215 - Take A Wild Guess/This Or That (w/ Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero)

Summary

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SmartLess Presents ClueLess

Episode 215 - Take A Wild Guess/This Or That

Guests: Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero
Host: Elliott Kalan
Date: February 16, 2026
Podcast length: ~12 minutes

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Overview

In this lively, bite-sized episode of ClueLess, host Elliott Kalan is joined once again by comedian couple Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero, known for their Endless Honeymoon podcast. The episode’s main theme revolves around playful trivia games—“Take a Wild Guess” and “This or That”—as the trio debates musical talent, DJing legitimacy, the greatest albums of all time, and separates wisdom from Yoda and Yogi Berra. The tone is light, competitive, and packed with banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Musical Upbringing & The Instrument Debate

[02:00–05:27]

• Elliott’s Opener: Kalan muses about his lifelong dream to play piano, leading into the central question, “What percentage of American adults play a musical instrument?”
• Natasha’s Reply: She’s learning piano as an adult and encouraging her daughter, despite waning interest:
  • “I have been learning piano as an adult, and I'm making my daughter learn piano. Neither of us are that interested, but I'm pushing for it.” —Natasha [02:32]
• Moshe’s Controversial Claim: He defends DJing as an instrument, sparking mock outrage:
  • Natasha: “That's not an instrument.” —[03:17]
  • Moshe: “But it's just that it serves the same function in my life as playing a musical instrument.” —[03:25]
  • The debate devolves further:
    • Natasha: “That's like saying scrolling your phone, like, appeals to—" [03:31]
    • Moshe: "She doesn't know anything about it, but thinks it's unworthy." [03:34]
• Statistical Guess: Natasha guesses 15% of Americans play an instrument (“and it’s definitely dwindling” [04:07]), Moshe claims 85% if you include DJing.
• Actual Statistic: Elliot reveals the real answer is 11%, leading Natasha to quip:
  • “Let's factor in cooking. Let's factor in painting, hiking. We should factor that in too.” —Natasha [05:48]

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Game 1: Take a Wild Guess

[07:09–12:50] A competitive game where contestants estimate numerical answers to cultural trivia.

• Round 1: Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper Ranking

  • Q: In Rolling Stone’s 2023 list of the 500 greatest albums, where does Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band land in the top 100?
  • Natasha guesses 7. Moshe says “higher” (i.e., a bigger number).
  • Answer: #24. Natasha’s closer.
    • Natasha: “But it's all of the albums in the world.” [09:15]
    • Moshe, shocked: “24! ... It's almost in the second quarter. I mean, that's crazy...” [09:34]

• Round 2: Beatles’ Representation

  • Q: How many Beatles albums appear on the full list of 500?
  • Moshe: 4; Natasha: Higher.
  • Answer: 9 Beatles albums. [11:23]
  • List includes: Let It Be, Help, A Hard Day’s Night, Meet the Beatles, Rubber Soul, The White Album, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver, and Abbey Road.
  • Reflection:
    • Natasha: “Can you imagine being in a band where everyone's up your ass, everyone thinks you're the best thing that ever..." [11:38]
    • Moshe: "I know. I experienced that as a comedian, but I'm not in a band. It's just me." [11:47]

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Game 2: This or That (Yoda vs. Yogi Berra)

[13:34–18:53] Players guess whether a quote is from Star Wars’ Yoda or baseball legend Yogi Berra.

Notable Questions and Answers:

• “Do or do not. There is no try.”

  • Natasha: “Yogi.”
  • Moshe: “No, Yoda.”
  • Correct: Yoda [14:50]

• “You can observe a lot just by watching.”

  • Correct: Yogi Berra [15:00]

• “If you ask me anything I don't know, I'm not going to answer.”

  • Both: “Yoda.”
  • Correct: Yogi Berra [15:10]

• “You must unlearn what you have learned.”

  • Both: “Yoda.”
  • Correct: Yoda [15:52]

• “If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be.”

