123 - Odd One Out (w/ Scotty Icenogle)

Summary

SmartLess Presents ClueLess Episode 123: Odd One Out (w/ Sean Hayes and Scotty Icenogle) Release Date: January 30, 2025

SmartLess Presents ClueLess, hosted by Emmy-winning writer Elliott Kaelin, invites listeners into a world of puzzles, brainteasers, and conundrums in a fun and engaging biweekly format. In Episode 123, titled "Odd One Out," Elliott welcomes recurring contestant Sean Hayes and guest Scotty Icenogle for an episode filled with challenging riddles and lively discussions.

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1. Welcome and Introduction

[01:18] Elliott Kaelin:
Elliott opens the episode by setting the stage for a friendly yet competitive puzzle-solving showdown between the listeners and Sean Hayes. He humorously notes his new haircut, immediately engaging the audience with his vibrant personality.

[01:57] Elliott Kaelin:
Introducing Sean Hayes, Elliott highlights Sean's impressive credentials: "the man who's got an Emmy, a Tony, and a Scottie." Sean's warm and humorous response, "[01:45] Sean Hayes: That's really funny. Hi. Thank you for having me today. This is incredible," sets a welcoming tone for the episode.

2. Resolving the Previous Cliffhanger Puzzle

[02:37] Elliott Kaelin:
Elliott revisits the previous episode's cliffhanger puzzle, a math-related riddle: "If 1 and 1 equals 6 and 1 and 3 equals 8. What do 1 and 4 equal?"

[03:00] Sean Hayes:
Sean ventures a guess at 9, based on adding the numbers mathematically, stating, "[03:04] Sean Hayes: I hope I'm right. Is it nine?"

[03:26] Elliott Kaelin:
Elliott reveals the correct answer is 7, explaining, "[03:26] Elliott Kaelin: The correct answer in this case is seven. Because you're adding up the numbers of letters. There's six letters in one and one... seven letters in one and four." This twist from a mathematical to a linguistic approach showcases the podcast's creative puzzle designs.

[03:50] Sean Hayes:
Sean appreciates the unique solution: "[03:50] Sean Hayes: That’s good. That’s good."

3. Introducing the Main Puzzle: Odd One Out

[06:33] Elliott Kaelin:
Transitioning smoothly, Elliott introduces the episode's main game, Odd One Out, framed within a rock and roll dream scenario involving a Guns N' Roses reunion. He explains the setup where each band member must decide which item to leave behind during their soundcheck.

[07:44] Sean Hayes:
Elliott presents the first scenario for Izzy: "cream, a goat, a cottage, and a clover." Sean quickly identifies the odd one out.

[08:18] Sean Hayes:
"Clover. Here's why. The goat cheese, cottage cheese, cream cheese. There's no clover cheese."
Elliott commends Sean’s quick thinking, highlighting the category-based reasoning.

4. Collaborative Puzzle Solving

Throughout the episode, Elliott, Sean, and Scotty engage in dynamic interactions as they tackle each Odd One Out puzzle:

• Steven's Items: "a tiger, a ladybug, a candy cane, and a referee."
  Scotty Icenogle: "Ladybug."
  (09:09)
  Scotty correctly identifies "ladybug" as the odd one out, linking the others to striped NBA teams.

• Duff's Items: "a horseshoe, a jazz record, a rocket, and the sun."
  Scotty Icenogle: "Horseshoe."
  (09:36)
  Scotty reasons that "horseshoe" doesn't align with NBA team names like Utah Jazz, Houston Rockets, and Phoenix Suns.

• Slash's Items: "a penny, an eel, a guitar, and a toothbrush."
  Sean Hayes: "Penny."
  (10:21)
  Sean discerns that "penny" doesn't fit the electric theme of the other items.

• Axel's Items: "a piano, a wishbone, a toolbox, and an ear."
  Scotty Icenogle: "Wishbone."
  (11:58)
  Scotty notes that "wishbone" is the odd one out as the others contain a hammer component.

