213 - Odd Throuples/Coupled Up (w/ Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero)

Summary

SmartLess Presents ClueLess

Episode 213: Odd Throuples/Coupled Up
Guests: Moshe Kasher & Natasha Leggero
Date: February 2, 2026
Host: Elliott Kalan

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Overview

In this bite-sized, puzzle-packed episode, Emmy-winning writer Elliott Kalan welcomes comedy power couple Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero for a themed slate of brainteasers—perfectly timed for Valentine’s Day. The puzzles revolve around wordplay, celebrity mash-ups, and couple-based clues, testing Moshe and Natasha’s wit, competitive banter, and teamwork. Along the way, listeners get hilarious asides about marriage dynamics, surprising celebrity anecdotes, and a reaffirmation that, even when a game feels confusing, humor and teamwork carry the day.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Introduction & Guest Banter

[01:20–02:25]

• Elliott introduces Moshe and Natasha, highlighting their real-life marriage and comedy chops.
• The guests joke about Valentine’s Day, Lincoln’s Birthday, and their own connection to Lincoln via Illinois.
• Moshe facetiously claims he supported the North in the Civil War, setting the tone for playful historical asides.

  “At the time, it was a controversial stand, but I think history has shown that you were right to do that.” — Elliott ([02:06])

2. About the Endless Honeymoon Podcast

[02:25–02:53]

• Natasha explains their podcast’s premise: relationship advice and comedic “roasting.”
• “We roast people’s love lives. We try to help them...Essentially mocking the love of other people.” — Moshe ([02:47])
• Elliott gushes about their show, segues into a conversation about games and puzzles.

3. Puzzles and Family Dynamics

[03:07–04:28]

• Natasha admits to being “more on the clueless side of things.”
• Moshe details their daughter’s love of riddles, and the family’s divide between pretending enjoyment vs. honest reactions.

  “In our family, it’s about shutting down the illusion that we’re charmed.” — Moshe ([03:43])

• Natasha claims to prefer Zen koans and hates puns: “Something that I could, like, think about for a few years, and then finally, you know, the sound of one hand clapping...” ([03:58])
• Elliott jokes that their daughter should bring Zen koans to the dinner table.

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Segment 1: Opening Puzzle – Name Blend Riddle

[04:44–07:05]

Riddle:

“Can you name an iconic basketball player and an iconic pop star whose names, when you put one in front of the other, reveal the name of a legendary folk singer?”

• Natasha and Moshe reason through basketball and pop star names.
• Moshe gets the answer:
  LeBron James + Taylor Swift = James Taylor
• Elliott and Natasha discuss Carole King’s musical connection to James Taylor.

Memorable Exchange:

“LeBron James, Taylor Swift, the two greatest pop culture icons of our era.” — Moshe ([06:24])

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Segment 2: Game One – Odd Throuples

[08:10–14:37]

Premise:

Combine last name of one celeb with first name of another to form a new celebrity’s name.

Sample Rounds:

• George (Wham) + Pollock = Michael Jackson ([09:08])

  • Natasha instantly nails it. Moshe quips about “Zen co-op” from earlier.
  • Moshe jokes about competition in their marriage.

    “All a competition.” ([09:30])

• Jake (YouTuber/boxer) + Simon (reality judge) = Paul Simon

  • Natasha takes a while, Moshe gives the clue that they had dinner with Paul Simon and Bill Maher.
  • Shared anecdote: Paul Simon’s humble reflection on writing “The Sound of Silence.”

    “I remember when I wrote it, I thought, huh, that’s better than the songs I usually write.” — Paul Simon (relayed by Moshe, [10:53])

• Man (surrealist) + Charles (natural selection theorist) = Ray Charles

  • Natasha stumbles through Charles Darwin before landing on Ray Charles.
  • Moshe jokes about Natasha’s Ray Charles knowledge being limited to soda commercials.

• Diana (princess) + Ross (presidential hopeful) = Diana Ross

  • Moshe and Natasha quickly solve it.

• Celine (Titanic singer) + Warwick (Willow actor) = Dionne Warwick

  • “We’re fudging the spelling here,” Elliott clarifies ([13:52]).
  • Moshe jokes, “Because I got the right one, baby.”

Bonus Question:
In 1985, all these answer celebs participated in USA for Africa’s “We Are the World.”

• Natasha recommends the documentary, highlighting Bob Dylan’s awkwardness and Stevie Wonder’s guidance.

