
On this episode of ClueLess, host Elliott Kalan invites married podcasters Naomi Ekperigin and Andy Beckerman (co-hosts of Couples Therapy) to get organized with another round of The Sort ‘Em Consortium! As you may recall, in this game Elliott gives you all the answers first, and then gives you a series of clues where each answer relates to one clue only. This time: colors! And before that, a game about directions, and cities with the same names! New episodes every Monday. Puzzles in this episode are by Brock Mahan. Script by Elliott Kalan. Music and sound effects by Devon Torrey Bryant. Buy Elliott’s book Joke Farming: How To Write Comedy And Other Nonsense HERE. Buy Devon’s album Blame It On My Zodiac HERE or stream it anywhere you listen to records.
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Folks. I don't want to brag, but I know all about the ships of the land cars. I know how many wheels they have. More than you might think. How many people you need to properly drive? 1 fewer than previously thought. And I know that the famous boy band the Backstreet Boys got their name from the fact that they will not drive on highways. Now, that's technically not true, but that made up fact reminds me of today's opening question. If the boys leave their concert headed north, but then make six left turns, three right turns, a U turn and three more lefts, which direction are they headed? You'll have to listen to find out. This is Clueless. Clueless. Clueless. I'm Clueless. Welcome to Smartless Presents Clueless, the world's greatest puzzle podcast called Smartless Presents Clueless. I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, author of the new book Joke how to Write Comedy and Other Nonsense on bookstore shelves now. And I also am the winner of the host Clueless sweepstakes. I'm so excited about it. I can't believe I won. Joining us today once again are the best guests we've ever had. If our previous guests aren't listening, Right now, comedy stars Naomi Ekberrigan and Andy Beckerman. Thank you so much for joining us.
Andy Beckerman
Thank you so much for having me.
Elliot Kaelin
It's my pleasure. I noticed that your husband has become a Coyote, I guess, which is why you'll be the one answering the questions today. Thank you for being here. Now, I wouldn't be doing my due diligence if I didn't ask if you knew the answer to today's opening question. So the Backstreet Boys, they leave their concert headed north. They make six left turns, three right turns, a U turn, and three more left turns. Which direction are they now headed? In?
Andy Beckerman
The way I checked out, after six left turns, is is. You said it. And, you know, the second time I'm hearing it, I have no idea. Couldn't tell you if I was actually driving a car either. So I am really leaving this up to Andy Beckerman, who can attest that my sense of direction is atrocious.
Naomi Ekberrigan
If I've done the math correctly, the answer should be my favorite Rob Reiner movie, North.
Elliot Kaelin
You are correct with the answer. Your taste in Rob Reiner movies is questionable, but you're right. The answer is North.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Better one.
Elliot Kaelin
This is Spinal Tap. That the answer?
Naomi Ekberrigan
Wait, he did that? I thought he only did North.
Elliot Kaelin
No, no, you only thought he did the one movie. That makes sense. That makes sense. The answer is north. Because it's always a trick question. Always. Listeners at home, did you get the answer? If so, give yourself a pat on the back, or if you're a puppy dog, a rub on the belly. Wow. Andy's showing me he did the math. Wow. Amazing. Now we're gonna quit playing games with my heart. But that doesn't mean we're done playing games with the Backstreet Boys. Apparently, they're headed to the rest of the stops on their tour. All of their tour stops share a name with another notable city. Can you figure out which city they're traveling to next? For example, I would tell you this clue. This city in northwest Texas is home to a replica Eiffel Tower adorned with a cowboy hat. What city is it? What city?
Andy Beckerman
Paris, Texas.
Elliot Kaelin
Exactly. The answer is Paris, Texas, because the Backstreeters are huge fans of the films of Wimwenders. And let me stop right there to ask you, how many other puzzle podcasts give you references to boy bands and German new wave filmmakers? None. Just this one. So you already got it. Each city will share its name with another city in the world. Are you ready to play the game?
Naomi Ekberrigan
Yes.
Elliot Kaelin
I'm clueless. Okay, you can find a great pyramid in this Tennessee city, But instead of a cursed mummy, it contains a bass pro shop. Also cursed.
Naomi Ekberrigan
I want to say Cairo.
Andy Beckerman
Cairo.
