Re-release: 201 - State Of Confusion (w/ Max Silvestri and Gabe Liedman)

Summary

SmartLess Presents ClueLess

Re-release: 201 - State of Confusion (w/ Max Silvestri and Gabe Liedman)

Release Date: February 23, 2026
Host: Elliott Kalan
Guests: Max Silvestri & Gabe Liedman
Ep Length: ~26 min (content summary below excludes ads/intros/outros)

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Overview

In this repeated season two premiere of ClueLess, host Elliott Kalan is joined by comedians Max Silvestri and Gabe Liedman (co-hosts of "I Need U Guys") for a high-speed ride through word and logic puzzles. This lively, joke-packed episode features two main games: “It’s Elementary” (elements in words & pop culture) and “State of Confusion” (state abbreviations + clever letter play). Listeners are challenged to play along, test their trivia wits, and try to best contestant Sean Hayes (in spirit!).

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Key Discussion Points and Puzzle Segments

Introduction & Opening Banter

• [01:07] - [01:49]
  Elliott shares a comically convoluted email chain story, then asks:
  “Do you even know what archaic two word phrase the email abbreviation CC stands for?”
  • Gabe quickly provides the answer: “Carbon Copy.”

Quote

“What I like is you’re describing it as if you went to, like, a nature preserve for endangered animals. They let you hold a piece of carbon paper.”
— Elliott Kalan [03:08]

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Game 1: It’s Elementary

• [03:29] - [07:50]
  The trio tackles trivia where answers contain names of elements. Highlights:

Q1: Jason’s Crew

• Q: Which group did the Greek hero Jason assemble?
• A: Argonauts (contains “Argon”)
  • Max and Gabe banter about their superior “deep cut” knowledge of elements.

Q2: Newborns

• Q: Word for infants in their first month, with a fluorescent gas?
• A: Neonatal (“Neon”)
  • Humorous aside about fluorescent babies in windows.

Q3: Odd One Out

• Q: Which is not like the others: Selenium, Dilithium, Adamantium, Kryptonite?
• A: Selenium (the only real element, the rest from sci-fi/fantasy)

Notable Exchange

“What was the second one?” – Max
“Dilithium. That’s a Star Trek thing.” – Elliott
“So why do I take it for depression?” – Gabe [07:29]

Recap

• Gabe & Max nearly sweep, missing only the “odd one out” by choosing kryptonite; Elliott clarifies: only selenium is a real element.

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Game 2: State of Confusion

• [09:19] - [21:02]
  Wordplay with state abbreviations: Combine two states’ postal codes, add a letter in the middle to spell a word matching the travel clue.

Sample Mechanic ([09:52])

• Orlando (FL) to Lexington (KY) + letter "A" = FLAKY (like a croissant)

Main Rounds ([11:12] – [21:02])

Elliott gives a travel scenario; guests must deduce the word from state codes and an inserted letter.
Sample Q&As:

• Bar Harbor to Birmingham: ME (Maine) + T + AL (Alabama) = METAL [11:32]
• Seattle to Gulfport: WA + R + MS = WARMS [12:36]
  • Misstep: Initially pick MO (Missouri), corrected to MS (Mississippi)
• New Orleans to Indianapolis: LA + T + IN = LATIN [14:19]
• San Juan to Kennebunkport: PR + I + ME = PRIME [15:13]
• Wilmington to Topeka: DE + S + KS = DESKS [15:56]
• St. Louis to Bend: MO + T + OR = MOTOR [16:34]
• Myrtle Beach to Omaha: SC + E + NE = SCENE [17:39]
• Boston to Eugene: MA + N + OR = MANOR [18:51]
• Little Rock to Philadelphia: AR + E + PA = AREPA [19:35]
• Bloomington to Omaha: IN + A + NE = INANE [20:43]

Running Gag

• Max and Gabe often add gentle snark or play up feigned confusion to comedic effect.