  • Both: “Yogi.”
  • Correct: Yogi Berra [17:27]

• “The future ain't what it used to be.”

  • Moshe: “That's Yogi.”
  • Correct: Yogi Berra [18:04]

• Chat about Yoda’s syntax:

  • Moshe: “You can’t do the syntax that they’re famous for. ... Then the folksy, charming English. That’s Yogi.” [17:52–18:04]

• Score: Out of 12, 11 correct.

Banter & Cultural Observations

• Moshe reflects on Star Wars prequels:
  • “I think they are actually good in a way. But... there’s a Full House joke and a Schwing joke that Jar Jar Binks makes...” [16:15]
• The infamous Jar Jar “exqueeze me” fart joke is dissected. [17:02]

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Mega Clue Finale

[19:04–19:56]

• Q: Yoda is about 3 ½ feet shorter than which spiritual leader, whom George Lucas described as “a little version of”?
• Answer: The Dalai Lama.
  • Moshe: “This is the Dalai Lama.” [19:45]
  • Elliott: “...the Dalai Lama is just a big version of Yoda.” [19:49]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

The Instrument Debate:

• Natasha: “Listen, that's not an instrument.” [03:17]
• Moshe: “It serves the same function in my life as playing a musical instrument.” [03:25]
• Natasha: “That's like saying scrolling your phone, like, appeals to—” [03:31]

On Cultural Lists:

• Moshe (on Beatles albums): “I feel kind of foolish that I said four, because... I forgot Let it be. ... These people are nuts. ... It's all gonna be third eye blind and blink 182 albums on this list.” [12:05]

Yoda vs. Yogi

• Moshe (discussing the quotes): “You can’t do the syntax... Then the folksy, charming English. That’s Yogi.” [18:04]

Star Wars Observations:

• Moshe: “I always assumed... the Gungans talked like that. ... No, it’s just Jar Jar. He’s just the Rasta. The regular Gungans just talk normally. It’s just Jar Jar.” [16:44–16:58]
• Moshe, on Jar Jar slang: “A Full House joke. He farts and says, ooh, exqueeze me.” [17:02]

Natasha’s Strong Showing

• Elliott: "You did fantastic on that, Natasha. You ran away with that game. 2 out of 2." [12:46]
• Moshe: "Dominate." [12:50]
• Elliott: "You dominated it." [12:51]

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Showcases/Mentions

• Endless Honeymoon Podcast
  • Moshe plugs their Patreon, mentioning DJ mixes, and a dating profile consultation service.
    • “If you’d like to see the real artistry and musicianship of what it means to be a dj, you can join our Patreon...” —Moshe [20:37]
    • Natasha: “Also ... we will look at your online dating profile and help you figure that out.” [21:10]
  • Friendly marital competition continues about which era’s Afro House music is superior. [21:23–21:31]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Musical Instrument Debate: 02:00–05:27
• Take a Wild Guess Game: 07:09–12:50
• Yoda or Yogi Game: 13:34–18:53
• Star Wars Pop Culture Chat: 16:15–17:16
• Mega Clue: Yoda & Dalai Lama: 19:04–19:56
• Endless Honeymoon Patreon Plug: 20:37–21:38

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Tone & Style

• Fast, witty, and friendly with competitive jabs and playful spousal banter.
• Elliott’s hosting is brisk and gently self-mocking.
• Natasha and Moshe bounce between teasing, debating, and wisecracking, especially on the subject of DJing and the legitimacy of various art forms.

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Summary

This episode features a whirlwind of trivia, playful rivalry, and cultural critiques, enhanced by Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero’s married-couple banter. The debates over “what counts as a musical instrument,” the surprise at the Beatles’ album rankings, and the confusion between Yoda’s and Yogi Berra’s wisdom create a fun, engaging atmosphere. Not only does Natasha clinch a hard-won trivia victory, but listeners also get a taste of the duo’s mutual ribbing and their approach to life, art, and Star Wars.