Naomi Ekberrigan
I can't think of any other city in. In Egypt at the moment.
Andy Beckerman
I think it's wrong. But I also can't think of another.
Elliot Kaelin
City because I was going to say. You're the gatekeeper on this one, Naomi. Are you going to allow that question?
Andy Beckerman
I don't support it.
Elliot Kaelin
Allow it.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Stargate. Stargate, Tennessee.
Elliot Kaelin
No. The answer is Memphis, Tennessee. Memphis, Tennessee. Memphis is also a city in Egypt. Yes. Or was an ancient city.
Naomi Ekberrigan
So do you know what else? Denial is also a river in Egypt, Elliot.
Elliot Kaelin
Okay, it's not. It is. I didn't say it wasn't. I just said it's not just that. Yeah. Question number two. This one you get. The home of the University of Georgia may not have Socrates or Necropolis, but it does have Michael Stipe and Rem. What city is it?
Naomi Ekberrigan
And elephant six. Athens, baby.
Elliot Kaelin
You got that right. It's Athens, Georgia. Question number three. This Oregon locale was almost named after Boston, Massachusetts, until its founder won a coin toss to name it for his hometown in Maine. What is this Oregon city?
Andy Beckerman
Oh, I'm going to say Portland.
Elliot Kaelin
Very good. It is Portland, Oregon, named after Portland, Maine.
Andy Beckerman
That's crazy. Actually, they did that.
Elliot Kaelin
I mean, they're also both port places, you know, so it wasn't. It wasn't like too. Not like Memphis, where they're like, yeah, this place reminds me of ancient Egypt. Sure. The next city is in Florida. Shares its name with a Russian metropolis that used to be called Leningrad. But Florida city shares its name with a Russian metropolis that used to be called Leningrad.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Stalin. Crab.
Elliot Kaelin
Oh, yes.
Andy Beckerman
St. Petersburg.
Elliot Kaelin
Very good. St. Petersburg, Florida. It was St. Petersburg, then it was Leningrad, then it was St. Petersburg, Florida. That's St. Petersburg. Again, question number five. This city in South Carolina shares a name with the capital of West Virginia. And with a dance I had to learn during my Jay Gatsby phase. You remember it when I dressed like. Like I was Jay Gatsby all the time.
Andy Beckerman
Okay, your Jay Gatsby phase.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Yes.
Andy Beckerman
The Charleston.
Elliot Kaelin
Very good. Charleston, South Carolina. You did great. You got four out of five questions with that one. And maybe Cairo, Tennessee is a place.
Andy Beckerman
Don't even say it again. The way I could crumble into a ball. And D.
Elliot Kaelin
Don'T crumble into a ball yet because you've still got a mega clue. Mega clue question. So the Backstreet Boys need our help one final time. They really should hire a Road manager. Instead of outsourcing this sort of thing to a podcast, they want to make sure that when they hit the road, they only travel from the west to the east. So we want to put their tour stops in order from west to east. And those stops are again, Memphis, Tennessee, Athens, Georgia, Portland, Oregon, St. Petersburg, Florida, and Charleston, South Carolina. Can you put an order from west to east Memphis?
Naomi Ekberrigan
Athens, Portland, Charleston, and St. Petersburg. And St. Petersburg.
Andy Beckerman
Oh, I thought you were saying the order. I said what? I was like, girl, what you're asking.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Okay, we're going west to east. Obviously, we're starting with St. Petersburg.
Andy Beckerman
That's why I was so confused. I was so scared after Cairo that I was like, we'll never come back from this.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Stalingrad. Oh, God.
Andy Beckerman
Okay, so west to East Portland.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Yes, obviously.
Andy Beckerman
And then Memphis.
Naomi Ekberrigan
It's Memphis or Athens.
Andy Beckerman
I know it's mad. This is where I get confused. Like Portland, Memphis, Athens, Charleston, St. Petersburg or St. Petersburg?
Naomi Ekberrigan
Charleston, I think, because. Because South Carolina is over farther than I think.
Elliot Kaelin
I'll give it to you. I'm giving it to you for the teamwork. Portland, Memphis, Athens, St. Petersburg, and then Charleston. You have both provided for each other what each was lacking, and that's the true meaning of a marriage. And so I'm very proud of both of you for that one.