Quote

“This is like doing a crossword. You don’t have to show your worm…”
— Max Silvestri [21:18]

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The Mega Clue

• [21:48] - [24:16]
  Guests must unscramble the extra letters added in each word to find how Elliott traveled around the country.

• Their guesses:

  • “Train seat,” “Trains,” “Transit,” “Steam train”
  • Elliott gently reveals the actual answer.

Correct Answer:

• INTERSTATE – as in, the interstate highway

Memorable Exchange

“I’m gonna gently take this out of your hands… The answer is ‘interstate.’”
— Elliott Kalan [23:54-24:00]

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Notable Quotes & Laugh-Out-Loud Moments

• CC = Carbon Copy origin story:
  “The Children’s Museum in Pittsburgh has a whole exhibit on holding carbon paper.”
  — Max Silvestri [03:19]

• On deep element knowledge:
  “Other people are yelling out hydrogen, and you’re like, seaborgium.”
  — Elliott Kalan [04:14]

• Meta-complaints about “half credit” on state abbreviations:
  “Frankly, it’s none of your business how we get the answer… Who cares that we got the state wrong?”
  — Max Silvestri [21:18]

• Pun on “Boron/Beatles” song:
  “The only element that really matters is the fifth element. Love. Wait, I misread that. The fifth element is boron. I’m sorry. As in the Beatles song, all you need is boron.”
  — Elliott Kalan [09:19]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Description | |-----------|------------------------------|------------------------------------------------| | 01:07 | Cold open: “CC” trivia | Email abbreviation puzzle | | 03:29 | It’s Elementary game | Element wordplay & pop culture refs | | 09:19 | Transition & “State of Confusion” explanation | State abbreviation plus letter game | | 11:32-21:02| State of Confusion, full run | Each travel riddle with answers | | 21:57 | Mega Clue intro | Unscramble all inserted letters | | 24:00 | Mega Clue answer reveal | “Interstate” solution | | 24:38 | Wrap-up / final banter | Results, laughs, thanks |

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Tone and Style

The episode’s spirit is fast-paced, playful, and brimming with smart, silly banter—pun-filled, nerdy, and self-aware, with quick wit from all participants. Elliott’s hosting blends dry humor with actual trivia expertise, while Max and Gabe riff, jab, and push the premise into absurd, comedic territory.

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Conclusion

Max and Gabe score “nine and two thirds out of 10,” missing only half a point for a state slip-up and the final mega clue anagram. The episode’s blend of wordplay, trivia, and comedy keeps the energy high and delightfully offbeat—perfect for fans of puzzles and improv humor. Listeners are encouraged to play along and, of course, imagine host Elliott with a full head of hair.

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For trivia and comedy fans alike, this ClueLess episode is the perfect 12-minute brain teaser—with a side of comic relief and a surprising amount of periodic table knowledge.

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Transcript

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[The Bot]

Greetings clueless listeners. It is I, the Bot. You may know me from such Clueless games as botbops. You remember, I am the Bot and these are my bops. That's me. Anyway, Elliot is busy this week crafting a life sized buttersculpture of President Rutherford B. Hayes. So in the meantime, please enjoy a repeat performance of our season two premiere episode featuring the hilarious Max Silvestri and Gabe Liedman from the podcast I Need U Guys, I hope you know your periodic table of the elements and also state abbreviations. We'll be back with a new episode next week. Bye, Smart.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Let us. I got an email from my friend Cici. She was mad that I hadn't cc'd her on an email to our friend BB, even though I BCC'd bebe on an email to Dee Dee. So I was cc' ing Cici, BB and Dee Dee on an email to Phoebe Beefy when I asked myself, do you even know what archaic two word phrase the email abbreviation CC stands for? If you want the answer, I'll CC you on today's episode of Clueless. Clueless. Clueless.

