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Megan Coyle
This year has been flying by.
Sally French
Believe it or not, it's already time to start planning summer travel. If you want to find some of.
Megan Coyle
The best deals, I need to get going on that. I'm flying to Northern Virginia to see my family dogs and go to my friend's birthday. I hear they even made matching shirts for the birthday.
Sally French
Amazing. You are part of 44% of Americans who say they plan to take a summer vacation requiring a flight or hotel stay. This year, we are going to dig into that data and share some tips for your summer travels.
Megan Coyle
The matching shirts are optional though.
Sally French
Welcome to Smart Travel, a deep dive into the tips, tools and tactics to maximize your travel dollars.
Megan Coyle
I'm Megan Coyle.
Sally French
And I'm Sally French and we're the.
Megan Coyle
Travel nerds ready to help you plan.
Sally French
Your next big trip, which could be this summer. We found lots of fun data so you'll know when and where the crowds will be. Where there are crowds, there are high prices. So hopefully by the end of this, you'll know how to avoid both.
Megan Coyle
But first, the news and our usual disclaimer. We'll talk about a few credit card companies that are Nerd Wallet partners in this episode, but that doesn't influence how we discuss them.
Sally French
Megan, There is this bank adding Lyft credits to one of their cards. As it turns out, we are no longer allowed to say their name on this podcast, but to help you listeners out, their name rhymes with face or space or trace or lace.
Megan Coyle
We could keep doing this.
Sally French
Anyway, this unnamed bank is adding Lyft credits to one of their most popular travel credit cards. Again, I cannot say the name of this specific card out loud on this podcast. I know, I'm sorry, but if you've been listening to this, you know what card I'm talking about. It's the one with the super high annual fee. It has good statement credits, but the bad news is they are slashing the card's earning rates on Lyft. I wrote an article which actually does have the cards named in it. We will link to that in the show description and we can print the names of the cards in the article, just not say them on the podcast. So again, check, check out that link in the show description.
Megan Coyle
I feel like there's been a lot of rideshare news lately like Delta also moving from Lyft to Uber. So definitely check that out so you can plan your ride shares accordingly.
Sally French
And the new era of Southwest is already here as well. The airline just unveiled its new dynamic pricing and I guess as the name suggests, it's all over the place.
Megan Coyle
Our colleague Craig Joseph just crunched the numbers and for wanna Getaway plus fares, which are sort of the new non basic fares, non basic economy, the valuation is around 1.44 cents per point. So not super different from what we had before as a Southwest valuation. We used to say it was 1.5 cents per point, but remember this is a higher fare class. Now we used to see that valuation for the lowest fare class which let you bring those free checked bags. And also you could change it like up to 10 minutes before the flight. And again, just seeing a lot of variation in flight prices, especially if you look at some of the other fares we've seen as low as 1.1 cents per point. So definitely not great if you are a huge Southwest flyer and using your points a lot.
Sally French
Yeah, you know, it's been a rough go for Southwest Flyers recently. A lot of changes and most of them not for the best. I will say this is a good example of why you should collect transferable points. Because when stuff like this happens, when your Southwest points get devalued, at least with transferable points, you can just choose to transfer them to another better partner.
Megan Coyle
And if all of that makes you think about leaving Southwest, Delta wants your business. The airlines offering a higher medallion status match when you enroll in the Medallion Status match challenge only through September 30th of this year. So a list will now match to Delta's gold medallion status and a list preferred will match to Delta's platinum medallion status. And I would just say this is a great time to be a Southwest elite flyer looking to change loyalty because American Airlines is also doing the same thing. There's a limited time status match. If you have Southwest status, you should look into some of these offers.
Sally French
So maybe not the worst to be a Southwest loyalist because you can status match to these other airlines anyway.
Megan Coyle
That can be super powerful.
Sally French
And speaking of status matching, MGM Rewards, which is the loyalty program for MGM resorts and casinos, they announced some new status matches to Marriott. So Marriott and MGM joined forces in 2023. They already had some status matching for the MGM Rewards with the two highest tiers of status to Marriott's two highest tiers. But now MGM Rewards Pearl members can earn Marriott Bonvoy tier matching benefits. They're getting Silver Elite status and MGM Rewards Gold can now get Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status.