Andy Beckerman
We did so much.
Naomi Ekberrigan
I'll say this. We ordered those five from west to east in our vows. So it was just like I just had to recall from a couple years ago.
Elliot Kaelin
I see. Yeah.
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Listeners, are you Ready for more U.S. geography action? If so, I apologize. Our next game has none of that. It's called Sordum Consortium.
Devin Tory Bryant
Well, it's the Sorghum Sorghum Sorghum Consortium.
Elliot Kaelin
Put em in order.
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Won't you take my advice? Sorghum sortum 0, 1, 2, 3, 4.
Andy Beckerman
And 5 get along there.
Elliot Kaelin
That's a great song. This is the game where I give you the answers ahead of time and you have to figure out what questions they go to. And the answers are this. Usually in sort of consortium, they're numbers. This time they're going to be colors. Write down these answers. Red, blue, orange, yellow, green and purple. Now, I'm going to go through a series of clues and I want you to match each of those answers to one clue and only one clue. So you are sorting them by color? I guess usually it's by number.
Naomi Ekberrigan
We have to match. I've never heard of a game show. I've never heard of a game show. Do that where you have to like, then say the question.
Elliot Kaelin
Well, no, I'm gonna say the why I oughta. Andy is of course referring to the game show Jeopardy, which I don't know if he knows is a sore spot for me since during my one contested appearance on it, I. I came in second. I did not win that game. So.
Naomi Ekberrigan
No, I'm sorry. Have you ever been on Emily Heller's podcast?
Elliot Kaelin
No, I haven't. You should. I should do that. Is that the. Is that the I lost on Jeopardy?
Andy Beckerman
No, it is. What is a Jeopardy. Podcast?
Elliot Kaelin
Oh, okay. There you go.
Andy Beckerman
Honestly, we shouldn't be promoting other things. If it's not couples therapy, I don't want to hear about it.
Elliot Kaelin
No, no. We should only be only be promoting your podcast and my book Joke Farming, how to Write Comedy and other Nonsense on bookstore shelves now. So I'm going to give you clues and I want you to say which color matches that clue. You cannot use any of the colors twice. Okay. You can only use them once each time.
Andy Beckerman
Okay.
Devin Tory Bryant
Sordum. Sordum.
Elliot Kaelin
And so here are the clues. Okay. The traditional color of Islam, the most common color on national flags. A dye that could only be produced by sea snails until the 1800s. A color used by the Maritime Industry to make objects at sea stand out, a word that does not exist in ancient Greek and a weakness for at least one DC superhero. So I want you to attach the colors. And again, the colors are red, blue, orange, yellow, green, and purple. Can you attach which colors to which clues? Which ones jump at you right away?
Naomi Ekberrigan
Well, you know, I am the most intelligent because the first one I went to was DC superhero. And I thought, so here. But here's. Here's where we get into. You know, is it green for kryptonite for Superman, or is it. Isn't there something in the spectrum that Green Lantern can't deal with? I can't remember. I'm not a. Not a huge D.C. head.
Elliot Kaelin
Well, you are halfway right, because we are looking for the Green Lantern one. That is the color that we're looking for, not an object. So there is a color that the Green Lanterns, until recently, I think they faked that flaw in the ring eventually. There's a color that traditionally Green Lanterns cannot handle. What color is it?
Andy Beckerman
Is it yellow?
Naomi Ekberrigan
Is it yellow because they're coward? Because they can't abide being a coward?
Elliot Kaelin
It is yellow, but not for that reason. So you know that yellow goes to number six, a weakness for. For the Green Lantern. Which other ones? So what. What other clues do you think might go with what other colors?
Andy Beckerman
Okay, so we're gonna say the color on flags is red.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes.
Andy Beckerman
People love that.
Elliot Kaelin
They love the color red. That's why it's also on so many cereal boxes.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Yeah, because it angers up. It angers up all the people that live there. They see their flag and they're like, ah, we gotta fight.
Elliot Kaelin
Well, a lot of people don't realize that national flags were originally only used for bull fighting. So that's why a lot of them have red on them. Yes.
Andy Beckerman
That's very smart. That's very smart. Accurate. Accurate. Elliot, Caitlyn. No questions. Follow up. To follow up. And then you said dye that up until recently could only be made by snails.