5. Mega Clue Question

[12:44] Elliott Kaelin:
After solving the individual puzzles, Elliott poses a mega clue: "Why did the band go on a losing streak after the concert?"
He hints that the answer relates to the items they left behind: "clover, ladybug, horseshoe, penny, and wishbone."

[13:03] Scotty Icenogle:
Scotty quickly connects the dots, stating, "Aren’t these all symbols of luck?"

[13:05] Elliott Kaelin:
Elliott confirms, "Exactly right. They left their luckiest items behind." This reinforces the thematic consistency of luck-based puzzles throughout the episode.

6. Introducing the New Cliffhanger Puzzle

[13:19] Elliott Kaelin:
As the main game concludes, Elliott introduces a new cliffhanger puzzle to keep listeners intrigued until the next episode:
"My overly specific friend insists the mars taco he just bought will help him get stronger. I keep asking him what he's talking about and he just keeps saying mars taco knowingly and flexing his guns at him. What's another word for a mars taco that's less inappropriately specific?"

[14:21] Elliott Kaelin:
He admits the complexity: "This is the most confusing one I think we've ever had." Encouraging listeners to ponder the riddle, Elliott ensures continued engagement.

7. Closing Remarks and Credits

[15:14] Devin Tory Bryant:
Producer Devin wraps up the episode with credits, acknowledging the team's contributions and encouraging listeners to follow, subscribe, and review the show.

[15:05] Elliott Kaelin:
Elliott signs off with his signature flair: "reminding you that a mind is a terrible thing to wash."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Elliott Kaelin:
  "[02:37] I think a mathematician would say Sean is right and that we are wrong. So I think that's okay."

• Sean Hayes:
  "[13:05] Nice."
  "[11:58] A piano, a toolbox, and an ear. They all have hammers in them."

• Scotty Icenogle:
  "[13:03] Aren’t these all symbols of luck?"
  "[07:57] Ladybug."

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Insights and Highlights

• Interactive Problem-Solving:
  The collaborative dynamic between Elliott, Sean, and Scotty showcases different thinking styles, making the puzzle-solving process engaging and educational.

• Theme of Luck:
  The recurring motif of luck in the mega clue not only ties the puzzles together but also adds a layer of thematic depth to the episode.

• Humorous Banter:
  Light-hearted exchanges, such as Scotty's joke about his SAT scores and Sean's playful comments, keep the atmosphere fun and relatable.

• Cliffhanger Engagement:
  Introducing a complex new puzzle at the end ensures that listeners remain curious and eager for the next episode, fostering a loyal and interactive audience base.

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Conclusion

Episode 123 of SmartLess Presents ClueLess masterfully blends humor, intellect, and camaraderie. Through a series of well-crafted puzzles and lively discussions, Elliott Kaelin, Sean Hayes, and Scotty Icenogle create an entertaining and mentally stimulating experience. Whether you're a puzzle enthusiast or a casual listener, this episode offers something for everyone, encouraging critical thinking and collaborative problem-solving.

Stay tuned for the next episode, where the new cliffhanger puzzle awaits resolution, promising more fun and challenges in the quest to be faster than Sean Hayes!

Transcript

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[Elliot Kaelin]

Smart.

[Devin Tory Bryant]

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[Elliot Kaelin]

Why did the chicken cross the road? The authorities want you to believe he did it to get to the other side. But what if the chicken was pushed across the road? Did he even make it to the other side at all? Has anyone seen this chicken lately? It's time for somebody to finally get to the bottom of this. But not us. Someone else. This is Clueless.

[Devin Tory Bryant]

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[Sean Hayes]

I'm gonna be honest with you, Elliot. I was so focused on the cliffhanger and I'm trying to solve it, and I think I got it and I still have hiccups.

[Elliot Kaelin]

If you want a private performance that cold open, I'm happy to give you at a later date, but still. Welcome to Smartless Presents Clueless, the puzzle podcast. That's like a no holds barred mixed martial arts battle between you and Sean Hayes, only instead of fighting, you solve puzzles together. I'm your host, Elliott Kaelin. And yes, I did get a haircut. Thank you for noticing. Please join me in welcoming our constant contestant, the man who's got an Emmy, a Tony, and a Scottie, Sean Hayes.