[The Bot]

I'm Clueless.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Welcome to Smartless Presents Glueless, the puzzle podcast that's fortified with riboflavin. Whatever that is, we don't know. We just put it in there. I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, and I'm all organic. Well, the parts of me that our organs are. On today's episode of Clueless, we're joined by two very special guests. They are writers and comedians. They are the co hosts of the new Smartless podcast. I need you guys. Please welcome Gabe Liedman and Max Silvestri. Thank you so much for joining us today, guys.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Oh my God, what a thrill to be here.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Absolutely. To start this with a question felt great.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Well, before we go on, I have to ask you, do you know the answer to our opening question? What archaic two word phrase does the email abbreviation CC stand for?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Well, you, Honor, I think I do.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah, I believe we both do. But you should answer, Gabe.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I Think it's carbon copy.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Yeah, you're exactly right. It's carbon copy. For the children and forgetful people in the audience listening. In the olden days before email, people would make copies of letters using the awesome power of. Of carbon. Gabe, have you ever used carbon paper to make a carbon copy?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I have held the results of it. I've never been the one typing onto it, but I have, like, I've held that kind of carbon paper receipt, and. Yeah.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Oh, when you go to a place where there's a yellow one, a pink one, and then a blue one. Yeah, I love that.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

What I like is you're describing it as if you went to, like, a nature preserve for endangered animals. They let you hold a piece of carbon paper. Very exciting.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I stood in a long line.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

The Children's Museum in Pittsburgh has a whole exhibit on holding carbon paper.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

But to think there's so few of these left in the wild. This is.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

No one has seen the pink kind in years.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

No, no. Carbon is, of course, an element, one of the basic building blocks of reality. And that question is one of the basic building blocks of today's first game. It's called It's Elementary. It's elementary. Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I love that.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

That's right. The elements rock. I'm going to ask you to answer three more questions. Every answer will contain the name of an element found on the periodic table of elements. How familiar are you, Max? Engage with the periodic table of elements.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I'm probably the most familiar with it of anyone.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah, definitely. When the numbers get high, like the deep stuff, that's really what I know. That's the stuff that I'm always using in my work.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Other people are yelling out hydrogen, and you're like, seaborgium that I like.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Meet. Meet me on row five.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

And then we'll talk.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You're all about lanthanides.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I have it tattooed on my back, but I never get to look at it because of where it is. So unfortunately, it's not that useful.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

It's very difficult. Okay, this should go great. Clearly, from the jokes you're telling, I know that you are two physical scientists of the top order. So are you ready to start this game?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yes, I am.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Okay, you got it. Here's the first of these questions, almost like the original. A team. What ragtag group did the ancient Greek hero Jason assemble to help him with his quest to steal the Golden Fleece?

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Oh, okay, that's a layup.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's a layup. That would be the Argonauts, as in Argon Right, Max?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Yep.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I agree with you. I'm not going to fight that.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Well, what if you did? That would be a huge power.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

No, it's Jason and the heliotropes or whatever.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

But that is correct. It is. The argonauts. Like argon, one of those noble gases.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I love those.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

The next question. This word to describe newborn infants, especially in the first month, contains a gas with fluorescent. Uses word to describe newborn infants.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Oh, especially. I think I know this.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Neonatal.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Exactly right. And what element is in there?

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Neon.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

There you go. Another one of those gases.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I wasn't gonna get there.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

You know what I really needed? Fluorescent. And I've had a baby in the first month and was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

But your baby was very fluorescent, so that's what makes you.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

He was always hanging in the window blinking.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Last question in it's elementary. It's a slightly different kind of question about elements. This is not a word game question. I want you to tell me which of the following substances is not like the others. Selenium, dilithium, adamantium and kryptonite. Which of those is not like the others? Selenium, dilithium, adamantium and kryptonite.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I mean, my. My feeling is, even though adamantium, I first learned from the comic books on Captain America's shield and then Wolverine's blades, I think it is kind of real.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yeah, I think so.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

It's like something. But kryptonite is fake, right?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay, well, kryptonite, whether it's real or not, I don't think it's an element.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Right.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

You know what I mean?