Megan Coyle
Now Marriott Silver Elite status isn't worth much, but Marriott Gold could get you a possible room upgrade if one is available. So if you happen to be traveling outside of Vegas or somewhere else with MGM Properties. Marriott probably has a property there and it could be cool to use these benefits.
Sally French
I love the Marriott portfolio in Vegas. You know I'm a sucker for the Bellagio now. I know you visited a new lounge last week, Megan. Tell us about that.
Megan Coyle
I went to the new Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse at lax. I already went to the flagship Virgin Clubhouse in London back in February, so I'm glad to have another option a lot closer to home. You have to fly Virgin upper class to get access for the most part, but it was very glamorous. I really like the phone booths that they have because they made them look like recording studios. Virgin also owns Virgin Records, so it was a very sweet nod to that.
Sally French
Maybe we could record our next podcast episode right there.
Megan Coyle
Honestly, we could. The soundproofing was so good. Check out my review of it on the Nerd Wallet website and you'll find the link in the episode description.
Sally French
I loved your photo of the miso donuts. I need one.
Megan Coyle
Those were really good. So Sally Summer travel is back in full Force and it's Expensive this year's summer travelers expect to spend an average of $3,861 on their summer trip expenses. And that's according to a study commissioned by NerdWallet and conducted online by the Harris Poll. But here's the catch. Some of last year's travelers are still in debt from their 2024 trips.
Sally French
Yes, indeed. So 30% of those who use credit cards to cover summer travel last year still have not paid off their balances. For Gen Z travelers specifically, that Number jumps to 45%.
Megan Coyle
Now, NerdWallet does not recommend carrying a balance in most cases. If you can afford to, you should pay your bills in full and on time each month to avoid any late fees or interest.
Sally French
Now, there are certainly situations where you need to take on debt to pay for everyday life expenses like gas and groc groceries. But on this show we tend to talk about credit cards in the context of earning fancy rewards, getting VIP perks to fund travel. Now these cards that offer all of these benefits that we talk about on the show tend to have higher interest rates which very quickly outpace the value of any rewards. So if you are someone who pays for summer travel on a credit card, we generally only recommend using the fancy travel credit cards we talk about on this show. For people who regularly pay off their balances in full every month, that's a.
Megan Coyle
Really important reminder that if you're swiping your way to a summer getaway, make sure you have a plan to pay it off before interest negates any rewards you could possibly earn.
Sally French
But Speaking of rewards, 85% of summer travelers are using credit cards to cover some of their expenses this year. So let's talk about how to make the rewards you earn, the benefits that come from those cards, work for you.
Megan Coyle
Okay. Another survey finding people are getting savvier with their points and miles this year.
Sally French
You'll love to see it.
Megan Coyle
According to Amex's 2025 Global Travel Trends report, 50% of travelers plan to use credit card rewards for their trip. We love that. Another big trend we're seeing stacking benefits from multiple loyalty programs to get upgrades.
Sally French
Yes. You know, this was an interesting report, and people are getting smart. 58% of travelers say they are likely going to do this. So stacking benefits basically just means you use multiple benefits from either credit cards or other loyalty programs in one fell swoop.
Megan Coyle
We do this often. All right, give me an example of your best stack, Sally.
Sally French
I do have a good one, so I hope you're ready for this.
Megan Coyle
I'm ready.
Sally French
So I went to Vegas with my fiance for ces. It's a big tech conference. So many people are there. Prices are crazy. We flew Southwest using my companion pass. I know we talk about this pass all the time on the show. It lets me bring someone for free, aside from taxes and fees. So I got that pass from hitting an intro offer on a Southwest credit card.
Megan Coyle
Nice.
Sally French
Before the flight, we had dinner at the Centurion Lounge. That means free food, free drinks. We're going to Vegas. Good vibes. We got in using my Platinum card from American Express.
Megan Coyle
You love your free food and the lounges. 1 of 37.
Sally French
I know. This show is beginning to sound the same. Anyway, so once we landed, I used my Uber credit again from the Platinum card to cover most of our ride to the hotel. We stayed at the Waldorf Astoria right there on the Las Vegas Strip using a free night certificate from my Hilton Aspire card.
Megan Coyle
And you've talked about that card before. This card has a 550 annual fee, so it's not cheap.
Sally French
I fully agree. This fee is high. It is not for every everyone. But this specific night we stayed, room rates that night alone were well over $550. That is the trifecta of a fancy hotel on a weekend in Vegas and during CES Weekend, as you said, no less. Okay. So then I got my breakfast at the hotel covered because the card also gives me automatic diamond status, which gives a food and beverage credit. Good at any time of the day.
