149 - Odd One Out (w/ Jon Gabrus)

Summary

SmartLess Presents ClueLess: Episode 149 - Odd One Out (w/ Jon Gabrus) Summary

Episode Overview

In Episode 149 of SmartLess Presents ClueLess, titled "Odd One Out," host Elliott Kaelin teams up with returning contestant Sean Hayes and guest Jon Gabrus to tackle a series of intriguing puzzles. This biweekly, bite-sized episode delves into brainteasers and conundrums designed to challenge listeners' quick-thinking abilities, all while fostering engaging and humorous interactions among the hosts. Released on May 1, 2025, the episode centers around the "Odd One Out" game and introduces a cliffhanger puzzle, maintaining the show's signature blend of wit and intellectual stimulation.

Introduction and Setup

The episode kicks off with Elliott Kaelin's quirky weather forecast joke, setting a playful tone (00:14). Sean Hayes humorously embraces the "clueless" theme, creating an immediate rapport with the audience (00:30). Elliott introduces Sean Hayes and Jon Gabrus, highlighting Jon's comedic prowess and his involvement with the "Stayin' Alive" podcast (00:43).

Sponsor Messages and Ads

Throughout the early minutes, the episode includes brief advertisements for Firehouse Subs, Rula mental health services, and Spectrum Business internet solutions. These segments are seamlessly integrated without disrupting the flow of the main content.

ClueLess Puzzle Recap

Elliott revisits the cliffhanger puzzle from the previous episode, emphasizing its importance and the stakes involved (01:22). The puzzle challenges listeners to identify what is unusual about a given list of words, a task that Sean and Jon attempt to solve collaboratively.

Solving the Cliffhanger Puzzle

The hosts analyze the words: Revive, Banana, Grammar, Voodoo, Assess, Potato, Dresser, and Uneven. Sean initially suggests that the words contain double consonants (03:01), but Elliott steers the conversation towards a more nuanced linguistic pattern. After some back-and-forth, they deduce that each word can be modified by moving the first letter to the end, resulting in a palindrome-like structure (04:01). This teamwork highlights the collaborative and analytical spirit of the show.

Main Game: Odd One Out

Transitioning to the main segment, Elliott introduces "Odd One Out," a game where the original members of Huey Lewis and the News must identify which item among a group doesn't fit (07:32). The premise involves selecting dinner items from each band member that breach the restaurant's peculiar possession policy.

1. First Round: Sean Hopper's Items

   • Items: Tape, Dynamite, Sushi, Fabric
   • Solution: Dynamite is the odd one out because, unlike tape, sushi, and fabric (which come in rolls), dynamite comes in a different form (09:23).
   • Notable Quote: Sean humorously remarks, "Oh, that's wild" after identifying the correct answer (04:46).

2. Second Round: Bill Gibson's Items

   • Items: Treasure Chest, Headphones, Cigarette Butt, Photograph
   • Solution: Photograph is the odd one out as it doesn't contain a body part in its name, unlike the others (10:30).
   • Notable Quote: John guesses correctly, "Photograph doesn't fit" (10:24).

3. Third Round: Johnny Cola's Items

   • Items: Top Hat, Thimble, Balloon, Iron
   • Solution: Balloon is the odd one out since the other items are original Monopoly playing pieces (11:05).
   • Notable Quote: Elliott confirms, "It's the balloon for exactly that reason" (11:21).

4. Fourth Round: Mario Cipollina's Items

   • Items: Pool Noodle, Dollar Bill, Free Beer, Massive Star
   • Solution: Massive Star is the odd one out because it lacks double letters present in the other items (12:14).
   • Notable Quote: John humorously reflects on his memory skills: "I'm not that much of a pothead that I was able to remember the first game from six minutes ago" (12:24).