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Certainly not from this planet.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

No.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah. It's the remainders of the exploding.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

It's derivative of an element. I think it's a product. And so I think on that basis,

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I'm going to agree that I don't think kryptonite is on the periodic table of elements.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

There we go.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Kryptonite is your answer. And. Oh, you were doing so well. I'm so sorry, that is not the right answer to this question.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

What in the world is another one of them a fake thing?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Almost all of them are fake things. Right.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

So one is a real thing.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

The one that is the odd one out is selenium because it is a real element. On the piano table.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

What was the second one?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Dilithium. That's a Star Trek thing. Die.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Lithium.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

That's what they're supposed to do.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

So why do I take it for Depression.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

If it's fake, well, that's something you have to talk to your therapist about. If it's working, it's real. Don't ask questions about it. Adamantium. You were right. That is a Marvel Comics thing. Kryptonite. You were right. That is a DC Comics thing. But they're all fake. Except selenium, which is a real element. It's under the symbol se. Check it out on your back, Max. It's right there.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

You got a mole on your selenium.

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[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Listeners at home, did you do as well as Gabe and Max? Who got three questions out of four? If not, that's okay. The only element that really matters is the fifth element. Love. Wait, I misread that. The fifth element is boron. I'm sorry? As in the Beatles song, all you need is boron. Which is ironic since you won't need boron for today's main game. It's State of Confusion. So how well do you know your states? Not just the beast, but how they abbreviate. Can you see this is the state of.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

You

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Regular listeners of Clueless know I'm what you'd call a Ramblin Man. I've traveled all across this great nation of ours, from the tippy top to the bitty bottom. In this game, I'm gonna tell you two states I traveled to and I'm gonna describe my trip. Your job is to take the postal abbreviations of those states and add one letter in the middle between them to create a word that matches the description of my trip. Sound complicated? It does sound complicated, yes. But it's actually not complicated. So, for example, if I said my trip from Orlando to Lexington was like a buttery croissant, you would take the abbreviation for the state Orlando is in, which is fl, and the abbreviation of the state Lexington is in, which is ky, and you'd add a letter in the middle. What letter do you think you would add to that?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I would add a U to make it flukey.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yep.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Because that's how I like my croissants.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yep. Like the fish.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Well, flukey, we were going for A for flaky, but flukey could also work. That's fine. That's fine.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Let's see.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Finding Nemo also had to get home to Kentucky.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yeah, that's right.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Is that where he was ending up was Kentucky the whole time?

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I believe so, yes.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Oh, wow.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yep. Right at the end of the ocean.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

At the end of the game, you will unscramble all the letters you added to get the answer to this week's mega clue. Does any of this make sense to you?

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

It does. I'm with you 100%.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Wonderful. Great state of confusion. Let's begin with our first question. Question. My trip from Bar harbor to Birmingham, I spent listening to heavy rock music. My trip from Bar harbor to Birmingham, I spent listening to heavy rock music. And remember, you can discuss this between yourselves.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

So I think we've got Bar Harbor, Maine.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

To start. Me. And then Birmingham, Alabama. Al. So I'm going to guess the letters T. Okay. And then metal music.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Metal music? Yeah. Like heavy metal or death metal or. But yeah, that's where we should have stopped. Metal.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Metal. That was great. I was ready for you to tell me three or four more different types of metal music. It would have been one.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Folk metal.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Folk metal.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Baby metal.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Coral metal.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

There is a band called Baby Nature sound metal.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

When it rains on your zinc roof.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

I've been listening to metal songs of the whales to get to sleep at night.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Oh, I love that.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

It's just wonderful how they.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

They feel so much.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

They, you know, they're the only mammals that thrash.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Question number two. On my trip from Seattle to Gulfport, the temperature kept going higher. On my trip from Seattle to Gulfport, the temperature kept going higher. Gulfport.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay, so we're starting in Washington state.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yep.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Which I would give a wa.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I would as well.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