  “Bob Dylan...does an impression of Stevie Wonder doing an impression of Bob Dylan.” — Natasha ([15:08])

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Segment 3: Main Game – Coupled Up

[16:51–23:38]

Premise:

Guess two-word phrases where the last letter of the first word is the first letter of the second word (e.g., “snow White”).

Highlights:

• Moshe initially unsure about the format, then catches on fast.
• Natasha excels at solving clues, often not quite following the letter-link logic.
• Moshe jokes, “At this point, I’m officially self conscious about how difficult this is for me.”

Questions and Answers:

1. “Person with seven tiny roommates”: Snow White ([18:56])
2. “Small glass vessel for an experiment”: Test Tube ([19:23])
3. “Five out of five is usually the best this can be”: Star Rating (Moshe/ Natasha say Star Review, which is accepted) ([20:09])
4. “Electronic substitute for a percussionist”: Drum Machine ([20:15])
5. “Extreme close up, wide shot...”: Camera Angles ([20:44])
6. “Someone with excellent vision”: Eagle Eye ([21:19])
7. “Batman’s nickname”: Dark Knight ([21:33])
8. “Words that begin children’s rhyme or a 911 call”: (Missed) Answer: Hello Operator ([23:10])

Moshe jokes:

“You got seven out of eight questions. Now you’ve made it through the gauntlet of life as a couple. I apologize. Life ends now.” ([23:32])

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Segment 4: Mega Clue & Key Relationship Lesson

[23:47–25:20]

Mechanics:

Unscramble the shared linking letters from each answer to find a secret to a successful relationship:

• Letters: W, T, R, M, A, E, K, O
• Answer: TEAMWORK

Natasha swiftly solves it:

“I know what it is…Teamwork.” — Natasha ([25:19]) “Some people build their marriages on competition. Some people build it on teamwork. We’ll see who wins in the end.” — Elliott ([25:20])

Moshe jokes their family motto is:

“Teamwork makes the dream work. And communism is a good idea in theory.” ([25:40])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Family Puzzle Dynamics:

  “We’ve heard this one before. Come to the table with something better next time.”—Moshe ([03:43])

• On Competition:

  “The game of our marriage is...it’s all a competition.”—Moshe ([09:30])

• On Folk Musicians and Time:

  “Folk singers...Joni Mitchell, Carole King.”—Natasha ([06:14]) “And they don’t make folk singers anymore.”—Natasha ([06:11])

• On Marital Teamwork:

  “Teamwork makes the dream work.”—Moshe ([25:40])

• On Letting the Answers Come to You:

  “You’re like Paul Simon. The answers are just coming to you.”—Elliott ([21:45])

• On Nostalgic Commercials:

  “You got the right one, baby. Uh huh.”—Elliott & Moshe ([12:25])

• On Relationship Advice and Competitiveness:

  “Today, Elliot, you joined our team, and I think you can agree it felt pretty good.”—Moshe ([26:48])

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Key Timestamps for Segments

• Guest Banter & Puzzle Philosophy: [01:20–04:44]
• Opening Music/Name Riddle: [04:44–07:05]
• Odd Throuples Game: [08:10–15:39]
• We Are the World trivia & doc anecdote: [14:37–15:39]
• Coupled Up Game: [16:51–23:38]
• Mega Clue & Teamwork Lesson: [23:47–25:20]
• End-of-Show Recap & Promotion: [25:32–27:24]

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Conclusion

This episode blends fast-paced wordplay with authentic relationship banter. Listeners learn that the world of puzzles—like marriage—is best navigated with humor, acceptance of each other’s strengths and weaknesses, and a strong dose of “teamwork.” Amid jokes about family dynamics, pop culture history, and famous folk singers, Natasha and Moshe’s comedic chemistry shines, making even obscure word games feel warm and welcoming.

For more laughs and relationship wisdom (or at least the mockery of it), check out Moshe and Natasha’s “Endless Honeymoon Podcast.”

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Listener’s Takeaway:
Even if you don’t ace every riddle, there’s a place for you at the table—as long as you bring a little teamwork (and maybe a Zen koan).

Transcript

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[Elliot Kaelin]

Smart Less Medium. Sometimes things are hidden inside of other things. Like the other day I heard a noise from my dishwasher. Turns out there was a squirrel living in there. I let him stay. He was doing a great job washing the dishes. But it's not only squirrels that can hide in things and not only dishwashers that can be hidden in names can hide inside of other names. For instance, can you tell me the name of an iconic basketball player and the name of an iconic pop star, which, when put together, reveal the name of an iconic folk singer. You'll find out the answer pretty soon after I say this is Clueless.