[Sean Hayes]

That's really funny. Hi. Thank you for having me today. This is incredible.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I'm so glad you could make it. It was such my pleasure to have you here today. It's wonderful.

[Sean Hayes]

I mean, as far as a contractual obligation goes, this just feels so great.

[Elliot Kaelin]

This is one of the better ones.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. I love this show. And Scotty, I love this guy. Scotty. Scotty, what is your last name and where does it come from for the audience? Please tell us.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Thank you so much, Sean. It's a pleasure to be here. And he's delaying.

[Elliot Kaelin]

He doesn't want to answer the question.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

No, no, no. I totally want to icin, ogle, isonogle. There's lots of different ways to pronounce it. It's just whatever flows off the tongue easiest, but it's actually Austrian.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Oh, yeah. So you're saying you don't come from a long line of icenoglers?

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Ice snoglers.

[Elliot Kaelin]

No.

[Sean Hayes]

Wait, tell me I still have hiccups.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Wait, hold on. Did you feel that? What? A chill has just descended on the podcast. Ooh, I've got a hoodie. We're being haunted by last episode's Cliffhanger puzzle, and it can't cross over to the other side until we exorcise this podcast with its answer.

[Sean Hayes]

Yes.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You may remember it was a math related riddle that went thusly. If 1 and 1 equals 6 and 1 and 3 equals 8.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin]

What do 1 and 4 equal?

[Sean Hayes]

Okay, ready?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes.

[Sean Hayes]

I hope I'm right. Is it nine?

[Elliot Kaelin]

I'm so sorry. It is not nine.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, shit.

[Elliot Kaelin]

But I want to know what you're thinking.

[Sean Hayes]

Well, one plus one is two, add four. Three plus one add four is eight. Four plus one add four.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I. You know what? I'm gonna. That's not our correct answer, but I'm gonna give it to you as an correct answer. An answer that could be correct.

[Sean Hayes]

An. An correct answer, and correct answer.

[Elliot Kaelin]

The correct answer in this case is seven. Because you're adding up the numbers of letters. There's six letters in one and one. Cause there's three letters in each of them. There's eight letters in one and three, and there's seven letters in one and four. But, you know, you took it mathematically, and I think a mathematician would say sean is right and that we are wrong. So I think that's okay.

[Sean Hayes]

No, that's good. That's good.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

That's good stuff, Elliot.

[Sean Hayes]

I wish I got that. Scotty, were you even close?

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Not even remotely close. I have to admit, I was not close on that one. I was going a different route. But you know what? That's just a little peek into how I did on my SATs.

[Elliot Kaelin]

All right, I'm glad we could see that cliffhanger puzzle. Now that your answer has been revealed, the power of Clueless compels you. Begone.

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Oh, I love that.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I think we did a good job with that.

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[Elliot Kaelin]

Listeners at home, did you get the answer to the Cliffhanger puzzle? If not, you should expect to be haunted by that same puzzle until you figured it out. As for the rest of us, we'll be moving on to today's main puzzle. Let me just see what it is. Ooh. That's the sound of me being excited for today's game. And also me saying the game's acronym. We're playing Odd one Out.

[Sean Hayes]

Nice Odd One.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Which one's the Odd one Out? Get out.

[Sean Hayes]

That's my favorite. I think that's my favorite one.

[Elliot Kaelin]

There's so many good ones.

[Sean Hayes]

I know there's so many good ones.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah. All right. Today's game of Odd one Out involves a rock and roll dream scenario. That's right, the complete classic lineup of Guns N Roses is reuniting for the first time in decades to play one night only at the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas. It's the day of the soundcheck, and the band members are rolling up to the hotel one by one. But they each brought more items than the hotel staff can handle. And they need to leave something at the door. Each one of them needs to leave one Item. Tell each GnR member which of the four items they brought needs to be left behind so that the other three things belong in the same category together. For example, if someone brought a hammer, a wrench, a wine glass, and a screwdriver, which one should they leave behind?

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, a wine glass. Sorry, they're all tools. Yeah, sorry. Like me.