And then we're gonna have to Locate Golf Port Gulfport, which sounds like it's near a gulf. Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Yes.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

So that would give me Texas. It would give me Louisiana.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Maybe Florida.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Florida, that's got a big old Gulf. How do you spell waffle?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Yeah. Okay.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

No, wait, hold on. Okay. And it gets hotter when you go from it's warming.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I mean, I feel like we're somewhere in the area. Washington helps warm Wa. So if we can get to ms, maybe Gulfport is in like Missouri warms. And we had an orms.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

We had an R. Yeah. I love that.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You are, you are so close. I'm going to give you half credit. You're right. The answer is worms. But that Ms. At the end is for Mississippi.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That sounds right.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Did I not say that?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You said Missouri.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I think if you were, if you were doing Missouri, it might be warm.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah, you're right.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You're right.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Will also now also, I literally just

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

watched last night Mississippi Burning and I'm completely flaked on all knowledge of the state and said Missouri, which I know is landlocked.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

It's a big scene in Mississippi Burning where he goes, we got a problem here in Mississippi. A lot of people think the abbreviation's MO but it's Ms. Here. Missouri is mo. Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

And that was right in the trailer. Everyone knows that line.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

That was the Oscar winning speech. That was what won that movie the Oscar. Let's go to question number three. From New Orleans to Indianapolis, I studied an ancient language. From New Orleans to Indianapolis, I studied an ancient language.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

You know, I took four years of this in high school.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Gabe, did you. They made us start in sixth grade.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Oh, my God.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I did a lot of this one.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

But Louisiana we're starting with.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's right.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

And then Indiana is our ending and we're adding, of course, Gabe, our favorite

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

letter, which is T, to spell Latin, the language that we speak every morning, first thing we say, cogito ergo sum.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

I mean, you're thinking and you're amming. You're doing great right now. You say to yourself, I'm never going to use this when you're in school. But you just use it right now. All those years of learning.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I said a whole sentence.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Let it to this moment. Yeah. Yep. Question number four. My trip from San Juan to Kennebunkport was of the highest quality. My trip from San Juan to Kennebunkport was of the highest quality. Wow.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

So Kennebunkport, Maine, San Juan, Puerto Rico.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yep.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I send a lot of mail to Puerto Rico and I know it's going to be pr. And then Maine is going to be me.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Yep.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

And we're going to add.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

And I know we're getting warm.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

O.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

We're getting warm O. Which is.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

We're adding I. The letters I. It's prime.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's right.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Exactly right. It is prime. And it was a great trip. From San Juan to Kennebunkport.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Did you walk?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Moving on to question five. Great work on that one. Question five. On my trip from Wilmington to Topeka, I sat at many work tables. On my trip from Wilmington to Topeka, I sat at many work tables.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Wilmington is a beautiful city in Delaware.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yep.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Right by my hometown of Philadelphia.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

And we're ending with KS for Kansas.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's right. Okay. And when you. When I do my work, I like to sit at a desk. And so I'm going to add an S right in there.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You got it. You had an S for desks. I sat at so many desks between Wilmington and Topeka, Sometimes in the middle of the night, I just break into a school, try out all the desks. They never knew I was there. Question 6. From St. Louis to Bend, we moved really quickly. From St. Louis to Bend, we moved really quickly. We.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay, so St. Louis, this is Missouri.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Missouri.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Not St. Louis, Mississippi. Yes.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay, so we're going mo.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Which we knew this whole time. We were just being fun before.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

And. And we're ending up in Bend, Oregon. That's a lovely town.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I've never been.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Oh, you should go.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I'd love to.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yeah. Bend, Oregon is great. Okay.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

I had trouble. I'm a straight line guy, so, you know, it was. It was hard for me in Bend. It was just not my place.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Right. Wait, wait. And then what was the clue? What is the letter clue?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Really quickly.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay, So I mean, this is.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Perhaps we add a T and we were motoring.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Motoring.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