[Clueless Intro Voice]

Clueless.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Clueless.

[Natasha Leggero]

I'm clueless.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Welcome to Smartless Presents. Clueless, the puzzle podcast that helps old ladies across the street, even if that wasn't the direction they were going in. I I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, Strange visitor from another planet. It's February and that means two things. Valentine's Day and Lincoln's birthday. This week's guests fit the theme of one of those days. They're two comedy superstars who are also an actual real life married couple. No, I'm not talking about Winnie the Pooh and Piglet. I mean, Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero. Thank you so much for joining us, Moshe and Natasha.

[Natasha Leggero]

Thank you.

[Moshe Kasher]

Actually, Natasha has an Abraham Lincoln connection as well. She's from Illinois.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I gotta hear it. Oh, that's right. Lincoln's Land of Lincoln.

[Natasha Leggero]

I forgot about that.

[Moshe Kasher]

Actually connected to Lincoln in another way, which is that I supported the north in the Civil War.

[Elliot Kaelin]

At the time, it was a controversial stand, but I think history has shown that you were right to do that. Thank you so much for your steadfast support for the north and the Union side. Moshe. Natasha. So thank you so much for joining us today. I can't wait to take you through some games. But first, I believe you also have a podcast that you would like to tell us about and that I desperately want to hear about.

[Natasha Leggero]

Our podcast is called the Endless Honeymoon Podcast. We give relationship advice. We are not licensed professionals.

[Moshe Kasher]

We don't play games on that podcast, if you know what I mean, Elliot. It's serious stuff.

[Natasha Leggero]

We roast people's love lives. We try to help them. Sometimes we have people call in with their deepest, darkest secrets, and we'll have other comedians guesting on the show and.

[Moshe Kasher]

Essentially mocking the love of other people. But we would love for everybody to come join the mockery.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That sounds wonderful. What is your experience with puzzles before we begin? Puzzles, games, riddles. How do you feel about them? Are they a part of your daily life? Is it something you choose to avoid? In which case, I apologize for the game that we're about to play. How do you feel about them?

[Natasha Leggero]

I would say that I'm more on the clueless side of things. Don't excel in puzzles.

[Moshe Kasher]

Well, we have a daughter that loves puzzles and riddles and is obsessed with telling riddles that everybody at the dinner table already knows because we've gone over them ad infinitum, but she still delivers them as if we've never heard them before.

[Elliot Kaelin]

And do you pretend that you don't know the answer, or do you just dismiss them? You go, yeah, it's a candle. I know it's a candle. Or do you pretend you don't know?

[Natasha Leggero]

I pretend I don't know. And Moshe and his family, they like to be, like, up. We already know this one. Let's move on.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yeah, we, like, in our family, it's about shutting down the illusion that we're charmed. It's like, no, no, no. We've heard this one before. Come to the table with something better next time.

[Natasha Leggero]

I was gonna say, I can't. I can get down with a co on.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Oh, okay.

[Natasha Leggero]

That's kind of more my speed. Something that I could, like, think about for a few years, and then finally, you know, the sound of one hand clapping those type of, like, Zen coons. I find those sort of interesting. I hate puns, and I'm bad at riddles. I can't spell.

[Moshe Kasher]

This is very.

[Natasha Leggero]

No, I can spell. I'm actually a good speller.

[Moshe Kasher]

This is very Natasha Leggero coded right here. Feel about games and puzzles. I love Zen coons. Is that what you're asking?

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's. That's exactly what I wanted to know. And I feel like we have a new strategy for your daughter, which is to come to the table with a Zen Cohen. And even if no matter how many times your family has heard it, there's not going to have the answer.

[Moshe Kasher]

So because time is essentially an illusion, as is human Connection as is life itself.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Well, on that stirring and optimistic note, I'd like to move on to our opening question. Moshe. Natasha, do you have an answer to our opening question? I will repeat it for you. Can you name an iconic basketball player and an iconic pop star whose names, when you put them together, one in front of the other, reveal the name of a legendary folk singer. Do you know the answer? Feel free to talk it out amongst yourselves.

[Moshe Kasher]

This is easy. Magic Gaga.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You're right, Benny.