Megan Coyle
So basically for the travel expenses, you only paid for that one person round trip to Vegas and then your fiance was able to come with you. You got the hotel night at a discount, got the lounge access. That was a pretty good stack.
Sally French
Yes, exactly. Totally double dipping.
Megan Coyle
And sometimes you can do it with just one card. The example I'm thinking of, there are these offers that show up in your credit card issuers app like Amex Offers. I've definitely used those offers to get a discount on a stay at a certain hotel brand within the Hilton portfolio. And with the Amex Platinum, I have Hilton gold status. So I also got a daily food and beverage cred and a slight room upgrade.
Sally French
Very nice. Now, I do like those offers you mentioned. One thing that's irritating about them though is with things like Amex offers, you have to manually add the offers to your card to get the discounts. So before you go shopping and spend your card, go through and see what offers actually apply to you and then make sure that you add them to your account.
Megan Coyle
They can be super helpful, but you have to remember to do that. There are also, honestly, endless combinations of stacks. Probably the most obvious ones are airline or hotel credit cards or elite status. I do want to call out though that you might have some other types of travel benefits too on those cards. Like some come with rental car elite status, which is a great way to skip the line at the rental car counter and also maybe get a slightly better vehicle. So we can link to the list of those cards in the episode description. All right, we've got lots more to say about points transfers. Stay with us. We're back in a moment.
Sally French
It's April, but it is time to talk about summer travel. So maybe you have a plan already with how you're going to stack your rewards. But let's talk about how far in advance do you think you should book? Megan, how early do you book summer travel?
Megan Coyle
Whenever the price alert tells me. Kidding. But like, not really. It depends where you're going, of course, right?
Sally French
Yes. So with domestic flights, NerdWallet recommends that you book one to three months in advance. So if we're talking about summer travel, let's say July, you're looking at booking in April, that's now. So I'm so glad you're listening to the show so we can remind you to actually go ahead and book this.
Megan Coyle
And another good reminder right here is set those price alerts and keep an eye out for a price that you'd be willing to pay. And then buy it. If you purchase main cabin fares, you'll be able to rebook if the price drops any further. What about for international flights?
Sally French
Sally for international flights, NerdWallet recommends booking two to eight months in advance. So if we're talking about a July trip internationally, May is really the latest that you should be booking to get any sort of good deal. Honestly though, you could have started booking as early as last November. That would have not been a bad idea to start getting those good deals.
Megan Coyle
I'm stressed. I'm behind. Okay, get going. The good thing is, though, that I usually don't worry about which day of the week I'm buying the flight. I'm more worried about the day that I'm actually flying. So generally, Sunday is the most expensive.
Sally French
Day to fly and most crowded and.
Megan Coyle
Most crowded Thursday and Saturday are the cheapest days to fly. And that's all according to Expedia's 2025 Air Travel Hacks report, domestic flights on Saturday average about 17% less than Sunday flights. So flying home on Saturday is nice because you have that day to vacation from your vacation, AKA do your laundry, do the meal prepping, get your life in order before you go back to work. I'm a big fan actually of coming home on Saturdays now.
Sally French
Me too. So the exception to this rule is holiday weekends. I'm talking about things this summer like Memorial Day and Fourth of July of Memorial Day is always one of the busiest times to fly. Most people will take off on the Friday before Memorial Day and then they'll extend their trip beyond Sunday and then go out on Monday. Because of this, we typically say Sunday is the most expensive day to fly, but that's not really the case Memorial Day weekend because people sort of treat that Monday like this Sunday and they actually fly out the Monday. So do keep that in mind when you're planning Memorial Day weekend travel. Even people fly out on the Thursday before, so understand that weekend kind of is a deviation from the standard weekday crowds.
Megan Coyle
Similar advice for if you're doing a road trip, those same days are usually pretty crowded as well.
Sally French
Yes, if you're trying to beat traffic, same rules apply. Now NerdWallet looks at the best and worst days to fly of some of these major holidays. Visit nerdwallet.com, we'll put our link in the show description so you can see the best and worst days to fly on specific holiday weekends.