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Transcript

[Disneyland Announcer]

You won't believe everything I just saw. I went to Disneyland first. I went to Mickey Mouse Clubhouse live. And I danced with Goofy at night. I saw this parade. Everything was glowing. Sorcerer Mickey was there. And Lightning McQueen. Oh, and guess what? Bluey and Bingo are coming for real life.

[Disneyland Resort Promo Voice]

Make memories that last a lifetime during the 70th celebration. From Paint the Night parade, returning January 30th to World of Color Happiness. And with Bluey and Bingo coming soon, happiness is everywhere at the Disneyland Resort.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Smart, less medium. Ever since I was a young boy with fingers, I've dreamed of using those fingers to play the piano. But you know how it is. Life gets in the way. You get a family, you get a job. You never get around to actually getting a piano. But there are lots of other dedicated folks who, unlike me, have a musical instrument in their lives. My question, dear listeners, is how many? Can you tell me what percentage of American adults play a musical instrument? Even if you can't, this is still clueless.

[Moshe Kasher]

Clueless.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Clueless.

[Moshe Kasher]

I'm clueless.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Welcome to Smartless Presents. Clueless, the puzzle podcast powered by an elephant in a giant hamster wheel. If that elephant stops, this whole thing shuts down. I'm Elliot Kaelin. You know me, know how I earn a living. I'll host this podcast for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Actually, it'll probably be very easy because we've got two fantastic guests with us today, co hosts of the Endless Honeymoon podcast. Please welcome two superstars of both comedy and marriage, Natasha Leggero and Moshe Kasher. Thank you so much, Natasha and Moshe, for being back with us today.

[Natasha Leggero]

Elliot, thank you so much. We are such fans of the show, and thank you for keep having us back repeatedly.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Our pleasure.

[Natasha Leggero]

We really. We really love doing the show.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yeah, we were originally slated for. I think it was half an episode.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes.

[Moshe Kasher]

And we were just upgraded to recurring, so this is pretty cool.

[Elliot Kaelin]

It was. You know, we decided once we saw the results, we were like, we have to take advantage of this. This is lightning in a bottle. You know, I'm just glad that you're enjoying it, because for some of our guests, they're like, oh, this is fun. I want to do more. And for some of our guests, it's like they're in a Twilight Zone episode where they have to keep doing a game show podcast and they can't quite get out of it. So I'm glad this is not that one. Before we begin with the opening question, I was, do either of you play an instrument? A musical instrument of Any kind.

[Moshe Kasher]

That's a sore subject in our family. Right, Natasha, you do?

[Natasha Leggero]

Well, I have been learning piano as an adult, and I'm making my daughter learn piano. Neither of us are that interested, but I'm pushing for it. No, I actually really do enjoy it. I just have to make the time for it. And she does it well.

[Moshe Kasher]

And I would say I play a musical instrument, and Natasha would say, she.

[Natasha Leggero]

This is not a musical instrument. Honey, what you're gonna say. Okay, let's crowdsource it.

[Elliot Kaelin]

So what is it? I can't wait to find out what it is. Like a theremin or ocarina.

[Moshe Kasher]

You can't say. Okay, you can say. But then it's like you're gonna say it in a way that isn't cool.

[Natasha Leggero]

He is talking about DJing.

[Moshe Kasher]

See what I mean?

[Natasha Leggero]

Listen, that's not an instrument.

[Moshe Kasher]

Okay, fine, it's not an instrument. But.

[Natasha Leggero]

No, never.

[Moshe Kasher]

But it's like, no, I mean, but.

[Natasha Leggero]

It'S like, hell, no.

[Moshe Kasher]

It's just that it serves the same function in my life as playing a musical instrument.

[Natasha Leggero]

That's like saying scrolling your phone, like, appeals to.

[Moshe Kasher]

This is what I'm talking about. She doesn't know what she's saying. Like, she doesn't know anything about it, but thinks it's unworthy.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Now, here's my. What I think would be the decider on this, whether you're DJing is a musical instrument or not. Are you just playing songs together where you're doing a lot of scratching? Like, do you do a lot?