[Moshe Kasher]

Magic Gaga.

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[Elliot Kaelin]

The legendary folk singer. Magic Gaga. There was, like, a baby wizard folk singer. Yeah. Yeah.

[Natasha Leggero]

Okay. I'm thinking simple names.

[Moshe Kasher]

Okay.

[Natasha Leggero]

I know two. Basketball. You said basketball.

[Elliot Kaelin]

A basketball player and a pop star. When you put one of their names in front of the other ones, it reveals the name of folk singer. Yeah.

[Moshe Kasher]

To be honest, a real difficult challenge for Natasha would be, can you name one famous basketball player?

[Natasha Leggero]

Larry Bird.

[Moshe Kasher]

Very good, Natasha. You did it.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, Michael Jordan.

[Moshe Kasher]

Okay, Michael, Let's. Let's keep Michael and a famous pop star. Jackson. Michael Jackson.

[Natasha Leggero]

No, no, it has to be.

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, we're looking for. So I'm gonna give you a little more information. It'll be the last name of the basketball player will go together with the first name of the pop star to create the name of a folk singer. And it is a modern contemporary basketball player. So not as far back as Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson or Larry.

[Natasha Leggero]

And they don't make folk singers anymore.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Folk singers.

[Natasha Leggero]

Joni Mitchell, Carole King.

[Moshe Kasher]

Honey, I got it.

[Natasha Leggero]

What?

[Moshe Kasher]

It's. I'm done. It's all good.

[Natasha Leggero]

Who is Bob Dylan?

[Moshe Kasher]

James Taylor, baby.

[Elliot Kaelin]

How did you get there?

[Moshe Kasher]

Well, LeBron James, Taylor Swift, the two greatest pop culture icons of our era.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You got it.

[Moshe Kasher]

To create James Taylor, to do James.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Taylor, you were almost. Natasha, I assumed that when you mentioned Carole King, you were getting. You were going to get to the fact that I saw Carole King and James Taylor perform in concert together once, and that was. You were eventually going to get to James Taylor that way. So that was a good.

[Natasha Leggero]

I could have gotten to James Taylor from Carole King. That's true.

[Elliot Kaelin]

So you're exactly right. It is. LeBron James and Taylor Swift make James Taylor Taylor. This riddle would work Even better if LeBron James and Taylor Swift were James Taylor's parents. But unfortunately, that's not the world we live in. We don't live in a perfect world. That's not how it worked out.

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[Elliot Kaelin]

Listeners, did you get the answer? If not, that's okay. You are still deserving of love. Probably. I mean, I don't know you, but I know you're deserving of this first game. It's called Odd Throuples.

[Clueless Intro Voice]

Now you take two famous people and.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You add a third.

[Clueless Intro Voice]

Now you say it all together and it sounds absurd.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's odd Thruffles. This show, as you may have guessed by now, is basically a music delivery system. But very short songs on very specific subjects. All right, this game is very similar to our opening question. It's pretty much exactly the same as what we just did, only more so. I'm going to give you clues to celebrity names whose names again combine to make a third name. The last name of one and the first name of another combine to make a third name. And I want you to tell me that third name. Are you ready?

[Moshe Kasher]

Yes, we are ready.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Okay, so this first clue, George, who is one half of Wham plus action painter Pollock.

[Natasha Leggero]

Michael Jackson.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes, Michael Jackson. Very good. So, Moshe, you had the right answer earlier to the wrong question. So there was.

[Moshe Kasher]

Isn't that in and of itself a Zen co op?

[Natasha Leggero]

And also I would like to state for the record, I was about to get there.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Oh, yeah, yeah. But it's a team game, so you can. There's no competition in this one. You're working together. A victory for one.

[Moshe Kasher]

You're not familiar, I think, with the dynamics of our marriage. The game of our marriage is. It's all a competition.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I've never seen this before where a cooperative game gets turned into a competitive game by the contestants. But if you want to do it that way, we can do it that way.

[Moshe Kasher]

I just Want to say for the record, I'm about to dunk on Natasha Leggero. LeBron James style.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number two. YouTuber turned boxer Jake. And reality show talent judge cowell.

[Natasha Leggero]

Simon Cowell, YouTube boxer, you probably, hey, honey, go ahead.

[Moshe Kasher]

Sink or swim on your own.

[Natasha Leggero]

I don't know.

[Moshe Kasher]

Boxer wanted to not work as a team.