5. Fifth Round: Frontman Huey Lewis's Items

   • Items: Cell Phone, Door Hinge, Matchbook, Coffee Grinder
   • Solution: Cell Phone is identified as the odd one out since the other items reference dating apps (Doorhinge, Matchbook, Coffee Grinder), whereas "Cell" lacks such a connection (13:59).
   • Notable Quote: Elliott acknowledges the unconventional reasoning: "The answer is actually cell phone. The others all include the names of dating apps in them" (14:04).

Cliffhanger Puzzle Introduction

As the "Odd One Out" game concludes, Elliott presents the next cliffhanger puzzle, labeled "Samesies." Listeners are challenged to identify the common thread among three seemingly unrelated items: beans, milk, and guts (16:20). The puzzle encourages delayed gratification, with the solution revealed in the next episode.

Conclusion and Closing Remarks

Elliott wraps up the episode with heartfelt thanks to Jon Gabrus and Sean Hayes for their contributions, coupled with humorous farewells and callbacks to popular culture references (16:15). The production team receives acknowledgment, ensuring listeners are aware of the collaborative effort behind the scenes. Finally, Elliott reminds listeners to engage with the show by following, subscribing, and reviewing, fostering a sense of community and anticipation for future episodes.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Elliott Kaelin (00:30): "Sean Hayes: Nice. Clueless. I'm clueless."
• Sean Hayes (00:59): "This is so fun. I'm really excited."
• John Gabris (10:24): "Photograph doesn't fit. Cause the other three have body parts in their names."
• Sean Hayes (13:59): "Yeah, no, just yet. Just yet."
• Elliott Kaelin (16:15): "The cliffhanger puzzle is like your own personal experiment in delayed gratification."

Insights and Discussions

• Collaborative Problem-Solving: The interaction between Sean and Jon showcases effective teamwork and diverse thinking styles, essential for tackling complex puzzles.
• Humor and Engagement: The hosts' banter and humorous remarks keep the content lively and entertaining, making intellectual challenges accessible and enjoyable.
• Listener Involvement: By presenting cliffhanger puzzles and encouraging listeners to solve them before the next episode, the show fosters active engagement and a sense of community among its audience.

Conclusion

Episode 149 of SmartLess Presents ClueLess successfully blends intellectual stimulation with humor and camaraderie. Through the "Odd One Out" game and the introduction of the "Samesies" cliffhanger puzzle, listeners are both entertained and encouraged to think critically. Elliott Kaelin, Sean Hayes, and Jon Gabrus deliver a memorable episode that epitomizes the show's commitment to making puzzles engaging and fun.

Timestamp Reference Guide

• [00:00 - 00:14]: Firehouse Subs Advertisement
• [00:14 - 00:43]: Introduction and Weather Forecast
• [00:43 - 01:22]: Host and Guest Introduction
• [01:22 - 02:35]: Recap of Previous Cliffhanger Puzzle
• [02:35 - 07:18]: Solving the Cliffhanger Puzzle
• [07:18 - 16:41]: Main Game - Odd One Out
• [16:41 - 19:18]: Cliffhanger Puzzle Introduction and Conclusion
• [19:18 - End]: Closing Advertisements and Farewells

Transcript

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[Elliot Kaelin]

Smart less meow. Before we begin today's episode, I have a weather forecast. Today there is a 100% chance of weather. This is Clueless.

[Sean Hayes]

Nice. Clueless. I'm clueless. Yes. I am very clueless. Oh, the song is song over. Song is over.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Oh, the extended mix. I love it. Welcome to Smartless presents. Clueless, the puzzle podcast that never asks you to water its plants when it's out of town. I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, and I'll have what she's having. Pause for laughter. Pause for laughter. Now please welcome the man who hasn't aged a day since this morning, Sean Hayes.

[Sean Hayes]

Nice. Hey, everybody. Elliot, such a pleasure to be back. This is so fun. I'm really excited. So thank you again, guys. One of the funniest people, my new funny friend who I love, John Gabris, is here with us today, and he's part of half of the Staying Alive podcast for Smartless Media. Brilliant actor, brilliant comedian, funniest all get out. I can't say the F word. I could, but. Please. Jon, hello. Thank you for being here.