[Moshe Kasher]

I thank you for that.

[Natasha Leggero]

He does a lot of playing songs together.

[Moshe Kasher]

Thank you for asking, Elliot. And I appreciate the respect that is embedded in the question. I. I do a lot of fun things.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Okay.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin]

All right. Well.

[Natasha Leggero]

But yes. So I. My answer is 15% of Americans, and it's really sad, and it's definitely dwindling.

[Elliot Kaelin]

All right. And so I'm. I'm glad to hear. I've get back to the question. I appreciate that. After I didn't realize what a nerve I was. I was poking in this fan. I apologize.

[Moshe Kasher]

I'm. I am honestly upset right now.

[Natasha Leggero]

No, he's not.

[Moshe Kasher]

I can't keep going.

[Elliot Kaelin]

So you say 15, pushing a couple buttons.

[Moshe Kasher]

Hold on a second. Elliot.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Pushing.

[Moshe Kasher]

You don't know how deejaying works. How can you prognosticate and say what it is? And you could say, we're done.

[Elliot Kaelin]

It. Not. Not to get in the way and not to take sides. You could say playing piano is just pushing a couple of buttons in a way thank you.

[Moshe Kasher]

You know another interesting thing about piano?

[Natasha Leggero]

Brilliant music.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yes. And there's brilliant DJs.

[Natasha Leggero]

There's not no one.

[Elliot Kaelin]

There are.

[Moshe Kasher]

There are legendary.

[Natasha Leggero]

There's a brilliant DJ. They're cool. They get a lot of, you know, they get a lot of say the.

[Moshe Kasher]

Word, say the words so that they can't even air this episode. Natasha.

[Elliot Kaelin]

All right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go back to the. So you said. So, Natasha, you said.

[Natasha Leggero]

I say 15.

[Elliot Kaelin]

15 of Americans play musical instrument. Moshe, what do you think? Do you think that's.

[Moshe Kasher]

And I would say it's 15% if you're doing like old fashioned boomer instruments, like what Natasha thinks. But if you include DJing, it's 85%.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes.

[Natasha Leggero]

If you don't include DJing, it's 15. All right, well, I hope it's more. I hope it's higher.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I've got some bad news for you. According to a survey from the National Endowment for the arts in 2022, which is three years ago, but there are more arts in 2022 than there is now. Our nation is no longer endowing them the same way. About 11% of American adults played a musical instrument. So actually less. But I don't think that's factoring in DJing. So maybe we're. Maybe it's up to over 50% if you, if you factor in DJing.

[Natasha Leggero]

Let's factor in cooking. Let's factor in painting, hiking. We should factor that in too.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Wow. Well, we're going to. We're going to have to leave it there, folks. Moving on. The answer was 11%.

[Disneyland Resort Promo Voice]

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[Elliot Kaelin]

When great design enters your life, the world feels more vibrant. The same happens when you step into a Buick. Feel the confidence of head turning style. Discover luxuries you don't have to wait [e-mail] Buick Exceptional by Design. Listeners. Did you get the answer? If so, give me a D. Give me a K. Give me an 8. Don't bother spelling that. It's not a word. But good job anyway. Sometimes the only way to answer a question like this is by taking a wild guess. That's the way it's going to be in our first first game of this episode. It's called Take a wild Guess.

[Podcast Sound Effects/Interjections]

If you don't know the answer, just do your best.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Get into the ballpark and take a wild guess. Take a Wild guess. Take a Wild Guess is a competitive trivia game, which is good considering the tension in the air right now in the. In this game. It's a competitive trivia game that's less about knowing the right answer and more about sounding convincing and feeling confident when you're making stuff up off the top of your head. Here's how it works. I'm going to ask you two questions one at a time. The answer to each is simply a number out of 100. You're just going to name a number that you think is the right answer to that question. You aren't expected to know the answer. Just try to reason it out, give it your best guess, and then the other person will have to decide whether the actual correct answer is higher or lower. Whoever's closest to the right answer gets a point. But of course, the points are meaningless, so there's no reason to get too upset about it either way. Are you ready to take a wild guess?