[Natasha Leggero]

I don't know. Boxer is.

[Moshe Kasher]

It is. I'll give you a hint. We had dinner with him, with Bill Maher once upon a time.

[Natasha Leggero]

I still don't know. Oh, Paul Simon.

[Moshe Kasher]

Paul Simon.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You're right. Paul Simon. You had dinner with Paul Simon and Bill Maher?

[Moshe Kasher]

We had dinner with Paul Simon. And I think this anecdote maybe has been shared before because it feels like a talking point. But we asked him about the Sound of Silence.

[Natasha Leggero]

No, we asked him about writing songs.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yes. And he told us about the Sound of Silence. And he said when he wrote it, he goes, I remember when I wrote it, I thought, huh, that's better than the songs I usually write. That was his whole analysis. Writing one of the great masterpieces of American music. Huh, that's better than songs I usually do.

[Natasha Leggero]

You know what I loved about the anecdote?

[Elliot Kaelin]

I mean, Cecilia's good, but this is better than that. This.

[Moshe Kasher]

I would say it's a little better, but it was.

[Natasha Leggero]

It was interesting because it really did bring home the idea that the music is, like, coming through you. And he was like. He was like an observer. It wasn't pretentious how he said it, but you could just see that, like, oh, when you're really brilliant like this, it's like it's. It's. It's being revealed to you.

[Moshe Kasher]

You're a passenger.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You don't know exactly where it's coming from. Yeah.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah. So I thought that was cool.

[Elliot Kaelin]

But you're exactly right. That was YouTuber turned boxer Jake Paul and reality show talent judge Simon Cowell. I'm so much more impressed. At first, I thought you were saying you had dinner with Jake, Paul and Bill Maher, and I'm like, eh, all right. That's not.

[Moshe Kasher]

Honestly, it tracks.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number three. You're doing great. Surrealist artist man meets natural selection theorist. Darwin, man.

[Natasha Leggero]

Ray Charles. Darwin. Ray Charles.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes, Ray Charles. Ray Charles.

[Moshe Kasher]

It's Ray Charles. Why are you laughing, Ray Charles?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Because Ray Charles.

[Natasha Leggero]

Did you know, Man Ray. I bet you didn't know that.

[Moshe Kasher]

I did know Man Ray.

[Natasha Leggero]

You knew surrealist.

[Moshe Kasher]

I'm just surprised that you have Ray Charles. But no flicker of recognition about soul legend Ray Charles.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, I know who Ray Charles is.

[Moshe Kasher]

I was just Charles. Ray Charles. Ray Charles. Ray Charles.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You're like Ray Charles soda commercials. Yeah. Ray Charles. Yeah, that's what it is.

[Moshe Kasher]

Did he buy the world of coke?

[Elliot Kaelin]

He would sing. You got the right one, baby. Uh huh.

[Moshe Kasher]

That's right.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I don't remember which, so I can never which one.

[Natasha Leggero]

It was two decades of our childhood.

[Moshe Kasher]

That's right. Right. You got the right one, baby.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That was one of those ones where I eventually learned how important he was as a musician. But I was introduced to him as the guy who wanted you to drink a diet Pepsi. Yeah.

[Moshe Kasher]

I believe that actually in the another period writers room, a television program created by and starring my lovely wife in the top three very funny show and her partner Ricky Lino. And I was a writer on the show that I sung that refrain, you got the right one, baby. Uh huh. So many times that they told me I had to stop. And it was not a joke. They weren't joking. They were like enough with the right one, baby. Do you remember that?

[Natasha Leggero]

I do, yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I have that same story. But it's the ba da ba ba ba jingle. And also instead of the writer's room, it's my house. It's where my family lives.

[Moshe Kasher]

The showrunner is your wife.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, exactly. She's like, you know, we gotta just to keep moving, just to keep work going today we need you to stop doing that great work. You're doing great. Question number four. The Princess of Wales from 1981 to 1997 meets former presidential hopeful Perrault, former president Diana Ross. Yes, Diana Ross. You got it. Princess Diana and Ross Perot.

[Natasha Leggero]

I'm kind of good at this.

[Elliot Kaelin]

And finally, last question for this game. Titanic singer Selene plus diminutive willow actor Davis. And we are technically fudging the spelling a little bit here, so don't go.

[Natasha Leggero]

By I don't know Davis. I know Dion well, I know the.