[John Gabris]

Are you kidding? Thank you for having me. This is thrilling. Also, I love. I love getting an intro that you feel the need to live up to. So I'm gonna. I'm gonna be so.

[Sean Hayes]

I know.

[John Gabris]

Gosh darn funny.

[Sean Hayes]

It's like showing somebody a video. Like, check out this video. And then it just turns, like, you know, the. Like, reloading or. What is it called? Buffering.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Buffering. Buffering.

[John Gabris]

DMing with someone. When I get over there, I'm gonna give you the best sex of your life. And then you're like, okay, hold on. This doesn't always happen. It's warm in here.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, that's good. My intention going in was clear. There were factors. John Gabris, thank you for joining us from the Stayin Alive podcast. It's an apt podcast title, because I don't want to scare anyone, but last episode's cliffhanger puzzle has risen from the grave, by which I mean the end of the previous episode. Now, you have to solve it now before it bites us and turns us into puzzles. That's how zombie puzzles work is when they bite you, they turn you into a puzzle. The stakes could not be higher, so please listen quickly.

[John Gabris]

That's why you have, like, a Bead of sweat going down your head and you're going, no, I'm fine. I wasn't bit. The one guy in the movie, he's like, I'm okay.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Crossword boxes start appearing on his sleeve, and he hit his arm and he pulls his sleeve down. Nothing. There's nothing there.

[Sean Hayes]

Exactly.

[Elliot Kaelin]

So listen to this one. The cliffhanger was a word question that went thusly. What's unusual about the following words? Revive, Banana. Grammar. Voodoo. Assess. Potato. Dresser. Uneven. There is something unusual which can be done to all these words which we know backwards and forwards.

[Sean Hayes]

They all have double consonants. So, like two N's, two O. Like two O's in voodoo, two S's in accent, or two C's in Xs and two. Oh, wait, do they have more than two vowels? It seems like they have the same two consonants.

[John Gabris]

No, because revive only has two E's.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Unseen. Dresser.

[John Gabris]

Oh, and two V's.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Dresser. Yeah. They all have. They all have two sets of the same consonants.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Not exactly.

[Sean Hayes]

No, that is correct.

[John Gabris]

They all have a double of content.

[Elliot Kaelin]

They often have two sets of the same letter. But there's something else about these. There's something you can do to them, something you do to each of them. But I like that you're thinking about letters and the arrangement of said letters. What can you do to all of these words, which, again, I'll remind you, we know backwards and forwards. That is unusual that you can't do to most words.

[Sean Hayes]

It's unusually. Are they anagrams of another word?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Sort of.

[John Gabris]

Are they close to. You're saying backwards and forwards, which makes me want to guess palindrome in some way, but I'm trying to figure out, is there, like. If you remove the first letter, do they become palindromes?

[Sean Hayes]

No, no, wait, you can. I got it. I got it. This is very unusual for all these words that you can take the first letter of each word and put it on the N and it spells it the same backwards.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes, exactly. Very good. What beautif. Beautiful teamwork that was. So it was like you're trading off links and the chain of logic, but that's exactly right. Each of those words, you can take the first letter, put it on the back, and then when you turn it around, it's the same word again.

[Sean Hayes]

Levi.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Move the R to the end and it is now evivir. Banana. You put the B at the end, it's anana. B. Well, I can't pronounce them, but the.

[Sean Hayes]

Mirror of it is the same.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, exactly. Yes.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, that's wild.

[John Gabris]

They're Missy Misdemeanor Elliot rules. You can flip it and reverse it.

[Sean Hayes]

Reverse it.

[John Gabris]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

How do you know that song? Now I'm worried.

[John Gabris]

I'm 43, baby. I know.

[Sean Hayes]

That is so good.

[John Gabris]

I was grinding to that song in eighth grade.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh my God. I was grinding that to my 50th birthday.