[Moshe Kasher]

Are we playing as a team?

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, you're playing competitively against each other on this one. Yeah.

[Moshe Kasher]

Great, good. I'm in that spirit and in that zone.

[Elliot Kaelin]

I guess you're in that mode right now, so, yeah, we'll take advantage of that. Are you ready to take a wild guess? Yes. Take a wild guess, says Natasha, since you are closer to the answer of the opening question. It was 11%, of course. And you said 15 rather than the 85. That Moshe's out there. We'll have you go first, Natasha. According to Rolling Stone's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time, it was Last updated in 2023, so don't think of any albums. No albums in the past two years will be on the list. In the top 100 records, what number does the Beatles, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band come in at? This is the rolling stone of 2023. Their list of the top 100 albums, where does Sgt. Pepper land? What number? Seven. Seven. Okay, Moshe, do you think the answer is higher or lower than that number?

[Moshe Kasher]

Higher.

[Elliot Kaelin]

And by higher, do you mean a bigger number or higher up on the list?

[Moshe Kasher]

Higher on the list.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Higher on the list. All right, then. Actually, the answer. Then actually the point is going to go to Natasha, because it is actually lower than seven on the list. It is actually.

[Natasha Leggero]

What'd it get?

[Elliot Kaelin]

It's actually number 24. Just barely crack in the top 25.

[Natasha Leggero]

But it's all of the albums in the world.

[Moshe Kasher]

But it's sergeant Pepper's. What Is that the highest ranking Beatles record on the list?

[Elliot Kaelin]

I don't know. Hold that thought. Hold that thought. We're gonna have some. Yeah, well, we can get to that. But Natasha gets the point because her answer was closest to the number. Okay, moving on to this.

[Moshe Kasher]

24. I'm sorry, 24. It's only 100 albums. It's almost in the second quarter. I mean, that's crazy, but I mean.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You gotta think about all the other great albums that came out in history. There was whatever Alb. That Chumbawamba song was on.

[Moshe Kasher]

Sure, yeah. Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin]

There's Informer by Snow. You know, all those great songs. Question number two.

[Moshe Kasher]

You know, I was just talking about Snow recently, and I believe he's living a good life as an A and R executive in Canada. He's still in the industry. Oh, that's great. He's not a joke. He's living a good life.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's great. That's wonderful. It's nice when someone becomes not a cautionary tale, you know? Now, question number two. So Moshe will go first with this one. Dealing with the full 500 Greatest Albums list. How many times do you think the Beatles appear on this list? Now, this is the 500 greatest albums of all time, according to Rolling Stone, in 2023. How many times do you think the Beatles appear on this list? How many albums do they have on the list? Let me know and then Natasha, you'll tell me whether you think the answer is higher or lower than that.

[Moshe Kasher]

I'm gonna say four.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Four. Four times, Natasha.

[Natasha Leggero]

Okay. Now, interesting thing about the Beatles. They don't have a lot of albums.

[Moshe Kasher]

Huh? What?

[Natasha Leggero]

I don't think they have that many albums.

[Moshe Kasher]

They got a lot of albums.

[Natasha Leggero]

They were only a band for 10 years.

[Moshe Kasher]

They got a lot of albums.

[Natasha Leggero]

I'm gonna say it's higher.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Higher as in more like a. Like a bigger number. Right.

[Natasha Leggero]

I think there's five or more.

[Moshe Kasher]

That sort of belies your general premise.

[Natasha Leggero]

I know. Well, then I changed my mind once you started giving me more clues.

[Moshe Kasher]

Their great albums are right. The White Album, Sgt. Pepper's Revolver. And then I'm giving him one extra for I'm not Help. Help. I doubt help.

[Natasha Leggero]

Nobody wants help.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Maybe help.

[Moshe Kasher]

Because it was so. Such a big deal.