[Moshe Kasher]

Way to San Jose. It's Dionne Warwick. Final answer.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Okay, you got that right. Because I got the right one.

[Moshe Kasher]

Baby, you're fired.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That is Celine Dion and Warwick Davis. Or Warwick Davis, it's probably pronounced in England.

[Natasha Leggero]

I love Dion Warwick.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's how they would say it in England. Yeah. Facts on troubles. Finally, this game ends in a bonus question I'm gonna ask you. In 1985, all of the answers from this game, all the people mentioned in the answers above, came together with about a dozen other top recording artists to form USA for Africa, the supergroup behind what top selling charity single we are the World.

[Moshe Kasher]

Is that how they Say it in England. That's how they say it in England.

[Natasha Leggero]

Which, by the way, I would highly recommend the documentary of the making of this single song. It is freaking awesome. You see Bob Dylan, he can't get it right and like, who sits down and tells him how to do it?

[Moshe Kasher]

No, it's so good.

[Natasha Leggero]

Bob is like so intimidated because he's.

[Moshe Kasher]

Like, it did so awesome to see Bob Dylan with the flop sweats. You know, he's like, I don't know what to do.

[Natasha Leggero]

And then I think it's Stevie Wonder.

[Moshe Kasher]

Stevie Wonder.

[Natasha Leggero]

Down he goes. Just do it like this. We are the world. And then Bob Dylan just does an impression of Stevie Wonder doing an impression of Bob Dylan. And like there are like eight icons who you see, like, have interesting meltdowns you see there. I mean, Cyndi Lauper really is like, like Fran Drescher, you know, like she kind of starts taking over and she's like telling everyone what to do. I just thought it was so.

[Moshe Kasher]

No, it was. It's an amazing documentary. And the thing that comes out of nowhere is Jake Paul. It was cut from the song, but he has a solo.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Really? Wow. Even though he was a baby or not even born yet at the time.

[Moshe Kasher]

Possibly not even born, but once again, it's a Zen Cohen. What is time? It's nothing but a flat circle, I guess.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah. Amazing.

[Natasha Leggero]

Well, we won.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You won the game. You got 100% and the bonus question and you gifted us with, I don't know. I want to see the documentary. But even more than that, Natasha, I want to see your one woman show of the documentary where you're playing all the characters and all the parts. I would love that. That'd be amazing.

[Moshe Kasher]

It's called I am the world with Natasha Legger.

[Natasha Leggero]

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[Elliot Kaelin]

Listeners, did you do as well as Natasha and Moshe? If so, you should feel extremely proud of yourself. And if you didn't do as well as they did, you should still feel proud but just not as proud as if you did as well as they did. But maybe you'll feel better after our main game. It's right here. It's called coupled up. As the show goes on, the songs get longer. It's a beautiful scientific principle that we have going here at clueless. In this game, coupled up, I'm going to ask you to guess some two word phrases that are coupled up by common letters. So similar to the last game, this involves words kind of their relationship with each other in a phrase. But what this means that the last letter of the first word in the phrase is the same as the first letter of the second word in the phrase. So, for example, if the clue was it's happening to us right now, the answer would be real life, which shares an l in the words. The last letter of real and the first letter of life are the same l. So it's like the words are holding hands through the same letter just.

[Moshe Kasher]

For the listeners and like, this isn't me, but let's pretend your listeners completely don't understand what you're saying and want another example. Is there one?

[Elliot Kaelin]

All right, let's come up with another example. You know what? If you were telling your pet something nice, you would say, good dog, good ending in d and dog starting with d, that kind of phrase. So it's just that we want a first word that ends in one letter. The second word starts with the same letter. You'll get it.

[Moshe Kasher]

Okay.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You'll get it.

[Moshe Kasher]

Okay.

[Elliot Kaelin]

It'll make sense eventually. And if you don't, you ace that first game.

[Moshe Kasher]

So at this point, I'm officially self conscious about how difficult this is for me. So I want to just start and get through the segment.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Okay. I think that I appreciate that feeling of emotional resilience that you are willing to take whatever comes your way. You're coupled out. All right? I think you'll pick it up. Clue number one. Person with seven tiny roommates.

[Moshe Kasher]

Snow white.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You got it. It's just snow white. That's it. Snow and white. Snow white.

[Moshe Kasher]

W W H I T E. You got it.

[Elliot Kaelin]

See, you got it.