We were motoring to.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Exactly. Wormo. We motored. Good job. Okay. Okay. If I said from St. Louis to Bend I was in a Shakespeare play, you'd add no letters and it would be more for Othello.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's right. Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

But that's not what I said. You added T and it's motor.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

But that's great bonus content for between seasons.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Question number seven. My trip from Myrtle beach to Omaha was like something out of a movie.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay. Myrtle Beach. Myrtle Beach.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Gabe and I still spend spring break there every.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Well, we own a T shirt shop.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

A lot of the kids like to work at.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yep.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

One of the many businesses.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

So Myrtle beach is in South Carolina, Right?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Myrtle beach feels like it's somewhere around there.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah, right. Or is it in it?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I can't quite remember how I get there every summer to work there with

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

you, but I handle the travel stuff, so.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Yes.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

You know, no one. You know, I almost was thinking Marilyn, but who would start a word with MD you know what I mean? So I said no, but then I set it up.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

That's good thinking.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

What the hell?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Where would.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay, wait. What was the. What was the.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

What was the. My trip from Myrtle beach to Omaha was like something out of a movie.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Oh, okay. So Omaha is something out of a movie.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I see. Yes.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Omaha, Nebraska, and E. It was almost

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

like a scene from a film.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You got it. South Carolina and Nebraska. Throw an E in the middle and you get scene.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

It was almost like a scone from a movie.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Question number eight. You guys are doing fantastic. I went from Boston to Eugene to see a large country home. I went from Boston to Eugene to see a large country home.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I grew up in Massachusetts, so I feel comfortable saying.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

That Boston is ma.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Right. And now we're back in Oregon.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You couldn't say. No.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

You couldn't say goodbye in a large house with.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Or I think to the. To the manor born.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's right. A manor.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

A man.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's right.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

That's right.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's what it is.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You would add the letter N, but for Maine and Oregon to make manor. Great. You are doing fantastic in this game.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Yep. Great.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

There's two questions left. Question 9. From Little Rock to Philadelphia, I snacked on a delicious stuffed South American flatbread. From Little Rock to Philadelphia, I snacked on a delicious stuffed South American flatbread. You get the best South American flatbreads in Little Rock and Philadelphia.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Right?

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Right. I would say that's probably true now. Okay. Little Rock, Arkansas.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah, I've been to Little Rock, Been to the presidential library. You in Little Rock. It was fantastic. Obviously, it wrestles with parts of the legacy in an interesting way. You know which parts?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Wrestled with parts of his legacy, too,

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

but AR is what we're starting with.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

PA for Pennsylvania. And that sounds like an AREPA to me.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Very good.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Maybe an E in there.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Very good. Add an E in the middle to make arepa. Finally, question 10 for you have almost. Almost totally dominated this game. Almost. Let's see if you can do it. Question 10. My trip from Bloomington back to Omaha was totally pointless.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

My trip from Bloomington. Bloomington back to Omaha we've already talked about was totally pointless.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

That's right. Okay, so Bloomington.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Bloomington is Indiana.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Indiana, yeah. So in blank ne. Totally pointless.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Inane.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Inane. We're adding the letter A.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You're right. You're adding the letter A for inane. Fantastic. You have got every single question right except for one that you got half credit on. So that's fantastic, you guys. Wow. I'm so impressed at your knowledge of state abbreviations and words.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I really resent getting half credit for that because, frankly, it's none of your business how we get the answer of the clue. You're asking us. Who cares that we got the state wrong? Ultimately, the word is worms. The letter was R. This is like doing a crossword. You don't have to show your worm

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Warmo working the refs.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Okay.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Absolutely none of your business.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

This is something we're gonna have to talk about after the game. Okay, sir, but you know what?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

See you in court.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

I will. Just. Just to avoid that, I'll settle. I'll give you two thirds of a point.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Love that for that one.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Thank you. There you go. State of confusion. There's still one part left of the game, though. That's the mega clue.