[Elliot Kaelin]

The wine glass. Yeah, yeah. I would never say that, because the other three items are on the category of tools. Although technically, a wine glass is a tool for having a good time.

[Sean Hayes]

Nice.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Sean, Scotty, have you reached your limit or are you ready to play this game of odd one out?

[Devin Tory Bryant]

Oh.

[Sean Hayes]

So excited.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Let's take a breathalyzer. Let's go.

[Sean Hayes]

Ah, nice.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Odd one. So the first band member, Izzy, brought cream, a goat, a cottage, and a clover. Which of these things does not match the category of the others?

[Sean Hayes]

Clover. Here's why. The goat cheese, cottage cheese, cream cheese. There's no clover. There's no clover cheese.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Clover cheese.

[Elliot Kaelin]

There's no clover cheese. Exactly. They got that one fast. That was great. It's the only one that is not a kind of cheese. Let's go to number two. Steven brought a tiger, a ladybug, a candy cane, and a referee. Which of those is the odd one out? Tiger, ladybug, candy cane, referee. It sounds like I'm trying to figure out the phrase that will awaken you from your hypnotic conditioning.

[Sean Hayes]

I mean, I think of like Candyland. The logo's a candy cane. I don't know if that. But no. A referee. I think in black and white. Stripes, stripes, candy cane. It's a stripes. A ladybug has tigress stripes and ladybug has dots. So ladybug.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You got it right?

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Ladybug.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Exactly.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Wow, look at this.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Scotty, you got it. You got just barely behind, but still on the board. Question number three. Duff brought a horseshoe, a jazz record, a rocket and the sun. Okay, horseshoe, horseshoe, jazz record, rocket, sun. Which of those does not fit the same category as the others?

[Sean Hayes]

Let's see.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Horseshoe, rocket, horseshoe.

[Sean Hayes]

U shaped jazz records around rocket.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Oh, horseshoe.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Why?

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Because it's U shaped. Others are round.

[Sean Hayes]

Well, a rocket's not round.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Well, a rocket is like a Tube. It's round. It's a round tube.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You know what? I'm gonna give it to you. Horseshoe is the right answer you got not exactly the right reason. The horseshoe is the only one that is not in the name of an NBA team. There's the Utah Jazz, the Houston Rockets, and the Phoenix Suns.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

What?

[Sean Hayes]

You said jazz record.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Well, you can't say he brought a jazz with him, right? What is that? That would just confuse you. Number four, Slash brought a penny, an eel, a guitar, and a toothbrush.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Oh, God.

[Elliot Kaelin]

A penny, an eel, a guitar, and a toothbrush. Which of those doesn't fit the category as the others?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so a penny is round and it's copper. Oh, you can use penny for electricity. You can use eel electric, and you can have an electric guitar.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Electric guitar.

[Sean Hayes]

No, they all can be. Oh, Penny, Penny, Penny. Because all the others are electric.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You got it. That's exactly right. Penny. The rest. Electric guitar. Electric heel. Ambush.

[Sean Hayes]

Penny is copper, and that is a source for electricity.

[Elliot Kaelin]

If you can enough of them together, I think maybe you can do something. But you'd never say, like, hand me that electric penny.

[Sean Hayes]

No, you would not. This is correct.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

You would not.

[Elliot Kaelin]

This is a great name for a band, though. If you want to see a band called Electric Penny, you know you're in for a good time.

[Sean Hayes]

They open for Nickelback. Go ahead.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question five. The final member of Guns N Roses, Axel brought a piano, a wishbone, a toolbox, and an ear. Seems gross, but rock stars do that kind of stuff. Just carry ears around. A piano, a wishbone, a toolbox, and an ear. Which one is the odd one out and why?

[Sean Hayes]

Okay, so piano's black and white. It's got 88 keys. There's an upright. It's grand. Toolbox is a something you store stuff in. Here is wax. Earth wax. Wait, uh. Oh, he's got something.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

I'm going to say wishbone, because the other three have hammers.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Exactly right. Scotty, you did it. Scotty, you did it. A piano, a toolbox, and an ear. They all have hammers in them. The ear has that little bone called the hammer in it. So the wishbone.