[Moshe Kasher]

Well, I only got it because I would have gotten it with or without this game. If you said person to seven tiny roommates. If this is what the game is, I think I understand it. Answer the question.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number two. Small glass vessel for an experiment. Small glass vessel for an experiment.

[Natasha Leggero]

Test tube.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yep, you got it. Test tube.

[Moshe Kasher]

You got it.

[Natasha Leggero]

I still don't understand the letter thing, but I just knew the answer.

[Moshe Kasher]

T, E, S, T T U B E. Okay.

[Elliot Kaelin]

But it's okay. Just go by the clues. Just by the clues you're gonna do. Great. Question number three. Five out of five is usually the best this can be. Five out of five is usually the best this can be. This is a harder one. Yeah.

[Moshe Kasher]

This is where you have to actually understand the game. And that's where, as you know, that's our Achilles heel.

[Natasha Leggero]

That's where we tap out.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Well, what would you. Let's say. Let's say you're. I'll paint you a little scenario here. Let's say you have. You've had to go somewhere. You don't want to drive there yourself. You hire someone to drive you using an app.

[Natasha Leggero]

Stars.

[Elliot Kaelin]

And. And what do you give them at the end of the ride? Review.

[Natasha Leggero]

Five star review.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You know what I'm going to pick? I'm going to take star review. What we were looking for was star rating, but star review works great.

[Natasha Leggero]

Thank you.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Number four, Electronic substitute for a percussionist. Electronic substitution drum machine. Yes. Drum machine. Great. Number five, Extreme close up wide shot and bird's eye view are some examples of this.

[Natasha Leggero]

Extreme close up camera angles.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes, camera angles. Great. You're doing great.

[Moshe Kasher]

Natasha knows camera angles if nothing else. I know drum machines from my years in the rave scene and Natasha knows camera angles from her years as a starlet.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yep. And together you can make a music video for like a new wave band. I guess that sounds.

[Moshe Kasher]

We are the world. We are the children.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number six. Someone with excellent vision. Is this someone with excellent vision. You can say they're this.

[Natasha Leggero]

Say it.

[Moshe Kasher]

Eagle eye.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yep, you got it. Eagle eye or eagle eye. Perfect.

[Natasha Leggero]

I've never heard that.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Number seven. Nickname for Batman. What's Batman's nickname?

[Moshe Kasher]

The Dark Knight.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yep. Dark Knight K is the start of night and the end of dark. Question number eight. This is our final question for the round. So you're acing this round. This game you don't even. You barely comprehend. So you're like Paul Simon. The answers are just coming to you.

[Moshe Kasher]

That's better than I usually do.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number eight. Words that might begin a children's playground rhyme or start a 911 call. Words that might begin a children's playground rhyme or start a 911 call.

[Natasha Leggero]

What is your emergency? What do they say? Hello.

[Moshe Kasher]

What is your emergency? Is a beautiful children's playground game. What is your emergency? Heart attack. Diabetes. What is your emergency?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Would you usually call 911 for a diabetes emergency?

[Moshe Kasher]

Listen, you told me this podcast is PG13. The thing that came to my mind, I was like, I Can't say that. So I tried to substitute in something a little bit more innocent and diabetes came to mind. I agree. You don't usually call 911 for that, but.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Okay, you made a good point.

[Moshe Kasher]

You want me to do the original?

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, no, no, I will. No, diabetes is great. Diabetes is great. And you can quote me on that. Diabetes is great, raves. Elliot Kaelin, can you think of what's. What's kind of the kind of classic children's rhyme that girls might do while they kind of like patty cake?

[Moshe Kasher]

Natasha, you love to patty cake.

[Natasha Leggero]

I don't really know any.

[Moshe Kasher]

Not last night, but the night before. Tommy knockers. Tommy knockers knocking at your door. Is that it?

[Natasha Leggero]

I usually outsource the patty cake to the nanny.

[Moshe Kasher]

Nanny cake.

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, I'd like to give up on this one.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yeah, I think we're tapping out.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Okay. The answer is hello operator. Hello operator.

[Moshe Kasher]

Oh, so you're saying I'm having a heart attack. I'm like, I can't breathe. And then the phone rings and the person picks up and go, hello operator.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Hello operator. I'm having a. I could use assistance very badly. Yeah, you're coupled out, but you did great. You got seven out of eight questions. Now you've made it through the gauntlet of life as a couple. I apologize. Life ends now. But now it is time for the real test of your partnership.