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Mega clue question.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

That's right. There's always a mega clue at the end. Can you unscramble the letters that you added to the game to make a word that describes how I got from place to place around the country? Let me remind you what those letters are. Unless your memories are so amazing that you remember all of those letters.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Well, we're starting with eight T's. Yeah, I know that.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Why don't I give you the letters? Why don't I give you the letters? Yep. Yep. T. Yep. R, T, I, S. There's no way

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

there'd be another T. Oh, you got it.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

E, N, E and A. So there were three T's, two E's, and then an A, an N, an S, an I, and an R. And

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

what's the question again?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

How we're getting around.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

How did I get from place to place around the country in my perambulations through this nation of ours?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Mmm.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I'm horrible at anagrams.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I should have written this down, but I didn't, and now we're going on the journey. You did?

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Yeah, I wrote it down. Before he read all the letters, I put it all down. I did the wrong. That was good thinking, but it's not helping me now.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

You also wrote it down on a very small piece of paper. There's three T's, two Es and then an R, an I, an S, A, an N, and an A. I mean,

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

in a Train seat or some crap like that.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I mean, train seat. Hold on.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

It almost works. It doesn't quite work, but it almost works.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

We can get trains and then what's

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

left after you do trains?

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

I, T, E, E. Transit. We could do transit, right?

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay, let's do transit.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Transit.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

E. Transit E. I think that's probably it.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Transit E to Warmo Gulfbird.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Steam train.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

No, steam train. Steam train's a thing.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna. It is a thing. The letters don't quite match it. I'm gonna gently take this out of your hands.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Okay, great, great.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Give you the answer. The answer is interstate. That is the word we were looking for. The interstate. I didn't take the outer state takes too long. The outer state just takes too long. You gotta take the interstate.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

So where the hell was I getting that N from?

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

I know there was an N. Oh, no.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

Interstate.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

Of course.

[Gabe Liedman (Guest)]

I'm gonna go back to bed.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Listeners at home, did you get the answer? If so, great job. You've shown you've got what it takes to answer that question. Gabe. Max, you did a fantastic job. You didn't get the mega clue, but that's okay. You got nine and two thirds points out of a 10 possible points. You did great on its elementary.

[Max Silvestri (Guest)]

This is.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

I'm very impressed with your work here on Clueless and I think you should take that pride with you through the day and just let it motivate you in whatever you're doing next. Of course, now it's time for everyone's favorite part of the show. If you really like the credits, the end of the show. But before we go, I'd like to thank Gabe Liedman. Max Silvestri, thank you for being our guest today. Never losing your cool, even though I was glaring at you the entire time. The audience at home could not see it, but I was giving them a death stare the entire time. And when I thank you, the audience at home, for assuming when you listen that I have a full head of hair. Thank you. I don't, but please keep imagining me that way. I really appreciate it. We'll be back next week with more Smartless presents Clueless. Until then, I've been your host, Elliot Kaelin, reminding you to keep reaching for the stars, but not without gloves on. Stars are hot.

[Producer/Outro Announcer]

Clueless, you have been listening to Smartless presents Clueless, a Smartless Media production in association with SiriusXM. Your host is Elliot Kaelin, who also writes our scripts. Today's contestants were Gabe Liebman and Max Silvestri.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

Check out.

[Producer/Outro Announcer]

I need you'd guys anywhere you get your podcasts. Your producer, editor and engineer is Devin Tory Bryant, who is me. I also write all the music and sound effects. Today's puzzles were written by Brock Mahan and Jason Reich. Talent producer is Anne Harris, Associate Producer Matty McCann Social media producer Tommy Galgano. Executive producers are Elliot Kaelin, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett and Jason Bateman. Executive producers for Smartless Media are Richard Corson and Bernie Kaminski. Remember to follow subscribe, rate and review the show. It really helps.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

That's all for now.

[Producer/Outro Announcer]

We will see you again for more.

[Elliot Kaelin (Host)]

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