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[Elliot Kaelin]

Listeners, did you get the answer to that cliffhanger puzzle? If not, I'm sorry if you got bitten and are now a puzzle. But hey, maybe we'll solve you someday. Maybe you're even. Today's main game, it's called Odd One Out.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh yeah, that's good.

[John Gabris]

Odd One out. Which One's the odd one out.

[Sean Hayes]

Get out. Yes.

[Elliot Kaelin]

In today's Odd One out, the original members of Huey Lewis and the News are all getting together to eat dinner and catch up about the old times when it was hip to be square, as opposed to now, when it's hip to be hip, it's no longer hip to be square, it's square to be square. And they're dealing with that now over dinner. Unfortunately, this restaurant that they chose has a very strange policy about the number of personal possessions you can bring to the table. And it turns out each band member was carrying one too many things and had to leave one item that did not fit the same category as the other items at the coat check. So I will tell you, for each member of this group, the items they brought with them. You tell me the one in each group that does not fit in the same category as the others, that's the odd one out. Would you like.

[John Gabris]

I love a game where you don't really. I don't really know what's going on. I wrote down Huey Lewis in the News, and I'm realizing, like, that might not be a super important part of the game.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Not necessarily.

[John Gabris]

You never know.

[Sean Hayes]

Also, I love the effort, because I really do. Elliot's a genius, and I love all the buildup, but really, you just need to know which one doesn't belong.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes. This one doesn't fit.

[John Gabris]

Basically, it's kind of like that word problem from fourth grade where you're like, forget oranges and Bruno and the market. It's seven plus five. Yeah, give me that.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Really, all the information is right there in the title, Odd One Out. But we decided, you know, hey, why not bring it to Life? Bring it to Life.

[Sean Hayes]

I love it. I love Huey Lou.

[John Gabris]

What's a game show without patter? Let's get on.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Exactly, exactly. It's just questions. One. Question number one. Let's begin the game. Sean Hopper brought these things with him, okay? Tape, dynamite, sushi, and fabric. Which item is the odd one out and why? Tape, dynamite, sushi, and fabric.

[Sean Hayes]

Okay?

[Elliot Kaelin]

And set aside how strange it is to bring sushi with you to a restaurant, okay?

[John Gabris]

Set aside the legal ramifications of bringing dynamite into a restaurant.

[Sean Hayes]

I know what it is. I know what it is. It's dynamite. Because the others are rolls.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes, very good. Others all come in rolls. Tape, dynamite, sushi, fabric. Very good. A roll of dynamite. I mean, you can make, I guess, like a belt out of dynamite, but that's not the same thing. You know, I don't.

[John Gabris]

I don't catch myself saying, I've. I've said, give me a roll of tape before. I definitely said, I'll take a sushi roll, But I've never once in my life said, hey, how many fabric rolls do we have over here?

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, you will. You're only 40. What?

[John Gabris]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I got plenty of time. And so Tim Gunn sends me to Mood.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number two. Bill Gibson brought a treasure chest, headphones, a cigarette butt and a photograph.

[Sean Hayes]

Okay, say it again.

[Elliot Kaelin]

A treasure chest, headphones, a cigarette butt and a photograph.

[John Gabris]

Photograph doesn't fit. Cause the other three have body parts in their names.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Very good. Exactly right.

[Sean Hayes]

Nice. I didn't even finish writing him down. All right, good.

[John Gabris]

Me neither. I just had to get one for my ego. I was dying. I was like, sean's game, let him play, but do not get zero.

[Sean Hayes]

Wait, so, treasure chest, headphones, cigarette butt, and what else?

[Elliot Kaelin]

And a photograph.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, a photograph. Oh, that's interesting.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Does not have a body part in it. Question number three. Johnny Cola brought a top hat, a thimble, a balloon and an iron.

[Sean Hayes]

Yes, I know.

[John Gabris]

What?

[Sean Hayes]

I already know. I already know.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, what is it, Sean?

[Sean Hayes]

No, go ahead, Johnny. You know what it is.

