique:

  • The narrative focuses on personal triumph and puts a “nice little bow” on the story, largely sidestepping ongoing structural racism [32:38–33:01].
  • Quote:

    “There is no understanding of how systemic or structural racism works ... There’s no feeling other than, ‘oh, man, that was bad.’” – Kelly Carter Jackson [32:43]

VI. Historical Accuracy and Controversy (34:22–45:38)

• Journalists and historians, including Donald Wright, start to question the accuracy of Haley’s genealogy and the griot’s account.

• Investigations show that the griot Haley met was not officially recognized, and crucial details may have been supplied to him by Gambian officials eager to help [38:54].

• The tape of Haley’s meeting shows him searching for evidence that supports his preconceived narrative [41:16–42:49].

• Quote:

  “He was trying to tell a better story, and he was going to stay committed to that story, no matter the contrary evidence.” – Josh Levin [43:31]

• The story of Kunta Kinte turns out to be twofold:

  • The historical truth of African people being kidnapped—universally accepted.
  • The personal family tracing, which relies on wishful thinking and blurred lines between fact and fiction, but serves a cultural aspiration [44:44].

VII. Legacy, Plagiarism, and Aftermath (45:38–47:01)

• In 1978, Haley faces a plagiarism lawsuit by Harold Courlander; Haley settles for $650,000 and is internally devastated [45:38–46:35].

• Despite the setbacks, Roots leaves an indelible mark:

  • Contrasts the fantasy of Gone with the Wind, aired just months before, with the visceral truth of Roots [47:01–48:24].
  • Inspires new generations to research genealogy, and paves the way for DNA-based ancestry research [49:17].

• Quote:

  “I can look at Roots and see its flaws and see where it falls short and see where it’s inaccurate and still see the beauty and the power.” – Kelly Carter Jackson [48:58]

VIII. Final Reflections & Enduring Influence (49:17–end)

• Despite its flaws, Roots provides an essential, corrective narrative to American history, centering Black experiences and the search for identity and belonging.

• As research tools improve, the promise of knowing one’s lineage — once only fantasy — becomes increasingly attainable for Black Americans.

• Closing Quote:

  “Once the legacy comes of the talents of the black people permitted to unfold, that this country will become ... quite truly, the greatest country on the face of this earth.” – Alex Haley [49:31]

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “It made me start to think about blackness and what it meant to be in this black skin.” – Zenobia Harper [04:23]
• “Alex Haley’s great skill is he was a tremendous storyteller. There was something mesmerizing in the way that he spoke.” – Matt Delmont [13:48]
• “He was crushed because he said nothing negative was my intention … and I know that to be so in his heart.” – Mai Haley [46:09]
• “Gone with the Wind is this very harmful, toxic, racist presentation of an America that just did not exist, never existed.” – Kelly Carter Jackson [48:02]
• “It doesn’t matter if it’s not true ... I need this.” – Kelly Carter Jackson [45:14]

Key Segments & Timestamps

• First broadcast reactions: 00:54–05:25
• Haley’s family and research quest: 05:25–14:06
• Journey to Africa & griot meeting: 14:54–18:08
• Writing, casting, and filming of Roots: 19:08–25:42
• National reception & cultural impact: 26:14–33:01
• Historical doubts and tape revelations: 34:22–45:38
• Plagiarism and emotional fallout: 45:38–47:01
• Legacy, comparison to Gone with the Wind, and future of genealogy: 47:01–49:31

This episode provides a rich, multi-voiced examination of Roots as a cultural phenomenon—one whose legacy is both complicated and transformative. It is essential listening for anyone interested in history, narrative, and the enduring quest for identity.