[Elliot Kaelin]

So, Moshe, you said four. Natasha, you says it's higher than four. Natasha. You're right. You get the point on that one too. They appear on the list nine times.

[Moshe Kasher]

Wow.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Let It Be. Help. A Hard Day's Night.

[Moshe Kasher]

Let It Be.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Meet the Beatles. Which is. I think it's a compilation album. Rubber Soul, The White Album, Sgt. Pepper's Revolver, and Abbey Road, they have some good music. Beatles, they're pretty good.

[Natasha Leggero]

Can you imagine being in a band where everyone's up your ass, everyone thinks you're the best thing that ever.

[Moshe Kasher]

I know.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Happened.

[Moshe Kasher]

It would be hard. I mean, I experienced that as a comedian, but I'm not in a band. It's just me. You know what I mean? So that's. It's easy.

[Elliot Kaelin]

The hard part for you would be sharing that with the other members of the band.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yeah, that's right. That's right. I feel kind of foolish that I said four, because I was. I forgot. Let it be. I forgot Abbey Road. Those are. I mean, there are.

[Elliot Kaelin]

In fairness to you, I'm gonna say that after you found out sergeant Pepper was so relatively low on the list, you were like, these people are nuts. They don't know what they're talking about. They wouldn't recognize. It's all gonna be third eye blind and blink 182 albums on this list. Hold on.

[Moshe Kasher]

The dog is barking. We're worried you're gonna hear it. Okay, we're gonna pull him in. He's upset about the sergeant Peppers thing.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Honestly, I understand. My dad is enormous Beatles family. This is the music he grew up with. He really loves it. And when my sister and I were young, we really enjoy. Look up the number. And my dad goes. I just remember he would say, I don't hate any Beatles songs. I love all of them. But if I was going to hate one of them, it would be that.

[Moshe Kasher]

It would be that.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You did fantastic on that, Natasha. You ran away with that game. 2 out of 2.

[Moshe Kasher]

Dominate.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You dominated it.

[Disneyland Announcer]

You won't believe everything I just saw. I went to Disneyland first. I went to Mickey Mouse Clubhouse live. And I danced with Goofy at night. I saw this parade. Everything was glowing. Sorcerer Mickey was there. And Lightning McQueen. Oh, and guess what? Bluey and Bingo are coming for real life.

[Disneyland Resort Promo Voice]

Make memories that last a lifetime. During the 70th celebration from Paint the Night Parade, returning January 30th to World of Color. Happiness. And with Bluey and Bingo coming soon, happiness is everywhere. At the Disneyland resort.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Listeners, did you do as well as Natasha? If not, don't blame yourself. Maybe it was computer error. Unless you are a computer, in which case this is all on you. You gotta update your software. But don't do that now. You need to stay awake and ready for today's main game. It's called this or that. This or that.

[Podcast Sound Effects/Interjections]

Will you pick that or will you pick this?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Not enough pop songs have the words conundrum and confronted in them. That's what I learned from that sting. In this or that, I'm going to give you quotes that were uttered by two of the most quotable people who ever lived. Yoda from Star wars and Yogi Berra, hall of Fame catcher for the New York Yankees. And I'm kind of stretching the definition of people who lived to include Yoda, who is a fictional alien. I understand that. Anyway, if you think the quote is something Yoda said, you can say Yoda. If you think it's something Yogi Berra said, say Yogi. That's it. That's the entirety of it. Do you think Yoda said it or Yogi Bear said it?

[Natasha Leggero]

Ready?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Okay.

[Natasha Leggero]

Do we just say it?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes. And this is a cooperative.

[Moshe Kasher]

Say it now.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Actually, you're working again. Yeah. Say, say Yogi.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yogi.

[Podcast Sound Effects/Interjections]

This or that or that.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number one. Do or do not. There is no try.

[Natasha Leggero]

Easy, Yogi.

[Moshe Kasher]

No, Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's right, it's Yoda. That's right, it is Yoda. From the impression X back. Question number two. You can observe a lot just by watching.