Megan Coyle
And let's talk about 4th of July this year. This one is really tricky because Fourth of July moves around on the day of the week it is this year, 4th of July falls on a Friday, and many people will have that Friday off. So you can expect Thursday evening to be very busy at the airports and on the roads. And Sunday, July 6, when people are returning from this long weekend, that would also be another busy time.
Sally French
Yes. So many travelers, myself included, are going to make Fourth of July a long weekend this year. I'm flying out on Thursday. I'm returning on Monday. I'm going with some friends to San Antonio because they have a great Fourth of July celebration that I want to see.
Megan Coyle
Oh, fun.
Sally French
Yeah, I know. I'm so excited. But let's talk about other trends we're seeing and where people are going this summer.
Megan Coyle
So if we're talking international travel, I think Europe is going to continue to be a huge draw this year. It is pretty much every year. But I saw some interesting data from Cirium, an aviation analytics company. They looked at how many seats airlines are adding on routes to European countries, and it's a good clue to where airlines think the demand will be. Do you want to guess what the most popular country in Europe is for the summer?
Sally French
Oh, I quizzed you on the national park. So you're quizzing me now?
Megan Coyle
Retribution.
Sally French
Okay. I do think most people just end up for their first European trip going to Italy. So I'm going to say Italy.
Megan Coyle
Wow, you're so good. It is Italy. Yes.
Sally French
I can keep my job.
Megan Coyle
It's been exploding in popularity over the past few years, and this year is special because it's the Catholic Jubilee. Millions of Catholics are expected to make this pilgrimage. So I would expect Rome to be extremely crowded this summer. If you look at the big three U.S. carriers, American Airlines, United Airlines, and Delta Airlines, all of them added routes to Italian cities like Rome, Milan, Naples, Palermo, other Italian destinations this summer. So that's where they are expecting demand to be super high, huh?
Sally French
And I'm glad you brought this up. I actually worked with Dollar Flight Club to put together a piece on where to fly cheaply to Europe this summer.
Megan Coyle
Oh, that's.
Sally French
Yes. And you know, we often recommend if you want to go to Italy, sometimes you don't fly directly into Italy. You can fly to another destination where you get that cheaper transatlantic flight and then find either cheaper flight or even take the train to your final destination. So I worked with Dollar Flight Club to find some data, and we found six routes from major US airports where average flights to Europe are under $900 round trip this summer.
Megan Coyle
All right, let's hear them. Rapid fire.
Sally French
Okay, let's Go. So there's Atlanta to Reykjavik, Iceland, ATL to London, Dallas, Fort Worth to Amsterdam, Denver to Amsterdam, Denver to Paris, and Miami to Munich.
Megan Coyle
Nice.
Sally French
Another great destination is Japan. I feel like everyone I know on the planet is going to Japan. Yeah. Two cities, Osaka and Tokyo, were in the top five trending international destinations in Google flight searches for summer 2025. Curacao and St. Lucia, both Caribbean islands, were also in the top five on that trending Google flights destinations list.
Megan Coyle
And San Juan, Puerto Rico and Maui were on that list for top domestic destinations. So there are a lot of great islands out there if that's what you're looking for this summer.
Sally French
Let's pivot to the opposite end of the spectrum. Let's talk about theme parks. There is so much happening in the theme park universe this summer.
Megan Coyle
I'm so excited. Annie just got back from one, so let's hear about it.
Sally French
I was just at Disney World. We're going to talk about that later. But the really big thing on my mind is its competitor just across the road. That is Universal Epic Universe. It is a new theme park opening in Orlando. It's part of the Universal Studios family of theme parks. And in fact, it's the first new Orlando theme park opening in more than 25 years.
Megan Coyle
Yes. You put together a huge guide to what we should expect to see at Universal Epic Universe, which opens May 22. I'll put that in the episode description of today's show, but what are your highlights?
Sally French
Okay, so already there are two existing Universal theme parks and each of those have their own Harry Potter lands. When Epic Universe opens, it'll have a its own Harry Potter land. That makes for three Harry Potter lands you could experience in the Universal parks. The first one was tied to Hogsmeade. There's one tied to Diagon Alley, and this third one is going to be actually kind of French inspired. That's because it is themed to the newer Fantastic Beasts franchise, Harry Potter, the.
Megan Coyle
Gift that keeps giving.