Elliot Kaelin
Until the 1800s, this color only produced by sea snails. The dye of this color, I will say also. In addition, here's an extra clue that's one of the reasons that this dye was limited to a very specific sort of person in many European cultures up until the blue.
Naomi Ekberrigan
It's got to be blue royalty, right? Oh, purple, Duh. Purple royalty.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes. Purple. Thank you.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Sorry, I was thinking. Hold on. I was thinking blue bloods and. No, I'm not talking about. I'm not talking about the hit CBS cop show filmed in Greenpoint oh, my God, you're right.
Elliot Kaelin
Purple was a dye that could only be produced by sea snails. The late 1800s. It was very hard to make. Okay, so you've only got three clues left. Those clues are the traditional color of Islam used by the maritime industry to make objects at sea stand out, and a word that doesn't exist in ancient Greek.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Oh, well, obviously, if you want something to stand out in the sea, it's gonna be blue. So that. That's the obvious answer to the maritime. So orange. I mean, that's. Is that. Aren't buoys orange?
Elliot Kaelin
Yes, orange. Orange, the classic color of safety.
Andy Beckerman
I said that is. That was a color that you wouldn't have in ancient whatever. You had said. Greece am stroking out. I don't know.
Naomi Ekberrigan
No, no, because I was thinking, look, this, Naomi, I'm 100% with you, my dear, because in my brain, it went, well, orange doesn't rhyme with anything. So that's probably the Greek answer. There's no connection. That. That makes absolutely no sense.
Elliot Kaelin
I will also mention also because that orange was not the word for the color orange in Greek, you know, that's. They weren't so true. So maybe the orange rhymes.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Yes, it's probably something with the Astos or something. Green. So Islam. I want to say green and. No Greek. Blue.
Elliot Kaelin
You are correct. Green is the traditional color of Islam. And blue. That's the one I didn't know. That was a surprise to me. But by order of elimination, it must be blue. So you did great. You got them all right. You thought them all free. You sorted them for this consortium. Now, we've been through all the colors of the rainbow except one. The color Mega Clue. Mega clue question. For today's Mega Clue, we'll be sorting those same answers not as facts, but as opinions in 2015. YouGov.com I don't know if it's YouGov.com or whatever. Anyway, in 2015, the YouGov organization asked Americans what their favorite color is. Can you rank these six colors from most to least popular?
Naomi Ekberrigan
So, Naomi, what's. What's the most hated color? Do you think people don't like green? Right. We're destroying the environment.
Andy Beckerman
I know. I think people. If you're going to say your favorite, I feel like orange is at the bottom. No one's checking for orange.
Naomi Ekberrigan
I'm with you. I think blue.
Elliot Kaelin
What do we say?
Naomi Ekberrigan
Blue on top?
Elliot Kaelin
Yeah.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Blue on top, orange on bottom. So if people don't like orange, they're not going to like yellow. Yellow's Gonna go above orange and then red above that.
Andy Beckerman
I put red actually after blue.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Okay.
Andy Beckerman
Okay. I think I'm gonna put patriots, so I think. Okay. It would go in order of most to least would be blue, red, purple, green, yellow, orange.
Elliot Kaelin
Is that the order that you would also like to sign off on, Andy?
Naomi Ekberrigan
Hey. Hey, Elliot. There's one thing they teach you at marriage school. It's, it's. You don't, you don't go against your wife.
Elliot Kaelin
I'm so glad you went to that Staten island marriage school. You are so close. You're almost right. You said blue, red, purple, green, yellow, orange. The answer is blue, green, purple, red, yellow, orange. You swapped red and green. Unfortunately, people like green more than red.
Andy Beckerman
I think interesting.
Elliot Kaelin
Blue, green, purple. I think those are more soothing colors. I think that's why I'm confused. I mean, blue is objectively the best color.
Andy Beckerman
It's a great. We all do that.
Elliot Kaelin
We all love blue.
Andy Beckerman
Yeah.
Elliot Kaelin
And red, yellow, orange. Those are those colors. They get people, they get people at best excited, at worst, aggravated blue.
Naomi Ekberrigan
I don't know why. I don't know why, but I'm really hungry for a bowl of Lucky charms right now. I can't figure it out.