[Natasha Leggero]

Okay.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yogi.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yogi.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's right. That's Yogi Vera. Number three. If you ask me anything I don't know, I'm not going to answer.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yoda.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, that was a Yogi. Yogi Berra said that. Question number four. Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yes, that was Yoda from Revenge of the Sith. Question number five, You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you are going, because you might not get there.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yogi.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yo, Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

What's your answer? Which one would you like to go with?

[Moshe Kasher]

We're in competition still.

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, it's not cooperating.

[Moshe Kasher]

I don't want that. I don't want that.

[Natasha Leggero]

All right, I agree with Moshe.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yogi is the answer. Yes, that's a Yogi Bear. Number six. You must unlearn what you have learned.

[Natasha Leggero]

That sounds like Yoda.

[Moshe Kasher]

It is Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's right. It's Yoda from the Empire Strikes Back. Question number seven.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yoda.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That reminds me of one of my favorite commercials in the history of anything. When they. For the episode Revenge of the Movie, Revenge of the Sith, when they put out the commercials that highlighted the Yoda lightsaber fight scene, and it said Yoda, man. And I was like, this is. I can't believe this is how they're advertising a Star wars movie.

[Moshe Kasher]

You know, I went back and rewatched the prequels in the last few years, and I have a different feeling about them than when I saw them in the theaters. I think they are actually good in a way. But. But there is a. There is a Full House joke and a. I think a Schwing joke that Jar Jar Binks makes that is so crazy that that made the cut. Oh, here's another fact about Jar Jar.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Okay.

[Moshe Kasher]

I always assumed in my memory that the Gungans talked like that.

[Elliot Kaelin]

No, it's just when I rewatched the.

[Moshe Kasher]

Movie, it's just him. He's just the Rasta. The regular Gungans are like. They just talk normally. It's just Jar Jar.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, he's just. That's one of the reasons he's not hanging around with them a lot is they don't know.

[Moshe Kasher]

I remember. I remember what it is. A Full House joke. He farts and he says, ooh, exqueeze me. How did that pop culture reference from a sitcom making it into the Star wars metaverse?

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number seven. This is. Is this a Yogi or a Yoda? If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be.

[Moshe Kasher]

That's. That's Yogi all the way.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Sure.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yogi.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Ne. Boo. Boo. That's right. Yogi Vera. Question number eight. We are what they grow beyond. That is the burden of all masters.

[Natasha Leggero]

I mean, definitely Yoda.

[Moshe Kasher]

That's Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's Yoda right there.

[Moshe Kasher]

Yoda, man.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number nine. Always in motion is the future.

[Moshe Kasher]

This one's so. Come on, Yoda.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Question number 10. The future ain't what it used to be.

[Moshe Kasher]

You can't do.

[Elliot Kaelin]

This is.

[Moshe Kasher]

See, you're not. This game is flawed. You can't do the syntax that they're famous for. You can't do the opposite, predicate, whatever. And then. And then the folksy, charming English. That's Yogi.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You're saying that. Yes, that is Yogi Bear. You're saying that Yoda never used the word ain't. What if he goes. He goes. Do it or not. There ain't no try. He could have said that. Question number 11. Question number 11. I never said most of the things I said. Yogi.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yogi.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah, it's gotta be Yogi Baron. It is.

[Natasha Leggero]

That's someone who's drunk.

[Elliot Kaelin]

And finally, question number 12. Truly wonderful the mind of a child is.

[Moshe Kasher]

Again, if you just stop. If it had been truly wonderful, the mind of a child, it might have been a mystery, but it's Yoda.

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's right, it's Yoda. That is also in the. That's also the scene where the child has just told them how they are being tricked. And Yoda goes, truly wonderful. The mind of a child is only a child could be devious enough to figure out what the bad guys are doing.

[Natasha Leggero]

Elliot, I'm thinking you could do these all day.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Oh, yeah, probably. I've got a few extras in the memory bank that we haven't gotten to.

[Podcast Sound Effects/Interjections]

That's the conundrum you're confronted with.