Sally French
Everyone always talks about over at Disney Star Rise of the Resistance. But there is a ride that the people tell me is going to beat that in terms of cool factor. It's Harry Potter and the battle at the Ministry. So that'll be over at Epic Universe. We're gonna have to check it out to actually put it to the test.
Megan Coyle
If it's truly better and if it gives you as much motion sickness as the other Harry Potter rides.
Sally French
And then of course, everyone knows Butterbeer, they're going to be serving that in this park as well. Besides Harry Potter. There's going to be a Super Nintendo World. There's already one in Hollywood. This one is going to be even bigger than the Universal Studios Hollywood version. It'll have a Donkey Kong country that will feature its own roller coaster called Minecraft Heart Madness. Megan, you've been to the Super Nintendo World in Hollywood? I have not.
Megan Coyle
Yeah, it was super fun. It's very immersive, and they really try to make you feel like you're exploring that land. There are these little mini games you can do with these bands, but the bands are $40. So on top of, like, early entry to get into just Nintendo Land, I think it's really expensive for what's there. There's also only one ride at the Universal Hollywood version of this park, and there's some cool things about it. I don't want to give too much away, like you get to wear these cut Mario hats. But, yeah, that was kind of my review of the ride.
Sally French
Okay, I will say I don't want to be like a complete ad for the Epic Universe version, but this one is going to have more rides. It's going to have some of the same stuff. It's going to have the mushroom restaurant, which I want to go to. But of course, we're adding more rides here. Speaking of more rides outside of Super Nintendo World, there's also something called Dark Universe. This is not tied to a singular franchise, but rather the Universal monsters. So we're talking about Dracula, Frankenstein's monster, and then also. I cannot believe I have not seen this movie, but how to Train youn Dragon. There.
Megan Coyle
Sally, you have not seen how to Train youn Dragon.
Sally French
I know. It's like, it's on my to do list. I promise someday.
Megan Coyle
This is part of your cultural education.
Sally French
I know.
Megan Coyle
This is such a great film.
Sally French
Okay, I'm gonna see it.
Megan Coyle
There's also a live action remake of that coming. So you have a lot of things to watch.
Sally French
Yeah, okay, let's do that this weekend when I'm not traveling.
Megan Coyle
All right, let's move on to Disney World. That's the one you just got back from.
Sally French
What's really interesting about Disney World is I think they know all eyes are on Epic Universe, so they are offering tons of deals. Now, this summer, beginning May 27 through September 20, Disney World is selling 50% off kids tickets for three days or longer. Disney does define kids as ages 3 through 9, so 10 and up does not apply, which is crazy, by the way. I think it's like, because people like me, I'm 32 and I'm like, I'm a kid, I'm a kid.
Megan Coyle
So.
Sally French
So they're like, no cutoff is not other deals if you're not a kid, there is a three day, three park ticket which starts at $89 per day. So that's $267 total. That's great if you're adults. The catch is it is not good at the main Magic Kingdom park. It only works at Epcot, Disney's Hollywood Studios and Disney's Animal Kingdom.
Megan Coyle
I love Animal Kingdom so I could spend a few days there.
Sally French
Honestly, same. And another deal that people love is the dining plan. This basically gets you kind of like coupons that you can use at the restaurant. Really alleviates the pain of pain because you don't have to whip out your credit card. It's on the app. It's like a digital coupon so you can dine. And if you purchase a non discounted, four night, four day package that includes a room at certain Disney owned hotels with tickets, then you actually get the free dining plan. So this is a great way to save a ton of money, especially if you can maximize it and you love to eat at all the restaurants.
Megan Coyle
Okay, so lots of great discounts for the summer. But what I found the most interesting was that article you wrote about prices to visit Disney World in the summer. Can you tell us a little more about that?
Sally French
I was actually shocked. We were going through all the data of Disney World ticket prices. I manually pulled this all by hand and I looked at average ticket prices by month. Surprisingly, summer is one of the cheapest times to go to Disney World. Believe it or not, the most expensive times are December. October. People want to celebrate the holidays there. But if you go In September, average one day ticket prices are $125. August, $133. Compare that to the average, which is $153. So go in the summer and believe it or not, you save money.
Megan Coyle
Okay, that's unexpected because everyone's out of school. But it sounds like it's a little.
Sally French
Cheaper, but it's hotter. So that's a trade off.
Megan Coyle
Yeah, that's true. Okay, let's move over to the west coast to Disneyland near me. What's going on there?