[Sean Hayes]

That's right, Scotty.

[Elliot Kaelin]

How about that, Scotty? Fantastic. That was great. Get out. But we're not done yet. Like all great reunion concerts, this one has a mega clue. Mega clue question. So let's pick up our Guns n Roses story again with the band after the concert. It went great. Such a smash success, the guys decided to hit the hotel's casino. Unfortunately, they all lost thousands of dollars for today's mega clue. Why did they all go on a losing streak after the concert? And here's a hint. It's related to the items they left behind in our game. Would you like me to remind you what those items are?

[Sean Hayes]

Please.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Those items were a clover, a ladybug, a horseshoe, a penny, and a wishbone.

[Sean Hayes]

Can you say word?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Ladybug, wishbone, a clover, a ladybug, a horseshoe, a penny, and a wishbone. Why did they go on a big losing streak without those items?

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Aren't these all symbols of luck?

[Elliot Kaelin]

You got it, Scotty.

[Sean Hayes]

Nice.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Exactly right. They left their luckiest items behind. Four leaf clover. If a ladybug lands on you, horseshoe, lucky penny, wishbone. Great job. Great job, you two.

[Sean Hayes]

Nice. That was really good.

[Elliot Kaelin]

So well together. Have you guys met? You should get to know each other better.

[Scotty Eisenogle]

Big fan, big fan, Big fan, Big fan, Big fan.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Listeners at home, did you do as well as Sean and Scotty? If not, that's okay. You were probably just still distracted by the cliffhanger puzzle ghost that is still haunting your living room. And speaking of cliffhanger puzzles, here comes today's cliffhanger puzzle. I think that was my best segue ever in my life. I think that was the best segue I ever had. The cliffhanger puzzle is a little extra riddle to help you while away the hours until the next episode. And you've just got to while away those hours or they start to pile up. You just cannot. You gotta while em away. You gotta get rid of them. Today's puzzle is an especially puzzling one, and it goes thusly. My overly specific friend insists the mars taco he just bought will help him get stronger. I keep asking him what he's talking about and he just keeps saying mars taco knowingly and flexing his guns at him. What's another word for a mars taco that's less inappropriately specific?

[Sean Hayes]

Didn't understand a word.

[Elliot Kaelin]

This is the most confusing one I think we've ever had. So there's two parts. Puzzle. Figuring out what it is and then. And then the figuring out how to do it. And then the answer.

[Sean Hayes]

Right? But what is he? He's eating a mars taco because why? It's going to make him what he.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Says it's gonna make him help him get stronger. So what's a less inappropriately specific word from Mars taco? You'll have until next episode to think about it because that's all the clueless we have for you this episode. Join us next time for more puzzle fun. Or join us last time if you're experiencing life backwards, which happens sometimes. Before we go, I'd like to thank Scotty Eisenogle for being a true friend. I'd like to thank Sean Hayes for being the perfect frenemy and and I'd like to thank you, the audience, for being such a friendly audience or fraudience. I'll think of a better name for it later.

[Sean Hayes]

Very good.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Until then, this has been Smartless Presents Clueless. And I've been your host, Elliot Kaelin, reminding you that a mind is a terrible thing to wash. Nice.

[Devin Tory Bryant]

Clueless. You have been listening to Smartless presents Clueless, a Smartless Media production in association with SiriusXM. Your host is Elliot Kaelin, who also writes our scripts. Your constant contestant is Sean Hayes, who is five'eleven Your producer, editor and engineer is Devin Tory Bryant, who is me. I also write all the music and sound effects assistant engineer Kyle McGraw. Today's puzzles were written by Josh Richmond. Talent producer is Anne Harris. Additional script material by Associate producer Matty McCann. Social media producer Tommy Galgano. Executive producers are Elliot Kaelin, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett and Jason Bateman. Executive producers for Smartless Media are Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminski. Remember to follow, subscribe, rate and review the show. It really helps. That's all for now. We will see you again for more smart Bless me.

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