[Elliot Kaelin]

So out of 12 questions, you got 11 of them. Very nice work. Of course, even Jedi Masters and Hall of Fame catchers still quiver in fear before one. The Megaclue Muh Mumamamama Mega Clue. That's right, we have a Mega Clue question. Today's Mega Clue goes thusly. Coming in at a height of 0.66 meters, or roughly 2ft, 1 1/2 inches tall, Yoda is about 3 1/2ft shorter than the current incarnation of what Eastern spiritual leader that George Lucas once described Yoda as. A little version of. What spiritual leader did George Lucas once describe Yoda as a little version of?

[Moshe Kasher]

This is the Dalai Lama.

[Elliot Kaelin]

You're right, it is the Dalai Lama, which technically means by the transitive property that the Dalai Lama is just a big version of Yoda. You know, if Yoda's a little version.

[Natasha Leggero]

Of the Dalai Lama, I love that.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Yeah. Listeners, did you get the answer? If so, you have just earned your GED in the state of Kentucky. Congratulations. What an achievement this episode has been, has been a lot of fun. I've enjoyed our talks about DJing, Yoda, Yogi, and all the all things that go along with those. Unfortunately, I have to say, Rumpelstiltskin just arrived to claim the firstborn child I promised him in exchange for turning straw into podcasts. I really need to go sort this out. I'd rather not give him my firstborn child. But before I go, I'd like to thank Natasha Leggero and Moshe Kasher and for giving this episode their all and for giving us another peek inside their podcast, Endless Honeymoon. Tell us one more time about Endless Honeymoon.

[Moshe Kasher]

Well, I can tell you about the Endless Honeymoon's Patreon. One of the things, one of the bonuses that you get when you're a member of our Patreon for our love and relationship advice podcast where people leave their deep dark secrets and Natasha and I hash out their relationship issues is you get a semi quarterly techno afro house slash tech house mix from one of the co hosts of the podcast. If you'd like to see the real artistry and musicianship of the what it means to be a dj, you can join our Patreon or you can go to soundcloud.com moshe casher and find all my mixes.

[Natasha Leggero]

Also, if you're not into that and you don't really think Afro House is good music, especially from the 90s, you can also on the Patreon, we will look at your online dating profile and help you figure that out.

[Moshe Kasher]

Wait, so you're saying you like Afro House?

[Elliot Kaelin]

That's better.

[Moshe Kasher]

From the 2000s and mid 2000s, you have an opinion on which era you're playing?

[Natasha Leggero]

Like 90s?

[Moshe Kasher]

Anyway, listen, DJing is a beautiful thing. So is the Endless Honeymoon podcast. So is Clueless. Thank you for having us on.

[Elliot Kaelin]

Thank you so much for being here. We really appreciate the energy you brought, both positive and negative. I liked both of it. And I'd like to thank you, the listener, for giving as much of you as was necessary to listen to this. At least one of your ears, for short had to have taken that. We'll be back next week with another new episode of Smartless Presents Clueless. I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, reminding you there's only one of you in the whole wide world. Unless your name is Elliot Kaelin, in which case there's two of us. Can't wait to meet you. Goodbye everybody.

[Podcast Sound Effects/Interjections]

Clueless, you have been listening to Smartless Presents Clueless, a Smartless Media production in association with Sirius xm. Your host is Elliot Kaelin, who also writes our scripts. Today's guests were Moshe Kasher and Natasha Leggero. Check out their show the Endless Hunter anywhere you get your podcasts. Your producer, editor and engineer is Devin Tory Bryant, who is me. I also write all the music and sound effects. Today's puzzles were written by Brock Mahan and myself. Talent producer is Anne Harris. Associate Producer Matty McCann Social media producer Tommy Galgano. Executive producers are Elliot Kaelin, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett and Jason Bateman. Executive producers for Smartless Media are Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminski. Remember to follow, subscribe rate and make review the show. It really helps. That's all for now. We will see you again for more.

[Moshe Kasher]

Smart lessons.

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