Elliot Kaelin
Blue. For anyone interested, the numbers. Blue was the runaway favorite. 31% of Americans said they liked blue. Orange and yellow are super popular at 3% and 4%, that they actually weren't even the bottom colors in the survey. Black and pink were both more popular colors than orange and yellow. And we didn't even. They just weren't part of the game. That's the only reason they didn't get brought up here.
Naomi Ekberrigan
Is that a K pop band, black.
Elliot Kaelin
And pink or orange and yellow? They both are probably. So. You did great in that game. You got. I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna give you a 3/4 for the mega clue. You did great, listeners. Did you do as well as our guests? If not, that's okay. Winning is overrated, just like being rich, beautiful, or clean. Unfortunately, that's all the clueless we have for you today. Unfortunately, that's all the clueless we have for you. We just failed our health inspection and the city is forcing us to close for one week. But before we power wash the grease off the walk in freezer, I'd like to thank our guests Andy Beckerman and Naomi Ekparigan for being such great sports. In fact, if I had to list my favorite sports, it would go baseball, cricket, Naomi and Andy. Those are my top three sports. And of course I'd like to thank you, the listener, for sharing this time with us and also sharing your fries with us. I was so hungry. Thank you for letting me have a few. We'll be back next week with more Smart Loose presents Clueless. Until then, I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, author once again of Joke Farming, how to Write Comedy and Other Nonsense on store shelves now. And I'll never forget where I was on this day. Just the same place I always am. Clueless.
Devin Tory Bryant
You have been listening to Smartless presents Clueless, a Smartless Media production in association with Sirius xm. Your host is Elliot Kaelin, who also writes our scripts. Today's contestants were Naomi Ekparigan and Andy Beckerman. Check out their show Couples Therapy anywhere you get your podcasts. Your producer, editor and engineer is Devin Tory Bryant, who is me. I also write all the music and sound effects. Today's puzzles were by Josh Richmond and Matt Pack. Talent producer is Anne Harris, Associate Producer Matty McCann, Social Media Producer Tommy Galgano. Executive producers are Elliot Kaelin, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett and Jason Bateman. Executive producers for Smartless Media are Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminski. Remember to follow, subscribe, rate and review the show. It really helps. That's all for now. We will see you again for more.
Andy Beckerman
Smart bless me.
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Zoey
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Episode 208 – The Sort ‘Em Consortium (w/ Naomi Ekperigin & Andy Beckerman)
Release Date: December 29, 2025
Host: Elliot Kalan
Guests: Naomi Ekperigin & Andy Beckerman
In this fast-paced, puzzle-packed episode, Elliot Kalan invites comedians (and married couple) Naomi Ekperigin and Andy Beckerman to tackle a series of geography- and color-themed brainteasers. With characteristic wit and playful banter, the trio sorts through city-name puns and color trivia, sprinkling in cultural references—from Rob Reiner films to the color weaknesses of superheroes. Listeners are challenged to outpace this week’s contestant, Sean Hayes, and test their knowledge on U.S. geography, historical cities, and surprising color facts.
Contestants identify U.S. cities that share names with famous international locales.
Referencing trick answers and contestant confusion, e.g.,
Approach to Reasoning: The guests reason aloud, often questioning “what makes a color special?” and drawing on pop culture and history.
Puzzle logic meets pop culture:
Comic banter on marriage and teamwork:
Meta humor and callbacks:
Self-aware game show riffs:
This episode of ClueLess is a joyful sprint through geographical trivia and clever color puzzles, with thoughtful back-and-forth and sharp wordplay among Elliot, Naomi, and Andy. Listeners are treated not only to tricky questions ("Which direction are the Backstreet Boys now heading? North!") and giggle-worthy geography (Paris, Texas; Memphis, Tennessee), but also learn fun facts about city names, color symbolism, and pop culture quirks, such as superhero weaknesses—"Yellow is the Green Lantern's weakness"—and why some colors are more beloved than others.
The episode wraps up with the hosts celebrating each other, recapping correct answers, and reminding everyone that winning is, as always, overrated—just like being rich, beautiful, or clean.
If you enjoy:
…then this is a must-listen (or, thanks to this summary, a must-read!).