[John Gabris]

No, just do not pass go. Don't collect $200.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You get it?

[Sean Hayes]

They're all Monopoly little tokens except for the one. What is it? Except for the balloon. Balloon. Except for the balloon.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I've got the answer. I've got the answer. It's all this. Except. What was the answer again?

[John Gabris]

I know it. But you say the answer.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, yeah, but you're right. It was the balloon for exactly that reason. The others are all original playing pieces from Monopoly. Question number four. We're doing great. You guys are doing fantastic.

[John Gabris]

I'm learning all the news names. This is exciting.

[Elliot Kaelin]

There will be a quiz later about the other members of the news and. Yeah, but who they are. Mario Cipollina brought these items with him. A pool noodle, a dollar bill, free beer, and a massive star. And I'll give you a hint. You guys have been looking for a puzzle that involves this answer since the beginning of the game.

[Sean Hayes]

Massive Star. Ok, really? It's not an.

[John Gabris]

It's Massive Star.

[Sean Hayes]

Because why is.

[Elliot Kaelin]

And why is it Massive Star?

[John Gabris]

It's the only one without two sets of, like, pool noodles, Double O, double O. Dollar bill, free beers, double E, double E. Oh, nice.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Exactly right. Since the beginning of the episode, you guys have wanted to have an answer that involves double letters. And it's like you put that out into the universe and the Universe answered. And there's nothing beautiful about that.

[John Gabris]

I'm not that much of a pothead that I was able to remember the first game from six minutes ago. I was luckily able to. I still have that in my mind.

[Elliot Kaelin]

And finally, for this game, question number five. Frontman Huey Lewis of Huey Lewis and the News. He brought a cell phone, a door hinge, a matchbook, and a coffee grinder. Again, that's a cell phone, a door hinge, a matchbook, and a coffee grinder. Which object does not belong and why?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, cell phone.

[John Gabris]

I want to say. Again, I'm so caught up in the word of it all and not necessarily the categories of it all. But is door hinge a compound word? Because I think the first three are compound words. And coffee grinder is two words.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Door hinge is two words. You're right to be thinking about the words aspect of it, but it's not a matter of compounds or not compounds. But I like the way your brain is thinking. It's thinking very puzzily.

[Sean Hayes]

So cell phone is two words. Door hinge is two words. Matchbook is one word. Coffee grinder is two words. Right?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes.

[Sean Hayes]

Okay. Ooh.

[John Gabris]

Okay.

[Elliot Kaelin]

But as mentioned, that's not what it's about.

[Sean Hayes]

No, no, for sure.

[John Gabris]

So now, coffee grinder is two syllables each. The rest are each one syllable of each half of the word.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, yeah.

[John Gabris]

For each half of the clue.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Cell phone, door hinge, matchbook, coffee grinder. Yeah, what about that?

[Elliot Kaelin]

You know what? That's not the answer we're looking for, but let's play by George Stephanopoulos rules. It works. So I'll give it to you.

[Sean Hayes]

But it is Coffee grinder.

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, the answer is actually. The answer is actually cell phone.

[John Gabris]

Okay, wait, really? I don't know George Stephanopoulos well, but does he just cheat?

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, no, no. But your explanation worked for that answer, so I couldn't deny it to you. The answer is cell phone. The others all include the names of dating apps in them. Doorhinge, Matchbook, and Coffee Grinder. Whereas I don't think there's a dating app with cell in it just yet.

[Sean Hayes]

No, no, just yet. Just yet. Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I said to myself, I can't come up with an argument why they're wrong. So I have to say they're right, even though, technically they are wrong. Five, one out. Wait. The evening isn't over for either Hughie or his news. They've still got their post dinner mega clue question. Mega clue question. When the guys finished dinner and went to claim their items at the Coat check. It turned out the room was a mess and their things were nowhere to be found. Why? The items are the clue to the answer to that question. What do. And these are the items that you removed from each round. What do dynamite, a photograph, a balloon, a massive star, and a cell phone have in common?