Sally French
It is Disneyland's 70th anniversary. Technically their anniversary is July 17, but you know Disney, they love to extend the birthday as long as possible. So their celebration kicks off on May 16th and then it actually runs through summer 2026. But really, if you want to experience it, this summer is the time to go I love their World of Color water show. They're going to swap out some scenes with some new songs. I am most excited for the Boys, Two men. They're going to do their own rendition of Rainbow Connection, so I want to go just to hear that.
Megan Coyle
I don't even know what Rainbow Connection is, but that's amazing.
Sally French
It's a Muppets song.
Megan Coyle
Okay, that was a deep cut. I'm not a big Muppets.
Sally French
Okay. Okay. So you watch Muppets and I'll watch how to Train youn Dragon.
Megan Coyle
Perfect. We have our homework. I'm so excited for summer at theme parks. I can already smell the funnel cake.
Sally French
So that's enough about theme parks. It is time for hot takeoffs. Megan, you told me over slack that you have one you're excited to share, so hit me.
Megan Coyle
A few episodes ago, we talked about whether Elite status is worth it.
Sally French
I rarely think it's worth it.
Megan Coyle
Yeah. But one of the perks really came in handy for me right when I needed it.
Sally French
Okay, sell me on.
Megan Coyle
I have American Airlines gold status, as our regular listeners know, and that's the lowest level of Elite status. And a few weeks ago, I was going to visit my friend for the weekend, but I did not feel well. Like, ugh. Yeah, I did not want to fly and I just didn't want to take my pseudo red eye that departed at 1am So I was like, can I switch it? I just want to sleep in my bed one more time.
Sally French
Yeah, I'm inclined to say, no, you can't switch it because it's going to be so expensive.
Megan Coyle
I called American Airlines and I pleaded my case and they were like, the best we can do is put you on a flight flight two days later and charge you $500 for the fare difference.
Sally French
That's what I would have guessed.
Megan Coyle
There's no way. So I asked if I could do standby later for free. And it turns out that's a highly underrated perk of Elite status. If you are just a regular member of American Airlines loyalty program, you can only stand by on earlier flights. And my flight was at 1am so what was I going to do? Leave at midnight? Yeah, but with Elite status, you can stand by on a later flight as long as it leaves on the same day, goes between the same airports, and has the same number of stops.
Sally French
That's an interesting attempt. But if you fly standby, there is no guarantee you'll actually get on the flight.
Megan Coyle
But if you have Elite status, you'll also be slightly higher on the standby. List. I was number two on the list for both the flights that I flew standby on and that's with the lowest level of elite status. Of course, there are other factors too, like if you paid for your ticket in cash versus miles. But here's my hot take. I think if you're smart about the rank risks, flying standby later has got to be one of the best perks of airline elite status.
Sally French
Definitely risky, but I guess that's why we call this a hot take. Take off. I should say so. So we're gonna have to do another show, I think on more standby tips because that's definitely interesting and especially people who like to gamble. This might be the way to go and it could save you money and.
Megan Coyle
You could fly at a better time.
Sally French
I guess so People listening out there. If you've got more questions, send them our way at travelerdwallet or you can hit us with a voice memo because I love to hear your voice.
Megan Coyle
We also want your honest feedback on this show. We would be grateful if you could write us a review and rate our show on your favorite podcast app, including Spotify, Apple Podcasts and iHeartRadio.
Sally French
Five stars and a nice comment are definitely welcome, but we take feedback of all times. We do have thick skin.
Megan Coyle
This episode was produced by Hilary Georgi and Tess Viglen. Claire Socie helped with fact checking and a big thank you to Nicholas Karisimi for editing our audio.
Sally French
And here's our brief disclaimer. We are not financial or investment advisors. This info is provided for general educational and entertainment purposes and may not apply to your specific circumstances.
Megan Coyle
Thanks for listening. We hope you're inspired to keep your passport full and your wallet even fuller. See you next episode.
Smart Travel: Upgrade Your Getaways – Episode Summary: How to Plan Smarter and Save More on Summer Travel
In the latest episode of Smart Travel: Upgrade Your Getaways, hosts Sally French and Meghan Coyle from NerdWallet Travel delve into comprehensive strategies to maximize your travel budget for the upcoming summer. Released on April 2, 2025, this episode is packed with expert advice, insider tips, and actionable insights to help listeners plan an unforgettable and cost-effective vacation. Below is a detailed summary capturing all the key points, discussions, and conclusions from the episode.