[Moshe Kasher]

Hello, operator. Life ends now.

[Elliot Kaelin]

The real test of your partnership. Today's Mega Clue. Muh Mum.

[T-Mobile Advertiser]

Mega clue.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's right. Every main game ends with a mega clue. I want you to take the hand holding letters from each of this game's correct answers and you're going to unscramble them to reveal one of the secrets to a successful relationship. You might want a pen and paper to write down these letters. I'm going to give them to you again. Or it could be a pencil and paper. It doesn't matter to me what you write it down with.

[Moshe Kasher]

That's really cool of you to be so open minded about this.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I feel like we've been tough.

[Moshe Kasher]

You were a real tyrant about hello operator and diabetes tracking the logic of a diabetes call. But about this, you're being really chill. I appreciate it.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, I felt so bad about it. I feel like, you know what? So as a reminder, those letters which were the links between the words and the phrases are W, T, R, M as in maze or man or mailbag, A, E, K and O. To give you those letters again, listeners at home, W, T, R, M, A, E, K and O can you unscramble those letters into one of the secrets to a successful relationship. Hmm. I'll give you a moment. Here's a clue. It is what you have both shown today, despite almost not wanting to, you know, almost deliberately and almost refusing to at the beginning of the show.

[Natasha Leggero]

I know what it is.

[Moshe Kasher]

Natasha knows what it is.

[Natasha Leggero]

Teamwork.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Teamwork. You got that right. It's teamwork. That's right. Some people build their marriages on competition. Some people build it on teamwork. We'll see who wins in the end. Only time will tell.

[Moshe Kasher]

Well, we say in our family, we made up a rhyme to remember this. We say we made this up. Teamwork makes the dream work. We say that.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Oh, wow. Yeah. So that's like what you say in the house, just kind of like a family expression, you know?

[Moshe Kasher]

Yeah, it's like our family, the Leggero cashier family motto is teamwork makes the dream work. And communism is a good idea in theory. That's sort of our thing. That's what we said.

[Elliot Kaelin]

And I mean, it's interesting because those seem to be conflicting ideas in a way. You know, I guess that's a family history.

[Moshe Kasher]

What is a theory if not a dream? You know what I mean?

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's a very good point. A very good point. But you did great. Seven out of eight questions. Correct. And the mega clue listeners at home, did you get the answer? The mega clue answer. If not, don't do anything drastic. Take a deep breath, count to 10, then throw something breakable. You're gonna feel better afterwards. Of course, isn't it always the way? Just when you're getting comfortable with your guests, finally letting your guard down? Maybe you're about to kiss. The episode comes to an end. We're just out of time. Before we go, I'd like to thank Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero for being an unbeatable team on and off the court. By the court, I mean this podcast. And I want you all to remind our listeners about your podcast. Please tell us about it one more time before we go.

[Moshe Kasher]

Well, speaking of teamwork, the thing about a team is there's always room for one more. Today, Elliot, you joined our team, and I think you can agree it felt pretty good. We'd like to invite all your listeners to join our team.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yes, come listen to the Endless Honeymoon podcast. Maybe you have a deep, dark secret you're trying to get off your chest. You can anonymously leave it on our hotline.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yeah, we've got a secrets hotline where people record their deepest, darkest.

[Natasha Leggero]

So 213822. I actually don't know the number, but you know what? Go to our website and you can find it all there. It will all be revealed. Thank you. Elliot, we'd love to have you on.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Oh, I would love to do it. That's. I mean, I'll take you up on that invitation. That sounds great. We'll be back next week with more Smartless Presents Clueless. Until then, I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, reminding you I really don't know what I'm talking about.

[Clueless Intro Voice]

Clueless, you have been listening to Smartless presents Clueless, a Smartless media production in association with Sirius xm. Your host is Elliot Kaelin, who also writes our scripts. Today's guests were Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero. Check out their show the Endless anywhere you get your podcasts. Your producer, editor and engineer is Devin Tory Bryant, who is me. I also write all the music and sound effects. Today's puzzles were written by Br Rock Mahan and Jason Reach. Talent producer is Anne Harris. Associate producer Matty McCann. Social media producer, Tommy Galgano. Executive producers are Elliot Kaelin, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett and Jason Bateman. Executive producers for Smartless Media are Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminsky. Remember to follow, subscribe, rate and review the show. It really helps. That's all for now. We will see you again for.

[Elliot Kaelin]

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