[John Gabris]

Dynamite, photograph, balloon.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Balloon, massive star, and cell phone.

[Sean Hayes]

Are these all the things from Pixar's movie Up?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Oh, interesting. There's a balloon in that one. There's a photograph, and all humans are made out of cells. You don't see a star, and there's no dynam, and the movie is dynamite. So think about what is something that each of these things can do.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Gabris]

Oh, okay.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, you blow them up. Yeah, they're blown up.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Exactly right. They're all things that can blow up. That's why the coat check was a mess. It exploded. I don't know who to blame, but maybe the guy who brought the dynamite. That's my guess.

[John Gabris]

Yeah, I think it explodes. Someone's like, well, you're the one who brought a balloon. You're like, I think the dynamite guy's in more trouble.

[Elliot Kaelin]

No one knows exactly what caused this. Perhaps it was the cell phone. Well, listeners, did you do as well as Sean and John? If so, I'd like to tip my hat to you, but I can't because the rabbit will fall out of it. So why don't I just pull up my sleeve where I've hidden today's cliffhanger puzzle?

[Sean Hayes]

Nice. There it is.

[Elliot Kaelin]

The cliffhanger puzzle is like your own personal experiment in delayed gratification. We're gonna start this puzzle now. You'll find out the answer next episode. This cliffhanger is a Samesies. Samesies is our series of cliffhanger puzzles involving samesies. I'm gonna give you three seemingly unrelated things. You tell me what secret aspect makes them samesies. Ready?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin]

The three things are, number one, beans, as in, pass me that can of beans. Number two, milk, as in the stuff that comes out of cows, cashews, coconuts, other things that start with C. And finally, number three, guts, as in the punchline to why didn't the skeleton cross the road? Because he didn't have any.

[Sean Hayes]

The guts.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, yeah, beans.

[Sean Hayes]

All right, so beans, milk, and guts. And what are we supposed to do with these?

[Elliot Kaelin]

What makes them samesies? What's the thing that connects them?

[Sean Hayes]

Okay, got it.

[John Gabris]

We have a full week or another day. How long is in between episodes?

[Elliot Kaelin]

What's your perception of time? Because the faster you move, the slower time goes. So if you can get to like the speed of light, you'll have as much time as you need to figure this one out. Yeah.

[John Gabris]

All right, good. I'll have to just, you know, mentat myself here a little bit, let my eyes roll back in my head and I'll solve it all.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Well, this episode has a beginning, it had a middle. Let's go for the trifecta and give it an end. But first, I'd like to thank John Gabrius for never giving us up or letting us down. Thank you. And I'd also like to thank Sean Hayes for never running around and deserting us. And I'd like to thank you, the listener, for never making us cry, never saying goodbye, never telling a lie, and never hurting us. Except for the saying goodbye part, which we're doing right now. I don't want to be too forward, but perhaps though, we could Smartless presents Clueless Again another time. Let me know. I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin and I'll be outside your window with a boombox until you say yes.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, my God. The longest goodbye ever.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I was like, I'm going to do that song. And then I was like, this song is long and it's not even a Huey Lewis in the news song.

[Production Team]

Clueless, you have been listening to Smartless presents Clueless, a Smartless Media production in association with SiriusXM. Your host is Elliot Kaelin, who also writes our scripts. Your constant contestant is Sean Hayes, who is five'eleven Your producer, editor and engineer is Devin Tory Bryant, who is me. I also write all the music and sound effects. Assistant engineer, Kyle McGraw. Today's puzzles were written by Jason Reich and Kevin Lehman. Talent producer is Anne Harris. Associate producer Matty McCann. Social media producer, Tommy Galgano. Executive producers are Elliot Kaelin, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett and Jason Bateman. Executive producers for Smartless Media are Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminski. Remember to follow, subscribe, rate and review the show. It really helps. That's all for now. We will see you again for more.

[Elliot Kaelin]

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