The episode kicks off with the hosts acknowledging how quickly the year is passing and emphasizing the importance of early summer travel planning.
They introduce the episode's focus on leveraging data and expert tips to find the best travel deals, avoid crowds, and manage travel expenses effectively.
a. Credit Card Partnerships and Changes
Sally discusses recent changes in credit card offerings related to travel rewards, highlighting the impact on travelers.
Meghan adds context by mentioning shifts in the rideshare landscape, noting that Delta is transitioning from Lyft to Uber.
b. Airline Loyalty Programs and Status Matching
Sally and Meghan explore changes in airline loyalty programs, specifically focusing on Southwest Airlines' recent updates and the benefits of transferable points.
Meghan highlights opportunities for Southwest elite flyers to match their status with other airlines, such as Delta and American Airlines.
c. Marriott and MGM Rewards Partnership
The hosts discuss the new status matching benefits between MGM Rewards and Marriott Bonvoy, enabling members to achieve higher elite statuses across both programs.
a. Balancing Rewards and Debt
Sally and Meghan emphasize the importance of managing credit card usage to maximize rewards without falling into debt.
Sally French [06:27]: "These cards that offer all of these benefits... tend to have higher interest rates which very quickly outpace the value of any rewards."
Meghan Coyle [07:02]: "If you're swiping your way to a summer getaway, make sure you have a plan to pay it off before interest negates any rewards you could possibly earn."
b. Maximizing Credit Card Rewards
The hosts share insights on how 85% of summer travelers are utilizing credit cards to cover expenses, encouraging listeners to optimize their reward points.
a. Stacking Rewards for Maximum Value
Sally and Meghan discuss the growing trend of stacking benefits from multiple loyalty programs to secure upgrades and enhance travel experiences.
b. Real-Life Examples and Tips
Sally shares a personal example of how she effectively stacked benefits during a trip to Las Vegas, utilizing multiple credit cards and loyalty programs to cover flights, hotel stays, and dining.
Meghan adds her strategy of leveraging Amex Offers to gain discounts and elevate her hotel stay.
a. Optimal Booking Windows
The hosts provide recommendations for booking domestic and international flights to secure the best deals.
b. Best Days to Fly
Insights from Expedia's 2025 Air Travel Hacks report reveal that certain days offer better pricing and less crowded flights.
c. Navigating Holiday Travel Peaks
Sally warns about deviations in travel patterns during major holidays like Memorial Day and the Fourth of July, advising listeners to plan accordingly.
a. Popular International Destinations
Italy tops the list as the most sought-after European destination, buoyed by the Catholic Jubilee attracting millions to Rome.
Sally shares data-driven insights on affordable flight routes to Europe, highlighting six major U.S. airports offering round-trip fares under $900.
b. Emerging Destinations
Japan, specifically Osaka and Tokyo, along with Caribbean islands like Curacao and St. Lucia, are gaining traction as top summer destinations.
c. Top Domestic Destinations
San Juan, Puerto Rico, and Maui feature prominently in domestic travel searches, appealing to those seeking island getaways.
a. Universal Epic Universe Opening
Sally introduces Universal Epic Universe, Universal Studios' newest theme park in Orlando, expected to rival Disney with its extensive offerings.
Features include multiple Harry Potter lands, Super Nintendo World with a new Minecraft-themed roller coaster, and Dark Universe showcasing Universal monsters.
b. Disney World Summer Deals
Sally reveals exclusive summer discounts at Disney World, including 50% off kids' tickets and special offers on dining plans and multi-day packages.
She also uncovers an unexpected revelation about Disney World's pricing strategy, noting that summer is one of the most affordable times to visit despite the heat.
In the segment titled "Hot Takeoffs," Meghan shares her experience with utilizing elite status perks to switch flights without incurring exorbitant fees.
Sally discusses the potential and risks associated with flying standby, emphasizing that while it offers flexibility, there are no guarantees of securing a seat.
The hosts wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to engage with them through reviews and feedback, and to stay tuned for future episodes packed with more travel insights.
For more detailed tips, tools, and strategies to make your summer travel both memorable and budget-friendly, be sure to listen to the full episode of Smart Travel: Upgrade Your Getaways with Sally French and Meghan Coyle.